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Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lothar Seaters episode 872 for today, Friday, the I'm your host, Connor, joined by Carl, and our intrepid field reporter, Jess Gill.
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And today we'll be discussing Scotland, the most hateful country in the world, how women work and why she left you, and how immigration doesn't work for Britain.
Now, I have been informed reliably that the best thing immigration brings over is the food.
And so in today's Lads Hour, Callum, who has been around the world looking at some of the strangest foods around the world, will be subjecting everyone to his very own bush tucker trial at three o'clock.
So you can get to see the lads try inappropriately named foods.
It's going to be delightfully puerile.
Also, for those who have been paying attention, we do still have a job opportunity open.
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If they fit your expertise and you'd like to come work with us, throw your application in and you will hear from us shortly.
But without further ado, let's get into today's topics.
Have you guys met the Hate Monster?
I have not.
Okay, so we are apparently Hate Monsters Inc over here, judging by their definition of who the Hate Monster inhabits.
I'm a proud Hate Monster.
Hello, fellow Hate Monsters.
We're going to walk through how the Scottish Government are defining us as this, I don't know, diversity realist cartoon, and then go over and look at the UK Government's idea of what an extremist consists of.
Ah, okay.
Spoiler alert, it's going to be weaponised against the native population.
But I'm going to play this absurd cartoon just to you now.
You might know this thing here.
It's the hate monster.
When you're feeling insecure.
When you feel angry.
He'll be there.
Feeding off the emotions.
Getting bigger.
And bigger.
Till he's weighing you down.
He'll make you want to have a go at somebody.
A neighbour.
Somebody on the street.
On a night out.
Security guy on the door.
Somebody in the chippie.
Your taxi driver.
You'll make you want to vent your anger, just cause folk look or act different for you.
The hate monster wants you to feel what you need to show.
You're better than them.
Then, before you know it, you've committed a hate crime.
Doesn't make you feel better though, does it?
Maybe for a minute, but then you just feel worse, don't you?
Cause the hate just hangs about like a bad smell.
But it doesn't need to be like this.
You're better than that.
You know it.
You've got all this energy so do something positive with it.
The Hate Monster doesnae like that.
In fact he hates it.
Go on.
Be good to yourself.
Don't feed the Hate Monster.
What's that slop coming out of his mouth?
I don't want to know because I don't want to be homophobic.
I just love that you've committed a hate crime.
I do like how it was in phonetic Scottish.
All of the subtitles for our audio lists were all in the kind of Scottish that it sounds directly as.
It wasn't in proper English.
I would advise the Scottish government, if you didn't want to make me commit a hate crime, maybe don't make the hate monster so adorable that I want to actively feed it slurs.
I just really love the way that this is aimed at Scottish men.
Have you met the hate monster?
for a three-year-old.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is the patronizing parental state, hence why Rishi Sunak acts like a CBB's presenter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's funny you say this is aimed at Scottish men.
So they've got a page on this on Police Scotland, and they say, have you met the hate monster?
The hate monster represents that feeling some people get when they're frustrated and angry and take it out on others because they feel like they need to show they are better than them.
In other words, they commit to hate.
So childish, I can't take this.
Now, what's really frustrating about this is that there is actually a point here about the politics of Nietzschean resentment, right?
Resentment is a slave morality.
If you're whining about how someone always has the whip hand over you, then you're talking from a position of mercy and of weakness.
But that's not what they mean, because the entire grievance industrial complex is predicated on the fact that you have been robbed of your rightful inheritance by the cis white male patriarchy or whatever it is, right?
So it's unidirectional resentment.
But also, you're right, it's really patronising, it's directed at grown men, because it says, why do some people let the hate monster in?
We know young men aged 18 to 30 are most likely to commit hate crimes.
Men.
Just... men?
We're not going to talk about per capita demographics there?
Well, remember that only white people are capable of committing a hate crime.
According to the intersectional framework, yes.
So, it is literally just white men, and it literally can be only them.
Yeah, particularly those from socially excluded communities who are heavily influenced by their peers.
So working class disenfranchised white young men in Scotland may be feeling like perhaps Humza Yousaf spends more time talking about Gaza than he does about native Scottish issues.
And this is how they're going to get them back in line.
Yeah.
You don't want to feed the hate.
I can't do a Scottish accent.
You don't want to feed the hate monster, do you Paddy?
Or no, what's the Scottish name?
Jock?
Yeah.
Right.
And it's like, I'm Jock.
So I'm like, no, no, I don't.
Nay, nay, I can't.
I just find it very interesting that there is the admission in there that we have socially excluded these people and now they're a problem.
Oh yeah, we know you've been pretty disenfranchised but these real harpy women around Humza Yousaf don't want to hear from you so shut up.
But the problem though is not that they Should take this as a moment of self-reflection.
They say, they may have deep-rooted feelings of being socially and economically disadvantaged, because they are, combined with ideas about white male entitlement.
Shouldn't I be entitled to get a job?
No.
Turns out that a black woman should always be in front of you, in position with you, and if you complain about that, you're committing a hate crime.
You're just feeding the hate monster.
Good point, Mr. Youssef.
Speaking of Mr. Youssef, there's a reason they've rolled this out, and it's because it coincides with the hate crime legislation that he passed three years ago finally coming to effect.
It just occurred to me I'm going to be able to troll Dankula with this for years.
Do you want to know when it comes into effect?
Well, it's got to be this year, right?
Literally April Fool's Day.
April 1st.
Of course it does.
Of course it does.
Couldn't have picked it to be more memetic if they tried.
I mean, they're literally a circus of clowns.
Of course they're going to implement this kind of legislation on April 1st.
So this is the Hate Crime and Public Order Scotland Act, passed in 2021, and it says in this Times article, the police will keep a record of hate incidents against people even when they do not meet the criminal threshold.
Oh, you've got non-crime hate incidents in Scotland, finally.
Yes, even though they've been advised not to by the UK government.
Current police guidelines.
Right.
I mean that even if officers do not believe a crime has been committed, when the victim perceives it to be a hate crime, the circumstances will be recorded as a hate incident, non-crime hate incident.
It's understood these are recorded on the vulnerable person's database.
So this will be unilaterally weaponized against young disenfranchised white men, disenfranchised by the ideology of the establishment, which actively discriminates against them.
It's going to be recorded on the victim's database, not the perpetrator's database.
That's what it says there.
So the person who is the victim will have all of the, he will just, she, they, God only knows, will be able to just unilaterally declare to the police, no, no, no, that was a non-crime hate incident.
And so they'll get this big list on their account.
So when the police are looking through the database, they'll say, oh, wow, look how victimized this particular person is.
And they're going to get lots of recognition and privileges.
It's literally a hate crime pokedex.
It's literally like, yeah, yeah, but it's a kind of, it's a massive incentive for personal victimhood.
Yeah, quite.
And so Callum Steele, who is the former... Also, you don't even get credit for the non-crime hate incidents you commit.
Callum Steele, who's the former... Where's my Asper?
God damn it!
He's the former General Secretary of the Scottish Police Federation.
He said, I suspect within a very short period of time we will have data suggesting Scotland to be one of the most hateful countries on earth.
I mean, the English have known that for quite some time.
I don't know, man.
I've been to Scotland a few times, and I've actually always had a really good time when I'm there, and everyone's always been really nice to me.
I got yelled at by a drunk Blaswegian because he heard my English accent.
Other than that, it was a pleasant trip.
Right, yeah, that's not happened to me yet.
It just reminds me of when Orwell said that Celtic nationalism is an identity polemic.
No, it's a purely negative identity about hating you.
So that's definitely got aspects of truth to it.
Yes, but just purely by data collection, Scotland is going to have a worse intolerance record than Gaza itself.
I love that though.
Scottish Daily Express.
Scotland will become the most hateful place on earth.
Everyone needs goals, that's all I'm saying, right?
So let's check in on those hateful white men, right?
This was fairly recently, I think it was a few days ago now, terror statistics came out, more than 200 arrests, 200 arrests for terror-related offences made in the past year, including 42 children.
children.
So these were 219 arrests in the 12 months up until December 2023.
61 which resulted in the charge.
65% were locked up for Islamic extremism.
Of course it was.
26% 26% held extreme right-wing ideologies.
So we are on the cusp of a fourth reich, I suppose?
Judging purely by the numbers?
Well, judging purely by the numbers, we're on the cusp of caliphate.
Again, hate fact.
There we go.
Some 46% of those arrests under the Terrorism Act were white, while 34% were Asian, according to official stats.
What, in Scotland?
No, this is in the UK.
In the UK, right.
I was going to say, in Scotland, Scotland's had far less immigration than England.
But even then, that's still massively disproportionate, considering they make up 6.5% of the population.
Well, if you look at NYFI's terror watch list, 90% of those are Islamic terrorists.
Now, some of those are overseas, but I think it's 43% total were on there two years ago, and then the 90% is about 38,000.
90% is about 38,000, sorry, 43,000, so 90% is 38,000, which is roughly equivalent to 1% of the entire British Muslim population. - But yeah, straight line men are the issue, right?
Yeah, quite, quite, exactly.
So speaking of straight white men, and who might be an extremist, it turns out we're all extremists now.
Now I covered this, this was on Wednesday.
Michael Gove was formulating a new definition of extremism in conjunction with a group called Tell Mama.
Tell Mama being One of the Muslim groups of the Grievous Industrial Complex, which accused Boris Johnson's column calling women wearing niqabs letterboxes and bank robbers, they said that that increased Muslim hate crimes by 375%.
Their source?
Trust me, bro, we just took phone calls, right?
So the definition is out.
We ready for this really robust definition?
Strengthening its definition against extremism.
Let's go down.
So, since the 7th of October, Hamas terror attacks in Israel, concerns have been raised about the wide-ranging risk of radicalization.
On hate crime, since October the 7th, the Community Security Trust recorded 4,103 anti-Semitic incidents in the UK, an increase of 147% compared to 2022.
And Tell Mama, again, they're just getting government funding, recorded a 335% increase in anti-Muslim hate crimes in the last four months.
Some of those have been followed up on.
No evidence has been supplied, but there you go.
So Michael Gove has decided the UK is a success story, a multinational, multi-ethnic, multi-faith democracy.
Sorry, the United Kingdom is a success story.
By what metric?
I mean, walking around, everyone's like, wow, this country sucks.
Yes.
And it's a success story because of the hundreds more rates of Islamophobia and anti-Semitism according to their own logistics, right?
So even the rest of the logistics is falling down.
We've got to take over Scotland!
So, he literally says, it is stronger because of its diversity.
He got up and said that- Conservative minister.
Yeah, he said that at the dispatch box and Angela Rayner got up and said, I agree with the Honourable Minister that we are stronger because of our diversity.
So there isn't even like a cigarette paper between the two.
You'd think the left would be like, the difference between the left and the right would be the right is like, diversity is our strength, Britain is great because of diversity and the left are like, oh, Britain isn't diverse enough.
Yeah, well Michael Gove said it's the predator handshake.
Yes, diversity is our strength.
You were in that column, right?
Do you remember when Michael Gove got up and when he was asked what the achievements of the Conservative government were, he said the superficial and intellectual diversity of our institutions.
So it's like, Michael Gove, more Browns, vote Conservative.
I love my Conservative party.
I feel so represented.
But our democracy and our values of inclusivity and tolerance, because that's all that Britain's about.
Ah, yeah, there we go.
It's accommodating foreigners.
That's the only reason Britain exists, right?
Are under challenge from extremists.
In order to protect our democratic values, it is important to reinforce what we have in common and to be clear and precise in identifying the dangers posed by extremism.
I just, I love that the extremists now are like, hey guys, I'm not sure that Islam and LGBT are that compatible, you know?
Prison.
Literally, oh, oh, oh.
The pervasiveness of extremist ideologies has become increasingly clear in the aftermath of the October 7th attacks.
Curious that that happened in Israel and it's suddenly affecting the UK.
I wonder if we've imported a constituency that cares more about Gaza than it does about England.
I wonder if that constituency's in charge of Scotland.
And it poses a real risk to the security of our citizens and our democracy.
This is the work of the extreme right wing.
What are you talking about?
Didn't you know Nick Griffin is currently in charge of the government?
What?
Extreme right wing where?
That's disgusting!
And Islamist extremists, I get second billing, who are seeking to separate Muslims from the rest of society and create division within Muslim communities.
I think the hundreds of thousands of Muslims currently marching in support of Hamas would probably characterize the Muslim community.
Just what is going on?
So he set out the definition, right?
So we've got a concrete definition, this has taken over the 2011 prevent definition, this is what people will start to be distanced from the government with and possibly surveilled and criminalised.
What does it take to become an extremist?
Extremism is the promotion or advancement of an ideology based on violence, hatred, or intolerance that aims to negate or destroy the fundamental rights and freedoms of others, or undermine, overturn, or replace the UK system of liberal parliamentary democracy and democratic rights, or intentionally create a permissive environment for others to achieve the results.
Right.
So when Jeremy Corbyn instantiates broadband as a human right, and I'm like, actually, I don't think I need to pay for your porn fetish, your unlimited pipeline of cumerism, then I'm an extremist.
By your nature of making a Starship Troopers video where you said service guarantee citizenship might be a preferential model, you're now an extremist.
Okay.
Well, I mean, you know, I didn't make the rules.
Yep.
As Miriam Cates has pointed out, anyone that says, well, should trans women be using Other women's bathrooms?
Is that an extreme position?
Well, under this, you're trying to take away their fundamental rights, so... There you go, J.K.
Rowling, you're all gonna be in cuffs, aren't you?
I mean, I just would like a list of the fundamental rights, actually.
I'd just like a concrete list.
Okay, I don't wanna become an extremist.
So, if Michael Gove could just give me the list of the fundamental rights, then I can make sure that I'm not an extremist by trying to take those away.
None is ever provided.
No.
And, unless you sign yourself up to...
Completely culturally liquidated pluralism.
As he says, multi-faith, multi-cultural.
Well, freedom of others does include freedom of movement.
Yeah, exactly.
You know?
Therefore, infinity immigrants.
Wanna keep homeless people out of your house?
That's right, bro.
The definition is clear that extremism involves advancing or promoting an ideology based on violence, hatred, or intolerance, a high bar that only captures the most concerning of activities.
It is about silent... Why do I have to... Sorry, just, okay, like, violence and hatred, okay, maybe I could agree to that, but intolerance?
It's like, no, no, no, no, I'm intolerant of lots of things.
And rightly so.
So are they.
Yeah, exactly.
They're intolerant of the far right.
And they're going to use violence to make sure the far right don't get anywhere in this country.
But the point is, to say that intolerance itself, as in you simply have to tolerate anything that happens, it's just mad.
Also, we are opposed to anyone overthrowing democracy.
Says Rishi Sunak.
Again, I would like to remind you he was not elected.
Literally cooed his way into government, but there you go.
They actually stipulate here, it's not about silencing those with private and peaceful beliefs.
We know, we know!
It's about silencing the people you don't like!
Nor will it affect free speech, which may always be protected.
Unless you're intolerant of Islam.
Or you say that not everyone should be voting.
Unless you're promoting an ideology that the government doesn't like.
Also, the government would fall afoul of this itself.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because the Conservatives have hardly not been extreme.
Also, I would like to say that this doesn't fall afoul of free speech.
Gove is literally criminalising one wing of his own party.
Oh, well Gove's lead advisor actually said about Kate, she's more National Socialist than National Conservative.
So they do hate the backbenchers, with a burning passion.
Amazing.
I spoke to an MP the other day.
With friends like this who needs enemies, man.
Quite.
And he said that Rishi Sunak is an idiot who doesn't get politics and that he doesn't trust Kimi Badmok as far as he can throw her because she's a creature of Gove.
Yeah.
So Gove runs the entire Conservative Party.
Yeah, he does, yeah.
And so he's done this.
Well, this is what Nadine Dorris talks about in her book.
Gove's got this weird, like, slimy network of spiteful mutants in the Conservative Party, and now he's criminalising the normals.
He's actually engaging in a communist revolution in the Conservative Party.
And also, again, we don't have free speech in this country because Isabel Warnspruce has been arrested multiple times for praying silently in her head on a street corner because she objects to abortion.
So again, if you object to abortion, which is a fundamental right and freedom now in this country...
Gove is literally outlawing free speech.
Yeah.
Now, if you don't believe me that this is going to be used to be weaponised against his enemies...
So Gove gave an address in Parliament and he promised a new fund for a grassroots anti-extremism organisation, aka, you know the hundreds of imams that the Home Office's RICU unit will bus out to a terror attack and use to manage public perception.
So that'll be that, purely AstroTuft.
He said when referring to the groups, the British National Socialist Movement and Patriotic Alternative.
So there's Sam Malia's shout out, I suppose.
And then, as I said, Angela Rayner got up and agreed with everything he said.
Okay, not a fan of PA, not a fan of... I don't support any of these groups.
No, me neither.
They mentioned you.
Oh, did they?
Yeah.
One of the questions mentioned you.
How did it mention me?
Paul Marshall.
Oh, because he was retweeting me?
Yes.
We'll play this.
Very sensible, centrist hates on Twitter.
Yeah, good point.
Andy Slaughter.
Thank you very much, Madam Deputy Speaker.
This tweet was liked by Sir Paul Marshall.
Civil war is coming.
There has never been a country that has remained peaceful with a sizeable Islamic presence.
Once the Muslims get to 15 to 20 percent of the population, the current cold civil war will turn hot.
Many other incendiary tweets were liked or retweeted by Marshall, a substantial donor to both the Tory party and the Secretary of State personally.
Well, I deprecate the personal attack on Sir Paul Marshall, who is a distinguished philanthropist and the supporter of ARC Academies, which are state schools that have done so much, including in the Honourable Gentleman's constituency, to improve the lives of disadvantaged children from a variety of minority backgrounds.
So just to be clear, the tweet he read out there wasn't my tweet.
No, but anyone included in the Hope Not Hate report on Paul Marshall will be criminalized under the next Labour government as an extremist.
Yeah, that means you.
Yes, the tweet of mine that Paul Marshall retweeted was me just saying, it was a meme of someone else's tweet basically that I posted, where it's just like the other side is so committed to degeneracy and Satanism that I think I might just become a Christian just because I don't think these guys are right.
Contemporary politics on a scale way John.
Yes it is yeah and but obviously it's a joke you know but Paul Marshall apparently retweeted that.
I can't believe hope not hate is seen as a source of authority they're an absolute joke if you actually read their their pamphlet their thing it's like who are these people and then the people you do know are like big names like Calvin Robinson it's like I wouldn't call him a far-right extremist at least not in the bad way.
I'm gutted I wasn't named.
Clearly I didn't do enough this year.
But it should be pointed out that the Conservative government and the Home Office under them have been actively bankrolling Hope Not Hate as an attack dog for the intelligence agencies.
And so, even though they are now a joke to us, with the next Labour government, they've still got funding, they've still got a substantial body of publications, and so that will be the pretext to crack down on far-right extremists, hello, on the internet.
I don't think of us as extreme at all.
No.
But Gove does.
Yeah.
So does the Labour government.
That's not going to be fun.
Now, should we talk about the other extremists that should be cracking down on?
The other hate monsters.
Because Gove decided with this new definition to drop a list of groups the government shouldn't be liaising with, shouldn't be seeking advice from.
And they're expecting to face judicial reviews, according to the Telegraph, because there'll be no right of appeal in the final decision by the Secretary of State whether or not to say these groups shouldn't be liaising with government.
Now it also isn't like they're prescribed groups and there's no legal enforcement mechanism for the government not to engage with them.
It's just literally a letter that says don't interact with these people.
Quite, yeah.
And on this list is the Muslim Council of Britain and Cage International and they told The Telegraph they were considering legal challenges if they were named because the Muslim Council of Britain Under the previous Labour government and the continued Tory government has been told that they cannot interact with the government department even though they had.
So the Council of Britain said it would be offensive, ludicrous and dangerous to suggest it fell under arbitrary definitions of extremism.
We're a democratic organisation representing a cross-section of British Muslims.
We should be monitoring developments and seek to reserve opposition legally.
And Cage International said it was extremely opposed to an establishment that is aiding live-stream genocide abroad and imposing draconian laws at home blah blah blah blah blah.
We care about more Gaza more than we do the UK.
The other one that was named So Zohra Mohammed is quoted in here as the head of Muslim Council of Britain.
She said that the definition leads to the unfair targeting of Muslim communities.
Strange self-report.
But another one is MEND.
So that's the Muslim Engagement and Development Organization.
This is headed up by Azhar Qa'im.
I don't know how to pronounce this name.
He said, de-legitimizing lawful dissent in this way is itself undermining liberal democratic principles and that he had placed the government on legal notice.
So, this is managed democracy, my friend.
Well, why would Mettend, Cage, and the Muslim Council of Britain be under any scrutiny if the far right is the real problem?
Well... Muslim Council of Britain, uh... Did they post stickers?
It's a bit worse.
Oh, okay.
Just a little bit worse.
You know some of those stickers that weren't included in Sam Malia's trial, which were a bit more dodgy than just, like, reject white guilt?
Uh, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
So the Muslim Council of Britain were related to the, what was this, the IFN.
So this is the Interfaith Network, and so the Interfaith Network had government funding pulled because they were affiliated with the Muslim Council of Britain.
Last year, the Telegraph revealed that the IFN had angered the Department for Leveling Up Housing Communities by not condemning the Hamas October 7th attacks, and Gove said he wanted to stop funding the charity because it counts a member of the Muslim Council of Britain among its trustees.
Muslim Council of Britain was subjected to a Whitehall-wide engagement ban in 2009, when an official at the council signed the Istanbul Declaration, which was interpreted as calling for attacks on Royal Navy vessels enforcing a UN weapons blockade of then-Hamas-run Gaza.
So, actively endorsing the killing of British troops.
And we wonder why we're not meant to associate with them.
Now, they've said, it never endorsed the declaration and specifically rejects any notion that we endorse an attack on the Royal Navy.
Even though they did endorse it at the time.
So it might be worth raising a bit of scrutiny as to whether or not the government should engage with said extremists.
Also then turns out... Imagine the government's funding.
I know, that's Gove pulling the funding.
Yeah, so they won't even think about it.
Well, yeah, of course it won't.
Of course they won't.
Well, not just that.
So the Ministry of Defence were consulting the Muslim Council of Britain... See, just a quick thing.
This is why it pays to be cynical about the Conservative government.
They will literally fund their enemies.
Well, yeah, the Muslim Council of Britain were approving the imams that were going into the armed forces.
Until last year.
So that's not a problem for radicalisation whatsoever.
So what about Mendencage, right?
They've got to be perfectly up on the up-and-up.
Well, are you familiar with Baroness Worsey?
Yeah.
So former head of the Conservative Party.
Should be noted that her chief of staff, after she left, went on to become the head of RICU, the head of terror attack perception management.
Can't draw any link there.
And Baroness Worsey had a lot of liaisons with MEND.
So MEND wrote a Muslim manifesto, and this is in the article.
In return for Muslim votes, MEND's Muslim manifesto seeks from parliamentary candidates proactive engagement with organizations like MEND.
An expansion of Sharia-compliant finance, more Muslim faith state schools, a review of all counter-extremism legislation, scrapping prevent, the introduction of what comes close to a blasphemy law, and primary legislation defining hate speech online.
That's right, I'm a conservative, right?
So MEND invited Warsi to seven events since 2015, this is between 2015 and 2018.
Warsi described MEND as, although not illegal, certainly illiberal.
So in her own definition, the groups that she's consulting with fall afoul of the extremism definition that Michael Gove is putting forward, but all right.
The Baroness said that MEND has the potential for real change, despite being very illiberal, and called for broader and deeper engagement with British Muslim communities.
Now, Why is MEND controversial?
MEND's former head of Community and Development Engagement, Azad Ali, was found guilty in 2010 of using his personal website to justify the killing of British troops in Iraq.
Not great.
They then went and launched their Islamophobia Awareness Month in the House of Commons, and the Met Police told the head of MEND that if Ali attended, it wouldn't go ahead.
So, Ali then left MEND and joined CAGE.
Right.
And then he went on to describe Jihadi John as a beautiful young man.
What, the guy who cut someone's head off on a video?
Yes.
Yes.
Quite.
Ugh, okay.
Yeah, so you're seeing a sort of- I can't say anything about this because I don't want to feed the hate monster.
No, no, quite.
Yeah, we wouldn't want to- How?
We wouldn't want to feed the extremist pipeline there.
MEND members then complained that Baroness Worsey was the reason that Ali was kicked out, so they're actually accusing her of being too moderate and moderated.
She's a wet!
Yeah, genuinely.
Although, she doesn't even think Jihadi John is a beautiful guy.
No, she doesn't, and I will say that she certainly doesn't, and that any connection to Islamic extremists is purely incidental because in, I think it was 2018, she secured a £20,000 libel payment from Colonel Richard Kemp for an article in Jewish News where he said that she was trying to provide cover for Islamists.
So, Baroness Warsi does not agree with Islamists at all.
Which is a fair statement.
She is clear on this.
Any infiltration of Whitehall is purely accidental.
However...
Since Lee Anderson got kicked out of the Conservative Party, she has been touring around saying that my party is riddled with Islamophobia.
Lee Anderson is a great example of it.
Unfortunately, even David Cameron said Warsi was used by these groups to infiltrate Whitehall, including one group that Cameron described as a political front for the Muslim Brotherhood, and who petitioned foreign preachers, including a bloke called Nakir Nalik, who stated every Muslim should be a terrorist to be able to enter and visit Britain.
So she herself is probably well-meaning, it's just she's obviously maybe naive when it comes to these people?
Yes, and so the heads of the Conservative Party who are setting the agenda on what constitutes an extremist genuinely don't know an extremist when it looks them in the face.
Okay, that's great.
But we're the hate monsters.
And I just thought I'd finish on one quote from this, because this is very revealing, right?
Because as I mentioned in the last segment on this, the Labour government want to adopt the all-parliamentary definition of Islamophobia, which criminalizes accusing Muslims of entryism in politics.
So you will be locked up for saying that.
The head of Tel Mama, in this article from 2015, this is Fayez Mughal, and he told The Telegraph he had resigned in protest at its activities from this group.
Baroness Worsey resigned over the prior Gaza War as well, which is quite interesting.
And he said, I was deeply concerned about the kinds of groups some of the members had connections with and some of the groups they were recommending to be brought into government.
It seemed to me to be a form of entryism by people with no track record and delivering projects.
What an Islamophobe.
Yes, quite.
So, the organisations that are creating this definition of extremism, and the all-party parliamentary definition of Islamophobia, which would be weaponised against people that they designate extremists, are themselves violating their own laws.
And so, the point is, the vagueness is the point, because the blade will only cut one way.
Against us.
Hate Monsters Inc.
Well, that's really annoying and I'm not really looking forward to the Labour government, but let's have a complete change of pace for what I'm going to discuss now.
So I found this video on Twitter and I actually found this to be fascinating.
So I thought we'd watch it.
It's three minutes long, but it is actually really compelling because this young lady is trying to explain to young men why their relationships aren't working out.
And a lot of people responded to this in a very, um, young man way, uh, trying to logic their way out of it.
And I just have to say as someone who's not a young man, but was, uh, you are wrong about this.
And I think this is actually going to be instructive.
If it'll play.
God, what have I done?
Much more refresher.
Yeah.
John, thank you.
If you're looking for a parent reason and you're looking for answers, this is what happened.
Okay, this is you guys.
You guys are in a happy relationship, and now all of a sudden you have one simple, fixable problem.
For this example, we're gonna use no good morning texts.
And your girlfriend who loves you, she's really happy with you, she comes to you and she tells you, she's like, hey, do you think we could start doing good morning texts?
Like, it'd mean a lot to me if you text me good morning.
So you, her loving boyfriend, agree to give her good morning texts.
But something happened and for whatever reason you stopped giving her good morning texts, so now we have a bigger problem.
She now thinks that you don't care enough about her to send her good morning texts, even though she asked.
But she's gonna be like, you know what, this is still kind of a small problem, I'm just gonna remind him.
She reminds you, you're like, oh my gosh, that's right, I did agree to that, okay, I will text you good morning.
Unfortunately though, you didn't follow through again.
Now we have confirmed that you do not care enough to text her good morning, even though this is a simple, fixable problem.
This is now a big problem.
So now, your girlfriend, who has never picked fights before in her life, starts picking a bunch of little fights about all these different things because she believes that you do not care enough.
Through all of these picking fights with you, though, she still loves you and likes you enough to want to be with you, even though you guys have all these little problems now.
Until one day these become unattractive to her.
She's gonna realize that all of these little things that you do that remind her that you don't care about her enough are unattractive.
And so now the problem is not these things.
It's not even that you don't care enough.
It's not even that she never got good morning texts.
It's that she literally does not like you anymore.
Does not like you.
Now, unfortunately, she has to break up with you.
And then you're going to ask her why.
And she's going to list out all the reasons why she has to break up with you.
And you are going to say, no, you should not break up with me because of those reasons, because from now on, I am going to do all of these things.
And you will never have to worry about me never doing these things again, because I'm going to do them every single day.
But remember, it doesn't even matter if you were to do all of these things anymore, because the problem now is that she's unattracted to you and just simply does not like you anymore.
And now she's gonna go move on with her life, and you're gonna go and tell your friends that you got dumped by absolutely no reason, and that you guys all hate her, and that she's crazy for dumping you over something so simple.
But in reality, she never dumped you at all.
This was a slow-moving process that eventually led to the final reason, and you weren't dumped.
You probably actively chose not to give her what she said she needed, and now you guys... you guys aren't together anymore.
Sorry.
So, what do you make of that, Jess?
Oh my gosh, this literally reminds me of my last relationship.
I don't want to say too much.
You don't have to name names.
Yeah, but basically, there was like this one thing, which was like the tipping point, and I was just like, because the previous things I could excuse, and then it got to a point where I was like, hmm, you don't really care about me.
And I think there's a part to play on both sides in just general relationships.
So I speak to my female friends about this and my male friends, and there is a similar thing where it's just like a load of small things together.
And I think as women, we're generally a bit schizo sometimes as well.
So I think sometimes the smallest things, when we're in the wrong mood, it can be like, oh, have you seen that movie where it's like this famous scene Where she's like, oh, I don't want you to do the dishes when I ask you, I want you to want to do the dishes.
I feel like that's a classic example of this.
I think so too.
What do you think, Connor?
Okay, I have a lot of thoughts.
Yes, this is true about how women do think.
The point where I jumped the shark and became reprehensible.
Reprehensible?
It is, yeah, because she said It's the leap in logic from you didn't do these things to you clearly didn't want to do these things in the first place, right?
The drawing of continuity between the events is immediately a supposition of malintent.
And that's why you can't have a relationship when you're presuming the worst of the other person.
There's no humility in that.
She's not immediately beginning by presuming the worst.
She, for whatever reason, let's just take this example, wants the morning text.
And this isn't important to you.
That's not something that you think about.
And what she wants is to know that she's present in your thoughts.
That's the thing that is most front and center in her mind.
Because she wants to know that you do actually care about her.
And so when you fail to Do that.
And the reminded, and you fail to do that, then, then she's looking that the other problems are just her looking for ways to make sure that she can feel present in the front of your thoughts.
And the woman doing this is right.
By the time it's got to this point, you're basically on this inevitable, uh, slide downwards where she'll convince herself that you aren't, she isn't present in your thoughts.
And the thing is, she might not be wrong, right?
You might not be, sure.
That's the thing.
But then there's also, so the other angle I do want to put here is that your emotions are meant to be signposts to something that might be true.
It's like your intuition alarm bells are going off, right?
Sure.
And so you don't attribute your emotion to being caused by the other person.
You need to, okay, let's put it this way.
Anger.
Anger is like your soul's immune system, right?
It's meant to be detecting whether or not someone's done something unjust to you.
But you might be angry for reasons unrelated to what a person has actually done.
You might have misperceived a circumstance.
So you need to test your emotion against evidence in all humility to then say, am I right about this?
And also approach the other person you're in a relationship with and have an inquisitive dialogue rather than an accusatory dialogue.
And I don't get any of that from this.
I think you're asking women to be too reasonable.
No, because I've met plenty of women.
No, I completely understand.
I think another part of this, though, is that due to gender equality and all that, There seems to be this idea that women and men should do an equal amount of housework and remember stuff like this, like remember my birthday, remember my parents' birthday, things that men traditionally aren't good at.
If you look at old movies, it's normally the wife who dedicates the time remembering everyone's birthday, the more social aspects.
And because, as a woman, like, I'm working, you know, I'm working, I'm doing all the housework in addition to that.
And the man, because he still has that, you know, male brain, he's thinking, I just need to be a provider.
And realistically, a lot of men can't even be providers nowadays as well.
So it's like, what's the point?
You know, you've got a literal man-child.
But the point for this, which I think a lot of men forget, is that their girlfriends want to be the centre of their world.
Yes.
And that's actually really hard for men to do because a lot of men are trying to do other things in the world as well.
And so I'm not saying that, you know, because the thing is, this is just a descriptive thing, right?
It's not normative.
It's not saying this is the way it should be.
It's just, this is the way it is.
And this is why you are losing your girlfriends.
So you'll go out with this girl for a year, two years, and it'll just kind of fall apart and you'll not know why.
And I think this is a fantastic description of why that is.
A little bit.
Then it becomes pathological as well, because she turns around and says, oh, you're going to say I got dumped for no reason.
Everything about this is pathological.
It's totally like... Let's put it this way, okay?
It's not just descriptive.
It also abdicates responsibility from the woman in her role in a relationship.
But this is the point, right?
To have responsibility over it would imply that she has a sense of sort of conscious control over it, right?
But she doesn't.
This is not something women have conscious control over.
This is women being women.
A man, I tell you what, it's taken me decades to realize this, right?
Sure.
And there are things about being a man that you don't have conscious control over either.
I'm not having a go at you particularly.
I know.
I don't know why you're feeling attacked.
I'm not feeling attacked.
I don't like being told how I feel.
Right.
So I just think it's really valuable for young men to really understand this.
And I wish I had known this when I was young.
Cause I've been through so many relationships where I get to that point where I'm like, well, okay, well I'll just stop doing these little things that are bothering me.
But at that point, it's just not about that, you know?
And it was about the fact that I wouldn't call her or something.
And I wasn't Spending the amount of time I needed to spend.
Um, and so basically when you get to the reminder stage guys, that's when you need to start thinking about it.
Um, because all this really is, she just wants to have it.
The thing is, well, the, the question of the text isn't, is kind of the problem because what she really wants is for you to just turn up one day with a bunch of flowers or something.
Right.
So now that you were away from her and you were thinking about her in your absence, And so actually the text isn't really very important.
The fact that she's even asking for the text is the first step on the road downwards.
It's the proxy for autonomous consideration.
The best example I can use of this is the Patrice O'Neill joke of how he gets frustrated when he brings a girlfriend home for the first time and he goes, what side of the bed do you want to sleep on?
And she goes, well, which side do you want to sleep on?
And he goes, that side.
And she went, but I can't see the TV.
And he said, right, what you wanted me to do is know ahead of time what your preferences are.
Yes.
Autonomously choose to accommodate your preferences and then not have you need to make the decision because otherwise you'd be afraid of rejection.
But shouldn't that be what a man should be like anyway?
I don't disagree, yeah.
I think women do like to have... Decisions made for them.
Yeah, I think that is true in all honesty.
And I think there is something nice about being in a relationship.
As a woman, when I go down the street, I'm on guard.
I'm looking all over, especially in someone like Swindon or even Reading, where I'm from.
Or where I live.
And when I was around my boyfriend, like, I had no thoughts.
Zero thoughts.
I was like, this guy's going to protect me.
Like, it was just this natural instinct.
What's funny about that?
What's funny about that?
I can't even imagine it.
Just walking around, oh, my wife's serious and I can take my brain off.
Everything's groovy.
When you were dating your wife, right?
You know when you walk by a road and you switch sides?
Did she do the googly eyes?
- I don't remember. - Okay, right.
Well, any time, you'll know this, right?
If you walk in alongside a road and your boyfriend goes, oh, this way, so she, you know, car's coming this direction.
You just look at him like, oh, thanks. - When he did that, I thought it was a bit performative.
Like it was a shell of masculinity.
Like he was doing it to be a man rather, not to be a man necessarily.
Like, I think that's fine.
It was just more of like, okay, you do that, but like you expect me to pay for some of the dates.
Okay.
But that's, that's just stupid.
Yeah.
At that point, at that point I can see why he's an ex-boyfriend.
Let me put it that way.
The point being though, is that what, Underlies the Patrice O'Neill thing is she wants you to spontaneously be thinking of her and demonstrate you've been thinking of her.
Right.
And that, I think it's just, honestly, it's that message.
I think a lot of young men just don't hear.
I know I didn't hear it like when I was young and I mean, I'm not saying that I'm unhappy with my life as well or anything, but just this would have absolutely informed how I went through my relationships.
Right?
And it's just a piece of, like, timeless wisdom that probably my grandfather would have known, you know, which is why both my grandfathers were married from, you know, in their 20s until they died.
But for some reason, I don't know.
And I have to figure out, and I'm sure a lot of young people don't know, now they've got, women have got a bit right TikToks going, like, listen, you idiots.
This is not about the fact that you didn't text her.
This is not about that.
For the sake of the audience that are going to hate you in the segment, I want to delineate between What's moral, and what's just observably true and practical, and that's how it works.
I'm not making moral judgments!
I know you're not, I know you're not.
This is just the way women work!
I know, I agree, that's the category it is.
At the same time, I will make this delineation for the sake of the audience that are shouting at the screen, and going, the post hoc rationalization narrative of this, where she goes, and you just broke up and you're gonna say she's crazy, and you're gonna say it doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, some of this is completely crazy.
Some of this is just the abdication of personal responsibility.
Right now.
So this, this is where Jess comes on.
We come back to Jess's men and women just different, right?
Because this isn't actually crazy.
If you understand the logic of the pins, it's just as a man, you do not understand the logic from the underpins it because as a man, you don't want people essentially making decisions for you.
Right.
You are the author of all of your entire, the entire agency of your entire life as far as you're concerned.
Right.
But actually, as Jess just said, women don't feel that way.
Actually, a lot of women actually would like someone to be making their decisions for them, which as a man, you don't understand and feels weird.
Sure.
But to say that there is a continuity from here of events that you can infer a motivation from, that makes sense, especially if Physical differences between men and women, there's more risk being a woman than there is a man.
However, if you come out of a relationship, if you come out of multiple relationships where you're breaking up in this fashion, and you don't at least hope that there's a problem with you, if you think that this is all men that just ignore you in this way, then that is in fact crazy.
Because it's not very helpful to tell women that the problem is just that your boyfriend doesn't text you and doesn't think about you.
It is also, you may have a problem with the blokes you're selecting, if all of the blokes you're selecting are not autonomously looking at you in this fashion.
There's absolutely going to be a segment of women who always choose the kind of guys who will always fail to reciprocate the kind of relationship she's looking for.
What I think is interesting is the little love heart here, right?
What exactly is she going into the relationship expecting?
I was going to say, I think there's a difference between what women go into a relationship for and the men they choose, rather than why they stay in a relationship, if that makes sense.
Because I heard, probably from Chris Williamson or somewhere, that women go to men who intimidate other men, and they see them as a protector or provider.
But again, there's more levels to this.
You know, in a relationship, you want to see that protection carried through.
You want to have someone who can look after you and all that kind of stuff.
And like I said, I think because they've taken on the more feminine role as well.
There's this imbalance.
I think when you're a woman and you're expected to carry out the manual labour, the work, as well as doing the home labour, as well as doing the dishes, that kind of stuff, cooking, and that's just expected.
It's like, why am I taking on all of this?
And you expect the same of your partner.
I think that creates some Resentment, like internal... Sorry to interrupt, but I think that you're looking at this through the wrong lens, right?
Because you're looking at this in a very transactional way.
You're looking at, right, okay, he's going to do that, I'm going to do that, and this will be a fair balance on the scales.
But if you look at the framing that she's put out here, that's not what she's talking about at all.
None of these things come up, right?
What she's talking about is a love story.
A lot of women fall in love with a man thinking that he's going to be a part of like a Twilight novel or something like that, right?
And so she's not thinking about the burdens or anything like that.
What she's asking when she wants for the good morning text is to feel like Edward Cullen is watching her while she sleeps, right?
She wants to feel like she is the center of the love story.
That's happening.
And all of these other things come from the fact that he's not doing his part in the story and the narrative in her own head.
And so the, the little love heart, the sort of metaphysical bubble around her that she lives in, in this little enchanted world, that's the thing that you're trying to protect.
You're not trying to solve any of these little problems because when she feels like she's in that love heart, none of these problems matter.
That's the problem.
And so this is the issue with myself when I was young.
And the way I think that you're framing it, I'm not saying you're wrong, right?
But the problem is it's kind of a second order consideration.
The first order consideration that is generally going unspoken It's just assumed out there in love.
What's that even mean?
You know, it's like, no, in, in a lot of women's minds, they think they're living through a romantic novel and that's the narrative.
And so this, this is what young men are not being told about.
Like, this is the thing.
It's like, no, no, you've got to understand how they think.
Don't worry about everything else.
Cause I mean, we've all been there.
We, you know, women will make excuses for almost anything if they love this guy.
Right.
And men will do the same thing for women that they love.
You know, I'm not saying there's nothing on the other side of this, but like, I just found this to be a really fascinating, um, laying out of the issue because all of these things are just, you're not playing your role in the story.
That's what I really want to have.
Do you think the way modern media interprets love is sort of leading to this, like you said, and I guess why is that wrong?
How has it changed from that?
Because when you think of the traditional love stories, like Snow White, For one, it's not during the relationship.
It's not really the love story, actually?
Well, I guess, like, the prince comes and kisses her and that kind of thing.
Yeah, I guess so, yeah.
Yeah, or like Cinderella and that kind of thing.
You know, it's around, again, the chase, the build-up and that kind of stuff.
So I guess, like, there isn't this interpretation of after the build-up.
Like, a lot of love stories don't actually depict, even in the modern day, I guess, other than Twilight, as you said, they don't depict during the relationship.
It's just the start of the relationship and also as well like a lot of people don't have don't have parents who are together anymore so I wonder if that may be a part of it.
There's no model of it.
A lot of the relationships DeRougemont wrote about this are the most passionate love stories are either the ones where it's happily ever after you don't see it or they're unrequited or unfulfilled so like Romeo and Juliet Their love is perfect because they can never be separated because they both died together.
So you never actually see them end up happy.
So that's why I said, is it even a love story?
Because like, what's the content of the relationship?
Like you're saying, you know, it's like, if anything, a lot of these things seem like tragedies.
The modern relationship is the very Randian conception, which is that two rational actors come together of equal sexual market value.
That's why you're framing of like, well, what about the libertarians?
No, no, I'm not.
I'm not blaming anyone for anything like that.
It's just like the whole thing that this is predicated on is a romance, right?
And she's trying to buy into a romantic story that she's the star of and you're the co-star of.
You know, you're the object of her desire.
And so by the time it gets to her being like, look, look at all these little problems.
Clearly you're not, I'm not the person in your story that I want you to be mine.
That she's just like, okay, well, it's not that she doesn't cause a lot of guys will look at this and go, well, am I ugly?
You know, am I not earning enough money?
And it's like, no, none of those things were a consideration.
That's what this is all about.
She, you know, the fact that you were in a relationship with her to begin with was all of those things are off the table.
The problem is you're not romantic.
And I know that my wife is going to watch this and be like, Oh, is he not romantic, Carl?
You know?
I'm like, yeah, I'll have to, I'll have to get some flowers.
I've got dinner with my missus after this.
I do agree with Jess.
I'm making a rod for my own back.
I do agree with Jess in that this is also a product of like modern-ish relationship norms and optionality because before In small communal towns with peer pressure and arranged marriages, if there was this bump, these minor considerations would be worked through because you had the axiom of commitment that you were going through.
You wouldn't just split up because you'd automatically assume this person is no longer contributing to making me my best self, therefore my hypothetical soulmate who will send me the good morning text is out there, so I can just tear this relationship up quite easily.
Yeah, and it's not even about the good morning texts, that's the thing.
It's about her just wanting to feel like she's at the centre of your story.
Because she's putting you at the centre of hers.
So anyway, leave it at that.
Great, so the last segment.
Oh yeah, there we go.
We're rationing the tech over here at the Lotus.
Great, so Diversity Built Britain, I'm sure that's a statement we can all agree with, with this amazing Richie Sunak Diversity Built Britain coin.
This is my sleep paralysis demon.
How did they make him, how was they able to make him look even more terrifying?
I think it's the wrinkles and the bulging eyes.
Scary.
So I recently did a Vox Pop in Whitechapel to interview the diversity and get their opinions on Britain.
For all those who don't know, Whitechapel is a very... Islamified?
Yeah, as you can see by the sign behind me.
Yeah, you can see on the signage there that you can't read it.
So let's see what the diversity think of Britain.
British culture is better now, it's not only the British culture, it's all the mixed colour, because so many nation peoples live here.
What do you like about British culture?
It's OK.
What do you like about it?
Well, my future is here.
What do you mean by that?
50 years now I'm living here.
Where would you consider your homeland to be?
Well, I'd go back to India.
Do you prefer Britain or India?
India.
Why?
That's my own country.
What would you say your homeland is?
My homeland is in Bangladesh.
Would you prefer Bangladesh culture or British culture?
This is a slightly complicated question, but as I'm born in Bangladesh, obviously I like the Bangladesh culture, but British culture is really, really good.
What do you like about British culture?
Nank!
So yeah, what do you guys think?
I guess that guy thinks British culture's good.
No but the reason why he thinks British culture is good, he's the guy at the start who said British culture is good because it's less British.
Well it's also, he sees it as, relative to his homeland, this economic opportunity zone has given me the lifestyle I like while also allowing me to exist in an ethnic and cultural enclave.
Whereas the kid that should have asked him, should Bangladesh have lots of different cultures in it?
He'd call you a colonialist, wouldn't he?
I don't think he would.
I think, like, when I was interviewing these people, they're actually more open than, like, the white liberals in Shoreditch.
I was quite surprised.
I was saying some edgy stuff to them, like, where's your homeland?
And they didn't clock on, like, hmm, maybe she's not.
No, no, but that's because that's old world thinking, right?
They're not modern, rationalistic, new world liberals.
They are just I don't want to say tribal because it sounds condescending, but I'm a tribal person.
In group preference.
No, no, no.
That's missing the point.
It's like they are a situated people in a time, in a place, on a continuum of a civilization that belongs to this thing.
And so if you say, where's your homeland?
Oh, India, obviously.
Bangladesh or whatever.
But this is why, as I was going to say, the kid at the end with the most British sounding accent, who is obviously not a foreign expatriate, he's the son of immigrants, has gone, I hate this place.
Yeah.
Because he is the most dislodged man.
Yeah.
Because he doesn't have that continuum of a homeland to live within.
He's literally a global nomad.
Yeah, so you've populated the country with a bunch of multicultural expatriates who, if they've never known anything else, only know the place they feel actively hates them.
So you've filled the country with people that hate the country.
It's not even that they feel the place actively hates them, it's that they're disconnected from the social texture that their fathers and grandfathers But they're told that the country has always hated people that look like them, invaded their nation, and actively is Islamophobic at the moment.
So they do think that the institutions do hate them.
But even if they do think that, they still don't like the country because they don't feel like they're a part of something to which they belong.
That's the thing.
Even in places that are terrible, that have oppression and stuff like that, people still feel they belong there.
Well I guess by making their own culture in Whitechapel, this is their belonging, this is their perception of Britain.
Is it their own culture?
There's no one ethnicity?
Yeah, my next one I want to ask like Muslims, what do they think of having a Hindu Prime Minister and all that kind of thing?
That would be very funny.
I reckon I'll get some spicy responses.
But I think as well, a thing to catch on is the guy who said he's been there for 50 years and he still prefers his own country.
How's that integration going for you?
How's that multiculturalism?
Yeah, I'm sure they're British as the rest of us.
Yeah, but didn't you know we have magic soil?
You spend 50 years in a place and I'm like, yeah, I wish I was at home.
Why didn't you go home?
Well, you lived on the Germans for like eight years and you wanted to come back to England.
Yeah, it didn't even occur to me.
I never wanted to live in Germany.
So therefore, why should we be surprised that anyone else, right?
It's just that our elite... Well, yeah, no, I'm not surprised at all.
But like, I just don't know why you would spend 50 years somewhere and be like, yeah, I kind of wish I was at home.
It's like, then go.
Yeah, absolutely.
I kind of prefer doing these kind of videos than just going to the liberal parts of Shoreditch and asking them, because these are the people we're talking about when we're talking about immigration.
If I wanted some left out opinion, I could just go on Twitter, whereas these people, they aren't represented.
It's important we represent these minorities' voices, so hopefully there's more of that.
I do want to clarify as well, you did bring a bodyguard, basically, here.
Yeah, Charlie Dahl.
Yeah, a normal camera woman.
You brought someone that was capable of, um... You weren't exactly dressed like the Islamic area, Jess, I'll put it that way.
Yeah, my trad wife.
Trad wife help.
Yeah, literally a trad wife.
One of the von Trapps, I mean.
Yeah, my normal camera woman is... She's like five foot and she's from China.
I was like, yeah, I'll bring Charlie down.
So he's like a bodybuilder.
So I thought, again, straight from the horse's mouth, two British Muslims discussing how much they hate non-Muslims and tolerate living among them.
Have you guys seen this?
Our hatred for the non-Muslims doesn't stop us from being unjust to them.
My argument would be it also doesn't stop us from coexisting with them, living in a society with them, But I can be in a land where I live with these people, but I have hate for them, I don't like them.
I say that is, at the time that we're living in today, it's very, very hard to claim that.
Imposing onto you, saying that you have to accept the British values.
Dan, Muslims are being put in situations where they're asked, are you a Muslim first or are you a British first?
Yeah, but these are easy questions to answer.
I'm a Muslim first.
Like, what's the issue?
But that's you not being loyal to the country that you claim to be from.
You see, that's what Muslims are now.
By saying that statement, you're a foreigner from us now.
Feelings mutual, mate.
No, but that's really, really interesting, right?
Because the guy on the left, he's totally right.
The Muslim guy obviously doesn't understand this.
But what neither of them seem to understand is they've turned hatred into a virtue.
They've said, no, to be Muslim in non-Muslim countries, we have to nurture hatred against the other.
We're not going to treat them unjustly.
It's like, oh yeah, I trust you on that one.
You know, we just hate you actually, but don't worry, we're not going to do anything unjust to you.
But they've turned the act of hating the other person into the virtue.
That's terrifying.
It's to preserve the cultural and ethnic identity from the forces of multicultural assimilation.
Yes.
So that's a terrifying thing to just say.
I also think it's so interesting how they recognise the conflict between, I don't know what they define British values as, that's a very flimsy definition.
The UK government's going to be like, oh it's diversity and tolerance and inclusivity.
Yeah, but even just this general idea of British values, how they recognise a conflict between being Muslim and believing in these British values, when in reality it's like, why wouldn't you want to be in a country Where your values are reflected.
Like, I don't understand that.
Like, I went to Budapest last week and it's just like, this place is actually great.
It's like, if I was to immigrate over here, it's like, these are the types of values that I want.
Like, I don't understand.
Well, I do understand because it's economic reasons, but like... Well, it's also imperial.
Yeah.
It's an actively imperialistic ideology.
I mean, that statement is going to be criminalized under the next Islamophobia definition, but the Quran does instruct you to conquer by the sword or by a taqiyah.
So excuse me if I don't think that you're actively subverting the institutions you claim to hate in your own words.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the point of this segment is just to realise that this country, Britain, is not for us anymore.
It is for the immigrants.
And I just want to go through... As if the debates in Parliament aren't clear enough about that.
I just want to go through some case studies, some examples, to just, like, lay home the case.
So, the first one, Gaza Galloway, and you can tell, like, it's He wasn't campaigning.
Well, he did slightly campaign, like, grooming gangs and... His first words were, this is for Gaza.
We won.
Like, you know, I mean, I actually don't dislike George Galloway on a personal level, because I think he's a great rhetorician, and he's more interesting than a manager.
So is Satan.
Yeah, but exactly.
He occupies the basic position in British politics that Satan would in the Bible.
So...
I think it's very telling, though, how with the new wave of people coming over, this is the issue that they focus on, not local schools.
Well, if it is local schools, it's turning them Muslim, realistically, isn't it?
As you laid out in your last segment.
And I think it's quite sad.
It is quite sad that we're not prioritising the British people anymore.
Politicians, they're actively campaigning for the immigrant population, pretty much.
Yeah, and then the next one, so Callum covered this yesterday I believe, so there was a recent medical scandal where, I think it's Nigerian families, there was a scandal of
Basically young people doing the coursework of their parents for them and there's over like 700 cases of this reported by the Guardian reported by the Daily Mail and this thread just adequately shows the attitude of people like five degrees in my family and I'd say responsible for four of them and there's just so many so many more examples like this thread goes on so long
Well, the interesting thing about this thread is that as soon as Steve Laws pointed this out, they started saying, oh man, the racists have shown up!
Why didn't you keep your mouth shut?
And it's because they have a distinct cultural and ethnic in-group preference, and they see the British population existing in an economic zone, And the extraction of those resources from that population is totally fair if they are liable for being taken for fools.
I mean, there's a reason this is from Nigeria.
There's a reason this guy actually, funnily enough, has Finesse in his name.
That is a phrase, that and 419, is associated with the numerous scams that Nigerians run.
And if anyone's ever got one of these scam emails or scam calls, have you ever noticed the language in broken English is really stupid?
No one's going to believe it.
They engineer it for specifically the dumbest people to do, because they're more likely to milk those people for their money.
So they see you as actually deserving of being robbed, and that's how they see our entire country.
Yeah, well, this is the thing.
It's like, we're always talking about diversity as a strength, all these doctors and nurses coming over.
Well, if this is the quality of the doctors and nurses, I'd rather not have them.
But I think it's quite telling.
A part of Callum's segment yesterday, there is something that you should be, like, You should be quite concerned.
You should be quite morally concerned about this going on rather than just laughing at it.
Yeah, it's awful.
I mean, it explains why the rest of the world is terrible and explains why the European countries are great.
Because if we actually have standards that we expect and do keep to, then that makes things better.
If you're just grifting your way through other people's standards, you're just going to reduce everything to the position you were in when you began.
That's why life expectancies are going down and mortality is going down.
It's atrocious.
Well I just think on like a moral level as well, like how could you live with yourself?
Because they don't see universal moral considerations, that's a purely Christian, post-Christian if you're liberal way of looking at it.
They see morals as tribal.
I just think it's completely terrible and again like you said the consequences of this, mortality rates going down, it's really sad and it's a very selfish thing as well.
Next one's social housing, what should be, I think as a libertarian, I'm very sceptical of social housing as it is, but I think if we are going to have some sort of social housing, it should be for those who really need it.
Who need help in society, pretty much.
But no, it just seems like a scam at the moment.
It's totally bonkers.
Why should someone born outside of the UK be entitled to get the UK taxpayer to pay for them to live in London?
And this is also why 60% of babies in London are born to immigrant mothers, because they're the only ones that are having subsidised housing, therefore they can afford to have multiple children right off the back, because the state will pick up the cost.
It's just mad.
It's just absolutely mad.
Yeah, I do think there is something to social housing and just with the benefit system within, like, there is no social contract anymore, but this idea of, like, my ancestors, my ancestors have, you know, contributed to this.
And so, you know, if I need some help, you know, there is some sort of justification for that.
More than this, where people coming over are just getting free housing.
Meanwhile, as young people, as I'm sure Connor can relate to, It is impossible to get a house nowadays, and I don't know why young people aren't at the front of fighting against mass immigration.
Because, as René Camus, purveyor of hate facts, has often said, anti-racism is the communism of the 21st century.
Our countries only exist insofar as they can provide handouts to those they designate as disadvantaged, which are the poor foreigners who aren't as enlightened to us.
More than that though, the entire morality of young people These days is based on equality, inclusion and diversity.
They don't have a moral framework outside of it.
And so, okay, well, yeah, I guess that, you know, some poor Somalian mum has to bring her seven children over and I've got to work to pay for it as I live in an increasingly expensive rented property just outside of London to commute in so she can live in London because that's what equity is.
It's like, yeah, well, I guess if you have a sort of universal view of what equity looks like, sure.
But I mean, anyone who takes a civilizational view and says, well, what about actually British children in Britain that are born to ancestrally British families and will leave an ancestrally British legacy?
How does that look fair to them?
And actually, it's not.
It's total exploitation to you.
It's disgusting that it's possible.
It just shouldn't be possible for people born outside the country to ever claim any benefits in the country.
That should be off the table.
And if I moved to Somalia or bloody France or wherever, I repeat myself.
Then I should be off the table to claim their benefits.
If I don't like it, I should go home.
I think you only need to be in the country for five years.
I think it is.
And then you're eligible to claim social housing.
I think that's the rules.
Jack Anderson has done like a wave of videos on this.
He's super good on the topic.
And for those who are just listening, it's 47.6% of social housing occupants in London are immigrants.
Half of them!
You know how high the prices of renting in London is?
I can't afford to rent in London and I'm a student in London and they're prioritising people who weren't even born in this country.
It's ridiculous.
But I'm paying for it.
With my bloody taxes.
The next one, have you guys seen this video?
Unfortunately.
It's quite an old one but it's during the rounds recently and I think this just hammers home the point.
Coming here is just a mental torture.
It's a prison.
You can leave!
This is wrong!
This is wrong!
What they're doing to people is wrong!
Trust me, it's not the right thing to do!
Because how can you be at home and you can't even leave like home?
I'm sorry, but how much would that be in London, Conor, for a place like that?
£2,100 a month plus bills.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's completely ridiculous.
I just can't stand the entitlement.
I just can't get an entitlement.
I'm a single mother, I've arrived in your country, and I deserve a really nice place to live.
It's like, why are you here?
Do you think they think the average British person lives like royalty or something?
What do they actually think about the rest of us if they think that is, you know, being... Yeah, that's perfectly good.
I've lived in way worse places than that, and I've had to pay for it.
Have you seen that video?
I couldn't find it but there's this one of this immigrant family and it's of the mum and basically they have two houses across the road.
The Afghans, yes.
Yeah, they've got like five or six kids and so they said that the house was too small so they just gave them another like manor house on the corner right opposite the other one.
There was another one of the African woman that Sadiq Khan went round to chat with, and she was saying the living conditions are awful, there's mould everywhere, and then we saw that she'd put tape over all the ducts in the house, and then the smoke alarm battery went off as well.
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Anyway, keep radicalising me Jess, go on.
You certainly radicalized me against the government.
Because these people aren't doing this to us.
The government is doing this to us.
These people are just taking advantage of the things the government lets them do.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I can't actually fault these people for what they're doing.
I can fault them, but there's no point faulting them.
I wouldn't do it.
Yeah, but there's no point faulting them.
Like being like, okay, we're going to throw open our gates to the entire world.
And what a surprise, the exploitative people and they're like, yeah, okay, I'm signing up to that.
No shock.
You should have known that was going to happen.
The problem is the Conservative government have allowed this to happen.
Yeah, they're not stealing our money.
I bet Tony Blair didn't do this!
They're not stealing our money, the government is.
Not to go all libertarian, but it's true.
No, but it's true.
And it's the same with this.
I'm sure you guys are aware.
Universities are investigated over foreign students with poor grades.
So basically, international students are allowed in on much lower entry requirements than UK students.
So as it says here, So you can get into the same university.
For a UK student, you need A star, AA or 3 As.
And as an international student, you need just 5 C or B grades at GCSE.
So not even A levels?
I think as well with A-Levels as well, because I understand, I get it right, with international students, they're getting different requirements, you know, they don't have A-Levels.
But even with this, the standards are C's for Bristol, CCD for Durham, DDE for Exeter, DDE for Newcastle and a single D at Leeds.
These are Russell Group universities, these are top tier universities.
You could at least make GCSE French would get me into Leeds.
Yeah, make them take an entry requirement.
You could make them take an entry exam, but they don't, and the reason is the foreign students, usually the sons and daughters of Chinese billionaires, will pay exorbitantly more fees, and will pay for the really expensive accommodation that is associated with the university, because they want to live in more luxurious settings, and so the university just milked them as a cash cow and they don't care about academic standards.
Well, I was doing an interview, a Vox Pop, with international students.
Well, not just international students, but I go to KCL and it's like half the students there are international students.
And for one, they don't contribute during lessons, which just puts more pressure on the students there.
Like, if you're in a group project... I was in a group project and the other two people I was with, they were both international.
They could barely speak English.
They were using, like, Google Translate.
It's like, okay, I guess I'm doing the whole project then.
But I was doing a Vox Pop and I was hoping for, like, some woke, lefty students.
The students I interviewed, they had no opinions.
They were doing world politics, so I was like, okay, they're doing world politics, I'll ask them about Israel and Palestine.
They had no opinions on it at all.
I asked PP students about Rishi Sunak.
No, I asked them about Nigel Farage.
They didn't know who Nigel Farage was.
How many of them were Chinese?
I didn't ask Chinese ones, actually.
Really?
That's interesting.
Because I would have thought they would have withheld their opinions, were they Chinese students, in case of being caught on camera saying something that their home nation didn't like.
No, and then I spoke to my friend about it, who was an international student, and she was like, yeah, we've, like, the international students have known this for a long time, you know, it's a well known, like, not so hidden secret.
So yeah.
And as well, considering that university is supposed to be the be-all end-all, I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
This idea that university is the best thing in the world, that it's going to lead to future career progression, and you get there, everyone's just getting drunk and half the class doesn't even speak English, and then you can't even get a job from it.
It's completely ridiculous.
I'm surprised you can't get a job from that.
Shocking.
And then this is on the medical malpractice thing we discussed ages ago.
Ages ago?
Five minutes ago.
So if you actually look at the cases of medical malpractice, they're not very English names, I'll tell you that.
And Anglo Futurists did a poll, not a poll, a graphic on it, which shows that Blimey, 61%?
Yeah, 61% of the cases.
The NHS's composition of foreign doctors is only about 25-30%.
Okay, alright then.
Great doctors and nurses, yeah.
Without them, the NHS won't survive, Jess.
And meanwhile as well... Safer to be on the waiting list.
It is, isn't it?
And as we've seen all this, I think it's important to realise that if you, as you've shown in your segment, you can't react against this.
You can't have a comment, an opinion on this at all.
And if you are, then you get thrown in prison, as shown with Sam Malaya.
And I think it was the court, the jury said that he was an example.
He was meant to be an example.
Like how is that even a thing?
So I found out from a source close to the case, you know the Hitler poster that they found in his garage and said this is proof of intent?
It was a comedic poster that his friend had printed out of Hitler doing pull-ups and it was rolled up and it wasn't even put up.
So... I don't trust them.
No, no, neither do I. Look, again, Sam's part of PA.
Mark Collett heads up PA.
Mark Collett's... No, I mean, I don't trust the police.
I don't trust the authorities.
No, neither do I. I don't trust either.
He should not be thrown in prison for the statements on these stickers that were included in the court case, such as reject white guilt.
But meanwhile, as shown by the Palestine protests, they can get away with anything and it doesn't get reported.
They don't get any offences.
And it's just so laughable when they say far-right extremism is the case.
What far-right?
Where is the far-right?
If this is the far-right, I don't think we have anything to be afraid of, quite frankly.
And again, like, British democracy being targeted by far-right and islamic... Sorry, my voice is going... Why is far-right first?
Like, considering all the terror incidents, considering... Remember that case where that autistic kid... Scuffed a Qur'an?
Yeah, and he was being sent death threats.
What about the Batley Grammar School teacher?
Yeah, who's still in... Four years in hiding?
Do we know who he is?
Any security for him, or just all the security going to the mosques?
I just think it's very symbolic of where Britain is going.
It's not for the British people anymore.
I don't think it's been for the British people for a long time, and I think that's the future.
And like you've covered on your segment, Connor, this is what extremism means, which I think will cover most of us and everyone we know at this point.
And it's just to silence us, I think.
Yeah, that could be defined as broadly or as narrowly as they like.
Yeah, I can't wait to be sitting in a holding cell next to a mass murderer and he asks, what did you do?
And I say, cited ONS statistics.
But yeah, that's how diversity is our strength, I guess.
And you can follow me on Twitter.
Thanks, Sean.
With that, onto the video comments!
Hi guys!
Just popping in to say thank you for your segment during International Women's Day, where you directly addressed Just Pearlie Things' claims that modern women are not good enough for men, or that men shouldn't get married.
As you can probably tell, I am a woman, so I appreciate you guys doing that on behalf of us.
Also, congratulations to Connor on your new show.
Really good job on that, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Oh, thank you very much.
Really appreciate that.
As for the Manosphere segment, it's worth addressing.
We had a fair bit of heat, I think it was.
Fair to characterize it as, but a lot of it was a objection to the fact that we said the Manosphere is wrong about marriage, and a lot of the older Manosphere guys were saying, well, Pearly Things, Tate, Myron Gaines doesn't represent us.
The unfortunate thing about that is, okay, one, Rollo Tomassi agrees with their statement.
Two, sorry gents, like some of you guys might be really well-intentioned, and you know, Redhawk's a nice fella, but The predominant messaging is from those guys, they get the majority of the views, and so it's fair to say that they are the horses who have pulled ahead of the pack, and so if they're characterising the current cultural direction of travel, we have to attack the arguments as they've been presented.
It's not that we're unsympathetic to the position as well.
No, we weren't in that segment.
No, I didn't think we were.
But people just misread vibes.
People don't read content, they misread vibes.
Sam!
Get ready for the greatest cringe ever.
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Black Painter's Academy.
Keepin' it black from front to back.
You know, I'll let it go.
I'm happy with it.
Is there context for... Apparently it's Kickstarter.
That's the only context we've got.
He's not quite Bob Ross, is he?
I like the rhyme, though.
That was very similar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the most will do.
Right on to the next one.
sitting in a bar in el paso some years ago i was racking my brain trying to identify a song on the music system right here right now by jesus jones about witnessing the end of the cold war with the collapse of the soviets i lived through it and think it's such a shame that the moment means so little to the younger generation of today it's ancient history now
yeah i was talking to a very nice boomer last night and he was saying you have genuinely never grown up knowing england Like, we grew up in post Blair years, we don't even remember 9-11, and so we've never known any different, we don't have it in our frame of reference.
I don't think I was alive during 9-11.
What year were you born?
2003?
No you weren't, yeah.
Lord Nerevan says it's my birthday today so as a present I have to be named a Dirty Dirty Smur Merchant by Carl and honor few achieve actually and honor loads of them achieve but you are definitely one Dirty Dirty Smur Merchant Lord Nerevan although you're not I don't know why you want me to call you that we've got one more video comment by the way oh do we sorry it is all well and good to worry about the future of one civilization
however the greatest morale booster is to embody the change you want to see and go out into your community as a dreadnought I I have found that inspiring wonder and hope in others is perhaps one of the greatest things a person could do.
I feel that this was purposefully ironic.
I hope so, because I just love the idea.
I've decided to go out into my community as literally a death machine and inspire wonder.
It's like, yeah, they're definitely inspiring wonder.
You should put a little placard around his neck saying, free hugs.
The Diddly Doodler sends us a Rumble Soup chat and says, first time catching you guys live from the West Coast.
You guys do great work.
Thanks very much.
Thank you.
Neon Realist sent in a dollar and said, Connor wasn't mentioned in Hope Not Hate's report.
Unacceptable.
Well, it's a question of relevance, isn't it?
I mean, they used a photo of you when you were still fat.
I know!
Ironically, I think I'm going to send them a new photo.
Josie's Angel says, isn't the goal of marriage to be a successful unit?
Love and happiness are rewards for actions, not a state of being.
Man, that is an interesting way of framing it, because the success follows from the love in the Western conception of marriage, which is why it's so different to various other conceptions of marriage.
That's very much an Eastern way of looking at it.
The definition of love, as articulated traditionally by Christianity, is the willing of the good and the other without expectation of favor and return.
So if you're mutually doing that, then yeah, every single win that your unit your household unit of which the components are inextricable racks up is a win for you both, but it's downstream of your good intentions to the other person.
Sure.
But in the sort of Western mind, like it doesn't matter if it brings success, like, you know, struggling poor people in love with each other who just had nothing but one It's a romantic story we tell ourselves.
Sure, but I'm not just talking like purely material.
No, no, I know, I know.
But it's, again, like we definitely take a different view on this than other cultures.
But anyway, Baystape says, Oh, I see.
It's the hate monster and white male entitlement causing all the violence in Glasgow.
I thought it was gangland thuggery and being number one in hard drug usage in the whole of Europe.
No, it must just be they didn't watch children's cartoon about getting grumpy.
That'll fix it.
Yeah, I'm sure the hate monster is what's shoving all those Asians in front of trains in San Francisco.
Man, I tell you what.
When I went to New York in like 2018, my wife was like, can we go on the subway?
And I was just like, no.
You seem to deploy the National Guard down there now.
Apparently, yeah.
It's just... Narco-tyranny!
Yeah, I mean, it's got a lot worse since I was there as well.
Kevin says, an ideology of intolerance and violence.
Well, that's all the Muslims got then.
No?
Oh, you do surprise me.
It's going to be a blasphemy law, it's true.
A.I.
Be Quirky says, or I'll be quirky, says, hate is a human emotion.
Is love illegal?
What about compassion?
How does one make an emotion legal?
Yeah, but hate is also a vice, so that's what they're leading to with that.
Matt says, notice how they won't criminalize peaceful beliefs held in private, basically saying you have freedom of speech until you go public with it.
And the question is then, is that freedom of speech?
But the Scottish National Party did want to criminalise jokes made at your dining table.
Yes.
So they don't agree with freedom of speech in private, actually.
No, because, as we've covered in our video on Comprehensive Liberalism, it's a contradiction to say that there can be inequality existing in the private sphere, because then you are insufficiently liberal.
Therefore, we must root out all inequality in both the public and private spheres.
Therefore, jokes criminalised.
North FC Zoomer says zero seats.
Zero seats.
And to be honest with you, like, I'm down for it at this point.
I want to see the Conservatives, like, historic collapse.
I'm actually kind of looking forward to it.
So, um, I have since been told as well that Badmok is definitely keeping her seat.
Gove has had internal polling saying he might lose his.
Time to get out and campaign for Labour, guys.
He might lose to Lib Dems, I think, in his constituency.
Sorry, Liberal Democrats, it's whatever.
I'm surprised he won't just defect to them.
Because, I mean, he literally is a Liberal Democrat.
Matt says, I did enjoy Galloway absolutely mogging Humza Yousaf with his based unlike you I'm a Celt tweet.
That's a fairly old one, actually.
Yeah, so it's a couple of years old.
But it is funny.
Michael says, these new speak definitions are double plus good brothers.
Which they are.
Someone online says, if a woman starts putting you through shit tests, you need to dump her immediately.
Yes, but that's not what that video is about.
Those things weren't shit tests.
What she was doing is asking for you to... They weren't shit tests.
No, no, no, I'm not saying that.
I don't think I agree with someone online.
All right, go on.
Well, I think Jess might agree with me here.
I think shit tests are often involuntary.
Because, so, okay, this is a very... Yeah, no, no, it might be that they don't even know what they're doing.
No.
I had a text yesterday, no, this morning, sorry, from my girlfriend who said, this is the first time last night I've ever had a dream that a boyfriend has been cheating on me.
I woke up mad.
Right.
And you've said that your wife... Oh, my wife does this to me.
Yeah.
And it's because that speaks to an underlying anxiety that you are the person they love most and the most valuable, not in the transactional sense, but person in their life.
And so they're worried about losing you.
And so, in the same way, the shit test is a non-intentional way of registering that not only do you still care about her, but that you are still capable enough of weathering an emotional storm to take care of her compared to other men.
So it's just a natural evolutionary mechanism.
Like getting mad at it is basically getting mad at female nature.
And okay, good luck being single.
What do you think, Jess?
Yeah, I think...
I've never done it personally, I don't think.
I don't think so.
It's more so been for me, like you said, it's not intentional.
It's more so when they don't give the response that I think they'll give, or that I hope they give, even if I don't hope when I say or when I do it.
And then I feel kind of disappointed after and then I'm like, hmm.
You know, and then it starts to... You start getting the ick.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm right.
Well, no, I think that's a good point, actually.
I'd never really thought about it, but you're probably right that shit tests probably are involuntary, but also not a bad thing.
So I can think of times where my wife has demanded something and I've just put such a flat no about that thing.
And I can tell that she's happier that I've said it.
She's going like, oh, OK.
Yeah.
Well, like?
Oh, I'm not going to say anything.
Oh no, just like, can we buy a, can we get a pet?
It's like flat no, you know, just it's not happening.
We've got enough pets, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Stuff like that.
But just whenever, whenever I'm just like, that's just off the table.
Like she's never unhappy that I've said that.
But anyway, Omar says, are some women getting jealous of the Roman Empire?
You should be thinking about me.
I recently saw a video of a woman expressing her disbelief that a man can spend time thinking about literally nothing.
Yeah, kind of.
But it's more, I think, that she wants to just feel that she's that part of your love story.
And without properly expressing that, that's why she wants the text.
Because she wants to think that you're longing for her, in a Romeo and Juliet way.
That's what it is.
Also, the argument is preferable to apathy, because apathy is the end of passion.
So this is something I heard someone else say days ago.
Most women would rather take a negative interaction over no interaction, whereas most men would rather take no interaction over a negative interaction.
Because to be starved of social stimulus is awful for most women.
So they can't understand that if we're not thinking about something, it doesn't... Watching Jess's expression here as she listens to this.
I was just trying to think about... You look slightly sceptical there.
Yeah, it's only me and my female friends just like... We kind of get a kick out of saying negative social interaction.
We kind of have fun doing that and that's the tea for today.
Do you guys... Because when I have a crush on someone, that's all I can think about.
I become autistic about them.
Do you guys ever have that?
When do you become autistic?
This is a common woman thing.
I'm sure men have it.
Yeah, I mean, you think about, like, the person when they're not there.
Yeah, but, like, all the time.
No.
No.
Not all the time.
I mean, not when I'm doing something.
Yeah.
It's genuinely, like, it's the incompatibility of female and male nature.
Got stuff to do.
Sorry, darling.
Joshua says, blaming the immigrants for civilization collapse is like blaming the gun for a mass shooting.
Yeah, Joshua, I totally agree on that.
There's no point getting angry at immigrants.
They're just doing what they're incentivized to do by our own government.
The question is, why are they allowed to do it?
Screwtapelazer says, Carl, don't shy away from using the word tribal.
It's appropriate.
I've been interacting with these people as academics, co-founders, and co-workers for over a decade.
They will treat you differently.
They will treat our children differently.
I'm not, I'm not, it's not, there's no problem with the word tribal for me.
The problem is I didn't want to sound condescending and first worldist or something like that.
Um, because I didn't want to imply that I'm not tribalist.
Oh, I am.
I'm just like that guy.
Um, I just didn't have a better way of saying it that wouldn't make sure that distinction was clear.
Um, Sophie says, well, Carl, at home he doesn't get a free welfare check.
Well, that's totally true.
Shelley says, personal accountability, duty and community are what I think British families should be.
Without one of these, a country will fall and which is why we're seeing Britain fall.
Probably true.
Robert says, Jess, the follow up to your, do you prefer your home culture should have been what they do better there than we do here.
Yeah, there were a lot of things that I wish I would have said, but I was a bit nervous for an understandable reason.
I think I am going to do it again.
There were a lot more spicy questions, which again, I don't think they'll catch on.
No, they won't see it as being spicy because they'll be like, okay, that's a normal question.
And also, no one's asking them as well.
They're not the ones afraid of the far-right opposition, whatever that means.
It's just the random leftists on Twitter, really.
It's the liberals.
Liberals are concerned about them.
You're also not a contentious person.
What's that supposed to mean?
Content, quick!
They don't take your questions as combative.
Yeah, you don't seem abrasive.
No, you're quite disarming.
You come to them with a sort of positive demeanour and then say subtextually edgy stuff so you can get away with it.
I think that's probably the best way to do it because otherwise, there's no point arguing, just let them dig their own grave and they do most of the time.
Especially when they're not on guard.
I couldn't do that.
I'm far too blunt.
I suppose we're running up against time.
We've got Lads Hour in half an hour.
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