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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, and today I'm joined by Stelios and Connor.
	Hello!
	And today we're going to be talking about Ukraine stops being the current thing.
	F's in chat.
	Money laundering.
	Yeah.
	Journos deserve worse.
	I think it's just time we had a nice journo hate session.
	I think that's justified, given the state of recent things that have been published.
	And also Malay destroying status, which I will.
	We are going to talk about him going Super Saiyan mode.
	I don't know exactly what this is, but I've been reliably told that it is the case.
	This is the segments I like where we don't even know what we're doing.
	Speak for yourself!
	I enjoy the chaos.
	But anyway, without further ado, I suppose we shall move into Ukraine.
	Well, recent events in the Middle East mean that Ukraine is no longer the current thing.
	It's fallen out of favor with the press.
	Which is quite strange.
	So the political class is still making signals saying that we are unwaveringly committed to victory in Ukraine, even if the war isn't going quite as well as Zelensky and they would have hoped.
	But some of the press are throwing Zelensky under the bus.
	It's an unprecedented move.
	I can only imagine it's tactical in some way, shape or form.
	I thought we'd just look at those articles today and examine exactly why The war isn't going as well as they'd hoped, and what they stand to gain by making Zelensky no longer out to be the great hero and defender of democracy, as we have been told he is for the last two years.
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	Hard moral messages to follow, I suppose.
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	You're welcome.
	Anyway, so just looking over onto what's happened recently.
	David Cameron, obviously appointed now a Baron.
	I think he's Baron Chipping Norton, so poor Jeremy Clarkson, and he's now the Foreign Secretary because the Tories ran out of ideas, again, and they just wanted to abandon any pretense they were pro-Brexit.
	But hey-ho, he went over to Zelensky, shook his hand, did the old, we stand with Ukraine nonsense.
	Meanwhile, the general lay press are throwing him under the bus.
	There's this giant Time magazine piece.
	I'm going to read a few extracts from it.
	And it's quite insightful because they spoke to members of Zelensky's own government who'd rather stay anonymous, saying, we kind of think he's gone mad.
	And actually, there's loads of money laundering going on.
	And yeah, our bad guys.
	It really has been lining the pockets of corrupt politicians.
	Do you know all those things that conspiracy theorists were saying ages ago?
	Turns out they're all true.
	So, 20 months into the war, about a fifth of Ukraine's territory remains under Russian occupation.
	Tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians have been killed.
	and Zelensky can feel during his travels that global interest in the war has slackened, So is the level of international support.
	I just want to put a point there that quite a while ago when Jack Texera, who was the whistleblower, who had leaked loads of internal documents from the US saying actually territory gains and casualties are slightly higher and faring slightly worse than thought.
	Everyone that looked at that and said, Oh, is that, is that legitimate?
	Again, called a conspiracy theorist.
	He was arrested by the feds.
	Turns out that now Time Magazine are totally fine to publish basically the same thing.
	Alright, just putting it out there.
	We're not moving forward, says one of Zelensky's close aides.
	Some frontline commanders, he continues, have begun refusing orders to advance, even when they came directly from the office of the President.
	They just want to sit in the trenches and hold the line, he says.
	We can't win a war that way.
	Since the start of the invasion, Ukraine has refused to release official counts of dead and wounded.
	But according to US and European estimates, the toll has long surpassed 100,000 on each side of the war.
	And so this slow progress means And the recent midterm election and ousting of Kevin McCarthy means that there is pressure from specifically the Republican side of the House to rescind support for Ukraine.
	Some 41% of Americans want Congress to provide more weapons to Kiev, down from 65% in June, so 24% drop-off.
	At the end of last year, during his previous visit to Washington, Zelensky received a hero's welcome.
	The White House sent a U.S.
	Air Force jet to pick him up in eastern Poland a few days before Christmas.
	But then that evening, Zelensky appeared before a joint session of Congress to declare that Ukraine had defeated Russia in the Battle of Mines of the World.
	This time around, the most recent state visit, the atmosphere had changed.
	Assistance to Ukraine had become a sticking point in the debate over the federal budget on the causes for the shutdown.
	One of Zelensky's foreign policy advisors urged him to call off a trip in September, warning the atmosphere was too fraught.
	Congressional leaders declined to let Zelensky deliver a public address on Capitol Hill.
	His aides tried to arrange an in-person appearance for him on Fox News and an interview with Oprah Winfrey.
	Neither one came through.
	Nobody wants to talk to him at primetime.
	Doesn't seem he has many friends left.
	Might also... may have something to do with the optics blunder of when his last visit to Canada meant that everyone got implicated in applauding for a literal Nazi.
	Certain organization, which I won't say because I'll start laughing again at how ridiculous it was.
	If you want to keep your career, maybe invite your guests in the future.
	Invite the SS to a certain... I don't know why that's a good idea ever, to invite the SS to your meetings, but hey-ho.
	Yep, there you go.
	Especially by people who claim to find far-right people everywhere in their societies.
	Yes.
	Yeah, doesn't lend too much credibility to Trudeau, but then again, his dad may or may not be Fidel Castro.
	So, instead, on the morning of September 21st, Zelensky met in private with then, emphasis on the then, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy before making his way to the old Senate chamber.
	They asked me straight up, if we don't give you the aid, what happens?
	Zelensky recalls, what happens is we will lose.
	One of Zelensky's close aides tells me, the author of this piece, that even if the US and its allies came through with all the weapons they had pledged, We still don't have the men to use them.
	And I have seen videos circulating recently that look like a large cohort of older men being included in the draft.
	And so it seems that they're running out of younger and more able conscripts as the war goes on.
	So it doesn't bode well for their efforts to defend what parts of their country don't want to actively secede, like the Donbass regions.
	Also, his character might be affecting the prospect of a resolution.
	This is from inside sources, so not just me making it up on the fly.
	Okay.
	Zelensky's convictions haven't changed.
	Despite the recent setbacks on the battlefield, he doesn't intend to give up fighting or to sue for any kind of peace.
	On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine's ultimate victory over Russia is hardened into a form that worries some of his advisors.
	It is immovable, verging on the messianic.
	Quote, he deludes himself, one of his closest aides tells me in frustration.
	We're out of options, we're not winning, but try telling him that.
	Zelensky's stubbornness, some of his aides say, has hurt their team's efforts to come up with a new strategy, a new message.
	As they have debated the future of the war, one issue has remained taboo, the possibility of negotiating a peace deal with the Russians.
	Judging by recent surveys, most Ukrainians would reject such a move, Especially if it didn't entail the loss of any occupied territory.
	So there is, of course, the argument that these represent Ukrainian interests.
	They don't want to cede any ground.
	They should be more than happy to prolong the fight and continue on.
	But if there's not a realistic prospect of victory, if your allies aren't willing to front any more of the money and ammunitions, how are you going to fight the war and win it?
	And when even his closest aides are starting to sound like Russia today?
	Doesn't bode well for Ukrainian morale.
	Well, I must say here, and I'm judging this just from the political side, that obviously what he's doing makes sense from the perspective of his own interests.
	Because if you're fighting a war, you don't just go out and you say, I believe I'm going to lose.
	Yes.
	So what he does makes sense to me in that sense.
	But the realism of that actually happening, What does winning look like for you beside here?
	Because this is something that's really undefined for everyone.
	Yes.
	I mean, as someone who's been to Donbass, I went and met Russian people as well in Moscow, who were serious people, and they don't even know what victory looks like for them exactly.
	They've got some minimums they'd want to achieve.
	It's going to be grounds, ceded and annexed.
	But they're nowhere near any point where they could sign a deal, really, because they don't know what they're doing.
	The Ukrainians don't know what they're doing.
	The objective is obviously to retake all the ground they've lost, but modern warfare doesn't seem to be possible for either of these two militaries.
	They're not able to do anything that NATO can.
	And instead, as, well, they mentioned, everyone's stuck in trench warfare, celebrating taking a balcony every week.
	Hurrah!
	We have taken yet another balcony!
	Okay, cool.
	In which case, I think this is probably going to be one of those wars that goes on for ages, years, and years.
	I agree with you.
	I remember when this started, I remember Daisy texting me, being like, God, I wish this was going to be over in a year or something.
	I was like, no, it's going to be 10 years at the minimum.
	Because regardless of what victory or defeat looks like for either one, Outright victory?
	Capitulation of one side isn't going to happen.
	So instead, I think you're probably right that Zelensky, if he sits there, keep talking, even privately, publicly, of course, you've got to give the line, but privately, that they're going to retake all this land.
	Good luck.
	It's not happening.
	So... Well, the necessary concessions essentially have to be to allow the Donbass regions to secede to Russia and give up Crimea.
	Depends on the Russian you're speaking to.
	For them, basically, Crimea is a non-conversation, that is, Russian land.
	For Donbass, they should be allowed to join Russia.
	But then, there's debate about how much more should be allowed to join Russia.
	And then you get into the people who just think, nah, let's just keep going forever.
	Why not?
	We've got more men, more money, more material.
	Some won't be content with just not having Ukraine join NATO.
	It will be, we need to take all of the Ukrainian landmass, so.
	Or there's the opposition position, which is the, not the Russian opposition, but the opposite position, where you just say, just keep the war going forever.
	It's actually good for everyone involved.
	It's good for America, it's good for Europe, it's good for Russia in a way.
	It means that Ukraine will never join NATO.
	And it's bad for everyone who's dying, but when has that ever mattered?
	And also it depletes the Western reserves if they keep supporting Zelensky because we've cut on those off despite our face by sanctioning Russia, whereas Russia is joining the parallel economic alliance of BRICS and so they've got lots of gold, gas and plentiful mineral resources to keep them going when our energy policy means that we're out of cheap energy.
	Yeah, I mean, they've got their own problems too.
	It's not a perfect fix, but it's not something that's going to make them go offline anytime soon.
	So I don't really know what the future of this conflict is.
	I mean, if this goes on for another five years, Zelensky can't stay in power, in which case we'll get someone else and this will just go on and on and on.
	Well, I think he'll try to stay in power because obviously he's gotten rid of lots of opposition parties.
	He's banned lots of opposing journalists.
	He's persecuted the church when they tried to say, well, maybe we should call to some kind of ceasefire deal over this.
	So I do think he wants to retain power.
	But I think it's whether or not the Western Allies, as we're sort of seeing here, think that he's the man to keep in power.
	Because they helped appoint him in the first place.
	Is he looking more like a liability than a safe asset now?
	But there's also the issue of prestige, I think, that the Western Allies, I don't think they're going to let it this way.
	So I think you're correct.
	It's going to be a war of attrition for a long time.
	Well, it's good news for the West.
	I mean, NATO can sit here and weaken its geopolitical rival without having to do much except burn money, which is what we do every day.
	Yeah, but there's also the other issue that if you could see that the election of Biden, for instance, may have been interpreted by several sides as a sign of weakness.
	Yes.
	And this triggered two wars.
	So the question is, if these wars are successful for the other side, This is going to be a really bad image for NATO and the Western Allies.
	And it's also going to accelerate the rate at which... I don't know to what extent there is the idea that the new Republicans, if they win the 2024 election, will do something significantly different there.
	I personally don't believe that.
	I think it's also contingent on the US withdrawing almost all of its funding.
	And it is interesting that Time Magazine almost seems to be pushing them in that direction, when Time Magazine, I mean, don't forget everyone, they were the one that published the article that said, the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election with fortification.
	So they're not exactly on the side of the Republicans that they're saying.
	Don't provide any more funding.
	So it's just an interesting conflict of visions that's arising here.
	I don't know exactly what the motivation behind them publishing this is, but there's clearly something at work.
	They're even reporting, and this is shocking, on the corruption and aid misallocation allegations using inside sources.
	So in recent months, the issue of corruption has strained Zelensky's relationship with many of his allies.
	Amid all the pressure to root out corruption, I assumed, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds.
	But when I made this point out to a top presidential advisor in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so he could speak more freely.
	And then obviously he just ran his comments anyway.
	Simon, you're mistaken, he says.
	People are stealing like there's no tomorrow.
	When I asked Zelensky about the problem, he acknowledged its gravity and the threat it poses to Ukraine's morale and its relationships with foreign partners.
	He also suggested that some foreign allies have an incentive to exaggerate the problem because it gives them an excuse to cut off financial support.
	It's not right, he says, for them to cover up their failure to help Ukraine by tossing out these accusations.
	So notice the way that Zelensky frames it.
	He doesn't deny that it's happening.
	He doesn't deny that it's a problem.
	He doesn't discuss scale.
	He just says, it's unfortunate that it is happening, because it's making our partners not see us as a legitimate party to support.
	And it's obviously Russian disinformation that's blowing up the scale of the corruption.
	Well, you're not forthcoming about the scale, so why do you wonder about speculation?
	I'm not that worried about the corruption, to be honest, from a geopolitical standpoint.
	It's terrible and it will only get worse.
	Coming back from Poland, everyone there in serious positions knows that Ukraine is unbelievably corrupt and future aides will just have to come through Polish companies working in Ukraine because they can't give the money to Ukrainian companies.
	You're just burning it.
	It's a waste of time.
	But that means that there's no real reason to try and fix the corruption from anyone.
	So it just means that why are we throwing our money at an obviously corrupt system?
	Well, if you want to send it and support the Ukrainian cause, you would do it through Poland or Romania or some other country in the region that could be a conduit, which you could sue if they steal all the money, whereas if you give it to a Ukrainian company.
	Good luck.
	But then, obviously, if your goal were to be a peaceful resolution, rather than just total one side or the other victory, which I know a lot of people that are funding Ukraine, it is a total Ukrainian victory, then funding them through a proxy country makes it seem like they are in NATO in all but name, and therefore the war is just going to continue on.
	Well, they are in NATO, but all but name...
	I agree.
	I agree.
	But this is the issue of if you're trying to get the Russians and the Ukrainians to the negotiating table, again, the elites aren't, then that's going to distance it.
	That's my point.
	I don't think anyone actually wants negotiation.
	People in power.
	I mean, this is actually great for Eastern Europe because it gets rid of a big rival, which was the Ukrainian state.
	It's good for Europe in general to keep the Russians in a position that's away from us.
	It's good for Washington because they get to destroy Russia.
	And for the Russians, What reason is there to negotiate with Kiev?
	It's like, no, we want to take more land if we can.
	Otherwise, we can just sit here forever.
	Russia is politically a weird place, but they're not exactly going to collapse for all the strange stuff that happens occasionally.
	In which case, they can sit and wait.
	I don't know if Kiev can, but good luck.
	Yeah, and I don't think with our precarious debt-based economy and our lack of material resources doubling down on renewables as our energy strategy, we can really afford to continue it anyway.
	But again, suicidal elites that aren't connected to the consequences of their actions.
	It's not just Time Magazine as well.
	There was a recent report from the Washington Post that confirmed one of those conspiracy theories about the demolition of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
	They're just reporting the Ukrainians were in on it.
	So this is Roman Chervinsky.
	I hope I pronounced that correctly.
	You would know.
	Decorated 48-year-old colonel who served in Ukraine's special operations forces was the coordinator of the Nord Stream operation.
	People familiar with his role said.
	Now, of course, they use that line all the time for the Trump administration.
	It might have just been some homeless man sleeping on the street outside a congressional office in those days.
	So you never know the legitimacy of the source.
	But the fact that they're even running this headline means that it's reputational damage to the Ukrainians when the line before was, how could Russia possibly blow up their own pipeline?
	Putin's clearly a madman, etc.
	Well, that's the good thing, really, is that you're able to now talk about the failures of the Ukrainian state.
	I mean, there was a period where you could only speak praise in the mainstream media.
	They're now able to, well, say the bare minimum, which is, yeah, you're corrupt.
	Here's where you probably engaged in an act of terrorism, blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline.
	And you get why.
	It's a great geopolitical move, don't get me wrong.
	Everyone can see the logistics behind it, but...
	Why sit here and be like, yeah, the Russians did that?
	No one believes that.
	Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea wasn't that Ukraine was not corrupt, but the question was the trajectory it would follow.
	So the way I was listening to the narrative, a few people would say that Ukraine was not a corrupt state, that they would say that the Ukrainians want to be closer to Europe, which would trigger a procedure of, let's say, lowering corruption.
	Joe, I'm just getting more to the point of the here and now, in which there was a period in which even talking about the fact that if you were sending money there it was largely going to disappear into a black hole wasn't even allowed to be discussed.
	Well as well, if you were saying actually it was unwise for NATO to creep up to Russia's borders because you would have provoked Russia and we know that Russia are volatile, but if you said that as an assessment you'd immediately be called a Putin-apologist.
	So if you suggested that Ukrainians were very corrupt, that there was anything untoward about the US State Department's involvement in the deposing of the former leader in 2014, you were called a conspiracy theorist.
	And so, yeah, reasonable people would have said, this is not a bastion of democracy, but the elite messaging was very much, Ukraine is unscrutable, we are handing all of your money over to protect democracy.
	Which is mad.
	Which is just not true.
	So, Stravinsky actually denied this through his attorney.
	All speculations about my involvement in the attack on the Nord Stream are being spread by Russian propaganda without any basis.
	Oh, shut up.
	Ah yes, Russian propaganda from the Washington Post, who formerly were the spearhead of accusing Donald Trump of working with the Russians.
	Right.
	He said in a written statement to the Washington Post and Der Spiegel, who conducted the joint investigation, Zhovinsky's participation in Nord Stream bombing contradicts Zelensky's public denials that his country was involved.
	Quote, I am president and I give orders accordingly, Zelensky said in a press interview in June, responding to a report by the Post that the U.S.
	Central Intelligence Agency had learned of Ukraine's plans before the attack.
	This is also something that Dan and I covered in a segment quite a while ago.
	Nothing of the sort has been done in Ukraine.
	I would never act that way, Zelensky said.
	But the Nord Stream operation was designed to keep Zelensky out of the loop.
	People familiar with the operation had said.
	So the interesting reading there as well is not just the press have fallen out of favor with Zelensky, but are his own government going around him and taking other actions that he's not aware of because they think that his private and publicly stated narrative of total victory is unlikely on the current course of action?
	I don't know about that.
	It could also just be, it's best that you not know.
	We need you not to know.
	That happens in government a lot.
	If you're going to blow up Nord Stream, probably best not to tell the president.
	And that way he can deny it.
	I suppose so.
	I'm just thinking gas minister.
	No, no, no, you're not.
	You're not wrong.
	I was thinking more of the Trump administration when the military officials told him we'd withdrawn from Syria completely and they actually stationed a few hundred troops there still.
	And so they just went around because they thought the commander in chief wasn't making competent decisions.
	So, but the fact that we're even raising that question means that there are cracks in Ukraine narrative.
	Things aren't going as well as everyone in the elite had already said.
	It's actually conspiracy theorists who have proved right.
	And so now you've even got Konstantin Kissin turning around and saying, it's time to end the war.
	Konstantin, given his Russian heritage, has been very vocal on his pro-Ukraine support.
	He's debated Peter Hitchens on this.
	And if even he's coming out and saying, now there's no reasonable prospect of a Ukrainian total victory, we need to look into peaceful solutions.
	It's becoming a mainstream position.
	It is definitely true that the rabid support for the Ukrainian state in the West, that has been completely eroded.
	That basically doesn't exist, as you're demonstrating.
	Even in places such as Constantine, it was like, send more aid we can to help them get a better peace.
	If he's given up, you know, the Times has given up, the Washington Post has given up.
	Definitely that rabid support is now gone.
	And what's left exactly?
	A West that maybe wants to give more money?
	But how much more?
	Well, they want to give money somewhere.
	This is a visual representation.
	Now, this was a fake video for everyone that needs to know.
	It was a deepfake.
	Politico have fact-checked it, but it is representative of what's happened.
	This was a fake Times Square billboard where the Ukrainian flag and stand with Ukraine has been nudged out by the Israeli flag and stand with Israel.
	And that's basically what's happened.
	And I think one of the reasons for that is the narrative power of the Second World War is more powerful than the Cold War, particularly for conservatives and liberals who have been beaten with the Euro mid-century German stick for so long that actually preserving particularly for conservatives and liberals who have been beaten with the Euro mid-century German stick for so long that actually preserving the lives of Jews against anti-Semitism and total destruction by Hamas means
	And so Ukraine has just taken a subordinate backseat in the public consciousness.
	I think that's also important to tie it with the actions of EU with regard to digital freedom of speech and protection of speech.
	Because by showing this, that you are not allowed to say this, but now you can, a few years ago, you have a very good argument against the disinformation wars that the EU is conducting with this Breton fellow.
	I mean, I appreciate your theory about the fact that, obviously, Israel's more important to the West than Ukraine is.
	That is true.
	But one of the things I found in Russia, and I think this probably explains it better, is that part of the Russian strategy, a few months ago when I was there, is that we'll just wait.
	The West gets distracted with some other thing eventually.
	They know how we operate, and it's true.
	The current thing meme, as kind of inaccurate as it can be sometimes, is true that the West operates on kind of amnesia, but we just jump from subject to subject every six months, and I mean international big subject that we're obsessed with, and then we just kind of get bored with it and move on.
	And the Russians I met in Donbass and in mainland Russia both know that that is a problem the West has.
	I mean, the Chinese talk about it a lot with Taiwan.
	Just wait.
	If you just wait it out, the Western world just moves on to something else.
	They have multi-decade plans and unwavering conviction in their own sense of national belonging, whereas we are a very globally monocultural, very online political climate, And that means that we're more liable to grand scale capture moving from COVID to Ukraine to Israel to climate change and future, I suppose.
	But they are also in government for multi decades.
	Yeah.
	That's also part of it.
	So I suppose I'll wrap that up there with so long Ukraine, hello war in the Middle East, and I look forward to the next current thing.
	What do you want to bet the next current thing is going to be?
	Should we have a gamble?
	Oh, the fall of the American Republic.
	Because no one will accept the 2024 election, no matter what happens.
	Well, you think so.
	What, Trump wins and then that's the next current thing for a year?
	Or even if Trump loses, no one will accept it.
	Alright.
	But the last election they accepted was 2012, right?
	And where do you go from implicit deep state coup to semi-explicit election screwery to, what, small-scale street-level conflicts?
	Where this time around, because of the 2020 riots, the American patriots will start defending themselves and people will unfortunately get shot.
	I'm going to pre-empt that and say the next Black Lives Matter riots will happen just before the election.
	So even running up to the election, there'll be another hero.
	But I don't think it'll be nearly the scale, because I think people will try and put it down this time.
	Maybe.
	Do you want to have a guess?
	Yes, I think that there will be lots of protests and, let's say, turmoil in Europe with the illegal immigration thing.
	With the new Europeans.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I suppose we shall move on.
	Journos are bad people and deserve worse than we can even comprehend.
	And I have come to give people the good news of, um, I don't care how much you hate the journos, it's not enough.
	And I shall prove it.
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	Anyway, so, there's this meme that's obviously very good, Aaron.
	Good on Auron.
	Yeah, it's correct.
	Don't make me tap the sign.
	You don't hate journalists enough.
	You think you do, but you don't.
	And, well, it's true.
	And he's responding in this specific instance to this piece of crap from the nation.
	Should America keep celebrating Thanksgiving?
	This happens every year.
	And of course, it's a yes-no article where it's like someone who's like, well, obviously it's a period in which, you know, it's important to our history and it gives us a nice opportunity to check out the Indians and their culture.
	We don't care about it the rest of the year.
	So isn't that neat?
	And then there's like the no crazy person who just turns up and starts screeching about decolonization.
	We spoke to Elizabeth Warren and she said... Yeah, she says here that we need to give thanks to the native nations who created the world that we inherit today.
	Hang on a minute, no they didn't.
	They didn't create the world, they just sort of occupied it and lived in it.
	And they also didn't build the country.
	The Indians.
	They're the real Anglo-Saxons that built America.
	I don't know what to do with that, it's just painful.
	If she goes on to argue that the reason they built the world we currently live in is not because they invented any of the things, or built any of it.
	It's instead because all of the food was here, such as tomatoes, squash, beans, and corn.
	Are they really going with the cuisine argument for both the indigenous and the diversity now?
	Llamas, they're from the new world, therefore, old world people, what did you make?
	Nothing.
	It's not impressive to say that.
	Watch his Emperor's New Groove once.
	Yeah.
	Not to mention, I mean, you can go and look up, she's arguing, oh, they selectively bred and genetically modified the crops.
	And it's like, no, they didn't.
	They selectively bred them.
	They couldn't genetically modify them.
	The hell are you talking about, woman?
	I mean, have you seen the kind of American Monsanto over here?
	Well, you can go look it up yourself.
	I'm sure everyone's seen it, where it's like corn at the moment the Europeans discovered America and it's these tiny kernels versus the glorious modern American cob of corn, which is making me hungry just thinking about it.
	But anyway, she ends it off with some crap where she argues, let's tell a different story by dropping the lie of Thanksgiving and begin truth's giving, which is where she drops truth bombs, such as the Indians built America.
	Can you scroll up slightly just to that paragraph there?
	To this day, the Doctrine of Discovery, the foundation of federal law permitting settlers to take possession of the land they discovered, imposes a set of Christian-based, quote-unquote, laws and institutional thinking that confines Indian existence, quote-unquote, legally, politically, and economically.
	This is something that Sylvia Winters did with unsettling the coloniality being true freedom.
	She's one of the nutcase foundational critical race theorists.
	And her theory is basically, we didn't have a definition of human beings until the American Enlightenment founding fathers turned up and wrote the constitution to explicitly exclude black people, and that's the only reason they wrote the constitution.
	So actually, having any definition of human being excludes anyone who isn't white, therefore all laws are oppressive, therefore get rid of them.
	This is a proper return to noble savage kind of madness here, and they're just applying it to every ethnic group now.
	And that is pretty typical of American media, by every couple of months.
	I mean, in this case, every Thanksgiving we get this kind of crap.
	But that's not the worst example.
	That's not the thing I really want to talk about today.
	I could sit there and talk about this.
	I'm never going to talk about this.
	BBC Pigeon, doing BBC Pigeon things.
	People who don't know what BBC Pigeon is, it's a BBC news outlet that's made for West Africa.
	And they decided that West Africans can't speak English.
	They speak pigeon English.
	Is this the global... This is the global list for the 100 women, right?
	100 women.
	This is the source of the meme last year where Billie Eilish was on it and I got chewed out so I wonder if she's on it again.
	Who de on de list dis year?
	De BBC don reveal dis a list for 100 inspiring and influential women around de world.
	I mean, I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing at BBC Pigeon because it literally is just you spelt a few words wrong.
	Right.
	So you have to continue reading.
	I would be happier with paying a license fee if they narrated these articles.
	Could you imagine if there was an audio track?
	Jonathan Crowe, get on it.
	People weighed on among them that an attorney and former U.S.
	First Lady Michelle Obama, like that's English.
	That's just English.
	Human rights lawyer Amal Clooney, again, some more English.
	Balloon, the all war winning football Okay, this is getting back to gibberish.
	And it goes on.
	This year, extreme heat, wildfires, floods, and all done natural disasters.
	Just write another.
	You could just write the word another.
	I think people in West Africa have got Duolingo.
	I think they could learn English.
	They've got a Google Translate plugin.
	Yeah, there isn't one for pigeon.
	For some reason, racist Google Translate doesn't recognise Pidgin as a legitimate language.
	Do they do this for people that are living in the UK reading the BBC, or is it for people living abroad who only sort of read English?
	I think it's for us to laugh at.
	So, I mean, BBC Pidgin...
	Sorry, getting back to what they're trying to actually promote here, which is a hundred most important and influential women.
	I did notice that there's no business leader tab.
	There's climate pioneers.
	Politics and advocacy.
	Well, that is business at this point.
	Science is like the only thing here that I actually... Entertainment and sport.
	Which propagandists have they got in that category?
	Yeah, I still counted.
	To promote the status of female... oh god.
	No, you have to, please.
	I think that everyone wants you to keep reading it.
	I don't want to keep reading it though.
	John, can you control F in another tab to see Billie Eilish is on this one as well?
	Oh, you want to control F there?
	I mean, there we are, there's a woman who drives a truck.
	Truck driver, great.
	Not for the Canadians, I'm sure.
	No, but there we are.
	What an amazing achievement.
	Woman drives truck.
	She married at the age of 17, is mother of four.
	Picking?
	What?
	I don't know.
	Trying to read BBC Pigeon is fun.
	I want to decipher it.
	There's no Billie Eilish, your queen is not here.
	Sorry to say.
	But anyway, the point being, I'm not going to talk even about this kind of garbage, which regardless of the BBC Pigeon, the 100 women most influential list is also garbage.
	Let's be honest.
	I want to talk about Absolute, crystallized, beautiful reasons to hate journos.
	Such as the BBC's article about black women most likely to die in medieval London from the plague.
	All one of them?
	Yes.
	Very much like Hillary Clinton saying, the first victims of war are women.
	Yes.
	Because they're the widows.
	And it's like, okay, who's dying for them to be widows?
	Right.
	Gotcha.
	They're wives.
	I don't know.
	Who knows?
	In fact, well, they've come to tell us exactly how many black women were the real victims of the plague.
	Everyone else was not a real victim.
	Of course.
	It's eight.
	Apparently there were eight black women in all of medieval England.
	Yeah, but is this like the reverse of the three-fifths rule where they were worth far more than every other native white peasant at the time?
	No, no.
	We're not America.
	I think there was an editor mistake here.
	The editor didn't see it.
	They wanted to write to really die.
	Medieval London.
	Sorry, what do you mean?
	Most likely to really die?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what the author wanted to write.
	Well sadly, she ended up riding this piece of crap.
	And as you can see here, this is just gold.
	Black women of African descent were more likely to die of medieval plague in London.
	Academics from the Museum of London have found.
	Is there a BBC Pigeon version of this?
	Oh god, I did look.
	I couldn't find it.
	The study was the first archaeological exploration, showing how racism influenced a person's risk of death from the plague.
	Because the plague, George Floyd-us, Those fleas in little clan hoods.
	Maybe the rats.
	The likelihood of dying from the plague was amongst highest of those who already faced significant hardship, including exposure to famines that hit England during this time.
	Sources, Netflix.
	Yeah.
	What I do love implicit in that statement is the idea that there was an ethnic group of black Britons in the 1300s who lived in London.
	And man, they couldn't catch a break.
	Brother was being kept down by the king's men.
	They could catch a plague though.
	Yeah, apparently they could.
	And they say in here that, of course, those suffering hardship were the ones most affected.
	So even in the 1300s, apparently the black population of London were underachieving.
	Very sad to hear.
	They say it arrived in London and they give us the history of the plague, which... Do I need to read?
	People not know about the plague?
	A lot of people know about the plague.
	It had something to do with rats, didn't it?
	It was fleas on the back of rats.
	Fleas on the rats.
	Or it was God.
	Either one.
	I like that one.
	I think the government had a bad mandate to ban cats.
	That's why there was a plague.
	15th century Anthony Fauci.
	But they say in here that half of London's population died, and of course black women most affected, as you could probably tell, because the research concluded that higher death rates were amongst people of colour, as they were called in ye olde England.
	Wait, so eight means, compared to half of... Half of London.
	Half of London dies, eight black women die, I can't believe black women- How will we go on?
	Yeah, literally.
	They say in here that those of black African descent were those most affected from the devastating effects of quote, pre-modern structural racism in the medieval world.
	They don't name any of that.
	That's so chronically stupid, I actually don't have anything to say.
	No, I don't know what you do with this.
	I mean, I can't really fathom As to why they wrote this?
	I want to do what Douglas did when he keeps getting invited on Piers Morgan's show to talk about reparations and just say, I'm just tired of this.
	You're clearly just unserious, unintelligent grifters who are unfortunately being paid with license fee money to produce race propaganda nonsense.
	Just go away.
	I want to find the name.
	Who is responsible for this?
	There is no name listed.
	For some reason, this article doesn't get a name listed as to who I can bully on Twitter.
	This is such crucial research.
	Why would you not want to associate yourself?
	Well, they have got someone who you can, I suppose, talk to.
	It's communistic, you know, it's the team who wrote the article.
	Well, Dr. Rebecca Redford of the Museum of London, she's come out to say that, quote, we have no primary written sources from people of colour, because that phrase doesn't exist, shut up, and those of black African descent during the plague, It's a racism source, I made it up!
	Well, I have no evidence, but you know... There's the man doing all the racism, apparently.
	Yeah.
	She says, even though she has no evidence, archaeological evidence, so their research, is essential to understanding more about the lives and experiences of people of colour.
	The racism is in their bones, and we shall find it.
	It's a literal offence, archaeology.
	Uh, yeah.
	And what's weird about this is this is the one people jumped on, the BBC outlet that reported this here, as you can see.
	This piece of crap.
	I'm just highlighting it because I have utter contempt for this entire website and everyone associated.
	But they didn't actually include a lot of info.
	For some reason, The Guardian actually had more info because... I like how they have a bubonic plague tag.
	Is that just reporting on San Francisco?
	I don't know.
	I want to see now.
	What's in here?
	Ancient Britain's built stone hens and then vanished.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Not as cool.
	Not as cool.
	But, back to the, uh, offensive archaeology, as you rightly say.
	They're saying here, the results, uh, reveal, sorry, nine, not eight.
	Was worse than I thought.
	Nine victims.
	Well, that's where the disproportionality claim comes from.
	They're of African heritage, it seems.
	We proved it by looking at their bones.
	Uh, whilst 40 seem to have been of white European and Asian ancestry.
	Not sure how many Asians were in medieval England.
	I'm guessing that these researchers aren't the serious of people, so I'm not sure I trust them.
	It's the Harvard admissions team.
	Yeah.
	They say there were eight, and 88 respectively, of those in plague and non-plague burials that they looked at.
	So they're arguing that London was about 9% black.
	No.
	No, it's 13% now.
	So I don't think it was 9% black, so that doesn't make sense.
	They say whilst nothing specific is known about these individuals' lives, we have no evidence.
	The team say that many women of colour would have worked in domestic service and experienced race and sex-based discrimination.
	All women worked in a form of domestic service.
	The household was the economy.
	Only few tradesmen and guildmasters worked in the centre of the city.
	But a white serf is more privileged than the black surf even though they work in the same place in the same city at the same time doing the same job we just know we know why because i've looked at their bones she doesn't tell me how that shows you anything but whatever it's actually consulting runes it is amazing they say here the plague is portrayed as an indiscriminate killer but we know it actually wasn't said dr redfern Oh, come on.
	So they're full on saying the plague has a racist motive?
	Yes.
	The plague literally joined the Klan and was like, well, time to do my work.
	Dr. Oneika Nuba, a historian of the University of Nottingham and the author of Black Moors, about Africans in Tudor England.
	She says it remains a challenge to accept for many people that different ancestries and heritage were an established part of England's past.
	Quote, it's not a political matter, it's a matter of conjecture.
	It is actually evidential fact.
	England has always been ethnically diverse for thousands of years.
	No, it hasn't.
	Woman who watched Horrible Histories once.
	Well, it's worse than that.
	She did actually write a book.
	As I mentioned, it's called Black Jews.
	I've read it.
	If you want to go and find it.
	Oh, this!
	I've seen this before.
	And David Olusoga has endorsed it.
	There you go.
	Yeah, because it's crap.
	I read it in Amesbury's library, wonderful library, and I was flicking through, and I counted up the number of black individuals she could even list, and it's equivalent to a number of Zoroastrians that exist in Britain today.
	So if you've never met a Zoroastrian, it's sort of the same as being in medieval England and never meeting a black person, so I'm sure...
	That's quite a few of you, I imagine.
	There's only 4,000 Zoroastrians.
	Don't speak ill of Ahura Mazda.
	Of course, I wouldn't want to get the sun gold on my back.
	But you can see for the cover here, she actually has an individual there with a trumpet, and we've spoken about him before.
	I love how he keeps coming up as an example.
	This is John Blake, who is literally famous for being black.
	That's his only achievement.
	Many such cases.
	There is.
	People who don't know, he turned up to England and the king was just like, hang on a minute, that's different, and recruited him to play a trumpet.
	Because, oi, I've got one of them.
	Sincerely, that is his only role.
	Because it is to show off that the king is worldly and knows all about the world.
	Why?
	He has black people in the court.
	You ever seen one of them?
	He attracts the most interesting characters just by being the king.
	Yeah.
	I just, I can't believe that for all of these like Afrocentric movements, it was like the Anglo-Saxons was black, the Celts was black, London was black.
	Trust me, bro.
	They have to always jump back to literally one guy in history whose only achievement is that he was black.
	Yeah, he's the totem of historical revisionism.
	I mean, he's probably the most cited token man of all time at this point.
	And sincerely, that was his job.
	He got paid well for it.
	You know, got a nice lifestyle out of it.
	Not blaming him.
	Go for it.
	But you may have noticed this is very much the same narrative they had about COVID.
	They mentioned COVID earlier.
	Yes.
	Just as COVID stalks the land today, killing black people because it is a racist... George Floyd did have COVID.
	Yes.
	If George Floyd was a peasant, the plague would have come for him and killed him with its neck-biting powers.
	I mean, we've been over this before.
	Why is COVID killing people of colour?
	For some reason, they've taken this off iPlayer.
	I don't know if people remember our segment on this, And the reason being, because they asked Kemi Badenoch as to why black people were being killed by COVID.
	And she cited genetic differences and health differences and lifestyle differences.
	And then it just ends.
	Because they were hateful.
	Yeah, they spend like a half an hour just being like, whoa, Jesus, there's lots of black people being killed.
	Is it because the NHS hates us?
	And then they ask Kemi and Kemi goes, no, here's why.
	Oh, wrap it up.
	If you want to talk about disproportionality, maybe obesity in the Caribbean community might be something worth addressing to keep them alive?
	No?
	Again, racism apparently?
	Alright then.
	And the BBC are used to this.
	I found this.
	This is a weird piece of work.
	As you can see here, the unspoken weight discrimination problem work.
	Do you care?
	Does anyone care?
	What is this?
	This is just victim writing.
	Yeah, I do if my workplace is filled with unpleasant-looking fat people.
	That's true.
	You can see this goes on, because if I keep scrolling, there's that crap article.
	Why layoff hit workers of colour so hard?
	Okay, again, more victim writing.
	There's another one.
	Did Me Too die with Gen Z in the workplace?
	Who cares?
	Literally.
	Discrimination!
	Pushing LGBT queer- What is this?
	And it just keeps going.
	I'm just gonna keep scrolling.
	You see there's article after article.
	Every single one of these pieces of crap is the same thing.
	Where it's just, did you know minorities most affected?
	Like, okay.
	Okay BBC, this is literally all you produce at this point.
	That was at least about accentism.
	What's quite funny for the BBC to produce, because I saw it at the bottom of the page.
	Did you read their review of their own Doctor Who special?
	Did they say it was great?
	They said it was crap.
	There's a direct quote, actually, that says, this has just become a vehicle for capital T, capital M, the message.
	So someone at the BBC was a critical drinker.
	Nice.
	Yeah, there you go.
	This is where we're going to end it off.
	As you can see, I mean, journos just deserve hatred for what they've done, which is no work.
	And you got paid.
	You bastard.
	But instead, I want to end this off with just the fact that it's also just wrong.
	This is the bit that eludes me, because no matter how much this blew up, as you can see, I think it's got like a million views or something now, almost, as you can see there.
	If you actually go to the source, Museum of London, here you are.
	This is Dr. Redfern over here, from earlier.
	She actually just says that, no, nothing I said was true.
	Because she goes on to write, as you can read here, "In archaeology, social inequalities can be identified in many different ways, and one way is how people are buried.
	When we looked at how skeletons were buried in East Smithfield, we found that none of the plague victims with black, African, or mixed heritage had been maltreated, as you might expect to see in a population group that might have suffered discrimination." So it wasn't a pauper's grave, basically.
	Just a regular grave site.
	It's not even that!
	She's just made the point there that none of the black people we found in the past ever suffered discrimination.
	There was no evidence on their corpses.
	Even though I just spent ages telling you about how them dying a plague is racism.
	It's just bollocks.
	She says, we could see that in their bodies, they were placed in the graves with care and respect, as we can be seen in the image.
	What exactly this might have meant requires further research.
	The last line is there very revealing.
	It's, oh damn, this undermines our entire narrative.
	Look for the next excuse.
	Yeah, we looked at the corpses as you can see here.
	We found out that those of mixed ancestry were treated with respect.
	There was no evidence in their bodies of any kind of unusual treatment or punishments or any damages that may have resulted from racism.
	But trust me, these people here were victims of medieval racism against the black race.
	This looks like the music video for Kanye West's Famous, and I can't unsee it.
	True.
	But that's the worst part, which is even the individuals here who wrote this piece of crap, the scientists you can't trust, frankly.
	She's been the Senior Curator of Archaeology at the Museum of London for two years now, this individual.
	So it's good we're all in good hands.
	But they wrote themselves that none of this was to do with racism.
	And The Guardian and the BBC just picked up and went... Racism?
	Yeah, just like COVID.
	COVID 2, the plague.
	Those will move on.
	We'll go to Malay.
	And have the...
	There we are.
	Tools.
	Stelios gets the talking stick.
	Tools of the trade.
	Podcast craft.
	Who's...
	The mouse.
	Let me just...
	The ghost in the machine.
	I think John's also moving the mouse.
	Okay.
	No, no.
	I think I have control of the mouse for now.
	Unlimited power.
	Okay.
	So, Josh did a segment yesterday about Javier Malay, and he talked about the policies...
	We're going to look at some of the fun stuff and talk about some of the challenges that he's facing.
	First thing I want to say is that I love his energy.
	Just look at the first clip here, him with a flag.
	I mean, he's a real eccentric.
	He's the guy you'd love to have at a party, right?
	I would find him annoying, I'm going to be honest.
	He would just sit in a chair with a drink and enjoy.
	I would definitely invite him.
	Now let's go to the next clip because he has excellent dance moves.
	Look at that.
	You know, if people don't want to dance at some point, you know, he is guaranteed to raise spirits.
	Is that dance moves?
	He's like the BitConnect guy.
	Yeah, look at that.
	No, he does have a little bit of Trump about him there, where Trump used to boogie along to the YMCA.
	That was at least endearing.
	Yes, basically.
	So he's spreading love around and enthusiasm and stuff.
	And I want to show you now, I think one of the funniest videos in politics I've ever seen.
	It's Milehi.
	Can we have sound, please?
	Yeah.
	But but why?
	He's like Leatherface at the end of Texan Jackson.
	I want to thank Luis for lots of context.
	He's a friend of the show.
	He's given me lots of context about Argentina.
	He told me that he is basically saying For the cast to tremble, the cast is trembling or something.
	He's going to use the chainsaw to destroy all Argentinian corruption and the corrupt Argentinian institutions and he is basically making everyone really happy and hip.
	It looks like a POV shot from Dead Rising or something.
	Why, as a politician, would you want the liability of going to a packed South American crowd and waving a chainsaw about?
	Because it's good fun.
	It is good fun.
	And also, if things don't work, you're preparing your CV for a lumberjack position or something.
	You're showing you can handle the chainsaw.
	He does have the facial features of an axe murderer in the 1970s.
	I don't know if I can, but next time I go campaigning, I want to bring a chainsaw on the doorstep.
	On the doorstep?
	Yeah, go door knocking.
	Whose house are you going to turn up to?
	Stand with us!
	Okay, so Chainsaw Man Millay is talking a bit about political correctness.
	He says, basically, stupid political correctness says that if you don't say we're woke, You're immediately presented as a violent danger to democracy and he says basically, come on guys, this is all, you know, ridiculous.
	So.
	Let's talk a bit about, there's this article in Forbes, you can read it if you want, I'll just give you some context.
	It says here basically, so he won against Sergio Massa as the former Minister of Economics.
	He got around 56%, whereas Massa got 44%.
	Now the first electoral round was October the 22nd, where he got 30% and Massa got 36.7%.
	But the reason he won to a large extent was that the third party leader, Bullrich, who got sort of 24%, told her supporters to vote for Millet.
	Now, the election has been represented and described as very ideological.
	But he's a libertarian.
	Yeah, and there is the issue of Peronism in Argentina that is basically status policies and constant economic mismanagement and this person comes along and says basically that the Argentinians had enough with this and is going to use a chainsaw to cut spending.
	Okay, so his keywords are things like, you know, freedom of Um, free trade, limited government, respect of property rights.
	And basically one thing to notice, which is important, is that close to 40% of Argentinians are under the poverty line and 56% of young people are under the poverty line, according to this article.
	And let us just talk about the economic index of, the index of economic freedom.
	Argentina scores, at what place does it score out of 176 countries?
	What is its position right now?
	I mean, I've got it in front of me, so that's kind of cheating.
	Okay, so don't talk about it.
	A hundred?
	A hundred and forty-fourth.
	So it's really low in economic freedom.
	It's also in the Trade Barrier Index.
	Argentina ranks 80th out of 88 countries, and it ranks 95th in the International Property Rights Index.
	My only sticking point with that, and yeah, it's run by insane socialists who have hamstrung needlessly economic prosperity, I just am wary of going forward only using economic metrics to register how healthy a country is because it can't account for things like happy families and the like.
	So if he gets the economy into a better shape, and I'm happy to watch him do that from over there because we've not got any money invested in it and the like, Wish him well.
	You also need a more cohesive national narrative than just, I'm going to line your pockets with more money.
	Particularly if he's going to do, as has been suggested in yesterday's segment, a open borders style policy because he's going to abolish the welfare state and just sort of hope people don't turn up.
	But if people turn up for better economic conditions, it doesn't mean that they'll cast aside their old cultural prejudices if you don't give them a bigger cultural story.
	So things matter more than just economics.
	We will see what is going to happen because obviously he has a very difficult task ahead and these measures take time to give good results, to yield good results.
	So we'll see what is going to happen.
	I don't know exactly about the open borders issue, but I think that Argentina doesn't face the exact same issues that countries in Europe and also the US is facing with immigration.
	So whether that turns out to be a problem, In the future i don't know but the point is to look at the context of what is happening right now and when you're talking about the national sentiment it seems to me that he is someone who does have a national sentiment and there are people with argentinian flags.
	In his rallies and in his party.
	Anyway, let us talk a bit about a funny aspect of the campaign that I was hoping you were going to illuminate me a bit.
	John did.
	Let's say there was a sort of, if you can translate the post here, it says that there was a very organic campaign that mixed Goku with Melee.
	This reminds me of when they kept making anime of Georgia Maloney.
	OK.
	I don't know what is with the online libertarian right and being obsessed with anime.
	And I've just made the YouTube comments a total cesspit now, haven't I?
	So let's talk a bit about Dragon Ball Z. I don't know much about it, but it seems like there was a campaign to present Melee as Goku.
	Here's one thing from here.
	It might just be the hair.
	Now I don't see because there's this camera in front of me, but I was told that this is a powerful move that Goku is doing.
	This is him going Super Saiyan.
	Look at the number of views though.
	4.3 million on this.
	Yes, this is by his account also.
	He is basically performing a powerful move against the Argentinian system and its representatives.
	He's tweeted out his own Goku memes.
	Yes, and here, basically, I've been told that this is a Super Saiyan underneath.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know exactly what a Super Saiyan is.
	I love how we've all become old men, sitting like, oh yeah, the toys.
	The toys are talking about there's a Super Saiyan one now.
	Honestly, I don't know.
	Before you tell me, I want to say that I've watched two people trying to become Super Saiyan in front of me.
	And the only thing I got is that they really wanted to share their constipated expressions with someone.
	Yeah.
	It failed miserably.
	Yeah, because it doesn't exist in real life.
	It's him going to a higher plane of superpowers and all he does is scream until his hair turns long and blonde and he gets more muscular.
	And it's like him having bananas on his head or something there.
	Yes.
	Anyway, so here is another meme where he's turning into a Super Saiyan or something.
	So as you said, it's reaching a next level of power.
	Maybe I'm really an old fuddy-duddy, but this stuff is so imperceptible to me that there's a level of unseriousness there that I kind of... Like, I do enjoy some internet memes.
	But it feels like discourse is becoming contaminated with pop culture references to the point of where if the president of a country is just tweeting out random Goku memes, how un-serious are we as a people?
	It's the internet, have fun.
	I know you'd say that!
	No, but I remember the Trump posting with the anime stuff as well.
	You remember that advert that starts off with some Japanese girl with like a photo of Trump going, oh!
	And then it transitions to like vaporwave bullshit and it's just like, This is great, I don't care.
	The only funny one I do remember is when Boris on the 2019 campaign trail tweeted out like a 10-hour version of lo-fi beats to get Brexit done to.
	Yeah, when he's on the train.
	To win an election you do have to have good energy and if people win elections without that something's fishy.
	So basically the message is if you vote for Millet in 2023 you're becoming a super saiyan and you're getting the magical power to destroy The corrupt state that is keeping you down and keeping Argentina down.
	And anyway, it says here, Liberty is marching.
	Now, let's talk a bit about another issue, because I think that basically, Malay is going to... I hate that headline, by the way.
	Yes, that's what I want to say, that he is going to be a person who will be attacked by both sides, by statists from both sides.
	And that's what I mean, because people who are statists have vested interests in every experiment that is anti-statist failing.
	So he is going to be criticized by everyone and he isn't going to get, everything he does is going to be portrayed in a very bad light by people from all over the world.
	I just don't think far-right is the right label category.
	Obviously, they're using it as a smear.
	The smear means nothing.
	But if we think about the original conceptions of left and right from at least the French Revolution, it's that the right were traditional and hierarchical, and he's not.
	He's openly revolutionary and ideological.
	And even though Austrian economic principles seem to work, Great, cool.
	It doesn't mean that you're a metaphysically-minded traditionalist.
	It just doesn't apply.
	I know I'm being autistic about it, but it's just irritating to me.
	But it's the smear that is being used.
	Because when you have someone who's a libertarian, I will stress in rhetoric, we will see what he's going to do.
	But when you have people who basically Um, campaign on a libertarian platform and you call that far right?
	Economically?
	Not even that.
	No, they want, they want to basically smear him.
	Another issue that was by the way, the BBC, it's your favorite.
	Yeah.
	Literal state funded liars.
	Yeah.
	So here the Guardian again.
	Literal state funded liars.
	Cause the BBC keeps subsidizing the Guardian.
	Yeah.
	So they say far right libertarians, like, you know, carnivorous vegan.
	And I want to say here something which we may clash here a bit, but there are some people who are basically saying, from the right wing here, that he is going to fail.
	And he says something, they say something like, Malay's a problem not because he's libertarian, but because every Latin American right-winger still believes the U.S.
	is Reaganite, licks the U.S.
	boots, and disregards his own national interests and cultural heritage to favor an abstract and fruitless notion of liberty, and that he's 40 years behind.
	Oh, I'm gonna follow this account.
	Yeah, so not every Latin American right-winger does actually, but Cayley doesn't.
	Cayley and his rhetoric is very much about soldiers of God, he's a Christian, he's not very liberal.
	That's what's brought him into clashes of the U.S.
	hegemony because he's not been very liberal in the way that he's locked up the MS-13 members and the U.S.
	State Department have gone, well, you might be staring down the barrel of some sanctions there, lad, because we actually like Latin America being embroiled in all sorts of cartel conflict.
	And I think this is what he's been criticized for in hooking up the Argentinian economy to the dollar rather than their national currency, which has been debased and inflated.
	I think that is short term because the US petrodollar debt-based economy, even if Trump goes in, will go kaput eventually.
	So I think the Katie's sort of, I'm not even a big Bitcoin fan, but a kind of parallel asset-based currency is a much better way to go down.
	Well, I want to say basically that for me, this tweet is nonsense.
	And for instance, they're talking about him disregarding his own national interests and cultural heritage.
	Well, how?
	If you have for decades, consecutive decades, a statist economy and culture and institution that is basically destroying the economic prospects of Argentina, and it's actually contributing to the moral decline of society, then you really need to break that Sure, but hooking yourself up to the US or being a socialist country isn't a binary choice.
	Well, no, no, I'm not saying it is.
	And I don't know exactly.
	I don't know.
	I'm talking about this person here.
	Yeah, that's what they're saying.
	They're saying it's a criticism to then go from... Excuse me, sorry, because when they're talking about him being in favor of an abstract and fruitless notion of liberty, that's nonsense, especially if we think of the economic indexes that Argentina's placed there.
	When you have, for instance, If you look at the position, 144th out of 176 countries in economic index, then you're not about an... No, no, they are talking about it, because he is talking about it.
	When you're talking about an abstract notion of liberty that he's about, it's not abstract at all.
	He's talking about economic liberty.
	Yeah, but this comes back to what I was saying before about I'll be interested to see what he does after he does economic reform.
	What's his national story?
	This is what they're saying.
	And of course they're going to say that because they're a Christian posting account, Stelios, so they're going to say that anything other than a Christian narrative is an abstract notion of liberty because he's only talking about materialism.
	So they're not being unfair in their critique.
	I don't have the impression he's anti-religion, by the way.
	I'm not saying that he's anti-religion, but what's his messaging been is what their critique is.
	His messaging is that consecutive economic mismanagement of Argentina has led into a situation of moral decline, and it's called the Viveza Criolla, which is the kind of statist mentality of the principle of minimum effort that is basically leading Argentinians to think that there is no That they shouldn't care about the common good because everything is corrupt.
	This has to be destroyed.
	One of the ways in which this can be destroyed is by improving the economic conditions of the country.
	When you have a population that is 40% in poverty, that's significantly more difficult for the population to behave a bit more morally.
	So I don't see how what he's saying is abstract.
	No, because they're saying that's insufficient.
	They're saying that that clears out the corruption, that allows people breathing room to be prosperous and great.
	But from the purely material concern, the domain of morality, they're not One doesn't necessarily follow the other.
	And so he needs an extra dimension, a sort of incorporative national story, to then galvanize his population to be better, to raise birth rates, to believe in their country again, to compel them to fight and defend for it, not just become an economic zone.
	They're saying that he might basically make it into an economic zone.
	That's not a fair critique.
	That's not an unfair critique, sorry.
	I honestly I don't see this and I don't think that Argentina is facing these troubles specifically and the idea is for him according to a non-status mentality is that you cannot solve the problem of moral decline with statism because when you have statism you are coercing people and morality requires the element of choice.
	You're robbing them away from it.
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	Okay, so he said something here about abolishing several departments and several ministries.
	And we have from leading report here, it says Argentina's new Trump-like president Javier Millet keeps his promise and has announced that the Argentinian Ministry of Women, Gender, and Equality will close in 21 days.
	So we have Carl saying good morning from Argentina.
	To be honest, just get rid of it.
	It's not needed.
	No one ever wanted this crap.
	Every Western country has one.
	It's like they say that everyone says it's impossible until someone does it.
	Who was the president?
	Was it Ecuador?
	I don't know anything about South America.
	Okay.
	So it was something that it was not on the radar of people that you could clean the country from gang violence.
	And apparently he just did it.
	I mean, the problem is, if you had sex realist positions for men and women's interests in regards to policymaking, and it wasn't infiltrated by some insane feminist ideologue, right?
	If you add Louise Perry in there rather than Jess Phillips, for example, or Stella Carisi or whatever, I mean, we'd all be relatively happy.
	It's just, how susceptible are these institutions to ideological capture?
	And obviously, in Argentina specifically, it's just rotten from foundation to top.
	Yeah.
	Well, there's never been a successful gender ministry.
	But yeah, gender is the wrong word for it.
	That's why.
	No, either way.
	I mean, you can get your gender roles from reality because that's why men and women are different.
	This BS narrative and ideology has to be state funded.
	But the reason those roles came about is because we weren't facing the same technological pressures now.
	I mean, so you would need someone who... It's not just technology.
	The birth control pill, surrogacy, things like that.
	In order to craft national, international legislation about that, you do need someone to include into it.
	You don't need to foster a culture in which men and women are equal to deal with technology.
	I'm not saying that.
	Yeah, you don't need to have a state-funded mechanism to deal with it.
	You can do it on a private basis.
	I don't agree, but fair enough.
	So let's move on and talk about the challenge basically that he's facing, because it's fun to look at chainsaws, look at the dancing moves and look at the rhetoric that appeals to people's emotion.
	This is, you could say, necessary to win an election, but he is going to face a major difficulty now.
	Let us, before I say what this is, let me just say some Data.
	So Peronists have governed for the 16 out of the last 20 years, but basically they are saying that they have set the stage for the last 45 years of Argentinian history.
	And perhaps you could say even more because Juan Perón assumed power in 1946 and until 1951, and then there was a period of turmoil.
	He came back, then his wife was involved into politics.
	They have set the cultural agenda for it.
	So basically, what happens is that Argentina is South America's second largest country.
	It is ravaged by hyperinflation for several months now.
	Inflation is more than 100%.
	I think right now it's close to 140%.
	So it's one of the, you could say, areas where you could definitely talk about The Austrian economics and the fear of the impact of high inflation.
	So this causes people to not save in local currency and they want to buy dollars and US dollars.
	And this has because the government has said that you're only allowed to purchase 200 US dollars a month.
	This has led into a huge black market.
	Of US dollars.
	This is one issue.
	Now, basically, their economy is stagnating and it loses its competitive edge.
	And they have massive spending on all sorts of welfare schemes, on price subsidies, energy subsidies.
	Just I saw here from The Economist that Last year, they had $12.5 billion, which is 2% of Argentinian GDP, just for electricity subsidies.
	So they're basically spending a lot.
	They have a fiscal deficit for the last 13 years.
	Out of the roughly 45 million people in Argentina, around 14 million people are working and more than a third are working in the public sector.
	So it's basically you have an economy that to a very large extent is based on the public sector.
	They are printing lots of money.
	And there are fears, as you mentioned before, of tying the Argentinian peso with the U.S.
	dollar.
	But there's also the pragmatic worry that people have that there is no culture of fiscal responsibility in Argentina.
	And perhaps the worst thing is to carry on with the Argentinian central bank printing more money.
	Alternative sources of funding have to do with the IMF.
	Over a third of IMF's credit is Argentinian debt.
	And it's close to 80% of the GDP, which is close to $630 billion.
	which is close to $630 billion.
	So it's a lot. - They're also hooked up to the Chinese Belt and Road scheme.
	So they've got some of the largest lithium flats, the giant, they call it white gold flats in the world.
	And so they've just sold them off to the Chinese to make batteries.
	So that's very precarious.
	And I've heard also that they have really rich copper reserves that they just do nothing with, and that Chile does, and they are Basically, these reserves are in mountains that they share close in the border.
	I think it's the Andes region.
	And Chile is doing something about it.
	Argentina is doing nothing about it until so far.
	So let us look at here the debt to GDP ratio.
	So the wrong tab.
	Yeah, it will be fixed.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	So basically, let's go down here.
	It says it's close to 80.3% of the country's GDP.
	I mean, there are worse.
	I mean, yeah, we're worse.
	We've tipped 100% this year.
	Greece is 166% and it reached 200 and something percent some years ago, but that was also due to the shrinkage of the GDP during COVID.
	And let me just say also here we have all of this stuff.
	So basically, I won't say that the challenge that Millais is facing is that he has appealed to sentiment, which is necessary to win an election.
	But the issue is that he needs to carry on He needs to move swiftly because the policies he is putting forward yield results in the mid to short to long term.
	So the question is, how long is the short term?
	If it's too long, people might lose the belief that he can solve the problem and may think that he is part of it.
	When you have 40% of Argentinians being in the below poverty levels, it is easy to think in a volatile manner.
	So the issue here is that he has one with a rhetoric that has mobilized people, but he's in a bit precarious a position because he can easily lose that crowd if that short term before the good results of economic liberalization show.
	Is a period that is extensive and people start looking at what he's doing as part of the problem rather than a solution to it.
	Not just that, this is a mistake Trump made.
	If you're going to try and bend the institutions to your will or even scrap them or reform them or kick everyone out of their jobs, where do your enemies go?
	They don't just disappear.
	This is something that the left should have learned with cancel culture.
	If you cancel someone, they don't just Vanish from the face of the earth.
	Exile doesn't work like it used to, where people wandered into the wilderness and died of exposure and starvation.
	These people will mobilize against him, be it subversively or violently.
	It's South America, after all.
	They have an incentive to ally with illegal gangs.
	He better have some really good protection and he better have a plan with what to do with these people, should they come for him.
	Yes, there's also the question of sabotaging by syndicalists and all people who are going to protest and they're going to strike and all these things.
	So he has a tough job and I hope he improves Argentina.
	But one thing is that old habits die hard and I've been told.
	That there is this kind of mentality in Argentina.
	A lot of people are talking against it.
	Again, they call it Viveza Criolla.
	I mentioned it just a bit before that.
	They say that it's a way of navigating the Argentinian culture.
	And it has to do with thinking that basically the system is so corrupt that the only way to get ahead is to just cheat the system.
	And that fosters a culture of disrespect for other people, for norms, for institutions, and also for the common good.
	And basically they're saying that Essentially, it's basically status mentality.
	It's the mentality and the culture you get after decades of statism.
	Isn't that what you've seen before in former communist countries and in Eastern Europe, where corruption is just sort of the norm and it's actually baked into the system?
	Yeah, well, you're entirely right.
	I mean, I would just be repeating what Celio said, but yes.
	So the issue is that all habits die hard and when we are dealing with decades of Peronism, which has led into a moral corruption in Argentina according to what people say, This doesn't change overnight.
	It doesn't change over two years.
	It doesn't change over four years.
	It requires a sort of moral revolution that is lasting.
	And I think that basically there is this mentality of blaming others and not assuming responsibility has to change into a mentality of assuming responsibility.
	And if you want to check a bit more, check out the Symposium No.
	45 on the Problem of Free Will and Moral Responsibility.
	This is a rather unflattering image, I must say.
	Anyway.
	I thought it made you look like a statesman, but never mind.
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	Please, can you guys help me?
	Because there's a camera in front of me.
	For the first three months.
	Yeah, for the first three months.
	Okay.
	So, uh, I hope melee succeeds into making Argentina a better place.
	All right, let's go to the video columns.
	By the time you guys watch this, I will be under the knife.
	As I found out recently that I have testicular cancer, I'm going to be losing one of my boys and I could use all the prayers and well wishes and whatnot that I can get.
	I'm also going to be three grand in the hole.
	Give, send, go forward slash brinker ball.
	Well, at least Harry got one more trans fan.
	I wish you all the best and I wish you a recovery.
	It is very important to have really good psychology when you're dealing with this.
	Yeah, that's why I tried to make light of it.
	Sorry, man, there's literally nothing I can say to make it better, but I mean, well done for you to being brave enough to talk about it.
	Good luck.
	I read earlier, I don't know if it's true, if you lost the ball, but Nigel Farage had testicular cancer in his 20s.
	Yeah, he said that.
	So it's not even a barrier to the rest of your life.
	It's just something you've got to overcome and I'm sure you'll do fine.
	Yeah, you too can go on to eat kangaroo anus in the middle of the Australian jungle.
	Next one.
	Is it mad of me, to want to live in a Christian nation free of Islam?
	These days, it seems as though to speak ill of Islam, is no longer allowed.
	Ever since 9-11, there has been a constant placative narrative, trying to normalize the religion, in the minds of the populace.
	I may be barely old enough to remember Christendom, but it was better than the world we have now.
	Is it mad of me to desire more unity in a nation, and less diversity?
	To have more things in common with my countrymen?
	Right now, all around the world I see no home.
	Communities have vanished.
	All I see now, is rising hatred towards people, because of their skin color and history.
	With a growing genocidal mentality.
	Yes.
	AI voice.
	I agree with everything you said.
	Can I make a recommendation?
	If you are using AI, send me your comments.
	It's probably not something we should encourage, but if you are going to do it, just as a private request, could you do more of David Attenborough?
	Because the channel that was doing 40k lore and his voice has been hit with a copyright strike and taken down, and I miss it.
	That's all.
	Didn't even know it was possible.
	Right, let's go to the written comments on the site.
	Okay, JJHW.
	The Russians are interested in the total destruction of the Ukrainian military, that is, victory.
	The Ukrainians are already on shaky ground.
	If the US stops funding them, their entire economy collapses.
	That's why loads of the funding was going to paying the pensions of state bureaucrats as well.
	If they pull the plug, then that's it.
	Bleach Demon.
	One of the more interesting facets of the Ukraine war is how little the peace-at-any-cost crowd has been silent on the ceasefire or negotiated settlement.
	Which, to this humble observer, shows that this conflict is nothing more than a wag-the-dog scenario for Western politicians to maneuver and jockey some vague and vacuous ideological edego of stroking.
	I think you're neglecting as well the lobbyist dimension there, because the military-industrial complex, particularly after President Trump didn't start any new wars and actually ended quite a few of them, have no guaranteed revenue stream, not like the pharmaceutical companies did with lockdown.
	So they are making absolute bank off of needing their weapons reserves for domestic countries replenished if we're sending them all of their old stuff.
	So, that's the financial incentive behind it, and then of course there's loads of Members of Congress and Members of Parliament who don't have to report their stock earnings, who undoubtedly have stocks in these businesses.
	I mean, at the last Conservative Party conference, not this year, it was the year before, there was a, was it a Boeing stand or a Lockheed Martin stand where you could pose with a missile launcher and take photos?
	I mean, yeah, it looks aesthetically cool, but then the money behind it, linked to the Parliament, is not great.
	Not fantastic.
	Richard, Ukraine has been more of a war of indecision, inaction and incompetence.
	The Prime Minister of Ukraine was never going to win this one in terms of popularity or in terms of territory, etc.
	Zelensky's president, but yes.
	Being popular is not a remit for success.
	The man is a dangerous fool, a stubborn moron.
	Time has shown that.
	A sane man would have sued for peace.
	There is no future in the conflict.
	Only those who make claims to 4D chess and keeping rivals occupied while we make money and build new things.
	These individuals are living in the same unreality as Zelensky.
	They are not in charge.
	They are not reading the situation correctly.
	There is no progress or building anymore.
	Welcome to the real world.
	I think you're conflating stupidity and profiteering there as motives.
	I think actually that the confected narrative about Ukraine being a bastion of democracy is just to sell it to the plebs, who are obviously in revolt when everything's getting more expensive, and then it's immediately blamed on Putin and the war.
	We're like, okay, why are you prolonging the war then?
	Why did Boris first week stop down any kind of peace talks?
	But there you go.
	I think that they're just profiteering and they know what they're doing, but they just don't care.
	That's gotta be a plant.
	Well, University Conservative Association recently had a debate on stopping aid to Ukraine and a new member, a lad from Donetsk, made a speech.
	Liar.
	He had a black sun patch on his bag.
	Ooh, boy.
	Started talking about a fourth Reich and how Ukraine would have revenge on those who betrayed her if we stopped sending aid.
	It was somewhat uncomfortable.
	That's got to be a plan.
	Lie it.
	They're pretty normal.
	Unrelated to that, if you do have a University Conservative Association, we do do events.
	We've got one coming up in Bristol later this week, so just send us an email I suppose.
	Grant Gibson, I do love how Constantine Kissin wrote, we weren't wrong to support them and encourage them.
	So many young dead men and women disagree, dude.
	Yes, I mean, I've always been on the side of one foreign war, so I don't want to dump money into it.
	No, Putin is not going to sail across the channel and invade us.
	If anything, we were dumb to keep sanctioning him, but I don't want to cast aspersions on people who, in the commentariat, for honest reasons, who weren't just profiteering or weren't just buying into the end of history narrative, that said, maybe we might be able to help them out win this thing.
	I mean, It's not good.
	This is why I hate these conversations in general about this war.
	What does winning or losing look like?
	So the argument for sending stuff to Ukraine was not because they're going to take back all the territory, they've utterly failed obviously.
	It was so they could have some independence and being a rump state in the sense of half of your country is occupied by a neighbor and you're in some kind of quasi-war for the next 10 years but not many people die but you sit in trenches.
	That's still independence.
	That's still Zelensky and his elite and friends being in power.
	It's not all or nothing.
	There are other outcomes, and the one we're currently living in is one of those outcomes.
	Yeah, and that's why the low resolution take of, we fund them until they win, as in a total victory.
	Yeah, it does cost lives, and that's why I've never been willing to endorse that position.
	And people endorsing it, I mean...
	They screwed up, I suppose, at least they're backing off of it now.
	Connor Lewis.
	Not bad.
	25 minutes before Connor made the same weird self-blame game.
	Russia's reaction to NATO's borders changing is not the fault of the West.
	Russia has absolutely no right to object to its neighbors joining a defensive alliance.
	The only people who would get angry about a nearby defensive alliance are people who want to invade their neighbors.
	Yeah.
	No, no.
	Sorry.
	Where was, where was I saying that?
	Yeah, I totally agree with Russia.
	I'm saying that if people made the argument for that, they were then called a Putin apologist and people spurg out about it.
	Like you just did, when I gave a fairly neutral reading of it.
	And also, if you know the Russians are volatile, the argument was, beware provoking them if you don't want to escalate to this situation.
	It was just a pragmatic concern.
	It wasn't a moral assessment, but keep crying.
	Callum?
	There is a fair criticism there, though, that I find.
	Because you get it, especially on the right, where it's like, well, NATO expanded, so it's therefore, it's like, yeah, but why do any of these countries want to join NATO?
	Yeah, sure.
	It's because their neighbor is Russia.
	Yeah, sure.
	So, I don't not get it.
	Yeah, but I wasn't even arguing that.
	I was just saying as soon as someone turned around and says it, they were called a Putinapologist, and that's just silly.
	I was just talking to the debate that happens.
	Anyway, so on to this stuff.
	So, Matt P says the average article on the BBC website is 100 times funnier than anything that passes for comedy nowadays.
	Yeah, just go check out Pigeon if you're feeling bored.
	Arizona Desert Rad said, here's my question.
	Do these bones of people of African descent show more, the same amount, or less nutritional deficiency as those of white people?
	Nutrition would be the greatest factor in surviving the plague, not color of your skin.
	Well, I guess those with super immune systems would be most likely to survive.
	I don't know.
	That's an interesting fact to consider, actually.
	One thing I'd love to ask, though, is how, if racism is real, how can you determine the race of a pile of bones?
	I've always been annoyed by this.
	This is why we had that AI conversation, where the AI can tell the race of an individual looking at their bones, and the creators of the AI couldn't figure out how.
	Sorry, but if these categories aren't existing, you can't put people into these categories, as the researcher just did.
	Well, those categories obviously do exist, if you can.
	If you can't, then you wouldn't be able to.
	Yeah, the conversation should not be about whether or not the categories exist.
	It's by virtue of them existing that they have any moral weight.
	Yeah, what can you do with them?
	Sorry, just a side point of me being annoyed with some people.
	So, Colin Peace says, sorry, did that journalist talk about the death of colour?
	Plague won the number of black people in the Tudor period as if it was the same thing.
	The black death hit around 1350.
	Henry VII came to the throne in 1509.
	That's a century and a half between them.
	Yeah, they did just skip over that.
	They bring in the Tudor lady just as a backup, so yeah.
	Again, journalists are worse than We could ever imagine and deserve everything we can give them, in terms of disgust.
	George Happ says, having 20 or so minutes of hate against gender should be a recurring segment.
	I'll do my best.
	Captain Charlie the Beagle says, funny how the archaeologists are okay to determine the race of a skeleton, but for some reason they can't tell the gender of the dead.
	Yeah, that's not my point, I'm just... I'm so bored of those people that come along and say gender's not real, race doesn't exist, but also I can tell you the race and gender of these bones, it's like...
	Pick one!
	At least pick one!
	Yeah, but you underestimate people's ability to live with staggering cognitive dissonance.
	And make money off of it.
	True.
	Derek says, Pidgin English is what happens when you marry your first cousin.
	No it isn't, because that's Nigeria, so I'm sorry, we're in the wrong part of the world there, but it is what happens when you can't uphold standards, I think.
	Because it's like when people talk about, what is it?
	Black American English, I forget there's a term for it in, what would you call them, dialect communities, like people who study language, I forget the name, but there's a name for Black American English, where it's now been declared its own dialect in some circles, and obviously a bunch of the other linguistic communities are just like, no, it's obviously just speaking wrong, and there's these arguments like, no, no, no, saying what was that?
	It's actually It's a genetic thing.
	Back from the ages of Nigeria, when they lived in Nigeria, this language, trust me, bro, trust me, it had something to do with the English language.
	When you mix it, it becomes, what is that?
	Oh, it's like when people say, rather than A-S-K, A-K-S, when they say Oct.
	Yeah, it's just like, no, this is... Oct is your question.
	This is not some origins of the Yubu people coming through in the linguistic pronunciation of English.
	It's like, no, it's just not speaking English right.
	Go to hell.
	Sorry.
	I'm mad about a few things today.
	I'll end this off with Arizona Desert Rat saying, hmm, all those Native American families I knew observed Thanksgiving, and I don't think anyone would be happy about losing a four-day weekend.
	Have a good luck with keeping up.
	Before I go to mine, I think you have to read the Honorable Mention.
	Is there an Honorable Mention?
	You have to read it.
	Why?
	Unrelated to today's podcast, but have you seen the BBC's article claiming that black women are most likely affected by the plague?
	Uh, we'll have to cover it tomorrow, I suppose.
	I don't know, Bilbo.
	Bilbo, it's not for us.
	Okay.
	So, um, Citizen Philosopher Detroit, I love it so much when Stelios is in a shhh IT posting mood.
	Can I say it?
	Well, you don't need to now.
	Okay.
	That absolutely makes for my favorite podcast.
	Tell your mom to log out of her account.
	I'm happy you say this.
	Thank you.
	Johnny Correa, Ministry of Women and the likes are the product of ideological subversion in the first place.
	Humanity didn't need a higher political structure to develop gender roles or any other morality access for that matter outside of religion.
	You can't legislate morality and any attempt is just a band-aid to an already crumbling social tissue.
	You can legislate based on morality, especially when it has international concerns.
	It's like Maloney banning surrogacy.
	I mean, that is an actual women's issue with implications that go just beyond national borders.
	Ebonics, people are saying in the chat.
	Well, you know what I mean?
	Yes.
	So, no, no, no, I really like this comment because I really understand what it says.
	It says that it's just a ban aid to an already crumbling social tissue because I feel the same way about Greece in a way.
	And from my conversation with people, I've understood that Argentina is close to it in some respects.
	And there is this mentality that basically No, things can change.
	It's just statism and people rant about it.
	But every time someone tries to do something about it, everyone says, oh, no, I'm going to lose my personal benefits.
	And so I really understand what it says.
	Someone online.
	Journos.
	No, you can't go against the socialist status quo.
	Malay.
	Haha.
	Change the goal.
	This is the funniest video.
	Yeah, it fills you with energy somehow.
	You know, you're present.
	There should be more props in British Conversational.
	Another Question Time where someone brings out a machete.
	That would be good.
	Just to make a point.
	Is Mizzy on any time soon?
	I mean, that's not... I think the audience is going to run screaming, Callum.
	That's actually a good idea.
	No, we're talking about Mizzy.
	So we pull out the machetes and be like, wow, is this threatening?
	No?
	Okay.
	To the BBC, if I ever go on Question Time, I will not be bringing a machete.
	I disavow anything my colleague just said.
	I'll be bringing my AK.
	Thank you very much.
	Derek Power.
	Remember that Millet hates socialists and they are the most destructive of anything and everything traditional.
	I worry less about Millet not being traditional than I am of the socialists doing what they have always done.
	You can care about more than one thing at once.
	The Unbreakable Litany.
	Millet demands Falkland's back, counter-offer we make him PM, and in return welcome the whole of Argentina to His Majesty's loving embrace.
	I don't know about it.
	I don't know if it's just legit or not.
	I don't care about the Falkland Islands.
	Maybe this is a generational divide other than like sticking it to the RGs for fun.
	If the British people that live there really don't want to become part of Argentina, I'm happy to have that fight.
	There's a lot of money there.
	I can't be forced to care.
	I just, I don't know.
	Maybe it's me being short-sighted.
	Yakub Bogdanov.
	It lays a curiosity to me.
	Uncapped Zionist.
	There should be no state except the Jewish state.
	Truly something out of Stonehouse.
	Yaron Brook has done that before as well.
	Where Yaron Brook has said, we essentially need open migration to abolish the welfare state.
	And then when he was asked, oh, is it okay for Israel to have a border wall?
	And he went, yeah, because they're constantly under attack.
	And it's like, England!
	Please!
	I really do hate how the memes just work.
	Have you seen the, have you seen the, Lord Jesus, I see what you've done for other people and I want it for me.
	Every time that Israel posts about their demographics and their birth rates and their economy and their immigration policy, I'm just like... Another 500 billion from the American taxpayer.
	It's just like... Alright, I don't want to drain all my Yankee friends.
	We can have, we can have all of their stuff without necessarily parasitizing the American hegemony.
	I hope.
	Look, look, we're America's greatest ally, not Israel, that's what I'm saying.
	And, uh, two, two more.
	Millet, George Happ.
	Millet is the embodiment of high energy and has been showing his power level throughout the campaign.
	Plus his, he does have the super Saiyan hair.
	Throwing a spirit bomb at the gender equality department is one of the top anime battles in history.
	And also Hector Rex Corner.
	It's okay to have fun with memes.
	Also Goku has been around for four decades, so he hits a side swath of age groups.
	And let me just say, someone I saw from here.
	Which I want you to explain to me.
	It says that Melee reached level 9000.
	Oh, it's over 9000 is a power level meme from Dragon Ball Z. Well, we're out of time.
	Yeah, but JJHW.
	Melee's power is over 9000.
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