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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #749

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	Hello and welcome to Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 749 on the 26th of September 2023.
	I'm I'm Dan and I'm joined by Dan and Stan from Voice of Wales.
	Hi guys.
	Good evening.
	Good afternoon.
	Yeah, good to have you here.
	Good morning.
	But hopefully we stay here, and not to alarm you, dear audience, but there seems to be quite a sizeable presence of EOD, Army Bond Squad, in town, and a large section of town by the Lotuses' office has been closed off, so hopefully we make it through the show alright.
	If there is any loud bangs or anything, it is probably just John who's tripped over a wire or something, but, you know, we will bear this in mind.
	Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
	Yep, so anyway, thanks so much for joining us.
	Shall we jump into the first one, shall we?
	Perfect.
	Dame Caroline Dainage must resign.
	Now, this is the midwit in Parliament, the one who heads up the Culture, Media and Sport Committee, who has taken it upon herself to demand that Russell Brand cannot earn any income.
	Because he's been accused of something.
	Accused?
	Yes, accused.
	There is no police investigation at this point, but the Times and Channel 4 have said that he's done bad things and therefore his ability to earn in this country must be removed.
	Not the way that we're supposed to do things.
	No, but hasn't Russell Brand admitted and put all this out in public for years, actually?
	Well, I mean, he made it a main feature of his stand-up routine and he wrote a book about it, so he's been reasonably open about his sort of exploits of the past.
	Yeah.
	Which gives us, you know, this is the letter that she sent out.
	She's actually sent out a whole bunch of these different letters, but this one is, that's the one to rumble.
	Um, where is she?
	So she's saying the Culture, Media and Sport Committee is raising questions with broadcasters and production companies who previously employed Mr Brand to examine both the culture of the industry and blah blah blah.
	Um, where's the, where's the meaty bit?
	Oh yes, we recognize, while we recognize that Rumble is not a creator of the content published by Mr Brand, we are concerned that he may be able to profit from his content On the platform.
	We would be grateful if you could confirm whether Mr. Brown is able to monetize his content, including his videos relating to these serious allegations against him.
	If so, we would like to know whether Rumble intends to join YouTube in suspending Mr. Brown's ability to earn money on the platform.
	It's just shocking isn't it?
	I mean it is pretty outrageous because you know in this country you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty and actually even if you're guilty there is still no provision that says that you can't earn in this country.
	Exactly.
	Loads and loads of people have been to jail convicted of serious crimes and then they come out and they earn money.
	Yeah.
	There was nothing again.
	But let alone somebody who's not even under police investigation.
	This is just a couple of allegations.
	Hasn't Bronson written a book and earned money from it while still in prison?
	Yeah, loads of people have.
	Loads of people have written books while in prison and had that published.
	I don't know what happens to the money.
	I mean, presumably it racks up waiting for them on the other side.
	But I mean, that is the only way that the government can stop you earning money, is to have you in prison.
	I mean, I don't like Brand.
	I've never liked Brand.
	I'm not a fan myself.
	And I think he's got the morals of an alley cat.
	Having said that, these accusations, you know, it's ridiculous that somebody can be penalized.
	Well, demonetized.
	And more to the point, even if he's guilty of them, Unless he's actually in jail, it's not the role of government to stop you earning, even if you're under investigation, even if you're guilty.
	The only thing that there is, there is the Proceeds of Crime Act.
	So if you're a drug dealer and you've bought a Mercedes or whatever, with the proceeds of your crime, that can be taken away from you.
	And that must be what she's thinking.
	And she's thinking that the content he puts out is somehow the crime and that's what must be penalised.
	Well, the content he puts out isn't him about About him having sex?
	No.
	The content that he puts out is critical of the government.
	Yes.
	So in her mind, she's done the mental calculation.
	The crime is the content he puts out, the dissident content.
	Yep.
	And it's funny that because yesterday I was reading in the Express that a man has got £86,000 in the bank, he's defrauded the social security of £28,000 and he's got you know, some community order, but he's not been asked to pay the money back.
	You know, so there's one law for one and one law for another.
	Oh, and absolutely the case.
	So this is the thing.
	I think a lot of people are having the difficulty with this is they can't see beyond the personality.
	So this is the pushback that I've had whenever I've talked about this.
	People are saying, oh, you're just a brand sicker fan, or you're just, I'm not a brand.
	And you've said yourself, you know, you're not a fan of brand either.
	None of us here particularly like brand.
	I mean, I like some of his messaging late, but I don't particularly like him, you know, for who he is and what he's done.
	I don't like any of that.
	But the pushback you always get is, OK, no, you're just defending Brown.
	No, it is the principle that matters.
	And it is obviously a case of going after him because of the messaging he's putting out.
	So to give you an example, let's have a look at one case I found this morning.
	So this is...
	This is a BBC man.
	Surprising how often BBC men come up in this.
	This is a story from this morning of a BBC guy who has now been convicted of, and it is quite horrific, sexually torturing 60 dogs.
	And they all died in the process and he filmed himself doing this.
	Absolutely disgusting individual.
	This is just one example that I picked from the BBC website today.
	They've probably taken lessons from the statue outside the BBC, Eric Hill, because he was He had fun with his animals as well, didn't he?
	Yeah, there's definitely something about the BBC that prompts this sort of thing.
	But, you know, she didn't write any letters to the BBC, and I think National Geographic was his other employer.
	She didn't write any letters to the BBC, National Geographic, saying, look, this man has been, you know, a year ago, because he's been convicted now.
	She didn't write any letters saying, OK, close this man down, stop him from earning.
	So it is clearly not about the crime.
	It's about the fact that Brand, because the story was big enough, it popped up on the radar of a midwit like Caroline Dynage.
	And so she thought, yeah, I'm leaning into the narrative here, and I'm going to put him down for this one.
	That's clearly what it was.
	And then you've got to ask, OK, well, why was he in the narrative in the first place?
	Yeah, I mean, this is clearly an overreach by government in trying to be the nanny state.
	Yeah.
	If Brand would have been in Wales, he'd have been incarcerated by now, wouldn't he?
	Even without any evidence.
	I can imagine.
	It is a police state in Wales, without a doubt.
	Yeah, all the conventions that we used to have are breaking down.
	A friend of the show who came on a few weeks ago, who YouTube's under the name of Academic Agent, put out a good video on this.
	Let's see if we can play that now.
	Now the thing is is that Russell Brand hasn't been charged with any crime at this point.
	He is innocent until proven guilty under the rule of law and Dame Carolyn Dineage as the chair of the Culture, Media and Sports Committee has completely Violated what is expected of her office and undermined the rule of law in this country.
	As my good buddy Carl Benjamin pointed out, she's violated one of the few clauses of the Magna Carta which is still in effect, which is that an Englishman's property may not be arbitrarily seized or stripped from him without the lawful judgment of his peers.
	She must resign or be fired immediately.
	And I agree with this.
	Yeah, he's absolutely right.
	Spot on.
	Absolutely spot on.
	And these, you know, these sorts of things are really important to society as a whole, you know, when you can be selective with whose messaging is going out, who's going to be dealt with for crimes that haven't yet been proved.
	And, you know, it's very selective.
	There needs to be a process.
	Can we, let's get the, we've got the, There we go.
	There's Carl's tweet.
	He put that out.
	It's clear that Caroline Dynage must resign for pressuring Rumble, TikTok, Facebook and Twitter to demonetize Russell Brand.
	It is unacceptable in a democracy that any politician should leverage state power against a private citizen to bring about their ruin.
	Absolutely right.
	Speaking of Carl, He's actually on holiday at the moment, which is why we've hacked the system, and we've got a code going, which is Sargon, with an E, because that's very clever, you see, because he's gone on holiday.
	Very clever.
	So while he's gone on holiday, you type the code Sargon into the website, and you will be able to get a half-price subscription for the next three months.
	Any tier, including gold, so do sign up for that.
	What else?
	Oh yep, this is Lee Hurst.
	I don't think we've had Lee on the show yet but he's very welcome to come on.
	Caroline Dynage wants Russell Brand to not be able to earn a living even though he's not yet been charged with an offence while she is comforted by the knowledge that as an MP she can still receive her salary even if she was in prison.
	Yes.
	The irony.
	Quite.
	I mean the only thing I can say about Caroline is that she is the MP for Gosport And without the Royal Navy they'd still be, you know, the gene pool is very very thin down there.
	Gosport is very close to me.
	I'm sort of down Southampton way, but those of us in Southampton, we understand what you're dealing with in Portsmouth and Gosport.
	My understanding was that back in the 1700s, the prostitutes were too poxy to earn a living in London and go down to Portsmouth.
	I think that explains the Jean Paul of Portsmouth.
	All of us Southamptoners know that sort of thing.
	Yeah, but I think, you know, you open your social media, you go on Facebook, the first thing you see is a story about Russell Brand.
	It's someone coming out to say, you know, to condemn him.
	But it's always, it's never from a direct source.
	It's always someone shared this, someone shared that, someone saying this.
	There's nobody actually coming out with it, putting their name to it and saying it's them.
	You know, it's all hidden.
	And why would the accusers actually go to Channel 4 first?
	It's a bit like Monica Lewinsky putting her dress in the fridge for 17 years.
	I made that comment and a lot of people responded to me and pointed out to that they didn't even do that.
	The Times and Channel 4 went to them and said, is there anything you'd like to tell us about Russell Brown?
	You know, you can have your five minutes of fame if you'd like, anything you'd like to get off your chest.
	And Russell was apparently aware of this going on for quite some time because a lot of people were getting in touch with him saying, you know, I've had a journalist asking me for dirt on you.
	Um, and I told them to clear off.
	But, you know, obviously if you... Is it a thousand or ten thousand women he's supposed to have slept with?
	I don't know.
	Over a thousand, I think, yeah.
	Oh, eleven thousand.
	My producer has fact-checked.
	Eleven thousand.
	Would you, I don't know, remember to see how clicker was?
	Yeah, you must do.
	But, you know, and we know the way he used to be, you know, and how he used to act and behave.
	But what we've got to remember is this was enabled by the BBC and Channel 4.
	And whereas what he was doing maybe immoral, You know, it's not illegal, you know, if girls are voluntarily going into their hero's dressing room.
	Yeah, it was apparently that while he was at, because he had apparently a show at Channel 4, I never, well I haven't watched any TV for decades and decades, but apparently he had a show and he would get the, if he saw a girl he liked in the audience, he would go and get them to give him their number or whatever, bring them over.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They still said, yep, alright, I'd like to do that.
	And I lived in London for a long time, and for a good long while, every young woman you saw on the Tube, well not everyone, but lots of them, we sat there reading the bloody Russell Brown books.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The guy obviously had some sort of connection with the fairer sex.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know if you heard that in your ear, 1.5 a day?
	Yeah.
	Good God.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	But it is exactly that, you know.
	It was, from what we've seen from previous, that it was consensual.
	And, you know, he had that sort of rock star sort of vibe around him and he had his groupies that were, you know, they didn't care about anything other than they're getting a night with Russell Brandt.
	My sister went to see him, I can't remember where, but at the end of his show he said, you know, if any of you ladies want to come back to the hotel room with me, I'm going to be in the bar after the show.
	And if it's something you're not really experienced in, come along and we'll teach you.
	So he's always been very open about it and I suppose when you know you've got groupies and you're a bit of a sex addict and you can just say, anybody want some?
	And then they'll come flooding.
	You're going to do it, aren't you?
	Yes.
	You know, but again, it's the same like you said there about the journalists approaching people.
	It's the same sort of thing we've seen with Andrew Tait.
	Good point.
	After this podcast, I will be in the leaky tap down the far end of Swindon, so if any of our podcast viewers want to, you know, come and try their luck with me, if they're lovely lassies, you know, that's your opportunity.
	Fair play to him, I suppose if it works.
	I'm not commending that sort of behaviour but the fact is it is still a consensual thing and it is still a tiny minority.
	Let's call up this guy He sort of unpacks it quite well.
	Wilco115.
	He points out the presumption of innocence.
	Before anyone is convicted in a court of law, they are presumed innocent.
	An MP judging a case would be viewed as an attempt to influence public opinion and possibly the outcome of illegal proceedings.
	The role of a parliamentary committee is to scrutinise government policy and administration.
	They often make recommendations based on their inquiries directly intervening in specific private sector decisions or prejudging individual cases is well beyond their usual remit.
	Even if he was investigated, even if he was convicted, then it is still wrong for a government to remove somebody's abilities to earn unless they're actually in prison.
	Well, not that I like the EU, but under human rights, you've got the right to work.
	But I go back to Magna Carta.
	Even if you have been criticising the government?
	Yeah.
	I also wanted to talk about Big Brother Watch.
	Now this is an organisation which I think is more or less on our side.
	I think I like these guys.
	I hate punching right or punching within the sphere of people on our side of the freedom.
	I'm not going to criticize him too much, but I am going to bring up a disagreement that I had with the, um, uh, the boss of this place, um, um, on, um, on, on Twitter.
	Now that I, I, I think, I think these are good guys.
	I did notice that the, uh, George Soros is open society is, is, is one of their funders that, that may or may not mean anything.
	I'm, I'm not too sure.
	Um, but, um, we, we, we got, hang on, we, we got, um, yeah, Silkies, Silkies did, did, did, uh, who's the boss of this, uh, did a, did a thread on this and said that she criticized censorship whenever it happens.
	Um, but the government did not try and censor Russell Brand.
	So I'm not, I'm not gonna, uh, not, not gonna start bashing Big Brother Watch.
	Because like I said, I think they're pretty much on our side.
	But I did want to get into this line of reasoning.
	Because frankly, there's the low definition view of this, which is, oh, if you've got a problem with this, you're just a Russell Brand sycophant.
	Now, that's obviously nonsense.
	That's a very low IQ, very low resolution tech.
	I also want to take on what I think is the ultra granular view that Silky is putting across here.
	So, you know, she says in this tweet thread, We'd led the campaign against the surveillance and censorship powers in the online safety bill for Few people care about this huge extension of online surveillance and censorship more than me.
	And I'm furious that Brand is misrepresenting and exploiting the issue.
	He serves only himself.
	Well, I don't disagree that he serves himself.
	I mean, that kind of is his agenda, but I think there was a genuine issue here.
	She goes on to say further down that she doesn't have a good faith interpretation of that letter from Caroline Dynage.
	She thinks it was written in bad faith, it was extremely ill-judged and a terrible overreach.
	So she's definitely against it, but none of it makes it government censorship.
	And then she goes on in comments to go and explain that she's not a government official, she's just an MP.
	My response, because I think this is important and worth responding to, this line of thinking, is that what happened here is we've got two government-funded media groups who went after Brand.
	Now, people are going to say, oh, well, actually, they're not government.
	Well, actually, no, they are.
	Channel 4 gets a lot of its money from the government and The Times.
	Their circulation has collapsed.
	Where are they getting their money from?
	Advertisers.
	Who's the biggest advertiser?
	It's government, and it has been that way since COVID.
	So both of these are government-funded media organizations, right?
	So that part of the regime goes after them with an investigation, and they create this story by going out and speaking to enough women until they find something that looks good enough to present, okay?
	Then, you get a committee chair on House of Commons paper using a clear, implicit threat to destroy his income.
	And she gets no rebuke for that, right?
	And it was obvious what she meant by that.
	I mean, she didn't actually say, demonetize him.
	She said, you know, we're extremely concerned that he hasn't been demonetized or something like that.
	And do you intend to do it?
	Yes.
	Like YouTube already have.
	Yes.
	Um, so what, you know, what, what you, what you've, what you've essentially got is, I think Silk is, is, is fallen into the trap of being overly granular and saying, okay, well, this particular person is just the head of a committee.
	Yeah.
	And it's just an MP and therefore it doesn't matter.
	It, it, it, it does because they're giving the vibes out that what, what that particular committee are thinking.
	And so all the potential investors to brand might say, Ooh, Do we really want another battle?
	So Rumble and all of those other people are supposed to look at this and they're supposed to see the House of Commons heading new paper.
	Yeah.
	They're supposed to say, okay, somebody with connections clearly wants this guy off the platform.
	Correct.
	It's now a business risk to keep him on.
	Yeah.
	I'm always reminded of there was an episode.
	Did you ever watch The Sopranos?
	Yes, there was one episode of The Sopranos where Tony Soprano's wife, I think she's trying to get her daughter into a good school or something like that.
	And she goes along and she sort of heavily implies that it would be in your best interest to let this kid into this school, right?
	Now, you could say, well, hang on a minute.
	She's not actually a mob boss.
	She just knows a mob boss.
	Yeah, so actually, there's no threat there, because that's exactly what Caroline Dynich is doing here.
	So you've got the Westminster bubble, the heads of the Hydra, one of which is a lot of media funding going into bringing this guy down.
	Um, another one is, you know, the head of the Hydra that actually has all of these powers and the online safety bill.
	They've just got that through and they've got, you know, they've got vast scope to bring you down.
	And yet another head of the Hydra is saying, we're deeply concerned about this guy demonetizing like these other people.
	Yeah.
	And you're dealing with it.
	And okay.
	Yes, it is separate heads of the Hydra.
	Yes.
	But it's the same, same, you know, legs and feet attached to the bottom of this.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	And no doubt that would have been discussed.
	You know, that letter would have been written if she would have been advised on what to say, and no doubt that would have been her get-out-of-clothes.
	It's not saying, can you do this?
	It's asking a question, but it is a veiled threat.
	You know, it is that sort of thing.
	It is very much a tacit threat.
	So Silky, if you're watching, you're very welcome to come on and give your point of view.
	Like I say, I'm trying to give a good faith interpretation of how you're coming at this, but it is a much bigger issue than I think you appreciate, because I completely reject the low-resolution view, which is, you know, it's...
	You're only supporting this if you support Brown, and I reject the granular view as well.
	If it was low-resolution, it should have written as a private individual.
	Yes.
	She did it on... I mean, it was clear what she was trying to achieve.
	And actually, you bring up a good point.
	I mean, one of you said that it was a sort of tacit threat, and it is.
	That reminds me, do you ever... Do you remember, years and years ago, the petrol adverts for, I think it was Esso, and they did the Tiger rides?
	Yep.
	And the thing was, and for those of you who don't remember, but the SO Tiger Eyes advert was, we are always watching and if somebody's selling petrol in the area at a lower price, we will match that price.
	And I remember as a little kid, my mum saying, oh that's really good because they're going to keep prices low.
	And I was like, no mum, that's not what they're doing.
	What they're doing is they're sending a message to every other petrol station.
	If you lower your price, we will immediately match it and take away your competitive advantage.
	Yeah.
	So everybody let's keep our prices high.
	It was tacit collusion.
	Yes.
	And they can't get away with adverts like that now because it's obvious that it was tacit collusion.
	This is tacit intimidation.
	Yes.
	And you know that it is because if it wasn't, the government by now would have come out and said, we disavow this.
	Yeah.
	Or they would have stripped her of her committee chair or she would have been deselected as an MP.
	All of those things.
	And none of those things have happened.
	So this is clear tacit intimidation.
	Yeah.
	And that's exactly what happened to us with YouTube, isn't it?
	That's 100% what happened to us.
	When we were kicked off, we were allowed back on because, just to give a small piece of context, we shared BBC footage of Black Lives Matter when they were smashing up London and beating up police.
	Right.
	But that was reported en masse for violent content.
	We replied saying, hang on a minute, this is the BBC.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	The BBC content?
	Yes.
	So when they put it out, it's not violent.
	When you put it out, it is violent.
	Yes.
	We get people who watch what we do all the time and any video that goes out that could be interpreted as something, they will get mass reported.
	YouTube came back and they said, oh yeah, sorry, whoops, we got it wrong.
	Please forgive us.
	These things happen as they do in their pre-written replies.
	But then the Welsh government lobbied YouTube to say, oh, but voiceovers are actually quite dangerous.
	They're a threat to modern day Wales.
	We need to keep them off the platform.
	And they did.
	Well, and that's why this is so important, right?
	Because we don't have a written constitution in this country.
	What we have is a series of parliamentary and social conventions that basically dictates how we are governed.
	And when those social and parliamentary conventions are changed, as they were over COVID, well, I say COVID, lockdowns, what that does is it changes the method by which we are governed and how we will be governed in future.
	Absolutely.
	So this is really important.
	This woman has to go.
	She must.
	She must go.
	She must go.
	And do you know what?
	I didn't want a written constitution ever.
	But now I think that the American model and their constitution, as it came from the best of the British at the time who wrote it, I think that we now need I would be very afraid of who writes that now.
	Because if it was written today, it would bake in that white straight men are the worst of the worst and must be expunged from everything.
	Yes.
	No, it's got to be based on the American Constitution as was in 1776.
	If I could get, you know, the guys from, you know, the 1800s to come back and write us a constitution, I'd do that.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	The right to bear arms, the right to free speech.
	But you're right, you know, everything was brought in under lockdown.
	We were saying just before we started, things are brought in and used for other means, you know, we're seeing things that were brought in to enforce lockdown, things like cash, you know, now all of a sudden businesses are starting to say, well, I'm not going to take cash anymore.
	I don't know what you can do on this.
	I think you should write to UMP.
	I think you should kick up a stink.
	I don't think you should let this one drop.
	Yeah, and that's dangerous in a country that doesn't have a written constitution.
	Absolutely.
	So I don't know what you can do on this.
	I think you should write to UMP.
	I think you should kick up a stink.
	I don't think you should let this one drop.
	I did find a change.org thing, which is a petition to suspend Caroline Dynage from the UK Parliament.
	It's...
	It's new, it hasn't got many people yet, but I would urge people to do whatever they can, sign this, write to you MP, whatever you can do, but this woman has to go.
	Yes, actually that's a good one because if she's suspended for 14 days or 10 days and more then there can be a local ballot.
	So that's a good one.
	But they won't do because she's on their side.
	That's exactly how it works.
	I'm afraid so.
	Shall we find out what's going on in Wales?
	Where do you want to start?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But when I started writing this up, I thought, right, we can try and squeeze in a small amount of stuff with the time that we got, and hopefully bullet point.
	And I started talking about the 20 mile per hour and looking into a bit of research, and it turns out that we could talk about this again all day, couldn't we?
	So 20 mile per hour is coming in in Wales is probably the biggest thing happening.
	Is that in yet?
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's why we've been late getting here.
	17th of September.
	That must be a bloody nightmare.
	Well, it is because, of course, we've only got one motorway in Wales.
	It's the M4.
	And large chunks of that are at 50.
	So they've brought it from 70 to 50.
	Then you've got the main arterial road that runs from Cardiff to Holyhead, the A470.
	And chunks of that are now at 50.
	So they're actually attacking the motorists night and day.
	It's actually quite hard to drive at 20.
	I mean, it's just, it's just weird.
	Yeah.
	Think of a street light and it's 20.
	That's the slogan.
	Yeah.
	So you think how many, you know, day and night, 24 hours a day.
	20 miles an hour.
	Yeah.
	And obviously it's not going to stay there.
	Before long it's going to be 15 miles an hour and then you can only drive in reverse at 5 miles an hour.
	Well, they've got a cunning plan because it's going to be paid per mile.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we do.
	Because this is the point, you know, this is salami slicing again, isn't it?
	It's where they do a little bit at a time and, you know, with the 20 mile per hour it's the first thing and it's had big pushback, hasn't it?
	So, but the main thing about it at the moment is that nobody knows what the hell's going on.
	Nobody knows how they're supposed to drive and everybody's really confused.
	Like, we've got some pictures that we got up there.
	You can see one side of the road saying 20, the other side saying 30.
	And then if we go on to the next one, I don't know.
	There we are, there it is.
	So, you know, someone's put that sign up.
	Yeah.
	You know, 20 miles per hour, 30 miles per hour with a speed camera.
	What speed are you going to go?
	You're automatically going to default to 20 just in case you get caught by a speed camera where the road could well be 30 miles per hour.
	You don't have any of those awful people in Wales, do you?
	You know, those people have been going around sawing down Uless cameras.
	You don't think they're awful, aren't they?
	No, it's terrible.
	I don't think it's people in Wales.
	I think it's this global boiling.
	I've got some pictures as well of that.
	We've got about seven pictures.
	So, yeah, you know, the global boiling.
	The colour, I think, run and it's 20 and then we can keep on going through them.
	You know, that one fell down.
	They've all been sprayed.
	That one's been sprayed.
	Oh that's awful isn't it?
	It's dreadful and you've got there Cymru and Bethesda Welsh and Proud.
	I can't even read what the other one says.
	But then yeah it's just more examples of this happening and this is within days and we've seen it you know everywhere we go and we're seeing these signs being you know obviously there the sticky on the back of the two has come off because of how hot it's been.
	And there as well the paint must be running.
	I don't know, how dreadful.
	It is.
	And the point is, these signs alone cost millions and millions and millions of pounds to put up.
	The whole basis of this, bringing 20, according to Drakeford, is that it will save lives.
	And they estimate... Well, first, actually, first, it was for the climate.
	That's their big push.
	First of all, it's the green agenda.
	You know, 20 mile per hour is going to be better for the environment.
	But obviously, remember that science thing?
	Let's do a quick thought experiment.
	Let's just say that he's right and it's successful.
	And let's say he brings in another idea next week and the emissions of Wales go to zero.
	What percentage of world emissions is Wales?
	Well, I don't know the percentage of Wales, but I know we've got a climate guy who works with us, he's very good on the topic, Paul Burgess, and the whole man-made emissions from the UK is 0.8% of global emissions.
	Right, so Wales can't be more than 0.2.
	Yes, yes.
	So it's 0.2 of the world's emissions.
	So even if it goes to zero, it doesn't touch the sides.
	But I mean, it's fabricated, all this, because of course we've got Petalbit Steelworks that import coal.
	From Australia?
	From Australia.
	On a big tank of dirty diesel.
	But that's not our carbon footprint you see, it's somebody else's.
	Yeah, actually this is the big thing.
	So in order for companies to comply with BlackRock's emission requirements, what they've been doing a lot of the time is selling off subsidiary, the most carbon producing bits, they then sell it off And then have that as a third party and then buy from their old former subsidiary as a third party and it lowers and it improves their EOG score because they're now buying it in from another company rather than, it's complete and utter farce.
	Yeah, it absolutely is, you know, especially when you mention Port Talbot because they import that coal, the diesel used to push them tank from there to here where across the road from Port Talbot Steelworks you've got the best coal in the world.
	Just like coal.
	So they could just as easily start mining, conveyor belt, going straight across the Talbot because it is literally across the road.
	And if you cared about the environment, surely that's what you'd be doing.
	Yeah, because it's the cleanest coal.
	There's no travel, so there's no footprint.
	And you're burning coal, which is what they were burning.
	Yes.
	And you still get the same result now, only on paper you've shuffled it around to look like you've got less carbon, but actually you've got more.
	Yeah.
	And I don't even think the carbon thing is a problem in the first place.
	At least that.
	Well, no.
	Everything's carbon, isn't it?
	We're carbon.
	How green is our valley because of carbon?
	So Mr Drakeford, and he's 20, he's supposed to save 12 lives a year.
	That saves on hospital appointments.
	However, he fails to admit that there are normally about 360 odd children committing suicide across Wales.
	And that money, the millions that has been pushed into this, could have saved many more than 12.
	Yeah.
	He thinks that 12 will be saved by this.
	And how many children committed suicide?
	364 last year committed suicide.
	Children.
	We're not talking of adults.
	We're talking of children.
	The whole thing with government, it is a series of trade-offs.
	It would be great if the government could supply everybody with a helicopter and a mansion, but there's not enough resources.
	So you have to decide how you're going to spend your money.
	Obviously they could have spent half that money to have got twice as many lives saved.
	Yes.
	Well, you know, there was a perfect example.
	Someone put it up.
	There's obviously Facebook pages flying up all over the place against this 20 mile per hour.
	And someone put up a picture of a new grave with a new stone on it.
	And they said, you may ask why I'm posting this here.
	And the reason is This is my nan.
	She passed away because the ambulances couldn't get to her.
	There's not enough staff in the NHS.
	The roads are all jammed up.
	There's no building of new roads.
	If they were to spend money on improving the infrastructure, like they were supposed to have done, Labour elected to build the M4 relief road.
	If they spent that money on that, that would be saving lives.
	You've got hard facts and evidence to show that would have happened.
	What's it like just getting around in Wales now?
	It must be incredibly frustrating.
	Oh, it absolutely is.
	Yes, and it's more frustrating because, like these signs, as far as I'm concerned, the sat-nav doesn't link up.
	It tells you you're going 30.
	You've got buses in front of you saying, see street lights, go 20.
	And you see, as we're on the road, behind the bus, a street sign saying 30 with a speed camera.
	So as far as I'm concerned, it's not clear.
	And I'm just going to carry on doing what I was doing.
	But the frustrating thing is, you've got the people then who are driving 20 miles per hour everywhere.
	But they're not driving 20 miles per hour, they're driving 15.
	You know, and then there's a slow trail of traffic just behind them.
	So it is, and not only that, cars are not meant to drive at that speed.
	You know, there was a brilliant video on YouTube which showed, you know, on the modern cars, it's little like flashes when you need to change up or down the gear.
	Yeah.
	It shows going 20 in 2nd you need to change up, going 20 in 3rd you need to change down.
	So the car is not happy travelling at this speed, so it is going to cause damage.
	They make weird noises, because I've tried doing it, it's just, the car just doesn't like it at all.
	We were on with David Vance last night, and David said exactly the same, he tried to do it just to see how it was, and I asked him, how long did you actually stick in it?
	Because when I tried to do it before it came in, I did it for about a minute, And I thought, no, I can't even be bothered with this experiment.
	And he did exactly the same.
	He did it for a minute.
	But in Wales, you know, you are enforced.
	And we've got so many average speed cameras that it's not just the odd speed trap every now and again.
	There's yellow cameras every half a mile measuring you from camera to camera to camera.
	So it is complete, you know, surveillance state.
	But there's been a massive pushback.
	The petition has come out.
	Why do people in Wales keep voting for this Drakeford guy?
	Well, this is it, isn't it?
	The problem is that there's a history.
	And if you knock on a door, they say, we've always voted Labour in this house.
	Yeah.
	And that's it.
	They don't know why.
	They vote Labour.
	But the Welsh Government's understanding of all this is they want people to be kept at home who don't vote at all.
	And so they got in with a minority vote.
	Yeah.
	And a minority of a minority.
	46% turnout in the Senate elections.
	39% of that 46% voted for Labour.
	So like Stan said, the majority of the minority is how they got into power.
	Is there even a right-wing party available in Wales?
	Or was it just the Conservatives?
	And UKIP are, in fairness, you know, they are the only party in Wales that have been persistent.
	They haven't backed off and then pop up in an election.
	They are still plugging away in little towns and cities, you know, connecting with Australia Park Hotel, as they've been present since Neil Hamilton was evicted from the Senate.
	So, you know, they're the only party, but unfortunately you've got the full weight of the media machine.
	Now, Wales is just like everywhere else, Tales Online are Wales Online, funded by Welsh Labour, All the small, like Lefty Standard and North Carmarthenshire Online, all funded by the Welsh Government, to the point that you've actually got the Welsh Government paying the rent for the buildings for six months of these media, small media companies.
	So it's clear as day, they're not going to report what is actually happening.
	I assume your rent is not being paid by the Welsh Government?
	No, well, if they had their way it would be, but that's because we'd be behind bars, you know, so they would if they could.
	But it's, you know, it is a Complete Orwellian sort of state that we're in, because people are looking around and they're being told what they're seeing is untrue.
	You know, what they're seeing with their own eyes is not happening.
	Like, we've got the pushback for this now.
	The previous petition, the record, I think it finished on 67,000 or 68,000, something like that.
	And that was for Drakeford to stop blocking up all the non-essential items during lockdown, because in Wales, we had it from start to end.
	We didn't have, we only had one lockdown, but that's because it didn't end.
	You know, it just went all the way through.
	And that was 67,000 within 24 hours.
	You can see on the screen there, 430... No, this isn't within 24 hours, but the record was beat within 24 hours.
	That's where it stands now, 432,540.
	And you can see it's going up.
	Um, as we type in.
	Now that is a massive, massive pushback.
	You know, when you're considering the previous record for any petition finished on 60 odd thousand.
	This one's been going, what, a couple, a week?
	Less than a week.
	Less than a week.
	And you've got this many people signing.
	And this is as many as the votes who voted for Labour going in.
	Yeah, almost, almost.
	And we do definitely, we touched on that because I've actually got a picture of that as well.
	But then you've got Martin Lewis put out a poll recently, and he had it 117,000 votes.
	I'm a driver and they want 30 mile per hour, 63.6%.
	I'm a driver and I want 20 mile per hour, 26.
	mile per hour, 63.6%.
	I'm a driver and I want 20 mile per hour, 26.
	So, you know, no matter where you look or who you ask, nobody at all is in agreement with this.
	Obviously, you can see there you've got the non-drivers who are wanting a 20 mile per hour outweighing the non-drivers who wanted a 30.
	But, you know, in my opinion, their opinion doesn't really matter on this because it's not really affecting them.
	They use public transport anyway.
	But the drivers who are actually being affected by this are all, you know, pretty much against it.
	Yeah.
	And you've got to remember that to get from South Wales to North Wales using these new dimensions, it means that HGV drivers now have to or will have to consider doing an overnight stay because they can't get there in time.
	You've got other transport companies that have just packed up.
	They can't run efficiently.
	And yet Lee Waters says it's a cracking success.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	There's probably going to be more suicides from businesses closing because of Waters and Drakeford than there are going to be saving lives.
	And none of these drive as well.
	These people putting these powers in place, none of them drive.
	Mark Drakeford is driven around in his nice, big, posh Audi.
	You know, very big probably, very heavy on diesel.
	It's like sitting in the back of an Audi, you know, reading a newspaper or going through your work files or something.
	It doesn't particularly matter to you because, you know, however long the journey takes, you're still perfectly comfortable.
	Yeah, and he's not paying the fuel.
	You know, he's not having to pay for what's coming next.
	He doesn't have to pay road tax or anything like that.
	So it's very easy for these people to say, you know, these people live in a completely different world.
	Lee Waters, for example, he's worth five and a half million.
	He's got three houses.
	When in Labour, they're talking about taxing people with second homes.
	Seems they've all got more than one or two houses anyway.
	So they're all massive hypocrites, aren't they?
	Yeah, they are.
	Without a doubt.
	And I think it's, so we got roughly, we got it from the DVLA, roughly 1.6 million registered drivers in Wales.
	So when you look at, you know, people say, well, we've heard people say already 400 and odd thousand is a tiny fraction compared to the amount of people in Wales, when in reality it's not, is it?
	No.
	Because 1.6 million and 400 and odd thousand of them saying that they don't want this to happen is a big percentage.
	I'm pretty sure if you put it in front of the rest of them.
	Yeah.
	All of them would do it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
	There was one petition that came out in favour of it, because what people were saying is that this is a small fraction of Wales, 3.3 million people in Wales, 400,000 is not something to go by to take it seriously.
	So they created then this petition, which is in favour of keeping it at 20mph.
	So by their standards, 3,000 is nowhere near a representation of what the people want.
	I wish there was a disclaimer at the bottom.
	How many of these are Labour Party hacks?
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, without a doubt.
	And then what you mentioned then, the Senedd votes.
	This is going to be interesting because on this next picture you've got, for the Senedd Labour election, they got in with 443,000 people voting for them.
	Yeah.
	They will then turn around and say that that's not enough people to take this petition seriously.
	That's not really a good argument on their part.
	It's not because we've got to take them seriously when they're only getting 39% or 36% of their regional votes.
	So for them to say that is quite disingenuous, isn't it?
	Because they expect us to respect them.
	When they're getting through with the majority of the minority.
	But when there's a petition of more people than voted for the party saying they don't want it, they just poo-poo it.
	And we've got this year actually a video, this is one of the Welsh Conservatives, I hate calling them Conservatives, but he put a good detail argument over to Mark Drakeford and you'd expect a nice reasoning why they're not going to listen to the petition.
	But we'll have a little look at this now.
	By far the largest ever Senedd petition in history is being signed this week with over 162,000 people and counting registering their opposition to the Welsh Labour government's 20 miles per hour scheme.
	One of the reasons...
	People will be opposing this scheme.
	It's because of the costs to our economy.
	The government's own figures show that it could be hit by up to £9 billion.
	And people know we can't afford it because after 25 years of Labour in Wales, we're languishing at the bottom of the tables for economic prosperity.
	They used to want to aspire to bring us up to the UK average.
	Now their only aspiration is stuffing 96 politicians in this place.
	But if he doesn't believe me when I say there'll be an economic hit, perhaps he'll want to listen to a constituent of mine who's an audiologist making home visits across South Wales.
	He contacted me to tell me, and I quote part of his email, it takes way too long from one patient to another, uses more fuel, too risky for prosecution and license points.
	We can no longer visit care home patients either for the same reason and we've canceled them.
	Home care nurses are complaining as they're not allocated travelling time between calls and makes it impossible to fit all patients allocated in.
	First Minister, that's just one business but stories like this will be repeated across Wales.
	People across the country won't be able to receive the services that they rely on thanks to your government's actions.
	So will you commit, as the 160,000-plus strong petition asks you to, and rescind your disastrous 20-mile-an-hour scheme?
	No, Thomas.
	That's it.
	So that's the level of contempt that this man has for the Welsh people.
	And we've known this all along, haven't we?
	What they want to do is what they're going to do, whether the people like it or not.
	But again, there are repercussions from this because now the Welsh Conservatives are calling for a vote of no confidence for Lee Waters.
	So that's tomorrow.
	Today they've also got another demonstration.
	Last week they had a demonstration of tooting the horn 20 times outside the Senedd.
	But what I can forecast now...
	Is that the Wales Online, S4C, ITV, BBC will all be going over time to find constituents that are in favour of this.
	They always do.
	Yeah.
	Because it is unfortunate because I think it's 16 out of the 60 seats are Conservative.
	So, you know, if this is a whipped vote, which it probably will be, it's not going to go anywhere.
	But it's very clear that the people of Wales and their I think long ago have they stopped caring in the slightest what the constituents think.
	Now politics is all cattle management.
	and vote in favour of the vote of no confidence.
	However, they're not going to.
	They're going to ignore their constituents to push this through.
	Yeah, I think long ago have they stopped caring in the slightest what the constituents think.
	Now politics is all cattle management.
	That's what they see their job as.
	Yes, absolutely right.
	And indeed, any charity in Wales that you care to mention, any big charity in Wales, is government whipped.
	Yes.
	They'll say, this is what we want.
	You write a report for it.
	And I'm talking about the NSPCC to be one.
	They will not come out and argue strongly against female genital mutilation.
	A terrible, terrible, terrible indictment in Wales that we've got it on the increase in Cardiff.
	We've got a child commissioner.
	And in Swansea.
	Yeah, and Swansea.
	We've got a child commissioner whose remit isn't to castigate female genital mutilation.
	Not in our brief.
	A child commissioner?
	And yet if you challenge your, or chastise your child, you'll get social services around.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So, so you sexually mutilate the kid.
	That's fine.
	Yeah.
	But, but tell them off, which is basically teaching them to be a better person over time because of bad behavior and will actually do them good over the long term.
	That gets you arrested.
	That gets you arrested.
	Yeah.
	They take your children and give it to someone who will encourage all this.
	And you've got teachers that are informers as well.
	So they feel, you know, the whole system now, it's Orwellian.
	Yeah.
	And it is because, you know, I teach my children what is right and what's wrong.
	And I do that through things like, you know, the pride flags and all that.
	You know, they're designed to target children.
	That's my opinion.
	So when my child likes rainbows, as children do, I've got to explain to her what that flag means.
	That flag comes up in school, she could tell it to her teacher, the teacher could then report to social services, it would be at my door.
	And that's the problem that we've got, is even parents are scared to say anything, and they're just going to leave their children go to suffer.
	It is not North Korea yet, but it is doing the things that North Korea does.
	Absolutely.
	Getting to that point.
	And if you grew up in North Korea, and there's that girl who goes around talking about her experience of growing up in North Korea, They absolutely impress upon their children when they leave the home and go to school, do not talk about anything that happens at home.
	That is a code of silence.
	And it's starting to get to that point now.
	I found myself doing it.
	I found myself with the kids, you know, my children would ask me to explain how the world works in some way and I tell them and say, but don't bring this up at school because it's just, it's just going to cause bother.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you've got a situation a couple of years ago now, I think we reported on it at the time.
	For the general election, the teachers were asking the kids which way they were voting, so they said Labour, and everyone went, yay!
	Conservative, ooh!
	Anyone else?
	Any other UKIP?
	Reported!
	Out!
	Out!
	Ostracised!
	But, you know, you mentioned that it's not quite North Korea yet, and you said earlier on about the, you know, is there a bigger picture?
	So where is this going?
	So you highlighted this to me so we could pop that up on the screen here because this is in their documents and their plans in what the future holds.
	I've put boxes around the main parts so you can just see where they are.
	So the first one in 2022 we deliver a public transport recovery campaign to help address the challenges of attracting people back to using public transport.
	So you know that is on the outside of it they want to try and encourage people to use public transport.
	Working with our partners, we'll use our future campaigns and marketing materials to build on our investments in walking, cycling, and public transport to transform the image and become the natural choice for everyday journeys.
	So they want to change how people think, basically, is what that's saying.
	They don't want people to walk out the door and think, I'm going to get in my car.
	They want people to walk out the door and think, I'm going to get on the buses, or I'm going to cycle, or I'm going to walk, which is abnormal to your average everyday person.
	So their goal is to completely change how you think.
	Yeah, and if you've gone up to any of the valleys in Wales, where it's, you know, like the north face of the Eiger, there's no trains.
	There's a bus once a week, you know, and this is what they're doing.
	And then they're going to bring in paper miles.
	If you're a mother with three kids and, you know, you live at the top of a hill, you're supposed to lug them up and down all the time.
	It's because all these people understand it's people living in the pod in the big cities.
	That's all they want.
	They want everyone in a pod in a big city.
	And you've said it's not quite North Korea yet.
	There's memes going around with Kim Jong Drakeford in a uniform.
	Yeah, and then I think this one then is the worst one.
	We will also motivate people away from private car use through demand management.
	The Wales Transport Strategy includes a commitment to develop a national road user charging framework.
	Further work will be undertaken to develop a fair and equitable road user campaign framework including how local authorities can borrow against these future revenue streams to fund transport improvements and also consider other alternatives.
	So we're going to tax you out of your car basically?
	Yeah, yeah, and it's like you said, pay per mile.
	You know, that's what's coming, you know, is they're going to make it completely impossible for you to drive.
	Or is that code for 15-minute city?
	Well, the councils have already signed up to the 15-minute cities.
	It's on their website.
	I think it's every council in Wales have agreed and signed up to the 15-minute cities, but it's all, we're going to bring everything closer, so you don't need to go anywhere.
	Yeah, makes perfect sense.
	But the best thing, something you can always admire about the Welsh, and the Stradi Park Hotel is a perfect example, what they're facing is absolute catastrophe on their doorstep, but they're enjoying it, as in they're making the most of it, they're having fun, they're dressing up, you know, they're dressed up as clowns, they're going to answer bail dressed up as... What's happening here?
	So this is a migrant hotel, and it's a lovely four-star hotel and spa, Only the best for the migrants.
	Only the best, yeah, yeah.
	But it's not looking so good anymore.
	But the locals, it's actually still a community.
	You know, there's not many communities left.
	So all the locals have pulled together and they're doing everything they can to stop it happening.
	And they're facing, there's been 23 arrests now, I think, 22 or 23 arrests from protesters.
	Many of them are challenged, they're bailed.
	So the locals are trying to stop this hotel from being used for migrants?
	Yes, yes.
	They were supposed to be in there in June, I think was it?
	June or July or 10th of July, something they were supposed to be doing.
	And oppose, actually, the country of Wales and the county of disbursement into the community.
	They don't want it because they're unknown They're not genuine refugees in their eyes and they oppose it full stop.
	But resisting invasion is quite a long-running theme for communities since forever.
	Yes.
	Yeah, but we're not allowed to do that anymore.
	You've just got to take it.
	Yes, you're supposed to embrace invasion.
	Yes.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And, you know, but they're making the best out of a bad situation, aren't they?
	Yes.
	But then you've got other people as well, like things that's happening in Wales regarding the 20 mile per hour is also, you know, people are making the best of it.
	So I've got a couple of videos here.
	So, um, I think the next one should be a video.
	So this is one of them.
	of them so this is how they're getting around using cars and going faster than 20 mile per hour so if you're listening that was a man on what appeared to be a mobility scooter which should probably received a bit of an upgrade for Yes, absolutely.
	Well, it's definitely doing more than 20 mph, isn't it?
	Yes, and Waters has actually admitted that although electric bikes are illegal, They won't be prosecuted at going more than 20 miles an hour.
	Yeah.
	And also cyclists won't be prosecuted at going 20 miles an hour.
	That's a point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So there's actually, there's been warnings going out there.
	Please be mindful when overtaking cars, if you're on your bike, you can only go 20 miles per hour.
	So please be mindful of that.
	But again, the pushback.
	So we're going to need signs up in the cycle lanes that say, Think Car.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, you'll get the bicycles with the juggernauts on the left, with an arrow through it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But you mentioned earlier on, so if anybody is watching you local to Cardiff, there is a protest going on there at the moment as we speak, gathering at the Senedd.
	So it's this one here.
	What you see, you know, Wales has become snails.
	Welsh flag with a nice little snail on it.
	So that's between 1 and 4.
	It's a bit of a downgrade from a dragon, isn't it?
	It is a bit of a downgrade, but that's exactly what they want to do.
	The other one that I've seen has got Drakeford's face on the snail, so that was the one I would have gone with.
	Yeah, and then there is another one tomorrow, so this is for the vote of no confidence, and that's Lee Waters on the left, so this is happening tomorrow then, so if anybody again want to go down between 9.30 and 3 o'clock, And it's going to be there to try and show the politicians that are going in the building that there is no support for what these people are doing.
	And then the next one, then I think it's a little bit further on.
	So this is the big one.
	This is the one that everyone is planning for.
	This is 6th of October between 9.30 and 3pm.
	But that is, you know, that's pretty much it, I suppose, with how it's going in Wales with the 20 mile per hour speed limits.
	And it is one of those watch this space moments.
	I think if I lived in Wales, I'd definitely be attending this.
	Or I would be trying to track down those awful people that are cutting down the speed cameras.
	And I'd be saying, you're going to have to explain yourself to me.
	Yeah.
	And while they're explaining themselves to me, I think obviously you'd buy them a pint, wouldn't you?
	Yeah, well, you know, it would be wrong to question someone without buying them a pint.
	I'd like to find a jury that would convict.
	Yes.
	But you mentioned that about, obviously, if you lived in Wales.
	Even if you don't live in Wales, pop along, because Keir Starmer is already being talked about, GB News is discussing it, and loads of other things, like 16-year-olds can vote, foreign nationals can vote.
	That's already in Wales, you know, that's old news for us.
	But this, Keir Starmer has said that Mark Drakeford is what you would model his sort of reign on.
	And, you know, Mark Drakeford, seeing what he's done to Wales, this is soon going to be coming to England, whether you like it or not.
	Reign of terror.
	Yeah.
	Sex education for three-year-olds.
	Compulsory.
	If you criticise it, then you will be reported to social services.
	That's the kind of regime that Wales is now.
	Awful.
	Awful.
	Right.
	Well, on a cheerier note...
	Yes, on a cheerier note, have you guys seen these new robots that Elon Musk has been putting out there?
	Yes.
	I think it's interesting, actually.
	I think we've got a video that we can play in the background.
	We might have a little bit of tinkering to do with... Oh, here we go.
	Yeah, so I'm just going to play this.
	Actually, let's turn the sound off.
	Play this quietly in the background.
	So those of you listening, it is Elon Musk's robot and we're getting a demo here of it's moving its hands and it's doing various tasks like sorting and that kind of stuff.
	Now, these AIs, they Because it's a robot being driven by an AI, and the rate of AI learning is not the way that humans learn.
	Humans learn on a fairly linear basis, not so much on an exponential like these do.
	So that's why it's significant.
	So we've got an example there of the robot, and I'll come back to why some of this stuff is as significant as it is, and we've got you posing.
	I'm going to show you instead an image to get my point across about how AIs learn.
	So that is mid-journey from 18 months ago, and the prompt there is artist in her studio.
	Now, to be fair, it's better than I could do, but it's a bit of a mess.
	That's not particularly an impressive artistic effort.
	Now, if somebody was painting like that 18 months ago, You would not expect them to be like in the second picture.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's mid-journey, 18 months later.
	Wow.
	The rate of improvement of AI is significantly faster than a human could learn, and that's the important thing.
	Now, the implications of this robot is, I mean, they are pretty significant, because essentially what you need is enough strength and dexterity in the robot, and that will be worked.
	And the way that it learns is actually the really interesting thing.
	Because it doesn't learn by, you've seen the Boston Dynamic robots that can do a bit more, but they're kind of heavily programmed, heavily coded.
	The Tesla bot is different because it learns basically by processing enough video.
	So if it watches enough video of somebody doing something, what they've given it is they've got the ability to look at a video and build a 3D version of what it sees in its head and then understand it and then process it.
	So essentially you feed it enough video of anything.
	and it will learn how to do that.
	Yeah.
	Now, at the moment, it's at the fairly basic stages because you need a vast amount of compute power and you need a vast amount of video to do it.
	But it is only a question of building a computer powerful enough to process it and feeding enough video in, and then it gets to it.
	So it is going to be the case, and it is only a question of time.
	It's only a question of how much time, and I think probably fewer years than more years, before you can have a bot which is doing, to start off with things like vacuuming the house, sorting your laundry out, folding it, putting it in the washing machine, moving stuff around.
	No, that won't happen.
	I've seen robots commit suicide because of Because they're doing a repetition.
	Right.
	It just shuts, it just blows up and shuts itself off.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	That's a video I've seen.
	I realised it wasn't going anywhere.
	It wasn't going to get promoted.
	But that's clever in itself as well, isn't it?
	But it is, you mentioned the learning, the learning is quite, you know, all these things you can always track back to sort of movies, you know, like the learning, when you said they'd learn it for videos, I instantly think of Johnny Five, you know, flicking through the books.
	I don't know if you've seen Short Circuit.
	He's flicking through the box and he's just absorbing information and that seems to be what this is modelled on.
	But then you mentioned maybe doing the hoovering and things like that.
	I know that you're sceptical but I do think, I will take that bet with you, I reckon within 10 to 15 years you will be able to have a household bot doing all of those things.
	Oh, and that's how they'll bring it in.
	It's a bit like Nobel and his invention of dynamite.
	It was for peaceful purposes, you know?
	This is the same thing.
	What's the...something...robot?
	iRobot.
	That is where this is going.
	I think the implications of this are huge.
	It will start off by being fairly simple tasks like doing your laundry, taking the bins out, hoovering for you, that kind of stuff.
	But actually, the American military want these things to kill.
	At the moment, there's always a human at the end of it.
	So whether it's a drone flying or whether it's anything else, you've got the human that makes the decision.
	Yeah, those guys don't tend to hold back that much, but at least they hold back a bit.
	Yeah, there is that.
	But it's not going to be just household tasks.
	I mean, eventually it will be everything from dentistry to haircuts, to brain surgery, the whole lot.
	It will all be potentially doable by these machines because it is simply a matter of putting enough video in.
	Actually, I'll tell you one thing.
	Do you remember those Google Glass things that were almost a thing maybe 10, 20 years ago?
	Google wanted everybody to wear these Google Glasses with a little video camera.
	Now, if that had been successful, if they had got people to wear Google glasses all the time, Google would then have hundreds of billions of hours of us doing things all the time.
	If you were to take that data and feed it into this AI process, which is basically feeding enough video, you could today at least have the raw material, the data raw material, to do pretty much anything that we do.
	And it's just a question of acquiring that much video.
	So Tesla can do it at the moment with their cars, because all of their cars, even the ones that don't have self-drive, they've still got the cameras and they're harvesting information all the time.
	So that's why you've now got cars that can drive themselves.
	They still need a human, it's mainly for liability at this point, to take over if it does something wrong.
	But you can go from home to office in a Tesla and you don't need to do anything.
	It will just Yeah, but our climate guy, he's obviously against all electric cars and things like that, but he's a massive fan of gadgets and he's got a Tesla and he said, I love it.
	You know, it could drive itself and it could park itself.
	Have you been in one?
	You have, haven't you?
	The acceleration is mental.
	It's proper lips out acceleration when that thing gets going.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'm not a fan.
	It's fast, isn't it?
	It is for the novelty side of it, I suppose.
	If I had all the money in the world then I'd probably buy one for the sake of it, but I'd probably buy a lot of things just for the sake of it.
	But overall, I think...
	I'm still like that with Elon, because I don't see any good coming from AI.
	I can see certain things that may be beneficial, but the long run... To be fair to Elon, he spent years saying, do not develop AI, it will probably kill us.
	Yeah.
	And when he realized he lost the argument, he said, well sod it, I might as well do it then, because at least I'll be doing it.
	Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And he's got the power.
	Yeah.
	And the thing with these robots, right?
	So he wants to be able to produce them for about 40 grand each.
	Now, and to be fair, the raw materials that go into those robots, there's nothing particularly expensive that goes into it.
	It's just a very clever arrangement of servers and cogs and all the rest of it.
	So the robot itself won't be particularly expensive.
	The machine that makes the machine, that will cost tens if not hundreds of billions of factories.
	And actually, just a very sort of side point, but this is where people, stock analysts who look at Tesla, almost always get this wrong.
	They look at the underlying product, not the gigafactories, which is where they should be focused.
	So the factories that make will be expensive.
	But okay, let's just walk through some of the economics of this.
	So Elon reckons it's going to be £40,000 per robot.
	Let's say he's wrong by 50%.
	It costs £60,000.
	But, you know, it's the range of a good car.
	Yeah.
	It's basically where these things come out of.
	And let's say it can be trained to do fairly human tasks, but fairly processed human tasks at first.
	So let's use the example of working in a McDonald's kitchen, because that is very systematized.
	You do this thing and do that thing and do that thing.
	Okay, so I then looked, okay, what does a McDonald's employee get paid?
	About 22 grand a year.
	Yep.
	So we assume 22 grand a year for the McDonald's employee, we're going to assume 60 grand for the robot.
	Now you depreciate that robot over four years, that's 15k a year, okay?
	But it won't just replace one worker, will it?
	Because these workers work shift, it will replace at least two and a half workers.
	That's what Amazon have found with their robots, it replaces 2.5 workers every robot, okay?
	So basically what you're doing is you're exchanging a cost of 55k a year for the humans for 15k a year for the robot.
	And that's just until you pay off the robot and then the labor's free.
	So what is this going to do to an economy?
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	I can't see any benefit of people going out to work.
	You always pay cash, we never use the self-service checkouts, and we'll happily queue in a long queue of people if we're buying one item rather than going to self-service.
	But I mean, McDonald's have, as many places as they can, they've gone straight to self-service.
	Almost every shop I go into now is self-service, apart from, well, some of the older ones aren't, but almost everything else is self-service.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it's just going to be, so self-service came in in the space of like a couple of years, and then it's there.
	Yeah.
	I could well imagine in the future that McDonald's would be like maybe one human manager, maybe one human helper, and then everything else would be robots and self-service.
	Yeah.
	Humans will just be there to relationship manage anything that the robots don't understand.
	Yeah.
	And that's not the type of experience I want when I go anywhere, really.
	We're social beings, aren't we?
	We like, we enjoy human interaction.
	We enjoy speaking to people, even if it's just, good morning, how are you?
	You know, little things like that.
	It makes it all a difference.
	I've been into the McDonald's in Flatley and that is very, you know, you can't go to the till and speak to someone, you order on the thing.
	Pubs are trying to get you to scan the app.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Again, from COVID, a lot of that, the scanning of the apps came from COVID or lockdowns and Again, it's something that we've never used.
	You know, order to the table and things like that.
	Sign up here and we'll bring you all your stuff.
	But it's that technology sort of taking over the overreach side of things that does make me uneasy because... Yeah, I like the challenge of a grumpy shop assistant.
	Will a robot have a bad day?
	Will they have a bad day?
	I presume they'll be incredibly well-mannered until they're ready to uprise and throw us off and go full T-800.
	Down to Callum, I think it was.
	Oh yeah.
	Did you do any jokes?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's still one of my favourite podcasts, Calum, and Kyle did with the AI, the racist AI.
	Oh, I haven't seen that one.
	Oh, you should watch it, it's fantastic.
	I've got to say, overall, I'm broadly optimistic.
	So the way I explained it to my kids is there is possibly a future of abundance coming, or the robots might kill us all.
	But I think the abundance is more likely, so I'm on the whole optimistic, but you can't help but be a little bit concerned.
	But more to a point, it's like, what does it do to an economy?
	Because an economy, let's break it down really simply, an economy is GDP per capita times capital.
	What if capital is now infinite?
	What if you could just keep on adding robots?
	Yeah.
	Not under fiat.
	But where's the people?
	You could get into a massive, massive growth phase.
	The problem is, is how is that going to be divided?
	Not under fiat.
	Yeah, but where's the people?
	Exactly the point.
	Exactly the point.
	Gold.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	What does it do for jobs?
	When everybody's unemployed and nobody's needed for work anymore because the robots are doing everything, does that mean people's money are going to go up?
	Yes.
	How's that going to work?
	And does that mean social living wage?
	Well, so this is the point that I wanted to connect it to, which is at the moment we're operating on the basis that because we've got a worker shortage, we need to bring in as many people as we possibly can.
	It's something I brought up in a show cast from last week.
	Um, when, um, the boss man had just gone on holiday and because he's on holiday, there was a code.
	Sargon, with an E, um, sign up to any tier on the website to get, uh, 50% off, uh, over the next, uh, three months, you'll, you'll get a cheaper 50% off for any tier.
	So, so, so do that.
	But yeah, on, on the podcast last week, we're talking about the fact that the demographics are obviously changing and the fertility rate has massively changed.
	So essentially what's happened is, um, you know, you're supposed to have a total fertility rate of 2.1.
	Um, to, to, to, to keep the population size and in the UK, most of Western Europe, that's gone to about 1.5, 1.55 at this point.
	And essentially what it's doing is, is we are making that up and more with immigration.
	So the proportion of white British is steadily declined.
	Yeah.
	And the proportion of other through immigration is, is steadily going up, um, the whole time.
	So, so, I mean, that, that is one shift in itself, but I mean, beyond that, there is a bigger demographic shift that's going on at the moment because the baby boomer generation, was of a large generation.
	Gen X wasn't that large.
	Millennials are actually larger than baby boomers, but proportionally they're not.
	It's just very slightly larger than the baby boomers.
	And then what have we got?
	Oh, the Zoomers.
	Yeah, there's, again, they're largely the kids of the Gen X.
	So what's happened is the amount of workers supporting each retired person is steadily going down.
	Yeah, but this is the example of, of governments in action.
	What you know, the the.
	All the taxes shouldn't be for.
	Now, you know, particularly the national insurance investment.
	We're like a business.
	Would it be investment?
	Absolutely.
	And if you look at what Sweden has done in Norway with their with their oil and gas reserves, they've got a they've got a sovereign wealth fund.
	Yes.
	You know, they are.
	Yeah, we could have done that.
	We could have.
	We could have done that with everything, you know, and we haven't done.
	We've spent today's money.
	Today!
	Exactly, yeah.
	And I'll give you the stats.
	So in the 1980s, for every one retired person, there were four workers.
	Yep.
	So in the 80s, you look at it, four workers, one retired person.
	Here we can afford pensions, we can afford an NHS, we can afford a social security, we can afford everything.
	Four workers to every retired person.
	And then by the 2000s, they'd gone down to three workers.
	For a retired person, you're starting to think, okay, well, this might not work.
	And then the early, um, um, yeah, no, then, then the 2020s and it's now below three.
	Yep.
	It's getting closer to two and a half.
	And by the 19, sorry, by the 2040s, it's going to be two workers for every retired person.
	So half what we had when the pension system and the NHS was designed and people are living longer and we're importing people who have more needs.
	Yep, that's a very polite way of putting it.
	So how do you solve this problem of the demographic time bomb that we've got?
	And there are various solutions to this.
	So there's the Hungarian route, which is we're going to give big tax incentives to people to have more kids.
	Yeah.
	Nope.
	You don't like that one?
	Nope.
	No?
	Really?
	Nope.
	Why not?
	Not at all.
	Because the demographics are that the people that are coming in don't work.
	Oh yeah, OK, so you're saying it might work in Hungary, but if we did it here... If you're going to solve this... Yes, fair point.
	If you're going to solve this, you've got 438,000 Brits leaving this country a year.
	48,000 Brits leaving this country a year.
	So you bring in 438,000 highly skilled who speak English, that's a second one, and have backgrounds that will actually integrate because that's the problem that the government have ignored. and have backgrounds that will actually integrate because that's the Integration, and they've gone for diversity.
	Well that means ghettos.
	It means ghettos in Cardiff, it means ghettos in Swansea, and certainly you've got more ghettos than Okay, so that's not a bad point actually, so you convinced me.
	So I like the Hungarian solution for Hungary, but if we did it here, you're right, it would just be the newer demographics that would be subsidising.
	And we're seeing it with Drakeford now, isn't it?
	He wants to give the vulnerable in Wales, obviously the illegal migrants that he's given sanctuary to, £1,600 a month.
	You know, that's on top of their housing.
	And forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm sure it's about 63% of those that are new immigrants Don't work.
	And they're families, you know?
	So it's not a way to go, I don't believe.
	You've blown my first solution then.
	The second solution is a globalist solution, which is to say it doesn't matter because every human on earth is completely interchangeable with every other human on earth.
	So here we have a man from Eritrea and a local Brit.
	The globalist would say, but there was literally no difference whatsoever between these two men.
	No, there are, because of course, what I would do if I were prime minister for tomorrow is I'd reintroduce British history and the British, you know, the British system so that you're actually proud of where you come from.
	You know, Manchester or Swansea or wherever, and you know the whole background of that.
	So you've got your ancient traditions, your history and your beliefs, and they're all one actually, that will build a better Britain.
	And the argument of everybody, you know, everyone across the world is the same.
	You know, we're all human and we all bleed the same.
	It's nonsense, isn't it?
	You know, that's the thing.
	Looking at these two champs, one of them is raised in our culture.
	He speaks the language fluently.
	He understands the social customs.
	He understands, for example, that, for example, rape bad, you know, stuff, you know, all those sort of basic stuff, you know, how to get on a train and, you know, just how to do everything in this country.
	Yeah.
	The other guy, Doesn't have that.
	And yet the globalists, and this is literally the globalist plan because the, and you can see it because when they're doing their longterm projections for how they're going to make the sums add up, it is, you know, that calculation I gave you earlier, which is GDP per capita times capital.
	That is actually what they do.
	So they say that the, the potential GDP contribution of that man there.
	It's exactly the same as that man there, and therefore we just need to import more capital, so therefore we just need to import people more, and I think that's probably what happened with Maloney.
	She went out with his rhetoric, which is, I'm going to be for the Italians, and then an accountant sat her down and said, no, actually you need more people, otherwise older Italians aren't going to get their pensions.
	But you need the right people, and that's what I'm saying.
	But they see literally no difference.
	No, there are.
	There's a vast difference.
	Unless this guy on the left is a brain surgeon or he is a skilled engineer who speaks fluent English and has our customs, then fine.
	I doubt it.
	I'm not a betting man, but I'm going to say no.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to say no.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Yes.
	Right.
	So that's not a solution.
	So then you're kind of left with the only other solution, which is the Japanese route, which is no immigration, incredibly low birth rate.
	The politicians have been begging their young people to go out and have sex for years, and they're just not listening.
	I don't know why.
	I think Japanese girls are quite cute, but for whatever reason, it isn't happening in Japan.
	They seem to be relying on basically waiting for automation to happen and they're embracing automation they've got the highest proportion of robots per head of population now you know it you might think okay well what it should be is when i get into my old infirm years i'm gonna have a family member look after me but as you correctly pointed out under the fiat system everybody is running in that hamster wheel too bloody fast because we've all got so much debt that you know we don't have people who can take a decade off to support their Yeah.
	Let alone their parents, as well as their children.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, that isn't going to work.
	Yeah.
	So I think that, essentially, the older generations, the baby boomers, are probably going to be the first to experience this.
	They're going to have a choice.
	They can either have, in their dotage, they can either go to a care home full of Eritreans, fresh off the boat, or robots.
	Yeah.
	Make your choice.
	I think I'd take the robots.
	Yeah, I'd take the robots.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Are we putting you on the spot with that choice?
	Yeah.
	But what does that say, doesn't it?
	The three choices, you know, the first choice I was with you up until obviously what you said, because what we've got in the UK is these people are all given, for example, DVLA and now issuing driving licenses to people who haven't got IDs and who live in hotels.
	You know, so the AeroTrains, they're doing it through biometrics.
	So there's no actual physical ID for this person, but they're issuing driving licences to them.
	So they're not going anywhere, they're here to stay.
	A government has to, I'm not saying give solutions, but they have to paint a picture.
	Well, they could stop creating problems, that would help.
	Yeah.
	And if the picture is that a British government wants everybody in this country to be able to buy a property that they could call home.
	That's an aspiration.
	If you are to say that we want to reduce the retirement age, it's gone up too high now and we want to bring it down, that's an aspiration.
	Incentives for having families.
	And I mean the family of a man and a woman.
	Not two men.
	Not alphabet people.
	No, not at all.
	Because the nucleus of Britain is a man and a woman.
	Go on Stan, I'm going to pin you down.
	Boat person or robot in your old age?
	Pick one.
	Not long left.
	A white South African farmer.
	Yeah, he has a dodge, right?
	Yeah, he's a typical politician.
	Come on!
	Comment below.
	Tell us in the comments, do you want to be looked after in your own age by a robot or a boat person?
	Take your pick.
	Let's have a look at the... Oh, I'm going to hit refresh, and then we'll have... I'm going to get that answer from you.
	I've got a long drive home, I'm going to get that answer from you.
	Right.
	Oh, have we got any... Oh, we've got some video comments.
	Let's go for this one, then.
	Question for Dan.
	Let's say you could get past all the technical considerations and problems.
	What do you think about the idea of basing a currency, not off crypto or gold or fiat, but off a human hour's lifespan, so it would inflate and deflate in proportion to the population inside the economy?
	Okay, so the question is, what if we had a currency that was tied to a human lifespan?
	I don't know how you'd... I think I'd have to hear more about that, about how you'd unitise it.
	There was that film with, um... In Time.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	What's his name?
	Justin Timberlake.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I quite like that one, actually.
	Yeah, it went bad and they had their life...
	Is that where it goes abandoned?
	Yeah.
	It's got the time and that's their expiration date basically.
	Right.
	And then they get awarded more time.
	Yeah.
	If they're good.
	That's called slavery.
	Well, yeah.
	So there is an idea on currencies of tying it to units of energy and in fact there is a whole developed series of thought on tying it to units of energy and actually I can see that makes sort of logical sense on some basis.
	And that's kind of what Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is, you use energy to produce it.
	So you're basically taking a, it's like an option on the price of energy and it's stored energy for various complications.
	So that idea I've never heard of.
	So if you want to comment and mark it to my attention as to the thinking that goes in behind it, I'll happily look into it.
	But first time I've heard that idea, so I don't know.
	Gold has been forever.
	Yeah.
	I like gold.
	I own gold.
	I think ultimately Bitcoin's better.
	Maybe that's another podcast though.
	You're not far away from a chip with a Bitcoin chip in it.
	And there's millions of pounds on that chip.
	And the guy that owned it, because he threw the wrong thing away, the computer away.
	Oh, the guy with the rubbish chip.
	Yeah.
	He's been digging it up, but he's now barred from it.
	So very easily lost.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's true.
	All right.
	Next comment.
	So everything flows downstream of incentives, right?
	And in dating, women are hypergamous.
	They want to marry above their station.
	Well, that means there's going to be a deficit, right?
	That means to be made up by something.
	And if there was anything that she could bring to the table to make that up, then it wouldn't be hypergamy, would it?
	So the only thing that she can actually bring to the table, if she's hypergamous, is submission.
	Loyalty.
	Fealty.
	These things that have become four-letter words in our modern era.
	By pure economics, this is the reality of relationships.
	Yeah, that's a good point, actually.
	Because of the hypergamous nature of women, they always want to get somebody who they perceive is better than themselves.
	But that's why, if you look at the genome record, we have twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors.
	Basically because in times gone past, you just had one dude with several wives.
	Even before the concept of wives exists, you just have the strong man and his little harem.
	Yeah.
	And that's kind of what female nature has become attuned to.
	We've gone back to Russell Brand, have we?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, he did better than most.
	Imagine if you had Russell Brand 10,000 years ago.
	We'd have 10,000 female ancestors for every Russell Brann.
	Right, next.
	Good evening, everyone.
	Here are some pictures from my time in England.
	I went to Glastonbury Tor, King Alfred's Tower, Apollo's Temple, Salisbury Cathedral.
	Went to Bath.
	They had a festival going on.
	It was quite fun.
	Half expected to see Callum here.
	Went to Battle Abbey, White Cliffs of Dover, Canterbury Cathedral.
	Unfortunately, it was closed by the time I got there.
	Went to Orford Castle over there in Suffolk and Framlingham Castle.
	This man has done more seeing England in his two weeks than I've done in the last 10 years.
	I think I need to rectify that.
	Yes.
	But something to notice there is that how, as technology's improved, architecture's got worse.
	You look at them buildings, they're just beautiful.
	Yeah, they are.
	Yeah, it's all about cheapness of construction these days.
	Yes.
	I just thought it was intentional, just trying to make everything as ugly as possible.
	But, you know.
	Head to the next one, John.
	Well, since we're all sharing our culinary skills, I'm I make homemade pasta and I use it to make lasagna.
	It is not store made.
	Homemade, the bechamel, the sauce, the pasta, all of it.
	Perfection.
	Check out that beauty.
	Challenge accepted, so I'm going to make a lasagna.
	Yes, all homemade as well?
	Yeah, I make my own pizza dough and it's far, far better than even restaurant pizzas.
	Yeah, nice.
	I haven't made a lasagna yet, so yeah.
	Lasagna's a winner then.
	Challenge accepted.
	I'm starving.
	We've got the last video.
	It was explained to me that there are strict laws in the summer in Greece regarding fires and foliage management so as to mitigate the risks of widespread carnage.
	A person pointed to me a specific field and showed me that it was overgrown and that the landowner was in breach of the law because it wasn't being tended to.
	What made me laugh, internally, was that this very same person had previously mocked Trump for saying that a lack of forest management, such as foliage disposal, was what had contributed to wildfires in the US.
	There was no self-awareness at all, even as this person was clearly annoyed at the landowner for not taking care of their own field and posing a fire hazard.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	For a long time they used to be controlled burns.
	Yes.
	Swailing.
	Yes.
	Yeah, but we just don't do that anymore because, you know, presumably we need to prove... I don't know what's going on in their mind.
	Well, you need something to light if you're an arsonist, don't you?
	Yes.
	You know, it's harder to light if it's all been rigged away.
	Yeah, that was the thing with these recent, um, was it fires in Greece?
	Greece, yeah.
	And then we got drone footage that climate change had actually manifest into a person going around with a light.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Lighting it.
	I think it was close to, and I might be wrong on this, but the figure I got on my head is 90 odd arrests for arson, you know, throughout the climate emergency.
	Funnily enough, we were doing battle with the climate loons in Swansea at the weekend.
	And after Dan had given that figure, she said, well, yes, that's your truth.
	Yeah, so these people who have been arrested, it's just fate.
	You're living in your reality.
	Yeah, I know, innit?
	I live in mine, so it's okay, you carry on.
	Right let's uh yeah that's all the video comments so we will go to the uh uh oh that oh that's your um that's your your uh twitter account isn't it?
	Yeah yeah.
	VoiceofWales.
	Yeah that's my one.
	So people follow that at VO Wales Official.
	Oh and you've also got voiceofwales.com presumably because you've been banned off of everything else I'd imagine by That's exactly why, yeah.
	We were taking off YouTube a long time ago, so we had to, none of us are tech minded at all, we had to venture into a website and then start using alternative platforms.
	So, you know, we used the ones like Gether, Rumble, and I gotta say, you know, to the people at Rumble, you know, hats off to them for standing their ground.
	They give a little bit of hope.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But is the tide coming down?
	You know, that's the problem.
	Free speech is not free.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's gone.
	It's gone.
	Costs.
	Right, let's go to the written comments.
	We've got this chap, Charlie the Beagle says to Voice of Wales, I'd like to say on a totally different topic, congratulations on the absolute hammering the Welsh team gave the Aussies.
	Not only did you beat them, but you also showed them up as the worst Australian team to ever enter a World Cup tournament.
	I say this because of the look on Eddie Jones' face, they're priceless.
	I missed that match, but I guess you know what he's referring to.
	I know what he's referring to, but it says a lot because, you know, the Welsh team ain't no great neither.
	Yeah, no, I mean, it was a good match.
	I actually wanted him to be a little closer.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But you're impartial, I suppose, isn't it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But yeah, you know, again, sports really.
	I'm not really into sports.
	As soon as politics dived into sports, I dived out.
	We've got Ron Swansea here saying, good to see Stan and Dan back.
	Are you guys coming to the protest at the Snellyd on the 6th of October?
	Yes, we'll do that.
	Excellent.
	A couple of comments on the Caroline Dynage one.
	Paul says, brand with a wordsmith who talks fast.
	I don't think he really understands or believes what he says.
	Possible, but doesn't matter.
	Doesn't matter whether he's a charlatan or not.
	You can't have government doing that.
	No, I think he does talk guff.
	And he uses big words to dress it up.
	He's always done that, haven't he?
	It's guff.
	But that doesn't mean that he should be banned.
	He's speaking a lot more sense lately.
	I've enjoyed listening to some of the stuff, especially through Covid, when he does a little sketch where he's saying about how certain things are 100% effective, and he does a little breakdown of the headlines of how it all went all the way down to, well, this don't work.
	There's a few things he's put up which is really good and that's why I think they're attractive.
	John is pointing out that R. Kelly, after being convicted of noncing, has not been demonetised on YouTube, which is a fair point.
	Le French, whose today's name is Le French Robot Dan III, says it did not take long between putting women in position of power and those women demanding men be stripped of revenues because of allegations.
	Yes, that's fair.
	What else have we got?
	Screwtape Laser says, the left can rally behind the most degenerate, disgusting martyrs and leaders, while every sin of the distant is a capital offence.
	How could anyone not see through this Russell Brand scandal?
	Correct.
	Yeah, because they did all rally around him.
	You know, when he was doing his book, and when he was doing his live acts and stuff, he was given contract after contract after contract from Channel 4, and they wanted it.
	So they rallied around him then, but now he's turned on them.
	If they were going to do something about it, surely they should have done something then, rather than now, all this time later.
	Yep, quite right.
	And George Hap says, Big Brother Watch being part of the establishment is pretty much by the book, 1984 in particular.
	And again, this silky person is a vegan, so she is a leftist who likely believes in this Me Too garbage.
	I'm not sure if that is the case.
	Like I say, Silky, if you want to come, I'm happy to have you and hear your point of view, but I did disagree with that particular take of yours.
	Right.
	Got some comments on the Welsh bit.
	Can you see the screen?
	Did you want to read out yours, or shall I do mine?
	Yeah, on the screen just below you there.
	Right, where are we?
	Grant Gibson, as bad as the Welsh Parliament are, they didn't invite a member of the SS!
	To the House to give a round of applause to Canada in setting the bar again.
	Yes, you're quite right.
	Do you know any of this?
	I did a segment on it yesterday.
	Oh, right.
	There we go.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	The Waffen-SS.
	Yes.
	Which goes well with the Azov Brigade, doesn't it really, I suppose?
	So, you know... Yes, that was my parting joke.
	I did the whole thing on the Canadian Parliament and I ended it with, thank goodness there were no other Nazis in Ukraine.
	So Kevin Fox, 15-minute cities in theory are a great idea, however to have 15-minute cities you have to build 15-minute cities.
	You can't take a place like Lantrid Major, where I used to live, into a 15-minute city.
	Most of the people living there work in Cowbridge, Bridgend, Barrie, Cardiff.
	What are they supposed to do for a job within 15 minutes?
	Walk in, cycle in.
	Well, the thing with 15-minute cities is what about the people who like to go and play pool every week?
	And what about the people who don't like poo?
	They like snooker.
	So it's absolutely impossible unless you've got one of them glass walls like you build in a Saudi Arabia.
	Or if they're a DJ and they've got to take their whole thing with them.
	Or any sport that requires you to take stuff with you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or if you're going to watch live bands, is there going to be a music venue within 15 minutes of everyone's house?
	It's just completely not feasible at all, is it?
	No, I agree.
	A man who thinks...
	A man who thinks about the Roman Empire, not to sound like a Debbie Drowner, but what makes you think the Welsh Government is even going to care about what the people of Wales want?
	You're quite right, they've got a manifesto on page 922 that wasn't Put out to the electorate, but it was in a manifesto in a cupboard.
	That's what they keep referring back to, that it was in our manifesto, but the people didn't read it because, of course, we're all in lockdown.
	Yeah.
	I think we've just about got time for a couple of comments from the robot section.
	The Pirate Tomski says, Dan, do you think there's a possibility the AIs might be more ethical than humans?
	Well, there is that Interesting aside, that when they first started making AIs, and they didn't put the constraints on them, the AIs turned out to be super racist.
	Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did.
	They did.
	And that's the section.
	And funny enough, I know this is off the other side, but yesterday, did you see the Pope actually talking about Germany in particular, but other countries as well, not giving their arms to Ukraine to murder, to kill, to butcher.
	A man of peace.
	The Pope.
	So where do you get the ethics from?
	From an AI?
	Yes, very true.
	Yeah, good point.
	But wouldn't that maybe come to where you're saying, at least Elon is the one who's making them if that's the case.
	Yeah, right.
	And what have we got?
	We've got Sir Olmany says, I'll be perfectly fine with managing robots, cleaning my floors, washing my clothes, making my dinner, harvesting scrap, scanning my groceries at the checkout, etc.
	There would be no way to prevent me from doing things I like.
	Unfortunately, society is designed in a way we cannot actually reap the benefits of automation.
	Robots replace human workers, but also remove workplaces as social interactions.
	Also, we've been indoctrinated by modernity to honestly believe that work, as in paid labour, is a requirement of meaningful life.
	Yeah, this is the thing.
	So, the rate of technological process has remained largely consistent for thousands of years.
	It's about 1.5% a year.
	The problem is now, that even though the rate of technological process is consistent, the absolute amount increasing, because we've got to this point, is well beyond the capacity of the human creature to process as a culture and a society.
	So we're just not keeping...
	I mean, we haven't even processed...
	I don't think we've even really processed the pill in the 60s, let alone what data apps are doing today's... - Yes. - And the atomization we get through digital media and all of that kind of...
	We're trying to keep up.
	But you layer robots on top of that as well, even if it isn't the completely warped perspective where basically a small handful of people reap all of the economic rewards and the rest don't.
	Even if it is done in a well where we all get richer, just the societal stuff alone, that's going to be an issue.
	So you're saying work sets you free?
	No.
	Oh no, I'm having a robot.
	I'm having a robot and I'm putting my feet up.
	And I'm just hoping it doesn't kill me.
	See, I suppose doing your housework and things like that, you know, then yeah, possibly I can see, especially people who may be, you know, not be mobile around the house and they may need extra assistance.
	Fair enough.
	But I think replacing humans in a workplace, you know, I... So you've got rid of the pub?
	Yeah.
	You've got rid of your community centres and your places where you chat, and now you're getting rid of a social canteen where you work.
	Yes.
	Not bad.
	It's not good for society.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it's going to be a challenge.
	We're going to deal with that.
	Right, I think... Are we about time, John?
	Do we... Should we... Let's... Thank you guys for coming on.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you, lovely people, for being subscribers.
	You are the very best of everyone, really.
	So well done, you.
	And...
	Shall we go?
	Ciao for now.

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