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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #791

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	- - All right, I assume I'm live.
	Just to tell John, if you're talking, the speakers don't work, so we're a bit confused as to how to fix that.
	But either way, I'm letting the movie magic out there.
	I'm joined by Bo and Charlie Downs.
	Hi.
	There's some speakers under the desk where John can shout at us and tell us how much we're messing up, such as now.
	But anyway, so today we're going to be talking about Dutch having a plan, was the emperor trans, and what do the immigration data say, which I did a show, I think it was yesterday, with Harry, where we were talking about a bunch of Israeli parliamentarians are like, hey, we should move these people who are a national security threat to us to England.
	You should have them.
	And I just sat there really angry, and I watched the segment back last night, and my face, I was very, very angry.
	I feel like it's going to be the same thing.
	Probably, yeah.
	That's Morgoth's Law, isn't it?
	Whatever happens, it will always result in more third-world migration to Europe.
	It's the opposite of the Nothing Happened Show.
	Yeah.
	We'll get into that.
	When Jordan and Egypt don't want a piece of it, you know it's bad news.
	Yeah.
	I do love the idea if we're just back in the day when maybe all these people from the Islamic State, they need to go somewhere, Jordan.
	But we have some announcements to make, which is first and foremost, Lads Hour.
	This is after this, so I think it's about 3.30 UK time.
	Oh, it's written right there.
	It's 3pm UK time, in which we're going to be discussing the zombie apocalypse and your plans for the zombie apocalypse.
	For people who haven't heard before, I think Carl correctly put it, which is Lads Hour is The View, but for men.
	So come and join the male version of The View.
	So actually entertaining.
	Yeah, not just a bunch of squawking bitches.
	There's also the Gold Tier Zoom call.
	This is tomorrow at 3pm as well.
	So if you're a Gold Tier member, do come and join.
	And if you want to join, you have to buy a Gold Tier membership.
	So that's the deal.
	In which we just chat.
	In which we just chat with anyone who's a Gold Tier.
	We go one by one, see what we can do.
	And then the last thing to mention being that it's the last day of the 33% off for your first three months when you use code BIRTHDAY to sign up and load into cedars.com.
	So...
	If you want to do it, do it now.
	Otherwise, it's gone.
	There is also a discount for the merch store, which was 12.5%, I believe, with the same code.
	They're having a bit of a kerfuffle with the UK store.
	For some reason, they decided they would go down for maintenance today, which is a bit annoying.
	So I've been told that that's being extended to an extra 24 hours.
	The code there for the merch, not for the signing up at leatherzetas.com because of the kerfuffle.
	But if you're not from the UK and you're trying to access the merch store, it should be fine.
	If it's not, Eh, I can't do anything about it.
	So, there we are.
	Let's get into the news, shall we?
	So, Dutch has got a plan, boys.
	We've got one more goddamn plan.
	And you can see here, an artist's interpretation of the Dutch having their plan.
	They're thinking super, super hard.
	Do you wanna know what the plan is?
	Yes, please.
	Let's hear it.
	We deport people who hate us.
	Wow.
	Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah.
	Controversial.
	I hear that's racist.
	Who cares?
	Because what does that word even mean anymore?
	I mean, we're talking here, for people who don't know, this lady here, Saira Rao, saying, F America, F Israel, the end.
	She's kind of irrelevant in her tweet, but you may remember her because she once debated Karl about racism and Karl brought up the concept of like, oh, what if you were racist against white people or sexist against men?
	And she literally blue screened, like, dun, dun, dun, dun.
	She just looked up and then just went, no, that doesn't exist.
	And then left the debate.
	I remember seeing that all those years ago.
	Is that a rage quit, would you call that?
	I think it's a blue screen more than a rage quit.
	She couldn't comprehend the concept and then rage quit.
	She's like, I can't talk to you.
	Oh, her mind actually just flatlined.
	Yeah.
	You see that quite a lot actually, especially like in street interviews when someone's going up to woke types talking about these things and they just They like, if they're asked one of those sorts of questions, they just stop and then they just walk away.
	Yeah.
	Literally like NPC, like they've reached the end of their code.
	Yeah, he's calling men, uh, well rats who need to be exterminated sexist against men and they're just like, I don't understand.
	It's like, what?
	I've literally given you the easiest question on earth, but whatever.
	But here's the plan.
	I look forward to attempting the plan.
	And the reason I bring it all up is because, as everyone has seen on their timelines, Dutch, the Netherlands, Holland, whatever the hell you want to call those stupid half-German, half-English swamp Germans, they've decided to have an election.
	What?
	A little rude.
	I like the Dutch.
	Yeah, the Dutch are successful.
	Oh, who doesn't?
	But they are swamp Germans.
	That's their cutie nickname.
	You mean that as a term of endearment?
	OK.
	Yeah, you know, like the sausage munching krauts or the frog eating frogs.
	So, you know, that's how the British show affection.
	At least some of us.
	So they've had an election, as you can see.
	Most of it's been counted.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	You can count a million odd votes or however many there are in one night.
	Arizona.
	Like, a month.
	But whatever, no, no, no, we're just talking about the Netherlands today.
	So the Netherlands have had their election, and as you can see, right at the top, the PVV, Geert Wilders.
	And Geert is a hell of a comrade.
	He is someone who has been fighting for, what, 20-something years now?
	He's been around for a long time, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	In his own party, which has been explicitly them talking about the foreigners, they're very different, maybe less of them.
	That's basically the policy point.
	It's been almost entirely focused on Islamic immigration.
	I mean, the man even called for the banning of the Quran at one point, which I don't know if he still stands by.
	Don't pay attention to politics if I can help it.
	I do know he made a film or produced a film a few years and years ago now, an anti-Islam film.
	And yeah, part of his policy was to ban the Quran and close all Islamic schools.
	But apparently just in the run up to this election, he sort of eased back on that a bit.
	Well, apparently that really helped me in the polls though.
	I'm not surprised.
	That made the difference.
	But yeah, he's won.
	I mean, we can see, I suppose I'll go to the next one on the map.
	Wait, that's a pretty good victory map.
	Yeah.
	To keep in mind as well, of course, the Netherlands has What, I think it's proportional representation for some tiny threshold?
	It's like 0.67, I think.
	Some tiny, so he's been around for a long time.
	I think he first entered Parliament like 2006 and I remember him coming to like the free Tommy rallies to give a message.
	We'll get back to that because he wasn't actually allowed into the country.
	And he's been fighting for this movement for so long, and now he is the biggest party in Dutch politics.
	And as you can see, they're utterly dominating the countryside.
	I do love any election map in the West, you can just tell where the cities are.
	Yeah, I've become pretty open to proportional representation, actually.
	Because of instances like this.
	Because actually, once you get your foot in the door, you can work within the system.
	Like this guy has.
	And now, you know, we see this.
	It's just fairer.
	It's just fairer.
	Well, genuinely, you can get a movement which is supported by some percentage of the population actually represented, even in a small proportion.
	And it's not nothing.
	Having one or two MPs, Is such a good ground to them build on your party.
	Whereas if you're UKIP, you can get what was it like 20% of the vote and get zero of these.
	Yeah.
	But this just isn't a system that actually shows the population that they have any input.
	Whereas this, this is pretty cool.
	As you can see, which I don't know.
	I don't know what's been going on in Dutch politics.
	Don't speak Dutch.
	Why would I?
	And so we've all kind of been weeded out in the sense of that farmer's party blew up a while back.
	Probably about anything anyone remembers, against the attempt to try and destroy all of Dutch farming, which was good.
	Everyone's proud of them.
	And now they've done this, which is mass voting for the Gert Wilders, which is great news!
	Because, I mean, the man is on our side, on the position of, hey, maybe we should have a Netherlands that is Dutch and exists for a lot longer.
	It's interesting.
	I have a Dutch friend, actually, and he was telling me about, in the run-up to this election, I mean he lives in the UK but obviously he has family and friends in the Netherlands and he was saying that there is genuinely like a grassroots movement against immigration and against Islam and that sort of thing.
	It's widespread which is the case in many places.
	And the EU, another one of Wilders' main things is that he wants to leave the EU and the Euro and everything I believe.
	He's basically Euro-sceptic, right-wing, usually described as a populist, but just popular, so a pointless statement.
	I've never understood why or how populism, or to be a populist, is derogatory in any way.
	It doesn't make any sense to me.
	That's the classic leftist inversion of what's real or true or right.
	Because the right thing to do is be an elitist, but only for our elite.
	Yeah, like, to use it as a pejorative, that you're a populist.
	What's wrong with that?
	What are you talking about?
	But getting to the opinion polls, because this is what I found super interesting, and again, not in my sphere, when we're talking about foreign elections, I know some and not this one, and you can see here, you've got the PVV jotting around, being pretty good, but then at the last minute, after a surge from about October-ish, or maybe even June, July, There's this massive surge for them, which then makes them, as polling here, the second biggest party, and now they're the biggest party in terms of seats.
	Which, um... Well, that's interesting.
	I don't know if you boys have noticed something, but there was this date in October in which all of a sudden, the day before, if you talked about deporting people, you were put on a list.
	And the day after, it was mainstream conversation about mass deportations of people who hate the West.
	The Overton window miraculously shifted, suddenly, for no reason.
	Something happened.
	Something happened.
	And the Overton window finally moved.
	And you can see here the Netherlands had the exact same something happening as we had, which is, for some reason, a large percentage of the Dutch population felt very strongly for the Palestinian cause.
	And you can see here them occupying Amsterdam Central Station, because...
	I mean, just more generally.
	I remember this before Andrew Tate converted.
	There's a good clip of him where he's in London and he's walking down the street and he sees a Palestine protest.
	And because this is before he's converted, he's talking to the camera and says, what are any of these people doing?
	If you want to support Palestine, go there.
	If you want to support Israel, go there.
	Like, what are you doing living in the West as a Muslim saying I support Palestine?
	And now he's happy that the Trocadero has been turned into a giant mosque, so... Yeah, Andrew Tate has had quite the transformation.
	So that's Andrew Tate for you.
	But getting back to the point, I mean, it's just true, like, what are these people doing here?
	It was right about that back in the day.
	And it goes on, apparently they're occupying an airport as well, which... I'm not really sure, again, what the point in any of this is.
	It's a show of force, isn't it?
	Yeah, I mean... What is this person doing?
	From the river, from the river, from the river, from the river?
	Just written on her head?
	With a wicker hat?
	Sorry, we're not even talking about, like, someone from the Arab world here.
	We're talking about, what, Matron?
	Who's gone mental.
	Yeah.
	Look at the glassy-eyed...
	Yeah, they have grandkids too.
	...glassy-eyed insanity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, this...
	Traitor boomers.
	This whole thing, this whole movement in the West...
	I mean, just look at these women.
	The white women, at least, I can understand.
	Like, you just want some attention.
	It's kind of embarrassing.
	But to see it happen in the same way in the Netherlands, I can't help but wonder if it's the reason, or at least one of the main reasons, why there was that sudden surge for GERT builders, whose explicit policy is deport foreign conflicts by deporting their people, because why would we have them here?
	Don't like foreign conflict?
	Seems sane to me.
	There have been some responses to Goethe-Wilder's victory as well.
	As you can see here.
	I don't know how to feel about the fact that a quarter of the country just voted for a party whose leader wants less Moroccans.
	Well, I have a suggestion.
	I mean, you could feel this way.
	Drudger has pointed out.
	Feel however you want, that's a you problem.
	And, um, well, yeah, that's the will of the people.
	What do you want?
	Sorry, do you hate democracy?
	I love democracy right now.
	I think there was a reply on that original tweet as well, where it's like, how dare you not want loads of millions of foreigners in your country?
	Yeah.
	Oh my God.
	Some people don't like their country being flooded with foreigners.
	How could they?
	It's truly unbelievable.
	I do like that the zeitgeist on Twitter definitely has changed.
	When someone posts some crap like this now, sure, they'll get some response, but mostly you'll just get people being like, based.
	Which, that's cool.
	But, you know, Dredka here, giving some ideas.
	This is a real photo, by the way.
	But that's the point.
	If a leader of a European country comes to power, whose main goal is, well, my ethnic group should be represented in its culture here and shouldn't be extinguished, and you have a problem with that?
	You're free to leave.
	I'm sorry, you don't have the right to force the supremacy of Moroccan culture on the Netherlands?
	What the hell's wrong with you?
	Like, we are actually anti-imperialist about that, and you need to go if you are going to be an imperialist about that.
	That's just fair.
	And I wanted to mention as earlier that Goethe has been a good friend of the British right for quite some time, which has been interesting.
	You can see here, this is a video he sent to the Free Tommy rally.
	And the Free Tommy Rally was being held because Tommy Robinson was arrested for filming outside a court house, where he asked the alleged, now convicted rapist, how do you feel about your sentence?
	And the police instantly arrested him, ran him through the court system, like...
	I don't know, that meme of the girl with the seven black guys.
	There was just nothing proper about it.
	And so there was a mass movement to get him freed and a retrial occurred.
	And Gert wanted to come and give a speech at the rally and tell everyone, you're in the right, keep fighting.
	And he says in here that Theresa May personally intervened to ban him from the UK.
	He was deported from the UK.
	He's not allowed in.
	But 700,000 people a year are.
	Was Tommy given a dodgy lawyer?
	Tommy Robinson was given an experienced barrister, an independent barrister.
	never get over about how just horrible the free Tommy situation was.
	Sorry for bringing it back up, but this is the media spin, just to remind everyone how bad things were.
	Was Tommy given a dodgy lawyer?
	Tommy Robinson was given an experienced barrister, an independent barrister.
	He was given exactly the representation that anyone in that situation would be given.
	But hang on, his supporters say.
	He was arrested and sent to prison in a day.
	That never happens.
	You've got to understand that contempt happens in the middle of a criminal trial.
	And in order to stop it, you have to deal with it often there and then.
	Because the nature of contempt is that it potentially can derail the entire trial.
	Basically, because the risks of contempt are so serious and can threaten justice being served, the cases are dealt with as swiftly as possible.
	So, is Tommy Robison innocent?
	No, apparently not.
	And that's not just the opinion of the court.
	That's the opinion of Tommy Robinson himself.
	When he was brought in front of the judge, he pleaded guilty.
	But the hashtag free Tommy supporters do make some valid points, according to this leading barrister.
	They're right.
	He wasn't given a fair hearing.
	It was rushed.
	The wrong procedure was used.
	And his lawyer wasn't given the opportunity to properly Mitigate for him, which is to properly argue against the length of the sentence that he was being given.
	So, Tommy Robinson supporters are right in the sense that he wasn't given a fair hearing.
	Where they're wrong is that this was some kind of conspiracy against him.
	It really wasn't.
	It was a cock-up rather than a conspiracy.
	Which is why we all suddenly agreed he had to go.
	I mean, I'm sorry, it's the same out, the same individual.
	The media are just utter scumbags, but I'll have the point.
	And it's the same situation in the Netherlands.
	It seems to be the same in every country on Earth that they're like this.
	And so there are a couple more responses I wanted to feature.
	Sadiq Khan.
	Tommy can always flee to Tel Aviv if he needs to.
	Well, one of those days he may.
	But you can see here that Sadiq Khan decided to respond to Gert being elected by saying, Why?
	Thanks, Mayor of London.
	Why?
	Why is the threat real?
	Why is the far-right on your doorstep?
	Why are they gaining ground in every country on Earth, as you put it, such as Gert Wilders here?
	Well, it's because the progressives have f***ed up every European country they get in charge of, even slightly.
	I mean, with Sadiq here, I mean, we're talking about the massive surge there because of the, well, massive threat of people who support Hamas in the Netherlands.
	And then, I'm sorry, you're the Mayor of London.
	I can't get over this.
	But that's the thing, I mean, you know, far-right is obviously just a slur and an attack that's used to discredit people.
	It means pro-European slur.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I mean this Gert Wilders, he's not actually far right by any definition because one of the interesting things and one of the things that I'm not so sure about with him is that his anti-Islam position comes basically on liberal grounds from what I can understand in that he says about you know how they treat their women and their gays and all the rest of it instead of the position that I and perhaps you guys would take which is it's just a foreign religion that doesn't have any place in Europe really.
	I mean he mostly does it on factual grounds.
	I've seen him talk about that still integration is desirable.
	I mean his crime quote unquote along with Tommy's is noticing that there's some problematic verses in the Quran.
	That's it isn't it?
	That's the crime ultimately is that you're noticed and prepared to say it, say it.
	And they're problematic verses for even liberal ideology, which is hilarious.
	That's the big crime, as you put it.
	But one other thing happened at about the same time this election took place, which is the Dutch police decided to release crime statistics by country of origin of data accumulated over 10 years at over 2 million data points.
	So we've seen some of this released in the past with the Not that damn Dutch, the other ones are big in the D. The Danes!
	They released some data a while back, they were like, hang on a minute, seems that all of our criminals are Somalis, or Afghans.
	And then just released it, and everyone was like, Jesus, Jesus, this is really racist.
	I was like, what?
	No, it's crime data, you f***ing morons.
	Like, some Euro-ethnic groups are more prevalent in crime than others.
	But the Dutch, I think, probably have the best data analysis of all time we could ever ask for here.
	And you can see the map!
	For people listening, there's a bunch of countries, broadly could be described as NATO and China.
	For some reason, those ones, lower expected crime rates than, I don't know, what else?
	Algeria?
	Iraq?
	Yeah, that middle part of the world that no one goes on holiday to for some reason.
	Nigeria?
	That's all the red part.
	And this is a thread of the data points and the most interesting aspects, so I thought we'd just go through it because it's good to know if nothing else.
	So, point number one.
	Individuals from non-Western immigration backgrounds make up 14% of the population of the Netherlands.
	However, they account for a large proportion of sexual offences, 35%, assaults, 40%, drug offences, 40%, and violent thefts being around 60%.
	Despite being 14% of the Dutch population, 61% of violent thefts are caused by non-Western people of an immigration background. - Thank you.
	Amazing!
	Amazing how mathematics are like a universal truth.
	And it goes on.
	You can see here, this map here is showing you the rates of crime.
	So, given in aspect to the proportion of people from a certain country, what's their chances of being more likely to be a criminal.
	And as you can see, it goes as high as more than 3.5 times likely to be a criminal.
	So, a Dutch national for, what, Morocco, Algeria, Angola, Congo, Somalia, Iraq, You know, all the good countries.
	The ones you would want more immigrants from, I'm sure.
	And it goes on.
	I mean, I love here, point number three, the suspect rates for populations from the Maghreb region are even five times higher than those of the Dutch, of no migratory background.
	Five times!
	This is mad!
	I mean, we usually talk about the problems we have with, like, the Pakistani community being overrepresented in crime statistics, or the Afghans.
	Maghrebi apparently is dominating the scene.
	Yeah, that's North Africa, Northwest Africa, Algeria, Morocco.
	And then behind them is the rest of Africa.
	Or we even get Afghanistan.
	But there's one thing that's incredibly funny.
	I can't remember which point it is exactly, but there's one where someone points out, I think it's this guy, of the different groups that are expected to be those who commit crime and then end up in the prison population.
	And the Dutch aren't even in the top 20.
	That's not in this thread.
	It must be in another thread somewhere.
	My apologies for not having it.
	But literally they list like the Moroccans and the first Europeans you even find are the Bulgarians at number 20.
	Jesus.
	And that's the top 20.
	Your own population isn't even in the top 20 of, well, criminals.
	It's just mad.
	I mean, for Northwest Europe, but I mean, particularly Dutch.
	I said at the beginning, I've got a bit of a soft spot for the Dutch.
	They're very civilized people.
	Very, very polite.
	Very civilised people.
	That's why we're able to have banter, like the Welsh or something.
	Yeah, like Britain, Scandinavia, Germany, all that.
	Of course they're not destroying the very fabric of their own country.
	It might be someone else.
	And this is the problem.
	And this is why you end up, of course, having Goebbels getting in the polls as he did.
	Which is, not only have we got the problems we ran across with, like, grooming gangs and whatnot, just petty issues.
	The level of crime massively spiked as you import loads of people from foreign countries.
	Why is that?
	Well, you go to those countries and ask them about the ones they've sent, and they'll be like, yeah, we sent you the criminals.
	Why wouldn't we?
	It was like after Islamic State fell, and then suddenly there were lots of refugees from Iraq and Syria.
	Yeah, where?
	In Iraq and Syria.
	Supporters of Assad?
	No.
	Were there supporters of the Iraqi government?
	No.
	Loads of people from ISIS who supported ISIS, who suddenly needed somewhere else to live because if they stayed in Iraq or Syria, would have rightfully got the death penalty for, well, crimes against humanity.
	And instead, they just come to Europe and we're just like, oh, suddenly, no.
	Alakazam!
	He's now a refugee.
	Some care for Calais woman just insisting you're a Nazi if you've got any problem with it.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And, well, this is not only good news for the Netherlands, of course.
	Oh, there we are.
	I do have the data.
	This is the rankings.
	So, top 20 origins by suspect rate for crime and offense.
	And this is for the Netherlands.
	Angola, Somalia, Morocco there at number five.
	Is the UK on here?
	No, we're not.
	Bulgaria is just at number 20, the only European country in the top 20.
	Neil Poire for the Dutch.
	I don't, it doesn't even need to be said especially on this podcast but like I do, I wake up some mornings I think like it is absolutely bonkers that Europe finds itself in a situation where it's got just enormous numbers of people from you know who have no reason to be here and and you know I think that when this period of history is recorded and taught 200, 300, 400 years down the line I hope at least.
	It's going to be like, yeah, Europe kind of lost its mind for a few decades and just started importing millions and millions of people who ended up committing loads of crimes and, you know, causing havoc.
	And then anybody who complained about that fact was just called racist and was attacked and defamed and lost their jobs and lost their, you know, and all the rest of it.
	Like it's an insane situation that we're in right now.
	I think you're right, I've actually thought of that exact thing, that how will this period be looked at in decades or even centuries from now.
	Yeah.
	And I think it will be looked back upon as a type of crazed abomination of a thing.
	Yeah.
	I think it can only be understood as being like, this is the post-World War II period that we're living through and it's part of that kind of mental damage that that whole sort of series, you know, took all the wrong lessons.
	Yeah, basically.
	Misunderstood everything you could possibly learn from World War II and took out the message of import everyone.
	Yeah, but Europe hasn't, you know, we're still recovering from World War II, even though it's not, I don't know, even though it's not at the forefront of people's minds.
	I think psychologically, Europe is still recovering and this is a symptom of that.
	Remember, of course, it has been dictated to us from up on high.
	For decades, most of the normal people have said we don't want mass immigration.
	Yeah.
	And yeah, it's still happening against our will.
	Where else would the Angolans go?
	I mean Angola is what, 300 times bigger than the Netherlands?
	I don't bloody know.
	But it's massive.
	We've got the Congo here.
	There's no other place in between the Congo and Netherlands where these people could have stopped and settled and started a family and built a business.
	I guess not.
	No, they just had to come to the Netherlands.
	Why?
	Well, I don't know, maybe they were playing the law.
	And it's not just the Netherlands, we can see here these are the German elections, which is the ones I'm actually really excited about, because the sad news about this is the predictions are that Gert Wilders is not going to become Prime Minister because he won't be allowed to build a coalition, because being 25% of the vote, it's not a majority.
	Dutch politics is always coalitions.
	You need 75 out of 150 seats and he's got I think 37, so we need to build a coalition and all the other parties have said no deal.
	I mean, it would be quite funny if he turned around and said, I'm willing to negotiate literally every policy point except immigration, and they all still say no.
	So we're just utterly exposed, but that's for him to do.
	But the important thing for me, I think, is Germany, because the EU really is Germany by all means.
	And seeing Germany flip on this would be I mean, Lord, I've seen what you've done for other nations.
	Can you please do it for our friends and us?
	And you can see here the AFD now polling, they're about like 20-something percent, the second biggest party, and they've been there for a little while.
	And as you can see, there's also a small boost for some reason.
	Maybe some people have started to wake up, and I hope more do, about the effects of, well, what the Christian Democrats have done to Germany.
	Otherwise, good news all around, I think, which is good luck, The Netherlands, and we hope you more victories in future.
	I'll just end this off with promoting something, which is if you want to go and check out the merch store, there is a merch store.
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	So go do that if you like.
	Otherwise, good luck, The Netherlands.
	With that, we will move on to something more historical.
	The mouse.
	Yes.
	Oh, shh, I said.
	It's gone wrong.
	All right.
	So it's been in the news cycle the last couple of days or so.
	A bit of revisionist history.
	Love that.
	Favourite thing.
	Sort of my wheelhouse, isn't it, as the resident history nerd.
	One of the Roman emperors from the early 3rd century, the early 200s AD, Elabagulus, is actually a trans woman, turns out.
	Now, I've thought about this a bit, and in their terms... For how long?
	How many seconds did you think about this?
	Well, because the history, you can't always necessarily trust all the sources.
	But anyway, in their terms, he probably was, if not a transgender, at least a transvestite.
	He was certainly a transvestite.
	Alright.
	I was just assuming because it's the BBC it's not true.
	Well my take on this, of course they've walked it out of all recognition, but my take on this is it's not really the win I think the progressives think it might be because despite how they framed it that it's just some poor put-upon trans emperor.
	In fact, Elabiglas is one of the most degenerate, perverted sex criminals ever, a rapist, ever to have been raised to become Roman Emperor.
	Now, that is actually, I wondered whether that was going to be what this was going to be, where it just turned out he was just a complete degenerate.
	Sorry, is this, I can't remember the, I think the character from It, where they declared it a queer, um, master.
	Yeah, they kind of like a queer icon and then they started declaring like Baltimore a queer icon.
	And it was just like, why are you picking all the villains?
	And we have literally arrived at that again.
	Yeah, you don't want Elagabalus in your camp on your side of the isle.
	It's a pure embarrassment.
	Okay, so four Roman emperors, there's some bad ones, right?
	He's so bad, he's not quite as murderous as Caligula or Tiberius or something, but his degeneracy and perversions are so over the top that it's comical.
	It's, well, if you're a history nerd enough to know all the Roman emperors up to sort of Attila and up to the fall of the Western Roman Empire, up to, you know, Romulus Augustus or something, Elagabalus stands out, absolutely stands out as one of the most insane.
	So whenever I saw that this was in the news cycle, I'm like, really?
	You're claiming him?
	I mean, you're welcome to him.
	Yeah, please do!
	Okay, if you want to start labelling him as a he-her-she, as a she-her-thing, then, okay.
	What are the crimes?
	Because I'm not on the screen enough, no.
	Right, yeah.
	Okay, so, well, just to say then, so there's, it's in the mainstream news, there's a BBC link there, and then it's also been in the Telegraph, and Time Magazine did a bit, and it's all over Twitter, blowing up a little bit.
	So, on the BBC, they quoted Dr Shushma Malik of Cambridge University, a classics professor, who told the BBC, quote, the historians we use to try and understand the life of Elagabalus are extremely hostile towards him.
	Which doesn't really go into exactly why they are, but they're extremely hostile towards him.
	Because they're big meanies, that's why.
	Yeah, it's just that.
	They're just transphobes, there's nothing else to it.
	And therefore cannot be taken at face value.
	I mean, OK, so as a historian, there's some... I'll get into that at the end.
	That's OK to say something like that, but she's just lying by omission here, sort of crazily.
	She goes on, we don't have any direct evidence from Elagabalus himself of his own words.
	Yeah, yeah, OK.
	There are many examples in Roman literature of times where effeminate language and words were used as a way of criticising or weakening a political figure.
	References to Elagabalus wearing make-up, wigs and removing body hair may have been written in order to undermine the unpopular emperor.
	Yeah, maybe, but he was unpopular for more than just putting on a wig.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so obviously they're sort of lying by omission, not really telling you why he ended up being murdered by his own people and lynched and dragged through the streets and thrown in the Tiber.
	And that's the thing that Romans always did to the very worst of their rulers, is you ended up thrown in the triber, from the Gracchi onwards.
	It's a good old-fashioned Roman tradition, that.
	And it speaks volumes, doesn't it, if that's what the people do to you.
	They're not just a bit annoyed that you wore a wig or some eye makeup.
	It's more than that.
	It's that you're an enemy, you're their enemy.
	I've done the reading for a lot of people out there.
	The main sources are Cassius Dio, Herodian, the Augustan history, which is, got to be a little bit careful with that, Historia Augusta.
	So I've got a few quotes here, mainly from Cassius Dio.
	Cassius Dio was a Roman historian who lived at the time.
	So you can't really question him too much.
	You might say, or you can say, you might have a political bias and all sorts of things and that's to find his own da da da.
	You could say that.
	But still, he's a primary source.
	So it's difficult to, you can't really completely disregard what he says.
	I've also got a few quotes from Edward Gibbon, one of the greatest historians of all time.
	He wrote The Decline of the Roman Empire, a seminal work on Rome and late Rome.
	Right, and a couple of hundred years ago now, Gibbons said of Elagabalus that he never acted like a man.
	So let's get into the meat of this.
	Was he a transvestite or transgender?
	I think it's, you can't really deny he was at least a transvestite.
	That's one of the things that they do, isn't it?
	They collapse Being an actual hermaphrodite, transgender person who may or may not have gone through some surgery, and just a transvestite, just a man that likes to dress up as a woman.
	They collapse all those things, don't they, and just call it all transgender.
	Like Eddie Izzard.
	Yeah.
	Eddie Izzard, they call him transgender, or he calls himself transgender.
	But it's all queer, isn't it?
	It's all part of the same... He's just dressing up as a woman.
	Yeah.
	How is that transgender?
	It's not really transgender, is it?
	Yeah.
	But it is weirdly coincidental, though.
	He was always a guy that liked dressing up like a woman.
	And as soon as it became politically popular to go undergo surgery and change your pronouns, which was never a thing, then he jumped on board with that.
	Isn't he running in a seat now to become a Labour MP?
	Yeah, he was, yeah.
	I think originally they wanted to put him in a really Muslim seat, although they kind of backed out once someone who wasn't, you know, lukewarm IQ figured out why that might be a bad idea.
	But getting back to the Emperor... Yeah, well...
	So much so that on my channel, History Bro, years ago one of the early videos I did was a super quick top 10 rundown of the top 10 emperors that I found most interesting.
	Not the most powerful, I think, but just had the most interesting life.
	John, I don't know if you can put up that link.
	There's my channel, History Bro.
	Do subscribe, do like and subscribe.
	There's loads of content on there, especially there's like over probably 15 odd hours talking to Carl about Alexander and all sorts of things and lots of the Epochs clips.
	Anyway, one of the early videos was my Top 10 Roman Emperors, so if you could play that, I put Elagabalus at number 6.
	Okay, here's my pick for the top 10 Roman emperors, based just on the lives I find most interesting.
	Alright, here we go.
	It's a parody of 90's Top of the Pops.
	Amazing intro graphics.
	Up 6 places to number 10, Set Indefinite Limits on the Empire, with Hadrian.
	It's a new entry at 9.
	He founded the Flavian dynasty, built the Colosseum and saved Rome from civil war.
	It's for Spasian.
	Father of the Tetrarchy and only man to safely retire from office.
	It's Diocletian, up 4 at number 8.
	Up 1 at 7, it's Byzantine Emperor Heraclius, who emulated Alexander and smashed the Persians a new arsehole.
	And this week's highest new entry at number 6, it's little Noni Labagalus, who turned the Imperial Palace into a brothel and promptly pimped himself out to all and sundry.
	Down at 5, stadium massacres and a reconquest of the West with Justinian.
	Down to four, he murdered every single member of his own family but didn't fiddle while Rome burnt.
	Nero.
	Up one at three, Unite the Empire and Tower Over History by Constantine.
	And up three at two, Trajan.
	So militarily successful that the Senate could barely comprehend his string of victories.
	And still at number one for the 106,548th week in a row, it's original first citizen, Augustus.
	With, at the age of 19, on my own initiative and at my own expense, I raised an army by means of which I restored liberty to the Republic.
	Well that's my silly little list anyway.
	There you go.
	Back then, that was like four years ago I made that video, I was just sort of playing around trying to learn how to edit videos.
	That's how I imagine your brain still worked.
	And again, for anyone who doesn't know, that was a parody of Top of the Pops from the 90s.
	I didn't just make up those graphics and the song in the background and everything.
	Back then, anyone that knows at least the Western Roman Empire, Elagabalus is a standout, insane life.
	Right?
	It's just, it couldn't be more crazy, really.
	So, he became Emperor at 14 years old.
	He ruled for about four years, and was eventually beaten to a pulp and thrown in the Tiber when he was about 18 years old.
	What?
	Why was he pimping himself out?
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	Yeah.
	That, okay.
	Was it just Romans being Romans, or...?
	Because there was no check on his power.
	Well, he's the Emperor, yeah.
	Yeah.
	He could do whatever he pleased.
	The darkest depths of his soul were allowed to flourish and that's what was there.
	You know, this happened with someone like Caligula or Nero.
	Or even one of his predecessors, Caracalla.
	So let's get into it.
	Cassius Dio says...
	But this Elagabalus, who saw fit to make even the gods cohabit under due form of marriage, lived most licentiously himself from the first to last.
	He married many women and had intercourse with even more without any legal sanction.
	So he just took women.
	It's more explicit later that he's an actual rapist.
	Yet it was not that he had any need of them himself, women, but simply that he wanted to imitate their actions when he should lie with his lovers, male lovers.
	...and wanted to get accomplices in his wantonness by associating with them indiscriminately.
	He used his body both for doing and allowing many strange things.
	Remember this is someone who lived through it at the time, so...
	Which no one could endure to tell or hear of, but his most conspicuous acts, which it would be impossible to conceal, were the following.
	He would go to the taverns by night wearing a wig, so he probably was some sort of transvestite, no doubt in that, and there ply the trade of a female huckster, or hooker.
	He frequented the notorious brothels, drove out the prostitutes, and played the prostitute himself.
	This is the Roman Emperor.
	Yeah, I was gonna say, like, imagine the Prime Minister, or you run into Trump, and he's wearing a wig, and he's like, yeah, I'll suck you off for 50 bucks.
	So, aren't you the President?
	Like, actually is that- I'm pretty sure that is pretty much the South Park sketch of what happens to Mr. Garrison when he becomes Trump.
	He's like, what are you doing?
	Aren't you- are you meant to be doing the- like, running the country or something?
	And he's down at the pub in a wig.
	Yeah, I'm taking over this brothel and I'm going to be the only... I'm going to act as the only prostitute now.
	Line up, boys.
	Is there the Emperor's Diadem around anywhere here?
	Just to make sure everyone knows I am also the leader of the world.
	How much was he charging, I wonder?
	Well, he does actually charge money and boasts about how much money he gets.
	I'll get to that.
	Finally he set aside a room in the palace, and there committed indecencies, always standing nude at the door of the room, as the harlots do, and shaking the curtain which hung from gold rings, while in a soft and melting voice he solicited the passers-by.
	So, acting as a prostitute in the Imperial Palace.
	And passers-by.
	What do you mean, passers-by?
	Aren't you in the Imperial Palace?
	Well, it goes on to say, there were, of course, men who had been specially instructed to play their part.
	So it's a big laugh.
	It's just a big, giant laugh.
	He's a prostitute.
	He wanted to pretend to be a prostitute.
	Wow.
	But he's the Emperor, so he's got to It's the classic example of where you've got no one around you saying no.
	Yeah, to say the least.
	Or, in fact, the opposite, where there's everyone egging you on.
	Or you deliberately surround yourself with flatterers that tell you, no, that's hilarious and brilliant.
	Keep going.
	Go further, if anything.
	I love someone in the chat is like, that's the original biggest dickus, but... Yeah.
	Gangers bangers.
	Sorry.
	Cassius Dio goes on.
	For as in other matters, so in this business too, he had numerous agents who sought out those who could best please him by their foulness.
	Hang on, what?
	Yeah, so the people he wanted to surround himself with were sort of hand-picked to be degenerates.
	So the worse they were, the more desirable they were?
	Exactly that, yeah.
	He would collect money from his patrons and give himself airs over his games, i.e.
	he'd gloat about how much money he'd made by being a prostitute.
	The queer community was like, this is not an icon.
	He would also dispute with his associates in this shameful occupation, claiming that he had more lovers than they and took in more money.
	So he got some of his friends around him to do the same thing, competing with them and gloating when he won.
	This is the way now that he behaved alikes towards all who had such relations with him, but he had besides one favourite, quote, husband, a guy called Heracles, whom he wished to appoint Caesar for that very reason.
	Okay, so now you're getting a bit more serious now.
	So he's playing with the very nature of the state and politics, is that his favourite boyfriend he raised to be a Caesar.
	What does that mean at this point?
	Because I'm not sure about the history.
	Right, okay, so... Well, it just means one of the highest positions in the state.
	It's like an honorary position?
	Yeah, it's sort of... It would be above a consul even.
	Okay.
	It means you're sort of a co-emperor.
	Some sort of co-emperor.
	And in their relationship, Elagabalus is the woman.
	I mean, there are a couple of US politicians that come to mind, though, I'll be honest.
	Like Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton.
	Where the hell else are they, though?
	Scott Weiner?
	Scott Weiner?
	Is that his name?
	I don't know.
	He's a wiener.
	I get Elagabalus vibes from him.
	Edward Gibbon said, in quote, that Elagabalus, corrupted by his youth, his country, Syria, and his fortune, abandoned himself to the grossest pleasures with ungoverned fury, and soon found disgust and saiety in the midst of his enjoyments.
	Hang on, so he's not even a Roman?
	No, he's from Syria.
	So as Emperor we've got this foreign young boy who has decided to make himself a transvestite prostitute and has now turned the nation state into a whoreocracy.
	But according to Dr Malik, he was just an unpopular Emperor.
	It was just transphobia.
	Well there's one thing, before I go on with all the sexual degeneracy, which is funny to me, it's so over the top, so ridiculous that it's funny, but one of the things he did was about religion.
	He sort of tried to do away with all Roman religion, they were still pagans at this point, and make everyone worship a Syrian god called Elabigulus, because that isn't even his real name.
	His real name, he was born, um, Sextus Varius Avitus Battianus.
	Battianus.
	Sorry about the children in the classroom, but that is funny.
	Sextus Battianus.
	Battianus, yeah.
	We made a memory, turned out to be a complete degenerate.
	Yeah, Sextus Bassianus, yeah.
	And his sort of imperial name as emperor was Marcus Aurelius Antoninus.
	But he decided at one point to just call himself Elagabalus, or even Helio Elagabalus, which was a god that he worshipped, that he said was the one and only god that all Romans must worship now, and also I am him.
	Sorry, I'm trying to think of what is a sexist batianus.
	This is very funny.
	So that religion thing is, you know, the sexual degeneracy thing is one thing.
	But when you screw with the nature of the state, you're humiliating everything that's secular and religious as hard as you can at all times.
	So he wasn't just a misunderstood Transvestite who likes to sometimes put eye makeup on.
	He was, if you'll pardon the image, a full-throated degenerate.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	Dio tells us when trying someone in court, because even the Roman Emperor had to basically act as a magistrate, as a judge sometimes.
	When trying someone in court, he really had more or less the appearance of a man.
	But elsewhere, but everywhere else, he showed affectations in his actions and in the quality of his voice.
	For instance, he used to dance not only in the orchestra, but also, in a way, even while walking, performing sacrifices, receiving salutations, or delivering a speech.
	So, like, mincing, really.
	I mean, that's what it is, right?
	We complain in this country about having bad leaders, but like, I mean, if you literally saw your emperor, not your prime minister or some fly-by-night politician, but the emperor.
	A god emperor, a type of god emperor.
	Yeah, dancing around in makeup.
	Sorry, the chat is, um...
	I'll turn it off.
	It's too funny.
	Did they like it?
	I hope it's entertaining.
	Yeah, they're actually coming up with new names for him such as... I won't name them actually.
	But how humiliating.
	How humiliating for the people.
	And deliberately so.
	He knew what he was doing.
	Didn't know what he was doing.
	Well, perhaps he didn't.
	Perhaps he was clinically insane.
	Well, who knows?
	It's impossible to make those sorts of judgment calls 1,800 years later.
	Someone has mentioned David Cameron's Pig Adventures.
	Oh, the pig incident.
	That's not as bad now.
	At least that was behind closed doors.
	Well, that sort of sounds alright now, doesn't it?
	Well, that's just a laugh.
	That's just japes.
	Matty Anus or Cameron.
	And finally, to go back now to the story which I began, he was bestowed in marriage and was termed wife, mistress and queen.
	So he married that guy, Heraklion, and he took the female role.
	He worked with wool, very female things do, sometimes wore a hairnet and painted his eyes, daubing them with white lead and green pigment.
	Once, indeed, he shaved his chin and held a festival to mark the event, i.e.
	formally becoming a man.
	But after that, he had the hairs plucked out so as to look more like a woman, end quote.
	Now, that's where a modern historian can say, oh, look, you know, he is at least a transvestite, perhaps not transgender.
	But you can see how the left have sort of latched onto that.
	They've suddenly remembered the account in Cassius Dio that says all this.
	I don't know how, they've only suddenly discovered it.
	I mean, I don't know if we can get up the article, but I wonder, because they've probably mentioned none of that, right?
	They've just mentioned the line, oh he had his leg hairs plucked.
	Yeah, no, exactly.
	That's all they've read though?
	She picked, I don't know.
	There's no way they read that Batty Anus turned the Imperial Palace into a whorehouse and dressed up as a woman to have sex with random people in charge of the money and had a competition with his mates about it.
	If she's a professor of classics, she probably has read it and is very, very deliberately omitting all of that and just pick out the bit that Ibu or I make up.
	Well, in that case, then they've actually read all that and gone, yes, queen, queer icon.
	I mean, sincerely, that's not even a surprise.
	Believe them.
	You know, when they say these things, just, yeah, I think they are embracing this person.
	Edward Gibbons says, a capricious prodigality supplied the want of taste and elegance, and whilst Elagabalus lavished away the treasures of his people in the wildest extravagance, His own voice and that of his flatterers applauded a spirit and magnificence unknown to the tameness of his predecessors.
	So even people like Caligula and Nero never sort of went this far.
	To confound the order of the seasons and climates, to sport with the passions and prejudices of his subjects, just like to humiliate them on a daily basis in every way he could, and to subject every law of nature and decency were in the number of his most delicious amusements.
	A long train of concubines and a rapid succession of wives among whom was a Vestal Virgin ravished by force from her sacred asylum.
	So a rape, a full-blown kidnapped rapist.
	But not just a rapist, raping a Vestal Virgin.
	Yeah, a Vestal Virgin, yeah.
	I mean, do you want to explain that properly?
	Well, there was, yeah, there was the cult or religion of the Vestals.
	They were supposed to be, obviously, virgins, supposed to be purer than pure.
	You don't touch them.
	You don't touch them.
	Like isn't it the death penalty if you assault them?
	They're just like ultra nuns, yeah.
	If they did anything, they get killed.
	They're supposed to sort of personify the purity and sanctity of Rome itself in some way.
	So yeah, just to abduct one and take her to life against her will and rape her is sort of as bad as it gets.
	But it's not just Eurorapists, it's a high crime against Roman culture itself.
	I mean, upon all the rest of others.
	Giving goes on.
	The master of the Roman world, affected to copy the dress and manners of the female sex, preferred the distaff to the sceptre, and dishonoured the principal dignities of the empire by distributing them among his numerous lovers, i.e.
	all the most important people, the senators and things.
	He would force them to marry the hand-picked degenerates he had.
	Again, just to endlessly humiliate them, really.
	And one of whom was publicly invested with the title and authority of the Empress.
	That was his quote-unquote husband.
	Yeah, and he styled himself the Empress's husband.
	The Empress being Elagabalus.
	Well, one little anecdote, which I haven't got the quote here, but Elagabalus liked to cheat on his quote-unquote husband, but deliberately get caught by him and then get beaten up by him.
	He liked that.
	He made that happen.
	Wow.
	To be a sort of a beaten wife.
	You did not undersell the level of degeneracy.
	I'm speechless.
	Yeah.
	We're running out of time unfortunately.
	Oh okay so all right super quick.
	We'll have to get to the point I suppose.
	I've got loads more quotes.
	Well okay I'll just read one more by Gibbon and then his death.
	Because this is the bit where that historian right at the beginning could be forgiven on some small level for saying that he's been sort of hard done by in terms of how he's remembered because the Emperor directly after him and Alexander, Septimius Alexander, it was in his best interests
	to paint his predecessor as perhaps more mad and degenerate and perverted than he really was but nonetheless Gibbons says this it may seem probable The vices and follies of Elagabalus have been adorned by fancy and blackened by prejudice.
	Yet, confining ourselves to the public scenes displayed before the Roman people and attested to by grave and contemporary historians, like Dio, their inexpressible infamy surpasses that of any other age or country.
	So again, if the progressive left want to claim Elagabalus as one of their own, they're welcome to him.
	One of the worst of all time.
	The license of an Eastern monarch is secluded from the eye of curiosity by the inaccessible walls of his seraglio, which is like a harem where women are kept.
	The sentiments of honour and gallantry have introduced a refinement of pleasure, a regard for decency and a respect for public opinion into modern courts of Europe, but the corrupt and opulent nobles of Rome gratified every vice that could be collected from the weighty influx of nations and manners Secure of impunity, careless of censure, they lived without restraint in the patient and humble society of their slaves and parasites.
	The emperor, in his turn, viewing every rank of his subjects with the same contemptuous indifference, asserted without control his sovereign privilege of lust and luxury.
	So a monster, basically a monster.
	So just...
	Be careful when you read a mainstream thing in the Telegraph or BBC or Time Magazine.
	The iceberg behind this matter is large and horrific.
	And well, finally he got his comeuppance because we're told he made an attempt to flee.
	This is after the Praetorians and the army had decided that enough was enough after about four years.
	Oh, and his mother was sort of the eminence grise, the power behind the throne and put him there and tried to keep him there.
	He made an attempt to flee and would have got away somewhere by being placed in a chest had he not been discovered and slain at the age of 18.
	His mother, who embraced him and clung tightly to him, perished with him.
	Their heads were cut off and their bodies, after being stripped naked, were first dragged all over the city and then the mother's body was cast aside somewhere or other whilst his was thrown into the Tiber.
	So it wasn't just an unpopular emperor who was sort of slandered for being a bit queer, which is how that BBC article frames it.
	He was a monstrous degenerate, one of the worst of all time, to the point of it being, it's comical really, right?
	So over the top.
	Something the Dark Eldar would do.
	How often did this happen where they were, you know, dragged out, beheaded, thrown into the Tiber and all the rest of it?
	Fairly often through the crisis of the third century.
	Sometimes the Roman emperor would be proclaimed emperor by his men and later that day killed once or twice.
	It got to insane lengths at different periods.
	But yeah, it's actually not a bad innings, four years.
	It's actually not a bad innings to be quite honest.
	He sounds like he had his fun as well.
	But the Romans did, it wasn't rare that you ended up a bag of bones being flung into the Tiber.
	So there you go, just wanted to put a bit of colour, a bit of flesh on the bones of the story of Elagabalus.
	The newest queer icon.
	Yeah, right.
	So yeah, welcome to it.
	Well on that note I suppose we shall move to the immigration data and all the joys this is going to be.
	Yeah, so gents I hope you're ready for some black pills because at 9.30 this morning the Office for National Statistics released several data sets on population and immigration.
	So I think you two are perhaps two of the best members of the team to talk about this because I know you both feel strongly about it, have good knowledge about it, so since we're tight of time we'll get right into it.
	The data as I say was released at half nine this morning and the first one that we've got here is on population estimates for England and Wales and I thought we'd start with this one because I just want you to keep these figures in mind as we move forward into the immigration data.
	So the population of England and Wales at mid-year 2022 was estimated to be 60.2 million, an increase of around 578,000, brackets 1%, since mid-year 2021.
	In the year to mid-2022, there were 574,000 deaths in England and Wales, slightly fewer than in the previous year.
	The number of births in the year to mid-2022 was 620,000 which was an increase of 11,000 compared to the year to mid-2021.
	And I will say this is a little bit dry obviously going through all these statistics but I think it's important to understand So in the year to mid-2022, we estimate that 983,000 people immigrated to England and Wales from outside the UK, while 441,000 emigrated.
	83,000 people immigrated to England and Wales from outside the UK, while 441,000 emigrated.
	This makes net international migration to England and Wales 541,000.
	In the year to mid-2022, there were 9,800 net in total moves out of England and Wales to the rest of the UK.
	In The population of England increased at a higher rate than the population of Wales.
	So 60.2 million.
	That's the top line figure here.
	That's the population of England and Wales in mid-2022.
	So keep that number in you as we move forward.
	So the next data set that we'll look at is the estimating the UK international migration from 2012 to 2021.
	So total long-term immigration between year-ending June 2012 and year-ending June 2021 was around 7.4 million.
	And emigration of 5.2 million.
	This means that net immigration over the decade added up to 2.2 million.
	Added 2.2 million to the UK population.
	In 10 years, 10% of the population, more than 10% are changed.
	Correct.
	Great.
	Great.
	Thanks.
	Approximately 232,000 less than indicated by our previously published estimates.
	So, hey, not as bad as it could be, I guess.
	Cashback.
	Yeah.
	These are the ones they have on file.
	Well, that's a good point, yeah.
	These are just the ones that are in the system.
	So, total net migration of EU nationals between year ending June 2012 and June 2021 was around 1.9 million, an increase of 745,000 compared with our previously published estimates.
	Revised total net migration of non-EU nationals is 1.1 million.
	Moving on, we will go to The most important one in my opinion, the one that's getting all the headlines, and that is immigration for the year ending June 2023.
	So, the provisional estimate of total long-term immigration for year ending June 2023 was 1.2 million, while emigration was 508,000, meaning that net migration was 672,000.
	was 508,000, meaning that net migration was 672,000.
	Just to be clear, that's 672,000 new people added to the population of this country.
	Not born here.
	Most people arriving to the UK in the year ending June 2023 were non-EU.
	EU nationals, 968,000, followed by EU, 129,000, and British, 84,000.
	Net migration for year-ending June 2023 was 672,000, which is slightly higher compared with year-ending June 2022, which was 607,000, but down on our updated estimate for year-ending December 2022, which was 745,000.
	While it is too early to say if this is the start of a new downward trend, these more recent estimates indicate a slowing of immigration coupled with increasing emigration. - Okay.
	We'll get to it.
	We'll get through the data and then we will talk about the implications of this.
	Before the coronavirus pandemic, migration was relatively stable, but patterns and behaviours have been shifting considerably since then.
	Net migration increased sharply since 2021 because of a rise in non-EU immigration driven by a range of factors, including those arriving on humanitarian routes, including Ukrainian and British national schemes, as well as an increase in non-EU students and workers.
	Put a pin in that.
	The increase in non-EU immigration in the year ending June 2023 was mainly driven by migrants coming for work, up to 33% from 23% in year ending June 2022, largely attributed to those coming on health and care visas.
	In contrast, those arriving on humanitarian routes decreased from 19% to 9% over the same period.
	The largest contributor to non-EU immigration, 39%, was study, which was largely unchanged compared with year ending June 2022.
	However, while historic evidence has shown that more than 80% of students typically left within five years, analysis of more recent cohorts is suggesting that more are staying for longer and transitioning onto work visas.
	There have also been changes in the number of dependents coming to the UK.
	In the year ending June 2019, dependents accounted for 6% of non-EU student immigration and 37% of non-EU work immigration, which increased to 25% and 48% respectively in the year ending June 2023.
	The final data set that we're going to look at is the reasons for international migration.
	So for the year ending June 2023, net migration of international students who initially arrived in the UK on a study-related visa was 263,000.
	This includes those who transitioned onto a different visa type during their time in the UK.
	Using the visa-at-first-arrival approach to estimate net international student migration is consistent with our long-term immigration estimates, but it doesn't account for actual student behaviours while in the UK.
	So the newly developed cohort approach suggests that the majority of long-term international students from year-ending June 2018 emigrated within five years.
	Nevertheless.
	So on average, our research also, this is when I say ours, ONS.
	On average, their research also suggests that more recent cohorts of students are staying in the UK for longer.
	For the academic year covering 1st of September 2021 to 31st of August 2022, 35% of students had emigrated long term at the end of their initial study visa, compared with 61% for the 2019 to 2020 academic cohort year.
	So, that's the data.
	I'll let that just sit and digest for a second, because it's a lot of figures, but it's just supremely depressing.
	And, I don't know, it's just, it's civilization-ending numbers that we're talking about here.
	So there's always a debate about immigration, it's effects, Nigel Farage will bring up, he just did on I'm a Celebrity about, what is it, GP waiting lists or school placements.
	Um, buying a house, God, what a luxury that would be.
	But the thing that terrifies me when I read something like that is you've got about 2% replacement rate every single year is what you're talking about there.
	And the average age of buying a house in this country is now above 30, 30 something.
	So let's say you're one of those lucky bastards that works your life off and then you're about 30 right now so you can buy a house.
	So you do.
	And you're lucky enough to buy it in an area, let's just assume it's 100% English because you want to live in English neighborhood and raise a child in English neighborhood.
	So you have your child immediately, and then it takes about 20 odd years until that child can finally move out.
	At which point, you decide to buy a house and have a child in an English neighborhood, and by the time that child leaves and you're 50-something looking about when to retire, you now live in an Indian neighborhood.
	That pisses me off.
	I can't stand the idea of The state thinking that young people in this country should make a massive investment in the decades of their lives and their financial wealth into building up this country, when in return what the state will give you through the immigration process is to utterly change whatever you invested in, and too bad.
	That's the thing that really, really hurts me, I'm honest.
	And if you complain about that, then you're evil, basically.
	You'll be villainised and demonised.
	I tweeted the other day that in the face of this information coming out, I think basically every other issue in British politics that we talk about, whether it is the NHS, whether it is schools, housing or anything else, that's all secondary to this.
	This is the most pressing issue of our time.
	It is the defining issue.
	In Britain, is mass immigration.
	Because these figures, again, under a nominally conservative government, obviously not that anybody believes that at this stage, it's just historically unprecedented.
	It's absolutely insane.
	That was the point I was going to make.
	We said in the first segment that how will history look back at these last few decades, let's say since Blair, how will historians judge the elites that did this to us?
	It is a crime without precedent.
	Yes.
	Is one of the most egregious and despicable things that has ever been done.
	Yeah.
	To, to England or to Britain.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Without precedent.
	You're absolutely right.
	And all the other crises that we have, whether it be housing or the NHS or schools or anything, where all boils down to, if you're just going to cram half a million, three quarters of a million people year on year, year after year into the country, Yeah, you're going to have infrastructure falling apart because it simply cannot handle it.
	And that should be obvious.
	That should not be a surprising thing for people.
	Well, I think the same people that do it want that to happen.
	They mean the destruction of our And that ultimately is the question.
	At this point, I think a lot of people, normal people in the general public, must be starting to think, this is something that's being done to us, intentionally.
	Because this is not just, you know, the arguments are always made, the economy and all the rest of it, think of the GDP, line go up.
	And I think there is probably a large segment of the elites who still actually believe that, who still believe the sort of economic arguments for mass immigration.
	I think you look at this and you think there is no other way of interpreting this than this is just destruction.
	It's a destructive thing.
	You know, people living, as you said Callum, in their neighbourhoods that they've spent their whole lives in, watching them radically change over a period of, well, I mean in this data, 2012 to 2021.
	Just radical change.
	Unrecognisably different.
	And the thing that is sort of impossible to ignore is the evidence of your own eyes, because in every town, every city and town, Even quite small places.
	You immediately walk outside and you're confronted with just a slew of foreign people.
	And that was not the case a small number of years ago.
	A small number of years ago it was not the case.
	You just hear a plethora of foreign languages being spoken.
	Everywhere you go, even down to really quite small towns.
	And so I don't know how anyone can ignore the evidence of their own eyes and ears anymore, that a replacement, in inverted commas, not only is happening, has happened.
	One note of hope I would like to say is that it can be reversed.
	You do need a government with a set of balls that are prepared to deport.
	Imagine that.
	That are actually prepared to deport hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people.
	So it can be reversed.
	But yeah, the scale of this crime is unprecedented.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I thought we'd have a look very quickly at a couple of the reactions as well to this information coming out.
	Now, this one I've got on here I've not actually put on the document so I'll just have to read from here.
	The headline from Andy Sylvester at City AM.
	Immigration is rocketing and that's brilliant news for Britain.
	Immigration, or rather, sorry, some good news for Britain then.
	Loads of people want to live here.
	At a time when cheer is in short supply in the news pages, today's net migration stats should come as a welcome morale boost.
	Of course, we don't live in that world.
	Immigration to Britain is, according to the public narrative, largely a very bad thing.
	Capital VBT.
	Seven years after the Brexit referendum, immigration is once again in the top couple of issues for the great British voter.
	And those who are thinking about it are not, as a rule, hanging the Open for Business sign around the country.
	Can I just say, so this guy identifies himself, he literally calls himself a metropolitan elite member, and this kind of sneering, smarmy, looking down on attitude of these types, I think is just, well again, when we're talking about how history will report this period, I don't think history will reflect, will speak well of these sorts.
	They'll be judged harshly, I would think.
	One would hope.
	That's a shame emotionally, and in a country that is by most metrics far more welcoming than any of its European neighbours, it should be seen as a competitive advantage to have hundreds of thousands of people wanting to share our national story.
	Is that what's happening?
	Are these hundreds of thousands of people, the 2.2 million additional people that have come since 2012, do they want to share our national story?
	Is that what's happening?
	They're just really into spitfires and watching Only Fools and Horses.
	They just love shortbreads and fish and chips, you know.
	Yeah, I mean, it is a terrible thing.
	What are the benefits, though, supposed to be?
	They quite often say the food, but obviously we've got recipes, so we don't need them.
	Yeah, food is fungible.
	We don't need them.
	So what would somebody like that at this point argue are the benefits?
	I couldn't tell you.
	I mean, there's the whole who's going to serve my coffee and prep line, which comes downstream from the economic argument.
	But again, I'm not even convinced these people even think that.
	Let's just get real for a second here.
	These are people who are oikophobes.
	They hate their own culture.
	They hate their own people.
	For whatever reason, whether that's because of how they've been educated or who they've been surrounded by.
	But that's the impression I get of a lot of these types.
	It's not about love.
	It's not about welcoming people in.
	It's about crushing people.
	Crushing the people who are here already.
	Callum, your face is a picture.
	Yeah, I'm not very happy.
	No.
	Anyway, I'll move on to this next article.
	This one.
	Without more immigration, we will fail to build a future-focused Britain.
	Now, I'm not going to read through this one, but the point I'm making here is that there is still a significant contingent of the intelligentsia, of the journalistic class, who are going to bat for mass immigration in the face of the numbers that have come out today.
	Without any consideration for the damage that it's doing.
	You know, it's only... I mean, here.
	Future-focused Britain.
	I mean, in this article they talk about AI.
	I mean, here, you've got the AI Safety Summit with Rishi Sunak here.
	It's all about growth, economics, and all the rest of it.
	Not about the culture and the fabric of the country and what's being done to it.
	Her name was Emily Jones.
	Yes.
	His name was Sir David Amis.
	Don't mention any of that, no, it's just build a better, more packed Britain.
	Madness.
	A real madness.
	Yeah.
	So, Rishi Sunak has come out to say he's looking at further ways to curb immigration.
	And this is something I wanted to touch on, because in the report by the ONS, they say about how there's a downward trend.
	It's looking as though immigration might be going down, as if immigration is just something that just happens.
	It just happens.
	It's like, you know, it's like the changing of the seasons.
	It's like weather.
	It's just something that goes on.
	Not something that's done.
	Not something that's actively, you know, made happen.
	And so Sunak, like it says here, he's actively looking at measures to cut legal immigration to the UK, ahead of figures this week expected to show a further increase in the numbers arriving now.
	Obviously, we've just been through those figures and they are astonishing.
	So the government has introduced measures to prevent overseas students bringing dependents with them and was actively looking at what more can be done to reduce legal migration.
	The spokesman said... Sorry, this is just an obvious lie.
	Yeah, well, we'll get to that, don't worry.
	We have the big WhatsApp chats.
	We have the people who are in government who met him and have now gone out and said, yeah, I spoke to him about lowering immigration and he literally just said no.
	He doesn't care.
	He doesn't care or he actively wants it.
	It's one or the other.
	But I can't.
	I was talking to someone earlier and he remembered a line which I didn't know, which is that David Cameron, when he was in the coalition with Nick Clegg at the Conservative Party conference, he decided to come out and say that, well, you should have seen his face when I told Nick Clegg what I really thought of the European Union and the seals in the conference clap, because of course they did.
	David Cameron, the man who, yeah, totally hates the EU, trust me.
	It's so transparent how pathetic this propaganda is.
	Trust me, bro, the guys who have done this are totally looking at stopping it.
	Yeah.
	You've done it on purpose!
	So you stabbed me and then went, oh I'm sorry, I'll totally look into stabbing you less.
	Stab, stab, stab.
	Yeah.
	It's like with the reduction of immigration from six or seven hundred thousand down to merely five hundred thousand or something.
	Yeah.
	It's like inflation is down from seven percent to five percent.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so I'm being destroyed and ruined and assaulted.
	At a slightly slower rate.
	Yeah, at a slightly slower rate.
	Great.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I just thought this end part of this article was funny.
	A spokesman said, obviously we want to see legal immigration full.
	Obviously.
	Is it not obvious?
	No, liar.
	No, you do.
	You want it up.
	King liars.
	I'm sorry, but the individual human beings here are lying to us and they know it.
	Obviously there's no single measure to reduce immigration.
	Yes, there is.
	Yes, there literally is.
	No.
	No.
	There are some global factors in play.
	The pandemic and our humanitarian schemes.
	And obviously, the number of times this guy says obviously.
	Obviously our priority still remains small boat crossings.
	And if it's like Suella Braverman's letter is to be believed, they don't even care about that.
	I mean, it's a useful misdirection, the illegal immigration issue, away from this, what we're talking about now.
	But you know, to say that their priority remains the small boat crossings, that's not even true.
	And even if it was true, that would be the wrong priority to have.
	And obviously we need to do that while balancing the priority of growing the economy and understanding things like the economic benefits that students can bring, for example.
	End of the article.
	It's a little bit bigoted of you try to have noticed all these things really.
	So I'm told.
	It's sort of on the same moral level as a Nazi guard.
	yes really yeah don't want to say it out loud but you know that is yes yes so anyway I thought we'd uh just have a little conversation about this now I mean this last one I put in here I won't read from this but it was uh get a grip Rishi Britain is not a hotel for immigrants it is our home from Alison Pearson at the Telegraph and it's like yeah you know there are as much as there are journalists who are still very pro-mass immigration there is a mainstream dialogue about you know what what the next steps are on uh on this issue um
	But again, do we trust the Telegraph?
	Do we?
	I don't know.
	We'll see.
	Not really.
	No.
	But yeah, I thought we'd just get into it.
	I had a few other points I wanted to make here, because I know that time is short.
	But one of the main problems that this data really highlighted was actually international students.
	And I think that this is... And the chain migration that comes with it.
	Yes, yes.
	But it's so obvious why this is the case, because I only graduated university in July of this year, and at my university, Like you say, you go out and you hear foreign languages being spoken on campus.
	I was in Surrey, which is so bizarre, but I was paying £9,250 a year on my tuition fees, whereas international students have to pay, for the same degree, £23,800 a year.
	So it's no surprise that the universities themselves want to bring in as many international students as possible, because it's a payday.
	My god, it's more than double.
	That is the reason.
	Good for them, what percentage am I getting?
	Yeah, well exactly.
	Zero.
	Okay, well then maybe I won't vote for this.
	Yeah.
	What happens as well, because I happen to know people who did this, when they come over they do pay all that money, and then they just stay.
	Yes, many such cases.
	What's the hell I'm supposed to do?
	Nothing.
	I knew him, he literally just sat here, illegal visa, never renewed it, and he's still here.
	Never passed his course either.
	There is plenty of that happening.
	But something else that I wanted to highlight is the fact that in the data that talks about population between 2012 and 2021, it does list an emigration of 5.2 million.
	Now Karl has made this point before I know, he says that there are so many leaving every year that if we were to just close the gates as it were, then to a certain extent the problem might solve itself because of the numbers leaving.
	Now I'm not sure I'm totally in agreement with... One fifth of that is British people leaving?
	And that was going to be what I was going to say.
	I don't have the demographic breakdown of that 5.2 million but it's not going to just be foreigners you know.
	But my conclusion here is basically there are just simply too many people in Britain and you know that fewer people, if there were fewer people There's more to go around, there's more space, there's more jobs, there's more money.
	And I think that one of the things that... Imagine if the average size of a house in the UK was the same as an American's.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	Dream, dare to believe!
	One of the things to say where you said that the main number is 60 million total, I mean, we all know that's nonsense.
	No, that's way, way under.
	Way under, because what the Office of National Statistics says, and what Tesco says, Are very different.
	And others as well.
	To the tune of millions of people.
	Yeah.
	So there's actually millions more people.
	But one of the things that I think that a lot of people on our side of things get wrong is the kind of, you know, every family should be having five kids and the population should be growing and the replacement rate should, you know, the birth rate should be four, five, six, you know, the rest of it.
	I actually don't think that's desirable either.
	I don't think that this is desirable unless if that wasn't evident.
	But I think that a growing population A population that is just exponentially growing with no sort of apparent end point is not desirable.
	Because the country gets filled up, things are more scarce.
	And so actually, a lower population is desirable.
	I think that population levels tend to kind of reach, if left to their own devices, naturally reach an equilibrium where there's enough people for things to work, but there's not so many people that, well, things don't work, frankly.
	I have some good news.
	It's not.
	Hasn't been for years.
	Yeah, well, I know that.
	And sure, an aging population is not desirable.
	But if this is the alternative, then I take the aging population, I'm afraid.
	It's not an alternative.
	It's a fucking lie that's sold to us every year.
	So I'm very, very mad about this.
	No, no.
	The example I just gave you, let's say you buy into an English neighborhood, and then by the time you're looking at retirement, you live in a Pakistani neighborhood.
	Oh, great.
	Thank you.
	What a good deal that has been to sign up with UKGov Incorporated there in investing your time and money into building a neighborhood.
	Yes.
	You know, this is the thing that gets me about the Eastern world, because of all the problems Vladimir Putin has.
	You go and buy an apartment in Kaliningrad, by the time you're having your kids and you're done with that, that will still be the same damn place?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, there are downsides, but there are downsides here.
	But I just wanted to point out just this funny little graph here, that the population of England in 1086 was 1.71 million.
	Can you imagine it?
	Deep state book, isn't it?
	1086?
	I mean, that is a thousand years ago.
	We can see there about 1800 was the Industrial Revolution.
	Explodes the population.
	But anyway, I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of viewers on the sort of population size question, because I do think that a lot of people are committed to this kind of fantasy, this ideal, this utopian ideal of everyone's having loads of kids and all the rest of it, and I just don't think that that's actually as desirable as people think it is.
	Interesting question, interesting debate.
	It's not as clear cut as it first seems.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you want to grow the population, the way to do that is with your own group.
	Yes, of course, yeah.
	Of course.
	Anyway, we'll leave that there.
	As you know, one last thing, because this was important, because obviously Nigel Farage is on I'm a Celebrity, and he yesterday had a conversation on mainstream TV about immigration, and I think he came across actually extremely well.
	I'm not keen on him being on I'm a Celebrity, But I think that this can only be a good thing.
	But this is what I was saying to you.
	Because apparently you're anti-immigrants.
	Who told you that?
	Oh, the internet.
	Oh, well there we are then.
	It must be true.
	It must be true.
	It must be.
	It must be true.
	OK, but then why don't black people like you?
	You'd be amazed, they do.
	Nigel!
	If you came with me through South London, you'd be astonished.
	Wow, what were you doing in South London, Nigel?
	Well, I'm there every day.
	You're in South?
	Wait, sorry, I'm so sorry to be shouting.
	He's from South London.
	I travel through South London.
	So everyone hates you for no reason?
	Not that everyone hates you, that was so bad.
	You can disagree with somebody, but to chuck around accusations the way that they've been chucked around is grossly unfair.
	Anti-immigrant, right?
	No, no, all I've said is we cannot go on with the numbers coming to Britain that are coming.
	Do you know why?
	I'm one of the numbers!
	Right, so that's it then?
	So should it be five million a year?
	Ten million?
	Question mark.
	Nigel, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	There's immigrants that are coming in.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Think, think, think.
	I did not expect to be caught in a full-on debate.
	Who's that black woman?
	An influencer called Nella, apparently.
	You ever heard of her before?
	I had never come across her before.
	Such as me then.
	But, I mean, I think that in the popular, among normal people, that exchange is going to have been actually really quite powerful.
	Because it shows, I mean, that's quite an accurate representation, I think, of the two sides of this debate.
	Just very, Nigel Farage, very reasonable.
	you know, how many should it be?
	5 million, 10 million?
	No, there has to be a cap.
	And the way things are right now, it's way too high.
	And the other side is just screaming in his face, screeching at him.
	Racist!
	And it's just like, God.
	But to normal people, I think that will have really endeared them to Farage.
	So, anyway, unless you had any more points, gents, I think we'll call it a day there.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	So here is some admitted American practice slot.
	But it is covered with our sausage gravy, Connor.
	And this is amazing sausage gravy.
	This is like five eggs over well, half pound of bacon, a whole bunch of hash browns chopped up with diced peppers, and there is American breakfast sausage.
	I'm really trying to like America, and Joshua is doing everything in his power to make me hate it.
	Please view your comments.
	This is like the fourth one now, where he's showing me something that is slop and gone.
	Doesn't it look great?
	I'm just like, God bless the USA.
	It doesn't look like slop, but also quite tasty, I must admit.
	You like the biscuit and gravy sauce?
	I'm not sure if I've ever actually had it exactly.
	I have had that sort of whitish sauce before.
	It is good.
	Aren't biscuits basically scones in America?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	They're more like...
	I can't describe it.
	Rusks.
	Yeah, okay.
	I think they do them slightly differently in different places in America to be fair.
	I don't want to be too rude, but that Joshua chap is too heavy.
	No, he's built.
	Is he?
	Yeah, he's proper built.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so he needs the food because he can beat the crap out of all of us.
	Okay, I'm sure of that.
	Oh, no doubt about that.
	But, um, a giant plate of cholesterol is probably not the best.
	I've still got, because I remember he came over, because I think this is a trait of his as well, where he gave me some chewing tobacco, which was a lovely gift.
	It's exotic and somewhat American.
	He gives me this and we try it.
	It's the worst thing I've ever done.
	It's just awful.
	Does it just make your head spin out?
	No, no.
	The worst part is you put it in there and you can't talk for the rest of the evening because you've got this pile of fucking Naraco in your mouth.
	And then because you're constantly spitting as well, which makes you feel disgusting and it tastes awful.
	And I'm just like, why do people do this?
	I've had short tobacco before and it was pretty gross.
	Yeah.
	For me, it was just like the biggest nicotine hit ever.
	This is the equivalent of trying to show someone British culture and we just give them, like, unseasoned boiled chicken or something.
	It's just like, yes, British cuisine.
	Literally the stereotypes of the things that foreigners don't like.
	If we did that.
	Just a bowl of plain boiled potatoes.
	Yeah.
	I'm not trying to be too mean, Joshua.
	He'll take it in good stride.
	It looked nice, actually.
	To be honest, I would eat a plate of that.
	But there is some good banter to be had about this.
	So let's go to the next one.
	Hey Lotus Eaters, just learned that I passed my power engineering course.
	Very happy.
	And if you ever want to learn a good useful skill that'll get you a good paying job, learn how to use one of these things.
	It's a power boiler.
	Good for you.
	Good advice.
	Sounds like a good practical thing.
	Yeah.
	Next one.
	Hey guys.
	Thank you very much for everything.
	I've updated the website and I'm at a loss for words.
	God bless you everybody who helped, who's helping, and thank you Lotus Eaters for having the videos on.
	If anyone wants to talk, my Twitter handle is the same as my screen name.
	There we are.
	Well, all the best, mate.
	And people who don't know, Nick is going through testicular cancer, so not having the funnest of times.
	So, all the best, mate.
	Yeah, all the best.
	Yeah, next one.
	Hello, everyone.
	Hello, Americans.
	This one's for you.
	Ahead of the zombie apocalypse debate later, I just wanted to let you know that legal gun ownership is a thing in the UK.
	We just don't talk about it much because people in towns and cities watch American television, which tells them that there is no legal gun ownership in the UK.
	I'd be enormously surprised if Dan doesn't have a few shotguns.
	And Josh, if you don't own a shotgun, you are letting the side down, old boy.
	Come on.
	Well, I'll pass it on.
	I don't know if Dan does.
	I know he's in the Range Rover Club Society.
	You can own all types of shotguns and rifles.
	It's very difficult, I think, if possible, to get pistols.
	Yeah, unless you're in Northern Ireland.
	It's very difficult, if not impossible, to get a pistol, but you can get a rifle, shotguns, lots of sorts of shotguns.
	I've looked at it a fair bit because obviously I love them, but one of the problems I've got is I'm renting, so I can't install a safe without the landlord's permission.
	He's a gallant.
	Well, you do have to jump through loads of hoops, like the ammo has to be in a special box.
	You have to jump through loads of hoops, bureaucratic red tape and stuff, but you can own a rifle or a shotgun.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Harry, calm down, mate.
	You have successfully commandeered one of the invader's boats, and taken its passengers hostage.
	What now?
	Now listen here, you little dingy drifting twat.
	Tell me where the boats are setting sail from now, or I'll dropkick you off this plank.
	Roll for an intimidation check.
	Um... Yes?
	That's a three.
	Not only does your attempt to intimidate your captives fail, but they also begin to break free from the poorly crafted binds, and begin walking towards you.
	Cheat it, boys!
	These are going to end up being compiled into a storybook which I think everyone will love.
	Some AI generated D&D sessions.
	I suppose we'll go to the written comments, very quickly.
	So, DLV says, can't recommend History Bro's channel enough, his chats on Stalin and Mao are ridiculously good.
	And I can concur, because we did one about Mao a while back, Lotus Eaters, what was it called?
	Mao's Great Famine?
	Was that the one we did together?
	Yeah.
	Which, I remember, I don't know if we ever uploaded them, I took loads of shorts out as well, because I just really loved that conversation, how brutal that situation was.
	Oh yeah, and on History Bro, there's like a, I can't remember, 10, no, 15 part, 18 part series on Mal.
	With Diane Abbott.
	And the great... It was co-hosted.
	Yeah.
	To provide balance, you know.
	No, sincerely, you cut in like a load of clips of her being like, wow, Mal did more good than harm.
	Yeah, she said that on TV.
	Yeah, I know, I know.
	Right, right, right, yeah.
	So I played that clip a fair few times.
	And we're talking about maggots eating babies alive in the daycares.
	Yeah, I remember listening to the Mal's Great Famine book club, yeah.
	Grim.
	Horrible.
	Really horrible.
	Alexander Drake says, happy Thanksgiving from the United States.
	So, happy Thanksgiving, boys.
	So, Dutch has a plan.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, fleeing prosecution is not the same as fleeing persecution.
	Question is, are officials willing to send those fleeing prosecution for war crimes back, facing little backlash?
	My guess would be no, they're not willing to actually send criminals back.
	Yeah, I mean, we're talking about war criminals as well when we're talking about ISIS.
	I mean, I don't know.
	How much of a rant I would go on if I started but sincerely every single one of those persons should have died in the war and I'm glad that the Americans and their coalition killed I think it's about 70,000 ISIS fighters as it's listed and you rarely get a modern conflict where you get that many dead in such a small period of time and everyone who was involved in destroying ISIS is an utter chad and they deserve nothing less and frankly deserved a lot more extermination of their fighters because they're just
	I would say that argument that I can't be deported because I'll face possibly human rights abuses in my home country.
	If I were in charge of things, if I was Lord Protector, I would say I'm putting zero store in that.
	That was on you.
	Whatever you did in your country of origin, you've got to face justice for that then.
	That's nothing to do with us anymore.
	You cannot hide behind that one iota.
	But again, you'd need a government with a set of balls on them.
	Yeah.
	It's all you need, in fact.
	The political will, rather.
	Let's put it more diplomatically.
	So on The Emperor, The Crusader says... I'm just going to say The Emperor because I can't read his bloody name.
	On Emperor, what's one of the left's rallying cries?
	Sex work is real work.
	Upon seeing him as a queer icon, it actually tracks perfectly.
	There we are.
	Matt also says, did he slash her kill himself by any chance?
	I don't know, because he ended up getting killed by the mob.
	Yeah, he was lynched by the Roman mob.
	The urban mob, always Praetorians.
	Hector Rex says, this guy was like the living Monty Python sketch come to life.
	A throat fuckius has a friend, you know?
	Well, there was one quote I didn't read out because I was strapped for time, but someone hails him as emperor and he says, don't call me emperor because I'm a lady.
	Ouch.
	Which is literally like the Little Britain skit.
	I'm the only whore in this empire.
	I'm going to read some because now we're off YouTube.
	Some of the names that we're calling him was Gapus Anus.
	That was a good one.
	Suckus Cockus.
	Another friend of his.
	I do imagine his friends, like if he's called, what was it, Sextus Batianus.
	The friends he's competing with, I mean they have to be Suckus Cockus and Gapus Anus and so forth.
	He should have a female name, like in Continentia.
	Yeah, Continentia Buttocks.
	What does the immigration data say?
	Sad Wings Raging, just wanted to make sure I got that right, donated 25 buckaroos to say get rid of them or become Europeastan.
	Well, we're going with option two, by the looks of it.
	Nothing is over, it can be reversed, largely.
	It can, it can.
	It just takes political will.
	No, I've really got something on my mind, but I have to tell you afterwards, it's too spicey for here, but... Look forward to that, then.
	Good.
	So, Baystave says, so, 745k net migration last year, given 160k men stormed the beaches of Normandy, that means we have 4.65 stormings last year alone, and rising every single year.
	That is one of the more interesting ways to think about this as well.
	Bo, you'll know, how many men did William the Bastard bring across?
	Less than 10,000, right?
	I think, yeah, like 12-13,000, something in that ballpark.
	Not all of whom were combat soldiers, effectively.
	And, well, again, how many times do we have to go over it?
	He invaded France with even less.
	We're dealing with 100 armies invading everywhere.
	Yeah, when it's hundreds of thousands, or the higher hundreds of thousands, it's just insane numbers.
	That's insane.
	Yeah.
	It's insane.
	Mad, literally mad.
	Yeah, on that quote, time to end.
	Yes.
	So if you like that, go and check out the rest of the great and fine and honourable works of a certain man.
	And we'll be back in, what, an hour?
	Half an hour, in fact?
	Yes.
	To talk about the zombie apocalypse.

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