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	Good afternoon, folks.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Monday, the 22nd of July, 2024.
	I'm joined by Bo and Dan and today we're going to be talking about Biden going, Kamala Harris coming, and JD Vance and his book Hillbilly Elegy, which Dan has read.
	Right, so big news.
	We need to talk about Sleepy Joe again, but for among the last time, hopefully.
	I'm sure there'll be more, but the numbers of times we're going to have to talk about Mr Biden are... Are definitely drawing to a close.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, he decided, apparently of his own volition, that he's not going to seek re-election.
	He's not going to go before the American people again.
	He probably should have put a trigger warning on that, just in case Joe's watching and he doesn't know yet.
	Right, yeah.
	Doubtless he is.
	Breaking news, Mr Biden.
	So he, and apparently it's come as a shock to lots of people, including sort of people very close to him, his own staffers and things, which is extremely suspicious to me.
	I was checking the White House press releases just before we came on air.
	Still no mention, no mention on the Putin's account, no mention on Joe Biden's floaters account.
	Someone on Twitter said they saw a Biden-Harris ad on their TV like an hour before the news broke.
	Yeah.
	And as you say, all of their staffers were like, well, we found out via the tweet.
	So my knowledge of sort of the history of presidents, I'm fascinated by this.
	I'm particularly interested in Eisenhower, Nixon, JFK, that sort of era.
	I've read quite a lot of books about those.
	Anyway, you would tell your senior staffers It's the sort of thing that comes up in a meeting, isn't it?
	Yeah, right.
	You just would.
	So can I point out a few things about this that I find really strange?
	It's not on headed paper.
	So this isn't from the office of the President.
	Joe Biden is not in control of his own social media accounts.
	That's the Diversity Higher Press Secretary who does that.
	Do we know it's her?
	Yeah.
	She mistakenly posted something.
	It was supposed to come through her Twitter account.
	Oh, I always wondered.
	Because he tweeted 36 times during that debate with Trump.
	Yeah, it's obviously not him.
	And she's a dummy.
	She's pretty badly a dummy.
	She tries to use arguments and rationales that don't work on an eight-year-old.
	Yeah, yeah.
	She's desperate sometimes.
	But I mean, look what she has to defend, right?
	But this I find just very, very peculiar.
	And then people pointed out that's a weird signature.
	Doesn't match his other signatures.
	In fact, can we get that up?
	Yeah, look at that.
	He doesn't underline his signature.
	So, you know, on previous executive orders... The R is much, much smaller.
	The B doesn't look the same.
	The S is always different at the end.
	Yeah, completely different.
	So it's not his signature?
	The first thing that sprung to my mind when I saw this was Guy Fawkes' signature.
	And they tortured him so it was a barely legible scribble.
	I'm not saying he's being held hostage in a West Wing basement or anything.
	But we're not saying that either.
	Certainly a non-zero chance.
	But in this letter, there's nothing to it.
	The only thing of any real relevance that tells us anything is the line that says that he's going to stand down to focus solely on fulfilling his duties as president in the remainder of his term, which is nonsense.
	It says, I will speak to the nation later this week in more detail about my decision.
	So it's sort of... That's not standing down then, is it?
	I'm not going to seek re-election, I'm going to stand down.
	But I'm going to remain as president, even though obviously I'm not seeking re-election because of the decline of my cognitive faculties.
	But I am going to be president for the next five months.
	So just let's hope that Putin or Xi Jinping doesn't do anything particularly stressful in that time.
	I mean, if you were China, you would invade Taiwan today.
	Yeah, well, it's the classic thing when a politician just wants to get out of office and get out of the public eye as quickly as humanly possible for whatever reason, usually because there's a scandal pending, usually because the papers have come to say, we're going to print this.
	The ball's now in your court, what are you going to do?
	And they usually say, the old cliche, isn't it?
	I've got to spend more time with my family.
	I really want to spend more time with my family.
	That's the line, isn't it?
	To the point of being a joke.
	And so that's a take on that, isn't it?
	I want to focus more on The job I'm doing now, even though, yeah, just hours before it seems, he was still up for re-election.
	Right, literally in the past couple of days.
	Every Democrat notable has come out and just said, no, Biden is definitely going to be the candidate.
	Biden's staying.
	Everyone's going to get behind.
	And so all of the sort of activist class on social media were like, yep, we love Biden.
	Biden's great.
	Well, all his close proxies were even hours before this saying that he's getting impatient with people trying to get him to put out.
	Yeah.
	So I don't think he knew about this.
	No.
	You really think?
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	I don't think so, but I would not be surprised.
	Well, that's the thing.
	A lot of people saying, well, look, this kind of looks like a coup.
	This happened from the people around Biden who are obviously propping up his presidency.
	And, well, it does kind of look that way.
	Why hasn't Biden come out and made an announcement?
	Just a video address.
	Why is this, again, on unheaded paper without his proper signature on it?
	Who wrote this?
	Who posted this on his account that he obviously doesn't run?
	So the leaked stuff coming out from Nancy Pelosi's, people who know Nancy Pelosi, is that she said to him, look, we can either do this the easy way or the hard way.
	And then she came back to him four weeks later, which was like a couple of days ago and said, look, we've been doing the easy way for four weeks.
	Now we're going to do it the hard way.
	And all you need to do is is like ring up Jill and say, oh, how is he?
	Oh, he's passed out with flu.
	And, you know, we can't wake him.
	Oh, OK, fair enough.
	And then you pick up another phone and you say, do it.
	And this gets dropped.
	from whatever the press secretary and then you notice that the Clintons immediately came out and all their surrogates in the media they all just started running with it as if this is perfectly normal yeah and they just talked about the prospects of President Harris yeah so I mean he's apparently in Covid isolation at the moment four days in and he's decided you know I've had enough And then if you do this, I was saying this to Dan off camera earlier, that this isn't the sort of thing you just drop a letter about.
	You have to address the nation, you would have thought.
	Yeah.
	And if you do do it by letter, and then you say, I'm going to talk to the nation later.
	Later this week.
	Just later, that's what it says, later this week.
	You would do it sooner rather than later.
	You would expect he would do it this morning, American time, at least this afternoon, American time.
	Doesn't look like he's going to do it.
	Who knows when we'll actually see.
	We do kind of want proof of life.
	And the thing is, this was dropped on a Sunday afternoon, wasn't it?
	That's weird.
	It is weird, yeah.
	It's just a weird time.
	Yeah.
	It's like, yeah, I was just, you know, just had my Sunday roast.
	I was pondering it and I thought I'd just give it up.
	I believe it was LBJ who was one of the last ones to not run for a second term and he gave a 40 minute address.
	Yeah, famous.
	On camera.
	Fully explaining himself.
	And we get this.
	So you mentioned that there was lots of people, right up to the last minute almost, still coming out for him, backing him.
	But there has been a power struggle.
	So for example, some of the big beasts in the party, someone like Adam Skiff, or Schiff, I can't remember how you pronounce it, went on record and said, I don't think it's a good idea if Joe goes for it.
	Actually, can we play this?
	It's a few minutes and it's about four days old.
	President Joe Biden all smiles on the campaign trail just hours before this.
	He just tested positive for COVID.
	Biden's symptoms are mild, says the White House.
	But it's terrible timing to be sidelined as even more Democrats come out against his re-election bid.
	The latest prominent House Democrat, Adam Schiff, the highest profile lawmaker, to demand Biden step aside.
	Biden has been one of the most consequential presidents in our nation's history, Schiff told the LA Times.
	But I have serious concerns about whether the president can defeat Donald Trump.
	Another high-profile Democrat, Senator Cory Booker, didn't go that far, but said... I trust this man.
	He will make the right decision.
	Since his disastrous debate performance nearly three weeks ago, more than 20 Democratic lawmakers have said publicly Biden should not run.
	But the president continues to fight back, reportedly lashing out, saying, I don't want to hear that crap, to lawmakers expressing concerns voters won't back him.
	And in his latest interview, Biden says there's only one reason he'd stand down.
	If there was some medical condition that emerged.
	If somebody, if the doctor's taking me and said you've got this problem, that problem.
	But many voters say they want him off the ticket now.
	One recent poll suggesting 70% of Americans don't have confidence in Biden's mental capacity, and that two-thirds of Democrats want a new candidate.
	I'm deeply concerned that the president's circle, the people who, quite frankly, have kept him in a bubble... Okay, we don't need to really go anywhere, that's it.
	I mean, that's brutal.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's it, it's over.
	So there's a thing when a leader has to sort of go to war with their own party.
	You know, it happens all the time.
	But it's so transparently absurd.
	He's the most popular president of all time.
	I thought so, yeah.
	He won 81 million votes.
	More than any other president ever, right?
	And they're trying to force him out.
	It simply makes no sense on its own terms.
	What's interesting is Obama only topped out 69 million.
	He really smashed Obama's record.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's all clear to everyone that he's a stooge, a front man, a spokesman, a puppet, etc.
	But for who then?
	So who actually makes the decision?
	Who pulls the trigger on these things?
	That's a great question.
	Well, that's the same question as who's really running the country.
	Now, I obviously have no real insights into it, but I would suspect it's people like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, the Obamas, Barry and Mike, as well as people like some of the other big base people like that, Adam Skiff, Bloke, Cory Booker, people like that.
	The press secretary, you know, they're all going to form a kind of cabal around him.
	Exactly going to use that word.
	And they will orchestrate what the messaging is going to be, what Biden's going to say from the teleprompter, as Elon pointed out, whoever controls the teleprompter controls the United States.
	And it's going to be that sort of I don't know how to describe it.
	There's kind of a pillar inside of the Democrat Party that everything else is hinging off.
	And it's obviously sort of like the Clintons, the Obamas, and all of those sorts of people who've got just an iron grip over the party.
	It's like three or four WhatsApp groups are running in the country.
	Yeah, and ironically.
	And so, like, the Atlantic can just be like, well, look, stay alive.
	We just need your corporeal presence.
	And this was in 2020, where it was just like, look, just don't die.
	That was 2020, wasn't it?
	Yeah, that was four years ago.
	So I've got to say, I'm feeling so bad for the poor sod who spent the last few months printing Baiduk ballads.
	It's like the president or the chairman of the board of a big corporation.
	It could be a really old dude who doesn't really know what's going on and just plays a bit of golf from time to time, but he's a figurehead.
	You know, so if real politics aren't involved, that's not a problem.
	It just keeps the shareholders happy.
	But when it's the President of the United States who's supposed to be in charge of policy, and he's got his finger on the button, it's just not good enough, right?
	Well, he's meant to be the Chief Executive.
	He's meant to be the guy who's calling the shots, and people have voted for him because they want his agenda to be executed.
	And the Commander-in-Chief.
	Wasn't Obama the first president for a very long time to maintain a residence in Washington D.C.?
	They live in the West Wing, don't they?
	Obama stayed on after Joe came.
	Obama stayed in Washington D.C.
	- After Joe King.
	- Oh, after?
	- Right, right, okay. - Obama stayed in Washington, CC.
	He's got a residency there.
	- Right.
	- And you've seen events- - Somewhere in Georgetown.
	- Yeah, and you've seen events where Obama and Biden have been present, and people just flock straight to Obama, and everybody ignores Joe's who's just wandering around, Also remember Obama came and visited Sunak mysteriously after he became Prime Minister and things like that.
	Taking on foreign diplomatic responsibilities.
	If I had to really guess, I would say it was a combination of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.
	That are really the party.
	What they decide amongst themselves, that little triumvirate.
	Imagine Hillary Clinton's in that.
	Yeah, right.
	You wouldn't risk not including her, would you?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, I mean, looking back at Biden, I've got a link there where it's the Secretary of Defence, the one furthest on the right there, if you can see it.
	The Secretary of Defence guy, which is Lloyd Austin.
	Yeah.
	Said President Biden is an extraordinary guardian of America's national security.
	Based on what track record?
	As Commander-in-Chief, POTUS has shown his profound and personal commitment to the Department of Defense and the American military, apart from that Afghan debacle.
	Apart from the diversification of the military and the de-ification of it.
	And I'm deeply grateful for his leadership and his statesmanship, apart from when he defecates himself in the Vatican or whatever.
	He has a secure place in American history as one of our great foreign policy presidents.
	Amazing statement.
	Yeah, amazing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That is, I mean... Double thing, isn't it?
	Well, it's just crazy.
	I mean, two new wars, the disastrous evacuation of Afghanistan, the purging of the military because of Covid and because of DEI nonsense.
	The open border.
	The open border, but the general Weakening of America's position on the international stage is the legacy of Joe Biden.
	I do love the way that Democrats can do this.
	There's a shoal of fish that just change direction, all of them at once.
	So he was perfect.
	He was sharp as a tact for years.
	And then four weeks ago, two weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Four.
	Yeah.
	Into whatever it was for two weeks.
	I can't remember how many weeks ago.
	It was four weeks ago from the debate.
	OK, so four weeks ago, suddenly he became somebody who had to step down.
	You know, his time was done, you know, he's not fit to be president, right?
	And then, yesterday night, and all of a sudden, the Scolderfish changed direction again, and now he's a hero, he's the greatest president ever.
	It's just that they are so... I mean, that's the nature of politics in all sorts of ways, party politics anyway.
	But the leftists are particularly good at it.
	Actual communists were brilliant at it.
	There's a great example of when Stalin turned against Tito.
	In Yugoslavia.
	And one day he's just a hero of the Soviet Republic.
	And the next day, literally the next day, because Stalin's changed his mind, he's evil and must be removed and must be purged from history and all that sort of thing.
	And lo and behold, pretty much all, certainly Stalinists, but nearly all communists were like, yes, that's what we think now.
	Across the whole world.
	Is that the guy in the famous photo that disappears?
	No, no, no.
	That was one of his NKVD guys.
	He was a leader of Yugoslavia.
	It's the same for Mao in his party.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Where he'd just, you know, flip back and forth and people would fall in and out of favour and suddenly the entire party has to lurch.
	But can we just talk about the lies for a minute?
	I'm just so tired of the lies because, I mean, like, this statement is just...
	Fundamentally dishonest, right?
	No one believes that America is a more secure country and the international order is more secure because of Joe Biden, right?
	It actually became demonstrably more insecure.
	Like, Russia didn't invade Ukraine under Trump and everyone knows it's because Trump would have thrown an absolute fit, right?
	Something quite catastrophic would have happened and so Putin bided his time.
	But also, like, again, I hate the narrative lie, the lie that is just embedded in the narrative.
	But look at the first paragraph of this letter that Biden is alleged to have written, right?
	Today, America has the strongest economy in the world.
	No one thinks that.
	No one thinks that.
	We've made historic investments into rebuilding our nation.
	no one believes you.
	Lowering prescription drug costs for seniors.
	That's the first thing.
	For historic investments in our nation are in lowering prescription drug costs for seniors.
	So what is the level of inflation at the United States at the moment?
	How much is petrol prices compared to when Trump was in charge?
	So it's like four or five times higher.
	It's absolutely crazy that like, well, the best thing we've got is lowering prescription drug costs.
	Wouldn't it have been better if everyone wasn't being robbed through inflation?
	Janet Yellen says inflation isn't a problem or it isn't really happening.
	Well, everyone knows it is.
	I mean, whenever you go to buy anything at the grocery store, whenever you buy any normal necessary thing, you're like, my god, how is this costing so much?
	And so that would have actually been better than lowering prescription drug costs.
	But again, the lie is just embedded in the narrative.
	In expanding affordable healthcare to a record number of Americans, OK, but maybe things would be more affordable if they were just not very expensive.
	We've provided critically needed care to a million veterans exposed to toxic substances.
	OK, that's good.
	We've passed the first gun safety laws.
	OK, great.
	We've appointed the first African-American woman to the Supreme Court.
	Well, bravo.
	Well done.
	And passed the most significant climate change legislation in the history of the world.
	Right.
	Nonsense.
	These are nonsense achievements.
	These are total nonsense compared to the absolute, you know, when you put them on the scales next to the massive dramatic failures.
	They've got people killed.
	It's just staggering how they could have the balls to try and be like, look, okay, this was an unmitigated disaster.
	We're really sorry about this.
	And that last line of that paragraph statement, America has never been better positioned to lead than we are today.
	Unbelievable.
	Like, what a lie.
	It's just a lie, isn't it?
	Oh, yeah, it's just a lie.
	It's just a lie.
	I love the, I know none of this could have been done without you, the American people.
	It's like, oh yeah, there's a lot of democracy in the Democratic Party.
	Yeah.
	So I think, I think it's fair to say because, you know, Biden's tenure will be coming to an end.
	It looks like one way or another.
	Oh yeah.
	So we can start to sort of look at his legacy or what it meant, what the Biden administration meant in the sweep of American history.
	You can start to do that already, I think.
	And, you know, my take, I think a lot of people's take will be that it was a fail.
	That's generous.
	Just an outright fail from start to finish.
	If you cast your mind back to 2019, 2020, the people in the party didn't want Biden.
	He had to get sort of shoehorned in.
	There was some sort of grassroots swelling of support for Bernie, wasn't there?
	Remember all the Bernie bros?
	People wanted someone a bit more like Bernie.
	Maybe.
	The party, anyway.
	Well, he came in the same way that he went out.
	It was arranged in the background.
	Right.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	There's a particular quote from Obama, which is, you don't have to do this, Joe.
	You don't have to do this.
	Nobody wants you to do it.
	And Joe did it anyway.
	Well, because he was a bit more competent back then, at least.
	He was.
	And, you know, when you've been a senator or whatever it is for 40 odd years or whatever it was, you've always got your eye on the big seat.
	And I guess he just always wanted that.
	You can only imagine.
	Everyone that gets involved in party politics, even if they might not even admit it to themselves, want the big job.
	Otherwise, what's the point in getting involved?
	Not everyone, but a lot of them.
	Certainly if you're a senior politician, and it's within reach, You know, it's like being a race car driver and someone offers you a Formula 1 seat.
	Of course you're going to take it.
	You're going to do everything to take it.
	That's the whole point of doing that.
	Being in that... Okay, so anyway.
	So I sort of don't blame him in a way.
	I blame the, you know, the handlers, the people behind the scenes that...
	Sort of did it, put him forward.
	They didn't want him.
	They didn't want Kamala.
	The party didn't want Kamala.
	They didn't want her either.
	But I think, you know, I think historians will look back at the Biden administration as a time, like in Roman history, where, OK, perhaps the Republic didn't die then exactly.
	But it took mortal wounds.
	You know, it got bruised.
	It took bruises that won't heal.
	Something like the Tiberius or Gaius Gracchus age during the late Roman Republic.
	Something where the first fractures, sort of completely undeniable fractures occurred.
	That almost certainly won't really get healed and wounds that later people will just stick their fingers in and rent apart.
	I think that's what they'll look back at Biden as, a vehicle that did that to the Republic.
	Because they kind of corrupted themselves into a corner.
	Yeah.
	Because all of this has been by design.
	They engineered it in.
	I mean, I was just watching before we came on something with RFK and they were saying about how they rigged the last Democratic primary against him.
	Yeah, they rigged it against Bernie too.
	They're just not having a primary.
	Yeah, they always just rig it.
	And so they rigged themselves into a situation where they got their puppet, but he became visibly senile, and they're going to rig it again now.
	And it's just going to continue to make it worse.
	Well, they're not going to rig it now because they're just going to skip the idea of having an election.
	I mean for the primary.
	They're just going to skip that entirely.
	They're going to install whoever it is they want.
	I think the most important question is whether Zelensky is going to get paid.
	That's the most important thing here.
	Both sides are going to get paid.
	I shouldn't laugh, it's not funny.
	Zelensky must be blowing up Joe's phone right now.
	There must be like 57 missed calls or something.
	I don't buy that at all.
	I don't think Zelensky's in any doubt that he's getting the money because the Trump administration will also give him the money.
	Nancy's promised him so.
	Yeah but it's it's not even just that like Trump will side with Zelensky and Zelensky has always been very favorable towards Trump because he's he's well aware that it doesn't matter who's in charge of the United States like this is the American empire that is at stake here so he will get that money.
	Maybe we'll at least get some more.
	I don't know though.
	We'll have to see about Trump because he's made some noises about Putin saying, no, if it's up to me, if I'm president, I'll try and draw that conflict to a close.
	And Putin's been like, that's interesting.
	I don't know really what he means.
	I haven't been on the phone to the Donald, so I haven't got any insights into the details of what he means by that, but that sounds good.
	So to wrap this up then, we can say that we've got five months of Joe Biden being senile.
	Yeah yeah I mean yeah the last thing I would just say is that um yeah whether they will go for sort of a another fortified election or or not uh but I suppose if you want to wrap it up and we can start talking about who comes next.
	Yeah, well we've got some rumble rants we've got to read through first.
	Oh yeah.
	Bald Eagle says, I doubt that Biden has the ailment they say he has.
	He said he was only going to drop out if he got something, then he mysteriously catches something.
	Seems awfully convenient.
	Yeah, I get the feeling they just kind of just gave him a Covid test.
	Oh yeah, that's positive, yeah.
	Oh, you're going to have to stand down now.
	Sorry.
	He caught Alzheimer's five years ago.
	I mean, having dementia wasn't enough.
	Caleb Knight says, can we have an AI president trained on political theory transcripts?
	Well, yeah.
	How much worse could it be?
	Yeah.
	I mean, honestly, I think at this point, Chad GPT probably would come up with a better series of policy proposals.
	Let Terry Crews have a go.
	NoLongPork says, third Democrat primary in a row where the voters have had no say but that will allow the NPC 2.0 update.
	Yes.
	ArseRussian says, imagine being the poor guy who's been printing the Biden ballots for three months.
	Raise fist, yes, that's where you stole that from.
	NoLongPork again says, as a Yank, I'm sorry for hogging all the news for the last 10 days.
	It's been pretty interesting as of late.
	Ballot forgers are confused as anyone right now.
	Well, I mean, how much money has Soros wasted on those?
	That's funny, the ballot forger is like, what name are we using?
	The Last Russian says a real Catholic would never pull out.
	Axis says those 3am Kamala votes on their way.
	Well, they're all registered for Biden.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	And Sunday afternoon, it was National Ice Cream Day as well.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	Anyway, let's let's move on to talk about who the next Democrat nominee will be.
	It's probably going to be Kamala Harris.
	Because Joe Biden has endorsed her, apparently.
	Joe Biden, his account, posted this.
	Again, we've established that Joe Biden is not in control of his account, or his faculty, or his government, or his bowels.
	Whatever cabal is controlling the Joe Biden presidency has posted this and they've decided, no, Kamala is going to be their girl.
	I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year.
	Democrats, it's time to come together and beat Trump.
	Let's do this.
	Wow, that's a laughable statement.
	So Kamala Harris is not an unknown quantity.
	The electorate of the United States are well familiar with her and we'll get into how popular she is in a minute.
	But why?
	Why is it her?
	Why not Hillary?
	Lots of people were speculating it could have been Hillary.
	Well there is the 200 million.
	So they've raised about 200 million on a Biden and Harris ticket and apparently they can't use it unless it's Harris.
	So they figured that the 200 million is better than what they'd raise with somebody else.
	Quite possibly.
	So you think they've got a chain, an anchor tied to them which is their Democrat donors.
	And I also hear, and I don't know how accurate this is, that it's quite late to be changing the ticket beyond that in terms of getting on all of the states.
	I think they might have lost Nevada already because they can't change.
	Really?
	So that's something I wanted to know about, the technicalities exactly of it, whether at the convention, which I believe is in late August, Whether they have to go with Kamala at that point or whether they can still sort of coo her out of the way and get someone else in.
	Because I think they can.
	So I was watching some TV, like BBC on the TV news the other night and they had someone on and there was one of the bigger beasts that used to be in the Democrat Party that's now an Independent was saying he was considering, I can't remember the name of the guy.
	Not RFK?
	No, no.
	And was considering rejoining the Democrat Party so that he can, at the convention, throw his hat in the ring.
	So I'm not sure if it's sort of legally locked in, but what you just said there is also true.
	There are certainly some states where it's too late.
	So I'll give you a quick breakdown of the rule system that they use at the DNC.
	OK.
	Whatever the powerful people want.
	OK.
	I mean, it doesn't matter what the rules say.
	Right.
	They will just change all of the rules to get whatever the cabal controlling it wants.
	Yes.
	And I think if there's one thing we can be sure of, it's that Kamala Harris will be a compliant puppet.
	I mean she seems to be a woman who's never had an original thought of her own to be honest.
	She's not very bright at all.
	No she's really not and it's actually kind of impressive the level of vacuousness that Kamala Harris has achieved.
	I mean obviously she gives us her pronouns and she explains that she sat at a table wearing a blue suit.
	It's very interesting but there are other things that just Just remarkable.
	- Remember Venn diagrams, those three circles?
	Right, and then let's just see where they overlap.
	You will not be surprised 'cause I have constructed a Venn diagram on this.
	Remember those three circles, how they overlap?
	I love Venn diagrams, so I just do.
	Whenever you're dealing with conflict, pull out a Venn diagram, right?
	And so, you know, the three circles.
	The television coverage of just yesterday, that's on top of everything else.
	That we know and don't know yet, based on what we've just been able to see, and because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
	But just limited to what we have seen.
	For us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to see the moment In time in which we exist and are present.
	I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been.
	You know?
	Six former administration officials last week wrote that open letter urging the administration to change course, to change strategy.
	Is it time?
	It is time for us to do what we have been doing and that time is every day.
	Every day it is time for us to agree.
	Our Supreme Court is on the line.
	Our basic freedom... Well, I'll leave the light on that one, because it just... She just talks, but no content comes out.
	Like, I mean, what am I supposed to take away from any of those things?
	So, I'm trying to figure out, is she genuinely that dumb?
	Or is she just reasonably dumb and she's dumbing it down?
	Well, I mean, she definitely she definitely dumbs herself down for our audience.
	But I mean, there's a genuine skill in being able to speak, you know, five or six coherent sentences, but actually transmit no information.
	That's actually quite impressive, and it's clearly got her to where she is today.
	So the mark of an intelligent person is always when they can take a complex idea and break it down very simply so that everybody understands it.
	Correct.
	But she takes a load of vacuous nonsense and breaks it down to the point that it probably doesn't mean what she meant it to mean in the first place.
	It's real, real verbal garbage, isn't it?
	Do you remember Donald Rumsfeld one time?
	He did a press interview at the Pentagon talking about how there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns and it's a bit of word garbage but actually it did actually mean something.
	Although it was weirdly put and it was odd there was actually something there.
	Well that makes perfect sense.
	You know there are things you don't know or you don't know there are things you don't know.
	But when he said it it's just like that's such a weird convoluted Kind of not helpful way of saying things.
	But that's top-level highbrow compared to this.
	Yeah, whereas this is just true garbage.
	Live today so the future today will pass today as it is tomorrow.
	What are you saying?
	And I'm pretty sure she was drunk in some of those clips as well.
	Quite possibly.
	You know that line about being unburdened by what has been?
	Yeah.
	Have you seen the compilation where she says it like 20 times?
	And I love the way that she thinks that she's being really profound and cryptic.
	It's like the Venn diagram.
	If I mention Venn diagrams, people think I'm clever.
	But to everybody with an IQ of triple digits, it's like, yeah, we know you're talking about you replacing Joe Biden.
	You're not being cryptic and clever.
	Meanwhile, we've got, we'll just have another piece of Kamala's remarkable insight and wisdom.
	The governor and I, and we were all I'm doing a tour of the library here and I'm talking about the significance of the passage of time.
	Right?
	The significance of the passage of time.
	So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs.
	And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.
	What is she talking about?
	What point am I meant to take from this?
	This just screams 92 IQ to me or something.
	Yeah.
	See, to me, it screams 110 IQ, but with the perspective of being a middle manager in a large bureaucracy.
	And so, right, you need to get up and fill some time now.
	It's like, OK, well, I'm going to say something that's essentially impenetrable so I can't get in trouble.
	With my superiors over this.
	And so I'm, you know, passage of time isn't significant to our children, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And it's like, yeah, the Venn diagrams.
	Okay.
	Now, uh, right.
	Okay.
	Well, no one's angry at me because no one could follow what I was saying because there was no content to it.
	I've got to go with Dan.
	This is like 85, 90 IQ for me.
	That's my take is that when you, when you're not even aware that you're coming across as really dumb, you genuinely think what you're saying is, is there something to it?
	Um, I don't, I don't know.
	I think that she's mastered the art of bamboozling people.
	But that's the thing, no one's bamboozled by it though.
	Most people's take, her outtake's like, what was that?
	Yeah, but that is what being bamboozled is.
	Like, I don't know what she just said there.
	Well, not truly bamboozled.
	I mean, the actual bottom line is she's dumb.
	I think with bamboozled, you have to think that there's something that you're not getting, not just listening to complete nonsense.
	Maybe, maybe.
	But anyway, so I saw a lot of online, uh, I want to say cope about this.
	Like, posts like this where it's like, ah, there was a Zoom call tonight for black women organizing for Kamala Harris, and a maximum of 1,000 people, and they hit it immediately, and 40,000 people joined with the CEO of Zoom's help.
	Trump is so screwed, it's like, no one thinks Trump is screwed from this.
	And it's just constant, like, non-stop.
	Like you were saying, they've all, like, the proper apparatchiks they are, jumped onto the line going, right, okay, the narrative is Kamala's amazing, we're going to win.
	It's like, There's no authentic, sincere belief.
	Because all the right-wingers on Twitter started talking about who's going to replace Biden.
	Yeah.
	But you go on CNN and MSNBC and it's just like, they've got the line.
	The line is Camilla.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Kamala.
	Whatever.
	I'm glad that she is.
	She'll be the first woman of colour, no less.
	Thank God.
	But the point is, like, the incredible amounts of Honestly, Soviet-style message discipline, which is remarkable because Kamala hasn't been officially confirmed or anything like that, so who knows?
	But it's weird that... I mean, she sort of has because they've already changed the Biden for re-election thing.
	Yeah, well, again, nothing official, but...
	The pillar holding up the Democrat Party has decided.
	The mechanism has got on board.
	Exactly, yeah.
	And what's interesting as well is like, you know, Nikki Haley PAC voters were announcing support for Kamala Harris.
	Like, really?
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	You know, the Uni Party is like, you know, this is our girl.
	Yeah, because their sniper wasn't meant to miss and she was supposed to be running against Biden.
	Well, that is certainly one piece of speculation that is doing the rounds.
	So, I thought we'd have a look at how Kamala actually fares against Trump in 2024.
	I heard that the Trump side were happy.
	Well, I'm a Trump partisan and I'm happy.
	Yeah, yeah, we'll take her as an opponent.
	I'm thrilled that it's her.
	I mean, just before we get on to this...
	Going right back to the beginning, I think the first thing she properly ran for was DA of California.
	Yeah, and she just squeaked it.
	Yeah, in California.
	She just squeaked it in California.
	Against a Republican.
	Yeah.
	It's amazing.
	And she's not got exactly a track record of glorious conquest.
	Didn't she come in that previous primary for the Democrat president, didn't she come dead last?
	She was definitely in the sort of below 5% bracket.
	Joe Biden was about 36%.
	So even then, he wasn't.
	She was Attorney General, wasn't she?
	She was.
	She was deeply unpopular in that role.
	That's only because she kept prosecuting people for drug offences and things like that.
	And then California legalised weed.
	It's like, oh, sorry.
	You failed to read the room there.
	Yeah, anyway, as you can see from the polling, Biden and Harris are both below Trump in the polling.
	They're both trailing.
	Biden's not doing great, but then neither is Harris.
	Trump's going to beat them both, basically.
	Plus polls are fake.
	Yeah, polls are fake.
	But then when asked about the general approval rating that Harris has, she's the least approved of those three candidates.
	And this is before most people have heard her speak?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But like I said, she's not an unknown quantity.
	You know, she's been on TV.
	Lots of people would be familiar with her.
	And only basically hardcore Democrat partisans like her.
	And everyone else I know.
	So the thing is, she is unlikable.
	Yeah.
	On camera.
	Yeah, but to put this in perspective, she's less likeable than Hillary Clinton.
	She's less likeable than a lot of people.
	And it's because she seems like such a vacuous, empty chair.
	Like, why is she even here?
	She can be unlikable, but have some substance to you.
	Sure.
	And if you're unlikable and an empty bag, then you've got nothing.
	Nixon's not a likeable guy, but he was clearly going to get stuff done.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Um, but, and this is the thing, a lot of people on the right are like, how is Biden likable?
	Biden is likable.
	Like Biden to the sort of unaligned boomer or the sort of Democrat leaning boomer is a likable character, right?
	He gives his stupid anecdotes and he feels like kind of grandfatherly presence.
	And so you feel, okay, well, there's something, there's a kind of continuity here.
	There's a kind of cultural representation here.
	And he's clearly a winner because Biden won everything from his first race in the early seventies on every election he ever thought he won.
	Yeah, and he was the vice president and, you know, everyone's got good feelings about his bromance with Obama and stuff like this.
	Biden is a likable guy, even if you're, you know, and you have to accept the virtues of your enemies, right?
	Even when he's like in front of a red screen being like, I'm going to exterminate MAGA.
	He's still got a likable quality to him.
	Harris doesn't.
	And so, you know, how was she chosen exactly?
	And that's a great question.
	We've been promised an orderly process to replace Biden, but that's not going to include a primary election.
	So it looks like she's just going to be installed by dint of the fact that she has been Anointed by the gods of the Democrat Party.
	So was it 2012, the last time the Democrats had a proper primary?
	No, they had one with Tulsi Gabbard and all that.
	No, that one.
	No, because that's when they installed Biden.
	No, I thought he won that.
	Because Biden was most popular.
	No, I think they installed him.
	I'll have to double check.
	Because it was Bernie Sanders, wasn't it?
	If they let it run, it would have been Bernie Sanders.
	So they started manipulating it and just made it Biden.
	I'll take your word on that.
	But apparently the Democrat National Committee Chair Jamie Harrison says, we're going to have a transparent and orderly process to move forward.
	Which, hilarious, no one believes that.
	And this basically, what basically comes down to, is there are about 4,700 Democrat convention delegates, 3,900 of them have pledged for Biden, and they are now free to vote for whoever they want, but Biden's delegates Biden has endorsed Kamala, so they're probably just going to come and vote for her.
	Well, they're delegates for Biden and Harris, so they're on the Harris train.
	So they're doubtless going to go for her.
	And one former delegate actually came out and said, well, I haven't heard any other names.
	No other potential candidates have rung me up and said, can I count on your vote?
	Yeah, because they flushed them all at the last primary.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So there isn't anyone else.
	Yeah, there's not going to be a primary, obviously.
	And the Washington Post have been like, yeah, well, it's just going to be a very bureaucratic process.
	They've got a spreadsheet, in fact, a little Venn diagram.
	So it's just going to be a very bureaucratic process.
	could or could not involve a vote at one stage you can see here there may be a vote there but uh it looks like we're going down this route so no there'll be unity around the delegates because we're not hearing any other names uh there'll be quite a virtual vote maybe but probably get onto the no vote and then the decision will be made at the convention or it'll just be Harris because everyone will agree it's Harris uh and so it's like right okay well amazing
	So what all this leads to is the Democrat Party being in total disarray because no one expected this.
	No one expected that Biden was going to step down because the messaging that the apparatchiks had to parrot out was, oh Biden's staying, Biden's going to be the nominee, Biden's going to be the nominee.
	And then suddenly, the cabal around Biden withdraw Biden, and so now it's like, panic.
	House on fire, what are we going to do?
	Well, Kamala, she's going to be the person.
	The time for Joe to have formally made it clear he wasn't going to run was a good six months ago or more, maybe more like a year ago.
	Start making noises about a year ago and then about six months ago say, no, I'm definitely not.
	Well, as far as I'm concerned, he still hasn't made it clear because I don't know that he knows.
	We haven't seen the man.
	We haven't seen him say it with his own mouth.
	But also, we know that he's not running a social media account, so there's no proof that Biden has any clue that he's not running.
	But as Rolling Stone reported here, DNC staff were caught by surprise when Biden announced his withdrawal.
	Two sources familiar with the situation tell them.
	Of course they were caught off guard, one close Biden ally said on Sunday.
	The work we must now do, while unprecedented, is clear.
	And this is Harrison talking.
	In the coming days, the Democratic Party will carry on, blah blah blah.
	And like I said, the delegates just haven't heard from any other candidates.
	So, it seems that there is, quote, uniform support for Harris.
	We'll see.
	Remarkable.
	I think over the next week or two, we'll see.
	Oh!
	Someone like Newsom really wants to throw his hat in the ring.
	Well, maybe.
	Yeah, why would he though?
	Why would he at this election?
	Yeah, why?
	Because he's only in his 40s, isn't he?
	Yeah, he must be.
	I would have thought so.
	He's not very old, is he?
	Yeah, so why, you know, he can wait for the sinking ship to finally sink.
	And that's the thing, who would choose to be Kamala's VP at this point?
	Yeah, and apparently she loses a lot of staff because she's just unbelievably awful to the people who work for her.
	AOC actually, I saw it just before the podcast, I didn't have time to add it, but she came out and said, look, we're being told by the party machinery that we have to support this.
	A lot of anonymous leakers are coming out and saying, well, I don't really know what's happening and stuff like this, so I'm going to tell you the truth.
	It's like, OK, well, good.
	You know, you are right.
	There are factions within the Democrat Party that are currently fighting out.
	But of course, this sort of core pillar of the cabal that controls it is incredibly powerful.
	And has an iron-fisted grip.
	Chuck Schumer.
	Yeah, I don't think anyone's going to come out and challenge it.
	But the point is, the Democrats are in total disarray.
	This is not planned, and they're people who love their plans.
	They are big on plans, they're not big on spontaneous work.
	And it's been really upsetting for them.
	I mean, people like Van Jones.
	Van Jones worked for Biden.
	When he was, I think he was the VP for Obama, Van Jones worked for Biden.
	And he's just in tears.
	That's leadership.
	That's responsibility.
	That's what America is supposed to be about.
	I love Joe Biden.
	You have people on both sides of the fight in the party who are crying right now, who can't believe it right now.
	This is not a normal time, y'all.
	This isn't just politics.
	This is a moment in time To honor someone who for 50 years put this country first and sacrificed and sacrificed and sacrificed and sacrificed and sacrificed.
	And today he's sacrificed again.
	That's Joe Biden.
	I love Joe Biden.
	This country should get around Joe Biden and help our president through these last few months.
	I mean, that is just a remarkable series of statements.
	And he was so emotional he slipped in a yo-oh.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, just to make sure you understand he's being authentic.
	Yeah.
	But the thing is, I believe him.
	I believe that there are people in the DNC crying about this.
	I believe that the political class are crying about this.
	The commentariat for the Democrats are crying about this.
	They're panicking.
	They're like, oh God, the entire House of Cards has come tumbling down.
	Because what is it the Democrats are even offering?
	What is, like, their big promise is not Trump?
	Their big promise is- So if we assume a level of rationality amongst them, the best argument that I can come up with is that they know that they cleared the decks at the last time round to get Biden in, because they had a depth of talent.
	They had RFK and they had Tulsi Gabbard.
	They had a whole bunch of them that were legitimate candidates and they basically purged them all.
	And they realised that they've only got Camilla, so they're going to let her crash and burn at this election so that she can't run in 2029.
	So they've got between now and 2029 to develop a new field of candidates.
	That would be the rational case.
	The other thing to say is that you say, why would anyone want to run against the Donald in 24 because you're going to lose?
	Yeah, fair point.
	But then there's lots of people you would want to do it anyway just because it raises your profile and you know you'll lose but it means you get to be a big beast later on in your career.
	Some mid-level senator.
	Someone like RFK.
	Okay he'll lose in 2024 but then after that he still remains as one of the biggest fish.
	Well he's running anyway so yeah legitimately the DNC should adopt RFK.
	That's the only chance they have of winning.
	Yeah but there's something about the tension that's created by the Stalinist program that the DNC operates under that means they can't be flexible, right?
	They've got, you know, all of the sort of strings pulled taut.
	And even though they're still sinking into the ocean, they can't let go of that.
	And so the thing is just going to capsize on its own.
	Even though they're holding everything as tightly as possible, and that's what I think Van Jones is getting emotional about.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	It's certainly interesting to see, like, the Uni Party, the Deep State, wherever it is, the people that control the Democratic Party apparatus.
	It's not like they control everything and they're playing 4D chess with everything else.
	Yeah, no, they only control their own party.
	They have to react to the world as is.
	They have to react to events like everyone else.
	And they're not perfect.
	No.
	And they know that the Democrat Party is going down.
	That's the thing.
	They can see it in real time.
	And they've not got the talent to turn it around.
	And I just thought we'd contrast that.
	The Democrat Party in complete disarray.
	A bunch of very, very boring midwits who nobody is interested in hearing from.
	To the Republican Party, which is, of course, booming at the moment.
	Like, the Republican... It was a raucous, charged party!
	Yes, it was!
	You know, it, like, it literally had Hulk Hogan on the stage, tearing off his shirt, being like, Trumpomania's running wild, brother!
	You know, Trump just survived an assassination attempt.
	Like, he, and he, he survived it with panache.
	He looked good doing it.
	He impressed everyone.
	Even, like, Mark Zuckerberg came out and was like, That was the most badass thing I've ever seen.
	Yeah, even bloody Cenk Uygur was in Britain.
	Exactly!
	You know, Elon Musk is currently actively campaigning for the Republicans and Trump at this point.
	And there is a sense of unity in the Republican Party that has a different tone to the unity in the Democrat Party, whereas the unity in the Democrat Party, you can tell it's like some clenched fist holding them all together, no one will move.
	You will do exactly as you're told.
	I watched the RNC when the delegates were declaring, and they were thrilled to do it.
	You could see the exuberance on their faces.
	70 delegates for Nebraska or whatever, proud to declare for Trump.
	And they were all thrilled.
	There was music.
	It was a big party atmosphere.
	Everyone was excited to be there.
	And it was just a vibe.
	In each one, there's energy in each one, and in the Democrats it is the fear of about to drive off a cliff.
	And with the Republicans, it's the excitement of about to win a massive battle.
	It's funny, a note on inclusion, that it's the leftists that like to think of themselves as inclusive, and it's the evil White boys that run the conservative movement that aren't inclusive.
	It's funny, Trump and the RNC was, you know, really, really inclusive.
	And it's the Democrats that are like, no, if you're white, straight, and male, or just any of those things, then you're actively not wanted, sort of thing.
	And all the Democrats on Twitter are actively pushing the line that GOP are panicking, which is obviously projection.
	Yeah, there's no panic whatsoever.
	But it's projection.
	They are panicking.
	Oh, completely.
	But again, I really want to emphasize there's a kind of freedom in the Republican Party to be a bit kooky, to be a bit off-message.
	They had weird people up giving speeches.
	I mean, like Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt.
	I mean, come on.
	Is that on message from the Democrat perspective?
	That forehead tattoo lady?
	Yeah, yeah.
	There's a kind of self-confidence in it.
	Right, that is not present in the Democrats.
	And you can see where the energy, the positive energy is, and where the negative energy is.
	And so I'm just, honestly, I think the Democrats are going to get crushed if they're running Kamala.
	Well, a note about Kamala, you know, she's more than simply sort of an obnoxious cackling simpleton.
	Right, she's much, much worse than merely that.
	She's a liar.
	Out of all the things that the Democrats have done over the last three, four years, one of the things that sticks in my mind, I sort of can't get over in a way, it's funny how certain things from history stick in your mind, but one of them was, I think it was on the year anniversary of January the 6th, they came out and made a big deal out of it and Biden did a little speech and Kamala did a speech.
	And she likened it directly to December 7th, 1941.
	Pearl Harbor.
	Pearl Harbor.
	And 9-11, 2001.
	Right.
	And she said it was on a par with those things as an attack on America.
	On January 6th?
	Yeah.
	That certain dates will go down in history and January 6th is one of them.
	She got a bit angry about the attack on their values and on democracy and on the infrastructure of America, what America is and all that sort of thing.
	Obviously that's a liar, but the size of that liar though, the magnitude of it, is almost unbelievable.
	I sort of couldn't really believe it when it's happening.
	When you tell liars as big as that, when you're sort of spitting in the face of history, you're spitting in the face of your own war dead, You know, what happened at Pearl Harbor?
	What happened at 9-11?
	I mean, it's breathtaking, really.
	So that said, for sheer entertainment value, I'm really happy with this timeline.
	Oh yeah.
	I'm looking forward to the upcoming election with Kamala versus Trump.
	It is dramatic and exciting.
	But right, let's go through some rumble rants.
	Sean says, with the VP being an anchor baby and Biden not there, the Speaker of the House should be running things.
	They are third in line, aren't they?
	Who's the Speaker of the House at the moment?
	Is it Kevin McCarthy?
	A speaker?
	Yeah, the speaker of the house.
	I'm not sure.
	I'll have to check.
	Binary Surf says Joe Biden's daughter is no doubt relieved he'll be spending more time at home.
	Nah, she's too old.
	Yeah!
	Yeah, entirely possible.
	I mean, it could well be they literally just have a write-off on this one and just don't even bother.
	further campaigning for Harris.
	No one of significance tickets.
	Dems are going to keep that money raised and funnel it into the pillars pockets through donations.
	Yeah, entirely possible.
	I mean, it could well be, they literally just have a write off on this one and just don't even bother.
	Kamala Harris, like you say, she's like just the sacrificial lamb and just screw it.
	Mike Johnson.
	Right.
	Thank you very much.
	um Mason says, can you imagine if this vapid, empty-headed bimbo sleeps her way to become the first female president?
	What a whim for feminism.
	And diversity.
	Sean says, if Trump wins and does deport illegal immigrants and stops anchor babies, will he be deporting Kamala?
	So actually, on that previous point, she has played an absolute blinder.
	For somebody who's as thick and unlikable as she is, the way that she's navigated her way to the top is genuinely impressive.
	I'll give her that.
	Yeah, I don't know if she's sick.
	I'm not convinced.
	I think that it's a skill to be able to say nothing for, like, five minutes at a time.
	I genuinely think that's what it is.
	But she doesn't do it well, though.
	But if you're intelligent, you just accidentally say something intelligent every once in a while.
	No, no, no.
	Well, that's the point.
	That's why it's a skill.
	Like, I view it like a magician.
	I view, you know, it's like, you know, you can't see... An illusionist.
	Yeah, yeah, like an illusionist.
	You can't see how the trick is done.
	I do think you're being unreasonably charitable.
	Because she's not interested in any of the things that are happening.
	What she's doing is just being a part of the machinery.
	Why wouldn't there be at least one clip of her saying something smart?
	Well, I'm sure there are clips of her saying something smart, but it's not going around, right?
	I think she's just an illusionist.
	Can we get a Venn diagram?
	As long as that Venn diagram is unburdened by what has been.
	Oh, that can't be true.
	I don't think it's 13.
	If that's true, if California's out then that's it.
	If I'm reading this right, Dems already lost 13 states which are out legally, including California because of the deadline.
	Oh, that can't be true.
	I don't think it's 13.
	If that's true, if California's out, then that's it.
	I think it's only Nevada, but I need to be fat-checked on that.
	Lars Roshan says, Kamala Harris raised bail money for the Black Lives Matter rioters.
	The organization she raised money for and bailed people out went on to commit rape and murder when bailed.
	What a shock.
	What a shock.
	But anyway, we'll leave that there.
	That's quite a hillbilly elegy.
	Yeah, so I've just read Kill Billy Elegy, which is J.D.
	Vance's book.
	It is actually.
	Can we get the cover up?
	What is it?
	A memoir?
	A novel?
	What are we talking about?
	So it's written from J.D.
	Vance's perspective and it sort of covers his childhood to early adulthood.
	In the first person?
	Yeah.
	So it's an autobiography?
	No, but the thing is, it's not, right?
	So it's not really about him.
	It's about the family around him.
	And you know this because the chapter when he goes off and does the Marines, he's not around his family and he skims through it so incredibly quickly.
	It's really a story about his family.
	He was in the Marine Corps?
	Yeah he was, yeah.
	So I'll go through briefly his story because I think it's a fascinating perspective on who this man is because when I first heard it was J.D.
	Vance I did the standard thing which is okay what's his views on China or Ukraine or something like that and you just go straight to the big externalities really.
	What I got from reading this is perhaps what an inspired choice that he is.
	And certainly MSNBC, I was watching them reacting to the Vance pick and they just couldn't get it at all because they were just like, yeah but he's from Ohio.
	Ohio?
	Ohio, yes.
	Was it?
	Kentucky.
	And MSNBC was just like, well Trump's going to win those states anyway, so why would you pick him?
	And reading this book it gave me an appreciation that Trump probably doesn't just want to win.
	He wants to actually do something with that win.
	And he wants to do something for the people who voted for him.
	Which is not normally how politics works.
	No, certainly not in this country.
	You only do something for your most marginal voters.
	You don't do it for your hardcore voters and whatever it was.
	Kentucky went like 62% Trump.
	And also another thing to say is that you obviously want to win your presidential race if you're running to be the president.
	But ideally, also, you want your party to control Congress and the Senate, if possible, if you can get the trifecta.
	So that is really important because it's one thing to be president, but then if you're just immediately hamstrung by not controlling either Congress or Senate, then you won't be able to get much done.
	So this book he actually wrote after finishing Yale Law, and it's apparently an international bestseller.
	It's sold over a million copies.
	So this was a big-selling book long before he got into politics.
	And it is a good read.
	I mean, nothing remarkable happens in it apart from the fact that somebody with a background like that, and I'll tell you briefly about his background, ends up going to Yale Law, let alone becoming the next VP of the United States.
	Because he does have a sort of horrific background.
	There's also a Netflix version of this, which I didn't watch because I just thought, well, Netflix, you know, they probably cast a black lesbian as JD Vance.
	I did skim through it this morning and it doesn't look that bad.
	One thing actually the Netflix version does do very well is it shows his town when his grandparents arrived in this middle town and it was vibrant and that would have been 1940s, maybe early 1950s.
	And then it cuts to him driving in with his mum, like 30 years later, and the whole place is just run down, shut down, all the industry's gone.
	So the Netflix version did do that, well, I saw at least.
	But yeah, so basically describes about Vance growing up in this, you know, rust belt town.
	Post-industrial American heartland.
	Yeah.
	And actually, the story starts with his family's roots in Kentucky.
	You know, as the title suggests, a bunch of hillbillies.
	And the story kind of really starts with his grandparents, which he calls Mama and Papao.
	Mamao and Papao.
	And they were born during the Great Depression in Kentucky.
	And then they moved to... In fact, his grandmother got pregnant at 13 with his aunt.
	And they moved up to Ohio.
	Why can't I say that?
	Ohio.
	That's the one.
	To get work.
	And, you know, his grandfather was a good man by the standards of the time.
	I'm using that term a little bit loosely.
	But that included the fact that he could get violent and drunk.
	And in fact, his grandmother once set his grandfather on fire after telling him, if you come home drunk one more time, I'm going to set you on fire.
	And he did.
	So she was a woman of her word.
	So she literally set him on fire.
	And J.D.
	Vance, his mother and aunt, had to put their father out lying on the on the lounge floor.
	So, I mean, his grandmother, who he idolizes, was clearly a bit of a character.
	So she very nearly killed a man at 12.
	Um, somebody was trying to steal chickens, so she just grabbed a shotgun and blasted him in the face.
	Yes.
	The dude lived.
	How are you alive more than my chickens?
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, his grandmother was definitely a character.
	Um, I mean, another anecdote that I quite like from the story was that, um, they once concluded that a pervert had stolen JD from church.
	So his grandparents pulled out their magnums and basically held up the car park and wouldn't let anyone leave without having their vehicle searched.
	And it turned out he was actually just asleep on one of the pews.
	But that's the kind of family that they were.
	I see.
	You know, the patriarch and the matriarch of the family, but definitely the grandparents.
	And he was really raised by them.
	But whatever else they were, they managed to raise dysfunctional children because Vance's mother.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I can't believe it.
	Yeah.
	Vance.
	Because, I mean, they were silent generation.
	Sure.
	And they did the whole thing of pitch up, get work, get a four bedroom large house, live comfortably, have holidays, have cars.
	So, I mean, they just did the standard thing.
	But even You know we think of the boomers as having it all easy but by the time that town got to his mother's generation the baby boomer generation I mean it was it was already starting to fall apart and also that.
	The social problems that engendered with it as well.
	So his mother was basically working her way through the spectrum of drugs, eventually ending up overdosing on heroin.
	To death?
	No, not to death.
	I think she's still alive.
	I mean, she was alive when the book came out, the film came out.
	So I don't know what's happened to her since.
	And apparently she was clean for six years by the time the film came out, which was four years ago.
	So maybe she's 10 years clean now.
	But she basically worked her way through a series of men.
	So Vance had five different stepdads.
	And you know, because she was a drug addict and cycling through men, and when she was cycling through men, she was looking for the one that would finally treat her right.
	Which is, you know, the classic sort of woman thing.
	It's quite obvious when you read the book that the men weren't the problem, because some of them were deadbeats, but some of them left her and then had perfectly functional lives afterwards.
	She was the only common denominator in each of those relationships.
	She was a heroin addict.
	Yeah, I mean, she worked up to heroin.
	She took a while to get to that, but she was definitely somebody who was completely incapable of taking responsibility for anything, ever.
	So yeah, not a great role model.
	So he was kind of raised by his grandparents, even though they were a little distance away.
	I mean, they weren't that far away.
	But he was raised largely by his grandparents and also his older sister, who was four years older.
	And they sort of, you know, between them they raised him, but I mean the mother's home life was so unstable that their grandfather sneakily installed a telephone at the bottom of their toy box so that if things got really bad they could go to the covert phone and give the grandparents a ring and they would come over.
	So even though he idolizes his grandparents, you know, they did raise a daughter who was a complete screw-up.
	And he was always, you know, he was always finding out that, you know, we had a new stepdad situation going on.
	I mean, at one point they were living with this guy and they seemed to be having problems.
	And then one day they get home and their mum says, oh, I got married.
	He's like, well, what do you mean?
	I thought you were, I thought you weren't getting on with this guy.
	He says, oh no, I didn't marry him.
	I just married somebody else.
	And the next day they pitch up at this other guy's house and just move in with their family.
	So JD himself, I mean, he was spiraling.
	For a long time.
	Because of course, you know, you would get into a situation where he'd be absent from school for understandable reasons and then he'd get a letter home from school saying, you know, all of these absences and the parent has to sign off on it.
	He doesn't know, well, he does know who his dad is but his dad doesn't live anywhere close anymore and his mother's in one of her stints in rehab.
	So, you know, his sister has to forge the signature and they kind of have to get on with life.
	So he was really spiraling.
	But because his sister was older, I mean, of course, she got out of that situation as soon as she could.
	She married young, a bit like all the women in her family had, and she'd left.
	She actually had a successful relationship and still does as far as I know.
	But he was really spiraling when he was left with just his mother.
	And it was going to live with his grandmother, his mama, as he puts it, that really kind of started putting him on the Put him on the straight and narrow.
	Yeah.
	Because she was a, you know, she was a wiry old bird, but she was a bit of a hard task masker as well.
	And she started, you know, putting his life in order because one of the anecdotes he tells is that she had to buy an expensive calculator for him.
	Um, one of these scientific calculators for, you know, it was a thing back then.
	And if she was going to have to spend $84 on a calculator, he was bloody well going to come top of the class.
	So, you know, it started doing stuff like that.
	And also he started hanging out with, like, deadbeat friends and stuff like that.
	And she just told him, if you spend any more time with those boys, I will kill them by running them over with my car.
	And because it's her... He believed it, yeah.
	Maybe she would have done as well.
	It's the kind of thing that she would have done.
	So he started to get his act together.
	It's so important, particularly for a young man, that might not be fair, but for young people, being told unequivocally no sometimes.
	That's just a massive, massive lie.
	You can't do that thing.
	No, it's not happening.
	End of story.
	It's actually very difficult for a mother or a grandmother to do that.
	Because the same request that comes from a father as opposed to a mother can feel emasculating coming from a mother, which is why single mothers have so much more difficulty raising boys because of that sort of influence thing.
	But this character was clearly a strong enough woman that she was able to sort of get that line across and keep him together.
	Sometimes a very strong grandmother often actually is the case for a young boy because there's just sort of an innate respect Sometimes.
	Much more than even your own mother.
	If it's your grandmother.
	Yeah.
	Because you just, you don't, you can't sort of fly in the face of what she says as much.
	And she was definitely a tough character.
	And she started getting his act together for him.
	Well, I mean, I suppose he did it himself, but she was the right guidance and there wasn't this revolving door man and you know, I mean, there was there was multiple stories of like with his mother about how she would spiral and the next thing they know, they would all be stood on the front lawn while she was being taken away in a police car with all the neighbours coming out to watch.
	But it was that sort of neighbourhood.
	So, you know, the next week it would be one of the neighbours doing the same thing and they'd be stood outside watching.
	It was just like one of those, you know, sort of dysfunctional communities.
	I mean it was a strong community in a way that they kind of looked out for each other but it was also a dysfunctional one in many ways.
	So then he started getting his grades together, and then he goes off to the Marines.
	And like I say, because it's not an autobiography, because his section about the Marines is so short, because it's really about the family around him that he wants to talk about.
	So when it's just him, it kind of drops.
	In fact, even the stuff in the Marines is just about what was going on in the family and the letters he was getting and stuff like that.
	But they really sorted him out as well, because he had been raised on a diet of basically deep-fried food.
	And so the Marines took one look at him and said, you fat tub of shit, and started sorting it out.
	Knocked him into shape quite quickly.
	Did he ever go into theatre?
	Was he ever in combat?
	I think he was a war correspondent, but he doesn't say in the book what he... I mean he mentions that he was doing... No, actually that's what it is.
	It's because...
	I mean, you don't get a sense of it, but clearly the guy's a very, very smart guy.
	I mean, he set up his own VC investment firm.
	I mean, he graduated Yale Law as an editor of Law Review.
	Oh, Venture Capital.
	And he's gone on to be the... So he's clearly a very, very bright guy, but he doesn't talk, he doesn't big himself up at all in the book.
	You just get the impression he's a perfectly standard guy.
	But clearly the Marines recognized what they had when they had him.
	because they had a post which is normally filled by a captain which is sort of media relations where you need to sort of you'll be in the office one minute with the generals getting the briefing of what's going on and then you're being out taking hostile questions from from journalists and you know they booted out a captain and put him in and he was just a he was just a monkey recruit that they they sort of picked for this so so they clearly recognized that they had something with this guy
	But yeah, he doesn't really talk about that much and then he sort of goes on to Yale Law where he got a full scholarship.
	It was the only way that he could have afforded it to get in and his work ethic was obviously quite severe and he put in huge amounts of hours, got very little sleep because he was also having to work jobs just to support himself incidentally and support the family around him as well.
	But yeah, he started to get it together.
	He graduated from Yale Law very well.
	I mean, he didn't understand a lot of basic stuff.
	So, I mean, he talked about how, because he met that Usha that you saw at the R&C.
	They've been married for 26 years at this point or something like that.
	And she was invaluable to him because he just didn't know even what questions to ask.
	He didn't know what to think about in terms of stuff like that.
	So, for example, when he started having interviews with law firms, He didn't know what to do with the cutlery because, you know, there would be like seven... That old classic, yeah.
	He didn't know how to go about stuff.
	There was loads of basic stuff that he just didn't understand.
	He didn't understand networking at all.
	So, yeah, he gets through that and you go through it.
	And I think what was also so interesting, and this is an older book now, he wrote it quite a long time ago, is he clearly understands the people that he comes from, the people who are disadvantaged.
	So, for example, Politicians just look at something like payday loans, and because rich people take out loans all the time, but they do them over 3-4 years, and they structure it into something.
	Whereas payday loans, if you look at the interest rate on a payday loan over 4 years, it's like 10,000% or something.
	But he understands.
	There's loads of situations where, you know, you're going to get paid on Monday but your rent's due on Friday and you're going to get a late fee if you don't do it and you need it for the weekend.
	And it's just one of a whole number of examples where he kind of understands the plight of the poor in a way that most politicians don't.
	So I'm starting to think, yeah, this is quite an inspired Okay.
	VP pick.
	Okay.
	Because, you know, he, not for what he thinks about geopolitics or tax rates, but he just...
	How he understands the Americans.
	He understands the passed over Americans.
	And actually, a lot of what he writes for Hillbillies is just as applicable to the black community as well, you know, having been passed over by all of that stuff.
	And, you know, this political system It's kind of been a lot for a long time.
	I think this is the first election since 1976 where there hasn't been a Bush, a Clinton or Biden on the ticket.
	Yeah.
	I mean, this is why it's so locked up.
	Yeah.
	And you look at this guy, right?
	And.
	You know, we all like Trump, but as I always say, you can only upgrade a boomer so far.
	And this guy's a millennial.
	He follows people that we've had on this show.
	Yeah, doesn't he know Aaron McIntyre?
	Yeah.
	I think he actually knows him.
	I don't know how well he knows him, but yeah, he knows him.
	And he follows a guy that we're going to have on the podcast this week.
	So, you know, we are all mutuals with, you know, people that he follows.
	I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he watches all the same content as us.
	He may have even watched some Lotus Eaters content at some point.
	I'm sure he's at least watched some of your videos.
	If we make our thumbnail blatant enough, he might watch this very video.
	Yeah, it's quite possible.
	Give us a call Mr Vance, come on, we'll interview you.
	I'm really inspired by this because, you know, Trump didn't just pick a VP, he picked the presumptive nominee in 2029.
	And it's somebody who's in our orbit.
	So, you know, I love this.
	I recommend the book.
	It's a short book.
	I mean, I read it in about three hours.
	I know I read faster than most, but, you know, it's not that long and it's a good read.
	So, yeah, check it out.
	Cool.
	Right.
	Shall we do something?
	Let's do some rumble raps.
	OPHUK says, Carl, there's a village near here called UK.
	I'm thinking of writing a book about it called Of UK.
	Haha.
	That's a random name says, being raised by dysfunctional parents can either break their children or forge them into better people.
	Outside influences in children's lives are crucial, which is why so many end up in gangs.
	Correct.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	The Queen's Piper plays the lament.
	Sleep, dearie, sleep.
	Aw.
	What was she, some sort of Jack Russell mix or something?
	Looks like a Corgi.
	Oh, yeah.
	Very, very...
	Strange, strange colours.
	What's it, a mongrel, I'd imagine?
	Happy looking dog, nonetheless.
	I love little dogs.
	I love all dogs.
	Let's go to the next one.
	I hope you can indulge me for this comment, as today my grandfather passed away, and I wanted to do something to honour his memory.
	He married in his early 20s, became a secondary school D&T teacher and raised four children.
	He was so good at everything he did that he was able to build his own house and teach me how to build a PC.
	We may criticize the boomer generation, but this man truly was the greatest man I ever knew.
	He's survived by four children, seven grandchildren, and six great-grandchildren.
	These are somber video games.
	I'm very sorry to hear your loss.
	Really sorry.
	But what a successful life he led.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	Let's go for the next one.
	Well, this then is the problem. - That for far too long, civilized men have slept soundly in their beds, knowing that rough men are prepared to do violence on their behalf.
	And unfortunately, once they figure out What that is and what that requires.
	Suddenly they want the rough men to stop being violent.
	Unfortunately, the other side doesn't get that message.
	Salute to the Lotus Eaters.
	Is that an Orwell quote?
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	Might be, but... I'm sure civilization exists because rough men stand ready to do violence on our behalf or something.
	I'm sure that's Orwell.
	Not in Orwell, is it?
	I'll have to look it up.
	But it is also true.
	Yeah.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Just a message to say that I'm 26 and I've just bought my first house by myself.
	Three bedroom house, well done me.
	Here's my view after a weekend of figuring out where the garden is.
	Can't wait to bathe all over it and put some artificial grass down and a bar down the end.
	Only joking.
	Well, I'll tell you what, well done.
	It's a lovely looking view you've got.
	Yeah, and you can't beat a real lawn.
	AstroTurf is horrible, isn't it?
	Yeah, having a real lawn, nice.
	Next one.
	I have a hero, Charles Nash.
	He was born in 1864 and immediately orphaned and sold into endangered servitude.
	Long story short, as a child he escaped, found honest work as a farmhand, worked towards and upwards through industry, ending up at the top of the then blossoming General Motors.
	He witnessed the bankers' coup against Durant and quit in disgust, founding Nash Motor Company, one of the most important and influential car companies ever to exist.
	Nash himself died an extraordinarily important, wealthy, and extraordinary man.
	Proof that the American dream was once very real.
	Little wonder you don't hear his name.
	That's a great story.
	I've never even heard of it.
	No, I haven't.
	Let's go to the next one.
	I know with what just happened with Joe Biden suddenly stepping down from the presidential run that people are going to forget about what happened with CrowdStrike this weekend.
	It's a much bigger story.
	The thing about that is it's got a lot of ties with places like WEF, BlackRock, and there's just too much information for me to have gone over.
	But essentially, just keep in mind that Klaus Schwab did say there was going to be a cyber pandemic and it was going to require a COVID-like response.
	Remember that.
	What's interesting is the CrowdStrike stuff didn't affect us at all.
	Yeah.
	The other interesting thing about CrowdStrike is the reason it's so much of a problem is because there is a... If you've got a regulated entity and you use anything other than CrowdStrike, the auditors go to town on you.
	So everybody just uses CrowdStrike in order to avoid the regulatory problems of picking anyone else.
	So it's like they've built in this weakness.
	It's funny how, I mean it's really obvious when you say it, but it's funny how something, if it doesn't affect you directly, you don't care, right?
	Like there's loads and loads of misery and death and violence going on all over the world, but you don't see it, and it didn't happen to anyone you like, or know, so eh, meh.
	And it's like a massive, massive world-spanning global attack that I wasn't having any, I wasn't trying to fly that day.
	Yeah, it didn't corrupt my laptop.
	I didn't see it at all.
	Yeah, it didn't affect me one tiny bit.
	But that's just the way humans are, I suppose, isn't it?
	If it didn't affect you, you didn't actually see it.
	Didn't see any impact of it.
	Did you say there's another video coming, Samson?
	Freddie says, Vance's mum was at the convention.
	He brought his extended family on stage.
	They still look like what we call country, not like Meghan Markle who hid her family after she made it big.
	That's true.
	Freddie says, I don't want to hear the words unfit to rule from the left ever again over Biden.
	Well, I mean, you notice they're like, well, I mean, Trump's too old.
	Oh, shut up.
	You were literally tied down to the oldest and most senile candidate ever.
	I've already seen them try to flip that script, that Kamala's young and vibrant and young and she's young.
	She's 59.
	And Trump's old.
	Trump's way too old.
	He's too old to do anything.
	Yeah.
	Alexander says, it's Jover.
	I don't understand.
	I was sure he was going to get 90 million votes this time at least.
	Yeah.
	And this is the thing, isn't it?
	Like the, the way that they can pivot, I find kind of gross to be honest.
	Like there's no, there's no period of reflection.
	There's no discussion.
	There's no debate.
	They all just, Oh, you know, the new chip has been implanted.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Now we've 100% Kamala.
	It's like, I hate the way they do this.
	You mentioned Mal earlier, exactly that.
	Mal would do this thing where it's saying or doing something specific.
	That was considered rightist, i.e.
	beyond the pale, and you're in real trouble.
	And then a few months later, a year or two later, whatever, it wasn't anymore.
	And then it was again, and everyone was expected to...
	Immediately flip.
	Well, there's a bit in 1984 when they're told there's a speaker in Trafalgar Square giving a speech about being at war with Eurasia.
	Yeah.
	And during the speech, the speaker gets word in his ear that they're now at war with East Asia or the other way around, whatever it is.
	And the speaker, mid-speech, just starts delivering the change in policy without missing a beat.
	It's cliche to say that they're Orwellian in this regard, but they are, genuinely.
	I just can't stand it, to be honest.
	I can't stand it.
	It's Jover, no more Biden his time, says, there is one massive elephant in the room here.
	If Joe Biden isn't fit to run for president, why is he fit to be in office?
	Well, that's the question, isn't it?
	Someone online says, very mysterious that he, asterisk, drops out after an assassination attempt on his opponent fails.
	Rather than during the primary, we could have just acted as a kingmaker and chosen an obvious heir.
	Yes well that's the another again there are just so many like glaring questions about this that it reveals the structure that controls the democrat party.
	Well I've got a really basic one which is do we have any proof of life on Joe Biden?
	Not yet, but I mean, I don't imagine he's dead.
	It's not my base case, but I'm not going to put it at lower than 10%.
	Lars says, I'm not a libertarian who thinks taxation is theft, but excessive inflation is theft.
	Well, I mean, literally it's.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	When I was talking to Godfrey Bloom the other day, another inter... second interview I did with the great man, which should be going out relatively soon.
	We talk about that, how inflation is very much a type of theft.
	100%.
	I think it's funny and interesting when people talk about a timeline.
	We're living on this timeline.
	This happened in our timeline, when people say that.
	I think that's a really interesting, funny way of looking at things.
	Because if tiny little things go the other way, the serendipitous nature of the sliding doors thing of how reality really works.
	Trump's head is two inches another way, everything's different.
	If we lived in a timeline that was one inch to the left, Trump wouldn't be here.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Furious Dan says, Trump is the better man.
	Under his rulership, America was safer and richer.
	His enemies are ridiculous, and what he's endured makes him look like a hero.
	But all Americans must still vote to exceed the margin of shenanigans.
	Yeah, that's another thing.
	I'm worried that the Republicans are going to become complacent.
	Do you remember Trump's campaign in 2020?
	It was booming, absolutely booming.
	And Trump increased his vote share by 15 million votes.
	That's unheard of, right?
	Obama lost 4 million votes when he went for his second term, but Trump increased his by 15 million.
	That's how amazing his campaign was.
	Well, he's going to have to do something similar.
	It's going to have to be just out there pounding the streets and making sure that people are aware that He's the guy.
	And they're going to need to be watching the people counting the votes, and when they say, oh we've got a burst water main, you have to clear out.
	Just, no way, don't take it.
	Yeah, where's the water?
	I was fixed, was it?
	Didn't call out a plumber, did you?
	The craziest thing of all, the biggest lie of all, was that Biden had a handicap of eight.
	No one can believe that, no one can believe it.
	Can't even hit the ball 50 yards.
	He might have eight handicaps, but yeah.
	Binary Surfer says Dan has a point, they covered up the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg for two weeks.
	Did they?
	Did they?
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't put it past them.
	No, I completely believe they did.
	I don't remember that.
	She was on her last legs for ages.
	She definitely disappeared for about two weeks.
	She was knocking on death's door for ages, wasn't she?
	But the point is, why wouldn't they do it again?
	Well, I don't put anything past them.
	I think there's no lie they wouldn't tell to try and maintain the integrity of their narratives.
	I genuinely wouldn't put it past them to use a drone attack to take out Trump's plane or set off a dirty nuke in New York near his building when he's there.
	I don't think there's anything these people won't do.
	It's just a question of whether they decide to do it or not.
	Yeah, and whether they get, like, whether Biden died of natural causes and, like, Alan Partridge or Weekend at Bernie's, they just get his hand to sign his signature.
	I wouldn't put that sort of thing past them.
	Well, I mean, they'll just sign it for him, clearly.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Sure, sure.
	They don't actually try and put a pen in his hand.
	iKitClaw says, Biden was polling so bad in the swing states that he got cooed and replaced with someone polling even worse in the swing states.
	Yeah, there's another great point.
	I just don't know what they're thinking.
	But I mean, I guess a lot of them, after the Trump assassination attempt, a lot of them did, like the Democrat Party insiders were like, well, we've resigned to lose.
	So, if you've resigned to lose, why don't we just sacrifice Kamala Harris?
	Who cares?
	We'll just filter away the donations into various people's pockets and then, you know, we'll see what happens afterwards.
	Kamala is unpopular nationally, if not internationally, but I suspect particularly unpopular in places like Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan.
	Can you even imagine?
	Yeah, no doubt.
	You've got to remember patronage as well.
	So, I mean, they've got 200 million to spend.
	I don't think they're going to spend it legitimately on TV spots.
	What they're going to do is they're going to say to all of their sort of patronage network, how would you like to be a consultant for the election and we pay you 600 grand.
	That's where the money's going to go.
	Yeah.
	Gabriel says, in retrospect, it does seem like this was always a contingency plan in the very early first debate set this in motion.
	I think when in about 10, 15 years, when the general consensus is settled, that Biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in American history.
	No doubt.
	I mean, absolutely.
	It's just catastrophe after catastrophe.
	I tweeted out the other day, what would, if you were Biden, what would you say is the good parts of your own legacy?
	And everyone's like, I don't know.
	And in their own record, in their own letter, it was, well, he reduced the price of prescription drugs for seniors.
	What a big deal!
	You know, he's tripled the cost of their weekly grocery bill.
	It's funny, I think history gets viewed differently.
	Like on a chart, looking at some prices, equities prices or something, the more you scroll out, On the timeline, they're completely different it appears.
	So for example, Buchanan, the president before Lincoln and just before running up to the Civil War, nobody really remembers him.
	He's completely overshadowed by Lincoln one way or another.
	I think maybe Biden will be not remembered.
	A forgettable president.
	I do think Trump's going to be so much of a better president for having four years out to think about things.
	Get out of the daily motion and just stop and think about what he's going to do.
	I think it's going to make him far, far more effective.
	I hope he actually does some draining of that swamp.
	Well, if he's surrounded by people like Vance, Who is not the swamp's pick, then great.
	Fantastic.
	Something really good might actually happen.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, now I really want to watch a Trump-Harris debate.
	I think Trump held back on Biden.
	I don't think he'll hold back on Harris.
	Yeah, I mean, I just don't see how Harris is going to do well on anything, really.
	She's not quick.
	Maybe she's like 100, 110 IQ, but she's certainly not quick.
	No, she's not.
	The gift of the gab.
	Yeah, no, she's the creature of the swamp.
	That's why she has the sort of joker laugh, is to fill the space while she's trying to think of something to say.
	The Proletariat says, after the Civil War, private slavery was outlawed.
	However, the Constitution provides for enslaving people who have been found guilty of a crime, I think that is.
	Harris has been known to withhold exculpatory evidence from innocent people so they can be used as slaves.
	Yes, that's correct.
	But also, doesn't she come from slave-owning lineage?
	I don't know, I'd have to check.
	I think she does.
	Rambam Walk says, regarding Kamala, it's not that Biden has endorsed her, it's because all of the donations were made in both of their names.
	Yeah, entirely possible that they just sat on a huge war chest and were like, well, it has to be her, right?
	Or else, where does this money go?
	So I feel like 200 million, although in any other context is a fantastic amount of money, when it comes to national election, presidential elections in America, it's not that much.
	If they genuinely thought that they had a winning ticket, if they genuinely thought they could win this, they could raise another 200 million, no problem.
	Yeah.
	Ann says Kamala Harris is so disliked that she has a staff turnover rate in her office of a hundred percent.
	To know her or work for her makes one dislike her more.
	Well I can totally believe that.
	Yeah, Kevin's pointing out her description of the Ukraine conflict.
	What I find interesting is that she speaks to people like she's speaking to five-year-olds.
	That description is literally what I'd use to describe to Michael.
	It's because she's genuinely an imbecile.
	I don't think it's an act.
	I don't think she's dumbing it down.
	I don't think she's trying to dodge.
	I think she's just stupid.
	Okay, well Big Ed says Kamala isn't a bad pick for the Democrats.
	When they are aware they are likely to lose, it will prevent any of their preferred candidates in the future to look bad after getting crushed by Trump.
	Yeah, I mean it's entirely possible that she is just a tactical thing to use just to get out of this particular cycle.
	Mason says, the one genius thing that Biden did was select Harris as a VP.
	He managed to find the only politician in America more unlikable than himself, which prevented the coup until the last minute.
	That's not true.
	There are way more politicians in America who are more unlikable than Biden.
	There are loads.
	Just think of, like, almost any Democrat politician.
	They're less likable than Biden.
	Still, fair enough.
	But the overall point they were making is true, that there might be more dislikable people than Kamala.
	But it meant that the coup was put off till the last possible moment.
	100%.
	Whether that's really worth anything in Biden's eyes, I don't know.
	OPHUK says, Kamala blew her way right through that glass ceiling though, and on her knees too, quite something.
	That's a random name, says, also not trying to be pessimistic, I just feel like the likelihood of Trump living to see the end of his second term is low considering all of the fifth columnists within the admin and security staff.
	Well that's the thing, do you see that apparently Biden had granted security for Zelensky but refused it for Trump?
	Yeah.
	Very interesting.
	Bleach Demon says... As an ex-president you get automatically Secret Service detail for the rest of your life but I just suppose the question is what is what quality of Secret Service protection and how many?
	Is it like one intern or something?
	Well we know exactly the quality.
	D.I.
	Woman.
	Anne says, sorry, Bleach Stephen says, Vance is an inspired pick.
	In addition to what Dan covered, but breaks the geographic consideration game, there's been a staple of American VP picks.
	I do like Vance, but I am worried that he doesn't appeal to certain people, certain voting blocs, and that'll be a problem.
	Because, I mean, like, you know, I feel represented, you know, a necklace of representation.
	But, you know, like, Trump needs to do really well with white women.
	How does Vance appeal to white women?
	So this is not my opinion, but this is the opinion of a woman that I read on Twitter before coming on, and she said, never underestimate how retarded female voters are.
	I agree.
	But the point being, is Vance the guy they're like, oh yeah, OK, I'm going to vote for him?
	Probably not.
	Well one thing I'll say, although that's a valid point and I'm not disagreeing with it at all, a lot of people vote for whoever's at the top of the ticket, really.
	The VP is important, I'm not saying it's not important, plays a big role, but it's really the top person.
	It's the top of the ticket that nearly everyone's really voting for.
	And Trump's Trump, isn't he?
	He's the Donald, you know what you're getting.
	Yeah, and I mean, on the plus side at least, Trump has such an outsized media presence that Vance is probably going to be much less of an influence on people's decisions.
	Nobody outshines the Donald.
	That is true.
	At this point, certainly at this point.
	Screwtape Lasers says, Van Jones's transformation from black militant environmentalist to literal crybaby has been fun.
	Yeah, I mean, I like people like Van Jones, because it's kind of like the id of the Democrat Party.
	They go on CNN and they're like, oh yeah, we're all crying here, this is terrible.
	So no, that's good, because a more savvy political operator wouldn't reveal that.
	To the enemy, you know, but he feels like he's in a safe place at CNN.
	You know, they're all like all safe and sensitive.
	And so he can just come out and tell us what's in the beating heart of the black beating heart of the cruel and dying Democrat Party.
	Black with a small B. Yeah, yeah, obviously.
	But black to mean evil, not skin colour.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	And Tuomas says, I'm just reminded by Trump's older brother who died of a heart attack which was probably caused by alcoholism.
	So with that in mind, Vance might be more relatable to Trump than Pence ever was.
	Yeah, I mean, Pence seemed to be the sort of person who probably wouldn't have gone to bed with a prostitute.
	No, I don't think Pence would.
	Pence was always a bit of a non-entity, or is that just me?
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	After four years of him being VP, I didn't still really know... Yeah, what was the point of Pence?
	Yeah, I didn't really know the guy, I didn't really know what he stood for.
	I've watched him make a couple of speeches, so I've watched 10, 20, 30 minutes worth of him speak and it's just like... Well, that's why I like this Vance thing more, I think about it, because Pence was hired because he could appeal to sort of the Christian old stock of the GOP that Trump had a less secure hold over.
	Whereas Vance appeals to all the same people who already like Trump.
	You know, he's picking him because he thinks that he can do something with him.
	Yeah, but I am concerned that that's not expanding the potential range of voters.
	Yeah.
	So the safe pick would have been to have picked a woman.
	Yeah.
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