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April 12, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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	Music Oh, hello!
	I'm joined by Bo and Harry!
	Hi!
	For a podcast of The Lotus Eaters.
	You do know- I know you don't know what day it is.
	You never know what day it is, what podcast we're on.
	I don't know where I am.
	Yeah, I was gonna say, do you know what you're doing on a day-to-day basis, or a moment-to-moment basis, really?
	Because you don't sound like it whenever we start.
	Unironically, when we walked in, Bo asked me, what am I talking about?
	I said, I don't know.
	I've made a whole document, there's links, he's been working on it all morning and yeah.
	No idea.
	Well it says the cops are quitting.
	Are they?
	Jesus!
	That's yours!
	Say it ain't so.
	So we're talking about the cops quitting.
	What?
	I can't read that.
	Can you not read English?
	Letitia?
	Letitia.
	Black American woman name.
	Black American.
	Letitia James.
	Weaponized Lawfare.
	And Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul.
	Which I'm more excited about.
	I'll be honest.
	Because I want to see Jake Paul get his face smashed in.
	Bo started asking about the Paul Brothers' involvement in pro wrestling this morning, and it prompted me, well, not entirely, but it prompted me to go on a big thing about WWE, WrestleMania 40, everything that's been going on recently.
	If anyone doesn't know Harry's a massive wrestling fan.
	I don't keep up with the week-to-week, but I like to keep up with the big premium events that they do, because they're really fun.
	I used to love it when I was a little kid in the late 80s, and then again in the late 90s, but haven't watched it in 20 years.
	Well, I was educating Rory on all of the things that Mick Foley had put himself through over the years, like the unprotected chair shots to the head in 1999 from The Rock, him being put through the cell, and then Rory began saying, oh, you know what?
	I could look like Mick Foley if I put it a bit away, actually.
	And he's right!
	Yeah, I was a Mankind fan, for sure.
	Get Harry started on wrestling and That's it for an hour.
	Anyway, I have an announcement to make, which is that this Friday we're doing Lads Hour, and this one will be on inner monologues.
	And how none of us have one.
	No, this is Carl's thing, so he'll be talking about how women don't have one, so there we are.
	So do come and join, and that'll be tomorrow at 3pm British time.
	British Standard Time.
	Do you have an inner monologue, Carl?
	No, I just kind of really hate that we have British Standard Time and GMT and whatever.
	British Summertime, even.
	Jesus, it's not even standard.
	So, just to clarify, you don't have an inner monologue?
	No, I got one going on.
	It's just, you know, it's a monkey.
	Oh, away with the fairies.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Even having an inner monologue isn't great.
	Shouldn't you have an inner dialogue?
	Bo's got a little debate going on.
	For the last 40 years, Bo's got an entire Roman symposium in his mind at all times.
	I respect that.
	The Colosseum is taking debate.
	I've got my inner synagogue.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Right.
	All the cops are quitting, it turns out.
	And this is pretty bad for people who hate crime and dislike the crime.
	But for crime enjoyers, fantastic news boys!
	And if you wonder what the hell I'm talking about, it is this.
	This is a thing.
	So this is The Standard, some crappy outlet, reporting on a survey that was done of metropolitan police officers.
	And it says here nearly a third of Met police officers plan to quit within the next two years.
	And the guy in charge is like, well that's a bit concerning.
	Just a bit.
	Just say for anyone who might be foreign or from not London.
	The Met means the London police.
	Yes.
	But the survey was for English police, so it was all England and Wales.
	All England and Wales, okay.
	So the Met Police have responded to this, but it seems to be the case that basically everyone is like, hmm, this job sucks.
	I'm going.
	Yeah, I've got a friend in the police, I won't say exactly where, but I saw him quite recently and he said he's quitting soon.
	I asked him why and he said the police don't work anymore and there's a lot of new recruits that he's very unhappy with who don't do the job properly.
	I'm sure we'll find out why as we dig into the details.
	So they say 9 in 10 say that they feel worse off financially now than they were 5 years ago, and 22% never or almost never have enough money to cover essentials.
	Scotland Yard Chief Sir Mark Rowley, so this is the commissioner, the guy I took over from Miss Dick, said that his force is facing a deeply concerning shortfall in the official number of recruits, because they're not able to reach their targets, with public sector pay levels being the issue, he says.
	Now, my spidey senses immediately thought this is probably some kind of move to get more funding, because whenever I see a public body complaining about pay or the amount of funds they got, I just assume they're trying to get more.
	But, well, the more I dig into it, I might be right.
	So the workforce will now be 2,650 officers smaller by March 2025 than it is now.
	The reason this is a big shock is because the Conservative Party, when they came to power in 2019, promised an extra 20,000 police officers, and they were going to throw money at hiring police officers for that purpose, and the number has gone down, not up.
	And the reason being that literally just no one wants to apply.
	They're not interested.
	You go to them with a job opportunity and they're like, nope.
	Screw that.
	I've seen a similar thing in America.
	There's a problem with recruiting cops in America.
	And of course there's a parallel with the military as well.
	Yeah, and teachers and all sorts of things.
	Why would you want to serve a state that hates you?
	I think this is probably a big reason going into it.
	And so they say, according to the 2023 Police Federation of England and Wales Pay and Morale Report, published on Wednesday, 29% of Met Police officers responded saying they intend to quit the service within the next two years, or as soon as they can.
	So it might be even sooner.
	The survey based on about 6,000 responses, and 97% said they do not feel respected by the government.
	That's pretty high.
	84% said they would not recommend joining the police to anyone.
	Not good!
	So basically, all of them have no faith in the government that they're supposed to be representing.
	And basically all of them would say, don't join.
	Don't do it.
	Go do anything else.
	If those numbers were in a private company, you wouldn't really have a company.
	You would have a failed business adventure.
	Like right now, as I said yesterday, we have a failed state.
	Because I have some thoughts on this, because if it's that high, and they're saying within two years, and nothing's done to fix it, yeah, within two years you're going to find yourself absolutely buggered.
	You're just not recruiting new people and losing your old people in droves, rather than R.I.P.
	R.I.P.
	organization.
	So there's one comment in here that they plucked out from the survey, and it's from some random officer.
	He says, We need to revert to the time when being a police officer was a long-time vocation with decent paying conditions, not a short-term job where officers struggled to put food on the table.
	And this reminds me of when we looked at that Bulgarian woman, I believe she was Bulgarian, was serving as a part-time police officer.
	Do you remember this?
	Yes, yes.
	The one who, uh, there was some praying going on outside of a mosque and this was illegal.
	It was a church.
	Oh yeah, a church.
	Oh shit, sorry!
	Christian prayer, she was shutting down.
	Never Muslim.
	Outside of a Christian church?
	Yes, classic Bulgarian.
	Hates Christianity, okay?
	But the idea of even a part-time police officer and the reason she was doing this is because she gets a rail card so she can go on London Tube services for free and it's like, Right, that doesn't seem like a public service.
	This seems more like a gig economy.
	What are you doing this for?
	The love of law and authority and the rule of law?
	Peace?
	No rail card.
	No rail card.
	So they say here, Met officers and staff have recently had a 7% pay increase, but understand the cost of living has increased and other additional advice and support to officers who are struggling will be offered.
	That's their response.
	So the Home Office is saying basically we will, well we're giving them a 7% pay increase, what are you moaning about?
	They also then said that they don't believe it, which Good luck with that.
	So they're sitting there with the nothing will happen meme from the Home Office, which... Okay.
	So the Home Office is saying they don't believe the results of this survey.
	Yeah.
	And that there'll be a mass exodus of police officers in the next two years.
	They're saying trust us bro, but you also said you were high 20,000 more and you're actually losing them per year.
	So I don't know if I trust them.
	So they saw a large bird with its head in the sand and they thought to themselves, oh I wonder what's down there, I'll join you.
	Also, for anyone who doesn't know, the police come under the purview of the Home Office.
	So they're essentially, the police are essentially a wing of the Home Office.
	So they're responsible for it.
	There's something so terribly profoundly wrong at the heart of the Home Office, isn't there?
	It's no care given to the... It's like they're deliberately trying to tank the country, is what it feels like, isn't it?
	Because I think every political ideological position can agree, except the ANCAPs, that the Home Office, in the UK context obviously, is the most legitimate and important thing you can do, keeping the public safe from crime and terror.
	I mean, these are the two options it's got, keeping it safe from foreign and domestic enemies, fundamentally.
	And then you've got the military, of course, but...
	I mean, who disagrees with having an effective police force?
	Except, actually, the people in charge, it seems.
	And radical leftists, as well.
	You say it's just NCAPs, but let's not forget radical leftists think that applying and enforcing laws is racism.
	I wonder why.
	Absolutely correct.
	But I thought I'd have a bit of an investigation, because the focus of this article was largely on pay, which...
	Isn't what was in the comments.
	The comments was a bit more about the status of the role and the treatment you get.
	But, okay, we'll check the payout.
	So I've only got one data point I can compare like to like, and that's a sergeant in band two.
	Because I found this, and this is monthly pay, as you can see here, according to... I put this up from the police, and as you can see there's constables and then sergeant down here.
	So, band two was £43,000... £965,000 there.
	So, £43,000.
	£44,000.
	Round up.
	Why not?
	So, there we are.
	That's it in 2020.
	So, if we check inflation, just for a quick check, you can see from April 2020, if it went up with inflation, it would have to be £57,000 now, because inflation was 30%.
	So, that's just staying in the same place you were in real terms.
	Now, let's compare this to the rest of the country.
	So this is average weekly earnings in Great Britain, and this is the latest edition.
	If you scroll down on this, you can do this in your own time to compare your own pay or whatever, and you can go to whatever month.
	So if we go to April 2020 here, whatever that was, just gonna pass it, whatever.
	You can see a number, and then you plot in the number that is today.
	That gives you how much pay has changed for the average citizen of the UK.
	Now, of course, some people are better off, some people are worse off.
	So what's the situation with the police?
	Well, the average pay increase is about, what is it?
	25%?
	Something like that?
	So it means there's a real-term pay cut of a significant margin.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, so 24.9% raise, so a real-term pay cut on average of 5%.
	So the average person is getting a 5% cut.
	But if you load up, there should be another link in there, John, just before the ONS one, in which you should see that there's the modern figures for the police force.
	So, as I said, if they went up with inflation, it would be $57,000.
	If it went up with the average increase in pay over this time period, which is 25%, it would be close.
	I don't know, what, $50,000?
	I can't do the math in my head.
	So we go and check it out.
	Here's the police.
	Here's what they're offering.
	And then we go down to Sergeant Bantu, $49,000.
	Right, so that means that they're in a rise of 11%, so a real-time cut of 19%.
	So, the rest of the country is on a cut of 5%, a Sergeant at Band 2 is on a cut of 19%.
	Okay, I can see they're a bit niffed.
	Because their standard of living has gone down in real time significantly.
	There is also some detail here for London.
	They get some allowances.
	We've also got to say as well, comparatively to most people in the country, that's a relatively high wage.
	Because the average annual wages in this country are about £36,000 a year.
	For full-time work, it's around, I think it was 36 a couple of years ago.
	I don't know what it is now.
	Last time I looked, it was still around 36 for most people.
	Fantastic.
	So as you can see there, this is pretty good.
	But then again, you are a sergeant.
	I couldn't find for constable numbers, so they're like basic police officers.
	Sergeants, as I understand it, police watching will know better than me.
	This is not my subject.
	They're basically managers, in a sense, so they're managing a small team.
	So making sure professional standards are kept, they're working effectively, blah blah blah.
	So that's why it's a little bit more than you might think for the average worker, because it's not an average job.
	That's actually one of the higher ones.
	And then it goes up and up and up, obviously, as you get to the higher levels.
	But I wanted to keep it somewhere where I could, for the lower ends.
	So that's that.
	So yeah, I mean, they are worse off, not smallly either, like 19% worse off in real terms than they were four years ago.
	So, okay.
	I mean, it would make sense if it was readjusting to the role, like if they were overpaid in 2020 or something, which, I don't know, I kind of doubt that that was the case.
	Kind of seems like an important position that we want to keep at a professional level.
	Not that it always is anyway, but there we are.
	So, there we are.
	I think that that 84% saying they wouldn't recommend the job, though, it's not just about the pay.
	Maybe I'm wrong, but I've got a strong feeling it's not just this.
	Otherwise, why would you get the comments talking about the status of the role, how we're treated by the government?
	Yeah, I think there's a bit more going on.
	No, that is a devastating stat.
	Yeah.
	84% won't recommend it.
	We're always talking about the frivolous new laws that are being passed that criminalize just normal behavior in the UK.
	And I highly doubt that the vast majority of police officers out there join the force so that they could enforce hate speech laws on normal citizens who are part of the communities that they're intended to be protecting.
	They probably thought, I want to stop violent criminals, stop drug gangs, stop rape gangs, that sort of thing.
	Not knock on next door neighbor's house because they sent the spicy tweet.
	So, that guy I mentioned earlier, Mark Rowley, he's the commissioner for the Met Place.
	He replaced, of course, Miss Dick, that you may remember.
	If you don't remember her, she was the lady in charge of the London Police, and all you ever heard about her was the some new retarded thing the police were planning, and she would be the person to come out and defend it and say, it's fantastic, we're not going to change course.
	Whatever it was.
	I mean, there's just a billion news stories, so I'm not going to bring them all up.
	But this one here being a great example.
	So Miss Dick here, she says she favors minority recruits.
	This should be the law, she says.
	The law should be that you discriminate against whites.
	The reason being, according to her, is that it's the right thing to do.
	I'm convinced.
	So... What an amazing argument!
	Aristotle could not match such logic.
	Yeah.
	I hated that about the Cameron era.
	I don't know if you ever listened to David Cameron.
	He would always say that.
	The right thing to do.
	Why?
	We don't know!
	It's just BS.
	You just say it's the right thing to do, refuse to elaborate.
	Yeah.
	There are some details, though, as to why this law was proposed.
	So, more than 40% of London's residents are black Asian minority ethnic, compared to 18% of the Met's workforce.
	The Met wants to increase the intake to 40% of officers by next April.
	So this was back in What is this, 2021?
	They wanted 40% of their officers to become brown?
	Right.
	An aspiration of 8% from black backgrounds specifically.
	In case you're wondering, here's the stats.
	You can go find it.
	It's on the government's website.
	And it failed.
	Legally.
	Didn't work.
	So you can see here, there's two graphs.
	Population and police officers.
	So, who are the police?
	Well, they're overwhelmingly white people.
	This being basically English, not really Europeans.
	Unless you've got that Bulgarian lady.
	And then the people that are underrepresented in the police is everyone else.
	Every other racial group there.
	Not represented because they're not joining.
	So her solution was, well, make it illegal to hire white people, and therefore always hire the brown person over the white person because they've got brown skin, and this will make the country safer.
	No, it won't make it safer.
	Her position was actually that it would make it browner.
	That was her goal, as Commissioner of the Police, to make the police browner, not more effective.
	Didn't matter if they became less effective.
	And just net fewer number of police as well.
	It's a bargain.
	And those who are there are just diversity hires, literally just for the sake of it.
	Because the initial aim was 40%.
	You know it wouldn't have ended at 40% if they hadn't managed to achieve that in the first place.
	Do you remember a few years ago there was that, I think it was Channel 4, talking about their diversity hiring and how they were hiring something like 14% That was Mrs. Dick's actual proposal, and she enacted it, and what happened?
	Well, nothing, it turns out.
	Which is not nothing, though, because of course the effects of that on your staff is you're telling them that if you're white, you need to go.
	if it's above the initial thing.
	It's just to get rid of white people out of these roles.
	That was Mrs. Dick's actual proposal, and she enacted it, and what happened?
	Well, nothing, it turns out, which is not nothing, though, because, of course, the effects of that on your staff is you're telling that if you're white, you need to go.
	When that is 91.9% of your staff, it's not a great message to the workforce.
	Not very morale-inducing.
	Might be even demoralizing, wouldn't it?
	Yeah.
	This goes forward, though, because, of course, you try, you fail.
	Well, what do you do?
	Well, you declare that lewracism did this.
	So this is a HR mag called Personnel Today, which concludes that, well, that's because they hate brown people.
	That's why.
	That's why brown people aren't joining.
	Because you hate them.
	No one's joining.
	Why all brown?
	They're just leaving.
	That's the problem here.
	Well, like in America, there's obviously some sort of sustained, deliberate attack on the concept of police, right?
	Defund the police and all that sort of thing.
	With us over here, for any Americans watching who don't know, that for years now, there's been report after report after inquiry after inquiry, all concluding that the police are institutionally racist.
	One of the most famous, the Macpherson, following Stephen Lawrence, And so, yeah, well, of course that's going to demoralize them all, isn't it?
	If you're just repeatedly told there's something fundamentally at your very core, which is wrong.
	Well, yeah, because they always use that phrase.
	It's such a weasel word, the institutionally racist.
	Well, institutions are made up of individuals who operate them.
	So if you're saying institutionally racist, you're just pointing to all of the police officers and racism being synonym for evil.
	You're saying all of you are evil because you want to protect your communities.
	Fantastic.
	So when you check out all this, this is basically just some podcast that said the Trust Us Bro, we did a free from information request and found out the black applicants, for example, had a higher rate of rejection.
	Therefore, they hate black people.
	They didn't conduct anything further.
	They didn't say, well, why were those black people rejected?
	And then check that out.
	No, no, no.
	Just the lowest resolution possible.
	Black people are rejected at a higher rate than the white applicants, therefore racism.
	Quick, lower standards, lower standards everywhere!
	We need more blacks!
	It's the only solution.
	He came in high to the interview?
	Wow, he seems like a prime candidate.
	So funnily enough, the MediaStorm news podcast, I'm just declaring, shite.
	I don't even have to watch it.
	If that's your level of investigation, you are shite at being able to even investigate what's true.
	And they have a quote from here from this doctor, Dr. Pete Jones.
	And he says he's a psychologist who worked with the UK police forces on removing bias from recruitment.
	So he'll be one of the guys who was hired to implement the racism training, which they can't find in the system, but somewhere.
	He says that we can't keep pointing fingers at communities, but at some point we have to turn the mirror on ourselves and say, perhaps it's our systems that have done this.
	Which is just insane.
	I mean, I know he's literally getting paid to perpetuate the myth that everything in Britain just hates brown people and that's why they are not becoming police officers.
	I mean, that's his job.
	He just said that's what he gets paid to do.
	So, okay, he's going to give the party line.
	But it's just such obvious bollocks.
	Like, I'm sorry, I'm not going to sit here and be like, well, you know what?
	The black community are so full of just the most stand-up individuals who all want to become police officers and they're just keeping a brother down.
	They're just keeping a brother down.
	That's what's going on.
	This reminds me, I think right now there's a Channel 4 documentary that's being advertised, you may have seen going around the advertisements, where it's about the hardships of Britain's Asian community that they've experienced ever since they arrived.
	Just national front and rabid frothing racists just assaulting them in the street for no reason, no rapegate, no No reason, nothing to do with rape.
	And it's just blood libel against the British.
	So all of these people are just experiencing, they're going home and they're watching television and just seeing, you're racist, you're evil, you deserve what's coming to you.
	And then they go to work and they say, you don't deserve to be in the position that you're in.
	Of course she's going to go, I quit.
	I quit.
	I opt out of society because society doesn't want me anymore.
	Every signal that so many young white men especially are receiving in our society is we do not want you.
	We do not accept you.
	Fundamentally, you are burdened with original sin of racism and we do not want you in our society.
	So yeah, they're going to opt out.
	And when you get young white men opting out of a European society, what are you left with?
	Things are going to get a lot worse.
	There's another option, which is you can join the bastards who are doing this.
	Because as you can see here, personnel today like to advertise their jobs.
	You remember that pay from earlier?
	Well, there's a lot better pay than just being someone who sits around counting the races of your staff.
	Just saying.
	I mean, look at that.
	Why not join a local council?
	Get £400,000 backhand pension.
	Why do anything useful with your life when you can become an entrenched bureaucrat?
	76 grand to work for the police right there.
	You become a counter.
	Right, so that's that.
	But getting back to lesson learning though, because okay, you've got these problems, you've tried it, it failed.
	Okay, well Dick's gone, you've got the new guy.
	What's his opinion?
	His opinion is that you should shut up.
	Because...
	As you can see, this is an article from the BBC of him complaining, as he puts it, armchair commentators who film officers.
	And the specific complaint is that he's saying that he's angry that the officers are being filmed and then criticized on social media for breaking the law because this might put off further police recruits.
	Well, probably they should be, if they can't just be good police officers, because if you're being filmed and it's, you know, unjust criticism, that's one thing, but if it's just criticism, I think that's fair.
	And this all comes, this specific article comes, not from, oh I don't know, people testing cops by, you know, there's some YouTube channels that do this back in the day, where they'd go and take pictures of stuff, and perfectly legally, and quite often police officers would break the law and arrest them, and then get sued, and it was a way of testing the cops upholding the law.
	It's not like this.
	No, it's all to do with the Palestine protest.
	This is entirely what was spurred on by this.
	Because this guy, he's a good friend of ours, takes a lot of good pictures.
	He's just responded endlessly to the police lying with video evidence.
	So this one is them saying that, well, people were climbing, people, Palestine protests were climbing on the memorials, the war memorials.
	They say it's unacceptable.
	It's actually a crime.
	It's not unacceptable.
	It's 10 years in prison.
	You know, we passed that law a few years ago for this purpose.
	And as you can see, they say that Well, we regret that the officers on scene were not able to intervene.
	There's just no access to the memorial.
	And then our friend here is just like, here's the video evidence.
	Here's them climbing on the war memorial.
	And then you can see the police off to the side.
	He just pans the camera.
	I just... Cowards.
	They were not able to respond.
	Absolute cowards.
	They're there.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
	One, two, three, four, five, six.
	It's just a lie.
	Okay, this is what you're sad about.
	Here's another one.
	So this is the police saying here that this guy was arrested.
	And they say, no, no, no, no, no.
	He was arrested because we believed he assaulted someone.
	Not because he was holding a sign that said Hamas are terrorists.
	And then the video evidence is that no, he turned up with a sign that says Hamas are terrorists.
	The Palestinian guy started beating him up.
	So the police arrested him and said that he assaulted them.
	Which again, the video evidence is just there.
	You're just lying.
	It just goes on and on.
	There's some more.
	So he's complaining that they've lost control and the police have actually responded to him personally saying, we've not lost control.
	It's like, but everyone has eyes.
	We can see the footage.
	Stop lying.
	Uh, here's another one.
	So this is the police taking pictures with the Palestinians, which you're not allowed to do.
	It's just not professional standards, if nothing else.
	This can go next to my collection of London police officers kneeling at BLM protests.
	It can indeed!
	Because that's another example, and they say, well we encourage officers to be engaging and friendly with the public.
	It's like...
	No, though.
	No, you don't.
	At the Tommy Robinson rally, you wouldn't do such a thing, and you know it.
	And again, our friend is just like, fuck off.
	I don't even want to talk to you anymore.
	And this is when they're not just getting community noted for lying.
	So here's an example where they're saying that the word jihad has many meanings.
	You may remember.
	Hizb ut-Tahrir are a peaceful group, and the community notes are just like, no.
	What are you talking about?
	They're literally calling for the death of all non-Muslims.
	But the Metropolitan Police defended them.
	Yet why do you think your 91% white workforce are leaving?
	I mean, you are defending people saying they're going to kill them.
	On Twitter.
	I mean, when you're not just doing random stuff like this.
	So this is the police whining because that Bulgarian girl from earlier.
	And then they responded with the correct criticism of people filming her and then criticizing her.
	We're aware of significant social media commentary.
	Some of the comments are personal and hurtful.
	This is unacceptable.
	Come and arrest me then!
	Like, this is why I think on a fundamental level there's a reason the police aren't serious, and it's the ideological rot.
	And it manifests itself in these examples, the reason I'm showing them.
	If your intention were to basically destroy a country or a nation, if you were to undermine or ruin the very fabric of the society, of the social society, you would abolish borders and make the police completely inept or get rid of the police.
	Get rid of borders and police and it will very, very quickly... End up shit.
	Yeah.
	It's hard not to think it's very deliberate.
	Yeah, and the police seem to be on the public side at this point, with 97-98% of them saying, don't join, it's shit.
	Why?
	Because we don't get taken seriously by the government.
	None of the system works.
	And instead, this is what we look like now.
	Telling everyone to stop being so mean.
	I believe it was in the politics where Aristotle pointed out that one of the clearest signs of a tyrant is that instead of having his own people protect him, he will surround himself with foreigners for protection.
	So there we are, that's the police.
	They literally can't even get people to replace the ones who are leaving at this point, so that's not good.
	Let's go to the next segment.
	Oh, is there not one more?
	Don't worry about it.
	I've gone on for far too long.
	Oh, that's fair.
	Alright, so you were talking about the complete ineptitude of British law.
	Let's talk about how American law can be completely weaponized.
	And we know this because, you know, one of the main figures of this segment that we're about to talk about, Letitia James, is the Attorney General of New York.
	And she has been weaponizing lawfare for a while.
	She was the one who filed a lawsuit in 2022 against Donald Trump in the state of New York, where it's passed through.
	In February, the ruling came through and he was fined $355 million and barred from operating his business in New York for three years, I think it is.
	That's just punishment for paying back people who loaned him money.
	Yes, exactly.
	Very unfair.
	Don't you understand?
	New York business practice is if you borrow money from somebody, you don't pay it back.
	You don't know the rules of usury, Callum.
	Is she the DA?
	She's the Attorney General.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yes.
	And a while back now, it seems that she set her sights on a website, a rather controversial website called VDARE.
	Now, are either of you aware of this website?
	They are an anti-immigration website who have been sounding the alarm on America's immigration troubles ever since the late 1990s, started by a character called Peter Brimlow, who's an Englishman who moved to America decades ago, emigrated over there, and has been branded by all of the usual organizations, the ADL, SPLC, as a white supremacist, a white nationalist, because of the fact that he says that America used to be a real country, bro.
	Can we have it go back to being a real country and all of the establishment says no that they're not and he's platformed people like he's appeared on platforms with people like Jared Taylor in the past and they say that he's evil he's not allowed to have a voice and Letitia James has been filing subpoena after subpoena at VDare, his website, to bankrupt them to ensure that he cannot operate his own platform and give people with dissident views a voice.
	So he did speech.
	Yes.
	And she's decided that's a crime.
	Yes.
	I think that there was, it's kind of a little known document, a Bill of Rights, where it might be one of the first parts of it.
	The Constitution?
	The Constitution, yes.
	Not many have heard of this.
	It's forbidden knowledge in America.
	But this whole thing where you're not allowed to do that.
	You have to, Let people speak up and have their say, especially if you're able to independently fund it, for instance.
	He committed the ultimate crime, though, of noticing.
	It's a double whammy, noticing and then saying something about what you've noticed.
	Interestingly enough, one of the people who's most well known from VDARE is a man called Steve Saylor, who recently has a publication coming out, a book of a lot of essays that he's written called Noticing, where he talks about things like crime statistics and even going even further into the minutiae of having what he's discussing.
	I read an article of his talking about the George Floyd effect.
	Which was that after George Floyd's death was broadcast in the media and on social media, you see a massive uptick in the number of car crashes among black communities, specifically blacks in America.
	Presumably because of the fact that they weren't being policed as much on the roads because police officers were just afraid to pull over black suspects.
	There is another theory.
	Oh yes, go on.
	They also happened to go out with a lot of the stimulus checks.
	And there's this big bump in buying a certain kind of car, which I don't know anything about.
	Oh yeah.
	Apparently a lot of people decided to drive their cars because they liked that car rather recklessly.
	Yeah.
	So Steve Saylor and others who are professional noticers who go through professionally collected government statistics, which are broadcast publicly that you're able to find easily if you do a Google search, but you're not allowed to talk about.
	They're not just rabid, evil people who say, ah, crime statistics, we've got to kill them, we've got to kill them all.
	No.
	They're people who look into all of this and then suggest, here's some solutions to this.
	Why don't we apply the laws evenly?
	Why don't we apply the laws fairly?
	Why don't we look into the reasons for the culture that generates this behavior and try and fix it so that people aren't killing themselves on the roads, for instance?
	You know, evil white racist kind of things to do, holding people to standards, trying to build a society.
	Yes, like white supremacists do, right?
	Again, the crime really is noticing pattern recognition.
	You know, I think there's a moral equivalency between noticing patterns and, you know, lynching.
	Genocide, yes.
	Yeah, being sort of an Auschwitz guard or a Belsen guard.
	Do you know how Hitler started?
	He was looking through German crime statistics.
	Mein Gott!
	Don't do any!
	They're basically equivalent, you know.
	Yeah, so I'll go through the information.
	They put out this post saying that all of their resources are now focused on what they're describing as a death struggle.
	VDARE will continue publishing on a reduced scale as long as it can, at least until after our April 26th to 28th conference, but as Christ said on the cross, it is finished.
	They published an article about it that was linked on this, and I'll read through some of this.
	So it's Peter Brimlow himself talking.
	He says, I launched VDARE.com on Christmas Eve 1999, perhaps appropriate on Good Friday, that he has to announce the crucifixion, as he's dubbing it.
	By the Communist Attorney General of New York State, Letitia James.
	He says that they've been fighting her at a cost of up to one million dollars for nearly three years, but now they're literally hanging on the cross.
	And they point out they have not been charged with anything, because they are not guilty of anything.
	They say there is no legitimate explanation for her enormous fishing expedition, other than a desire to nail them on the cross with compliance costs.
	Uh, she was claimed to be interested in our purchase of a Berkeley Springs Castle, which I believe is in West Virginia, as a conference venue because I watched, interestingly enough, last night, Ora McIntyre hosted a discussion, an interview, with one of their contributors, who's a mutual of mine, Uh, called James Kirkpatrick, where he spoke a lot about this.
	So what happened was, VDARE years ago, over 2016 to 2019, were trying to host conferences, where they could have people come up and give speeches on particular subjects.
	Every time that they tried to get a venue for a conference, whether it be a hotel or anywhere else, they would get cancelled on.
	They started to add clauses into the contracts to say you will face a financial penalty if you cancel on us, but they would still cancel on them because of either media pressure or literally Antifa would just threaten the venues.
	they would get bomb threats.
	So they just had to cancel them.
	So instead they decided, well, let's get our own venue.
	So they purchased this castle, which was apparently a bargain deal for it.
	I really want to host more right-wing conferences and castles.
	I know!
	Brilliant idea!
	If you could, why not, right?
	And this attracted the attention of the New York Attorney General, and you would ask yourself, well, they operate in Virginia, the castle is in Virginia, why is it that this has New York?
	Well, in 1999, when they were listed as a non-profit, the lawyer filed everything in New York, which apparently puts it under her jurisdiction.
	So since then, because of the fact that they bought that castle, they've decided that they are going to throw subpoena after subpoena after subpoena at them without charging them with anything.
	Because all it means is that you have to release information that's otherwise anonymous or confidential to her office, which then gets leaked out.
	And they're worried... Well, obviously, this is a costly process.
	The most recent one, they say, would cost up to about $150,000, because they not only have to release financial information, but also emails.
	As part of this, and they have a lot of anonymous writers who are part of, say, the Border Patrol, and also part of departments in the U.S.
	government who want to write on subjects without having their identities out there, because what they're saying about them might cost them their jobs and actually put them in danger.
	They don't care!
	The Attorney General's Office in the U.S., in the New York State, do not care, and they want to have this information so it can be leaked accidentally, sure, it was just an intern, and ruined them both reputationally by saying, if you write for this website, your name, if you're trying to write anonymously, will be leaked, or they just want to financially ruin them.
	And it seems that they are financially ruining them.
	So they say in here, on March 27th, 2024, in another of her lightning fast compliant rulings, New York State Supreme Court Judge Sabrina Krause held us in contempt of court because we have not yet complied because we were fighting it with her January 2023 order where we meet James' massive and crippling subpoena demands.
	Judge Krause did modify her earlier order to reflect the intervention of the Institute for Free Speech.
	So now we no longer have to reveal explicitly the names of our pseudonymous writers, some of whom would certainly be fired from their jobs if their identities were leaked.
	But we are still now required to review 40 gigabytes of emails, an enormous amount, and of course these could in fact reveal the names of those pseudonymous writers anyway.
	So they don't have to explicitly reveal them, but if they hand over all of these emails, well the names might be in there anyway and they'll get leaked.
	As well as our donors, privileged communications with lawyers, etc.
	Judge Krause also now allowed us to redact these emails, but this is a huge task which our lawyers estimate could cost us as much as $150,000.
	An observer tells us this order is more typical of major corporate litigation, not a tiny charity, and perversely, although Judge Krause has now modified her January 23, 2023 order, she is nevertheless now fining us $250 a day for not complying with it.
	So, no legal charges brought against them.
	No legitimate reason for doing this.
	They just found an opportunity to financially ruin them through lawfare.
	This really makes me think about the United States.
	The only way to operate there seems to be...
	If you're going to have political opinions at all or even want property rights, you have to be somewhere as red as Florida and just move wherever that sort of control and defense is.
	Well, they're in Virginia, but this was simply because of a legal loophole because of where the documents were filed by a lawyer when the website started in 1999.
	They didn't predict that this would happen.
	Yeah, I get this.
	Or that they would have Letitia James on their back trying to rabidly destroy them.
	What about Mexico then?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Genuinely, this is awful.
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	And for Peter Brimlow, once again, if you go on his Wikipedia, you see that he's listed with all of the same titles that you would expect of someone who says, hey, maybe America shouldn't just be a pit stop for the third world.
	American white supremacist writer, anti-immigration website associated with, that's a nice weasel word right there, associated with, which means we've not really got any evidence of it, but we want to assert it anyway.
	White supremacy, white nationalism, and the alt-right.
	And what does it say in his views and publications?
	Let's read what kind of things that he has to say.
	Brimlow opposes both illegal and legal immigration despite having immigrated to the United States himself.
	Oh my god, an Englishman immigrating to the United States?
	That's unheard of!
	And has referred to Spanish-speaking immigrants as completely dysfunctional.
	He said California used to be a paradise but was rapidly turning into a Hispanic slum.
	This is just As far as I can tell from everything I see.
	Correct.
	Noticing 101.
	Yep.
	Brimlow has been described as, by who, a white nationalist and white supremacist.
	In 2020, he tried to sue the New York Times for labeling him a white nationalist.
	In 2022, he called for a reversal of Brown v. Board of Education, a 1954 Supreme Court decision that directed an end to segregated schools.
	Now, some people- So did all the critical race theorists.
	Well yeah, some people might disagree with him on that, but like you say, the critical race theorists don't.
	And even if you read somebody who's kind of, not mainstream right, but not far right, certainly Thomas Sowell, in a lot of his writings talks about the absolute disaster for black education that was the bussing program that came out of Brown v. Board.
	So this is not necessarily a controversial view, unless of course you want to brand somebody a dissident, a white supremacist.
	Because there's one thing, isn't there, the end of segregation and then a different thing is forced integration.
	Like what happened at Little Rock, for instance, where they literally sent the US government army to point guns at white people to force the integration.
	The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Brimlow's website VDARE as a hate group that was once a relatively mainstream anti-immigration page, but by 2003 became a meeting place for many on the radical right.
	The SPLC also criticised V-Dare for publishing articles by white nationalists, Jared Taylor and Sam Francis.
	It's been called white nationalists by the Rocky Mountains.
	Once again, all of this just not actually referring to anything from the website, any of their views, just here's a load of third parties who are politically compromised, saying that they're evil.
	I also thought Jared Taylor was a Japanese man, because he was born and raised in Japan and speaks fluent Japanese.
	He was raised in their culture.
	Actually, his first book was about Japanese culture and how much he appreciated it.
	So, I mean, so he's pretty integrated to me.
	Average Japanese man.
	It has also been described as white supremacist.
	VDARE has also been described by the Anti-Defamation League as a racist anti-immigrant group.
	The book Anti-Immigration in the United States summarized Brimlow's position as being that whites had built American culture and should defend it against non-whites who would try to change it.
	I don't know because I haven't read the guy, but assuming, to be honest, if he's an English guy, he probably isn't actually even in the realm of whites versus non-whites.
	If you actually talked to him, I reckon he'd be like, well, not the French.
	Like this is the thing about English people, we don't usually default to this because we know that white in America actually means Anglo-Saxon usually.
	It's the reason that the term wasp as well.
	Yes, I mean there is the... Just assuming.
	There's the Anglo-Saxon founding stock of America, which is the Anglo-Saxons and some of the Scots and Celts as well.
	The reason they're part of the Anglosphere, not the Francophone.
	Yes, but once again, the point of this is not necessarily whether you agree with him or not, it's whether he should have the right to have a platform for his own views, which the New York Attorney General's Office has decided no.
	No, you don't.
	I thought they had freedom of speech over there.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	I thought this was America.
	I'm sorry.
	I thought this was America!
	She's clearly a partisan.
	Isn't there a video of her a few years back just openly saying, I'm going to get Trump.
	Yes.
	That's her, right?
	It's the same woman?
	I believe so.
	We'll find something on him.
	We'll get something on him.
	We'll do trumped up charges on him somehow.
	Well, that's not the law.
	The law should be blind.
	That's a vendetta.
	From the American conservative they have some quotes as such so they say her electoral platform was built on this very promise she vowed to shine a bright light into every dark corner of Donald Trump's real estate dealings just like she promised to take tougher legal action on organizations that engage in online hate speech against protected classes.
	Except James cannot actually take legal action against Vidar for their hate speech against protected classes because, as they point out, and as we've pointed out, it's protected under the First Amendment.
	So she can't actually bring, again, any legal challenges to it other than just saying, we're just going to keep subpoenaing you because it costs a lot of money to deal with legal challenges.
	The thought process is obviously, how can we subvert the system to destroy them anyway?
	And in here they point out that, you know, in New York and other places, it's not exactly like other places don't do something similar.
	So American Institute for Economic Research has a mansion.
	Aspen Institute has a ski resort.
	BLM bought mansions.
	They don't care about that.
	They're not subpoenaing BLM anytime soon.
	The Aspen Institute is not going to have people digging into their records for three years over their ski resort.
	It just gets targeted at dissidents.
	That's all it gets targeted at.
	The legal case against VDARE's castle now appears to hinge on whether or not the founders of VDARE use it as their own personal dwelling, which they don't.
	Funnily enough, I don't want to live in a bloody castle.
	Oh, I do.
	I'd love to live in a castle.
	Yeah, you would.
	And again, James Kirkpatrick in here talks about what is actually going on was that the first few requests for subpoenas that they got came from the Hate and Bias Prevention Unit.
	Couldn't make it any more subtle, could you?
	Couldn't have just had it from NOT the Hate Crimes Unit?
	Could it have just gone like, do we have a financial team that we can get these sent in from if that's what we're looking into?
	No, no, it's the Hate Crime Division.
	Like the Simpsons.
	You know the vans are always named something weird whenever it's the CIA and the Simpsons?
	Oh yeah!
	Actual ice cream vans.
	Stuff like that.
	Totally a pizza place.
	I'm surprised it's not the other way around.
	They don't call it the Ministry of Love.
	Yeah.
	Like in 1984, like the Committee for Love or something like that.
	Yeah, I suppose so.
	Rather than hate.
	And this has been getting about a little bit though, because even the SPLC had to speak about how Tucker Carlson spoke to Peter Brimlow's wife, Lydia Brimlow, who spoke about this whole situation.
	And of course they present it as this.
	Tucker Carlson, platforms, white nationalist on X. No, he speaks to somebody who's being persecuted by the state.
	and denied her free speech rights.
	That's what's actually going on.
	But the SPLC are an evil organization who hate America.
	That's the split.
	Tucker's basically evil at this point, right?
	Again, there's no sort of moral distinction between sort of the leader of a KKK chapter and a monster like Tucker Carlson who would platform All I'm saying is, have you ever seen Tucker Carlson and a KKK leader in the same room at the same time?
	No.
	They're four of the same people.
	It's all the same person.
	Exact same person.
	Grand Wizard Tucker confirmed!
	He's gonna come on into one of his interviews accidentally wearing the hood and go, oh no, I forgot to take it off!
	Sorry, can we start?
	Oh, we're live?
	Oh no.
	That's just my head warmer.
	Let me just warm myself with this tiki torch I've got here.
	I mean, come on!
	That would be a good sketch.
	Come on!
	Just do it, Tucker.
	It'd be funny.
	Just for the troll, do it.
	And Matt Walsh has spoken about it as well.
	So it's good that people are starting to highlight this, but the thing it highlights as well as the fact that obviously the regime is completely against any form of dissident speech is that the US legal system is now so compromised to the point that you do not even have to have any charges against an organization or an individual To find legal ways to screw with them and bankrupt them and tarnish their reputation.
	That's all you need is any loophole to get a subpoena in there and you are screwed because dealing with any kind of legal difficulties is expensive.
	And so, I don't know if VEDA have a way to donate to them if you want to try and support, even if you don't agree with them, if you want to try and support independent dissident speakers in America who actually care about the state of the country and where it's going, maybe find some way of supporting them.
	Or, I guess the AG is an elected position, fund one of her opponents who isn't an open leftist partisan.
	That might be harder, I'll be honest.
	Yeah, but do try.
	Yeah, it'd be nice if, we've talked about this before, if Elon could do a reverse George Soros.
	Be a bizarro George Soros and just fund loads of... Right-wing DAs.
	Yeah, not even right-wing, just reasonable balanced ones.
	Or right-wing, that'd be good.
	Non-insane people.
	Yeah.
	People that aren't... America's running out of those.
	People that aren't committed to destroying, again, the fabric of society.
	Anyway, there we go.
	Let's move on to the fight.
	All right.
	Can you scroll down on the thing on the page for me so I can see the...
	Keep going.
	Tiger's got kids out.
	Mike Tyson's going to beat it out of him.
	All right.
	So I thought I would talk all about, finally, talk all about the upcoming Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul fight.
	Something a bit light-hearted after your two very heavy segments.
	I usually do sort of political heavier segments, but I thought for once I'd do something a bit more light-hearted.
	It's not for ages.
	I think it's scheduled to be in June or July.
	That's so much time that it might not even happen for various reasons.
	We've seen that there was talk that Jake Paul got injured, but that doesn't seem to be true.
	Yeah, you were going to talk about this sooner, but there were rumours going around.
	Are those rumours now, like... It seems it's all back on, yeah.
	Oh, okay, alright.
	Seems to me.
	So, I like all sorts of sports.
	Almost anything, really.
	You know, I'll watch... I'll watch... Darts?
	Darts.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	A regional Kabaddi championship I would watch.
	The hell is that?
	Kabaddi?
	Look it up.
	It's an Indian... What are you looking at me like, oh, you know what kabaddi is?
	Who doesn't know kabaddi?
	Looking down from his high horse, what a peasant!
	No, in India, it's a massive thing.
	But don't worry about it, you don't need to know what kabaddi is.
	Bo and the other aristocrats, they don't know what kabaddi is.
	Oh, it's the furthest thing from aristocratic kabaddi.
	Oh, OK.
	Anyway.
	No, I watch snooker or golf.
	I can believe that.
	I like all sorts of sports.
	Well, I mean, somebody's got to be watching it, so why not you?
	I like fighting, love boxing, love MMA, all sorts of stuff.
	Have you ever watched BJJ stuff?
	Anyway, and I don't mind a freak show as well, and that's what this is.
	I also take a trip to the circus every now and again.
	Just to look at the midgets in their little cages.
	You're going to.
	Abuse the midgets.
	Throw rotten vegetables at them.
	Have you seen the midget land in China?
	No.
	You'd fit right.
	There's a castle.
	Oh yeah.
	He rings up Warwick Davis, doesn't he?
	And annoys him.
	Yeah.
	You'd fit right well in here.
	They've got a king who's in charge.
	Really?
	No.
	He's not anointed by God, oh.
	Sadly.
	Anyway, you were saying, sorry.
	There's been a rise in freak show fights in the last few years, right?
	Even Conor McGregor versus Mayweather.
	It's like the boxing purists would say that's not, you know, that's not proper.
	It's not proper boxing.
	But I don't care.
	I don't care about any of that.
	I want to see a man fight a lion!
	Bring back the Colosseum is what we're saying.
	I'd like to see a lion versus a bear.
	Jake Paul versus Hippo.
	He's just dead, isn't he?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, hippos are extremely dangerous, yeah.
	Even if you've heard of Butterbean, have you ever heard of that?
	It's a bit of a name.
	Just a ridiculously fat guy.
	It's just a freak show in every fault.
	And if he didn't knock you out with one of his haymakers in the first round, that was...
	So what we're suggesting now is just throw fat people in with various wild animals, see who comes out on top.
	But let's get this on screen, because just the image itself is striking.
	This image gives me real, now kiss vibes.
	They always do.
	There's a weird romance in the air, wouldn't you say?
	Star-crossed lovers.
	Not with Mike Tyson.
	I'm not saying that Jake Paul's going to be into it, but that's never stopped Never mind.
	It's going to be on Netflix.
	So it's not... And it's probably going to be on... What?
	I said I wouldn't mention anything, so I'm sorry.
	I want you, and I'm going to have you.
	Do this the easy way or the hard way?
	Jake Paul gets... No, no, that's... ...tailed.
	Is that a quote from the jail?
	You don't know about the booty warrior?
	No.
	It's this black guy in the United States in the prison system and he does this whole documentary and he's still like documentary team comes to make a thing about prisons and this guy just keeps talking about booty.
	The value of booty.
	Man's butt.
	This sounds very Purple Ackie.
	Yeah, he literally says in there, I'm a warrior.
	Well, Mike Tyson did go to prison.
	He's a convicted rapist, isn't he?
	So maybe Mike does know a little about that world.
	Can we say that?
	Is he?
	He's a convicted rapist.
	He is actually?
	He went to prison for it.
	Yeah.
	Maybe he is a booty warrior.
	Yeah.
	So Jake Paul, YouTuber Jake Paul, is fighting convicted rapist Mike Tyson this summer.
	That's how they're billing?
	YouTuber versus racist.
	Sorry, rapist.
	Racers would be funnier!
	But it is going to be on Netflix, and it's going to be an exhibition almost certainly, so it's not a proper professional fight.
	There was talk that they were going to wear head guards and stuff, apparently that's nonsense.
	There's all sorts of talk flying around that Jake Paul is going to tag himself out.
	And what's his brother called?
	Logan Paul.
	Logan Paul's also a boxer.
	I'd say all of this show stuff is probably been spurred on a little bit by all the YouTube boxing events that went on where people like Jake Paul decided he was going to start being a boxer and it started to make more money than people expected.
	So yeah, why not get a YouTuber on with a boxing legend?
	So only a few years ago, you didn't really have this, that celebrities would have boxing matches and things.
	But now it's a thing.
	Go on, don't leave us hanging.
	Someone in the chat is just like, racist versus rapist.
	I would watch that.
	And then I thought in my head, you know when you see like the World Cup and there's 12 different teams and they've got to fight to see who's going to win?
	We just have different categories of like crime.
	Hate speech versus rapist.
	Oh, the rapist won that one.
	Weird.
	So the biggest thing is that Mike Tyson's 31 years older than Jake Paul.
	So that's the big takeaway thing.
	Now, everyone's got an opinion on this.
	Honestly, anyone that knows anything about fighting, they've been asked about it.
	So I'll leave my predictions till the end.
	But there's just a massive range of people, different people's opinion.
	On one end of the spectrum, some are saying that Jake Paul is out of order for beating up an old man.
	He's going to beat up an old man.
	He's out of order for that.
	I mean, Mike Tyson's not any... I had that in the spot.
	Oh, sorry.
	I was going to try and find just a picture of Jake Paul.
	There we are.
	So we had some image.
	It's back to where it is.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Trust me, it is.
	OK.
	All right.
	And on the other end of the spectrum, it's like Mike's going to knock him out in eight seconds.
	Like, Jake Paul must be mad to step in the ring with the phenom that is the knockout machine that is Mike Tyson.
	So everyone has got an opinion on it.
	So anyway, I think it's interesting.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	Just for the record, I don't particularly like Jake Paul.
	Not many people really do, I think.
	He's a very controversial figure.
	He's alright.
	I don't hate him.
	I don't know the specifics anymore, but there was a few years ago, all of the YouTube drama channels like H3 and people like that were making videos on the Paul Brothers and all of the various scams that they were involved in.
	Yeah.
	Because they have been involved in a lot of scams over the years, like promoting what are essentially gambling sites to children.
	Oh right.
	I think one of them, was it Jake Paul that went to the Suicide Forest in Japan?
	That was Logan.
	That was Logan, okay.
	Yeah.
	Right, anyways.
	That's how I learned about him.
	So I don't hate the guy.
	He's actually, where I've watched probably more content in the last week or two or three for this than I've ever watched before.
	And he's actually an alright dude, but I'm not a fan.
	And loads of people love Mike Tyson.
	I don't particularly like Mike Tyson either.
	He's always seemed like a bit of a bully.
	And a cheater quite often.
	He bit off Holyfield's ear.
	A bit of Holyfield's ear.
	And there's other fights where he got disqualified for fouls and stuff.
	So yeah, I'll probably piss off loads of Titan fans by admitting that I don't love the guy.
	uh but but there you go so Jake Paul did a promo video and it's one one of the bits in it where it's sort of he's being most honest about everything so if you want to play this little clip years ago when i met Mike Tyson at his ranch and we're here Tyson Ranch about to meet the legend i'm a little nervous you know i've watched Mike growing up so uh This is cool.
	It's cool to be here.
	Look at this stuff.
	These are Mike Tyson's gloves right here.
	Jeez, these are the ones, I think, in the video where he's just eating people alive.
	How much do you think we could sell these for?
	So, am I scoring Mike next, sir?
	No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, sir.
	I'll play Mike in chess.
	Or something that doesn't involve physical contact.
	It was all going great.
	I was meeting my childhood hero for the first time.
	What's up, Mike?
	Hey, Rob.
	How are you, man?
	Mike's loving it, huh?
	Good to meet you.
	And then, he said this.
	I'm Jake.
	I'm Jake.
	Did you hear that?
	I mean, people, imagine meeting your childhood hero for the first time and they call you your brother's name.
	We don't even fucking look alike!
	And ever since that day, Ever since that day, Mike, I've wanted to knock you the fuck out.
	I'm just kidding.
	In all seriousness.
	So I thought that was kind of funny.
	He is a funny guy, Jake Paul.
	But yeah, he obviously looks like everyone else that grew up in our times, regardless of his He's a well-documented sex crime.
	Mike Tyson was, is, you know, one of the best to ever do it.
	Back in the 80s and 90s, he was incredible.
	His knockout power was absolutely incredible.
	So we'll see what happens.
	There is another clip there, if you just want to play it on mute.
	I want to talk a little bit about Jake Paul.
	I think he's quite, he's legitimate really.
	I mean, that's Anderson Silva, one of the great, he's not a boxer, but he was a UFC champ.
	Again, a great, great fighter.
	And Jake Paul knocked him out.
	This guy's quite a recent fight, actually.
	Anyway, the point is, is I think Jake Paul's probably roided up.
	I hope he doesn't take me to court for libel over that.
	But he's fairly roided up.
	He's a big bloke.
	He's like 200 pounds.
	I mean, he's got a big back, big shoulders, big arms.
	He's heavy.
	He's got heavy hands.
	And he's quite good at boxing.
	You've got to admit it.
	First time I admitted that to myself was when he knocked out Tyrone Woodley.
	Tyron Woodley.
	He knocked that guy out cold.
	Sweet uppercut there.
	Well, not cold, but anyway.
	He knocked Tyron Woodley out cold.
	Tyron Woodley, again, a UFC champ.
	This isn't my zone, but I think iDubbbz said something right about this.
	The celebrity boxing though, gets a bit... This guy's a chump.
	It's less... It's entertaining for the boxing fans, but it's less entertaining for everyone else.
	Right.
	When that celebrity just gets to be shown that they're actually good at boxing.
	Right.
	Because now they're just a boxer.
	There's no mystery of like, is he any good or is he shit?
	Well, that's the thing that I do find, as much as personally, I don't like them very much, there's the one thing you've got to give to the Paul brothers, is that they are actually quite good at what they do.
	When they go into something, like boxing, or like Logan Paul has gone into wrestling, professional wrestling, they're very good at it.
	Now, I'm not as well... Yeah, I've seen Logan Paul do some high-risk manoeuvres off the top rope, and it's actually impressive.
	Logan Paul got into boxing first and then moved into WWE, kind of basically like stunt casting for it.
	But he's genuinely very good at it, and he's currently the US Champion at WWE.
	There he is.
	And yeah, at Royal Rumble last year, he had the show-stealing moment, which was a really big high-flying move he did against another guy, where they collided mid-air after jumping off the top rope.
	So, whatever you want to say about the guys, they're genuinely quite athletic, very good at what they do, and anybody who has the guts to step into a ring where you're going to be taking physical punishment, the way that you do in boxing or professional wrestling, earns a certain level of respect from me.
	Yeah, no, sure.
	I mean, he's got a bit of a chin as well.
	When he fought Tommy Fury, the only proper fight he's lost, and it went the distance, he lost on points.
	Tommy Fury caught him with a few big shots.
	and Jake Paul took him so he's got a chin and I mean he's yeah you can't really deny at this point that he's at least at the very least an okay boxer that he would he can outbox UFC champs the thing is is he going to be any good against an out and out boxer you know um and so people have been have been saying for ages let him fight an actual boxer
	And the last fight he had was against one, was a guy, Ryan Burland, who's had 20-odd professional fights and was a half-decent professional boxer.
	And he knocked him out in the first round.
	Totally dominated him, really.
	Was there another age gap, or were they about equivalent?
	Yeah, roughly equivalent.
	So, I think it's fair to say that Jake Paul, again, at least, is a competent boxer.
	Right, now, Is that enough to stand up against Iron Mike?
	Even if Iron Mike is now 57, right?
	I think he'll very nearly be 58 by the time the fight takes place.
	Oh look, Out Cold.
	Was that KSI?
	Who was that?
	Just, yeah, completely out cold.
	He's got heavy hands, right?
	And the thing is, when you get up in the 200 pounds heavyweight type stuff, you kind of need to be able to knock someone out.
	And a lot of what's going on on social media at the moment is showing, oh, Ben Askren, who was Famously, maybe a bit much, but in UFC, another UFC fighter, was crapped with his hands.
	So again, Jake Paul detractors can say, look, he's not fighting anyone really good.
	He's done quite a few more fights than I remember.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But he sparks Askren out.
	Well, TKO anyway.
	But people are saying that they'll show you clips of Mike Tyson sparring or training and Jake Paul sparring and training and it is sort of chalk and cheese.
	Mike's still sort of a big, big heavy hitter.
	There you go.
	Good night, Ben.
	Actually, can we can we play the clip of it says Training, towards the bottom, one that just says training.
	This is Mike Tyson doing some training.
	And now, it's a cliche that the last thing as a fighter that goes is your power.
	You want this one?
	Yeah, yeah.
	The audio, if there's any, if we can do the audio as well.
	Just play.
	Okay, fine.
	Well anyway, he's still got fairly fearsome power.
	I mean, every single one of those punches I would just be waking up in a hospital like a week later, right?
	He's terrified to be the guy with the pads, surely.
	I wouldn't want to be that guy.
	Especially getting him up against the ropes as well.
	But the thing is, I'll say, this is my take, which I've not seen many people saying, is that sparring is not the same as being in a fight.
	It's like maybe being really good at kick ups, but you're actually crap in a football match.
	Or you're great at the driving range, but you're not competitive on 18 holes of golf or something like that.
	You're very quick on one lap qualifying, but when you go in a race, You're not competitive.
	Looking good in sparring doesn't necessarily translate into you're going to do very well in a fight.
	But there's no doubt that Mike Tyson's still got the power.
	Has he got the speed?
	That's the thing I am concerned about.
	from Mike Tyson because he always had the power.
	I watched something the other day, it was when he was 15 years old and he knocks the guy out straight away, the other kid, just completely.
	He's always had crazy power and crazy good technique as well.
	He's still got that.
	It's sort of muscle memory.
	You don't sort of forget that.
	You don't forget how to ride a bike, even if you're knocking 60, right?
	So he's got great skills, pretty good movement, but is he fast enough?
	Now, Being an Englishman, I was always a fan of Frank Bruno and then Lennox Lewis.
	Well, and then Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury.
	But when I was growing up, Lennox Lewis was the man.
	We always wanted Lennox Lewis to be the world champion.
	And he fought Tyson.
	Did he fight him twice?
	Yeah, he did fight him twice.
	Mike Tyson's... It wasn't his last fight.
	He had a couple of other fights which he lost.
	Towards the end of his career, he fought Lennox Lewis for the title and lost.
	That was in 2002, and he was slow.
	20 years ago, Mike Tyson was a bit slow.
	Right?
	So, he's still got the power, but is it, if he doesn't, if he can't clock Jake Paul squarely, and Jake Paul's got a bit of a chin, whether he's got a chin that can stand up to Mike, even 57-year-old Mike, you know, probably not, but I think if Jake Paul wins, it'll be because Mike's too slow now.
	And this sparring stuff, it's not that it doesn't count, but it's...
	It's not a fight, right?
	Like you say as well, it's also the distance between a sprint and a marathon.
	Because depending on how many rounds you end up going, if you can't get that one knockout hit, you get... 57 is not mid-20s anymore.
	It's not even early 30s.
	He's gonna tire out potentially a lot faster than he is.
	30 years age difference between a young man and Also, the whole thing of getting gassed, running out of gas, or just your cardio.
	Mike Tyson never had a great reputation for endless cardio.
	Did he not?
	Definitely has probably an edge on him right there, unless Mike is as superhuman as some would suggest that he is.
	No.
	Also, yeah, the whole thing of getting gassed, running out of gas or just your cardio.
	Mike Tyson never had a great reputation for endless cardio.
	Did he not?
	No.
	No.
	Whereas Jake Paul, I've never, that's not one of the things anyone ever says about him.
	That, oh, how embarrassing Jake Paul got gassed in the third round.
	No, he's young.
	I think, what is he?
	Is he 30 or very late 20s?
	31, something like that?
	I don't know what he is.
	He's like 26, 27.
	Yeah, he's late 20s, that's right.
	Yeah, he's late 20s.
	So it's not really going to be an issue for him, I wouldn't have thought.
	But yeah, I mean, can you play that other clip just above it?
	The You're Unreal prick one.
	Yeah.
	There's just a thing, one other thing I want to say about Mike Tyson.
	Why I'm not, I don't particularly like Mike Tyson.
	Here's him doing an interview with someone years ago.
	No, no, we need to hear him speak.
	You know you're a real prick though, right?
	What's that?
	You're a real prick.
	You've hit me with all these disgusting pictures.
	Oh, no, but if you don't want to comment on it, don't.
	I will comment on it, but you're a prick.
	No, I'm just trying to... If you don't want to comment on it, you don't have to.
	I am going to comment on it, but you're a prick.
	You get the picture, you don't need to play any more of that.
	The point I was going to make is that he's always been... The reason why I don't particularly like my son... He's talking to just a normal person there, an interviewer, and he's intimidating him.
	And there's lots of examples when he would do things like that.
	And I know talking trash is part of the game, massively of course, but there's a classic line where he said he wanted to, I think it was Lennox Lewis again, he'd eat his babies.
	And he'd stomp on people's testicles, and intimidating people in interviews and stuff, and of course that rape conviction.
	He's a fairly horrible person, I think.
	I mean, he's chilled out loads these days, on podcasts and things.
	He's much more chilled out But I mean I haven't got I'm not really rooting for Mike Which most people seem to be The internet in general is really rooting for Mike.
	Hopefully he can get this one last swan song win under his belt.
	But I don't know if it will happen.
	We'll just have to start bringing it to a close.
	Well, alright, so predictions.
	Again, as I said at the beginning, everyone's got an opinion on it.
	Dana White, who if anyone knows anything or two about the Fight Game, Um, it's Dana White, right?
	You know, the, the owner, CEO, sorry, CEO, not owner, of, um, UFC.
	I think he also owns WWE now.
	They had a big merger.
	Dana White?
	Either he owns it or is in partnership with them.
	There was a huge merger late last year, I think, or early last year.
	I forget exactly when, but yeah, he, he's, he's got his fingers in all the pies now.
	He said, Mike shouldn't do it.
	He said, like, if you're over 50, don't get in fights.
	It's just as simple as that.
	Even 50's a bit old.
	If you're in your mid 40's, if you're getting up there, it's probably not a good idea, even if you're Mike Tyson.
	And if we're talking about people coming back into the game, over the weekend at WrestleMania, The Rock, who's now in his early 50s, came back into it.
	And obviously, he looks great because he's very clean living, completely natural, completely natural body built, you know, very impressive that he's managed to have higher muscle mass in his early 50s than he did in his mid-20s.
	Remarkable, once in a lifetime genetics there.
	He came back and fought a match And it was a really long match, actually.
	It was about 45 minutes.
	But even then, he was going slower than he used to.
	And he's in fantastic shape, fantastic condition for his age.
	And then you have people like The Undertaker, who was going far past into his 50s.
	I think he's in his late 50s now, and he only retired a few years ago.
	And even then, in his early to mid-50s, he was starting to get to the point where he was Some were accusing him of tarnishing his legacy by trying to get his one last great match to the point where the last match he did properly was basically like all a pre-record televised thing because they knew in-ring he just didn't have what it took anymore.
	And that's somebody who was still continually in the ring at least once a year, maybe multiple times a year up to that point.
	Point is, it's really hard to stay in shape if you're in combat sports.
	Really, because it takes a toll.
	Yeah, I mean even though I know that I played loads of football in my time, loads.
	When I was a kid it's sort of all I did with my spare time and up to sort of my early 30s.
	And even that, between being say 20, 22 and being 32, you've lost a bit, like 100%.
	And it's really frustrating and annoying because I was always fairly quick, played on the left wing and stuff.
	It was one of my things to knock the ball on the sprint past the guy.
	By the time I'm in my early 30s even, I'm like, why am I not as fast as I used to be?
	So when you're knocking 60, I think the issue is going to be cardio and speed.
	If I had to put a tenner on it, I'd put it on Jake Paul, because of that.
	However, having said that, Mike Tyson could easily knock him out in the first round, or the first two rounds.
	So that's my prediction.
	Mike knocks him out in round one or two, or Jake Paul wins, either by knockout or it goes the distance and he ends up winning on points.
	So I'm sort of sitting on the fence there, but anyway, I'm looking forward to it and we'll see what happens.
	If it goes ahead in the fight game, when there's months still to play out, anything could happen, anyone could back out for any reason, but we'll see.
	We'll see.
	That's it.
	I'll go to the video comments.
	Callum, I very specially dedicate this just to you.
	I'm
	I don't want to sound like I'm doing that thing that people do when they talk about foreigners, but those women do all look like clones of one another.
	What is going on there?
	Outside of just genuine racism, they looked all the exact same.
	Was that on purpose?
	Are they made to look the same in the makeup?
	Just what North Korean women look like.
	I was going to say, is that China or North Korea?
	Oh, okay.
	We've both been racist.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	If it's Kalim, it has to be North Korea.
	Right.
	Yeah, I believe that's the North Korean fans that were sent to one of the Olympics games.
	I think it might have been football or something.
	And they were the only fans and none of the media ever got to ask many questions.
	Because they were just chaperoned from place to place.
	Well, they were obviously just trained to do that, weren't they?
	Well, they just don't speak English.
	Like, I did see one of the reporters for Channel 4 go up and ask them in English, um, can we talk to you?
	And obviously, because they don't speak English, they just look at him funny.
	And then Channel 4 played this as like, look, they're being controlled.
	It's like, No dipshit!
	Well, Korean!
	I mean, them just spontaneously coming out with that little routine there.
	Yeah, they've practiced that.
	That might have been the better footage to show.
	I will be honest, it was quite cute to be fair.
	That's a good way of them branding themselves.
	Have you ever seen North Korean or maybe Chinese, that sort of mass choreography thing that they put ACDC over the top or Welcome to the Jungle or something?
	Have you ever seen that?
	That seems like the worst music for that.
	They find a song with the right tempo or whatever.
	Oh right, okay.
	The original's better.
	The next one.
	Shalom. - Yeah.
	Show!
	I can't say it!
	Spider-Man is anti-Semitic confirmed.
	What did Sam Raimi mean by this?
	The funny bit, of course, being that Sam Raimi is Jewish.
	Is he?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever met anti-Semitic people?
	Most of them are Jewish.
	Really?
	Oh my goodness!
	Have you ever seen They Live with Rowdy Roddy Piper?
	I've not seen, I'm aware of it.
	I've got it, I've just not watched it yet.
	I was listening to a really, really catchy song the other day that's actually shown to kindergartners in Japan, and I heard this.
	It pisses me off because it's a really fun, catchy song.
	Alright, apparently it's UN climate propaganda of all things.
	Oh damn, I was bobbing my head to it and everything.
	It really is, though.
	Is it a Simpsons episode or South Park?
	Neon Yep Biage?
	The song?
	Let's join the Navy backwards?
	Oh, from The Simpsons!
	Yeah!
	Go to the next one.
	I've been a commercial artist for 17 years.
	This was my first copy of Adobe Creative Suite, and I'm using Cloud now.
	Well, I was until today.
	I've cancelled my subscription, I've moved over to Affinity, and for animation I'm going to use Cavalry and DaVinci Resolve.
	Adobe don't want designers.
	We're a means to an end whereby any midwhip marketing assistant can type logo into the generative AI bar in Illustrator and get some dog shit that ticks the box for their boss.
	Get rid of Adobe.
	It's killing the creative industry.
	An interesting argument, but I'll be honest.
	I don't know what that does.
	Because, of course, if, like, Dogshit Company wants Dogshit logo, they're just gonna do the Dogshit thing.
	So... I mean, yeah.
	I mean, I value human creation.
	It is better, obviously.
	And I hate Dogshit Company being Dogshit's children, but there we are.
	Anyway.
	I don't know if you guys have opinions on Adobe.
	I mean, I don't like them anyway.
	I don't pay for it already.
	I fucking hate subscription models for products.
	It's like, you've got the product, give me the fucking product.
	Like, it's not like you're updating this piece of shit.
	And instead they're like, yeah, pay us 50 quid a month.
	Yeah, it's why I don't have, like, Logic Pro or Pro Tools or anything.
	I just use free recording software on my computer.
	Remember when they tried to do this shit with video games?
	They called them live services.
	Oh, they're still doing that!
	That's what Suicide Squad was.
	That's why so many games are coming out basically unsatisfying or incomplete, because they're just planning on filling the rest of the gaps in with the game months down the line.
	Genuinely revolting.
	Let's go to the next one.
	You know, I got really scared when I thought in my heart that Stelios and Josh were leaving.
	I was starting to get a little bit of abandonment issues with the number of other people who have left thus far from Lotus Eaters.
	So, yeah, no one else is allowed to leave.
	And I'm looking forward to what's happening next.
	By the time you play this, maybe you'll have announced already.
	And if not, that's fine, too.
	Just looking forward to finding out what's happening.
	Anyway, have a good one and best of luck.
	Cheers!
	I gotta say, Josh looks kinda weird in that thumbnail.
	He doesn't look like himself, does he?
	Yeah, it's the image being stretched or squashed or something.
	He looks Chinese.
	It's like a Mao picture, isn't it?
	Pardon, John?
	Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry.
	But yeah, he looks like I've just settled a deal with a Korean businessman.
	Shall we drink to it?
	We really should get Carl to make some sort of announcement about what we're doing, what's going to... Is EPOX... Yeah, Dream On.
	Is EPOX continuing?
	Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, EPOX is, and Broken Omics.
	And Comics Corner will be coming back very soon, still on a very here and there kind of release schedule because Connor and I will get round to it when we get round to it.
	I've got more important things to do.
	Well, to the written comments.
	The Real Bigfoot says, Hi lads, a point on Harry's recent look at the ineptitude of British councils.
	I think these segments are kind of depressing, but some of them are more important.
	It's one of the more important things you guys do.
	I don't know if enjoyed is the right word, but they're certainly very informative.
	I knew the Rob was bad, but didn't know how bad.
	There we are.
	Thanks.
	I do think it's some of the more important work that I do here as well.
	Obviously, it's not premium stuff, but if we're going to make valuable content for the free podcast, then it should be really valuable.
	And I thought it was relevant.
	And also, it's just depressing.
	Really depressing seeing how shit and rundown and awful and counterproductive and just traitorous Every aspect of the UK government, from national to local, is.
	And I need to share it with you guys, so that you can all feel my pain.
	Windpillseeker donated two bucks to say nearly 4,000 people watch you from Rumble daily, sometimes peaking at 5 or 6,000.
	It's probably where many of your membership comes from.
	Make sure you give the Rumble crowd some love.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, we very much need to do that, don't we?
	Keep reminding ourselves to try and do stuff, more Rumble things.
	Big love for the Rumble guys.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Bren Lord donated $20 to say, I saw an artist complaining about how Adobe is pushing the use of AI for art in schools, which is destroying children's ability to create.
	It's awful.
	Also, keep bullying SOG for me boys.
	All day every day.
	We're on that grind set.
	On the cops.
	So Omar Awad said nobody wants to be shoven during election year.
	Good point.
	That's every four years.
	One of your colleagues is just going to get completely destroyed and their life thrown under the bus.
	You want that to be you?
	No.
	Well, right now.
	Yeah, Shelley says to join the police now you also have to have a degree, indoctrination degrees.
	It's not really worth the hassle.
	Yeah, this is something that in the Abolition of Liberty, Peter Hitchens talks about, which is the Post-Macpherson Report that was basically used as a way to switch out most of the heads of police departments around the country and switch them out for new standards where you had to make sure that you had a degree and you had to go through all of this DEI training.
	Obviously, it was named something different in the late 90s, early 2000s.
	But for a long time there's been this ongoing coup of the UK police force to make sure that the people protecting you and your communities aren't the kind of, you know, odd lads that you really need enforcing laws because criminals, this may shock people, are bad people and aren't afraid of using violence and you want tough people to protect you from them and just trade them out for university students.
	soy boys.
	Lord Nerevar says that no cop with a functioning brain would stay in the police force in any English-speaking country now.
	I do wonder what it's like in Australia because I've got this inkling feeling there's still some hope in that part of the Anglosphere because it's definitely North America and the European branch decided that it's all over.
	We should be ethnically replaced and then the whole country just won't exist.
	But Australia said no to the Browns last year, so there's still hope.
	Well, it's just that their two immigrant groups are Chinese and Indians, for both of those countries, it seems.
	And of the immigrant groups... Yeah, okay, not gonna have those Pakistani problems, that's for sure.
	So, I don't know.
	And even then, with New Zealand recently, they just went, actually, too many Indians, turn that off.
	Yeah, well that's the thing.
	No matter the quality of the new arrivals, you still don't want to be demographically replaced.
	It seems there's some understanding of this though.
	I see people from Australia who comment for us saying that basically it's partially to do with the fact that it's by law you have to vote in Australia and so if it's illegal not to vote then you do get a bit more of a democratic view of how the population is feeling and it tends to be a bit more conservative in its thinking.
	Alright, well, let's move on to the next section.
	Yeah, so Omar Awad said, if the only way to protect your rights is to risk financial obliteration, you don't have rights.
	Yep.
	John wins.
	Beau is such a treat.
	Always great to have him on the podcast.
	And he's so humble.
	It's just how I roll.
	He's so humble about it as well.
	No, it's very nice of you to say.
	Very nice.
	Honestly, I'm flattered.
	Yeah, we always appreciate the compliments because we're all deeply insecure men here at the Lotus Eaters.
	Why would you create content otherwise?
	Why would you think my career needs to be me telling people on the internet my opinions?
	There has to be a certain amount of hubris with that.
	Screw tape lasers.
	Speaking of noticing, I've been noticing a pattern among the people waging warfare against conservatives.
	They all seem to be wearing hair extensions.
	How strange.
	Hmm.
	They also seem to be married to a disproportionate number of white men.
	It's always funny, especially in New York.
	The Crusader.
	What New York is doing to V-Dare is very similar to what Louis Rosman went through after leaving that shitty city.
	They kept sending him legal documents, threats, etc.
	even though he now lives and runs his business in Texas.
	New York needs to be wiped off the face of the earth at this point.
	Metaphorically speaking, sure.
	Yeah, in Minecraft.
	Windpill Seeker again on Rumble for $2, thank you again, says the problem is not only that the DNC can level illegitimate lawsuits from blue states, it's also that the GOP have become Tories and refuse to level legitimate lawsuits from red states.
	I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
	As a lot of people have started saying recently, the purpose of a system is what it does.
	As you can say on paper, all you want are, we're here to uphold the law and maintain order, but if everything your organization does is the opposite, well then you're meant to do the opposite, clearly.
	Ewan Baker, didn't you know words are a salt?
	That's what we've been operating off for too long now.
	And someone online says, Trump is the goodest boy in all of politics, and that's hilarious.
	Yeah, you got a point there, actually.
	Shall we go on to Mike Tyson?
	You still haven't put him up there, or could you read a couple for me?
	My screen's not working.
	Callum, your screen's working.
	Have you got it down to...
	I'll just read them.
	I'll just read them.
	I'll read them.
	All right.
	Henry Ashman.
	I can only hope this fight can be summed up as pensioner beats the living snot out of annoying YouTuber.
	Though I've seen a lot of people asking why Jake's not trying to genuinely make a fist of a career as a legit professional boxer rather than a sideshow, I suspect having to adhere to anti-doping regulations is a big issue with that.
	There's that.
	And also, they won't let him.
	Well, not they won't let him, but there's so much politics involved in getting to fight someone really big and important.
	Like Canelo, right?
	That would be the dream fight, something like that.
	Canelo's not going to fight Jake Paul.
	He's not going to accept that fight.
	But anyway, he has, like I say, the last fight he had was an actual half-decent boxer.
	So I think he's trying.
	I think if Jake Paul could get a fight with a legit boxer, he would do it.
	I mean his brothers managed to make a legit career as WWE to the point where Wrestlemania was sponsored by Logan Paul's company Prime.
	Literally for the first time in years the WWE had a logo in the centre of the ring, old school WCW style, and it was a Prime logo.
	For the biggest Wrestlemania ever.
	So you know, sadly the polls show that through adversity they can basically do anything.
	Which is weird to say.
	RuTheDay said, Bo doing a trivial and inconsequential segment is such a nice palate cleanser, just lads shooting the shit.
	Good times.
	There you go, I like it as well.
	TheRealBigFoot, I love Tyson but people saying he's gonna kill Jake Paul, forget how Tyson's career ended, he was never the same fighter after Buster Douglas beat him, Jake Paul will win.
	Yeah, the last two fights Tyson had he lost.
	He won one before that, and then the one before that was the Lennox Lewis one.
	Lennox Lewis did TKO him.
	Mike Tyson, I think, lost six times in his career, and one to Buster Douglas, and that was even before he went to prison.
	So he's not invincible.
	Mike Tyson, for a long time, the first part of his career, I think he went 37 or 38 for O. But then after that, he wasn't invincible.
	Jake Paul could knock him out.
	If Jake Paul can completely completely knock out Tyrone Woodley, he could knock out Tyson.
	So, we'll see, we'll see.
	You've got me interested in it, so I'll certainly... I might tune in.
	Using completely legitimate... No, no, no.
	One last thing, Callum.
	JJHW asks, does Bo like jai alai?
	Whatever that is.
	Oh, chai alai.
	Chai alai.
	Yeah, I love watching a bit of chai alai, yeah.
	It's that thing where you've got a big massive scoop thing on your hand and you throw it against the wall.
	Oh, alright.
	Like, really... Yeah, anyway, yeah, that's great.
	I thought, you know, watch that happening, yeah.
	Alright, we're out of time.

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