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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #871

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, And today I'm joined by Calvin Robertson.
	Hello, how do you do?
	And Beau.
	Hey.
	And today we're going to be talking about Motherland's not returning, puberty blockers getting blocked, and the absolute state of hope not hate.
	Which is a weird amount of rhyming to it now that I say it out loud, but there we are.
	Anyway, I have some announcements to make, which is going to be good fun.
	First and foremost, I believe it's Thursday today, right?
	Am I right?
	All right, there we are.
	So tomorrow we'll be doing Lads Hour and we have chosen rude foods.
	So we're going to go and look at these things on screen, which if you're an audio listener, um, can't say the names, sorry.
	So there's that.
	And, um, we're going to be trying some and looking at the origins of some of these names, which are weirdly interesting.
	Can you actually not say the names?
	I don't want to get in trouble.
	I can say spot a dick, can't I?
	Okay.
	That's all right.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	So do come and join us.
	We'll have a laugh.
	But a couple of other announcements.
	So first and foremost, we go to the next one here.
	I have to mention that Calvin Robinson Show will be on after this podcast.
	So do get your tea and biscuits and then come back for the Common Sense Crusade.
	And the last thing to mention being the Job opportunity.
	There is a career on the careers page.
	So if you go to the website, make sure you're signed out.
	There's a bug.
	Otherwise, scroll all the way down.
	There's a career section and go and take a look.
	It's production manager position.
	I know what this is.
	Oh, this is exciting.
	So go and give that a read.
	If it's good for you, apply.
	If not, don't.
	Enjoy your day.
	And we'll get on with the show, I guess.
	Alrighty.
	Right.
	This is going to be another weird one.
	I don't know if you're familiar, but occasionally I kind of draw a blank when I'm writing these.
	Right.
	And so this might be crap, but let's see.
	Let's do it.
	So I wanted to see, or at least talk about Motherlands, because there's a lot in that word, I feel.
	And this was sparked by seeing Jess Gill do this interview where she's gone to, I think it was Whitechapel.
	Which is a largely non-English area.
	Whitechapel in Pakistan?
	Yes, Greater Pakistan, which now includes parts of London.
	And she's asking these guys about what they like about British culture and blah, blah, blah.
	But the phrase that got me in there, she asked them, where's your homeland?
	And every single one of them is like, oh, my homeland is back in Pakistan.
	OK, right.
	There's something about that phrase.
	I mean, in English, we usually use homeland, but in the rest of the world, motherland or fatherland.
	Well, I think they have different meanings.
	So for my dad's side of the family who came from Jamaica, their homeland would probably still be Jamaica, but the motherland is Great Britain, is the United Kingdom, because it was the motherland of the Empire, of the Commonwealth.
	There's a unity there, there's a kind of connection that is separate to their nationhood.
	I don't really know how else to explain it than motherland.
	Exactly.
	I think I was probably right, because it's like an imperial mindset.
	Right, right.
	Especially with Motherland.
	I mean, thinking of the Soviet Empire as well.
	Yes.
	Very similar for them.
	So, that's something that sort of pricked me, because it got me thinking about those words.
	And, well, People's motherland is never really erased, ever, as long as those people live.
	It stays with those people, even if the homeland or the nation is just gone, evaporated from history.
	And there are many of these that have come and gone throughout all of history, but one of them that really interests me, and I think is sort of fascinating, if nothing else, and a lot of people find it romantic, is Rhodesia, of all places.
	I'm going to be going there soon.
	I'm going to go to Zimbabwe and see what it's like.
	So I've got a bit of a weird obsession right now.
	So this is why it came to mind.
	And this image that we're looking at here is just an average street in what was then Salisbury, the capital of Rhodesia.
	And you don't think about these things until you see them.
	I mean, I'm sure you guys are looking, for example, at that no turn left, the lettering, the way it's done.
	This is the paint on the road, right?
	And the fact you're driving on the left.
	You really don't think about how British some things are until you see them in a foreign context?
	Yeah.
	It's like, okay.
	This could be Swindon.
	Yeah.
	Legitimately, that's what we thought when we looked at it.
	Like, that could be any part of Swindon.
	And that's what that was.
	This is the same place now in modern-day Zimbabwe, so you can see this building.
	It's not quite the right photo, but that's just because they don't have Google Street View properly.
	This is the best we can get.
	And you look around, and these old buildings are all still there.
	There's more trash.
	I mean, parts of the road are just broken.
	That paint, I don't know if you can even make out where some of the paint is now.
	It's gone.
	There's endless problems.
	I mean, people are familiar with the collapse that Zimbabwe undertook, so I don't think I need to go over that.
	But the point being that the Rhodesia, that place that existed in the previous picture, that's gone.
	That motherland is gone.
	Forever.
	Not coming back.
	It would be silly to even think so.
	But I found a couple of other places that fascinated me.
	Just going around on Google Street View.
	This here.
	You see this building?
	Guns and ammunition.
	I mean, clearly, this is from the Pioneer era.
	It's great, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	So, for people who don't know the history, the way Rhodesia was founded, or at least starting out of that place, right, is a bunch of pioneers from South Africa moved up, Wild West style, and literally set up even Wild West looking buildings, which is just weird to look at, if nothing else.
	I never even considered that, yes, they would have the aesthetic.
	It's nice that they kept the facade, though.
	Yeah, even though the shop underneath is clearly not in theme with, you know, the original building.
	Things are not going too well there.
	And also you'll notice if you just look down the road, the new facades that are put up.
	There's nothing like the original thing.
	Again, this could be, you know, I came from Kilburn today.
	We've got some lovely 1920s resorts like that.
	And next to them is exactly like the city furniture and electrics.
	We have the same problem in London.
	Exactly.
	But looking at that, I mean, that's just, that's two different civilizations.
	Yeah, it is.
	I mean, that thing on the left there, that's, that's a ruin.
	That's a Roman ruin.
	And you're a modern person from Rome.
	So you're an Italian, not a Roman.
	And you walk past it every day.
	And that's just, that's just unusual to think about in an Anglo-Saxon context.
	Rhodesia being a nation that was run by a white minority of Anglo-Saxons and a little bit of war trackers in there.
	But to see it in that sense is unusual, if nothing else, and sparks some interest.
	Well, it's like Iran, for example.
	I've got Persian friends who think back to their homeland, think back to their motherland of what it was pre-1970.
	Obviously, it will never exist ever again.
	It's now an Islamified caliphate, which is unrecognizable from the Western democracy that it used to be.
	But you can maintain that image of your country, can't you?
	I think we're getting to the same point now in England.
	I don't recognize the England that I grew up in.
	I'm not even 40 years old yet.
	So I think that in the next 40 years, the Generation Z or whatever are probably going to be thinking, I wish I'd have seen that England.
	Yeah, the one we have now will be probably gone.
	Which I'm going to get to later because you're absolutely on the money.
	That's where I'm taking this.
	You can see that there.
	And it's not just us who are outside Zimbabwe who have noticed there's differences.
	This is the Zimbabwe Independent, some news outlet.
	I mean, they do the same thing with themselves, where they just post like, hey, look what it used to be and now what it is.
	Yeah, not unusual.
	And as mentioned, people get quite romantic about Rhodesia in a way.
	These are just some pictures I found online that are strange to look at.
	Because like you say, the pre-Islamic Iran is very similar.
	It's just a different place.
	If you could go on holiday to the past, that would be just as fun as going to a foreign country now, wouldn't it?
	It really would.
	Because there's that phrase, what is it?
	The past is a foreign country.
	I've never found it more true than looking at a disappeared civilization.
	Is it still called Salisbury?
	It's now called Harare.
	Harare is Salisbury?
	Yeah.
	Okay, alright.
	I grew up near Salisbury in the UK, so there's a special kind of fascination there.
	This is Victoria Falls we're looking at here.
	This is just to make the point about the imagery and something else.
	But because I've gotten interested in this recently, I just want to mention, there are Rhodesian groups all over the world in the internet age.
	Because of course, the people who lived during the independence era and the fighting for Rhodesia, They left after Mugabe took over, but they're still alive.
	There's not many of them.
	And now they're all old enough to use the internet.
	I mean, they're all weird boomers, but they have on Facebook, I'm just showing here, a bunch of groups, Rhodesians worldwide, 63,000 members.
	Rhodesia in the UK there, people sharing pictures and video from their childhood to just reminisce about a place that is now gone, if nothing else.
	And, well, I think the West is going through something very similar.
	Can you name a country in the West that hasn't undergone, or is undergoing, this sort of massive civilizational change?
	I mean, the only one we could think of the other day was probably Iceland.
	If you think of Iceland now versus Iceland 50 years ago, yeah, there's a lot of continuity there.
	I can think of cities or towns, but not countries.
	Certainly.
	There may be some really small ones, like, I don't know, I might even still be wrong about that, but, you know, Luxembourg or even smaller, like Monaco, probably.
	You can only live there if you're multi-multi-millionaire.
	I suppose probably.
	That's a freak example, anyway.
	It's probably got more insane, I imagine.
	I mean, I've never been to Monaco, but I imagine it's probably got more and more insane rich people.
	Yeah, I think so, yeah.
	It's even more exclusive than it was a few decades ago, probably.
	But I bring this all up just to bring it back to the West, and you'll have to excuse me for being very micro on this issue, but I live here in Swindon, so I'm gonna take it.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I mean... So sorry.
	We're looking at Wiltshire Live here.
	Swindon and Salisbury named the running for worst places to live in England.
	Yeah, I can believe it.
	I don't know why they're being so mean to Salisbury.
	Not too bad.
	Who goes there but spies these days?
	Okay, fair point.
	But there is a tower, it is 160 meters full.
	Exactly.
	It's great.
	I feel like there are some places that seem more grim up north.
	Some of the satellite towns around Manchester or Leeds or whatever seem more grim than Swindon.
	Swindon is pretty bad and grim but it's not, I don't know, it's not too bad.
	But I think you're correct because I mean like Horden for example it's a video from Bond and Bankrupt recently that showed this place that's been abandoned pretty much for like 50 years because once the mining went the town's dead and it went forever.
	So truly derelict, right?
	But that's not really a surprise, like in 10 years it'll be the same as it is now.
	Yeah.
	Well, Swindon is more of a perfect example of a microcosm of the entire country, and what's changed it, how has it changed, and it's the same for most of the place.
	And speaking of Hordham, I spent some time in Hordham while I was training for the priesthood, and you're right, there are whole streets that are derelict, like boarded up and empty.
	However, the streets are still the same character, and the church is still at the centre of Hordham, this great big, what do you call it, the Miner's Cathedral.
	So it's still got that old feel to it, it's not been There's no globalization.
	There's no Starbucks.
	There's no... I don't think you even think there's a McDonald's in Horton, is there?
	The church hasn't spontaneously combusted yet.
	The church has a very sound priest.
	But that's the big difference.
	I'm thinking probably in the United States.
	I mean, there are probably parts, what's it called, the Rust Belt.
	There are probably huge parts of the Rust Belt that are basically the same as they were.
	And then there are huge parts which have just, the demographics changed and now the place has changed forever as well.
	And Swindon, that's it's story, really.
	I mean, there's all the signs that things are going wrong.
	This was the news a while back that the Marks and Spencers was finally closing down forever.
	Never a good sign when the higher quality stores are just gone forever.
	Not coming back.
	So that's... Did Sir Robert Buckland, the Tory MP, make any comment?
	Does he ever make comments about the general decline?
	I don't think he ever comes here unless it's election time.
	So, there's that.
	But that's... I remember sending this to my friend who lives in Reading and saying, yeah, the Marks and Spencers is gone.
	And he just wrote back, shit, Because it's actually a real bad sign when all the middle class stuff disappears, even if you don't use it, because that's the direction of travel.
	What's the opposite of gentrification?
	Dilapidation?
	Shitification?
	Because I've lived here for about three years now, and it's sort of always been that way.
	But everyone I know or spoken to that remembers years before that, they say it wasn't that long ago.
	When certainly the new town was sort of fine or thriving, you know, 2015 or 2010 or whatever, it was sort of unrecognizable even from then.
	Is that the case?
	Do you know?
	How long have you been here?
	I've been here three years.
	There are some people who have, I mean, we went to a meeting the other day and some old guy piped up and said, I've only been in Swindon since 1979.
	You newcomer!
	Basically a foreigner.
	But everyone I've spoken to tells me that there was once upon a time in which this place was better.
	And I've got some photographic evidence of that.
	But my point isn't just to talk about Swindon.
	This is a microcosm basically everywhere in the UK.
	And it seems to be the same story.
	So back to the situation of things getting worse.
	I mean, you can see just bad news.
	I mean, when you're reading the news that your lights are being dimmed to save money, that's not good.
	For who?
	I don't know why dimming the lights, I don't know how much that's really going to save.
	But the point being, if you sit down and read the news, a bunch of your lights are being turned off.
	Direction of travel.
	Dark and gloomy.
	It's decline isn't it?
	It's impossible to define it any other way than decline.
	And as you say, the council tax inexorably goes up and you get less for it.
	What is that if it's not decline?
	But how do you fix something like this?
	Because why would anyone middle class want to move to Swindon?
	Therefore, there won't open any more Marks & Spencers or Waitrose or... Not even that's a good thing.
	I'm against these globalization of copy and paste high streets.
	But you do need those attractions in order to attract certain demographics in order to build the place up to bring more money in.
	How do you fix this?
	I think one of the ways you don't fix it is by continuing the trends that have made you get to this point.
	And, well, it's the same trends everywhere.
	I'm just going to point to it.
	I mean, this was something.
	Men attempt to rob a teenager with a knife in a Swindon alley.
	Men.
	Men were here.
	Men did this.
	Okay, sure, sure, sure, sure.
	The men of Wiltshire.
	Yeah.
	They look like Wiltshire lads, don't they?
	Yeah, there's average men.
	The place where this happened, I was just going to get back to it in a minute, you might recognize some of the problem.
	There's also just the general problem that we have here with the same everywhere else.
	Foreign sex criminal gets off light because that's what you want to read in your news.
	Is there a big Pakistani Muslim demographic in Swindon?
	Uh, overwhelmingly Bangladeshi rather than Pakistani, but the foreign groups here who do end up going to, well, the local court for sexual assault in this case.
	Um, this dude got a suspended sentence of 18 months and had to pay, what was it, like 180 quid?
	The person he sexually assaulted?
	They have needs, don't you know?
	That's justice.
	That's, again, bad news.
	Like, things aren't going well when that happens and the media doesn't kick up a stink instead of it's like, oh, that's normal.
	And it goes on.
	I mean, this is another story.
	Police update on a mass brawl outside Swindon Costa Coffee.
	Ah yes, that mass brawl that we all took part in.
	The lads in the office, we went down and we were the cause of it, I'm sure.
	No.
	I mean, there were never any mass brawls.
	Oh, this is from this week?
	Yeah.
	I don't know if you recognize this being the high street.
	The M&S that's closed is just around the corner.
	I mean, I walked down the high street.
	I saw a couple of Greggs.
	That was about it.
	I had a Polski Sklep.
	You'll have to forgive me.
	Maybe again.
	This is my bigotry showing, but in case you're wondering, just around the corner in a couple of directions, there's two hotels, at least three actually, which are full of migrants.
	Ah, I see.
	Okay.
	That's a coincidence.
	Is that direction of travel good?
	Is that going to make more M&S's open?
	Is that going to bring in more council tax so we can put the lights back on?
	No.
	It'll bring in more gang crime, more assaults.
	Yeah.
	More rape.
	I mean, this instance, I mean, this is, as you can see, last year here on this one, 2022, but it's not stopped.
	We've lived here through this period.
	We know the faces of these people at this point.
	Well that Holiday Inn Express, and there's another hotel right next door to it.
	The Ibis.
	You guys have been very generous calling these hotels... Yeah, they're in hotels!
	When they were both requisitioned, I suppose, by the state, by the Home Office or whoever, and normal people weren't allowed to...
	Go there anymore, and they were just filled out with migrants.
	Literally one day, it just happened one day, right?
	100% men.
	Oh yeah, 100% men, literally.
	So I walked past it a couple of times a day, most days.
	And yeah, never ever seen a single woman or child, not one, or a man over about 25 or 30.
	And from that point onwards, Probably twice a week there's just police cars outside or sometimes a fire engine.
	They're more or less constant issues.
	That's the truth.
	That's the real reality of it.
	I'm not sure, again, Sir Robert Buckland has made any real comment.
	I've not seen him ever make any sort of comment, certainly not anything negative about it.
	I think he advocates for more safe and legal routes, if anything.
	Well, I did ask him about this, actually, in case you're interested.
	He told me to shut up.
	Did he really?
	Yeah.
	I used to be in the conservative group chat in this area, and they kicked me out for what I'm about to show you, which is, by poor coincidence, under the same time period, this thing has fell off a cliff.
	You can see here, it went from being about 2% of Swindon being foreign to 1 in 5, 20%.
	So you can see that graph.
	There's basically a flat line until something happens in the 1990s, and then it just goes through the roof.
	And if you run the stats and just do the math, here's a graph.
	By 2060 here, so that will be in 36 years, half of Swindon, this nowhere town, will be foreign.
	Goodness me.
	Kuwaiti levels of migrant workers will just be how this place operates.
	I mean, I'll be 62 by then.
	That's assuming things remain the same, right?
	We're about to have a Labour government and no doubt a Labour politician in Swindon.
	Yeah, I can't see things getting better or maintaining as they are.
	Hey, Heidi Alexander, the Labour candidate, refuses to talk about it, it seems.
	Really?
	Basically refuses to ever mention migration.
	But every single town looking like this.
	Okay, yeah, I'm just gonna say, I really think that the mass importation of people who don't shop at M&S might be the reason why M&S is closing down, if nothing else.
	Might be the reason, I mean, we've gone through the differences in ethnic groups on who gets, or takes, state benefits.
	For example, economic activity.
	And the worst groups in the United Kingdom for this are, what is it, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, and black, and then you get...
	What is it?
	White British in the middle.
	And at the bottom, the people who make the most economic activity are Indians and Chinese.
	The Chinese are unbelievably productive.
	So, yeah, as the country becomes more Bangladeshi, funnily enough, there's more Gaza flags and more things closing down.
	Why are we importing people who hate our country, hate our way of life, and hate Swindon?
	Yeah.
	And in the hotels, I mean, we've got Afghans, overwhelmingly.
	It's like, yes, I, um, went there once.
	I don't want that here.
	I just, I like not being raped.
	It's just a problem that they have that I don't want, if nothing else.
	And, um, yeah, I mean, we're getting vibrant new food options though.
	This story broke the other day.
	Don't know if you've seen this.
	I saw that, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Swindon Halal Butchers shut due to rat infestation.
	And I remember when this opened and we were like, there's a Kenyan Halal Butchers.
	They're like, it's not an infestation, this is the menu.
	But I was just asking, I remember at the time, who asked for this?
	I don't know who was going in there to buy food anyway.
	It was a really weird business proposal.
	And then, yeah, no, it turns out it's full of rat droppings.
	Raw meat sitting on the floor.
	They've been forced to pay three and a half grand to the council for just being disgusting, this particular outlet here.
	Which, I'll be honest, I mean, literally I saw it and then xenophobically went, nope, not going in, and I'm glad I made the right option there.
	And that's basically my point, is that if you change the demographics of a place, because what happened to Rhodesia?
	What happened in Rhodesia is that the black majority ended up taking over there, and the white minority were pushed out, forcibly, by Mugabe.
	It was a policy to get rid of them.
	And well, as a result, the demographics changed, and now it is what it is.
	That's the situation.
	There could be some policy changes, but I think demographics really do impact the culture.
	And with Swindon importing, what, up to 20% now of foreign-born, and it's going to go to 50%.
	Yeah, I can't help but notice the coincidence.
	That's just a policy change from the get-go.
	Ban halal.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there's nothing not barbaric about it.
	And if you ever want to see the differences between European zig-zag of slaughter and then halal slaughter, it's, is the cow knocked out or not?
	Which, Yeah.
	Whatever.
	I just got a whole rant about Halal.
	But my whole point being, this isn't the case.
	It doesn't have to be like this.
	It never was.
	So here's Swindon.
	Me and Rory just went around taking pictures and found old ones.
	This is the train station back in ye olde days.
	This is the same place now.
	Just look at that building.
	It's just crap.
	It's a civilizational change.
	I mean, I want to visit this civilization.
	I want to go and see it.
	I want to buy a plane ticket, but it's not there.
	And that building, big as it is, is empty and derelict, right?
	You see all those brown windows.
	That's boarded up windows.
	Yeah.
	I'm pretty sure that that whole building stands empty.
	Sad.
	But then you go back to the past.
	I mean, this is the, I don't know if you've seen this, but there's a field.
	That has nothing in it.
	Once upon a time, it was owned by the Great Western Railway.
	And this is what they did with it.
	You can see the water features, the fountains, the flowers.
	And now it's nothing.
	Okay.
	Change and decay.
	And this is the main street.
	We used to have a tram service.
	But again, like just different civilization, different motherland.
	Different values.
	Like if I lived in this, I think this is 1920.
	In this place, and then had left it, and then was joining a Facebook group to post about what Swindon was like one day, and what the roadies are.
	Yeah, I mean, they've got a point.
	This is the peak of civilization, though.
	It has been downhill since World War I. This is the problem.
	Absolutely.
	We'll never have anything like that again.
	But with Swindon, it's so fast as well.
	I mean, this picture here, I think this is from, like, the 80s or 90s.
	Not even that long ago.
	And just look at that versus what you see on the modern high street, and it's like, okay.
	Yep.
	Change comes at you fast, if nothing else.
	But anyway, why did I go through all that?
	Well, because...
	The UK's really weird right now, and I really do think they're going to end up destroying their own motherland by the end of this.
	So for people listening, we're currently looking at a BBC News post celebrating Cockney culture could help fight prejudice.
	And there's a lady on the right in traditional Cockney dress, and the lady on the left with a costume.
	The one on the right is a pearly queen, right?
	And the one on the left is imitating a pearly queen with a niqab on.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it just isn't right if you want to dress as the Cockneys did.
	Is that really insane to say?
	Is that insane to point out?
	It's bizarre.
	It just doesn't make sense.
	I haven't read the article because I don't read the BBC, but I'm assuming this is not prejudice against Cockneys that they're talking about.
	Yeah, it's instead how to make modern London more inclusive.
	So less cockney.
	Ah, right.
	I'm not sure this actually is a coherent mix of cultures.
	That is incoherent to even look at.
	It's just insane.
	And on the other side, there is just another path.
	And this story, in my mind, of where we could have gone instead and still can, Is the Japanese one, and I know people talk about it a lot, but it's true.
	So this is a Shinto shrine in Japan, and this Muslim guy went up and desecrated it because he's, well, religiously intolerant.
	He can't accept that there is another religion other than Islam.
	And the Japanese being interviewed here were just like, ah yes, we must get rid of him.
	He must go.
	Yeah, simple as.
	That's not hard.
	But we'd be like, oh, how can we make him feel more included?
	He clearly doesn't feel integrated into our society.
	It's not diverse enough.
	There are no Muslim objects and artifacts around to make him feel at home.
	It's like, well, duh, it's a Shinto shrine.
	That's not what you should do.
	Instead, you should preserve your motherland.
	And the Japanese still have one that's coherent to 50 years ago.
	We are bending over backward to incorporate the backward.
	Yeah, and if you don't, your motherland is just gone.
	It's gone forever.
	So, that's all I really wanted to get out.
	This is really just a feeling I've had.
	I also use the Japanese as an example all the time, because at least they know what their culture is, right?
	And they're proud of their culture, they defend it, they protect it, and they celebrate it.
	You know, you and I could go to Japan tomorrow, and we could live there for the next hundred years, we would never be considered Japanese.
	We would be expected to take on board their culture and integrate into their society.
	They wouldn't say, how can we make this more British so these people feel at home?
	And that's why we've got things upside down here, because we are doing the exact opposite.
	We're saying, not only we're saying let's not protect British culture, we're saying there's no such thing as British culture.
	And if you actually tried to lower the standards of Japan while living there, the response would be, as was in response to this chap here, bye.
	Get out!
	The right situation is to deport people who are making the place worse.
	Was he deported?
	Engaging in this.
	I don't know as to what happened to him in the end, but that conversation on TV is not the conversation you see in this country.
	No.
	Because the way the Japanese do it is actually the norm for pretty much all of human history.
	It's only the way we're doing it now, which is the weird, perverted, new, inverted way.
	It's not...
	The way the Japanese are the normal ones here.
	Entirely.
	So anyway, that's really just a feeling I've had looking at Rhodesia because I've been researching and then looking back where I live and realizing, ah, yeah, this could really happen here literally within a few decades.
	It will be gone forever if it continues.
	And in which case, yeah, maybe...
	This really needs to be taken seriously.
	If you care about it.
	And if you don't, we'll be gone forever.
	And this is the route at which you could actually save it.
	Which is just speaking frankly.
	That's all it takes.
	One thing that's popped into my mind.
	Do you remember a few years ago now?
	Emily Thornberry.
	Labour's Emily Thornberry.
	Lovely woman.
	Yeah.
	Superb individual.
	She had an issue with somebody just flying a St.
	George's flag, didn't they?
	Oh yeah.
	She had a problem.
	That's the thin end of the wedge.
	Right there.
	If you're called out for even the smallest amount of patriotism or nationalism, that's the thin end of the wedge.
	It starts there and it ends with Rhodesia.
	And well, it's up to everyone, I think, in their day-to-day lives to push back on it however you can, if and when you can.
	It's not just up to the odd brave person like you, or leave it to someone like Nigel Farage to lead the charge.
	It's up to all of us.
	I don't think it's possible at this point.
	I think the country is doomed.
	English culture isn't one that is overt, right?
	We are understated.
	It's not a land where people are overtly proud or patriotic.
	It's not like the Americans.
	It's just a different culture.
	The English will never ever stand up for the English they will never ever stand up for and the ones that do are on the fringe and they get ostracized as the far right or even the hard left at this point.
	I don't think the average common folk in this country is old enough to stand up for this country.
	I would say you may well, or you probably are right at the moment, it doesn't always have to be the way.
	If you look back at, say, the 50s or something, or look at some of the earlier celebrations for the Queen, some of the earlier jubilees in the 70s and the street parties and things, it didn't always used to be as bad as it is now.
	It doesn't have to remain that way.
	I mean, I think what you're saying is true at the moment, but the Overton window can move, the conversation can move.
	At the moment, we are still the majority.
	It just takes a change in outlook.
	But where you are, absolutely spot on.
	So it's just that it's the people, it's the common folk that are going to change this.
	The politicians will not change this.
	They are the enemy.
	That's, that's what I'm getting at really.
	I think the synthesis here is that it's a decision and that decision is either taken to be like the Japanese, which you see just the average Japanese person is like, no, no, no, no, no, we don't do that yet.
	If that's the actual response of every English person in their day to day lives, then that's the choice.
	That's the decision we make.
	But if we don't do that, um, well enjoy the decline.
	I mean, I think we've already come to the conclusion that we miss a country that we never knew.
	So I don't know if it's possible to bring that back.
	At this point we could probably protect what we have now, but I don't even think what we have now is good enough.
	I get you entirely.
	I remember, I was a small kid in the 80s and a teenager in the 90s, and I remember, you know, Britain before Blair, and I remember in the late 90s, for the first time ever, you would start to see a change just in the high street, just in your day-to-day life.
	You'd start to see, started more with, it seemed, more like Eastern Europeans.
	Suddenly there was lots of, say, Romanian builders or something.
	I remember before that, I remember before that, when I went to school, in primary school and secondary school, there was like, One Asian boy, one black boy.
	I remember that.
	We had an Ali, a Mohammed, and a Polish girl who I dated.
	And me, of course.
	It's not that long ago.
	I'm in my early 40s and there's plenty, millions of people, obviously, much older than me, that do remember the 50s, the 60s, the 70s.
	Yeah, they're not all gone yet.
	But we've been indoctrinated for 50 years that monoculture is a bad thing, that Englishness is a bad thing, Britishness even at this point is a bad thing.
	How do we get past that, break down that mentality, that indoctrination that's been going on for so long?
	I mean, that's a genuine question.
	Well, it's an ongoing battle, isn't it?
	And I think places like Lotus Eaters or maybe New Culture Forum, well, there's a number of people trying, right?
	Even GB News, to some extent, you know, trying to do something like that.
	Yeah.
	I like to think, I hope the battle isn't lost, that it isn't doomed.
	I hold out hope.
	If you give up all hope, then all truly is lost.
	Or maybe we accelerate the decline to build something better from the ashes.
	Okay, Michael, go for it.
	Anyway, that's far too long.
	Don't ever call me Michael Kirby!
	Let's move on.
	Right, so we'll go to the... Let's go to the puby blockers, I suppose.
	This is outstanding.
	The fact that we're... The pendulum is shifting, so let's go to some hope for a change, yeah.
	The Equality Act is being discussed by Suella Braveman, of course the Home Sec that got fired for being interested in protecting the borders.
	Discussing the idea that should we prescribe sex in law?
	Now I think it's an important conversation.
	It's a good question to be asked.
	I don't agree because I think the Equality Act should be scrapped entirely.
	I think having a positive law that defines minority groups in order to protect them is back to front.
	But the fact that she's now saying, could we do this?
	Because this is the other option.
	Do we flood the Equality Act with everything in order to render it effectively useless?
	What, to make haters of a crime?
	Right.
	Finally, finally lads!
	Adam, I'm six foot five.
	It is difficult getting through some doors.
	Ah, but us dwarfs, we need, we need reparations.
	Because it's not, I think the Equality Act is 2010.
	So that come, have come in at the very beginning of Cameron.
	I'm not sure.
	Anyway, point is, it's not that old.
	It's not that long ago.
	It's not exactly the Constitution, is it?
	Right, yeah.
	It's some crap made up a few years ago.
	You know, all these things like the Supreme Court or devolution.
	It's not that long ago.
	No.
	Equality Act 2010, yeah, we can repeal that and get rid of that if we wanted to, if there was the political will.
	Yeah, I don't think there's the political will, but while we have that political will to make a change to it, should we adopt that change and define, in effect, in law, what is a woman?
	Just very quickly to say, it is a policy for Reform UK, very Reform.
	Is it?
	Yeah, to get rid of, to repeal the Equalities Act, yeah.
	But no, because we live in a country where we've always had common law, right?
	And the English people have been able to do whatever they please, as long as they're not harming anyone else.
	And if a conflict comes into play, then the judiciary creates the law.
	But now we live in the opposite way around.
	We have positive law, where the central authority, the government, defines what we are allowed to do, rather than, you know, we've flipped everything around into an American system.
	So my point is, while we have that system, let's abuse it.
	Let's destroy it from within.
	And I think the Equality Act is a good example, because All these minority groups are using the Equality Act as a weapon when it was supposed to be there to defend them.
	So they are using it to discriminate when it was supposed to prevent people from discriminating.
	So let's do the same.
	Let's say, okay, well, let's define what a woman is.
	Let's define what sex means.
	And then the trans lobby, the LGBT group, and all the Chinese can no longer discriminate against us for being normal.
	I love the idea.
	Because you remember when Elon Musk took over Twitter and he issued a dictum saying the word cis was actually a slur against non-trans people?
	Sitting there literally being like, no, we're literally going to apply the laws to you.
	You're going to end up in jail for what you've done.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I mean, it's not a tough sell, I'll be honest.
	Well, moving on, in the same conversation though, because the whole tranny movement seems to be taking over the headlines at the moment, and I do think the pendulum is swiftly swinging back, but there's a conversation about banning puberty blockers, and I think this could not have come soon enough.
	Children, teenagers, I can't think of a single context where that would be desirable.
	castration for years now.
	We know that it's been detrimental to their health, but questions are finally being asked about, is it appropriate for a developing person to block their hormones?
	I mean, I can't think of a single context where that's, would be desirable.
	Uh, you could do it to a rapist.
	So if someone, not a child, not a child rapist, uh, Well, yeah, for a child.
	Yeah, you might not find one of them.
	Yeah, I can't honestly think of any reason why it would exist.
	It seems purely demonic.
	Why does it even exist?
	Why is it a thing?
	Well, you hit the nail on the head there.
	It's demonic.
	Experimental off-label drugs have been given to kids.
	Why have we approved that as a society?
	Like I brought up the rapist thing because I'm pretty sure in a few states this is what they did to their, well, criminals.
	It's the exact same drug.
	Chemical castration.
	The same drug that they give to rapists.
	Now they're giving it to children in this country.
	At least they're saying, let's stop it, let's block it, because it may have a detrimental impact.
	Someone needs to go to jail though.
	I was just going to say that.
	I was just going to say that.
	People should be named and shamed and brought to account.
	The individual peoples, because that's how the world goes round, right?
	You think there's these giant monoliths, these giant institutions.
	It all boils down to human beings sitting around boardrooms and sitting around tables, making decisions and the stroke of a pen and all that sort of thing.
	There are individual peoples who are responsible for this stuff.
	So doctors who have sworn to do no harm are chemically castrating children.
	And right here we have the name of the drug, Lupron, the same drug that is used to chemically castrate sex offenders.
	The side effects can be brutal.
	How could you go through med school, train up in order to heal and help people, and then suddenly do this?
	You're absolutely right.
	They need to be prosecuted.
	It's no longer good enough to just ban their use.
	We need to prosecute people who have done it.
	And the same with, well, anything that's Harming, so abortion, end of life, assisted suicide, anyone, any medical practitioner that is harming or killing human beings needs to be prosecuted.
	That's how we change the culture.
	How is it not already a crime?
	Because if I gave you medical advice that seriously damaged you, I'm pretty sure you could sue me, right?
	I'd end up in jail if I accidentally gave you, or did purposely give you, bad medical advice that left you, well, infertile.
	So whoever did this, whoever came to that NHS clinic, it was like, oh yeah, it's fine.
	Whoever that person is, yeah, prison.
	Well, that's going to happen because this has been going on since the whistleblower, this is not the one I was looking for, but the whistleblower first raised this in 2004.
	So we've had 20 years of this going on.
	So now we have a case of The transitioners.
	So people who transitioned as a teenager, they're now in adulthood, they're realizing they made a mistake, they're barren, they cannot reproduce, they can't even have a normal, healthy relationship.
	They are going to start suing these medical practitioners.
	I think there's a couple of layers to this.
	One, there's the sort of insane, I would call them insane doctors, who have abandoned their oath to help people.
	Then there's the other layer of, you would also then need, I suppose the CPS, the Crown Prosecution Service, to actually do anything about it, right?
	In order for people to be held accountable, doctors, you would need the state, the judiciary system, the police, the CPS, to actually do it.
	And they've also been captured, right?
	So there's the original thing, the original problem, the original perversion of mind, if nothing else, and then there's the gears of justice.
	Yeah.
	Both have been in a bad place.
	Absolutely.
	We saw this with Kira Bell.
	So she's one of the, or, or he or she is one of the most famous, uh, de-transitioners, uh, that came out and said, look, you guys rushed me onto hormones.
	And pretty much every child that went through the Tavistock clinic was pushed through onto either drugs or surgery.
	None of them were given purely just therapy or any kind of therapeutic help.
	And so I think the number of people, not just in this country, but especially in America is going to rise over the next few years.
	Are you transitioning?
	I think, I hope that in the future the Tavistock Clinic will be shorthand for just a completely insane thing.
	Just like a truly grotesque thing that happened once, you know?
	But it's not just the clinic, it's the movement, isn't it?
	All these people that support the Trani movement, are they supporting the people that say, actually, I wasn't in the wrong body, I made a mistake?
	And the detransitioners are the ones that are being ostracized and pushed out of society because they are undermining the narrative of the Trani movement.
	I'm just looking here for names, to be honest.
	So in 2014, Dr. Polly... How do you say that?
	Carmichael.
	Carmichael, the head of GIDS before Cass reviewed Autism Disclosure, went on the CBBC, so a children's state-run TV show, to tell everyone saying that puberty blockers... The good thing is, if you stop the injections, it's like pressing the start on the body develops on as if you hadn't started.
	It's nonsense.
	It doesn't pause anything.
	It's detrimental.
	I've never heard of...
	Sure, I guess.
	John's saying he's got a clip of this person doing it.
	But they say here that they go on to fail to mention, though obviously that's bollocks, and then fails to mention that if you take too much you end up sterilized.
	Which, um... Yeah, I mean that sort of seems like prison to me.
	Yeah, at least.
	At least.
	I really don't think I'm being mental here in pointing out that maybe if you give medical advice that is that horrifically wrong, is that not prison?
	It should be.
	Especially, again, sorry, this isn't an adult.
	Outlet?
	This is CBBC.
	Children's BBC.
	Should we play this?
	So this is the Doctor, apparently.
	Should we give this lessons?
	Yeah.
	Dr. Polly knows all about it.
	I'm sure she does.
	The blocker is an injection that someone has every month, which pauses the body and stops it from carrying on to grow up into a man or a woman.
	And the idea of the blocker is that if we can take away that worry about your body doing something that you don't want it to, And it gives you and us more time and space to be really thinking about what's going to be best for you now, but also in the future.
	And the good thing about it is that if you stop the injections, it's like pressing a start button and the body just carries on developing as it would if you hadn't taken the injection.
	Liar.
	That is a lie.
	Liar.
	That's evil.
	That's the face of evil.
	We're talking about puberty.
	Of course your body's going to do stuff you don't want it to do.
	That's the point of puberty.
	To give that advice on a children's television program was just wrong.
	Again, it goes further than that.
	So the producers, whoever put that on, they also should be held accountable.
	Yes.
	Every single person that's helped push this onto young minds and corrupted them, it's essentially, well, it's the same as the movement to break down the family.
	Because every single kid that's been through this process is no longer able to start a family.
	Perhaps that's the ultimate goal, isn't it?
	Perhaps, is that?
	I just love the idea of sitting down and being like, what did you do with your day?
	I ruined some people's lives.
	Great, great, yeah.
	Really contributed to society.
	Fantastic.
	In the most, like, cynical, disgusting way possible as well, right?
	Crimes against children are the worst, surely.
	So these are being banned now.
	Is that the story?
	That's the story.
	They're being banned in the UK, finally, after 20 years after the whistleblower said these are harmful.
	But off with their heads.
	Let's have a proper revolution, like the French.
	You know, I can only really muster a slow, ironic hand clap, though.
	It's like, yeah, well done.
	But we have to celebrate the small wins, don't we?
	I mean, I'll take it.
	I'm not saying don't do it, but you know, like, Yeah, great.
	Thanks for nothing, almost.
	We're being slapped around left, right and centre.
	Any kind of sign of hope, I'm clutching onto.
	Yeah, right.
	Yes, yeah.
	And then, onto Bo-related news.
	Oh, right.
	Nigel Farage, his return will be an extinction-level event for the Tories!
	All hail the saviour!
	It's funny, I thought... He's trending right now as well.
	Carl and Conor seem to be insisting that he's going to join the Tories and lead them to... Is that not what's happening?
	Is that not what this is about?
	We don't know what's happening because it's all speculation because Nigel Farage will never comment on his political career because he will only ever enter politics again if it suits his best interests.
	This is the definition of a career politician, and for some reason everyone on the right seems to hold him up on a pedestal.
	We saw what happened in 2019, right, when the Brexit Party was prepared to wipe out the Tories properly, to get Brexit done properly, and to break down the establishment for once and for all.
	And what did he do?
	Buckled, stood all of us, myself included, down so that he'd get a nice cushy seat in the House of Lords.
	And then what happens, as politicians do?
	Boris Johnson backstabbed him, and he didn't get his seat in the Lords, and he's gutted for it.
	So he took a job in television, getting paid lots of money at GB News.
	There's no way on earth he's going to announce that he's entering back into politics unless it's better off for him than it is to be on TV.
	How much is he getting paid on TV?
	A lot.
	Good lord, I don't know what I'm going to say.
	Do you have something to say?
	Well, unfortunately, I am bound a little bit.
	By the fact that he's the honorary president of my party.
	What does that mean?
	It's like keeping a foot in, right?
	So what I'll say then, is just to explain myself, is that Reform UK don't have a whip system, but they do ask you to not overtly undermine the senior leadership.
	Which is fair enough for party politics.
	That doesn't sit comfortably with me, but I've sort of got to go by that because otherwise it would be pure anarchy.
	That's what party politics is.
	It is a dirty game.
	You can't get involved in party politics and not get a little bit dirty.
	Although I agree with what that decision that was made in 2019 was extremely disappointing, shall I say, to put it mildly.
	It was the one shot we had.
	I don't think we'll get a shot like that again.
	To break up this two-party state that we're in.
	Have they reformed polling at about 14% and growing at the moment?
	Last election was similar and they didn't manage to get 6%.
	It's abysmal.
	Well, it's first past the post.
	UKIP got a million votes one time, didn't they?
	And didn't get a single seat.
	Which is problematic.
	I mean, yeah, everyone wants PR.
	Not everyone, sorry.
	Not the party in power.
	The party in power never wants PR.
	The Tories don't want PR.
	But once Labour get in, they won't want PR either.
	This is the problem.
	The party that wins never wants to change the system that enabled them to win.
	Do you remember when there was the Clegg-Cameron coalition?
	And Cameron did a full national referendum on it.
	Yes, yes.
	And they won it.
	I.e.
	first-past-the-post won, PR lost.
	That's true.
	So that did happen, which was, that was also very, very disappointing, to put it mildly.
	Because the Lib Dems, obviously, they've won it full-time, still do.
	Everyone other than the ruling party.
	Are they still there?
	Yeah, they've got, yeah, yeah.
	Bless them.
	I think what have they got?
	30 odd or 40 odd MPs?
	I actually don't know.
	I probably should know how many they've got.
	Well, you guys have an MP now, don't you?
	Yeah, one whole MP!
	Yeah, same as the Greens.
	On the same level with the Greens.
	And reclaim until recently.
	Yeah, do you know what's happening?
	Bridgen left though, didn't he?
	He did, yeah, yeah.
	I won't go into that.
	No?
	Why?
	You bound by...?
	No, I'm not bound by anything, I just...
	I think the problem with politics is there are too many egos.
	And that's across the board.
	People let their egos get in the way of the principles.
	And it's sometimes party comes first, sometimes self comes first, but country very rarely comes first.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I like Bridgman.
	We've had him on a couple of times.
	Hopefully we'll have him back.
	I think last I heard he planned to run as an independent.
	Yeah.
	He's a nice guy, but he may well win because he's popular in his constituency.
	Was he fighting this hard against the COVID measures while he was still in the main party that was putting them in place?
	Would be my question.
	Or is he fighting hard enough because it helps him in his profile?
	Call me cynical and jaded, but... No, I like cynical.
	It's a fair question.
	They're all playing the same bloody game.
	Yeah.
	It's very easy once you've been kicked out to become the Covid guy, because that's the only thing you have left to hang on to.
	I think we'll see a similar thing with Leanderson, he'll become the get my country back guy, but he didn't cross over to reform, he got booted out essentially by the Tories, which is why we don't see any other Tories following him across, because they only ever look out for their own interests, or even the good ones, or the least bad ones.
	I liked Zoella Breverman as soon as she was out of government, suddenly she was sort of ultra Anti-immigration.
	One day ago, when you were the Home Secretary, you didn't seem to be trying all that hard.
	Which is why you actually cannot change things from within.
	And all these people that say, we've got to play the game, we've got to be careful what we say, who we invite, all this kind of stuff, because we don't want to upset the rocket, you know, rock the cart.
	No, it doesn't work like that, because the moment you are in, you are bound by the same rubbish that they're bound by, otherwise you fall out of it straight away.
	So you've got to attack them from without.
	Unless the party leadership, unless there is a political will there, you know, if the leadership of a given party are for certain policies in the first place, then it would be something different.
	But, you know, but whilst in the Uniparty, Labour and Tory, whilst the overarching policies are what they are, then you're correct.
	Down with politics and down with politicians, except for your good self.
	Well on that note, let's move on I suppose, and we're not going to politicians are we?
	Rather evil people instead.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well I thought I would talk about the absolute state of hope not hate.
	Because they've recently released their annual report, The State of Hate.
	So for people who don't know them, I think we should do a nice introduction, you know, roll out the trumpets.
	Hello, this is a group called Hope Not Hate.
	They're run by communists and they spend all their time trying to smear people they don't like on the right, at the same time claiming that they're just anti-extremism.
	We're just here to fight extremism.
	Only one kind, which is the one we've decided is extremist, which includes literally millions and millions of people's opinions.
	So, we're on this list for example.
	And the reason this is important is because in the past, thankfully now the influence I think seems to be disappearing, but in the past for sure, they kept getting invited into the government to give evidence on who should be literally banned And I mean banned as like, almost put on the terrorist list kind of ban.
	That's insane.
	And this, I think they're partly responsible for the bad man, Tommy Robinson's ban for quite a lot of stuff.
	Right.
	So, with the presumably Labour government coming in, they might end up shooting back up in importance.
	But they do this thing every year, where they write this piece of crap, which is their state of hate, in which they're like, yes, look at the hate in the UK, it is growing, give us money.
	Pessimism, decline, there's a lot of that, but the rising radical right haven't seen much of that.
	Where are they?
	Literally, what march are they on?
	I'd like to see it!
	Come on guys, Nick Lowes and Hope Not Hate, they're simply anti-racists.
	That's all they are, there's no more to it than that.
	There's definitely no nexus between them and the intelligence services and the government.
	Certainly not.
	They're merely anti-racists, which can only be a good thing.
	Can't it?
	They are the ones that were putting a lot of pressure on advertisers when GB News launched, pretty much crippled the company a lot of times.
	I wrote an article once about Enoch Powell being right, which he was, and Hope Not Hate jumped on that bandwagon and lost GB News an advertising deal.
	And so they weren't very pleased with that.
	So they're actually destroying things and organisations and people's lives.
	I thought they were merely anti-racism.
	I thought they were just doing the good work of anti-racism.
	It's Hate Not Hope.
	But there is a crossover, there's loads of these types of organisations, like the Running Me Trust or something, or there's an organisation called Red Flare, the truly communist doxxing organisation it seems to be, they just work with people like Hope Not Hate.
	And yeah, I mean, we've been, I was personally mentioning it last year or the year before.
	Oh goodness, really?
	Very, very small.
	I wrote one article that called for some sort of alien and sedition act and mass re-migration.
	I was outed by name, but Cole's been in it every year now.
	Is he?
	Yeah.
	And so, yeah, it was in it this year.
	There was a whole page, the Lotus Eaters got a mention.
	One of the reasons why I wanted to bring it up, one of the angles, one of my takes on it, is that, there you go, Lotus Eaters.
	And it's that it's just not scary anymore, if it ever was.
	It's sort of profoundly unscary.
	They're supposed to be sort of, you know, revealing the evil racists in our society.
	I love that.
	There's a slur there that Benjamin wouldn't even rape Jess Phillips.
	Are they saying that he should?
	I don't know what they're saying.
	Once upon a time, they were advising the government Who should be destroyed and these days they just kind of seem fundamentally unserious.
	Yeah.
	So I mean that is good news in a sense.
	Someone said on Twitter that a lot of it seems to be because I didn't read the whole thing.
	I read some some of the person because it's quite long.
	It's quite a long document and seems to be copied and pasted from last year and it seems like a lot of their quote-unquote research is flimsy.
	Right.
	The guy in charge of it is a literal communist.
	So we did some digging a while back.
	Nick Lowles?
	It's not Nick Lowles, so he's the guy... He's the CEO, is he not?
	He's the CEO indeed.
	And there is a head of research whose name escapes me.
	I've got a few names, just real quick to say.
	Because, you know, they like to name people and dox people and stuff.
	So, you know, like Joe Pesci in Casino, we'll watch him right back.
	You're gonna watch us?
	We'll watch you, are you kidding me?
	Georgina Lamming?
	Emily Lansdale, Molly Ososki, Owen Jones is involved, David Lammy is involved, Amanda Bowman, Elliot Cohen, it goes on, Jenna Levine, someone from Running Me Trust, David Lawrence, Rebecca Flyer, Joe Mulhall.
	I mean, these names are out there, aren't they?
	They have Twitter accounts and stuff.
	They're all friends of each other.
	Yeah, I mean, it's just...
	Joe Mulhall is the director of research.
	Just label anyone who doesn't agree with him as a fascist.
	They love the lists though, don't they?
	These anti-fascists, ironically.
	I remember when Lawrence Fox was on with Dan Worden and then dared to say they wouldn't have sex with a woman and all of a sudden, because I remember seeing that pop up in my timeline.
	This is how you ended up losing your position at GB.
	And I noticed that all of the people who were talking about it were using the exact same line and all definitely were friends.
	And this is how it works, right?
	This is a good example of those people all know each other.
	And it's a situation where if I ran GB News, I would look at that and go, right, this is clearly an orchestrated attack by a group of people who fundamentally hate us.
	Ignored.
	Well, exactly.
	Don't pander to them.
	Don't feed the crocodile.
	Carol Vorderman put out the list and a link to Ofcom saying complain with this link.
	And then suddenly 8,000 of her followers complained that it became the most complained about episode of TV of last year.
	But therefore you use that.
	You say, yeah, look, we are the most complained about because we are controversial.
	We support free.
	You don't say actually your sect, your sect, your sect.
	That is who's winning there.
	Well, Carol Vorderman and all her trolls.
	Fundamentally, it was a choice because this is the anti-racism types, the Southern Poverty Law Center, et cetera.
	What can they actually do?
	Well, they do this.
	They whine.
	They whine and whine and whine about people they don't like.
	The actual destroying of your own organization is a decision that your organization makes.
	And the people.
	So Carol Vorderman is a good example.
	She said on How I Got News for You, I would not shag Lawrence Fox, saying exactly the same thing that she's discarded at him for saying.
	The hypocrisy is blatant.
	As if she wouldn't anyway.
	But the thing is, it's sort of, it's not, I find it anyway, sort of not scary.
	It's almost like a badge of honor, if anything.
	And the Streisand effect.
	Oh, well, you're going to mention some people I might not have heard of.
	Well, I'm going to go follow them now.
	You know, it's like I think quite literally beneath contempt.
	I don't even hold them with contempt.
	It's like something like if you've got an ingrown toenail or a boil or like slime mould.
	You don't have contempt for slime mould.
	You're just grossed out by it and think about how to get rid of it and clean it up.
	That's what I feel.
	That's how I feel about Hope Not Hate.
	Well, you were mentioning there's another one.
	They had a few pages on reform.
	Oh, no doubt.
	Reform dare to be I mean, reform is just the Tories 10 minutes ago.
	It really is.
	I mean, they're not really extreme or out there on the fringe.
	It's just mainstream politics from the centre-right.
	Or net-zero migration.
	It's better than anything else you get.
	No, I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
	I'm just saying it's not really extreme.
	The idea that that's, I don't know, radical nationalism.
	Yeah, it's not extreme.
	Absolutely, it's not extreme.
	So recently I was in Poland and they have an independence march and there's a literal black block of fascists that turn up.
	And when I went there, honestly, it was really fun to see fascists in the flesh.
	Not because I have any sympathies with it, but it was like, oh my god, they're real!
	It was like finding unicorns.
	Yeah, I've actually seen one in the wild.
	Because you come back to the Anglosphere, and this, this is what they give you as the extreme right, and it's like, that's the most centrist thing I've ever heard of.
	Yeah, like Richard Tice is, you know, apparently, in the mind of his detractors, he's both too milquetoast But also an extremist on the far right.
	There's nothing extreme about him.
	He's just a lovely chap.
	He just wants to be a part of the establishment.
	There's nothing extreme about him.
	It's like Trump.
	He's both a complete bumbling idiot and playing 4D chess with an evil genius.
	Which one is it?
	Yeah, come on.
	Come on.
	But yeah, there's a place there where you and Lawrence are both mentioned.
	Oh, together?
	That's it, that turning point page.
	Scroll down a bit.
	There's Father Robinson there.
	Oh, they chose a nice picture.
	Far right, I'm far right.
	Very nice.
	I'm not evangelical, I'm Catholic.
	They don't really care about facts, do they?
	Yeah, I told you the research is not good.
	You're not Catholic, are you?
	I thought you was reformed.
	It's not Orthodox, is it?
	It's Heterodox, is it?
	It's more C-Catholic.
	I'm not Roman Catholic, but I've certainly never been evangelical in the sense of Protestant.
	You're not a papist.
	You wouldn't describe yourself as a papist.
	I wouldn't describe myself as a papist.
	If you scroll back up to the other column, after Alvin's read, they do sort of gloat that you lost your job on GB News.
	Why are they mentioning my race?
	These so-called anti-racists.
	And of course a bit on Lawrence Fox that he sort of dares to exist, you know.
	Again.
	Abusive on-air tirade against Ava San... He just said he wouldn't fuck her.
	That's... Who's not entitled to that?
	Oh, F-bomb.
	Why'd you find it funnier this time?
	It was, you know... Do you remember Gordon Brown?
	Gordon... A former Prime Minister went on Sky News to talk about how she deserves to be fucked.
	Like really?
	This is a serious debate, is it?
	This is a serious issue.
	No, this is comical.
	This is laughable to look at.
	It's what you've been talking about.
	We're debating whether or not a woman is entitled to sex.
	No.
	The sensationalism of it was just bizarre, wasn't it?
	Yeah, but obvious fake.
	No one in there was really offended.
	No one actually wanted to be upset.
	They were doing it purely for theatrics.
	But while I've got you here, who's that Greek gentleman who controls CB News?
	Angelo Frangiopoulos.
	Right, so wouldn't the ultimate buck stop with him?
	At some point did it get to his desk?
	And he had to make a call, I don't know, you might not know, he had to make a call on whether you and Lawrence got the boot or not.
	He decided to go with that.
	So then, call me cynical, but it's not like, why did he make that decision?
	What's going on there?
	He was already planning to get rid of me and Lawrence anyway, and Neil Oliver.
	The three of us were getting shifted onto online, which has just now happened to Neil Oliver as of last week.
	His show is now two hours online and they edit it down to one hour to put out on air.
	So he's no longer live on air and his content is edited.
	So the controversial stuff they can take out because they don't want people who are actually truth tellers or freedom fighters or actually seeking to voice the opinion of the mass, of the silent majority.
	What they want is a controlled opposition.
	That's what GB News has become.
	Yeah, just to say I love Neil Oliver.
	He's a good man.
	He's got a set of principles which he's prepared to stand on.
	He's the only one that remains there that I would try to store watch.
	Yeah, no, he's brilliant.
	He's by far my favourite.
	So, I mean, one of the things I wanted to say about this is... Yes!
	End non-Christian migration to the UK!
	This is good.
	I'm going to put all this in my bio.
	This is great stuff.
	So it's like Bhajavada almost.
	It's like, not only am I not scared, I'm sort of, it's good.
	It's like the Streisand effect.
	It's like, you know, it gives you more, it gives oxygen to us.
	It's so thick though.
	His conspiratorial outlook.
	And here's an example, such as repeatedly calling for, what's conspiratorial about repeatedly calling for an end to non-Christian migration to the UK?
	It's just commie nonsense.
	Isn't it?
	It's just propaganda.
	Bad English, bad research, and they're badly put together.
	I mean, I'm sorry, I can't help but laugh at this.
	I mean, up here they're saying that Lawrence Fox is a far-right provocateur.
	The image they've chosen is of him doing a peace sign with the word tolerance, freedom of speech, freedom to teach, defending a teacher who was being given death threats from Muslims.
	Yes, they don't want freedom of speech, do they?
	Yes, the average far-right provocateur.
	You know, so who really is on the right side of history?
	That's why I don't find any of this worrying or disturbing, because our sword and our shield are simply truth and reason and righteousness.
	You don't need anything more than that.
	Those tools are more than powerful enough.
	You know, there's like a three page page spread on Elon in this.
	Really?
	You know, it's like... He's not even right wing.
	No.
	Right.
	Dissenters.
	So it's like, you know, they redefine racism, anti-racism and things to now encompass almost everyone.
	They end up having to go after, just like any communist revolution, just like in Mao's theory or anything, you end up having to go after everyone and everything forever.
	That's a madness.
	That's a madness.
	That's why it's doomed to fail.
	Yeah.
	And I think one reason why, hope not hate, at least we'll see what happens if or when the Labour get in.
	If they'll become slightly more powerful again.
	But they're not immune to being sued.
	Joshua was saying just before I came on that they have been sued before.
	But I can't see anything in there that's libelous.
	That's the problem.
	Right, so they're a lot more careful.
	It seems that they're a lot more careful than they used to be.
	Because when you actually read these, most of it I read, or at least scanned, is that they're not sort of throwing around crazy aspersions.
	It's all fairly mild stuff.
	It's almost like a description.
	These are the bad people.
	These are the enemy.
	That's what it is, isn't it?
	They don't seem to be throwing around sort of crazy lies.
	So the reason for that I think might be because of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	So the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center in the United States, basically the mirror image of this.
	Americans will understand.
	Same thing.
	I'm on the ADL list as well.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	So the Southern Poverty Law Center got sued because they claimed that Majid Nawaz, for example, was an anti-Muslim extremist.
	Majid Nawaz, the Muslim.
	So he sued them for lying about him and he won.
	Wait, an anti-Muslim extremist or an anti-Muslim extremist?
	So they said Majid Nawaz was an anti-Muslim extremist.
	He is against Muslim extremists.
	But they said he was against all Muslims.
	He himself being a Muslim.
	It's crazy.
	Found that confusing.
	So sued and got a lot of money and a public apology.
	I know he's dialed down his Islamism but he did actually go to prison at one point in his life for Islamism didn't he?
	Yeah, this is his... In another country somewhere, right?
	His life arc is that he believed in jihadism, went to prison in Egypt.
	That's it, yeah.
	And has now given up on that lifestyle, wants to reform Islam and give up on Islamism.
	Been there, done that, bought the T-shirt.
	Yeah.
	But he's still certainly a Muslim.
	But the idea... It just doesn't make any sense, does it?
	The idea that the man who has gone through the Islamist world come out of it and said, right, that's bollocks.
	We need to have a peaceful version of Islam that we live under.
	And then advocating that publicly, you put on the list.
	Yeah, you're gonna get sued.
	So that's probably why.
	Because they're losing money when that happens now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, that was basically it.
	Where do they get their money?
	Idiots.
	Who funds Hope Not Hate?
	Because they always ask that, don't they?
	Who funds you?
	Who funds you?
	That's all they ever say.
	So who funds them?
	Yeah, very good question.
	If there's any sort of amateur investigative journalists out there that want to sort of delve into that and let us know, because I don't actually know.
	It's a very, very good question.
	It's a very pertinent question.
	I know a little bit.
	Yeah.
	So Lucy Brown, I don't know if you know the name, but she did a lot of research into these guys.
	And one of their sources is the government.
	So they managed to weasel their way into getting funds.
	They're not large, but they're small and a lot of small ones add up to fund anti-hate or anti-extremism programs, especially even within schools.
	So these guys also work with the schooling system.
	So remember, I think I can tell this story.
	Just making sure.
	Just going to do some legal stuff in my head.
	Yep, yeah we can, alright.
	So there was a sixth form that invited Carl, and these two young lads, oh my god I was so impressed, like they're like 16 when they invited us to come and give a speech at their school, they're running their conservative party group, okay?
	And they'd like Carl to come and talk about liberalism.
	And Carl said, okay, sure, why not?
	These two kids are unbelievably smart because as soon as they did that, their school leadership said, no, no, you're not allowed to do that.
	So then they said, okay, we'll get on a Zoom call and tell us why not.
	And they recorded it.
	And, um, the debate they had with the school teachers is laughably bad where they're just saying why, and they can't answer.
	And eventually it came down to that specific school was given a, uh, document called Signs of Hate, which was made by these chaps.
	And in there, they just claimed that Carl is alongside the SS supporters.
	I was like, yeah, no.
	Love these bollocks.
	It all comes down to the list.
	This is the same reason I couldn't get Carl on GB News.
	And I couldn't get any good reason why not.
	I'm like, he's good on this topic.
	This is his area of expertise.
	Let's invite him on.
	No, we can't have him.
	Why?
	Why not?
	And it's because he's on these lists.
	It's because some lunatic has mentioned, ah, here's his neo-Nazis.
	And then here's Carl Benjamin, who's a liberal.
	Yeah, they're the same.
	That's the same thing.
	It's just prejudice.
	Literally.
	But you know, it's the good fight against anti-racism.
	That's all it is.
	What if that's anti-racism?
	Give me some racism.
	That's getting clipped.
	100% that's getting clipped.
	I might start posting underneath tweets.
	One of the last points I wanted to make is that they're not even actually calling out or shining a spotlight on, because there are certainly in any population that's got millions and millions of people, there will be some genuinely bad actors, bad eggs, but they pick out You, Carl, pick out the Mallard.
	This is great.
	This is a spotlight.
	This is exposure.
	The Mallard is a very small outlet, mostly young lads.
	Good for them for getting in there.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, they'll call out Hearts of Oak.
	Right.
	Someone like, you know, lots of friends of this channel, actually, you know, they would dare to have any connection to Tommy or Carl or something.
	It's like, this is...
	It's into the realm of pathetic for me.
	And that's not just purely casting aspersions against my political enemies.
	I'd have to get Steve and Lennon in there, don't you think?
	Yaxley Lennon, I haven't even got his name right.
	It's sort of objectively pathetic, it seems to me.
	It is, it is.
	At this point.
	It's just juvenile.
	Yeah.
	And that these people, I named a lot of them at the beginning, it's like, um, these are, these are cowards.
	These are moral cowards.
	It's nothing to be scared of.
	Yeah.
	Let them name you then.
	It's not... Look at what they call out, man.
	On Parliament Square, demanding the deportation of Muslim perpetrators of Onstreet Grooming Gang.
	Oh no!
	They want to deport the rapists!
	Far right.
	Sorry, is this controversial?
	Do you disagree?
	You think we should keep the rapists here?
	Clearly they do.
	Clearly.
	For what reason would we keep a foreign rapist in this country?
	I'm just baffled by this.
	It's outstanding.
	Thank you for bringing this.
	Or like, is it Steve Laws?
	Someone like that.
	Oh no.
	Oh no.
	I think they might mention him somewhere.
	But anyway, yeah.
	This is just, it's a boil on the bottom of Britain.
	It's something that needs to be launched.
	It's something we don't need.
	Well, I'm going to go through this and find some new people to follow.
	Yeah, right.
	Exactly.
	No, exactly.
	And they know what they're doing there as well, putting Tommy next to Cole, side by side.
	This is how they work, isn't it?
	Smear by association.
	So yeah, that's their annual report.
	Great.
	The state of hate.
	The who's the who list of who's sound.
	The absolute state of the state of hate is predicted.
	Okay, I'll leave you there.
	Alrighty, let's go to the video comments.
	Was he constructing a killgeyser?
	It is a tank, but no.
	This is my grandfather's Dodge Polara, which he bought new in 66.
	It already meant a lot to both of us, but the last thing he ever said in his deathbed to me was imploring me to restore it, which I promised I would.
	Got the hottest motor you could buy, too.
	10-to-1 383 with the 440 cam.
	Hell yeah.
	I drove it home for the wilds of Canada, only to discover that this was the appropriate reaction to its condition.
	Fortunately, I found a donor down in Oregon.
	Trucked down there, trucked back, and now I got it all prepped and ready to go in.
	It's a big job, but I'll get her done.
	I promised the old boy I would.
	Avanti!
	It could be a Killdozer.
	It's not too late, my friend.
	So you weren't surprised.
	You were actually hoping for a Wishler Stallion.
	That's the Ghostbusters car, isn't it?
	It looks similar.
	Isn't the Ghostbusters car a hearse?
	How is it?
	I can't remember exactly, but it's a similar shape.
	But no, in all honesty, good luck to that guy with that restoration project.
	Let's go to the next one.
	So Harry, to go further down into the rabbit hole this year, I think this movie was even made to propaganda as this, and I think it's more accepting of the music's degenerate scene out there, because obviously this film is basically a biography of Russell Brand, but P.D.D.
	also starred in this movie too as well, and he was a complete psychopath producer who was a fool on the degenerate, and it's played for comedic purposes, but honestly, like I mentioned in the back, it makes a lot more sense now.
	Uh, well Harry's not here, so he can't respond, um, so, sorry.
	But I also had a real tough time understanding you, I'll be honest.
	Yeah, I didn't, yeah, I didn't get everything you said.
	I don't know if that's an accent thing or a quality of my microphone thing, but, uh, yeah, but we'll have to move on, I'm afraid.
	So let's go to the next one.
	Dorothy L Sayers invokes a scornful quote that neatly captures today's online discourse.
	Oh, cool.
	Oh, cool. cool.
	Very fitting. - Yeah, I wonder what that was a description of exactly.
	Awoke.
	Right, but I mean in the first instance what it was.
	I had to study the Aeneid at A-level and read it once later in my 20s.
	I don't remember that quote, I can't remember what it must have been referring to.
	Some demons.
	Does it relate?
	Some description.
	Let's go to the next one.
	All right, guys, here's a fun one for you.
	I found a Wrap Snacks at my local Target store.
	The flavors actually kind of look good, but I'm just like, did the ghetto come to me?
	I haven't seen this in any other store, so maybe it is.
	Anyway, even more interesting than that is the CEO is James Lindsay.
	Not that James Lindsay, but you should all thank him for Wrap Snacks on Twitter.
	It'd be funny.
	That's brilliant.
	James Lindsay's just agreed to come on my Common Sense Crusade very soon when he launches his new film, so that should be an interesting conversation.
	Yeah, well done via Zoom or Skype or something.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank him for the Rab Snacks, would you?
	I will do.
	See if we can get some in the studio.
	Those Snoop Snacks looked alright.
	I'd give them a whirl.
	Yeah, whoever that was, could you send some in?
	We'd love to try them.
	Just for novelty value, sure, yeah.
	And actually, if you would send them in, it'd be funny to have you open them and be like, oh, thanks James.
	But I don't know, whenever I see any product that's got a celebrity on it, it's just like, right, that's probably a crab.
	Land for the merch, isn't it?
	Blaze up a blunt for old Snoop whilst eating his snack.
	Oh no!
	None of that!
	Not on camera!
	I mean, at all!
	Vote for me!
	There was a lot of stick in the last week for smoking a cigar for goodness sake.
	Can you imagine how much stick you'd take for smoking a blunt?
	Which you shouldn't do.
	All the feminazis on Twitter and lots of feminazi guys as well.
	Smoking a cigar?
	What kind of a statement are you making?
	Mary Harrington said it's phallus and this and that and copying the taits.
	I'm like, come on.
	That's what folks do.
	We smoke cigars and have a chat.
	How far have we come as a society where we look at the cigars and think, why are you doing that?
	What message are you sending?
	It's like, no message.
	No, I just like smoking.
	That's what we used to do.
	Again, it's the thin end of the wedge.
	Don't smoke cigars, naughty child.
	Wicked child.
	Don't ever drink any alcohol.
	Don't ever do anything bad or naughty or enjoyable, ever.
	That's the slippery slope towards where it is, right?
	I just thought that was bloody weird.
	It's very weird, isn't it?
	Sincerely, people will shout out, you've been smoking and smoking.
	So the people… That's embarrassing!
	That's so sad!
	Sorry, that's so dumb!
	I know!
	It just shows how far we've come.
	Even the people that are on our side are like, please don't smoke, we want you to be around longer.
	And it's like, great, but if I die at 80 from lung cancer, I'd rather live 80 years of life that I've enjoyed than live another 100 years of misery.
	You had the Southpaw.
	You had the South Park song.
	With a Heidi-Li-Li-Li-Di and a Heidi-Li-Di-Lay, we work and we make cigarettes all Heidi-Li-Di-Day so folks can get a breaky from their stressful lighty lives and relaxy with the cigarettes we make all day and night.
	Exactly.
	It's like the people that don't eat meat, the people that don't do anything nice, like, everything in moderation, short.
	Enjoy life!
	You know Warren Buffett?
	He goes to McDonald's every single day.
	Really?
	That's a bit much.
	But someone asked him about it, because he's like, I don't know, 70 now.
	And they asked him, well, why do you eat such crap?
	Because he likes it.
	And yeah, he explained, well, if someone said to me, you've got to eat broccoli for the rest of your life, you'll live a couple extra years.
	Screw that.
	To what end?
	Yeah.
	He really, really loves Coke as well, doesn't he?
	Yeah.
	Coca-Cola.
	Not the Rishi Sunak Coke.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Coca-Cola.
	But yeah, it's just, it's like, thanks for the faux interest in my health.
	But I'll do what I want to do.
	Thanks.
	Imagine if the Queen had alcohol for breakfast, alcohol for supper, alcohol for lunch.
	It's like she lived a very long life and she enjoyed her life.
	Look at Winston Churchill.
	He was, uh, chain smoked cigars, drunk whiskey for breakfast.
	And then all day, lived to be in his nineties.
	There's a YouTube video of a guy trying to keep up with Churchill, but he got his diaries and just tried to, and he was just like, I want to die.
	Not fun.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Please get private health cover.
	I'm waiting for a procedure.
	After they found something a week ago during a scan.
	I've been calling the hospital every day and being passed from department to department.
	Today I was told there was no referral and they didn't know what I was talking about.
	Finally got some joy after bursting into tears.
	Does help.
	Now I have something on Monday but without anaesthetic.
	That'll be fun.
	Just get private health cover.
	Good advice.
	What's her name?
	She is there somewhere.
	Ramshackle Otter.
	Ramshackle, I'll pray for you and I'll pray for you and your health and that you get better.
	And sound advice, I have private healthcare.
	When I worked at GB News, they provided us with Bupa.
	And when I left, I thought, you know what, I'm going to pay whatever it is per month to keep this.
	I don't get paid very much at the moment, but I'm keeping my health cover because I do not trust the NHS.
	I don't trust the government.
	I don't think that people who can afford to pay for healthcare should take the free system because it's not free.
	We all pay for it.
	The NHS is a safety net for people who cannot afford health care.
	So absolutely.
	Well, good advice.
	I was going to say, yeah, absolutely.
	I couldn't agree more with the sentiment.
	It's just unfortunately a lot of people simply can't afford private health care.
	I don't think a lot of people looked into how affordable it actually is, to be honest with you.
	It's not like America where you pay thousands of pounds per month.
	There are affordable options.
	Yeah.
	It's just some people, you know, every £50 is the difference between going over your overdraft limit or not.
	But those are the people that the NHS is there for.
	Yeah, right, yeah, yeah.
	For the rest of us who... And she's not wrong.
	Right.
	Let's go to the next one.
	This is it.
	What?
	Is this going somewhere or has this dude just spent 30 quid to send us a bunch of memes? .
	Yeah, all right.
	Okay.
	Someone subscribed for £40 a month just to send that.
	Okay.
	Thank you for the memes.
	Yeah, we'll take it.
	Sure.
	Right, we'll go to the written comments on the site.
	So, Arizona Desert Rat says, Hey Callum, what's the date?
	You know, I am going to sit and explain the whole bloody meme again, and if it doesn't go in this time, I'm never bringing it up again.
	So, I stopped saying the date, and the purpose of this was, I explained to Dan, Neil deGrasse Tyson, you know how much of a prick he is?
	So, he met Spielberg at a party, and told Spielberg, when Rose and Jack are in the water, if you look at the stars, they're actually the wrong way round.
	And Spielberg politely is just like, oh, were they?
	Yeah, bye.
	And then two years later, Neil deGrasse Tyson walked up to Spielberg again and told him the same story.
	And Spielberg clearly remembered and just went, yeah, and if I had him the other way around, I would have made a billion more dollars.
	I was like, doesn't bloody matter?
	So, um, the whole thing with the day is I was just trying to, um, talk to people in the office and be like, you know, focus on what matters, which is, you know, making the content good, the research well, blah, blah, blah.
	The date's at the top of the webpage.
	It's in the bottom right of your computer.
	It's at the top left of your phone.
	You know what the date is.
	That's if you're watching live, it might not, you might not be watching live.
	Yeah, but in which case, again, it's on the screen.
	But my point being, it's like, you know, focus on what matters.
	And then I told this all to Dan, and then Dan turned around and went, what's the date?
	And I'll be honest, my brain was like, that is like someone asking me, but what if I ate breakfast this morning?
	I don't know what to do at this point.
	So yeah, there we are.
	That's the record.
	It's the 14th.
	That's the explanation of why the origins of all of this, just for anyone who missed it.
	There we are.
	We have Super Chats!
	So, Trump and Mike sent 17 bucks to say, Calvin for UK Prime Minister, great episode guys.
	Oh, thank you!
	I don't know if I'd take it, but cheers anyway.
	Would you ever enter?
	Again?
	Yeah, the game.
	Who would I run for?
	You could be an independent, start your own party.
	In our uniparty system, people vote Labour or Conservatives, and I don't believe in the policies of either of those parties, so I wouldn't have a shot in hell.
	There's no point.
	Well, you know, there are sometimes independents.
	Martin Bell.
	There are independent MPs.
	George Calloway?
	It happens, yeah.
	I could harness the Muslim vote, you're absolutely right, but that would go against everything.
	Have you tried pandering and being a...
	Is there a constituency that's sort of heavily, you know, the demographic is massively, overwhelmingly Christian and right-leaning?
	I'd be living there, Beau.
	Where?
	Maybe Horden?
	Yeah, find a rotten burrow with three voters.
	We buy all the houses!
	But again, I don't think you can change the system from within.
	It's corrupt.
	We've got to change it from without, which is what we're doing, right?
	So, uh, Blood for the Blood God sent 99 bucks, and he's asking me apparently if there's going to be a civil war in Russia, which, um, uh...
	Peter Hitchens has the best advice on the way to understand Russia, which is, Russian politics is like two dogs arguing under a carpet.
	You don't know who's going to win until the living dog comes out of the carpet.
	It is impossible to understand.
	Yeah, it's really impossible to understand that country, and trying to do so is foolish.
	Just wait for it to happen.
	It's not our land, so thankfully we don't have to worry about that much.
	And Peter Hitchens, although I profoundly disagree with quite a lot of his world view, he does know Russia well, he lived there and stuff, didn't he?
	Bigly.
	Right, yeah, so he does actually, he has actually got a good perspective on things and I've seen him say that before.
	Yeah, it's all behind closed doors.
	You know, it's post-Soviet, but not in every sense.
	It's still very much a closed system in all sorts of ways, right?
	Yeah, modern.
	So I engaged a little bit in, well, I didn't engage in politics, I met political people and tried to understand the system from their perspective, various folks.
	And the conclusion I got in Russia is that it's not the Soviet system anymore at all, but it is not understandable.
	No one in their country really understands their own system.
	I mean, no one's really sure how much power Putin even has.
	If there's people backing him, or maybe he's actually in control, or blah blah blah.
	It's not good, is it?
	Yeah, but... I remember when he went missing for two weeks, everyone was kind of suspecting that he'd been kidnapped by his puppet masters, whoever they may be.
	No one could name them.
	And then there are a lot of people who think that he killed all the puppet masters recently.
	Good for him.
	The point being, no one knows.
	Free yourself, Putin!
	He looks a bit peaky one time, and they say, he's dying, he's got cancer, he's got stage 4 cancer.
	I feel a little bit like Russian politics is like a black market.
	But for politics, you're not on a black market.
	It's all word of mouth.
	It's all sort of hush hush under the counter stuff and you just find out through word of mouth how much things are worth and who you need to approach for stuff.
	I feel like that's what's going on with their political system on some level, in a way.
	It's only a broad metaphor.
	Definitely very few people understand what's going on, and for anyone in the West to claim that they do, I mean, they're lying.
	It's reality.
	So there we are.
	SwitzerlandplayIT sent a buckaroo to say, would like to get Jiggy Jiggy with Bo.
	So there we are.
	Thanks for your buck.
	You're in there.
	Okay.
	It's not clear which gender they are from their name, but still one buck.
	What's your price?
	Yeah, a bit more than one buck.
	So we agree on what you are, we're just negotiating price.
	Everyone's got a price.
	Mine's just more than one dollar.
	Anyway, sorry, carry on.
	Chad Master says, can you tell Calvin his interview with the bad man was amazing and very insightful.
	Great work.
	Thank you, appreciate that.
	I enjoyed it too.
	George Hap says, glad to have Father Calvin on the main show and not isolated to his own little crusade.
	Hey, it's not isolation!
	Come over to the crusade, 3pm today!
	So on the Motherland stuff, oh god, there's a lot of superchats.
	Right, we'll have to prioritise these.
	That's how it's going to be.
	Sean for 10 bucks says, that is exactly the point.
	We must have consistent immigrations and growth for the oligarchs and multinational conglomerates, not for the culture or for the people.
	Which, yeah.
	He also sent another 10 bucks to say, the mass immigration will stop when the handouts stop.
	You must organize and fight to end all the handouts.
	Fair point.
	End the welfare states.
	I do think the benefits of the welfare state are, they go hand in hand with mass immigration, right?
	It's, they're not, they're not separate in any real sense.
	Obviously.
	But we've done the numbers.
	I mean, if we're talking about mass immigration from Hong Kong, we actually wouldn't have to worry because the ethnic group just doesn't claim large amount of benefits.
	But if we're looking at Bangladesh, they're the worst ethnic group for this in the UK.
	Yeah.
	Literally, I mean, we are overwhelmingly the child benefit.
	We were paying to have kids and graze them.
	Bangladeshis.
	The welfare state doesn't work for the white British in this country.
	It works mostly for the Bangladeshis.
	Well, I'm moving out of London in two months.
	I physically cannot afford to stay in London any longer.
	Yet people on my road are living there for free.
	And they're not even English.
	Yeah.
	It's a mad, mad system.
	And plus you throw on top of that the policy, essentially, that you will not get deported.
	So benefit system and no deportations.
	So Josie Angel says, Calvin, keep up the fight.
	It's no use to win if we don't have a moral compass.
	We need the faith of our English European cultures to be built if we want our children to be free.
	Amen.
	Wise words.
	Thank you.
	The Shadow Band for 50 bucks says, speaking of English culture, what's each of your favorites Shakespearean play?
	Henry V, hands down, easy peasy, no brainer for me.
	I like Macbeth, I know it's a bit cliche, but it's never old.
	A Midsummer Night's Dream is always fun.
	I'm not a big reader, so, shock to no one, but I'm not a big fan of Shakespeare.
	I'm going to bring you some Shakespeare books.
	I mean, you think maybe I should, but at the same time I'm just like, I don't like reading.
	Come on.
	I'll go to a play in the Globe Theatre.
	I don't like reading.
	That's like saying I don't like eating.
	Like, it doesn't make sense to me.
	No, but like, eating tastes good.
	But it's how we live.
	Is it?
	Also, audiobooks.
	Audiobooks are a great thing.
	You can have it on whilst you're playing games or whatever.
	Literally everyone in this office sits around reading books all the time.
	I'm dyslexic, so I much prefer the oral tradition.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Okay.
	I love videos and whatnot.
	Well, I'm with Beau then.
	Audiobooks.
	We'll do that.
	Get an Audible account.
	Yeah.
	On to the puberty blockers.
	Reece Sims says, there is only one example I can think of where a child could have puberty blockers.
	One of my granddad's friends had a daughter who had a medical condition where she started going through puberty at four years old.
	She was given puberty blockers until she was eight, where she went through the normal puberty cycle.
	Well, fair enough.
	In an extreme situation like that, fair enough.
	That's medically helping someone, isn't it?
	Rather than the opposite.
	Yeah, good medical advice versus let me sterilize a teenager.
	Yeah, because you have feelings.
	Same with abortion, I wonder how much you'll kick back on this, but I just think it should hardly ever happen, but there would be freak occasions when it would be best.
	Name one Beau.
	Well, if the baby is 100% going to be terribly, terribly, it will be something close to a stillbirth or something, or the mother's life, There are no situations where the baby has to die for the mother to live.
	Is there not?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Never?
	No, there's never a reason in this modern medical age to kill a baby.
	Fair enough then.
	Alright.
	Arizona Desert Rat says detransitioners are treated horribly in the United States by some groups.
	Oh god, yeah.
	It's almost like being a race traitor.
	Yes.
	Because you took part.
	And some are terrified to come out and admit they made a mistake.
	But they genuinely are persecuted.
	They genuinely are oppressed.
	All the things that the Chinese are saying they are.
	The detransitioners really are.
	Again, that's thrown on top of someone that's already, you would have thought almost by definition, fragile.
	Vulnerable, yeah.
	Vulnerable.
	It's a horrible place to find yourself in.
	CaliforniaRefugee says, I'll be vague, but there are people in my life that have been tricked into the trans thing.
	And yes, this is personal.
	Yes, there are things that can't be undone.
	Yes, it hurts.
	Yes, I'm angry.
	No, I can't do anything due to being protected by evil people.
	Please keep doing things on this topic.
	I need something to show people to convince them of all the lies.
	Any suggestions?
	What is a woman?
	The documentary.
	That is pretty powerful, yeah.
	Didn't Connor do a very powerful bit of content interview with someone in our old office a while ago?
	Who was that?
	That's the lady you mentioned earlier, Kelvin.
	Kirabel.
	Yeah.
	So the thing about the detransitioners, I think, is probably they're the ones to go to, is it's direct, first-hand experience.
	And I imagine if this person has done this and it was the wrong thing to do, that's probably the best place they should start.
	Yeah.
	There we are.
	Usually I'd say therapy, but the therapist is sending people to surgery.
	I'd say church, but they're making it illegal to talk about this in church.
	So yeah, speak to someone who's been through it.
	You know what's weird about therapy is you know how Americans love it and we kind of... Yeah, we cringed it.
	I was reading a post the other day that mentioned that thinking your therapist likes you is like thinking the stripper likes you.
	I can't get that out of my head now.
	That's so true.
	Yep.
	I mean, generally speaking, I'm a kind of pre-therapy in the sense of, I think we did better before therapy was such a thing.
	In the age of stoicism and resilience and now everything's just, oh let your feelings out.
	I get it, there's a degree of that working.
	And there's a place for it.
	There are people who need it, for sure.
	But the idea that it should be normalized for everyone all the time, it's like... It's not good.
	It's not healthy.
	It just seems more like you're stealing my money.
	I don't trust anyone who makes money off my misery.
	Same reason I don't trust dentists.
	It's in their interest to find something wrong with my teeth.
	And every time I go, they do.
	It costs me money.
	And it's painful.
	Yeah, that's true.
	One of my ex-girlfriends, she's Kuwaiti, and the dentists in Kuwait get paid by the government for just more stuff, if they do more things, and it's like a grand for putting in a filling.
	So every time she went around as a child, they're just like, ah, all these teeth need to come out.
	Of course!
	Why wouldn't they?
	Moving on to Hope Not Hate, just to end it off.
	Lancey and Joyce says, Hope Not Hate is not anti-racist, it's anti-white.
	Shouldn't have noticed that, really.
	It's not really odd to have noticed such a thing.
	Amnesty International tweeted something today, didn't they?
	End white superiority.
	I'm like, okay, so is Amnesty International saying that white people are superior?
	I need to stop being so.
	Otherwise, what are they saying?
	What does that mean, end white superiority?
	And also we can't help it.
	Omar Awad says, hope not hate, don't make concerned normies look like Hitler by calling them Nazis.
	They make fascists seem tame by putting them next to the same level as reasonable civilized people.
	The irony is that they advocate for much more extreme measures against the ideological opposition than the actual Nazis.
	It's true.
	I think that's probably a good note to end on as well.
	So as mentioned, come back in 30 minutes, go get some tea, some biscuits, and there'll be a Common Sense Crusade you can join.
	Deus Vult.
	Yeah, Deus Vult.
	Ave Maria.
	Ah, sound!
	Goodbye.
	Gratia plena.

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