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June 27, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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	Hello, welcome to the podcast, The Lotus Eaters, for 27th of June, 2023.
	I'm joined by two people.
	Hello!
	There's two of them.
	So three of us.
	And just a quick thing, John, you need to turn your mic off.
	There's three of us.
	There's three of us.
	Anyway, any other references aside, I think, do I have some announcements to make first or not?
	Do I?
	Yes.
	What do I have?
	Oh, I have this to announce.
	Here we are.
	There's a Rumble live stream about James Lindsay and Christian nationalism.
	Part two.
	3.30 UK time.
	It's part two as well because it already happened.
	This is an ongoing conversation in the right at the moment.
	of how does James Lindsay fit into the conversation, basically.
	I'm personally not that interested in it, but... I don't even know who he is.
	Well, lots of people are, because James Lindsay is basically a sort of classical liberal struggling with the non-liberal right as to understanding their position in it.
	And I mean, that is an interesting discussion.
	It probably does have to be had, but I'm more worried about the eternal armies of the left that are constantly marching through our civilizations, ruining everything.
	So, that is an interesting conversation, it's just one that I'm less concerned with.
	Yeah, I personally agree.
	I'm never sat there being like, classical liberals at it again.
	It's never used to be in my mind, but you've got to check it out.
	I just don't see the point in spending effort fighting fellow rightists when there's, like you say, there's bigger problems.
	I don't think he's a rightist.
	Yeah, he's not really a rightist.
	That's the debate.
	Anyway, go and check out the debate if you have a dog.
	Otherwise, there's a new Broken Novix episode at 3pm, is that today?
	That's a good one.
	Check it out, 3 o'clock today.
	Who did it?
	Me!
	Oh, there we are.
	Me, and Peter St.
	Onge, that guy who's been popping up on Twitter quite a lot.
	So yeah, check that out, 3 o'clock today.
	Otherwise, we shall begin with the good news, such as I hate London.
	It's not so much news, is it?
	It's more of an opinion piece.
	No, if it was a new opinion, fine.
	Go back to the etymological origin of news.
	Not entirely wrong, but I'm here to tell everyone that London deserves its fate, is my point, rather than just my opinion on that.
	And I can prove it.
	That is an opinion, but I agree with it, so I'll let it go.
	I can prove that they deserve it as well.
	I just need you to prove it!
	So I lived there for 20 years and could see the way it was going and thought, yeah, it's time to get out.
	But if you've got the mathematical proof as to why it's falling apart, then yeah, let's see it.
	This is why I did my physics degree, to prove that London deserves to be put into the Hades of Mordor.
	There probably is a mathematical proof of this as well, actually.
	I can think of the terms, I just can't say them on this podcast.
	Anyway, we shall begin by just promoting something on notices.com, being the census data proves Britain is not a nation of immigrants.
	Yeah.
	Because, well, there we are, mathematical proof.
	All right.
	Yeah, that's all it is.
	You asked for it, there it is.
	I had an argument on Twitter that day with some guy who was like, look, Britain, London has always been 40% immigrant.
	And it's just like, what?
	I mean, literally, like, if you go back to 1961... What, if you include the Scots?
	No, no, just... no, not including the Scots.
	Non-British immigrants.
	And if you go back to, like, 1941, as I do in that article, you can see that there were only 1.5 million immigrants in all of the United Kingdom, and 500,000 of those were Irish.
	So London could not have been 40% if they were all congregated in London, it would still only be about 8% or 10% or something.
	So it's just like, anyway.
	Yes, fair point.
	Don't worry, now everything is fine because now we have more immigrants, which means more good.
	We'll begin with just some data points real quick.
	I don't know, maybe someone's joining us and is like, London, I thought that was a great place.
	Best country, best country in the world.
	Best city in the world, according to Sadiq Khan.
	It is the best country.
	It's certainly a country, isn't it?
	Look, for people who don't know, I mean, at this point, culturally, if nothing else, I mean, London is just a foreign land compared to the rest of England, and, well...
	Even in the data, but you can check that out in the previous article, as mentioned.
	We'll have just some points about the current leader of Raj.
	We have Sadiq Khan here, who is the mayor.
	And just as people talk about him, nothing is ever good.
	I never see a single good statement about him, except people who like bikes.
	Bike lanes, people seem to like him for that.
	So Jeremy Vine is praising Sadiq Khan's tenure over London.
	Yeah, I don't want to be on that team.
	But you can see here, just a graph, crime, Sadiq Khan becomes mayor.
	Everything gets better, because the line is going up, so we're good.
	But this is very interesting, because previously it was Boris, and Boris was very strong on Stop and Search, and Sadiq Khan.
	Part of his campaign was literally him cross-armed, being like, I'm going to end stop and search because it's racist.
	Right.
	Stopping crime is racist, says the mayor.
	Right, his words.
	But every story about London is some hellscape story.
	Not just this one, but I mean like this one here, where we found out that a significant portion of the London police force were illiterate because they didn't want to hire white men.
	I mean, that's just not what you want to hear when you're a victim of crime, is it?
	Considering the job of the policeman is mostly basically filling out forms in triplicate, this seems like an obstacle.
	These days, yeah.
	But it shouldn't be, should it?
	It should be just cracking the skulls of burglars.
	It's not even that, though, is it?
	If it was either or, it would make sense.
	Yeah.
	There's also just the state propaganda.
	We've mentioned this before, so I won't read the whole thing again.
	It's the colonization in reverse thing that's on the tube.
	I was actually there on Friday, and I was walking around.
	It's not just this one.
	How is it not?
	There's a whole bunch of different poems that have been put up.
	And they are all the same.
	Brilliant.
	It's just, isn't it wonderful that England's no longer English?
	And that's all over the tubes.
	Every single tube I went on, I could see at least one of them.
	Not to mention just the general stuff.
	I mean, even before this, everyone has been on the tube and you've seen posters that are like, hate crimes no longer tolerated, as if it was before.
	Or you'll have a thing that's the word immigrant and then a lady looking smart and the word im will be in red to be like I'm, and there'll be some advert for learning English or some crap.
	So, you know, weird immigration adverts or promotions from companies all the state, just all the time.
	Just catering to the demographic.
	Not to mention this, which is new.
	I mean, we can see here, this is Siddiq Khan tweeting out all aboard for Pride, and he has decided to spend a load of money on rainbowing the buses and the trains.
	Of course, not with the traditional, conservative Pride flag, but instead with the racial one, including the trans flag colours.
	I don't know at what point he would stop with the number of colours.
	Whenever Siddiq Khan tweets about Pride, I always start to feel... I feel more Islamically Orthodox.
	I do wonder how his compatriots feel about it.
	Well, they can't be thrilled about it.
	I mean, there was a mayor of Keithley, thank you, people correcting me, who had to apologize for putting up the pride flag because he was a Muslim.
	Did you see the other day when we were talking about the submarine, you said it was the Pacific Ocean?
	Did I?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I meant Atlantic.
	There we are, still on.
	It's just, it made me laugh.
	But, okay, great.
	More, more, more average London things, I suppose.
	Well, I love the diversity of the people on there though.
	Like, old Jamaican black guy, he loves pride.
	He's always been good for pride.
	That fella there, the Sikh, and the Muslim champ next to him.
	Best buddies!
	And then they've got a guy next to him who looks a bit camp.
	So I'm sure all three of them are the best friends, and they all get to surf together.
	I know a number of Sikh guys, and their political views would pale even us in this office.
	When it comes to this sort of stuff.
	Yeah, but that's like the political views of literally everything outside of the West.
	Yes.
	It's just completely normal political views for every non-Westerner.
	Yes.
	What's that, about 80% of the human population?
	Yeah.
	But we think we're special, okay.
	But it's not the only thing I wanted to check out.
	I wanted to also check out the people who are behind this.
	I don't know if we can, uh, it doesn't seem to follow for some reason.
	I don't know if I've broken the machine, John.
	I'm pressing next and it's not going next.
	Uh, but the point being, I wanted to also show the people involved, which was just the next link, which is the fact that, um, well, of course there were government employees, as usual, just randos.
	You can see here, some guy called Seb, someone called Night Czar.
	Not a real name.
	Seeing a lot of white women in that line-up.
	But they were all paid to be there, is the point.
	But the following example we can see, so we'll just check out Steve Kahn.
	Of course, all their salaries are publicly available.
	£150,000 for him.
	The next guy, Seb, is £132,000.
	Jesus!
	And the next lady here, £116,000.
	That's a lot of Greeks you can buy for that.
	I tell you, she looks worth every penny, doesn't she?
	I mean, I hate to be rude.
	I mean, that guy is also just obviously stealing in terms of having a job here.
	I mean, it's ridiculous levels of cash for people who do what exactly?
	This is their crowning achievement.
	What have I done?
	I've put a rainbow on a bus.
	Wow, great, thanks.
	You're saving the world.
	But it's not just that, he's also having a tough time recently.
	The local, uh, Viceroy.
	Here you can see he did a thing where he was like, I'm lighting up the lights in my office for solidarity with European Londoners.
	European Londoners.
	Just think about that word.
	European Londoners.
	Yes.
	I hate this so much.
	His primary concern is EU citizens who are identifying with the EU and not England, but live in London for some reason.
	He's talking about French and German people who live in London.
	Yes.
	They're not Londoners.
	They're French and German.
	Londoners used to be English.
	Like, that's what Londoner meant.
	But you can clearly see the distinction in his mind.
	There was a time, and we probably all think this, that London should be the capital of England.
	Whereas he thinks it should be a global capital.
	It is just one of a number of global capitals.
	And therefore you can have a bunch of French and German Londoners, and there's no contradiction in his mind.
	It's funny you say that.
	They're English Parisians.
	It's just like, what are you talking about?
	It's funny you say all that, because his response, and you might wonder, why the hell are you turning on purple lights in your office?
	It's not exactly the usual thing you do.
	Why not put it beneath your flag or something?
	It seems more like you, right?
	Yeah, it does, yeah.
	Well, it turns out he was banned from doing that.
	So this is on LBC, where he did an interview with James O'Brien.
	Just sat there sad, the government won't let me put up my EU flag.
	No they won't, Sadiq, you proud European.
	So this is him whining, I don't know if there's subtitles, there they are.
	He's whining because usually he's allowed to put up the Pride flag, or the Commonwealth flag, or the UN flag, and he's like, and also I'm allowed to put up all the other countries' flags when there's a national tragedy, like in New Zealand, which I think comes to mind for him, and he's like, but why can't I fly the EU flag?
	And even James O'Brien has sat there like, we are in the UN and the Commonwealth.
	We're not in the EU.
	We did specifically vote to leave the EU.
	Yeah, he then goes on to whine about how it's barbaric that we've done such a thing.
	It's just barbaric.
	Amazing.
	See, he's still there, whining.
	He's like, I can't put up in the EU flat.
	The one good thing the government did is tell Sadiq Khan you can't virtue signal on one thing.
	You can't fly the flag of the rival empire that we've just left.
	I know it's a small victory.
	I mean, there's something weird about being on the right.
	It's just like, man, he said that a woman doesn't have a penis.
	Man, he said that we can't fly the enemy's flag!
	Look at JK Rowling!
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's amazing.
	But there's more, of course, because he also decided to head on over and do a tweet recently.
	Remember this?
	Oh yeah, if you scroll down, you'll probably see my reply.
	I ratioed him about 10 to 1.
	Oh no, we have far more important things to dab on him with.
	To be fair, you can do that on almost any of Sadiq Khan's tweets.
	I'm always under there, so shout out to Sadiq.
	Is he like your Tom Harwood now?
	You're just bullying him.
	Yeah, I am, yeah.
	Yeah, totally.
	I'm surprised he hasn't blocked me, actually.
	Anyway, this is the local Viceroy saying that the city was built by migrants, by refugees, in the same way that, like, I don't know, the Viceroy of India might have said that the Raj was built by the British, and you should be grateful, you mother... Anyway, but this guy decides to say, in the face of hostile immigration policies... Hostile, draconian, and immoral immigration policies.
	It's only letting in a million people a year.
	Such as asking for a passport, sometimes, If you don't have one, if you come illegally, that's fine.
	Draconian rubber stamping of every application that comes across their desk.
	Shut up, Sadiq.
	Do you remember the story of Draco of Greece?
	Where Draconian comes from?
	Yeah, I do, yeah.
	He used to, um, I believe he legalized all crime.
	That was the story.
	No, actually, it was the opposite.
	All crime was the death penalty.
	Strange.
	So maybe, maybe, Sadiq.
	If only we were taking inspiration from Draco.
	But for some reason, we're not.
	And the community notes here, I have to mention, because he's taking the battering recently, just publicly, on every lie he tells, is my point.
	You can see here, the City of London was founded around the year 50.
	It was built up over nearly 2,000 years by people we today call the English.
	I love that it's a third person as well.
	It was not built by migrants, refugees, but by those natives of the British Isles.
	Source, cityoflondon.gov.
	Your own fucking website.
	you But that's the thing.
	My reply to this was just, Sadiq, this is such a demonstrable and provable... Oh, there we go.
	Five to one ratio.
	That is an obvious and provable lie.
	It's like, why would you say something that's such obviously a lie?
	You know, what would be the motive?
	I would never come out and be like, yeah, so, you know, I don't know.
	I can't even think of a lie so obviously wrong.
	Well, it's not meant to be a lie, is it?
	It's a new narrative, I mean.
	Well, that's the point.
	It's a fiction.
	So, like, Homer Simpson is yellow.
	I mean, that's a fiction.
	It's not a truth or a lie.
	It's not real.
	No, no, but it is true.
	The fictional character, Homer Simpson, is yellow.
	That's true.
	Sure, but if you draw him as green, for example, and then say, oh, he's green.
	Sure.
	But there's a fundamental difference in how you use language.
	So you use language to describe the world that is, that has been, and that you perceive.
	Leftists use language to describe the world that they want to bring into being because they think that it has originating action.
	That's completely correct, yeah.
	And that's the point I was trying to make, because if you look at a nation, anyone on earth, there's a national fiction about why we exist, our justification.
	For example, the Saudis, it's the kingdom of Islam.
	If you go to the Iranians, it's the fact that we're a theocracy and divided by God and blah blah blah.
	For the UK, I mean, our one is meant to be that God himself picks the king or queen and therefore that power comes from that and we live under them and try and serve them.
	I mean, that is our founding myth in terms of the monarchy, the United Kingdom we live under.
	But of course you could get an ethnic one as well.
	Yeah, I mean, it's long and complex.
	Yeah, I'm trying to simplify it real quick.
	I'm not going to sit here for 20 minutes trying to explain.
	It all started in Winchester and then we beat the Vikings.
	No, we all went to the pub.
	But my point being that... No, no, that's not the narrative.
	The mythological narrative is really complex and Hanks and Horser are fighting Vortigaunt.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It would go on.
	My only reason for bringing this up was just to point out that's what he's doing.
	He's creating a new fiction in which he can build his life.
	So it's not a lie.
	It is literally something he's making up for the reason why the city of London exists.
	I'm actually brought to mind of Karatekus when he gets finally defeated by the Romans.
	The Romans drag him back to Rome and he's looking at their massive marble buildings like, why do you want our tents?
	We literally live in tents.
	And that's where Sadiq Khan has arrived at.
	It's like the migrants built London.
	All these giant buildings.
	Yeah, because before that the English were living in tents and we've come here to save you from poverty.
	Speaking of though, people's commentary on that was pretty good.
	London was built by refugees.
	Little refugees.
	Picture here.
	Yeah, I have people saying this to me.
	Oh, the Italian migrants.
	The Romans were not Italian migrants!
	There were some other pesky Brits who keep bringing up photographic evidence of the opposite being the case.
	Video cameras existed.
	Yeah, strange.
	I thought before 1948 there was nothing.
	Literally zero.
	But it's not The only thing, it's also, I wanted to point out just the knife crime thing, which we have before, that increase in crime from earlier.
	It seems to only happen in certain areas.
	You can guess what the colours on that graph mean in your own time, I suppose.
	I'm trying not to leave any hints.
	It's a map?
	Okay, yeah.
	Generally, as well, like, CityCon is hated.
	I mean, like, the ULIS scheme.
	I mean, if you ever want to talk to anyone about London at the moment, everything just seems to be about the ULIS scheme.
	This is the ultra low emissions zone in London, which used to be, as you can see, a tiny red dot.
	So if you entered there and you didn't have an ultra low emissions car, you had to pay £12.50.
	OK, and then they expanded it to this blue one, which is pretty big.
	And then they want to expand it to the green one, which is literally a whole city.
	So this is what I keep trying to explain to people about 15 Minute Cities, is it's not going to be these little flower planters forever.
	That's just the foot in the door, and then it's going to expand from there.
	So if you want to leave your parking space, literally ever, to go anywhere, you have to pay £12.30.
	£12.30, please.
	It's such a grift.
	It's such a grift.
	The polling on this I believe is what, 80% of Londoners oppose this plan.
	But the thing is this, again, if the left were in any way honest, they'd be like, well hang on a second, isn't this just a way of penalising the poor?
	Because the rich of course can afford to pay £12.50.
	And so this will affect them in no way, shape or form.
	But for some reason, if you go and check out the polling on the next mayoral elections, there you are.
	No impact.
	No impact whatsoever.
	No matter what Sidi Kahn does, no matter how stupid it is, no matter how much of a lie, or frankly, hostile fiction he makes up about the new world order he's creating, or just petty things such as destroying everyone's wealth with the ULEZ scheme.
	No impact.
	Zero.
	Londoners just keep on loving him for some reason, according to the poll.
	Londoners.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	Because, well... I don't know what I've done there.
	Apparently the button is broken.
	Okay.
	That's trippy.
	John, can you fix that please?
	The button's not stuck on my end, it's just... No, the buttons are fine, but they're not... No.
	No, I'm not touching it.
	There we are, the electronics are broken yet again.
	Okay.
	Anyway, the thing I was going to show was just there was a local woman who had some wrong thing.
	Right, so we should deal with that.
	She decided to tweet one day.
	Living in London, I get homesick for England.
	It's not ours anymore.
	It's not British.
	It's not stuck and the buttons aren't responding now.
	I don't know if the audience can see what's happening to the screen.
	Technical difficulties, ladies and gentlemen.
	What are we getting there?
	Sitting next on Max.
	I can't remember her name now.
	Alexander Phillips, I think?
	Yeah, it's the woman from GB News.
	Tinder in the middle!
	Anyway, but she decided to do that and she got in a lot of trouble.
	This tweet got 10 million views.
	It just blew up amazingly.
	And it wasn't blowing up amongst the right, talking about, oh yeah, so true.
	So what did she say?
	She said that London is no longer England, she gets homesick.
	She gets homesick for England and London's no longer ours.
	She gets homesick for England living in London.
	Yeah.
	But the way she says it, London is no longer ours.
	is the thing.
	So it's as in she's appealing from within the frame of being a part of an ethnicity and saying, well, this is territory that has been ceded to the global order.
	Like, close of her or something.
	It's gone from Serbia.
	It's no longer part of us.
	Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
	I wonder if we can get to the tweet in question.
	I think it's a few along there.
	Yeah, two more along, and then I think we're there.
	John?
	John, I might.
	Whatever.
	The thing is, I saw the end...
	We're a tweet from Alexander somebody.
	All right, it's back.
	This is...
	Three more.
	There we are.
	That's the tweet in question I was talking about.
	As you can see, the answer break it again.
	This is an NPC response.
	Just check.
	Someone decided to ask a robot to write a response.
	Sorry to burst your bubble, but England has always been diverse and ever-changing.
	Perhaps it's time to embrace the present rather than cling to the romanticized past.
	That's weird, because I don't think England has always been ever-changing.
	It's basically been the same for the last thousand years.
	That's kind of the meme about it.
	Hang on, that literally was a bot response, wasn't it?
	Yes, that is an automated bot response there.
	Because we know what they're going to say.
	It's always the same response.
	We automated the lefties.
	We don't need them anymore.
	That's literally what they are.
	When we get to my segment, that's exactly what they are.
	They're literally NPCs who are programmed like bots.
	But speaking of which, real life here.
	This guy came out.
	London has always been diverse.
	If you don't like it, leave it.
	We'll miss you.
	I mean, there's another guy here who threw a hissy.
	I don't have time to go through his hissy fit, but he really did.
	I forget his name.
	We see him quite often just being like, everything's great in London.
	I was like, really?
	Why does everyone keep leaving?
	Local Indian nationalist from LBC turned up as well.
	He really needs to get a better grip of geography if you think London isn't in England.
	Caved in brain.
	No, no, this is amazing, this is amazing.
	How did England get its name Sanjita, right?
	And it's because it was the geographic location that the English occupied.
	You're wasting your breath.
	And so if the English don't occupy the location, it stops being England.
	She's not going to listen.
	Well, anyway, a local London resident started to ask, what even is British culture?
	Who can tell?
	Nina Chowdhury.
	Yeah, a local Pakistani was arguing that, well, what even is British culture?
	You don't know, do you?
	And it's not a surprise, you don't really know.
	How would you know?
	What was it?
	Five London boroughs over one in five, sorry, one in two people is foreign.
	Yeah, 40% of all of London is first generation immigrant.
	37% English.
	Last 20 years, just got off a plane.
	That was last year's number.
	No, what I mean, the population is so new.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's unbelievably new.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, there's a gif here from Wikipedia, which just shows like change over time, as you can see here.
	They have to use race for this gif because it's the only data that's available in that term.
	But then it breaks down to white British, as you can see it.
	There you are.
	There's the present present day.
	Wow.
	It's almost like something changed in the 1990s, especially.
	But anyway, we're going to end this off because some guy decided to tweet out something rather wonderful, which is a little thread of a documentary about the last whites in the East End.
	And we covered this in a premium podcast.
	I didn't know you did this.
	Did we?
	I did it with you.
	Yeah.
	It's been so long.
	Anyway, go check that out belowseers.com, but we'll give you a little snapshot into what happened there by playing the following clip, if we can.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	And he lives in Somerset.
	And David lives in Luton.
	And Lynn, of course, lives in North.
	their family here but one by one they all left the East End Andy lives in Somerset and David lives in Newton and Lynn of course lives in Norfolk that is why I have to move because there's nobody here The video's not playing for some reason.
	The life that we know is finished.
	Don't you agree?
	Yeah.
	And that's true.
	Newham has got the biggest immigration population in this country for the size of what it is.
	There's 147 languages in Newham.
	That's right.
	We've lost our community.
	We're foreigners in our own country now.
	Charlotte can't go to this school.
	Charlotte can't go to these schools.
	Why not?
	I was thinking actually about that and I was thinking, you know, has this got to do with colour or has it got to do with religion?
	I was sitting down and I was having a think.
	I don't want her to forget who she is or where I'm from or where her mum's from.
	I don't want her to forget these things.
	I think these schools round here will make her lose her identity.
	You find a nativity plate, no more nativity plates.
	Christmas cards, no more Christmas cards.
	I think my children are being exposed to different cultures, different faiths.
	Come on, be careful.
	So, I'm quite happy because they will be more open-minded.
	Be careful of the mud, be careful of the mud.
	In saying that, I have to say that the British way of life is something they are not experiencing because of lack of British children.
	Maybe Sanjit had just come along and explained, no, geographically.
	You're in England, mate, don't worry about it.
	That last chap there was a Bangladeshi immigrant and he's there with his four children, they're taking him to school.
	He's like, oh yeah, they're not getting any English culture here, maybe I should move.
	And the thing is, you can imagine the BBC commissioning a documentary going all around the world, speaking to native peoples, being extremely sympathetic to when they say, we feel like we're losing our culture.
	Oh, we don't need to.
	We can go to Tibet and China.
	A couple of, well, probably like a decade ago, the big fear was China was going to demographically displace the Tibetans.
	So of course there were 4 million Tibetans and a billion Chinese.
	Endless sympathy for other people losing their culture, except for our own.
	Yeah.
	So this video here, I mean, I just, I loved how the whole thing there ended up with the local immigrant population as well being like, we've lost access to the English population.
	And then thinking about moving on to find more English population to be amongst.
	It's like, okay, well, look, there's only so many, you know, as you say, there's a billion Chinese.
	Yeah.
	And everyone wants to be around a Tibetan neighborhood.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think it'll work.
	But anyway, that's my point about London, which is the, uh, I think, provably, I'm going to have to show that they deserve their fate.
	If they're going to keep voting for people like Sadiq Khan, if the polls aren't even going to move at all from the last election, then, um, I don't know, enjoy.
	Sadiq Khan wanted to have an open border policy for London.
	Because the UK government was like, well, we want to reduce immigration, which is obviously a lie.
	But Sadiq Khan heard this and was like, well, then London should be essentially its own nation state and have completely open borders.
	So I'm fine with that as long as we build a wall around it.
	Yeah, I was going to say.
	Yeah, I'm not happy that we're giving up a capsule, but anyway.
	What do you mean giving up?
	It's gone.
	Yeah, I know.
	I think I hate it.
	Anyway, so just so you know, the pair of you are both gynosexual NPCs.
	Oh, I am all about the punani.
	That's basically what this is, yeah.
	But there's a new name for it.
	Why?
	Why is there a new name for it?
	Well, this is because something is happening to the West, and it's been happening for a long time now, and we're seeing the very final phases of it, where everything is personalized and Essentially commodified, but also categorizable, right?
	As in, can be placed into categories.
	And this is how the West is being dissolved.
	Is this so that we never need to make assumptions or use the word normal?
	Yes.
	Right.
	That's exactly what it is.
	But before we begin, go and watch my premium podcast on...
	Personal autonomy, no, that was the wrong one.
	It was meant to be moral fit concepts, because that's what we're going to be talking about.
	I must have changed it.
	But also go and watch this, because this is a good one.
	Because personal autonomy is also at the root of what this is.
	So, in fact, these actually do dovetail nicely, actually.
	So personal autonomy is something that you don't really have that much of, because you are totally reliant on other people.
	Josh goes into in that podcast and these relations that you have with other people are encapsulated in what I've got here as thick concepts, because we have a word for these things that describe a person, another person, and the relationship that they have between them and informs the moral content of that relationship all in one word.
	And so this is all stuff that we've been through in detail and you should catch up on if you haven't.
	So let's have a look at a list of sexualities.
	It's a bit long.
	It's just stupid.
	It's absolutely stupid.
	I love how gay is right at the bottom.
	The only other sexuality.
	Gay.
	Anyway, these have been created to describe things.
	Things like fictosexual.
	Do you think you might be fictosexual?
	Attracted to fictitious people?
	An identity of someone who is mostly attracted to fictional characters.
	The fictional character could be from any medium.
	Have you ever looked at a picture of a hot woman?
	And you're like, wow, she's hot.
	You ever looked at a drawing?
	Fellow fictosexuals.
	AI generated a very busty young woman for you.
	You're a fictosexual.
	Video game characters.
	Oh my God, Lara Croft.
	If you watch a movie, does that count?
	If it's animated.
	Princess Jasmine in Aladdin.
	It's an umbrella term for anyone who experiences sexual attraction towards fictional characters.
	That's everyone, because they're representations of women, or whatever it is you're attracted to.
	It's not something that needs its own term, right?
	What about neuter sexual attraction to super mutants?
	Oh, I thought that was going to be people who've mutilated themselves, because that would be a growing category at the moment.
	No, it's not that either.
	It's a fluid sexuality in which your attraction changes from day to day.
	One day you'll be attracted to men, the next day you'll be attracted to fictional characters.
	Didn't we already have bi to cover that?
	Uh, yes.
	But, as they say, you may be bisexual, then gay, then straight, for example.
	That's still bi.
	This is a form of fluid multisexuality in that you can feel attracted to all genders, but you don't always like all genders at once.
	I mean, it really is teenage girl in her bedroom thinking about this way too much.
	That's what this is.
	But I think that I might be on something here because I think you might both be graysexuals.
	Graysexuality is the spectrum between asexuality and sexuality.
	What?
	Yeah, it's hard to know, right?
	But someone in the comments explains it means you sometimes feel attraction.
	So if I'm riding my bike to work, I'm not feeling much attraction.
	But when I get home and I see my wife, then I'm feeling attraction.
	Therefore, I'm a grey sector.
	So this is just like when you're doing something else.
	Being normal.
	Hang on, but to be straight, you'd have to constantly be thinking about having sex with your wife.
	Yes, I would.
	So otherwise you're not straight.
	I'm now graysexual.
	And the next one, of course, is allosexual.
	Allosexual refers to people who are not on the asexual spectrum.
	So people who are always feeling attraction.
	In other words, it describes someone who regularly experiences sexual attraction for others.
	So I guess I'm somewhere between graysexual and allosexual.
	You're a whore.
	I don't know if horse feel sexual attraction to the customers.
	There's a description there where they're like sometimes it's used to slut shaming to say that someone constantly has random attractions.
	I guess you're right it is it is horse sexual.
	That's correct.
	See the annoying thing about this though is that of course government legislation in this country says you can't discriminate for employment, housing, services or goods On the basis of sexuality?
	Right.
	So if someone does come in and insists that they're graysexual or whatever, right, you actually can't disagree with them?
	That's a good point.
	Or you would be breaking the law?
	Absolutely.
	It is the law.
	You must recognize my allosexuality.
	Hello, hello.
	What's happening here then?
	Oh, she's graysexual.
	Why are you not?
	Have you ever thought about yourself as a demisexual?
	Right.
	This has got to be people who are attracted to demigods like Helen of Troy and Hercules and Achilles.
	I think they may actually be characterized in fictosexual.
	Oh, right.
	Right.
	No, a demisexual is where you don't feel sexual attraction to any person unless you have a deep emotional bond with that person.
	I mean, in previous eras, we call this being an old-fashioned romantic.
	So this is not a whore sexual.
	This is being in love with someone.
	You've got to love it when these perverts, every so often, accidentally reinvent trends.
	Yeah, this is our Aron McIntyre thing.
	They've reinvented Atlantis by discovering love.
	I just have really deep feelings for that person.
	I only want to have sex with them.
	Oh, you're demi-sexual.
	What?
	I think you might be a bit Das Flynn sexual sometimes.
	This is German.
	It sounds it, doesn't it?
	Being attracted to all people who dress like they're opposing sex.
	What?
	I only like people who are cross-dressing.
	Not necessarily.
	Women aren't cross-dressing when they're dressing as the opposing sex.
	I thought that's what the definition of cross-dressing was.
	If they dress as men.
	Yeah, but they're not cross-dressing.
	No, if women are dressed as men.
	No, but people who dress like they're opposite sex.
	So, oh yeah, no, okay, yeah, fair enough, yeah, you would.
	Christ, this is complicated stuff.
	So, basically, look at the one comment there.
	even like the tumblr wiki is just like but this is anything in a dress a woman a man a mannequin something like that but well i tell you what is anything in a dress is femme sexual right right so it's well no actually they say specifically this is the attraction to women feminine non-binary people and 100 androgynous non-binary people what the hell Can you break down that last sentence?
	No.
	I don't know what 100% androgynous non-binary people means.
	I assume it means non-binary people, people who don't identify as women, but are totally non-masculine, and so are totally feminine.
	So a woman who isn't really into sex, so doesn't make an effort, so calls themselves non-binary, No, no, no, no, no.
	That's not true.
	She might make an effort.
	She might be femme presenting.
	So she, she just doesn't identify as a woman right in her head, but she may, well, she doesn't feel like a woman, but she may look like a woman and presents as a woman and still call herself non-binary because you're looking for an objective criterion here, which there isn't one.
	Grug is confused.
	My brain just doesn't do unnecessary complications.
	No, but that's the point.
	This is unnecessary complication, right?
	But it all stems along the same pattern.
	But, good news, you guys are just gynosexuals.
	This is WebMD.
	This isn't even Tumblr.com.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, this is almost a proper website.
	You like chicks, right?
	And now there's a special term for that.
	When you think about it, it's remarkable how long it took this term to come about.
	Because this Tumblr stuff is from like 2013.
	10 years later, we now have a word that signifies attraction to women.
	Hang on, but we don't know what a woman is.
	Oh, that's a different question.
	And actually, that's kind of the point of this word, right?
	Is they've realized that, hang on a second, we've scooped out the content of the word woman.
	It's become very confusing, and lots of people have pushed back very strongly on this, on what is a woman, and we're kind of losing that argument, and therefore, if we create a new term called gynosexuality, we sidestep that issue, and now we can keep making headway.
	I'll explain why as we go on.
	I thought super straight would have worked, but never mind, that came from the wrong place.
	Yeah, it came from the wrong place, but it's kind of the same thing, right?
	So gynosexuality describes someone who's attracted to femininity.
	But if they're an actual woman as well.
	That's the point.
	They've rediscovered Atlantis again.
	They found out what a woman is.
	No, they've gone...
	It's worse than that, actually.
	So that means a person of any gender can be attracted to someone who identifies as female or expresses feminine characteristics.
	So now both men and lesbians are gynosexuals, right?
	Right.
	So what they've done here is, if you think the term straight, gay, and lesbian, right...
	They have the subject, they have the object, they have the relation, right?
	Yes.
	The person who fills the desire, the object of the desire, and the description of the relation.
	So they're straight, they're gay, and this describes the entire package, right?
	But gynosexual only focuses on the subject.
	It doesn't matter what the subject is.
	So the subject could be a man, could be a woman, could be a lesbian, you know, whatever it is.
	And so they abandon having to define this category.
	Right, they have cleared out this category of content as well, so now it's only a human who is into females, right?
	An androsexual being a human who is into men, right?
	This is a very clever linguistic trick, it allows them to continue.
	But they haven't actually said females, they've said people who identify as female.
	Yes.
	So now it could also be a man having sex with a man is gynosexual, so we're back at... A man dressed as a woman who...
	And a man who is attracted to people who are feminine, yes, that would make them gynosexual.
	So they're trying to clear up a confusion they created by making the terms of reference massively more complicated.
	Um, well, actually, in a way, it kind of does simplify things.
	And that's kind of the point of this.
	Yeah, but only if you follow this, and it sounds like you sort of follow it, but I'm just, I'm just lost here.
	The point here is that there's a lot of information that is contained in the word straight, or gay, lesbian, right?
	You actually know a lot about the situation.
	If I would say that, you know, Peter is gay.
	But that's what words are supposed to do.
	Yes, of course.
	That'd be such a barbarian, come on!
	That's what thick language is for, right?
	And this is what the deep understanding, and this is why this is pernicious, right?
	So, because what this has done is it's stripped out all of the other information.
	Because I mean, if you say someone is, you know, gay, then okay, well, it's a man who's into other men.
	And men, you already knew it was a man, and that comes with lots of other things.
	And you know what kind of man Like the kind of social standing that person's going to have if they are gay and the kind of things that they're going to do and the kind of general you'll have general impressions of all of these things based on stereotypes frankly.
	So at this point I just want to recommend the book 1984 and the New Speak Dictionary Project.
	That's exactly what this is going for.
	Right?
	This is the destruction of concepts, right?
	It is the destruction of the thick concept that we use to understand human relations.
	This is all a part of the project, the long project of liberalism, to ultimately destroy social relations.
	That's what this is for, right?
	And so they literally are removing the concepts of the relations in this newspeak way in order to make sure we simply can't formulate certain kinds of thoughts, right?
	This would destroy, were we to adopt this, obviously we're not going to, but were we to adopt this, and if a child was raised with this newspeak dictionary, They wouldn't have the concept of straight, right?
	It wouldn't be normal.
	It wouldn't be, it wouldn't contain all of the things.
	Like when, when a straight couple get married, you understand that we're talking about family, which is again, a big thick idea that has lots attached to it, lots and lots.
	And then you see the civilization built on top.
	Well, this is about isolating all of that.
	So it almost exactly is the 1984 Newspeak Dictionary, because the whole project there was to raise the new generation using this new dictionary so that they were unable to commit thought crime.
	Yes, that's what this is.
	And the thought crime in question is, of course, on the question of what is a woman, right?
	So it doesn't matter anymore.
	And so, thank God, men's health are here.
	Guys, do you know that you might be gynosexuals?
	Shut up.
	Just shut up.
	I mean, this literally is NPC code.
	Like, look at this for it.
	The number of terms and identities under the LGBTQ umbrella is ever growing, allowing more and more people to describe their sexuality with words that make sense to them.
	One word you may not have heard that's helping some people express who they are is gynosexual, as in literally the new NPC code has arrived.
	I'm also intrigued that the picture choice that they went for was a black man with a white woman.
	That's a bold choice.
	You never see them go for that.
	Of course it was.
	But Lyneth Fox, a sex educator, tells us, gynosexuality refers to being sexually attractive femininity, irrespective of one's own gender identity or the gender identity of the femme-presenting person they are attracted to.
	As you can see, the expressly is to destroy the content of the subject and object.
	It's to literally sever that.
	These are now not relevant.
	These are not necessary components of what is being described.
	But they are expressed about this.
	And so it's the depth.
	And again, it's so pernicious that this is being done in such a blasé way.
	Like so much is being ruined here that they don't even realize.
	And we fall back on our traditional upbringings of knowing what men and women, fathers, mothers, and all these things are.
	But if you didn't have that, then you would be deprived of all of this understanding.
	Yeah, so if this were to become the norm in every state school in the country, which is presumably the next step, because this- And it has been right up until this point, why wouldn't this be?
	The next thing is this will be getting pushed in teacher training.
	Yeah.
	And then in 30 years time, there'll be kids who don't even know what these old words are.
	And then you'll read, you'll read old books like we, you know, where it's like a wifeman, if you read some old Anglo-Saxon thing, and that means woman, right?
	And it's, it'll be like those sorts of words that have just, but this is artificially getting rid of the words rather than just falling out of use.
	But anyway, the reason for all of this, obviously, is because if someone is non-binary and attracted to women, gynosexual may be a better fit for them than straight, which would typically be used by a man, or lesbian, which would typically be used by a woman.
	So we can see, literally, it avoids the questions of what is a woman, it avoids all of these questions by simply Exiling the content.
	And so that's all gone, right?
	Additionally, it can be used by individuals who may be attracted to femininity or femme presenting expressions that have nothing to do with gender identity.
	Brilliant.
	What are we even describing?
	Like, how is this even connecting to the real world?
	So you can be attracted to women who are actually men now because they look like women.
	And so the reason, of course, in order to avoid being hindered by stereotypes of femininity as a gynosexual person, Fox suggests deciding for yourself what traits you're attracted to, rather than assuming that all feminine traits might be for you.
	Someone can be attracted to nurturing behavior and not consider this a feminine trait or an attraction pattern at all.
	So now there are no traits that are just intrinsic to people.
	All of this now is completely up for choice.
	And this is The erasure of the magic of romance, right?
	The erasure of reality.
	It absolutely is.
	But it's also, this is where like falling in love with someone, right?
	You don't rationalize all of these things.
	You just have these emotions and you describe them with deep language that, you know, in one word you describe a lot.
	And this is all going to go.
	This is all going to be erased.
	It's all going to be rationalized.
	It's all going to be laid out and categorized so in future we can have the... And this is the effect of the managerial state on the individuals themselves.
	Everything is being categorized.
	Everything is getting accounted for.
	Everything has to be consistent and linear.
	If we let them win, but to be fair, stuff like this... Why is Men's Health promoting this?
	The 30 year old version of this was going into schools 30 years ago and it won.
	Yeah.
	And it's just been winning, winning, winning.
	So if this is the stuff that's going into teacher training colleges now, which it will be, yeah, it's coming down the track.
	Because this aligns perfectly with the managerial technocratic revolution.
	Well, why wouldn't we want to be able to categorize everything?
	So of course we want to be able to categorize everything, and don't you deserve to have all of your own understanding of yourself categorized as well?
	And so, good, you've got your own flag.
	That's the gynosexual flag.
	Are you going to get a pin?
	Gonna fly that?
	No, I'm gonna get a Polish work visa type A, which allows you to work for a Polish employer for up to 12 months.
	Anyway, going back, pretty much anyone attracted to women or feminine traits would qualify as gynosexual.
	However, again, definitions of femininity and gynosexuality are subjective, so brilliant.
	Not even the definition of being gynosexual actually means something, really, ultimately, right?
	Um, and so obviously it's completely up to anyone how they identify.
	So do we even need any of this anyway?
	But, uh, but anyway, yeah, so this is, this is the latest way in which our civilization is being very subtly attacked by the international liberal order.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Well, after that depressing news, why don't me, the Lotus Eater newbie, sit down with Lotus Eaters OGs Callum and Carl, and have a bit of a reminisce about how things used to be, and maybe let's touch on where things are possibly going next.
	So, before we get into that, actually... Why's your screen turned blood red?
	I don't know.
	It's a Joe Biden thing, isn't it?
	It just comes down blood red, and I describe the new order of things.
	Why on earth are we called the Lotus Eaters?
	Because it's a nice name.
	Right.
	It's non-threatening.
	You're expecting more than that, weren't you?
	Yes.
	And also, like, I wanted something that was rooted in the Western canon, right?
	Okay.
	That wasn't, like, and there are loads of considerations, like you need a brand name for a media company, right?
	Yeah.
	And there are loads of, like, VICE or The Daily Beast and stuff like this, right?
	So it's got to be something quite unusual that becomes memorable, but I also wanted something that was connected to the Western canon.
	And I was reading The Odyssey at the time, And one of the things that strikes me of the Island of the Lotus Eaters is just how bad a rap they get.
	But there's nothing in the Odyssey that says they're a bunch of drug addicts or anything like that.
	They're just nice.
	And they're just like, do you want to stay?
	And they're like, yeah, I do want to stay.
	Oh, so it's from a story in the Odyssey about an island of people who ate lotuses.
	Yeah, but the Lotuses are just a food, but it just makes you want to stay on the island.
	And the thing is, they're not evil, right?
	All of the other islands, it's the first one they get to, and all of the other islands, they're trying to kill the Odysseus and his men, right?
	But on the island of the Lotuses, they're not.
	It's essentially a metaphor for a different paradigm.
	Nice group.
	A different way of living, right?
	And what's interesting is if they'd stayed on the island of the Lotus Eaters, they would have survived.
	Because the Odyssey, Odysseus is the only one who makes it back alive.
	And if you're not Odysseus, you're probably not going to make it alive out of that paradigm.
	So there's actually quite a deep story.
	You put a lot of thought into this.
	That's why we call it the Lotus Eaters, I've always wondered that.
	Now, as you may have noticed, we have changed to this remarkable new studio.
	I sort of feel like I'm on the CIC of the Starship Sargon here, and I'm afraid to press the buttons in case I shoot a satellite down or something.
	Hey, I don't know anything about the buttons.
	But let's say a fond farewell to the old studio, which we've just left behind.
	And I want to thank TMK, one of our supporters, who put together this series of clips from the old place.
	For the Jedi power of Bors growing a vagina on himself in real time.
	Michael Jackson is not actually a werewolf from Thriller.
	Something happens.
	They'll say, well, I'm a conservative or I'm homeless.
	Whatever.
	She, he, ze, puh, them, puh, him, puh, their, puh, chers and puhs.
	This is about butt sex.
	I am all for older women, but the mighty toilet.
	The porcelain bowl of honesty and truth.
	What are you doing?
	I'm ordering a rubber chicken.
	You can afford £5 a month, can't you, can't you?
	Can you afford £5 a month or you're gonna go spend it on KFC, aren't you?
	Gonna go spend it on KFC.
	That's a projection right there, Harry.
	Don't spend it on KFC, spend it on us instead.
	Get to the chopper!
	Well, I get all my caffeine from, um, from Coke.
	I'm kind of a boomer trapped in a zoomer's body.
	Whereas if I had, you know, broke out the shoe polish that morning, maybe, maybe they'd have gone a bit more leniently on me.
	I did a lot of studying while at university on the effects of various drugs.
	You are capital C Cringe.
	You are capital C Cucked.
	Back in the day when astronomy wasn't sexist. - Sorry, you wanted to learn what pie meant?
	Well, here's what cream pie looks like.
	I imagine Leopatra would have looked something like Stelios.
	I mean... They're good Nazis, it turns out.
	They're fellow Nazis.
	They're Nazis of colour.
	I haven't met my great-great-grandma.
	Actually, have you?
	But don't you want... I've not met your grandmother.
	Breast is usually best.
	Is it at least lesbian porn?
	Even gay chimpanzees are lesbians.
	Gay men, funnily enough, like cock.
	Quite fans of it, it turns out.
	If you need a model of apex masculinity, I give you... me.
	Looking at AI porn, Callum experiences no growth.
	Thank god the sound's off on that one.
	Motherless C-Word from C-Word F-Word.
	How do the sounds suddenly go off?
	Maybe we've got it edited out, but that pretty much covered it.
	So yes, that was the old studio.
	You guys were there for about two years, weren't you?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Two and a half years, something like that.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I don't remember the dates.
	Huge amount of content you threw out on that, but it was very limiting, wasn't it?
	Because it was basically just the one room, office, directly onto a studio, so everybody had to be super quiet whenever anything was being filmed.
	So yeah, very limiting.
	But the Lotus Eaters project, it makes an awful lot of sense to me, because You were basically accessing your audience through a certain big red censorship platform up until that point, and the sort of Damocles were sort of always hanging over you.
	Let's have a look at this Lauren Chen tweet, which kind of makes this point.
	So she works for Blaze TV, That was a channel on this censorship platform that had 1.6 million viewers.
	They mentioned a certain type of person, which is currently particularly popular in Silicon Valley, and the channel was just yeeted.
	Just gone.
	Just like that.
	It just goes to show that in this day and age you cannot rely, unless you want to be an NPC Norman, you cannot rely on these censorship platforms.
	You need to have your own avenue, your own way of reaching people.
	So I thought it would be worth talking about that.
	Because if you are one of those people who access it through a censorship platform, don't be surprised if one day, you know, your favourite content creators aren't just there anymore.
	They could just be gone.
	So it's worth talking about what the alternative options are.
	And for that, I thought we would go behind the keyhole to look at the new studio.
	We have a video for this now.
	Hello!
	So, this is Dan, and I'm going to take us around the new studio of The Lotus Eaters, which is absolutely fantastic.
	So, join me as we have a look around.
	Right, so here we are at my desk, where all the magic happens.
	And let's go and meet the team, shall we?
	Bo!
	How are you, sir?
	Yeah, I'm fine, thanks.
	So, what do you do at Lotus Eaters?
	History-themed content, mainly.
	Oh, good.
	A bit of interviews, bits and bobs.
	And what's your favourite piece of content so far?
	Oh, God.
	Now you're asking.
	My favourite bit of my own content?
	Oh, I don't know.
	There's been so many great ones.
	Right.
	No, I did a conversation with Thomas Dowling.
	He's no longer with us.
	He's not dead.
	Right.
	Oh, OK.
	Connor's laughing about that off-camera.
	About F1, the history of F1.
	I really enjoyed making that.
	I really enjoyed putting the images to it.
	If anyone doesn't know, I sort of do all the images... Cool.
	...in the post-production.
	And of course the ones that I've done with you are pretty good, I hear?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm doing one right now, look.
	Ah, there we go.
	Yeah, there we go.
	There we go, good.
	On Black Wednesday.
	Oh, perfect.
	Yeah, that'll be out soon.
	Perfect.
	Right, okay.
	And let's have a quick chat with Connor.
	Connor, you seem like a smart young man.
	Why aren't you working for the BBC or something?
	I wouldn't be allowed within spitting distance of that communist hellhole.
	OK.
	Now, I also want to speak to Callum, but he's actually always working very hard trying to edit out all the gaffes, so we might have to come back to that one.
	Bye, Josh.
	Hello!
	What do you do for low diseases?
	I do a lot of stuff, and at the minute I'm laughing at you leaning against that window.
	Perfect!
	As you can see I'm working on Contemplations, which is four of the five days I spend I wish.
	Why does this gorilla camera work?
	I'm quite proud of it.
	I have more tabs than I can possibly comprehend open, and it's just a form of managed chaos.
	Now, unfortunately, the boss man is at a Warhammer tournament, so I can't interview him, but you know who Carl is anyway.
	I wish.
	Why is this gorilla camera work?
	I'm quite proud of it.
	How do you see him?
	62 pence for powerland reduced.
	That's good.
	Harry!
	Hello!
	You're looking very bookish at the moment.
	Should I take this?
	Yes.
	Yes, I am.
	It didn't work, did it?
	Thank you.
	And what's with the YMCA book?
	The YMCA?
	This seems like wishful thinking on your part, Dan.
	You do look like you're prowling down Canal Street at the moment.
	Oh, yeah, exactly.
	Now, Rory is not often seen on camera, but he does a lot of writing stuff.
	Hi Rory!
	Tell us about writing on the lotus eaters.
	I very much like writing on the lotus eaters.
	Now, this is a very sensible young man.
	This is Stelios.
	Stelios!
	Hello Dan, how are you?
	Hello, and what do you do at the lotus eaters?
	Well, I do stuff.
	I prepare for segments, I prepare for the symposium series.
	What's symposium all about?
	Well, basically it's a philosophical series where we talk about all sorts of things.
	We don't just have incredibly good-looking people with lots of opinions and who don't actually know anything.
	We also have people who actually know stuff and make everything work.
	like women or things like, I've said we should do one, asimposing one on women. - We don't just have incredibly good looking people with lots of opinions and who don't actually know anything.
	We also have people who actually know stuff and make everything work.
	So let's go and find out about those chaps.
	This is one of our video editing chaps.
	Jack? - Hello. - Jack, what do you do for us here?
	Well, I mainly just help out with video editing for all the premium content.
	The stuff I mainly handle is down for economics, comics corner, stuff like that.
	Trying to make him look as good as possible.
	Did you shove your thumbs in?
	Yeah, I did.
	Possibly.
	I'm not very good at this.
	You boomer'd this, didn't you?
	I quite possibly did.
	- I did.
	- Thomas, what are you working on at the moment? - I'm working on a very special product interview.
	- Ah, excellent, when will that be out?
	Hopefully this week.
	Perfect!
	You dropped something just at the back there.
	Actually, I'll come back to it.
	Now, because we want people to actually watch us, we also have social media with Daisy!
	Hi, Daisy.
	Tell us about yourself.
	My name's Daisy and I do the social media.
	We also need to speak to the most important man in the office who does the payroll.
	Pete.
	Hey, Jan.
	Hi there.
	So, how did you get into the whole Lotus Eaters business?
	Nepotism.
	That's totally true.
	That's totally true.
	Hi, Michael.
	Hello.
	So, how are you?
	And what do you do for the Lotus Eaters?
	Well, my job is to sit in the corner of the room where I can get a great view of everyone.
	No one can see my monitors.
	Yes.
	And so then my second job is just making sure that Carl never looks at my history.
	Right now finally let's go and have a quick look at this new studio although they are actually filming the podcast from Monday at the moment so we're going to have to be super quiet.
	Now John is the man who makes everything out.
	Oh.
	And I can hear you, I'm not here anyway.
	Oh, perfect.
	Hi John.
	Hi.
	There we go, we're back on the big screen.
	John is super important because he makes everything work and he sets everything up, so... Fantastic stuff.
	This was built from scratch.
	Every computer, component from component, from scratch.
	Took a lot of time.
	You can tell the vlog we're also quite... I'm sorry, I just need to do something very quickly.
	Hello, Dan.
	Oh, he walked away.
	Sorry, if you were confused, Dan was at the door filming us for some reason.
	So, one of the other things...
	So, there you go.
	There's behind the scenes at the new studio, um, and if you're confused about the, uh, the reference that Pete made, um, to nepotism, uh, Pete is, uh, Carl's eldest son, he's just turned 21, so, um, happy birthday to Pete!
	He wishes!
	No, Pete's an old friend of mine, and basically I was like, Pete, I need someone to trust, who I can trust to do, like, you know, back-end work, and he needed a job, so, you know.
	Oh, okay.
	Right.
	So let's talk- start talking about, uh, how fantastic The Lotus Eaters is.
	So, um, uh, let me see.
	Am I supposed to click something here?
	Can we go to the... The box.
	The box.
	Where it says next.
	Oh, here we go!
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Say previous.
	Oh, here we go.
	Right.
	So, first things first is you can watch the entire podcast, uh, from the website for free.
	Doesn't cost you anything.
	Um, and you can also go on this live chat thing, um, which is...
	Um, to be honest, it's a little bit below the belt, most of the comments that come up on here.
	They're a bit iffy, but if that's your sort of thing... That is what's funny about it, to be honest.
	Yes.
	And also, you can watch the after show, where you can find out what we really think, because, you know, we need to be a little bit, you know, careful.
	Next image.
	Oh, yes.
	So, if you did want to pay and get access to all the premium content, it is only £5 a month.
	I will point out that that price has been fixed for about two years, and there's been 115% inflation since then.
	And also, because we've now got the new studio, we can do a lot more.
	So, you know, I'm not saying anything.
	I'm just saying that if you're going to sign up, you should probably do it soon.
	And let's talk about some of the fantastic things that we've got going on here.
	So, the book club.
	I just want to point out, when these guys are talking about stuff, they're not pulling it straight out their arse.
	There is a whole series of, you know, deep intellectual work that has gone into, you know, a lot of the takes that come on this stuff.
	So, you know, here you're going to get book reviews from, you know, people like Evola, Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, Burke, Marx, John Stuart Mill, Machiavelli, as well as a whole bunch of modern writers that are put in there.
	Somebody called Naomi Pavarotti, who wrote The Populist Delusions, Animal Farm, Parasitic Minds.
	And it's a hell of a lot easier to watch this channel than it is to sit down and read all of those books.
	Don't I know that as well?
	Yes.
	So, you know, you are going to get a fantastic education from just that section alone.
	Let's go on to the next one.
	Ah, this is probably my personal favourite, is the Contemplation series.
	Now, Josh, he's a proper deep thinker, isn't he?
	I mean, he's an OG of...
	He's got a master's degree in psychology, has a genuine curiosity in lots of different subjects, and so he spends his time just researching them for these contemplations.
	And we did a poll on the YouTube channel a while ago, and he nearly beat you.
	Wow.
	That goes to show how good he is.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So, you know, he's got a background in evolutionary psychology, behavioural economics, Evolution, a whole bunch of other stuff.
	So I mean, you've got stuff on here.
	Human origins, IQ, why women fall for serial killers, deep dives on certain countries, and voting systems.
	So there is a fascinating amount of stuff on there.
	Let's press the button.
	Oh yeah, this is Symposiums.
	So Stelios, now he's a proper thinker, this guy.
	So he's got a PhD in psychology.
	No, philosophy.
	He's a professor at the University of York.
	Yes, yes.
	So he's a proper professor and PhD type person.
	So if you want to get a degree standard education on philosophy, you can either pay £30,000 to go to university, or £300,000 if you're in America, or you can pay £5 a month and watch this series as he goes through all the big concepts in philosophy.
	So I would say that's a pretty big money saving.
	What else have we got?
	Oh, Epochs!
	You're on this one a lot, aren't you Cole?
	I am, yeah.
	It's because I happen to just love history, but I'm not like in any way trained on it.
	Bo's got like two degrees in history and spends all of his day talking about it.
	And so again, this very similar sort of thing to the symposium where it's like, well, this is actually an actual education.
	Oh, it is a proper education.
	I'm personally getting out of this as well, so it's one of my favourites.
	The thing I would say to people is we did not arrive in the modern world that we're in by accident, right?
	And what this series does is it goes back and it looks at a whole bunch of pivotal moments Times and opportunities where things were on a knife edge.
	They could have gone either way.
	And if it had gone the other way, the world would look like a very different place today.
	And this is a series that gets into it and explains why the world is the way it is.
	And also, it talks about a lot of big historical figures.
	People that you really should know about if you want to be a serious person.
	You want to know the figures behind this.
	So that is... I mean, each of these, I think, is worth it on their own merits.
	Yeah, they're all great.
	I'm really proud of them.
	Well, I mean, this is Brokenomics.
	I'm far too modest to say anything about it myself.
	I've heard nothing but good things.
	To be honest, right, I don't know anything about economics, and so I have actually watched almost all of these just to understand, like, gold or inflation or any of these other things that I just don't know because I've never had any kind of economic education at all.
	And there's been nothing but glowing reviews from these.
	Yes, excellent.
	Well, I'm too modest to say all of that myself.
	It's true, though.
	I've heard nothing but good things.
	I'm waiting for someone to come along and be like, uh, Dan doesn't know anything.
	Doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Yeah, I've actually heard... I can't say the name, but a bigwig in one of the big UK financial institutions told me that they use this series to educate their normie friends and relatives on what's going on in the world in finance.
	So, you know, it's got its fans.
	And yes, as you say, it seems to be quite popular, so yes.
	Oh, now this one.
	Hangouts.
	I think this is as close as you're going to get to us chaps down the pub having a chat saying what we really think, because these don't go anywhere near a censorship platform, do they?
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	Rumble and Behind the Paywall.
	Yes.
	So we can actually talk about things frankly.
	Because sometimes, you know, you see down- As you can tell by the topics there.
	Yes.
	Grooming gangs, a timeline, what Missy reveals about London.
	And the ones below that are even spicier.
	But sometimes I see in the comments people say things like, why aren't you talking about this?
	Well, often we actually have talked about those things, we're just not talking about it on the censorship platforms.
	So, you know, that is a wealth of content in itself.
	Um, DeepThinks.
	Now that seems to have fallen by the wayside, that one.
	Is that being replaced by the LiveX?
	No, no, no.
	It's really that they just take a lot of time and there's been a lot going on, but I have another one in the works.
	These are just particularly long pieces that either myself or others do on a particular subject when you've got a deep dive.
	So they don't come out very quickly, but they're well worth it when they do.
	I think they're very good.
	Yeah, yes.
	They are certainly very deep, and cover topics like Warhammer.
	Anybody know anything about that?
	Well, there are other ones!
	Yes.
	No, there is some proper deep thinking that goes in there.
	Premium podcasts.
	I would sort of describe that as topics that are important, worth talking about, that don't necessarily fit into any other category.
	And also possibly stuff that you can't really put on the censorship platforms, if given by those titles there's anything to go by.
	Yes.
	I don't know if this is going on YouTube.
	I actually don't have to censor number three though.
	There we go.
	So Callum will actually have to censor one of the titles of these podcasts just so we can show you this on YouTube.
	Yes.
	And I think I'm on the bottom one.
	And that one came from just we having an interesting conversation in the office and we realized that we were paid to make content.
	So yeah.
	But that was one of my favorite ones actually.
	And did really well, actually, now I look at it.
	Yeah, it did.
	But yeah, just interesting conversations that are just difficult to have when you might be exposed to a hostile audience.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But I mean, the point I'm making is there is a huge amount of, I mean, literally a huge amount of stuff because we were running that other studio.
	I mean, it was three filming slots a day.
	Yeah.
	And quite often every single slot was filled.
	So, you're getting somewhere between three and five, maybe six hours, if we're really pushing it, of new content coming out every working day.
	Right, and now we're in the new studio.
	We've got three studios, once the other two are ready.
	Yep.
	So, the amount of content getting churned out of here for £5, sign up now, I think you should, is absolutely astonishing.
	But we don't even stop there, there's more!
	Uh, TVs, movies and games.
	So where we get into, um, this, this is one that, um, Callum, uh, no, no, Connor and Harry tend to tend to dominate on this one, but you guys, have you guys done any of these?
	Yeah, we've done some media analysis.
	So I mean, I, I, one of the things, uh, like the conversation with George Alexopoulos the other day, Where it's like, conservatives are just far too happy to leave culture to the left, and it's like, but that's crazy.
	Why would you do that?
	And so, conservative media analysis, I think, is very valuable.
	Yeah, and that's what this is.
	It is not just popular culture, it is the popular culture analysed, and it's the underlying message in the media brought front and surface, and then unpicked.
	So I've been thinking about maybe doing one of these myself because I want to do something on an old film called Pleasantville, Tobey Maguire and Reese Witherspoons.
	Now if you remember that's the one that goes back to the 1950s and it's all in black and white.
	I haven't seen it.
	Oh it's fascinating.
	It is basically a boomer deconstruction of the 1950s through the lens of Satanism.
	And it literally is Satanism.
	It's so obvious when you look at it.
	But it's basically a boomer trying to explain why they had to torpedo the perfect world that they were born into.
	That is actually a really interesting topic.
	Yeah.
	And it literally is Satanism.
	I mean, they've got Eve and the tree and the apple and everything.
	Anyway, so loads of stuff on there.
	Loads more stuff coming.
	And what have we got next?
	Written!
	Right, yes.
	So, as if all of that wasn't enough, there's actually a whole load of, um, proper articles on there.
	And a lot of these are voiced as well, so you can listen to anything with the, uh, the little talkie logo.
	The speaker.
	Yes, the speaker logo.
	And there we get into even more depth than even the videos.
	And I think we get some guest writers on as well, don't we?
	Yeah, we've got loads of guest writers who send in articles and we publish them.
	Astonishing amounts of stuff on there.
	Merch.
	We probably need to revamp the merch store.
	Yeah, we do.
	It's just that I'm not... well, everyone's busy.
	No one has the time to work on the merch store.
	But it does need to be done.
	Yes, but that's going to get revamped soon.
	So if you want to get classic merch, this may be your last opportunity to do so, because a revamp of that is definitely coming soon.
	And you can get things like Looters Eaters pillows.
	Um, you can either get a fresh one... I can't see the price on there... Calum Body Pillows.
	Yeah, they're about, they're about, um, 20 quid each.
	Or if you want the one that we've all sat on, um, it does cost a bit more, but those are in the premium section.
	And then finally...
	The other studio, which we will be filling out soon.
	We just need stuff to put on the shelf.
	So, if you have any interesting items that you want to send us that are legal and safe, here is our PO Box address so that you can dispatch us fascinating items.
	Now, what I want for that big shelf in the middle is I want a centrepiece signature thing for Broconomics.
	So send me gold, silver, whatever.
	You know, something... Very clever, this.
	Something, yeah.
	Something that conveys... Something gold.
	Money, yes.
	Send it to that PO Box, marked for my attention, and we will add it on, and we are going to do fantastic things in the new studios.
	Is that fair, guys?
	Oh, totally.
	I can't wait till this new studio is done, because the atmosphere in there is just going to be very different, and we're not going to be on a time limit.
	Because that's one of the problems, like you said, with the old studio.
	You've got an hour and a half.
	You've got to cram everything into this hour and a half.
	Yes.
	Because Beau and I, we really want to do an epic series on the Iliad, right?
	The Iliad being an epic is going to take a long time to talk about, and that's going to require literally hours and hours and hours where we can just sit there and discuss the entire thing.
	So I'd like it to turn out to be six or eight hours or something like that, and we don't have the time to do that with only one studio.
	But with that, we'll literally be able to book an entire day to just sit there and talk about the thing.
	And it might not sound like your cup of tea, but man, I'm totally into it.
	And there are people out there who do like long-form content, and finally we'll be able to do it.
	And that's a horrible photo because the studio looks so much nicer than that photo is letting it on.
	Well, that was done on my phone.
	As you said, I did slightly boomer that whole thing.
	But when we've got the proper lighting on, that's going to be a gorgeous studio.
	Yeah, no, it's fine.
	No, you see, I found exactly the same thing broken up.
	Sometimes I'll be getting into a really interesting conversation with a guest, and then I'll be like, ooh, got to wrap this up because, you know, the studio's booked by somebody else soon.
	So the amount of depth we're going to go into.
	So if you think the amount of content that we have at the moment is epic, you are correct, but it's about to get even more epic-er.
	Right, should we go to the comments?
	Okay, so if you've spoken to me, I'm more than likely at some point in your life just ripped your ear off and told you about the Dojo Wars.
	Well, it looks like we're getting the Social Media Wars, ladies and gentlemen.
	Eventually.
	I mean, it has to start somewhere.
	We're ready to die in the Social Media Wars.
	Hey, I have something to say.
	My money's on Elon Musk, by the way.
	Right, I'm just going to pause it.
	So, you've seen this, right?
	Yeah, but that's Al Gore, isn't it?
	No, it's Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
	Yeah, I thought it was, but that's a picture of Al Gore.
	I don't think it is.
	Oh right, fair enough.
	I think it's Elon Musk.
	Do you need glasses?
	Yes.
	All right.
	What exactly do you make of... I mean, who wasn't like... Well, apparently Zuckerberg, he's been doing a lot of private MMA training.
	Yeah, because he's been posting videos of him, like, kicking pads on Facebook, right?
	And I saw these a couple of years ago thinking, okay, that's good for him, I guess.
	But like, challenging... Who challenged who?
	Did he challenge Elon?
	I assume he challenged Elon.
	Elon wasn't just like, you know what, I'm gonna fight Mark Zuckerberg.
	Yeah, I think Zuckerberg made some sort of comment on WhatsApp about it, like some throwaway comment, and then it got relayed to Elon on Twitter, and Elon was like, immediately, I'm up for that.
	Yes!
	What?
	Who's going to insure this?
	Because the key man insurance on each of those guys has got to be in the billions.
	It's crazy.
	So the insurance companies that are selling the key man insurance to Twitter and Tesla and Facebook, they can't be desperately happy about this.
	But like, from a top Trump sort of style perspective, okay, like, Elon does have the height and the weight on Zuckerberg, so not good.
	And Zuckerberg, I mean, look, everyone looked at him and was like, okay, he's a scrawny nerd, but he's been training.
	But Zuckerberg does have the age, right?
	And the lizard abilities.
	Yeah, and the fact that he's an android.
	Yes.
	So, I mean, who would you place your money on?
	I would go for Elon though, because he's bigger and I like, I think bigger is good.
	Go on Callum.
	Zuck, because he actually knows how to fight.
	Well, Elon said that he'd done some fighting, some training in fighting.
	Yeah, but he's 51.
	Yeah, that's, that's my view.
	That's not that old.
	It's pretty old.
	If you were fighting in your twenties and now you're 51.
	Yeah, but Zuck's 39.
	I mean, he's not, it's not like he's fighting a 25 year old.
	He still trains and keeps in shape.
	I think it's karate or some weird stuff he does.
	Yes.
	No.
	Are you putting your money on Elon?
	Yes.
	Right, okay.
	Your money's on Zuck.
	Yeah, the guy who actually pranked.
	Yeah.
	Honestly, I would probably go for Zuck as well.
	I mean, honestly, I want Elon to win, because Zuckerberg is one of the biggest censors in all of human history.
	And Elon restored my Twitter account.
	But I have to be skeptical and pessimistic.
	Right.
	I think Zuck will be... I mean, Zuck looks faster.
	To be fair, in a fight, it normally comes down to who tires out first, and Elon's a bit podge.
	Yeah, I think Zucker will have that, because if he's training regularly, then Elon hasn't trained since he was young.
	Yeah, that's a big factor.
	51 as well, your stamina's got to be going about that sort of age, even if you train.
	Just saying, I'm thinking that Zuck's going to take it, but I'll tell you what, I would pay to watch that fight.
	What a timeline.
	Yeah, what a timeline, exactly.
	Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are having a boxing match.
	This is going to be good.
	I think it's doing it.
	I have no idea.
	John, you might need to fix it.
	Can't hear any audio.
	Well, it's going to be difficult to address his point then, isn't it?
	Lip-read.
	What do you mean, just agree with him?
	Good point.
	He's a GOAT gay member, agree with him.
	I really wish I could hear it.
	It sounds like he's making a really good point.
	What do you mean, it sounds like he's making it?
	- What do you mean?
	Just agree with him.
	- Good point.
	He's a gold team member, agree with him.
	- All they gotta do is wear their drag outfit or show public displays of affection with their gay partner over there.
	- I really wish I could hear it.
	It sounds like he's making a really good point.
	- Strangely enough, no one's taking me up on that offer.
	- What do you mean?
	It sounds like he's making it.
	- It looks like something.
	- He was set for conviction and a strong draw.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You could see he was like... We don't know what you said, but thanks.
	You're correct.
	Yeah, we'll go and watch it afterwards and probably agree with you.
	Should we bother?
	Because we can't hear anywhere.
	Yeah, if we can't hear any of them, then we won't bother.
	Yeah, maybe save them for another time.
	I have no idea what's happened.
	Anyway, Big Ed says, so great that you can all have big roundtable discussions without now having to practically sit in each other's laps.
	Look forward to what the new studio brings.
	Oh, thank you.
	George says, the first trio show.
	It will be interesting to see how the dynamics work.
	And it worked okay.
	Tom Webster says, this is getting out of hand.
	Now there are three of them.
	Yes.
	A very old reference.
	Lord Nerevar says... Oh no, the early 2000s.
	Yes, 20 years ago!
	Yeah, there it is.
	Yeah.
	Oh no.
	See?
	Old reference.
	Lord Nerevar says, you're probably right about London, at least for now, is just a lost cause.
	We should probably be turning our attentions from reclamation to containment and don't let it spread any further.
	It's way too late.
	It's way too late.
	The Londonization of the rest of England is happening already at a remarkable pace.
	Miles says, the London Mayor should be a cabinet seat so the capital city is represented by the ruling party.
	Well, just a bullshit.
	La Frenchie Sexual says, I for one am enjoying the fall of London.
	Yeah, I bet you are.
	Charlie says, regarding London, do any of you think that people living in Labour-run hellhole cities are as likely to do as they are in California and leave for the shires, bringing their insidious politics with them?
	Yes.
	The thing with London is a little bit different because you can live outside it and then just commute in.
	England is a smaller country.
	So, like, Winchester Station, first thing in the morning, it's just, like, full of people going to London.
	Yeah.
	And, I mean, it's not... I mean, it's all over... Basically, anywhere within a 30-mile radius of London is just full of commuters.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	To be fair as well, if you're a proper rich leftist, you can afford to live in Central.
	Yeah.
	At which point, what do you care?
	Yeah, but even in Central London, it is decaying, even the nice bits.
	Because even... I mean, like, around the corner of Paris.
	Even Buckingham Palace is only something like 200 metres from the nearest council estate.
	So...
	There's something about that, isn't there?
	Yeah.
	That even the Queen has to look at the accounts of the state.
	Yeah.
	The social housing for migrants.
	Tom says, describing the UK and London as economic zones is genius, as it describes exactly the position we've arrived at due to 25 years of mass immigration.
	Nurseries who will pack up and leave their economy are collapsed, leaving the indigenous English, Scots and Welsh to pick up the pieces.
	Well, we talked about this when we were in London last time.
	I was like, how many of these people do you think would fight if their town was invaded, if their area of London was invaded?
	Melbourne.
	Yeah, they get on planes and flee.
	Why wouldn't you?
	Exactly.
	I'm black, I can't fight for you.
	Why would we even fight for them?
	Well, that's the question, isn't it?
	Well, it's a bit like that incident that caused a bit of a fuss where a building got caught on fire, and basically the chap, he packed his bags, he knocked on his neighbour's door and said, oh, by the way, my fridge is on fire, you might want to evacuate the building, and then he just left.
	You know, he had no real connection to his home.
	And then the whole tower went up.
	I kind of like that.
	That wasn't meant to be a joke, but... No, it's like one of those tech nerds who's just like, you know, oh, oh well, and just leaves.
	Yeah.
	So the whole building burns behind him, he's like, well, I've got somewhere to go.
	But that's literally what they think.
	Like, they just don't care.
	They're just, you know, if the Germans invaded tomorrow, they'd be like, oh, well, I'd better leave.
	It's like, why are they here in the first place?
	Anyway, Charlie says, this gynosexual NPC is not just a rebranding of Super Straight.
	No, it is not a rebranding of Super Straight, actually, because as we discussed, you can be a man attracted to a trap and call yourself gynosexual, even though it's a man in a dress.
	Brave new world.
	Andrew says, so wait, what's the difference between femsexual and gynosexual, given the gynecologists deal with?
	I would have to assume the latter is more with the physical hardware of women, if you follow.
	Honestly, who knows?
	Jesus Christ, who knows?
	What you would hope is that, wouldn't you?
	Because you want a real one.
	Um, well, no, cause the thing is, like, if you can't get up, if we got the, the fem sexual definition, there is actually a kind of an out where they are essentially like separating the thing from its essence and saying, well, you're attracted to the thing and not necessarily the essence.
	So they are trying to make sure that it's not just, uh, something that's locked in.
	Cause the whole point of this is to essentially make it so that nothing is permanent.
	Yes.
	And we definitely need a word for men who are attracted to primarily Nordic, Asian or Mediterranean women between the ages of 17 and 23.
	Or Med Supremacy.
	Just an advert.
	Grant says, I love Karl explaining this to Callum.
	I had the stupidest conversation with a person on Reddit who was a stay-at-home mum, like literally the most historically woman thing in the history of things, and she identified as non-binary.
	I asked if she tried to look non-binary, like short hair, loose clothes.
	Nope.
	Just a woman pretending to be a woman and calling herself an it.
	Yes.
	That's somebody who shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
	Yeah.
	Screwtape Laser says, I just want to say congratulations to Carl and the team.
	It's so hard to grow a small business and we are grateful for the risk you took in all of this.
	Well, thank you.
	And you know, it didn't feel like a risk.
	What, spending a kilo obviously is money or?
	Yeah, it didn't feel like a risk.
	No, that was fun.
	To be fair, it was kind of de-risky, wasn't it?
	Because when all your eggs are in the censorship basket platform, you kind of have to.
	Well, yeah.
	It felt like a risk just staying on YouTube and just relying on them.
	Oh, yeah.
	That felt like a risk.
	Well, I mean, if you were.
	Especially in 2019.
	Yeah.
	Andrew says, wonderful to see all the people working behind the scenes.
	Very thankful for the work you put in.
	I just want to be clear, right?
	I didn't want Dan to do that segment.
	Well, that's why I did it while you weren't here.
	I thought that would be too self-indulgent, but fine.
	No, no, no.
	Self-promotion is always a good thing.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, I take your word for it.
	I'm not a businessman.
	Hammurabi says it blows my mind that we're already nearly at 700 daily episodes.
	My coverage of 2016 feels like so long ago but also so recent.
	Remember when we thought Trump and Boris' victories marked a coming in for the culture war?
	God, how naive were we back in 2016, man.
	Oh look, we could win!
	Back when we thought that politics was getting our guy in.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And everyone thought that.
	It was just like, yeah.
	Things are so different now.
	I've been listening to the start, and you all have helped so much in keeping my sanity together during the daily grind.
	Well, thank you very much.
	Joan of Arc says, Dan, bombering the tech.
	You boomered the word boomer there, Joan.
	Just so you know.
	But you are right here.
	And also, nice to put some more faces to the names, which is good.
	Grant says, good sales job, Dan.
	I think I'm going to upgrade to silver.
	Well done, Dan.
	SA Silver says, the long project of liberalism.
	Carl, you disappoint me even more that you cede liberalism to the illiberal.
	Tell me, when has anyone ever voted for the managerial state and how does a technocrat state get to claim liberalism when it forces values onto us?
	That's a very, very big conversation to have, which I will do a podcast explaining, but I can't explain to you now.
	But basically, very, very swiftly, it comes to what liberalism assumes and what it puts into action.
	Because what you're thinking about is the sort of limited political liberalism, but that is predicated on the idea that there must be another value system Other than liberalism, acting in tandem with liberalism, and when that's taken away, when you're left with liberalism, you end up with the universal managerial state where every single piece is interchangeable and there are no differences between people in the fundamentals.
	When I say liberalism, that's the problem with liberalism.
	Yes.
	Strips away notions of people and place and heritage entirely.
	Yes, particularities.
	They are literally subtracted.
	And so when liberalism is left to just be itself, well that's what you get.
	And then you get like the arch-managerial state that has no issue with doing that, because why wouldn't you do that?
	Sorry, I've been flipping through because I didn't know how much time we had left.
	John Lewis says, being gynosexual is a bit like being a stamp collector.
	It doesn't matter who or what you are, you just have to share a common interest.
	This is either revolutionary or very, very silly.
	Well, it's revolutionary, but the revolution is in the subtlety of it.
	The fact that it's disconnecting the sexuality from people, which is Honestly, it's hard to explain to people who are outside of this just how diabolical this is.
	It doesn't sound diabolical, but that's because you have a network of thick concepts to rely on that you just didn't think about, but when they're gone, this is going to seem like That people aren't going to believe it.
	In the same way that, like, you know, people didn't believe that... People have trouble believing that there was a sincere belief that, like, Zeus was causing the Greeks to go to war with the Trojans.
	Like, that was a sincere belief that people actually held to explain the universe.
	I just remember in the early 2000s, speaking to people who were then doing their sort of GCSEs and A-levels, and looking at some of the stuff that they were being taught back then.
	This was in the early years of the Blair era.
	And they were blatantly being given the new propaganda, given the new leftoid way of thinking.
	And at the time I'm thinking, what's going to happen when these people enter media jobs and teaching jobs and positions of responsibility, which is exactly now what's happened.
	And so I'm well aware that this kind of thinking, and when it starts off softly and it just continually ramps up, it's that upward sloping parabolic curve.
	And the madness is just, it's just going to accelerate from here, isn't it?
	Because each madness is built on existing madness.
	But it's not just that.
	It's also what we're depriving ourselves of.
	Um, so I, I, I did an interview with the Williams Fox yesterday and I was trying to explain that, like the, the quality of our thoughts has been diminished from people a hundred years ago because they had a much richer vocabulary in which to express what they were trying to think of.
	And the fact that they possessed the vocabulary also meant that they had And understanding that outside of this particular thought were a series of other things that maybe I should be paying attention to.
	And so if that attention is cut off, then you don't even see the extra layers of reality that you no longer have a language to identify with.
	Right?
	And so if you go back and read something from 100 years ago, it's much richer, it's much more complex language, and it expresses more detailed thoughts in that language.
	And we just don't do that.
	Read something that's been written this year or last year, and it's not that the person is more stupid, it is that they are just more narrowly confined in what they can describe.
	I'm telling you, I'm going to do the thing about it properly.
	To really flesh it out.
	But it's crystal clear to me in this.
	I mean, fundamentally, language is all a process of taking a complex series of thoughts in your mind, compressing it into an audio stream in a way that you can then transmit to somebody else, which will hopefully unpack in their mind into another complex series of thoughts.
	So if you throttle the bandwidth which that language is allowed to, the tube that that language is allowed to go through, you cannot communicate such complicated thoughts to somebody else's mind.
	Yes.
	So their mind space is limited.
	Yes.
	So it is basically anti-enlightenment.
	Because what you're describing before is a period where people commonly read and expressed, and read significantly more than they do now, which is why it's worth signing up to the Lotus Eaters and getting all of that complex thought decompressed for you.
	But they had all of these more complicated ideas that filled their mental space, so that it was conducive to generating new ideas.
	But this new world... And it's also just descriptions and understanding of reality.
	But there are nuances to reality that are hidden if you can't see the relational nature of what it is to be a human.
	And that's what's being, the ability to be able to identify the relationships between these things and the content of those relationships is going to be really damaging.
	It's just going to, it's going to make people not, again, not stupid, just ignorant.
	But anyway, I think we're running out of time there.
	Hmm.
	So yes.
	I didn't want to interrupt, but they already don't believe.
	Middle you were saying, what's going to happen when people look back at this and think it's all madness?
	Yeah, they do.
	I mean, I've told you about in Russia, they honestly think all this doesn't exist.
	They assume it's Kremlin lies.
	Well, the West is really bad.
	Why?
	Because they believe in cat gender and blah, blah, blah.
	And they look at that and go, well, that's obviously not true.
	I've been lied to so many times.
	Yeah.
	And then when you meet them and they're laughing and they go, come on, that's not real, is it?
	And you go, well, here's the article.
	Yeah.
	This is the person's social media account.
	Well, and it's not just them, like Naomi Park or whatever, she's a North Korean refugee, came to the US, gets the typical American anti-communist theory in her head, they explained to her because she's integrating, and now she's a star on like right-wing podcasts and stuff because she goes on and will just be like, This is more retarded than what I was taught.
	Like, this is more narrow-minded than what I was taught.
	There was another, there was a Chinese woman who, I saw a clip of her going around recently, where she was like, well, you've brought communism here.
	Like, this is communism, what you're doing right now.
	And this is what I fled from in China.
	And it's just like, okay, well, maybe we didn't win the Cold War, you know?
	Anyway, if you'd like more from us, go to the website.
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