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June 26, 2023 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #683
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Hello and welcome to the podcast Lotus Eaters episode number 683.
I'm Harry, joined by Callum.
We're guessing that it's starting on him.
I guess we've done the intro right.
I've got fingers crossed.
It'll be alright.
John had something to say.
John said mm in my ear.
But what are we going to talk about today, Callum?
Today?
Ooh, topics.
Things?
Are there things that have happened recently?
Yeah, we're going to talk about Bartner doing a thing, a thing that he did the weekend, which was Australia's aboriginal shakedown referendum, and alien nationalism has me hyped.
Does it?
Exciting.
John, I can hear you in my ear.
I already know what to do for the last one, so I thought we'd just do something silly.
That's kind of a trend with us, isn't it?
Callum couldn't think of something to do, so we thought we'd do something dumb.
I don't know about anyone else, but I was just kind of staring at Wagner all weekend and being like, ooh.
So how's this going?
Everyone have time for anything else?
But anyway, let's begin, I suppose.
I don't know if you can turn off your mic, though, John, because we can hear everything.
Yeah, John, we can hear the background noise in our ear.
I don't know if John can even hear us.
Oh wait, there we go.
That's better.
Alright, let's begin.
So Wagner did a thing on the weekend, you may have noticed.
Those guys, those wacky Russians are at it again.
Just doing Russian politics, which is incomprehensible stuff, and then God knows what happens at the end of it.
We'll find out in 10 years.
There were many memes over the weekend, but the one that I most identified with was the bell curve, where in the middle was the man explaining in really autistic detail everything that's going on in Russia, and on either end of the bell curve was the Grug and the Incredible Genius saying, I have no clue what's going on.
Yeah, basically.
One of those ends is me, you decide whether it's Grug or Genius.
So, before we get into this, I do want to just give probably the top end of that bell curve being a picture of Peter Hitchens, because he's spoken about this before.
Russian politics, as he described it, which I think is accurate, is two dogs barking under a carpet, you have no idea what's going on, you don't know who's fighting, who's going to win, until one dog walks alive out onto the carpet and the other one's dead.
Makes sense to me.
Anyway, we'll start off by promoting something on lewis's.com being White Feminist Immigration Policy will save the West.
Because, I don't know, if you want to save some of the not-Russia, you know, where we live instead, this would be the way to do it, which is women only.
Simple as.
Anyway, this is what happened over the weekend.
I'm sure people saw.
Elon Musk tweeting, for example, how girls sleep and boys, they don't.
They're monitoring the situation with the Wagner group.
Sorry, there is a camera in the direct view of this meme.
You'll be one of those audio listeners today where I describe the meme to you instead.
But I've actually been to Russia and Donbass, so I feel like I've got some ability to give some kind of insight.
You've probably got better context than most people do.
Yeah, I wasn't going to make a video about this because there are many people out there who are better than me on this topic.
There are many people who know more.
I'm probably going to fail in some ways.
But then I looked at most of the commentary on this online that I saw, and overwhelmingly it's people being like, that's it.
Putin's finished now.
Well, that's it.
Putin's destroying everything.
Okay, right.
So, like, pro-Ukrainian or pro-Moscow, just straight up, everything is fine on either side here.
Well, once again, when you look at me, just imagine Grug saying, I have no clue what's going on, so I'll just nod along and assume that you're right.
I'll try and explain what I know to be true, and then that's it, really.
Yeah, that works for me.
I think is the best to do.
Anyone sitting here speculating on everything I think is not being real, such as Slide to the left!
- To the left, such as these people here.
- Slide to the left.
- I don't have wheels.
- Keep going to the left.
- You're after a crisscross, Jon?
I don't care.
Whatever.
Anyway, so you can see these guys here, for example... I hate this studio so much.
You can see these guys here, for example... It's not that bad.
...saying that, you know, before they're Wagner freedom fighters when they're doing a coup, but immediately after the coup ends, a bunch of terrorists.
And it's just like, okay, you're just opportunistic in your propaganda.
That's all that's going on.
Lauren Chang correctly pointing that out.
Well, I mean, I think I've seen Terror Alarm.
I think I follow them.
They just seem like a completely ridiculous account.
Yeah, but a lot of people were like this, and I saw it wasn't just them that are the best example, just to demonstrate it.
Point being, a lot of people are just being opportunistically propagandist about this.
This is what I mean.
And, well, we're just going to go through the data, just what happens.
And then, meh, I don't know what happens.
There's the outcome.
It's hard to tell at this point.
And anyone who does know is lying.
So to start off, so about 1am on Friday, I was out and about and saw this pop up on my timeline.
You can see multiple accounts showing this footage of a gun battle between Wagner and units of the Russian MOD, and they geolocated it to Rostov-on-Don.
What happened is, the first thing is that Wagner turned up in Rostov-on-Don.
Apparently the FSB just let them through.
Who knows?
Alright.
The FSB are the secret intelligence of Russia.
Okay, alright.
And they just took control of the southern military district, the capital there.
So they just strolled in and said, we're in charge now.
This is ours.
All right.
Give me that for free.
Makes sense.
Have fun.
And then a helicopter turned up shooting at them, and then they shot down the helicopter, apparently.
So there's that.
Most people assumed immediately that this was a coup.
That was the word being used in English language media about this whole thing.
With Bragozin, the guy who's leading Wagner, saying that he was declaring war on the Ministry of Defense.
Which is a pretty big statement.
Why would he do this?
Within the context of this, did anybody theorise why exactly he would have just decided to throw a coup right now?
Would it just be because Russia's in the middle of this giant battle, this war, there's turmoil, Putin might be vulnerable?
Well, we'll see as we go forward.
So his main goal, as stated, was to reform Russian military leadership, not Putin.
So this guy called Shogun, who's in charge of the Russian military.
Basically, Wagner and Prokhorin specifically as the speaker, he spends all his time whining about them.
They're just like, you're crap, you don't know what you're doing, friendly fire incidents, blah, blah, blah.
We'll start off just by trying to explain for anyone who doesn't know what Wagner is.
So Wagner is a mercenary group.
It's Chivokir Vagner in Russian, or PMC Wagner.
Private Military Company.
Yep.
Obviously kind of taking the piss out of the West.
I knew that.
Yeah.
But I love the idea that when it started, everyone was like, this isn't a real private military company.
You guys work for the Kremlin.
I was like, isn't that what PMCs tend to do?
What did you think Blackrock were doing?
Sorry, not Blackrock.
I'm going to say Meriwether though, but I'm pretty sure it's from Payday 2.
Forget the damn name!
Oh, I know who you're talking about.
The guys in Iraq, we all remember.
Well, we don't know the names, but... Anyway, you've got Chibokov Ogne here.
This is him in Bakhmut, where they put up their flag.
They claim responsibility for most of the movement in Bakhmut, which is some city in Ukraine, which the guys have been able to take that.
And they're showing off, and you can see Prigozhin in the middle.
One thing I was aware of was there was a lot of varying reports going on over whether Russia had taken Bakhmut, whether Ukraine had maintained and kept Bakhmut.
We have taken a balcony.
Yeah, there was a lot of talk about particular balconies.
There was also talk over whether it was actually strategically important or whether it was just a place where Ukrainians could funnel Russians into some kind of shooting gallery.
Once again, as with everything, this is very confusing.
Seems that all of the people who can talk very confidently on this actually had no idea what they were talking about.
So, you can see these guys here, they became like the heroes of Backmoon because, of course, there's the Ukrainians and Russians both fighting about it, as you mentioned.
Massive propaganda campaign on both sides.
And, um, yeah, who goes in there, again, taking the glory of like, haha, we liberated this.
This made him, not just this event, but a lot of other stuff, somewhat of a folk hero in Donbass, at least when I was there.
Like, you can go and buy Wagner branded cola.
You can get Wagner branded whatever the hell you want, really.
Is it just the same things that they already had there before, but just with Wagner?
Like, stuck on it?
Kind of, yeah.
But it's kind of a meme.
I mean, like, there's Wagner music, which is...
Regardless of your view on the war, it's really good music.
It really hits.
I mean, I'm a fan of Flight of the Valkyries, but... Yeah, I mean, they use that an awful lot.
I would imagine so.
We'll have to sit down and listen to some of it sometime.
But most of it's been deleted off YouTube because, well, according to YouTube, they're to be treated as a... I think the wording is Violent Criminal Organization, according to YouTube's Terms of Service.
So that's that.
That's why you won't be able to find so much of the music anymore.
But anyway, that's what they were.
They were the heroes of Backwoods taking over the place.
Whenever else you saw Brigozino, he was looking like this, where he was shouting at a camera, being like, the Ministry of Defense, specifically Shogun, is crap.
You guys are not giving us ammo.
You guys are shooting at us, you idiots.
You know, blah, blah, blah.
That would be quite frustrating.
Once again, one of the main things I've seen is just from meme culture is that everybody pointing out that he looks a bit like a Russian version of Mike from Breaking Bad.
That is all kind of true.
We had everything going for us, Putin, until you and your ego.
Walter.
Walter Puccia.
But the point is, that's usually what he's doing.
And then all of a sudden he was, you know, we wake up and he's taking Rostov-on-Don, which is right next to Donbass, the biggest city in the regional capital there.
Overtaking the military district, that's people reporting.
And you can see here, people listening, tanks covered in red zeds, not the usual white ones.
And then Wagner troops turning up and they took control of the place, which was... So do the red zeds signify something different than the white zeds?
I don't really think so.
I think it's really just a... I haven't seen them before, though.
Oh, is it just a colour choice?
Like I say, someone probably knows better than me if it's a new symbol, because usually it's always the white ones.
But, okay.
Maybe the red is now Wagner, maybe it's not.
I don't know.
I'm just saying it's a unique aspect there.
And also, Rostamon Dom, when I was moving around there, you could tell that Wagner were also quite... I'm sorry, I just need to do something very quickly.
Hello, Dan.
Oh, he walked away.
Sorry, if you were confused, Dan was at the door filming us for some reason.
So one of the other things is also you can find Wagner recruitment posters all over Russia, at least before this when I was there, and especially in Rostov-on-Don they were like...
You don't have like a tree that would just be covered in posters and like take a number so you can call them up.
Oh, okay.
Certainly something.
And again, you can buy Wagner branded stuff in mainland Russia as well as Donbass.
But here's the imagery.
Everyone got a bit worried.
We're like, how's this going on?
And then afterwards, the Wagner guys started moving towards, I'm going to pronounce it wrong, Voroshin, which is the main city in between Moscow and Rostov-on-Don.
Because you can't just drive to Moscow in an hour.
It takes quite a while.
Big country.
From what I've seen on the map, it's not too small.
Yeah.
I'll just remind you.
Do you remember when Kamala Harris tried to describe the Ukraine-Russia conflict?
Big country attacks small country.
Yeah, I did hear that.
I remember that.
That was quite spectacular.
But... I don't know about you, but I looked at the news and went, okay, they've taken over regional capital and then they're moving towards Moscow.
To do what, exactly?
What are you expecting?
Like you turn up in Moscow, ring a bell, and okay, I'm president now.
I'm in charge now!
Yeah, this was the narrative.
Unfurl the banners, boys!
This is what most English language responses were.
They were kind of treating it as though if this guy shows up at the doorstep of the Kremlin and says to Putin, I'm in charge now, all of a sudden liberal democracy has won, Western government has achieved its final goal of taking over the East, Francis Fukuyama drops from the sky and says, history over.
Yeah, I mean, I did find it hilarious.
A lot of people were acting like, oh, you know, if McGrosin takes over, then Russia are the good guys now.
I was like, that's how... Yeah, Russia suddenly just becomes another Western liberalized democracy.
The pride flags will be there waiting.
That's what he was doing.
He was transporting all the pride flags to the Kremlin.
But I think the only aspect of that that's interesting is obviously anyone who was tweeting like that at the time is not a serious person.
Like, just sincerely.
And there were quite a lot of them, and I'm annoyed at how many were in my timeline, but there's that.
My timeline was full of it, and I just thought to myself... It wasn't just me then.
No, no, I just... I looked at it and went, I've got no idea what's going on.
Why would I comment on this?
So I'm going to call this city that we're moving to Middle City from now on, because I'm...
So, they ended up turning up there, you can see in the middle there.
There we go, middle city.
And then everyone being like, well, the plan, just drive to Moscow.
And then trucking to Moscow, toy four victory, I presume.
But you can see here, they also decided to seize an airfield around the middle city.
And I was like, what are you guys doing exactly?
So this is just them transporting Yeah, these are anti-aircraft conditions there.
And then, all of a sudden, some civilian was filming at the airport, and one of the fuel depots just explodes.
Okay.
Okay, this is looking a bit more serious.
Yep.
And then the helicopter that shot it was also blown up out of the sky by Wagner, which Okay.
Okay, this all seems to be escalating.
This is going to get out of control, maybe.
And then there were airstrikes on the Wagner convoy moving towards Moscow.
Okay.
And these airstrikes were from the Russians?
The Ministry of Defence, presumably.
All right.
Unless, I don't know, some other PMC is operating that we don't know about.
PMC on PMC Violets over here.
There's that.
And then a command plane was shot out of the sky, reportedly, with like 10 people on.
Now thankfully that seems to be the extent of Russian blood that has been spilled.
Alright.
So that's good news.
No more dead people.
So there's that.
So maybe a dozen people.
Yeah.
Which still, not a great day for the Russians I imagine.
I mean I know it's only a dozen, but still.
You have fighting now in your own territory in the middle of a war.
Strange.
Strange events.
Putin then gave a speech.
You can go and listen to his speech in your own time.
I'm just going to put up a picture.
It wasn't very detailed.
It was largely just, these guys are a bunch of traitors.
Shouldn't do this.
We're at war.
We need unity.
Blah, blah, blah.
And what else are you going to do?
The point being, he sided with... not Wagner.
He sided against the people who were supposedly throwing a coup against him?
Yeah.
Big shock.
After that, the FSB decided that they were going to investigate Purgosian for criminal activity.
Seems to be putting it lightly, but okay.
Alright.
They then started putting up roadblocks on the way to Moscow to try and slow them down, or at least someone did.
They were putting large trucks to try and stop the convoy.
This is a very poor effort at roadblocks, seeing as most of those trucks seem to be parked off of the road.
Well, they've been pushed out of the way by the tanks.
I suppose so, yeah.
Because, I mean, I don't care how good your roadblocks are.
If the other guy's got tanks, your truck ain't gonna do much.
Yeah.
So, there's that.
Also, Huh?
Where is this going exactly?
Like, are we going to see Battle of Moscow 2?
That's what most people were wondering.
And as you can see here, this guy decided to put out some more details, but if you scroll down on this one, I believe there is a picture in which there are machine gun positions being put up around Moscow as well, which is jolly good.
That's normal things.
All right.
So then everyone was pretty worried because, well, as you can see in this picture here, 30 minutes Um, towards Moscow now.
And, uh, the convoy goes on for 30 minutes.
Sorry.
That's what this guy's saying.
So you sit and the guy's filming for 30 straight minutes of just truck after truck after truck.
Keeping on going.
Some with tanks, some full of guys, some full of equipment, some full of SAM sites.
Okay, cool.
Why, exactly?
Who's going to do what?
And everyone was quite hyped.
I mean, in fact, this is what I saw in most circles, how you would just, you know... Who are you rooting for?
Yeah, normal people were mostly just sharing memes, because, I mean, what can you do?
And you can choose your faction in the next Russian Civil War, is what most people... Can we click on this?
Can we find out who ours is?
Do you want me to?
I don't know if I want to, but you can try.
I think it's a gif, so it might not work.
No, it's not working.
Damn.
I guess you'll just have... You at home decide which faction we belong to.
There is a friend of mine who was playing this game, and he just got Putin's government, and he was like, I left bets.
I was like, all right, bro.
That's your world.
But there we are.
Then all of a sudden, it just ended.
Just never mind.
Battle of Moscow cancelled.
Go home, boys.
Prokozhin just gives an announcement that, I don't know, we've reached a deal.
All good.
Gone home.
Jesse broke the deal between Mike and Walt.
All is good.
Yeah.
Thank you, Jesse.
Cheers.
Obviously this confused everyone because why exactly?
Was it a coup?
Did he not have enough power?
Was it not a coup?
What's going to happen in the future if it was an intended coup that's just failed or just been thrown to the side?
Or was it just a rebellion?
Was it a bit of a temper tantrum?
Was it just please stop shooting my own guys because he's been complaining about friendly fire?
Who knows?
And we don't know.
Nobody knows.
That's kind of the point.
But we do know some facts.
I mean, it might have been this.
I'm just saying.
On second thoughts, let's not go to Moscow.
It's a silly place, which I could see.
But Prokhozhin was now apparently relocated to Belarus, along with Wagner.
That was the terms of the deal that seems to have been brokered, at least what people are saying is the deal that has been brokered.
Now, a lot of people are obviously mapping it, and they'll be like, aha, what if it's 40 chests to invade Kiev?
I don't know.
Maybe in two months we'll see some invasion.
Yeah, I was going to say, the only thing that I have seen that's remotely plausible to me, that I saw people suggesting, was that it was some kind of... I don't know how smart the Russians are, so I don't know how plausible this is.
Perhaps you can tell me if this sounds plausible.
It was some kind of 4D chess move to, one, confuse the Western side, and two, root out any potential traitors on the Russian side.
Well, I guess... Maybe!
Maybe!
There we go!
I mean, that's the thing.
The thing about Russian politics, as I mentioned at the start, Peter Hitchens is right.
It's two dogs barking under a carpet.
I don't know what the hell's going on.
Maybe one dog teams up with a cat, and they trick them into thinking the dog and the cat are fighting, and the other dog lets its guard down.
But who knows?
Because we don't get to see any of it.
The people involved may not even know really who got the power and what's going on anymore.
The people I've met who are Russian nationalists, working in Russian politics,
knew very little about their own system in the sense of oh really we don't really know who even has power well because it's such a that sounds quite a lot like over here to a certain extent yeah i mean there was a guy i met for example in rostov who explained i mean this is probably true of you in the west as well and i was like no it's not we know that hang on wait do you really believe that rishi sunak's in charge does this trust really have control of the country is she really for no obviously not so the idea that yeah we don't really know who's in power or anything i mean that's not foreign to us either so that's it's not an unusual thing
The details we did find out was that the charges against Purgosian for criminal activity were completely dropped.
Okay.
Alright.
He's done nothing wrong now, I guess.
So either it was some 4D chess or he's just too useful if he is still an ally to do any action against.
Any suggestion either of us throw is just going, maybe.
There's a reason I'm doing that.
It's not just to be like, oh, I don't know.
No, it's true.
It's because if I told you, oh, I'd be lying.
Yeah, exactly.
There are people in Russian language media and people in English language media who are like, yeah, this is definitely it.
No, you don't know.
Stop.
This is like when that bridge, the dam got blown up on the Russian-Ukrainian frontline.
Yeah, there was the intentional self-destruction of that truck.
Yeah, and everyone's blaming each other, being like, oh, the other side did it.
And it's like, who has any evidence?
Nobody.
All right, well...
What are we doing?
Wait, we're taking a side on this then?
Have we considered it was aliens?
Maybe.
Like I said at the time, for people who don't know why I said at the time, it might even just be that that bridge hasn't had any maintenance because guess what?
It's on the front line and it's been shelled with artillery.
And do you really want to go down and fix the bridge while the other guys are pointing guns at you?
I thought the thing with the bridge that was somebody in a truck was sent and it blew up.
I don't believe I've seen any evidence of that yet.
Maybe I'm out of the loop.
Maybe there is some.
Fair play.
Well, once again, I'm not going to act like I'm any expert on this.
But the point being, Putin's still in charge.
That's not changed.
The people who I know who are pro-Putin in Moscow seem to be...
Not the happiest, but not unhappy either.
They just resorted me to being like, well, that was weird.
I guess everything's back to normal.
I'm like, yeah, bro, I thought it was weird too.
And then the guys that I met who are more friendly to Wagner seem fairly okay with the situation.
They're like, well, you know.
Our guys are still safe.
The biggest complaint seemed to be, or a rumor, is that Wagner was going to be shut down by the Russian MoD.
So this theory goes that that's why this happened.
It wasn't a coup.
It was instead, oi, take us seriously.
But again, I don't know.
This is just theory.
But we'll find out in the coming days, I suppose.
As I mentioned on the Wagner side, that was the theory there.
But obviously, this doesn't really have a nice, neat end, a nice, neat narrative.
Things don't usually, so especially in Russia.
Nothing ever does, especially war.
No, but I do have to mention, which is that people did notice, I mean, Wagner are kind of celebrities and well...
You can see in this picture here, this is a guy taking a selfie with Prigozhin, I believe, and Rostov.
And when they were told to leave Rostov, the Wagner guys, after everything had settled down, there were people coming out, giving them drinks and food and shaking their hands and taking pictures and clapping them.
It was all very folk hero-esque, which is the same thing I saw in Donbass.
I mean, I'm not having an opinion on the situation, it's just what the opinion seems to be of the locals towards these people.
One of the things there is that I saw a lot of accounts being like, this is evidence.
But they assumed that the support for Wagner was some kind of anti-Putin sentiment, at least from the Ukrainian accounts I saw.
That's why they were calling him Freedom Fighters and etc.
Because opportunistic moment to say a thing you don't know about.
So I don't think it's that.
I think genuinely they just see Wagner as folk heroes because I mean, is their aesthetics really cool?
Is all I'm going to put it down to, frankly?
I think that's really true.
I think aesthetics has a lot more to do with everything than most people put it down as.
Yeah, I mean, if you're living in the Western world right now, if you see anything about Wagner, especially in mainstream media, but even on social media, usually what you'll see is, you know, they're war criminals or terrorists or so forth.
I mean, they're declared terrorists in the EU, for example.
They are a terrorist organization for the EU.
But not in the UK, because of Brexit.
But the point being that if you're a Russian living in Rostov or Donbass or something, you might see some warfare stuff, of course.
You won't have the Western stuff, but you will mostly see, at least from what I saw, the music, for example.
The music videos, the memes, the You know, Ride of the Valkyries playing and then a bunch of Russian guys coming in to save the day.
And that's the imagery that counts for a lot.
Yeah, I don't think it's nothing.
Anyway.
Streetsweeper over here has become an international hero overnight in the Russian world and English-speaking world that's following this because he just came out and went, um, no, everything's going to plan.
Just trust the plan, bro.
This Streetsweeper knows what's up.
All of the political commentators on Twitter, even us right now, this Streetsweeper, he just knows far more.
We should get this guy on.
But he became a meme overnight as well.
It's just everyone's like, yeah, bro, trust the plan.
There is a plan.
We don't know what it is, but there is one.
He's Putin's top guy.
It's like Alfarius or whatever.
Just like he really is Putin's top guy.
Look, he's even making it look nice.
Whoa, Putin needs me.
Belarus came out and had some good fun as well.
You can see the Belarusian Ministry of Foreign Affairs tweeting out to Elon Musk.
Thankfully, thanks to President Lukashenko, boys can finally get some sleep too.
Hey, scroll down so we can see the full meme, please.
It's just the old meme of... How do boys sleep?
Boys no sleep.
And now... Oh, that one again.
Oh, OK.
So there's that.
Anyway, everything seems to have gone back to before.
We'll see if there's some major impact in the long term in regards to this.
I don't know.
Nobody knows.
That's the fact.
Do you know?
Probably not.
Maybe you trust the plan.
Maybe this was a coup.
Make up your own fantasy of what actually happened.
I'll trust the plan.
But the point being, Wagner seemed to have moved to Belarus, so there's that.
That's a thing that's happened.
This has shocked Russian Media and the population, significantly.
I did see someone going through the papers this morning and just explaining what was said there, and overwhelmingly all the commentators from pro-Putin are all like, huh.
Didn't expect that.
No clue.
Yeah, this was really odd.
Like, does this show that we're really vulnerable?
I mean, one of the pro-Putin outlets described it as proof that the system is stronger than ever, because we were able to repel this.
It's like, we were even able to repel ourselves, which is Okay, I applaud the spin.
That's pretty talented, I'll give you that.
Certainly not something I would have expected.
Anyway, regardless, I would advise people to go and check out the Wagner songs, just to try and get an understanding of why people in the Russian Federation or Donbass seem to have this aesthetic image of them, just to help you try and understand that world.
And to pump Callum's own video numbers?
No, you can go and try and find it elsewhere.
I just have some there.
This is Evgeny, my friend, for example, who decided to give me some of that.
He sang you a song?
Well, no, he played it on his guitar.
Oh, right.
But, like, when you're riding around in cars, for example, they won't play the radio in Donbass.
They'll play Wagner music.
They'll just sit there playing it, and it's like, all right, not allowed in the West.
Okay.
You could probably get in trouble in France or whatnot, but whatever.
Anyway, the only thing for us in the West, I think, is to just observe.
We don't have any influence, never mind the Russian population, so there's Seoul.
But either way, we're going to get some amazingly good more music out of all of this that will go down in history that's that's really my position on the whole thing well i can't wait for any embargoes on the music to be lifted then it's it's i'll make some remixes of it anyway what is the aboriginals i will hand over the box that's right box of fate welcome to aboriginal bills number two electric boogaloo one moment
Apologies everybody watching, it's hay fever season and I'm not doing very well.
It is quite warm in here actually and it's not just because of the animal magnetism that Callum and I have to one another.
Although it might be a little bit to do with that.
Anyway.
You've got to stop endorsing the fan fiction.
Fiction?
Anyway, so last week I spoke a bit about the Aboriginal Shakedown Bill, which is the West Australian Bill for the Australian Heritage Act, which allows Aboriginals to declare a piece of land as being their land.
It's sacred land, it has intangible elements to it that mean that they have rights to it, which is going to be a big problem for
anybody trying to deal with agriculture or farming or even just building anything on particular land because literally a council of aboriginals in australia can show up tell you that they have right to that land for some undefined reason in the actual legislature itself it says that if you ask the question are you telling the truth what makes this land special etc etc that's a culturally insensitive question so they don't have to prove anything so if you find yourself asking that question being told no and then
maybe being found guilty that you built on land that was supposedly sacred for intangible reasons then you can be liable to a lot of money and that will come into effect on the 1st of July but they do already actually have legislation already legislating that kind of thing this one just goes even further so watch that video from last week if you want a bit more information
And I was informed by some of our Australian viewers that while that was a big story, I had missed some of the extra stories, some of the larger picture, which I was already a little bit aware of, but didn't think it was fit for just the one segment to cover both sides.
So here, thank you for anybody who got in touch to sell me what was going on with the greater picture in Australia, and I'll be covering that now.
But before I go any further, On the website, as always, we've got some wonderful material.
We've got lots of work that we do on here, including Josh's Contemplation series, talking about Order and Chaos with Stelios in the latest episode.
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You could ask him to change his shirt, and he will cry.
I've seen it happen.
But one thing that is really good about this new studio is we can have more than two people in at any one time.
And on the Friday, I took part in a Contemplations with Josh.
It was always a pleasure.
But also Stelios at the same time, because we're able to have three people in the studio at any one time now.
Up to five, in fact, although we've not tried that just yet.
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But anyway, Something that somebody sent me was building off of the details from last week.
This is the result of the Aboriginal Heritage Act that's already in place.
So let's just get a practical example of the kind of nonsense that the Act that's already in place gives that will now be expanded as of the 1st of July, shall we?
So this was an article from, let me see, ABC News talking about Australian place names don't sound real to me.
They have a rather suspiciously named mountain, shall I say.
Which one?
There's a few in Australia.
You can make up your own mind.
The ones that look like a human head?
Well, there's that one, but then there's also one that, shall we say...
Mount N-Word is an actual place in Australia.
It's real!
You can look it up.
I don't know why it's real, but it is real.
I'm just reporting the facts there.
But this place, Toodyay, that doesn't sound like a real word, but I'll go with it.
Real estate agent Tony Maddox pleads not guilty to Aboriginal Heritage Act breach.
So this is the one that was already in place.
So he's facing up to nine months in jail for breaching the West Australia Aboriginal Heritage Act.
He pleaded not guilty.
He was charged by the State's Heritage Act Department last month after building a creek crossing his property.
That sounds like something that you should be able to do, right?
This is my property.
It's got a little bit of water running over it.
I'll build something to be able to, you know, cross over that bit of water.
Can you guess why it is that that was illegal?
Injuns.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Injuns.
Aboriginal Injuns.
The prosecution claimed the works, which included the removal of a large amount of silt from the Boya Garing Brook running through his property, disrupted the Wagool, a rainbow serpent central to Noongar mythology.
So the imaginary serpent was disturbed.
The prosecution's statement- This isn't a parody article, is it?
No, this is real.
This is real and a man might go to prison for nine months as a result of it.
For upsetting Waugool.
For upsetting the Gabagool.
How do you make that up?
That can't be a real Indian... It's an insensitive question.
You could just make it up and if you say that doesn't sound real to me, sorry, that's an insensitive question, you've got no right to ask it.
The prosecution's statement of facts, and facts is a term being used very loosely in this context.
Well obviously Waugool is real and you have upset him.
Well, yeah, it states that any alterations to the Waghool's home could scare it from the water, causing it to dry up and causing harm to the surrounding environment and people.
So if you scare away our imaginary serpent, the riverbed will dry up.
This seems, given that he's already built it and moved everything, if it has scared off the imaginary rainbow serpent, then, you know, I guess we just give it time.
And if the river dries up, then the aboriginals proved right.
This is something easily testable and under the act.
Just to give more context again, a person may not excavate, destroy, damage, conceal, or in any way alter any Aboriginal site.
Once again, the Aboriginals can just show up at any time and say, this is one of our sites, we had a magical experience here, it's got intangible elements, so that means it's ours, you're not allowed to do anything with it unless you pay us exorbitant amounts of money.
If convicted, Mr. Maddox could be fined more than 20,000 Australian dollars, so that's about £2.50 in real money, and be sentenced to spend time behind bars.
That's how it goes at the moment.
This new West Australia Aboriginal Act will be even more ridiculous and will go into power as of the 1st of July, so West Australians, I'm terribly sorry.
May God have mercy on the souls.
But there was a bigger part to this story as well, which was the referendum that will be going on at the end of next year, which starts here.
which is the Uluru Statement from the Heart.
This is the thing that kick-started what's going on in Australia right now.
So it's a 2017 petition by Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander leaders to change the constitution of Australia to improve the representation of Indigenous Australians.
The statement was released On 26th of May 2017 by delegates of the First Nations National Constitutional Convention held over four days near Uluru in Central Australia.
The convention was held after the 16-member referendum council appointed by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and leader of the opposition Bill Shorten on the 7th of December 2015 had travelled around the country and met with over 1,200 people.
The statement was issued after the convention and calls for a First Nations voice in the Australian Constitution and the Makarrata Commission to supervise the process of agreement-making.
Terribly sorry.
Is that part of the language?
I think it might be, to be fair.
I would need to be taking sips of booze in between, but anyway.
Truth-telling between the Australian government and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
The final report on the Referendum Council contains the following recommendations that a referendum be held to provide in the Australian constitution for a representative body that gives Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander First Nations a voice to the Commonwealth Parliament.
One of the specific functions of such a body to be set out in the legislation outside of the constitution should include the function of monitoring the use of the heads of power in section 51 and section 122.
The body will recognize the status of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the first peoples of Australia.
So what this is essentially asking for is an advisory board as part of the government, as part of the parliament to give them certain parliamentary power that will be able to advise on anything that the Australian government does.
Now, I have been told there are some problems with this given that Australia itself, of these Aboriginal peoples, like with Indians in America, all have various different tribes, which all have various different factions within them.
You're joking.
Which all have various different aims and goals towards one another.
They're not just a bunch of people with feathers in their heads?
They're not all just the same people with feathers in their heads.
And they don't all believe the same things either.
So what one tribe may say will be contradicted by another tribe.
Someone believes in Wagglewood, but someone else doesn't believe in Wagglewood.
Exactly.
And then where do you stand on the Wagglewood question?
I'm pro-Wagglewood, really.
So do I, actually.
So I'm glad to see that we're united on this front.
Charge that man!
But it turns out the First Nations tribes are not united on the Wagglewood question, which, if they suddenly have a certain amount of power with the Parliament as part of an advisory board, could create some issues.
So if I go further, so what is the key voice to parliament?
The five key questions.
So this statement, this Uluru statement, has now snowballed into this referendum that's going on in Australia.
So there are five key questions that Australia is asking according to this article, but I'll just go through some of the information, the primary information that they give in here so the legislation for the crucial vote passed on to the senate on monday meaning the referendum must now take place within the next six months so it'll probably be happening sometime before the end of the year Excuse me.
The Indigenous Voice to Parliament aims to provide a permanent representation and voice for the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people at each level of government.
It would put a body that represents the interests of Australia's First Nations people.
Simply put, the voice would be an advisory board for all levels of government, every single level of government, on how parliamentary decisions affect First Nations people.
The final format has yet to be decided, so while these people are voting on similar to Brexit, they've no idea how this will look in practice.
There's no practical understanding of how this will look so they're just voting on do you want to give the people a voice the way it's being
put forward as the question is do you want to give these people a voice in the parliament in government so many people might not understand what that is but either way at least with brexit you can say do you want to leave the eu yes but this just means do you want to give them a voice that could be anything between okay they get a representative who can't even vote in the parliament to we give them veto power over all laws so far they're saying there's no veto power that will be given to them but
Given the way these things snowball, given the way the West Australia Aboriginal Heritage Act works... We're colonists, after all.
What right do you have?
Yeah, exactly.
This is their country.
Why shouldn't they be able to just veto anything that the Australian government wants to do?
That's how this will snowball.
I mean, it's a nonsense argument, but we don't live in an age in which people in the West have an ability to actually argue back against that in the mainstream.
Instead, they just capitulate every time.
The West or Western peoples have just completely subsumed themselves to this ideology that if this person came first, then that means that they have ultimate right to say whatever.
Yeah, because they're not us.
Realistically speaking, despite the fact, and some people might find it insensitive, there was this thing called right of conquest, which means that we met in a field and we fought each other, you guys lost.
So, we get dibs.
I mean, that seems like the fairest way, personally, but never mind.
Yeah, yeah, certainly.
I mean, what else?
I think maybe the Prime Minister of Australia should maybe just get all the tribes can get together, find one representative, have an arm wrestle.
No, arm wrestle.
Arm wrestle.
There you go, see?
And then whoever wins gets Australia.
And it's smarter than this, because this is just the extended arm wrestle.
Over a period of years and years and years until one wins Australia anyway.
If you are not yourself sovereign, or if you do not know who the sovereign is, then somebody else will assume sovereignty of your nation.
That's just how it works.
You can't just have these things mixed, you can't have these things sort of balancing each other out in power in practice, because eventually someone will end up having the final say of this.
And if you want to just cede all power over because you have a guilty liberal bleeding heart, Then congratulations, you're going to get kicked out of your own country.
Or have things made so bad for you that you'll want to leave the country anyway.
This is just obviously how it's going to work.
And there's no point pleading with countries like ours that...
That, oh, we're the indigenous peoples.
Yeah, we're the indigenous peoples of England and such.
I've seen some people make the argument... Bro, we're giving up our country too.
Why can't we come along?
I've seen some people make the argument that, oh, what we need to do in the West, in Britain and places like that, is to make the argument to the left that, oh, we're the indigenous peoples, therefore you should apply those same standards.
No, they don't apply the same standards to us.
They don't care.
The point is that they don't care about indigenous peoples.
They hate indigenous Western European peoples.
They hate white peoples, is what the actual point is.
They just hate us.
So it's not going to work.
Anyway, that's just a little tangent I threw out there.
Moving on, so I'll carry on through this.
So the local and regional voices would consist of 35 local voices representing districts around the country, each one individually selected to be the voice For the communities they represent, the elected local voices would engage with politicians at local, state or federal levels and provide their input.
The national voice would have over 24 members, which must have a gender balance amongst the board.
Why?
Because it's arbitrary.
Because we've just decided that, you know, gender balance is something that we love.
That's what we like.
century things.
Insert gender balance.
Why?
I don't know.
It's the religion.
I mean, reasonably speaking, I mean, maybe these tribes, maybe they're the ones that have the magical third gender that they're always talking about.
So I guess that would be eight of each.
Yeah.
How do you figure out how many genders?
That is actually a serious thing they're going to have to sit down and argue about.
That is actually going to be something because I'm sure that these are the sorts of places, you know, the left always like to bring up, oh, well, indigenous peoples have different ideas of gender.
Well yeah, it helps when you've got a certain part of your tribe that's all been castrated, so you decide that because they've been castrated that means that they're a different gender.
That's generally how these things go.
So the thing is, we started off there being like, ha ha, the left will believe this nonsense.
And then we thought, no, no, hang on, that's the main ideology of every Western government.
Oh god, they actually will believe this nonsense.
So if it's a Western government, they will actually sit down and think about that.
They're going to have a committee on how many genders there are and the various tribes to decide whether or not they get the parity.
You start off with a simple question of, OK, should they have a voice?
And then you end up with a panel of government experts and specialists.
Yeah, so what about two-spirit then?
What about exogender?
They're going to start asking stupid questions like that.
And it says, it goes on to state in here, the voice is solely an advisory board to the Australian Parliament and Government and therefore it would only be there to provide evidence on matters which specifically affect Indigenous people.
But once again, given that they are automatically being labelled as the first people of the nation, therefore according to this sort of logic the entire country belongs to them, any decision made in the country of Australia would automatically affect indigenous people especially if they can just rock up to anywhere and say this is our special land because we believe in the magic rainbow serpent that lives here and stops the rivers from drying up.
That's just how it goes.
Therefore it would not have the power to overrule parliament or legislation also known as veto powers.
I've already made it clear how I think that this is nonsense.
Australian people though Such as my friend Chris Gard have actually taken a read through some of the advisory reports on the constitution alteration and I think Chris Gard Who, I'm informed on good word, is, reliably informed, is at least three quarters Aboriginal himself, says, have just finished reading the bill and can say with confidence that we are, and this is quite poetic language he's using here, governed by malignant retards.
This, in conjunction with the West Australian Abo Heritage Act, means we are effed.
Agriculture will become nearly impossible, as will mining.
Rest in peace, Australia.
Now, if you want more information from this... Where do I find more poetry like that?
You just follow Australian Twitter.
I've been told that Chris along with a few other people from Australia will be talking about this legislation on Friday so maybe tune in for that if you want some more informed and poetic discussion such as that that we see here and the government is doing what you'd expect because it turns out the polling is saying that it's not looking good.
It's not looking good for the yes vote right now because a lot of Australians like Chris have read the legislation and gone I don't like this.
This sounds like it will destroy this country.
I'm going to call my Member of Parliament.
Yep, that's right.
Going to call him a dingo, I will.
Aye, indeed.
Oi, Bruce!
Why do I have a mental image of a kangaroo in a suit just rocking up to the door?
I'm just thinking Simpsons.
Straight up Simpsons.
Yeah, true.
What are they going to get if it goes no?
The Prime Minister who recommended this is going to get a kick at the bottom.
That's what's going to happen.
uh anyway the the prime minister despite the fact that polling is not looking good for the yes vote is saying that he is confident because the latest news poll conducted for the australian shows more people are now against the voice to parliament than for it big surprise those against enshrining the voice in the constitution increased to 40 percent up from 43 percent on june 4th Support for it has meanwhile decreased from 46% to 43% with a further 10% undecided.
Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and Tasmania would reject the voice if a referendum were held next weekend.
Asked whether there is an alarm within his government ahead of the referendum, Mr Albanese, the Prime Minister, said that there is all upside and no downside for supporting the proposal.
No, this is a proposition that has come from the bottom up.
Listen, just because you can point to some random Indigenous peoples, Aboriginal peoples statement from 2017, doesn't mean that they had any power whatsoever to instigate this referendum.
They asked you for it, and then you did this.
The people of Australia as a whole were not clamouring for this legislation, so you can't say that it was bottom-up at all.
From the grassroots arising from the First Nations Constitutional Convention in 2017 at Uluru, That asked for the recognition, but also asked for the recognition to a voice by giving Australian governments the opportunity to listen to First Nations people on matters that affect them.
I think that as Australia focuses on what has been for the Australian people in the last quarter of the year, recognition and listening all upside, no downside for this proposal.
This just sounds like a bunch of nonsense.
I don't know if they've transcribed this particular interview poorly or not, but that sounds like a bunch of rambling nonsense to me.
and uh there was his statements he's been putting out on twitter basically just saying it's a good thing bro just trust me We may not have any details whatsoever, and this may be one of the biggest complaints from the opposition, that there's no details on how this will work.
But trust me, I'll just be all upside.
Just trust me, bro.
So I said to you when we were chatting about this earlier, this reminds me heavily of the story we covered before of Chile, in which they had a new constitution.
Oh, yeah.
And it was full of leftist garbage.
And one of them was, what if we set up their own government for the Indians?
That's a stupid idea.
Yeah, obviously being Chile, I think 75% of the people voted against it.
So we're just like, this is trash.
Yes, I can only hope that Australia will decide to do the same thing.
Hopefully they will, because this is absolute trash.
It'd be nice also if the Australian government or the West Australian government gave the local people there the ability to vote on, you know, that Aboriginal Heritage Act that seems to potentially destroy their agriculture.
Can't all be winners, can we?
It would be rather funny if after this they started blasting Augusta Pinochet's music.
Helicopters start circling some of the Aussie listeners.
And when we were talking about what might actually practically result from this as well, people have been pointing out that this man in the background, a Thomas Mayo The Voice to Parliament.
at Thomas Mayo 23, appears to be part of the Prime Minister's push to get the yes vote out there.
So he's written a book called, I'm sorry, this camera is in the way.
The Voice to Parliament.
What kind of suggestions does he have for what Aboriginal peoples should have?
Can you guess?
He appears to be Aboriginal himself.
Can you guess what sort of things that he wants for the Aboriginals in Australia?
More money and Medicare?
No.
Well, so here's him talking in 2020.
We imagine more.
This is talking about the Uluru Statement.
Just more.
We imagine how.
Using the lessons from the past, the Uluru Statement calls for the constitutional rights to a black representative body with the resources and structure needed to unite on the priorities we collectively determine a vital step in the fight for justice.
All sounds very high and mighty so far, but what does that look like?
Reparations, of course.
Land back.
Abolishing harmful colonial institutions.
Such as the Australian government.
Yeah, that's what it will be, won't it?
Getting all our kids out of prisons and into care.
What, even the murderers?
Even the murderers?
Probably even the murderers.
Respect and integration of our laws and laws.
Speaking language.
Wages back.
What does wages back mean?
The right to sniff petrol.
We want all the petrol you could give us, damn it.
Free booze every day of the week.
All the things... Wages back.
What does that mean?
Do you have wages?
Like, wages that you weren't paid?
Were you enslaved at some point?
I don't remember any talk about aboriginals being actually enslaved in Australia.
Maybe Australian people can... Well, you know, they were sent to prison for crime, therefore that's slavery, so... No, the aboriginals weren't.
No, were they?
I mean, actually, to be fair, these kids, yeah.
What if they were murderers, though?
It doesn't matter.
They were peaceful petrol stealers, I don't know.
All the things that we imagine when we demand the Uluru Statement.
So this is the kind of person that's backing it.
This is the kind of person who seems to be behind the scenes talking with the Australian Prime Minister about this.
So when people worry, and then the Australian government comes out and says that this is evil misinformation, then it doesn't appear to be, as far as I'm concerned.
Because guess what the Australian government is coming out and doing?
Saying that it's evil misinformation, and then do you know what else they might be doing?
Stiffing petrol with their friends?
They might just ban misinformation, which of course they determine what misinformation is.
This is from I Say Toad, I assume, another proud Australian.
Did they declare a hate speech again?
Uh, close enough.
He says, uh, Albany's government moves today, and that was, uh, when he says today, he means the 25th of June, yesterday, as we're recording, uh, with draft legislation to shut down the no case, with polls now showing at best 50-50 for a yes outcome.
Albo is going to gag Australians, why even bother having a referendum?
And this all checks out.
Millions of dollars in fines to punish online misinformation under the new bill.
So, the Ameri- Australian Communications and Media Authority, ACMA, Would be armed with the ability to require digital platforms to keep certain records about matters regarding misinformation and disinformation and turn them over when requested.
So this will be something similar to the online harms bill which might be pushed through parliament in the UK as well which will put all of online content produced in the UK or produced for the UK under the remit of Ofcom.
The key points here are what's important.
So the industry would be required to develop a code of practice with violations of the code resulting in penalties of up to 2.75 million dollars or two percent of their global turnover.
Can you imagine how much that is for the larger media companies like Twitter and like Facebook?
I mean, it's clearly just, give me your money.
Yeah, it's pointing the gun at your head and saying, give me the money.
And what is the misinformation?
According to the draft bill, misinformation is defined as unintentionally false, misleading, or deceptive content.
Also, defining this- Anything that disagrees with the state, okay.
Yep.
Disinformation as misinformation intentionally disseminated to cause serious harm.
But the important thing I note here is unintentionally false.
Unintentionally just means you were wrong about it.
Oh, yeah.
Hang on.
What?
Yeah.
Unintentionally false.
So it doesn't even mean that you are coming out in bad faith and purposefully trying to spread misinformation.
Decimal point in the wrong place.
Prism.
Twitter, give me billions and billions of dollars, please.
Absolutely ridiculous.
And if this passes, we can guess exactly what sort of thing they're going to be calling as disinformation, because we've got politicians.
Well, Tony Calma, uh who is a part of the australian government on the yes side of the referendum to give the australian indigenous peoples a voice the aboriginals a voice says that politicians on the other side of the opposition are deliberately peddling misinformation on the indigenous voice so this will just come down to people saying Hold up, clearly this will snowball into something that is much worse and much bigger than what is being put forward right now.
And then all of a sudden, if this bill gets put through as well, the Australian government gets to turn around and say, that's misinformation because it doesn't explicitly say that in the referendum.
Then the opposition turn around and say, you've not told us what this looks like on the other side.
That's one of our big complaints.
And then the Australian government goes, too bad we've shut you down.
Also, we're getting our billions of gibs off of Twitter.
I love democracy.
The Western governments are a complete state.
And good luck, Australia.
May God have mercy on your souls.
Whenever we check in with Australia, it's always absolutely awful.
It is, because this isn't even just West Australia or one of the states.
This is the whole country.
Yeah.
Anyway, I'm going to take a little magic box.
No!
My magic box, no.
All right, this is another one of those segments where I don't really know what I'm doing.
Could be terrible.
Last one turned out alright.
We were talking about women having sex with women by accident.
Did that turn out alright?
Yeah, weirdly.
I mean, it got decent views, I suppose, so I had no idea what was going on.
Yeah, most other people were just like, wait, that's happening?
I was like, yeah, well, you know, be careful, women.
Women could be out there.
Anyway, instead we're going to talk about AI nationalism, because...
We did a segment a while ago where we were looking at some of the predictions that things would go to pot.
It is really warm in here, isn't it?
Unbelievably warm.
It's very sweaty in here.
I wonder if it has anything to do with these gigantic screens behind us.
Yeah, it might.
The Americans in the chat are like, I'm proud to be an American, or at least I have AC.
There is AC in here.
Is there?
Yeah.
Can you not hear that buzzing?
I thought that was the screens.
No, that's the AC trying to live.
Anyway, that's my point, which was... something.
What was it?
Oh yeah, music.
We've got no idea what we're doing.
Oh yeah, I've no idea what I'm doing.
Anyway, we'll start off by promoting something.
Wait, wait, go back.
Yeah, we'll promote thiswithlegacies.com, which is another instance of me having no idea what I'm doing.
Hey, hey, hey.
Are we going to do a part two to this?
I've been pestering Callum for about a month now.
I've got a list of 10 songs which you might enjoy.
I still need to send it to you, but you might enjoy them.
It's got Rammstein on it, it's got Sabaton on it, it's got songs that are about war, fighting people in battles.
For people who don't know, we did this podcast where Harry tried to explain western music to me and I tried to show him I realise what I should do is just actually show him the music instead of just telling him.
Yeah, because you told me about some new Nazi in Norway who was a... Vagvikers?
Yeah.
He's a hell of a story in and of himself.
But no, no, you just need to send me your list of 10 songs of propaganda music and then we'll do this, alright?
Didn't we say I was going to?
I had made the list and then they all got banned.
Because a lot of them were Vagvikers songs.
We'll find a way.
Yeah, because I think I was trying to explain with that, it's like the aesthetic and you need the ones with the translations added, otherwise it's a waste of time because you don't understand what I'm saying.
And then they all got banned one day, I was like, oh.
I guess you'll just have to come up with some of your own then.
You'll have to do the translations yourself.
I'm singing it in English.
Nationalist music, as I was trying to explain in this premium thing, and in general, is pretty good.
It can be.
Here's Injun.
A lot of people recognize the channel name from when we did our thing, actually.
You're not alone, fellow weirdos.
I also, you know, partake in watching endless propaganda music from God knows how many countries.
This one's actually really cool.
It's a Swedish nationalist song from the new era.
So it's of the modern age.
All right.
This is something that I think has been massively neglected in English speaking music.
We don't seem to have any.
It's completely barren.
But in Europe... These days, yes.
Yeah, but in Europe they have some really...
Good bangers, to be honest.
Actually, I know I mentioned him in the last segment, but Chris Gard, he's got a YouTube channel, and if you go on it, he's done some actually very good folk renditions of old English poems, like he's done one of Rudyard Kipling's White Man's Burden, which is actually quite inspiring to listen to, so I'd recommend you go check that out.
But this is just Sweden real quick.
It's neat.
Go and check it out.
I don't know if this will make copyright strikes.
It's new age stuff.
It's not like 100 years old, like usual nationalist things.
But it's good.
And, well, besides the conversation about nationalist music, AI is also a thing, of course.
And we've covered that.
It is.
And AI has discovered both of these things.
Or nationalism in music?
Well, it started to figure out... Oh no, we're not back to Spongebob, are we?
You may remember Spongebob AI, which was... How could you forget?
Certainly something.
And I suppose, I'm just going to remind people real quick what Spongebob AI looks like, which is, we covered the fake Seinfeld, someone made a fake Spongebob, and it's what you might expect.
Is the audio playing?
Is that working?
Is that not working?
Tony D and... No, that's not what we want to play.
It's Tony D and Little Joan.
The fog is coming!
I'm getting no audio through John.
Hopefully the audience can hear it.
We had that bug yesterday.
Oh sorry, Friday.
The fog is coming!
Oh good luck!
Good luck!
If you can't hear anything, just imagine a jaunty nationalist tune.
Anyway, that's the web stuff.
So, my point being, there, just that the AI is strange, but it's also learning.
Because as you can see here... That sounds so sketchy.
The AI is learning.
Yeah, it is learning.
And for example here, it learned to sing... I think this is Michael Jackson?
I hope it didn't learn to sing Johnny Waddle.
I know.
It's learned to sing Confederate war songs.
Oh, no.
See, you say that.
Oh, no.
So point being that it's learned to sing some things.
Some people having a bop there, of course.
And well, it's not just the occasional pop song.
If we go forward, some other people have been making AI covers, because that's just the AI learning itself.
People, of course, have been going out of their way with Eleven Labs to make AI voices for things, and they've been throwing them into songs.
So there's the version of Billie Jean by Mr. Krabs, AI cover there, which is...
We can't play any of these even if the audio is working for obvious copyright reasons, but you can imagine.
If the things I do play just don't exist in the YouTube clip, that'll be why.
There you go.
We have Trump featuring Biden over here, singing Homies in Paris.
Did they ever release a censored version of that?
Because you know how Eminem would make a song and you'd have to produce a censored version of it?
Yeah, sometimes they just do the annoying thing where they'll go in and edit the actual word out so you just get a blank pause, which is always very disappointing.
But it turns out there's quite a few of these.
I thought it might have been a niche subject or something.
This has like 500,000 views or something.
You can see 20,000 likes there.
There's the Austrian painter, who decided to sing Gangnam Style as well.
Did he do the dance too?
Well, not him, but Edward Richtofen from Call of Duty Zombies did do a little dance.
All right.
So there's that.
He's not the only one.
Freddie Mercury, I will always love you, I found.
Yeah?
This is actually surprisingly good.
I would imagine it would be.
Yeah, it's annoying that none of the tech works because I'd love to actually... I'm just hoping the audience can hear that.
I can't hear that.
Have you got anything in chat?
Does the chat say anything?
Is the chat fucking along?
Are we getting struck down?
I see right now.
So, alright, maybe that works.
I guess we've played enough.
I hope it was good.
I don't know.
I can't hear it.
But my point being that, well, I'd love to do an impression now, but I can't do Freddie Mercury.
But it's a very good impression.
Freddie Mercury is a very difficult one to do an impression of.
Exactly.
Really hard for a human being.
The AI got it.
And it managed to do, I will always love you in Freddie Mercury's voice.
Well, I think one of the reasons was Freddie Mercury had extra teeth in his mouth, made his mouth a bit bigger, so it made it so that his voice reverberated in his mouth a bit differently than normal people's.
Is that true?
Yeah, that's true.
He's a mutant.
A little bit.
I mean, he was from Zanzibar, so... It's like the X-Men, except that's his talent.
His talent is a really great singing voice.
I can sing.
Is that a mutant talent, really?
Have you watched a lot?
I don't know if you have.
You know I'm a bit obsessed with Carl Pilkington.
Of course.
I watched all of his radio shows at this point.
I'm watching the early stuff where he's just in the background eating Jaffa Cakes.
Callum's Carl's number one guy.
He's a tough guy.
Honestly.
Sincerely.
It's just hilarious.
There's one where he's eating Jaffa Cakes and then he just claims that Jaffa Cakes cure cancer.
Ricky's like, what are you talking about?
And he just goes, well, not fully.
No.
Okay.
Not fully.
Okay.
If you've got cancer, you can't just eat it alone and then it'll be gone.
But it's good.
Anyway, the world used to be better when you could actually make medical misinformation claims on live radio.
And that was considered humor instead of... I don't think that the, what was it, Radio X they were on?
Yeah.
I don't think Radio X were coming out and saying everything Carl Pilkington says is the utmost truth, the medical advice that we recommend.
The modern version of that is being on YouTube, of course, and we can't even make jokes about medical stuff because then you get strike, no one actually looks at your appeal, and you can suck a D.
Whereas, you know, back in the day, you could, you know, write in the Daily Mirror that Hitler landed on the moon and everyone would just move on with their lives.
There we go, interesting.
Anyway, point being, I'm not the only one.
You can see Plankton here singing Begging.
I suppose I'll play some of this as well.
That's a good tune.
What's weird though is it's good.
It's annoyingly good, that's my fear.
I mean, Plankton did have a satisfying deep baritone to his voice, so I can imagine it working.
Perhaps.
God, I hope they could hear that.
God, if you can't hear it, we just...
I don't know, is it better that they can or can't?
Should we do a Lotus karaoke sometime?
Oh no.
I mean, we've got a massive screen now.
We can have the words up there so everyone at home can sing along.
I can't think of anything worse.
But I can.
Yeah, you probably can.
But Miss Plankton's eaten off.
But Mr. Krabs has become the favourite.
I just want to show people this, isn't it?
The Eugene show!
it working it working John thank you That's really impressive.
You've got the intonation of his voice right.
That's really impressive.
You've got the intonation of his voice right.
You know, I'll tell you, crabs can spit bars, man.
I'll go away for the chorus, though, I guess.
Oh, because this one's great.
So this one's not going on YouTube.
It even fits with the character!
of controversy I am the worst beast and though this press me to do black music selfishly and use it to get myself wealthy even fits with the character even fits with the other white rappers immerse but no matter how many fish in the sea it'd be so pinty without me now this looks like God time for me yeah people in the chat are like it do be a banger though
controversy look what I'm saying is there's a reason I made this segment which I knew it might be crap but at the same time hey pretty cool right Pretty fun.
We're in the new studio.
We're experimenting.
We're seeing what works.
New edgy content.
Lotus Eaters after dark.
Have you listened to random music?
See, you laugh, but I mean, there is a lot of content on YouTube.
A friend of mine was showing me this guy, and literally all he does is react to memes.
You wanna guess how many million followers he has?
40?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, yeah.
So it's like five, but still.
If it's in the millions... React content was huge on YouTube for a while, and that was literally some guy in the corner watching somebody else's content go, And I got millions of views.
People made a living doing that.
So share this video.
Anyway.
Get your best react face on Callum, just so that people can use it.
This is what I was excited about though.
This is what got me into it and why I have to show people.
Of course.
So no, no, no, no.
I haven't joined the IRA.
Never met the IRA.
Quiet.
What are you trying to do?
What were the ones?
Don't look ahead.
No, no, I'm not looking ahead.
I'm looking back now that we can, can we, You want to go back and play some of them?
I want to go back and hear Austrian painters singing.
No, no.
I'm not playing that.
What's weird as well about that one is in the middle, you know the... I don't know what he's saying, obviously, but in the middle of Gangnam Style, he goes... Like that bit.
They just used Z Kyle.
It fit.
like that bit they just use Zeke Heil it fit it was like it really is This is what people choose to do with their time.
Cause it's like when I see, did you see that ridiculous edit of Marvel where it was like infinity, well at the end of whatever it was, end game, except it's also mixed with Breaking Bad.
So it's Tuco crushing up the infinity stones and then using Thor's hammer on, who makes these?
Who goes through all the time to make these things?
Because this takes a lot of skill to be able to do.
You've got to move little arrows all around the body, every single frame.
You've got to get the glow right, because that was one of the best edits I've ever seen.
Because you've got the glow right, you've got the lighting right for everything.
There was no, like, green glow around where the edges have been cut out.
Yeah, it's ridiculously difficult and you just do it so you can throw it up for free on YouTube and get meme points.
I mean, sincerely, I look at that stuff and I want to talk about it for a while.
I genuinely think that is probably the best art of our time.
And I'll fight anyone on that.
I don't know who's making better stuff.
Because you've got to think that the intricacies to make that work, to make it work perfectly as a meme format, is so unique.
Being a musician, I would obviously put music ahead of that, but certainly it's much better art than anything Marvel actually puts out these days.
Fair enough, you do play a meme guitar.
But my point being, and the reason I want to talk about this is because you can see here, Krusty Krabs has a change of heart.
Not only about money, but now about... His allegiance?
Bringing down the crown?
His loyalties?
Yeah, anyway, this is The Foggy Jew by Mr. Krabs.
I'm sorry, you just know that if Mr. Krabs was to actually do something like this, it would be purely so that he could get the crown and get the jewels in the crown for the money.
Anyway, let's check this out, I suppose.
I need a pint.
It does, it does, honestly.
I need a pint What's that?
It does, it does, honestly Very impressive That's enough Spongebob me boy!
Now, for those of you in the audience who are not too best pleased about the RA, I'm with you, which is why, don't worry, we have No Pope of Rome by Squidward, a new and upcoming artist as well.
All right.
You've heard No Pope of Rome?
No, I haven't actually.
It's a bit weird.
Oh, give me a home where there's no Pope of Rome, and there's nothing but Protestant state.
You need a tissue?
Do you need a tissue?
I need some fertilizer.
See, that's the thing.
It's impressive that they managed to get all of the inflection of the words and all of the notes and everything right.
It takes a lot of time.
I mess about with recording software sometimes, and it's a pain in the arse.
Just recording your own voice and making sure it's in time.
I record demos for song ideas that I have, and as a guitarist, I have a terrible tendency to rush ahead of a click track.
and that's just a pain in the arse in and of itself is trying to get everything in time because then you have to program drums if you're doing a demo and that's just difficult just to do in and of itself but this this is just another level so i don't have a keyboard because i've just thought of something as well all right i don't know if john can use the keyboard perhaps you can perhaps you can't What do we want, John?
Go on.
David Attenborough, 40k, is what I would like to type in.
Because I'm actually going to share.
Alright, here we go.
Because I know a lot of chaps love 40k as well.
I've been listening to literally every video on this channel over here.
Wait, so this is just an AI voice of David Attenborough giving 40k lore?
Yeah, it's just him in his voice describing, but someone has clearly taken like the, I don't know, books or something and just put the text in.
But it works as well?
Okay.
The Geistos Cataclysm was a devastating conflict brought about by a major incursion of demonic forces upon the imperial agri-world of Geistos.
Anyway, I've been falling asleep to that every single night for the last two weeks.
I've seen this episode like four times.
I mean, it sounds peaceful.
Even if it is describing, you know, gigantic cataclysmic wars.
But if you like 40k, I know a lot of the audience do, do go check it out.
That was actually a really sweet one as well.
You don't know much about 40k lore, do you?
People have at various points tried to explain it to me.
To be super quick just about this one because about the interest it's about a boy who starts hearing voices which is a symptom of you being infected by chaos on this agri world in the middle of nowhere and of course he doesn't report it because he doesn't want to get taken away by the authorities so one day he ends up exploding and the demons of the war come through him oh all right and within a month the entire planet is destroyed but go check that out anyway And Callum uses that to fall asleep to.
But back to the nationalist music stuff, because I happen to notice... Oh yeah, this had something about nationalism.
Something about politics, so I don't know.
Where do I work?
You can see here, this is the German polling, and the reason I brought up the German polling is because the AFD is now the second biggest party in all of Germany.
I've been hearing about this recently.
I think they won their first seat in parliament recently, didn't they?
They won the first district.
Ah, first district, yes.
You can see that there.
But if we go to the polling, you can see, you know, this blip over here, that's the election.
This is where they're at now, and I'm very much hyped for the next election.
You saw that this happened, and you thought, I want to make a segment out of this, but there's no way I can stretch this to 20 minutes.
And then you went, what else can I fill this time with?
I had to film outros before I went to lunch.
Oh, OK, all right.
Anyway, but no, I actually do have a point here, which is not just AFD do a thing, but AFD quite cool as well as being up in polls.
Because you may remember Pride Month.
Oh yes, when all of the Germans were like, yes, I have a flag I'm very proud of.
You may have noticed this was them as well.
They enjoy a hell of a good meme.
Now, Austrian painter, obviously not.
Haven't you also put the united flag behind your profile on Twitter?
Aye, aye.
There you go.
That's the sort of thing we like to be proud of around these parts.
Everyone should join.
And just real quickly, for people who don't know what the AFD are, you can see here France 24 calling them the far right party.
It's an alternative for Deutschland, isn't it?
What do they do that's far right?
They literally describe themselves as an anti-immigration party.
Oh no, that would be the worst thing to happen to Germany.
Well, do you know who else was anti-immigration?
Not Hitler.
Also lots of other people who weren't Hitler.
No, his main policy was mass migration.
He wanted all the Germans to return to Germany.
That doesn't even matter.
Listen, Liebenschraum may be its own thing.
Anyway, but point being, depending on if the AFD is listening or just any of you German pride chaps, well, I know you like a good meme.
AI music, especially AI nationalist music, is now possible.
You don't even have to do a song yourself.
You just type it all in, add the instrumental version in the background, and you've got yourself some nationalist music.
Now, if you want to be endorsed by Mr. Krabs for the upcoming election, members of the AFD, I'm just saying it's there.
And I look forward to a Mr. Krabs Panzerleid.
As soon as you can make one.
Otherwise I had no idea how to connect that to politics and there we are!
There we go!
I think video comments now?
Yeah, we'll try.
I think we can hear Tony D now.
Let's play.
Tony D and Wee Scurvy Joan here with another tale of pirates in South Jersey.
Jacob Fagan and Lewis Fenton were land pirates and associates of bloody John Bacon.
They terrorised the Pine Barrens during the Revolutionary War but when the war was over they were set to be hung.
Lewis Fenton tried to bargain with his life Claiming there was treasure back in their hideout, but when the guards wouldn't be bribed, he tried to escape and they shot him dead.
You'll have to excuse me, it's quite warm.
Very interesting.
It is quite warm, but Callum's already trying to kill himself through electrocution by pouring water all over the studio, where there are lots of wires.
People, when we put out the notice of what we were doing with the studios, did notice the somewhat poor cable management.
So people are aware of how many wires there are.
I like to live dangerously.
I think the table management is a little bit better now.
You're even barefoot.
Yeah.
Why aren't you?
Why are you?
Because it's warm.
He's got us there.
You want to wear warm socks and waterproof boots?
He's actually got me there, folks.
Let's go through some of the comments.
Uh, no.
I mean, you told me... I certainly don't want that water for drinking.
You told me that tastes like chemical burns.
Yeah, it does.
We got it from the sink in the office.
It's disgusting.
There's actually some good tips.
We should get a water distiller.
Just for any British people watching who might be a tad hot.
So, an Italian friend let me on this.
Alright, okay.
If you get some water, just shove it behind your ears and all over your skin and whatnot.
But you can't have it dripping.
It needs to be very smooth.
Just a layer of water before you go out or because you're sat at home and you're hot.
Because, of course, It evaporates, but only if it's thin enough, because if it's dripping, it won't evaporate.
It cools me down so much.
It's my top trick for... I'll have to give that a try.
...staying cold during this hot spell.
Yes.
Let's read some of the comments.
Let's do that.
Shall we?
So, a big thank you to the Blood of the Blood Gods, because he gave us, on what appears to be Rumble, $50, saying, here's a little incentive to do a good job.
Thank you very much, Blood of the Blood Gods.
I think...
We did a good job.
Joke's on you.
Thanks for the $50 anyway.
Do you want to read some of them?
We'll go to Patrick Blanford, who says I've liberally subscribed so I can get on the Aboriginal issue.
Oh, thank you very much.
This is the perfect opportunity for them to create a two-tiered system where the whites will be discriminated against legally.
That's always the goal.
Yeah.
Also, Anthony L. Bies is an effing arthart.
Another poet I see!
A friend of Chris.
And only doing what he thinks will make him a historic figure like Rudd's Anthropology.
Also the Indians already have a government department for advice and yeah, they don't care.
Like Chris told me a bunch about this.
He said that they already have an element in the parliament that they can go to advice for, but this would just give them more power.
But once again, it would also mean that you've got more representatives sitting on an advice board for them, which once again just opens up more opportunity for infighting between all of the different tribes.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
Anyway, let's move to Wagner.
So, Cynthia Poole says that Putin should have just bought in Just Stop Oil for the road blockade.
I'm sure that would have worked.
I mean, it would have solved our Just Stop Oil problem.
They would be paced.
Base Ape says... No comment.
Or Hammers.
You know about the Hammers, don't you?
Did I not tell you about Wagner and the Hammers?
No, you didn't tell me about Wagner and the Hammers.
Okay, when Wagner find a traitor... This isn't like a kill list situation, is it?
Yeah, it is.
When they find a traitor, so a Russian who's on the enemy side, regardless of the battle.
This started when they were fighting ISIS and they found Russians who joined ISIS.
Get a big old sledgehammer.
Ooh, that's a bit heftier than I was expecting.
Turns out, skulls not so resistant to a sledgehammer.
Actually, have you ever seen Kill List?
I assume you're referring to the Ukrainian Kill List.
Oh, no, I'm talking about a film called Kill List, although it's quite similar.
There's a scene in that.
It's, you know, typical.
Well, it's not a typical film, but there's a typical plot in it.
You know, Hitman takes on one last job so that he can earn some money.
The money is actually so that his family can buy a new jacuzzi, but that's neither here nor there.
So he killed a man for a jacuzzi?
Multiple men.
So he gets given this kill list by this mysterious client he's working for and all the people he starts to kill thank him before he kills them and one person in particular he finds out is dealing in some, shall we say, Not very nice videos to do with underage people.
So he chooses to murder him in a very brutal way, and he gets him to lay his head against the coffee table, and he has a hammer in his hand.
And you expect, you know, when the hammer comes down, you expect the shot to just cut away, and you just hear it, or just go to a different... No, you just see him just cave the man's skull in.
It's pretty brutal.
That probably is the only person who's gonna kill me can show that, right?
Because everyone's ruined him at that point.
Yeah, yeah, at that point, yes.
It's a good film, I'd recommend it.
I don't know.
BaseApe says, if we're doing a Breaking Bad comparison, Putin is definitely Gustavo Fring.
America is Hank Schrader.
And the EU is Skylar White.
Britain is Saul Goodman and Zelensky is Tuco Salamanca.
I don't see how Britain's sore.
Because we're still buying Russian oil.
Oh yeah, I suppose so.
We're like, aye, oil, we're complying with the sanctions, aye.
Anyway, India, I know how you produce so much oil, that's why we're buying off you, wink wink.
Yeah, it looks good.
So, it's the EU over there, Scarlet White, being like, no.
Stop killing people.
Stop selling weed to my husband.
Omar Awad says, I think the current running conspiracy theory is that the Pentagon found several billion dollars for Ukraine after an accounting area immediately after the Russian coup.
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
I did hear this one.
I don't think I saw BS, so I'm not putting any stock in it.
But that's just my opinion.
Who knows?
I mean, that's the thing about the wild, wild east.
I guess we're just going to have to do that thing we did earlier on and just go...
Roll reggae!
Swing, swoop!
This isn't a training exercise!
Phil Rigby says it's clear that Purgosian just scammed the Pentagon.
Again, I don't believe it, but I may very well be wrong.
That's the thing.
There is a Metal Gear Solid reference here.
He played the West like a fiddle.
Played us like a damn fiddle!
What are you doing?
The sweeping is part of the plan.
argument was everyone is on the accounting era apparently Lord Nervar says the whole Vagman thing is just mafia politics on an international scale two mob bosses sorting out their issues and they went now how nothing bugging for everyone else yeah I do love if you're an average Russian you just start to like trust the plan bro I don't know just continue sweeping I do feel it weird as well what are you doing the sweeping is part of the plan just trust the plan you're laying out your coup plan and then the street sweepers will come in *laughter*
And then we'll catch them on TikTok.
You sweep the streets clean of dirt.
It's metaphorical, symbolic, see?
Yeah.
Le French LARP says, "Putin comes out stronger from the event.
His army remained loyal.
His allies immediately sent words of support.
The incident ended with very little bloodshed, and on top of that, historically, survivors of a coup attempts tend to come out stronger.
Chavez in Venezuela, Erdogan in Turkey, Juan Carlos in Spain, and de Gaulle in Algeria, to know a few." That's an interesting view.
I did find some strange aspects to it.
I mean, like, the president of Kazakhstan was asked to help and he just responded by saying it's an internal matter.
I don't care.
He just responded by saying it's very nice!
Yeah, basically.
So, a lot of people were taking that as, hell no, Putin's allies are abandoning him, but at the same time, what was he gonna do?
In Kazakhstan.
So, I don't know.
Sophie Lev says, gotta love the West.
Russia is failing any day, guys.
They are running out of soldiers and then nothing happens all over and over and over again.
Yep.
Yeah, I did notice that.
The counter-offensive.
That everyone should keep quiet about.
Ukrainian counter-offensive with cunning boys.
They're gonna kick them out this summer.
Oh, it's gonna be any day now.
So yeah, maybe.
But not today.
Yeah.
Anyway.
And somehow nobody realizes that Russia is an approximate NATO, she says, and we're in a war with a NATO vassal state, which means any information ever given to us will be anti-Russian, pro-NATO propaganda, so we can't trust anything we're being told.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, this is something I've struggled with trying to get some normies to understand, which is like, look, Yeah, in Russia, you don't have the broad range of access to information that you might have in the West, but you're not really getting that either, because even though you can go on the internet and find this stuff, most people don't.
The funny thing is, these people, the normies will understand that propaganda has always been a part of wars, every war ever, especially since the beginning of the 20th century.
But not this one.
But this one's different, guys.
This time they're telling us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Yeah, that's... not on that train, but sure.
Theodore says, the Wagner-Russian-MOD situation reminds me of the 20th century Japanese army and navy in service to the same country, but in constant internal conflict for resources and political favor.
Or perhaps even feudal politics.
There are numerous examples of internal conflicts between different factions of nobility and nobles marching on the capital to force the ruler to dismiss an advisor or an ally of a competing faction.
Again, perhaps.
Could be.
Very much perhaps.
I suppose we'll see what happens to Shogu, because Shogu was out yesterday inspecting troops Which was the first time anyone had seen him for a while.
So if he stays, that would be quite weird.
But if he goes, then that would make sense as to an outcome of this.
But again, I guess we'll see.
Nothing has happened so far.
George Hap says, I still think the conflict in Ukraine is one of Orwell's forever wars.
It doesn't make sense to be going on so long.
Putin was a WEF member and not deploying full Russian military, but using proxy like Wagner is weird.
I don't really buy any of that.
I think that the conflict is sincere, and both sides are trying to do what they can, but I just find it... I mean, again, even after being there, I'm still not heavily invested in that conflict.
It's just like, okay, Slavs killing Slavs.
But my position is always Britain first, in my mind, not the group, obviously, just foreign policy-wise.
So, for example, I love Israel.
Just to get it out there before we say anything else.
Right, let me clarify that.
I love Israel's attitude towards all foreigners, which is, how do I fund both sides?
And not in the sense of how do I give them my money and then lose money, it's how do I sell weapons to everyone so I become rich, I have a massive weapons-making industry, and well-employed citizens making top-of-the-grade equipment.
That's brilliant!
That's the best foreign policy!
And instead, in the UK, constantly our position is, how do I make myself poor, my citizens unemployed, and Pakistani gender studies filled with coffers of gold?
That is actually how we operate our foreign policy, and I'm sick of it.
At least the Americans have foreign policy goals on a global scale, because they've got mass interests all over the world, and a huge empire, and blah blah blah.
We have nothing!
We're up next to nothing, and we still piss money off the wall for no good reason.
It pisses me off.
Especially when an opportunity presents itself to make money, and we're like, what if we gave it away all for free?
Oh, thanks.
Thanks, great.
Real helpful.
Anyway, that's where my brain's at.
AngelBrain says, it's Russia.
In the West, we overthink these things.
It'll be exactly what it looks like.
A change of terms, it won't be anything more than that.
However, it's Russia.
For all we know, that's their entrance to the Eurovision of 2027.
I mean, you did say the Wagner tunes were bangers.
Oh, they really should send one.
There you go.
The F show that would cause a low.
Oh, yeah.
Go for it.
Would be funny, but also...
Look, even if you hate them, you've got to admit that I'll show you after.
Oh yeah, yeah, show me after.
So let's go on to some of the comments for the Aboriginal referendum.
Someone online says, so they have blasphemy laws in Australia now.
Worse, in fact, because it's completely ad hoc.
Are you drinking that?
He's just given up all hope, folks.
Oh, I've got cancer.
Oh, well, that's fine.
You'll die of something, right?
Just a tab water cancer.
Nothing good.
Nothing bad.
The most malign of cancers.
Yeah, because these blasphemy laws are completely ad hoc and also can be made up on the spot.
And you have no way of questioning them.
And it doesn't have to relate to anything that actually exists or has ever existed.
And also you go to prison for it.
So, yeah, pretty bad.
Anonymy says, First Nation, what nation did they have?
Also another US export.
Well, yeah, that's a question.
Whenever you're talking about these places like they are nations, before the Europeans got there, no, they weren't.
It was a bit of land that had series of warring factional tribes on it, who were warring over different parts of territory.
There was no nation called Australia.
There was an island called Australia, and then we unified it into an actual country.
That's what we did.
So, I guess they get some territory, but we won.
Sorry.
We met in the field and you guys lost catastrophically, but then technically also for going by that logic, Australia belongs to the emus.
Yeah, we did lose.
They lost catastrophically time and time again.
I don't know how you lose to emus, but then again, I'm not Australian, so I've never seen one in real life.
They did actually win in the end.
Did they?
Did they?
Well, do you know the whole story of the emu war or not?
I'm aware that they started a war against them.
I know that they put up a gigantic fence that the emus just broke through.
Yeah, it didn't really work.
But the first thing they sent out was basically a group of the army with a machine gun to go and shoot them, but it just didn't work because they were retarded.
Wait, you can't just shoot emus?
Well, you can, but they're really tough.
And also they shut down a truck to have like an LMG in like 1920.
So of course, the accuracy is terrible, the range is awful, you're not hitting anything because they're just running everywhere.
So what the Australian government ended up doing is just putting a bounty on emus.
So then the hunters just deal with it?
Yeah, bounty hunters deal with it.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I suppose that always works.
They got their own PMC involved!
Wagner got involved!
See, if Wagner was in Australia, they'd have no immune problem.
So the solution, as always, is just give people a profit incentive.
And then you sort this out.
Profit share?
Job done.
There you go.
The letter M is for misspelling.
I like that you change it up every day.
Thank you.
It's incredible that I'm learning more about the silly referendum and what's happening from two English lads over in England than I have over the entire past few years over in Australia.
Thank you so much.
Keep up the great work, mates.
Well, thank you very much for that, because it wasn't something that I was too aware of before people that I know started to make me aware of it.
So I've got to say thank you to them.
And that includes Mr. Bogan and Chris Gard as well.
Thank you both for making me aware of all of this because it is very interesting and it's very important as well because I'm glad I can get the word out to people like you.
Maybe now you can know what's going on in the referendum.
You can vote no against it.
Maybe that can make a bit of a difference.
Ignacio Junquera says, I'm sorry, not, but you are an Aboriginal that has contributed nothing to your ancestral land that has been piggybacking off of the real caretakers of the land you deserve nothing.
No consideration.
And I'm pretty sure that's referring to the Aboriginal Australians, not to us two, because otherwise I would be quite upset and offended right now.
Would you?
Why would we have any consideration in the runnings of Australia?
It's up to them.
Yeah, no, I'm joking.
Anyway, California refugee.
So essentially this man is being put in jail and fined for blasphemy.
I think that is grounds for him to apply for a refugee status for religious persecution by his government.
This whole Aussie thing is in stain.
And yet more evidence, as far as I'm concerned, that Australia isn't real.
Would something so silly be happening in a real country?
I don't think so.
Riot Act.
This voice has no veto officially, but there's no way any politician would go against what they say.
So in actual fact, they do have veto power.
Yeah, that's how I'm seeing it as well.
John Wade.
I wonder precisely whose bottom this proposition has come from.
Guess we'll find out.
Fuzzy Toaster.
I declare all fresh water in the British Isles as religiously significant.
No, you can't ask how.
It's impolite to ask.
That's the attitude we should be taking with it.
Andrew Narog.
Calling it now.
Australia is a test run for further implementation in other Western countries and their own oppressed minorities.
Push it as far as it can go and then universalize it is the likely game plan.
I don't, I mean, I don't think they can make the Aboriginal argument in England or anywhere like that unless they want to give power to you or I. Well, actually me.
You're Irish.
I'm fine with that.
Yeah, that's fine.
You can bugger off back there.
I've got more money than this place, though.
Oh, true.
Damn.
Yeah, they might be able to... You've been exiled.
No, no, to the UAE.
Oh, okay.
They might be able to pull it off in Canada and Australia, though.
Not Australia, that's what we're talking about.
They might be able to pull it off in Canada and the US.
Those are the two places that we're most likely to let it happen.
AngelBrain, if you have a bastard mind like mine, you'll know that there are hundreds of mobs of aboriginals and the entire precept relies on indigenous or first people basis as defined in the language.
Now you're going to have a real hard time getting the mobs to talk to each other because they have their own common language that varies so they don't even all speak the same language.
And even the best anthropology gives us the... gives us the Hmong people.
The Hmong people.
All right, coming into the area 50,000 years ago.
Go on, give it a look up.
I'm not speculative.
Let it run its course.
This one will be absolutely hilarious.
I can only hope.
Is it spelled with a H?
Hmong?
No, Hmong, as in like dung, but with an M. Yeah, I can't find that, but I can find the Hmong.
The Hmong.
Hmong.
Hmong people.
Yeah, these are the Hmong people.
Fair play.
You know about the Cairns?
Is there an actual tribe called the Cairns?
Yeah.
Go on, show me.
I wonder if we can get up.
John, we need your help.
We need you to type in, um, the Karen's ethnic group.
The Karen's ethnic group.
It should come up on Wikipedia.
They still just come up with white women with that haircut.
Yeah, I hope.
So, the way I found out about this is quite weird.
I got an email after Afghanistan.
Oh, wait, the Karen people.
Yeah, there we are.
Heterogeneous loss of ethnic groups that do not share a common language, culture, religion, or mental characteristics.
Oh, okay, that's not what I was expecting.
Karen woman in traditional attire.
Headline to Karen.
Is she this big?
I think they're quite small.
I was going to say, because she looks like she would be tiny.
There's 9 million of them.
Yeah, they're long.
There's 200,000 Karens in the United States.
In Myanmar, which is a country I've never heard of.
No, I have heard of it, just... Burma.
Burma.
Ah, alright.
There we are.
Anyway, the Karen language.
Karen culture.
There's so many memes that could be made from this.
So I got a message from a guy after Afghanistan who was like, oh man, I love your video.
You should come and do a video about these people.
So I looked him up.
They're conducting an insurgency against the government.
All right.
So I asked him, well, why and how?
And he said, well, we can't walk through the country of Burma to get to them.
So we'd have to go to Thailand and then walk through the forest, which is laid with mines.
But if you go on the path that's already known, we won't get blown up.
And I was just like, you want me to walk through a minefield to go meet the Karen people?
Sounds all right to me.
Imagine the views.
What views?
Who cares about the carrots?
This guy.
Imagine the views.
I didn't say it would be many.
Imagine the one view.
Imagine there's no views.
It's easy if you tried.
Anyway, moving on to the AI.
Yeah, let's go through a few of these.
We've got a minute left.
So Joan of Arc says, raise your heads if you hear Callum spit bars.
Raise your hand if you want to hear Callum spit bars.
Not gonna happen.
In the chat, everybody, raise your hands.
Well, then put them down.
The letter M is for misspelling, says Harry and Callum are just testing the studio audio for the new studio.
Yep, pretty much.
Yeah, apparently there was no time for testing, which didn't make any sense, but... CaliforniaRefugee says, as a massive fan of Freddie Mercury's singing, I will listen to every AI song he covers now.
Yeah, I told you, man, it's actually surprisingly good.
I'll have to go back and play it just in a minute when we're done, but otherwise, we're out of time, so if you want more, You know where to go.
You're already here.
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What are you asking me for?
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