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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #136

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 20th of May 2021.
	I I'm joined by Carl, and today we're going to be talking about the Chad Spanish Border Control Guards, who are...
	No, I'm not going to ruin it.
	How dating apps are ruining dating.
	For both men and women.
	So feminist.
	Yeah.
	And also, today in progress.
	So basically, I just found a whole bunch of stuff that I thought was ridiculous.
	I put it together because I thought it'd be nice to have a laugh.
	Yeah.
	So, before we start, I just want to talk about the premium content we have on Lotuses.com.
	There's a whole bunch of stuff here we mentioned yesterday.
	We mentioned it again.
	The Ghost Ship of Theseus being the newest piece there.
	So this is the age-old question about whether or not a ship that traveled around the world has its planks changed?
	Has everything changed?
	Is it still the same ship?
	Yep.
	And some advancements on those arguments.
	Yeah.
	I think I've got a way of looking at it that's good, but I won't spoil it.
	But the stuff that I'm most pleased with is the Epoch stuff, which is the history content that we're doing now with Bodade.
	We recently recorded another one, which should be up on Sunday, which is about the political machinations of Alcibiades and what the impact of these were on the Peloponnesian War.
	I know that sounds kind of niche, but trust me, this is going to be brilliant.
	You're going to really enjoy it, because it's like as if Milo Yiannopoulos was given absolute political power over the state, and what he would do.
	And that's the sort of thing, in a time of war as well.
	And that's what it's like.
	And honestly, it's just such good content.
	I can't...
	Anyway, let's carry on.
	So I'm imagining Milo in a general's uniform.
	It's going to be the campus thing you want to see.
	With a laurel wreath around.
	Anyway, we also just did an interview with Posey Parker, which will be up when we edit it, but just telling people what we're doing.
	And also, we're going to be recording the 1984 Book Club after this, hopefully.
	So that'll be up when we're done.
	So things to look forward to.
	Anyway, without further ado, the Chad Spanish border controls.
	So we've had problems in the UK, the Americans have had problems with their borders, and...
	The Spanish have had worse, let's say, more extreme versions to deal with.
	So if we can get this first thing up, this is just some footage here of the enclaves that Spain has in Morocco.
	So for people who don't know, Spain, like every imperial power, has little enclaves around the world.
	These ones are on the border with Morocco in Morocco, and therefore the people can just walk over from Morocco into here.
	So they built massive fences.
	So what happens now is loads and loads of guys gather together and all burst all at once.
	And then in the footage you should be able to see here is just a bunch of them running through the town.
	Totally normal.
	And you'll notice that they're all young men.
	Yeah.
	Go back to the tweet.
	It's on the tweet, sorry.
	I don't want to play the audio, I just want to see it in the background.
	The thing there being that it's ridiculous.
	Yeah, but I mean, look at them.
	They're young men, fit and healthy young men, who are just running around, doing whatever it is they want, and that looks like an invasion, especially if they're congregating at a fence in order to push the fence down and break in.
	I mean, that is what an invasion is.
	And these fences are huge and covered in multiple layers of barbed wire.
	It's really, you know, they built a wall there a long time ago and it's big, but still not able to stop when there's so many people.
	So if we can go to the first video, just so we can get the people running along here, just so we can play it in full.
	chanting as they run out of it.
	Women and children.
	Plenty of them.
	It's all young now.
	Yeah.
	Causing havoc.
	Not the rocket either.
	That's the thing to keep in mind.
	Some of them look like they might not be Moroccan, that's true.
	A lot of them look like they might not be Moroccan.
	Every interview that goes down there, and they all ask them, where are you from?
	Very few of them say Morocco.
	So for people who don't know, foreigners, so here's just a map from BBC News just to show you where these two settlements are.
	I'm going to get the names brutally wrong because I'm English, so Sueta and Melina.
	I don't speak foreign.
	So that's where they are.
	So then if you break into those territories, you're technically in European Union territory.
	So my legal understanding is once you've broken into that area, you have the right to claim asylum in the European Union, namely Spain.
	And that's a route into Europe that gets exploited by people who clearly have no right to be here.
	I mean, like the European Union has said themselves, 60% of the people who came in 2016 had no more right to be in Europe than anyone else.
	60%.
	Anyway, so if we go to the next link, this is just to demonstrate this problem's been going on for years.
	This is 2017 reporting here, and as you can see, those huge fences that they built.
	Just loads of people just climb over them, because if you all run at once, who's going to stop you?
	So, and the narrative on this has always been, as one would expect, that Spain bad, because Spain wants to protect their borders.
	I can't help but notice in that picture they don't look like Moroccans.
	Yeah, so this is Amnesty International here, complaining, and in here they say that, following confrontation by Spain's interior minister, the police fired rubber bullets in an attempt to stop migrants from entering the Spanish enclave of Sueta, which may have contributed to the deaths of 11 migrants by drowning.
	Firing rubber bullets to stop them breaking in.
	I think they're the ones who contributed to their death there.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you didn't have to break the law.
	You didn't have to try and jump over this massive fence and risk your life.
	Could have just not.
	Morocco's not a war.
	The drowned migrants were among some 250 sub-Saharan Africans who'd been attempting to reach Spanish soil.
	Well, why were they doing that?
	Sub-Saharan Africans.
	What were they doing there?
	How many countries did they go through?
	Well, there was no war.
	There was no reason to be like, I'm a poor refugee.
	No, you were just a chancer.
	Yeah, no, but more than that, they're adventurous.
	That's what they are.
	I'm certain that what these migrants are doing is they've heard that there's riches and free money to be had in Europe, and it's soft and easy life, and they're going on an adventure.
	What can we get out of this?
	Yeah, they're definitely being lied to.
	So the people who are lying to them have something to take on for themselves.
	So if you missed any of that as well, like you're mentioning, I mean, not Moroccan, Sub-Saharan African.
	So we've got the next one here.
	This is just some of the images that have come out from the area.
	So there's some guy posting here the helmets of the Border Force, and you can see that they're having rocks thrown at them to the point that the helmet is quite damaged there in the back.
	So people who are not being peaceful, I mean, they're breaking the law, they're attacking the police here.
	Wonderful chaps.
	Absolutely great, but they're coming in.
	Doctors, lawyers...
	Social scientists.
	Social scientists are definitely what we've kept out.
	Oh boy.
	And it's not just a one-off incident either.
	If we go to the next link, this is a Spanish website.
	I Google translate it because I don't goddamn know.
	It says that Sveta adds in 48 hours 400 incidences.
	So...
	um god dang it what did i put the thing there we go the single emergency telephone number 112 in setter has answered since monday morning and during at least 48 hours a total of 1716 calls and that has resulted in resolution of 416 incidences mostly motivated quote by fights illegal settlements inconvenience to pedestrians and attempts to rob and break into homes and premises
	thankfully i can't believe that a bunch of criminals who break into your country illegally also commit crimes in that country it's like they're Shocking.
	You started off the relationship as you're a criminal, we're breaking in.
	So suddenly the relationship carries on that way.
	I mean, big surprise.
	Thankfully, they say in here none with serious consequences, so nobody's been killed or anything yet.
	But, I mean, that's the level here.
	Also mentioning that there were about 8,000 people who broke in, but it says that about 5,600 were returned or voluntarily returned.
	But that's still like 3,000 people running around in this tiny area.
	But, I mean, 8,000 people is legitimately an army.
	That's a huge number of people.
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	And when you see them running it as well, it really does look like an invasion.
	So if we go to the next image as well, you can see pictures of the guys just hanging around.
	Because, I mean, there's loads of them.
	So just sit around, wait for the next chance to run over, I guess.
	What are you doing here?
	Like, you have absolutely no right.
	It's ridiculous.
	But I guess if Westerners lie to you and say that there's gold on the streets in Paris, go for it.
	Thank you, NGOs.
	So apparently the local...
	Sorry, the Prime Minister of Spain went down.
	He's from the Socialist Party.
	And the locals gave him a warm welcome.
	So if we go to the next link, they started shouting that he was a son of a W word.
	So you can see his car comes out here, and they're just screeching at him, and then they end up kicking his car.
	I don't know how you're able to get so close, but okay.
	Chad's Spaniards give them a piece of their mind.
	Good for them.
	Just like, screw this guy.
	Yeah, I mean, I can't see why they're upset.
	Let's put it that way.
	So if we go to the next one as well, the response has been to deploy the Spanish military to the border.
	Spain has a military?
	Yeah, apparently.
	But I love it, because it's the thing of essentially, right, okay, we built this massive wall, you know, we built a great big wall, it's got an entrance, you can come through legally, but no one wants to, everyone wants to come in illegally, because they have no respect for the law, and you spent all this money on guards and all the rest of it, and still, and still you have these problems.
	Right, fine then, we'll send in the military.
	And they have.
	So we go to the next clip just so we can play the clip of this so people can see the audio as well There's just rows and rows of guys just hanging around the beach Have they swum here?
	You can go around the corner.
	Just hold some dice.
	Very few women and children.
	No women and children!
	The correct number is zero.
	It's all 20 something men.
	All of them.
	I mean just unbelievable scenes.
	It's a literal invasion.
	Yeah, so in response, they're kicking them out, and this clip shows them kicking out, and you can see people being upset here.
	Images of Spanish soldiers beating migrants, refugees, and throwing them into the sea on the Moroccan border.
	Literally throwing them into the sea.
	Hashtag human rights.
	But there's, you can see the border right there.
	That's the fence.
	If you walk one metre over there, you can be on that side.
	So we can play the clip as well, just so we can go to the full screen.
	Bordeando les picons.
	No-ho, you chances.
	But you can see the military, guys, for people who are listening.
	They've got, like, them on the rocks by the sea, right?
	And they're just pushing them off and being like, get in the sea, sod off.
	And they're pulling out their clubs and being like, stay down, stay in the sea.
	So if they literally just walk around, they'll be back in Morocco.
	It's not like they're risking their lives like this guy's trying to make out here.
	Like, oh my god, they're pushing them into the sea.
	And then they can walk.
	through the shallow waters back to morocco it's just all the giga chad spaniards on the beach being like yes but there's a big question there because i mean we've had our huge problems with people coming over in boats who just refuse to follow the law whatsoever not interested well risking their lives to flee horrible france one of the problems that mainland spain has been having is that just boats of people are turning up on the beaches and then they just run into spain and Now they're just loose in the country.
	Who are these people?
	Dunno.
	Where did they come from?
	Dunno.
	What crimes have they committed?
	Dunno.
	What crimes are they going to commit?
	Who knows?
	And this is unacceptable.
	This can't be allowed to continue.
	No.
	And we've had just terrible policies of dealing with it.
	Like, nothing seems to have really been effectual.
	So the Spanish here bringing out the military and just saying, right, we'll just send the military in.
	Yeah, okay.
	I mean, if they're literally able to just beat them back and be like, right, sod off.
	If that's what's required, then that's what's required.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	I don't know what the objection is here.
	Because obviously the massive funding for the huge war they built there, the guards and all the rest of it, wasn't enough.
	So send in the army.
	The army, if that's not enough to put them off, I don't know what would be.
	So, I mean, you're literally, as you say, dealing with an invasion.
	Thousands of men coming in in one break.
	Thousands of men every other day doing this.
	It's not a one-off.
	It's constant.
	And I was trying to come up with, you know, the...
	See, before you go on, this is basically what I'm expecting Scottish independence to look like.
	What, them trying to come round the border?
	Yeah.
	We'll have rebuilt Hadrian's wall and we'll just have to throw them back into the sea.
	Just the English would be like, shut up!
	No, because it'll be the SNP supporters.
	It'll be the SNP activists.
	Once they've been purged from the party, they'll be like, let me in.
	No, you get what you deserve.
	But just like, from sea to shining sea, Spain will be free.
	Just like sending the military in to deal with it.
	But there is no argument about this.
	I saw how much of Lovie's complaining about, oh my god, how can they do this?
	It's like, oh no.
	Well, I'll show you how they do it.
	What they do is they take them to the edge of a cliff and get the batons out and whack.
	I mean, we can see the video.
	I don't know why he's saying how they can do this.
	Bing, bang, bosh.
	You're off.
	But yeah, I mean, like, there's nothing against this.
	A lot of people are arguing, like, oh my god, this is how horrible...
	From the left-wing perspective, of course, they're arguing how horrible borders exist.
	Well, yeah, but they would.
	I've seen some people who you might say are on the right being like, you know, how horrible they have to bring in the military.
	And it's like, is it?
	Is it though?
	If that's what's required, just do it.
	How horrible will it be for the young women and families of these Spanish cities to endure robberies and worse?
	That's your answer.
	Literally, it's a bunch of 20-something young men.
	Once they get in, we're starting fights with the locals and stealing stuff.
	Robbing stuff, yeah.
	And that's the beginning.
	That's how they begin their occupation of this city.
	Like, do you really want that to be the beginning of their relationship with Spain?
	Yeah, it's unreal.
	Or would you rather be like, no, go home?
	What these men are doing is totally indefensible.
	And I don't know why anyone would be on the other side of it.
	Well, I do know.
	Obviously, communists trying to subvert the countries they're trying to destroy, obviously.
	But you know what I mean.
	Hopefully we can destroy Spain.
	Yeah, hashtag human rights.
	Yeah, well, I mean, I'm not in disagreement, but like...
	But that's just my old-fashioned British...
	It's not a human right.
	You do not have a human right to someone else's country.
	It's that simple.
	Believe it or not, you don't have a human right to live in Spain.
	Could you imagine such a concept?
	You know, I can imagine the Swedish government doing that.
	They probably do.
	Everyone has a human right to come to Sweden.
	Oh god, of course they would.
	Yeah, and what do you think is going to happen?
	Well, we know what's going to happen, which is why they're not cracking down on immigration.
	But yeah, that's just a thing that happened.
	I wanted to talk about.
	I think it's hilarious.
	I don't know why people shouldn't just follow suit.
	But the last point here is just, I love that they've come to your conclusion here.
	You see the Sentinelese here?
	The Sentinelese solution to borders?
	Just bring out the arrows?
	Yeah, North Sentinelese border policy is none.
	As in, no immigrants.
	Re...
	But that's also the Spanish border policy now.
	I love the picture of the guy just yelling at his bendy legs on the beach, yelling at him.
	That's Spanish border policy and the border policy of the most xenophobic island nation in the world.
	So if anyone's listening, go and find that image and just redo it so they've got Spanish flags behind them and then guard the Seville helmets and whatnot.
	I want to see that.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, that's all I've got to say on that.
	I thought it was funny as heck.
	I don't know why other countries shouldn't follow suit, because what's the argument against it?
	Why would we do this?
	We might not have open borders.
	Oh well.
	Yeah, but the only argument against it is, I'm a communist and I would like to see your nation destroyed, and therefore I want to see as many people coming in as possible.
	I mean, there's a guy from Vox, Matthew Iglesias.
	He had a conversation with...
	Someone quite famous.
	And they were basically saying how they'd liked America, the United States, to have a billion people in it by, like, 2030.
	And it's like, what?
	And obviously they're looking at this from the position of, like, someone with a spreadsheet.
	Yeah, they're not going to prove the birth rates, are they?
	No, but they're looking at this from the perspective of someone with a spreadsheet going, well, look, India and China have a billion people, and they're rising to compete with them.
	We need a billion people.
	It's like, oh, God, give over.
	But anyway...
	So yeah, I wanted to talk about a feminist author called Nancy Jo Sales, who has come to the conclusion, after using dating apps, that dating apps are a disaster.
	Sorry, John, I've actually rearranged these.
	So it's actually, that's the last link, and...
	Yeah, but basically she's a best-selling New York Times feminist author and activist.
	She's written a bunch of books.
	She's in her 50s now, and so we get her perspective on what dating apps are like.
	And so she's done a lot of research for this very new book, and obviously she's written a bunch of articles in a bunch of all of the very progressive outlets on what dating with online apps is like.
	And she's interviewed lots of women, and wow, she's got some really interesting data and opinions on what online dating is about.
	Do you use the dating app, Callum?
	No.
	Why not?
	Why would I? Find a woman.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What did you say?
	You don't want a woman?
	No, find a woman.
	Not a whore.
	Bloody hell, Callum.
	I'm not a fan of Tinder.
	I don't like Tinder.
	Well, I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong.
	I'm just very surprised that you just categorize every woman on Tinder as a whore.
	Seems a bit harsh.
	Anyway, so she spoke to a lot of women, and we'll get into how she spoke to a lot of women, she says, between the ages of 25 and 60, and apparently, according to the feminist review of this, they felt no less objectified by many of the men on these platforms.
	They still were being asked to send nudes by guys, made little effort to get to know them, and they were still being asked if they wanted to just hook up, regardless of the danger of the coronavirus.
	Shock and surprise.
	men on the internet are gross.
	This type of casual misogyny is pervasive on dating sites, as is outright harassment.
	According to a 2020 study by Pew, 57% of female dating site users, aged 18 to 34, said that someone had sent them a sexually explicit message or unsolicited image.
	Six in 10 women under 35 said that someone had continued to contact them after they said they weren't interested, and 44% said that someone on a dating site had called them an offensive name.
	Obviously, it's the apps that are responsible for this, in her opinion.
	The dating apps aren't doing enough to protect women from the advances of men on the internet.
	Which dating app was she using again?
	Was she using Tinder, though?
	Presumably Tinder, actually.
	I think she's been using a bunch of them, actually.
	She prefers this.
	The guys on Tinder as well are going to be just as bad.
	That's the thing.
	It's a sex app.
	It's not a relationships app.
	What kind of people are using Tinder?
	Not the best.
	But anyway...
	So, people of colour also routinely experience vile form of harassment on dating sites.
	They see profiles riddled with racist statements in the form of preferences.
	Oh.
	Such as, no blacks, no Indians, no Asians, no Africans.
	Well don't worry, I've seen plenty of accounts that float around on Twitter and whatnot where it's just like, no white boys.
	That's true.
	A 2018 study by Cornell exposed the racist biases of the algorithms these dating sites employ, which enable users who harbour intimate biases, whether conscious or not, to continue to make intimate decisions informed by these biases.
	Arguably reinforcing racism in real life.
	Meanwhile, trans people continually report being banned from dating sites for no other reason that they're trans.
	I mean, I question that.
	Come on, who's going to tell her?
	But the point is, people are allowed to make choices and the dating sites are like, right, okay, well, people have preferences for certain kinds of other people that they'd like to date, and that's racist and also transphobic.
	So what are you going to do about it?
	Suck the penis, bigot.
	But just like...
	Because I think...
	I mean, I don't know, but I swear there was controversy about this a while back when some dating app did allow you to do racial preferences.
	Because they wanted to basically find your match faster, presumably.
	And then they got a massive backlash about this and then changed it back.
	But what does that do?
	Because if the person still is saying, I don't want this race or transsexual people, they're not suddenly, when they're swiping, going to swipe a different way.
	Well, I guess I'll just date the person who I'm not attracted to.
	Well, as you can imagine, what this does is lead to a lack of success for the dating apps, making them not really...
	And what was the result?
	Yeah, but it's probably not very successful, right?
	Yeah, right.
	So John was saying they've tried to socially engineer these before.
	But anyway, dating sites also have a big problem with sexual assault, which the companies do little or nothing to address.
	I would have thought that it's actually not the company's responsibility to deal with sexual assault.
	I would have said it's the police that should be dealing with that.
	But according to one 2019 survey by ProPublica and Columbia Journalism Investigations, Only one of the articles, one of the only articles to ever take this issue seriously, they found that more than a third of women were sexually assaulted by someone they had met through a dating app.
	A third.
	Yep.
	That's what I'm saying.
	The men on these sex apps, I'm not going to talk about, I'm sure there's respectful dating apps out there, but a sex app.
	Christian dating apps is what you're talking about.
	MeetMuslims.com.
	But the thing is, of these women who say, the third of the women who say they've been sexually assaulted, more than half of them claim to have been raped.
	And so what you're saying is one in six women using a dating app is raped by someone on the dating app.
	I mean, if that's true, and I don't know that it is, but let's just assume for the sake of argument that it is true, I mean, A, that's staggering, and B, shouldn't the authorities be contacted?
	Like, that seems like something that you'd go further...
	Like, Tinder should be doing something about all the times I'm being raped on that app.
	I think you should probably go to the police.
	But anyway, when women try to report these incidents, many dating apps in question often don't even respond.
	Why aren't you going to the authorities?
	They're not the police force.
	Yeah.
	What do you expect them to do?
	Send their officers around?
	We don't even have a prison.
	Tinder prison.
	You've gone to Tinder court, been found guilty, and now you're being sent to Tinder jail.
	But anyway, in the Me Too era, how are these companies still able to get away with this?
	Because the companies aren't doing it.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	You've got the self-selected group of people who obviously aren't very respectable.
	But anyway, this persistent refusal to broadly acknowledge the harm coming to women, people of color, and those in the LGBT community just seems really empty, doesn't it?
	It's just like all of the identity categories that we care about.
	The other ones, shut up.
	And others through these platforms could just be one reason why the dating app companies feel so little pressure to do anything substantive to protect their users.
	What are you talking about?
	Harm's coming to women and LGBT and people of colour, and therefore the dating app's like, pfft, don't care about them.
	Doesn't make any sense.
	They're the only people who are ever given any kind of consideration.
	But anyway, next one is she wrote another article in The Guardian this time.
	And to her credit, she doesn't simply just repeat every single talking point that she has.
	So she actually gives us, like, different aspects to the problem in these different articles.
	So I'm actually quite impressed with her professionalism here.
	But anyway, in this one, it's apps promise to revolutionise dating, but for women, they're mostly terrible.
	And in this article, she admits that for men, they're also mostly terrible.
	But like I said, we only care about the women.
	So let's face it, dating apps have been terrible for women, especially straight women like me, the most oppressed kind of woman, who have to deal with the straight men who use them, and that's why they're the most oppressed.
	I believe that online dating has made single women overall less happy, less likely to find a long-term partner, and more at risk of experiencing sexual violence.
	As in, by abandoning patriarchy and moving to this, you know, place of eternal extreme freedom, And, you know, just being the free bird that you are, it's actually made you less happy and more at risk.
	Bring back patriarchy.
	I mean, it's kind of the old adage of feminism wants women to be men.
	Yes.
	And now that they're becoming like men, they're not happy with it.
	I wonder if there's any kind of biological difference between men and women that informs this distinction.
	Who could have seen this?
	Who could have predicted this?
	Yeah, all of this has only gotten worse since the pandemic, blah blah blah blah.
	This isn't to say that there haven't always been more risks for women when it comes to dating, of course there have, which I think is actually fair.
	You know, if a woman going on a date with a man, he's less likely to be worried about something bad happening in that date.
	Fair, you know.
	But dating apps have led to the normalization of abuses, which would have been considered appalling in other, supposedly less progressive eras.
	Unsolicited dick pics, harassing messages, non-consensual sharing of nudes are all now Routine features dating, excuse me, for women across all demographics.
	Some would chalk that up to the new dating culture.
	These things are actually crimes against women that have been told to laugh off lest they look like they're not for the cool girls.
	So what she's saying is basically, has progress been bad for women?
	One feminist says yes.
	But again, I've got to wonder, because it's like, what app are you using?
	And it's going to be Tinder, and it's going to be that, and that's not a respectable dating site.
	I think she's been using a bunch of different apps, actually.
	But still, I find it tough, because I remember this story, I don't know if you remember it, where there's an app you can download where if you're nearby someone, they can send you pictures, and she went on the underground in London a bunch.
	And of course, a bunch of creepy men just kept sending her pictures of their genitals.
	Yeah, obviously.
	And then she was complaining that it was TFL's fault, and Transport for London needed to deal with this.
	What are they supposed to do?
	They were just like, delete the app.
	And then she was like, you're victim blaming me.
	It's sort of like, what are you hanging around with here?
	Because, I mean, you don't have to be on these apps.
	You're not forced to.
	You could find someone outside of the internet.
	Yeah, but the important thing here is she's like, dating apps have led to the normalization of abuses that would have been considered appalling in other supposedly less progressive eras.
	And that's very interesting because what she's appealing to there is tradition and propriety.
	It would be improper for you to do this.
	Why would it be improper?
	Well, because it'd be far less progressive.
	In the progressive era, it's...
	Normal.
	It's just what women are.
	And as she said, if you object to this, if you don't laugh it off, you're not one of the cool girls.
	It's like, okay, well then you don't want to be one of the cool girls, do you?
	You want to go back to tradition.
	Men should traditionally have some more respect for women.
	Feminist return to tradition.
	Yeah, that's where she's arrived at.
	After using all these online dating apps, she's like, yeah, we actually need tradition.
	Men need to be able to respect women as women.
	Sorry, I don't know what to tell you.
	It's just I'm sick of all this gross stuff and all of the abuse.
	What are we on, like third wave feminism?
	Is this like fourth wave now?
	No, no, no, we're on fourth wave.
	So this is fifth wave.
	I want to see the fifth wave, like posting the white picket fence, you know, family wholesome memes.
	Wearing the shawl, completely covered, fifth wave feminism, return to tradition.
	And in fact, if we wanted to subvert feminism, that's what we'd do.
	Anyway, then there's big datings, faulty promises of long-term relationships.
	Because of course, none of this ends up with people getting married.
	If you can believe that.
	Their marketing teams would have us believe that everyone who swipes is about to walk off into the sunset with a soulmate.
	No matter how many dating app weddings we see touted in the Vowels section of the media, the available data does not suggest a rise in committed relationships or marriage among dating app users.
	According to a 2020 study by Pew, only 39% of regular online daters and 12% Americans overall have been married or are in a committed relationship with someone they first met through a dating site.
	So if you are just a regular American, only 12% of them have become married through the dating site.
	But even if we just take the section that is just people who use dating sites, not even 40% of them end up getting married.
	So this is not a good strategy in order to find a long-term partner.
	Return to tradition.
	Fifth wave feminism.
	That's what she's saying.
	What am I supposed to take from this?
	WTF? I love feminism now.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Thank you, dating apps, for destroying progress.
	My time on dating apps has made me think about how these platforms aren't just bad for women, but men as well.
	See?
	This is a real afterthought in her perspective.
	It's like, well, men, they're the abusers.
	But it's also not good for them.
	With men being inculcated into the worst aspects of toxic masculinity under the guise of fun.
	There's the fun of rating women as hot or not.
	The fun of having so many options.
	We need men to have fewer options.
	I mean, I agree, but we also need women to have fewer options too, because look at how this is going.
	You tend to see women as disposable objects based.
	And then there's the fun of thinking that these apps guarantee you sex, an assumption which 2016 study by the UK's National Crime Agency says has factored into a startling rise in sexual assault perpetrated by male dating app users who are less likely to have a previous history of sexual violence.
	I don't think there's any question that dating apps are rape culture.
	Dating apps are rape culture.
	Fifth way feminism returns to tradition.
	The thing that's niggling me here is the term dating app continuously being used as if they're all the same.
	But if you're going on Tinder, the expectation is sex.
	So if you take some autistic moron who ends up becoming a sexual predator, they shouldn't be in this place.
	They shouldn't be using these apps.
	But the data she's presenting us isn't just from Tinder.
	Sure.
	But that is the majority, surely.
	I don't know.
	I actually haven't seen the data.
	I've just seen these articles.
	I haven't seen the data sets she's using.
	But the point is, and I like where we've come to here, you know, unlimited sexual freedom for women is rape culture.
	Well done, feminism.
	Return to tradition.
	That's what she's saying.
	I would argue that women should delete their dating apps en masse in some Lizistrata-like move of self-preservation.
	You don't know what Lizistrata is, do you?
	It's a play by Aristophanes where the women of Greece decide they're going to go on a sex strike.
	Okay, how's it going?
	Catastrophically.
	I imagine it's Greece, so the men just all did each other.
	Well, yeah, A, what are you really holding back there?
	But B, it upsets the natural order of the world.
	But anyway, we'll talk about that one time.
	I know many women have chucked these apps and now find themselves much happier for it, but I doubt most women or most people, regardless of gender, will follow suit.
	One of the most insidious aspects of dating apps is that they are designed to be addictive.
	So addictive that many people say they use them without ever intending to meet up with someone in person.
	I think this is one of the greatest dangers of online dating, that new dating technologies will eventually become more important to people than other human beings.
	And sadly, I think that's already starting to happen.
	So yeah, save yourselves, women.
	Get back in the kitchen.
	I'm a feminist.
	Seriously, I bet there are more women who find husbands by baking apple pies.
	I mean, who would you rather date?
	Who would you rather marry?
	Exactly.
	I don't want to marry someone who's been on Tinder.
	No, I mean, would you rather...
	Probably one step below OnlyFans.
	Where would you expect to meet your wife to be?
	Yeah, not on Tinder.
	Not on a dating app.
	That's the point.
	And she has come to the patriarchy's point of view.
	And so we move on to her third one, which is her admitting that actually I know that these become addictive because I became addicted to them.
	Do you want to hear about how she became addicted to it?
	Sure, but it's sort of antithetical to the whole point, isn't it?
	Again, with the dating apps.
	Like, the whole point of them is surely to meet someone and settle down and delete the app, because what do you need that for?
	But the sex apps, well, they're not made for that.
	They're made for you getting someone and then coming back tomorrow.
	Anyway, so she informs us that she is, in fact, a slightly older lady.
	She's in her 50s.
	Excuse me.
	And she begins by explaining how she's going through the menopause and she had had her heart broken by a guy that she was dating.
	So she hasn't settled down.
	She's in her 50s.
	It's not looking great.
	But she says there was one thing that I wasn't expecting about dating apps when I first went on them.
	The interest of younger men.
	I wasn't matching with other 50-year-olds.
	I was matching with guys in their 20s and often early 20s.
	I would get messages with winky-faced emojis from guys named Justin, Zach, and Tyler, who were born in the years after I had already graduated college, been married, and divorced.
	In their profile pics, they were standing around campuses trying to look cool and nonchalant.
	They were holding up fish they'd caught.
	They were saying things to me like, what's a beautiful woman like you doing on a dating app?
	Do you think that line would fly?
	I wouldn't use that line.
	No, part of me is thinking of these bots.
	No, no, they're definitely not.
	They're definitely not there.
	It's worse.
	They're cringy young men.
	Oh, alright.
	You know who you are.
	Don't act like you're above it.
	Don't act like I don't know because I haven't been there.
	Anyway, she says, I knew that line.
	We're not here to varnish this and play to your feelings.
	I knew their lines were corny, and I knew I hadn't suddenly blossomed into Elizabeth Taylor, but it didn't matter.
	I started swiping more and more, and more, trying to get another dopamine hit from a match or a message from another guy named Jared or Brandon telling me how cute I was.
	I would tell myself, I'm just going to do this for 20 minutes, but then 20 minutes would become an hour, then two.
	And I started to ask myself with some concern, am I getting addicted to these things?
	She's addicted to the validation of young men.
	Change your mind on those dating apps yet, Callum?
	No.
	You could be validating some 50-year-old.
	John wants to jump on next time we do one of these.
	Do you ever validate old ladies, John?
	Basically, here's what happens.
	The young guys can't complete the old guys.
	Right, okay.
	So over the course of about three years, I went on dates with more than 50 guys.
	First as a form of distraction from my midlife crisis and then as research for my new book.
	I went on dates with hipster dudes and Wall Street bros, college students and guys struggling to pay the bills.
	I went on a date with a guy who rode a skateboard to come and pick me up.
	It had a horny devil emoji painted on it.
	So basically she's dating her son.
	I didn't stop...
	Come on, this isn't a date.
	You'll find out how not a date it becomes in a minute.
	In fact, I didn't stop to think too much about what in the world these guys saw in an older woman like me.
	I took a basic psychology course in college, of course, so I knew one possible reason, calling Dr.
	Freud.
	I had a moment of sheer panic when one of them took his t-shirt off and there was a tattoo on his arm that said Mama.
	I love it.
	I love everything about this.
	Shame Josh isn't here.
	Over time, it started to dawn on me that some of these guys...
	Is this her?
	Yeah, if we can scroll up a little bit.
	John?
	So this is the woman that's been writing all of this?
	Yeah.
	It's a pretty normal looking woman.
	Yeah.
	Pretty normal.
	Average looking.
	But anyway, over time it started to dawn on me that some of these guys were actually attracted to the wisdom and experience that an older woman can offer.
	I'd been so conditioned by society to think that getting old was bad, I couldn't see the regard they had for me as a woman who had accomplished some stuff.
	And when I did see it, it moved me and made me feel tender towards them.
	It's interesting how she finds a sort of human connection here, I think.
	You look really sceptical.
	No, it's just like, how late in life do you have to be to realise that?
	What?
	Well, that there's other values than how you look.
	About 50, I guess.
	It's just like, huh, they don't just hear me about how I look.
	They also care about the knowledge I have, the experience.
	It's like, yep.
	Who hasn't figured that out?
	It gets...
	John's like, she's delusional.
	No, no, no, no.
	Of course, this didn't excuse how they made me crazy when they didn't show up on time or didn't text back.
	Okay, mum.
	You can imagine them messaging her that.
	It gets better, right?
	It didn't make up for the ways that many young men today, and older men as well, use dating technologies as tools for disrespecting women through harassing messages.
	As if that's the main purpose.
	What are you doing today?
	Disrespecting women.
	That's right, I'm a feminist.
	Yeah, on patrol.
	This is like the PewDiePie, respect woman.
	It's like disrespect woman.
	Just to say we don't advocate for the disrespecting of women on this podcast.
	Notice he disrespects women.
	Yeah, we respect women.
	Sometimes people do much worse.
	John's typing furiously.
	Dating apps have a real problem with issues of sexual assault and unwelcome sexual advances.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We've been through that.
	Sometimes, I would call out guys for their bad behaviour.
	As an older woman, telling off a man who had offended me was suddenly so much easier for me to do.
	I was experiencing a growing sense of power, which I also didn't expect.
	Menopause has its drawbacks, but it also comes with great rewards.
	And one of those rewards is a sense of strength.
	Strength in knowing more than you ever did before.
	Strength in having survived.
	Strength in suddenly not caring anymore about what anyone says.
	I was doing something completely new at the time, making a documentary film called Swiped, and I didn't think I had the nerve, which I wouldn't have the nerve to have undertaken as my younger, less confident self.
	So it was empowering for her as an older lady to tell young men off in a matronly way.
	You ever seen The Crown?
	No.
	He's never done it right.
	There's a section in there in which I think it's Churchill lies to Her Majesty Elizabeth.
	And she has an advisor who's tutoring her because she never got a proper education.
	She's like, well, teach me the stuff I don't know.
	And she's asking him, what should I do with Churchill?
	He's lied to me.
	I can't just let him go about.
	And they're like, he's an upper-class English boy.
	Give him a telling off like mummy and embarrass him.
	He'll love it.
	Exactly what she's talking about here.
	Yeah, and it's exactly what the Queen did.
	She called in Churchill and just gave him a big old telling off.
	And he was like, yes, mum.
	Sorry, mum.
	We'll do it again, mum.
	But that's exactly what she's acting.
	But what this implies, again, what she has discovered is, in fact, that in traditional relationships between men and women, there is a sense of propriety that is still present in young men.
	So an older woman still has the authority to tell off a young man for being improper just by being late or having bad behavior or whatever.
	And these young men, of course, as church leaders are like, yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, sorry, ma'am.
	You know, it's a sort of intrinsic part of the relationship that they share.
	And I just find that really interesting.
	It's also a point made in there, which is that he'll love it.
	As in, like, he knows where the lines are and you need to enforce those lines.
	It makes him feel better as well, which is weird, but...
	Oh, no, that's true.
	But it is true.
	It's about people knowing their proper place, right?
	But that's the point.
	If the feminists have finally got to the point where they're like, actually, there is a proper place...
	And it's not equality.
	It's me telling you off because you're a useless young boy, you know.
	And she's come around to the sort of school mom, you know, old English school mom view of how gender relations should work.
	Fifth wave feminism, ladies and gentlemen.
	Does this translate into American?
	Because the British cougar here is essentially a woman that tells you all.
	No, no, I think she's American.
	Oh, okay.
	I think she's American.
	But the thing is, this is just a truism.
	Right.
	This is just a universal truism of the way that these relationships go.
	This isn't about equality.
	No, she hasn't mentioned the word equality once.
	She's mentioned the victimhood of women and all this, but she can't talk about equality because she's adopted a position of superiority over these young men because of her authority as an older lady.
	I can see in the chat here people calling her a mom dom.
	That's basically what she is.
	But it's not about equality because that's not what this is.
	And this is about a kind of innate human desire for knowing one's place.
	And she is leveraging that.
	By calling these guys out for their behaviour.
	And she's discovering, oh, I'm so empowered because I can use this propriety to tell these young men off.
	Very feminist.
	Very feminist indeed.
	Mashallah, we're all feminist now.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Cover up, get off the dating apps, and tell off those young men for not doing the right thing.
	Oh, boy.
	I love it.
	Anyway, that's enough of that.
	So the last thing here is just, I didn't really know what to do, so I just put together a bunch of nonsense.
	Hopefully we're just going to have a laugh.
	Yeah, so just to summarise what this is essentially, is basically the progressives are busy progressing things, and sometimes it's not like an entire segment's worth in one story, but it's a notable story, and they all kind of follow the same pattern of, this is what the left is doing, and this is where it's going, and so here we are.
	So the first thing here is just a celebration of diversity and inclusion at Cambridge University.
	Record numbers of BAME admissions for 2020.
	Such stunning and brave actions of these people to apply to Cambridge.
	What's there to celebrate here?
	They've applied.
	Oh my god.
	Stunning and brave.
	What?
	So in here they say that those from a BAME background made up nearly 3 in 10, 29% of UK undergraduates admitted, up from 27% the previous year.
	Looking forward to seeing those census numbers.
	Yeah, 30% of the applicants to Cambridge came from a BAME background.
	So if you go to the UK demographics, just in case you're wondering, the UK demographics here, if we go to white, 87.2% of the population is white in 2010.
	2011, yeah.
	God knows what it is now.
	It's done in 2010, released in 2011.
	Yeah, well, that's the thing though, isn't it?
	Because if that is proportionally representative, then it will imply that now a third of the United Kingdom is of an immigrant descent.
	Tony Blair, you did this.
	I'm being called out in the comments for my disgusting language.
	I have unfathomably used the racist term that the BBC used there.
	Good point.
	It's yukmugamur.
	Yukmugamur, that's right.
	The far more human term, yukmugamur.
	There are 30% yukmugamur applicants when 20-12% of the population are yukmugamur.
	God, I love the future.
	You can't stop progress, Callum.
	So the next thing here that's just total nonsense is something I saw.
	So there's a new transgender crosswalk, the first of its kind in the UK. Beautiful, beautiful.
	You can see the pink there for women, blue for boys, and white for the people transitioning.
	I imagine that if you left a skid mark on that, then you'd be charged with a hate crime, wouldn't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you would.
	But we'll do that in a minute.
	So the next thing here is just the website promoting that, oh, New Crossing will celebrate Sutton's transgender community.
	Oh, thank you for really hitting those working class issues.
	Transgender community.
	International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia.
	Isn't bisexuality transphobic?
	That's where you get the Id Hobbit.
	There we go.
	Do you see it now?
	Id Hobbit?
	Yeah, remember Id Hobbit?
	No.
	International Day, H-T... There we go.
	That's what it was.
	Id Hobbit, okay.
	God, I love how the new speakers is just...
	It just writes itself.
	For people who have joined, we did an episode previously in which people were celebrating Id Hobbit Day, and then just the words love is love endlessly, and we were like, I have no idea what I'm even looking at.
	Disappointing lack of Tolkien in it as well, to be honest.
	Anyway, so this is the first UK transgender crosswalk for the transgender community.
	Firstly, death to the word community here.
	What on earth do you mean?
	How many transgender people are even in Sutton?
	Sutton Town?
	Three?
	The idea of community is something local, where the people are interacting with one another.
	When they say community, they essentially use it in the same way that other people would use the word race.
	Yeah.
	You know, the race of transgenders.
	Well, anyway, you know, just anyone who falls into the category is now the community.
	But that's the thing.
	If they don't know each other and there's three of them in this town and they've never spoken to each other, is it still a community?
	Yeah.
	By the way they're using it, yes.
	That's a stupid standard.
	It just makes no sense.
	Anyway, so they say in here, the crossing, which is on the one-way system outside Asda, will be a visible celebration of Sutton's transgender community and a sign of the inclusivity of the borough.
	Stunning and brave.
	I love it.
	You know, until they had this cross-work, I heard they were transphobes, but now...
	Yeah, now I know that Sutton's...
	I mean, practically mandatory transitions now.
	When I transition, I go at Asda.
	I want to see it.
	I bet Asda's, like, equality department, the HR, if you work at Asda, you know, send them this as bait to do it.
	Just go to this Asda and do an advert about transgender equality, Asda.
	Come on.
	I want to see it.
	I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of creativity.
	I can't help but feel you could recreate a Beatles album cover with transgender people walking across this.
	What do you mean?
	You don't know it, do you?
	I know the walking thing, but how do you implement that?
	You just have a picture of transgender people walking across this crossing.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, well, there we go.
	That's for Asda to do.
	Exactly.
	Get on it.
	If you're transgender, shop at Asda.
	That's going to be the message.
	So they have a quote from a councillor here.
	Presumably a Labour councillor, but also probably a Tory councillor, let's be honest.
	So they're in charge of equality.
	Others love Callum.
	Yeah.
	What is wrong with the Tories?
	She says, Until transgender people and other minority groups are able to live without fear of discrimination or hate, we must continue to demonstrate our support and stand with them to clearly demonstrate our commitment to eliminating transphobia.
	That's right.
	That's very progressive.
	Eliminating things is very progressive.
	That's why they built this crosswalk.
	I'm here to eliminate something.
	I know.
	If you were transgender and you walked into Sutton, oh boy, you were going to get beaten up there.
	But now the crosswalk's there, everything's solved.
	But what other movements can say that our movement is built on eliminating things?
	Eliminate hate.
	Not very nice movements, generally, are built on eliminating things.
	I mean, if Adolf Hitler would come like, look, I'm here to eliminate the problem.
	What's the problem?
	Racists.
	We're going to kill all the racists.
	Exactly.
	What's the final solution to the transphobia problem?
	Kill all the transphobes.
	Well, you've got to eliminate transphobia, and transphobia exists in the minds of the transphobes.
	We're going to put the party flag wherever it needs to be.
	All the rest of it.
	I'm just saying, it's a very negative thing to build a movement on.
	Maybe I should have added it, but I forgot.
	I don't know if people saw it.
	There was a thing in Scotland.
	Some guy who was running for Scottish Parliament went up, and he was protesting the new Scottish hate crime bill, and the way he did this was he got himself an armband with diversity colours and the word love on it, and a little symbol in here of a heart, and would go around giving the salute, you know which one, and him and two friends turned up, and they would all do it in unison, screaming love.
	The diversity and inclusion salutes.
	But it's obviously just satire of Hamza Yusuf's hate crime bill.
	They actually ran into Hamza Yusuf and Hamza Yusuf started calling them fascists.
	It was like, no, no, we're here for love!
	And then they did the thing.
	But it's ironic that Hamza Yusuf, the arch-fascist of the Scottish National Party, which again, National Socialist Party, Is calling other people fascists and complaining about white people all over the place and saying, I need to listen to, you know, we need to be able to criminalise your dining room conversations.
	But you're the fascist.
	Oh, shut up, Hamza.
	He wasn't even the worst one there.
	That's the irritating thing.
	The journalists were the worst one there.
	Because they were recording these guys and they were just like, you know, they're playing their satire up being, let's, we're here for love to eliminate hate and all the rest of it.
	And this journalist, this fat guy with his phone is just like, Now you're a bunch of fascists doing Nazi salutes.
	And then the guys who were doing satire, broke character, were just like, you can't be that stupid.
	There is no way you are this stupid that you don't understand.
	There is, actually.
	There is every chance that they're just that stupid.
	But what I mean is just like, you know, you can't be like, hi, we're the movement for tolerance and inclusion, and we're here to eliminate something.
	It's like, oh, God.
	Eliminate the transphobes.
	Anyway, so that's that in Sutton.
	But of course, as you mentioned, I mean, don't drive on it, or walk on it, or do anything to it, for Christ's sake, or you might end up in jail.
	So this is in Canada.
	So a newly painted Pride crosswalk damaged in the town of Paris.
	If you have any information, please contact blah blah blah to remain anonymous and eligible for a cash reward.
	So this actually tire marks on it?
	Oh gosh.
	The image here is of the rainbow colours, but you can see they've also put that little triangle in the corner there.
	We'll explain that in a minute.
	And there's people who have presumably braked their tire marks on the crosswalk that they built on the road.
	I guess their defence will be, well, we were just representing black lives.
	But the thing here is, like, we put our holy symbol on the road and people ran over it.
	How dare they?
	I mean, what were you expecting?
	What are they going to charge them with?
	You drove over a crosswalk.
	Yeah, that is it.
	There's a little corner in there.
	So you said it was representing black lives.
	Don't worry, that's already been done.
	So the little triangle on the bottom there, you've got the white, what is it, pink and blue for the transgenders.
	And then you've got the black and brown line next to it.
	Because no other line here showed race.
	I mean, that yellow line there wasn't for the Asians.
	Well, I was going to say, what are the two big yellow lines on the other side for?
	The red one, is that for the Indians or something?
	No, none of them are.
	The whole point in the rainbow flag was it's not meant to be about race.
	Can we be represented by the purple one?
	Um, why?
	Well, just because I'd like some representation.
	I'd like the colour purple.
	Yeah.
	Why not?
	We're in the flag now, boys.
	Yeah.
	But also, I love how this has become, because as soon as they started adding race to it, people unironically used this flag with the triangle, with the black and brown, to represent black and brown people.
	But then this just became a symbol of the upright.
	Like, I don't know if you've seen their memes, but they're just like, yes, the flag in which all the colours are separated.
	A place for every race.
	And it's like, well, that's exactly the progressive message here.
	They put black and brown people in their own little box in which they shall not touch the other colours.
	Shall never mix.
	Good God.
	Just to be clear, we advocate against segregation on this podcast.
	We are anti-segregation.
	We're not progressives or the alt-right, but those two are.
	The next thing here is just that this isn't new.
	As you can see, this is from 2021 recent, but there's loads of these, so if you go to the next one, this is a West Vancouver PD. Investigators would like to speak with the driver responsible for defacing a recently installed Pride crosswalk.
	How did he deface it?
	He drove over it!
	That's what...
	They've got a picture of the crosswalk that clearly just has, like, he's turning and, I don't know, he had the brakes on or something.
	And then pictures of the car, as if you're like, look at this man.
	Like, look at the car he's driving.
	That's the car on the alt-right.
	There's clearly a white man in it as well.
	A white man drove over this crosswalk and there's a tyre mark.
	Also, there's white lines on this crosswalk as well.
	But how could they possibly prove that this was done with, like, malice or something like that?
	You know, you'd be like, well, I just drove over it.
	Why is there a skid mark?
	I don't know.
	I guess I had to brake.
	What do you want?
	Because I'm driving a car, not a go-kart.
	Yeah, exactly, yeah.
	You know, I don't know what to tell you.
	You know, I'm sorry that you've defaced our holy monument.
	Well, maybe don't put it on the floor.
	Imagine the Nazi party writing the, you know, putting swastika crosswalks and then everyone who drives over them gets done for, you know, going against the party.
	Being a communist or a Jew.
	It's just stupid.
	Like, I could get an argument for the idea that if you drove over it and then started doing donuts or something, whilst blasting, I don't know, like, death to YMCA or something, okay, yeah, then you could say that's him being hateful.
	But driving his car on the road...
	That's not a hateful act.
	Sorry to say, but again, this isn't the only one.
	There's another one of these.
	It's probably not even an electric car.
	Let's go to the next one.
	There should be one more of these, which you can see.
	Lembeth Pride Fest here, so this is a Facebook post.
	For immediate release!
	Less than a week ago, someone became and trashed our transgender flags here.
	So if you go down, I'm going to read the whole thing, because it's just raining.
	You can see here, it's wear and tear.
	There's wear and tear on the crosswalks, and this is vandalism.
	Total bigotry.
	I don't know what to say.
	It's just so beyond parody.
	I love how Facebook lets you do a little pride emoji now.
	Do they?
	Presumably there's one with a tie mark on it.
	I'll be using that pride emoji a lot on Facebook.
	Whenever I see something progressive.
	Yeah, and whilst all this is going on, what's going on in the UK with flags?
	So this is an article I saw on Breitbart by Kurt, who's a good guy.
	Hello, Kurt.
	So, flying Confederate flags deemed hate-related offence by the British police.
	How many Confederate flags get flown in Britain?
	The British...
	Just if you're from the South and you have, I don't know, like a Confederate shirt or, you know, a car, that's a hate symbol now.
	That's foreboding.
	You can't bring them.
	And in case you're wondering how this happened...
	So applicable, yeah.
	Who do you think was the one who reported it?
	Well, a leftist.
	Yeah.
	Last week, Emily Robinson, a 38-year-old teacher who recently moved back to the small English city from a left-wing progressive enclave of Brighton...
	Oh, God.
	...made a complaint to the police about the house flying a Confederate flag.
	LAUGHTER Why were they flying a Confederate flag?
	It was apparently like some celebration of a holiday or something.
	Oh, the house reportedly had a long-standing tradition of flying different world flags on days associated with them.
	What day is associated with the Confederate flag?
	I don't know.
	Secession day?
	I'm not American.
	So she says, quote, to me, this is a great opportunity to educate people on how damaging this is to many people who are a minority in our lovely city.
	As I know, many people have not had any reason to know why it's such a big deal.
	It's not a big deal.
	No.
	That's why.
	No one cared until you turned up.
	Like, this lady here, this Emily Robinson, this SJW from Brighton, screeching.
	And everyone else is just like, just a flag, mate.
	Yeah, just move back to fucking Brighton, mate.
	Just go away.
	And the next part's the best bit.
	Quote, I believe it is our responsibility, as white people in this country, to stand up to racism.
	Excuse me, there is no fellow whites here.
	I know that you've had your white racial consciousness raised by critical race theory, but this is why we call critical race theory a form of racism.
	Because you're literally arguing on behalf of white people against the people of colour, incidentally.
	I hate it.
	I hate it.
	Me and the whites will save the browns from this flag.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, no.
	Absolutely not.
	Goddamn, I've now got to get a confederate flag.
	So, they say, in response to Mrs.
	Robinson's complaint, the British police issued, quote, words of advice to the owner of the house and recorded the flag flying as a hate-related offence under the public order.
	So this flag existing is a hate-related public order offence.
	So it is a crime now, apparently.
	But they gave words of advice to the person there.
	There's an annoying SJW that's just moved back from Brighton.
	You might not want to fly this anymore.
	She's just going to cause so much trouble.
	And unfortunately, the law's against you.
	Just knock it off.
	I wish the police were that understanding.
	Yeah, well, I mean, maybe in a small...
	I bet they turned on and knocked on the door and went, excuse me, how are you going to be flying this?
	In a small village, maybe they are.
	Nah.
	But I can't imagine that she's made herself popular.
	Considering how much we saw how much corrupted the police forces yesterday.
	I don't buy it for a second.
	In a small local village, the police force is probably not going to be like the police of tolerance and diversity.
	So you can't fly flags that are very offensive or could be considered from hate groups?
	Yeah, not all of them.
	Some of them you can.
	If a flag is the flag of a movement that's dedicated to eliminating something, does that make it a hate group flag?
	Depends what colour the people are who do it.
	So the next one here is the flag of jihad.
	I see it's the black flag of labour flying proudly.
	So this is, I presume, some pastime protest in England's boy holding the flag of Islamic Jihad in front of a chanting crowd.
	Just call it the black flag of labour from now on.
	Let's do that.
	And people chanting about such and such.
	Jews.
	That's what they're chanting about.
	But if you scroll down as well, you can see that they end up complaining about this more.
	If you keep going, there's just the tweets below.
	So in another protest, apparently there was another one of these flags.
	And then below here, he mentions that the police were literally standing around in attendance.
	So were the stewards.
	No one cared.
	So they're just seeing the black flag of labor there and just no one interfering.
	It's fine.
	But if you brought a Confederate flag, good God.
	Good God.
	Yeah, that's a problem.
	So the last thing I wanted to end on here was just a jihadist rant at one of these as well that's gone a little bit viral because progress is progress.
	And his views on what should be going on.
	This is Britain.
	The reason why we are here is because we are Muslim.
	Those brothers in Philistine, they're our brothers.
	That's our blood.
	Our war is won.
	Our deen is won.
	Our Rasul is won.
	The solution?
	Very simple.
	Jihad.
	We have armies.
	We have tanks.
	We have soldiers.
	What are they waiting for?
	Oh, yeah, if this goes out to the Muslim armies, what are you waiting for?
	Jihad is responsibility on you.
	Wipe out that Zionist entity.
	How dare they?
	Occupy Mr.
	Naksa!
	How dare they?
	Speak to him, Mr.
	Naksa!
	How dare they?
	Have you got no honor in you?
	The Muslim youth here, we, the Muslims in the West, we are with you.
	We make dua for you.
	Make jihad peace of Allah.
	Remove the Zionists.
	You have these armies and tents.
	What for?
	Remove them and we'll make dua for you inshallah very soon.
	Very soon you will see.
	You will see this Umar's response very soon when we remove these dictators, these tyrants and we replace another Hazrat Umar and we will send you another Salahuddin and you Zionist entity will be no more.
	We don't fear anyone but Allah.
	We don't fear the United Nations, British government, I bet this man votes for Labour.
	There is absolutely no question of it in my mind that he votes for him.
	93% of Muslims in this country vote for Labour.
	He's a Labour voter.
	Tony Blair brought these people here.
	Tony Blair created this.
	That's Tony Blair's jihadist and the black flag of Labour in the background.
	Thanks, Tony.
	I hate it.
	There's a Labour chant as well there.
	Yeah, the Labour chant.
	The solution to the Zionist entity is tanks and bombs.
	I'm literally the Labour Party's official position on this.
	Just in case, we disavow this, just to make that perfectly clear.
	If it's not clear, we disavow Labour's jihadis.
	But yeah, this is modern Britain, and I guess you can't stop the progress, can you?
	Thank you, Tony Blair.
	Let's just end it there.
	Let's go to the video comments.
	Hey, Carl.
	Hey, everybody.
	Someone always asks, it's been a question that always seems to come up, is like, what are some good books to read to your kids to try and help them teach good moral lessons?
	And I was wondering if you guys considered reading Aesop's Fables to your kids.
	There's a bunch of stories in there.
	Anyway, have a good day, everybody.
	That's a great idea.
	Roger Kipling as well is a good one.
	You know, how the giraffe got his spots or whatever.
	A bunch of those, they're all good ones.
	Because they come from a pre-progressive time.
	So I don't know how old your kids are, but I'm going to recommend Little Red Hen in case they're very young.
	Because this is the one Academic Agent went through, and it's just Little Red Hen is like the one that's tidy and takes care of herself.
	And she decides, hey, I'm going to make some bread.
	And she asks all the animals, would you like to make the bread?
	And they're like, no, I'm busy.
	No, I want to do this.
	No, I want pleasure.
	And she's like, fine, I'll take the responsibility of making the bread.
	She makes the bread.
	And then all the animals are like, Gibbs, gives me that for free.
	So she tells them to get stuffed.
	Make your own bread.
	So she's like, if you want something, do it yourself.
	Oh, actually, there's a book that, I don't know where my son got this book from, but it's called Duck Says Don't, and it's very interesting, because the goose owns the pond, right?
	And all the animals play in the pond, and it's a nice summer day, and they're all playing in the pond.
	And the goose is like, right, I'm going on holiday for a while.
	Duck, can you take over the pond?
	And the duck's like, yeah.
	And the duck is a real busybody.
	It starts wandering around the pond saying, you know, frogs, stop jumping in the thing.
	You know, you fly, stop buzzing around and making all this noise.
	And so it starts putting up signs.
	And so eventually there are so many signs and no one's allowed in the pond.
	The duck's like, right, where's everyone gone?
	And then she realizes that, you know, they're all playing in the field.
	And so she builds a big sign saying, I'm sorry, you can do all of these things.
	I'm sorry, I shouldn't have done this.
	And the goose comes back and says, oh, you did such a good job because everyone's back in the pond playing.
	She's like, no, I don't want to ever be in charge again.
	And it's like, that's very interesting because it's like, don't be a busybody.
	That's, you know, don't try and police everyone's behavior for no particular reason.
	Exactly.
	Don't be a petty tyrant.
	And that was actually a really good message.
	Reminds me of when you were reading about Leiden.
	So on the train back from Germany to go and start his revolution.
	He had other guys on the train and he would just control them to a ridiculous extent.
	Do you want to explain?
	Yeah, no, no.
	He would assign them smoking brakes and stuff because he didn't want to smoke them in the carriage or whatever.
	But yeah, no, it's exactly the same.
	But then it would make queues for the smoking.
	So then he ordered a ticketing system for smoking.
	It just makes everything worse.
	Yeah.
	Don't let bureaucrats run your lives.
	That's their message.
	But there's also one that's Zog.
	We should do like a podcast on this or something.
	No, no.
	No, no, no.
	It's about a dragon, right?
	It's about a dragon who has to learn to become a dragon.
	And so he goes to dragon school, the other dragons, and eventually he has to fight a knight.
	And, you know, he's capture a princess, fight a knight.
	And in the end of it, they basically abandon their roles as dragons, knights, and princesses and go off to be doctors in the third world or something.
	And it's like, oh god, there's modernity writ large.
	But anyway, we'll talk about it another time.
	Let's go for the next video.
	So I wanted to get your thoughts on Edward Snowden, which is America's only refugee, and how much he plays a role in the American propaganda against Russia.
	I also sent Callum a direct message on Twitter, I believe it was.
	Feel free to reply, or not, you're a free person.
	Got some fans, Callum.
	Yeah, I mean, Edward Snowden obviously shouldn't be a refugee in Russia.
	That's my opinion anyway.
	I think that if the government is shown to be doing something behind the scenes, then whistleblowers should be protected and lauded.
	They've done a great service to the people, which is why obviously free Assange, free Snowden, free Manning, although she is free now.
	If they've broken their own law.
	If the government's broken their own law here.
	But the argument is, oh, well, you know, they've broken the law and put lives in danger by revealing the government's malfeasance.
	It's like, well, then the government shouldn't have been committing a crime, should it?
	Like, pointing out that the government is breaking the law.
	It depends on what they've released, I guess.
	But if you can say, I've just released the information that shows that you broke this law, well then, I don't know why that should be a crime.
	Surely that's something you want to incentivize.
	Right, okay.
	The next one is a picture of me, my face, my fat old face, on the body of Adolf Hitler with a no-bread armband on, which, honestly, the no-bread armband I stand by.
	But the German uniform?
	Definitely not.
	And the fact that you've viewed an old fat picture of me, I'm gutted about.
	Like, God, I can't believe how fat I was.
	I do prefer the Keto Sharia as well.
	Yeah.
	It's a better version of it.
	Yeah, Keto Sharia is more relevant.
	Yeah, because you've got, like, food laws there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	G'day, Lotus Eaters.
	Just in case I caught Carl, I'm going I reckon that you can find a really good data manifesto in Ephesians 5.23 to 6.4.
	I'd like to know your thoughts on that.
	And yes, Callum, my teeth are white.
	No matter how many cups of tea or coffee I drink, they'll never be liked by the SNP. But I'm very, very glad for that.
	So, what was it?
	Ephesians?
	I didn't catch it.
	We'll have to look it up afterwards.
	So, unfortunately, I haven't got the Bible memorized, believe it or not.
	That chap has the whitest of teeth.
	He does have the whitest of teeth.
	Like, are they real or not?
	That's the next question I've got.
	Because I know Lord Voldemort, his teeth, he's had them all knocked out, so he's got, like, and they're now really white, but it's just because they're, you know, from dealing with the religion of peace, let's say.
	Yeah.
	You have all of these shitheels sat there going, oh, where's the harm?
	Where's the harm?
	No, where is the virtue?
	You are a balding, childless millennial in your 30s, nihilistically sat there going, oh, everything's awful, we're all gonna die.
	Yeah, of course you think that, because there is nothing more important to you than your own life.
	And the second you have kids, that all goes away.
	Well, I mean, I don't know who he's doing an impression of, but I stand by that message.
	Didn't sound like me.
	Yeah, he sounded like you.
	No, he didn't.
	No, he was just saying the right things.
	No, you can see the little bit of the accent he put on there trying to be British.
	But no, I mean, correct message, though.
	And I stand by what I said through that guy's mouth.
	Callum, I want to let you know the way of the keto is the one true way.
	It has healed me from multiple sclerosis and I am now able to walk.
	So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
	Suck it!
	You have been deceived by a false god.
	No!
	That is shaitan!
	That is shaitan talking to you!
	He literally has the results.
	You drop the sugar, you become a better and healthier person, and it can even cure you from multiple sclerosis.
	It's the divine touch of Keisha.
	You should take this further and further and be like, yeah, it also cures cancer and AIDS. Prove that it doesn't.
	Oh boy.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Hey guys, I was listening to Michael Malice on Dave Rubin earlier, and I realized there is no Sargon Malice interview anywhere.
	It doesn't exist.
	And I really hope that that changes.
	Any hope of that happening someday?
	I guess we'll have to reach out to him and see if he'd like to do an interview with us.
	He's Michael Malice.
	He's a commentator.
	I don't know the name, but I can't put a Facebook.
	He was on Alex Jones and Tim Pool.
	And the great thing about it, he's like Hugo, which is why Hugo likes him so much.
	He's an anarchist.
	And so he has this habit of dropping firebomb questions to inflame things up.
	It's really funny.
	Is he the guy that went to North Korea?
	I don't know.
	Because I think I might have watched a lecture of his about it.
	I'm not familiar with whether he's gone to North Korea or not.
	But he's a very clever chap, I would say.
	Good afternoon, gentlemen.
	Take a listen to this short passage on socialism.
	You notice that economic growth creates inequality, so you raise the minimum wage, but that creates unemployment and higher prices.
	But that's okay because you create welfare programs to help the poor, but this costs a lot of money.
	But that's okay because you can always tax the rich, but they start finding creative ways to avoid paying taxes.
	But that's okay because you can always just take their property by force, but the rich start closing their businesses and fleeing the country.
	But that's okay because you nationalize everything.
	But then corrupt and ineffective management impoverishes your people.
	But that's okay because you can use propaganda to brainwash your people into loving the regime.
	But then people start protesting you due to food shortages.
	But that's okay because you can crush them with your army.
	But that might discredit your ideology.
	But that's okay because it stopped being real socialism when everything started going wrong.
	True.
	Yeah, where's the lie?
	I really like the Stefan Molyneux meme.
	It's like, so you try again and you retarded to some fails, but that's okay, because it wasn't real socialism, and then just repeat and repeat.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Good afternoon, gentlemen.
	Morning for me, of course.
	Thought I would take a stroll through the Rocky Mountains of northern Utah today before going home and enjoying a nice, keto-friendly meal.
	See, Bigfoot could definitely live up.
	In regards to Israel and Palestine, there would be a silver lining if Israel was to fall, because we then could go around shouting in all sincerity, we must retake Jerusalem.
	Even though I'm a non-believer, I wouldn't hesitate to set sail for the Holy Lands.
	Deus Vault.
	Honestly, it comes with advantages, being religious.
	We were discussing this earlier.
	Sincere crusading.
	Like being able to sincerely say Deus Vult.
	Can't do that yet.
	But I'm telling you, man, there could definitely be a Bigfoot out in places like that.
	It's huge wilderness areas.
	The guy who did that, like, please tell us if you run into Bigfoot.
	Yeah, let us know.
	Hello guys.
	I'm in a really bad mood right now because I've just sat through a company-wide presentation where the head of HR said that she would like to increase the percentage of women and people of colour on the staff.
	So, I'm about to send an email asking whether they're intending to hire people based on skin colour or fire people based on skin colour.
	We'll see how that goes.
	Please do keep us updated, because I want to know.
	I want to know what their response is.
	You know, they're like, well, yeah, basically.
	Well, I know their weasel response, if you sound British.
	I imagine they're going to respond with, oh, no, no, no, that would be wrong.
	We're going to do positive action instead.
	And they'll say that we're going to run recruitment campaigns targeted at people with brown skin and wombs.
	And it's just like...
	Apparently that's still legal.
	Thanks Tony Blair.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Hi guys.
	I don't apologise for the bread yesterday.
	However, I was the one last week who asked about being able to read Middle Scots.
	And I don't know why, after reading loads of Scottish history, I really don't understand why.
	There is a massive Highlander movement wanting reparations from lowland Scots, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	Because, I mean, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Divide and conquer.
	Just pillaged for years.
	Unreal.
	But I mean, God knows we don't need another oppressed group, so please, any Highlanders listening, please don't start that movement.
	But I remember, Carol, ages ago, like 2018 or something like that, it was maybe on trigonometry the first time you went on.
	I remember you saying that the Celtic nations have a good sense of themselves compared with the English not having a good sense of themselves.
	I don't really agree with that to be honest.
	I don't think it's healthy to view yourselves as not English.
	Or just viewing yourselves as we're opposed to whatever England does because we hate England, because we hate England, because we hate England.
	It's not very healthy.
	But not being English is a thick concept.
	Being Scottish, on the other hand, is a thick concept that can only be applied to a certain number of people.
	And I'm determined to find its essence.
	I will let you know if I find anything useful.
	No, that's fab.
	He's not wrong, because, like, Okay, so half of my family is Welsh, and they have, like, this is where I was drawing this experience from, just from, you know, having seen Scots and known them.
	But he is right that the Scottish identity has essentially become not English.
	And it's kind of awful.
	But the Welsh identity, there is a large segment of we're not English that's in there.
	But there's also the sort of segment that...
	What was the one that my nan's got on the wall?
	It was something like, you know, to be born Welsh is privileged because you have music in your soul and poetry in your blood or something, right?
	Something like that.
	And so this gives them a kind of aesthetic quality of their own identity, and it's drawn from that.
	And I would have thought that the Scots had something similar, but apparently Jack had...
	Far more of an expert than I am.
	Apparently not, and that's an unacceptable thing.
	So I honestly wish him well on his journey to try and find out what the sort of essence of being Scottish is, and I'm interested to hear it.
	I haven't really got anything to say.
	No, it's fine.
	Hello, fellow bread lovers and daddists.
	You shut your whole mouth!
	For the beauty of bread, I also am here to shamelessly shill for the podcast with me and my buddy, Sultans of Châtelet.
	Every Friday, half an hour at the Lotus Eaters.
	Come join for Special Spergery.
	Have a wonderful weekend.
	Also, Sargon, lovely to have you back.
	But I still notice you still talk s*** about bread.
	Now, I understand you don't like it, but it seems like you want to bullish bread, and that is not a good thing, because that is how I work.
	Are you going to kick me out of my job, Sargon?
	Are you?
	Carl?
	And I'm not even going to regret it.
	We're going to have words.
	Ha ha ha!
	It's fantastic.
	You're literally stealing the bread out of his mouth.
	Literally.
	Yeah.
	How do you feel?
	Good.
	And he'll feel better for it afterwards, trust me.
	Ugh.
	God, reject bread.
	Sorry, keto sharia.
	Ignacio says, Guys, I'm incredibly thankful that you're looking into the ordeal happening in my dear country.
	The communist government is spying us and the blame for starting this crisis begins with them.
	What a shock.
	You know, contain your surprise.
	The communists have caused trouble.
	Yes.
	The citizens of, and you're going to have to tell us how to pronounce, Suerta, are scared and Morocco is trying to strong-arm us.
	And the disgusting Biden administration prefers to side with Morocco.
	You could just claim to be Hispanic and then maybe he'd be fooled.
	You've got a question on that one, though, because you saw the elections recently with Spain.
	Conservatives gained a bunch of seats.
	Blocks gained a bunch of seats.
	Come on.
	If Fox is going to have this feeling about Gibraltar, what happens to these two?
	And it's like, right, okay, how about we just settle the differences and say, we will defend Spain's claims to these territories in Morocco, and you will defend our claims to Gibraltar.
	Simple as.
	Simple as.
	But anyway, can't watch live today again, but I'm deeply grateful for looking into the situation.
	I hope my country can pick itself up from the clause of the commies and government.
	My best wishes for all the army and police forces in the border.
	Absolutely.
	Again, the defense of law and order is essential, and that's what they're doing.
	Robbie says, quote of the day, Callum, loads and loads of guys gather together and just burst at once.
	Tia Falspark says, hold the line, Spaniards.
	Absolutely.
	Simon says, the Spanish media keeps referring to these delinquents as kids or minors.
	Bull.
	Absolute bull.
	I mean, you saw the videos.
	They have eyes?
	Yeah, well, they think that you don't have eyes.
	Are you going to believe us?
	So you're lying eyes.
	But yeah, the media being the media.
	Yes, indeed.
	Israel Hayes says, them refugees.
	Beautiful.
	Reminds me of the Spartans pushing them to the cliffs in 300.
	It really does have that kind of commentary.
	Just the Persian immigrants and those xenophobic Spartans.
	We kneel to no one.
	Yeah, the comments are great.
	These migrants look thirsty.
	Let's give them something to drink.
	Signor Leonidas.
	I can't believe I didn't think of that meme.
	Can't believe it.
	Jamie says, my mother lives in Spain.
	I've asked her about this.
	She said, the Spanish have no qualms about this when they come over in the boats.
	They just round them up and deport them within days.
	Totally ignore the EU on this subject.
	Based.
	I don't know if that's true, because I did see one, this might just be a one-off, but I did see one instance where some boats round up.
	I think they were meant to be for Italy, and Italy told them to get staffed.
	So they just let them all out of Barcelona, and they were just running off the beach.
	People with their kids were just like, what the heck is going on?
	And I'm sure that nothing bad happened at all.
	Anyway, George says, Dating apps exist, women most affected.
	I'd argue that the technology only revealed women's hypergamous nature and don't like what the results are.
	I recall a Tinder poll where women ranked 80% of men as being below average.
	This means that the top 20% of men have many options and could be douches with these whiny women characterize them as to fix the dating apps.
	We need to fix women's attitudes towards men.
	Technology is not the problem here.
	It's the user.
	Yeah, basically I, Was it Tinder?
	I thought it was Plenty of Fish or something like that.
	One of these dating apps found that literally women ranked 80% of men as being below average.
	It's like, okay, well, that's not true, you know, because of the way that averages work, there's no such thing as 80% being below average, and it is the attitude of the women using the app that ranks it.
	And the thing is, men are actually, like, the bell curve for the male preferences are actually pretty much on point.
	Men were pretty realistic.
	Most women are kind of average, but that's fine, obviously.
	But anyway...
	Were they basing the profiles on the entire profile or just the looks?
	I assume just the entire profile.
	Okay.
	Sugar Supremacist, disgraceful, says, find a woman, not a whore, based Callum, long live Callum fate.
	Brian Gillis says, literally he was talking about Tinder with my girlfriend and how a lady friend had sex with three fellas in one night.
	Oh my god.
	Joseph Woodland, I used dating apps and websites before I met my girlfriend.
	I'm an average looking young guy.
	Good job for my age.
	You basically say yes to everyone and then filter from there.
	It's gross and I'm honestly the only positive story out of everyone I know in regards to online dating.
	There is also the case where you used to date people one friend group removed from your own.
	If either of you do something egregious, your social circle will know about it pretty quickly.
	As an aside, if you're trans on a dating app, you are likely false advertising.
	Well, I mean, they should have a category for trans, really, shouldn't they?
	So people know.
	I mean, there are going to be people who have a preference for that.
	But that would be exclusionary.
	That wouldn't be inclusive, would it?
	Sure, but, like, if you've got a preference for trans people, which I'm sure some people do, why would you be...
	You might be annoyed.
	You biological women.
	Oh, that's gross.
	I suppose that would be exclusive to women, then, but...
	Yeah.
	So, Gsword.
	Dating apps have a bad rep, but I think back to Carl's chat with Shadowversity when he was talking about using a dating app to find a wife.
	You can use dating apps the same way.
	You need to be honest about what you want and let the women know upfront, i.e.
	relationship, career, family.
	You need to have standards.
	Don't just match with someone for no reason.
	Women will find you more attractive.
	If you can demonstrate this, that's true.
	It's flattering to be picked by someone who's discriminating.
	Three, you need to learn to look for the warning signs, and usually they're obvious.
	Good luck to all the daddists looking for their future trad wife online.
	It worked for me.
	Well, good advice.
	And you know what?
	About being particular and about having standards, the standards are important.
	And it's exactly right to say, look, this is actually an exclusive club being my love interest.
	It's a very exclusive club.
	As if it could be anything else.
	I'm not the one on the dating apps.
	Well, I suppose if you're literally an open-legs whore, we'll do literally anyone.
	That's the opposite.
	It's an inclusive club in which anyone can come.
	Yeah, if you're literally a man, then it's not an exclusive club.
	So, no.
	But this is the problem, right?
	Men, you know, ascribing to themselves a standard that deliberately keeps some women out, that is desirable.
	And he's right.
	And he should do that.
	Again, I'm listening to all of this, and I'm wondering about the difference between...
	I think we should make a distinction between the words dating apps and sex app, because I don't think they're the same.
	Well, yeah, we're not including Grindr in this.
	Well, I think Tinder looks like a sex app to me.
	It doesn't look like you're saying plenty of fish.
	Yeah.
	Like, I assume that's more dating.
	Well, I mean, I used it like 10 years ago or something.
	Okay.
	And yeah, it was a dating app.
	It sounds like the ones you'd hear about on the internet where you actually have to sign in and do stuff.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Right.
	Not just, nah, nah.
	No, no, it wasn't like that.
	Alex Ogle.
	I didn't meet my wife through the dating app either.
	Yeah.
	Incidentally, I met her in real life.
	And honestly, I think if I was to give advice, that's the way that you really should do these things.
	Because when you meet someone through a dating app, you get a bunch of preconceptions about them by the information they present.
	But the real thing that you want to know about is in the information that they can't hide.
	And that information is presented when you're in the flesh, which is why so many people are disappointed when you go to meet someone and it's like, oh God, you're a lot fatter than your profile pic.
	Your profile pic was like five years old or something.
	You're a massive bellend.
	Yeah, or you're a complete twat.
	So, like, just meet people in real life.
	That's how you should do things.
	Alex says, regarding dating preferences, an old friend of mine with an Iranian dad with a young daughter.
	He's got a wicked sense of humor, and when she started dating, he told her, well, in Iran, we have a saying about her daughter's boyfriends, no CIA. What?
	No Chinese, Indians or Africans, which caused outrage with his daughter.
	His wife was discussing this with him the next day with a friend and said, oh, in India we have something similar.
	No BMW. No blacks, Muslims or whites.
	When I heard all of this, I started laughing, he says.
	God, that must have been a funny conversation.
	We've just got one rule.
	is gonna come up with a dating app like Grindr or Tinder or Grindr and it's it's the same thing where you can actually do no BMP or something.
	Oh they actually would.
	But really we just have one rule here no whores.
	You know what that would work if Tinder did that tomorrow that would be a good marketing thing for them as well so like right we admit that this this app is is seedy but if you don't want to do that we've now got a system no whores and you can do that.
	Student of history Oh, my dating apps are loaded with sad, sad men, thoughts crying oppression, and the alphabet lobby, and it's all legitimately bad for all of them.
	Oh, and apparently they want Ancapistan with private police forces for dating apps.
	Yeah, it seems that way, doesn't it?
	I'm going to move on to the next...
	What's the uniform going to be?
	Like the Tinder logo or something?
	I don't know.
	I don't even know what the Tinder logo looks like.
	Just like breaks down your bed when you guys are having sex now, then, now, then.
	This isn't approved.
	Nitrocellulose doormat.
	What a weird name.
	I hope the crossing outside Asda in Sutton wasn't on the highway.
	Those colours will not be legal.
	All a member of the public needs to do is think they have the right of way when they don't and get hit by a car.
	Is this the council's scheme to improve natural selection?
	Maybe.
	My ideal, I don't know how you do this, but my ideal protest against these things, because this is ridiculous, and it's your money being spent on this as well, is to just go down in the middle of the night and just repaint it, but, you know, black it all, and then repaint the white stripes so it just looks non-political.
	So it's just a crosswalk, again, instead of some political message.
	How dare you!
	What are they going to do?
	You hate trans people, this is a hate crime.
	No, I like crosswalks.
	I'm not anti-trans, I'm pro-crosswalk.
	Yeah.
	It's just a zebra crossing, enjoy it.
	Well, that's the thing, you know, if you were knocked over on one of these crossings, would it be a class as a hate crime, says Drunken Clown.
	Presumably.
	I took Simon to one in Reading.
	When he walked across it, he started doing like his hips.
	Sexy.
	Ryan Broddoch says, going to ASDA as a man leaves a woman.
	That's ASDA price.
	Regarding LGBT, guide dogs get confused by them.
	Yes, they probably do.
	Did you see the horses?
	Yeah, they refused to cross the Pride one.
	There were some police horses, and they were riding along, and then they got to the crosswalk, and the police horses looked at the colours and went, nah.
	They just walked around them.
	Yeah, and they were rearing back and stuff.
	I was like, oh my god, homophobic horses.
	LAUGHTER Allowed in the Met?
	I can't believe this.
	Put them down.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Turn them into schnittles.
	Regarding LGBT pedestrian crossings, are they in the highway code?
	Of course they are.
	No, they aren't actually.
	No, I'm joking.
	Of course they're not.
	But that's kind of transphobic of the highway code here.
	But also then what happens legally, technically?
	I mean, if you could argue, you know, I ran someone over at this thing.
	Well, how the heck was I meant to know it's a crossing?
	It doesn't look like one.
	It's not in the highway code.
	Don't know what to do with it.
	God, I'd love to see that court case.
	That old guy, hey dude, I hope you're feeling better today, by the way.
	I hope whatever surgery it was you're doing went well.
	Guys, for 42 years I've been living a lie and it's time to spoke my truth.
	As a child, I knew I was different to the other boys.
	as young as three i can remember hating shortbread based uh when i was eight i made friends with a ginger kid at 11 i barely drank at all in my teens i preferred sang creme to buckfast in my 20s i preferred coke to heroin and in my 30s i married an enemy of the enemy the enemy an english woman yesterday was the penultimate stage of my transition a penis reduction to allow me to pass as an englishman henceforth my pronouns be fellow and chap right that's just that's just that's just unacceptable Oh, that's good pants.
	Yeah, it is.
	Samuel says, Carl, you have to stop this madness.
	You've infiltrated my family's life.
	My parents are now on a keto diet and seem much healthier for it.
	My mother bought a yoga block that suspiciously has a lotus flower on it.
	I can feel the sugar leaving their bodies and they seem happier.
	Side note, on behalf of my mother, how do you deal with the sugar cravings?
	Honestly, you have to sweat out.
	I went six months without having any chocolate before I started getting sugar-free chocolate.
	And the thing is, tell us to get the chocolate that's got artificial sweetener in.
	It's not sugar, obviously, and it makes the taste sort of bearable.
	Because my wife actually got me some 100% cocoa chocolate, right?
	It tastes kind of alcoholic.
	You know, it's got this weird sort of, like, aftertaste.
	I mean, initially you get a really chocolatey taste, but then it's insanely bitter.
	And that's from someone who hasn't eaten sugar in like a year and a half, right?
	So if you eat sugar on a regular basis and eat this thing, you're going to be like, puke, you know?
	I've tried it before, but I don't stop eating sugar, so just taste it like mud.
	Yeah, it's very strong.
	But no, see, everything's getting better.
	Is it better?
	Well, she's feeling better.
	Everything's going well.
	2Number9 says, I just want to thank you guys for everything you do.
	I watch a lot of the Daily Wire shows but never made any sense to sign up.
	Glad you started the Lotus Eater so I can support someone fighting the good fight close to home.
	P.S. Never laugh so much at a political podcast.
	Well, that's good.
	Thank you.
	We're running out of time.
	Chet says, Hey guys, I just want to apologize for the terrible audio in the video yesterday.
	I've noticed it on my end and since fixed it so future uploads should sound a lot better.
	A lot of what Dr.
	Tobin had said in the trial about the airway and breathing are true, but the problem lies with all of the things he emits, which I would argue was on purpose.
	He also said that the airway obstructions will cause heart attacks within seconds, which is completely false, but I will get to that in due time.
	In the next upload, I'll touch on assessing a patient's airway and give examples of what we look for and especially what we listen for.
	Keep up the great work.
	Cheers.
	Well, that's fantastic.
	At least we've got people, you know, genuinely experts in the field telling us what right from wrong is on this.
	It's totally believable as well because, I mean, Dr.
	Tobin is there to give a biased perspective.
	He's there for the prosecution.
	So anything that would be inconvenient, he would leave out.
	And you could see when they were arguing with him, well, not arguing, the defense was talking to him, he'd suddenly become forgetful like a lot of the others.
	Oh, I don't know about that.
	White Raven says, Carl, I was very disappointed to hear you say that you don't want to take a side in the Middle East.
	Israel is a secular Western democracy and we are being and have been attacked by Arabs since before Israel was established.
	We fight the fight against radical leftism just as you do.
	We fight for liberalism, the real one, and I think you should be interested in us as we share your values.
	Yeah, well, I'm not saying that, like, I mean, I support Israel's right to exist.
	I think it should exist.
	I even think the Jews should have a homeland.
	But I don't think you can say that Israel has been the goodest boy with regards to this.
	I'm not saying I would choose the Palestinians or anything, but it's basically a fight I just don't want to get into.
	It's just not my business.
	Like, if you had to live in one, it's easy peasy.
	One side would kill me, so I'm going for the other one, mate.
	Well, I'd just convert to Israel.
	I suppose you would, but I'm not doing that.
	Obviously, if I had to make a choice, I'd choose to live in Israel.
	Yeah, but it's just one of those things where...
	I thought about this the other day.
	I just don't like it.
	The thing for me is not even the debate.
	It's the supporters of the extremes on both sides who desperately want you to take a side and become their champion.
	I'm just like, yeah, but when you're on the experiencing end of that, someone's saying, come on, you've got a side for me, you've got a side for me.
	It just makes you angry.
	Like, imagine somebody coming to you and arguing, you know, are you on Chile and Argentina?
	I'm just like, I have no idea what's going on.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so I'm just like, well, I'm not really connected with either of these things, and so I don't really want to just say, well, I side with these because I like them more, even though that is true.
	What was the last...
	I think it was...
	What was it?
	Georgia?
	Armenia.
	Armenia had a war a while back.
	I think it was with Azerbaijan or something.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I just...
	I don't have a clue.
	Well, I mean...
	Armenia are Christians.
	So?
	Azerbaijan are Muslim.
	Do you want to start insincerely crusading, Callan?
	Well, okay.
	Palestine are Muslim.
	I suppose if you're crusading, yeah.
	So we're pro-Kingdom of Jerusalem.
	Yeah, but there are free Christians in Israel.
	I don't think there are in government.
	Probably not.
	Okay, fine.
	We're siding with the Israelis.
	For crusading purposes.
	For crusading purposes.
	It's crusading for Christianity, even though we're both atheists.
	Yes.
	Insincere crusading on behalf of the Israelis.
	Obviously, if I was going to choose which one I think is a preferable country to live in, obviously it's going to be Israel.
	Same with the gays for Palestine.
	Exactly, same with the gays for Palestine.
	There are arguments on the other side that Israel has gone too far in some ways.
	The settlements on the West Bank, I'm sorry, I can't say that they've done nothing wrong there.
	That's wrong.
	You know, that shouldn't be done.
	And so, you know, I'm not saying disestablish Israel or anything, but I am saying it's gone too far there.
	I don't know anything about it.
	The settlements, I don't know.
	I'm not like deeply knowledgeable, but I am aware that this has happened and it's kind of displacing Palestinians.
	And that's not wrong that the left, when the left sit there going, well, that's not fair, is it?
	It's not fair.
	You know, but that's not me saying destroy Israel because you can't seem to talk about this in any way without being like, right, okay, you're on one extreme or you're on the other extreme.
	It's like, God.
	Day's fault.
	Like Christopher Hitchens.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, he's going to town around if he lived long enough.
	Oh, I have a Christian now.
	Why?
	I just want a crusade.
	Anyway, we're going to end there.
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