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Jan. 5, 2024 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #822

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Seaters.
	I'm joined by Carl and Jess Gill, the lady who goes on the streets and asks questions.
	So, you may remember her from, I think, what was the last one we did?
	We were asking everyone about, I think, the Conservative Party, wasn't it?
	Yeah, it was a bit awkward.
	What is it like interacting with dinos on a daily basis?
	Yeah, it's quite interesting.
	I always try and pick as many clips as I can.
	I don't just get the most controversial ones.
	The Average Man on the Street is literally that stupid.
	It's so over.
	Yeah, it is.
	I've watched a lot of your stuff and it's depressing.
	The Average Man on the Street has always been that stupid.
	You have to take that into account when making any kind of plans.
	I did tell you this once.
	So there was a lady, no, a man in 1803 who did exactly this, where he went and did the interviews, but just asked them questions and wrote down the answers.
	And the answers he got from people, when he'd ask about who is Jesus Christ, and they'd say, well, he's no customer of mine, so I don't know.
	It's just like, really?
	Really?
	Okay.
	So yeah, people have always been that stupid.
	Anyway, today we will be talking about the Epstein files.
	Turns out they're exactly what you expect.
	President was a pedo.
	Anyway, the Indian...
	I hope you didn't substantiate.
	Yeah.
	It's not that Bill Clinton's going to sue us.
	It's like, okay, Bill, we'll get a call.
	Oh, you're defaming my character.
	What character?
	We're going to go through discovery now, are we, Bill?
	Yeah.
	We're going to subpoena a bunch of stuff now, are we, Bill?
	I'd like to check your emails, mate.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The Indian Conspiracy, which is some fun.
	I won't ruin that one.
	And also the Defense of Trad Thoughts, which I really wanted to do, and I couldn't find a more perfect place to do it, because I think you suggested it as a topic.
	Yeah.
	And then I wanted to berate him with it anyway.
	So, the stars have aligned.
	What was the Defense of Trad Thoughts?
	Oh no, we'll get to their punishments.
	Anyway.
	Epstein, the files have been released.
	They're out, boys.
	We can now go and check it.
	And I thought this was the flight logs or something that were being released.
	No, they're already out.
	Yeah, it turns out this is just the documents, which are the court cases.
	And for some reason these weren't available.
	I can't actually figure out as to why, because this is definitely the public interest.
	And now they've been released, and we'll get the sunscreen.
	I can't figure out why the elites didn't release the pedo files, just showing that they're all a bunch of pedos or pedo adjacent.
	Yeah, I can't imagine why this wasn't released.
	You are right.
	I mean, the elite pedo cult that runs the world.
	You know the meme that's like, here you are in the galaxy, paying taxes to pedos, that's literally what's happening.
	Anyway, they've all been exposed, at least some of them, because here's the court document.
	Now it's 943 pages, so... You read every one, diligently, didn't you?
	No, I couldn't be bothered.
	So, shoot me, but I was writing three sentences.
	Yeah, so what I did is what everyone else has done, which is find the good... CTRL F.
	Bill Clinton!
	Donald Trump?
	Oh, it's him, not me!
	So, um, yeah, this is the thing.
	You can go find it in your own time.
	I've found you the link, so you can go and do it if you want to.
	And, um, I don't know, you're bored at work.
	So, do go and do that.
	But, we'll check, I suppose, the best parts, the most interesting parts.
	And we'll start off with this guy, who decided to make a little thread of that, which is, uh, polite of him.
	And the first one here is him talking about the fact that it turns out President Clinton is a key person who can provide information about his close relationship with the defendant and Mr. Epstein, the defendant being Epstein's personal assistant there, Ms.
	Maxwell.
	And they say disapprove of Ms.
	Maxwell's claims.
	I don't know why they've miswritten that, but whatever.
	Anyway.
	It's going to be legal jargon for deny them or something like that.
	Yeah, I'm not a lawyer.
	So, yeah.
	Well, we'll wait for Legal Eagle or Fry.
	So here's the testimony.
	Here's the big juicy, which is the big thing for me, which is, as you can see here, this is a conversation with one of the witnesses, and they asked the witness, did Jeffrey ever talk to you about Bill Clinton?
	And the witness responds, he said that Clinton likes them young, referring to girls, which is the big thing that's been screenshotted and shared around the most, probably because, yeah, that's really, really bad.
	Also, I did notice no one seems to give a crap.
	This is something strange about all of this.
	Have you noticed that everyone just went, yeah, Bill Clinton's a pedo and just moved on?
	Yeah, but it's, no, no, no.
	This is very much like the UFO thing, right?
	Where it's been in the sort of subconscious online discourse for a long time, right?
	So like, you know, you've got like millions of people watching UFO conspiracy videos, right?
	You've got millions of people watching the Hollywood elites are a bunch of pedos, the political elites are a bunch of pedos.
	And so when the evidence comes out and they're like, oh, by the way, we found aliens.
	Everyone's like, yeah, we know.
	What's the point?
	By the way, the elites of Peter said, yeah, we know we've known for ages.
	What's your point?
	You know, like you're actually behind the curve on this.
	Well, I mean, there's something to that, though, isn't there?
	Like, Bill Clinton was that guy that had sexual relations with that woman, and that was the meme about him.
	And I don't know at what point it changed, but now he's just known in the public consciousness as a pedophile.
	And, well, there's some evidence to that effect, though, I suppose.
	To avoid getting sued, I must say, allegedly, although I don't think he's going to sue, because I don't know what that court case would even be.
	But there we are.
	There's that.
	ClintonVsLotusEaters.com.
	You're not changing anyone's minds, Bill.
	So we'll get to that later, actually, because there's some more evidence that it's even worse.
	But real quick, getting to Prince Andrew.
	So this is the Prince Andrew stuff, in which there's a really weird story about this.
	So here they're talking to one of the witnesses and they're like, yeah, Prince Andrew was there when I was being roomed.
	Spoilers.
	Yeah, he's been convicted too.
	How hard does this go?
	But this story is just really gross, which is the, um, I don't know what the hell is going on, but for some reason, uh, Jeffrey Epstein was playing with a puppet and puts his hand on the puppet's breast.
	And then apparently Prince Andrew put his hands on the underage girl's breast that was on his lap.
	It's just like, okay, that's, that's now public knowledge.
	That's part of the court case.
	And it's like, that's, that's obviously quite gross.
	Yeah, that's very weird.
	But again, it's sort of not really taken on board.
	No one's freaking out.
	They're just like, yeah.
	The nonce of York.
	What do you want?
	Which is... I don't know.
	I don't know how I feel about that.
	I mean, I don't think it's really surprising.
	Honestly, I'm not surprised.
	It's just another headline in the news pretty much for me.
	I think this shows how much we have distrust in our institutions and the politicians running it.
	That a story like this, quite frankly, I'm quite surprised it's not worse.
	That's how much I distrust these people.
	I don't know how it could be worse, but I'm surprised it's not worse.
	That's a great point.
	I actually kind of expected it to be worse.
	That's totally true.
	True.
	I mean, full videos of the insides of that mosque that's on the island.
	Well, I mean, I'm like, well, they're like sacrificing and stuff, right?
	Because that's what the videos I've watched have told me.
	So, like, when it's like, oh, he's molesting you guys.
	Okay, well, he hasn't murdered her ritually.
	Was he drinking the blood of children to stop aging?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, you know, I mean, this is atrocious, obviously, but like, Yeah, I guess I've been primed by conspiracy theorists to think it's going to be way worse than that.
	There's some other weirdness in this.
	I mean, this one's quite strange.
	One of the witnesses talks about the fact that Epstein did know that they were underage, and his defense was that the girls were lying about their age.
	We're talking about girls as young as, what was it, like 13 or something?
	That's not an edge case.
	So like, tee hee, I'm 17.
	No.
	It's obviously a lie.
	In the previous depositions that were made public, Isla and Maxwell would go out with other young girls and find very young girls.
	Deliberately find very young girls.
	And the young girls would find other young girls.
	And they all came from broken homes as well, like a lot of them.
	And again, if there's a better case for a nuclear family than this, I don't think there is.
	How to stop the pedos around the world having a nuclear family.
	Stay married.
	Look after your kids.
	I mean, it works.
	The next series of stuff from this is literally just him naming names, which is not that interesting because these people are just people who visited the place, which doesn't tell us much.
	So someone said that they met Michael Jackson, which... Norm Macdonald joke in there somewhere.
	Apparently the chairman of Hyatt Hotels visited, so massive rich person.
	Not a surprise.
	Billionaire hedge funder that no one's ever heard of visited.
	Who cares?
	And then there's magician David Copperfield.
	We visited as a guest and apparently knew about the underage girls, and that's it.
	And then there's just a list of other names, like Leonardo DiCaprio apparently made a visit.
	Yeah.
	But again, that's not really news.
	I really can't hit on that enough.
	Isn't that kind of weird?
	That we live in a world where we just found out like, yeah, all the celebrities and billionaires are all pedophiles probably.
	And we're all just like... They've at least all been to Pedo Island.
	Yeah it's okay.
	I mean considering the stuff that they put like outwardly on Netflix like cuties for example again they're just saying the quiet parts out loud at this point when they're happy to pretty much put out like de facto pedophilia like cuties or like I don't know if you guys have seen Euphoria It's like underage, it's a very like young adult girl thing.
	So there's like a trans character and they all do drugs and they all dress very, very revealingly.
	Like that kind of thing.
	And there's just so many cases of this where they're promoting young people to have actually underage sex.
	So it's really not surprising that they're doing stuff like this when they're literally promoting it in the media.
	I mean in cuties we literally saw what was it like a security guard or whatever perving on these like nine-year-old girls it was like yes this is French culture and it's like I don't know about that lads I feel like a hanging is in order for whoever ordered this, but either way.
	To be fair, it might well be.
	Not to insult the French, just joking.
	Just Paris.
	Just Paris in general.
	Yeah, Parisian culture, let's call it that.
	But I'm sure there's a defense for Michael Jackson, etc, which is, you know, someone else put my name on there.
	I don't know what else they're going to say.
	This is Dumbledore, who's also been found on there.
	Someone's forged his name on the flight logs.
	The other thing in there that relates to Bill Clinton that I think is sort of skirted over is there's one email in here in which this is from Virginia Guilfrey to someone else and they're talking about an instance in which apparently Bill Clinton decided to go to Vanity Fair's office And just yell at them about how Jeffrey Epstein was his good friend, so they should downplay the charges against him at the time.
	And then nWokeness here has put together the other side of that, which is the Vanity Fair article about this particular event, which we've come up with.
	Trump supporters are very upset about the fact that we're ruled by an international pedo cabal, says Vanity Fair.
	Yeah, I think that seems justified.
	But Vanity Fair are named in this.
	Which is really weird that their own vanity didn't get the best of them.
	They didn't talk about their own involvement in the case.
	Because their own involvement in the case is apparently them downplaying it.
	At least according to the case.
	So, there we are.
	I saw a bunch of advice and stuff like that being like, oh look, right-wingers care about this.
	It's like, shocking that you don't.
	You hang around with the left-wing president, who's probably a pedo, and literally, according to the statements, well, is the reason you don't whine about this.
	It's why, in fact, you re-head everything as like, ah, they're Trump supporters, they're interested in stopping pedophilia.
	Not the burn you think it is, but... Why is this always the case, though, that every time there's something to do with rape or grooming, it's always actually the right defending it, like the grooming gangs or when illegal immigrants do that kind of stuff, and now this?
	Yeah, literally, it's the right who are supposedly patriarchal and anti-woman and, you know, That's a really weird way to take that.
	Well, you'd think the so-called feminists would support it.
	Yeah, I mean, their version of feminism includes getting raped, apparently.
	Apparently.
	Like, that's just mad.
	But this goes on, because of course, people have known... Just quickly, is it not self-evident?
	Like, people are what they repeatedly do.
	If the left is repeatedly trying to get kids molested and women raped, okay, well, there we go.
	Patriarchy is the protection of things.
	It's the delineation of right from wrong.
	That's literally what it's for.
	Like, it's to protect people from getting raped.
	That's the point.
	Smash the patriarchy.
	It has a different meaning after all that.
	Obviously it does.
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess this is the thing about, you know, like guys who are opening the doors for women.
	It's a sign of protection and chivalry.
	And it's a sign that men should have that obligation to protect women.
	And now that's out the window.
	Men don't feel a need.
	Well, I think they do feel an inherent need, but society and the media say you shouldn't do that.
	Well, the whole point is to preserve innocence, right?
	And so preserve sanctity.
	And smash the patriarchy means destroy the ideas of innocence and sanctity.
	So you will be perverted, you will be debauched, and that's equality.
	Because some people aren't innocent, some people haven't got a certain sense of sanctity.
	And we're not equal.
	Yeah, that's inequality.
	Fundamentally, that's the most unequal thing.
	Back to the story, this is just demonstrating the fact that this has gone on for ages, which is probably the reason why we're all just like, yeah, of course the West is run by a penal elite.
	More news at 10!
	So this is ABC.
	This was hidden footage.
	Yeah, this was years ago.
	Yeah, and which lady says that she had the evidence on Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, and Alan Dershowitz, she says here, being implicated.
	And she was threatened by the palace, of all things, she says.
	And then the studio were just like, yeah, no, we're not running this story.
	And then obviously it all came out.
	It's just like, what the hell?
	Everyone knew.
	Also just wanted to mention this Bill Clinton statue, Age Like Milk.
	This is in Kosovo.
	And the Kosovars really love Bill Clinton.
	They even wrote a song about how he's the best friend of the Kosovars and whatnot.
	So the Kosovar Muslims might want to play that one down, is all I'm saying, because that didn't go down well after all this.
	But again, I mean, it's just like the Norm Macdonald joke, people who haven't seen it.
	He went on The View a while back and was just like, the president's a murderer.
	You didn't know that?
	There's just rumors, of course.
	Yeah.
	But they get all upset and now it's just like, ah, the president was a pedo.
	You didn't know?
	No, no.
	He just had 37 friends who committed suicide.
	Don't worry about it.
	Who doesn't?
	Yeah.
	But that's, that's business as usual, I suppose.
	Um, I suppose this is also business as usual, but the scariest part of all of this is that vanity fair problem I mentioned earlier.
	Yeah.
	Because I'll take an example, just one outlet, MSNBC.
	Their response to this, Is just to talk about Donald Trump for some reason.
	Donald Trump named in Epstein docs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Named as someone who didn't do anything.
	Well, you can see the downvotes.
	I mean, this didn't convince many people, thankfully.
	I mean, literally, doesn't she literally say, no, I had no interaction with Donald Trump.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, we've got the bloody thing.
	John, I don't know if you can type in Donald Trump's name there.
	Trump, I guess.
	But Donald Trump is the best way to do it, I believe.
	And it does come up, in which there is one mention of him, as you can see here, in which they ask him... Did you have a massage with Donald Trump?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Did these people turn up?
	I don't know about that name.
	George Lucas?
	No.
	So Star Wars is kosher.
	Donald Trump?
	No.
	Okay.
	Donald Trump named in Epstein docs.
	Yeah.
	Did you have a massage with Donald Trump?
	No.
	It wasn't there.
	I guess he was, yeah.
	Good point.
	So, I mean, I'm sort of disgusted by how bad this is.
	Because maybe you don't hate journalists enough, meme is true.
	But here we go.
	They have on screen here just a bunch of images of Donald Trump with Bill Clinton.
	So Donald Trump looks worse.
	And then they just were like, yeah, he's in the files.
	Trust me, bro.
	Bad guy.
	So when Epstein went to jail, I did a big deep dive into it.
	And it turns out that Trump and Epstein were friends until about 1999.
	when they had a falling out of a property.
	Um, and then in like 2003, Donald Trump basically starts coming and going, by the way, I think there's something a bit dodgy about this Epstein guy.
	He might be a nonce actually.
	So Trump was actually like one of the first.
	It's on video.
	Yeah.
	It's just like, there's something really wrong there.
	Yeah.
	And then over the years he's continued beating that drum.
	Uh, but of course it's not gonna make him any more popular in the elite circles in which they're traveling.
	But you would have thought that track record, being the guy who called him out, would mean that you're probably the best-positioned person in the elite to be anti-pedo.
	I mean, one of the former presidents was pro-pedo, so... There's a dichotomy, but no!
	Not even wrong!
	MSNBC... It's not even wrong!
	Yeah.
	We shouldn't be able to say that.
	So MSNBC did this segment.
	I mean, I love this.
	They just have on-screen here, old friend.
	No one else.
	Don't think about the other guy.
	He was... He was friends.
	And as you can see here, they say... Look at his expression.
	That is the expression of a man who's telling you the truth, isn't it?
	That's not the expression of someone who's clearly lying to your face.
	He's got the evil eye.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Sorry, villain.
	Why would I... Sorry, go on.
	But you can see, though, that the headline is just hilarious.
	There's only one anti-Epstein candidate, and it's not Trump or JFK Jr.
	Do you want to guess who it is?
	It's not Joe Biden.
	Of course it's Joe Biden.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Joe the child sniffer Biden.
	He's the Andy Epstein guy.
	They have nothing in common.
	Nothing whatsoever.
	He only showers with his 14 year old daughter.
	Don't worry about it, bro.
	I know that the news media is just propaganda, but this is so low quality and low effort at this point.
	I was just like, yeah, Joe Biden.
	Noted not child lover.
	Don't trust Donald Trump.
	And then this.
	I mean, it's so... Don't trust Donald Trump.
	He was trying to put child traffickers in jail.
	Yeah.
	And they even went on to make a whole bunch of shorts about this.
	So this is one of the shorts here.
	And this short is titled, The MAGA Obsession with Jeffrey Epstein is at odds with the Trump Ties.
	In which he just berates about how Trump once knew him.
	And then no one else.
	Doesn't mention anyone else.
	Doesn't mention how Trump continually threw Epstein under the bus.
	Yes.
	Because that's not important.
	There we are.
	I just... that's... that's mad.
	But the problem is, of course, that you can search Trump's name to itself.
	I've just done it.
	There you are.
	It's bollocks.
	Someone asked a question about Donald Trump.
	Yeah.
	And it wasn't just MSNBC.
	I saw every other left-wing news outlet.
	All just had Donald Trump in their headlines.
	No reasons.
	Fine.
	Liars be liars, I guess.
	But weirdly enough, he's not actually the one that got the most social media attention.
	Can you guess who?
	I wouldn't have guessed this either.
	Stephen Hawking.
	He was the only one anyone cared about for some reason.
	Isn't the midget thing legit?
	No, that's a fake screenshot.
	So for people who don't know, there's a screenshot, a fake one of the deposition, where they're talking about how Hawking liked to have sex with midgets.
	So, quick thing here.
	and get them to write on a whiteboard or something yeah he would get them to write on a blackboard in chalk that was too tall for them which is a good joke a quick thing here in defense of scientists and intellectuals who went and spent time with Jeffrey Epstein um - Yeah.
	This does not necessarily implicate them all as being nonces.
	Nah, science people are just money hungry.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They need money.
	And Epstein thought of himself as some sort of great genius.
	And so what he would do is he would basically pay for all these scientists to get privately flown over to various islands.
	And he would hang out, wine and dine them to try and make himself feel like some sort of important intellectual person.
	And so there are actually loads of people you'd know, like Neil deGrasse Tyson and like Stephen Pinker and stuff like that, who have been to his parties.
	That doesn't mean they're part of the network.
	I mean, they might be.
	I'm not saying not, right?
	But that's how someone like Stephen Hawking comes to be on Epstein's Island, right?
	And like you say, they need money.
	He's got lots of money.
	So it's a vanity project for him.
	But all of that has been lost on Twitter.
	No one cared.
	Instead, it just turned into memes like this.
	You've got Stephen Hawking there.
	As soon as he arrives on the island, happy to go.
	There we are.
	So there's just endless memes about that in that fashion.
	So I'll just leave that there.
	Here he is on the island.
	So there's the evidence of that.
	He isn't even really mentioned.
	Oh no, he is mentioned, actually.
	I tell a lie.
	series of documents that were released.
	There's one email which alleges what he did.
	So this is an allegation that he wasn't just a scientist getting money.
	He was instead actually engaging in pedophilia.
	The man couldn't move.
	How did he?
	I'm not saying he didn't.
	It's weird, isn't it?
	Someone with paralysis is also a pedo.
	You don't put that together.
	I mean, okay, fair enough.
	Nothing impossible about it.
	Truth is stranger than fiction, I guess.
	So this is the email, and this is an email from Jeffrey Epstein, in which he's talking about how they need to shut down Virginia Guthrie, one of the witnesses, and her claims.
	Because, as he says here, Can you issue a reward to any of Virginia's friends, acquaintance, family that have come forward and helped prove her allegations are false?
	The strongest is the Clinton Dinner.
	I don't know what that is.
	And the new version in the Virgin Islands.
	I don't know what that's about either.
	And then he says, that Stephen Hawking patricianed an underage orgy.
	So, presumably partook in an underage orgy.
	Yeah.
	Because a bunch of the spelling in this is just garbled.
	Atrocious.
	So, that is apparently a real email he sent in 2015.
	What is the Clinton Dinner?
	I don't know.
	That's where they eat the children, presumably.
	I don't know what to say.
	It's just a bit of spirit cooking, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm trying to laugh at this because otherwise I'd cry, but sincerely, I mean, this is awful.
	Everything about this is disgusting.
	And we'll end this off with an aspect of that, which as you can see here, this person's been like, man, the jokes are jokes, but man, this is messed up.
	So as you can see here, I mean, Jeffrey Epstein with a sleeping child on his lap on the Lolita Express.
	I mean, everything about him in his life screamed paedophile.
	Yeah.
	Why would you name your jet Lolita Express?
	It wasn't named that, it was a nickname they gave it.
	Oh, okay.
	Believe in that.
	It was nicknamed like the pilots gave it.
	Okay.
	So.
	I mean, can you, I can't even imagine what it was like being a pilot.
	It's like, right.
	So Jeffrey Epstein's got a bunch of children and Bill Clinton, seven, uh, 27 times or something like that.
	And it's like, right.
	And I'm just going to fly.
	It's like, really?
	You can't, I mean, okay.
	I'm sure he's paying amazing, but I'm going to TMZ.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm just, I don't know.
	I wouldn't be able to live myself.
	Man, messed up, but that's the weird thing about all this story for me, is that it's nothing anyone didn't expect, really.
	And, um, I suppose that's the worst part about it.
	But I tell you, you are totally right about the families, though.
	Just protect your children.
	Those can you do.
	Right, well, let's have some more fun, shall we?
	Some more fun?
	Some actual fun.
	Oh, some actual fun, yeah.
	So, the Indian Conspiracy.
	Now, this is something I've not told either of you about, so I haven't explained it, so this might... I can already see your face!
	There were rats running around.
	There's a rat there!
	So this is Indian street food that we'll be talking about today, and it's appreciated the world over.
	Even non-humans appreciate Indian street food.
	I'll get this a bit bigger so people can see it.
	There's rats everywhere.
	Are you going to tell me this isn't real?
	No, this is real.
	We're going to tell you India's not real.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Not that India's not real, but this is a setup.
	No.
	I was expecting you to be like, yeah, this is just a way of freaking out the foreigners or something.
	Now, it turns out India's a real place and it's quite bad.
	It's got some real downsides.
	I mean, there's a reason that their average salaries are so low.
	It's because they're bloody poor.
	Well, yeah, but like, you can be poor and not have rats eating your food.
	You can.
	Not this family, though.
	Different problems.
	So this is a guy making God knows what.
	And yeah, Indian street food has got a bit of a reputation internationally.
	And I think this is another case of, remember when we talked about the ceiling bird?
	Yeah.
	So this is the smoke detector in black American households.
	No one knew about that, and then the internet happened.
	And then everyone started noticing that certain internet users had a ceiling bird and others didn't.
	Well, I think the whole world has now discovered that a certain country is a bit mental when it comes to food hygiene.
	Yeah.
	And of course, this is one example, but it goes on.
	I mean, this one's quite funny.
	This is, um, Indian ice cream from one vendor.
	He's, uh, working hard.
	There we are.
	Pouring ice in a... I don't know what that is.
	Barrel to compact it.
	Something's not reacting.
	Does this not fill you with confidence?
	Do you think that thing's ever been cleaned?
	laughs Uh...
	So there's ice on the inside, so he's now taking fruit, shoving it on the outside.
	I think we've washed our hands.
	I think he's gonna use his hand to do that Very happy about it Not the greatest example.
	How does this come out as ice cream?
	Well, he's going to finish it in a minute there.
	I love it.
	Gloves aren't illegal in this place.
	You cut the fruit off after it's formed and then you give it to someone like that.
	There we are.
	Don't do that.
	I mean, there's other people discussing whether or not the hands add flavour to the food.
	Would you eat this, Jess?
	No.
	Why not?
	Go on, explain yourself.
	I'm only the pickiest eater there is.
	Like, I can barely have toast.
	My dream meal is a ham and cheese sandwich.
	Anything like this is just too far.
	But you know what, the 5 second rule, I'd extend it to the 10 second rule, and this goes beyond what I'd accept.
	10 seconds of hand rubbing and then it's kosher.
	I thought you were going to go a different direction though.
	I thought you were going to be like, well I don't like Brussels sprouts, so finger canals.
	Maybe a bit worse.
	But anyway, point being, Indian street food, Yeah, it's not the cleanest in the world.
	And I had a bit of an example of this in Afghanistan.
	We saw the street food there.
	Just as a quick aside, it's cracking me up, the ethnicities that are mocking the Indians.
	It's like, sorry, I wouldn't eat any Asian food either.
	I certainly wouldn't eat anything from Africa.
	That is indeed your position.
	And that's the funny thing, because of course, this is a real problem.
	It's not made up.
	And the internet existing means that now everyone knows, which doesn't just include Westerners, of course, because the internet's everywhere.
	These are funny parodies, though.
	These are great.
	So as you can see, some Indians and Africans making fun of that.
	And it just sort of blew up.
	So you can see Africans here making fun of it.
	Yeah.
	These are some Kenyans making fun of Indian street food, where they're just throwing slop on slop with their hands.
	Throwing in water for no reason.
	Yeah, swipe your face, no.
	Okay, good bantz.
	Good bantz, boys.
	And as you can see, Drutka here has made, like, a compilation.
	So there's even more here.
	High Indian sounds to non-speakers in which it's... That's enough.
	But that's Africans making fun of Indians there.
	And, uh, it goes on and on.
	I mean, this is some guy's TikTok of his first day in India.
	There's some street food there.
	And, um, the African chap is not best impressed.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Understandable.
	Still a picky eater?
	Getting pickier by the moment, I imagine.
	What compels them to do that?
	Like, surely they know about germ theory and... I don't know if it's, um... Maybe they just have massively strong immune systems?
	Well, they must have.
	Like, immune system like a bloody crocodile to be able to survive this.
	But, like, I'm coming to the point.
	Notice how hurried they are when they're doing it?
	They're like, no, no, gotta get it done.
	It's got, like, two billion people's feed.
	So, you know...
	No, no, it doesn't matter.
	Just swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap, swap.
	Look, there are 500,000 people who are coming to my vendor.
	That's gotta be it.
	When you've got that many potential customers.
	You've just got to hurry up.
	You don't need to.
	There's also this guy.
	We were joking where he's making some African street food here.
	Compared to Indian street food.
	And let's see which one we prefer, I suppose.
	So you can see here, he's got some bread.
	The knife looks clean.
	I don't see any rats and he's wearing gloves.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Is that all you need to see?
	That's literally all I need to see.
	But I'm not a very picky eater, to be honest.
	No, he's having something there.
	Sausage wrap.
	Looks perfectly respectable.
	Yeah.
	I don't know where this is going for the Indian food where it's going to be in a minute or is he just he's literally just showing off actually never mind His entire TikTok is just, look at me make food.
	We have invented hygiene.
	So, I mean, this is a thing, is what I'm trying to prove there.
	So I don't think any Indian could say this doesn't exist or some such.
	I've seen far too many videos for it to not be a thing.
	But what's funny is you may have noticed, though, that African stuff, that's very recent.
	And so did a lot of Indians notice that very recently a lot of Africans are making fun of them in this particular way.
	Bloody bastards!
	So, yes, bloody, bloody.
	They've got suspicions.
	So, there you are.
	Even Africa is making fun of Indian street food.
	There's another one here.
	It's got a leg in the... Which, yeah, good bantz, good bantz.
	Here's the Indian.
	Anyway, sorry, carry on.
	I like the flavour.
	Oh, Jesus.
	John just said he's seen an Indian do that.
	Okay.
	I just reminded him that me.
	It was like, white people don't season their food.
	But either way.
	I did used to live with an Indian guy, and he would never use cutlery.
	He used his hands?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He just uses his fingers every single time.
	And I was just like...
	I mean, I didn't...
	You know, it didn't seem excessively grossed.
	It's your own hand, right?
	As long as it's clean.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, I mean, you know, I've eaten food in my own hands.
	It was just weird that he would just refuse to use colouring.
	Not even chopsticks.
	But either way.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not to be too mean.
	I mean, slight mean, which is sort yourselves out, but yeah, problem.
	A problem that is funny.
	But the Indians took this in a different way.
	This guy says, my entire TikTok algorithm these days has suddenly become videos of people from Kenya making fun of Indian street food.
	Some kind of psychological warfare against India is happening.
	China's like, right, we've won in the West.
	They're all degenerate.
	Now we need to destroy the Indians.
	Yeah, so which do we think is most likely?
	That maybe the domestic production of food is actually a bit unhygienic, or it's a mass Chinese psy-op?
	Honestly, I'm kind of 50-50.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	I believe the Chinese have got wacky psyops.
	I don't think they even have to try that hard for this one.
	I think this is a naturally occurring... Maybe.
	...circumstance.
	50-50.
	But if this was just one guy, I mean, he's right to be the interceptor, he, uh... I would always say, like, someone literate shouldn't be this conspiratorial, but whatever.
	He's not the only one, because this went off.
	You can see on Reddit here, this blew up on an Indian show, in which they're saying, I've been noticing of late... Say it in an Indian accent.
	I can't do it!
	Bloody bloody!
	I have been noticing of late!
	I'm joking!
	Right, I'll do it in a nice imperialist.
	Um, that so many big internationally famous handles all of a sudden have started targeting India and mostly in the same way.
	Ooh, Druk's an internationally famous handle.
	Yeah, good boy.
	This doesn't look very normal or casually made post.
	What do you think can be the reason?
	And then Dushashe or Shahe over there, which, yep.
	Yeah, I don't think it's a conspiracy, but the Indians do.
	So, we've got this to deal with now.
	As Droka says, some Indians now believe there's a secret coordinated attack on India's international reputation.
	How do I join it?
	Well, you go to India with a smartphone and you film.
	Jess, what about you?
	You up for it?
	I'd take the task.
	Can we get you to do some Vox Pops?
	I would actually think they'd be brilliant.
	How many seconds should you wash your hands?
	How many times a day?
	Before or after making the footage.
	Will you be up for that, actually?
	I think I could be.
	Good content.
	On the cards.
	But this isn't the only one.
	You've got this guy here as well.
	There's some Pakistani making fun of Indian, so of course.
	Yeah, that's a Pakistani conspiracy as well.
	Ah, yes.
	Lots of Africans are suddenly mocking Indian street food.
	What could be the reason?
	India is competing with China for the African market superpower by 2020.
	Is China paying some African influencers to damage India's reputation?
	No.
	No, I really don't think it is.
	And I think this is another stealing bird.
	It's a pretty cheap conspiracy to buy into though, right?
	So you don't have to spend a lot of money to persuade Africans to make mocking TikToks of Indian street food.
	Well, it worked for African prices.
	Maybe we should do that.
	You know the Fiverr guys?
	Yeah.
	You give them five bucks.
	Yeah.
	And then there were loads of Africans that signed up to that because that's like, you know, two years salary.
	Yeah.
	So maybe we should.
	Maybe it could be a British sign up against the Indians to destroy their reputation.
	I suppose doing it already.
	But this did remind me, this whole scenario, of something a bit more spicy.
	So this is, well, Black versus Indian Twitter, but Black Twitter here being African this time around.
	Right, so African Twitter.
	Black Twitter implies American Twitter.
	But do you know the battle of Black Twitter versus Indian Twitter?
	No, I'm not very well connected to either.
	There was a deadly battle back in the day.
	It was awful for all involved, and we dare not speak of it if we can, for those who know.
	And what happened?
	is that an African American did one tweet where they had some Indians in a nightclub and it's very overcrowded and someone's saying, this is great.
	And this African American chat responded, I know it smell crazy in there.
	This got 23,000 quote tweets.
	90% of them from Indian accounts.
	And it sort of went a bit like this.
	Well, at the end of it, there was a full-blown race war going on, and I've had to censor an example of one of those quote-tweets that became the most famous, with a few ADL logos, for the obvious reason.
	So this is Pongo, a lovely Indian lady.
	Jesus Christ!
	Do I even want to read any of that?
	No.
	Yes.
	You can read.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this was bad, to say the least.
	You are, whatever, Indian army will kill you, whatever, by the bushel.
	I don't even know what that means.
	Well, no, no, no.
	What that means is we're going to kill lots and lots of you.
	Okay, by the bushel?
	Who uses that phrase?
	Probably a 19th century British coloniser.
	All I'm saying is, liberalism didn't take hold in these places.
	Yeah, it really, really did not.
	I'm kind of curious what the last word is.
	It's the same as the first one I've had to censor, so that first letter might give you a hint.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And the thing is, this is not unrepresentative of the quote tease.
	Like, I remember when this happened and people still talk about it because it's just such a funny moment.
	It's like, I mean, can you not take a bit of banter about your country?
	No, no, they did not at the time.
	And I don't know what the response will be to this, except more conspiracy theising about how China is trying to get one over.
	I suppose I'll find out.
	But I'll end this off, because I do worry if you do take up the offer of going to India, that you may end up like someone else, because there were some Westerners who ran into a different sort of meme interaction, which is this image.
	Yeah, I've seen this.
	This is iHypocrite.
	So this is Matteo and Lissana.
	It's a couple that go traveling together and make travel videos.
	1.7 million views.
	I beg you to get me out of here, India!
	With her crying on the thumbnail there.
	30 minutes.
	They ended up deleting this video because of the response.
	Similar quote tweets, it turns out.
	I've seen a few videos of Western travelers talking about their experiences in India.
	You know what's really weird in Afghanistan is there's a weird hierarchy that you would not expect because you think, okay, India, pretty reasonable power.
	You know, low salaries and whatnot.
	Then you've got Pakistan.
	I mean, recently they've gone right into being a disaster zone, the floods and everything.
	But then you've got Afghanistan and Afghanistan is that place that's been at war for 20 odd years.
	People die every day, there's bombs, there's ISIS, blah, blah, blah.
	And I noticed in Afghanistan, they make jokes about Pakistan and India.
	They think they're better than both of them?
	You know how we think we're better than the French?
	We are better than the French.
	True.
	But they literally sit around going, oh god, at least I'm not Pakistani.
	Tell me about the Afghan street food.
	Similar looks, but then again, I didn't see anyone using their hands to, you know, season it or anything like that.
	What about a foot?
	The foot?
	No foots.
	No single armpits.
	I mean, I had some, and I didn't get the problem.
	So, yeah, Afghans, maybe they are better, actually.
	Maybe they're right.
	But either way, madness, to say the least.
	I thought I'd just mention what happened to that video in question.
	Someone saved it.
	It's literally just 30 minutes of her crying in between footage of where they went.
	It doesn't look that bad to me.
	She didn't seem to like it.
	It's just an average place, which, you know, isn't the cleanest.
	It's a bit chaotic.
	I mean, if you're going to go traveling to India, I don't know what you're expecting exactly.
	I've watched a video the other day of this guy who went to India and he was like, yeah, so it was disgusting.
	I saw some dead bodies.
	I saw some disgusting stuff.
	So I decided to go to the beach and I found a really secluded area of the beach.
	It was just me on the beach.
	I was like, right, okay, finally I can just relax and enjoy the sun.
	And he was there for like 20 minutes before some guy just came shuffling along from beyond the rocks, went out to the sea and just pulled down his pants.
	Wow!
	Did he find me?
	To go and take a dump in front of me?
	Walk directly in front and do it at the... It's like, I just... I'm just... I'm just... Okay, bro.
	I can't comprehend doing that!
	No.
	I don't know how it works!
	I just... I can't imagine just going out onto the surf and just, right, okay, here I am.
	Anyway, what do I know?
	But anyway, I haven't been to India.
	I'm sure it's lovely, but it is a different place, to say the least.
	And I don't know what the response will be to this newest Black Twitter vs. Indian Twitter war.
	But we'll find out, I guess.
	I hope it's not like the last two.
	But either way, maybe it's a conspiracy.
	Right, now onto the topic I really wanted to talk about.
	Trad Thoughts!
	Yes?
	There's been a calendar.
	It's like a meteor hitting the Earth.
	The most mediocre of controversies.
	Yeah.
	That completely sailed over me.
	And then it blew up even more.
	And I was just like, really?
	I'm friends with a lot of American conservatives.
	And for like two weeks, this is all they talked about over Christmas.
	And I was just like... Do you not have a Christmas to get on with?
	Yeah, I know.
	It was literally my entire feed was mediocre, unprovocative calendar is the worst thing to ever happen to the right.
	So this is what we're talking about.
	And I wanted to get your guys' opinions on this, I suppose.
	Controversy as well of all that it was.
	This is the Ultra Right Company over here.
	They're basically just people who make stuff for right-wingers to be like, you're supporting the right because you brought our beers or mugs or whatever else, right?
	And they decided to make this calendar here for 25 buckaroos.
	The Real Women of America 2024.
	And then here the image is.
	Ah damn, can I not make that bigger?
	Oh well, this might be a bit difficult if I can't.
	There we are.
	It's not the best way to do it.
	There we are, perfect.
	So, here we are.
	This is the months, and the ladies involved, and what they wore.
	There was a woman in a bikini with one of their beers.
	Just to be clear, Americans invented the bikini.
	Did they?
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did.
	Is that true?
	Maybe.
	It came to me in a dream.
	Came to me just now as a vision.
	But I'm sure they did.
	I'll have to look it up.
	Let us know.
	There's a lady here burning the New York Times.
	Yeah, I've been on her show.
	All right.
	She's normal.
	Wearing a dress.
	Yeah.
	Like I saw people being like, Oh my God, Sarah Gonzalez is wearing like, like as if it was some sort of pornographic outfit.
	I'm like, that's pretty tame.
	And then there's Dana Loesch here.
	Fully clothed, right?
	With some guns and a t-shirt.
	And then someone working out.
	And I will admit, actually, there isn't.
	I'll tell that later.
	In fact, there's a lady here with her pie and an apron.
	She caused a lot of controversy because she's got legs.
	There's Ashley St.
	Clair here, who I suppose is the most revealing of those.
	I mean, I can see cleavage.
	I guess.
	I'm not a member of ISIS, so I don't really...
	I'm sorry, I didn't really get this one.
	I just was a bit confused.
	It was like, isn't this America?
	Like, don't people have pinup girls since, I don't know, the 30s?
	That's what I mean.
	I'm sure America invented the bikini.
	So this seems like very obviously America, right?
	I mean, I think that one in particular is a bit pushing it.
	I think with the Riley Gaines one, sure, she's a swimmer, it makes sense.
	But there is sort of an obvious sexualisation of a lot of these calendar models of women.
	I think women inherently to men are sort of sexualised.
	Even just looking at women, women are attractive beings to men.
	But it is true that obviously you're exaggerating some of that with her being in the bath.
	That is something else.
	But again, I'm not looking at this and thinking porn.
	Yeah.
	On a scale of one to 10, this is a solid two or three.
	I don't know.
	Here we go.
	There's some more here.
	I mean, you are, you are right.
	I'll agree with you on that, which, you know, having your tits out whilst sitting by the sink.
	Okay.
	This woman here, like, I mean, I mean that one there, I don't like, come on.
	Like, I, you know, I agree that maybe when women go to the gym, maybe they shouldn't be wearing lingerie, but this isn't actually that indecent.
	I mean, yeah, this one, I mean, that's kind of... Yeah, suggestively.
	That's kind of pornographic.
	Yeah.
	It's a beach, that's... This doesn't make me go, cover up you slut.
	Is all I'm thinking.
	Where is her burka?
	Well, that's a good question though.
	And I should have brought more to sell.
	Anyway, but you can see that one there as well, which is a swimsuit.
	Maybe it's just because I grew up in the 90s, man.
	And this was like... Old advertising.
	Yeah.
	Back in the good old days.
	Yeah.
	But the thing is, you can't actually see anything.
	Like everything relevant is sufficiently covered.
	And most of it is done by implication.
	I'm going to get something if I can that my brother sent me.
	I don't know if I can get WhatsApp below properly.
	I really should have included this.
	I completely forgot about it.
	Someone decided to film Albanian TV, the news and the weather.
	Oh yeah, what about Mexican weather?
	Mexican weather?
	Have you not seen the Mexican weather girls?
	John, pull that up.
	No, no, no, no, John.
	You can't pull that up.
	The Mexican weather girls are basically pornography.
	And South American Weather Girls, generally.
	It's basically pornography.
	You'll have to look it up after the podcast when you go home.
	I was hoping that would be... I thought it would be a good point of comparison to this whole thing.
	So, in case you're wondering, this calendar got released.
	That's the story, right?
	Okay, no, I think you can get some of these up, Jon.
	Carl's looking.
	Right.
	Only Fans Presents Mexican Weather Programs.
	Yeah.
	Technically, they're all covered.
	I mean, that one is funny.
	But, I did see someone compare Iraqi weather station girls to Swedish, and the Swedish one was wearing a niqab, and the Iraqi one was wearing a dress like this.
	Which, I don't know the rest, but either way.
	We get to do Islam right.
	But here's the thing, I mean, this is a response.
	So, handing over and playing with your cards there.
	New conservative pin-up calendar girl, what do you think?
	Whoa, very nice.
	Pick them up with 100% woke ultra-free right beers yesterday.
	Trad swimsuit.
	That's Riley Gaines.
	She thinks trans men shouldn't compete in women's sports.
	That's just like... I don't get the downsides?
	This confused me a bit, is all I'm saying.
	It's because they're not appropriately covered up like a 50s housewife wearing a dress.
	That's what this is about.
	But then the red libertarian girl kind of was.
	But either way, this whole controversy... Yeah, apart from the ones that were, okay?
	This started off with more of a female critique.
	This didn't actually run into the right-wing male side, but it started off with ladies like this, saying, you could probably guess what I think about the calendar branded for conservative dads filled with pictures of women.
	Many of them married and many of them very scantily clad.
	I hate it.
	I also find the discourse ridiculous.
	You are the dad in the room.
	You're virtue-signalling to the discourse!
	As if we're all supposed to pretend we don't understand the purpose of the calendar of posed, full-body pictures of women.
	You can call me a prude, puritanical, or jealous of these women's beauty, whatever makes you feel better.
	I just don't see the value in marketing what's basically, in some photos, softcore porn to married or unmarried men.
	Of course, I think the women are gorgeous, and blah blah blah.
	I think there is like this really weird instinct for women to just hate another woman.
	And I think they sort of rationalize it.
	They use some sort of rationalization.
	Oh, I think they're very pretty and everything.
	Like I have many conservative... Sluts.
	Yeah.
	I have many female conservative friends and the actual barrier of what they consider conservative or not is so arbitrary.
	And I think it actually comes from what they consider comfortable rather than what they actually think is conservative.
	I think there is an argument to dress modestly and if women want to dress modestly, that's fine.
	I'm for that as a conservative.
	But I think what our perception of modesty is, for one in the West, women are given so many options of what to wear.
	If you go in any mainstream store, it is quite provocative.
	If you look at what models are wearing, what actresses are wearing, there are mixed messages for women.
	So it is hard to be a conservative woman or a woman alone.
	Controversial opinion, but I think it's true.
	I agree with Jess, bring back the burka.
	I did have one.
	I don't know, I've asked John if we can load up the previous link because there's a response from the women in question in which the women who took part are basically having that response where they're like, I don't own a burka, so I'm very sorry, but I'll bring it back.
	I don't know if you can get that one, John, or not.
	It's just above the one we're currently looking at, the Sarah Gonzalez thing, because she was one of the ladies in question, the one burning the New York Times newspaper.
	And she just responds with saying, I've been reliably informed that I'm demonic for doing this.
	Okay.
	She seemed like a normal person when I met her.
	She didn't seem much like a demon.
	Didn't investigate far enough.
	I thought women equaled Hitler, Carl.
	Yeah, well, they do, but that's not demon.
	Okay.
	Well, Hitler's a man, I presume.
	Okay, yeah.
	But this went on, and you can see...
	The red-headed libertarian was just posting this one.
	Can we not give a more substantive critique?
	As in, okay, this actually isn't a great photo, right?
	The lighting is too strong, so everyone's faces and features are washed out.
	We've got a white background with some white paper on the background and white things.
	Like, you could have a much more interesting actual photo.
	Yeah.
	The can looks like it can be very easily knocked over.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Just so small details are really annoying me.
	But it's not that I can see some of her legs.
	I think it is a bit larpy though.
	I mean in another tweet she's like, I'm not a conservative but it's like you're posing as a trad wife.
	I don't, I think there is, there's a room for idealism and you know saying it's good to be a stay-at-home wife or it's good to like serve your family as a woman and a mother.
	There is that but I do think this is a bit larpy and it's just going on them ideals of what it means to be a trad wife.
	This whole thing's really hilarious like he's not paying any attention to her at all.
	He's just, it is a bit strange.
	He looks like a robot, like the Terminator.
	She's trying to like, okay, I'll give him dinner.
	You know that coloury thing you do?
	Like what is going on?
	It's so unnatural, you know?
	Yeah, but that conservative aspect, I think that really is the point of discussion.
	Because that lady from earlier, I mean, she ends it off, that critique, in which her problem, and I find this a lot, I don't think it's a small thing, where she says, the polarization between the Christian and secular conservatism is only going to grow, my friends, so buckle up.
	And I find this a lot whenever we talk about pornography or something.
	There's a very, I think, small proportion, really, of people who get quite offended by these things or very concerned about them and I don't really get them because I mean like you mentioned she says she's not conservative or she isn't she says she's a libertarian yeah and I don't know if that means that she can't do this like a libertarian should be allowed to do this well this is the the What do you think about this?
	The concept of trad wife, traditional wife, traditional roles, traditional modesty, and therefore the kind of fashion you wear that's appealing is in a certain way rather than whorish, a different type of fashion, right?
	Why is that exclusive to ideology?
	I mean, just because socialists are all mental and do mental stuff.
	I mean, yeah, I don't know why everyone else has to be kicked out.
	I don't think that's true.
	I think our idea of what trad means as well is kind of skewed.
	Like, I have a conservative friend.
	She is actually conservative, but her definition of conservative, she thinks being in a monogamous relationship is traditional.
	It's like, most people I know in a monogamous relationship... I mean, on a technicality, she's right.
	But substantively, that doesn't mean a lot.
	Yeah.
	Where does she live out of interest?
	Like, the city?
	Reading.
	Reading, oh god, okay, so out of London.
	Yeah.
	So, I do worry about that.
	I just see a lot of this as being a manifestation of, like, American Puritanism.
	Do you remember the country was founded by Puritans?
	Yeah, I mean, you can see Jordan here having a laugh.
	It's like, there you are, fixed it.
	Yeah.
	No problems now.
	And it's not to say that there isn't, like, an extreme on either end, obviously there is, and that would be one extreme, and the other extreme is, of course, I would kind of like to see a burka pin up now though.
	these days, but the one with the painted on costume, it's like she's naked.
	What is she doing in this gym?
	Yeah, she's a whore.
	But there is, I think, a fairly reasonable middle ground of it's okay to have a sort of pinup calendar that isn't too racy, and none of that was racy, really.
	You know, that's fine.
	It's a small thing that dads do because they're married.
	I would kind of like to see a Berka pinup now, though.
	Do you not think that'd be a laugh?
	I mean, you may as well.
	I just found it interesting.
	to make it, but they've got to make it like trad wifey still.
	I don't know what you have to do with that, but that's a challenge.
	It's an issue to any of our Islamic viewers.
	Good luck, boys.
	But anyway, um...
	I don't know what this one is, I said this is what he wants.
	Yeah.
	I just found it interesting.
	Again, it's like...
	Like I said, women are given mixed messages, and again you have autonomy over what you do.
	But there are lots of women who have just recently realised the sector of evolution, maybe it's not a good thing.
	And because they've They participated in the sex revolution and their body count is probably a bit higher than the trads like to have.
	They're sort of ostracized for that and I think that's just unhelpful especially since society gives such a mixed message.
	I think there should be redemption and again it's like all these so-called trad accounts They've sort of lost that Christian aspect of it, of forgiveness, of redemption, and I don't know, again, it's like LARP-y.
	I think everything is so LARP-y about this.
	The calendar's LARP-y, and then the people criticising them are LARP-y.
	It's just all, it's just a nothing burger, I'd say.
	I imagine very few of these people are living in any way.
	All the Anons criticizing all the women posing sexily.
	I think very few people in their actual daily lives actually live in these ways at all.
	There's nothing really authentic that underpins it, like you're saying.
	It's all a larp.
	It's like a larp for Twitter.
	They wouldn't be on Twitter if they're actually living traditionally.
	Well, I mean, I don't think that's... You know, I think... What are you, the Amish?
	Yeah, they don't have to be like, yeah, Amish or anything.
	But like, you know, there's definitely sort of a lack of substance, right?
	Like, the Anons who are going, ah, you're not dressing as a trad wife, so do your...
	you're playing Call of Duty all the time and smoking weed and sitting there whining on Twitter, blah, blah, blah.
	And then the women aren't doing slutty things, really.
	They're just like, oh, I posed for a thing because I thought I was helping conservatism or whatever.
	They're married, they have kids, they get on with their lives, right?
	And so it's just like no one's really doing any of the things they're showing any of the things they actually do here.
	But anyway.
	What do you think about that redemption aspect?
	I mean, what, because there's two sides of that with the You have the side that's like, no, you've made your decisions and that's your life.
	You can't undo what you've done.
	And then as you're illustrating here, well, that side of it, you've now got a Bible and a dress.
	But then there's also the whole LARPing thing.
	I mean, she's not.
	She's a libertarian.
	She's not even trying to be conservative.
	But if you LARP it until it's just you, do you think that's real?
	Again, it's what actually makes a trad wife.
	Is it just wearing an apron and maybe delivering your husband and family food?
	Making your family food?
	That is an actual core of what makes a good wife and mother.
	I think when it's not just the aesthetics, when it's not just a picture on social media.
	There's this blonde woman who always does trad wife videos.
	That's a bit larpy, but I'm sure she actually lives like that.
	Yeah, and also that's obviously a fetish as well, because if you look at the dead center of the screen, it's breast.
	She always has her boobs as the dead center of the screen.
	I know the one you're talking about.
	Anyway, sorry.
	It's interesting how you call that a fetish.
	Yeah, but a woman can be covered up and also be revealing, right?
	Every woman knows that when she's wearing an ultra-tight shirt, Yeah, yeah.
	Insane.
	She knows she's doing that for a reason, right?
	You can do it because it looks nice, you know, for the girlies.
	I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'm saying that when you fill yourself and your chest is the very middle of the screen, not your face is the middle of the screen, your chest is the middle of the screen, you're wearing an ultra tight thing.
	You know what you're doing.
	Every woman knows what they're doing.
	I think it's interesting how you said like it's sort of a fetish thing because again, like a woman wearing a traditional outfit, that can be considered sexual.
	But also the women in like the conservative calendars, like again, it depends on the context.
	You know, if I wear a bikini at the beach, that's fine.
	But if I just go out in my underwear in public, everyone, I don't know, maybe today.
	Everyone freaks out.
	Everyone freaks out.
	I don't know.
	I don't know, it's a weird way to make any analysis on that because I think, really, two men, women are sexual beings, but regardless of what they're wearing, there's some way of sexualizing that.
	Because like you're saying, pick any type of outfit and there's some guy out there that's in the mood for that particular aesthetic, it seems.
	Should the responsibility be on the guy then rather than the woman?
	Because it's like the conservative dad thing, there's not much conversation around the actual dad seeing this.
	You know if you want to say it's like soft porn, why are these dads in families seeing this kind of thing if it's soft porn?
	Surely that should be the issue rather than the women who are posing for it really.
	The thing is, I always feel this argument's a bit like, well, I shouldn't have to lock my door because the onus is on the thief not to steal.
	It's like, I know, but he's a thief.
	You know?
	Like Ooga Booga, male brain, hot.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, yeah, men are stupid and horny.
	But if you get sexualized for everything?
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying there's an answer and I'm not saying it's a perfect world.
	I'm just saying I don't think we should put it on the guys to be like, yeah, you're not allowed.
	I mean, obviously there's a certain degree of that, but like, In the more immediate thing, if you dress sensibly, then, you know.
	I think it's just true of men and women, though.
	I'm going to tell that story I was going to mention earlier, because of the tightness of clothing.
	So, when I was in Afghanistan, you wear Afghan clothes, which are basically like the big pajama things that the Muslims wear.
	They wear their pajamas outside.
	That's wonderful.
	They're the best thing in the world.
	Honestly, you know how you wear your pajamas when you sat around your house?
	I don't know about pajamas, no.
	But imagine if everyone was doing that.
	And you can do it 24-7.
	It's the best way to live.
	Sincerely.
	Low standards.
	No, because everyone's doing it.
	It's all plain coloured.
	It looks normal and it's nothing weird about it.
	Once you do it for like a week, you become part of the brain, right?
	But also, I did notice that when I came back to the West, so I got the plane, I got off at the UAE to get my bag and we're getting on a plane to the UK.
	And I was waiting in line and the woman in front of me was just wearing very normal, like, you know, some trousers and a shirt.
	And I think it was more like a dress shirt.
	So you could see like the top of her cleavage.
	And because I've been in Afghanistan for a little while, I looked at her and went, what a whore.
	Why does she want me to have sex with her?
	Sincerely, a part of my brain said this, for instance, why does she want me to have sex with her?
	I can see the shape of a body, that whore.
	Yeah, unironically.
	And then I thought to myself, wait, have I gone mental?
	What's happened to me?
	But it is totally true, because then I got back and I'm wearing my normal male Western clothes, which is some jeans that, looking at them after wearing the baggy stuff, you're like, Jesus, I look like a whore.
	So are you suggesting that Afghan women are looking at Western men going, oh, look at these sluts?
	Sort of, yeah.
	And I don't see the gap between their thighs.
	Because I mean, at one point, after not seeing any woman in the Western context for a while, because on the day the Taliban parade was taking place, some journalist came from the Arab world, and it was a female journalist, and she was wearing her abaya.
	So it's still sort of baggy, but you could see the outline of her arse.
	It existed.
	And the guy we're with, one of our drivers, just went, oh, look at that!
	It's just, oh my god, Mohamed, yes, that's disgraceful.
	I'm just saying that there is a big difference between... What we do isn't actually that normal.
	Is it a bit strange that all of our clothes are so tight in the West?
	And that's men and women.
	So, anyway.
	Got no answers to this.
	Moving on.
	Yeah, so this also received controversy as well for similar reasons.
	Guys are saying this, and women as well, they're saying this is inappropriate.
	What do you guys think?
	Yeah, but I don't think this is pornographic.
	I just think it's like... I don't know if I'd share my birth with social media.
	Your birth.
	Yeah, that too.
	I've got the family photos, actually.
	Don't put them on Twitter.
	Isn't this more like, because there's people who make stuff that goes on social media, but you're also a human being.
	You don't share everything, because that would be mental, right?
	I'm coming over from that perspective.
	Yeah, I think, to be fair though, the limits of what to share and what not to share is all skewed nowadays.
	Everyone is sharing everything.
	I don't know, I saw someone say the reason why it's inappropriate is because she's looking at the camera.
	I don't know if there's any truth to that but I thought it was something interesting but it's like you can barely see her boobs like surely again this is like you know this isn't lapping she's actually had a baby you know she's actually breastfeeding the baby like shouldn't this be a conservative ideal?
	Yeah I don't know like there's there's something about the fact that she is I don't know how to frame it like But I mean, most like every, every time I've, I've been at three births now, man, like my wife would not want me to put a photo of her.
	That's what I'm getting at.
	It's not, not even though it should be about modesty.
	She'd be like, I look awful.
	Cause you know, it's a stressful event.
	So she definitely wouldn't want me to put a picture up and it never occurred to me to do so.
	Um, so it's, it's kind of a weird thing.
	I don't know.
	Your life, do whatever you want.
	I just, I wouldn't.
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	I don't, I don't know.
	Speak, I'm in big trouble.
	Oh, this is the, this is titty gate, isn't it?
	The biggest controversy.
	Yeah, right.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	She knows what she's doing.
	I don't know.
	She does.
	Look, she's covered in makeup.
	Her boobs are in the very center of the screen.
	She's wearing the tightest top she can and a push-up bra.
	She knows what she's doing.
	Is this not just your version of money?
	No, she knows what she's doing.
	Why does she want me to have sex with her?
	Yeah, but that's what she's doing.
	She knows what she's doing.
	I'm not buying it.
	Women, you're not innocent.
	I don't believe I don't know, I sort of read this as the rightest version of the bake the cake controversy.
	Because I saw someone, they tweeted, so this is me cooking a cake, where's the cake?
	It's right below the bottom of the screen.
	Why are you focusing on my huge tits?
	Why are you doing that?
	Okay, go to the first frame.
	First frame.
	Go to the first frame.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	I was going to tweet that.
	Okay, right.
	So, question, would you do that to an audience of kindergartners?
	No, of course you wouldn't.
	No, that's a flirtatious.
	She's winking and doing some sort of little smile.
	That's a cute pose though.
	You've not interacted enough with Instagram, mate.
	This is a flirtatious pose.
	She knows she's dressing like this for a reason.
	I'm not buying it at all.
	I'm not saying she shouldn't do it.
	This is a generational difference.
	So I know what you're coming from and that makes sense, what you're thinking.
	But, uh, I've unfortunately had to start using Instagram a lot and interact, interacting with the female accounts that it's, it's a proper, just cultural thing of being cutesy and et cetera is the way to be.
	It seems you're no better than me.
	I'm literally just looking at it going what the hell?
	But, so I don't think it is.
	I think I'm telling you this.
	Right, I don't think this is about baking.
	I'll tell you that.
	Yeah, no, that's great.
	That's a great way for you.
	This isn't... Look at it.
	This is not about baking.
	No, it... Right, it's not about baking.
	It's to show, again, look how tragedy is about baking.
	And again, I actually don't have an issue with this.
	I think baking a cake is fine.
	It's something that is virtuous.
	It should be valued.
	Oh, it's a mankito.
	I disagree.
	Look, right, look at the front of her shirt there.
	Look at all that mess on her shirt.
	She should be wearing an apron, right?
	You are right, this is not about the baking.
	Look how messy she's got.
	She would cover herself with an apron, which would hide her boobs, which is why she's not doing it, which is why she's just making the sacrifice of getting covered in all that crap, because this is what this is about.
	I don't know.
	I do know.
	Okay.
	Trust me, I am well-versed.
	She would be wearing an apron if this wasn't about getting people to eye her up.
	It's just interesting this caused a lot of controversy considering, like, let me try and find it.
	Like, this is what she posts normally and it's the baking video that has caused controversy.
	But then again, you think it's fine that she posts things like this, right?
	Because it's like the calendar.
	No, no, it is fine, right?
	But what I'm not happy about is the lie.
	Like, there's the lie.
	Like this, she's not pretending that she's not trying to get male attention online, right?
	And that's fine.
	You know, a lot of men try to get female attention online.
	That's fine.
	It's totally normal because men and women like each other.
	It's totally fine.
	Just don't lie to me.
	Oh, I'm just baking a cake with my massive boobs out.
	Shut up.
	You're not just baking a cake.
	All right.
	And everyone can see you're not just baking a cake.
	Otherwise you'd wear a bloody apron.
	You wouldn't be going and winking at the camera.
	Not buying it.
	Stop lying.
	And I've seen so, so many people were talking about this as well, but in my feet, but she's just picking a cape.
	No, she's not.
	Otherwise she'd be wearing a bloody apron.
	She wouldn't be having, she'd be wearing a looser jumper.
	You know, she would just be dressed normally.
	You know, she's literally flexing like this to make her boobs the most prominent thing in the center of the frame.
	Don't lie.
	And it's fine to do it.
	It's normal.
	In fact, if you're going to do it, that's probably the best way of doing it because you're not You know, showing anything really, it's all up to the imagination.
	But that is true!
	Is this a lot of pent-up energy from Gamer Girls back in the day?
	Because that's exactly... No, it's the same thing, wasn't it?
	No, I never watched.
	But the problem with Gamer Girls, that genre during Game of Game and whatnot, wasn't that it was women in gaming.
	It was women who were clearly just like Twitch thots, who were then playing games.
	Yeah, like, here's me, and then the small screen game.
	But no, I never watched any of that, so I wasn't bothered about that.
	I have a question.
	When do you think it is okay for women to be sexual in society?
	There are lots of circumstances.
	You want the Islamic answer?
	All of those answers are never.
	I don't know.
	I was going to do a segment about it, actually.
	We did look up sex advice in the Lamic part of the internet, and it's literally just loads of advice.
	They're just like, no, no, no, you don't have to be so worried.
	You can actually have sex with your husband.
	I was just like, really?
	So loads of Muslim women think that they've got to be super trad and not sexual all the time.
	So they actually need essentially a bunch of resources and counseling online.
	It's like, no, no, you married him now.
	You're meant to do that and go and enjoy it.
	Do whatever you wish.
	But I got naked in front of my husband.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	They take it way too far to the other side.
	Yeah, I've got a problem.
	And that's the thing, I'm not trying to say that she can't do these things.
	It's not bad if you're on like a night out to wear like, you know, a revealing dress or whatever, because you're going out, you want to meet a man or whatever.
	Okay, fine.
	I mean, I'm not saying I'm pro it or anti it, but like, it's normal and it's not like deceptive.
	It's, it's perfectly upfront of what you're doing, but it's when the, Oh no, I'm just baking cake.
	No, you're not just baking a cake.
	Stop lying.
	You know, that's the thing that bothers me.
	I think two things can be true at once though.
	Like, you can look cute in a video from a Zuma woman.
	You can look cute in a video and think it's about baking the cake and also be like, I have boobs, you know?
	I think that's a valid thing as well.
	If you wanted to make a video about baking a cake, you wouldn't be in it at all.
	You'd just literally have the camera on the cake.
	No, that's the male-female difference.
	Men film the thing, women film themselves with the thing.
	Yeah, but that's because there's nothing in it for a man to have himself in the shot.
	Women aren't going to be like, oh wow, he's a super cute guy, I'm going to like it.
	But men will be like, oh she's a super cute girl, I'm going to like it.
	Right.
	It's the women judge men and validate men by the things they do.
	Men validate women by the things they see, by the way they look.
	And that's the entire difference between the alien species of men and women.
	And I'm telling you, that's why these women aren't wearing, that's why they were boobs in the center.
	Oh yeah, I'm wearing the ultra tight shirt and I don't have an apron.
	And yo, look, I'm baking a cake that's just half off screen.
	Like, no, it's, it's just, The way things are and it's, it's fine.
	It's normal.
	It's just, we should be able to be honest about it.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I have an answer to your question.
	I don't know what you think of it, but I think probably when you gab an exclusive relationship.
	Because I saw this interview a while back where this guy goes up to a couple and he interviews the girl first and he says, would it be okay if your boyfriend here was liking bikini pictures of other women?
	And she says, well, obviously not.
	That would be disrespectful.
	And he says, right.
	So do you think it's okay if you post bikini pictures?
	And then she ums and uhs and is like, no, that's different, it's fine.
	I think there definitely was an aspect of keeping that sexual aspect for the person you're exclusive with, rather than having it being public once you're in an exclusive relationship.
	Yeah, I think that's a valid answer.
	I know a talking point that Connor has actually made about digital infidelity, about when women post themselves online, even like a summer dress or that kind of thing.
	And again, they're doing it for male attention.
	I'm just baking a cake!
	There is something to that.
	But again, if like, if she wants to market herself as romantically available, you know, that probably is the best way to do it.
	It's fine.
	And it's not even that she shouldn't be allowed to do that or anything like that.
	Just be aware.
	You know, let's just call it what it is.
	All right.
	I don't know if we have more to go through.
	Grown adult males in their 40s bullying this woman for this video.
	Literally half the cake is off the bloody screen.
	How could I copy that recipe?
	This is not about the fucking cake!
	What if you weren't into tips though?
	Then if you were a grandma looking for how do I bake that kind of cake, a brown butter caramel cake, you would not go to that video, right?
	It's no use whatsoever, you know, but if you wanted to see a hot girl making a cake, then yeah, that's a pretty good video, right?
	That's the difference.
	And then I assume you added this?
	Yeah, I just wanted to make the point that this is kind of the norm for women today.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And again, like maybe she is actually conservative that she isn't like that all the time, even if she is taking pictures in her.
	How conservative can she want to be?
	No, that's the point that the lady earlier with her big tits.
	Yeah.
	I'm not saying that conservative women don't look for male attention.
	They did it in different ways.
	No, but it's like a hoflation where there's different standards now.
	So a conservative woman from 1910 does not look like a conservative woman from today because the comparisons to the local whore.
	Well, the difference is about the same, but the local whore in 1910 didn't look like this either.
	Yeah, the cake girl is wearing a Western equivalent to a hijab, pretty much.
	I'm going to bring some more.
	Anyway, I suppose we'll pull another.
	Do you want to tell people where they can find you?
	Yeah, on Twitter is the best place.
	I hate tags.
	I do.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I hate tags too, though.
	I mean... That's to be said.
	JessGill03 on Twitter where I post my opinions and also the box pops that I do with NowLotusEaters.
	All right, let's go to the video comments.
	Hi LotusEaters, Robert Art Studio here.
	I just wondered Do you think there's going to be any live events this year, like meetups and things like that?
	And do you have any on the calendar already?
	It would just be good to know.
	Thanks.
	We haven't got any planned.
	I'm not saying we can't plan some for the summer or something.
	See what we can do.
	That's an answer.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Don't let this go.
	Is that...
	Okay.
	Oh.
	What is it?
	People don't know, Kevin Clark is a lovely boomer who's living in Thailand, so his video skills are a bit strange.
	Facebook privilege.
	I mean, truth?
	Yeah, he's not wrong about any of these things.
	People listening, he's basically just like, hey, when everything's going fine, who are you going to call?
	You need to call race baiters and woke rifters, because how else is everything going to be awful?
	Let's go to the next one.
	The situation is actually mad, Hampton.
	As I'm recording this, first day afternoon, it is minus nine degrees.
	And tonight, it should be up to minus 20 degrees.
	This is not normal for Denmark.
	We had people stranded in their houses, stranded in their cars and buses.
	We had a motor road that is flooded and multiple villages, especially at the coast, that is flooded and people are stuck.
	I'm doing good.
	I'm hungering down.
	But yeah, it's wild.
	God's revenge for the Viking invasions.
	Or climate change, I don't know.
	When are we going to get over that, I suppose?
	Why would we?
	Okay, fair enough, yeah.
	It's our holocaust.
	Let's go to the next one.
	I didn't want to say that.
	Hey guys, a message to Robert's Art Studio.
	If you want to get into Bitcoin or you just want to be able to sell art, I'm really big on new artists and everything, so please reach out to me.
	I'd love to talk to you, man.
	And I could probably give you some advice on Bitcoin as well.
	And guys, tell them what the website is.
	And for the sake of the artist, get it right this time.
	It's lotuseaters.com.
	What is his website again?
	Oh, doesn't it?
	You did it.
	I can't remember it.
	cscooper.com.au.
	There we are.
	Go to the next one.
	Happy New Year, Lotus Eaters.
	I got a new voice.
	I think the easiest way to find the leftists is to support their ideas for the wrong reasons.
	CG, we need to let in immigrants because they can't run their own country.
	Trans-affirming, peri-eugenics, stuff like that.
	Can you give us ideas on where we could find a place of... Bro, you've gone too far.
	You need to smash up the robot.
	That would be really funny.
	On Piers Morgan and there's some letters and it's like, yeah, so we need more immigrants.
	Like, yeah, because they can't run their own lives, can they?
	You know, good point.
	It's like, yeah, we need trans people.
	Yeah, because we don't want that person breeding.
	Yeah.
	Just saying that would be funny.
	Yeah.
	To the next one.
	So Callum, I have a question for you.
	I was actually going to do a video about AI intelligence, but I decided to leave that video till next week.
	This is a very important question because I need to confirm if it is you or not.
	You see this picture of Richie Sunak.
	Is this you next to him?
	Looks an awful lot like you.
	I just want to know.
	Isn't that Matt Letizia?
	Yeah.
	We've had him on.
	That's not me!
	I'm not 60, what do you think?
	We had him on the podcast.
	Yeah, no, it's a good guy.
	Although I do love that photo, that's fantastic.
	My dad was thrilled because he's a massive Southampton fan and I've never watched any football ever.
	I had no idea who he was.
	I do really hope he did go up to him and say something.
	Yeah, me too.
	He said, what are you doing here?
	Go away.
	I love the scowl.
	That's great.
	Disgusting.
	So great.
	He's right.
	Yeah.
	Go to the next one.
	Oh, there is no more.
	Right.
	There's some comments.
	Karambit says, looks like a great lineup and the guests today will be fun.
	Also, Carl, I want you to retract your statement of me being a math nerd from yesterday.
	I'm a turbo autist and there is a massive difference.
	That's a good point.
	You can berate me on Twitch later.
	Rob Art Studio says, would some art for The Office be of value?
	Yeah, but not me on a horse like Napoleon, please.
	But I'm sure that we can come up with some ideas.
	I have a physics degree.
	What are you asking me about art for?
	Russian Garbage Human says, great lineup and topics in meeting all day, but I look forward to watching the VOD on the drive home.
	More guests.
	Intrinsic Pursuit says, the Epstein stuff just hasn't been redacted with any level of moral outrage by the media.
	Compare it to the Lawrence Fox situation, for example.
	That would be very comparable for me.
	I will do Lawrence Fox.
	I suppose you would say he wouldn't shag that woman.
	There's a crime against humanity.
	Yeah, they're not that bothered by Epstein, actually, are they?
	JJHW says, just remember Callum, they are lying.
	We know they are lying.
	They know we know they are lying, and yet they are still lying.
	Naravar says, ah, the Epstein list.
	Good to know who's on it.
	Both those who knew about and the surprises looking at you Hawking.
	He is dead, so I don't think there's going to be much accountability for it.
	Bad to know that nothing will befall those named.
	The Rochdale grooming gang is looking upon Epstein's casket with envy, I'm sure.
	That's pretty true.
	That's quite macabre, isn't it?
	JC says, I think there's very little to be learned from the iteration, this iteration of the pedophiles.
	I think all the juicy stuff has been destroyed at this point and Prince Andrew is a distraction.
	However, something interesting for me is that Trump is all but exonerated by some of the content they're in.
	Uh, yeah.
	Again, just another one of those weird things that like Trump gets investigated for yet another thing and has done nothing wrong.
	It's like really him.
	Yeah.
	You're probably too young to remember, but Donald Trump was known as a sort of playboy billionaire mogul back when I was young.
	And so, like, you expect him to have some seedy stuff in his past.
	And it's like, okay, but where's the seedy stuff, Donald?
	I'm still sort of in shock about Bill Clinton becoming a pedo.
	Really?
	I don't know why, but part of me just has that, like, he should still have the image of that guy who plays the saxophone.
	And instead, now he's just a pedophile.
	I always assumed he was a rapist.
	Is that worse?
	No, no.
	Being a pedophile, I think, is worse than being a rapist.
	Yeah, being a pedo is both of them.
	But, I mean, he has his fine lines.
	Well, apart from the pedophilia, he didn't rape anyone, did he?
	No, no, no.
	There are, like, you know, there's a persistent set of rumors.
	Okay.
	And these things tend not to persist if there's nothing to them.
	I was thinking about Monica Lewinsky.
	Yeah, no, that wasn't me.
	Yeah, that was consensual.
	But I'm pretty sure that... I've just always thought of him as a rapist, basically.
	So, you know, him being like, oh, he's a paedophile as well.
	Just paedosexual president.
	Yeah.
	Maps claim him as one of their own.
	No, no, no.
	I guess I've watched loads of the conspiracy videos, but basically he's definitely always been like...
	The wrong one.
	Yeah.
	So Olney says, "Regarding the debauchery of the elites and the myriad of conspiracy theories, it's actually to their advantage.
	The most outrageous stories circulate on the internet because, as both Jess and Carl remarked, if and when the truth comes out, instead of causing outrage, as it really ought to, it ends up being a bit of an anti-climax.
	Yeah, but we never got to find out what that Temple one, Pedo Island one.
	Yeah, that still scares me.
	What's the temple?
	You don't know about the temple?
	Oh.
	John, pull that up.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So there's the island and there's like his mansion over there.
	He's got his gardeners and whatnot.
	And around the other side, there's just this really weird looking building that looks like a temple or a mosque or something.
	Some sort of like Babylonian temple or something.
	And it's, no one knows what's inside.
	And also- The doors on it were fake.
	Why would you build one?
	Like, it's a really weird thing to even look at, and then to own, and for an international billionaire pedo to own.
	Yeah, that's probably why they drink the children's blood.
	Well, exactly!
	That's what everyone thinks.
	Exactly, and so it's like... No, but the paintings as well.
	Yeah, the painting of Bill Clinton in a dress.
	What?
	Right, so in Epstein's New York house, there's a painting of Bill Clinton wearing, like, a blue dress and pointing, and, like, lounging over a chair, and it's like, okay, this is weird.
	And then there's a painting of George Bush, George W. Bush, with a Jenga, two towers, and he's playing with planes, hitting them, and it's just like, look, here we go.
	It's like they're mocking us?
	Yeah, it's like, what the hell am I looking at?
	Times of Israel though.
	Yeah.
	And then you can see the Bill Clinton one just down there, which has got a couple of jengas and some paper lines.
	And it's just like, what am I looking at?
	So very, very suspicious.
	Yeah.
	Just, I find them weird and I don't trust them.
	And so it's like Bill Clinton went to little St.
	James.
	It's like, yeah, I bet he did.
	Uh, anyway, uh, Kevin says, if nothing else, the release of the documents has led to some cracking Stephen Hawking memes.
	All of this, that Texas girl says, all of this came out two years ago at the Maxwell trial.
	Not sure why it's releasing it now other than distract from something else.
	Well, that's another point that I was going to make at you.
	I totally forgot.
	But yeah, all of this is actually not very new.
	I read through like the 600 pages of the Maxwell trial when I was on holiday in Florida.
	It was suffering hot, there was a storm for this video.
	And like, there's just like, nothing seems to be new.
	We know that by actually seeing the flight log, But the thing is, whoever had written this Maxwell deposition had gone through it themselves.
	And then I'm like, yeah, so he's been on there 27 times or something.
	So it's like, okay, there's nothing new there.
	So again, it feels like a bit of a cover up in some way, to be honest.
	There's nothing new.
	I don't know.
	I never really believed the cover-up things, but in this case, I don't know what to believe.
	All of the elite are just implicated in a pedo-trafficking network.
	There was not going to be a cover-up.
	But this is the thing.
	I don't want to believe in conspiracies or anything like that.
	They always seem kind of nuts, and they always get into territory that's nuts.
	But the Epstein thing is the thing that sort of makes me actually go, no, man, these guys are actually right about everything.
	There's 5D chess going on.
	The people who run the world are actually a bunch of pedophiles.
	And that's not even controversial to say anymore.
	It's just like, well, here's the names, here's the lists.
	The received wisdom is the people who rule over us.
	Nonsense.
	Yeah, I mean, that used to be mad.
	It used to be a mad thing mad people said.
	And then it's just like, oh yeah, here's the deposition of the guy who killed himself, totally, in his cell.
	It's like... Okay.
	Bit more scared about the world now.
	The French Simpson says, has anyone played the Indian Maps game?
	Open Google Maps, drop the Street View guy randomly, and you have up to 10 clicks to find poo on the streets.
	There's a better one.
	If you look up the Indian Battle Rifle, so the main battle rifle from the Indian Army, on Wikipedia, the image they have, the rifle is there, and right underneath it is a Every time!
	Every single time, man.
	I'll see if I can find it.
	You can see why the poo in the loo campaign was so needed.
	Yeah, well, that many people.
	Michael says, keep in mind they don't use toilet paper in India and no one is left-handed for a reason.
	Sure you want to go?
	We shake hands with the right.
	Screw tape blazer says, I ate all the street food in my third world travels.
	It was delicious, delicious.
	And I never got sick.
	Uh, now I have a friend for life in my brain.
	One, uh, barrel of a morgue says could be worse.
	I've seen Chinese street food that sells a grease harvested from sewers and with guys peeing in kitchen pots.
	Oh God.
	I'm happy to have the African sandwich that he was making.
	That looks fine.
	Good for the Africans as well.
	No, we're not like that, thank you.
	Good to see Africans have chosen our side in the ongoing Slop Gate Wars, says Matt.
	Yeah, I totally agree.
	Uh, right.
	Alexander says in defense of trad bots.
	No, these are married women posing for pictures for a pinup calendar, which is just wanking material for males.
	And many of these women claim to be Christian.
	Uh, there is no defense for this.
	Would any of you be okay with your wives and daughters wearing a string bikini like Riley Gaines on the cover for men to jerk off to?
	I really hope not.
	Sexual degeneracy like this should not be accepted on the right and certainly not by anyone calling themselves a conservative, a Christian.
	Make modesty great again, make degeneracy shameful again.
	Pretty hard line there.
	What do you guys think?
	I don't know.
	I think there is something to it.
	I saw something with Riley, a comment about the Riley Gaines thing where it's just like Riley Gaines, the activist who advocates against men going into women's toilets and seeing her in her underwear and going on a conservative dad thing where men are seeing her in her underwear.
	I think there is something to that.
	I don't know, it seems so fake to me.
	I think the truth is that if you're in a explicit relationship, yeah, it's a point exactly as true though, that you wouldn't want your wife doing it, right?
	Sure.
	There's an argument to be made for that, but the in general being horrifically upset about this, I don't personally get, because of all the things in the modern world, this is a complete nothing burger.
	You're totally right.
	I just have no care.
	Aren't you upset about this?
	Shouldn't we thought patrol?
	It's like, man, there are thoughts that need patrolling.
	Can we get the calendar back up again?
	just to start like I mean yeah this is really milk toast I don't know I just It's a woman in a bikini.
	My God, man, I've seen so much worse than women in bikinis.
	Check out the Biden cock pics.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I've just seen so much worse than an attractive woman in a bikini.
	Like, you know, you see this in the summer when you go to the beach, it's not the end of the world.
	But there's also the mock-ups.
	I saw some people making, like, if the Democrats released a calendar these days, what would they put on the cover?
	Because they can't put women, obviously.
	A little veiny naked.
	Yeah, it's all that.
	It's all just deformities.
	Oh, this is the Indian battle rifle I found.
	God, that is a poo.
	Yeah, there is.
	This is the main battle rifle, and that's the Wikipedia image they use.
	Just to prove my point.
	The foreign world is mental.
	Yeah, yeah, the foreign world is mental.
	Let's get that off screen.
	Yeah, can we go back to the thoughts, please?
	There we are, Mexican weather.
	Yeah, Mexican calendar.
	Mexican weather goals, yeah.
	But that's the thing, like, Is it, like, is it even stuff you'd wank off to?
	Like, come on, it's so tame.
	It's just so, it's so not important.
	Like, is anyone really like, look, guys, we can save conservatism, but we need to just eradicate the conservative dad calendar girls.
	We need no more conservative calendars and conservatism saved.
	I don't think this has made a major dent in the movement.
	Especially considering the normalization of only fans of young girls.
	I think that's a bigger battle.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If we can get it to just a few really tame pictures in a calendar, I think the West is safe.
	Karambit says, as an American, I'm sorry for all of this cringe.
	This just sounds like Christian Bale clutching.
	And in a way, yes.
	George Happ says, trad thoughts are worse than the regular ones, since they want us to pretend they are not using the same tactics.
	Boob cake girl knows she's baiting simps, just once you want a unicorn.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Yeah, that's a great refrain.
	Boob cake girl knows she's baiting simps.
	In fact, the way we characterize her is boob cake girl.
	That's how you know who I'm talking about.
	So I tell, I'm, I'm never going to, I'm going to hold the line on this one.
	Boob cake girls know exactly what they're doing.
	Matt says the biggest sin in these photos is the absolutely abysmal technical state of the photography.
	The composition, the flat lighting, the colors, the plain white wall is painful to look at.
	Right-wingers need to hire decent professionals.
	So what, left-wingers?
	With our ideological leanings to avoid giving off the vibe of being out of touch cheapskate boomers.
	Furious Dan says, this is just jealous women venting about more attractive women.
	I am a jealous woman.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	So what?
	Down with the tripods?
	Down with the tripods.
	No, like, I think, again, I actually defend the bouquet girl and I'm relatively against the conservative calendar, which is the exact opposite take that you have.
	So.
	Yeah.
	Why are you against the conservative calendar again?
	I think it's a bit larpy.
	And again, like, I think, Yeah, but it's not on puritanical standards.
	That's too much skin!
	How dare you?
	I mean, again, like, I'd feel uncomfortable showing that much skin and posing.
	Again, it's like, as a woman, like, they are aware that they are going to be sexualized in that calendar.
	Yeah, that's the point.
	Yeah.
	And again, it's like, should, like, these unmarried women, like, as you said, about when you're in a relationship, you shouldn't be sexualized.
	You know, they are not.
	Go back to the calendar a second.
	So, like, Um, can we go back?
	Like, that one obviously is an overtly sexual one.
	I think most of them are fine.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, Josie in the kitchen there, like, it really, is that, is that highly sexualized?
	Is it?
	I think, I think that's a bit larpy.
	Is that highly sexualized?
	I'm not saying it's not larpy.
	Yeah.
	Like, but like, the middle three... Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Fair point.
	There's a Christian question.
	But like... No, seriously, why?
	Yeah, because... You're being sexual in the name of God or something?
	She's not being very sexual, she's just... Yeah, I mean, I personally don't see much... I think the cake-baking woman... People are saying the leg... Again, I'm a woman, I can't really tell, but people are saying the legs are the issue in this situation.
	Yeah, I know, I know, but like... I'm not a leg guy!
	No, no, no.
	I like thighs, I guess.
	There's just too much ankle, that's the problem.
	Everyone knows it, frankly.
	You know how everyone sort of agrees that you've got the tits and the ass guys are all like, feet guys.
	Fucking weirdos, man.
	Yeah.
	That's how I feel about people who get fussy over legs.
	It's like, really?
	Well, no, nice legs are good, but like... I just don't have that connection in my brain that's like, that's sexual.
	I just look at it as a leg.
	I don't know what to do with that.
	Like, that's how I feel about feet.
	It's just like... Yeah, that's my point.
	But it's just like, oh, come on, this is really tame.
	And if this is over-sexualization to you, I think it's your standards.
	I think you've got an argument for this one though.
	Sure.
	There's an argument, but it's not convincing for me.
	But again, if we're going to go for, okay, on a scale of one to 10 on lewdness, maybe Ashley Sinclair got up to a four, you know?
	She's mid.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Peyton Drew is a solid six, perhaps.
	It's really not like anything that bad, I don't know.
	Anyway.
	Are we out of time?
	I think so.
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