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June 14, 2022 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #414

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 14th of June 2022.
	This is podcast number 414.
	I can't believe we've done this many already.
	So, I'm your host Harry and I'm joined by Josh.
	Hello there!
	It's nice to see everybody.
	I'm Josh and I'm going to speak svelte and calmly into the microphone so that everybody can hear every little enunciation of every word that I make.
	You're making me sound like David Attenborough or something like that.
	A little bit.
	You're a little bit more soft-spoken.
	Yeah, I mean, I'll take it.
	So, first and foremost, what I want to draw attention to is, of course, this career opportunity of a video editor, which you can both find linked in the reading list down below on the website.
	As well as on the bottom of the website itself under the careers tab.
	So for this video editor position you should be familiar with Adobe Suite, already know your way around Premiere Pro and Photoshop and be able to edit content in a timely manner.
	Skills such as animation and visual effects are also Apparently desirable.
	I don't know a thing about this, but I'm sure if you know anything about video editing, you will know what those things are.
	And of course, you must work from Swindon as well.
	That is something that we cannot change for anyone.
	I had to move for this job, so you will too.
	So yes, if you have the skills and would like to apply, you can find it on our website in those two places I've listed.
	Also, just to shout out that we're sorry we didn't play any of Friday's video comments yesterday.
	We will be playing them later on today at the end of this podcast, so just a heads up for everyone.
	Okay, and final thing is that Carl has a premium hangout, hangout number 12, which is Megacity number one is not an aspirational future, and he's talking about, he's going to be talking about even, how turning Britain into one giant city is not a desirable thing, and I mean, I'm already on board, I haven't even heard his arguments, but I'm sure it'll be fun, because The urbanisation of Britain is a real tragedy.
	It's a real threat is what it is.
	Yeah.
	I kind of want to have some countryside that's worth saving rather than living on top of a bunch of people who are foreign mercenaries.
	Well, didn't you know that Tom Harwood said that only 2% of the English countryside is built on for housing, so that's 98% more to go, boys!
	That's like the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
	Remember, Harwood says that he is a conservative, so...
	But anyway, moving on to the year in Pride.
	Yes, it's time to talk about this year in Pride, where one of the most contentious topics that has been going on for quite a while now is Drag Queen Story Hour, and a lot of other things going on with Pride, as you would expect, the typical degenerate sort of stuff, that we have all come to just...
	Just sort of expect at this point, let's be honest.
	It's quite sad that we see all of this stuff going on with our children, and we just go, ah, business as usual.
	But, before we go any further, you should go onto the website and check out our recent premium contemplations that Josh did with Bo, talking about what makes good art.
	People say that drag queen performances are art, and I'm sure that Josh and Bo will be able to help you to understand whether it would be good art or not.
	No.
	Well, there's your simple answer, but I recommend checking it out anyway.
	Don't spoil all of the surprises.
	If we're fighting a culture war, we've got to know the culture that we're protecting.
	And being familiar with the arts and what makes good art is one of those key questions that you need to answer to do so.
	And I would suggest you check it out.
	Yeah.
	But without any further ado, let's take a look at some of the stories that have come out around this time of year around Pride that relate to the whole Lugabitmer movement as it stands right now and the worrying trends that a few people have started to notice.
	Well, started, have been crying out about for years now, but is only just really getting mainstream attention.
	So, for instance, a queer academic has suggested that paedophilia be taught to schools as an innate sexuality, according to this headline.
	Let's take a deeper look at this article here.
	So, a professor of ethics at Oslo Metropolitan University in Norway is always the professors of ethics.
	I've covered a few people like this in the past.
	Every single one of them have been professors of ethics.
	Wasn't that guy who attacked someone with a bike lock in a sock a professor of ethics?
	Or was it on a chain or something like that?
	On the Berkeley bike lock assailant.
	Yes.
	Yes, I think he was a professor of ethics as well, you know.
	So if you study ethics, it'll teach you how to commit atrocities.
	Yeah, it'll teach you to rationalise your awful opinions and your awful actions to other people.
	Well, I'll carry on.
	So he has called to legalize AI-generated child pornography, claiming that paedophilia should be seen as an innate sexuality that requires destigmatization.
	Now, as a psychologist, would you suggest that if people with these proclivities were to consume AI-generated child pornography, would that subdue their proclivities, or would that potentially encourage them to seek out the real thing, or even create the real thing, would you say?
	I'm not too familiar with any direct research on that, but my gut instinct is it's probably not going to help that much.
	No, it's not.
	The whole thing of having to design that so people can sate their urge rather than suppress it.
	Most AIs study what's already available on the internet to be able to generate algorithms and such, so what is it going to have to study to be able to generate this stuff?
	I would question who would ever want to work on creating an AI that would do that as well.
	And I think the morality of having something like that exist in the first place is morally questionable at best.
	I mean, calling it a sexuality as well is a bit weird.
	To say it's innate, fair enough, that just means that someone's born with something and they can't necessarily change it.
	It's dictated by biology.
	That could be true.
	It seems to me that There have been studies where even after chemical castration there's still this attraction there that's present within these paedophiles.
	It's not something we want to be encouraging.
	It's certainly not anything we want to be broadening the acceptable terms to be encompassing.
	Anything that's a step towards being accepting of it is a step too far in my opinion.
	Yeah, it's an illness and should be treated in the same sort of way that a murderous psychopath would be treated, as far as I'm concerned.
	This guy, I also looked him up.
	He also has a book from 2018 called Paedophilia and Computer-Generated Child Pornography.
	So this is something that's been on his mind for a while right now.
	I don't know what it is about.
	Studying ethics that makes you just accepting of pedophiles, but, you know, be warned, everybody out there.
	It always circles back to these sorts of movements, doesn't it?
	And it carries on, according to their official website, PKI's purpose is to provide access to gender-affirming treatment to the public regardless of factors like non-binary identity, sexual practice, or having other diagnoses.
	Moen has also served as an academic counsel at Sevita, Norway's largest liberal think tank since 2015.
	So what they're saying there is it doesn't matter if you've not got gender dysphoria, it doesn't matter if you've not got any sort of mental illness, as long as you just say you're the other gender, we need to affirm it, and they're trying to lobby for that in Norway, which is...
	Always great.
	So if they're not trying to create AI-generated visions of your child in terrible situations, they're trying to put your child in actual terrible situations.
	Because, of course.
	And, oh God, it says here, paedophilia is bad.
	But how bad is it?
	And in what ways and for what reasons is it bad?
	bad, he wrote in a 2015 paper called The Ethics of Pedophilia, which was then republished in 2018.
	In this paper, it is argued that pedophilia is bad only because, and only to the extent that, it causes harm to children, and that pedophilia itself, as well as pedophilic expressions and practices that do not cause harm to children, are morally alright.
	That's the abstract.
	Right.
	you Well, there's clearly some abnormality, isn't there?
	It's not just, oh, it's all fine as long as they don't predate on children.
	Well, no, because, you know, a normal person is attracted to someone their own age.
	Or at least of mature age.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I mean, I would say those sorts of desires are showing that there is something deeply sick and twisted inside of you, because like you say, we're not normally biologically programmed to be attracted to small, prepubescent children, and that is disgusting.
	Normally what happens is that they themselves have been abused, and then there's this cycle of abuse.
	That happens, where it becomes, I hate to use the word, normalised, but it becomes normalised in their own minds, and therefore they see less moral repugnance in doing so themselves.
	Very interesting.
	But that's just that little one.
	Let's carry on and take a look at some of the stuff that's going on.
	Of course, we have drag queen story hours, hour flashing at young children, whether intentional or not.
	This is from 2019, but I have seen these particular images of this drag queen...
	Flashing a bunch of children his knickers, going around on Twitter, so it's good to know where exactly this comes from.
	from it comes from um something going on at the uh it's a library i think in texas or something like that uh hennepin county library so drag queens have been asked to participate in drag queen story hour and events of a similar nature according to the hennepin county libraries the events promote self-expression dress up and gender fluidity through stories rhymes music and movement with drag performers from around the local community so they are promoting degenerate lifestyles by inviting degenerates to come and speak to their children
	you cannot and i have said this before you cannot convince me that there is not Some of these drag queens, and I would imagine most of them involved in the story, are getting off on it.
	Because drag is an inherently sexual style of performance art, because obviously it's men dressing up as women.
	They are getting off on it on some sense.
	So pairing that up with the desire to also...
	Uh, basically, um, do some performance like that in front of children, where you're basically an exhibitionist in front of children, whether or not you're reading child-friendly stories, is pretty sus.
	Pretty sus to me.
	I find it weird that, have we just run out of children's entertainers?
	Have we just like, oh, you know, we've got this long list of, you know, I suppose children are now scared of clowns, so you can't call them up, but just like, you know what, get the drag queen on the phone, that's who you need to entertain kids.
	Yeah, listen, I get that Noel Fielding had Mr.
	Blobby, and Mr.
	Blobby, yes, was terrifying.
	You look back and it was like some demonic monster from hell, but it wasn't promoting this kind of message, this kind of ideology, and it also wasn't actively flashing children.
	Whether intentional or not, once again, if you're in a position where you're reading stories to kids, and you're in the position where if you cross and uncross your legs, you'll be doing a basic instinct to these children, maybe question the choices that have led you there.
	And then if we carry on, I found this interesting...
	Quite a bit of this actually was taken from stories that were sent in via our tips email.
	So thank you for those people who sent these in because they are very interesting.
	I found this one which is an interesting clash of cultures from someone posting on Reddit on the Police UK subreddit and I'll just read through this.
	"Hi all, throwaway account for obvious reasons.
	Neighborhoods, PC here, in a very diverse, usually quiet patch.
	All the usual drug, booze, ASB incident issues, but having been a silent lurker for a while I'm pretty sure I have it better than most.
	Like most forces, might have thrown their weight behind Pride Month and I have zero issues I'll just read through this.
	We should reflect the communities we serve, and our HQ has raised their rainbow flag in solidarity with alphabet people.
	Again, zero issues.
	So typical sort of police officer that you would expect nowadays, more than happy to go along with a political ideology.
	Doesn't want to rock the boat.
	Yeah, definitely doesn't want to rock the boat here.
	But it seems that this situation has developed where he's having to question how well this political ideology meshes with the diversity of England, shall we say.
	A number of local businesses and organisations and the NHS has followed suit.
	However, and this is where I've become a bit unstuck, I've been asked to attend a local small business and ask them to remove their pride flag as it is in close proximity to an area populated almost exclusively by devoutly religious people.
	I wonder which religious group this will be.
	I know.
	I wonder which religious group could get away with saying we don't like your pride flags around here without being charged with a hate crime, for instance.
	I wonder which.
	But yes, these devoutly religious people, many of whom have complained via 101 that the pride flag has caused an offence on religious grounds.
	Obviously, I have to be careful what I say, but several have raised non-crime hate incidents.
	And I can't help but feel that those have trickled down from SLT to inspectors and sergeants until, on Monday, I was asked to visit this business and asked them to remove the flag to prevent further offence.
	I visited and had a polite chat and brought up the pride flag was causing offence.
	They laughed and made it clear they weren't going to take it down.
	Honestly, I can't help but empathise because I too am a good person.
	Trademark.
	Were you going to say something?
	I was just imagining someone calling up the police line and in a sort of gravelly Middle Eastern voice, just like, help, help!
	They've caused me some offence!
	It just really makes them out to be clutching their pearls.
	Have you ever watched Blazing Saddles?
	No, I haven't, unfortunately.
	Oh, there's an excellent scene in that where he puts a gun to his own head and he's like, help me, help me, help me!
	I'm just imagining that.
	But for the first time in my career, I felt on shaky moral, not to mention legal ground, asking a private business to remove a symbol showing solidarity for a minority community to prevent offence to another minority community.
	Once again, reinforcing that we know exactly who it is that's complaining about this.
	Yesterday, I provided an update to SGT.
	She went away, got advice from further up the chain, and now have been asked to re-attend the business and advise that if the pride flag isn't removed, the business owner could be committing a hate crime by knowingly causing offence to a local religious community who find the LGBTQ plus lifestyle offensive for their religious beliefs.
	This police officer might be coming to the conclusion that perhaps hate crime laws, an increasingly diverse population, and basically bi-monthly pride celebrations at this point, because we celebrate both English pride and American pride for some stupid reason.
	It's interesting here, just like in Rock, Paper, Scissors, that paper beats stone, here...
	I wonder who's holding the stones.
	Yeah, Muslim beats gay, but we already knew that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh dear.
	I mean, that just shows the hierarchy, but perhaps all of these obviously contradictory things don't really mesh together particularly well.
	And then we've got more drag queen stuff, where someone sent in this story about the head of a drag queen story hour having been arrested for possession of child pornography.
	Is anyone surprised?
	Are you surprised?
	No.
	No.
	Brett Blom, former head of the Cream City, that's...
	Very appropriate name for this.
	Alphabet Foundation, which runs a drag queen story hour program, was arrested on charges of possession of child pornography.
	Blom 38 was taken into custody following an investigation into multiple uploads of child pornography through a Kik messaging application in October and November of 2020.
	So that is not at all surprising.
	And we've got plenty of older examples of this stuff as well with the next one that I've got along here, which was a drag queen story time reader who was once charged with child sexual assault, which was doing a story time at Houston Public Library who had to apologize after he was allowed to entertain children.
	The library said that a review revealed that the volunteer never completed a background check before he was allowed to participate in the program.
	Now isn't that reassuring?
	These are the people who are entertaining your children, they're not even performing proper background checks on them.
	Not great.
	You've got to question a bloke who voluntarily spends lots of time with lots of kids.
	If you went to a normal bloke and was just like, do you want to spend your afternoon reading to children?
	I'm pretty sure he'd rather go to the seventh circle of hell than do such a thing.
	Well, I mean, there are some altruistic people out there who would like to spend their time doing that, that would not have ulterior motives, shall we say?
	Well, of course, yeah.
	But when you combine that with the overt sexuality of dressing in drag while you're doing it, that's where it starts to get a little bit suspicious on my part.
	Because, trust me, I don't think all drag queens are pedophiles or anything like that.
	I actually know some drag queens.
	I mean, I lived in Manchester, so of course I do.
	And the thing that really makes it suspicious, once again, is when they start to try and involve themselves in children.
	That's when I get a bit suspicious.
	We've also got the typical brands trying to placate the woke mobs by creating strange and oddly degenerate Pride-style adverts, except this one, as we can see from the footage here, goes above and beyond by just having Pride be what it is on the street, really, being honest about it, and having a bunch of people in nappies and weird clothing and bondage gear.
	Right, this is...
	How is this going to sell fruit?
	I like how this is kind of damaging the cause as well.
	They're like, yeah, we're on board, and then we're just...
	Here's loads of degeneracy.
	I mean, is this secret subversion?
	Are the people who made this advert secretly based?
	We'll leave that up to you to decide.
	Probably not.
	I mean, look at them rolling around in what I can only imagine is the equivalent of food feces.
	Ugh.
	And imagine what they're trying to say with this advert.
	Oh no, my milkshake is spilt all over the place.
	What could this mean, I wonder?
	Drag queen cupcakes.
	I mean, once again, this is not making this food look any tastier to me.
	And you're actively trying to avoid looking at it.
	I am, yeah.
	Are you feeling particularly hungry right now?
	No.
	No, me neither.
	Let's carry on.
	Then we've got stories about people that's another regular thing that's happening quite often recently, which is trans-identified people being just let off because of their identity for being caught with child sex abuse images.
	Yeah, I covered this in the last podcast we did together, didn't I? Where one of the members of the House of Lords wanted to investigate why they'd been let off so lightly, or what was an egregious offence.
	But just to cover this quickly, because it is important to know these things, Peter Selby, who was 68, was found with over 125,000 pieces of child sex abuse media after a police raid in 2019, some of which depicted children as young as three years old.
	Selby is male, but identifies as a transgender woman, and was told by the presiding judge when he was being charged with everything...
	That you identify as transgender and that has caused issues for you and anxiety for you and how you would cope with that if you were immediately sent to prison.
	You are someone who identifies as transgender and the impact of custody would be significant for you in the circumstances.
	So we need to think of the feelings and the circumstances of the poor paedophile here, is what the judge is saying.
	We need to consider their needs and their wants.
	This is collapse of civilisation level.
	It really is.
	And as a result, Selby was handed a 14-month sentence, which was suspended for two years.
	So, suspended sentence, you don't go to prison, you've basically gotten away with it.
	Is this going to decentivise people from engaging in this kind of behaviour?
	No.
	No, it is not.
	And then, coming back up to the most recent stuff that's been happening, this pride is we've got ridiculous things like Amazon workers staging a die-in to protest.
	The lamest way to protest as well.
	You look ridiculous.
	You lie down and put trans flags over yourself, which is quite honestly quite a good representation of the trans community, or at least a certain percentage of them.
	Low-hanging fruit.
	I know, but it had to be said.
	They're doing this to protest transphobic books.
	So approximately 30 employees draped themselves in trans Pride flags and simulated being corpses, laying flat on the sidewalk in front of Amazon's Glamazon Pride 2022 event stage, which would host Pride-related festivities for staff and the public.
	Glamazon was originally for...
	Formatted as G-L-A-Mazon to emphasise the gay and lesbian Amazon employees, but was rebranded in 2017 to place more emphasis on all of the letters of...
	So, these people are the same ones who have previously tried to get Abigail Schreier's irreversible damage, taken off the platform, and they are actively trying to Restrict, in that case, access for a very important book for parents and the children of those parents who might be damaged by this ideology.
	So, if you ask me, in trying to prevent people from getting access to this information, these people are complicit in all of the damage that is caused to the kids.
	Oh, it's so depressing.
	It really is.
	According to Long, who was the one who posted all of the screenshots of this, the employees were specifically protesting the sale of transphobic books, an extension of the earlier efforts to have irreversible damage removed.
	In March, one trans-identified tech employee penned an essay for Business Insider stating he quit the company, specifically because of what he deemed anti-trans practices at Amazon, including selling Trias books.
	So, good riddance to you.
	And it's funny how they don't protest other kinds of books calling for violence, though, like earlier this year where many feminists raised concerns about a book called Manhunt, the plot of which was centred around the brutal murder and torture of women and celebrates the death of Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling.
	How brave, how stunning, how inclusive, wouldn't you say?
	And I'll just carry on with a bit of this.
	Let's get some quickfire ones in here.
	We've got teachers needing comfort from their students when they come out as a lesbian to their 11-year-old students.
	Let's play the clip here.
	This is sent to Libs of TikTok.
	I've been wanting to do this for the past two years.
	Sorry, I'm like so emotional.
	And I just haven't had the courage to do it out of fear of judgment, mostly from their parents.
	But I had these kids in fourth grade and now I have them in sixth and I'm sending them to middle school and I love these kids so much and I trust them and they make me feel safe and I know they love me and it just felt right and I did it and it was so beautiful.
	They had so many questions, which I loved.
	They wanted to learn and they wanted to learn about me and they were so eager and a few of them clapped, which was so precious.
	That did not happen.
	And then everybody clapped.
	Yeah, literally, and then everybody clapped.
	I mean, if that did happen, it's pathetic.
	Why are you looking for validation from 11-year-olds?
	Pretty confusing behaviour, but it just goes to show the mental immaturity of these people, and the fact that this is a teacher as well.
	I mean, what are the standards for teaching practices nowadays?
	I swear to God.
	Let's carry on.
	We've got more drag queens flashing people.
	And this was from Libs of TikTok.
	An all-ages family-friendly event.
	I can see your soul slowly trying to escape your body.
	This is my first time back in work for a little while after being ill.
	I'm trying to make you ill again.
	Yeah, I can feel my lunch slowly coming back up again.
	And people have pointed out to this and responded, but like, but Hooters is a thing that exists, and look at these pictures that we've got of children at Hooters in the next one, John.
	And it's like, yes.
	That's still not good.
	It's still not great, but also society as a whole is not pushing this on people.
	This is a fault of the parents, whereas the drag queen and stuff and all of the pushing of gender ideology is directly a fault of the institutions pushing it on them.
	And of course, as a result of all of this, you're going to get massive amounts of pushback, which is exactly what has been happening, like in this Vice article where Proud Boys stormed a drag queen story hour event for kids.
	Yeah, where they disrupted a reading event for kids hosted by a drag queen at a library in California, because of course it was in California, according to police, and now the incident is being investigated as a potential hate crime, but you can...
	You could be sure if it was J.K. Rowling reading stories to kids and say it was a bunch of trans activists coming and do the same thing.
	That probably wouldn't be a hate crime.
	They wouldn't be investigating that.
	Drag queen Panda Dulce was reading a book to preschoolers near Oakland as part of a pride event when five men described as members of the Proud Boys interrupting the reading.
	According to a press release, the men began to shout homophobic and transphobic slurs at the event organizer and were extremely aggressive with a threatening violent demeanor causing people to fear for their safety.
	Now, I do not encourage this sort of behaviour, but what did you expect when you are pushing this on kids?
	Expect there to be some kind of backlash against it.
	and I'd say the backlash is justified.
	I just wouldn't say go and violently harass people.
	For instance, obviously.
	Several of the men were wearing Proud Boys black and yellow colours and one wore a shirt that read, Kill your local paedophile, according to a video obtained by NBC Bay Area.
	One man repeatedly called the event sexual while others flashed the OK hand jester.
	Co-opted by the far right.
	Oh, typical vice journalism right there.
	Obviously, drag queen performances are sexual.
	I don't think anybody could deny that with a straight face.
	And I don't want to read any more of this article, seeing as they seem to have fallen for...
	Still fallen for the 4chan meme that apparently this means white power.
	I mean...
	What a retard.
	What an absolute retard.
	At the end of the day, all I'm saying is if this kind of behaviour goes on, things will escalate, whether I or anybody else wants it to or not.
	And positive feelings towards the LGBT++ community will begin to evaporate, as we have been seeing recently.
	And to be honest, guys, you'll have no one to blame it on but yourselves.
	So, carry on at your own warning.
	That was sufficiently blackpilling.
	Well, I think I'm going to get any better, because I'm going to blackpill you even more, which is one of my favourite pastimes these days, is to make everyone miserable.
	And I'm particularly good at it, so let's get right into it.
	So, the Washington Post has driven the lady behind Libs of TikTok basically into hiding.
	So we're going to be talking about this continued attempt by the establishment, both the corporate press and Twitter's behind-the-scenes sort of staff, along with some garden-variety left-wing activists, who to be fair have a large overlap with the former groups as well, to damage the woman behind the Libs of TikTok Twitter account for drawing attention to things such as grooming in schools and, you know, being deliberately politically partisan, these sorts of things.
	So yes, this is more or less going to follow the story of how a simple article by a so-called journalist in the Washington Post resulted in her receiving death threats and eventually having to go into hiding.
	I'd say legitimised doxxer rather than journalist if you're talking about our old pal Taylor Lorenz.
	Let's go on to this article, shall we?
	So this is the one that kicked it all off.
	It's titled, Meet the woman behind libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right outrage machine.
	Not sure if it's really an outrage machine.
	I mean, surely that's what the left is doing.
	It's creating the outrage, but there we go.
	So the byline reads, A popular Twitter account has morphed into a social media phenomenon spreading anti-LGBTQ plus sentiment and shaping public discourses.
	The opening paragraph says, Seems to make the claim that it is something that sets the agenda for right-wing media.
	So it says, on March 8th, a Twitter account called Libs of TikTok posted a video of a woman teaching sex education to children in Kentucky, calling the woman in the video a predator.
	The next evening, the same clip was featured on Laura Ingram's Fox News programme, prompting the host to ask, when did our public schools, any schools, become what are essentially grooming centres for gender identity radicals?
	Notice the lack of context for what was actually being taught in this sex education class, because the second you start to name the actual things that these teachers are doing, it becomes a lot harder to defend.
	But this isn't the egregious part.
	Obviously, shoddy journalism is no stranger to the Washington Post, but the article continues to name the person behind the Libs of TikTok account.
	As well as the reporter who wrote the article asking questions to both her family and friends, and that's sort of stepping over a line, isn't it, really?
	Yeah, I mean, I covered a bit of the story when it first came out, and she didn't just, you know, question her family and friends.
	She began to show up at their homes, track down their addresses.
	Like you said in this article itself, she names the woman behind the libs of TikTok account.
	And I went out of my way when covering this to not give the name out.
	Because honestly, if you are criticizing libs of TikTok for the content you're posting, the only reason to bring the name into it, to dox somebody like that, is as a form of intimidation.
	Is as a form of trying to get leftist, crazy activists to track this person down and violently assault or intimidate her.
	So it's just completely unnecessary and we know, we can see why it is that you're doing this.
	So it's worth bringing up the journalist in question, Taylor Lorenz.
	So here she is, her profile on the Washington Post, because she was mired in...
	Lots of controversy.
	Not unearned, I would add.
	I mean, she also was crying in the weeks before she did this.
	Yeah, playing the victim.
	Yeah, about how she'd been doxxed.
	So, I mean, you should know how bad it is.
	Why are you deciding that it's okay if you do it to somebody else?
	And this is exactly what the quartering has pointed out.
	He says, every time this fraud puts out another hit piece attacking others, she immediately plays the victim to blowback, to avoid any criticism.
	Woman, you are a journalist with the full might of the Washington Post behind you, and you are stalking Twitter annons.
	Don't you like your own medicine?
	And of course, she's blocked him.
	Of course she has, but I mean, pretty legitimate criticism right there.
	But this article then sparked lots of other corporate journalist reporting.
	Here, this next one has her name in the title, which I'm not going to repeat.
	However, I believe that I can show it to you all because you're all mature.
	And responsible people.
	Yes.
	I trust our audience to be nice because, generally speaking, you are, at least to us.
	I think we all support Libs of TikTok and what she's doing as well, so...
	Yes.
	So, not going to read it out, but Newsweek published it right in their title, which is pretty despicable, if you ask me.
	Also, moving on to Slate.com.
	They have the hate-fuelled and hugely influential world of the libs of TikTok, so they're all piling on.
	And then, mysteriously, you get these articles coming out, like this one from The Atlantic, Doxing means whatever you want it to.
	Does it?
	And then it has a byline saying, the word once defined a category of behaviours, now it expresses an emotion.
	It's just like, doxing, it's just like a vibe, man, isn't it?
	Yeah, you know, it's just like, kind of how you feel.
	Am I being doxed?
	Am I not?
	I don't know.
	I'm waiting for the doxing can cause violent intimidation.
	And that's a good thing.
	I'm waiting for that headline.
	I know it's coming.
	And there's one from NBC News here.
	There's a proper term for what happened to lives of TikTok's creator.
	It's not doxing.
	I knew exactly where it was going with the accountability and then just in the subheading right there.
	The correct word is accountability.
	Oh, piss off.
	And I feel like this is a good moment to bring up the fact that I have an episode of Contemplations titled Why the Corporate Media is Terrible, where we walk through all the different ways in which they misreport things, actively lie, and how they conceal their lies to twist narratives, and why...
	We hate them, more or less.
	So if you want to see it in a nice condensed format, your hour and a half of hate will be here.
	Yeah, I was going to say, it should be obvious on the face of it, but if you want to join in in the nice cathartic expression of hatred, go watch this.
	Yes, it's got me in it.
	Oh, don't put them off.
	That's true, yeah.
	It also has John Wheatley.
	Oh god, even worse.
	No, I'm joking.
	So yes, so the setup of all of this, then, you know, releasing her public information, as you can imagine, there was fallout from this, and you can see why people are critical of it, because it's one of those things.
	Oh yeah, sorry, but before I move on, I forgot this amusing article to me, that the Twitter activist behind the far right lives of TikToks is an orthodox Jew.
	Does that matter?
	Does it matter, Harry?
	I mean, that's a good question, because as far as I'm concerned, no.
	That's the normal person's answer.
	No, it doesn't.
	But you mean to say that all of these corporate journalists had a problem with, you know, a Jewish person anonymously, supposedly influencing the news?
	Well now, guys, with the anti-cinematic remarks.
	Seriously.
	If you need any more evidence that horseshoe theory is a thing, There you go.
	The fact that they've made it important in the first place is just weird to me.
	But yes, moving on to some of the fallout of all of this.
	So Libs of TikTok herself is saying, Twitter employees are currently debating whether to ban us.
	We have screenshots of their internal discussion.
	Substack dropping shortly.
	And then they link to where you can subscribe.
	So here we have a screenshot which the quartering has posted from the Twitter employees.
	So if you could open up this picture, John, thank you.
	So it's got a thread here.
	Obviously we can't confirm whether it's genuine or not, but the quartering seems to think it is.
	And it says, but if we de-platform this account, we might erode trust in our platform from users who already think we're irredeemably biased against conservatives.
	No, who already know your irredeemable bias against conservatives.
	And then they say, I mean, we...
	This is a response.
	I mean, we successfully deplatformed Trump.
	I don't think deplatforming lives of TikTok is going to cause a mass exodus, and I guess it may not be in our judiciary.
	Fiduciary.
	Fiduciary.
	Weird word.
	Do you know what that means?
	I looked it up.
	Because I didn't know what it means.
	And you call yourself an economist, eh?
	I don't know all the words.
	You don't know all the words?
	What a dumbass, guys.
	Yes, so it's relating to a duty or acting in good faith is what that word means.
	So not be in our judiciary interest to enact a ban on a high-profile account right now.
	So they've realised that the Eye of Sauron is upon them.
	The right-wing Sauron, not the left-wing one that's always busy.
	When it comes to financial stuff like fiduciary, when it comes to big corporate businesses like Twitter, the responsibility would be to make sure that you're not actively trying to devalue the stocks, which I think is also illegal if you're actively trying to devalue.
	But these guys don't care.
	They're like, oh yeah, we might be breaking the law, but these guys are hurting our fifis.
	So while they're focusing on clearly a politically partisan person who's not really broken any rules, other stuff has been going on.
	So let's have a look at this.
	So in response to the Libs of TikTok announcement, oh, so Twitter has the time to discuss removing Libs of TikTok, but didn't have the time to remove a child abuser operating on the main feed of Twitter for four years.
	Um...
	Apparently there was abuse material and 290,000 followers.
	So apparently this is someone in Thailand, there's an article from the Bangkok Post here, that police tracked down the user who, yeah, they confirmed 290,000 users followed them on Twitter.
	Thank goodness we got all those conservatives off the platform.
	And to think Elon Musk is worried about all the bots when, to be honest, the problem, 290,000 nonces.
	Yeah, I think Elon might have been made aware of this, actually.
	He was, yeah.
	I'm going to get onto that.
	So, moving on to the next post.
	Update, I've now received about a dozen death threats after radical leftists accused me of being a domestic terrorist extremist.
	Twitter has not removed any of these accounts of those who sent the threats.
	So they're talking about removing the libs of TikTok account whilst not removing the actual death threats to the account, which I believe is a legal obligation, isn't it, to remove death threats and stuff?
	I would imagine so.
	At least just in terms of if you are trying to promote trust in your platform, show that you are going to remove obviously bad actors.
	But yes, this is what happens when you publish someone's personal information.
	I mean, it's not really a surprise.
	Obviously it's doxing, and it's ridiculous.
	I respect her for carrying on so steadfastly, despite the fact that it's an obvious intimidation tactic.
	It's obviously an attempt from the establishment to quash a dissenting voice, isn't it?
	This is not an establishment figure here, running a Twitter account.
	You're doing stuff we don't like.
	We're going to crush you.
	If you don't like it, well, tough.
	You're going to have to go into hiding.
	So moving on, Glenn Greenwald reported on here a death threat that was shared by Libs of TikTok, saying this is what it's like to be a woman on the internet who got doxxed by a newspaper owned by the world's richest man, actual death threats and encouragement of suicide.
	Since liberal outlets only care when this happens to rich, famous national journalists, they'll ignore this.
	Which is a good point.
	It's true.
	However, the example he's got there is actually a poor taste joke.
	This one here.
	The person actually came out who did it and was just like, oh, it was a joke.
	I thought they would get it.
	Yeah, that does look like a joke.
	I mean, all the emojis alone should say it.
	But I can understand lives of TikTok is probably in quite an emotionally vulnerable state.
	There are probably lots of other genuine ones because when we're dealing with left-wing activists they're not afraid to give people genuine death threats.
	Or just actually kill people.
	Yes, exactly.
	So it's not an unreasonable concern and I'm sure some of them are genuine but I wanted to clear up this because there was a case of it not being genuine.
	So, the final update is that Libs of TikTok states, After the events of the past two days, I've decided to move to a safer location until things calm down.
	Thank you for all your kind words and support.
	So, this has gone from a Washington Post article to someone having to go into hiding.
	So, yes, it's very frustrating.
	There we go.
	It's on screen now.
	So, Funnily enough, Taylor Lorenz, the one who kicked it all off, doesn't care about this.
	And if we have a look at some of her tweets here, she's just like, of course, as in Elon Musk is weighing in.
	As if to say, oh, of course he's getting involved.
	He always sticks his pesky nose in.
	Elon Musk caring about the safety of women.
	What a joke, guys.
	And then there's another one here where Ian Miles Chong is talking with Elon Musk.
	She says, these people are about to delude each other into finally forcing Twitter to release user safety features.
	Almost sounds annoyed, but there we go.
	They're more or less saying, if we can pull up the picture, on a Just platform...
	This is Ian Miles Chong.
	Oh, it's not available.
	Oh, bye-bye.
	Never mind.
	So yeah, on a just platform, everyone will be treated equally as it is.
	You can be banned from merely criticising nutty and threatening woke progressives, but they can send conservatives death threats without any repercussions, which is actually a pretty accurate summary of how things go on Twitter.
	And then Elon Musk, of course, going to buy Twitter, platform cannot be considered inclusive or fair if it is biased against half the country.
	Good point.
	Which is promising.
	So, Elon Musk weighing in on this is, you know, great, because it's on his radar, this egregious example of corporate journalists basically allowing people to bully someone into hiding because they don't like what they're doing.
	I mean, given that Elon has also been making waves talking about demographic collapse of the West and other sorts of things, I imagine Libs of TikTok has been on his radar just so that he can understand what's going on in schools, because Elon has, what, like eight kids?
	He's probably going to be concerned about what they're going to be taught in schools, especially given that the mother of some of them is Grimes.
	I think he can afford to send them to whichever school he wants, to be fair.
	That's true, and if they don't teach them what he wants, he can just buy the school and force them to do what he wants.
	So there you go.
	Quick update on what's going on with Elon Musk, because this could potentially help these sorts of things from happening again in the future.
	You know, people bullying people into hiding, things of that nature.
	This article from Business Insider, it says, Elon Musk is to attend an all-hands meeting at Twitter this week, starting today, speaking to staff for the first time since launching his $44 billion acquisition.
	So yes, apparently, according to Business Insider, we should see a shareholder vote on the sale by around early August time.
	So that's how that's progressing so far.
	However, we did have a case of some Twitter internal people resisting because they were withholding data about how many bots they have on the platform they have.
	They said, okay, we've calculated it's this many, and then they didn't give the working, so they could just be pulling a figure out of their behind, and Elon Musk is just like, no, I want to figure it out for myself, because I don't trust you, because obviously you wouldn't trust people at Twitter.
	So yes, that's delaying things a bit, and it's got some shareholders slightly concerned.
	And the Telegraph seems to think that Elon Musk could be left with a 33.5 billion bill if they spook the Twitter investors.
	However, I wasn't able to actually find where they got this figure from.
	However, they did state that if either party sort of closes the deal now, they have to pay a billion to the other.
	So whoever kind of shuts down the deal has to pay a billion pounds, which is a good incentive to them to stay negotiating until they have something worked out.
	I mean, I would hope that the heads of Twitter would think like that, but at the same time when you've got people saying, you know, in Twitter personal DMs, like, I don't know if we should really care about our financial responsibilities to the stockholders.
	We should just get this person off of the platform.
	I don't trust Twitter as an actor.
	No.
	On any level, from the highest people at the top to the very people at the bottom.
	I don't trust the cleaners who clean the bathrooms in Twitter towers, wherever that is.
	But yes, hopefully things are going to get better in that front.
	However...
	I hope you find the story of how a Washington Post journalist basically bullied someone into hiding because she didn't like their politics, as harrowing as I did, and a disturbing display of the corporate media's power to crush dissenting voices and ruin people's lives, really.
	Nice one.
	Bear with me for one moment, lads.
	Also notice we've got a fly, which isn't helpful.
	It'll be like that episode of Breaking Bad.
	I had my Kleenex on hand seeing as we were talking about drag queens.
	You never know what's going to happen.
	Alright then, moving on.
	Let's talk about the California Homeless Industrial Complex as it has been branded by some.
	So a lot of the information I'm going to be referencing from this segment is going to be taken from Michael Schellenberger, both his Twitter account And his substack, because he is a person, he's a public intellectual type, he wrote some books on climate change, mainly Apocalypse Never,
	and most recently he's written a book called San Francisco, which I need to get around to reading, talking about why progressives ruin cities, and he seems to be an ex-progressive type who's seen the actual outcomes of the utter lunacy that they propose, and decided that he wants to stand against it, and I really respect him for that, and he's He's currently running for governor in the November gubernatorial elections in California.
	Do you know if he stands a chance?
	Probably not.
	He's running as an independent, so I doubt it, but it's good that he is bringing a lot of the information that he is to light to just show what an absolute cesspit California is and why exactly it is the way that it is.
	And good luck to him.
	I hope that he can unseat Gavin Newsom.
	I mean, Larry Elder didn't manage it last year, but we can always keep our fingers crossed for these situations.
	Given that Gavin Newsom seems to be literally evil...
	I think when I see images of him, he looks genuinely evil.
	He looks like someone who's the last boss of a video game, who will just nanomachines son, except much less awesome.
	He'll lock down the entire state and then go for an expensive dinner.
	Yeah, that is exactly what he'll do.
	And before we go any further, I'll just point out, Josh and I had a premium podcast come out yesterday talking about how the left does not understand economics.
	Just like the left does not understand a lot of things, I think we might have to make a series of this, to be honest.
	And the next one might be, left doesn't understand culture, or maybe the left doesn't understand homelessness.
	Because if anything in this segment is going to make it clear, they definitely do not understand homelessness.
	Well, most homelessness is drug-related, isn't it, a lot of the time, and then if you look behind the drug-related nature of it, then it's normally mental health-related, and then the mental health stuff is normally related to family and upbringing, so you can trace it all the way back to they didn't have a stable childhood.
	More or less.
	Basically.
	But California is particularly bad at encouraging this.
	We've all seen the images and videos of people walking down the street in LA, for instance, and just seeing rows and rows of tents of people sleeping rough.
	And it's much the same in San Francisco.
	And I don't even really want to mention some footage that I've seen.
	It amazed me the first time I saw it.
	I was just like, I thought LA and places like that were meant to be, you know, upmarket and nice.
	And then I saw all these tents.
	And I mean, I like going camping and stuff, but not to that extent.
	Yeah, I mean, for a little while there's been some discontent within LA, even from people within Hollywood.
	Like, one of my favourite films, Mulholland Drive, is secretly about LA as a complete asshole.
	Don't go there.
	Women, don't try and go to Hollywood.
	They will just destroy you.
	And it was a...
	before Harvey Weinstein or anything like that had come out.
	So it was a very timely message, to be honest, and more people should have listened.
	But anyway, let's carry on.
	So here's the thread that I got a lot of this information from that I saw him putting this forward, where he's talking about many people who call themselves homeless advocates, because that's a thing you get in California, and I would imagine across a lot of other progressive states in America, are not.
	Rather, they are ideologues who oppose getting mentally ill and drug-addicted people the help that they need, and they are often more motivated by hatred of modern society than by compassion for people in need.
	And he tags...
	He quote tweets this tweet from Kevin Dahlgren, which if we move over to the next one, I can read because he's talking about an actual experience he had, where in 2021 we were working with a man deep into his addiction.
	He called and requested help.
	Activists physically blocked us from helping.
	A few days later, he died of an OD. Not one of the activists showed up to his vigil.
	That's why I call it the Homeless Industrial Complex.
	Which, just a horrible situation to be in.
	If you're this person who obviously needs help, if you're in that situation, you probably don't want to accept help, but you need help.
	And these people are actively helping this person to end his life, basically.
	Because apparently that's better than submitting to the system, man.
	Capitalism wants to get you off of heroin, therefore we're going to keep you on it, yeah.
	Yeah, this is what Karl Marx wanted.
	Probably.
	Yeah, that's why I used that opiate of the masses analogy.
	Yeah, it was actually encouragement.
	I think that was him anyway.
	It probably isn't.
	And other people have responded to Schellenberg's original Twitter thread, saying, this guy said he used to be a lawyer for the mentally ill, and when he was visiting them in hospitals, he was often accosted by advocates screaming at me that my job was to get them freed and back on the streets, regardless of their condition.
	So, you know, they could still be in the middle of an overdose, and their position is that you should be getting him on the street, so instead of overdosing in a hospital, he can overdose under the stars, like he obviously truly wants to be the case.
	Absolutely ridiculous, and there is such a performative nature to this kind of activism, as far as I see it, because it is not activism for the other, it's not activism on their behalf, really.
	It's activism to make yourself feel good because you're living up to whatever twisted principles that you may have.
	And I completely hate this sort of thing.
	And Schellenberger linked this article from The Atlantic.
	Shockingly enough, it's a decent article.
	Appropriately titled, How San Francisco Became a Failed City.
	And there's quite a lot of interesting information in here.
	I'll read through some of it just to illustrate the situations that I'm talking about and how it is that the city got here.
	So the person, this Nelly Bowles, starts off talking about their own experiences in San Francisco growing up.
	And I assume Nelly is a woman, so I'm going to say she...
	I learned young that it was impolite to point when a naked man walked past by, groceries in hand.
	If someone wanted to travel by unicycle, like a clown, or be a white person with dreadlocks, like a clown, or raise a child communally among a group of gays, or live on a boat, or start a ridiculous sounding company, that was just fine.
	Between the bead curtains of my aunt's house, I learned that you had to let your strangeness breathe.
	And...
	These are all things that, yes, you are able to do, I suppose, but you can see immediately how it's setting some pretty terrible cultural standards for behaviour within the city.
	I mean, recently Carl and I covered Matt Walsh's What is a Woman.
	Have you seen it yet?
	No, I saw the first half an hour and then I had to do something else, but I am going to finish it.
	You should watch the rest of it.
	I enjoyed what I watched.
	There is a part of that which we chose not to show any clips of when we were covering the film because I thought it would be inappropriate and nobody would want to see that.
	Well, Walsh goes to San Francisco and speaks to a man who's just naked on the side of the street and Matt Walsh is like, do you not think this is inappropriate?
	And the man's just like, listen man, I grew up around naked people and I turned out just fine.
	I mean, just look at me, just standing naked on the side of the road in San Francisco, not really doing anything.
	You know, there's nothing damaging about this kind of behaviour.
	It's ridiculous, and you can see how this complete throwing away of any standards has led to San Francisco as it is now.
	I'll carry on.
	Once, when I was very little, a homeless man grabbed me by the hair, lifting me into the air for a moment before the guy just dropped me and my dad yells.
	For years, I told anyone who would listen that I'd been kidnapped, but every compromise San Francisco demanded was worth it.
	Doesn't sound it to me.
	I was kidnapped, but it was worth it.
	Yep, this homeless man abused me, but god damn, have you seen the beautiful architecture?
	It's all worth it in the end, guys.
	That must be so unpleasant to be picked up by your hair.
	Especially as a child, yeah, that would be awful.
	Well, at any age, yeah.
	But they carry on.
	Yesterday, San Francisco voters decided to turn a district attorney, Chaser Bowden, or I'll just say Bowden, out of office.
	They did it because he didn't seem to care that he was making the citizens of our city miserable in service of an ideology that made sense everywhere but in reality.
	I wouldn't even say outside of reality, it makes sense.
	is just completely illogical.
	It's not just about Bowdoin though, there's a sense that on everything from housing to schools, San Francisco has lost the plot.
	The progressive leaders here have been LARPing left-wing values instead of working to create a liveable city.
	Did they actually say that in this Atlantic article?
	Yes.
	They called them LARPers.
	Yes, basically.
	Someone's getting fired.
	Many San Franciscans have had enough.
	And, you know, it's terrible that it's had to get to this point for people to finally realise, hold up, all these crazy, progressive, altruistic ideas are not working.
	They're in fact making everything worse and ruining everything.
	At least they've finally got there.
	You know, at least there's that.
	Only about 50 years too late, but...
	Got there eventually.
	Because this sounds like a dignified situation.
	Is that an ironic...
	No, I think these people legitimately believe that, don't you see the dignity in what we're seeing here?
	No.
	No, I don't.
	And you shouldn't either.
	A young man is lying next to it, stoned, his shirt riding up, his face puffy and sunburned, but enough about Josh.
	Inside the enclosure, services are doled out.
	Food, medical care, clean syringes, referrals for houses.
	It's basically a safe space to shoot up.
	The city government says it's trying to help, but from the outside, what it looks like is young people being eased into death on the sidewalk, surrounded by half-eaten boxed lunches, stepping over people's bodies, blurring my eyes to not see a dull needle jabbing and jabbing again between toes.
	It coarsened me.
	I've got used to the idea that some people just want to live like that.
	I was even a little bit defensive of it.
	Hey, it's America.
	It's your choice.
	And I know that America was founded on values of freedom and liberty, but I don't think this is kind of what the founding fathers had in mind for what people would choose to do.
	I don't remember the amendment that was just like, you have a right to be a smackhead and lie on the street.
	I mean, technically, I suppose you do as long as you're not hurting anybody else.
	It's just, why would you want to?
	Also, there's the idea that, for me, that all of these public roads being owned by the government helps to encourage this sort of stuff.
	Because if it was like a private road or something, whoever owned it, you could just...
	Get them to clear off.
	I'll hire my private security to point guns at you until you leave me alone.
	That's the true American dream right there.
	A couple of years ago, one of my friends saw a man staggering down the street, bleeding.
	This is not a nice little story here.
	She recognized him as someone who regularly slept outside in the neighborhood and called 911.
	Paramedics and police arrived and began treating him, but members of a homeless advocacy group noticed and intervened.
	They told the man that he didn't have to get into the ambulance and that he had the right to refuse treatment.
	So that's what he did.
	The paramedics left, the activists left, the man sat on the sidewalk alone, still bleeding.
	A few months later, he died about a block away.
	And that's just an awful sort of story to hear.
	And it's the fact that, yes, these people have probably got themselves into a situation through drug addiction, through behavioural problems where they are on the street, but people are trying to help them.
	You can still turn yourself around when you're in a situation like this, potentially, but these homeless advocacy groups are actively intervening in those sorts of measures, which is just terrible.
	These people are complicit.
	Yeah, I don't understand what runs through their minds.
	When someone's bleeding, you're just like, yeah, you don't have to get in that ambulance, you know?
	Yeah, don't worry about it, man.
	What's the worst that can happen?
	You could die, but, you know.
	But then you'll be really free.
	Isn't everyone truly the most free when they're dead?
	I mean, that's the sort of logic.
	The environmentalist position, yeah.
	I mean, basically the antinatalist position, yeah.
	I used to tell myself that San Francisco's politics were wacky, but the city was trying, really trying to be good.
	So even the author of this article was coping so hard back in the day.
	But the reality is that with the smartest minds, questionable, and so much money and the very best of intentions, San Francisco became a cruel city.
	It became so dogmatically progressive that maintaining the purity of the politics required accepting or at least ignoring devastating results.
	and this does sound like dystopian to me and it's the fact that the elected officials who are behind all of these progressive policies they don't have to walk the streets if they don't want to and if they do walk the streets they can just bring a retinue of security with them they don't actually have to live in the city the same as everyone else does they don't have to experience this it's very easy they live in a nice safe area If you're going to die on the street, San Francisco is not a bad place to do it.
	What a ringing advertisement!
	The fog keeps things temperate.
	There's nowhere in the world with more beautiful views.
	City workers and volunteers bring you food and blankets, needles and tents.
	Doctors come to see how the fentanyl is progressing and to make sure that the rest of you is alright as you go.
	So...
	There is a thing where people...
	Josh, I know that you and Hugo in the past on A Contemplation has talked about the drug war and how unsuccessful it is, and how decriminalising drugs could potentially help some of the issues that are brought up by the drug war.
	But there is a massive difference, wouldn't you say, between just decriminalising drugs and leaving people to it, and actively helping people to take drugs, which is essentially what this is.
	I also have a bit more of a, I suppose, a moderate position on it in that I don't think that opiates should ever be legal to have because they're just so addictive.
	It's one of the receptors in your brain, the opiate receptors, that is most prone to reinforcing behaviour.
	So if you want to become addicted to a substance, an opiate is a very easy one for that to happen to.
	So you could argue that there's not really much in the way of recreation.
	Sure, it could be used in a medical setting, but beyond that, I don't think it really should be available.
	No, I certainly don't think that any sort of community should be encouraging that kind of behavior.
	And once again, when you abandon any sort of standards of behavior in a city like San Francisco, this is what's going to happen.
	Because if you don't set a standard, everybody's going to do the absolute minimum.
	And if you're in a situation where, for instance, you can be encouraged to come to a city because of welfare and such, where they're just going to actively help you to be a drug addict, that's what you're going to do.
	That's absolutely what you are going to do.
	And just to carry on, I'll skip through a little bit of what I've got here.
	So, San Francisco saw 92 drug deaths in 2015.
	There were 700 in 2020.
	By way of comparison, that year, 261 San Franciscans died of COVID. So, I mean, shows the priorities, doesn't it?
	These are the parables of a sort of progressive libertarian nihilism.
	The left libertarian types.
	The bad libertarian types.
	Yeah.
	Of the belief that any intervention has to be imposed on a vulnerable person is so fundamentally flawed and problematic that the best thing to do is nothing at all.
	Anyone offended by the sight of the suffering is just judging someone who's having a mental health episode and any liberal who judges that the state can and should take control of anyone who is in the throes of drugs and psychosis is basically a Republican.
	If and when the vulnerable person dies, that was his choice.
	And in San Francisco we congratulate ourselves on being very accepting of that choice.
	There's a lot more to this article, and it is actually quite well written and well researched, so I'd recommend you check it out.
	But to go back to Schellenberger, we can go over to his substack where he actually spoke to a homeless insider for more information on this, and I assume he did this while he's researching his book.
	And I'll just read through a little bit of this as well, because it's very insightful to tell you.
	And I would say that this sort of stuff is not just...
	It's specific to San Francisco.
	This will be the same sort of things that are being encouraged in California, probably in Seattle, in Portland.
	Yeah, I saw a video over the weekend of someone going down a street in Philadelphia and it looked like Sodom and Gomorrah.
	It was just people draped over stuff everywhere.
	It was unbelievable.
	It was terrible.
	It looked like taxi driver on acid, pretty much, when he's driving through the streets and all the generacy, but it was amped up to 11.
	You can understand how someone could develop real nihilistic tendencies having to experience that sort of thing all day.
	So it's no wonder that so many of the progressives just abandon hope when they see, whether they accept it or not, the consequences of their terrible ideas and their terrible policies and their terrible ideology, as far as I'm concerned.
	So I'll just read through a little bit of this.
	So the main progressive approach for addressing homelessness, not just in San Francisco, but in progressive cities around the nation, is housing first, which is the notion that taxpayers should give, no questions asked, apartment units to anyone who says they are homeless and asks for one.
	What actually works to reduce the addiction that forces many people onto the streets is making housing contingents on abstinence.
	But Housing First advocates oppose contingency management, as it's called, because they say housing is a right and should not be conditioned upon behaviour change.
	Now, housing is not a right.
	Housing relies on the labour of others to maintain and build the property in the first place.
	So if you have to rely on somebody else, it's not a right, it's an entitlement.
	As far as I'm concerned, rights are something that you're born with, and most people aren't born with a property portfolio.
	Well...
	Most people.
	I wish.
	I certainly wish.
	My parents need to pull their fingers out.
	Perhaps the Hiltons, but if you're lucky enough to be a Hilton, hit me up.
	Because there's no way I'm affording property any time soon.
	One of the claims made by the defenders of the open drug scenes is that people who live in them are mostly locals who are priced out of their homes and apartments and decided to pitch a tent on the street.
	In San Francisco, his book, I cite a significant body of evidence to show that this is false, and that many people come to San Francisco from around the US for the city's unusually high cash welfare benefits, free housing, and tolerance of open drug scenes.
	What a surprise that the welfare state, as ever, is the root of all evils in the world.
	Abolish it.
	Abolish it, America.
	That's all you need to do.
	Just get rid of welfare, and lots of problems will be solved immediately.
	Whatever you say about Ayn Rand, when she was saying in the 1950s that welfare would be the death of America...
	She was absolutely right.
	The founding fathers would be spinning in their graves to see something like a welfare passed in America.
	I'll just carry on.
	So, what San Francisco and other progressive cities are doing isn't working.
	People in these encampments, according to the insider, have food brought to them, porta-potties brought to them, and all they need to do is put drugs in their arm all day.
	They get really sick and they die.
	Portugal didn't make it so you do whatever they want.
	The consequences of your action there are treatment-driven, but there are consequences.
	Here, there are no consequences, and so we make it worse.
	The main reason that homelessness is so much worse in progressive West Coast cities is because progressives hotly oppose efforts by cities to close the open drug scenes and move addicts into shelters and rehabs.
	And these progressives, of course, are the same people occupying official places within the local government.
	But aren't they the same progressives that are just...
	Whenever there is a crime, they're just like, no, to the prison industrial complex, we want rehabilitation.
	But when it comes to drug addiction, which is...
	A prison of its own.
	To sound poetic about it.
	Well, of course it is.
	It's all that they can think about being addicted.
	It's probably worse than being in prison, I would imagine.
	And yeah, they're not giving them the same standards because they're a useful political tool.
	It's a similar thing with Black Lives Matter and actual black people dying of gang violence.
	They don't care about that.
	It doesn't achieve their political aims.
	It is terrible and it shows me, once again, that the Austrians are right, that self-interest is what drives everybody.
	It's just that for a lot of people, for the progressives, I would say the self-interest of confirming their own prejudices and biases, that being that I am a good person, I am on the right side of history, yada, yada, yada, is what drives people.
	And not all self-interest is the same, sadly.
	By blocking the closing of open drug scenes, which is referred to as clearing an encampment, people in need of help don't get it.
	The San Francisco Coalition on Homelessness recently, in July 2021, protested an encampment clearing where a woman was pregnant, the insider told me.
	As soon as everybody left, the woman went into a shelter after having been on the streets for three months.
	She went indoors.
	It's like, what are you fighting for?
	The right of this person to stay on private property and be pregnant?
	Because obviously being indoors in a shelter is probably much safer for a woman who is pregnant than being out on the streets.
	And I'll just finish off here by just quoting this last bit, where the most influential homeless advocate in San Francisco, and perhaps the United States as a whole, is the head of the San Francisco Coalition on Homelessness, Jennifer Freidenbach.
	Over the last three decades, Freidenbach has taken control over San Francisco's homelessness budget, which is in the multiple millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, I'd imagine.
	And other policies.
	She blocks the closure of open drug scenes, calls people to who disagree with her fascists and racists, and organises protests at the home of politicians.
	So, pretty typical leftist tactics, sadly.
	But, unlike other leftist tactics, which you could even say maybe they think...
	So, in the gubernatorial races coming up in November, California, just remember that these are the problems of your state.
	Many of you are probably already aware of this who are watching, but if you are in the cities, if you have already If you've always voted progressive before, please consider voting for somebody else because this will not just help you, this will help the actual most vulnerable people in your cities actually get some help.
	So, keep that in mind.
	So, before we go into the video comments, I'm just going to make the announcement again that Carl has a premium hangout this afternoon titled Mega City One is Not an Aspirational Future, so don't forget to check that out if you've got the time.
	The Mandelbrough art that satisfies lacks scale, in the sense that it contains elements at all sizes.
	Against the Seagram building he offers the architecture of the Beaux arts, with its sculptures and gargoyles, its coins and jamstones, its cartouches decorated with scrollwork, its cornices topped with chenot and lined with dentals, It has no scale because it has every scale.
	An observer seeing the Paris Opera from any distance finds some detail that draws the eye.
	The composition changes as one approaches and new elements of the structure come into play.
	That's just a gorgeous building, isn't it?
	Yeah, that was a really insightful comment.
	I do find that these buildings are really nice for a short while, but it's almost like a sickly piece of cake.
	If you look at it for too long, there's almost too much.
	It is almost overwhelming to look at something, just because, like Alex pointed out, there's so much detail in it, but...
	I just don't get tired of it.
	I think it's different when you're actually there and you can view it from different angles in person.
	When you're looking at a picture of something, perhaps you get a little bit perceptual, blind to the complexity of it.
	Whereas in person, I would see something like that and stand there for several minutes just appreciating it, which is what I've done many times actually.
	A funny story from the rotten state of Denmark.
	In 2017, an Islamic imam got really mad at Denmark for making fun of the prophet Mohammed.
	He pointed to a really old law in the Danish law system saying you cannot be blasphemic.
	The Danish politicians then looked at that law and said, "That is correct, that is a real law." And then they abolished it with the explicit reasoning that if God is real, then he doesn't need us to protect him.
	He can protect himself.
	So I'm one of the few people in the world who can legally make fun of Mohammed.
	That's a good fact, actually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	To be fair, the reasoning is kind of logical.
	If God exists, I mean, he could probably fend for himself.
	But at the same time...
	Just imagine God up there.
	Just like, oh no, my feelings.
	That depiction's so uncharitable.
	It rained for a week after they abolished that law because he was just so upset.
	I'm pretty sure vanity isn't that pretty sinful.
	And it's just the repealing of the obvious traditional Danish values right there, which is always a terrible shame to see.
	Well, if they return to traditional values, we're going to see rapists and murderers on our shores again, so don't go too far back.
	I mean, that's no different than what we've got right now, so, you know.
	You know, it's true, actually.
	This is a documentary that provided a lot of the footage of the Zanzibar Muslim massacres, which they had to take off on a plane to get illegal aerial footage of.
	You can see people taking pot shots at them to stop them.
	They killed all the arrows because they were descendants of slave traders.
	Interesting parallel.
	Special shout out to the mass slaughter of the wildlife reserves, although to be fair, white poachers were working in concert with the African mobs, so it's not quite a racial thing as you might think.
	That's really interesting.
	That is very interesting, and everybody seems to care about the wildlife in Africa, except for Africans.
	Well, to be fair, quite a few of the African people who live around there do help conserve it.
	Oh, that's alright then.
	The people who work for the nature preserves, or whatever they're called.
	Hmm.
	Good evening and welcome back to my video comments.
	Now the left wants to flood the country with millions of illegal immigrants.
	They want to expose your children to drag queens, and they want to take your guns.
	Now why does Joe Biden want this?
	Well, of course, Joe Biden doesn't understand anything.
	He'll probably say it has something to do with WHITE SUPREMACY! He has no idea what he's saying, but the people behind him understand why they're doing what they're doing.
	And if you call them out, they'll call you a bigot.
	Yeah.
	Well, as long as you aren't sensitive to being called names, it's pretty weak punishment.
	Although, seeing what we saw- I just accept the names.
	That's what I say at this point.
	If they go, oh, I'm a racist, fine.
	Whatever.
	When the Washington Post writes an article about you, though, that's when you need to be worried.
	Yeah, when Bezos is up against you.
	I do agree with the whole idea of opting into certain things and paying taxes on those, but unfortunately, I do think there is base taxes that need to be collected for the general population because I don't trust people to actually be honorable because, you know, your taxes do pay for the roads and for schools and police and safety, etc.
	All that stuff that is necessary.
	Even if you don't drive, you do benefit from the road because you have access to everything else, such as, you know, the food being shipped to different locations, etc.
	It's necessary to have a society work together.
	Pfft.
	Fair points, but once again, I don't think necessarily that the government is the best at administering those sorts of services, like roads, police, schools, and I think that the fact that they have to take those basically from you at the end of the barrel of a gun is what makes it immoral in the first place.
	That's what makes taxation theft.
	Many people would be happy to opt into those services just because, yes, police and other such things are necessary.
	It's the fact that you don't get the option to in the first place.
	Yeah, I think that one thing that definitely should be, you know, raised with taxes is the military, because militaries work better on, you know, large scale, don't they?
	That's obvious.
	So if you had, like, your local militia isn't going to be able to, you know, do the same thing as, say, a national military...
	Vietnam says what?
	Vietnam says what?
	You agree with me though, so...
	I'm reading some stuff at the moment, I'm just needing to look into some stuff, but America could throw all the might of their military at Vietnam and they still got pushed back by a bunch of militias, so...
	It's because Britain wasn't helping them, that's why.
	That's probably why it was, yes.
	That's my get-out-of-jail-for-free-kill.
	It's the jolly old Brits, America can't do anything without us.
	Progressives are like children.
	When a child lashes out, you discipline it without trying to reason with it, because by its very nature it is an irrational creature.
	Do not feed its delusions, or argue on its terms, for it will drag you down to its level and beat you with experience.
	Argue from a position that cannot be denied, no matter how many well-intentioned lies can be thrown at it.
	Nymekworks.com We've got the future Tony Stark in our audience.
	That's reassuring.
	Whoever in need will know who to call.
	That's good to know.
	You can throw a little bit of funding our way.
	A little bit more if you want, you know.
	Get a bunch of alt accounts.
	Then in 1955, they built Ancora Psychiatric Hospital.
	This was a sprawling campus, 650 acres, to house 2,500 patients, 400 staff.
	It had its own laundry, sanitation, power plant, police station, fire station, and the staff actually lived on campus in subsidized housing.
	Now the patient roster is about 450, but they're some of the most extreme mental cases in the state.
	Imagine having to live.
	Just like, saying to someone, yeah, where do you live?
	Oh, I live in the mental asylum.
	Oh, I'm not a patient.
	I'm just a member of staff, or so I say.
	No, that's very interesting.
	I mean, it's always amazing how you can get these massive sort of industrial size things in America, because we don't really have an equivalent here.
	We always keep things smaller scale.
	Obviously, smaller country, less population.
	But even so, America always has to do things bigger, doesn't it?
	I mean, that's kind of their thing at this point, isn't it?
	If America had, like, a national motto, like, on the flag somewhere...
	Bigger is always better.
	On the biggest flag imaginable.
	But above that would be an even bigger pride flag now.
	so so it says otherwise i'd really like to interview uh john to interview marit zonica um about food additives i listed the other week She's a Norwegian and have researched this quite a bit, and I think she's done some interviews in English before.
	So we'll pass that on to John.
	Very interesting.
	And for those who weren't watching, the video was just pointing out some, what was it, safety measures, and it was pointing out that there was something related to Wuhan.
	I didn't really catch it, to be honest.
	It was COVID-related stuff, and it came from Wuhan, I think.
	Ah, fair play.
	AK-47s for everyone!
	I love the crown!
	And AK-47s for everyone certainly would even everything out nicely.
	So, we got the sash in the back.
	Oh no!
	We've also got the coke in the back.
	We're going on a trip.
	What's up?
	Yes, yes!
	Yes, you're very cute.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Very well behaved on a lead.
	What?
	That's very sweet.
	Yeah, that's very wholesome.
	I'm very jealous of your pets.
	After all the blackpilling, thank you for that one.
	That's restored me to emotional balance once more.
	There you go.
	I've seen loads of cats on leashes recently.
	It seems to be becoming more of a popular thing seeing as people are realising that just having your cats roam about the place can be a bit damaging to the local environment and also just dangerous for your cats in the first place.
	Most of the ones I've seen are very, very well behaved.
	I've even seen some...
	Absolute madmen who've managed to train their cats to not need a lead and will just follow them when they're walking.
	The first time you see a man taking a cat for a walk is a very strange experience, I'll say that.
	Well, you need to see Salvador Dali interviews where he brings in his aardvark on a lead.
	Oh really?
	I've not seen those ones.
	That sounds great.
	Hey, Yusei, could you settle a bet?
	What bet?
	Is it gay to like the movie Top Gun?
	It's totally not!
	Shut up, Jack.
	Let Yusei decide.
	Okay!
	Well, obviously it's not.
	Say!
	How could a movie where the male protagonists call each other cute nicknames and play volleyball and ride their phallic vehicles at extremely high speeds be anything but straight?
	I don't know.
	Still seems kind of gay to me.
	Psyball!
	Psyball!
	That's the problem with all the abridged series, if you've seen any of them back in the day.
	They used to be pretty edgy, now all the people who make them, they kind of got put into the voice acting boxes in Texas, in the more progressive cities like Austin in Texas, and they all went woke.
	Fall of Texas to becoming another progressive second.
	California is a real shame.
	Well, I think that's mainly Austin and Dallas and maybe one or two other cities.
	Most of the rest of the state is still firmly deep red, as far as I'm aware.
	In my mind, I know it's ridiculous, but I just imagined a bunch of people in cowboy hats and revolvers on the hip, just at the border of Texas, just like...
	You got blue hair?
	Can't come in.
	Sorry.
	Like in New Vegas, where you've just got the wall of deathclaws blocking your progress at one point.
	I think they should do that.
	Bring back the militias.
	So, I'm going to gloat about how I totally called something.
	I would rather not have been right about this, but as soon as Republican lawmakers backlashed against taking children to drag shows...
	I said somewhere, I think on Reddit, I was like, oh god, the freaking satanic temple is going to get involved in this and declare drag shows for children a sacred ritual or something.
	Lo and behold, a few days later, they're advertising drag events for kids.
	So drag is a satanic ritual confirmed.
	Good to know!
	I went to the stock car races with my little brothers on the 11th.
	This is footage from the zero effort class where you take a small car and you rip a bunch of stuff out of it but you aren't required to put in a roll cage or any of the extra safety stuff and so you get to have more cars and a lot of fun and one of the guys put his car into the wall pretty hard and snapped one of his front axles and he did three laps around the track in spite of that.
	It was hilarious.
	One thing I always want to do when I go to America is see some NASCAR. It's on my to-do list.
	If I ever go on a road trip across America, NASCAR is definitely to-do.
	Office road trip around America?
	Yes!
	I mean, to be fair, I think they have lifted the COVID restrictions and requirements right now, so we'll be able to go again!
	Yeah!
	All we need to do to afford the cost of gas is sell your liver.
	Well, that's alright then.
	Well, if anybody would like to help us raise funds for a trip to America, please let us know in the comments below.
	Let's go on to the written comments here.
	My segment, which John has lovingly titled Rainbow Demons, Chris Howells, pride in what?
	They're literally turning themselves into laughingstocks.
	This really needs to be shut down as it's a scourge to normality and dangerous to children and impressionable young minds, let alone the division the smallest percentage is spreading amongst the majorities.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't get why it's still called pride anymore because it's just, it's not really pride in, yes, we managed to overturn illiberal laws that were making it illegal for us to just be our own sexuality.
	It's more just rubbing it in everybody's faces that we're as degenerate as possible.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Vicky says that it was her who said rainbow demon, so thank you for that.
	Snowdog said, worth my last five pounds to say woodchippers at the ready, as always.
	Drew Doomhand, the only reason paedophilia should be taught in schools is so kids are taught how to safely operate woodchippers.
	They'll learn about personal protective equipment, and they'll learn about how to mulch their gardens afterwards.
	Hmm.
	Nice.
	I like how all-encompassing that is.
	No, I think kids should be taught the old-fashioned values of don't talk to strangers, don't accept gifts from strangers, and nowadays, if you see a stranger who is obviously a man in a dress wearing way too much makeup, steer well clear.
	I mean, one of the saving graces is, it used to be, like, maybe it's that weird guy across the road.
	In a trench coat, yeah.
	Now they're so flamboyant.
	They're advertising themselves with bright colours.
	I know, it's like there's poison dart frogs, isn't it?
	That's a good analogy, actually.
	The brighter the colour, the more dangerous.
	Kevin Fox says, Josh, have we run out of children's entertainers?
	Hmm, well, to be fair, at least with these drag queens, we can see the weirdos clearly, just making your point here, rather than having them look like, say, Jimmy Savile.
	Jimmy Savile, in retrospect, looked weird.
	Rolf Harris, still, they were our children's slash family entertainers in the 70s, and where are they now?
	So yes, Josh, we have run out slash jailed our children's performers.
	And Alpha of the Betas says, Fair play.
	I mean, once again, I'm not saying that all drag queens are involved in this sort of thing.
	There are plenty who still recognise boundaries.
	It's that plenty seem to be trying to expand those boundaries for some pretty nasty ulterior motives, wouldn't you say?
	I mean, it's fine if it's among adults that are consenting, but children...
	Can't consent, and it's not helpful for them to have these sorts of things in front of them.
	In World War II, didn't you have for people to blow off some steam, basically the soldiers engaging in drag shows, just for a bit of a laugh, or is that just something I've seen in movies?
	I think it might be more of a movie thing.
	Nah, fair play.
	Maybe American soldiers.
	Maybe that was just Grandpa Simpson, you know?
	LAUGHTER It is in The Simpsons, isn't it?
	It is in The Simpsons, yeah.
	I think he seduces a Nazi officer.
	I don't think it's meant to be someone in drag, it's meant to be a woman, but the joke is that it's Grandpa Simpson in drag.
	Oh, Simpsons used to be so funny.
	Do you want to go through your written comments?
	Sure.
	So, Baron Von Warhawk says, What got me most about this Washington Post business is that they aren't angry at libs of TikTok for simply doing investigative journalism.
	They're attacking her because she's doing their jobs and showing the public how insane they are.
	What they hate most about her is that she doesn't even have to work very hard as they post their evil plans online, then are shocked when the public sees them for the loonies that they are.
	Very true, yeah.
	It's like if Dr.
	DrEvil posted a webpage and was surprised.
	Zenchan, the way the left reacts to libs of TikTok is fascinating because they use their social media accounts to control people's minds and tell people what to think.
	They project that onto the right-wing centrist social media accounts that are just there to inform people.
	I mean, you do get some right-wingers that are trying to project things onto other people, but it's a bit more open and honest about the intentions at the very least.
	Yeah, and the problem that I see is that you get some of the weird neocon rights, like National Review, defending this sort of behaviour as well.
	It's like, guys, we don't want to become bullies, guys.
	Come on, we don't want to push back too hard.
	It's like, well, they're coming for our children, so what are you going to do?
	Well, they just don't want to...
	They're happy to concede on culture as long as they win on economy, aren't they?
	Barely.
	It's not like they're winning on the economy either, is it?
	It's almost like ceding ground continually to the left.
	Winning to a neocon, though, is like being able to have everyone in bed together so you can harvest as much tax money off of people as possible.
	I'd say winning to a neocon is still being invited to fancy dinners.
	That too.
	So, uh, Razek was right.
	The media.
	The Proud Boys violently harassed the dragged Queen Story Hour attendees.
	Me.
	The outrage is understandable, but this is counterproductive.
	This just gives the pedos free publicity as victims.
	Media.
	In the same breath.
	They flashed the white power OK sign.
	I think this is probably a comment for you, but, um, me.
	Oh, never mind.
	They're lying.
	I can't trust anyone about this article now.
	Those may not have been Proud Boys.
	When the media outlets use snippets like that, it discredits their entire coverage of the story, if not their outlet as a whole, and they need to be called out on it.
	Well, you need my Contemplations episode talking about why the media is terrible, because we talk about the techniques they use to try and smear political movements.
	But yes, I very much agree it is frustrating, and they do need to be called out on it.
	Yeah, I mean, honestly, I was just shocked that an article in the current year was still using the OK hand symbol as a gesture of white power.
	I thought everybody had cleared this up that it was a 4chan prank by now, but people are still rolling with it, man.
	It's insane.
	It's like, yes, I am now...
	Now terrible, unforgivable, because I did a hand gesture.
	I am now Grand Wizard, Destroyer of Worlds.
	What if I do two?
	Oh my god.
	Oh my goodness, you almost look like the love guru.
	I just look like I'm meditating.
	I'm not actually sat on a seat, I'm just levitating up to the desk.
	Yeah, you can't see it, but it's true.
	Should I go through some of my comments on here?
	Yeah, so FreeWorld2112 says, Yeah,
	and it's not like these people are even particularly good with guns for the most part, despite the fact that's the thing that you're supposed to protect your rights with in America, so they're gonna be useless.
	Daniel Socoras says, if you care about someone, you won't let them destroy themselves.
	Don't give a drunk a drink.
	The left thinks that caring is letting people do whatever they want, even if it's self-destructive behaviour.
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Shaker Silver says, if you actually look at the rural areas of California, it's fairly conservative.
	I've heard this as well and been told by people from those areas that yes, it is very conservative there.
	The problem every state or country is every state or county held captive by the progressive ideology is the globalization of business and cities.
	These urban areas grow more distant to the rest of the state, filled with transient businessmen and artists with no ties to the particularities of the location they temporarily settle in.
	And the politicians cater to them due to their outside power and influence.
	Influence would, of course, include lobbying, making massive donations to these people for favours, creating an even bigger divide between urban and rural populations.
	This is very true.
	The cities, especially those big progressive cities, are dens of scum and villainy, as far as I'm concerned.
	Alright, Obi-Wan over there.
	Yeah, well...
	Should we go to some general comments?
	Yeah, yeah, let's go.
	So Spartan Lycurgus says, if I fly to Calais, row a dinghy across the channel in hopes of finding a job in Swindon, will you guys hire me?
	It'd help my case if I said as a refugee of Joe Biden's America.
	I mean, if you do all of that, you probably won't need a job because our government will house you.
	Yeah, you've got a nice hotel room waiting for you, mate, so don't worry about it.
	Yeah, you'll be perfectly fine.
	You'll probably have better living standards than we do.
	Free Will 2112, your art contemplation series was thought-provoking.
	Thank you.
	And whilst I agree that a lot of conceptual art is not very good, the idea that only photorealistic painting has any value is nonsense.
	That would be like saying the only music that is actually music was the music composed before the 20th century.
	And I actually agree with that.
	And although Bo is a lot harder on it than I am, of course...
	As you, I'm sure, are aware, I enjoyed some of the expressionist and impressionist depictions of stuff, some of the surrealist stuff, and I even enjoyed some of the conceptual art.
	I find some of that stuff more emotionally compelling than, like, just photorealistic painting.
	But no, there is a lot of stuff that is just contrived because of the dawn of photography, and I did agree with that point.
	However, I am more into the more abstract, weird stuff.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm into weird music and weird films and stuff, so I'm definitely more into abstract stuff for a lot of the time as well.
	But anyway, I think we're out of time.
	Well, let me just finish with this one.
	Jonathan Crowe.
	Josh.
	Blackpilling people is my favourite pastime.
	Me.
	Thanks, Josh.
	Very cool.
	Thanks, Jonathan.
	Anyway, thank you very much for watching, and make sure to check us out 1pm tomorrow.

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