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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #889

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast, The Load Seaters.
	I'm joined by Dan.
	Hello.
	And Josh.
	Hello.
	Today we're going to be talking about why a MAGA supporter is punching women in New York City.
	Who knows?
	The Brazilian Communist Revolution and a local man has found out.
	Local man?
	Local news.
	Oh, is that?
	You're doing a story about Rory?
	No, not quite.
	Not the actual local man?
	No, he's, yeah, he is the official local man.
	The other one.
	But anyway, I have no announcements.
	Apart from what I've written there, so don't ignore that.
	Let's go to the news.
	Oh, that's me on the news today.
	Okay, well...
	It's some news that MAGA supporters are punching people in New York apparently.
	This is definitely something that's going on and is definitely happening and is real and you know your speculation is only bigotry that this is untrue.
	This is definitely happening and here is a New York Post article talking about it.
	Karl has covered some of this but he's not covered the MAGA angle yet and it was also quite sort of A small amount of coverage, but here are some of the women.
	Let's have a listen to some of them.
	Unfortunately, I'm going to torture you with having to listen to TikTokers.
	And yeah, it is also worth mentioning, you know, TikTokers are America's most valuable asset.
	And, you know, it's a terrible shame that people are punching them.
	But here we go.
	I was literally just walking and a man came up and punched me in the face.
	Oh, my God.
	It hurts so bad.
	I can't even talk.
	Literally, I.
	There's one, that's all I can stomach of that.
	Here's another one.
	So I just got punched in the face walking home.
	I was literally like leaving class.
	I turned the corner.
	So she was like literally punched in the face.
	You can see her bruise.
	And yeah, it seems like this is genuine.
	I suspect she was actually literally punched in the face rather than figuratively punched in the face.
	Yes.
	They normally get that wrong.
	And that makes me want to punch.
	Maybe she misused the word literally.
	Just before she was punched, because that would be understandable.
	I'm sure that the residents of New York are just really pedantic about grammar.
	That's what's going on.
	That could be it.
	I like literally have my skin crawling from hearing people talk like that.
	You figuratively have your skin crawling.
	My skin is crawling off of me.
	It's got a sentience of its own.
	I'm saying it wrong on purpose, alright?
	But no, I genuinely don't think that they should be punched, however annoying the TikTok mode of speaking is.
	There is also another example here of a less annoying person talking about it.
	She's almost smiling about it, so she's a good sport.
	She can take a punch.
	I quite like that one.
	Yeah, she seemed a bit more normal.
	She didn't have the whole social media mannerisms that you see, where it's over-exaggerated.
	They're really farming for that engagement.
	Every hand movement is corresponding to some sort of word.
	But yes, Carl has covered this.
	Here we are.
	Here's the New York Post talking about it.
	Here's another woman with a black eye.
	Michaela Toninato, 27, from Brooklyn, was punched in the face Monday afternoon by a man over six feet tall on the corner of 14th Street and 5th Avenue.
	She went to the emergency room on Tuesday and was told she had a concussion.
	So obviously that's horrible.
	I don't wish anyone to be punched, particularly women over men.
	How on earth has the New York voting system ended up in a situation where this can happen?
	I have no idea, Dan.
	I wonder what situation could have led to such a thing.
	Female suffrage.
	I wasn't going to say it, but I have to say it.
	Maybe I'm being a bit harsh, but unmarried women voting, just not sure about that.
	This day and age, I think voting is such a waste of time that everyone doing it, everyone can waste their time.
	One thing I thought was interesting about this, a man over six feet tall, and I was thinking to myself, what people tend to be quite tall, over six feet tall.
	And when I think of tall people, I think of, say, basketball players, you know, NBA teams, and they tend to all be tall, right?
	And I was thinking, what sort of thing in NBA teams do they tend to have in common?
	the numbers yeah they're all basketball players obviously they must have if they're tall they must also have big feet they must be good at basketball obviously these sorts of things right but I just couldn't get to the bottom of it but there is one of these TikTokers after she got punched she had the cognizance left to try and get a picture of the gentleman and Here she is posting this screenshot.
	A fella in a red jacket, that's his most discernible feature, and jeans.
	Obviously it's difficult to tell what kind of...
	I can't make it out.
	I don't know.
	It's difficult to tell, isn't it?
	Here is an example here from, this was June of last year.
	So this isn't necessarily a new phenomenon.
	It can go back a little bit further than recently.
	It's just that the media have been paying more attention to this spree of women getting punched.
	And here is a screenshot of a person who, you know, the footage is so grainy, I can't make out who this gentleman is.
	That's the woman.
	That's the woman there?
	Yeah, the woman in the background there.
	That's the actual puncher.
	Ooh, plot twist!
	Yes, that could be interesting, couldn't it?
	Did you watch the video?
	See, she's punching him!
	With her long black arm!
	That's right, she was actually the culprit here.
	So this clearly unidentifiable gentleman... So all we know at this point is that it is a man.
	Right, fair enough.
	Well, there has been an arrest.
	I don't know.
	Fringe political candidate who ran for New York Mayor has apparently been accused, and this is all the way back in March, of sucker punching TikTokers.
	He just really dislikes the use of Chinese spyware.
	He's just such an American patriot.
	So much so that he has a Trump flag behind him, even though he didn't run as a Republican or associated with Trump, he ran as an Independent.
	This is... Skiboki Stora?
	I don't know how to say that.
	Is that his own name?
	I don't know.
	Skibbity Storer.
	His Skibbity Toilet.
	Skibbity Bop.
	Yeah, this is the gentleman that is appearing in court and yes, this might have something to do with a certain phenomenon of people just randomly punching people in the street.
	And he's an independent Trump Is he or something?
	Well, he ran as an independent.
	He was unaffiliated with Trump in any way, but he had a Trump flag behind him.
	I don't know why.
	Oh, right.
	Oh, right.
	Well, this is MAGA country then.
	Yeah, he's just your garden variety Trump supporter, I'm sure.
	I'm sure you can make lots of generalizations about this one guy who, as they say, is a fringe political candidate.
	Never mind previous stories, you know, where there are viral images showing people of color as anti-Asian perpetrators.
	This is, of course, when you have people just randomly punching Asian people.
	In fact, I covered a story relatively recently of a guy who went on Joe Rogan's podcast, who was a person of color, so to speak, whose son got started a fight when he was 14.
	I think he was a 24-year-old Asian student.
	He ran into traffic to escape this person of color, this young 14-year-old, and got hit by a car and died.
	So this phenomenon has been going on for a while.
	These poor persecuted people of colour just randomly punching people for no reason.
	And I think it all ties in together.
	You know, women, Asian people.
	Point of order.
	Are Asian people people of colour or are their grades too high?
	I'm never quite sure.
	I'm afraid they do too well.
	They're actually more white than white people.
	Yes.
	You may remember people lumping in Asian people with white people saying that they're basically the same.
	They're exactly the same.
	They're just as complicit in our oppression.
	Slightly better at maths, but yeah.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	So for the sake of transparency, here is another one of the wanted people.
	So if you live in New York and you see this man, If you're a woman, he might punch you.
	How would you describe him to those listening at home?
	Perhaps Hispanic, maybe Middle Eastern, dark hair, sort of swarvy.
	He's wearing a Stitch from Lilo & Stitch hoodie with a New York Yankees button-up shirt over the top.
	Interesting look.
	Classic New Yorker then.
	I don't really know what look he's going for here, but at least you know he's in the New York area because he's got that shirt on.
	Maybe it's a cover, who knows?
	But this is the article I wanted to talk about.
	Men punching random women in New York.
	A desperate last gasp of the male rage fueling MAGA.
	Right, let's see how they back this one up.
	Um, what I always like to do when I see a headline like this is look at, um, before I read the body of the article, look at who wrote it.
	Um, because you know, it tells you a little bit about why they might be writing the article.
	And, um, here she is.
	Amanda.
	She's got man in her name, so that obviously makes her mad as a feminist.
	Should be fair, I don't want to offend anyone listening, but I've never met a sane Amanda.
	That could just be me.
	What about Amanda Hugginkess?
	Great Simpsons reference.
	So yeah, she writes for Slate, The Guardian and Salon.
	So what a trio of outlets to write for.
	Raised in Texas in a household, but she wrote this book.
	Troll Nation, How the Right Became Trump-Worshipping Monsters Set on Rat-Ething Liberals, America and the Truth Itself.
	Is that true?
	That's interesting.
	I should read that.
	Yeah, it's an interesting title, isn't it?
	It suggests to me a certain amount of... I quite like it.
	Fucking rats.
	I don't... What?
	It suggests to me a certain amount of level-headedness and, you know, decorum about political discourse being discussed within that sort of sensible, level-headed title, doesn't it?
	It suggests to you that this person is someone to be taken seriously.
	Look at that discount, though.
	A whole $1.50 off.
	What a bargain.
	Here are some of their articles.
	Evangelicals won't be bothered about Trump, but yes, Trump.
	Obviously the article we're talking about.
	MAGA.
	Trump.
	GOP.
	She sort of has a theme, doesn't she?
	Yeah, Republicans and Lara Trump.
	Trump.
	You're not even skipping any.
	You're just, this is just literally article after article about how basically right-wingers are awful.
	Josh Hawley there as well is not Trump, but it is a Republican.
	And then again Trump.
	So I think we might have stumbled onto someone who has made a career of bashing Trump here.
	Are any of these people actually still employed?
	Because I thought all of these types basically couldn't get jobs anymore and they're having to learn to code or something.
	It turns out that formulaic articles are better written by AI and they're actually better argued by AI.
	You know, things that aren't actually sentient, which says a lot about the journalists they're replacing.
	Because of course, was it Vox?
	I covered this so I should know, but I'm pretty sure Vox replaced some of their journalists with AI before nobody knew.
	Well actually, their stock price went up 12% in response to that.
	So yes, it is confirmed AI is better than leftist journalists, but let's go to this article because I want to read some of the insanity in here.
	It says men are punching random women.
	Oh, I should probably scroll down so you can read it as well.
	Men are punching random women on the street of New York City.
	As usual with these kinds of diffuse and chaotic stories, there is much that is unknown.
	How she can assert that it's all MAGA supporters, I don't know.
	Including how often this is happening, how many people are involved, whether it's all coordinated.
	You mean random people Punching people on the street is somehow some sort of conspiracy.
	They're all meeting together and just like, how can we punch women in, you know, in coordinated attacks?
	I'm sure that's what's happening.
	But what we do know is already alarming.
	CNN reports that dozens of women have discussed being victims of social media and formerly interviewed victims on social media.
	Sorry, that was a Freudian slip there.
	Formally interviewed six of them.
	NBC News reports that there have been at least three arrests.
	CBS News reports that NYPD released images last week.
	of a fourth man wanted for allegedly punching a woman in Union Square.
	Even reality TV star Bethany Frankel says she's been victimized.
	So, what this journalist could have done at this point was clicked on those links of the articles she hyperlinked, some of the ones we've been through already, and looked at some of the pictures of the people that are either accused or wanted, and perhaps made some conclusions about them, rather than just saying that they were these Trump supporters, you know, that just go around punching women because, you know, they feel like it, you know?
	It's just like, damn you, you voted for Hillary, I bet.
	Here you go, here's my right hook.
	And it carries on to say, women report being assaulted by men of different races and ages.
	And when they say this explicitly, like, oh, it's, it's, you know, it's just a trend that transcends all, you know, demographics and ages.
	Different races.
	So people of French origin, German, Italian.
	The Amish.
	Yes, the Amish.
	I'm sure there are some Laotians there, maybe some Papua New Guineans, perhaps there are some Inuit.
	Yes.
	A splattering of Northern Europeans and the occasional Buddhist, that kind of thing.
	Yeah, because Buddhists are known for violence, aren't they?
	The alleged victims are mostly young and pretty, and most of them say they were minding their own business when they were attacked.
	I think most sucker punches are that way.
	I've been sucker punched before, actually.
	I was in a nightclub talking to some people and this very short black guy literally hopped in the air to reach me because I'm very tall and clipped me and I just thought someone bumped into me because it didn't really hurt and then I looked around and then he was just like what are you talking to my girlfriend for and I was talking to a bloke um so I don't and then I heard this really fat woman saying NO!
	That was a perfect impression.
	And then he disappeared into the crowd like Hannibal Lecter at the end of Silence of the Lambs.
	And then I said to the bouncer, hey, this short black guy punched me.
	And he's just like, well, that's a bit racist, isn't it?
	What are you going to do?
	Just stop any black person walking in?
	I was just like, but he's really short.
	There can't be that many tiny black people.
	And he's like, well, I'm not letting you in now anymore.
	No, it was ridiculous.
	But anyway.
	All right.
	You know, all bouncers need to be purged.
	Sorry, that's a joke, by the way, although I don't like bouncers.
	But anyway, it carries on to say, others were speaking to friends or daydreaming, whatever they were doing, they were just living their lives.
	And that, it seems, is what enraged their assailants.
	I don't know about that.
	Just like, do you ever see people just living their daily life and it fills you with anger?
	I don't think I've ever felt that.
	um no obviously I'm not going around punching women but then I haven't been to New York for a long time that's true yeah um maybe New York's just such a hostile environment that you just get this pent up rage at people minding their own business yeah um it's not part of a greater problem of just indiscriminate crime Whatever the scale of this problem eventually turns out to be, it's not surprising that these stories have gone viral and captured the public's imagination.
	While it rarely turns to violence, most women who spend much time walking around in public have experience with men who berate them for paying attention to something other than the man who is now, often out of nowhere, spewing invectives.
	And I can tell she's recently bought a thesaurus while writing this because she could have just said, you know, expletives, swear words.
	Cussing, if you're particularly American.
	But no, she went with invectives.
	Our modern era that often manifests with men who are infuriated at women for looking at their phones.
	I've literally never heard of that.
	Have either of you heard of men getting angry at women for looking at their phones?
	Ever?
	I get mildly annoyed with the wife doing it when we're trying to watch something.
	Because I know.
	You don't punch her though.
	No, but I just know that two minutes later it's going to be, why is that happening?
	It's like, well, if you watch this bloody movie, all your questions will be answered.
	I've experienced this before, yeah.
	I know exactly what you mean.
	But never punched her over it, no.
	But I'm old enough to remember when I would get yelled at for reading books in public.
	Nerd.
	Oh, I knocked my microphone there.
	Sorry about that.
	Whatever the excuse the angry man concocts, the impetus is always the same.
	The eyes of a woman are directed at someone or something that is not him and he is indignant over it.
	And I think what's going on here with this journalist is she has invented a straw man in her head, and of course it is also, you know, a man, so she hates them.
	And she's therefore very angry at this hypothetical man that exists in reality for certain and is now attacking the thoughts of this man that she has definitely not imagined and definitely exists.
	So he will make sure that he has no choice but to look at him either by getting in her face or, in these alarming New York cases, punching her.
	If he cannot capture her adoring gaze, well, he'll make her stare at him in fear.
	I don't think that from the pictures we've seen and from the accounts, that that's actually what's going on.
	I don't think they're clamoring for their attention.
	In fact, they seem pretty indifferent to them, hence why they're punching them.
	You know, perhaps I'm not the biggest ladies man in the world, but I've never really thought that punching women is a good way to get their attention.
	In fact, it's a good way to make them hate you.
	And so it seems like a counterintuitive strategy.
	I know I've heard of worse, but still.
	These stories resonate as well because the nation is having a moment of increasingly unhinged male fury at women for daring to have lives that are centered around something other than catering to a man's every whim.
	There's no bitterness here whatsoever.
	Unleashed by Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, there's an upswell of loud male entitlement shouting at us from every corner.
	This woman badly needs a man to tell her to just go and make a sandwich and be quiet.
	Because she's just waiting for that moment.
	Wait until you see what her Twitter profile picture is.
	You're in for a treat.
	We see male fans of Jordan Peterson who clamor to his events to hear him croak out a Just So story about how lobsters justify their faith in male dominance.
	That's not even what that means.
	What the hell?
	The lobster thing was that your position in a social hierarchy affects your posture and how you conduct yourself.
	I get that, but... It's not that lobsters... She's taken the Kathy Newman line.
	Not realizing how humiliated Kathy Newman was in that interview.
	I mean, she was just a bit angry and lefty before, but she's kind of going off the rails now.
	I mean, to be fair, I mean, well, she started on the rails, but still.
	Yeah.
	Or the rise of tradwives online who make a living pretending they're unemployed and housebound.
	Or Ben Shapiro setting fire to a Barbie doll because he can't stand a blockbuster comedy.
	Starring a woman is about anything but her quest for male affection.
	Yeah, it kind of was though.
	Yeah, it's a bit of a stretch.
	All MAGA pundits telling lies about birth control in hopes of tricking women into having babies before they're ready.
	And that's not just MAGA pundits, right?
	You know, there are lots of questions about birth control, hormones that run off and go into the supply that affect fertility, as well as changing Um, women's preferences in lots of studies, wide scale bipartisan studies.
	Uh, and you know, I don't want to trick women into having babies before they're ready.
	I think that's generally a bad thing.
	Um, well, especially since every possible societal pressure is put on them to defer to the decision as long as possible.
	Just did a broken omics on that broken omics of children.
	That's worth watching.
	So it carries on to say, all conservatives writing op-eds that blame women for male loneliness, telling women they must self-sacrifice to relieve male pain by marrying Donald Trump voters.
	I think that that's a bit of a straw man or right-wing men yelling because Taylor Swift has cats or because she dates a hunky vaccinated NFL player instead of, I don't know, having babies with a guy in ill-fitting cargo shorts.
	I think most of the people criticizing Taylor Swift, that was due to her endorsing Biden and being in her mid thirties and still not having children.
	I mean, who cares about what Taylor Swift does personally?
	I don't really care.
	But it's still a sort of straw man.
	It goes on to talk about second wave feminism getting thrown out and how things are cyclical and Limp Bizkit and George W Bush roped in and trucker caps for some reason.
	And she goes on again, not to sound too much of a misogynist, but she is sort of going on a bit of an irrelevant rant.
	She's sort of just getting her feelings out.
	But one big difference between male tantrums we're experiencing now and the backlash of old, this time women aren't really playing along.
	Few may be, especially if they can get a piece of that sweet trad wife income.
	But in the past, backlash has tended to draw large numbers of women along, or at least convince them to silence their opinions, lest they be labeled a man-hater.
	In more conservative parts of the country in the early 2000s, it manifest as widespread shaming of women for having sex before marriage.
	But women tended to do that more than men, normally.
	Women are the enforcers of women's own standards a lot of the time.
	It is not normally men that are going around shaming women, although it does happen.
	No, especially not that they're getting some.
	Yeah, but it wasn't a great time in more liberal areas where women put up with hipster sexism to get the prize of being called a cool girl.
	This doesn't seem like bitterness whatsoever.
	And it goes on and on and on and it says the rise of Magritte is fueled by misogyny blah blah blah but it's lesser backlash than a tantrum, a rage explosion by men who want to restore their dominance but fear that this time women won't buckle to their bullying and that's why they're just indiscriminately punching them apparently.
	This rash of men punching women in New York City captures this moment in a dark way.
	We don't even need to know their names or faces to know that men who do this are losers.
	Well, I mean, I do agree with that.
	Lashing out because they've learned that actually women don't owe them anything just because they're men.
	This is all just, there's no actual evidence provided here.
	This is just anger.
	This is a very bitter lady.
	Pure ideology, frankly.
	It is, yeah.
	Women are getting punched in New York.
	I won't look at who's doing it or why.
	I will just make up that it's because men hate women and women need to rise up and do what?
	Because you're still going to get punched.
	I mean, it's just nothing.
	There's nothing there.
	Well, women in New York need to rise up and stop voting.
	Yeah, well, you know, you vote for criminals and you get crime.
	And it's also true that women aren't suffering in silence, but telling stories without shame or self-blame.
	There's something nakedly pathetic about punching women, I agree with that, as scary as it is for the victims.
	It's not like the catcalling or groping of old, which disguised male aggression as a mere over-exuberance of lust.
	This is the last gasp of men who, unable to justify their sexism in any way, must resort to brute force.
	Yet, even then, they're unable to shut women up.
	I mean, that last point is true.
	We're not able to shut Amanda up, are we?
	No.
	But I wanted to go now just to point out something about New York.
	All these MAGA supporters in New York.
	You may see, you know, actually, America, sort of a sea of red.
	And then you start zooming in on New York, you notice it's a bit blue.
	It's very blue.
	Yeah, there's not that many Trump supporters in New York, really.
	On the outskirts, but this whole storyline has not been about the outskirts.
	Who the hell is living in those red dots?
	They're surrounded.
	We need to go in there and liberate them.
	Broken arrow.
	Give them their support.
	Some of them are like 90% Trump.
	So one would presume that these are like the bankers.
	Well, I don't know.
	Bankers but left in place.
	Do they really?
	South of Broadway.
	That's interesting, isn't it?
	Yeah, there we go.
	Broadway votes Trump.
	There we go.
	That's the unwritten news here.
	Gays for Trump.
	Yes.
	Actually, before we go onto our Twitter, what are the odds on what our profile picture is?
	Think that she's a feminist, right?
	What would she have in a... Feminist symbol?
	No, that's too boring.
	She's not going to be wearing one of those pussy hats, is she?
	No.
	Is that a man?
	Is it the man in charge that we can talk to?
	No.
	No idea, Josh.
	It's a cat!
	Um, and the reason I'm on here is to show you that, uh, hearing the, uh, the backlash, she has not learned her lesson.
	And, uh, where is it?
	Um.
	Man, I knew this article was super true when I wrote it, but the hateful emails MAGA men are sending doubly prove it.
	Hit dogs as they say.
	Holler.
	Oh men, just know that your angry emails are going unread.
	If I see a man's name on the email and mention of punching women, I know what you're going to say and will delete without a read.
	I can see that you feel seen and do not like it.
	There are two reasons your misogynistic angry responses will go unread.
	One, as noted in the article, men are not entitled to a woman's time or energy.
	None of this has anything to do with misogyny or feminism or anything of the sort.
	We know the people who are doing the punching and they're not white knick towels.
	Shut up!
	And she says, I can see the traffic and know you didn't read a word before you decided you were mad.
	Well, I read most of the whole article.
	I've read it for a few times and I'm still annoyed that someone would write such a baseless article.
	There's no evidence here.
	I mean, we at least looked at some of the pictures of the accused people, looked at some historic president, looked at, you know, Well, we didn't look at the crime rates in New York, but we know who was over-represented there.
	So, I would like to end on a meme.
	It's not exactly the most imaginative thing, but I think it encapsulates the journalistic class perfectly.
	Am I out of touch?
	No, it's the Trump voters who are wrong.
	And that about says it, really.
	Yes, journalists You know, are willing to force ideology down your throat, even if there's absolutely not a shred of evidence to suggest it.
	Right, well let's talk about the Brazilian.
	Are you fans of the Brazilian lads?
	Oh, yes.
	Good, good.
	Well, we've got a whole segment on that.
	Let's start off with this quote from Frank Zappa, which I brought- Musical legend, by the way.
	Yes.
	Well, I'm not so familiar with his musical prowess, but this quote is something I brought up in a number of podcasts because it's just so on the money.
	The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue that illusion.
	At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, and they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	The reason I mention that will become apparent as we start talking about Darth Moraz.
	Is it Morales?
	I don't know.
	But he looks very evil.
	This is a wizard.
	No, this is actually a Brazilian Supreme Court Justice.
	Supreme Emperor of the Galaxy.
	Yeah, for those who are listening, he's basically dressed as Darth Vader but without the helmet.
	In fact, that bit of whatever it is, Return of the Jedi, when you see him with his helmet off and he's got that sort of warped, bald head, it's very fitting actually.
	I mean, presumably, that's what Supreme Court justices in Brazil wear, I would imagine.
	That's just him, everyone else is wearing normal clothes!
	He's even got the Darth Vader cape as well.
	That's the wonderful thing.
	I bet he listens to, you know, the Imperial March when he's doing his movies.
	And the other thing I was a bit confused about with this, sorry, I am getting to the point, dear listener, but the other thing I was a bit confused about with this is why is his cape sort of billowing up like that?
	I mean, is he trying to recreate the Marilyn Monroe scene where he's standing over a subway grill as it all flares up?
	Or the other thing that occurred to me on this is maybe because he's got that lovely big cape, Every so often when he's walking along, or maybe every time he enters a room, he just pulls off a tight little pirouette to send it all billowing out like that.
	Maybe that's a thing.
	He's really into ballet.
	Anyway, so that's a long way of saying, I can't pronounce his name, but Alexander D. Mraz, or whatever it is.
	Mraz.
	Mraz, yes.
	So he is the villain of this piece.
	There's his Wikipedia entry, which I won't put too much stock in, because of course it is Wikipedia, but... Alexandra, not even Alexander.
	Oh yes, it is, good point.
	He began wizarding school in 1990, graduated in 1995, right?
	He's now a grand wizard.
	Well, the point of referring to Wikipedia though, is it's not generally biased to the right.
	Yes, so it can be useful if you're looking up a left-wing character.
	So, you know, I'll just mention some of the key points from here that I've sort of picked out from this.
	So this Alexander G. Morass, is it?
	I presume so.
	I'm going to go with Morass.
	He's currently serving as the President of the Superior Electoral Court and as a Justice of the Supreme Federal Court.
	His Presidency of the Supreme Court came into issue during the 2022 Brazilian election.
	Making him the target of allegations and criticisms by former President Bolsonaro and his supporters.
	Now, that election will be coming up a couple of times in this segment.
	I just want to make it absolutely clear that that Brazilian election was won fair and square, 100%, and we know that this is true because YouTube will remove our channel if we say anything other.
	So, you know, they only censor things that are untrue.
	I tend to regard the YouTube content guidelines as, you know, a mountain of truth.
	Yes, it is the highest form of truth.
	Hail YouTube!
	Yes, absolutely right.
	I mean, and why would they ever censor something if it wasn't true?
	I mean, they got all the stuff over the... Everything else, right?
	Yeah, the two-year period.
	From a short while ago.
	They got all of that 100% right, so obviously they've got this right as well.
	Anyway, so he was a member of the Brazilian Social Democrat Party.
	He was appointed the Secretary of Public Security in San Paolo.
	His management was somewhat controversial because one out of every four homicides in that city was committed by the police.
	Which is... For a second I thought you were going to say committed by him.
	No!
	Well, one in four of all homicides.
	He was a busy man.
	I suppose he was an officer of the law, so I suppose it's possible.
	He didn't subclassify, so... Casting spells.
	Maybe he swoops down in his cape and drains the blood, I don't know.
	Muras has been involved in several corruption-related scandals.
	He was suspected of receiving four million from a company that was part of the nation's largest graft scheme being investigated by federal police.
	Despite several corruptions allegations, Muras was nominated Minister of the Supreme Court in 2017 You know how planes are?
	They're just so inevitably unreliable, aren't they?
	here we go um tory zavatsky um who was killed in a plane crash while overseeing the investigations of politicians linked to the nation's largest graph scheme you know how planes are they're just so inevitably unreliable aren't they you know if you get in a plane you're just you just get gambling with your life it's not like they're generally safer than say any other mode of transport i
	I always find it curious how many really incredibly convenient plane crashes there are in South America every time, you know, some, some politician or judge looks into the wrong thing.
	But, but in this case, um, even the left wing Wikipedia was pointing out that he was suspected of receiving all of this money.
	And then the guy who's looking into it just just happens to, um, you know, have an unfortunate plane crash and he then gets his job.
	And obviously the investigation was somewhat hampered, but I'm sure that's just coincidence.
	I'm sure he's just a very lucky man.
	In 2020, part of that same inquiry, federal police launched an operation probing businessmen, bloggers and politicians who just so happened to also be aligned with Bolsonaro.
	It's funny how that lines up.
	In 2022, Morass ordered the suspension of the messaging app Telegram because they weren't blocking accounts, which were Morass ordered the suspension of the messaging app Telegram because they weren't You know, disinformation, that's a terrible blight on this world.
	Well, yeah.
	And I assume that he is the one who determines what disinformation is.
	Of course.
	He's infallible.
	He's not even scarcely even human.
	He's so good at his job of discerning.
	Very possibly true actually.
	And in October 2022 the Supreme Court gave Morass the unilateral authority to order the removal of online content as part of an effort to combat further disinformation.
	And apparently, according to Left-Wing Wikipedia, Bolsonaro supporters and legal experts have criticized the move, fearing that it might just possibly be allowing a censorship regime in.
	So anyway, we've got a bit of an update on that one.
	The other thing, of course, is that He was heavily involved in that 2022 Brazilian election, which, as we know, was 100% completely and utterly legitimate.
	Some people have said there were issues with voting machines and all that sort of stuff, but I discount those entirely because I would like us to continue to have a channel.
	There were also rumours of draconian laws being pushed through in favour of bribes.
	You know, corruption is not a problem in South America.
	It's never been a problem and never will be.
	No, no, certainly not.
	Well, actually, no, I think we can say for all the other ones, just for some reason the Brazilian election is... Well, I just mean corruption more generally, as a sort of culture that is just simply not present.
	Yes, but not in Brazil.
	Not in Brazil, no.
	No, some people say, incorrectly of course, The Brazilians are going through a rather dictatorial process, you know, disguised as a democracy.
	The social networks are being routinely censored, opposition political parties are getting their mandates revoked, banned from running in elections, and some have even been arrested, all largely on this chap's orders.
	I don't think that's just Brazil.
	That's a decent amount of the world are going through that questionable phase, aren't they?
	Some would say yes, but because of this chap, and I'm getting his name wrong again, but you know, Darth Morass or whatever his name is.
	He wanted to use Twitter to censor his opponents, and that's caused a bit of a drama lately.
	He wanted to go after certain sitting members of Brazil's Congress and journalists and other political opponents, including, I don't know if this means anything, but apparently they're big names in Brazil, Carla Zambelli.
	So, anyway, to give a quick recap on this situation, we've got this long post here from Michael Schellenberger, but hopefully he includes a video which I will quickly play because it's sort of useful to our case here.
	So let's hear what's been going on in Brazil.
	Hey everyone, it's Mike Schellenberger, and I'm reporting to you at this moment from Brazil, where a dramatic series of events are underway.
	At 5.52 p.m.
	Eastern Time today, April 6, 2024, X Corporation, formerly known as Twitter, announced that a Brazilian court had forced it to, quote, block certain popular accounts in Brazil.
	Then, less than one hour later, the owner of X, Elon Musk, announced that X would defy the court's order and lift all restrictions.
	As a result, said Musk, we will probably lose all revenue in Brazil and have to shut down our office there.
	The principles matter more than profit, he added.
	At any moment, Brazil's Supreme Court could shut off all access to ex-Twitter for the people of Brazil.
	It is not an exaggeration to say that Brazil is on the brink of dictatorship at the hands of a totalitarian Supreme Court Justice named Alexandre de Moraes.
	President Lula da Silva is also participating in this push towards totalitarianism.
	Since taking office, Lula has massively increased government funding of the mainstream corporate news media, most of which are encouraging increased censorship.
	What Lula and Jim Moraes are doing is an outrageous violation of Brazil's constitution as well as the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights.
	At this moment, Brazil is not yet a dictatorship.
	It still has elections and the Brazilian people have other means at their disposal to confront authoritarianism.
	At the same time, the Federal Supreme Court and the Superior Electoral Court, which it controls, are directly interfering in those elections through censorship.
	Three days ago, I arrived in Brazil and published the Twitter files for Brazil.
	They show that Jim Moraes has violated the Brazilian constitution in multiple ways.
	He illegally demanded that Twitter reveal private information about Twitter users who used hashtags that he considered inappropriate.
	He demanded access to Twitter's internal data, violating the platform's policy.
	He censored, on his own initiative, without any respect for due process, posts on Twitter by parliamentarians from the Brazilian Congress.
	And Moraes tried to turn Twitter's content moderation policies into a weapon against supporters of then-president Jair Bolsonaro.
	I say all of this as an independent and nonpartisan journalist.
	I'm not a fan of either Bolsonaro or Trump.
	My own political views are very moderate, but I know censorship when I see it.
	The Twitter files revealed also that Google, Facebook, Uber, WhatsApp, and Instagram betrayed the people of Brazil.
	If this evidence is proven and admitted to, the executives of those companies behaved like cowards.
	They provided the Brazilian government with personal registration data and telephone numbers without a court order.
	Therefore, they violated the Brazilian laws.
	When Twitter refused, to their credit, to provide Brazilian authorities with private user information, including direct messages, the government of Brazil attempted to sue and hold Brazil's top Twitter attorney in criminal contempt.
	When I was in Brazil in 1992, at the time, the slogan of the Workers' Party was, without fear of being happy.
	In recent days, I've spoken to dozens of Brazilians, including professors, journalists, and respected lawyers.
	All of them told me that they are shocked by what is happening here.
	They told me that they themselves are afraid to speak their mind, and that the Lula government, the Workers' Party government, is complicit in creating this climate of fear.
	Look, Brazil belongs to the Brazilians.
	It's not my country, so there's limits to what I'm capable of doing.
	But what I can say is that there are many Brazilians who do not feel safe saying what must be said.
	Alexandre de Moraes is a tyrant, and the only way to deal with tyrants is to confront them.
	It's up to Brazil's senators now to confront this tyrant, and it's up to the people of Brazil to demand that their senators do so.
	In 1992, my best Brazilian friend gave me a t-shirt that I loved.
	On it was a cartoon of Brazil's military dictators who had painted the sky black.
	Beside them were children who were smiling and throwing stars up into the dark sky.
	It said they painted the sky black, but we brought back the stars.
	Alexandre de Mordaes and Lula are painting the sky black.
	The time has come for the Brazilian people to let the light...
	So I picked that out because that is, you know, one of a number of sort of growing examples of how this guy is going a little bit off the rails at this point.
	You know, rather sort of happily banning people using his power to the utmost extent.
	You know, I give you a sort of out of context example.
	My old man early on in his career was a police officer.
	One of the things he told me is that, and I found this quite interesting, I don't know if this is still the case, but if there was ever a traffic accident involving a police car and a civilian, Regardless of circumstances, the police would always accept liability.
	So even if the police stopped at a roundabout and somebody just came and hit them from behind, they would always accept liability.
	And the reason they did that is because they felt it was so important to not just be impartial and fair.
	They wanted to be seen to be impartial and fair.
	They didn't want any accusation that they were not acting in an impartial and fair and judicious manner.
	What happens when a state just decides, you know what?
	Sob this.
	We're just going to use the full extent of our powers and we just don't care to crush our opposition.
	Like this!
	Well, yes.
	It's not exactly a long-lived strategy because people who do that, their time in power all of a sudden has a clock ticking.
	You don't know what that time is, but Well, the point is, once you start going down that road, and we're not saying this happened in Brazil, because it definitely didn't, but if you start rigging elections and doing other naughty things and weaponising the legal process to go after your political opponents, Um, which also has never happened in the United States.
	Are we allowed to say that now?
	We're allowed to say that.
	Oh, okay.
	Which has definitely happened in the United States recently.
	Basically, once you cross that line, you can't let yourself lose an election again.
	That line, that line has been crossed.
	So obviously, look, this guy was going after, as Glenn Greenwald, was it Glenn Greenwald?
	Michael Schellenberger.
	Oh, Michael Schellenberger, yeah.
	As Michael Schellenberger was saying there, you know, the Supreme Court was reaching out and saying, you know, censor our opponents, stop these people from talking, because they want to be the final arbiters of the truth.
	What I found even more disturbing was this next bit when Elon was talking about, let's go into this, about the way that they wanted it to be done.
	That's from Judge Alexander.
	- That's from this Judge Alexander.
	That's his name on Twitter, @Alexander.
	And there would be to suspend accounts, Immediately, we were given typically two hours to suspend an account or face massive fines.
	And the final choice, we were being given demands to suspend sitting members of the Parliament and major journalists.
	And moreover, we could not tell them that this was at the behest of Uh, Alexander Morales, we had to pretend that it was due to our rules of service.
	And that was the final straw.
	And we said, no.
	That's dark.
	It shouldn't have even got that far really.
	If, if a government asks you to sense people, you should be like, no, no.
	If it truly is the platform of free speech as Elon touts it, surely you shouldn't even consider it.
	We know this has already happened before, before Elon.
	While we got the Twitter files from the United States, and it is the case, the United States government, specifically Biden's regime, decided that they were going to demand that a series of people would be banned from Twitter and everywhere else.
	And they had to pretend it was because of terms of service, but it was nothing to do with the terms of service.
	It was just because the Biden government didn't like them.
	I look back on now, do you remember that, was it a Joe Rogan interview, where it was Jack Dorsey, that something, Varsity woman, his head of trust.
	I know the one you're on about, yeah.
	The political officer, basically, for Twitter.
	What's that, sorry, John?
	Vijaya.
	Be careful how you say this one.
	Okay, for JJ and Tim Pool.
	And I remember looking at the time thinking, and it was weird.
	And Jack's behavior, and that was kind of weird.
	And a lot of people were saying that he felt like he was trapped or something like that.
	He was part of this organization that got away from him.
	And I suppose in light of current events, it probably wasn't the organization itself that got away from him.
	It was three letter agencies and the American legal system was saying, no, you have to do this and you have to pretend that it's your decision.
	Well, when he resigned as Twitter CEO or whatever it was, when Elon took over, I can't remember exactly the timings of everything, but basically he seemed to be very repentant and he's just like, yeah, a lot, we made a lot of mistakes and I kind of regret how many people we censored.
	You could argue that he was just trying to save his skin because he'd become so unpopular, but I think that there was a certain amount of genuine repentance there.
	Yeah, I think that probably is the case, that he regrets some of the things.
	It would have been nice if he was being lent on by governmental forces to make him do those things, because Twitter was awful.
	For Elon Musk, it was just... I mean, I had an account, but I didn't use it much because I just thought, well, what's the point?
	I'm just going to get banned off it as soon as I say something interesting, so I didn't use it that much.
	You know maybe it really was the case that he was he was hemmed in by three law agencies and and you know the courts and all the rest of it that were forcing him to to do that stuff against his will and now Elon Musk has sort of just come out and blatantly saying it I mean yes in the context of Brazil in this case but I mean as you pointed out the Twitter files released the information which no mainstream journalist has gone anywhere near.
	You're like this Josh because you make the point of just refusing point blank that's what that's what Rumble did.
	Yes, well done Rumble.
	I feel bad for Rumble because none of us use it as much as we should.
	We do upload everything to Rumble.
	You know, we've got a dedicated following on there, I think.
	Yes.
	So we're doing our bit.
	Yes.
	But I mean, it would just be so nice if there was some sort of sentient virus, computer virus that came along and just took out Google.
	Because these guys... I'm not sure you can say that.
	No, no, I don't believe that.
	That'd be awful if that happened.
	But no, it just, you know, these guys are doing good work.
	And it's always so unfair that The monopoly position of the big G. They get overlooked.
	But no, Rumble were very based on this.
	Very based indeed.
	So they weren't doing it.
	Elon went a different route.
	And he just said, yeah, just use it.
	Just if you're in Brazil, use a VPN.
	That's good advice as well, I suppose.
	Elon doesn't care.
	So he just went for this.
	And of course, you know, the mainstream has kicked in their opinion as well.
	So the New York Times have gone with, on this, on Darth Maras, they ask, he is Brazil's defender of democracy.
	Is he actually good for democracy?
	The byline being, a Brazilian Supreme Court justice was crucial to Brazil's transfer of power.
	That's interesting.
	So, are we suggesting that the transfer of power might not have happened?
	No, no, I'm not suggesting that.
	But his aggressive tactics are prompting debate.
	Can one go too far to fight the far right?
	Quick note on journalism.
	Whenever a question ends with a question mark, the answer is no.
	As it is in this case.
	I mean, this is the kind of standard playbook, isn't it, that we've got now in the modern world, which is, one, you label people that you don't like as far-right.
	Two, you ask yourself the question, what is it that you're not allowed to do when combating the far-right?
	Three, the answer is nothing.
	There is nothing that you cannot do when combating the far-right, which is the situation we're in now.
	But, you know, where is this sort of sentiment coming from?
	Because it's actually really quite unusual for a large US corporation to get treated in this way.
	It doesn't often happen.
	And the reason that doesn't often happen is because normally the State Department is there to do its job and to intervene and protect the interests of large U.S. businesses.
	And it's just interesting to note that that sort of thing isn't happening on this occasion.
	It's almost like right-wing populist leaders are upsetting a global order.
	Oh yes, yes.
	But that seems to be a more recent thing because when Twitter was under prior management I seem to remember that Iran got some sanctions applied against it for putting the clamps on Twitter.
	But all of a sudden now, You know, they are at a minimum stepping back.
	Let's see what the big guy has to say on the subject.
	Now, I will play you this video.
	I have to warn you that we try and maintain a certain pace in these segments.
	This chap is going to ruin my pacing.
	I promise I have not slowed him down.
	This is actually how he talks.
	So let's listen to the big guy.
	On an unrelated note, donating money to dementia is a noble cause.
	Operation Endor.
	Endor?
	Isn't that a planet?
	Technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at.
	Whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, I'm not suggesting that.
	I'm suggesting that it's worth being looked at.
	But that's all I'll say.
	There's a lot of ways.
	All right, I think that... That was a point well made.
	Elon Musk.
	Oh, he won't shut up though.
	Stop talking, old man.
	There you go.
	Oh, no.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	Right, there we go.
	Just on a side note, I just feel bad for this guy.
	What, Joe Biden?
	He should be in a home.
	He should be getting a little blanket draped across his knees and staring out the window or something.
	I have a strange urge to have a nap and a fruit sweet after watching that.
	But yeah, so there's Biden doing his thing.
	Elon, his relationship with other countries needs to be looked at.
	Which is strangely reminiscent of his call a little while ago, previous to this, where he said that Elon's relationship with regulatory agencies needs to be looked at.
	And then something like, you know, several dozen federal agencies then started investigating Elon on sort of frivolous grounds across his various businesses.
	And here's Biden saying that, oh look, wouldn't it be handy if, you know, some foreign entity were to pick a fight with Elon?
	Now we know that the three-letter agency, the Deep State in the US, is sort of balls deep in South America.
	It has been for many years and that is very well documented with declassified documents and autobiographies and all the rest of it that we've had out of that.
	That's so uncontroversial that even socialist Noam Chomsky wrote an entire book about it.
	Well, yes.
	Case in point.
	But, you know, I'm just looking at this.
	We know that the deep state of which this man is a representative doesn't like Elon.
	They've got their hooks well and truly in all across South America.
	The State Department is not playing its usual role.
	Is it possible that this is perhaps some sort of test ground Because, you know, Twitter is a problem for these guys, but the First Amendment is also a problem.
	But what if you can find some sort of, you know, some sort of way around that?
	And also it throws up some other interesting questions.
	This Maras chap, he started criminal investigations into Elon Musk.
	What happens if he issues an arrest warrant?
	Would the US extradite him?
	Would they go that far?
	That would be very controversial, wouldn't it?
	Yeah.
	I wonder whether they would do it.
	But any time will tell.
	I bet somebody in the White House has had a meeting about whether they could get away with it.
	So there is that.
	Final note, I'll close on.
	I just thought it's a little bit interesting that Facebook It's never come under censure anywhere in the world, as far as I'm aware.
	I'm pretty sure the only time it has been partially censored was some of the Arab Springs, maybe?
	I think there was brief shutdowns, but also a lot of the things were organized on it.
	That's if I'm remembering rightly, it's obviously been a long time.
	It's been over 10 years, I think.
	But yeah, interesting that the social media companies run by a left-leaning Democrat just doesn't have these issues that one run by basically an old-fashioned Democrat centrist has, so that is interesting.
	Anyway, I'm sure it's nothing, but yeah, something slightly suspicious is going on in Brazil.
	Alrighty.
	Let's hear about the local man.
	Local man doing local things with local people.
	Right.
	A local man has found out that it turns out maybe he was wrong.
	And this man in this case being Nadja Farage.
	This isn't a pop of Farage as you'll notice as I get through this.
	He always has known this, but hasn't been saying it publicly.
	So this is him saying here, it's a poll that came out of British Muslims.
	And the poll says that only 25% believe that Hamas commit murder and rape.
	About half sympathize with Hamas.
	52% want it illegal to show an image of Mohammed.
	32% want to see Sharia law implemented in the UK.
	Of course, that's British Muslims.
	You go outside of Britain, these numbers get much, much higher or lower, depending on which part of that you're looking at.
	Hang on a minute.
	So presumably there is a crossover where they believe that Hamas commit murder and rape, and they also sympathize with them.
	Yeah, there'll be some percentage.
	You didn't give us that one.
	What do you think anti-colonialism looks like, Josh?
	So he responds to this by tweeting it out and saying, this poll should be on the front page of every newspaper in Britain today.
	The findings are genuinely terrifying, but it's also not a surprise.
	Yeah, this is old news, isn't it, really?
	Yeah, I mean, as John linked me to, this is YouGov, this is the poll here, and YouGov decided to word this as only 11% who sympathize with Palestinians' approval for mass.
	Only!
	Only 11% of the Muslims we polled like Hamas, a certified terrorist group in this country, so it's illegal to even give them moral support.
	That is a crime under the terrorism act of 2003.
	Think of the numbers too, though, because about 3,000 people turned up to the Palestinian marches, which means you're dealing with about 33,000 people who sympathize with Hamas.
	We don't have that capacity to even watch them in the intelligence service, never mind imprison them for breaking the law.
	Well, especially since the intelligence services are almost certainly spending their time on people who agree with us rather than that stuff.
	Well, yeah, there has been a big push to prevent our sort of anti-terror The security service published a document a while ago saying that they were spending most of their time on right-wing terrorism.
	Yeah, I think they reclassified it in 2021 and the reclassification of looking out for the far right and far-right terrorists led them to lots of pensioners and actually all these old people in their care homes with their far-right views.
	We're considered threats to the nation.
	But the gist is Callum is right.
	We don't have the spare capacity, especially with all that side project.
	That's a huge number.
	I mean, I think we have the capacity to watch.
	I think it's 30,000.
	My five guy a while back came out and said, and that's just the capacity to watch them.
	So we have, even in the singular incident of the singular view of Dewsport, which is a prescribed terrorist group in the United Kingdom, we get roughly about 30,000, 33,000.
	Which maxes out even the watching, never mind the jail, because that's actually a crime.
	But I remember the good old days, when Nigel Farage left UKIP, because I was there for all this, back in time.
	And of course, he left UKIP on the basis that it was being taken over by tattooed racist thugs, his words.
	And those tattooed racist thugs were Tommy Robinson and his followers, because Gerald Batten wanted to make an issue of the fact that, hey, Islam is pretty different, and if we let loads of people in en masse who believe in Islam, they'll have some pretty wacky views, I hear.
	I knew Gerald back in the day.
	He's a perfectly sensible chap.
	Yeah, well Gerard just made these great, well, basic points, and as you can see, Nigel left.
	Weirdly, I happen to know that this is all a lie.
	Because, of course, Nigel Farage knows.
	I mean, if you go back and check his tweets, it's about 2017-2018, and he just stops talking about Islam.
	Because he's left UKIP and wants to do his bit as the Brexit party.
	And the reason I know it's a lie is because, well, I got working with Gerald and got to know the inner workings of UKIP.
	And UKIP had a fatal flaw, which is that if you became leader, you couldn't do sheet.
	The National Executive Committee were the people in charge of the whole thing, fundamentally.
	And even if the leader wanted to do something and they said no, he was screwed.
	And if they just decided they didn't like the leader, he was screwed.
	Do you remember people saying on the left that, you know, UKIP, they want to become dictatorial.
	They're going to govern, you know, even... Least dictatorial place I've ever been.
	Yeah.
	Controlled by a committee.
	In what sense is the leader of UKIP an actual leader then?
	None.
	And they pay for the privilege.
	It's like if you ever go to a football game and they have a mascot.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That's what they should have.
	So you have to spend five grand on running for leader.
	That's just the entrance fee.
	Then you have to run.
	Then you have to win.
	Then you become leader.
	And then you spend years of your life unpaid, being the leader and taking obviously all the sinks and arrows that nobody else takes because you're the front man.
	And that sucks.
	That's something Nigel Farage hated.
	It's the reason that there was a subsequent list of leaders for UKIP and it was a bit of a mess.
	Something Gerard had to deal with.
	And then I happen to know that, well, Richard Brain I worked with.
	He was the leader after Gerard.
	The reason he disappeared is because of exactly that problem.
	He found out he couldn't do sheet.
	Was he also the one that was fairly sensible but he was there for about two weeks or something?
	Yeah, and the fundamental problem was he couldn't do anything.
	It was annoying.
	He found out the same thing everyone else did.
	I like Josh's suggestion.
	They should have Kippy the Bear as the mascot.
	He could be the leader, and the National Exec can just do their thing.
	He just goes around giving people hugs, and then when the media say, look at these far-right evil people, he's like, how can you not like Kippy the Bear?
	Exactly.
	Yes.
	We've solved it.
	In two minutes.
	So, I mean, this is just kind of funny checking back in the good old days.
	I remember this.
	It was a leak.
	Someone was trying to smear Richard by releasing his email.
	What did the email say?
	He compared Muslims to Nazis.
	Wow, that aged well.
	Wow, that's terrible.
	Yeah, I mean, in what sense?
	Well, they're not good marchers, so it can't be that.
	They're not big fans of a certain people.
	That is true, that is true, yep.
	Here's the email if you want to read it, in which he says, there is a nonsense of a moderate Muslim, it's trouted out, repeatedly trotted out.
	Those Muslims and their trout.
	Trotted out repeatedly by so many people with good intentions but willful ignorance of Islamic teaching.
	There is no moderate Islam.
	Get used to it.
	It's a fact.
	When people talk about moderate Muslims, they are making an error.
	It is like saying Hitler wasn't such a bad fella.
	Quite a laugh, actually.
	An entertaining speaker.
	A patron of the arts.
	He loved Wagner.
	He made trade runs on time.
	Sorry, the trains run on time.
	And just had smart uniforms.
	It is to completely ignore the ideology of which the person is religiously wedded.
	So this was an internal email and it has all this humor in it.
	Yes.
	What a legend.
	Richard was great.
	Very funny guy.
	Very charismatic.
	I like that.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	That's the sort of email I would send.
	Yeah.
	This leaked email just made him look better.
	The whole reason I brought that out is not only because, you know, it aged well, because I mean, now we go to the thing Najaf Raj is complaining about publicly.
	It's like, hmm, yeah, those Palestinian protests.
	A little bit swastikary.
	I don't know if you've seen.
	Yes.
	This is the police, the London police, the diversity police, coming out and saying, well, have you thought about the swastikas in context?
	It's not that they've gone to a Buddhist temple or something like that, where it's just like, well, there's a religious context of thousands of years where, you know, this symbol was used and co-opted by the mid-century Germans.
	The Hindus use it as well, Buddhists.
	Oh, do the Buddhists use it as well?
	I always thought it was suspicious.
	Sorry, Callum.
	Funnily enough, the Indians and the Buddhists of Myanmar are not big fans of Islam.
	Don't care much for Palestine.
	No way!
	They're not on the marches.
	I mean, just going back to his point in that leaked email, because with Islam, radical Islam, or moderate Islam, or however you want to describe it, or just Islam, it's... Swastika Islam.
	Yes.
	Mid-century Islam.
	Yes, but to Richard's point, you get all the bad bits of Nazism without the good bits.
	You're not going to get... You're not going to get trains running on time.
	You're not going to get smart Hugo Boss uniforms.
	And what was it, Wagner?
	Yeah, I like Wagner.
	Which one?
	It's a bit camp for my taste, ironically.
	The music?
	Okay.
	Yeah, so trains, Hugo Boss uniforms and music, I mean, but you don't get any of that in Islam, do you?
	No, it's a Karam.
	You just get the very questionable bits.
	I think you've unintentionally dug your own grave in that sentence.
	Yes, that might come up in the future, I feel.
	Ah yes, I'm running now for the Conservative Party.
	The Labour Party are interested.
	Those uniforms were quite pucker.
	Back to the story, so the point being that obviously Urger Farage kind of shuts up because he doesn't want to talk about Islam and that was kind of silly, and instead now he's dealing with the reality of that which is that if you don't deal with the issue of, well, the differences, you end up with mass marches in London with swastikas.
	And I might give a crap about the context except it's the diversity of beliefs, the kind of people who put Dankular away because he dared to ask for context.
	But very sloppy marching in London, not the Yeah.
	Not even the cool marching.
	Yes.
	Not even that impressive stuff.
	Those... Yes.
	Don't even have the architecture, do they?
	No.
	Terrible, really.
	But the people involved... The police in London are just liars.
	Just real quick.
	I don't know if you've seen this.
	So this is a bunch of posters that have Hitler on them.
	And you should resist by any means necessary against... Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	So let's just bear in mind...
	Very recently a sensible family man called Sam Malaya has gone to jail because he went to a friend's gym and that gym had an ironic poster of Hitler doing a pull-up and that was the basis of which he was deemed to be a fascist and therefore had to go to jail for two years.
	And these people have got Not ironic pictures of Hitler, and this is fine.
	And they also have the imagery here of violence.
	I mean, I've got Malcolm X there, but it's literally Hamas didn't do nothing is the fundamental message there.
	But it's fine because the police say that these photos of placards have been shown online.
	But we believe, it came to me in a dream, that they were taken during a vehicle stop by officers.
	And as a result, they weren't distributed.
	They weren't displayed in the crowd.
	Therefore, it's fine.
	Well, nor was Santa Maria's bloody sh... distributed in public.
	It was in a gym of a mate's house.
	Also, they're just lying, they were.
	There's the guy with that sign.
	Being distributed.
	Outside the home office, actually, behind him.
	That's what that building is.
	That's kind of funny, isn't it?
	It's like standing out... It's like being the town rapist, and then standing outside the local police station, doing a jig.
	I don't know, it's just... Come and get me if you can.
	As long as it's some sort of Pakistani variant of the jig, you'll probably be fine.
	Yeah, but getting back to my thing about the local man is that when it comes to Gaza, quite a lot of, I'm going to say, mainstream writers have a difference.
	All of a sudden, once upon a time, speaking of these differences was haram.
	It was something we should not do as a right-wing public figure.
	It's disgusting that this is happening in Egypt.
	Now, obviously, he was actually miffed about the leadership thing.
	I get it.
	That's not an unfair complaint, but it was a lie to say that it was all about Islamic speaking in Egypt.
	And when it comes to Gaza, no.
	All bolts.
	It's allowed.
	Say whatever you wish.
	And as you can see, Farage saying here, I wonder why Rishi Sunak stays neutral on the hospital bombing in Gaza.
	The Americans were clear that it was the fault of Hamas.
	Perhaps he's too scared of the reaction on our streets.
	Why would he be?
	Because you know, you know that the pushback here is from a certain section of the British community.
	That's a laughable phrase.
	But it's just you and I, Callum.
	Yeah, it's me, Josh and Dan who are out... Oh, shut up.
	Yeah, it's just silly.
	You know, you know what's going on here.
	And it goes on.
	So this is him responding here.
	I think Elon Musk talking about the argument that loads of Palestinians should be sent to the West because there may be terrorists in Israel, but once they get to the West, they become doctors, lawyers and engineers.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	I know this one.
	It's because we have magic soil.
	Good, good.
	You also have the beans.
	And Nigel Farage responds, if the West takes in Palestinian refugees, a significant percentage would be Hamas sympathisers.
	This is a national security risk.
	Yes, yes, it would be.
	So, Lokoman knows.
	Lokoman is well aware.
	Lokoman has always been aware.
	But...
	You know and you keep up with this if you know the world's changing.
	And the right thing to do is to keep with it and, you know, speak the truth whenever possible.
	Not just because it's Gaza.
	I'm a little bit... This isn't about, actually, Najib Raj.
	This is a routine problem.
	And I'm sure it's the case that Washington people and the United States are the same.
	We just have it here with Westminster people who are obsessed with that crowd.
	But let's go on to his replacement, of course, in Reform, because I saw this.
	This is the replacement for Nigel Farage, which is Richard Tice.
	He's done another oopsie, which is he came out and gave a speech in which he was glad that Hope Not Hate controlled him.
	He added, one of the reasons we put our candidate list out so early ahead of many other parties is though they were open to scrutiny from various organizations and the media.
	In that sense, it's a good thing.
	It's a good thing.
	It's a good thing that a communist agi-prop organisation like Hope Not Hate is cucking you publicly.
	They're helping us with the vetting process.
	Our candidates will be selected by communists and the mainstream media, and that's a good thing.
	So I've already put my foot in it well and truly this segment, so I might as well just go one step further.
	uh-oh do you say it into the mic yeah yeah yes um uh isn't isn't he dating some some journalist or something but i mean at this point i have to wonder if if this nick lowles chap from from hope not hate turned up at his house and said mr tice i would like to go on your well i won't i won't I'd like to fuck your wife.
	Please, please, please.
	That's what I was alluding to.
	Help me with the vetting process.
	Maybe she's good in bed, you'll know.
	Yes.
	Would Tice just sort of get out the opera glasses and the popcorn?
	I mean, is there no limit to the cucking that this man will do?
	Genuinely revolting.
	Just revolting to even read.
	And this is a man who has failed.
	This is just a local man who has failed to keep up with the times and understand anything, and instead is now at the point of, oh yes, you're jolly good at fucking my wife, aren't you?
	It's very nice.
	And we know this because his mortal enemy, or should be, if you were, you know, a populist right party or even a right-wing party, local communist Nick Lolls is out here Posting memes about how cucked you are?
	I mean, I'm not even joking.
	Here's the cuck meme.
	Here's you, getting cucked.
	Posted by Nick Lowles.
	And Nick Lowles is the one who posted this.
	He is reveling.
	Reveling in the fact that he's made this man his cuck bitch.
	You're going to fill your holes.
	Here you are, in a Dom and Sub situation.
	The only gays in the village, of course.
	Here is also you, getting your posts allowed or disallowed.
	And the last one here, giving you the gay race communism vaccine.
	So I saw that and I had to immediately reshare it because I mean this is not just victory, Nick Lowell's and hope not hate, this is total spectrum domination victory.
	Well, Tice is as weed on the rug and Nick Lowles is rubbing his nose in it to remind him of what he's done, right?
	And the thing that gets me is, right, can Tice not see, could he not see from the beginning that this is a massive trap?
	Because what Hope Not Hate did is they started with a couple of what they felt were the most controversial candidates, like Bo out there.
	And I mean, it was easy with Bo because he's done so many hundreds of hours of footage.
	You can always find something like the Scottish thing where he said the only thing the Scottish have ever produced of note is, what was it, Iron Brew and Smack?
	Now, you know, he mentioned that on this podcast.
	We've got a lot of Scottish viewers and they went with the joke and they started adding in the extra stuff like, you know, whatever it is.
	Bow did add tramps, yeah.
	Yes, yes.
	Also insisting that they don't export these things.
	They quite like them at home.
	Yes.
	It's also worth mentioning that Scots in this office are over-represented.
	Like, even I'm half Scottish.
	Yes.
	But then it got to Ian Harris, who wore a colander for a laugh.
	Yes, but no, no, the point I'm coming to on this is, did Tyson not appreciate That they're drip feeding these out, and they made them cancel the first set of candidates, the first three, and then they did another three and they got cancelled as well.
	Does TICE genuinely not realise that Hope Not Hate are just going to drip this out for months between now and the election?
	And we've now got a state where reform, you must have somebody sat in reform's office with the Hope Not Hate website open, just clicking F6 or whatever the refresh button is, to see who they've got to cancel and they're going to be doing this for bloody months it is it is an obvious trap why the hell have you walked into it you boomer and the reason i bring this up is not because it's you know funny horrific and everything else it's just a great another example of a local man um finding out which is that you're retarded i'm sorry
	Difficult diagnosis, but that's what you have become because you have not managed this even slightly in the correct manner.
	I mean, there are a myriad of different strategies you could do in response to someone saying, your candidate said the racism.
	I mean, you can ignore them.
	You can say, we'll do our own vetting.
	Thank you very much.
	Uh, you can tell them.
	Yes.
	You could do your own racism or you could kick them, which is something he did and then shut up.
	And instead he has been endlessly posting about how great he is and giving speeches about how this is a good thing.
	What we really need is to have a political leader for one of these parties who just responds with a good meme.
	That's the sort of thing we need.
	I have a prediction on the political side, which is I think Nigel Farage will just end up replacing Tice soon after the election.
	And this will be the way of trying to get rid of this failure.
	But there we are.
	But this isn't about that.
	This is about local men.
	Effing around and finding out.
	Because there's another local man.
	Tom Harris, man you've never heard of.
	He's got a solution to all you youngsters who can't get a house.
	This really annoyed me because... Just buy a house.
	Oh, that's clever.
	Yes.
	Have you tried that?
	Yes.
	I am one of these youngsters and it's not that easy.
	Just buy a house if you're homeless.
	I don't... Shut up.
	That is such a wonderfully boomer response.
	It's like, well, I wanted a house in the New Forest.
	I didn't have one, so I just bought one.
	You know, what's the problem?
	He responds here.
	It's an article for the listeners.
	Working less won't help young people on the housing ladder.
	Too many seem to believe they are so special that they can rely on the magnanimity of the state and its employers to come to the rescue.
	Thank you, Tom.
	But it's the state that's the fault of...
	Me not being able to buy a house in the first place anyway.
	So the magnanimity of the state with the two largest line items are the NHS and pensions.
	So let's see if we can take a shot every time he mentions immigration, shall we?
	I don't have any water left.
	Oh, you won't need any.
	So he says rents aren't unaffordable.
	Young people just don't want to work.
	We should welcome rising house prices as much needed incentive for the work-shy generation.
	I'm almost impressed.
	Two major events in recent memory have contributed in the sense that the current generation of young people have had their life chances stolen from them.
	So he's aware.
	He says the first is the credit crunch associated with the financial crisis of 2008, the consequences of which, even now, we have yet to appreciate.
	The second cause of grief for living standards and aspirations of the current generation is, of course, the COVID pandemic.
	More specifically, the lockdowns, yeah.
	First of all, the fallout from 2008, which apparently we are yet to appreciate.
	I've got an entire series on that subject.
	Why go into that at some length?
	Wasn't it like a tenth as bad as the lockdowns?
	Well, real wages in the United Kingdom haven't returned to 2008 levels.
	GDP per capita has not returned to 2008 levels.
	The UK didn't recover.
	Ever.
	We're still poorer than we were in 2008.
	It's not... It's not... It just failed.
	The United States is richer.
	They bounced back.
	We did not.
	Okay, there's some truth in that.
	That's where the money fountain is located, so that helps.
	But the thing he didn't mention was immigration once.
	You know, the actual demand side for housing.
	That's not relevant to the price of houses.
	It's almost like he's completely ignorant of economics.
	Supply and demand dictate housing prices, and that's The housing prices have quadrupled in the past, what, 20 years?
	Well, and it's two supply and demand dynamics.
	One is the supply and demand of the houses themselves and the people who want to go in them.
	The other one is the supply and demand of credit.
	Well, he has a solution, which is you guys just aren't working enough hours.
	Young people, sorry, young workers face the prospect of being able to buy their own homes Only in their late 30s or even 40s, unless they can rely upon generous handouts from wealthy parents, further institutionalizing the disparity this country's haves and have-nots have.
	The growth in rents is set to outstrip wages for the next three years, including what it's already done.
	The issue will only become more salient.
	Of course, higher wages for less work would suit many.
	When have such a prospect not been popular?
	No one is asking for that.
	No one is asking, give me more money for less work.
	They are asking for... Could you turn off the immigration?
	Just for a little bit?
	Just for a week?
	How about a day?
	An hour?
	An hour would actually help if you did that.
	I've just noticed there are 1015 comments on this at time of recording, which for a Telegraph article is a lot.
	Let's have a look at the best rated rather than the newest because those are normally the best bellwether or how most people feel.
	Oh there we go.
	Blame mass immigration.
	It's immigration.
	Immigration.
	I'll end this off though, he says, unless some top secret economic theory has been unearthed which turns financial unorthodoxy on its head and promises extra productivity in exchange for less work and higher unaffordable wages, the only solution apparent facing the current crisis of young people is to work more.
	I kind of want to unpick that last statement, but I would have to dismantle all of his assumptions that went into making it in the first place.
	to your own readers.
	I kind of want to unpick that last statement, but I would have to dismantle all of his assumptions that went into making it in the first place and it would just take too long so I won't bother.
	He ends it off with, it might be remembered that the current expectation of home ownership after securing your first job was not the reality for many.
	When the current generation of boomers and Gen X were children...
	Today's problems are not new.
	Previous generations face the same dilemmas.
	They have suffered long, difficult roads on the way to... Okay, shut up.
	Shut up.
	I'm not... I'm not entertaining this with bollocks for a minute longer.
	Spoken like a man who doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Because there's just people responding like, oh yeah, in the 80s the average house was three times the salary, today it's nine times.
	Shut up.
	Shut...
	I'm going mad and there's loads of delusional mugs out there because this is another example people brought up.
	Here's a house, now this was built in the 1930s for a middle-class family.
	It's now a million pounds.
	Almost, yeah.
	And you have to be in the top 0.5% of earners to get it on a mortgage.
	So no, no it is not the same!
	So I lived in a house a little bit like that when I was living in London and you know I was a venture capitalist earning quite well and my neighbours on either side, one guy worked in a shop and the other guy was a firefighter.
	Now those are perfectly respectable careers of course, the point is is that they were sort of in their 80s.
	No one who was a firefighter or worked in a shop these days would be living next to me in London.
	Really?
	They don't earn a hundred grand?
	Yes.
	That's weird.
	But this is just such a blatantly obvious point that...
	Well, anyway...
	What is there to even do?
	The whole point of all of this, that's another local man who just hasn't kept up and has failed.
	And the lesson of the story, I think, is that when the world changes, keep up.
	Because if you fail to do so, you alienate yourself from reality.
	And, my God, it has some disastrous consequences for how lunatic that you look at the end of that.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	So recently we've had two violets in my home state of Queensland.
	And the one I'll be talking about is Labor Heartland seat, the seat of West Ipswich.
	And this is for the state, this is for the state mind you, not the federal, but it translates into federal.
	Because of the two party preferred, it got broken down into LNP vs Labor.
	Labor had a negative 26% swing against them.
	They weren't going to win that seat back.
	And now the sitting Premier is shitting a prick because translate this into a statewide election and they'll be like your Tories.
	They'll only have four seats.
	It felt like he was driving very fast.
	Was that sped up at all?
	It was sped up, yes.
	But no, it's good to hear that the Labour Party in Australia aren't doing too well.
	I mean, I've been following that somewhat and it seems like they're putting their foot in it fairly often, so hopefully that translates into a rightward swing in Australia.
	Also, reducing the amount of authoritarianism would be nice.
	I saw your lockdowns, they were scary.
	Yes, yes, they bloody were, weren't they?
	To the next one.
	Hey Carl, you asked on the Zoom call, I think it was, for some scenes of the towns and cities where we live.
	So, put together a couple of images I've taken here.
	So, these are just a couple of vistas from across Swansea.
	Enjoy!
	I just wanted to show how Japan portrays England.
	Zenith windows?
	It looks so much nicer than Swindon.
	I've become so inured.
	To be fair, everywhere looks nicer than Swindon.
	Even the worst parts of Plymouth are nicer than Swindon.
	Can we move to the next one?
	I enjoyed that though, thank you.
	I just wanted to show how Japan portrays England.
	I'll think you get a kick out of it.
	Master, it is time for you to wake up.
	It's a perfect depiction of my house.
	that Professor Layton sold another mystery.
	One that had puzzled all of London.
	Yeah, London doesn't look like that anymore.
	We obviously scour the earth and have it remade from the memory of a Japanese person. - It's just remake Britain.
	You know about that Japanese guy who's been in charge of Peru?
	Oh yeah, you were telling me about this, weren't you?
	They had an election, they put this Japanese guy in charge of Peru, and his nickname was the Chinaman, because the Peruvians didn't care.
	Anyway, he decided to make himself dictator of Peru, as you do, and then genocided the natives.
	as in not the Peruvians, but the Indians.
	Oh.
	He had them all sterilized.
	And then did a whole bunch of stuff which grew the economy, so classic efficient dictator stuff.
	And then ended up fleeing the country because the dictatorship started to break down, so he went back to Japan.
	But I just love the idea.
	A Japanese man shows up, returns your country to right-wing paradise, and then leaves.
	Imagine that guy's CV and sitting down and interviewing him, and you get to that bit.
	Can you tell me about your time as being the dictator of Peru?
	It's like the Cincinnati of our times, isn't it?
	He comes in, saves the Republic, and returns home.
	I'm sure he's growing turnips.
	I would say that there might be some people complaining about him sterilizing all the natives, but they're all sterilized, so what are they going to do about it?
	Let's go to the written comments.
	What a transition!
	Baystape says, I've literally never heard a man claim they wanted to punch a woman for looking at their phone because they aren't paying attention to them.
	I have, however, seen hundreds of examples of women getting pretty violent and smashy when men play Xbox with their friends instead of paying attention to them though.
	I wonder if maybe she's projecting.
	To be honest, if a woman is distracted by her phone, it's normally a good move as a man to allow her to do that and thus you remain tranquil and peaceful.
	That is my two cents on it.
	I'll read one more because actually we've got time for two more.
	Thomas Howell, the iron law of corporate media crime stats that the shade of melanin is inversely proportional to the number of adjectives describing the criminal in an article.
	Yes.
	Joe Schmo, a leftist journalist, have a sixth sense which lets them identify Republicans with a single glance.
	They look at a man and if they are immediately attracted to him, that's it.
	He's a Republican.
	That's true.
	Oh, Fred Naught has actually donated $20 to us, so I better read that.
	Speaking of punching women, I punched a woman called Hamish McHaggis today because he was shooting up when I was trying to walk and pull the knife on me.
	I know he was a woman because of his skirt.
	That's some great anti-Scottish sentiment there.
	I'm allowed to do it because half of my family are Scottish, so it's fine.
	Yeah.
	Not that.
	They're Protestant Scots.
	Oh, I was just keeping myself safe from your Scottish genes.
	Right, on my segment we've got... The Shadow Band came in from Rumble with $25, so thank you very much.
	Big thumbs up to you, who says, some people use Rumble.
	Yes, very good.
	We like you.
	Well done.
	Do that more.
	We're doing your country proud, whichever country that is.
	Yes, and then follows up with Medeiro and Lukashenko are good examples of the principle that once you start rigging elections, it's not like you're going to stop.
	Screwtape Laser says, Dan is unfortunately correct.
	I unfortunately am always correct.
	This is true.
	America has crossed the election Rubicon.
	It is naive to think that all the Trump favourable polls count for anything.
	The left will not let go of the power they have gathered.
	I suspect that is, yes, like you say, unfortunately correct.
	Alex Bradbury says, look at the 2022 Brazilian elections.
	It was incredibly free, fair and fortified.
	I will not hear anything suggesting otherwise.
	Actually Alex, we are no longer on the YouTube bit.
	We are on the conversation just with you guys.
	And in this bit I'm allowed to say that the Brazilian election was obviously...
	It was rigged.
	It was rigged, I tell you.
	It was massively rigged and stuffed up and the Supreme Court was over it and they were stopping people getting to the polls and ballot machines and all the rest of it.
	But now we're not on YouTube, I can say that.
	I hope there was nothing in my tone to suggest otherwise.
	Ru The Day says, I seem to recall Telegram being shut down in Brazil until they start playing ball.
	So they started playing ball because they like money more than freedom.
	Oh, I didn't know that they cut on that.
	And Kevin Fox says, Darth Morales and his Sao Paulo Stormtroopers.
	Yes, that seemed to fit.
	that you follow up.
	Alright, so I'll just take one comment from here.
	Ewan Baker says, I met Richard several times.
	He was great and really knowledgeable.
	Was really pissed when they threw him and Gerard under the bus.
	Yeah, for people who don't know, I never spoke about this because who really cares.
	But the situation was that they ran the European elections.
	Gerard was blamed for everything.
	And it was like, well, Nigel Farage came out, started the Brexit party being Mr Brexit and ran in the Brexit election.
	Like yes, he was going to win the European elections.
	It wasn't really a surprise ending to that, but the play was, okay, but now we set ourselves up for the next election, which would be the one we're about to go into, in which UKIP would be around, it would have a strong base of supporters because of the people you brought in from Tommy, not necessarily Tommy himself, and therefore you wait by your time, and then now there would be an authentic right-wing party in place to take the place that Reform's trying to occupy.
	Falsely.
	And for this pitch, it was decided by the people in charge that he was the devil and must go.
	So he was banned for bringing the party into disrepute, which is something you use when someone says the n-word.
	He hadn't done, so it was obvious bollocks.
	The only reason they did that is so he couldn't run to be leader in the next leadership election.
	So then we ran Richard Brain, and Richard Brain was ran as basically, Gerard says, um, I'm good.
	I like Gerard.
	If Gerard has an idea, I'll just do it.
	Which seems just stupid.
	And so Richard ran, he won by a landslide, and then in response the NEC went, nuh-uh.
	We're in charge and just refused to do anything Gerard wanted.
	Sorry, anything Richard wanted.
	Even as small as there was a leaflet sent out to every member because they changed the constitution and you have to ask every member.
	And this cost like five grand or something.
	It was actually a couple of questions, and Richard mentioned in one of his meetings, well if we're sending this thing out, I'd also like to get some polling done of our membership.
	Can we add a couple of questions just asking them their opinions on a couple of things?
	Even as small as a suggestion that that was shot down by the people in charge, and he maintains to this day that was just because he said it.
	It was that simple.
	Because you're Gerard's boy, we hate you and won't do anything you want.
	And that strategy you outlined a moment ago about carving out a genuine position on the right, that would be paying such huge dividends right now if they'd done that.
	That was the long-term vision, and that vision was considered not the option.
	And yet now, we don't even spare the time to make fun of UKIP because they're just so irrelevant at this point.
	Yeah, because they're... I mean, well, Richard Brain won the leadership election because he had the membership on his side, and then they cucked him, meaning that when people found this out, the membership left.
	Oh, that's when I left UKIP, yeah.
	It wasn't a shock.
	It was like, well, this is stupid.
	Like, long-term, this didn't make any sense.
	You've killed yourselves.
	Like, it was already...
	The game we were playing was a risky one and may have also ended up at irrelevancy, but it was a game.
	You had no game and now it's gone.
	Yeah, but at least you had the full backing of the membership.
	Yeah.
	Whereas now you've got the full backing of, what, six people on the National Committee?
	It's, uh... That's how that played out.
	So there we are.
	There's all the behind-the-scenes drama that someone else would probably put into an hour-long video and cry about.
	We're out of time!
	Bye!

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