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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #956

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 15th of July 2020.
	This is podcast number 956, coming up to that 1000 slowly.
	I am with Bo and Carl who is back from America and I have some announcements to make.
	Thank you very much to Chris Williamson for sending us in some of his new tonic.
	He doesn't pay us to do this, he's just nicely sending them in and you know, he's a friend of the show.
	And I won't endorse anything unless I genuinely believe it and they're lovely, that one particularly.
	It's really, really delicious.
	So we're not being paid to say it, but we're just trying to be nice.
	So if you want some energy drinks that are supposedly more good for you, I don't know anything about it, think about those.
	And also, we're carrying on with the Rumble Rant thing, so if you want to send Rumble Rants and have them read out at the end of the segment rather than when we read out the comments, then do so, please.
	But anyway.
	I suppose we may as well address the elephant in the room and that is the Trump assassination.
	So there are a few events that will go down in the history books I think regarding American politics.
	There's the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, the 2008 financial crisis, the election of Donald Trump in 2016, the Covid pandemic and the lockdowns of 2020 onwards, and then there was the 13th of July 2024 when
	Former President Donald Trump was giving a speech in Butler, Pennsylvania, or at least near it, and then an assassin tried to kill him and he got away with his life by the skin of his ear, I suppose you could say.
	And I'm going to play the full video.
	This is coverage from NTD I believe.
	Supposedly this is the best you can find and it's certainly the best I've been able to find of what actually happened.
	So I'm going to play it and then we're going to talk about all of the important details.
	If you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened.
	I'm going to go.
	I'm going to go.
	I'm going to go.
	I'm going to go.
	Basically, he gets bundled off into a car, and that's the end of it, taken to safety.
	And for the MAGA hat, I think.
	Well, I think everyone's probably seen this already.
	It's safe to say that that was one of the most amazing pieces of video footage I've ever seen.
	That was absolutely epic.
	Trump has no idea what's going on, gets shot, gets back up, and just puts his fist up.
	He doesn't know he's not still in danger.
	He doesn't know what's happened to the shooter.
	He doesn't know he's not going to catch another bullet, you know, but that is so good.
	Yeah, really good.
	I looked through a few sort of historic moments, like 9-11, and quite often it's not a moment, like you say, you mentioned one of them as the Covid thing.
	That wasn't really one moment, was it?
	No.
	But like seeing those planes fly into the World Trade Centre, it's like a moment, or seeing them collapse.
	Yeah, this is like a moment in time, which is certainly historic, isn't it?
	And I was saying just before we started, obviously, it's one of the most obvious things to say about it, how close it was.
	to just uh being another bit of jfk snuff footage like he's seen his head blow up basically here's a picture that i've seen doing the rounds of supposedly capturing the bullet in motion perhaps the one that actually grazed his ear and um seems a bit low for the top of his ear there but it it does yeah but it's maybe it's just another one that went past perhaps yeah but But it's amazing that we actually have this picture of a live round being fired towards a presidential candidate.
	Former president.
	And former president, yes.
	And of course there was this iconic photo.
	Husband and father, let's not forget.
	That's true.
	So there is this iconic photo that was taken and I couldn't think of anything better for his presidential campaign than this.
	To epitomise his strength as a leader while he's bloodied with his cyst in the air with the American flag flying behind him whilst he's being escorted away by the Secret Service.
	What an image that is.
	It is THE photo isn't it?
	It is, yeah.
	A couple of things to say about that.
	The blue sky in the background, sort of picture perfect.
	And the way it's, it's almost like a composition, a proper painting composition where it's got the triangle thing going on.
	It drags your eye to the center.
	And of course it's reminiscent, incredibly somehow, the very, very famous image of the Marines on Iwo Jima, raising the flag at the top of the mountain on Iwo Jima.
	It's, yeah, it's sort of iconic, isn't it?
	Immediately iconic.
	Seems broadly representative of the state of the Republic at the moment.
	I actually saw the photographer when the shots were being taken run across the firing line to get to that position to take the photo.
	So it's very impressive work from them as well.
	And of course the media have picked up on this being the cover of Time magazine.
	Obvious pick really and lots and lots of media outlets have chose this picture because of course they would.
	It's one of the most iconic pictures I've ever seen.
	Can we just talk about the event itself for a second?
	I mean this is so lucky that Trump escaped with just part of his ear shot off.
	Yeah, you can see the greys in that image there, can't you?
	It's very minor, but as we'll be talking about later, he did get very, very lucky.
	Half an inch.
	To sort of foreshadow that.
	If he wasn't looking at this picture, funny enough, of a legal migration that's like a graph, if he didn't have to look at that graph, if he'd somehow memorized it and didn't turn his head ever so slightly, then that would have hit him in the head and it would have killed him.
	Simple as that.
	And so if he didn't turn his head ever so slightly, it would be over.
	Which, you know, I can certainly understand why people saying that there was some sort of divine protection or he's got the mandate of heaven.
	Because you can see that, right?
	The sheer amount of luck that has to be involved for him to be grazed in that way and not be seriously harmed is massive.
	It's mad.
	So here is the New York Post and they've got a very helpful graphic of where Trump was on stage, that lower red box there and then you've got the Secret Service agent that shot the shooter and then the shooter there around, I've seen 130 yards, 150 yards, something in that ballpark.
	So not far then.
	No, not really, and we'll be talking about that because we have a lot of reason to believe that the shooter didn't necessarily know what he was doing, which is interesting.
	In terms of handling a rifle, you mean?
	Yes.
	As you say, he knew who was shooting the crumb, right?
	Well, he didn't get there by accident.
	This gives the best lay of the land I've been able to see.
	I've scoured everywhere, looked at all sorts of different satellite imagery, and this is easily the best angle to see it.
	But you can see that not only does that rooftop have a pretty good angle on Trump there, but also the Secret Service agents had a very good angle on the shooter there, the sort of lip of that rooftop.
	And so we'll be talking a lot about that.
	But what I wanted to talk about as well is that Donald Trump, after the shooting, did give comments to the New York Post.
	I'll be reading some of them.
	He says, the doctor at the hospital said he never saw anything like this.
	He called it a miracle.
	I'm not supposed to be here.
	I'm supposed to be dead.
	And he's on the Secret Service, who took out the shooter, said they took him out with one shot right between the eyes.
	They did a fantastic job.
	And on the iconic picture that's doing the rounds he says, a lot of people say it's the most iconic photo they've ever seen.
	They're right and I didn't die.
	Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.
	You can hear his speech patterns even in his quotes there.
	Trump has not been changed by this.
	Not one bit.
	By luck or by God, many people are saying it, by God, I'm still here.
	Still got the same Trumpism.
	As a shot, the guy that did it, he was a loser.
	Worst shot.
	Superb.
	So it is worth mentioning a lot of the shots did miss Donald Trump and hit the crowd behind and this is obviously a real tragedy because it not only injured two attendees but killed another and a gentleman by the name of Corey Comperatore, I believe,
	And I wanted to have a look at this gentleman because it is a really quite tragic story that I'm probably going to find quite difficult to read because here he is celebrating his 50th birthday and I believe, is this his daughter writing a message or a family member?
	Okay, so I'm going to read this in full and it says, this is from Alison, Yesterday time stopped and when it started again my family and I started living a real-life nightmare.
	What was supposed to be an exciting day that we had all looked forward to, especially my dad, turned into the most traumatizing experience someone could imagine.
	I know the media will cover this event and I'm going to try my best to stay away from looking at everything, especially because I've already seen and lived through it in real time.
	But I want everyone to know what the media will not cover and will not say about him.
	He was the best dad a girl could ask for.
	My sister and I never needed for anything.
	You call, he would answer.
	He would do whatever it is you needed, and if he didn't know how, he would figure out how.
	He could talk and make friends with anyone, which he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it.
	He was a man of God, loved Jesus fiercely, and also looked after our church and our members as family.
	The media will not tell you that he died a real-life superhero.
	They're not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mum and I to the ground.
	They're not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us.
	He loved his family.
	He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us.
	I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him thank you.
	I want nothing more than to wake up and for this not to be a reality for me and my family.
	We lost a selfless, loving husband, father, brother, And where were we?
	Okay.
	And I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that I die too.
	July 13th will forever be a day that changed my life.
	I'll never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago.
	There are a lot of children out there that say their dad is a hero, but my dad really is mine.
	I don't think I would be here today without him.
	Dad, I love you so much, but there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes.
	I know you'll give heaven some hell.
	I know that God is proud of the man that came to his gates yesterday.
	Oh, that was a difficult read.
	Yeah.
	It's just very interesting to me.
	Carl Rittenhouse can fire into a bloody gang of Antifa and hit a paedophile, a wife beater and a felon.
	But someone fires into a Trump crowd and they hit family men.
	Yeah.
	I think Destiny just flatly said fuck him as well.
	Who cares?
	Yeah, that shows the bitterness of people, doesn't it?
	But there is a fundraiser for the victims' families, and this is endorsed by President, former President Trump himself, and it has already reached 3.6 million, but, and I know that money can't exactly bring those people back, that person back, but... The Heritage Foundation donated $50,000.
	We do have it linked in the reading list on our website and if you want to find it you need to go to our website and it'll be down below underneath the videos if you want to donate some money.
	I fully support those who do because it's certainly not going to bring back him but it will help the families to some extent.
	But anyway, now I've got that said, I suppose we may as well talk about the shooter.
	And here he is.
	This is Thomas Matthew Crooks.
	He's 20 years old, or was, and he graduated recently, two months ago, with an associate degree in engineering science.
	And he worked as a dietary aid in a local nursing home.
	He had no criminal record, no history of mental health issues.
	No history of military service either, and just some tidbits of information here, this is what's being circulated.
	He wasn't allowed on the school shooting team because he was such a bad shot, and that's what has been reported.
	Apparently, according to some of his classmates, he wore hunting clothes to school though, and apparently he was bullied almost every day.
	You can see why.
	Yeah.
	It's quite a full mutant physiognomy, isn't it?
	So his politics, he was a registered Republican, which is a bit confusing, and had only voted in the 2022 midterms because of his age.
	He donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project via ActBlue at the age of 17, and this donation came through the same day that Joe Biden was sworn into office.
	Apparently his high school classmates knew him as a conservative when the topic of politics came up.
	And his parents were registered as Democrats and Libertarian and both of his parents were also licensed counselors or I've also seen social workers so one of the two.
	So he had a pretty comfortable middle-class existence as you can imagine and there's not really been any clear motive as of yet as to why he's done this.
	What a confusing series of data points.
	I know, yeah.
	They all make sense other than that he was registered Republican, but then that could be explained that it's deliberate so you get to vote in the primary and screw with the Republicans.
	Other than that, if we, let's say, assume that, then it does sort of all make sense.
	It's just full-blown lefties.
	You say libertarian, but there's a left type of libertarian as well, aren't there?
	Well yeah, also he doesn't necessarily have to inherit the politics of his parents.
	No, true.
	Well he did say his friends described him as conservative, but then you could be a Nikki Haley type conservative that also hates Trump.
	He obviously, he said there's no motive, but obviously he despised Trump.
	Well, that much is clear enough.
	Yeah, I thought that much was obvious.
	We don't need many, many layers to this thing, really.
	I doubt he had a very rich emotional life, right?
	Well, I imagine that at some point loads of stuff is going to come out about his social media history or various other things he said to people, which don't have the information yet.
	Well, the actual assassination attempt itself, the Feds say that he used an AR-15 style rifle that was owned by his father.
	There was only a five mile per hour westerly wind and if we cut to this, this is the sort of... There's almost no real wind?
	Yes.
	That means there's almost no wind?
	Yeah, you pretty much don't need to account for it.
	I've not necessarily shot An AR-15 at that distance has been more like, you know, 50 yards if anything.
	But then, you know, I'm English, forgive me.
	But yeah, it shouldn't necessarily be a difficult shot from what a lot of people who go shooting regularly say.
	And so one can presume that the accounts of him not being a very good shot are probably accurate based on this because he got off a few shots before the Secret Service finally shot him.
	So it's worth mentioning as well that he also had explosive devices found in his car and his home.
	That's news to me, I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	It's weird.
	It's like at the January 6th thing where they found pipe bombs at the Democrat and Republican headquarters and then that just disappeared.
	So this is, by the way, according to an anonymous source that spoke to the Wall Street Journal, and they're the origin of this.
	So we'll have to see.
	If it's true, then... I've just got a picture of a full-blown psychopath.
	Full-blown nutter.
	Well, psychopaths don't just choose to kill a president, necessarily.
	They're self-interested, aren't they?
	They might be narcissistic.
	They might do it for the sort of reason of wanting fame.
	If he's bullied at school, you could see that angle.
	There's many different shades of psychopathy.
	Many, many different ones.
	That's true.
	But let's talk a little bit about the Secret Service response, because there's obviously an ongoing investigation by the FBI, and there's been a lot of criticism of the response from the Secret Service.
	Here's both Jack Posobiec and Elon Musk.
	Jack says, how is a sniper with a full rifle kit allowed to bear crawl onto the closest roof to a presidential nominee?
	Elon Musk has extreme incompetence or it was deliberate.
	Either way, the Secret Service leadership must resign.
	And I've seen echoes of this pretty much everywhere.
	Well, that's the question, isn't it?
	I assume you're going to get to the people who are pointing.
	Hey, there's a guy with a gun up on the roof.
	Absolutely.
	OK, I'll leave it there.
	I mean it's just phenomenal that this was possible.
	It's near inexcusable really.
	Oh it's totally inexcusable.
	Like, Trump got shot because of this incompetence.
	And again, that I think is the charitable interpretation.
	It is, yes.
	So, this is the director of the Secret Service, and she is called Kimberly A. Cheetle, and she was a Biden appointee, which... Interesting.
	Perhaps a conflict of interests, maybe.
	Slight bias.
	Of course, the immense threat level, as said here, was known to pretty much everyone.
	Everyone knew that tempers were high, that, you know, if you lit a match, everything would go up.
	Ever since Trump got nominated in 2016, people talk about, oh, he's going to get taken out.
	I made a video in 2017 about it.
	It's entirely possible this would happen.
	And the thing is that Trump was requesting greater Secret Service protection for quite some time, and it's being denied.
	A Biden appointee to the head of... Yeah, it seems rather convenient, doesn't it?
	And not only that, there's been some speculation that resources were diverted to a Jill Biden speech, as opposed to Trump.
	And I don't think many people are gunning for Jill Biden, necessarily, so I don't really understand the rationale here.
	But it seems like there's some partisanship here in the decision making, to say the least.
	Just to touch on, sorry just super quick to touch on, I might talk about it more in my third segment, but in 1963 when JFK was killed, there's loads and loads and loads of evidence and suspicious facts about what the Secret Service didn't do that day.
	Loads.
	And who made those calls?
	And exactly why?
	Same with the January 6th thing.
	Who made the call not to bring in the National Guard?
	Who made the call to essentially Allow them into the capital.
	Things like this.
	Lots of strange calls have been made.
	And the problem is the institutions are hardly what we could consider to be neutral or responsible agents at this point.
	We know their staffs with partisans.
	We know they have partisan agendas.
	We know they can't really keep it a secret.
	So I have trouble believing or giving people the benefit of the doubt.
	Sorry, just another thing, the explosives in his car or whatever, it's like, okay, if the FBI didn't have a history of setting this sort of stuff up, I would be less suspicious.
	But I mean, there's the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there's the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping and things like this, where they've just been directly involved, directly involved with this.
	The Las Vegas shooting.
	Well, do we have proof of that yet?
	That's the thing.
	Like the two I've just mentioned, I can definitely prove.
	But it wouldn't surprise me, right, that there are strange and untoward agents behind the scenes on this.
	I haven't got any proof of it, but my gut is telling me, well, this is very strange, isn't it?
	So.
	Yeah, I think that there's certainly reason to be suspicious of this and not take a lot of the information at face value because there are a lot of things at play here.
	Especially given the strange behavior of the Secret Service.
	Sorry, I'll let you carry on.
	So, Charlie Kirk here talks about a source telling NBC News that the roof that the shooter was on was well-known and a high-priority vulnerability identified the day before by a security walk, and they confirmed that a counter-sniper did not need approval to shoot.
	And that by looking for approval they did not follow prior protocol.
	Right.
	And I can play this if you want but it's on NBC so you can go to it there if you want to see it.
	So we also have this here.
	This is the actual sniper here taking a shot.
	And you know, that's a little bit old, that shot, that shot's a couple of those old.
	You'll hear the shots ring out, and then you'll see him later on, eventually in his combat.
	Yeah, that's very, very strange.
	I mean, what were they doing?
	Giving the kid on the roof with the gun the benefit of the doubt?
	Why would they be waiting for him to shoot?
	I've seen it circulating online.
	I've not necessarily been able to confirm, as with much of these details, that it was around two minutes after people started noticing a person on the roof.
	I don't know whether this was just people in the crowd and there was miscommunication or this was actually Secret Service agents.
	We need to get a bit more information yet before we are able to figure that one out.
	But it was known to people there that, at least two minutes before the shooting started, that there was someone on the roof.
	With a gun.
	Yes, exactly.
	There was just someone chilling on the roof, smoking a deal.
	And also, you know, this guy had a rifle.
	It was obvious he had a rifle.
	People were pointing this out.
	Why didn't the Secret Service get Trump off of the stage immediately?
	Yeah, I think that is the key question here, is that they knew there was someone there and they let Trump carry on with his speech for far longer than he needed to.
	They could have pulled him off stage as soon as they knew.
	Yeah, well I mean the sniper, okay there's a guy on the roof, okay I'm just gonna wait for him to start shooting.
	Why?
	What's the point of your job if it's not to neutralise the threat before it actually takes action?
	I'd say it's probably, well certainly if you're looking at him through a scope from 130 metres, is it yards or metres away?
	It's 130 yards.
	Yards!
	So not very far at all.
	Probably about 100 metres.
	And if you're looking at him through a scope and it's your job, you say, oh it's not a hero sandwich the guy's holding, he's got a gun and he's pointing it towards the candidate.
	He's got a gun, it's trained on Trump and he's lining up a shot.
	Let's see where he goes with this.
	What are you doing?
	It's hard to believe that's not conscious and deliberate.
	There's some talk that maybe they're waiting for an order.
	Yes.
	But the protocol is you don't need to wait for an order.
	Why would you need to wait for an order?
	That's the whole point of having this type of protection.
	There's a guy on the rooftop with a gun, well I'm going to have to see what my commander says.
	No, what is your job?
	Anyway.
	It seems strange doesn't it?
	So this guy says, I was a sniper, employment officer for my battalion and led hundreds of combat missions there.
	Major security lapses in the security plan that allowed a shooter to engage President Trump from around 130 meters.
	An easy shot, he says.
	And there he is showing the shot again.
	So there are lots of people, as I said, that are suggesting that, yeah, this was an easy shot.
	This shouldn't have been allowed to happen.
	I mean, this is a great thread where he just details how this shouldn't have happened.
	Yeah.
	I think that there are lots of people saying much the same thing.
	I'm probably not qualified to talk about it.
	130 metres, so still not very far in terms of rifle shooting.
	Yeah, not with a scoped sniper rifle.
	I think we should be fine.
	So let's have a look at some of the videos here.
	This video is quite stark in the failures of the Secret Service here.
	Look, there he is.
	Very obvious to anyone, even at ground level, where he is from.
	This is after the shooting, of course.
	But there were other videos where they were pointing him out.
	Yeah, well, I've got that too.
	So here's a guy talking about pointing him out to the Secret Service, then we'll actually go to the... On the BBC, nonetheless.
	On the BBC, they're actually doing some real journalism, yeah.
	So we're going to listen to this for about two minutes, but it's worth it, I think.
	Yeah, Karl, we've been talking to a number of people as they've been coming out of this horrific event.
	A lot of people very emotional, a lot of people very upset, as you can imagine.
	A lot of people very, very frightened.
	Greg was someone who was here.
	You weren't inside the event, but you were just outside.
	Tell us what you saw.
	So we had a party here all day.
	You can see behind us at the Brinkels Farm and Greenhouse here.
	We had a party.
	And we all decided, hey, you know, when we hear Trump up there, we're going to walk up through the field, stand by the trees up there under the shade, and listen to the rally, right?
	We couldn't see him, but we could hear him.
	So we walked up and probably five to seven minutes of Trump speaking, I'm estimating here, I have no idea, you know, but we noticed a guy crawling Army, you know, bear crawling up the roof of the building beside us, 50, 50 feet away from us.
	So we're standing there, you know, we're pointing, we're pointing at the guy crawling up the roof and he had a gun, right?
	He had a rifle.
	We could clearly see him with a rifle.
	Absolutely.
	Um, we're pointing at him.
	The police are down there running around on the ground.
	We're like, Hey man, there's guy on the roof with a rifle.
	And the police were like, huh?
	What?
	You know, like, Like, they didn't know what was going on.
	You know, we're like, hey, right here on the roof, we can see him from right here.
	We see him.
	You know, he's crawling.
	And next thing you know, I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, why is Trump still speaking?
	Why have they not pulled him off the stage?
	I'm standing there pointing at him for, you know, two, three minutes.
	Secret Service is looking at us from the top of the barn.
	I'm pointing at that roof, just standing there like this.
	And next thing you know, five shots ring out.
	So you're certain that the shots came from that guy on the roof?
	100%.
	100%.
	And he was up there for a couple of minutes?
	He was up there.
	You saw him up there for a couple of minutes?
	Absolutely.
	At least three to four minutes.
	And you were telling police in the secret service?
	We were telling the police, we were pointing at him for the Secret Service, who were looking at us from the top of the barn.
	They were looking at us the whole time we were standing by that tree.
	Could they see him?
	Binoculars.
	Could they see him?
	Probably not, because the roof, the way the slope went, he was behind where they could see.
	But why is there not Secret Service on all of these roofs here?
	I mean, this is not a big place.
	Did you see, I mean, obviously everyone, when the shooting started, everyone was very panicked.
	Did you see what happened to him at all?
	Oh, yeah, they blew his head off.
	Okay, sorry.
	Secret Service blew his head off.
	Okay, just be careful because we don't know quite who's...
	But that is very interesting, isn't it, what he was saying?
	Can I just mention, I don't think there's any doubt about that guy's eyewitness testimony.
	But he, of course, to me anyway, comes across as the cadence and the tone and intonation of what he's saying.
	It's just an absolute telling the truth Yeah, there's no reason to doubt him.
	No, not that there's any real reason to doubt it, but you know what it's like when eyewitness testimony can be very unreliable.
	Three different people see the same thing and disagree on what they actually saw.
	But he comes across as sort of a perfect witness, it seems to me.
	He's not the only one.
	There have been a few.
	He's corroborated and you can sort of piece together that his story's correct based on the circumstantial evidence.
	But no, you're right.
	His sort of manner of speech to indicate that he's being very genuine.
	You know, I've covered a lot of eyewitness testimony and looked at a lot of the research and you're spot on.
	So there's also this as well and this one is quite unbelievable really.
	Sorry about the video.
	It's the best I could find.
	It's the best I could find.
	Look, they're all pointing.
	Yeah, they made the Pacific.
	Yeah, someone's on top of the roof.
	Look.
	There he is right there.
	Right there.
	See him?
	He's laying down.
	See him?
	Yeah, he's laying down.
	What's happening?
	Yeah, look.
	- What's happening?
	- And the first you ever take back the last... - Because if we do, we're gonna make America better than our people.
	We're gonna make it.
	- Yeah, look.
	There he is.
	- Because we have millions and millions of people in our country that shouldn't be here.
	Dangerous people.
	Criminals!
	He's on the roof!
	He's right here!
	Right here!
	Right on the roof!
	He's getting up now.
	- Right here, right on the roof. - She's tearing up now.
	- She went right on the roof, we got. - And by that point, he wasn't even in a shooting position, was he?
	And they're already flagging him down before he's got to the sort of lip of the top of the roof.
	Yeah.
	And they were saying, Officer, he's up there.
	And you presume that they're not even raising their voices that loudly.
	So you presume the officers were relatively close, which would mean they'd probably be able to see him as well.
	Yeah.
	Potentially.
	This is a monumental failure of the security services.
	Absolutely.
	There's this idea for example that, again in the JFK thing, every single, it would just be normal, it would just be normal protocol that every single window or every single sort of potential sniper's nest or anything is covered off, is taken into account at least.
	So yeah, it is incompetence to the point of being suspicious.
	It is to me anyway.
	It's totally suspicious.
	Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree.
	Anyway, we're running low on time.
	We are.
	So the final thing I'm going to touch on is that they've said that he acted alone, but the Secret Service, according to Fox News at least, have not been able to get into his phone.
	The official is telling Fox they believe the shooter acted alone.
	We're also learning that they can't get into his cell phone.
	They have it at Quantico, but haven't been able to get any data out of it.
	Yeah, OK.
	So they can potentially spy on Tucker Carlson, according to Tucker Carlson himself, and they can't get into a potential presidential assassin's phone.
	Seems a bit strange to me.
	I think the NSA or whoever can get into any phone they want.
	Yeah, I don't doubt it.
	So this all seems rather suspicious to me, but I think that Obviously, there's going to be a lot of investigation into this.
	I think that lots of people looking for answers.
	I think that this is something that didn't need to happen.
	I think that the failures from the security service allowed this to happen and certainly are suspicious.
	Although Trump credits them for saving his life, I think that there are many questions to be answered here.
	I'll just go through some of the rumble rants.
	Sean says, due unto others, Trump should use a GOP-friendly state like Florida and sue the mainstream media and reporters for inciting violence.
	Have a GOP-friendly judge issue gag orders justice.
	That's a difficult thing to do in the United States, so I'm not surprised he's not pursuing that.
	Neon Realist says, voters must channel Liana Mormont in November and say, we know no king but the King of the North.
	I don't know who she is.
	That's Game of Thrones.
	Yes it is, yeah.
	Sean again says this was a setup with deep state and DI fingerprints all over it.
	I mean, it is suspicious.
	Akrol says, Carl, thanks for the discussion of the Timcast after show.
	Can you describe where you were when you heard about the assassination attempt and what was happening around you?
	Well, I just literally just landed from a plane from Washington to Dublin.
	I got my phone out and I had like a million messages being Trump shot, Trump shot.
	And I was like, Jesus Christ.
	It's like five in the morning.
	So I'd been like for eight hours.
	I've been completely off the grid because I was on this plane.
	So, you know, I didn't expect anything exciting to have happened.
	Neon Realist again says Trump went from merely a famous American to a mythical figure.
	In a way, yeah.
	I mean, that was genuinely a heroic reaction from Trump, which I think shows that he is a leader and not a bureaucrat.
	It's impossible to think that Biden or Sunak or Trudeau or Macron would have had that kind of reaction.
	Well half a dozen secret service agents jumping on Joe Biden will shatter him like glass.
	Well yeah that's true.
	Matt says Democrat mega-donor and LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman proposed the attempt on Trump's life was staged.
	I'm thinking the families of a billion dollar lawsuit like the one against Alex Jones.
	Yeah well the problem with that is The law only cuts one way when it comes to this sort of thing.
	They're deliberately trying to destroy Alex.
	It's not about justice.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Everyone has underestimated how the MSM have successfully brainwashed the American left.
	TDS has been successfully weaponized.
	This is MKUltraLevelsS.
	Well, this is the thing.
	I don't want to get into conspiracies, but there are a lot of questions about this.
	And Sean says, by the way, Trump was hit twice, once in the ear and once in his chest.
	The armored vest stopped the one on the chest.
	Not joking, look it up.
	I actually haven't seen that.
	I've seen a picture of a bullet hole, but I've not seen any reports elsewhere.
	And so I chose not to include it, but it is possible I did see it.
	Right, okay.
	Right, well let's move on then.
	So I thought what we would do is just run through the reactions to the attempted assassination on President Trump.
	Because there have been a lot, and lots of people have made lots of interesting statements about this, which I think finally the mask has had to come off.
	So, I mean, I'm genuinely impressed with the way Trump handled this.
	He seems to be able to turn every attack on him into a win, which is superb, and this is a fantastic example, right?
	So, not long after Obama comes out and says, well, you know, we should be relieved that former President Trump wasn't seriously hurt, and uses this moment to recommit Interesting.
	And so Obama represents sort of like the mainstream Democrat opinion.
	I've seen lots of mainstream Democrats echoing this sentiment.
	And correctly, this is the right thing to say.
	This is what should be said.
	Even AOC says, well, my heart goes out to all the victims and I wish the former president a speedy recovery.
	Interesting.
	Again, that's the sort of radical left caucus of the Democrat Party, knowing that they should be on message on this.
	Because again, this is the correct thing to say.
	There is simply no alternative.
	Even Joe Biden came out and gave actually quite a sensible speech, which I thought we'd watch.
	Last night, I spoke with Donald Trump.
	I'm sincerely grateful that he's doing well and recovering.
	We had a short but good conversation.
	Jill and I are keeping him and his family in our prayers.
	We also extend our deepest condolences to the family of the victim who was killed.
	He was a father.
	He was protecting his family from the bullets that were being fired.
	And he lost his life.
	God love him.
	We're also praying for the full recovery of those who were injured.
	And we're grateful to the Secret Service agents and other law enforcement agencies and individuals who risked their lives literally for our nation.
	So you can see the tone and tenor.
	I'm glad Donald Trump's safe.
	Praying for a swift recovery.
	Sorry to hear about the victims.
	Okay, that's interesting.
	That's very interesting.
	Because it doesn't really gel up with the way that Joe Biden talks about Donald Trump, right?
	And this is the thing that really annoys me.
	So, for example, Donald Trump is a genuine threat to this nation.
	He is a threat to our freedom.
	He is a threat to our democracy.
	He is literally a threat to everything America stands for.
	Right.
	So three weeks ago you were saying that.
	Some guy tries to assassinate Donald Trump.
	You're like, well, OK, I am wishing for a speedy recovery.
	Sorry, Joe.
	Sorry.
	Is he a threat to the nation or not?
	Are you wishing the threat to the nation a swift recovery?
	I mean, you literally, literally said that he is a dictator, right?
	Joe, this is not a congruent message, right?
	There is a contradiction here.
	You are either telling people that he is a threat to the nation and a dictator.
	I mean, you remember the red speech that he gave where he literally says that Donald Trump and MAGA... Too much of what's happening in our country today is not normal.
	Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
	But I'm glad he recovered, okay?
	Well, for those who aren't paying attention, it's a mask-off moment about how empty that rhetoric is.
	It's obviously cynical to try and exaggerate the threat, if you can even say that.
	Exactly.
	Is Donald Trump the new mega-Hitler?
	Or do we wish him a speedy recovery?
	Because these things are not compatible.
	He is either the greatest threat to the republic and a dictator.
	I mean, look at this statement.
	What is not justified by that?
	If Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of the country, Well then, that puts you on the side of, the guy did the right thing to try and assassinate him.
	That's what that rhetoric does.
	There is a whiff of the Beckett Affair, isn't there?
	Someone's Beckett Affair when Henry II said, who will rid me of this troublesome monk?
	Although he never actually said that apparently.
	Anyway, and people took that as, go out and kill him.
	And they did.
	Why wouldn't you?
	Yeah, he didn't have to explicitly say kill this man for me.
	Exactly.
	You can just call him a dictator.
	You can call him a danger to the country.
	You can call him a threat to the soul of the nation and a threat to everything America stands for.
	The message is clear.
	Someone is going to pick that up and who knows, right?
	So this really crystallized because the other day apparently he was on a phone call and it was reported by the press that he said it's time to put Trump in a bullseye.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	I'm sure he means rhetorically.
	Yeah, he didn't add metaphorically speaking or in Minecraft or anything.
	He just put him in a bullseye.
	But he hasn't with any of the other statements either.
	Like these are the most extreme statements.
	I mean, I don't know what he could say more to further demonize Donald Trump and MAGA.
	I mean, what else would you say?
	What's worse than what he's saying?
	Right.
	So I really do despise this The way that Joe Biden has been treating Donald Trump, and the way that he's suddenly come out and gone, well, I'm praying for a swift recovery.
	Okay, you're a liar.
	You're a liar.
	You're a liar.
	Everything about this was a lie.
	This is now where you're on message being like, oh yeah, obviously we don't want our political opponents killed, even though they're evil mega Nazis.
	Hypocrisy now.
	It's not even hypocrisy.
	It's just total lies.
	You know, I'm sick of it.
	And obviously he has a good gaffe here.
	I mean, obviously he does.
	In America, we resolve our differences at the battle box.
	You know, that's how we do it.
	At the battle box.
	Not the ballot box, Joe.
	Didn't they want to do another take?
	It looks like they could do another take there, but no, no, we got it.
	We got it.
	Yeah, that's close enough, Joe.
	Great Freudian slip there, wasn't it?
	So you can see that the demonization of Trump has come from the top, the very top, and it's the most hardline demonization you could think of.
	And I thought, OK, well, let's go to the next one, then let's have a look at the media.
	How have the media been talking about Donald Trump?
	Well, they've been talking about him in terms that, again, would justify an assassination attempt.
	But his rhetoric is really getting dangerous, more and more dangerous.
	And we saw what happened on January 6th when he uses inflammatory rhetoric now.
	And his recent True Social post is incredibly, incredibly scary for anyone that might be trying to work in government.
	And it is just unquestionable at this point that that man cannot see public office again.
	He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated.
	Jesus nodded.
	Jen Psaki's just nodding along there, former press secretary.
	Are you mad?
	This kind of rhetoric is insane.
	Eliminates you.
	This kind of rhetoric is mental.
	It's also that typical Democrat thing of...
	Projection, right?
	They accuse you of exactly the same thing that they do, talking about inflammatory rhetoric, and they're trying to make out this stuff.
	Sure.
	But then you get any amount of media, well, American fascism, Donald Trump is Hitler.
	Yes, it's okay to compare Trump to Hitler.
	Okay, well then, Adolf Hitler being the demon of the 20th century Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.
	He needs to be eliminated.
	He's a threat to the soul of the nation.
	What message are you projecting?
	It's okay to assassinate Donald Trump.
	That's what's being said.
	And I think they genuinely want this.
	I'm of the opinion that they were genuinely hoping that this would happen.
	And I don't care that this whole, like, oh, I'm so glad.
	I hope he recovers.
	No, you wanted him dead.
	You wanted him dead.
	You wanted him dead.
	You still do.
	They still do.
	Yeah.
	They've been demonizing him since he decided to run.
	And it was honestly the demonization, which is why I, in 2017, I went to Trump Tower in New York and bought this MAGA hat.
	And I was like, nah, nah, screw these people.
	I hate these people.
	They can get effed.
	You know, 100%.
	The weirdest thing about stating the obvious is he's already been president for four years and didn't act as a dictator.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like De Niro going, he will never leave.
	Well, he did last time, though.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
	It's like, yeah, like Joe Biden being like, oh, Americans want a president, not a dictator.
	He's not in charge.
	You're in charge.
	Well, propagandists always rely on people having short memories, don't they?
	Yeah, and you're not wrong, but... Oh, it's still tasteless and disgusting, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	It doesn't add up.
	It doesn't make sense.
	And that's the thing.
	They've talked themselves into this mad cult where they, honestly, I think they did want Trump to get shot and killed.
	Anyway, so the media being the enemy of the people, of course, CNN, Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he falls at rally.
	You can hear the gunshots in the video.
	Everyone can hear the gunshots in the video.
	Come on.
	You have been doing this, you're doing this on purpose.
	What they're trying to do is make it sound like no big deal, nothing happened.
	But this event was just too huge.
	Too huge for them to downplay it.
	Because they were trying.
	They were constantly, I mean it's everywhere.
	CNN particularly are filth, aren't they?
	Yeah, they're all filth.
	All of these mainstream journalists are some of the worst human beings ever to have graced the earth, aren't they?
	I mean, imagine being David Jackson and having this headline attached to your name.
	Trump removed from stage by Secret Service after loud noises startles former president.
	You mean he got shot through the ear by a would-be assassin?
	The reason they're using things like that is, well, technically gunshots are loud noises.
	They can get away with it in the court of law, but they're trying to minimize the impact as much as possible.
	It's so slimy and disgusting.
	100%.
	This is how they lie to you by telling you the truth.
	Right.
	That is true.
	There were loud noises.
	They did startle the former president, but that's not the salient point from what has happened.
	I honestly believe that most people aren't that stupid.
	There is a segment of society, of adult humans, that will fall for that sort of misdirection.
	But I think they're a very small minority.
	Most people are not stupid.
	Not that stupid, where they're like, oh what?
	Trump fell over because of loud noises.
	Oh okay, next thing.
	Not many people... Well this is why half of America supports Trump and everyone who supports Trump hates the media.
	Well one of the many flaws of the mainstream media is they both have contempt for the average person and you know are actually far more stupid than your average person simultaneously.
	I mean look at this, Trump injured in incident at rally.
	What did he fall down the stairs like Joe Biden did he?
	It could be anything.
	It could be anything.
	Loud noises, yeah.
	It just drives you mental.
	Trump's ear gets in way of bullet.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The instant gut reaction, we have to downplay everything, even if it's obviously one of the worst things that could have happened.
	I mean, God only knows, if Trump had been hit and killed, God only knows what follows from that.
	Like, I actually think they should thank their lucky bloody stars that he just took a clip to the ear.
	Right?
	Loud noise kills Trump.
	God only knows.
	Anyway, so Elon Musk tweeted out the New York Times front page here.
	He failed the tests of leadership and betrayed America.
	Voters must reject him.
	Okay, well, hang on a second.
	Let's just... Betrayed America, right.
	That's treason then, right?
	So, again, this would have been justified.
	But failed the test of leadership?
	No, I don't think so.
	I actually think that he did exactly the right thing.
	It's actually shocking how one man could have such a good gut reaction to being shot like this.
	It's like, no, you put your fist up and you tell them to fight.
	That's superb.
	Scum media, man.
	In the past couple of months, Trump has actually been on some of the best form ever.
	Amazing.
	Even in the debate with Biden, he sort of kept his tongue.
	He's been quiet.
	He's been allowing Biden to make the mistakes, which is pretty savvy for Trump, who normally can't resist saying what he thinks.
	In what possible way did he betray America?
	By not getting involved in loads of foreign wars?
	By making sure that everyone could afford their groceries.
	Yeah, making the manager of the By attempting to build a wall and secure their borders.
	Yeah.
	By bringing peace to the Middle East.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what the betrayal is.
	I don't care.
	I'm not going to run.
	I'm sure the weapons manufacturers are very betrayed.
	And then you've got CNN afterwards complaining that Trump was like, no, we're going to fight.
	You know, we're not going to just get laid down and die.
	And they're like, well, you don't, we shouldn't be using inflammatory language.
	So the man just got shot.
	Shut up, you know, because you've been egging everyone on.
	Forbes said amazing.
	They've deleted loads of these, by the way.
	I had to go through the archives, right?
	Because it literally 24 hours later, everything they post in the moment, they're like, yeah, maybe, maybe.
	So, this for example, will surviving gunfire be Donald Trump's next appeal to black voters?
	Incredible statement.
	Will the mugshot make him more popular with black voters?
	It's like, wow, what are you saying about black voters to suggest that that's the thing they care about?
	I remember seeing a screenshot of this and thinking, there's no way that's real.
	And then, I'm a diversity, equity and inclusion expert as well, it's just the icing on the cake.
	I couldn't believe it.
	Sean Harper, blacks are criminals.
	Yeah, thanks Sean.
	That's a really, really productive way of looking at the world.
	Not sure that's actually universally applicable.
	But unironically, he says, the release of his criminal mugshot deeply resonated with black voters because they know the firsthand unfairness of our nation's criminal justice system.
	It's so unfair it can persecute a former president.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	Hopefully being shot doesn't become a similarly problematic strategy to link Trump with an experience that far too many brackets, not all black people have.
	We're just going to move on.
	Sky News just came out, and again, they've deleted this.
	I had to archive it.
	The first thing Sky News comes out with, well, nothing justifies an assassination bid, but.
	Oh, well, but.
	Whenever you say but, you negate whatever came before it.
	That's the purpose of but.
	You recognize that is a thing, but why it's not relevant is good.
	But did Trump play a part in changing the rules of engagement?
	No.
	Trump has not actually encouraged people to assassinate other people.
	He's not actually said, well, I mean, he probably has said some inflammatory things, but no, I think that you guys started it.
	And I think that you're the ones, uh, and again, I had to go and get, had to go and get the archives for this.
	Um, but, uh, Basically, they say, well, look, I mean, Trump was downplaying the kidnap plot against Gretchen Whitmer that there were 12 FBI informants involved in.
	That was practically organized by the FBI, it seems.
	Or the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.
	It's like, okay, what's he got to do with that?
	Nothing to do with him.
	It was drugs or something, wasn't it?
	There was some weird thing going on between the guy and her husband.
	The hammer attack thing.
	Did we ever find out what that was about?
	Not really.
	They just stopped talking about that one.
	Yeah, because obviously it was something to do with drugs or alcohol or something like that.
	But the point is, that's all they can argue in this.
	It's like, well, Trump downplayed the plot against Gretchen Whitmer.
	How is he responsible for that?
	It's mad.
	But they say no one's claiming anything justified in an assassination attempt, but the clear suggestion is that Donald Trump played his part in changing the rules of engagement and recklessly drove hostility in US politics.
	Well, it's a false equivalence really because this directly involves Trump because it's the media narrative about Trump, so it's fair enough, right?
	Whereas when it's other cases that don't directly involve him, well, how can you link him?
	It's far more tenuous.
	Anyway, so the next one was Joe Cox's husband.
	Joe Cox killed by a nationalist in 2016, I think it was, yelling Britain first over Brexit.
	And Joe Cox's husband has come out and said, Donald Trump has some culpability in creating an environment where violence is more likely.
	Right.
	We're not going to say that about Joe Cox though, right?
	She's not culpable in her own murder, right?
	So it's not really appropriate to say Donald Trump is culpable in the attempt on his life.
	Does it mean this should have always been off the table?
	Just a deeply inappropriate thing to say?
	Anyway, let's go on to the left-wing reactions.
	Various leftists.
	And again, these are massive, massive tweets that I think are representative of a well of feeling on the left.
	As you can see, this one, 12 million views, 54,000 likes.
	I'm not going to lie, this is a very weird reaction.
	Why would you open yourself up to more potential harm after thinking you were almost assassinated and yelling, fight, fight, fight?
	Because Trump is a leader.
	That's why.
	Because Trump is in charge of his movement and represents the people around him and is an example to others.
	That's why.
	They just can't understand it.
	And because they can't understand it, this makes them get onto, well, conspiratorial thinking.
	For example, again, I had to go to the archive for Tim Wise, the professional anti-white activist, who said, that fist pump after Trump was shot is too perfect.
	No way someone thinks to do that after an actual assassination attempt.
	It's what a MAGA script writer would write, though.
	Right, so there's a setup, Tim.
	Is it all squibs and that was fake blood and stuff?
	What are you talking about?
	Is it the guy who shot on the roof?
	Not really dad.
	That's just a mannequin.
	Why would the Biden appointed Secret Service Director be cooperating with Trump to fake this?
	I can see how if you were personally a coward, you might think it was script written.
	But if you're just a Chad, like Trump, seconds after being shot, You stand up tall and do a fist pump.
	You're wounded, you've got blood on your face, you fight and fight.
	You know, it's like, Tim Wise is just like, well, I don't recognize heroism when I see it, thank you very much.
	And then you've got the, again, lots of these, this just being, you know, the archetypal example of leftists who are just disappointed that he wasn't dead.
	Just found out about this shit.
	It just happened.
	I haven't even had a second to process.
	You're telling me somebody finally had the balls to bring a pew-pew.
	And you missed!
	We were a second away!
	We were a centimeter away from half of the problem being gone and you missed!
	Weird that she used a centimeter.
	That's the thing you take away from this.
	The clear neurosis.
	The metric.
	Yeah, what a scumbag.
	Yeah, but I mean, they all are.
	And again, there were just loads of these videos that Libs and TikTok were posting.
	This is just something they've been encouraging for years.
	I mean, it's literally something they've been encouraging for years.
	This is from what, three weeks ago now?
	Beginning of the month?
	54,000 likes.
	There's got to be at least one white guy willing to throw his life away to commit the act that will save this country from the impending fascist takeover.
	Make the news, white boy.
	White boy?
	Well, interesting that they appeal to white boys when it comes to committing crime.
	Yeah, yeah.
	54,000 likes.
	Wow.
	Mad, isn't it?
	This has been in the milieu of the left-wing activists for a long time.
	Come on, white boy, throw your life away and the Republic.
	Yeah.
	Come on, do it.
	Yeah.
	Do it.
	Well, I mean, it's either that or a fascist takeover, you see.
	And where have they got that?
	Well, I would suggest Joe Biden calling him a dictator doesn't help.
	I would suggest that the New York Times and all that say, no, he is basically Hitler.
	Doesn't help.
	Of course, they're driving their base into a wild froth over this.
	Everyone was talking to Destiny about this.
	To be honest with you, I don't care about Destiny's opinion on this.
	So I'm not interested in covering it, even though everyone was like, oh, No, no one should talk about destiny.
	Just ignore him.
	He's doing this for attention.
	He is attention farming.
	He is a small, spiteful, cuckolded mutant, and he is angry that nobody gives him enough attention.
	That's why he's doing this.
	Don't worry about it.
	Right.
	Cenk Uygur, though, had a great take.
	And again, For anyone who's not familiar, Cenk Uygur is a partisan, intransigent left-winger who hates Magruder and Trump and everything they stand for.
	He is open about this, he talks about this on his show The Young Turks every day, and he couldn't help but be like, well, credit to Trump and his fans today, and only today, Trump sticking his hand up and saying, fight, fight, fight, while the crowd chanted USA, USA, USA, was badass.
	Yes, it was badass.
	Because Cenk's a man, right?
	And any man can look at this.
	No, he is.
	Cenk's a man, right?
	And any man can look at this and go, OK, I may be a doctrinaire leftist, but that was cool, right?
	Trump turned this into a massive win, a win so big, even his enemies are going, OK, that was cool.
	Give you that.
	More of a man-Buffalo hybrid, but I take your point.
	So I thought we'd go to the Patriot reaction.
	So lots and lots of people resonated with this one.
	It's 141,000 likes, right?
	Lots of people resonated with this.
	A chap being like, well, look, no more feeling nervous to wear this in public.
	If he can take a bullet for me, I can show my support.
	Put your MAGA hat on, right?
	And I think this is going to be something you see in places like New York State, California, Portland, where there are lots of quiet Trump supporters who, because it's a very heavy Democrat area, are like, well, you know, I'm just not going to put my Joe Biden sign up because I might vote Trump.
	But I think you're going to see a lot of Trump signs up now in the lawns, wearing the maghazard.
	No, people are just like, right, I'm done.
	I'm done keeping this.
	You know, this is too much now.
	And there are lots of people coming from Trump.
	I actually forgot to get 50 Cent up.
	50 Cent did a concert.
	I had like a Trump image behind him with, you know, the bloody ear and stuff like that, praising him.
	You know, it's like, OK, well, good.
	Because I believe Mr. Scent has got a song all about there's loads of men out there trying to kill me all the time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Which fits.
	Yeah.
	Just like Who Shot You?
	There's actually lots of rap songs aren't there?
	Yeah.
	That would be apt.
	They've got a whole different spectrum of scenarios of shootings covered I think.
	Yeah.
	And then you get like, again, things like this, where, again, these have just got, you know, huge numbers on them.
	25 million views, 165,000.
	But this lady, Stephanie, was like, well, look, I graduated in 2012 with a women's studies degree.
	So as a feminist, I cried in 2016 when Trump got elected.
	I lost touch with the Dems around Me Too, discovered entrepreneurship and ended up becoming a single issue voting centrist.
	But in the last 6-12 months I thought I was going to abstain from voting because both options are equally terrible.
	But watching Trump survive an assassination attempt and act like a total savage has shifted me into some strange patriotic gear that my fancy feminism white men bad infected brain never showed me.
	And so she's voting for Trump, obviously.
	And that is just, like, again, Cenk Uygur is suddenly going, well, do I want to vote for Biden, or do I want to vote for the badass?
	Like, leadership is its own reward here, and it shows.
	And so, again, just...
	Just saying, you know, Trump seems to have come out of this like he can make anything into a win, apparently.
	He's not a young man as well.
	He's 78!
	He gets tackled to the ground to the point where his shoes come off because the Secret Service tackled him so hard.
	He gets up.
	Blood on his face and just like, you know, defiant, which is superb.
	Elon Musk just, I fully endorsed President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery.
	There we go.
	I think for a lot of these people, and it's not just Elon, there are other billionaires.
	For example, David Sachs, who's an investor.
	There's Bill Ackman, who's a hedge fund manager.
	These are all, you know, very famous, unbelievably wealthy billionaires.
	I think for a lot of them, this is something that they've wanted to do for a while.
	Because I don't think they're on board with the Democrat agenda, but of course Trump in their circles has been politically toxic for a long time, but this was a good moment to be like, no, we're with him.
	End of story.
	Which is superb.
	Great, great seat to be honest.
	And this is the betting average at the moment.
	You can see there Trump spiking at 63.3%.
	They've got money on the line, so I imagine that the betting average is something to consider.
	Bookies are often very accurate on these things.
	Well, it's their money on the line.
	Much more accurate than... The polls.
	Yeah, than a lot of polls.
	There aren't any polls out yet because obviously it's been like a day or two days.
	So I am looking forward to seeing what this does for Trump and the polls.
	I imagine it's, you know, he's handled it brilliantly.
	I imagine it's going to do him a world of good.
	And so I thought, finally, we'd just go to Trump himself, who posted something very, honestly, well-restrained on Truth Social.
	Like, thanks, Secret Service, law enforcement, for the rapid response.
	More importantly, I extend my condolences to the family of the person that the rally has killed, also to the family of another person that's badly injured.
	It's incredible that such an act can take place in our country.
	Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead.
	I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear.
	I immediately knew something was wrong, and then I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through my skin.
	Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening, God bless America.
	It's not even extreme.
	It's not even like bombastic, like his usual rhetoric.
	That's actually a very, very sensible statement.
	Modest and gracious, even.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's actually kind of gracious.
	Just a statement of facts.
	But the first thing he does is not talk about himself.
	He thanks the Secret Service and gives condolences to the family.
	Like, that's not the kind of Trump that people knew in 2016, you know what I mean?
	And then he's obviously said, look, we need to come together.
	Evil will not prevail, which is all good.
	And then finally, I thought we'd talk about the Democrat reaction.
	It's good.
	Good reaction.
	Quote, we are so beyond effed, said one longtime Democrat insider.
	The presidential contest ended last night, said a veteran Democrat consultant.
	Now is the time to focus on keeping the Senate and try and pick up the House.
	The only positive thing that came out of the last night for the Democrats is that we are no longer talking about Joe Biden's age today.
	These are direct quotes from Democrats.
	They're not wrong, to be fair, are they?
	No, they can see that Trump has probably won the election with his reaction to this.
	Because Trump's New York, right?
	He's a New Yorker.
	But New York is, of course, Democrat, heavily Democrat.
	Schumer is New York, right?
	And I would just love it.
	If the New Yorkers voted Chuck Schumer out.
	Yeah.
	I don't see it happening, but it would be so good.
	Yeah.
	And one House, senior House Democrat anonymously said, quote, we've all resigned ourselves to a second Trump presidency.
	Good news.
	So, yeah, that was the general tone of reaction, which, again, like All the right people are crying, and all the wrong people are crying.
	All the people I want crying are crying, and all the people I want cheering are cheering.
	So that's good.
	305CAI says, I have heard the Secret Service has a policy that they can't shoot until there's already gunfire.
	That's not correct, though, is it?
	I don't think so.
	Otherwise, what's the point?
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Well, we can only shoot after the That's the rules of engagement in the Middle East when we're out there, where you only fire when fired upon.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sean says to me, this is incitement to violence.
	You should sue from Florida and tie them up in the courts with gag on us for the next two years.
	I mean, it looks like incitement to violence to me.
	I mean, this, I think Dan wants to cover it more tomorrow.
	So in a more detailed way, but it's what they call stochastic terrorism.
	Last Russian says I was playing War Thunder.
	No Sargon Twitch to look after.
	I was listening to Trump on Rumble on my second monitor, heard the gunfire, ran to the Discord.
	Where were you when Trump was nearly assassinated?
	Well, like I said, I was on a plane.
	Where were you guys?
	The Strong Alibi.
	I was!
	I was watching the film The Northman.
	Again, for the third time.
	Fleetlord Atvar says, found a site that's collecting hate posts about Trump's assassination attempt.
	Call the July13th.com forward slash hate forward slash.
	Dozens of examples.
	Well, I don't doubt.
	I don't.
	I wonder if the 13th will go into sort of the public consciousness the way the 6th of, is it October?
	I can't even remember myself.
	6th of January.
	6th of January, sorry, sorry.
	One that hasn't been read by the way.
	6th of January.
	Nat G Hammond wasn't read, I don't think.
	It was my mistake.
	I was mistaken.
	It was Top Advisor Hoffman, Dimitri Melhorn, not Hoffman himself.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you for the correction.
	All right.
	So where's my document?
	Where's the document?
	If you could bring that up for me.
	There we go.
	All right.
	So I thought, one sec, let me just get the document ready before they start the YouTube clip.
	Okay.
	I thought we could just talk all about sort of assassinations in general or the mind of an assassin.
	Look a little bit more at the guy and other historical precedents and all that sort of thing.
	Now the first thing that struck me was the age of this kid.
	And he is a kid.
	20 years old.
	A little more than a child.
	Not old enough to buy a beer in America.
	See, that's why I'm suspicious about it.
	Because, you know, not a good shooter.
	You know, someone who He may well be fairly easily led because he's not a popular guy and it's not like the FBI doesn't have a history of doing this kind of grooming.
	So I have to say I don't know anything but I'm deeply suspicious.
	Are you going to say something, Josh?
	Yeah, I mean he'd only left college two months prior to shooting him and you'd think you put all that work in and all of a sudden you're assassinating the president.
	It seems a bit strange to me.
	Ambitious?
	Yeah, now I don't want to be unnecessarily rude to the younger members of our audience but when you're 20 you're still a kid.
	Yeah, we were 20.
	You're basically still a kid.
	Yeah, I mean I'm 43, going to be 44 next month so I'm just old enough really To look back at when I was in my 20s and realised I didn't know anything, but I thought I knew everything.
	The idea that Socrates says, you know, be aware of how little you know.
	I'm more and more aware of that the older I get.
	More and more aware of it.
	But I remember when I was 17, when I was 19, when I was 25, I thought I knew everything.
	I thought I had everything down.
	It's a common thing, the arrogance of youth.
	I'll stay quiet then.
	You're only 13.
	28.
	You're knocking 30, you're alright.
	Thank you.
	I was going to say, assassinations is a young man's game.
	Is it?
	Yeah.
	Surprisingly so.
	I've noticed this before, this isn't my insight, it's been noticed before.
	Not all assassins are young, but a lot of them are.
	A great deal of them are.
	John Wilkes Booth.
	The killer of Lincoln was 26 at the time and his co-conspirators were 30 years old.
	23, 27 and the other two were 21 years old.
	Really?
	Because more than Lincoln was killed on that day.
	There was a whole gang of them really.
	One exception is the the assassin of James Garfield in 1881.
	Um, Charles Guitto was 40.
	Now, that's one of the oldest, yeah, that's one of the, in fact, if anyone out there can find any examples of anyone over about 45 that ever did an assassination, they're nearly all in their 20s.
	Nearly all in their 20s against a young man's game because I think there's a specific type of psychology going on.
	One that you've probably feel like a loser and the fast track to getting your name in the history books is to do a political assassination.
	There's a few examples of that.
	You don't care if you go down in history for being good or achieving something positive.
	Well I'll be a baddie then.
	I know that the guy who assassinated John Lennon did it specifically for the notoriety and the fame from it.
	That was his justification for doing it explicitly.
	Mark David Chapman was 25 when he did that.
	Let me just run through a few.
	The guy that killed William McKinley in 1901, he was 28.
	Lee Harvey Oswald was 24 years old, if you believe the official account of that murder, which I don't, although I do think Lee Harvey Oswald was involved in some way.
	I think he was exactly what he said he was, a patsy, but the fingerprints of intelligence were all over Lee Oswald.
	Anyway, he was 24.
	The guy that tried to or did shoot unsuccessfully to Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 after he'd been president, in fact talk about being a chad or a badass, after Roosevelt was shot, Teddy Roosevelt, and survived he says that it takes more than that to take down a Like a bull, like me.
	Didn't he give a speech afterwards as well?
	I don't know.
	I'm pretty sure he had the bullet in him and he still gave a speech.
	Ronald Reagan's would-be assassin, John Hinckley Jr., was 26.
	Reagan also was pretty badass.
	He got badly shot in that.
	He got, wasn't it, eight shots?
	Yeah, he was shot up pretty bad, like through the torso and stuff.
	And he went into hospital for like a day or two or three, something like that.
	And anyway, long before he really should have left hospital, and he was no spring chicken, he just left hospital.
	He was like, I'm fine, don't worry about it.
	Imagine, you know, being Ronald Reagan, you get some good doctors though, don't you?
	I'd be a massive baby about it.
	I'd milk it for all it's worth.
	I'm in a hostel for months now.
	Yeah, you said, and I'm not discriminating, but you said it was like a very minor wound Trump got.
	It didn't look all that minor to me.
	I wouldn't want to put it through.
	Oh no.
	I'm sure it hurts, but like it's just in the cartilage.
	In the grand scheme of assassinations.
	Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's a little more than a graze, isn't it?
	Gavrilo Princip, arguably the most famous assassin of all time, perhaps not including Lee Harvey Oswald, was 19 years old.
	When he killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife in 1914.
	Just shy of 20 he was.
	Again, there's this thing, when you're that young, you don't know what you're doing, what you're talking about, you don't know your own mind.
	It's very dangerous when you get a violent young man that thinks he's got absolute certainty in things.
	That's a dangerous recipe.
	Very much so.
	The guy that killed Yitzhak Rabin in 1995, was 25 years old.
	Sirhan Sirhan, who shot JFK, if you believe that narrative, Was only 26 years old.
	I mean, RFK, the bullets that killed him were from his own bodyguard, but we'll pass over that.
	I don't know anything about these conspiracies.
	The killers of Anwar Sadat, the Egyptian leader, were 26 and 29.
	Mark Chapman was 27.
	The guy that killed Trotsky was 27.
	It was 25, sorry.
	Mark David Chapman was 25.
	The guy that killed Trotsky, 27.
	It was 25, sorry.
	Mark David Chapman was 25.
	The guy that killed Trotsky was 27.
	The assassins of Reinhard Heydrich were 28 and 28.
	See, this is a sweet spot.
	It's in your 20s.
	It's a young man's game.
	The killers of Indira Gandhi, the Prime Minister of India, were 22 and 25.
	Now, there are a few exceptions though.
	John Bellingham famously killed one of our Prime Ministers.
	Spencer Percival.
	He was 42.
	That's the oldest one I can really find.
	I'm sure there are examples, and anyone out there can find any.
	Do let us know in the comments or whatever.
	Let me know, I'd be interested.
	Samson's putting one in there for you now.
	Is he?
	Mm-hmm.
	One of the exceptions to the rule.
	Oh yeah, the guy that killed Shinzo Abe was in his early 40s, 41.
	James Earl Ray, who apparently killed Martin Luther King, was 40 years old.
	The killers of Gandhi, the Mahatma, they were in their 30s.
	But a lot of killers, whether assassins or otherwise, are quite often guys in their 20s.
	Because, like I say, it's that sweet spot of being impulsive and violent and being absolutely convinced the righteousness of your cause out of an ignorance or out of a lack of perspective.
	For example, the 7-7 killers, the 7-7 bombers in Britain, their leader, Mohammed Sadiq Khan, which is his real name, was 30 years old, but the other three were 22, 19 and 18 years old.
	Shazid Tamweer, Jermaine Lindsay and Hassid Hussain.
	If you look at the 9-11 killers, if you believe that narrative, their leader, muhammad atah was 33 and the ages of the rest of them if i'll just spiel them off were 22 28 22 25 23 24 22 20 22 29 26 24 25 20 26 20 23 and 21.
	so the idea of being an assassin or a suicide killer or even just an infantryman in the army They need you young.
	But also a revolutionary, right?
	Because I saw the other day the ages of the people involved in the American Revolution.
	George Washington was the oldest at 44.
	The rest of them were in their 20s and some of them are teenagers.
	It's like, okay, this is wild.
	If you can get a young guy, the late teens or in their 20s, You're impressionable at that age.
	You're sort of, um, you're open to be manipulated.
	But you're also active.
	But also, yeah, but also capable of doing extreme things.
	Yeah.
	Even Joseph Stalin was robbing banks in his, you know, late teens, early twenties for the Communist Party, wasn't he?
	Well, if you look at a lot of school shooters from Columbine onwards, sometimes they are actually children.
	Actually children, or boys that are old enough to do extreme violence but young enough to not really know what they're doing.
	Yeah.
	Not really.
	Assassination is not an old man's game.
	50, 60 year olds just they don't do it.
	You get more, you know what it's like when you get a bit older, you become a bit more sort of case-a-ras-a-ras about things.
	You're not going to go around sniping people you don't like.
	It's not going to happen.
	This leads us on to the point of, I always find it strange that American presidents got assassinated.
	He's there for four years.
	Maximum of eight years.
	Yeah, just wait.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's not going to be around forever.
	It's more dangerous to be an American president than a European monarch.
	There are way more assassinations and assassination attempts against one country's president than an entire continent's monarchs who are going to be there for life.
	Obviously don't assassinate anyone.
	But you can see how the logic would make more sense.
	Okay, I need to kill this king because otherwise I've got another 40 years of this.
	Or I've got four years of this presence.
	Why would you ruin your own life?
	I mean, just as a pure Machiavellian calculation.
	I just can't understand why anyone would do it.
	Quite often the motivations are pretty thin.
	So for example, John Wilkes Booth, he was just annoyed at what Lincoln had done to the South.
	But the war was already over.
	It was 1865, the war had finished.
	So it was out of pure resentment and spite?
	Or he's actually pissed off at himself that he hadn't had the balls to actually fight for the Confederacy?
	But that makes more sense, right?
	Because this is a personal, deeply personal investment.
	But a lot of them seem to be, like, political.
	It's like, oh, I don't like what this guy will do, like this Trump assassination.
	I bet it's about the politics of Donald Trump.
	And so it's just like, okay, that's really weird because, again, he'd only be around for four or eight years and there's nothing stopping just another person who has the same platform from being elected on the same platform and carrying on.
	But I think it's what Beau's getting at because your brain doesn't stop fully developing around the age of about 25.
	That's when, you know, your neuroplasticity, as it's called, starts to become a bit more rigid and your mind is formed, I suppose you can say in inverted commas.
	And until that point, you're sort of changeable and malleable and I think that that's what happens here in a lot of cases.
	Just to go back to the motivations for the four presidents that have been assassinated, the guy that killed James Garfield, he was a fan of Garfield.
	And after Garfield became president, he went to him for a job.
	In those days, in the 1880s, you could literally wait and get an audience with the president.
	Yeah.
	And he said, I deserve a job.
	I want to be an ambassador.
	And they were like, no, we don't know you.
	And no anyway, get lost.
	And so he Decided he was going to kill the President.
	Personal resentment?
	Yeah.
	Is this a frequent driver of assassinations?
	I think so, yeah.
	It's interesting.
	Sort of an inferiority complex or something.
	All sorts of different... There's also the whole smorgasbord of different motivations.
	The guy that killed McKinley was just simply an anarchist.
	So that's political.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Maybe, this is just pure speculation, this kid was bullied in school, the potential Trump assassin, and he was purportedly quite conservative.
	Maybe he blames Donald Trump for being bullied in that he was bullied because he was saying things that conservatives were saying and he's the epitome of conservative politics at the minute and he was taking out his resentment.
	It's obviously not a logical reason.
	It doesn't have to be logical.
	It may be the case.
	Who knows what was really going through this kid's head.
	Not much is my thinking.
	There's one example, there's so many examples of this sort of thing, but one thing that struck me once.
	There was the Mumbai attacks in the 2008 or something I think it was.
	If anyone remembers those.
	There's all sorts of multiple prongs of attacks in Mumbai by Islamists in India.
	And one of them was at a hotel.
	And the handlers, the sort of masterminds that set that up, used really young people as always.
	Sort of young violent men who are sort of easily manipulated.
	And some of them were in the hotel and they were actually talking to their handlers on mobile phone, I think.
	And they were so sort of unworldly, so sort of know-nothing, that they were walking around this big plush hotel in Mumbai and they couldn't believe that there was such a thing.
	In a plush hotel lobby.
	Because they were rural Pakistanis that come from absolute poverty.
	And all they'd had smashed into their head was the ideology, why they did that thing.
	And they see this hotel in Mumbai and they sort of can't quite believe it.
	You know, what's interesting is there was an Indian Muslim terrorist who was caught because his suicide vest or something like that failed to go off.
	And so they were interrogating him.
	And I remember reading through this interrogation, just fascinated, like what was driving him to do it?
	And he was just, I mean, I don't want to say rational, but he had a totally rational reason.
	He was like, well, look, I mean, I'm going to get 72 virgins in paradise if I lead a good Islamic life.
	I just figure, well, why would I wait that long?
	I thought I'd just get there now and it's like right okay so that is just like true believer acting logically within the paradigm he's within just like okay well you know he was like 17 or something he's really young he was just like yeah I just figured I'd just get there it's like whoa no wait it's like what are you gonna do with that man?
	And there's a version of that right where instead of it's an Islamic vision of heaven and 73 virgins or whatever it's just that my name will go down in history as an assassin I will be remembered, even if it costs me my life and I'm known as an evil person.
	I'll take that.
	You need only look at the fact that there's been plenty of reporting since of serial killers or even the Manson family, to a certain extent, being drawn to people who are obviously immoral and bad.
	And that is communicated, you know, that these groupies to serial killers are well known and people who don't really have much in the way of social status may see that and think, well, that's desirable to me.
	This guy seems like a typical loser case that thought the best way to sort of make any sort of impression in the world is to do something despicable.
	Yeah.
	It seems to me that's probably what was going on in his mind, but probably convinced himself that it was the righteous thing to do, that it'll make Rachel Maddow happy, or whatever.
	We'll probably find out coming down.
	So the last thing to say is that, just in general, that it is sort of... I wasn't that surprised to see that he was 20 years old.
	it wasn't like wow that's remarkably young where did he get the sort of guts to do something like it was like yeah no that makes sense yeah yeah he's just about big and strong enough to climb on a roof and point a rifle at something and sort of callow enough to actually do it um so there you go so i believe we have a bunch of video comments don't we i think we're Okay, that's fine.
	We're alright to overrun, so we're going to get to as much as we can.
	On the topic of managerialism, a central figure y'all ought to know about is Robert McNamara.
	He came up through Harvard doing a business degree, specializing in scientific and analytical approaches to business.
	During the war, he was roped into the Air Force, where he applied his novel managerialism to the Air Force supply line.
	But the zenith of his influence was in 1960, when Kennedy brought him in as the Secretary of Defense for the U.S.
	Part of the terms was McNamara got complete and total control over the Pentagon, governing it his way, spreading his managerialism through the entire federal government.
	McNamara is probably the central figure in the rise of managerialism.
	And not enough people know or hate his name.
	Me and Dan talked briefly about McNamara in one of his Brokenomics, about Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
	We said we will do Brokenomics, or perhaps an Epochs at some point, about either or, or both, McNamara and... Who's the really, really old guy, lived to be 100, only died fairly recently?
	Kissinger.
	Kissinger, yeah.
	We might do a thing about Kissinger and McNamara.
	Yeah, an absolutely pivotal figure for the second half of the 20th century, yeah.
	You know those memes where the Americans are bombing the Middle East with the rainbow flags on the bombs and hashtag BLM?
	That's what we're going for here.
	Rainbow drones with lesbian pilots.
	B stands for bombing LGBT.
	Let's go That was a genuine recruitment ad there from the West Military Yeah It is mad though how there is definitely some sort of competency crisis being brought about by diversity hiring.
	Not that it's the intrinsic characteristics of the people, it's that they are being focused upon.
	It's mad.
	Who'd have thought that if you hire based on anything other than merit... It's the most obvious subversion from the top down.
	Look, can you imagine being some sort of, you know, Islamist and you're like, I've got a very hardline thing and then you just get bombed to death by a rainbow pride bomb.
	Like the gay empire is killing us.
	I mean, at least the other Islamists go, okay, we've really got to win this one, lads.
	You know, they're very serious about their gay.
	I do like how there's a lot of dignity dying in battle until it's a gay bomb.
	After seeing the reactions of the online left-tubers to Trump's assassination, particularly from Dev and Destiny, I'm asking for boycotts for any right-wingers who have them on their show.
	We know what leftists think.
	Even academic research acknowledges that we know the leftist side of the story.
	These debates and discussions just put bread in the pockets of people who want us dead.
	Any right-wing personality that continues to engage with these leftists should face boycotts.
	This bloodsport stuff is done.
	We've crossed that Rubicon.
	It's over.
	Any more enabling of assassination apologists is just fucking disgusting.
	Well, I mean, I personally, I'm still going to deal with people.
	So I agree with this guy.
	I disagree with you.
	We've had this behind the scenes.
	It's not like that, uh, intense or anything, but I think, yeah, I don't want someone like Narinder Kaur or Ara Bastalion, but you think that the conversation is still worth having.
	I agree with that dude.
	I think I can beat them on their own terms.
	Anyway.
	Nothing indicates the end of a friendship like finding out the now former friend celebrates an attempt on someone's life.
	So ended a friendship for me this weekend.
	However, my main thought was on the mainstream media's calm and measured coverage, belying a seriousness they had long since abandoned.
	The moment I heard the news, I turned my hatred to the media who have lied so much and turned people against each other to the point that they'd even celebrate an attempt on someone's life.
	Vile.
	The mainstream media are vile.
	Well said.
	Hello, gentlemen.
	Isn't it interesting how the left just suddenly embraced the idea that the actions of individuals shouldn't be reflected on the entire group?
	Yeah, it doesn't feel very good when it happens to you, does it?
	Like most of their dumb schemes, this one is going to backfire in November, bigly.
	I will say though, the most gigachat thing Trump did on Saturday after being shot wasn't just to get up and yell fight to the crowd and show them that he was alright.
	Before Trump gets up after the shooter gets his makeover, you can hear Trump order the Secret Service to let him grab his shoes before they escort him off stage.
	What a fucking legend.
	Yeah, you can hear him.
	I'm going to get my shoes. - Actually, one thing I did say during your segment, I was surprised how long it took them to get him off stage.
	You can hear one guy go, move, move, and they don't move for another fair few seconds.
	I thought it was protocol to get him out of there sort of ASAP, like every microsecond counted.
	They just had one job there, didn't they?
	And I could imagine just some random people, being the security detail, could have done a better job there.
	Maybe I'm being a bit harsh.
	I'm surprised that it's still someone's job to just dive on top of him.
	Of course it is, but it's still weird to me.
	It's a 5'2 woman's job to try and dive at the 6'3 president.
	I mean, like, and she's like hunkering down.
	It's like, you're no good here at all.
	Sorry, you know.
	Can we have guys whose sort of silhouette is bigger than Trump's?
	Yeah.
	Can we have that?
	Who's like the Russian guy who had a giant, like, um, bodyguard?
	There was some European monarch, or Austrian monarch, who was famous for having literally a giant bodyguard.
	So like six foot five guys.
	You'd think it'd be like that.
	There's lots of examples in history.
	Some of the first Caesars wanted giant German bodyguards.
	They insisted on it.
	I think Frederick I wanted giant men to protect him.
	Well, I'm really, really glad that Beau's excited and I'm honoured to help out.
	And let me help out Rory as well.
	Tell him to send me a message and I'll let him join my game dev group and he can see what we're doing.
	And we can maybe help him out as well.
	Is that in reference to the Trump thing that he had in the Islander magazine, the video game?
	I don't know.
	I think he mentioned that he would love that game to be real, the Donald Trump game.
	I dread to think what this is going to be.
	be uh-oh i'm not into um 60 year old men um kia starmer has turbocharged my arousal levels i I feel fruity a lot happens while you're away yeah I can tell but like the whole like media women writing
	oh Keir Starmer's getting me out shut up Yeah, shut up, that's cringe.
	Embarrassing thing to write.
	And there were loads of articles.
	Yeah, there were, yeah.
	Enough to do a whole segment.
	Yeah, I was going to cover it, it's just like, you were an embarrassment.
	In 1611, John Rolfe harvested the first crop of tobacco in the struggling Virginia colony, starting an agricultural revolution that allowed Virginia to become viable.
	This crop found a home up and down English society and was enjoyed everywhere.
	Before its widespread adoption, King James wrote a counterblast to tobacco due to his courtier's new habit, denouncing its use, comparing the smoke to that given off by hell.
	James' attempt to encourage new crops in Virginia, but the genie was well and truly out of the bottle.
	Yeah, interesting that they tried all sorts of crops.
	Yeah.
	Like British sorts of crops and they didn't really work that well in the Virginia soil and atmosphere.
	But tobacco, boom, perfect.
	I mean, you'd think it's a lovely temperate area.
	It's warm, there's rainfall.
	You'd think it'd be really productive.
	Yeah, no, it was OK.
	But for tobacco, it was just perfect.
	Right, OK.
	So, Kelvin.
	You were extremely rude, were you?
	I was not.
	All I said is that you've been speaking about demolishing the Conservative Party for decades and then at the last hurdle you buckled.
	And that's the word I used, buckled.
	He said that was nasty!
	I mean...
	Calvin is right.
	Hitchens is deliberately avoiding.
	He's trying to hide behind, oh you've caused me great offence.
	Come on, he hasn't really.
	I like Morgoth's take on Hitchens.
	Ignore him now.
	I agree with that wholeheartedly.
	We just need to leave him to be a miserable old man in peace.
	He's a type of highbrow troll.
	That's what I see him as now.
	Yeah, very, very high brow, but just wants a reaction out of you.
	That's that's his oxygen.
	He's definitely got sort of beautiful loser syndrome as well.
	Just like, well, look, I lost in the most perfect way.
	Wasn't I just correct on every issue?
	No, whatever, Peter.
	I don't want to lose.
	OK, so.
	With the increasing emergence of unelected officials and their abandonment of national identity in favor of globalist and modern values and ideas, I would like to posit a term for this brave new world we seem to find ourselves in.
	You've heard of city-states, nation-states, kingdoms, and empires.
	Well, I call this the Manager State, named after the often unaccountable and sometimes unelected managerial class you've brought up a number of times.
	Do you think this term is apt, or do you have one that's better?
	I mean, to call it a managerial state is not even an innovation.
	James Burnham has been calling it that for years.
	60, 70 years, something like that.
	So you are correct, basically.
	Yeah, I wouldn't disagree.
	Managerial technocracy.
	It's more like just an old school oligarchy.
	Just another oligarchy.
	Yeah, but it's the nature of it that's unique.
	He's not wrong.
	I'm not saying he's wrong.
	I have recently found out that, yes, I am one of those holistic therapists who is turning your mom far right, because apparently I cannot work without dropping microaggressions everywhere, so instead I'm just hanging out in the woods next to the World War II ammo storage facility.
	I was going to say that looked like a bunker or something.
	Well done for turning old women far right.
	So thank you for the wholesome comment.
	That ammo storage looks like a Hobbit's ammo storage as well under a hill.
	That's what they didn't show you in the films.
	I'm sure we've all seen this picture of Keir doing the rounds with his unusual hand gesture.
	Some people ascribing it to the occult.
	I suppose you could call it that.
	I'm just disappointed that the only person that seems to have worked this out is me.
	Someone who literally does colouring in for a living.
	Here we go.
	Plain as day.
	He's signing up to OnlyFans, is that what's going on?
	This is all just one big ploy for his real career.
	That's just someone who's awkward in their own skin, that's all that is, it seems to me.
	100%, 100%.
	I don't think he's interesting enough to be part of any occult thing.
	I just think he feels, yeah, awkward.
	The chipmunk is back.
	Only now it likes digging around in pots.
	I'm not really sure what it eats in there because there's no food, but it seems to like it.
	It actually doesn't hurt any of the plants either, so that's good.
	Get him some hazelnuts.
	He'll be thrilled.
	Yeah, that's really cute.
	I'm gonna find out that hazelnuts are poisonous to chipmunks.
	And almonds, I don't know.
	Let's have more wholesome stuff like that.
	Yeah, animals, always good.
	We're back to the start, or is this another one, Samson?
	That's it.
	Okay, so we've got some leftover Rumble ones, and then we can do some written comments as well.
	Right, I'll do those.
	Sure.
	Fleetlord Atvar says, Deep State tried to murder Trump with various sources, but I'm going to leave those for now because I can't check them.
	That's a random name says, what happened this weekend is a historic moment to be sure by Western standards.
	In Latin America, Eastern Europe, we call it just another day that ends in Y. Well, we did cover the most dangerous elections in history.
	Yeah, the Mexican ones.
	Yeah, where 37 candidates were murdered.
	Mad.
	Matt says to 305 CAI, Pennsylvania is a closed primary state.
	Nikki Haley was courting Democrats to cross over and vote for her since Biden was going to win.
	Also, the shooter gave to a Biden super PAC.
	Yeah, that is very weird, isn't it?
	That speaks volumes to me because that's real.
	You're actually giving money to the thing.
	Red string Republican.
	What does that cost?
	Yeah.
	And it could easily be some sort of gambit.
	But you give money to people you actually genuinely want to support, don't you?
	Yeah, the revealed preference.
	That's a random name.
	Says, the strong and righteous become famous for great deeds.
	The weak and ignoble gain infamy through their misdeeds.
	Therefore, a society that does not keep ignobles in check is doomed to suffer their evil.
	Obviously correct.
	Very well put.
	OK, we got some written comments.
	I'll go through them.
	Sure.
	When I actually load them up.
	MC says, Magahat, Carl is the image.
	I didn't know I needed today.
	It looks great on you.
	Thank you so much.
	I did think that actually.
	It does suit you.
	I wish I'd had more sleep.
	I've got massive bags under my eyes because I got about 10 hours sleep over the weekend because flying on the plane, so I'm just shattered.
	Alexander says, ignore the calls by lefties for unity.
	There is no unity with them.
	Yeah, but it's important that they are suitably chastised by this, right?
	No, no.
	No, no.
	Joe.
	Joe.
	Dictator.
	Nazi Trump.
	But you hope he gets better, don't you?
	You hope he gets better and he's like, well, yeah, I have to say that.
	It's like, yes, you do have to say that.
	You know, you can see the sort of, like, shrinking in themselves at AOC.
	It's like, yeah, no, I hope the Nazi gets better.
	It's like, yeah, you do.
	You miserate yourselves.
	You hope he gets better.
	Say it louder.
	What was that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I hope he's great.
	Yeah, I agree.
	You know, like that's the thing.
	You've got to use these moral things as a weapon against them.
	So it's not about, obviously, unity with mutilating children or something, but they need to know their place.
	And their place is hunching down a bit.
	Like, yeah, this was bad for us.
	Pressed, fallen and defeated.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Josh from Wake Up For A Weekend Bender says, ironically, it goes on, but I'm not going to go.
	Ironically, if the shooter hadn't aimed so far left, he would have hit Trump.
	Good point.
	I'm sure that in the next couple of days and weeks we're going to find out more about this guy's social media history, personal life and stuff like that.
	I am genuinely curious.
	You know, okay?
	Mental.
	Almost certainly going to be a Never Trumper.
	That's what my money's on, right?
	I bet he'll be like one of the Columbine kids.
	Just a really, really angry, needlessly angry loser.
	He just got bullied so bad that he's Does something like this.
	There's not much more to it than that.
	I imagine.
	Rob says, a line has been crossed though, even more than with the assassination of JFK.
	We're in very dangerous times.
	If the shooter had succeeded, the American Cold Civil War would have got extremely hot very quickly.
	Possibly, I don't know.
	That's the thing.
	If this guy turns out to be a Republican, The Democrats could possibly say, well, it's not us.
	Janavi says, after talking about stochastic terrorism so often, I'm really surprised Destiny doesn't see it in this instance.
	Well, Destiny, again, he is just engagement farming.
	He likes to be a contrarian towards conservatives.
	Destiny doesn't like the far left, but he's comfortable attacking the right.
	He's like the shitlib.
	He wants to be the forever shitlib.
	So because in the sort of Jon Stewart shitlib position, you're never wrong.
	You're never actually in any danger.
	Nothing can really go wrong because all you're doing is attacking the people who actually do the right and responsible thing to make the world work.
	So they're never going to repudiate you on the ground.
	So you'll always be like, well, you know, you should have done better.
	And they'll go, yes, we were trying our best.
	We'll try and do better.
	It's like, ha ha, I'm going to make you look like a piece of shit now.
	And so there's never anything Evil under it right so destiny is like there's no there's never anything really bad that comes from it so destiny is moved into full shit-lib mode and Just ignore him.
	He's just he's literally just looking for attention destiny is actually shoot like a stupid person You know, we say this about all sorts of people.
	He's uneducated.
	Okay, let's say ignorant.
	Yeah, he's ignorant.
	A very ignorant person.
	Doesn't seem to have really any base of knowledge about the world.
	Watching him researching the Middle East, Wikipedia on a stream, it's like...
	He had to look up the name of the United States.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Yeah, he said, what's the actual proper legal full name of America?
	And he had to Wikipedia go, the United States of America.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	No way.
	There's a clip of that.
	It's mad.
	Would I be able to quickly say something about the use of the term stochastic terrorism?
	Because I can see it coming back to bite us a little bit.
	Obviously, in the situation of this, you know, the actual definition of it makes sense.
	But it seems to me that There's a potential here that it weakens the definition of what terrorism is by saying, well, if you criticize a group, then, you know, it could cause terrorism against them.
	And that sort of makes me a bit reserved about using it.
	That's not really what, honestly, we're not using it entirely correctly.
	So the way the left uses the term stochastic terrorism is to say that by demonizing a person or group in society, what you do is make random attacks on them more likely.
	And so you make society itself dangerous for them.
	And so an assassination attempt isn't really stochastic terrorism.
	It's obviously politically or emotionally motivated or whatever.
	Stochastic terrorism is meant to be based on identity characteristics and done anonymously, right?
	So, like, if you're constantly demonizing black people, then they will say, well, there's more chance that if you're a black person, just some random person in the street will shoot you or bully you or whatever.
	But that's not an act of terrorism, is it?
	No, no, I agree.
	But this is how the left defies stochastic terrorism.
	Of course, yeah.
	Spastic terrorism.
	Stochastic.
	But I think there is a genuine case to be made that the demonization of Trump has probably contributed to this.
	Almost certainly, yeah.
	It's inappropriate.
	MC says, Trump has been the face of the Republican Party for roughly nine years.
	If the shooter was 20, he has never known a Republican Party without Trump.
	I highly doubt a 20-year-old who hated Trump enough to shoot him would be a registered Republican in earnest.
	It's a good point.
	He's known nothing other than being told Trump is the devil.
	He hasn't known anything other than that.
	George says, one has to wonder why leftist politicians calling for violence for years are suddenly so nice.
	It's almost like they've realised if their project failed they could very well be the targets of retaliation.
	Well that's the thing.
	It's gone too far, right?
	There was always this background set of assumptions that, well, you know, we just all talk, you know.
	So yeah, I see you being like, oh, the patriarchy.
	Joe Biden, oh, Trump's a dictator.
	No one really thinks that.
	We're all supposed to believe that no one really thinks that.
	Then it becomes just rhetorical.
	But actually, I think they've whipped their base up in such a frenzy at this point that No, they're genuinely delusional, completely disconnected from reality, and have come to the point where they don't know the alternative because it's been going on for so many years.
	Like, say, nine years Trump has been the face of the Republican Party.
	Okay, he demonised someone for nine years.
	Someone who is now 21 doesn't remember a time when they weren't demonised.
	So no, I'm just being governed by Satan.
	It's just the case.
	Why wouldn't I, you know?
	Charlie says, we'll talk about stochastic terrorism tomorrow, probably.
	Oceana Gall says, evidence of divine intervention without a doubt.
	Well, I mean, that's definitely some people's interpretation.
	I say it's not without a doubt.
	Yeah, it could just be luck.
	Michael says, the shooter also happened to be wearing a Demolition Ranch t-shirt.
	Gun YouTube channel.
	Doesn't add up.
	I didn't want to mention that because I felt like it was a bit unfair on the Gun YouTube channel.
	Demolition Ranch is brilliant.
	I've not seen it.
	It's well good.
	Right.
	But that's interesting because the kid's a terrible shooter as well.
	Terrible shot.
	It's like.
	None of this really adds up, does it?
	Mason says F Destiny.
	Yep, don't worry about him.
	Maximum Toast says that was a pretty good shot.
	Roughly 150 yards missed by two inches because Trump suddenly moved.
	AR-15s are far from sniper rifles.
	This is a good shot for someone who isn't a professional.
	Fair enough.
	I don't know about that, but yeah, it's a fair point to make that some AR-15 platform isn't a sniper rifle.
	Yeah.
	Still, that's not a long distance, 130 meters.
	It's not quite blank, but it's not that far, really.
	Particularly when you're prone as well.
	Yeah, and it's a stationary target.
	Joe says, to be honest, climbing a 12 foot ladder, low crawling across a scalding tin roof on a hot sunny day, crest the rooftop knowing you have about three seconds to take the shot before receiving incoming fire.
	Wouldn't consider that an easy shot, even at 140 yards metres.
	Yeah, again, I don't think it's that easy either.
	I mean, I don't know if he had a scope or what, but like, I've shot plenty of guns and I wouldn't be confident doing that.
	I'm not a bad shot.
	If you're prone with a sniper and it's not a tin roof and a hot day...
	You're pretty much sorted, right?
	An amateur could do that.
	You've got loads of people pointing and shouting at you.
	Well, also the pressure of shooting.
	The pressure of the moment would be massive.
	Loads of people down there are yelling, going, hey, there's a guy on the roof, there's a guy on the roof.
	You're like, OK, I'm about to get shot.
	I know that he's going to have a sniper team of his own.
	I'm about to take something.
	So again, I actually think it's not a bad argument.
	It's not a bad shot.
	Gregory says, if you want to say Biden's bullseye remark is incitement, you have to admit that fight like hell you won't have a country anymore is equally inciting.
	Now obviously anyone with two brain cells knocking around will know these aren't, but you don't have to have two different stances.
	Well, I'm not saying that there are two different stances.
	I did say, well look, Trump has made inflammatory remarks of his own, right?
	But there is, I think, a Rubicon that has been crossed with Biden's rhetoric.
	I mean, literally calling Trump a dictator, the media regarding Hitler, like saying he is an attack on the soul and the essence of the country.
	It's like, Trump saying, look, they're taking, you know, the fight like hell easily and the Americans use the term fight a lot.
	Like, I'm fighting for this, I'm fighting for that, I'm fighting for equal wages, I'm fighting for LGBT rights.
	It's like, man, I'd be tired if I was an American.
	He must be eliminated, he can't be allowed to do that.
	Yeah, there does seem, I mean, I agree, I agree with what you're saying there, shouldn't hold two different stands.
	But I do feel the Democrat rhetoric was just above and beyond The word fight, though, specifically, is a very general term, isn't it?
	You can fight in all sorts of senses.
	AOC uses it all the time.
	But AOC was screaming it over and over again at one of her rallies, wasn't she?
	Yeah.
	So they use fight to just mean conflict.
	Eloise says, I just can't take Biden seriously, even when he's saying things I want to hear regarding sympathy for a rogue man who lost his life protecting his family.
	Yeah, I don't want to take Biden seriously.
	Colin says, I don't know if this will get mentioned, but this is what happens when you dehumanize your opponents.
	Yes, I agree.
	Because again, Trump can be like, OK, the Democrats are the enemy.
	But he's not saying the Democrats deserve death, basically, which is the message that the Democrats put out about Trump.
	And so I do think there is a different substantive meaning.
	We Lord Wu Tu Tai says the reaction to the shooting amongst my normie friends has been too bad he missed.
	No conception of the idea that this sets a dangerous precedent.
	Jesus.
	Sam says, with the attempted assassination of Trump, the hypocrisy of the Democrats calling for Trump to be stopped, then publicly saying the attempt on his life is an awful thing to do, and the insane reaction of leftists, everything that has happened really should prove to anyone with any sense there is at least some validity as to why Democrats can be accused of deliberately causing unrest.
	Yeah, I mean, like, there's another thing, like Maxine Waters and all that, you know, just being like, oh, we're gonna have constant Like, you know, harass them in the streets or in the restaurants or whatever.
	So this has been non-stop for years now, man.
	Well, I talk about the Roman Republic a fair bit in the parallels.
	You've got Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus and then other people like Salpicius, there was a tribune, Salpicius killed, beaten to death.
	Yeah, when they, if someone kills Trump, then someone shoots up a Democrat thing, then it's a tit for tat, and then you get mobs doing it to each other, and then Who knows what?
	You're really on a slippery slope at that point.
	This already happened.
	I think it was 2019 when Daniel Aronson was shot by an Antifa guy because he was wearing a MAGA hat or whatever.
	But it's already happened.
	It's just... Remember that baseball game someone shot up?
	Yeah, yeah, and then there was the, was it Scalise got shot in the baseball game?
	Yeah, that's what I meant.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I meant.
	Yeah, so it's not like there's, and that was, that was a Bernie bro.
	Yeah.
	So it's just, it's not like we're not already there.
	Trump would have, the assassination of Trump would have been a massive escalation of that.
	Which, I mean, a lot of people know, so, you know.
	Isaiah says, I find it very distasteful to label the shooter just some psychopath and loser.
	I understand that it's easier to believe that people who do evil things are soulless actors prepared to do such.
	The dude is just 20, lonely and lost enough to throw his future away.
	Could be any college-aged person today.
	Which is a fair point.
	We don't, I mean... No, no sympathy, no.
	He tried to do something absolutely evil.
	But the thing is, we don't know anything about it.
	Right.
	It might have been that he was given drugs and groomed by the FBI or something.
	So, you know, we don't know anything about it.
	You do have to remain responsible ultimately for what you do in this world though, don't you?
	Sure, but like you said, you're a kid who doesn't know anything.
	Yeah.
	But there is an argument to be made.
	Cenk Uygur had a good response to the attack.
	He even said that Trump looked badass.
	Yeah, we covered it.
	Paul says, is Wim Wim Trump?
	He comes out looking heroic, while the reaction of the left just makes him look like vile gutter Trump.
	Skip to the next ones.
	Hector says, Bo, how long have you been out of the game?
	What game?
	I don't know.
	Assassination.
	Agent 47.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean about 13 years.
	I've never actually been a professional assassin for the record.
	That's exactly what an assassin would say.
	That's my cover anyway.
	Yeah.
	Bain Scotti says, fun fact about Reagan's assassination attempt, the Secret Service agent who was credited with saving his life was convinced to pursue that career when he saw a film as a kid which Secret Service agent saved the US President from a shooting.
	In the film the actor who played the Secret Service agent was Ronald Reagan.
	Weird.
	Ronald Reagan saved himself really.
	There's a really great film called In the Line of Fire with Clint Eastwood and John Malkovich about assassinating presidents and things.
	It's very good, from the 90s.
	Watch that.
	Anne says, Bo, based on the way that you are describing some of the assassins, I hope you do more Epochs on them.
	Agent 47 doing a segment on assassinations, I know.
	Why?
	I've got people think I look like Agent 47.
	I completely forgot that.
	Right.
	OK, well, there we go.
	Eloise says the prefrontal cortex and development life experience.
	Teenagers are literally psychopaths on some level, like empathy, lack of empathy, pain, choice of fights to fight, which are actually moral and the right and just get street cred, et cetera, et cetera.
	Well, there we go.
	Political assassins and mass shooters and suicide killers are very, very, very rarely, almost never, but not never, women.
	There's that one woman, that girl, who shut up a school back in the 70s or early 80s, who said, I hate Mondays, if anyone remembers her.
	That's like the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
	I mean, we all hate Mondays, but Jesus Christ.
	Garfield didn't do that, did he?
	But there was the trans shooter as well.
	That was a female to male.
	So it was a biological... So it's not completely unheard of, but it's... Rare.
	Super rare.
	Anyway, there we go.
	Well, thank you very much for watching.
	Hopefully that was a historic podcast.

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