Hello and welcome to episode number 423 of the podcast of the Lotus Eaters on Monday, the 27th of June 2022.
I'm joined by Carl.
Hello!
And we are going to be talking about the repealing of Roe v.
Wade, the ridiculous reactions to it from leftists, and the ridiculous reactions to it from corporations.
I repeated myself there.
Anyway, stay tuned for that.
But before we go into that, I just want to remind you that this afternoon we have a live premium hangout, or premium hangout, which Harry will be doing on the question of whether Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant.
Controversial topic, and I'm sure you'll enjoy hearing his opinions on the subject.
And without further ado, let's get into the news.
So you may have heard that something happened in America.
Something small.
Apparently Roe v.
Wade was repealed.
And I think that it's worth going into why this happened.
Because this turns out to have been a magnificent cell phone for leftists.
They made this happen to themselves.
And so we'll go through it and talk about...
What the ruling means, and the arguments against the ruling, and some further consequences.
But before we start, if you'd like to support us, you can go to Logistics.com and check out our latest epochs on Alfred the Great, which is one Bo and I did, which I really enjoyed, because the life of Alfred the Great is a fascinating life, and he certainly would have been in favour of repeating Roe vs.
Wade, so that's why I decided to promote him.
Although I don't believe any primary sources on his opinions on abortion survive to this day.
No, but the earliest ones we have go back to the 13th century, which are cited in the ruling, incidentally.
No way.
I'm not even joking, no.
I'm not joking, no, no.
It's a long history of common law that they always fall back on because it's precedent-based.
And, yeah, it goes right the way back to the 13th century, where it is the quickening of the woman that is used.
And that means when she can first feel movement.
And then, from that point onwards, it's murder.
Wow.
So we actually have precedence on this.
But anyway, so this all begins in May of 2021, when a court in Mississippi was appealed.
Well, it's quite a long thing, but basically there is one abortion clinic in Mississippi, the Jackson Women's Health Organization.
And in Mississippi, the state justices there decided to enact a law in 2018 that prohibits most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
So actually around the sort of time of the 13th century quickening actually.
This is roughly when women first start feeling movement.
And this didn't go down well with the Jackson Women's Health Organization, who filed a lawsuit to challenge the law.
The federal court struck down the ban, finding it unconstitutional, of course, under the auspices of Roe v.
Wade.
And so this was sent to a court of appeals, and they kicked it up to the Supreme Court.
And so, because the Supreme Court can't be like, well, we're just going to choose this law that we're going to fiddle around with now.
It has to be based on what is actually going through the courts, and then it's pushed up to them.
Right, yep.
And so if the Jackson's Women's Health Organization had just been like, okay, well, we'll just deal with that, then none of this would have happened, or at least not now.
And so the Center for Reproductive Rights was representing Jackson's Women's Health Organization, argued that the court should reject Mississippi's argument as it is based on a misunderstanding of the core principle of their past decisions.
The CEO for the Center of Reproductive Rights, Nancy Northup, was like, oh, alarm bells should be ringing loudly about the threat of reproductive rights.
So yes, they should.
They were complaining that basically it's difficult for people to get abortion in Mississippi because lawmakers have been chipping away at the right to abortion for decades.
Yeah, because people in Mississippi keep voting for people who are against abortion.
Right, yeah.
Because it turns out that if you're a Christian, there's something, I don't know, there's this old dusty book that has something to do with morality, And not murdering babies in the womb?
It's weird.
The absolute knuckle-draggers in Mississippi still adhere to this archaic morality of the sanctity of life?
I just don't understand it.
It is curious that even back in the Bible, in the ancient Hebrew, the ancient Israelites, they were arguing about abortion rights.
They had to have a sacred ruling on it in Leviticus and so on.
Yes, indeed.
Very curious.
So these absolute primitives keep engaging in something called democracy and voting for further primitives who keep voting for this primitive archaic morality.
And so that's why Mississippi has been trying to limit the extent to which abortion can go.
And so this is how this all got kicked up to the Supreme Court and why they ended up making the decision they made.
We'll cover in a second, in fact.
But so it's interesting because a lot of people in America, the forward-thinking progressives, not the disgusting throwbacks, have been saying, well, look, we just want to be like Europe.
We just want social health care.
We just want weird European rules.
And the thing they don't want The abortion legislation of Europe, which is actually really similar, if not more restrictive, than what was being proposed in Mississippi.
As you can see, France and Germany, after 12 weeks now, I mean, Poland?
Do you want the Polish view on this?
You don't even want the Ukrainian view on this.
Although I must say, it really annoys me that they've done that thing of conflating Europe with the EU again, because they've greyed out Finland and Britain.
They have.
Switzerland is still in there, though, curiously.
Yes, it's strange.
But the point is, Europe is actually very conservative from an American perspective when it comes to the question of abortion.
So be careful what you wish for.
You just might get it.
Anyway, let's go on to talk about the ruling.
Because the ruling, I think, is actually really interesting.
Because on one side, you've got disgusting, throwback conservative fascists who are arguing about constitutional rights.
Yeah, people who literally want to recreate the dystopia from The Handmaid's Tale.
Yes, and then on the other side you have the glorious progressives who are arguing from their feelings.
And we know which one of these is important, right?
So you've got a very, very interesting statement from Judge Alito who gives the court's opinion, as in the majority opinion of the court.
And he says, look, the provision that has been held to guarantee some rights that is not mentioned in the Constitution, because the Constitution accepts there are implicit rights that are contained within it that are not expressly laid out.
And so he says, no, this is true, but abortion is not one of them.
And so is such a right deeply rooted in the nation's history and tradition and implicit in the concept of ordered liberty?
And they conclude that no, abortion is not.
Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law.
Indeed, when the 14th Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the United States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy.
So no, this is just not something that's been there.
The abortion right is also critically different from any other right that the court has held to fall within the 14th Amendment's protection of liberty.
This is where the right to privacy comes from.
So a woman's, obviously, private right to murder a baby.
Roe's defenders characterise this abortion right as similar to the recognised rights in past decisions involving matters such as intimate sexual relations, contraception and marriage.
But abortion is fundamentally different, as both Roe and Casey acknowledged, because it destroys what those decisions call fetal life and what the law now before us describes as an unborn human being.
Yes, so there is someone else's life is involved in your liberty.
And of course, if you know anything about the straight white men who framed the Constitution, it was to protect your rights insofar as they didn't trample on other people's rights.
Again, just absolutely throwbacks.
And so they conclude that Roe was egregiously wrong from the start.
Its reasoning was exceptionally weak.
The decision had damaging consequences.
Far from bringing about a national settlement on the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have inflamed the debate and deepened the division.
They go through loads of precedence, as we were talking about, going all the way back to 13th century English common law when the movement was first felt around 16 to 18 weeks.
And it's just very, very factually correct as far as my reading of it takes.
I'm not a lawyer, so take that for what it's worth.
But also, one thing I couldn't help but notice is that they're appealing to the law.
Now, that seems remarkable for a judgment to appeal to the law as written in the Constitution of the United States, if that is at all relevant or interesting or important in any way, shape, or form to an American.
Now, I'm not an American.
Maybe it's not, because I read the dissenting opinions of the three liberal justices Who don't seem to care about that at all.
Who don't even appeal to it, right?
So if we go to the next one, we'll pull out their furious dissent.
They say it's catastrophic to women's freedoms and women's rights.
It's like, okay, but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about whether this is within the remit of the Constitution.
So they say the majority has overruled Roe versus Casey for one and one only reason, because it has always despised them, and now it has the votes to discard them.
Maybe, but they're actually talking about the law.
The court overruled the constitutional right to an abortion, which was imposed 50 years ago, and they say the majority thereby substitutes a rule by judges for the rule of law.
Wow.
So they're actually making, first of all, a personal attack on their colleagues in the Supreme Court.
And then they're going to the old canard of the judges have too much power.
The judges are saying the judges have too much power in America because this time they're on the wrong side.
I don't think they say that when they are making legislation.
Precisely.
Doesn't that also apply to when Roe v.
Wade was...
It does.
And the fact that they're striking down this ruling made by the previous Supreme Court, actually it's reducing the influence of the court on how things are run by substituting their ruling for the state's opinions.
Yes, it's the total opposite of reality that is actually happening here.
So, in fact, what they're doing is reducing rule by judges for the democratic rule of law.
So now the states themselves can have their own opinion on this most contentious of moral issues.
And not the state judges, the state elected officials.
Yes, and the legislators themselves.
Therefore, the representatives of the people.
Therefore, this is the most democratic motion that they could have had out of this circumstance.
They say, in the end, the majority says it must be, it must say to override, stare, decry- I can't pronounce this.
But anyway, it says Roe vs Casey is egregiously wrong.
That rule could equally spend the end of any precedent with which a bare majority of the present court disagrees.
It makes radical change too easy and too fast, based on nothing more than the new views of new judges.
Right.
So the progressives are saying we shouldn't have radical change and we shouldn't have it quickly.
Return to tradition.
Say the progressive judges.
Everything you're doing here is totally backwards and outside of your own philosophy.
That's a very strange...
You're going, this radical change is too quick.
Now define woman for me.
Well, what they're really saying is that the arrow of history only points one way, which is in the direction of progress, which is their opinions, and anything which moves in a radical direction other than their opinions is backwards.
Yes.
But isn't it interesting how they're just, oh no, radical change is too easy and too fast.
You love radical change.
Shut up.
You know, honestly.
And again, you're not appealing to the Constitution, not appealing to law.
What you're appealing to is like extraneous moral value judgments.
It's like, okay, well, let's see there are more conservatives on the Supreme Court.
It almost reads like a don't firebomb my house statement, doesn't it?
Yes, it does, actually.
We very much agree with the mob whether Is what they're saying here.
How dare you?
But anyway, yeah, so again, when it comes to rights, the court does not act neutrally when it leaves everything up to the states, the liberals wrote.
When the court decimates a right women have held for 50 years, the court is not being scrupulously neutral.
It is instead taking sides against women who wish to exercise the right of the states like Mississippi that want to bar them from doing so.
Again, you're not speaking about what's in the Constitution, which is your job as the Supreme Court of the United States.
You are speaking, again, extraneous political considerations.
That's nothing to do with the subject.
You're not even rebuking or refuting the majority justices when they're saying, well, these are the legal reasons why it should be a state's rights issue.
You have no argument here, and it's crystal clear, and so you are moralizing irrelevantly And Cavalier even points this out.
He's like, look, you're just appropriating the rhetoric of even-handedness.
Yeah, equality of outcome.
And so they conclude with, in overruling Rowan Casey, this court betrays guiding principles with sorrow for this court, but for more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection, we dissent.
Oh, it's heroic.
I just want to point out that the dissenting judges are acting well and truly in the tradition of J.K. Calbraith, who introduced the whole theory of American judicial activism, namely, they're giving rulings based not on the letter of the statute in front of them, but on the fuzzy moral progressive ideas in their heads, because that's what an enlightened progressive judge is supposed to do.
Acting as political agents.
Yes, unlike these goddamn throwbacks, who are just acting in the interests of protecting constitutional rights.
It's just so retrograde.
Anyway, I thought it might be worth talking about Norma McCorvey.
Otherwise known as Jane Roe.
That's correct!
Who really doesn't like, or didn't like, she's dead now I'm afraid, but didn't like the way that all this had gone.
Because a lot of people don't really realise that this was a lie.
This whole thing was based on a lie.
McCorvey had, in 1973, gotten herself pregnant.
She claimed she was raped and this ended up resolving in the majority justice saying she's got a constitutional right to an abortion, which turned out she didn't.
But then in 2005 she had come out and said, in fact in 2003 she'd even come out earlier, it was in 1995, that she became an anti-abortion activist because she realized actually this is terrible and wrong.
In 2005 she said, abortion is a shameful and secret thing.
I wanted to justify my desire for an abortion in my own mind, as almost every woman who participates in the killing of her own child must also do.
I made up the story that I had been raped to help justify my abortion.
Yeah.
Quite incredible, isn't it?
Yes.
So this warping of the Constitution of the United States was warped on a lie that the person who had told the lie recanted.
And in 2003, if you can go to the next one, in 1995 she joined the anti-abortion lobby and was an activist for it, against it.
And she says she regrets her role in Roe v.
Wade and said the Supreme Court's decision is no longer valid because of scientific and anecdotal evidence that have come to light in the last 30 years.
It's shown the negative effects of abortion.
We're getting our babies back, she said at a news conference, while flanked by about 60 women, some who sobbed and held signs that read, I regret my abortion.
Now, just to mention here, there is a story that she recounted this on her deathbed, and it was included in a documentary.
However, when you look a bit further into Jane Roe, Norma McCorby's life story, she doesn't really seem like a particularly reliable person, so it's entirely like she was arrested for petty larceny for robbing a cash till when she was like 10 years old or something like that, I believe.
Yeah.
And so she's had a fairly interesting life, shall we say, and it's entirely possible that she could have been bought off by the anti-abortion lobby to say all these things.
Fundamentally, she's quite unreliable, and I think it goes to point out that these sort of egregious extreme cases make bad law in the end.
They do.
Whether she does actually recant or not is actually up in the air, because there are quotes from that very same documentary that imply the opposite.
So, I don't know.
But the point is, she did spend a lot of time campaigning against abortion.
And the allegation from this documentary, which is of course made by progressives, was that on her deathbed she said, I don't care about the issue.
Oh, that's it.
Yes.
It's like, right, okay.
I doubt it.
On your deathbed, you probably don't, to be honest.
And as she said, I didn't even get an abortion anyway.
So if she didn't get an abortion, maybe, who knows.
But anyway, so the consequence of repealing Rovus Wade is that certain conservative states...
are going to make abortion illegal because that's how they view it on a moral level and they have the right under the Constitution to enact laws as such.
There have been three states that had abortion bans that went into effect immediately.
Kentucky, Louisiana and South Dakota.
There are three states who have abortion bans in place 30 days after, which is Idaho, Texas and Tennessee.
And then there are states that need an official to enact the ban on the law which They're probably going to.
Arkansas, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah, and Wyoming.
Doubtless going to.
Now, there are some fine details in these.
Utah, for example, will have an exemption for lethal fetal abnormality and rape and incest in certain other ones and things like this.
But it's basically, in summary, the baby holocaust is over in these conservative states.
Literally, if you go to the next one, you can see the Planned Parenthood are like, well, I guess we've got to stop.
So, yeah, you've got to stop.
How terrible for you.
But the thing is, and this is the thing that really was interesting.
Alito tried to, in his statement, say, well, look, this doesn't change any of the other progressive judgments that have been made.
It's just for the abortion issue.
And Clarence Thomas was like, well, actually, It turns out that Clarence Thomas seems to have left the door open.
In fact, not just left the door open, he explicitly calls for other rulings to be revised, because again, these are things that are not mentioned in the Constitution.
And so by the same principle, well, it could be that conservative states might want to talk about same-sex marriage, contraception, and various other major rulings.
So basically, 50 years later, we're finally getting the reaction to J.K. Galbraith's nonsense, judicial activism.
Yes.
The progressive era of the 20th century may well be coming tumbling down, at least in about half of America.
Very interesting.
And so, yeah, I think I've found myself very much warming to Clarence Thomas.
The way they've been treating him afterwards just makes me like him more.
And the fact that he doesn't seem to care about their opinions at all is also wonderful.
So that's how Roe versus Wade came to be undone.
Let's carry on.
How do they react?
Yeah, so leftists are going berserk over what's happening here.
And one way they're trying to convince you that we should actually have free abortions everywhere is they are twerking.
Let's play the clip.
So, yes, these ladies do look very disturbed, but not necessarily disturbed by the ruling.
I'm in favour of oppressing these people.
Others have screamed that the court is illegitimate if we play the next clip.
See, See, there's something about all of these protests that is kind of inauthentic to me.
They're trying to suppress a laugh or a smile while they're doing it.
There's a kind of weird cheer that, oh yes, finally we get to re-oppress, so we get to have something to rail against.
Yeah, it's our turn to be freedom fighters.
It's like, yeah, I think you kind of want this, actually.
There's a sort of, you know, the secret part of you that likes the fact that there is a patriarchy that's got its thumb on you.
It is very strange, that sort of thing.
But there's nothing I'm seeing there which is really convincing me that I should...
Well, there's no good arguments.
No, it's just turning up, marping as a protester, shrieking, twerking.
Yeah.
Okay, like whatever you do in your own time.
But others, we have this post on Reddit, which is quite amusing.
From now on, I'm going to teach these men by rejecting any casual relationships.
Good.
Judging by the look of some of the protesters we've seen, they've dodged a bullet there, but there we go.
And we also have to point out that there has been one character, the 10th US Supreme Court Justice, who has been absolutely slaying the salt mine online.
It's absolutely a work of art.
As we see, the Honourable Justice Dankula, Supreme Court of the Uterus Squad, SCOTUS. Bullshit BS ender.
Baby Defender, Trump 2024.
So this judge's political credentials are very clear, I think.
Just a quick thing, right?
I watched all of this happen while it was going on this weekend.
And just the number of people who fell for this is remarkable.
Now, I put this down to a perfect storm of factors.
One, the highly emotive nature of Twitter over the last couple of days.
Two, the profile picture combined with the verified checkmate.
Yes.
That's what I think.
I'll let you carry on.
That smug smile as well.
Yes.
This is a BTF oliptard smile.
I love it.
It's beautiful.
I've taken a load of things he's been saying because he has been triggering so many people you would not believe it.
Let's go through it.
Let's go to the first one.
Good morning, Cotter's in session, sluts.
So the moment you start seeing this, you think, oh, this guy's not a serious actor, right?
With my latest ruling, I am pleased to announce that Backstreet is in fact back.
Unfortunately, not the band.
Forgive my Scottish accent.
But yeah, again, this is not a serious account.
Come on, guys.
Like, obvious parody.
No.
Any unqualified DS can become a judge these days, huh?
Yeah.
It's not real, guys.
Next one.
Um, this one.
I made it!
I triggered the biggest snowflake on earth!
It's a miracle how these clowns are in charge of the country!
They can't even handle a little tweet!
Who wants to tell them?
Like, people genuinely falling for this.
Yes.
It's just...
Again, they just...
They don't know who is on the Supreme Court.
Yeah.
They don't know.
You don't gotta worry about any females getting pregnant around you, boss.
That's a face only a mother could love.
Yeah, yours.
Just brilliant.
I think this is a new form of comedy.
Okay, it's not that new, but he's a master of it, whatever it is.
Go to the next one.
This one, again, a load of...
You should effing kill yourself.
You know, obviously don't.
Or someone will do it for you.
That's a promise.
There's things worse than death.
Which state do you live in?
I'll just look myself.
And then he just goes silent as he realises.
Who's Justice Dankula?
Where does he live?
It's like, hey, they all live in D.C., right?
For a start.
But, like, Justice Dankula?
Oh, God.
Lives in Scotland.
Not a state of the United States.
But I love that you were basically sending death threats to a Supreme Court judge.
You thought it was a Supreme Court judge.
It's mad.
Go to the next one.
Again, he just points out, if you did this for two years, you can do this for 48 seconds, which is obviously a comment on the sexual stamina of the mask wearers, but also just a very good point.
If this is such a big deal, use contraception.
Then again, and another one.
Go to the next one.
Just this one.
Again, if someone piles in with a rant, have fun complaining about riots that you caused, since that's literally all you conservatives do, two minutes later.
Oh, I just got baited.
Oh, this is good.
Have fun complaining about the riots that you caused.
It's like, sorry, sorry, are you not agents?
You know, you don't have any kind of agency over your own behavior.
And so if the conservatives do something, you're like, right, we're just going to have to light the Molotovs and...
Yeah, it's like leftists or Islamists or whoever it is, they just have no agency.
If you annoy them, they're just going to burn down a city.
They have no choice.
They're not moral agents, as you said.
It's like kicking a hornet's nest.
They can't help but turn up and ruin your day.
Yeah.
Sorry, on that last one as well.
Going on about the Bible, it's like nothing in the ruling was about the Bible.
It was about the Constitution.
Yeah.
yeah it's mad and it's like you can't talk about that because of separation in church and state and blah blah blah it's just there's nothing to do with anything guys are wally basically we go to the next one um what oh they all delete the tweets now um why would we the greatest country in the world care what cringe non-americans think he says it's a scottish man brilliant um next one uh Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The fact that this man is on the Supreme Court of the United States and tweeting things like this, unprofessional, karmical.
This man is the reason women will die.
And Dank just pointing out that these people's votes count just as much as...
I love what he has responded to.
I hereby declare the Itty Bitty Titty Committee is a terrorist organisation.
I mean, if you're not aware that you're getting...
Trolled.
Absolutely trolled at this point, then...
Mad.
I mean...
If we go to the next one...
Yeah, so if we look here, a load of people in America have suddenly been frantically Googling the term Justice Angular.
Just to determine whether he's real or not.
I'm just...
Oh, it's gold.
Yeah, I love it.
Like an S-poster in Scotland on the internet knows more about the Supreme Court of the United States than apparently a lot of Americans.
That's cold.
Mad.
And on that note, so just want to plug, so Dankula is associated with us for a while.
He's a mate, and he's also doing a live show where he has a feature called Hashtag Roast Dank.
And yeah, you can roast Dankula online, and the best ones will be included in the show.
So go on.
If you are mad about Roe v.
Wade, don't hold back.
It's time to open up the court of Dankula.
And on that note, let's segue smoothly into the Satanic Temple.
Because it turns out that, in their own words, the Satanic Temple is the leading beacon of light in the battle for abortion access.
I believe it!
With Roe v Wade overturned, a religious exemption will be the only available challenge to many restrictions to access.
So they're basically trying to recruit through this issue.
But, I mean, imagine that.
It's like, no, I'm a Satanist, therefore my religion requires me to be able to have abortions.
Mad, isn't it?
And just in case you think these are a parody, if we go to the next one, here we go.
No, no, they are real, yeah.
Yeah, only federally recognised international non-theistic religious satanic organisation.
Non-theistic?
Don't pretend you know this is a big joke.
Yeah, exactly.
And then if we go to the next one, indeed, here we have Americans chanting, America was never great, hail Satan.
Really not helping your case, guys.
Really not.
The optics, no, no, the optics are bad.
Don't do this.
I mean, it looks like they're just saying their abortion is a sacrifice to Moloch.
And speaking of bad optics, they've been saying some spicy things about Clarence Thomas.
There's a general meme going around that nobody is as racist as a left-wing white woman, and Clarence Thomas found that out.
That's pretty spicy, I'm just saying.
If we go to the next one...
Oof.
Uncle Tom.
Yep.
Crikey.
I love the idea that black people must be in favour of whatever the latest progressive debauchery is.
You've got to be politically black.
Yeah, of course blacks are in favour of us debauching children.
Whatever it is, of course there are.
So why would you think that?
Yeah.
What a low opinion of black people you have.
Black people do have brains and agency, you know.
And morals, isn't it?
There's nothing in the genetic code which requires them to vote Democrat.
They're often Christians.
Right, exactly.
And it's not just black people that the left has been enjoying throwing abuse, and it's also women.
LAUGHTER Well done, Ethan Klein.
Here comes Ethan Klein with one of the craziest takes of the day.
This crazy-eyed b-word lied to Congress about her intentions to overturn Roe v.
Wade.
She is a Christian fascist who hates her own gender.
I'm sure if she were, our word, by a family member, she'd be first in line for an abortion, though.
Ethan Klein desperately imagining the rape of a Supreme Court justice because she's a woman.
Do you think Ethan needs to spend some time offline?
Oh, yes.
But, I mean, I would have said that yesterday, and I'll say that again tomorrow.
This is what the internet does to you.
Like, guys, internet in small doses, please.
Ethan, I don't think she actually would be first in line for an abortion.
I know you find that hard to believe, but some women actually think it's wrong.
Yeah, there's a thing called right and wrong, you see, which people used to have back in the day, and one of them is stuff that's good and the other stuff that's bad, and you try and do the good things and not do the bad things.
It's almost like talking to a child.
And two wrongs actually don't make a right.
So, okay, the rape bad, abortion also bad, and I think she'd probably say that.
Anyway.
Yeah.
So let's go to a voice of sanity, or senility, at least.
It's close enough.
Biden had a lot to say about Roe v.
Wade.
Let's hear the President of the United States at work.
It's not hyperbole to suggest a very solemn moment.
Today, the Supreme Court of the United States expressly took away a constitutional right from the American people that it had already recognized.
They didn't limit it.
They simply took it away.
That's never been done to a right so important to so many Americans.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Well, this is the thing.
By saying a fundamental right has been struck down, he's sort of saying that the original interpretation of Roe v.
Wade is wrong because he's saying that the right to an abortion is a separate right from the right to privacy or right to liberty.
But that's a bit of a nitpick.
He's sort of acknowledging that that was created in 1973 out of thin air by activist judges.
No, I think that's not just the nitpick, though.
I think that's really important because, as you say, if the right to privacy hasn't been struck down, which it hasn't been, but the right to abortion has been, then that is, yeah, exactly, a separate and fundamental right that's just not found in the Constitution.
Exactly.
And also, Biden, aren't you meant to be a Catholic?
Yeah, that's a very good point, actually.
Well, let's see what this Catholic goes on to say.
Yeah, okay.
Let's go to the next one.
It reaffirmed basic principles of equality, that women have the power to control their own destiny, and it reinforced a fundamental right of privacy, The right of each of us to choose how to live our lives.
Now, with Ro gone, let's be very clear.
The health and life of women in this nation are now at risk.
So, two things there, right?
First of all, he says two things in a very classic rhetorical trick.
He phrases them in such a way to make you believe that they're the same.
But the fundamental right of privacy and the right to do what you want are actually two completely different things.
One of them is privacy, the other is agency.
Yeah, liberty.
Exactly.
So, you know, don't be fooled there.
And then the other thing is, by him coming out and saying, look, now, immediately, the health of millions of women in the nation is at risk, right?
Could that be considered hyperbolic?
Could it even be considered, perhaps, incitement?
So women were just dying en masse before abortion, is what he's saying.
Pretty much.
Very curious.
And if we go to the next one.
State laws banning abortion are automatically taking effect today.
Jeopardizing the health of millions of women, some without exceptions.
So extreme that women could be punished for protecting their health.
So extreme that women and girls were forced to bear their rapist's child.
Yeah, he's clearly very worked up about this religious Catholic.
But it's just the sheer hyperbola is extreme.
And I'll tell you why it's extreme.
Actually, no, I won't tell you.
I'll let Joe Biden tell you why he's being hyperbolic.
Let's go to the next one.
If a woman lives in a state that restricts abortion, the Supreme Court's decision does not prevent her from traveling from her home state to the state that allows it.
Oh, so I guess this actually isn't a big deal then.
It's not the end of the world, is it?
I mean, getting in a car and traveling to the next state, crossing state lines, is probably preferable to having your life be in jeopardy and danger and dying and so on and so forth.
And he seems to be missing the point that if a woman lives in a state that outlawed abortion, she probably agrees with outlawing abortion.
Exactly.
Yeah, that's a good point.
So it's not that currently a big deal in practice.
And what we're going to see is we're going to see a load of more Christian states banning it and a load of less Christian states possibly even making it easier to get an abortion, making the rules looser about getting abortions.
And you're going to see people travelling from one state to the other, just as we had for many years in this country, many, many women coming over from the Republic of Ireland, in which abortion was banned by the Constitution, to Liverpool to get an abortion there.
And that's just a short hop across the ocean, even though it's a foreign country.
So that's basically what's going to happen.
So I suddenly realized, though, that there is one slight problem to the traveling interstate, which is that with fuel prices skyrocketing due to the president's moronic energy policy, Biden's economic illiteracy could become the greatest threat to a woman's right to choose.
So that's a great point.
But enough of Sleepy Joe.
I've had enough of him, I'm sure you have.
Let's see what Pelosi's about, because she's taken a break from managing her stonks to read a poem by an Israeli poet, Ehud Manor, after dropping that she's been to Israel many times and presumably trying to win the votes of a certain group and demographic within her constituency, very savvy politicking.
And it has the key phrase, my country has changed its face, which she says with a very tragic mood.
Yeah, I don't know what she's trying to say there, really.
No, I'm lost.
It's just a nice poem, isn't it?
Yeah, she's just coming out and saying, don't like it.
Yeah.
Baution bad.
Well, you're going to get one recently, are you, Nancy?
Yeah.
Elizabeth Warren, though, has been a little more vocal and vociferous, as you can see.
Let's play from the clip.
Bro is dead.
Six extremists on the United States Supreme Court...
Have decided that they can force all of America to bend to their personal religious and moral views.
What?
Roe is dead, but the Supreme Court extremists do not get the last word.
We are here because we will make Roe alive again.
So Roe's been aborted.
We're going to unabort Roe.
Well, first of all, I just want to say that actually Jane Roe died on February the 18th, 2017, and ensuring personally that she'll become alive again is a bit creepy in that circumstance when she considers she was a real person, Liz.
But on a more serious point, isn't it amazing how leftists have this talent for promulgating the exact opposite of reality?
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Literally, the Roe v.
Wade decision was the thing that you described.
Yes.
They struck down legislation just now that bent the entire country to Elizabeth Warren's personal moral and religious views because it said, don't care who you vote for in states, you have to obey federal law on this issue, which is very important to very many people, and you have to do it because of a virtually nonsense interpretation of Of the American Constitution, which is so ludicrous that it was struck down in the 21st century in the middle of the Progressive Era.
Anyway, so yeah, she's doing that classic thing where she's portraying a retraction of federal authority, which is rare and based and should be commended, as if it's an expansion of tyranny.
That's amazing.
It's amazing how she looks at the And that's without going on to how she's calling the Supreme Court judges extremists and, again, incitement to violence, perhaps?
Well, we shall have to see how the cookie crumbles.
Ah, your boos mean nothing.
I've seen what makes you cheer.
Another fellow weighing into the debate is good old Barraco B., Saying that today, the Supreme Court not only reversed nearly 50 years of precedent, it relegated the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues, attacking the essential freedoms of millions of Americans.
So this, again, directly contradicts the opinion of the dissenting justices who said, this decision is ruled by judges.
He's now saying that we're empowering politicians.
So which is it, then?
Are we empowering judges?
Are we empowering politicians?
Don't we vote for the politicians?
Aren't they actually accountable to the people?
Exactly.
And it's also pointing out that this is assuming the federal government isn't subject to the whims of politicians and ideologues, really?
Exactly.
Says the former president.
Exactly.
Now, we may have ended the baby holocaust, as you said.
But there's one person who's crusading to bring it back, which is, of course, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
She has raised so far $150,000 in direct contributions to grassroots abortion funds in just five hours.
She's going to end the birth rate in blue states at this rate.
First of all, there must be some pretty sturdy grassroots you've got there if you're trying to carry out an abortion with them.
It amazes me, this.
Raising 150k to kill babies in any other context would make you an evil supervillain, but in this context it makes her stunning and brave, apparently.
Ronald Reagan actually had a good point about this.
He was like, look, if you were to kick a pregnant woman in the stomach...
And the baby dies, then you're charged with murder.
So we do accept that the unborn baby, in some circumstances, legally, is a life.
So you're having it both ways, basically.
Well, that's what they always want.
They always want to have their gay candidate.
In many ways, they're very often self-contradictory, very often just entirely at odds with reality.
And another person who's been very upset by this is, of course, Green Day's Billy Joe Armstrong, who's going to renounce his US citizenship over this ruling.
Didn't he say this in England?
At least he says he will.
I don't know.
He may have done.
I think he was in England when he said this.
And so it's like, I'm going to stay here or something?
It's like, but we've got basically the same law as Mississippi wanted.
Yeah.
Weird.
But it's amazing how people just get borne along on the winds of popular discourse and popular hysteria in this way.
Of course, it's not just Americans weighing in.
Oh no, no, you've got to be treated to idiot foreigners opining about the laws in your country.
And let's start with Mr Johnson.
Clearly it has massive impacts on people's thinking around the world.
It's a very important decision.
I've got to tell you, I think it's a big step backwards.
I think it's a big step backwards.
I've always believed in a woman's right to choose, and I stick to that view, and that's why the UK has the laws that it does.
And actually, if you look, we recently took steps to make sure that those laws were enforced throughout the whole of the UK. He's a conservative prime minister.
Standing very much for the progressive point of view.
Although the fact that he was giving that conference in Rwanda I find interesting.
I do wonder how it was received by the audience.
He's not the only one because people in Rwanda are like, what?
Yeah, I mean, they've probably fallen asleep by that point, because Boris is not the most engaging speaker these days.
He's lost all the energy and charisma that used to make him vaguely entertaining.
There you go.
That's what working with the civil service does to you.
Sadiq Khan, though, still seems to have some kind of energy.
I don't know where he gets it from.
Oh, thank God the mayor of London is weighing in on American politics.
Yeah, I'm sure that's...
You guys in America, you just had to hear what Sadiq Khan thought about this issue, didn't you?
I'm sure Londoners are thrilled that he's busy trying to meddle in the affairs of another country.
Yeah, well, he's standing up for the opinions of Londoners, who he views himself as the spokesperson of, saying that they stand with the women of America, you know, the pro-abortion women of America, not the anti-abortion women, whose most basic rights and freedoms are threatened by this ruling.
A dark day for a great country.
Most basic rights involve murdering babies.
I mean, I'm very curious to hear what the view of London's Islamic community is on abortion.
That would be a very interesting thing to know.
I'd like to know whether Sadiq Khan is actually in touch with his base in London.
I mean, I don't know London that well.
I've lived there for a few years, but I can't imagine he's too close to their opinions.
We also have Justin Trudeau coming into the party.
News coming out of the United States is horrific.
My heart goes out to the millions of American women who are now set to lose their legal right to an abortion.
I can't imagine the fear and anger you are feeling right now.
No government politician or man should tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.
I want women in Canada to know that we will always stand up for your right to choose.
I noticed that all of the replies to this were, what about the vaccine mandates, Justin?
Yeah, yeah.
Again, bodily autonomy when it suits you, and no bodily autonomy when it doesn't.
I'm sorry, you kind of have to be consistent on this.
Women have a right to choose, women have a right to an abortion, but they cannot choose whether they're vaccinated or not, otherwise are at risk of losing their job, their right to travel, etc., etc.
They can't look after their dying and bereaved family members on the other side of the country.
Yeah, absolutely.
Trudeau, we know you're a paid actor at this point.
Like, stop pretending.
It's actually remarkable, though, this commitment to hypocrisy.
Well, I wouldn't have the gall to stand up.
If I'd been like, look, no, you have to get the vaccine because people's lives are in danger.
And so, yeah, women have to be able to abort because people's lives are in danger?
Like, every abortion ends in a death.
Justin.
And it's also worth pointing out as well that it's not like abortion has been criminalised.
We've just talked about how you can just go to another state to get the procedure done if you really need it.
And honestly, a decision like this should be pretty near the top of your priority lists.
It's not like, oh no, I've got to get the groceries, I've got to pay the gas bill, maybe I'll have fine time for my abortion at the end of next month.
No, this is the sort of thing that's at the top of your priority list.
It's being hyped up out of all proportion.
And speaking of hyping out of all proportion, we have Stephen King.
Welcome to The Handmaid's Tale, a book he has clearly never read.
Yeah, have you read The Handmaid's Tale?
Yes, I had to read it for English literature.
One thing I noticed about The Handmaid's Tale is that it wasn't about abortion.
No.
At all?
No.
It's about the establishment of a tyrannical Christian theocracy that it felt like the author kind of wanted to be oppressed by.
Speaking of the author, she has said nothing on this issue just yet.
No, she had a few tweets earlier, before the ruling.
She had wrote an article in The Atlantic, which was largely incoherent.
But she hasn't actually said anything since this ruling came in on social media.
So that's interesting.
We'll wait to hear her view on things.
And finally, just in case you didn't care about women, Be worried, because the gays are next.
According to Bette Midler, sounds like a threat.
It does.
Get ready, you gays, you're next.
Next for what?
And on that sinister note, let's move to the next segment.
Anyway, so all we're saying is calm down, liberals.
No one's coming for your abortions.
We just want common sense abortion control, a one-year wasting period.
You know the meme.
Because you really had this coming, right?
You genuinely had this coming.
I've got no sympathy whatsoever.
And I'm glad that you're losing this ability on demand, especially just given how gross the left has been on the concept of abortion.
This idea that it's like, oh, well, you know, it's a woman's right to choose.
What, up until the point of birth?
Yeah, past birth.
What are you talking about?
It's like, right, you're actually disgusting and you are totally untrustworthy people.
But anyway, before we go on, if you'd like to support us, you can go to lowseas.com and check out Harry's latest article on how libertarians should not trust big business.
And this is relevant because of what big businesses' response to the repealing of Roe vs.
Wade has been.
Rather revealing and shows that they view you as essentially some form of cattle.
It's kind of gross.
And so Harry is making the libertarian argument against the international corporation, which I think is very interesting.
Anyway, so let's move on.
Let's talk about abortions.
Specifically, the statistics that we have available.
And there are some really fascinating statistics on this.
So according to the Guttmacher Institute, 930,000 estimated abortions took place in the United States in 2020.
And so this is a really large number.
A really, really large number.
Nearly a million abortions a year.
And that's been going on for over 50 years.
So that's interesting.
In 2019, approximately 19% of US pregnancies ended in abortion.
One in five babies conceived in the United States were aborted.
Wow.
That's staggering, isn't it?
It's stunning.
And it's worse than the UK. It is.
And it's not evenly distributed either.
For example, in 2018, 31% of all pregnancies in New York City ended in abortion.
Right.
One in three.
One in three babies in New York were aborted.
Goodness.
That's mad, isn't it?
Unsurprisingly, unmarried women accounted for 86% of all abortions.
I wonder why we have an aging population and a declining birth rate.
God, it's just a mystery, isn't it?
And real problems forming relationships.
Among married women, only 4% of pregnancies in 2019 ended in abortion.
Among unmarried women, it was 28%.
So almost one in three unmarried women getting those abortions.
Women in their 20s accounted for the majority of abortions in 2019 and had the highest abortion rates.
So that means that it's 20-something single liberal women getting all the abortions because they're being irresponsible whores.
Aren't they, according to the statistics?
Because, I mean, they'll always say, well, what about a teenage girl, a young teenage girl?
Well, it turns out that adolescents under 15 years old are 0.2% of all abortions.
This is the thing, right?
If this were being imposed on them externally, then this would be described as a eugenics thing.
Yes.
It's all about the placement of agency.
But when you place the agency on the people themselves, it's just, ah, it's just the social movement.
It's just the thing.
Yes, it's a total lack of responsibility for liberal women, white liberal women.
But anyway, so it's mostly not.
It's a very, very tiny number of young girls getting abortions.
So that's not the main problem.
And among white women, and this is another thing I found interesting, 10% of the pregnancies ended in abortion, whereas among black women it was 28%.
Again, if this were externally imposed, you would describe this as a eugenics program?
Margaret Sanger did describe it as a eugenics program.
Gosh.
The founder of Planned Parenthood, who specifically wanted to try and reduce the population of black people in the United States.
Well, she must be cheering from hell at the moment.
Anyway, so we've got a few states actually give the complete data as to why the abortions happen, but Florida actually does.
So they say the state of Florida records a reason for every abortion that occurs within its borders.
And so in 2020, there were nearly 75,000 abortions in Florida.
And this is the table.
0.01% of them were from an incestuous relationship.
Because again, you always say, oh, what about for cases of rape and incest?
Well, they're really marginal.
0.15% was because the woman was raped.
So we're not even 0.16% of the abortions so far, right?
And 0.2% is that a woman's life is endangered by the pregnancy.
So less than 1% of abortions, less than half of a percent, a quarter of a percent of abortions, are because a woman's life is in danger.
That's really interesting.
0.98% is though some serious fetal abnormality.
So again, we're still down to about 1.5% of abortions that have some moral justification underpinning them.
Yes, although it is worth pointing out that depending on how these surveys were collected, with three quarters saying no reason elective, there could be people choosing that option because they don't want to disclose that they've had an incestuous relationship or they've been raped.
It could be, but unfortunately we can't tell.
And obviously 1.48% women's physical health is threatened by the pregnancy.
1.88% is a woman's psychological health is threatened by the pregnancy.
And then 20% are for social or economic reasons.
And then 74% is just no reason.
So we're looking at about 95%, which is just...
I just don't want it.
Yeah, it's horrendous.
Don't want it.
So right.
So you're using it as a form of birth control.
That's what that is.
95% of abortions in Florida are for birth control.
That's disgusting, isn't it?
So, it turns out as well that abortion is not a risk-free procedure either.
Since 1973, 521 women have died from complications due to legal abortions, just so you know.
And it turns out, if we can go to the next one, that very few abortions are actually for medical reasons, as we know.
Because it turns out that the answer is basically zero.
The number of people who need a medical abortion basically doesn't exist because of the progress of modern medicine.
Abortions performed to preserve the life or health of the mother are so rare they do not register statistically, according to Alan Guttmacher of Planned Parenthood.
So, you know, right-wing propagandists, right?
The people who've got the most investment in promoting abortion.
Basically zero for medical reasons.
As far back as 1981, the former Surgeon General of the United States said, the fact of the matter is that abortion is a necessity to save the life of the mother is so rare as to be non-existent.
Very interesting.
So this is entirely elective, almost.
I mean, literally, if you were just going to roll a dice, you know, the chances are you'll just get your...
It's more that you would have to roll like a dozen dice or something to even have the possibility register the right statistical prominence.
You'd have to roll like 12 ones.
Yes, it's so unlikely.
But anyway, so then...
12 is an exaggeration, but you get the point.
Well, no, you would have to roll.
I mean, it's fewer than 1 in 10.
So anyway, this, I think, reflects really interestingly on the corporations who are suddenly like, well, if you don't have access to abortion, we'll literally pay for it.
Google offering to relocate anyone who wants to move from a state affected by the Roe v.
Wade decision.
Because they don't want to pay for your maternity leave.
Like, they view you not as a human being with a life plan who might have a family.
They view you as literally just a drone, a worker drone.
And they go to Dick's Sporting Goods, which I thought was brilliant, because they actually put a financial number on it.
If you can go to the next one, John, they were like, oh yeah, we'll give you $4,000 in travel expenses to get an abortion.
So we actually have the number.
Four grand, they're prepared to win.
I mean, that's going to cost them millions, you know, in total.
But when they're like, oh, can we have a cost of living raise?
No, but you can go get an abortion.
Yeah, that's what they're spending their money on, right?
Yeah, like, they've got no money for, you know, improved minimum wage or anything like that, but, you know, suddenly the rummage behind the sofa and we find loads of money for the abortions.
There's a lot of alarmism about travel restrictions being imposed, though.
This isn't going to happen.
This is bollocks.
Sorry to mis-swear, but this is just absolute BS. This article, this entire article, doesn't reflect the title on this at all.
So if you've seen this going around, and I've seen this being posted in a bunch of places, it's nonsense.
Obviously, people have a right to travel between states, and they have to follow the laws of each state as they are written.
So if you smoke weed in California, they can't arrest you in Texas.
Shock and surprise.
And so, no, this is nonsense.
But, of course, they're trying to stoke up hysteria.
So what sort of arguments might we have in favor of abortion?
I mean, we've got some moral ones from CNN. Is CNN a moral now?
Well, I mean, they're making arguments on a moral basis that are in favor of eugenics.
Let's watch the clip.
I have not anybody to tell you what you need to do with your life or with your uterus.
And because I have a family with a lot of special needs kids.
I have a brother who's 57 and has the mental and motor skills of a one-year-old.
And I know what that means financially, emotionally, physically, for a family.
And I know not all families can do it.
And I have a step-granddaughter who was born with Down syndrome.
And you know what?
It is very difficult in Florida to get services.
It is not as easy as it sounds on paper.
And I've got another step-grandson.
Who is very autistic, who has autism, and it is incredible.
And their mothers and people who are in that society, who are in that community, will tell you that they considered suicide.
Because that's how difficult it is to get help.
Because that's how lonely they feel.
Because they can't get other jobs.
Because they have financial issues.
Because the care that they're able to give their other children.
And so why can I be Catholic and still think this is a wrong decision?
Because I'm American.
An American eugenicist who thinks that disabled people, Down syndrome people, and autistic people, they'd probably be better off aborted.
Mad.
That's awful.
That's an awful, awful perspective.
I mean, if you're a Catholic, I don't see how you can hold that opinion.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know, I don't work for CNN. But anyway, we've got some good news because when this opinion was leaked, there were loads of women posting on TikTok, well, hookup culture's over.
It's like...
Okay?
I doubt that.
Yeah, A, I doubt it.
You'll still live in California.
But B, good?
You know, what good was hookup culture?
Who was hookup culture good for?
Like, sorry.
Hose.
Yeah, exactly.
That's literally the hose and chads.
Okay, good.
Screw them.
I'm a normal person.
You know, I don't think this is good for anyone.
And this is one of the reasons why things in the West are going so badly, right?
So let's just take some quotes.
In case you're a man who doesn't care about the Roe v.
Wade, just know that if abortion gets banned, hookup culture will be absolutely decimated, says Money Mollusk.
Oh, no.
What women would have mediocre sex with a drunk rando if he could potentially father their child?
Maybe a mediocre rando woman?
I don't know.
Because women can be mediocre too, guys.
But that's good.
I don't think women should be having random drunk sex with mediocre randos.
I don't think that's good.
I think it's healthy for society.
Maybe if we had some kind of social organisation where they actually, like, pair-bonded and lived happily together.
We'll get to that, because they asked the question.
Oh my God, I'm entering my celibacy era.
Thank God.
I'm deleting all dating apps as we speak.
That's a big reveal, isn't it?
What did you use those dating apps for?
It wasn't dating to find a partner.
No, it was for hookups.
Okay.
Since 75% of men only care about sex and money, I hope they know that this Roe vs Wade decision will destroy hookup culture and leave them paying 18 years of child support.
I'd like to see the scientific study issue sites there for that percentage.
Yep.
But of course, in response to this, we have women going on sex strike, which, brilliant.
Don't care.
I'm married, you know.
It's not my problem at all.
So you've got, again, just lots of women on Twitter basically saying, oh, we need a sex strike.
They're also kind of doing you a favour because, well, you don't have to work out that they're crazy yourself.
They're doing it for you.
Also, if we can get to the next one, John, yeah, I mean, you know, like, leftist women in New York, like, women, are like, yeah, I'm going on a sex drug, so yeah, good.
Good.
That last five minutes.
Yeah.
And so the question is being asked, well, okay, men...
Men, you wanted all that easy sex, what are you going to do now to support women and babies?
Like, well, I think the Christians might have some answers.
Like something about marriage, something about, you know, rearing a child together.
Responsibility.
Yeah.
And, no, no, but the answer, of course, is big government.
Wait, what?
Of course the answer's been gone.
Why did you think it wouldn't be?
First, we need to question things like child tax credit.
The issue must be resolved in a way that provides women who might previously sought abortions reliable support to raise their children.
How about you look at your husband?
Go and talk to your husband about it.
If you don't have a husband, go and get one.
Maybe.
Don't have unprotected sex with a man until he's ready to commit to you in marriage.
Well, this is one of the arguments which actually the economics seems to bear out quite strongly, which is that since the state became a replacement for the husband in terms of economic and financial security for women, you see a dramatic increase in divorces and downturn in marriage rates.
You do.
Resulting in most children being raised by two parents, one of them being their single mother and the other being the state.
Yes.
The state is a terrible parent.
Yes.
And also, it means that people who have got nothing to do with your relationship, broken or not, have now got to pay for your child that you are being irresponsible with.
And we all know they want to own your children anyway.
Just look at their policies in state schools.
Secondly, we must broaden and expand existing programs serving women and children, like the Maternal and Child Health Block Grant Program.
Brilliant.
More money will be needed, but we also need to spend it differently.
Or, these hoes can just get married.
Not my problem.
And third, we will need to beef up programs that help couples establish and maintain healthy marriages, and ones that help men become better and more engaged fathers.
Yeah, okay, we can talk about no-form divorce then.
That can be the next thing that Clarence Thomas goes after if you want.
But the point is, this is where they're at.
It's like, look, they have to admit that the institution of marriage had a point.
There was a purpose to it.
And they were deliberately flouting it by being really, really loose with their morals, shall we say.
And they have come to the realization that at least in the conservative states, those days are over.
Mm-hmm.
Give them comments.
Indeed.
Before we jump into the video comments quickly, I just want to point out that Ben and Jerry's had an amazing tweet.
Oh, I didn't see it.
They also weighed in on this, saying that overturning Roe v Wade may only be the beginning.
Many of the rights we take for granted today were not written into the Constitution and therefore could be at risk.
So one begs the question, why were they being protected like constitutional rights if you all accept they weren't written into the Constitution?
Why are you calling them rights and not privileges?
Indeed.
Anyway, sorry about that interruption.
Let's get straight to the video comments.
Mechanomancer, stop trolling Callum.
He's mine.
Also, I'm in Perth right now.
God.
On a more serious note, I wanted to ask, what is your best reason for thinking that all the Woke Weffer crap is going to lose?
I think it's unsustainable.
It's very good at playing the power game, but it doesn't have enough substance behind it to actually create anything that's long-lasting, except for these shallow, empty power structures.
And so, like all things, it will have to lose.
I don't think it's going to lose.
I think it's already won.
I think it's done the damage it's going to do.
I mean, there's so much that would have to change in order to put our civilization on a footing that made it look like it wasn't about to collapse.
That's true, but the only constant in the universe is change.
That is true.
Everything is changing all of the time and with increasing rapidity.
And this, Roe v.
Wade, is just one of those things that you might have thought a year ago even, oh, this is never going to change.
This is going to be here in my great-grandchildren's time.
It's gone.
What's next?
Barence, we'll rely on you.
Yeah, because I tell you, the Clarence Thomas memes.
I love his just unflappable opinions.
He just doesn't care.
Don't respect any of the nonsense you guys come out with.
And, yeah, let's talk about gay marriage.
Let's go to the next one.
Fudging an inch.
There's only a person's life at stake, lady.
Is that all the commentators, just that video?
Put your back into it?
Yeah, like this has basically been touted as the problem with having female fire officers or careers where you need to have a large amount of brute physical strength in order to do the job, like firefighting.
Let's get to the next one.
Looks weirdly happy.
Yeah, so this guy, I think he joined just recently, because the last video of his that I saw, if this is the same guy, he just sort of bought an abandoned manor house.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and so he's slowly doing it up.
Oh, right, that was what the door was, right, right.
Oh, man, I want to Hey guys, I think we need to take a small black pill for our health here really quick.
If you guys think that BLM, the George Floyd riots would be bad, I don't think they're anything compared to what this abortion ruling is going to unleash.
Have you ever heard about the days of rage?
I think we're getting close to that again.
And the fact that nobody seems to realize this tells me we are woefully unprepared for the havoc that's about to happen.
I sure hope I'm wrong.
But if there must be trouble, let it be in my time so that my kids may know freedom.
More kids are going to be alive compared to last year, so it's still a good day.
Yeah, and they're going to be kids of more conservative families as well, aren't they?
Interestingly, there wasn't much in the way of rage.
Not yet, no.
Yeah, and while that was the thing, I mean, you would have thought that it would have been yesterday or the day before, that there would have been huge amounts of rioting.
There was some, but honestly it wasn't very notable.
Well, this is one thing which is making me think.
You know this was leaked like two months beforehand?
It's starting to make me think.
Maybe they leaked it deliberately, okay, tinfoil Hattie, because by the time it actually came around, people had already been primed for it.
It was kind of old news, so it wasn't like suddenly, bolt from the blue, get your pitchforks.
Yeah, the narrative was set.
Right?
They kind of knew it was happening already, so the immediacy didn't really hit most of it.
So maybe they took the sting out of it by doing that.
And also, I can't help but notice that the intersectional allies of the white women, they didn't come out.
Where was the black community?
Where was the gay community?
They didn't come out.
It was a bunch of screeching white women.
It's like, yeah, well, if someone's not going to do it for them, then it's not going to get done, is it?
Well, we are still early days.
There could be a lot more to come.
But quite frankly, I'm not yet seeing the same level of fierceness that we saw with BLM. No, and I think, again, fundamentally, they knew they had something they shouldn't have.
I think that's what underpins it.
But it's also that BLM sort of marketed itself as, let's completely destroy the system.
So that's a very broad church, because anyone who feels at all oppressed by the system, whatever you define that has, can get on board with that.
Whereas here, they're campaigning for essentially strengthening the system, for centralising federal law, and that's got a much smaller constituency, I think we'll find out.
So I may be naive, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as you might think.
Yeah, I was actually, not disappointed, but surprised, because I thought we were going to have loads of stuff where we'd cover it on the podcast.
I'll look at all this violence and damage, but no, you know, Antifa went and rioted in Portland, but that's not news.
I mean, I'd be curious, there might, there's almost certainly going to be some kind of direct action against the Supreme Court justices, which we'll have to keep an eye on.
Well, there has been, hasn't there?
So, yeah, so I don't think it's going to be too bad.
Let's go to the next one.
Why do you keep saying, my fellow Blacks?
Well, because Gary Lineker's the victim of racism.
Are you genuine?
I'm not even joking.
I mean, that would be the stupidest possible thing for him to do, surely.
Oh, yes, I see.
Well, I'm the representative of Wonder Tours, Stuart Farquhar.
Stupid what?
Stuart.
Stuart Farquhar.
I think he was right the first time.
Gotta love carry on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go to the next one.
The fake news Democrats are really upset, okay?
Because it's like I said, we're gonna win so much that you're gonna say, please, no more, no more.
Even after the fake news Democrats stole the election, The Supreme Court justices I put in place, thank you very much, overturned Roe versus Wade.
That's actually a really good impression.
And to be honest with you, you do have to give Trump some credit there.
He did.
Possibly the one place where he managed to leave some lasting good behind in the institutions and they didn't just close ranks behind him.
I saw a clip of him in, I think it was 2016, saying, you know, I'm going to put in a bunch of Supreme Court justices, he'll get rid of Roe v.
Wade, watch it happen.
And it's just like, yeah, I wish I'd remembered it in time for the podcast.
Stop telling mis-truths.
You know to be mis-truths.
I mean, look at ya.
Do people really gonna think that you're a person of color, Gary?
Or that you gotta abuse for being a person of color, Gary?
Come on!
Like, no one's gonna want to associate you with your friend now, and you're in a real-world trouble, because Gary, let me tell ya, but no, we're just chimpanzees, and we're afraid of snakes.
And what are you gonna do about it now?
I love this Gary Lideker story so much.
Yeah, the Peterson impression as well is on point.
Oh yeah.
Canadian Sparky here.
So, this video I'll show you the equipment we use for chicken butchering and then I'll do a video of us killing the chickens and then plucking them and then gutting them and then sticking them on ice.
So they go in the cones to get killed, they get dunked in the water, then they get put in the plucker, Then they go on the sink and get gutted.
And then they go into the coolers where we have a two-stage cooler system.
Seems like a good setup.
I mean, I've butchered chickens before, but I'm not sure I want to see it done on video.
Well, I think we should be in contact with where our food comes from.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
This modern squeamishness needs to stop.
Go to the next one.
Since the topic of happiness seems to keep coming up, I'd like to talk about the two types of happiness.
Pleasure versus fulfillment.
Pleasure is immediate, fleeting, and won't leave you any better than you were before.
Fulfillment requires effort, sacrifice, and discipline, but it'll leave you with a lasting sense of self-worth and purpose.
The left advocates bathe yourselves in pleasures constantly and if you can't, you're oppressed.
Dadism advocates build yourself a fulfilling life and you'll be happy.
Yes, that's exactly right.
I mean, that dichotomy of happiness is one of the better ones, isn't it?
Oh yeah.
And it's just so self-evident that it is a better option.
Because if your life is dependent on pleasure, one bad day is a catastrophe to you.
Whereas if you've got a life of fulfillment, one bad day doesn't matter.
Yeah, but it's also the fact the long-termness in the fulfilling life usually comes throughout through the construction of virtuous cycles in your life.
And so even if a couple of cycles fall out of sync, then you'll have built up the friends and the relationships and so on to put yourself back on track.
Yeah, it's really about building up those virtuous cycles, almost systems that, you know, you just have the habit of getting up at a certain time, making breakfast, getting dressed, getting washed, etc., going out there, doing your day.
And that's a system in itself.
And even when you're having a bad day, if you just go through and tick those boxes, do those things, then just having your circadian rhythm in order will help you not have a bad day the next day.
And even if you have a bad day, that doesn't mean you hate your life.
You know, one bad day doesn't mean, oh, I'm unhappy.
You're not unhappy.
You're just having a bad day.
You know, you're still happy and satisfied, fulfilled with the way that your life is going.
It's so obviously the best choice.
And that's a classic sort of neurotic trait that if one small thing goes badly, you think, oh, it's all over, everything's gone.
And it's just silly.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's get to the next one.
Tony D and Little Joan with another Legend of the Pines, the southern mansion of Cape May, New Jersey.
This was built in 1863 by George Allen, a rich industrialist from Philadelphia.
His family lived here for 83 years until the last family member, Esther McCure, died in 1946.
The place fell into disrepair until another family came along and restored it.
Esther's ghost wanders the halls happy her family legacy has been restored.
Oh, happy ghost.
Yeah, it's nice to have a happy ending to that, isn't it?
I agree.
Anyway, Radcheck was right, says, Are we not going to mention how this is all political theatre?
The memo was leaked and covered for weeks.
Why?
We've never had a SCOTUS leak before.
Oh, it's the midterms, and Democrat candidates have literally nothing to run on.
Not the economy, not jobs, not prices.
But now they can push the single issue ahead of the general quality of life of the average citizen.
Well, you say that, but it is cynical, and it might not be wrong, either.
It's entirely possible there's some staffer who, you know, did this.
But like you were saying, actually, maybe this works well for the right.
Whether that was intended or not.
Yeah, because it softens the blow somewhat.
And you are exactly right.
They've got nothing to run on.
And they are expecting a, quote, shellacking in the midterms.
We've made the country and the world worse in every conceivable way since we got into power.
And we sell ourselves to the American people.
And the thing is, they can't even say we're going to vote to make Roe versus Wade legal because that's not how it works.
So it's like, what are you going to vote for?
Yeah.
The best they can say is, oh, if a Supreme Court justice pops their clogs, then we'll replace them with someone who promises, pinky promise, they'll put Roe v Wade back in maybe 10 years.
Yeah, because, I mean, they'd have to have an astounding victory to be able to make it federal law, I believe, but I'm not an expert, so fact check me if I'm wrong.
But it would have to be a staggering victory to be able to gain the political capital to be able to do that.
So that's not on the cards.
Yeah, well, this is the thing.
The judiciary in America is a very complex institution, and it has power at all levels.
So I'm sure even as we speak, there are people concocting a plot to create the perfect kind of lawsuit that can accelerate to the Supreme Court, provided they have the right people in play.
Yes.
Free Will says, whatever you think of Judge Clarence Thomas' views, the left are very much to blame for the reactions to their behaviour and has become so extremely outlandish that the backlash was inevitable.
And they are the ones who are responsible for getting this to the Supreme Court in the first place.
People like Elizabeth Warren saying they're extremists and that sort of thing.
Joe Biden calling these extremists.
Like, dude, they're conservative justices.
Like, they're really not extremists.
They're not even that conservative.
Like, they are literate justices.
They are actually reading the Constitution saying, oh, we done goofed.
It turns out that the extremists were back in the 20th century who shifted America away from its constitutional roots.
Who, as Ben and Jerry's confirmed, created four new fundamental rights for everyone.
Yeah, that's pretty extreme.
M1Ping says, Ro lied, 63 million babies died.
Like 10 holocausts.
It's true.
It's ridiculous.
It's staggering.
If true, of course, I don't know the veracity of the statistic.
Oh no, I've looked it up.
That is true.
It's interesting.
Like the first 10 years, it's nearly 2 million a year and then it goes down to just under a million a year and then it's been ticking back up.
Weirdly.
Murray says, baby killers big mad.
I don't know about you, but I'm over this BS and I'm just going to gloat.
They get what they deserve.
Yeah, I've got no sympathy whatsoever at this point.
Women will just have to learn to take personal responsibility.
And everyone's going to be like, whoa, I can't do that.
No, they used to do that.
They used to do that.
This is what things were like in the before time, and they will become like that afterwards.
Free Will again says, accusing people of being fascists because those people want to stop the killing of unborn children is perhaps the pinnacle of Orwellian double talk that seems to be the standard for the freak left these days.
But you only have to see the screaming hordes demanding abortion on demand to see how demented some of these people have become.
Yeah, I mean, look at their representatives.
It's all the worst women in the world.
Like, you know, Well, the ones who have the most messed up views of relationships.
No, no, but physically, the physiognomy of these people.
Because if it was the neckbeards out with their fedoras and their massive guts wearing their hentai t-shirts protesting fedora rights, you'd be like, look at them.
They're a disgrace.
Look at them.
They need to go to the gym.
They need to touch grass.
And I'm sorry, but look at all the people protesting.
It's like, no one's having sex with you.
You know, you're in no danger of this.
Anyway, SH Silver says, I do feel bad for women in states where abortion would be banned without exception, such as rape or danger to the mother.
Yeah, it's unfortunate, but they'll just have to go to another state, won't they?
Yeah, which is not a death sentence.
Yes, and it's a very, very small number that will have to do this.
And the corporations are even paying them.
Yes, and Google will, and yeah, exactly, they'll even pay.
But if the left didn't continue to put this disgusting push for abortion into viability, and even up till birth, there have been arguments for post-birth abortions.
They wouldn't have gotten the pendulum swinging back so hard.
Also, Thomas' words were deliberately misinterpreted.
He stated, the basis of the rights on the 14th Amendment was incorrect and should be on the 9th Amendment.
Yeah, he's really quite a constitutional literalist from his judgement.
It's worth pointing out that the reason these corporations are giving money to these women to have their abortions, this is not a virtue signal purely.
It's because they've calculated that they will lose more productivity by the women having their children than by not.
So actually what they're doing is essentially bribing their employees to abort so that they can have more productive work drones.
It's really insidious.
Yes.
And as well, the whole thing is just...
It's so backwards, morally, that you've got these megacorporations who are literally paying women to abort babies.
Isn't that just the most backwards thing in the world?
And you've got the Satanic Temple cheering on this as well.
It's such bizarro world stuff where it's like, yeah, yeah, we're going to literally pay for you to kill your child.
And everyone's like, oh, bravo, Google.
That's so stunning and brave.
It's like, that's hideous.
James says, I'm not against abortion for mental health reasons, but it's not a form of contraception.
Well, not according to 95% of the women in Florida who've had abortions.
When systems are abused on such scale and people won't change, then the laws need to be changed.
How much portrayed and how much is real?
These activists don't seem to be reasonable or articulate.
They aren't having discussions about its importance as an option.
Many of these people want to feel like they have control of their own lives and yet don't want to be responsible for it.
To my mind, control and responsibility are pretty much the same concept.
Yeah, well, that's another thing, isn't it?
These people are slaves to their emotions, slaves to their passions.
You know, they're slaves to...
I mean, the meme that goes around, it's like, well, I have to have unprotected sex with strangers.
It's like, do you?
Do you?
Radchick was right again, says, They keep asserting abortion as a right, but it's not.
Fundamentally, it's a medical procedure.
That's true.
Which requires the skin and labour of consenting individuals outside of yourself.
You don't have a right to that consent or labour.
That's true.
It's just not a right.
Andrew says, What a glorious day Friday was.
Praise God for the end of this federal overreach.
Forcing such immoral practices on the states I had no desire for them.
Once again, the tolerant left shows its authoritarian tendencies and want to enforce their beliefs on everyone.
Yeah, it's very interesting how they argue from this kind of particularist stance and then demand that that has to be a universal stance.
So can't you just be tolerant that some people don't agree with you?
You've argued tolerance for a long time now.
You're going to have to learn it again.
Baystate says, I don't know why people are so upset by the Roe v.
Wade decision.
It's only a clump of words.
words it doesn't mean anything.
Robert says organizations would rather pay for a woman's abortion out of state than pay for maternity leave.
Murdering babies in the womb is cheaper for companies than paying for maternity leave.
Companies don't care about women's bodies they care about the bottom line.
Skin suit of caring again.
It's remarkable isn't it?
It's remarkable.
Your terms are acceptable.
Exactly.
Exactly.
What?
Oh, that's great.
The first man to be memed onto the Supreme Court.
But yeah, isn't that amazing, though?
It's like, literally, if I can't be a whore, then I'll just become a wife, then.
It's like, okay, good, based, brilliant.
Mad.
Trent says, if there are economic reasons that women seek abortion, then conservatives are the problem because they refuse to address them.
Why have these issues not been solved in liberal states and there is still a need for abortion there because of them?
Yeah.
That's a great question.
Itachi says, the pathetic thing about the historic screaming of the pro-choice group is they don't realize abortion has not become illegal.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's another point.
The decision of legality has been returned to the individual states where it belongs.
If you don't like the state's ruling, vote about it or move to a blue area.
Yeah, all of these women protesting, you see it in Los Angeles, New York, Portland, places where abortion is not going to be made illegal.
They're complaining that conservative women don't have the right to do something they don't want to do.
Unless they get in the car and drive for a few hours.
Yes.
Drew says...
Absolute non-issue.
Sorry.
It really is.
I hope to come across as sort of callous or dismissive of American politics, and I can see that this is a big deal.
And I think it's actually quite a victory in a way for states' rights and so on.
But just the hysteria and the stuff they're upset about is such a minor change when you actually look at the facts on the ground that it's hard to empathize with sometimes.
And again, as you say, a victory against federal overreach and a victory against judges legislating from the bench.
Brilliant.
Drew says, friendly reminder to this week's Screechers, California is offered to take in people who want abortions to have them done there, even offering to have them paid for by the state itself.
Oh, really?
I didn't even see that.
Oh, that would be amazing.
How would you feel as a state taxpayer in California that your state dollars are paying for that as well?
Yeah, for women out of state.
To have a holiday with an abortion in it, basically, in California.
Dan says, delighted with the result and feeling blessed for all the babies that will be saved.
Yeah.
Maureen says, there is a disadvantage.
Not every parent is willing to give up their baby for adoption, which may start from good intentions.
But if they're irresponsible enough to neglect use and contraception, then I'm not sure I would trust their emotional maturity to take care of a child.
Mothers tend to be psychologically aggressive and neglectful towards unwanted children, while the fathers are physically aggressive.
I do not envy those children, nor do I envy the children they are going to have when they grow up.
Parenting is strongly influenced by one's own childhood.
Nevertheless, the overturning of Roe vs.
Wade is a good thing.
It is based on too many lies, and it's starting to turn into a forcibly maintained death cult.
Yes, but also one thing is, I think it's more to remember that the people who are screeching now are the product of generations of being able to evade moral responsibility and personal growth.
This, I think, will return to as it was before, where people aren't actually hysterical degenerates, and this, I think, is a step towards, like...
Not pathologizing children is an evil.
It's been two or three generations since this ruling came in place.
Women just got used to in America being able to use abortions as birth control.
That became normalized.
And that's a horrendous thing.
I think that their emotional maturity has been...
They're restrained and arrested, but I think that that will change.
You know, they'll have to grow up, basically.
But you are right, there are going to be some children who will be abused, but I mean, there always will be.
What can you do?
Theodore says, Handmaid's Tale is literally fetish material.
Christian, we should stop abortion.
Feminist, you want to rape me?
Christian, what?
Feminist, you want to imprison me?
Put me in a costume and have high-status men impregnate me?
Christian, what?
Feminist panting.
Their wives will hold my wrists while they...
Yeah, it is...
I saw the funniest post the other day.
It was from a woman on Reddit who was like, is it just me or why do I get uncontrollably horny watching The Handmaid's Tale during the rape scenes?
It's like...
Don't know.
Got nothing to say on it, I'm afraid.
Thane Scotty says, women should be able to control their own destiny.
You don't understand.
If I'm not allowed to take extreme and disproportionate measures to offset my own willingly irresponsibility, I'm basically a dead woman walking.
Why do leftists think literally everyone is a reprobate with brain damage who can't utilize the caution principles?
Because by negating the agency of others, you empower yourself, the rational thinker, and also the state which in your mind is the agent through which your rationality is imposed upon the rest of society.
So if everyone is a dumb prole or a pleb who needs to be looked after, it justifies the creation of this enormous state, and you as the big throbbing brain at the top.
Anthony says, and this is brilliant, it was insane watching Macron criticise the decision on Twitter, given that Mississippi's abortion law is more liberal than France's.
Yes.
12 weeks in France.
15 weeks was the desired one in Mississippi.
Probably going to get banned entirely now, so you get what you deserve on that.
But it was, yeah, it's just mad, isn't it?
Baron Von Warhawk says, she's a Christian woman who hates her own gender.
That's pretty hypocritical, coming from the movement that encourages women to chop off their breasts and fights to keep Middle Eastern thugs who rape little girls.
Theodore says Biden is meant to be a Catholic.
Pelosi is meant to be a Catholic.
AOC is meant to be a Catholic.
No, not AOC. No way, surely not.
Well, I mean, she's Hispanic.
So, I mean, there's a lot of questions about Catholics who have become progressives, in my opinion.
Taffy Duck says, Dankula's Twitter cosplay was arguably the best thing I've seen since the pub video.
Yeah, honestly, it was so funny.
It kept me very entertained this weekend.
Yeah, just...
I was messaging him about it, and he was like, mate, they're still going.
They're still sending me death threats.
And it's just like...
Just...
Thanks, Scotty, says the people who shouted the court is illegitimate are absolutely the example of faces which match the opinion.
Generico says the screaming leftists, mostly peaceful protesters that are rioting over the ruling of Roe v.
Wade are all perfect demonstrations of why abortion is necessary.
General Hai Ping says the rapper adorned in the diamond encrusted crown of thorns screeching for women's rights to kill unborn babies was the highlight of Glastonbury this year.
Yeah, dressing up as Jesus to screech for abortion rights.
What is wrong with these people?
Honestly, there's no shame.
No.
Well, we were saying earlier as well, we have a taboo in the English-speaking world that we don't really call our children Jesus.
Yeah, it's weird.
I mean, why would you do that?
But in other parts of the world, they absolutely do call their children Jesus in the Hispanic world.
Yeah, in the Islamic world, they call them Muhammad.
Muhammad, right.
It's weird.
But we don't even call our children Jesus, and yet here's a guy literally dressing up as Jesus on stage.
Yes, Jesus would have been pro-abortion.
Get narcissistic, really, if you ask me.
Colin says, I of course acknowledge there are a number of factors involved here, but here's an idea, ladies.
Take precautions when you have sex.
That's a good point.
Jonah says, I sentence you hoes to keep your legs closed.
Justice Dank 2022.
Again, you'll just have to court a man and marry him.
That's just the way it has been until this point and how it will be going forward.
Theodore says, it's just so bizarre that people actually thought Dankula was the name of real justice.
Actually, it could be an Italian name.
I guess it could.
It's just really funny.
Yeah.
Henry says, are the leftists twerking for abortion trying to demonstrate what happens when you give birth to a child who has to suffer through the leftist education system?
Maybe they're right and abortion would have been the kind thing for them.
Kevin says, twerking?
Surely it's having their arses going up and down rapidly that's caused the need for abortions in the first place.
And Hak Luyat says, glad to see that Justice Dankler is on the Supreme Court for life.
He's obviously irreplaceable, even though he has to work from home in Scotland.
For some reason, mine isn't...
It's a shame that Dank has to live in Scotland, but apart from that, he's a good lad.
Itachi Okonoha says, The survival rate of a premature baby born at 22 weeks is upwards of 90%.
Any child afforded past this mark is murder, plain and simple.
Yep, pretty good point.
I worked out, by the way, when I said about the dice, it's not 12.
You'd have to roll one dice, get a 6, roll another dice, get a 6, roll a third dice and get a 6, and then only if all those three were 6s could you roll another dice and it would have to be a 4, 5 or 6 to get the quarter of a percent danger to the health, therefore need an abortion.
So you'd have to be phenomenally unlucky, or basically my average time playing 40k.
Exactly.
Ask Pete about my dash rolls.
Edward of Woodstock says, crossing state lines to take human limes is only okay if they're within the womb, apparently.
Yeah, no one's complaining about that now.
In other words, before they're a threat and before they can vote Democrat.
Baron Von Warhawk says, so raising autistic people is too much work, so you might as well abort them as an autistic man who turned my life around and will soon be going to a fancy Ivy League college.
I just want to say, F you, lady.
Yeah, but that was such a horrible thing.
It's like, well, look, for eugenics purposes, basically, because, you know, autistic people are a lot of work.
It's like, you know, your family probably loves those people even though they're disabled.
Yeah.
Or autistic.
I mean, why else...
Why else did they have those kids?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like they grew up in Roe v Wade America, I'm assuming.
Anyway.
It's terrible.
I do hate the eugenics argument for abortion.
It's the worst argument.
Robert Longshore says, if women can have abortions, I should be able to give up my parental fiduciary responsibilities too.
Fair is fair.
And then finally...
Oh, sorry.
That is true, but I think that is approaching it in the wrong way because that further facilitates the growth of the state.
Absolutely.
And then finally, Trent says, ever notice that white liberal women are obsessed with black women needing to have fewer children?
And again, on that sinister note, thank you very much for tuning in today.
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