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	Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Wednesday, the 10th of March 2021.
	I'm John McCallum.
	Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that our Thick Concepts podcast is up.
	Now, this, I feel, is an important podcast that we've done because we talk about the distinction between scientific and mythological language.
	And this is actually kind of important because there are some words that we used to use in common parlance that now we don't use, and those words have particular value.
	But I'm not going to spoil it.
	I'm just going to strongly recommend that you watch it because I think it helps us understand the continual progression of social justice language and, in fact, will be relevant to the podcast we're about to do.
	We also have a review of Hannigal's review of Jordan Peterson's new book, Beyond Order, which is up, which is fantastic.
	I'm very, very glad to have it.
	And one request, if we could make for the video comments for the podcast, no copyrighted music and no swearing, please.
	Trying to make sure that if we ever get reviewed by Ofcom, they're like, yeah, they're good.
	Joking, obviously.
	Yeah, so anyway...
	Keep them short.
	And try keeping them short, please.
	So anyway, let's discuss the fall of Piers Morgan.
	This happened...
	Well, it's currently kind of happening, to be honest.
	It's still going on.
	But yesterday, he stormed off of Good Morning Britain set and quit.
	So the discussion leading up to it, I think, was very informative, and it shows us the...
	Ideological conflict that's going on.
	And I think that Piers Morgan represents the final gasp of a dying order.
	And the chap he was classing with, I can't remember his name offhand actually, the weatherman for Good Morning Britain, he represented...
	No, let's call him it.
	No, because also it represents his importance in all this.
	It does, doesn't it?
	The weatherman for Good Morning Britain had some really interesting moral innovations to share with us, and they're total nonsense, and the sort of thing that even a child would be able to pick apart if they spent any time thinking about them.
	So anyway, first things first, let's go for this clip and talk about what I was wrong about.
	Meghan Markle said that there was a decision taken by the palace to stop Archie being a prince based on his potential skin colour.
	That is completely untrue.
	Archie hasn't been prevented from being a prince because of his skin colour.
	And that's been now believed by Americans on national television there.
	And that is damaging.
	Right, so Piers is correct, and I was wrong, because I speculated, in the same way that Meghan Markle was speculating, well, it could have been racism, well, it could have been that they were like, well, he's not going to be related to the Queen, so who knows?
	But it turns out it's not neither of those things.
	It was something like a hundred-year-old rule that prevents Archie from being a prince just because of the way that the line of succession goes, so it would be William's children get the title of Prince, and Harry's children can have the title of Earl or something like this.
	So it's nothing to do with anything other than royal procedure and protocol.
	That's what it is.
	And it's already been on the books.
	It's been on the books for like a century.
	Why would we accuse anyone of anything?
	I mean, what do you think?
	There's nothing there.
	There's nothing there, right?
	I mean, I think I saw in the comments, someone said it was from like 1917, this amendment was made.
	Right, so it's over 100 years old, this amendment.
	But no, we did it for her.
	Exactly, right?
	And so, when confronted with this, the weatherman decided that, in fact, it didn't matter.
	It just wasn't relevant that this was a fact, a demonstrable, objective, empirical fact that it just...
	It doesn't even matter whether that was their opinion, because at the end of the day, the rule is as the rule is, and so black, white, green, brown, whatever...
	Any reasonable thinking person would go, right, that's the rule, okay.
	Exactly, that's the rule, well then, that's the rule.
	But let's play the next clip.
	But again, do you know what?
	It's their lived experience, and...
	No, it's not true!
	Look, Piers, it's their lived experience, and again, this is where the confusion comes in.
	How do you sometimes identify covert racism?
	Just the rules of the palace.
	Except 100 years ago.
	The trouble is she's explaining her experience.
	Exactly.
	She's explaining her experience of it.
	And you know what?
	We've not walked in her shoes, so I wouldn't...
	I don't care what your experience is.
	If the facts you're basing it on is wrong.
	You're still entitled to your perception.
	Not about facts, you're not.
	And that's also coming through...
	But Alex, on that one, you're not entitled to...
	I don't care about her feelings if the fact is wrong.
	Right.
	Totally with Piers Morgan here.
	I don't care about her feelings if the fact is wrong, right?
	The fact is wrong, and the fact that all the weatherman could appeal to is, yeah, but her lived experience, I don't even start with your lived experience nonsense, right?
	I mean, if the facts are true, which they appear to be, then her perception, her lived experience, is just Not accurate.
	Anyone who's done any sort of study of psychology will know that a person's experience of the thing doesn't actually necessarily have to line up with anything.
	I mean, I remember doing A-level psychology when I was much, much younger, and we watched a video.
	I've probably talked about this before.
	We watched a video about a man robbing a corner shop, and none of the women in the class noticed that he was holding a gun, whereas all of the men noticed that he was holding a gun.
	And I was just like, what?
	What do you think he was threatening him with, right?
	And so it's just so demonstrable that your individual perception can be completely faulty, right?
	And so him going, well, yeah, but her lived experience, her lived experience, is irrelevant.
	It's just not factual.
	I mean, even without that, I mean, brainlet weatherman here is literally saying the reverse of Ben Shapiro, the AOC position.
	Feelings don't care about your facts.
	Exactly.
	And it's like, okay, but why would we care?
	And Piers is just like, well, my facts don't care about your feelings, so what?
	You know?
	But the thing is, like, she's explaining her experience, and her experience doesn't line up to the facts.
	Her perception is wrong.
	And if her perception on this allegation of racism is wrong, then this casts doubt on her other perceptions and allegations of racism.
	Because if she's so demonstrably wrong about this, what prevents her from being demonstrably wrong about the other things?
	And that's something that really makes us wonder.
	But anyway, let's go on to the next clip.
	If we think about the possibility that what they're saying is true and that they were worried about how dark Archie would be, it's also a possibility that they might not want him to be a prince, they might not want him to have a title.
	And the thing is, shock, horror, these things happen in life.
	Unfortunately, this is the way it goes sometimes.
	Why would we do that?
	Why would we make up the alternate reality where it wasn't about the rule, but it was in fact the racism of the palace?
	Why would we do that?
	There's no evidence that that's true.
	But he's like, yeah, but the possibility is like, yeah, but it's not.
	The possibility of it is zero.
	The possibility is zero.
	Because we've already established with 100% certainty that it was because of the rule that he's not getting the title of Prince.
	So why are you trying to like, yeah, but if I can just crack open the possibility of that not being the case, then I can extrapolate from this a whole nonsense narrative.
	It's like, well, yeah, you can, but why would you?
	Because it's just not real.
	Right?
	And the thing is...
	If that was the case, why would Meghan Markle not just come out and say it?
	Why would she give her sort of value-free interpretation, her scientific interpretation?
	She's like, well, I mean, it was, you know, there were concerns and conversations about the race of the baby.
	And, like, one of the skin tone of the baby.
	And one of the, like, a much larger segment this was, is Pierce going, yeah, but, like, there can be conversations about that that aren't racist.
	And the weatherman agreed that could be the case.
	We say, yeah, but the possibility that it was, it's like, yeah, okay, but that would have just been alleged by Meghan Markle.
	Like, she's not exactly the sort of person who's not going to allege racism.
	She's exactly what she does, and that's what she's doing here.
	But what's more is that she's, if she was confident that that was the case, I don't see why she wouldn't just allege it, right?
	But what she's done...
	Why wouldn't you also name them?
	But what she's done here is taken a statement that if you remove the intent, which probably wasn't racist, and then level it as just the bare facts and say, well, there was conversations about the skin tone of the baby, and then Have a knowing look towards Oprah.
	And Oprah's like, oh, racism?
	Then you now have created racism where there was not previously racism without actually accusing someone of racism.
	And it's like, okay, this value-free interpretation is actually not very useful unless you, of course, are trying to imply racism when none previously existed.
	Unless you are trying to deceive people.
	Unless you are trying to deceive people.
	Exactly.
	And so we've arrived in a kind of alternate reality conspiracy theory about what might be true, the racism of the palace.
	But it's...
	Show it.
	Show it.
	But anyway, so GMB Good Morning Britain continued to have discussions about this, and they kept platforming insane woke people like this very oppressed lady from the Cotswolds.
	Let's watch this clip.
	I like Prince Harry and Meghan.
	I have a mixed family.
	My husband, you know, he's public school educated.
	I always joke he looks like a Viking.
	He's British.
	We have mixed heritage twins.
	One of my daughters is very light in skin tone with blue eyes.
	The other is darker.
	We are walking social experiment of what 21st century racism looks like.
	He has seen it through my eyes.
	We live in very different worlds, in very different worlds, different parallel worlds.
	He gets five hugs a day.
	Verbally, I get five slaps a day.
	I walk into a shop with my darkest-gilled daughter.
	The walkie-talkies kick off.
	I'm followed by security.
	My husband goes to a shop with my blue-white daughter, and they are given free gifts and chocolates and discounts in shops.
	Discounts for being white.
	Free gifts for being white.
	And then everybody clapped.
	Bull.
	Absolute bull.
	I mean, by this standard, I think we're all people of colour now, because I don't get free gifts and discounts when I walk into a shop.
	I'm like, hey, I'm white, I've got a white kid, what the hell's wrong with you?
	And they're like, sorry, you know, not white enough, I guess, you know?
	Like, what the hell?
	Who believes that?
	Like, she went on TV and claimed that her white husband gets free discounts and gifts and chocolates going into shops because he's white and she doesn't because she's black.
	She gets followed around by the security.
	It's like, don't believe you.
	Just don't believe you.
	You are a liar and you are making this up.
	You know, you and your, like, Oxbridge-educated husband living in the Cotswolds are not oppressed.
	Don't even claim it.
	Don't claim it.
	You are not oppressed at all.
	It's such unbelievable and transparent nonsense.
	And for some reason, it's not just that Good Morning Britain is indulging in this.
	It is that the person who is opposed to this has quit after 41,000 complaints.
	This is a BBC report.
	ITV announced the decision to let people...
	Well, did he...
	I thought he quit.
	But anyway, they got 41,000 complaints because Morgan said he didn't believe a word of what the Duchess had told Oprah, and rightly so, and...
	He didn't apologise either.
	He went on Twitter and posted, Which is exactly the kind of thing I would expect Piers Morgan to say.
	But fair play to him.
	Fair play to him.
	Don't back down.
	You know, she's obviously talking nonsense.
	She's obviously lying.
	You have caught her in the lie.
	And the person who's defending her is like, yeah, but maybe.
	But the weatherman.
	But she feels it was her lived experience.
	I love it's the weatherman as well.
	It sounds like a shaman or something.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The weatherman of wokeism has decided to divine racism in the clouds or something.
	It's like, yeah, okay, it's not.
	It's not.
	It's not racism.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	And the other women, just nonsense.
	But I suppose the good thing about this is Piers Morgan is likely to pop up on GB News now, which would be the right-leaning TV news network.
	When's that actually due to launch?
	I don't think they have a date.
	Right, they don't have a date yet.
	That's a shame.
	But I assume it's going to be this year.
	We're hearing a lot of talk about it.
	We have skipped over a little bit there, which is that the weatherman started having a shout about how he thinks that the only reason Piers Morgan disbelieves Meghan Markle is because she doesn't answer his phone calls.
	And then Piers Morgan was just like, eh, screw this, I'm off, and just walked out of the studio.
	He was like, I'm not listening to the weatherman.
	I've got other things to do with my life.
	I've got a spot on GB News, presumably.
	I don't doubt that Andrew Neil's spoken to him in private about this sort of stuff, though.
	I mean, this isn't like Piers Morgan's son right-wing commentator or anything of the sort.
	Imagine if Piers Morgan is the right-winger.
	Yeah, I mean, he literally used to work at the Mirror, the communist outlet.
	So it's like, eh.
	That's why I'm a bit tepid on, like, defending him here.
	It's like, look, he's right, but it doesn't make me feel good to say it.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	But the thing is, Piers Morgan is a dunce in most respects, but he is patriotic.
	And this is what we were saying before we started the podcast.
	I posted something like this on my Facebook.
	It was like, look, I don't actually think there's anything to celebrate or anything like that, because Piers Morgan was the last bastion of British patriotism on mainstream television.
	He was the guy.
	The very last crumb.
	The very last.
	This is the end of the old regime.
	The post-war consensus.
	The Winston Churchill loving, Britain supporting, you know, empire was good.
	All of the mythology and narratives the boomers told themselves, this is the end of them in Piers Morgan leaving Good Morning Britain.
	It just goes to show you to have the requirement in public life for something called GB News.
	It just goes to show you how far wokeness has conquered.
	Because there is just nothing now that is going to resist it.
	And it's going to be nothing but Kehinde Andrews, Dr.
	Shola, and various other race baiters.
	The weatherman.
	Sitting there going, Britain bad, Britain racist, Britain racist.
	It's going to be that non-stop now.
	Propagandising the British public.
	And you won't even have Piers Morgan there to say, well, it's not that bad.
	You know, this wasn't racist, was it?
	And that's over.
	I'm trying to think.
	There were probably maybe two moments in Piers Morgan's career on Good Morning Britain that haven't been terrible.
	And it's when they started trashing Winston Churchill's statue.
	He was like, no, this is not on.
	And I think it was after the Manchester bombing where everyone was singing and the whole studio was in agreement that we shouldn't look back in anger.
	And he just took the stance of like, what's wrong with you?
	A bunch of kids just got murdered in the name of Islamist terrorism, and you're sitting here like, oh, let's just forget about it and move on.
	Everything is fine.
	And he's like, no, no, no, maybe we should look back in anger.
	And it was a moment that got him a lot of S, but it was right.
	It was the last crumbs of someone disagreeing, even though the rest of the time he's Yeah, trash.
	And Susanna Reid, his co-host, has been the epitome of useless in this regard.
	She's just sided with absolutely every woke activist that has accused Piers Morgan of being a misogynist or a racist or whatever.
	And the thing is, Piers Morgan, a few years back, actually stood up and gave a spirited defense of masculinity and manhood.
	He was like, you know, men deserve a bit of respect for being men and things like this.
	And all the feminists, they were like, oh no, don't be silly, that's misogynistic, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But he was actually making quite a good moral defense of being a man.
	It wasn't even a manist position.
	It was just men good as men, women good as women.
	Exactly.
	But this is the point.
	Piers Morgan is the dinosaur, the last gasp of this worldview that appears to have just died off completely.
	And so, the question really is how do the public feel about it?
	Well, here is Sky News telling us about the polling on the Meghan Markle events.
	48% of under 24-year-olds said Harry and Meghan.
	Just 15% of their age group said the royal family.
	But more than half of over 65's polled supported the Queen and royal family, even if they thought the couple were right to speak out.
	So you can see that they're putting this in a binary framework.
	It's, you know, young people agree with Meghan, and old people disagree with Meghan, and they support the powers.
	Old people have common sense, young people donces.
	Yes, that's great.
	Young people have been propagandized by the radical left into believing the opposite of what is good for them.
	But the thing is, this is actually not an accurate description of how the public feel about this, as reports on notices.com.
	This is from our new dispatches section, by the way, which is absolutely excellent.
	Rory's been doing a fantastic job here.
	They surveyed 2,111 adults, and 47% of them said the interview was inappropriate, while 21% said the opposite.
	So you can see by the way that Sky News framed it is, oh look, half of the teenagers or the young people think it's good, half of the old people think it's bad.
	You can see the even split here.
	No, there is no even split here.
	This is a way that the media will lie to you, will misrepresent what's happened to you.
	21% of people think that she did a good job, and nearly 50% of people think she did a bad job.
	That is not an even split.
	And then the rest of them obviously just don't care about the subject, so we can ignore them.
	It's mad.
	And then with other questions, do you have any sympathy for Harry and Meghan?
	56% said no.
	Little or none.
	Whereas only 29% said they had some sympathy.
	So this isn't really a very divisive issue from the perspective of the British public.
	Most of them either don't care or don't like Meghan.
	Looking there, the 21% of respondents who said that they side with Meghan, 50% of them were the 18th to 24th.
	So the morons in university who are being propagandized...
	And I yet to wake up.
	They will wake up when they get to their 30s, 40s.
	Their minds will change.
	They won't stay like this.
	I hope not.
	But yeah, as you say, only 50% of the 1824 group supported them as well.
	So again, it's a very, very small percentage of people who actually agree with Meghan Markle.
	And yet the media is presenting it as if half the country agrees.
	But anyway, we finally got a response from the palace on this.
	And just for anyone who's wondering where I stand and where I stand, is God save the Queen?
	Duh.
	Why would we even ask that question?
	The royal response was pretty good.
	Terse, the whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.
	The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning, while some recollections may vary...
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	They have been taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.
	Harry, Meghan, and Archie will always be much-loved family members.
	Excellent response.
	Gives them nothing to work with.
	Nothing to work with.
	What are you going to do to attack that?
	Everyone's entitled to their privacy.
	They're taking it seriously.
	But I love the, while some recollections may vary.
	And the thing is, if the weatherman hadn't blundered into it and been like, yeah, it doesn't matter about the facts, her feelings, it's like, well, yeah, we appreciate you're going to have some feelings on this.
	But that shows that the problem's you, doesn't it?
	It's not the facts.
	It's you.
	You're the one who thinks this because you're the American race hustlers.
	Don't know what to tell you.
	There was something else.
	Oh, yeah.
	The allegations about the mental health thing I don't doubt that she felt that there was massive pressure that does affect her mental health.
	I do believe that's probably true.
	But it's weird because the royal family do have private physicians, private doctors, private psychologists.
	Private hospital.
	Private hospital.
	So the idea that she couldn't get help is actually totally not credible.
	And I don't see how that could have been the case.
	Especially as Harry said that he had gone and sought his own help.
	And Piers Morgan was like, yeah, but if he went and got his own mental help, he was just like, screw her?
	Like, why didn't he, like, try to help her in some way?
	Yeah.
	It doesn't add up.
	It is not a convincing story.
	I mean, the whole thing is garbage.
	It's obvious garbage.
	I mean, even the point we spoke about yesterday, I didn't mention, but you mentioned the idea that she's arguing, oh, there was no instruction booklet, I had no idea what I'm getting into.
	I mean, number one, that's obvious bull, but let's just assume for a second it's not obvious bull, and she did get into it not knowing.
	There are people around you who will tell you what precedent is, what is to be done, because you don't know.
	In fact, Harry himself did say that he'd done the same.
	Exactly.
	There are people who tell you, no, this person goes first, you eat like this, this is what you're allowed to do, what you're not allowed to do, you know, you can no longer fly your plane, Philip, because you're not allowed, and things like this.
	It's not like there is no advice.
	So, sure, there's not an instruction manual, but there is a long nudges of people saying, stop doing that.
	Yeah, do this, do that, just, you know, be good.
	But yeah, the idea that she couldn't get access to some sort of medical professional to help her with their psychological problems, don't believe it.
	Just don't believe it.
	Obvious lies.
	Harry managed to do it.
	Why wouldn't he do it for his wife?
	How is it that the princess couldn't get access to someone to help her?
	He's also a racist.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	That would be the argument.
	What else can they say?
	And it's either that or Meghan is lying.
	Hasn't he already done that, actually?
	I think there is a video of him claiming that he's learnt about privilege or some BS, and claiming that he's learnt about how race affects everything and how he's sorry for being white.
	Yeah, yeah, and he said that in the interview.
	He said that in the Oprah interview.
	But the thing is, I mean, you are a prince, Harry.
	So, you know...
	You're kind of meant to be above everyone else.
	Yeah, I don't want to actually hear any lectures about privilege from you, because it's just given that you're privileged.
	So what's happening with that?
	Are they out of the family?
	Are they...
	No, no, no.
	Oh, that was something I forgot to cover as well, actually.
	A poll for the Daily Mail found that among those aged 45 and over, 62% were in favour of them losing their royal titles.
	And for those aged 18 to 44, it was still 38% who wanted them stripped of their royal titles, with 36% saying they should keep them.
	And of the 45 and over, 21% said they should keep them.
	So the majority of the British public, of course, want them to be kicked out of the royal family.
	So it's not even we don't believe you, just sod off completely.
	Yeah, we don't believe you, get out!
	Base public.
	Yeah, you're obviously lying.
	Yeah, exactly, base public.
	So yeah.
	Love it.
	Love it.
	Anyway, the thing I wanted to talk about was Boris Johnson.
	So he's the only man on Earth who's finally figured this out.
	BLM might be a Marxist organisation, don't you know?
	Yeah, the adventures of the man who's just started paying attention.
	Yeah, literally.
	It's kind of embarrassing, but...
	I saw this, and that was my view on it, and after reading it, I'm not so jaded, but it's, yeah, it's kind of cringe that everyone's walking around on eggshells still.
	Like, how much more evidence do you need?
	I mean, they literally came out and said it.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, when your opponent is saying, I'm a Marxist, you're like, hmm, I'm not sure.
	I'm starting to be suspicious.
	Yeah, it's pathetic.
	Just say it, Boris.
	This is The Independent reporting on it.
	Boris Johnson orders Probe into far-left hijacking of Black Lives Matter and Extinction Rebellion.
	It's not a hijacking if they're the ones who made it.
	It's like Karl Marx saying the Marxists have hijacked his philosophy.
	Yeah.
	Which he did.
	He did.
	He met a bunch of Marxists and was like, well, if you guys are Marxists, I'm not one.
	Yeah, he's like, I'm not a Marxist, yeah.
	But that's the thing.
	I'm starting to suspect that a bunch of French people have hijacked the French Revolution.
	It's like, yes, yes, they have, Boris.
	Yeah, buddy.
	So I went to the government website talking about this, which is the next one, in which they're announcing this.
	So Lord Walney announced as an independent advisor on political violence and disruption.
	And this is where I'm sort of less inclined to be like, you screwed up.
	Because it is that they wanted to put someone in charge of investigating...
	Let's just call it what it is, which is far-left extremism.
	So then they decided they would dress up like this, and this guy used to be a Labour MP, and then he's become a lord.
	He's quite an interesting guy.
	He's very, very anti-Corbyn, so good boy on that.
	Yep, good.
	So then he's been put in this place.
	So I'll just take some quotes out of here.
	So the coronavirus pandemic has coincided with an increase in activity and prominence among far right, far left and other political groups.
	Lord Woolney will examine the points at which the activities of such groups can cross into criminality and disruption into people's lives.
	His findings and recommendations will be presented to Prime Minister Boris Johnson and the Home Secretary for subject to publication upon their approval.
	So he is going to investigate basically what they say, the far left and far right.
	He will be focusing on the far left.
	In all seriousness, because of everything he said about it subsequently.
	And saying that, yeah, this is where they keep being criminals.
	You should now lock them up, which is good.
	Yeah, I'm upset that it took this long.
	Yeah.
	But that is a good thing.
	So good job, government.
	You have done a nice thing there.
	But the Telegraph reporting on this got a bunch of quotes from him.
	so I assume they interviewed him for this.
	And this is where it starts to fall down a little bit, which is like, come on.
	This guy really is the guy who just found out what's going on.
	So the thing to keep in mind, Lord Woolney resigned from the Labour Party in 2018, saying that the Labour Party had been taken over by the hard left.
	Good.
	And said that Jeremy Corbyn was a clear risk to national security.
	Based.
	Based.
	We say based.
	But it's also basic bitch.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's the first entry level into looking into Jeremy Corbyn's philosophy is, oh wow, this guy really hates Britain.
	He's literally telling you, I'm a Marxist.
	Okay, and he keeps siding with the IRA. I would never launch a nuclear weapon.
	Thanks for telling everyone, Jeremy.
	Jesus.
	I don't know, man.
	So he said he warned that the UK must heed the growth of the far right in the US, so the growth of the far right in the US affecting the UK, which culminated in the storming of the capital last month.
	So that was the narrative when this was put out, which of course it was.
	On the other end of the political spectrum, however, he stressed, we must be vigilant against a similar blind spot in Britain to the prospect of a progressive extremism that is unacceptable disruption or even violence carried out in the name of progressive causes.
	To which the political establishment and a large majority of the population have great sympathy, like climate change and racial justice.
	That last part's a lie.
	Just take any polling on Extinction Rebellion or BLM. No, people don't like it.
	It's just nonsense.
	Those groups are not popular from YC. And of course he is referencing there, BLM and Extinction Rebellion, as the two far-left groups that need to be investigated for violence and extremism, because...
	I mean, they literally carry it out every time they do anything.
	So he stressed that there is not an equivalence between the threat of the far left and the far right in Britain, pointing out that the latter has significantly bigger problem and both have been dwarfed by the scale of Islamist terrorism.
	Yeah, both of them are dwarfed by Islamism.
	I mean, that is true.
	That is true.
	But the saying that there's no equivalent between the far left and far right in Britain.
	In terms of terrorism, like actual plots you can point to, maybe, but in terms of extremist ideology, obviously, and in terms of an international perspective, yes, actually the far right look kind of pathetic compared to the far left.
	I mean, if you get your hands on any terrorism index for any given year over the last at least five years...
	Yeah, it's jihadis, then communists, then everyone else.
	Jihadis, 90%.
	Communists make up another 5% to 9%.
	And then others, because far-right ethno-nationalists are...
	Sure, they're kind of a thing in the West, but globally, they're kind of pathetic.
	They're not in the same league of terrorism.
	I honestly think that if the far-left didn't have so much representation in public life, as in if they weren't on Good Morning Britain, if they weren't in all the universities, we'd see a lot more terrorism from them.
	Yeah, because they're quite happy not to commit terrorism because they get everything they want anyway.
	Yeah, why would they need to, frankly?
	Yeah, so he continues.
	There have been a number of, at the moment, isolated examples of climate change activist groups, particularly Extinction Rebellion, overstepping the mark into antisocial behaviour.
	Overstepping the mark.
	I mean, could you imagine him talking about the EDL like that?
	Well, these lads are going a bit far, aren't they?
	They're doing something a bit overstepping the mark.
	Do you remember when the public had to drag an Extinction Rebellion protester off the top of a train so they could get on the train and leave?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	That's pathetic.
	Yeah.
	But I don't think he's referring to that.
	I think he's referring to their anti-democratic activities, which would include, if you can get the BBC article, Extinction Rebellion blocking newspaper circulation they don't like.
	I mean, the kind of thing the brown shirts or the reds would do.
	Yeah.
	Well, they are the reds.
	Well, yeah.
	Literal watermelons.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so that's, yeah, I mean, if that's not overstepping the mark, I don't know what is.
	So he continues, I want to look at the way anti-democratic, anti-capitalist, far-left fringe groups in Britain, like the Socialist Workers' Party, tend to have much more success in hijacking important causes and mainstream cultural activity than the far-right and the harm the far-right may do.
	So he's openly calling out here that actually the problem here is that Trotskyists, Socialist Workers' Party or other far-left anti-capitalist, anti-democracy groups, they're very good at influencing institutions by just infiltrating them.
	They just become part of the cogs and then they're the machine.
	Which is what we've been saying for many years now.
	I mean, pick any government department, or the national press, for example, or the BBC. State-funded.
	It's full of leftists.
	And then he points out that the far-right are terrible at that, and they suck.
	It's like, yeah, okay.
	Good.
	I guess so, yeah.
	A far greater number of mainstream politicians are happily embracing far-left front organisations like Unite Against Fascism.
	Now that's good.
	That's a good call out there.
	So Unite Against Fascism, for foreign audiences who may not know, is a literally Trotskyist organisation that was set up to be like, we're going to fight the BNP. And embarrassingly, they ended up getting endorsed by David Cameron, the Conservative Prime Minister.
	It's just like, you knew what they were and you still did this, you moron.
	And they have subsidiaries.
	So the main subsidiary they have is Stand Up Against Racism.
	Stand Up To Racism.
	Stand Up To Racism, sorry.
	This is chaired by Diane Abbott.
	The chairman is Diane Abbott.
	Diane Abbott who said Mao did more good than harm.
	Yep.
	The Trotskyists say that they are central towards running, as we've done previously in this episode I'm referencing here, is the BBC using a representative from Stand Up to Racism to demand that a rights-leaning, not far-right, just right-leaning YouTube channel needs to be banned.
	Which it was.
	Which they've now done.
	Voice of Wales, for people who might remember, is now gone off YouTube.
	It's dead.
	Thanks, national broadcaster funded by this state, who is getting the Trotskyists in to demand that this happens.
	A Trotskyist child.
	Yeah.
	Other people on there include people from the Muslim Council of Britain.
	Surprise, surprise.
	Yeah.
	Anyway.
	So they say that his intervention, Lord Walney, comes after the Socialist Workers' Party faced allegations of trying to hijack the Black Lives Matter movement last summer.
	Lord Walney also raised concerns that the leadership of Black Lives Matter UK have pushed a very hard line, an absolutist view.
	I was like, Jesus Christ, you really are the...
	It's like basic.
	You think the left are infiltrating Black Lives Matter?
	How could he say this?
	This is quite an absurd accusation.
	Well, I mean, we just go to their website.
	It's not even hard.
	The next one here is Ben Bradley pointing out, good MP, that this is from their website.
	We're guided by a commitment to dismantle imperialism, capitalism, white supremacy, patriarchy, and it goes on and on.
	State structures that disproportionately harm black people in Britain and around the world.
	International communists.
	Got it.
	That's all you have to say.
	I mean, put on a Soviet accent and say that.
	We are committed to guiding and dismantling imperialism, capitalism, white supremacists.
	You know, it's pathetically obvious that that's what they are.
	These are communist revolutionaries.
	And then you just, just the images from the protests.
	So if we can get the first image up.
	This is a BLM protest, and you see those signs there, the yellow and pink.
	You'll see at the top, stand up to racism.
	This is, you know, for people who may be wondering, keep those signs in your mind, the colour scheme, whenever you see a British protest.
	Any left-wing protest, those are always there, because it's literally like, buy your own cabal of angry leftists.
	They just come up and they give them the signs.
	A funded organisation produces these signs.
	Yeah, and this is the organisation he's saying is run by Trotskyists and therefore needs to be investigated by the British state.
	And they're a BLM protest, so okay.
	And then you'll notice this lady at the bottom there with her body armour and her little hat there.
	Let's go to the next image for a close-up.
	Oh, I remember her, yeah.
	Does this look like a communist, or does it look like some kind of, you know, centrist liberal?
	It very much looks like some sort of South African economic freedom fighter's attire.
	You know, the sort of radical left-wing who are like, yeah, we're going to kill the boa, kill the white man, and stuff like that.
	The communists.
	Yeah, the whole aesthetic is the same aesthetic.
	I mean, berets.
	I mean, where else are they popular?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Anyway, so he finished it off by saying that the niche agenda of BLM being anti-capitalist risks taking attention away from really legitimate and urgent debates on reform about what is needed about racism in wider society.
	How are you this stupid?
	I don't understand.
	Like, how can you be like, they have real concerns, but also they're run by Marxists who make everything up?
	I mean, what more needs to be done?
	Like, honestly, what more needs to be done?
	Racism is illegal at this point.
	If you're racist to someone, you are obviously going to find yourself with some sort of criminal record.
	And Piers Morgan, for just approaching the topic of, well, Meghan Markle was wrong on her allegation of racism, is now no longer a host of Good Morning Britain.
	Gotta go.
	What more?
	What more needs to be done?
	I mean, it's not even like the United States has hate crimes on the books, which I also oppose.
	I think it's stupid.
	Of course, yeah.
	You say, if someone commits assault, but they did it on the basis of racial prejudice, therefore they should get a longer sentence.
	That was an argument back in, what, like the 90s, 2000s?
	We have hate speech laws on the books.
	I mean, there are codes about what you can and cannot say on the basis that it may offend people.
	I mean, Section 127 of the Communications Act.
	Anything said on the internet which can be perceived as grossly offensive, which of course anything racist is that.
	Therefore, that can be a crime.
	It's sentenced with up to a year in jail or fines.
	I mean, what, that isn't enough to counter racism?
	I mean, literally policing people's speech?
	I also just hate the concept.
	It's horrible.
	But it goes against the spirit of the common law, right?
	It's your actions that matter.
	It's your actions, the things you do that matter.
	That was the spirit of the common law, not what you believe.
	We don't criminalise people for their beliefs, or we shouldn't.
	I know, this is massively anti-liberal, but if we wanted to take the perspective of we're totalitarians who want to police racism into non-existence.
	And police your thoughts.
	I mean, we're already policing speech.
	I mean, do you want to go the thoughts route?
	What stops us?
	What barrier is there?
	Yeah.
	And just talking about BLM, in case he's still too dense to understand why they're a problem.
	I mean, why can I make images like this?
	We go to the next link here.
	It's just, you know, an image of one of their demonstrations where they ended up hurting this police officer.
	Like, why can I make that?
	This is in response to a Labour MP saying that Black Lives Matter is wonderful because they're an inspiring call for justice and equality.
	Yeah, I don't think so.
	Bull.
	Zara Sultan is one of the worst as well.
	Yeah, she is one of these far left.
	She's an Islamo-leftist.
	Yeah, that's a good description.
	But the response to the government saying we're going to investigate the far left is, of course, this is fascism.
	I'm not joking.
	Oh, Paul Mason.
	Yeah, Paul Mason.
	Of course, Paul Mason says this.
	Paul Mason is a goddamn communist.
	So, Boris Johnson's probe into left-wing extremism, in quotes, is a dangerous distraction from the fascist threat.
	Thanks, Paul.
	Of course.
	Thanks for the input from the communist radical left.
	Thank you.
	I look forward to your next appearance on Novara Media, Paul.
	I watch them all, by the way.
	I watch them all to see what the communists think, and you're crazy.
	I actually just read his history as well, just to be interested in why he's of notes.
	I know him as a Labour activist, but he's like a Corbynite simp, of course.
	But he worked for the BBC in Channel 4.
	He was an editor with Channel 4.
	And his qualifications for doing this is he has a degree in music and politics.
	He used to be a music teacher.
	But also, the qualification really is that he is a communist.
	Being a communist is the qualification.
	And the argument in here is, of course, laughable.
	A Greek acquaintance, long departed, joined the anti-Nazi resistance as a teenager, and then fought on the communist side of the civil war.
	The civil war between the communists and democrats.
	Like, the Allies were backing the democrats.
	when it was over as a jester of reconciliation his local police commander offered to destroy his intelligence file i told him to keep it he said that's my medal it's the only official recognition i'll ever likely get so we're going to start off by simping for a communist who was not just fighting the nazis but then decided to fight the democratic revolution um it's That's a good guy, I'm sure.
	And then he says, So I am an extremist.
	Yeah.
	Well, there you go, mate.
	There's one.
	You can take him out.
	I mean, literally simping for communism, been simping for communism all his life, and then demanding that you look into him.
	Well, let's make his wish come true.
	Yeah.
	I mean...
	I don't know what else to say.
	I'm not going to read the rest of it because it's just propaganda.
	They're literally admitting that they're communist extremists everywhere.
	And you're like, yeah, but the far right.
	It's like, what far right?
	It's like, yeah, well, they do exist.
	I mean, Combat 18 or 19?
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	You know, they're a thing, but they're already prescribed.
	Well, they're already prescribed groups.
	People have been arrested for being members of it.
	I mean, that's being dealt with.
	But what's happening with the far left?
	Oh, they get mainstream media coverage.
	Yeah, I just wanted to bring up a list we have on our website, which is an incomplete list of Antifa violence, which is, I try and update when I can, but not often enough.
	And just referencing some of the things that have happened in the UK, Antifa claim for one parliamentary hustings that they shut down.
	They just came there and shouted until it was shut down because they didn't like the speakers.
	They've come to your MEP campaign to assault you.
	MEP candidates, Tommy Robinson as well.
	Storming university talks, not just yourself, but Jacob Rees-Mogg, because the speaker they didn't like.
	My talk at University College London, was it?
	Yeah.
	It's where I got the Antifa flag.
	But also Jacob Rees-Mogg, a conservative MP, giving a talk where they stormed that to shut it down.
	And in 2009, apparently we understood the problem, because we arrested 30 of them for assaulting people, and then 12 were charged with conspiracy to commit violent disorder and given prison sentences or conditions.
	Good.
	It's like, well, we'll do this.
	Do this again.
	Keep doing it.
	There's your roadmap, mate.
	All of the ones that write articles saying, I'm a communist extremist and I want violence, arrest them.
	And also just, if we're going to do that for like, this is the outside of the government, right?
	You've got the mainstream media associating with them, stand up to racism organizations, you know, street violence from communists.
	Well, you also need to look inside the state because the state is also of blame here.
	So this is a, the next thing here is a, is a, what should I call it?
	A report?
	Garbage report.
	I don't even want to give it the time of day, but it's something we've done a podcast on, which I'll upload when we've edited it.
	But it's arguing that hateful extremism, as they define it, needs to be made illegal, even if it's not a crime.
	Even if the things that are being said aren't illegal.
	Yeah.
	And the sources they use in this are Hope Not Hate.
	Like, Hope Not Hate are advising the state on what laws to draft to make more speech illegal in the UK. Hope Not Hate, a communist organisation.
	Yeah, the next link here.
	I mean, something we've referenced a million times.
	The head of research for Hope...
	No, shouldn't be that one.
	There we go.
	Nope, that's not it.
	Anyway, there's a politicalite link where HopeNotHate, head of research, is an open communist.
	He is a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain, and this is his page on HopeNotHate's website, confirming that yes, he is still the head of research.
	It's like, well, what do you want?
	Like, if your government is being advised by members of the Communist Party of Great Britain on extremism, there you go.
	These are the people you've got to look for, mate.
	I hope this has been helpful.
	LAUGHTER Well, we were really worried about Islamist jihadi terror, and so we asked Anjem Chowdhury whether there was a problem, and they said no.
	Like, it's...
	It's wild.
	I just can't...
	I mean, here's the political article.
	Yeah, so if you scroll down, there's a Facebook post from his Facebook account, which he literally just says, I'm a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain.
	Which is like...
	They always just say it.
	That's the best thing.
	There's no filter on these people.
	Yeah, but they know there's no punishment.
	Nothing will happen if they are part of extremist movements.
	Nothing will happen to them.
	My position is the same as others of the party I belong to, the Communist Party of Britain.
	And it's like...
	Okay.
	They just know that this is a protected thing.
	It's okay to be a communist, apparently.
	The British state will do nothing about it.
	They will consider you to be neutral.
	You know, the media will give you platforms.
	You'll get jobs everywhere.
	You'll be an editor at Channel 4.
	You know, they don't worry about these people being lunatic extremists who are like, oh, I don't know, trying to abolish the monarchy or something.
	God, I hated it.
	Yeah, get on with it then.
	I've given you a list.
	Get MacArthurizing.
	Yeah.
	Send this to your local Conservative Party MP. Just send this link.
	Go to parliament.co.uk probably.
	Theyworkforyou.com.
	Yeah, theyworkforyou.com.
	Find the email address of your local MP and send them this podcast and say, look, get cracking.
	Come on.
	We want you to do something about this.
	This is also the first time I've seen the government referencing the far left as a thing.
	Whenever they do reports previously, it's always, we'll deal with the far right and Islamists, like Savage Avid.
	But he refused to mention the far left in any of his reports.
	It's like, why is the conservative minister doing this?
	I don't know.
	Why are you afraid of mentioning the far left, mate?
	Because they're everywhere and they control the media and they'll try and destroy you if you do something.
	That's why.
	But anyway...
	Speaking of them destroying you.
	Speaking of the Islamo-leftist alliance, let's talk about the assassination of Samuel Pate, which I'm probably not pronouncing very well because I'm not French.
	But as people may remember, Samuel Pate was murdered on the 16th of October 2020 after allegations that he had shown a nude picture of Mohammed in a class under the guise of it being free speech.
	So the Guardian reports that he had shown a class of teenage pupils a caricature from the historical newspaper Charlie Hebdo during a moral and civic education class about freedom of speech, which sparked a furious response from a number of parents who demanded his resignation.
	Before presenting the caricature, he apparently invited Muslim students to leave the classroom if they wished.
	Afterwards, the father of a 13-year-old girl who did not leave the class posted a video on YouTube claiming the teacher had shown a photo of, quote, a naked man claiming he was the Muslim prophet.
	The father called on parents to join him in collective action against the teacher whom he described as a thug.
	The teacher had gone to the local police station with the head of school earlier this month after a complaint about the lesson.
	He reportedly told investigators he could not understand because the daughter of the father who complained was not in the class the day he showed the cartoon.
	And then a Chechen refugee called Abdulk Anzarov, 18 years old, who was given his residency card in March.
	Not old enough for the Chechen war.
	No, absolutely not.
	And as there's no current war, as I'm aware, going on in Chechnya, it's part of Russia, so I mean, like...
	Like, unless he's gay?
	But, I mean, then why are you a jihadist?
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's a very confused jihadist, if that's the case.
	He went to the school, murdered him, chopped off his head, and posted pictures of the deed on his Twitter account before eventually being shot by the police.
	The refugee had gone apparently to great lengths to find Patty, if we can go to the next one, as reported by the New York Post.
	He had contacted the Muslim father, who wanted the teacher fired, and the father, a man called Brahim Chinnia, I can't pronounce it, was one of 16 people being held after the gruesome murder, which sent shockwaves through the country.
	Police sources did not say how the killer had come into contact with the father, but he had been messaging him at some point.
	The father, who was accused of the teacher of pornography for showing the cartoon of Naked Muhammad, which again doesn't seem to have been true, and posted another video attacking the teacher in which he appeared alongside known Islamist radicals who had also been previously detained by the police.
	Five school children were also held on suspicion of helping Anzarov identify his victim in return for money.
	He was granted a 10-year residency in France.
	He was shouting Allahu Akbar as the officers fired on him and killed him.
	So nothing to do with Islam, then?
	Presumably.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, how do you feel about the Samuel Pate murder up to this point?
	Part and parcel of multiculturalism, I presume.
	I mean, this is just something that happens with mass immigration.
	Part and parcel of Islamo-leftism.
	Yeah, I mean, this is something Douglas Murray points out.
	You know, people argue that more immigration gives us more types of food, so we have more curries and whatnot.
	I mean, sure, we have a little bit more beheading in the streets, but, you know, swings and roundabouts, part of life.
	There's nothing we can do about it.
	I do like curry.
	Yeah.
	Is it worth it?
	Kebabs are good.
	Well, yeah, is it worth it?
	That's the question.
	But anyway, the...
	The real gut punch from this story, I mean, as if all of this wasn't bad enough as it is, but I guess you can say, well, I mean, it's kind of predictable Islamist radicalism, and so you should have seen it coming, and maybe you should have not shown naked pictures of Mohammed.
	Well, it turns out he didn't.
	It turns out that that was a total lie made up by a 13-year-old girl because she had been skipping school and had been suspended from the school and didn't want her father to find out, and so therefore made up this story that ended up getting Samuel Pate killed.
	Mattress girl.
	Mattress girl.
	But worse.
	Except a man died.
	Way worse.
	Not just...
	No, two men died.
	Sorry, two?
	Well, the jihadist.
	Oh, sorry.
	Well, I'm not going to cry about that.
	Well, no, I'm not going to cry about that either.
	But the point is, if one lie leads to two deaths, maybe you should think about telling the truth in future.
	Maybe you deserve the punishment that you would have gotten, and maybe those two people should still be alive.
	Well, maybe not the Islamist.
	But anyway...
	So, according to the evidence given, seen by French media, she didn't see the cartoons.
	It was a girl in my class who showed me them.
	She lied because she felt trapped in a spiral because her classmates had asked her to be a spokesperson, says her lawyer Mbeko Tabala.
	She felt like she was trapped.
	Her dad was going to be disappointed with her.
	Therefore, she had to lie about naked Mohammed.
	The girl's father had filed a legal complaint against the teacher, identified Pate.
	The prosecutors are alleging that there was a direct causal link between the online incitement against Pate and his murder, which there appears to be.
	He had done similar lessons in free speech in previous years and warned students that they could leave, obviously.
	Yeah, so she had originally claimed that the teacher had said to leave, and when she objected, she was suspended from the school, but that's not true.
	She was suspended the day before the class was given, because she was skipping school.
	And it was leaked testimony that showed her, explaining that she made the story up, so not to disappoint her father.
	So, I mean, there are multiple points of failure here, but I think the main point of failure rests with the father himself, who uncritically just accepted her story.
	He didn't do any investigation into himself.
	He didn't speak to the school and ask her about her attendance.
	Was she in the class of that day?
	I mean, Samuel Pate was saying, look, she wasn't in the class.
	This was something he had said.
	She wasn't in the class, so she couldn't have known, but the father decides to take the daughter's side anyway, presumably because he wanted to take her side, because he wanted to have an outrage about Muhammad.
	The facts didn't bear it out then, they don't bear it out now.
	The father is at fault here.
	I mean, the jihadists as well, obviously.
	Sure.
	But the father...
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, obviously the father is to blame for the stirring up of, let's say, tensions.
	But the fact that those tensions can exist is the fault of people who will kill for their religion.
	Yeah.
	Specifically here being Israel.
	But there are multiple layers.
	I mean, obviously the jihadist is at fault for murdering Samuel Paty, obviously.
	But the father surely knows...
	He was looking for a fight.
	...that in France, the Muslim community...
	It has been the source of a great deal of violence.
	Like, look at the Charlie Hebdo shootings.
	I mean, there are dozens and dozens.
	Nice attacks.
	I mean, there are just dozens.
	There are all these church attacks that never get talked about where nuns have their throats cut and stuff like this.
	There was a concert one that was absolutely awful where they were just butchering these guys.
	You mean the Bataclan?
	I think so, yeah, where they were chopping off their genitals and stuff like this.
	I don't think that was a Bataclan.
	There was one that was just really awful.
	But that's the problem here.
	There's just so many.
	There are so many.
	And so it's not like the father can be under the illusion that there isn't a very high tension in the Muslim community in France.
	Because, I mean, it's very obvious from the outside.
	It must be obvious from the inside.
	But then he's playing into that with his videos demanding Samuel Pate's resignation or, you know, things like this.
	And it seems that he cooperated with the terrorists.
	I mean, the father here is almost certainly an Islamist, because I remember hearing apparently they were stirring this up within a small group of people, and then that would have been the other Islamists, let's say, and then you've got the one jihadi that goes up and does it.
	But they knew this was going to happen.
	There was no, like, pretense to, like, oh, this will never happen, obviously.
	No, this is totally, totally what you would expect to happen if a bunch of Muslim activists get together and point the finger at a person and say he did bad things about Muhammad.
	That's what happens when that happens in France.
	You found some extra information about this, didn't you?
	Yeah, so I went reading the French press because I was hoping to get a response from Macron considering how based he's been on talking about Islamo-leftism.
	Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have responded yet, or at least I couldn't find it.
	But I did find one article giving us more information than the English press seemed to have.
	So apparently three children, aged 13 and 14, were indicted for complicity in terrorist assassination for being the ones who identified Samuel Paty at the scene.
	He said, yes, he's over there, and then he went over and killed him.
	And then the lady who is being charged with lying, apparently her name's probably getting this wrong, Zania.
	Apparently they could just say this in France, but in the UK she's like Woman Zed.
	Right, okay.
	She was charged with slanderous denunciation.
	So there are at least 14 people under prosecution in response to this.
	Good.
	And four of them being kids.
	Well, I don't know what can happen there, but...
	I mean, Christ on a bike.
	Like, there are such just fundamental problems with what's going on here.
	It's like...
	I don't even know where to start.
	But, um...
	I hate to say it, but I think the original problem here is just importing a group of people en masse and not taking into account the cultural differences.
	Ideological differences as well.
	Yes, but those come with the culture.
	I guess they do.
	One in two, aren't they?
	The idea of a Muslim culture means that it's an ideological culture, in the same way that a Christian culture would be an ideological culture, or a communist culture, etc.
	But anyway, in a separate development, as reported, two university professors have also been given police protection after they were accused of Islamophobia by student protesters.
	And this is where we get the Islamo-leftism connection.
	An investigation has been begun after the posters were put up at Sciences Po University in Grenoble that read, Fascists in our lecture halls Islamophobia kills.
	It's like, really?
	Really?
	What an ironic thing to say.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Islamophobia kills.
	But fascists?
	What fascists?
	Like, point them out.
	Like, there are none.
	What you have are communists and Islamic radicals.
	And so it's actually communists in the lecture halls and Islamophilia kills.
	And of course they named two professors, which is marking them for death.
	Junior Interior Minister Marlene Schiappa said the lives were in danger and the campaign was reminiscent of the harassment of Samuel Pate.
	We can't tolerate this kind of thing.
	Absolutely right.
	Very good.
	At least Macron has managed to flip his government on this.
	And so pretty much all of Macron's cabinet seemed to be like, yeah, well, Islamo-leftism is dangerous and has to be stopped.
	And so you get the response from places like the Middle East Eye, Islamo-leftism is just a conspiracy theory that alleges an alliance between left-wing academic circles and Islamists has taken hold in the government of President Emmanuel Macron, sparing calls for a crackdown on the spread of the supposed movement in higher education.
	It's like, no, it's not that it's taken hold in Macron's government.
	Thank God, actually.
	Macron seems to be the bulwark against this at this point, accusing Le Pen of being too soft on Islam.
	LAUGHTER And the problem is, of course, in higher education, where it appears to be.
	In Britain, at least, we can say it does actually happen within our left-wing political parties.
	Yeah.
	Like, Islam and leftism is not a conspiracy.
	They will openly side with each other and defend each other in times of Islamic attacks.
	People like Zahra Sultana are a perfect example.
	You know, like Ash Sarkar.
	Everything she does is in the defense of Islam and leftism.
	But, you know, whenever there's a terrorist attack, I mean, like we were saying about Piers Morgan, the don't-look-back-in-anger crowd in response to a bunch of children being suicide-bombed, where it was just the patheticness of, like, oh, that's just happened, now that it's all moved on, and say that nothing happened, it all came from leftists.
	There are no ethical questions about the community that came out of.
	We're not allowed to say it.
	There should be no discussion whatsoever.
	And that is just you covering for the Islamists.
	I mean, I'll tell you what, if there were loads of terrorists coming out of like Plymouth or something, right?
	And it was just like, wow, what is the deal with like 10 terrorist attacks in 10 years coming out of Plymouth?
	There's something going on in Plymouth.
	And if the people of Plymouth were like, well, yeah, but we're just, you know, conducting rape gangs and we're indoctrinating ourselves into like some radical far right ideology.
	I think I would be justified turning around saying, look, I think Plymouth has a problem with their ethics.
	Where's the place that all the English go to get drunk in Spain?
	Oh, um...
	Magaluf.
	Yeah.
	Let's say if Magaluf every year, instead of the problem being a bunch of drunk Englishmen fighting and making a mess, instead it was rape gangs and terrorist attacks.
	There would be an ethical problem with the English in Magaluf.
	I mean, there probably is, but I'm getting drunk, to be honest.
	But, I mean, that's not as bad as rape gangs and terrorism.
	Yeah, on my list of things I feel the need to tackle, that's fairly low down.
	But yeah, it would be fair to say that community has an ethical problem, but we can't say that about any of these communities in Britain, or in France, really.
	Although, at least, thank God, the French government seems to be doing something about it.
	But anyway, of course, the French academics...
	I felt personally attacked by this.
	Sorry, I haven't moved on from this one yet.
	But the higher education minister, Frederic Vidal, announced that Islamo-leftism is corrupting society in its entirety and universities are not immune.
	What falls under academic research and what falls under activism and opinion is something that the government, of course, needs to identify, and that's correct.
	Vidal is the third French minister since October to announce this.
	So again, Macron's government seems to be very woke on the problem, and nearly 70% of France, French people, agree that this is a problem.
	One poll showed that 69% of French people said there's a problem with the ideology of Islamo-leftism in the country.
	The poll found that a comfortable majority of respondents believed there was a problem with leftist groups, political parties, and personalities refusing to take hard positions against radical Islamic extremism for fear of stigmatizing Muslims as a whole.
	When the results are divided by political affiliation, 82% of the supporters of Marine Le Pen's national rally believe the issue to be a problem, 83% of the centre-right Republicans held the same views.
	Supporters of Macron's Republicans on the march agreed with the proposition 80% of the time.
	That is good to hear.
	I'm also just dying inside about if they did that poll in the UK. Who are the 20% of Le Pen voters and Macron voters who don't agree that Islamo-leftism is a problem?
	There's always some percentage.
	Yeah, I know, but 20%?
	One in five?
	One in five is the story of the man who's not paying attention.
	You know, oh, these terrorist groups are bad.
	Why are all the communists defending them?
	You know, like, well done for just waking up, I suppose.
	Presumably Conservative Party members with dual citizenship.
	Presumably.
	And so yeah, the French academics are of course outraged that they resemble these remarks and they've hit back.
	The National Centre for Scientific Research, the research body Vidal charged with the study, has already hit back.
	Though it's agreed to carry out the investigation, it's condemned attempts to delegitimize fields of research, such as post-colonial studies.
	Well, let me help you along.
	They're not valid.
	They're not valid and they need to go.
	Defund them.
	They are subversive poison that is trying to tear down the concept of France as a nation.
	That's what they're for.
	If you want to waste your own money on it, fine.
	But you are not going to waste government money on it.
	Well, even then, you could say, well, no, this is actually going to be the source of terrorism.
	This is subversive.
	They're trying to destroy France.
	Like, how could you be like, oh, well, it's fine in the private sector.
	Is it fine in the private sector?
	I don't know.
	I feel like if they want to fund it, sure, but then we can also put them under strict scrutiny in the same way you do with the Muslim charities in France.
	As long as they're going to be treated in the same way as Combat 18 or whatever, that's fine.
	Yes.
	What's wrong with that?
	Because these aren't genuinely radical things.
	Mam Fatou Niang, a black academic who studies race and identity in France, condemned Vidal's proposed investigation, saying it would put those studying colonialism and racism under unfair scrutiny.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's totally fair scrutiny.
	you deserve this for trying to destroy France because that's what you're trying to do and some some French academics who doubtless will get targets on their backs have formed the Observatory on Decolonialism and Identity ideologies to fight back against what they view as an unhealthy focus on race identity in colonial history in academia so France was once again is way ahead of us in fighting back against all of this nonsense and it's genuinely embarrassing how we're being upstaged by the French.
	Why aren't we miles ahead of them in this?
	It's so obviously bad that I mean, the fact that Samuel Paddy's assassination was all based on a lie as well is just embarrassing.
	Oh, it's awful.
	But it just gets to how big of a problem this is.
	This isn't just like, oh, there's a couple of nutjobs carrying out attacks.
	No, this really goes down to community level.
	Communities.
	Everything is wrong there.
	Oh, God, I hate it.
	I really hate it.
	And the thing is, like...
	There's so much suffering that goes on in these things.
	And this one, well, let's just move on from it.
	So, dude, when 22 children are blown up in a suicide bomb attack, that's 22 different families.
	That's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people in a massive web whose lives are ruined by the bloodshed caused by this stuff.
	And it's so bad.
	Just move on, bro.
	It's not a big deal, bro.
	I can't stand it.
	What's wrong with you?
	I mean, if people literally murdering children at pop concerts isn't big enough for you to start questioning, I mean, what is there?
	Sorry, I've got nothing to comment on.
	But this might happen again in the future, so, you know, just...
	Be like the Communist Club and execute your wife in front of you and you're still like, well, not a big deal, moving on.
	Yeah.
	Start whistling.
	It's so awful, man.
	But anyway, so we've made non-premium Josh's article about lived experiences because it seemed relevant in the light of the weatherman on Good Morning Britain.
	So if you would like a scientific and psychological argument...
	Against the concept of lived experience being the defining measure of reality, we've made it non-premium for 48 hours, so please do find that.
	We'll link it in the show notes.
	And feel free to send that to friends and family and people you think might need it, such as Conservative MPs, because we want them to start hearing these things and hearing these ideas.
	Josh makes a very compelling argument as to why this is an absolute bunk.
	Anyway, do we have a video comment, John?
	I love the chat here.
	What bizarro world is this?
	Englishmen are arguing that France should not be destroyed.
	No, I'm pro-France.
	Yeah.
	Thanks, Islamist.
	You've made me pro-France.
	Let's play.
	Hello, gentlemen.
	I was reading the article about the Potemac political compass, and I realized that it very accurately describes why leftist comedy is so for s***.
	Because...
	Like all Marxist judgment of art, it's not about the art or the skill.
	It's about the adherence to the correct interpretation of the centralized message.
	Yes.
	It's about promoting the political orthodoxy and advancing the goals of a revolution.
	That's what all communist art, all ideological art is about that.
	And it's really interesting because, again, it comes down to our sort of like value words.
	Because if you...
	Arts and aesthetics is basically the creation of pocket universes in which the rules are different and the story is self-contained.
	And this is why you don't really need to know that J.K. Rowling is a transphobe to...
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	A story is a description of a kind of reality that you can see your own life in, right?
	That's why art is timeless.
	That's why you can read a story from 2,000 years ago, and it's still an interesting and useful piece of art.
	Whereas a scientific discovery from 2,000 years ago, probably not so useful.
	Art doesn't age, is what we're saying, because it's self-contained universes.
	But when your art is not about creating a self-contained universe, when it's creating When it's about advancing a political position or a scientific position or something like that, it becomes non-art.
	It's kind of anti-art, actually.
	He's right about the article.
	It's a very good article.
	But yeah, so this is why we have to defend art against politics wherever we can.
	We've got another one, or is that the only one today?
	Okay, I know this might be a spicy take, But I have to wonder if this whole racism thing isn't like the curse of Princess Di for the palace smashing her into a wall.
	I mean...
	We'll just let that one hang in the air.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Moving on.
	I don't really care for the lineage of the British royal family line, but since you decided to bring it up, if you're going to speculate about the origin of Prince Harry's father, I would advise you to add a picture of the mother as well for comparison because, you know, it takes two to make a child.
	Okay, I mean, good point.
	But, I mean, he still looks exactly like Hewitt.
	Yeah, that is also a good point, but I'm not convinced.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry, he just looks exactly...
	Like, he doesn't have Diana's nose.
	So whose nose does he have?
	Like, Diana's got, like, more Roman-esque nose, but Harry's nose is very concave and looks just like Hewitt's nose.
	And the smile looks just like...
	And the chin.
	Like, sorry, like...
	The hair?
	The hair as well.
	It just looks nothing like Charles.
	I'm sorry.
	I mean, I don't even care.
	Like, you know, I'm not going to be like, you know...
	Yeah, if they did the DNA test and it came back, this is Charles' kid, I wouldn't really be like...
	Yeah, I'd be like, okay, fair enough.
	That's a really weird coincidence.
	But, you know, as a casual observer, I'm just like, nah.
	Yeah, if it might get up low that we're getting a test...
	You know...
	Right, so Brave Instance says, the whole lived experience thing reminds me of the new atheist debating religion with people back in the day.
	If you let God into your heart, then you would understand he's real.
	Anecdotal evidence is now treated as fact.
	Correct.
	Dylan Tucker, why is it whenever I see clips of Piers Morgan on American TV, it's always because he's being insufferable, but whenever I see clips of him on British TV, it's because he's got a reasonable point of view.
	Somebody who grew up seeing him give nothing but the worst takes on CNN in the States is very confusing.
	Well, I think it could be down to the fact that things have got way worse, because I imagine five or six years ago, Piers Morgan was kind of pushing leftism, because in America...
	He used to be in the mirror.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And in America, it's a lot more right-wing, generally, the cultural atmosphere, and so it would feel valid for him to be promoting leftism, right?
	But when he comes back over to Britain, Britain's a lot more to the left, and...
	It's everywhere, and it's anti-Britain in the establishments, in the concept, you know, the monarchy, the country, the empire, and Winston Churchill.
	And Piers is just like, no, these are like, you know, these are like the heartfelt things that he believes, and so he has to push back against them.
	That's why I think he seems reasonable when he's in Britain, and like a leftist radical when he's in America.
	It's like the communist who visits the Soviet Union, and then realizes, hang on...
	Well, like Peter Hitchens.
	Promoting communism in, you know, this country.
	But then when he visits, what it's really like is like, actually, this is terrible.
	I need to argue against it.
	Literally Peter Hitchens.
	Yeah.
	Like, literally.
	And then he becomes like an ultra-traditionalist.
	Andy D says, in the physical security field, you have something called a credible witness.
	Witnesses are treated as credible until they are proven liars.
	Meg.
	That's a great comment.
	And that's exactly the point I was making.
	It's like, look, if her perception of racism in this instance is provably wrong, why would we assume that her other perceptions of racism are not wrong?
	It's a great way of writing.
	I like that.
	It is.
	Meg.
	Witnesses treat it as credible and to the proven lies.
	Meg.
	Shut up, Meg.
	MEP Flyboy.
	Imagine being so utterly ignorant that you make Piers Morgan come across as reasonable.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	I never thought the hill I'd die on would defend Piers Morgan.
	What an embarrassing hill to die on.
	I mean, because whenever you see James Morgan against anyone else, he always looks stupid.
	I mean, the best one is probably him.
	Yeah, or him versus Voldemort.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	That one, for example.
	I mean, that's great.
	Where he's just like, well, tell me which parts of these books...
	Sorry, he's like, this book incites violence in this many times.
	And he's like, put it down, you're offending Islam.
	He's like, what?
	What do I need to do that if everything's peaceful, mate?
	Piers defaulting to Islamo-leftist mode when talking to Voldemort.
	But yeah, it's amazing.
	I never thought I'd be defending Piers Morgan.
	Tia Falspark says, The weatherman has spoken.
	There be racismus in dem here parts.
	I can feel it.
	Magic Weatherman 2021.
	I disavow that for being a racist statement.
	Are there any, like, shaman memes?
	Because that's how I imagine him, just being like, what's the racism saying today?
	Only the QAnon one.
	Rowan Alcock says, So it's skin colour that dictates whether you get called a prince or not, is it?
	Privileged white male talking here.
	I'm not up for the title either.
	And shock and horror, gasp.
	Where's my Oprah interview, you racist bigots?
	That's a good point.
	I'm a white male.
	I'm not being given a Prince title.
	Where is my Oprah interview?
	You can just contact at lotuses.com, Oprah.
	Maybe it's because you're as black as Archie.
	Even more justified.
	Even more justified.
	Maybe Oprah's a racist.
	Maybe Oprah's a racist.
	Oprah, why do you hate black men?
	Fuzzy Logic says, jokes aside, she didn't name who it was that commented on the colour of the baby.
	For all that we know, it could have been Harry who said it.
	Well, it was Harry who made the accusation, he told her.
	So she didn't even hear the conversation about the accusation.
	I appreciate the royals have their flaws, but as far as racism is concerned, let's not forget who wore the Nazi uniform all those years ago.
	Well, that's a good point.
	Back when Harry had a sense of humour, he made jokes.
	I'm not going to castigate him for it now, but I'm just shocked that they've come out and said, well, it's not the Queen or Prince Philip.
	I was like...
	Really?
	Okay.
	Prince Philip must really be sick.
	I think they only said that when they saw the reaction and then realised how popular the Queen and Prince Philip are.
	Yeah.
	Especially with him in the hospital.
	Yeah.
	Prince Philip's just got a history of baseness.
	I love it.
	You know, I looked up yesterday.
	I looked up all his most based quotes.
	They're not that bad.
	They're great.
	We should do a small thing on it.
	I'm pro.
	Pro them, to be honest.
	But they're all just like...
	The best one I thought was actually Scotland, where he's talking to a Scottish driving instructor, and he says, how do you keep the natives off the drink so long that they pass the test?
	And what was the response?
	I didn't have it.
	But like Al Jazeera are presenting this as like, look, this man's a racist, bring down the empire.
	It was like, that's just funny.
	Yeah, that's just good bands.
	I mean, the Scottish guy was like, well, it is challenging.
	A student of history says, Piers Morgan in America, and I hate every second of it.
	Piers Morgan in England, why is he semi-consistently right?
	Also, is the weatherman diviner going to call down the lightning on the racist heretics?
	Well, you can't explain how the shaman calls the lightning under a scientific worldview.
	And he's right.
	You can't explain her lived experience.
	Exactly.
	And it doesn't matter that we have facts that invalidate the lived experiences.
	None of that matters.
	The racism is in the room with us.
	Trust me.
	Alexander Drake says, Piers gets what he deserves.
	Yeah, I know.
	He is an insufferable Karen on Twitter over the China flu.
	Him getting tossed aside is delicious.
	I know, I know.
	But it's monumental.
	It's more than Piers Morgan.
	It's the last guy who even had any disagreements.
	Yeah.
	Now everyone who is left on terrestrial TV is awful.
	Yeah.
	Anyone who has parents who watch TV in Britain, get them off it.
	Get them on YouTube.
	Trust me.
	My parents are having a much better time.
	Send them our podcasts.
	Send them our clips that are on YouTube.
	Send them anything other than the mainstream.
	Because there is going to be no support for Britain as a concept on TV from here on out.
	It's all going to be negative.
	Channel 4, BBC, it was all...
	And Piers Morgan, I can't believe was the...
	Again, just the final...
	This was the fall of Constantinople, unfortunately.
	You know, embarrassingly enough, it was Piers Morgan defending the walls.
	God!
	I don't wonder when Constantinople fell.
	Sorry?
	No wonder Constantinople fell.
	Yeah, yeah, wow.
	Just the cucks left of the Empire.
	Yeah.
	No, Constantine XII, I think it was.
	He was a Chad.
	I know, I'm just joking.
	Yeah.
	Tom Rickett says, someone needs to tell Boris that the Marxism in these organizations is a feature, not a bug.
	What he's proposing is like ordering a probe to investigate claims that racists have hijacked a KKK. That's a great way of putting it.
	That is perfect.
	Racists have hijacked the KKK, says Boris.
	Or does government probe?
	Yeah, if some people can send me the man who's just started paying attention memes with Boris in them, that would be great, because I'm going to email them to Boris.
	I mean, I just did public email, but I mean, after enough of them have spanned through, maybe they'll be like, why are you doing this?
	Angel Brain says, it's the ungrateful unbridled narcissism of the neo-Marxist that stuns me.
	Everything that happened before I was born must be undone.
	History begins with me.
	Yes, and in fact, it's actually worse than that.
	It's everything in the future that isn't part of my utopian construct will also be something that has to be undone until it's perfect.
	Uh, so it's not even that it begins with me.
	It's that it doesn't even end with me.
	Uh, Alistair Crowley says, uh, until they start arresting activists, civil servants, uh, nothing, activists, civil servants, nothing is going to change.
	And I'm sick and tired of telling stupid Londoners, uh, of stupid Londoners telling me that the rainbow BLM servants are considered moderate or not politically biased.
	Uh, yeah, I mean, the civil service was 95% anti-Brexit.
	So, there you go.
	Cancer.
	Everything's cancer.
	Everything.
	Everywhere.
	If the morally impaired individuals believe that 1350 is due to racism, then shouldn't we be arbitrarily releasing male criminals or arresting females to equalize the gender quota?
	I believe the current gap is 96 male, 4% female, and it seems like we've got a long way to go.
	Yeah, there's a great set of memes going around from, like, Like the Spider-Man movies and things like this.
	But it's when one character has to ask another.
	It's like, well, you know, the police have got a systemically anti-male bias.
	And then the person's like, no, they're not anti-male.
	It's just men commit more of the crimes.
	And they're just like, yes!
	And it's like, yes, exactly.
	Exactly.
	They're just committing more of the crimes.
	Anyway...
	That hasn't loaded for me, so I'll have to skip over to the next one.
	It hasn't loaded for some reason.
	You say that, but I'm using a tablet.
	Do you want me to read it?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	More effed up nonsense this week, guys.
	One of our reps from the Detroit area came down to visit us and asked us how we were doing.
	She wanted to get a, quote, fresh opinion on the whole capital situation.
	I wouldn't have a problem with it normally but our colonel came and picked up sorry picked out people from our unit to talk to her all but one were not from her district and they only picked the people that were melanin rich you could say the one guy that was from her district was a white guy and he told sorry and he got told that if he asked a question don't answer it and let the minority answer it for him Wow the one female of
	Well, she's just been racially profiled.
	She kind of has just been picked as the diversifier.
	I mean, that's just literal racial profiling.
	And I don't seem to...
	The Biden's woke military are doing.
	Yeah, and they don't seem to care how hard she's worked to get where she is.
	It's getting worse in the military.
	They just announced that they're going to be doing minority classes only for non-white people.
	The military is literally starting to practice segregation.
	It makes me sick.
	Also, ashamed of the army and I can't wait to get out.
	I mean, literally, minority classes in which we segregate the non-whites and they have their own little...
	I mean, what would you even call that?
	I mean, that's what you do with the mentally disabled in schools, isn't it?
	You give them extra hours so they can learn more.
	Progressive.
	Very progressive.
	It's staggering.
	Just racial profiling and segregation because the minorities are dumb.
	The US military, 2021.
	I'm not surprised that her friend was crying on her bloody shoulder.
	I just want to say I'm sorry to hear it.
	I'm really sorry to hear it.
	This is the antithesis of a worldview that I would like to see.
	This is horrible.
	Why do we have to talk about race all the time, everywhere we are?
	I just hate it.
	Marcos Pires says, I'm happy the UK government wants to investigate the far left.
	Here in Portugal a few days ago, it was the Communist Party's 100-year anniversary...
	They filled for a day the largest squares in Portuguese cities with red flags and yellow sickles and hammers.
	For a while, it looked like we were in Soviet Russia.
	For pictures, search for Lisboa Partido...
	I'll let you...
	Yeah, I'll do it.
	Yeah.
	But we'll get those up because I'm sure that's horrible.
	And from our oldest ally, an alliance that goes back to the 14th century, I'm sad to hear it and I hope you guys...
	End up getting some freedom soon.
	Maybe you'll strike oil and the US will come and liberate you.
	Doug Dimidum says they had a drama hammered contest in Texas after the Charlie Hadda shooting, based when two Islamic extremists showed up to shoot people.
	To use the Texas phrase, the terrorists didn't even clear leather for the people fired back.
	I know.
	I've seen that one.
	It's so cool.
	They just turn up and they just die.
	The Texans are just like, no, not having this.
	God, I love Texas.
	And I tell you what, 10 years ago, 10 years ago, when I was sort of like lefty, I hated Texas.
	For what?
	Yeah, but they're all, because it's like, you know, they're gun-towing right-wingers, and now I'm like, yes!
	Like, I had such a good time when I went to Texas.
	All the Texans were such lovely people, and the food is amazing, and I can't even eat it now.
	Maybe if I ever go back to Texas, I'll break my keto diet with pecan pie.
	It's so good.
	Look at that.
	God.
	So, I assume we've got it up, for people who are listening.
	It's the people marching in Lisbon with communist flags, and there's loads of them, and it's really, really cringe.
	Yes.
	God, imagine doing this.
	Imagine being this guy, with a little hat there, a little Stalinist hat.
	Yeah, literally aping Stalin's fashion sense.
	Although Stalin was better dressed than this guy.
	Yeah.
	And so was Lenin.
	Cosplayers always look worse than the real thing.
	Yeah, they really do.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	Oh, it's so embarrassing.
	Anyway, I'm sorry, our Portuguese bros.
	One day you'll get some freedom.
	Good on the Texans.
	Radical Centrist God says half of that 20% of the poll said there isn't a problem, likely voted out of pity or fear.
	I'm not even kidding.
	People do irrational things when they're afraid.
	That's true.
	Macron ought to ask, what would Charlemagne do?
	More like what would Charles Martel do?
	Rachel Metz says, for atheists, you sure do invoke the name of Jesus Christ a lot.
	Well, it's just an English thing, really.
	A British thing.
	For Christ's sake.
	To be fair, I do occasionally say, you know, Allahu Akbar or Alhamdulillah.
	Allah willing, we will do this.
	Yeah, when you're not making Russian comments.
	But yeah, it's because we're a Christian country, or were a Christian country at some point.
	So, you know, it just lingers on in the lingo.
	Kayla says, Hey boys, it's my birthday.
	I'm 31 today.
	I've been dating my boyfriend for eight years now and I'm still waiting to get married and have a child.
	He says he wants to and his finances is worried about getting frustrated.
	Any advice?
	As a bit of context, we both work.
	He isn't hurting for money.
	I love that.
	I've been waiting.
	Yes.
	A bit of advice...
	I mean, it depends on his objections, really, doesn't it?
	One way of putting it is like, well, look, we've been together eight years.
	I want a family.
	And 31 is getting towards the latter era of a woman's fertility.
	And it might not last forever.
	So you could pressure him that way.
	So, look, time's not ticking for you, but it is ticking for me.
	That's true.
	This is going to sound very rude.
	I've just thought of it as a joke.
	Like, start sending him egg carton memes.
	I'm not getting any more fertile, John!
	I don't know if that'll work, but...
	Half my eggs are already gone, John!
	That's actually kind of funny.
	Like, 30-year-old women doing it to their boyfriends.
	That is hilarious.
	That's some get-back.
	Yeah, that is Stefan Molyneux's face just in his inbox every day.
	Judgmental Stephen Molyneux memes.
	No, no, no, no.
	We're not demoralizing people, John.
	That's wrong.
	So one...
	The argument of finances, I think, is a total red herring.
	It's just a convenient excuse.
	And if he's worried about it, get him to commit to a number.
	Tell me when the finances will be good enough.
	Give me a number.
	Tell me when.
	Because otherwise it makes it look like you're dodging and you don't want to have kids, you don't want to have a family, you don't want to...
	You know, move on to the next stage of your life together.
	And you, after eight years, I think it's fair for you to say, well, look, I've committed, I've invested, I deserve an answer, you know?
	So I don't think that's unfair.
	But I think the finances thing is a dodge.
	The right time, as John says, is always the right time to have children is always now.
	No, that's not true.
	No, it kind of is.
	No.
	It's always an excuse.
	You can't be, you know, 16.
	Okay.
	If you're a working adult, the right time is whenever you're ready.
	It's just whenever, you know.
	And again, like she says, we're not hurting for money.
	So it's like, okay, well then there's no real problem with finances, so he's just afraid.
	But the thing is, I think you should probably go to some lengths to point out to him, look, being a father is actually so easy, even I can do it.
	Like, anyone can do it.
	It's actually, it just requires you to not be a complete loser.
	You know, actually, if you just care, just put some effort in.
	And it's really easy.
	And you don't have to do that much.
	And she'll probably do most of the work for you, mate.
	You know, so, you know.
	And I tell you, the rewards are just out of this world, man.
	It's so great.
	Every day I get to come home and my son just runs up, Daddy, and gives me a huge hug.
	It's amazing.
	It's amazing.
	Best thing in my day is getting home from work.
	Cameron says, I had a dream last night where I was trapped in a dark room and all I could hear was Carl's voice espousing the virtues of Keto.
	I fear this vision may foretell the second coming of the Ides of March.
	Guard your bread well, Callum.
	Its days may be numbered.
	I'm actually...
	Your nightmare is my every day in the office.
	LAUGHTER I'm just saying, it's a vice, isn't it?
	Make the argument that bread isn't advice.
	Every time the camera's off, this is what it's like.
	Charlie the Beagle says, Hi, I recently learned about the ancient Roman set of principles called the Mos Malorum.
	I feel like these could be applied to dadism.
	I'm just wondering if there's something to this or not.
	You know, I'm actually not familiar with the Mos Malorum.
	I think that's how you spin it.
	Yeah, Majorum maybe.
	So I'm actually going to have to go look that up.
	So that's new to me, which surprises me.
	But I'm going to go look that up after this.
	Heathcliff says, Yesterday I got an email from the HR department at my workplace saying they will be enforcing mandatory COVID swab tests at the office.
	Today I'm responding saying I cannot consent to this as a violation of my bodily integrity.
	I might lose my job.
	The HR department is insanely zealous.
	Your Thick Concepts podcast is great and it echoes the problem I have here.
	I cannot explain scientifically why it is wrong to allow corporations to insert a six-inch swab up my nose, but morally we know it all is.
	I hate this.
	I'll keep you posted.
	Well, good luck, man.
	And again, I think the allegation that is improper to violate your bodily integrity in this way, I mean, you may even have a lawsuit that you can follow up with this on.
	I mean, I don't know, but like, good luck, you know.
	Alexander says, a friend of mine who I greatly respect recently went down the rabbit hole.
	She is generally based on most things, but when it comes to identity, she's of the opinion that all of humanity must accept how you identify because identity is a purely self-decided thing.
	How?
	How do you do that?
	What ridiculous.
	All of humanity.
	When you've got to the position where you're making rules, moral legislation for all of humanity, then you've got to realize you're wrong.
	While I myself generally respect identity, I disagree because it's Orwellian to order everyone to automatically change their perceptions, and I agree with Jordan Peterson that identity is a negotiation between the individual and society.
	I agree.
	For this, my years-long friend said that I must be silenced for my own good and the good of others.
	Well, that's just a natural corollary of what she said here.
	If all of humanity must accept how you identify, if one person is going to stand up and say, well, I disagree, then you have to be silenced, or else all of humanity isn't in agreement.
	So where else is she going to go with that?
	Not gonna lie, man, this was a years-long friend who I greatly respected.
	I haven't cried in years, but hearing that from her stung, why are all my friends being ripped away by this plague?
	Yeah, it's kind of scary, isn't it?
	Like, I mean, just imagine one of your friends saying, no, you should be silenced.
	That's a horrible thing to say.
	That is genuinely totalitarian.
	Your friend is now the sort of person that, were we to go back, like, you know, 100 years, would have been a collaborator with the Nazis.
	You should be silenced.
	Yeah, the Jews were the problem.
	It's the same thing.
	It's the same goddamn thing.
	Same moral impulse that is behind it.
	And...
	I don't know.
	It's just all the way.
	It's a good reminder about why this is evil.
	It is a great reminder of why this is evil.
	And the thing is, I don't think it's going to get any better anytime soon.
	I think things are going to get worse.
	I mean, the government's basically going to criminalize us for objecting to things.
	So, Nicholas says, I was planning to listen to the Thick podcast, but then my PC fatally crashed and took me a day to understand what happened and how to fix it.
	I'll listen to it today as I was waiting so long for it.
	I'm sure it's worth it.
	Speaking of PCs, how's John's new computer acquisition going?
	We're waiting on a part.
	Yeah, we're waiting on a part, apparently.
	But when we get it, I imagine we'll be able to get a very nice one and do some nice things that we couldn't do before.
	That oil guy says, I've been enjoying watching the feminist meltdown this week over the US's new Equality Act.
	They're upset at losing single-sex spaces.
	Yes, they are.
	Welcome to Equality, girls.
	The example they use for this being bad is that a male teacher should not be allowed to supervise girls in the shower.
	The implication being that the man could be sexually interested in the girls by their own logic.
	Lesbian teachers must not be allowed to supervise them either.
	Well...
	I actually agree with that.
	Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with that, to be honest.
	I mean, this is all in the aid of trying to stop pedos.
	Yeah.
	And if you have an interest in that gender, then you shouldn't be supervising the younglings of that gender, ideally.
	Yeah.
	I mean, one would think, but that would be in a sane world where we didn't allow this sort of thing.
	I mean, I shared a thing to my Facebook page the other day.
	This is a picture of this giant man and a bunch of 12-year-old girls who are all on the same basketball team.
	I was just saying, look, future generations are going to look back and wonder why this level of unfairness was allowed.
	I don't care about the ideological, and again, this is why the Thick Concepts podcast is so important, because it allows you to realize that actually I can just reframe this in different terms that have moral connotation built into them as they describe the situation.
	So is it fair that a 6'5", 45-year-old man plays on the girls' basketball team?
	No!
	It's not fair.
	And so it doesn't even matter what your ideological justification for this is.
	You, as a giant human, don't get to play with the 12-year-old girls.
	It's not fair.
	End of story.
	And then, what are you going to say?
	That is fair?
	Of course that's not fair.
	No one's going to agree that that's fair.
	And this is a way of, frankly, canceling out what they're doing.
	Joe Pascal says, Do we know when the Brave New World Book Club is coming out?
	I'm stuck into it and it'd be helpful to know how long I've got.
	Probably a few weeks yet because we've got another follow-up podcast, the Thick Concepts Podcast, because I want to be able to adequately explain in clear terms that I have already defined all of the layers of meaning that are going on in Brave New World.
	There are absolutely loads of them.
	I really need to read more about Huxley because he's really a man ahead of his time there.
	And the only thing he was kind of behind on was the idea that humans would still have a social life in the far-flung scientific future because obviously the internet didn't exist.
	So we didn't realize that actually we could get all of the social interactions we needed from social media.
	and so we would actually be happy just being stuck in houses and in our pods on our own, eating the bugs and drinking the fecal water.
	But otherwise, he was pretty prophetic.
	Brandon Baker says, we have to decolonize weather shamanism in order to understand how he's going to call down the lightning.
	Yes, we do.
	Spain has four vice-presidents.
	What?
	Is that for like the separate regions?
	I have no idea, but that's amusing.
	On a previous podcast, I asked about how much a country should tolerate separatist movements, and I didn't get an answer in the end.
	That's because we don't really have an answer.
	I mean...
	How do you feel about it?
	Tolerate separatist movements.
	Depends what they're doing.
	I mean, if they're acting democratically and they're not being unreasonable, if they're saying, look, we just think that we deserve independence, we're happy to hold a referendum on it and respect the results of it, then, you know, okay.
	I mean, what are you meant to do?
	Oppose that?
	Like, if they don't want to be in the country anymore...
	What are you going to do?
	Hold them against their will if they do want to leave?
	But then it opens the door to anything being separated, right?
	So, I mean, we could have a Swindon separatist movement.
	We would secede from the UK. But the hope there is obviously that the people of Swindon aren't that stupid.
	Well, I mean, I think it sounds like a good idea.
	What are you talking about?
	The Independent Republic of Swindon?
	Okay.
	Shut up.
	We're just stupid enough.
	Just because you'll be king.
	I know, I'll be president.
	Philosopher king of Swindon.
	No, they'd never like me.
	But...
	But, I mean, you know, it's a complex question.
	I'm not going to give, like, a perfect answer or anything.
	But if they're being terroristic, if they're being completely unreasonable, if they're demanding that they lost the referendum and insist on another one the day after, Nicola, it looks pathetic, and therefore it should kind of just be ignored or subdued.
	It looks illegitimate.
	But he says, nevertheless, you were spot on with the observation that all these movements in Europe have weird blood-and-soil views alongside their diversity and inclusivity messaging.
	One separatist leader unironically spoke of superior Catalonian genes.
	Oh, man.
	Come on now.
	Come on now.
	In Spain.
	I don't understand why all of these movements exist.
	I just want to be under the boot of the EU after seceding.
	Thanks for always this work.
	You guys are very inspiring.
	Thank you.
	Honestly, I think it's the fact that the socialists can easily come in national and international flavours, that the pretense that the national socialists don't really exist is just not true.
	They do exist.
	And it's so easy to flip over.
	I've talked about beefsteak Nazis before.
	Google it.
	It's great.
	But in the book you've given me, there's a great section there in which there's an interview.
	I think it's an Englishman.
	He's visiting Germany.
	And he goes into some town and says, oh, I need a place to stay.
	And they're like, yeah, sure, come with us.
	You can stay in our place.
	And they have like a shrine to Hitler.
	And he's like, this is weird.
	They're like, oh, that's a funny story.
	Two weeks ago, that was Lenin.
	What?
	They were literally red communists and then they got arrested and were beaten up by the SA. And the SA were like, come on, stop being cucks.
	And they were literally like, yeah, okay, fair enough.
	I'll join the fascists.
	Well, you see a lot of this now.
	Kraut was posting on Twitter how a bunch of leftists were coming to him and complaining that they're blocked from his Discord.
	And so he looked them up.
	And what they were, they used to be alt-righters who had now gone over to Vorsch, and now they were trying to get into his community.
	And he was like, no, you're not coming in.
	Sensibly so.
	Because the liberals shouldn't be taking in these people.
	But again, this old history.
	They'll just go for whichever one's the most powerful, the international or national socialists, whatever's easier.
	Exactly.
	Whatever the zeitgeist support, they're going to go towards.
	Because they want some kind of socialism.
	And this is how you get the Labour Party endorsing the IRA. I mean, what is the IRA's claim to Northern Ireland?
	It's not based off referendums or because of mutual trust or civic politics.
	It's because, well, it's because it's Irish land and Irish blood.
	It's like, okay, well, then you're just terrorists.
	Get in the chamber.
	Yeah.
	How are you not national socialists?
	Yeah.
	Unrelated to content, this podcast goes on an 8am EST, so it's forcing me to keep a reasonable sleep schedule in this work-from-home hellscape.
	See, we're doing a service.
	And honestly, that's one of the reasons I wanted to set this office up in the first place, so I wouldn't just be up until like 4 in the morning.
	Every day.
	There was one time, I'd stayed up, it must have been until like 6 o'clock or something, not thinking about it.
	And so I went upstairs to go to bed.
	And my son had woken up to go to the toilet, and he was just like, Daddy, you missed the night.
	And I'm like, that's a good point, you know?
	So, you know, it seems useful to keep structuring your life and keep ordering your life and have a regular schedule, and we are glad to be a part of that.
	Right, last question.
	Hey Carl, I think it'd be worth your time to do a review of the movie The World's End by Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright.
	It dwells on modern society, those it leaves behind, as well as the effect it has on those who dwell in it.
	I think a Starship Troopers-level analysis of its morals and ideas would be very interesting.
	We have a book club, now give us a film club.
	Well, I don't have time to do a film club and a book club at the same time, at least at the moment.
	You've got two.
	Politics of Starship Troopers and Politics of Demolition Man.
	Yeah, I know, but they were before we did a daily podcast.
	I mean, if you want something like that, I mean, that's there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I would like...
	I would like to do a film club thing at some point.
	I properly edited videos like I used to do.
	I just don't have time at the moment.
	But we are, incidentally, if you happen to be a video content creator and you would like to make video content from us and work from the Swindon office, if this is within your capacity and you think you'd be good at it, do email us.
	And in fact, go to careers, lotuses.com slash careers and contact us because we are looking to hire.
	Because despite the fact, I mean, do you see the Huffington Post is like laying off 47 people?
	Not just that, they shut down the Canada division and the Indian division went last month.
	Yeah.
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	It's all amazing stuff.
	But I would say that, wouldn't I? I'm the one making it.
	Prove us wrong.
	Sign up and check it out.
	Yeah, yeah.
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