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	Hello and welcome to the podcast The Lotus here for the 28th of March 2023.
	I'm joined by Dan.
	Hello.
	And today we're going to be talking about the Biden economic scorecard.
	Well, this is going to be completely forgotten and cyclists must go, which yes, they must.
	Hopefully not a genocidal manifesto.
	Because when I had Harry, I'll talk about cyclists.
	I feel like he was a couple of points away from getting there in the end.
	Well, I mean, yeah, you've got to do it humanely, obviously, but no, they must go.
	Okay.
	Dan, I'm for humane genocide.
	I'm not for inhumane.
	Well, I know you do.
	There are other methods that we can use.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm not getting radical here.
	I'm just saying that cyclists must go.
	It's reached that point.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll find out about the camps later.
	So we'll start off just by mentioning something on nosies.com that's coming out.
	So this is the R-Cyberpunk Dystopia Part 6.
	God, we've done a lot.
	This is coming out at 3.30 UK time.
	I'm stumbling because I'm like, oh god, I do not want to do this.
	Yeah, so 3.30 tomorrow, it's live.
	But I've... I don't know if you've seen it.
	Basically, it's just Cole showing me things that are going to make me upset.
	And we're on our sixth episode of that.
	I don't know how many we have to do before I can find some chemicals.
	I've not watched one of these yet.
	Is it Cyberpunk is in the game or some other form?
	No, no, it's just the hell world we live in.
	Right, okay.
	Is the newest thing that's going to happen that's going to make life very bad.
	Right, OK.
	So if you enjoy that, come on down.
	Otherwise, let's begin with the banking crisis.
	Yeah, sure.
	So a couple of weeks ago, Karl and I, we took a look at the beginning of the banking crisis that was emerging.
	And since then, one of the major Swiss banks has failed.
	Credit Suisse has gone.
	That's been bundled into UBS.
	But the economy is still here.
	So we've got to ask the question, is everything fine now?
	Do we need to stop worrying and just get on with life?
	So I mean, on the other side of that, we've got Deutsche Bank, rumblings about that, about to fall into the sea, their shares are down about 15%.
	Lots of other conversations going.
	So the question that's being asked all over financial Twitter, I read it so you don't have to, is that, you know, is this canaries in the coal mine?
	Or is this something else?
	Is that we're just making a big fuss over nothing?
	Now, before I get into that, it is worth pointing out, as we have Recently been demonetized.
	I do urge all of you who are watching on YouTube, why don't you just come over to LotusEaters.com?
	You can watch the whole podcast there.
	You get the uncensored version, you get the fuller version, you get the banter before and after, and you don't have to pay anything if you watch it on the website.
	But you could if you like, Pay an extra £5 and then you get access to all the premium content such as we've got a series on history from Beau which is covering Loosemarians in this episode but there are plenty of others, loads of content on there so check it out.
	Right, so back to the financial drama that is rumbling along in the background.
	So this is a big debate that the finance people are having at the moment.
	Is it canaries in a coal mine or is it fine and do we not need to worry?
	Now, the arguments against this is, you know, that Credit Suisse and Silicon Valley Bank, they were bad banks, and therefore you don't need to worry.
	So this is the equivalent of people in the coal mine saying, yep, two of the canaries have dropped dead, but they were probably the illest ones, and therefore we don't need to worry, we can get on with this.
	Well, we've got an interesting study that's come out, so let's have a quick look at this.
	This is a study that's recently been put out from a bunch of fairly sensible universities.
	I don't know what Southern California is like, but I hear Northwestern's got a good reputation, Columbia and Stanford.
	Now, they've been looking at these 4,000 banks In the US.
	And there is an essential problem that you've got in the US at the moment with their financial system, and that is their banking system has been forced by regulators into holding US treasuries, which is US debt.
	And it's been forced into holding these mortgage-backed securities, because these are supposed to be some of the safest stuff that they've got.
	And we know that they're sitting on losses, collectively, of about $620 billion.
	Which is quite a bit of money.
	And we know that of the total assets that the US banking sector holds, about 18 trillion, half of that is nominally uninsured, although there's only enough insurance to cover a tiny, tiny fraction of that amount.
	And the big thing, which is what this segment is really going to be about, is about the incoming property value crisis that they're going to be facing.
	And that's going to be increasingly relevant as we get into this.
	This study, they looked at these 4,000 banks and they ran the numbers, which is a bit difficult to do because these numbers aren't put out quite as clearly as they could be, and they came to the conclusion that about the average bank is sitting on a loss of about 10% and 1 in 20 banks are sitting on a loss of 20%.
	Now you might think, well what does that mean to me?
	Why is that relevant in the slightest, these notional losses that they've got on their balance sheet?
	Well what it means is if there was an honest accounting and you tried to get your money out of the bank, For every dollar you had in there, you'd only get 90 cents out in the average bank.
	So it does matter to you.
	And if you're in one of the 1 in 20 banks, you'd only get 80 cents out for every dollar that you had in there.
	So it does matter.
	And it is worth looking at how well capitalized these are.
	And the essential difference is that because of the economic problems the US has been having, because it's got so massively into debt over the last 50 years, is that the last time an aspect of this started to blow up, they started to ramp up interest rates, which has left banks in the fundamental problem that they can no longer make money.
	The reason that the banks normally make money is something called the yield curve, which, yeah, I'll explain it nice and simply.
	It is simply to say the yield curve should look like that.
	It should be that short-term money is reasonably cheap, because if I'm going to lend you money for a short period of time, I probably don't want much return on it.
	If I'm going to lend you money for a long amount of time, I want more return on it.
	So that's how banks make their money, is people put their money into the banks, right?
	And if it's in there, like a deposit, you can take it out the next day.
	So the idea should be that you get a relatively small return on short-term deposits.
	And then banks make their money by lending their money out long-term, like mortgages and business loans, that kind of stuff.
	And that has a higher rate on it, and so the banks simply make money because they have short-term deposits at a low rate, and they make money by doing long-term loans at a higher rate.
	Banks make money, right?
	And because of that, you don't have to pay for your bank account.
	You get free banking, and you get all of the other services that come along with it, and you even started to get to the situation where you started getting perks for your bank account.
	You get free cinema tickets or some guff like that or whatever it is, services they decided to give you.
	I've been missing out.
	I've never got anything from them.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you have at least got free banking from them.
	I got 0% interest.
	I don't feel like it's even worth it.
	Yeah, but you're not paying for the bank as a service like you do Netflix or something like that.
	Yeah, but they're making money off my money.
	Well, they used to be.
	That was the idea.
	But this Ilka thing, it's got to be inverted.
	So now, short-term money is more expensive than long-term money.
	So banks are basically, they would go out of business if they reflected this honestly.
	So the problem is that they're having to artificially lower the rates.
	So you do, you do get 0% rates in your bank.
	But what people have been realising is because these interest rates have shot up, you can take your money out of the bank.
	I appreciate you're a Zoomer and therefore having masses of money in the bank probably isn't a huge concern, but let's say you were a boomer, let's say you're your grandparents' age.
	In that case, well, a lot of these people do have lots of money sitting around in the bank and they're starting to realise that they can take it out of their bank and they can put it in a money market fund and get 5%.
	So money is draining out of the banking sector and going into money market funds where they can get 5% instead of 0%.
	And this sort of, you know, the tide is coming down and we're starting to see the situation that these banks are in.
	So all of this money is starting to flow out and it causes a bit of a problem because What this study does is it looks at it and says, OK, what would happen if a bank run were to start to occur where people start to take their money out?
	So what if half the people who had their money in these banks decided to leave and to follow that, which is a process which is increasingly happening?
	Now, what they found is that if just 10% of people did this, Then 66 banks in the US would fail.
	So this is a lot bigger problem than just Silicon Valley Bank and Credit Suisse in Switzerland.
	And then they looked at, okay, what would happen if 30% of people took their money out of the banks?
	Well, then 106 banks would fail.
	So I guess my point here is that the banks are at significantly greater risk than you are being told by, you know, the sort of regular mainstream media sources on this one.
	But what's most concerning is that the 10 banks in the biggest trouble, they're rather large.
	They're some of the biggest ones.
	In fact, all of the 10 at most risk banks have assets over 50 billion.
	And actually, one of them has assets over a trillion.
	So it's one of the largest banks.
	Now, there are only six banks with assets over a trillion.
	They're JP Morgan, Bank of America, Citi, Wells, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley.
	And we know that one of them is potentially in trouble.
	So the question then becomes, well, how can you work out which of these is potentially the bank in trouble?
	Well, I mean, it's very difficult to know because they obfuscate this data as much as they can.
	But what I would note is, here's an interesting tweet.
	So CNBC, which is the main financial news channel in the US, has suddenly decided to delist credit default swap information for five banks, including JP Morgan and Bank of America.
	So somebody's leaning on them.
	This is a crisis which is rumbling along in the background, and everybody is trying to make sure that you don't find out about it quite as much as you should.
	Now, what is the bigger problem here?
	What is the bit that I sort of hinted that's not being talked about at the moment?
	Well, it is starting to get talked about, and I'll let Raoul Pal explain what that problem is.
	The reason I have to undertake QE is the banks, particularly these regional banks, small and medium-sized banks, have another big issue on their balance sheet, and that is they are the largest lenders to the commercial real estate market.
	Now, if we go back to when we first spoke at the beginning of the pandemic, at that point, we were all going to the office.
	I was in New York when I saw you, because I was going to the office, and we had 60 odd people in our office at Real Vision.
	Now we've got three people in our office.
	We've downsized once, and we still only have three people in the office, and we can't get out of our damn lease.
	And everybody's got the same issue.
	Nobody's going back to the office.
	The world has changed.
	We can all work remotely.
	So we used to do interviews like this in person, now we do them over Zoom.
	So then we've got massive amounts of commercial real estate that are basically empty.
	And the numbers are a bit weird because you also need to realize that empty office space that's registered is entirely empty.
	But actually, most people are trapped into leases where they've got 10% of their workforce going in.
	So as soon as those leases come up, people are going to tip those out too.
	So we've got a second bomb to hit these smaller banks, and that is this real estate market.
	And the real estate market is going to be illiquid, and chances are it's not going to get solved.
	I mean, I spoke to one of the biggest managers of commercial real estate for one of the biggest pension funds in the United States, and he's like, they're going to bulldoze over this stuff in the end.
	Right, so he's explaining there why commercial real estate is in such trouble and the reason they're going to have to bulldoze a lot of this stuff is because even though you can convert some of it into residential, actually it's really difficult with a lot of this commercial stuff because there's a lot of regulations, also there's plumbing issues and there's like a thousand and one other reasons why.
	How much do you actually need, etc?
	So it is very difficult to convert a lot of this stuff over.
	So that's why so much property he thinks in the Western world, particularly in the US, is going to get bulldozed over the next couple of years.
	So this is a real time bomb that is ticking away in the background.
	Let's have a look at this tweet from the CopperSci letter.
	They're pointing out that over the next five years you've got a huge amount of debt secured on property.
	They're talking about two and a half trillion there, which is going to mature.
	Now when that debt matures it's going to need to get rolled over because presumably whoever bought this property hasn't been saving up on the side to buy it outright.
	We are in a debt-fuelled economy.
	So this vast amount of money and this is the largest amount of money that's ever been sort of rolled over on this debt basis in any five-year period in history as they're saying here.
	A vast amount of this debt is going to need to get rolled over and last time they took out these loans they're probably doing it like 0% or 1% something like that some some tiny percentage.
	Now they're going to be doing it like 5%.
	And so the interest charges that they're going to be facing are going to be absolutely crippling and on top of that the stuff that it's secured on is only sort of occupied officially at sort of you know 60 or 70 percent and as Rao was pointing out actually a lot of it is that's going to go significantly lower when people get to the end of their leases as a lot of people work convert over to work from home and other sort of arrangements that you can do these days.
	So this is, I think, is going to be a substantial problem for, well, Western economies, US economy coming up.
	So, you know, have a think about whether you want to secure some of your net worth in things that are out of the banking system like gold or Bitcoin.
	You can take your choice on that.
	But you might think, OK, well, you know, that's just that's somebody else's problem.
	That's that's rich people's problem or that's the US's problem or something.
	Therefore, I don't need to worry about.
	So just in case you are our core audience in the UK, let's bring it back to you to try and worry you as well.
	So let's go to this next link, which is looking at this.
	This is I mean, this is this is a problem that not a lot of people are talking about.
	So I had to find some fairly obscure publication to pick up on this.
	But one of the things I'm aware of is councils.
	They own a lot of property, and the reason being is because they noticed about 10 years ago that they could borrow money from central government for basically the same cost as government, so basically nothing.
	And then what they could do is they could go out and buy offices, and they could earn a 3 or 4% yield on that.
	So they had basically an unlimited amount of money that they could borrow, 0%, turn it into property, generating 3 or 4%, and that would take care of their budget problem, because the money that councils were getting from central government was going down.
	So they had either the choice to do this or stick your taxes up.
	Well, their property portfolios are going to be potentially in significant trouble soon, because if they've put it into, say, office property, and then the value of that property, well, first of all, the loans on those are going to have to be refinanced whenever they come up at significantly higher rates.
	And also those properties themselves, if some of them start having to get bulldozed, the value of those will fall significantly.
	So where's that going to land?
	That's going to land back on Council taxpayers, which isn't going to be too much fun.
	Let's scroll down a bit on this one because there is a table there that shows some of the councils that are in the biggest trouble on this.
	So reading from this website, one of the biggest concerns is the scale of debt accrued to the four smallest local authorities in England.
	Four of the smallest, not the smallest.
	Including Spellthorne, Council and Surrey, which says it is heavily reliant on investment income for the services it provides.
	Spellthorne so far has borrowed £1 billion, despite having an annual budget of just £22 million.
	So the debts that it's got is 22 times.
	Yeah.
	You've got to wonder how that's even allowed.
	Well, I think the government did clamp down on it a bit a couple of years ago, but I mean, the councils really got into this.
	And the government was perfectly happy to- They're actually mad.
	Yeah.
	And the government was perfectly happy to do this, because what they wanted is they wanted to lower the amount they're sending to councils.
	So they didn't necessarily mind how councils were making up that difference.
	They were doing it by buying office property.
	And the idea was, well, of course, that's never going to go wrong, is it?
	You know, safest houses, office property.
	Unless you suddenly have a pandemic where everybody learns the virtues of working from home and the value of office property falls.
	And at the same time, the cost of refinancing your loan goes from 1% to 5%.
	So yeah, so it is not only a time bomb for the US banking sector, it is also a time bomb for anybody in England who lives within the reach of a council and has to pay council tax.
	So that's not good.
	Next tweet is from Jim Bianco looking at this.
	So the last two years of economic woes that we've had have been basically all about the Federal Reserve trying to do something called quantity tightening, the opposite of quantity easing, because they said, you know, the era of loose money has come to an end and we're going to be financially responsible now.
	So that lasted about 18 months, and in the space of this last couple of weeks, two-thirds of quantitative tightening has been reversed.
	So that return to normality that they promised was coming, the end of easy money, that is rowing back.
	And there's an active debate on financial Twitter at the moment about whether this counts as quantitative easing or not.
	I'm on the side that says yes, it basically does, because even though they're saying it's temporary, you know, they're not going to be in any better situation a year.
	This is going to be a permanent expansion of the bank's balance sheet, so financial prudence has gone out the window.
	So this is not looking good for Western economies.
	It's not bad for everybody, though, because some people have been isolated from the Western banking system.
	Let's go to the next tweet.
	This was a, if you want to go to the man talking there below, so this chap used to be heavily exposed to the Western financial system but Biden decided to isolate him from it about a year ago and he's basically developing alternatives to this at the moment and he gives a very interesting speech there basically explaining how the Western system has gone and shot itself in the foot because really the
	The biggest power of the US was never really its military, it was its dollar.
	The dollar has basically given it a free income, it's given it free energy, it's given a free credit line to it so it can run up vast amounts of debt while spending huge amounts of money on itself, including its military.
	The military power follows the economic power.
	And they've shot themselves in the foot because they've basically given everybody in the world an incentive to get off the dollar.
	Now, to give you an example of how precarious this situation is starting to be, even though it's not talked that much about in mainstream circles, it is starting to permeate.
	So I'm going to show you a clip from a CNN chap.
	Now, CNN is, of course, it is regime central.
	So nothing is getting discussed on CNN unless it's already been through the mill in the back rooms at this point.
	Listen to what the regime is now warming you up for.
	Here's my take.
	The most interesting outcome of the three-day summit between Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping got limited media attention.
	Describing their talks, Putin said, "We are in favor of using the Chinese yuan for settlements between Russia and the countries of Asia, Africa and Latin America." So, the world's second largest economy and its largest energy exporter are together actively trying to dent the dollar's dominance as the anchor of the international financial system.
	Will they succeed?
	The dollar is America's last surviving superpower.
	So, that's the start of his segment.
	He then, of course, because he's on CNN, he has to then go through this long bit about why Biden is absolutely fantastic.
	Learn how Donald Trump is really to blame.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Light clockwork, isn't it?
	Yes.
	It is utterly unconvincing, the middle part of the segment, so I cut it out and let's just go to the last bit of it now.
	If it is, Americans should worry.
	I spoke last week about the bad geopolitical habits Washington has developed because of its unrivaled unipolar status.
	It's even more true economically.
	America's politicians have gotten very used to spending seemingly without any concern about deficits.
	Public debt in America has risen almost five-fold from roughly $6.5 trillion 20 years ago to $31.5 trillion today.
	The Fed has solved a series of financial crises by massively expanding its balance sheet almost 12-fold from around $730 billion 20 years ago to about $8.7 trillion today.
	All of this only works because of the dollar's unique status.
	If that were to wane, America will face a reckoning like none before.
	So, you've got to think, if that's what the regime is gently warming people up to, you know, how bad are the conversations behind the scene?
	It can't be good.
	I thought it was worth touching on this, because even though you're being told through mainstream sources at the moment that, you know, don't worry about the banking crisis, because it's all disappeared, it's all in the background, you don't need to worry about it more.
	It is very much live.
	It is brewing under the surface.
	And just, you know, take care with that.
	Now, one final thought.
	I don't know if this means anything entirely speculative, but basically I fed everything that I had into chat GPT-4 to see if it could predict... Tell me what the next 10 years of policy is going to be.
	Yeah, when the big financial collapse was going to come and it told me 2033.
	So, we've got a bit of time.
	It's all going to grind slower until then, so you, you know, struck up on beans and baseball bats before then.
	Love all the tours you go to.
	Just get some more baseball bats, trust me.
	Always be useful.
	Based.
	Let's go to the thing that'll be completely forgotten by tomorrow.
	So that's gonna be completely forgotten, and in case you're wondering, yeah, it's another shooting.
	It's America.
	It's another day.
	The shooting was wrong.
	It was one of the bad ones.
	Not like one of the good ones.
	You know the good shootings?
	What are the good shootings?
	Well, it's where everyone gets to sit around and talk about how guns should be banned because a white man did something.
	Therefore, it's a good shooting.
	We can actually politicise that.
	Whereas this is one of the bad ones that everyone has to forget immediately.
	I've heard this one.
	How bad is it, this shooting?
	I don't think it's particularly unusual in terms of the shooting itself, in terms of victims, etc.
	But it's not a school shooting, is it?
	Like three or four people?
	The suspect was the wrong suspect.
	Oh, I see.
	So, that's the problem.
	Right.
	But we'll start off just by mentioning something on lursis.com, being Aldous Huxley's Brave New World book club, which is, you know, dystopian as hell, and the American gun debate.
	It's not a gun debate, what am I talking about?
	It's the American shooting debate, the mass shooting debate that happens every so often, that just nobody learns anything, everyone talks past each other, And where's the fault?
	I mean, primarily, I would agree with the Republicans.
	It's the Democrats every goddamn time.
	Just don't listen to any of the data.
	And we'll see that.
	Because if you go forwards, there's been another school shooting in the United States.
	Another day.
	There's one in this school.
	Yeah, you can see some pictures here from the police showing that they also shot the cops, the suspect here.
	And if we go to the next link, we can see that they killed some kids and some adults.
	Oh God.
	So those are the details.
	You've got three kids, all age nine.
	Three adults, who are all 60 plus, at a Catholic school.
	Okay.
	It's awful.
	Yep.
	And then, well, you can like chat GPT, just instantly predict what the conversation is going to be, before you even have any details.
	Well, I didn't really follow this, because I was on other things, because this is very recent news, isn't it?
	It was only yesterday that this came out, so I noticed that it happened, but I can guess what you're going to tell me is that immediately this became an anti-gun thing.
	Well, if you go to the right wing, their immediate response was to point out, okay, let's actually talk about mass shootings.
	Now here's some data.
	If you go to the next link, you can see some of that horrifying data on mass shootings.
	And of course, well, that conversation can never be had.
	So the old data just goes in the bin.
	No one listens.
	I didn't realise that was... Standing there with their D in their hand because no one's listening to the data.
	No one cares.
	Hang on, I'm on Twitter and it's supposed to be an angry white man issue.
	Yeah, it's not.
	Right.
	Okay, if you ever want to take a look, there's actually another website I found in the middle of one of the Vox articles I'm about to feature.
	They have a link that shows you all the mass shootings this year.
	And I just played a game.
	You know what the game is?
	You hit offender, and it gives you a description of the offender.
	I just hit it with like five different random shootings throughout the country.
	Didn't notice any patterns, I'm sure.
	Yeah, anyway, so that's the data.
	No one's going to listen to the data.
	No one cares.
	You expect also the right wingers to talk about mental health.
	Which is accurate, because if you have a unique problem that other countries that have guns don't have, such as people walking into schools and shooting them up.
	Well, because Switzerland, don't they?
	I mean, they have basically an assault rifle in every home, because they have a military instead of a military.
	And they don't have the mental health crisis the Americans have.
	Yes, and they have basically no shootings.
	So, I mean, that's the usual right-wing thing you expect, and they tried, but that didn't go far.
	Because here's the left-wing response, which is guns, guns exist.
	So this lady here, pointing out that this is a Christmas card from some Tennessee politician.
	Look, him and his family of guns.
	Well, presumably none of those are the shooter though.
	No, weird that.
	Yes.
	Not sure how that was relevant.
	But I don't know if little Timmy was the one who did this yet.
	We'll find out in a minute.
	We go to the UK debate, which was even more stupid.
	You have here Otto English, who is shocked because some American came on TV to talk about the fact that, well, maybe the teachers should have guns to protect themselves, because the school was a gun-free zone.
	So, interestingly, I think one of the first attempted school shootings was in Texas.
	And this was like in the 60s or something.
	And basically, I think he shot like one person and was trying to shoot more people.
	But what happened is all the teachers and students went to their cars and took out their gun and dealt with the shooter very quickly.
	Yeah, it's the obvious solution to the American problem.
	In the American context, what can actually solve that?
	And it's like, well, we know.
	Everyone knows.
	Just everyone's a bit screamish about accepting the fact.
	I mean, the school in this case was a gun-free zone.
	So there were no guns.
	Yeah, that protected them.
	We'll get the next one here because Vox came out with, yeah, yeah, it was a gun problem.
	America's Unique Enduring Gun Problem Explained.
	Here's all the details about how the gun did this.
	I don't know if you're going to mention this, but the other news that I did see yesterday is that Rand Paul Starfer got stabbed in DC.
	So presumably the argument there was... It was the knife.
	It was the knife that did it.
	Yeah, it was the knife's fault, not the gun's.
	America's Unique Enduring Knife Problem Explained.
	Yeah.
	The Young Turfs came out with... Yeah, it was the guns.
	Guns did it.
	Eh.
	Yeah.
	You got Cenk Uygur.
	A Christian school was shut up in Nashville.
	Seven killed, including three children.
	Are the heartless Republicans gonna say it was because the kids didn't pray enough?
	No, it's obviously the guns.
	But even this won't move a single Republican politician to do the right thing.
	Just the immediate response from some rightist.
	Mental health.
	Just can we please talk about how insane Americans are?
	I mean, I was having a conversation the other day with Josh, actually, about the fact that just the American...
	Attitudes to mental health are so weird.
	It's such a strange country.
	Why does everyone have therapy?
	I mean, it's such a weird, unique thing, right?
	Well, I assume that was a sort of a Californian women thing.
	I don't know if everybody has therapy, do they?
	But it's such a higher rate than any other country.
	Right, yes.
	Even with what you would expect to be worse mental health conditions because of trauma.
	But, whatever.
	Just a whole other thing.
	ChatGPT can do therapy as well, so maybe that will help.
	You know what the White House had to say?
	Uh, go on then.
	It was the guns.
	Yeah, alright.
	The gun did it.
	Fair enough.
	Who's shocked?
	There you are.
	This is the diversity hire just saying, ah, assault weapon ban, huh?
	How about that?
	That'll solve it.
	MSNBC, they had a unique line of, it was the gun.
	Oh right, okay.
	It was the guns that did it.
	I'm starting to spot a, yeah, trend.
	Getting a bit boring at this point.
	Just how clockwork everything is in the United States whenever this happens.
	There's just a whole left-wing system.
	Just immediately goes, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns, guns.
	Okay.
	Do you know any of the facts?
	Do you know who did it?
	No.
	Do you know why they did it?
	No.
	Why is it the gun, then?
	Yeah.
	I still don't know who did it, actually, so... No.
	Well, we'll go forward and find out, shall we?
	Because there was someone who had the worst response, David Pakman.
	Very surprising that there would be a mass shooting at a Christian school, given that a lack of prayer is often blamed for these horrible events.
	What?
	It was possible that they weren't praying enough, or correctly, despite being a Christian school.
	That's not the right response to kids getting shot.
	To poke fun at their prayer.
	Right.
	I'd love to see him do that with the next mosque shooting.
	But we'll go to Reddit.
	Reddit had a theory.
	Multiple victims reported in a Nashville school shooting.
	Better protect those kids from drag queens and trans people.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, I guess you can do both.
	This is where things... Hm.
	I won't ruin it.
	You go to the next, uh, link here.
	Because, um... Local moron.
	Oh, we featured her a lot.
	Thank God Tennessee protected the children from so-called horrors of drag and gender-affirming care, so they can get shot up by an AR-15 instead.
	There was the gun that did... Hang on a minute.
	Okay.
	Why did they do it?
	Who were they?
	Um... Well, I mean, I'm guessing that the people you've been talking about so far are hoping to God that it's a right-wing nationalist.
	I think there's some kind of... You know, the sort of person who tries to stop you going from a drag show, that sort of thing.
	I think there's a kind of sick humour.
	So I'm an atheist, but I think there is a god now, and I think he's the sickest, humorous person in the world, and we'll just wait until...
	the morons who can't help themselves but ambulance chase come out with their theories about who's done it this time and that'll be the exact opposite as you can see here in this case oh that's no that's not good it was a woman who identifies as a male a he him yes right so it was a woman at shop some also it's a trap oh i always get these two confused it's a trans man yes it's it's whatever they say they are they're not so trans trans man is a woman who wants to be a man
	And you know, breaking the deceased mass shooter in the Christian school in Nashville has been identified as a trans person.
	Blah blah.
	Yeah.
	Hell's Archpaid was LGBTQ theme works.
	Okay, so not exactly the sort of person who would try and stop your kid going to a drag show then.
	No.
	Well, except by shooting them.
	I just, it really is actual clockwork, the way America works in regards to these things.
	It's just, everyone brings out their talking points before they have any facts.
	Usually someone will say something really stupid, such as the previous examples.
	This all reminds me of the, was it the Facebook shooter or something?
	One of the big tech companies, they had a shooter go in and exactly the same thing happened.
	All this, and at the time, the issue was all about immigrants of colour and something like that, and women.
	I bet some far-right typers shot up the place because YouTube demonetized them.
	And then it was a vegan Iranian leftist who made really weird content and she was demonetized.
	So she went with a handgun and I don't think it was actually successful in killing anyone except herself.
	Right.
	Because... Wow.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so there you are.
	If you scroll up, I'm gonna have to blur that footage.
	We can't show that on YouTube, I don't believe.
	No.
	I mean, it is horrible, but...
	It's just so boring for me.
	Yes, it doesn't completely dispute the whole mental health thing, does it?
	No, and we can't talk about mental health now because the person is trans.
	Yes.
	I'm not joking.
	YouTube's Terms of Service, because they're written in a certain way, people can go and read them in their own time in regards to how they think about protected characteristics, this person is perfectly mentally sane, we have to say, because of YouTube.
	Oh, right, okay.
	Well, we wouldn't want to be demonetised a second time, so yes, she's clearly the paragon of sanity, this person.
	We can't talk about mental health because, I mean, this is just the insanity of assuming that people who are protected groups are not human, but instead angels.
	Because I know.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	They're human beings.
	All kinds of situations that I can't talk about because of goddamn YouTube censorship.
	But there you have it.
	There's the news.
	Well, it's time for the media, isn't it?
	Because, of course, well, they all jumped on it.
	It was the gun.
	It was the gun.
	Oh, hang on a minute.
	Crap.
	This is something we now need to memory hole because we're leftists.
	Yeah.
	And I wonder if it's going to disappear as fast as that Facebook shooter.
	We'll go to the media.
	It's USA Today who decided to talk about the fact that sorry for misgendering the transgender school shooter.
	The number one concern in the newsroom.
	Right.
	Police on Monday said that the shooter was a transgender man.
	Officials have identified, sorry, initially misgendered the gender of the shooter.
	Oh, no.
	Well, that's awful.
	That's the real tragedy.
	It really is that Norm Macdonald joke.
	It's like, you know, if there was a nuke that went off by Islamic terrorists in New York City, I mean, the real problem would be that millions of innocent Muslims would be facing discrimination as a result of all those deaths in New York.
	Yeah, we go to the next one.
	We have New York Times, did the same thing.
	Main problem, misgendering.
	So this is literally a trans person marching into a Christian school and killing Christian children.
	Yes.
	And we're having a conversation about making sure we get the pronouns right.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I mean you can see why this is getting memory hold pretty fast.
	Yes.
	You may remember there was the guy who ran down all those kids at the uh, what was that, Christmas parade?
	In the car?
	Remember?
	That one got memory hold so long ago I can't remember the details of that one now.
	But it's, it's just, I am so out of just even things to say in regards to the American mass shooting or mass murder spree of just like, oh there's a news item.
	Does it fit the narrative?
	If yes, continue.
	If no, bunk.
	I mean, this is why you only ever hear, like, I think in that Vox article, they had a list, and they're like, oh, don't you remember all these events?
	And they listed, like, six events.
	And it's like, huh, yeah, it's because it's the only six that fit your narrative.
	Well, I mean, from that pie chart you showed me earlier, I mean, that was fairly instructive.
	A lot of them don't!
	Yes.
	Turns out quite a lot of them.
	Isn't almost all of them.
	Yeah.
	We'll go forward, because it's not just the New York Times who are most offended by the misgendering.
	We have, as you see here, two MSNBC articles, an ABC article, a CNN article, all reporting on the event, with no need to tell the viewer that the shooter was trans, as Endwokeness points out.
	So if it was not for Twitter.com, then we would know.
	If the shooter was wearing a MAGA hat, I wonder if that would get mentioned.
	Uh, every time, I think.
	You scream death is MAGA country.
	I think people will just believe you that it happened.
	CNN, they go in trouble.
	Someone pointed out that apparently they did end up misgendering the shooter.
	How could they?
	Inexcusable.
	The real crime in all of this.
	Not at a time like this.
	Yeah, let's go to the next link so you can see that.
	I mean, just the absolute state of this individual as well.
	Five times CNN misgendered.
	No correction.
	Hamas shooting is horrible.
	Misgendering does not make it any better.
	Okay, I just...
	Three children and three adults working at a school are murdered, and that is the take.
	That's my main concern, says Karen.
	And that person will face no cancellation, no consequence.
	They wouldn't be banned off YouTube if they made comments to these effects.
	But have you paid your piper to the religion of the world, which is that we don't misgender the transvestites?
	Liberalism is this sort of weird emerging religion.
	Yeah.
	CNN ended up just deciding, trying not to talk about it.
	Instead, if you go to the next link here, it's just like, I'm a trans.
	I hate to think not, but there was a shooter.
	Just a shooter.
	Do we have a description of the suspect?
	A human.
	Good.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, CNN.
	It's just comically transparent every goddamn time.
	I didn't even want to cover this because I'm so sick of these kinds of events, but it's just the, Clockwork.
	Absolute clockwork.
	I don't know what more to say.
	Because it is just so goddamn routine at this point.
	It's just like, does it fit narrative?
	If yes, continue.
	Guns, guns, guns.
	Oh wait, it doesn't fit the narrative.
	Bury it.
	Bury it immediately.
	And amazingly, this wasn't the worst outcome.
	I mean, Pac-Man over there, I mean, tried.
	But Joe Biden managed to get the worst one.
	This is real.
	I thought this was fake.
	This is Fox News who decided, or they heard, that Joe Biden was going to address the mass shooting.
	And so they cut the footage of him, which they had been told from the White House, was him addressing the mass shooting.
	I remember Obama did this quite effectively.
	Yeah, let's play this clip.
	Bill, I'm sorry to interrupt.
	I'm told that the president is just approaching the podium now at the East Room of the White House.
	My name is Joe Biden.
	I'm Dr. Joe Biden's husband.
	And I ate Jenny's ice cream, chocolate chip.
	I came down because I heard there was chocolate chip ice cream.
	By the way, I have a whole refrigerator full upstairs.
	I think I'm kidding.
	I'm not.
	Ben, how are you, pal?
	one of the best guys in the United States Congress, Ben Cardin.
	Folks, uh...
	Yeah, that's real.
	It's a delight to have you all here.
	And who are those good-looking kids back there?
	Are your kids all four of them?
	Well, stand up, guys.
	That's how you respond to a school shooting?
	John, we'll jump back in here, considering the moment.
	There was a school shooting that just happened, left three children dead, three adults dead, shooters dead, and we were told he would be addressing this stuff off the top.
	Yeah, it's rather surprising.
	I thought that a somber President Biden would have come to the podium here and addressed the school shooting.
	That man needs to be in a nursing home.
	This is cruel.
	I mean, clearly some kind of major miscommunication at the White House, but they told the media he's going to address the shooting, so they cut to him and he does that.
	Okay, that's the worst response.
	Joe Biden would have needed at least an hour and a half of prep to do that.
	He must have been prepped to do one thing.
	This news came out and he couldn't deal with a change of narrative.
	It's like a Norm Macdonald skit.
	The Fox News guy at the end was like, I thought he was going to address the shooting, but he's talking about ice cream.
	Yeah, I mean that's probably the worst one.
	I think we've reached not good response number one.
	It could be worse though.
	Yeah, it's going to be hard to top that.
	The other guy tried.
	He tried to justify the shooting live on air as he learned about it, which was pretty weird.
	Let's play this one.
	This is from ABC News.
	The police chief also said that the shooter has been identified as 28-year-old female Audrey Hale.
	He said she's a former student of the school and confirmed that Audrey Hale identified herself as a transgender person.
	The state of Tennessee earlier this month passed and the governor signed a bill that banned transgender medical care for minors as well as a law that prohibited adult entertainment including male and female impersonators after a series of drag show controversies in that state.
	Oh, I guess fair enough then.
	Oh, so justify concerns then.
	Could you imagine?
	I don't know what the mirror image of that is.
	Exactly.
	Like, oh, a man walked into a synagogue and murdered about six Jews.
	Well, recently the Jews have been taking over and giving too much lip, haven't they?
	So, I don't know, if that's a Fox News recording?
	Yeah.
	Liberal American news is absolutely fascinating to watch.
	I mean, that's up there with fiery but peaceful when you can see the building burning down behind the guy.
	This is a thing as well.
	I wanted to leave this for more time to find out what the person's actual motive was because apparently they're in a manifesto but it hasn't been released and they've said nothing and they're in custody.
	They're not dead.
	I can sort of guess.
	Fake news there.
	But the guess as you can see there from the media is, well did you know Tennessee was trying to stop transitioning youths?
	Oh, I'm sure that means you can go kill some nine-year-olds then.
	That's justified.
	So, because the US has inculcated this insanity, they're actively sort of pushing it on kids, and then when you don't sort of, you know, let them carry the whole thing through to the insane conclusion, that is the bit.
	Because you basically stop them from doing the last 2%.
	The media will say around and be like, well, what did you expect?
	Of course you've got to kill some kids.
	Why wouldn't you?
	I mean, I would.
	What?
	What's wrong with you?
	What's actually wrong with you?
	Yes, not a good take.
	That's probably the worst.
	I think that probably is the worst.
	I don't know if Biden wins or they win.
	ABC News there.
	But the internet did its thing, as usual.
	As you see, we have Samantha Hyde, who's apparently the shooter for a while.
	Not true, in case you're wondering, but it is the case that the Sam Hyde meme just continues forever.
	If you go to the next one though we have the best argument which is that the shooter was the real victim and we have some reasoning.
	Shooter was a former student of the Christian school maybe his trauma started there.
	We all know how accepting and loving certain religions are of non-cis children.
	I don't think it was the Christian school that inculcated this person into that.
	Also, what a weird response.
	It's just like, you know, a woman kills three kids, so maybe they deserved it because they're bigots.
	Yes, yeah, maybe those nine-year-olds who were presumably three at the time that student was there was, um... Get some help.
	What's actually wrong with you?
	This is a real narrative as well.
	This isn't just like a few dumbass accounts.
	If you go to the next one here, this group put out a big old statement.
	I'm not going to read it all because it's trash, but... Transresistance.
	Yep.
	Right.
	Resistance against what?
	We don't know.
	Right.
	There's no actual...
	Reality, I would assume.
	Hale felt that he had no other effective way to be seen other than lashing out and taking the lives of others.
	Hate has consequences.
	I mean, I didn't expect this.
	I mean, the rest of this is clockwork.
	The weird... Well, maybe he did nothing wrong from transgender activists.
	Is another level of insane?
	I wasn't even sure we would ever reach this.
	And we have now.
	Which is that the shooting of children is justified if it's for the transgender movement.
	This is an emerging religion.
	It is insanity.
	I mean, if you wanted real evidence, as we spoke about, I mean, me and Carl did the Posey Parker segment yesterday.
	One of the big things was that you can see, yeah, Jordan Peterson was right.
	These people are properly, ideologically possessed.
	And in that case, will apparently do anything.
	And justifying murdering nine-year-olds is on the menu for these people, apparently.
	This is a sincere statement there.
	And also just the madness of being like, yeah, we're the most oppressed group on earth.
	Just go to the next image.
	I know this is a meme, but it's just so true as well.
	I'm not taking any of this.
	When they say they're the most oppressed group on earth, I mean, more than Christians who are being murdered en masse around the world in multiple countries at this very moment.
	But you see, one transgender person is, I think, murdered every year or every decade in the UK.
	So that's genocide.
	Yeah, but dozens of Christians are being murdered around the world every day.
	There was an ongoing and active prosecution.
	Yeah, but they're not like unicorns who are worth more.
	So it doesn't matter.
	Right.
	Okay.
	We're in the next one here because someone else came out with the big brain take that the Daily Wire were the real shooters.
	How did they get there?
	Benjamin over here.
	NBC has ID'd Nashville school shooter as Audrey Hale, 28, who identifies as transgender and has no previous criminal record.
	Nashville is home to the Daily Wire.
	A hub of anti-transactivity by Matt Walsh, at Ben Shapiro, at Michael Knowles.
	Wow, yeah, of course.
	Yeah.
	Ben did this.
	He was wearing a mask.
	Okay, so this is some NBC reporter here who actually wrote that, in sincerity.
	Oh, at NBC?
	This is not just some random... No, no, this is some journo working for the Cornwall Press.
	He's like, maybe Ben Shapiro did this.
	Oh, he's got a legacy blue tick and everything?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	It's just comical.
	There was some leaked photographs, there's no time to add it, I think Jeremy put it out in the corner, where there's the final message that the shooter had with someone, it was on Instagram, where the shooter is saying, it's because of my mental health.
	Obviously.
	At least they recognise it.
	I mean, we can't say that that's the case because of YouTube, but the shooter said it.
	Well, the shooter must be mistaken.
	Lucky they don't have a YouTube channel, otherwise they get demonetised.
	YouTube are stepping in the way going, no, no, no, no, no.
	I'm not kidding as well.
	We're not allowed to refer to any of this as a kind of mental illness problem because of the circumstances.
	It's mad what we have to deal with.
	Newsweek, I think, tried to be the centre of worst attention.
	They came out here, drag shows and gender affirming care for minors were banned in Tennessee this month, while assault weapons remain legal.
	I mean, I don't know how much of their own farts this author huffs.
	Presumably every single speck they can get their hands on.
	What's actually wrong with you?
	That's your response?
	They ban drag shows, but they still have guns?
	Okay, right.
	And also just, can we have a side note about the long, murderous violence that's in every part of trans rights rhetoric?
	I mean, we covered this briefly at the end of the Posey Park thing, and I can't not Keep saying yeah people need to stop paying attention because yeah it was kind of funny when the soy leftist was like haha I'm gonna I'm gonna murder all the writers but then they kind of keep doing it so because I mean early on in all this nonsense you used to get sort of uh what was it though the proud boys or something they they would go on a march and then you get these sort of antifa types turn up and they try and fight them only to discover very quickly that um soy boys do not do well against gym bros
	Yeah, but that was like the soy leftists.
	The trans movement is on another level.
	They obviously recognise that if they have problems with the Tennessee governor, attacking him isn't going to do any good, so they're going for the softest possible target, which is going to be a school.
	Defenceless children.
	Yeah, defenceless children.
	And of course, all of these schools have to be gun-free zones, so they become a magnet for anybody wanting to do a shooting.
	Yeah, I mean if you get that there, I mean the bottom left image is someone at some protest at the exact same time the shooting was taking place, as they stand there with their guns being like, trans rights or else, or else what?
	What are you going to do?
	Well, shoot kids.
	Apparently that's on the menu.
	If you go to the next one here, it's also just every possible opportunity, apparently, this has to happen.
	This is just some governor with a shirt that says protect trans kids with a knife.
	You're gonna stab people.
	Who tried to stop you from prancing children.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Or maybe the knife is what's used to assist them.
	I don't think we can say that, so we'll leave that there.
	We'll also go to the next one.
	Trans day of vengeance is a whole thing, apparently.
	You can see that there?
	Great.
	I mean, they keep telling you the rhetoric is that we're going to commit violence if you don't let us do what we want.
	I think it's time to believe them.
	There is a point where if people repeatedly tell you what they're planning to do, that you sort of need to listen to them.
	Yeah, and the last one here is just Tucker Carlson.
	Apparently he had one day of prediction before it became true.
	So it means the new Babylon B. Click on the left one there.
	We have Rainbow Youth Project USA.
	Tucker Carlson is afraid gun-toting trans people will start political violence.
	They want to be able to commit it, and they want you to be defenseless so you can't fight back.
	One day later.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's absolutely right.
	Well, there you have it.
	And then just the last thing here, we've got the next one, just to end off.
	I mean, it just keeps happening as well.
	It's not just America, of course.
	I saw this one.
	This is in the UK.
	West Yorkshire police account, genuine official government account, talking about how this woman here has been jailed for nine years for tying up a woman, committing sex offences and stabbing them.
	This is the perpetrator who they identified as a woman.
	Now they did delete this tweet and they got some criticism for deleting it but my take on that was well you see West Yorkshire Police have some of the very finest detectives in the country so no subterfuge no matter how subtle can get past them for long so they spotted what was up here and they deleted it after only a couple of days.
	But anyway, that's the news.
	The usual things the right would talk about, no one's going to care about.
	Are they right on this?
	Again, yes.
	The data is actually relevant.
	And just screeching about guns, it's not going to change anything.
	I don't know why this clockwork nonsense has to happen every couple of months.
	Just the same story, every couple of months, same thing.
	The left will jump to a conclusion that it won't be true, and then they'll get battered with reality, and then pretend it never happened.
	Well, I mean, reality has never been much of a concern for them, has it?
	Ah, there we are.
	Another day in the United States.
	Brilliant.
	How tragic.
	Right, well, on a lighter note, I've got some good news, because I have decided that cyclists must go.
	Now, apologies to any of those of you who are cyclists.
	This is going to be, obviously, a bit of a... It's the anti-cyclist manifesto.
	Yeah, a bit of a blow for you, I understand.
	But, no, this has to happen.
	I mean, we've even got cyclists in the office.
	Bossman Carl is a cyclist.
	And, you know, it was sort of alright when we had one of them, but then Harry started cycling and Pete started cycling, so, you know, it's spreading.
	And I'm just concerned that, obviously, it could get to me at some point.
	I owned a bike at one point when I was young, actually.
	Well, when you're young, that's fine.
	Okay.
	Perfectly sensible when you're a kid.
	Sort of like your punk phase or something.
	Yes.
	But then you sort of move past that.
	But, obviously, it's quite terrifying if it were to spread, because, you know, it takes me an hour and a half to get here in the beam.
	I mean, if I had to do it on a bike, it would...
	Yes, absolutely exhausting.
	I'd have to set out the following night.
	Right, before we get into that, just as a reminder, we have been demonetized by YouTube for... Do they give us a reason?
	Uh, no.
	Right.
	Well, we've been demonetised for no reason whatsoever.
	Presumably they don't like something about what we're about, even though we've committed no rule breach whatsoever.
	So, I do urge you to come and watch us on lotuseaters.com.
	You can watch the podcast for free there, and if you wanted to, you can pay £5 a month to support us, and you also get access to content such as this that went up very recently, which is our video games ban for your discussion on that.
	Hopefully not, because I tend to play them while I'm listening to podcast content and stuff, so...
	We'll see what the conclusions they came out of that one with.
	Right, so, cyclists.
	Why do we feel the need to have to talk about cyclists?
	Well, it's largely because of the efforts of one man, Jeremy Vine.
	Let's see... I mean, he puts his stuff out all the time, but let's see where this sort of conversation really picked up steam.
	Let's go to this.
	BOOM BOOM BOOM So every morning this guy basically cycled to work the cameras all over himself so that he can pick up on any fraction.
	BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM Now, that man needs to get in a fight or something, just so his life isn't so boring that he's doing this.
	Every single morning that guy he clips on his cycling gear he puts on his helmet and he starts because he's got cameras all around him he's got a camera basically hovering above him He's got cameras on the front, he's got cameras on the back, he's got body cams and all that kind of stuff and he cycles to work as fast as he can in order to get these reactions.
	Anyway, this guy's got a bit of a platform because he is a presenter on the BBC who gets several billion dollars a year because in the UK, you won't believe this, we have to have a license to own a TV.
	Which is extraordinary, and all of that money basically goes, apart from like 4% of it, all goes to the BBC, and pays huge wages of guys like this so that they get a big platform.
	Anyway, so he has been pushing this message, so he basically thinks that, and this is one example of many, so when we sort of saw that, that bus was, see, so there you go, so that bus started to turn from bloody there, That's where he was when the bus started to turn, and because of this- How could the bus do this?
	Yes.
	And bear in mind, the momentum on that bus, you know, whatever it weighs, like, I don't know, 20 tonnes or something like that.
	Whereas a bike, a bike is literally impossible to stop.
	I think they don't have brakes.
	I think it's illegal to have brakes on a bike.
	There's no way you could slow down and just wait for the bus to go, and then not be a prat.
	And the way the Twitter algorithm works, we have all been subjected to this story and this man.
	And I used to be fairly neutral on the whole cyclist issue, because I used to think, oh, it's just people getting to work or something like that.
	I mean, it's not the sort of thing that you have a strong feeling about.
	But because he's been pushing so many of these out, I've come to the conclusion that it's time to get radical with these people.
	I did like one of the responses to this.
	Sarah, she said under this, I'm a former bus driver, once the bus is in a turn it's very difficult to stop without causing risk to passengers.
	It seems from your video that the bus was already turning before you got close.
	It had to complete the manoeuvre and Vine's response to that was he has to wait, that's all there is to it.
	So buses, if they even see a cyclist 40 metres down the road, they have to stop.
	I hate everything about this, because I hate people who talk about traffic and bad drivers anyway.
	Just people who sit there and tell you about driving and how this man's done the driving bad and this man's done the driving good.
	And when they're driving, what's shut up about other people who are driving?
	You're just like, shut up and drive.
	Yep.
	Just shut up.
	It is awful.
	As one chap highlighted in the response, let's go to the Highway Code to see what the Highway Code says, because this is the big thing that cyclists always go on about.
	They always refer to this.
	They sit and they read this at home so that they can spout it at people.
	But actually, Mr Vine has missed something here.
	Let's go down to Rule 223, which basically says, yeah, You get into this arms race now, don't you?
	This is what I mean, this is what I mean about having the whole conversation.
	And I don't want to be that guy who has to go and read the bloody highway code, but look at that.
	Basically, buses get priority because they're big and heavy, and it takes them longer.
	Stay out of the way, you might get crushed.
	It doesn't matter if you're on a bike or a car, just stay the hell out of the way of the big thing.
	Right, now, in case you're not sold on how awful Jeremy Vine is, right, let's go to the next one.
	Let's go to his taxi one.
	Right, so here he is.
	He's hidden behind that van.
	Taxi pulls out.
	Well, I love how he zooms the camera in as well to make it look like the taxi's closer than it is every time.
	Now, that bus was perfectly reasonable.
	That taxi, can we just, let's play it again.
	Let's play it again.
	Because, you know, he was hiding him.
	Look, he's hidden behind a damn van.
	If he was following the van, he would have been seen.
	But no.
	Taxi can't see him.
	Taxi starts to pull out, as is reasonable.
	But this is the thing.
	I don't even like getting into who was in the right in this circumstance stuff.
	Because the whole thing is just, get a life.
	Yeah, or just slow down.
	Just deal with it.
	This is what I hate about his account.
	The whole thing is predicated on those people who would just endlessly argue about who was in the right in some traffic situation.
	One of the things that really, really enlightened me to how little this matters is being in Russia and being in Afghanistan and seeing the traffic conditions there.
	Yes.
	So Russia was the best one because there's no laws, just go to hell.
	Good luck.
	And in Afghanistan, not only is there no laws, everyone's car is completely scuffed.
	So it just doesn't matter if you bump each other either.
	Like I got in this taxi and I pull up the door, right?
	And the door against the curb.
	The taxi driver, he just looks at me.
	I'm like, oh crap, must be mad.
	Sit down.
	Oh crap, it's stuck.
	Its bottom is just wedged against the kerb.
	So I have to really pull it and it scrapes and makes a huge noise as I close the door.
	And you look at the taxi driver, if you'd done that in every other country, they'd be like, what's wrong with you?
	You've scraped up my car.
	And he just goes, oh, finally.
	And then drives off.
	Exactly the same in Delhi.
	You wouldn't believe the driving in Delhi.
	People just go wrong way round roundabouts.
	I mean, everything.
	I mean, just, there are literally no... Well, I suppose there are rules, but nobody follows them.
	Right.
	But then you just look at Western debates and you just say, oh, get a life.
	Oh yeah, it's tragic.
	Get a fight or something.
	So if you think the two that I've shown you so far are potentially debatable about who's in the wrong, let's watch this one.
	Cyclist flips off motorists, hits kerb.
	So you did see that the cyclist decides he takes umbrage to one of the drivers.
	Here we go.
	BEEP Back off!
	Oh no, how could this happen to me?
	I made my mistakes!
	So I don't know if flipping off drivers is on the highway code or not, but anyway, Vine is on the side of the cyclist in that one as well.
	Now I agree, it was a bit rude of the driver to use the horn, but you know, that's enough.
	So that's the debate.
	The purpose of using a horn is to say I'm there?
	Yes.
	Yes, fair point.
	Watch out.
	This is another thing.
	I hate road rage.
	Road rage is ridiculous to me.
	People are like, oh my god, he beeped a horn.
	It's like he's literally just saying he's there.
	Yeah.
	It's not FU.
	That's not what the means.
	Yeah.
	So this is the debate we've been having in this country for the last week, you know, driven by this.
	So here's another one.
	Let's go to the next one.
	This is, I don't think this is, oh yeah, this is from Vine.
	So let's click into this one and give this one a look.
	So this is somebody cycling along and I think this looks like a Polish van, judging from the...
	Now to be fair this is basically just a van driving past a cyclist who himself is driving, cycling past a cycle lane without using it.
	Sorry, there's a cycle lane right there and he's not using it.
	Yes.
	Why?
	Because he's a cyclist.
	I want to die?
	The rules, you know, they bend him.
	And this is the problem I have with this whole cycling thing.
	I urge for death.
	It's like they sort of want to be martyred or something like that.
	They can say, you know, I'm technically allowed to ride on the road and ignore the cycle lane and the rest of it.
	But, you know, if you do manage to get yourself killed on the road, well, congratulations.
	You see those memes?
	You're right.
	You know, car driver is a bit reckless, so then cyclist driver, and it just plays like the Japanese theme of Kamikaze, the song they would sing before they went and crashed into American ships.
	That's how I view that.
	If there's a cycle lane and you're not using it, it's just like, why?
	You're just increasing your chances of death, for what?
	Yes.
	I mean, I get this near where I live, because I live in, well, it's not a village and it's not a town, it's sort of halfway in between, and there's some lovely countryside sort of all around it.
	And every weekend, you know, the cyclists are all off going round these little country lanes and stuff like that.
	And presumably they love it.
	I mean, they wear all the sort of fetish gear as well, you know, the stuff that they do.
	And the thing is, the problem is... Do you reckon that's a real fash?
	Yeah, and near where I live, you drive, literally, you drive for like five minutes and you'll see literally a memorial to a cyclist.
	So there'll be a whole bunch of flowers by a tree or something like that, and then you'll drive another five minutes up the road and there'll be another whole bunch of flowers.
	um by the road and they're like a photo of somebody in their cycling gear or something and you drive another five and there'll be another thing you know so there's all these all these cyclists have been wiped out riding around these sort of country lanes now i'm sure cycling in in britain in the 1950s around country lanes must have been you know jolly good You know, Jolly Gay Day on, you know, for a Sunday or something like that.
	Yeah, you can see the cycling lane there.
	Yes, exactly.
	But I don't get it.
	Why do people want to do this risky habit when we've got this level of congestion, we've got this level of, you know, cars on the road, we've got this level of population, and there's just sort of their sheer insistence of doing this and ignoring cycle lanes, you know, stuff like that.
	Right, next one.
	This one, that infuriates me.
	Let's click into this one, right?
	So this council, I think this could be Hove or Brighton or something like that, anyway they've decided that they're going to turn all of their paths into cycle lanes.
	So this guy is whizzing past this family and they've got a small child with them.
	And he's getting called out for cycling at people far too fast.
	Now, on this one, you've got all of these cyclists in the comments below who are saying, you know, you're out of order for doing this.
	You can't just be cycling at people at speed.
	These people I think are absolutely right.
	Oh look, he's got a sign on his side, so you see.
	No I didn't, I slowed right down.
	No you didn't.
	So now you've sworn at me again.
	We're in the playground are we?
	Yeah, alright, okay, we can get over there.
	Right, so, I mean, that, I mean...
	This is exactly what I was talking about.
	Normie's arguing about traffic or whatever.
	This one does irritate me.
	But you can see it's obviously caused by the nonsense.
	What if we just turn all the paths into cycling lanes?
	Normies are going to bicker about it endlessly.
	Whatever council decided, but they want to be pro-cycling, so they're just going to turn all the walkways into cycling paths.
	Because that's the thing, if you actually want to do cycling, there's maps for this.
	You look at the Netherlands.
	If you actually want to build a cycling place, there is a roadmap for doing that.
	And it's not the weirdness that the British authorities always do.
	No, it's let's spend no money and just basically trample all over, you know.
	I've got young kids, I've got a three-year-old.
	Kids are really unpredictable.
	You know, they will often just swerve to the right or the left or jump to the right or the left for no particular reason.
	And if you're cycling past them at 15 miles an hour, you could wipe them out.
	And in that case, well, in this particular case, if you ran over my kid, I'm sorry, you're going in the sea and you're going to have to extract that bloody bike from... Well, anyway.
	Next one.
	So anyway, Vine came down the side of the cyclist for this guy as well.
	Really, did he?
	Yes.
	So he... Right.
	Here's another one from Vine.
	Let's go into this.
	We get this all the time.
	Woah!
	What the hell?
	Get a life, just get a life.
	I don't care who's on the right, just get a life.
	He maintains full speed so that he can then brake at the very last second and start swearing at them.
	But I'm sorry, it's again, I couldn't give a toss about who's on the right there, because I see that and I just think, pathetic middle-aged man, gets a job or something.
	Well he has got a job, he's on the BBC, getting paid £400,000 a year or whatever he gets paid.
	Yeah, so he doesn't have a job, so he needs to get a job.
	Because no one who has a job has time to sit around, covered in cameras, whining about how a car turned in front of them whilst they were... And the thing is, even if he is technically on the right, you've got to be aware... Listen, let's kill the sound on that one, but...
	Even if he is technically correct, I mean, you've got to remember, when I was a kid and, you know, cycling a lot more, you know, cars were different back then, because you've got these tiny little dividers around your car, you know, basically there's so much more visibility.
	If your car went upside down, I mean, you'd definitely be decapitated, so it had its downsides.
	But these days, you've got all these roll bars and you've got these big beams, and in a modern car, your blind spots are absolutely massive.
	Because they've got all these, you know, these heavy clunking beams all over the place.
	So, I mean, he's kind of... Yeah, he's in blind spot territory there, isn't he?
	So... But, you know, he won't slow down.
	Right, anyway, what's the next one we've got?
	Oh yeah, so this is a good one.
	So, let's click into this one because this is very interesting.
	So guy cycling on a tram line.
	Right.
	Vine shared that one, and he could, even Vine, couldn't bring himself to come down on the cyclist side for this one, but instead his take was if this guy was a driver it would have been even worse.
	So basically this guy is bad and therefore he must, you know, it would have been even worse if he was a driver.
	Yes, that's what cycling does to your brain.
	We go to the next one.
	So earlier we saw about how cyclists were not using cycling lanes or not using the road.
	So this bit is a council who decided, okay, what they're going to do is they're going to put up barriers to keep out cars, they're going to keep out scooters, motorbikes, all that kind of thing, so that pedestrians and cyclists can have their own area.
	And because this guy couldn't get into it without having to get off his bike and lift it over.
	It's like a little clown bike.
	You sit on the little wheels, your clown feet.
	Because he would have had to have got off about a second and carry his bike through by twisting the front slightly or lifting it up slightly.
	Seriously, how cool is that thing?
	Sorry I'm hanging on it, but I'm looking at it now just thinking, is that actually for a six-year-old or something?
	I don't know, I'm not really getting the sense of scale.
	It is pretty tiny, it looks like it, but yeah.
	60 centimetres tall!
	Even when you give the cyclists everything they want, if they have to slow down or get off their bike at any point, then they're enraged by it.
	And again, Vine was sharing this around.
	Right, okay, and this is where it gets really bad.
	So the next one.
	So this is a chap on, if nothing turns you against cyclists, if nothing makes you agree with me but they have to go, it's going to be this one.
	So this is a guy in London, he basically spends his entire day going around filming drivers trying to find somebody using their phone so he can get them prosecuted.
	Yep.
	So here he is saying that there's a really good cycle lane there.
	Who is worse, him or a mall cop who thinks he has the right to shoot people?
	Well, I think the Mall Cop is probably not going to shoot that many people, is he?
	But at least he's also a Mall Cop.
	Like, this guy's not anything.
	Yes.
	It's just annoying.
	Yeah.
	So he's not using the cycle lane that he admits because he's spending his time going around cycling next to stopped traffic.
	Because sometimes when people stop, they might touch their phone, like maybe they're using them as a sat-nav or something, and they update their route preferences.
	Or maybe they click on a message or something.
	Or maybe they're an Uber driver.
	I mean, all Uber drivers, they've all got phones, you know, attached up.
	I basically can't drive without a sat-nav.
	Yes.
	I don't know how much of a Zoomer problem this is.
	I genuinely don't know where to go.
	When I was your age, I used to have to get the map out in advance and basically write down on a piece of paper, you take this road and you take this junction and this kind of stuff.
	I remember having to do that when I was very young for my parents.
	I never wanted to live that life.
	I haven't done that for so long because of sat-nav that I wouldn't know really what to do now.
	But you grew up playing GTA and whatnot and that just has an inbuilt sat-nav.
	The idea of not having one.
	Yeah.
	I have to pull over.
	Yeah.
	I got nothing.
	Yeah, quite.
	Let's go on to this guy's profile, which I think is the next tab.
	I mean, look at this!
	He's reported a thousand drivers for 800 successful prosecutions in the last five years.
	And in 2022, I mean, he obviously went full-time on this, he was getting at least one driver a day.
	God, I wish we could do this, but to get rid of the legal immigrants.
	So, you know, these are going to be people who basically, you know, van drivers, taxi drivers, you know, people making a living.
	And he's best friends with Jeremy Vine.
	He's managed to get 800 people prosecuted because they touched their phone in some manner when they stopped it.
	Don't you want to bet he's the most interesting man in the world, though?
	I'm sure he's absolutely charming and lovely.
	He's got amazing stories about the things he's done with his life.
	I mean, endless anecdotes, witty, out-of-this-world things that not many people get to experience.
	It's not, he's a completely boring arsehole who'll just endlessly talk about the EU and cycling.
	I can't help noticing, but John has picked up on the fact that he's got, um, is that an EU flag or something?
	Yeah, that's his background there.
	Yeah.
	So, um... I just can't think of anything worse to be stuck talking to.
	He's gonna endlessly talk about...
	The Highway Code, as you say.
	Yes.
	And you're just going to look at him and be like... Or the prosecutions that he got, you know, the amount of small businessmen who now, yeah, their kids are going to go hungry and they're not going to get any Christmas presents.
	Yeah.
	Because he managed to get them banned from driving.
	It's your friend's wife's birthday and you've got invited and he's next to you on the table.
	I mean, you just don't want to be... I mean, obviously I would, if I knew this guy personally, I would definitely invite him to my next birthday party because I'm sure he'd be fun for exactly those reasons.
	But anyway, So for all of this, um, that's why cyclists have to go.
	Um, I think what we need to do is you, I don't know if you heard, but apparently they're going to be putting, um, they're going to be taking immigrants out of hotels and putting them on disused ferries.
	I think we need those.
	We need those ferries.
	We need to put, we need to put the cyclists on there.
	We can come back for the immigrants at a, at a later time, but this is a more pressing problem.
	So yeah, sorry, cyclists, you, you have to go.
	Another video comments.
	You know, personally, I've had the thought that, uh, I guess anime has been kind of the, what would I say, the revenge for the bombs.
	I don't know what you guys are talking about, man.
	It just seems like a way to advertise, I guess.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, that certainly works.
	I did see, you don't have to use the 2D girls either.
	There's some 3D girls.
	They exist, apparently.
	So there's a guy who took, like, music video scenes from Korean music video.
	It's like women dancing or whatever, right?
	And then just put hate facts on top, the flash up in between each transition.
	You know what hate fact is?
	No.
	It's a fact that cannot be said in mainstream media.
	Right.
	So... Okay, so an actual fact then.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But not a helpful one.
	The one that makes you go, oh, and basically as the girls dance, you get these hate facts on screen and you learn way more than you usually would because also you're looking.
	Where do you find this?
	I'll have to send you it, but you get pretty ladies and you get hate facts and within 60 second TikToks, that's a compelling marketing strategy to get the news out there.
	Anyway, let's go to the next one.
	Callum was asking me the other day about Chinese memes and since they pretty much live online yeah their meme game is very intricate and very deep and kind of hard to follow because of yeah like the cultural context and also because like they would use homophones the characters that have the same pronunciation but different meanings to evade the censors and one thing that surprises me a bit is you don't really see a lot of memes that lampoons like the West and the Baiduos which is weird given that the West is such a meme fodder at this point
	That's kind of interesting.
	Well, thanks for the report.
	Yeah.
	Because they have a term for right-left, don't they?
	Yeah.
	Bayo or something like that, or... I can't remember what it is.
	Bayzo.
	Bayzo, right.
	Yeah.
	I do find it funny, in Russia, their meme game is somewhat similar.
	There's actually a running theory that the Russian state has always been run by Queen Elizabeth.
	Sadly, because she's dead now, the meme sort of died.
	But the theory goes that, essentially, ever since the Soviet Union, it was all run by Queen Elizabeth from the back.
	She was in control of Stalin.
	She actually made the whole of them all happen.
	And I love your story that when you went to Russia, they refused to believe most of the stuff coming out of the West, like the trans kids stuff.
	They just thought the government was lying to them to make the West look bad, and you had to say, no, actually, it's all real.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Every time.
	If only it was, if only it was, yeah, a psy-op.
	Right, okay, um, edit, oh no, no more.
	Right, so, um, comments.
	We got one from Mr Saville here.
	We removed our kids from secondary school in Dorset after a speaker was invited to talk about sex to a whole hall of 7th, 8th and 9th year group all at once, in which my seven, uh, seven-year-old boy and his friend next to him were pointed at to the speaker and told statistically one of those two will rape a woman in their life.
	Jesus.
	Send that to a family guy.
	To sue 70, to sue 7-year-old boys.
	One of them goes, I won't rape you.
	The other one goes, I might.
	Act like a family guy.
	Our boy, who was very polite, well behaved and had great grades, took a few days to tell us, in which he burst into tears, asking us why he was going to rape a woman, as he doesn't want to.
	He wouldn't even rape a woman.
	Is this a green text?
	This didn't happen, surely?
	I changed my finances and now he goes to an independent school where there are no agendas left.
	Mummy, I don't want to be a rapist!
	Don't worry, son, you don't have to be.
	Statistically, you have to be, or your friend.
	Well, in which case, yeah, you just need to make your mate be the rapist, then you won't be.
	God, that's actual madness.
	That's some 4D chess.
	On the banking crisis, Justin B says, Dan, I picked up some gold after your videos on this, but I also want to diversify into crypto too.
	I intend to set up my own wallet.
	I'm tempted to just buy some exchange until I can set up a personal wallet.
	Can you recommend any sites creators to watch to get more information recommendations from?
	No, not really.
	I mean, if you're just doing the wallet stuff, I mean, just, you know, stick it into YouTube or something and you'll find some chap who's explaining that particular thing.
	But, you know, they don't tend to be particularly memorable.
	AK says, what is a credit default swap?
	Basically, it is a financial instrument to ensure your risk against something going down.
	So you use it on banks.
	So if the price of credit default spots is going up for a particular bank, that suggests that lots of people think that they're going to need insurance against that bank going down.
	Kevin Fox says, how many councils have big expenses coming through the news that some want to bring in this new recycling seven... Really?
	Seven bin scheme?
	Oh dear.
	And not only do they have to buy thousands and thousands of recycling bins, but I guess they just get asked to buy it, don't they?
	But yeah, they're going to need new trucks to avoid contamination.
	Yeah, those trucks cost about 200 grand each.
	So each council will need to buy fleets of new trucks for those.
	In fact, no, they won't spend 200 grand each because they want to make them electric now.
	So that'd be 300 grand.
	How much recycling do you do?
	Um, well I do a reasonable amount actually, but I just do, I have the one recycling bin and then like the not recycling bin.
	And that's, I could do that.
	Yeah.
	But if you ask me to split it into seven, I'm not doing that.
	No, that's, I'll just, you know, we can all go in one.
	The one best thing I do love about living an apartment life is there's no recycling.
	I haven't recycled since I lived with my parents.
	Yes.
	I've only ever just thrown it all in one bag and just thrown it in the trash.
	I'm living like it's in the 90s.
	Honestly, it's great.
	I would pay more council tax, so I'd never have to do that again.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you will be paying a lot more council tax, so there is that.
	If I could control Swindon Council tomorrow, I would make some sign-up scheme, where it's like, look, you pay double, and we'll come round, you know, double, The amount that we do for your bins at the moment.
	Yes.
	And you just throw it all in one bin.
	Oh yeah, everybody would go for that, but... Except for Nigeria.
	But yeah, no, councils don't work on the basis of what people want, do they?
	Right.
	Shall we go to your comments section?
	We need a councillor dictator show, that's all I'm getting at.
	So, Tish Potato says, it's really strange how radicalised these people get.
	Statements like, curb stomp turfs are portrayed in this really childish way, making it more acceptable, making it desirable.
	And I think it's because they view themselves as genuinely being victims of an active genocide.
	A statement from the right wing is murder, a bullet from a trans-elect activist is love and compassion.
	It is a good moment though, because the pastel colours which we've gone over as actively picked by the designer to represent children, the guy who made the trans flag, so you know the blue and the pink?
	Yes.
	So the guy who made that design, he was asked why he chose those colours and he said to represent young boys and young girls, not men and women, boys and girls, who are going to be trans.
	I mean, it is basically just working up to paedophilia, isn't it?
	There's some suspicions about its hard drives, but the idea that basically, because all of their stuff is always put in this childlike scene, where it's like, oh, we're just fun, like it's age play or something, the whole thing.
	Yes.
	And that, I think, is why they've been able to get away with this, because they're like, oh, we're just silly people having fun.
	It's like, no, you're literally saying you're going to decapitate me.
	I think you're not having fun.
	Yes.
	Baystapes says, unfortunately, something like this will only be a matter of time.
	The extreme levels of violent threats and wishes that come from trans activists, coupled with the spiraling rhetoric about not being given special privileges, and tantamount to genocide, is the perfect storm for terrorist radicalization.
	Hopefully the public are going to start seeing through the love and tolerance shield behind it.
	Yeah, I hope so.
	I mean, it is a total... I mean, he's right.
	It is a spiral, isn't it?
	Where you get all these beta men who couldn't make it as men, so they decided to dress up as women, and the first thing they do is go and start punching feminists.
	I mean, we're off YouTube now.
	All these people, in my opinion, at this point, I'm just looking and thinking, this is mental illness.
	I'm so... Oh yeah, blatantly.
	I might, because there was this, um, Josh has spoken about it, like in the American Psychological Dictionary... Oh, it always used to be a mental illness, didn't it?
	Yeah, it was, and then it's not.
	In the British one, it's still considered a mental disorder.
	Right, based.
	And what's really funny about that is, of course, we can't say the actual medical opinion of the British government and medical establishment here.
	Because it disagrees with YouTube.
	It's funny, with the Covid stuff, you're not allowed to say it unless you can find it in an official government proclamation.
	Unless it's from Florida, and then it doesn't count.
	But with this one, even government proclamations don't count.
	Silicon Valley morales sit above that.
	I mean, to be honest, I'm sort of weirded out by more mental illnesses haven't taken off.
	Claiming their sexualities.
	Yes.
	What other one would you do?
	Mental, uh, what is it?
	The multiple personality disorder one.
	That was my big one I was actually expecting to take off.
	Yeah, because you could squeeze that into orgies, couldn't you?
	Yeah, yeah, this is a threesome, me and my couple, because I'm two people.
	Yes.
	And, you know, she's right, so... I mean, these people are genuinely mental as well.
	Them trying to claim that they don't need curing, in fact, they're just spawned this way.
	Yes.
	I couldn't see why that wouldn't... As long as you can make it about somebody somewhere coming, then it's okay.
	Yeah.
	We can't infringe on that.
	I don't know, if you've got two personalities, is he jacking you off?
	The other personality in your head?
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	I can see that.
	I'm just saying, like, none of this rhetoric is any less valid than the crap you get out of, you know, this shooter's head.
	Yes.
	So... I don't know.
	I just... No, I agree.
	I agree.
	Mental illness, number one cause of murder.
	Someone online says murder is illegal here and schools are gun-free zones.
	I'm sure glad that all those laws stopped the crazy woman from doing anything.
	Well, yes, but obviously one more law and that will be it.
	What are we going to do this time?
	Well, I don't know.
	Yeah, we've made murder illegal, we've made having a gun illegal.
	Yes.
	What else do you need to... Well, it's always the next law is the one that will stop it.
	I'm trying to think of what other useless crap you could come up with.
	Paul van Voorbeek says, we really need to do studies on criminality in the trans community, but they'd probably be shut down by the state.
	Yeah, they would.
	Omar Awad says, the thing about good guy with a gun is that too many on the other side think that means government authorities, even after Uvalde.
	What do you think?
	Is Uvalde, is that that Texas one where the cops stood around outside for ages and didn't do anything?
	Oh, have you seen their latest excuse?
	No.
	So the investigation's been done.
	They did interviews with all the cops involved.
	Yes.
	Gathered all the footage together, blah blah blah.
	And the argument from the police as to why they didn't engage is because he had an AR-15.
	And you see, you've all got equivalents of AR-15s.
	Yeah.
	And he's in a confined space.
	Even if he had a bloody six-shooter revolver, I mean... Yeah, but they're claiming that because he had an AR-15, he could have killed them.
	Yes, but that's your job.
	No, well, their job is to contain the situation according to them, and if they might die, then there's no point doing anything.
	And the really disgusting thing about that is not only were the cops not dealing with the shooter, they were stopping the parents from going in themselves.
	So the parents were willing to risk themselves because that would have showed up the cops.
	What's really funny, they genuinely do go through, they've got their list of reasons as to why not dying is not part of their job, for some reason.
	And they say that, well, we had ballistic vests, but they were only rated for handgun rounds, not for rifle rounds.
	And it's like, Do you think that the cops of the 50s had ballistic vests?
	Yeah.
	Like, sorry, ballistic shields, not vests.
	I was like, no.
	Yes.
	Man with gun is killing people.
	You have to go kill man with gun.
	That is part of the job.
	That is why else be American police officer?
	Yeah, or at least, at minimum, get out of the way so the parents can go in themselves.
	Like, she may be overweight, but here's a gun.
	Go.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Ross Diggle says, oh I didn't finish off Omar Wads actually, what do you think the people screeching for gun control simultaneously want the cops to have all the guns and are also acapia?
	Riddles of the mentally ill.
	That should be a new series, I should do that.
	Well it's just this wicked stupid isn't it.
	Ross Deagle says I imagine the shooter hasn't been at the school for at least 17 years if she was 28 and the child victims were 9.
	Yet again mental health to hold a vendetta for that long of it because of some school slight.
	Yet leftists are defending her that equally as much.
	Well they never move on do they?
	Yeah I mean genuinely it's just like the shooter in the DMs are saying I'm mentally ill that's why I'm doing it and then they go and do the shooting.
	But we can't say it's mental illness because they're transgender.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Alexander Drake says, um, T-words aren't accepted by those Christians, so shooting is justified.
	I don't want to share a country with these psychopaths.
	If states leaving the union sparks another war, so be it.
	I'd have no problem taking up arms to defend against such people.
	Yeah, I mean, that is actually mad.
	People just being like, wow, you know.
	It's got to go back to the states, hasn't it?
	Because the left is just becoming too insane.
	They've got to split up.
	Britney John says the news will watch thousands of children get unalived in cities like Chicago every year and say absolutely nothing.
	Then they will call you racist for stating the fact, just evil people putting on the I Care About Children Act for their own politics.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	The media only cares when it's white kids.
	I mean, that's the reason the Conservatives can accurately bring up the data and be like, hang on a minute.
	Yeah.
	Here's all the mass shootings.
	Yes.
	You know what would solve this?
	No, no, that's racist.
	Why is it racist?
	It's, uh, endless.
	Joshua Crager says, didn't Alex Jones run into legal trouble for saying false things about the shooter and not being nice to the victim's families?
	Yeah.
	He got fined for that, didn't he?
	Like a billion dollars.
	Be American, have free speech, pay a billion dollars.
	He subsequently apologised for that as well, and said, oh no, I don't mean it, and he's retracted it.
	To be fair, I mean- A billion dollars.
	I like Alex, but his conduct in that court case was really funny.
	Like, he just turned up, he started making memes about the judge, and then having on his show.
	And then we go in the next day, and the judge would be like, so you put that on your show last night, it's me as the devil?
	Why'd you do that?
	It's just like, yeah, you don't do that in a court case.
	Yeah, but I mean, it is a banana republic.
	I mean, it is a show trial, so... Yeah, why not have fun?
	I get that argument, but... Oh boy, it was not a legally smart move to mock the judge.
	It was a funny move, though.
	Kevin Fox says, and when did it get around to mentioning that the shooter at no point did he mention prayers or thoughts of the families of those affected.
	The French cyclist says, the petrodollar is the reason why the US keeps attacking other countries, including their own allies.
	We cannot have world peace without either everyone kneeling to the United States or the petrodollar being destroyed.
	That's kind of true though.
	Fair enough.
	I mean, we literally can't have peace without some hegemon.
	I mean, the two things are inseparable, but I don't believe it.
	Yeah, arguable.
	Are you on the multipolar world?
	Well, we're going to get one anyway.
	Ah, it's cancer.
	I'm not looking forward to it, honestly.
	Yes.
	So it's either going to be a multipolar or the US is going to, you know, shoot itself in the face so hard that it becomes a unipolar world again, except on the China.
	Which would be even worse.
	Bing chilling!
	Yeah, that's not going to be good.
	Right.
	What do they have to say about cycling then?
	Brian Tomlinson says, COVID lockdowns have created cycling Cairns.
	Yeah, were they?
	Or were they always not?
	They've been around forever.
	Yeah.
	Guy who names himself Lee French Cyclist.
	What's his view on this?
	As a sports road cyclist myself, I think this Vine guy is an a-hole.
	That said, his near miss with the white van passing him is 100% the white van driver's fault.
	It could have been a scooter with a kid on it.
	Well, I mean, there was a cycling lane right there.
	I can see how you can make the argument, but then I see the cycling and I'm just like, man, you have a death wish.
	Yeah.
	In general, the rule for sports cycling is avoid cities where you probably have most of your cycling problems, and if you have to be extra careful, Don't use cycling lanes because they are full of debris that will blow your tyre and when you get into a dangerous area, plan in advance and signal behind you and get out to the middle of the road to prevent a car from trying to pass you.
	Okay, well that's one of you.
	Screwtape Lasers says, Urbling cycling was better when there was no bike lanes.
	I do love that about France though.
	It's just like, you go cycling, road covered in crap.
	I haven't been to France for a very long time.
	You had to be fit and use every single inch of pavement you could and generally moved much faster than cars.
	It was punk rock.
	These days there's a bunch of hall monitors looking for rule breakers.
	That's the other point.
	Cling Mikey, ideal guy to call on if you want to find out what colour Smurfs go when you choke it.
	Oh, and I'm a cyclist.
	I'm a cyclist in Asia.
	Jeremy Vine would be dead in the first 24 hours.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's the other point.
	Like if you look at Thailand or Vietnam cycling.
	Yeah, I mean, they're all on bikes or scooters, but you don't just go hammering intersections at full speed because you will die.
	Yes, very quickly, like Mr. Fox says.
	Miss Rat says, did the cycling crash because of the horn or because he turned around to flip the bird?
	I'm leaning towards the latter.
	Yeah, okay.
	Oh yeah, obviously.
	Anon Innie says, they're cycling on a road on a dual carriageway.
	What's the speed limit at most 60 miles an hour?
	How stupid do you have to be?
	Mr. Ward says, I bet these cyclists are 100% also mass Nazis.
	Oh, yeah, obviously.
	Otherwise, bureaucratic tightness.
	Vine definitely is.
	Yes.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	The number one rule for road users is never assume somebody else isn't going to be an idiot.
	Yeah, but these individuals act like they're immune to momentum, inattention or limited space just because the law favours them.
	Yep, they found a legally acceptable means of bullying people.
	Yeah, it's cyclists and increasingly Oxford people as well who are just going out and blocking the road.
	And we've got time for one more.
	Alexander Drake says, I can't stand cyclists.
	Stay on the sidewalk and off the road like the pedestrians you are.
	Wow.
	I don't really get it.
	It's really more, what kind of society do you want to build?
	I mean, the whole traffic debate's kind of annoying me because, like, the Netherlands have gone cycling, and therefore it's cycling society.
	The cities, right?
	You can see it in the layout and everything.
	And if it's not like that, then yeah, you're not served by that.
	So why are you mad?
	Like, you have to fundamentally change the way the city works.
	Yeah, you need to redesign the cities and the roads, or else do what we sort of did in that segment, where they just decide to turn the pavements into cycling lanes, and then you're cycling at people's kids at 15 miles an hour.
	Yeah, that doesn't help anyone.
	That just makes everyone worse off.
	Yeah.
	Do we have time for an honourable mention?
	Yeah, why not?
	Go for it.
	There aren't any.
	Good!
	Right!
	Alright, if you want one from us, come back tomorrow?
	One o'clock?
	About then?
	More of it.
	Sounds good.
	When will they find more of you?
	Well, they can find more of me by tuning in to Brokenomics, or just coming back next week.
	I'm normally in on Tuesdays.
	All right.

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