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March 3, 2021 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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Good afternoon folks.
Sorry we're late.
We had a bit of a backlog of things that we had to do before we could get started, but welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Wednesday, the 3rd of March 2021.
You may be wondering where we have been, and the answer to that is we accrued the ire of Sauron.
And got a strike for reporting on something that the Republicans had done.
It was a press conference about a subject they were not allowed to mention, apparently, on YouTube.
And this apparently got us a strike, and YouTube rejected our appeal that we were just saying it happened.
We weren't endorsing what they were saying, and that was enough, so we were off for a week.
But we were streaming the whole time to the website, ludicies.com, and...
We're really enjoying it, actually.
It was actually quite nice to not have to worry continuously that we were going to say something live that YouTube had created a strict editorial policy around.
And so what we're thinking of doing is making this actually the last YouTube livestream broadcast that we do, livestreaming to the website as usual and then uploading the clips with a link to the full podcast.
So you can watch the segments on YouTube if you want.
And if you want to watch the full thing, you can always just go into the description, click the link and follow it to the website where you can watch the whole uncensored podcast.
Because unfortunately, that's what it seems to have come to.
We actually have to just, well, self-censor if we want to use YouTube.
And we don't want to use YouTube because all you guys use YouTube.
So we're kind of required.
We miss out on things like Super Chats and things like that, but that's fine because obviously we've got people who've signed up on Lotuses.com and can leave their comments and send us video comments, which incidentally we don't actually have time to do today.
And in fact, I'm already talking too long because we've got loads to cover today because a lot of stuff is going on.
So, quick thing.
We've got a new article on the birth of Ralston College, up on Lotuses.com, by Hannah Gall.
And this is fantastic news.
This is a nice white pill for people who have been getting a bit black-pilled by the culture war.
This is a new college based in Savannah, in Georgia, that has been granted degree-granting powers that will offer degrees in philosophy, arts, economics, natural science, religion, and politics.
And you might be thinking, well...
Why are you promoting just some rando university in America?
And it's because the college president, Stephen Blackwood, said this.
The long march through the institutions was a neo-Marxist strategic plan.
The amazing thing is how completely they pulled it off.
Universities are the water main that is distributing a worldview that is corrosive of what is best in a human being.
It's an explicitly anti-woke university.
The first one that I'm aware of.
And so it's a genuine pleasure that Hannah has provided us with an excellent article discussing how it came to be and what it's going to be doing.
And I thought that maybe you might want to know about it.
You might want to tell other people about it.
It would be nice if this became a big famous success story that actually you can run an institution in a way that isn't detrimental to the human condition.
Anyway...
Let's talk about Andrew Cuomo, because it's not going well for Andrew Cuomo.
You know who Andrew Cuomo is, right?
Freddo.
No, no, Freddo's brother.
Oh, Freddo's brother.
Freddo's brother.
Although, maybe we need to stop with the F words, because it's like the N word for his people, remember?
Apparently it is now.
That's what we hear.
So, Cuomo's had quite a long history in politics, really, in the 90s.
He was the Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Community Planning and Development, and then he became the 11th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development under, was it Bill Clinton?
I think it was Clinton.
And then he became the 64th Attorney General of New York, and he's been the Governor of New York State since 2011.
So, he's a long-time politician.
It's been his entire professional career.
And he's something of a hero.
He, last year, saved a man from a car crash in what was totally an honest thing.
I'm sure it was.
The footage was given to us by one of his staffers who recorded it on his cell phone, where Cuomo was just saving the guy and pulling him out of a van that had been overturned.
So that's wonderful.
So he's a heroic politician who gets to say the N-word live on the radio.
Not even joking.
Let's play the clip.
Governor Cuomo stuns listeners by dropping the n-word.
Pardon my language, but I'm just quoting the Times.
I don't know why I found that so funny.
Pardon my language, I'm just quoting the Times.
Just, why say it?
I mean, it's a quote.
It's a quote, and he manages to get away with...
It was in the context, in fact, of the Freddo smear.
The F smear, sorry.
We've got too many F smears now.
Because this, obviously, he was saying, well, this was applied to Italians when Italians first came over, so we're victims too.
It's like, right, okay, Mr.
Multimillionaire politician, you're the victim.
But anyway, let's get into his political career in the last couple of years, because it's been an interesting rollercoaster, and I think the rollercoaster ride is coming to an end.
So back in 2018, things weren't going great in New York, and he hiked up, obviously.
Sorry, I just saw in the chat, Cuomo for Republican frontrunner 2024.
So in 2018, there was a property tax hike in New York, and this is where things, I think, the first major indicator that things were not going well in New York.
It's actually quite staggering how much he raised property taxes by.
So those making $5,200,000 annually usually had 3.4% property tax, and he upped it to 5.4% property tax.
And then those on $100,000 to $250,000 went from $2.4 to $3.7.
So he's disproportionately taxing like the middle class, but everyone gets this huge increase.
This is the largest share of New York's tax revenue, which was $12.7 billion in 2005, and is now $24.1 billion in 2016.
So you can see he's literally doubled the amount of tax that people have to pay on property taxes.
And this, in 2019, caused New York's population to shrink for what I believe is probably the first time ever.
The fact that such a prestigious place as New York could end up with a declining population is quite staggering.
And obviously it mirrors California and Portland in the same sort of Democrat policies, frankly.
In New York and the surrounding areas, the number of people living in New York dropped by 48,000, which was a 0.25% decline, of course, where they normally have population growth.
And the nation as a whole witnessed 0.6% population growth.
And so it was obvious that the wealthy were leaving because they could.
And so on their way out, Cuomo was like, okay, we're going to have an exit audit on you.
If you leave New York State, you get to be audited and we're going to try and grab some cash off you.
This was, of course, blamed on Donald Trump, but it was him doing it.
So, I mean, it's kind of weird that he would do that.
And by 2020, it was clear that he had driven New York's finances straight into the ground.
In January, he was facing a growing budget mess, as the New York Post reports, with a shocking $6.1 billion deficit in the state's finances.
This was pretty bad, obviously.
That's 6% of their $102 billion budget, and more than half the gap was linked to a dramatic rise in the state's Medicaid costs.
$4 billion of that gap was because they had increased the amount of social welfare that was being provided, specifically answering the Medicaid thing.
And so in an effort to patch the hole, remember this is January 2020, Cuomo is considering slashing payments to hospitals and nursing homes in the current budget and perhaps next year.
Now put a pin in the nursing home budget that Cuomo is having a problem with because it's very interesting and this is going to come up later.
So anyway.
Again, in January 2020, Cuomo released this.
This amazing poster.
If we can get it up, there we go.
New York State, the progressive capital, Andrew Cuomo.
You can see a tolerance, leadership, accomplishment over the sea of division.
Leading the way!
Into hell.
What the hell is he doing?
We're not even going to talk about the crime rates in New York in this.
We're just going to be talking about how he's mismanaged the financial side, right?
But Cuomo's New York is leading the way in progressive politics.
And I believe it.
I totally believe it.
I agree completely.
And another weird thing that happened in January in 2020 is there was just a weird flu spike.
Again, this is before the coronavirus.
Just this weird flu spike of 33,000 cases of flu recorded in New York.
Had to activate an emergency system.
Just weird.
Just...
Just weird.
Anyway, by August 2020, he's actually begging the rich to stay.
He says, I literally talk to people all day long who are now in the Hamptons house and who lived here on the Hudson Valley house and the Connecticut weekend house.
I say, you've got to come back.
We'll go to dinner.
I'll buy you a drink.
Come over.
I'll cook.
And they're probably like, Andrew, you are taxing me into the poorhouse.
I'm not going to dinner with you.
And he says they're not coming back right now.
I don't know.
And you know what else they're thinking?
If I stay here, I'll pay lower income tax.
Because they don't pay the New York City surcharge.
Noting that the wealthiest 1% of the Empire State's population picks up 50% of the state's tax burden.
So the people...
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Raising taxes on the middle class, not good.
But the rich are paying half of the tax income on property or whatever else in New York.
And so he's essentially just...
Chasing everyone out by just going after their money.
And if they leave, he goes after more money.
And of course, he blames Trump for all of this, right?
So the Fox article is very good.
New York State is facing a 2.3 billion budget deficit.
Well, that was previously.
That was in 2019.
It got worse.
In 2020, it was 6 billion.
But before that number was released, they've got the wrong one.
Cuomo believes it's largely due to the Trump administration's tax reforms, which, on the flip side, have taxed the rich and may be encouraging wealthy residents to leave.
So Trump actually didn't help the rich out when it comes to these tax reforms.
He's like, wait, you can't do this, even though it's literally been his mantra.
He's been pounding the table progressively.
Like, we need to tax the rich, tax the rich.
It's like, okay, we'll tax the rich.
Oh, you can't do that.
They're all leaving.
This was the complaint about the tax cuts.
The tax cuts were on the middle class.
No, not really.
The tax cuts were actually kind of disproportionately on the rich.
I mean, they were on the middle class as well, but they affected the rich more because obviously they've got more money.
The tax cuts, not tax increases.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I saw Ben Shapiro going over this because he was saying, like, well, I'm actually getting screwed by all this because he makes a lot of money.
But all of his employees were actually getting tax cuts.
Well, I'll get to that because Ben Shapiro...
lives in california okay uh the the tax cuts uh which took effect in 2018 place a cap on the state and local tax deductions that americans can take which meant that residents of largely blue states with relatively high states and local taxes are adversely affected whereas of course this doesn't really bother republicans and republican states who pay generally lower taxes anyway because republicans are sane people who don't hate the rich and so what this
uh what this has meant is that people in blue states like ben shapiro and people in new york have been absolutely screwed whereas people everywhere else and it's not even like blue states it's like deep blue states everyone everywhere else has actually done quite well out of it It's like, well, you get what you deserve.
But even though, even though Cuomo is obvious, and I should have brought in the crime statistics, but I just didn't have time, you know, the peaking of crime because Cuomo's basically soft on it.
But his approval rating keeps rising for some reason.
Now, this is amazing, right?
Cuomo's approval rating peaked at 74%, according to Quinnipiac polls.
As you can see, back in, what was that?
Middle of the year, so over the summer, right?
It's hard with the American dates because for some reason Americans do their dates back to front.
And at the moment it averages about 50% approved, 40% disapproved.
It's pretty good still, to be honest, all things considered.
And this, of course, was a consequence of his praise, the praise heaped upon him for We're good to go.
And so this leads into him shutting New York down.
So, I mean, economically, everything's going quite badly anyway.
Having a shutdown of everything, apart from non-essential businesses, isn't exactly going to help.
He ordered everything to shut down, and he said, I want to be able to say to the people of New York, I did everything we could, and if everything we do just saves one life, I'll be happy.
Again, put a pin in that, just under the pin of Cuomo needs to reduce the amount of money that goes into nursing homes.
So we're about to get to it.
The restrictions took effect and shut down all non-essential businesses across the state, leaving just grocery stores, pharmacies and other essential businesses open.
All non-solitary outside activities were also banned.
So I was like, okay, this is nice.
And this tyranny that he put New York under was very attractive to many ladies.
Made him very popular with them.
And hashtag CuomoSexual was trending all over Twitter and everywhere else.
And there were lots of women.
We can get the next one up, John.
There was a song made about how wonderful and adorable this Sicilian mobster is.
Okay?
I mean, I'd not want to judge what people like.
It's 62-year-old tyrant.
If that's what gets your juices flowing, that's what gets your juices flowing.
This called New York Magazine to call Cuomo the king of New York, because really, he kind of was.
He had accrued to himself massive amounts of power.
Most New Yorkers, despite everything wrong that he had done, felt that Cuomo had done a commendable and by some measures miraculous job of bringing New York back from the brink.
Back from the brink of what?
Success?
Like, being a good place to live?
I don't even know what they think was going to happen.
But of course, the media narratives pump it into everyone's heads, everyone's about to die, blah, blah, blah.
So, well, I love the way they put this.
While Joe Biden played possum in his bunker and Trump, in spite of the carnage, maintained some viable wedge of support in the polls, Cuomo was all over TV in his crisis-time white polo shirt and furrowed brow.
And he kept going on about how, basically...
The coronavirus came from Europe and not China, and so that's blah.
But yeah, anyway, whatever.
But we've got a list from Polisco about all of the things that he did.
And I'm not going to go through them since we just don't have time.
But if we can go to the next one, John, he's the tyrant of New York, which is incredible, really.
Thanks in large part to a statutory change in the legislature approved, which the legislature approved at the beginning of March, Cuomo's declaration means he can change and suspend laws unilaterally so long as he does so in assisting the state in its disaster response.
So he has got absolute power in New York as long as he can claim, and I suppose plausibly, that he was doing it for the coronavirus.
And so this led to him just, if you can just scroll down, you see the categories, like education, healthcare, elections, keep going, like general government, it's like everywhere, health, medical facilities, all this sort of stuff, right?
And so everywhere, Cuomo's arbitrary power was touching.
It's like, wow, that's amazing.
And in the New Yorker piece, they're like, well, he's always been a bit of a tyrant.
He's always inclined towards autocracy.
It's like, yeah.
And so the coronavirus gave him the perfect cover in which to continue to sort of essentially create the dictatorship of New York, which is very interesting, I think.
Anyway, so, remember how we were talking about how Cuomo needs to reduce the amount of money being spent on nursing homes?
And how we need to do something about this coronavirus?
Well, what we can do is send 6,300 coronavirus patients to vulnerable nursing homes during the height of the pandemic, which he did in July 2020.
I think we're killing two birds with one stone here, aren't we, Cuomo?
Is this using your noggin, this, mate?
The transfers were made under a now scrapped, highly criticised policy that barred nursing homes from refusing to take in COVID-19 patients, a directive from the Cuomo administration intending to free up hospital beds for the sickest patients.
And when in August people were like, you know what, maybe we need to have a bit of an investigation into this, maybe an independent investigation, Cuomo's like, no, I'm going to prevent that from happening.
We'll go to the next one, John.
I wouldn't do an investigation, he told reporters in a conference.
Despite the bipartisan support for the probe in Albany, the Democrat governor continued to insist the calls for accountability are politically motivated.
I think you'd have to be blind to think it's not political.
Just look at where it comes from.
Look at the sources.
Look at their political affiliation.
Look at what publications raise it and what media networks raise it.
It's kind of incredible.
Yeah, it is kind of incredible that literally every left-wing media outlet has refused to comment or publish or anything like that on this story until, well, until fairly recently, actually.
But at the time, they wouldn't talk about it.
And it was just places like the New York Post or the Washington Examiner or, you know, right-wing sites that would talk about this.
And so he could just mark this off as being, no, the only concern is political.
It's like, no, it's the wrong way around.
You've got it entirely reversed.
The partisanship is on your side and the people who are partisan on the other side are still obligated to raise this thing.
And the problem is the deficit from your own side who should also be raising this.
Especially as it turned out that the death toll was somewhere around the region of 15,000 people died because of him putting these coronavirus patients in nursing homes.
And he has now, come February this year, last month, is going to be facing a federal inquiry into this.
The Democratic leaders of New York State Senate are moving to strip him of his unilateral emergency powers, which is good.
And this comes as the FBI and the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York have opened an inquiry into the Cuomo administration's handling of the nursing homes during the pandemic.
So it looks like Cuomo is kind of teetering on the edge here, because I don't see how they could find him anything other than criminally negligent, at best, and possibly trying to solve his budget problem at worst, which is pretty awful.
But I guess, on the plus side, at least he's not being Me Too'd, right?
I mean, Me Too's a joke, as he was joking about, if we can play the clip.
And earlier this year, you made a Me Too joke, as an aide asked reporters to give him space.
I'll bring you all up on charges under the MeToo movement.
Well, that didn't last long because he did actually get MeToo'd.
Two women recently came out and accused him of sexual assault.
Former aide Lindsay Boylan in December, she said that he subjected her to an unwanted kiss and made comments about her appearance, which Cuomo has denied.
And another former aide, Charlotte Bennett, these are women in their 20s, also accused him of sexual harassment, saying in the New York Times that he had asked her about her sex life, including whether she had ever had sex with older men, and made comments that she interpreted as assessing her interest in an affair, and Cuomo said, no, I was just trying to mentor her.
Mentoring to what?
His bedroom, I guess.
I mean, a third woman, of course, has now stepped forward.
What was her name?
Sorry, why can't I find it?
I don't know.
Why can't I find her name?
I don't know who this third...
Oh, I don't know who this third accuser's name is.
I thought I had it, but apparently I don't.
Oh, no, Anna Roach.
Anna Roach, there we are.
Speaking with the New York Times, described how he had apparently put his hands on her bare lower back at a wedding, asked if he could kiss her, and called her aggressive when she removed his hands from her body.
I was so confused and shocked and embarrassed.
Yes, well, I mean, I don't think that's something that is actually going to be something anyone can act on, but anyway, what are you going to do?
Republicans have been hypocritically calling Cuomo to resign.
Again, it's just partisan because the left-wing media is just on their side.
Democrats have been largely more circumspect.
The response has largely been for a call for investigation, not immediate resignation.
Michelle Goldberg of the New York Times interpreted the response to this evidence as the power of the MeToo movement having been weakened, especially in light of tremendous bitterness towards those who pressured Al Franken to leave the Senate in 2018 after he was accused of grabbing several women's butts.
She also points out that many Democrats are sick of holding themselves to a set of standards that Republicans feel no need to try and meet.
Do they not?
It seems the Republican standards are way higher.
The first person that comes to mind is Mike Pence.
Yep.
The man who's like, I won't have dinner with another woman.
Yep.
For the very risk of rumours of impropriety.
And the Democrats are like, well, the Republicans just don't meet our standards.
Dude, your standards are so low that you actually need a social...
Like, the Me Too movement.
Can you name a Republican that they have accused?
I mean, maybe Donald Trump with the...
Oh, okay, yeah.
Fine.
But it's so broad.
Donald Trump aside, because Donald Trump is kind of a special case, like, name, like, a Republican politician who's being accused by me too.
Ted Cruz?
Josh Hawley?
Like, these are, you know, like...
What's his name?
DeSantis from Florida?
Where are the accusations?
And then we come to the non-political accusations of Me Too.
Who is it?
Harvey Weinstein.
A bunch of actors.
Kevin Spacey.
People like that.
Bill Clinton.
All of these...
Left-wing, Democrat voting people are the ones being accused.
Where are the Republicans who have suffered because of Me Too?
It's all Democrats.
It comes from the Hollywood industry.
That's where this movement comes from.
Not exactly right-wing.
This thing, it's all left-wing.
And then Michelle Goldberg, well, Republicans feel no...
No obligation to meet these standards.
You don't know what Republicans think, I think.
But yeah, so it's not going brilliantly for Cuomo.
The king is teetering on his throne, and I can't imagine he's going to last much more.
Because there are lots of different points of pressure that are being put on him.
I mean, I can't see him lasting it.
Do you think he's resigning, or is he...
I probably would if I were him.
I mean, the nursing home thing, assuming a resignation could get him some sort of immunity...
I mean, causing the deaths of 6,000 to 15,000 people, not great.
No, not great.
I mean, this is not like, oh, the virus came here and, you know, this isn't my fault.
But if you were not in charge of sending those people back, yeah, I mean, I feel bad.
Especially when prior to this you were like, okay, I've got a massive hole in my budget because of these nursing homes.
I mean, well, no, no, we're going to make you take COVID patients.
Well, that's really dangerous for the old people.
Yeah, we know.
Like, we all knew.
Everyone knew.
So, and then you've got all these meatail allegations, and then you've just got the general shoddy state of the fact that New York's falling apart.
I mean, even if he doesn't resign, are people going to vote?
Well, I mean, maybe they will vote for him again.
He's still got a 50% approval rating, somehow.
But I would expect that to dip quite significantly in the next couple of weeks.
Because I don't think these allegations are going away.
They just keep coming out.
Things are going to keep getting worse, I think.
Fingers crossed.
Anyway, yeah.
So the thing I wanted to talk about was this documentary that the BBC's been producing.
So my dad sent me a clip, I think it was last night, where he just saw this on TV and was like, oh, how the hell is this being produced?
Because it's just race propaganda and we'll get into it because it's not surprising the BBC would produce such a thing.
But this, let's just call it like mini-documentary, it's like an hour long of him exploring, why is COVID killing people of colour?
And you'll notice the American phrase, people of colour, that no Englishman uses.
Yes.
We would use blacks or...
BAME. BAME or something like this, if you want to be politically correct.
Or you would just call it blacks, Asians, you know, so on and so forth, right?
You wouldn't use people of colour.
It's not in British parlance.
But he wants to find out, and it is a thing that has been taking place.
So, I mean, the fact that people who have brown skin, let's say, because to be honest, I think that's an easier way of putting it as well.
Sounds less like I'm trying to chug garbage water or something.
Like, it doesn't sound like English people of colour.
Yeah, no, it's awful.
So I'm just going to say people with brown skin instead.
So this is the first clip I want to play, which is him going to an area...
Maybe he was just saying non-white, just to...
I don't know.
It's a minefield.
I'm just going to use brown skin because it's what Magic Now has used us.
Oh, okay.
I think it's fine.
Yeah, that's fine.
So this is the first clip of him going somewhere and trying to find out what's going on.
This is Church End in the borough of Brent, northwest London.
In this small neighborhood, 36 people lost their lives to COVID during the first wave of the pandemic.
A death rate five times the national average.
Almost 65% of the population in Brent are of Black African, Afro-Caribbean, Pakistani, Bangladeshi or other minority ethnic origin.
65%.
How long has this market been here, Mahat?
Oh, over 20 years.
You really see the diversity here.
Everybody's here.
Africans, Caribbean, Asians.
Everybody come to this market to sell their wares, you know?
When I became aware of the news reports that this was seen to be taking a disproportionate collateral damage on black and ethnic minorities, you know, I got worried because, you know, I suddenly thought, well, what's the reason behind that?
The initial phase, it was very much just a wall footing where you just kind of dealt with the patients in front of you.
But it was a gradual realisation as you walked around the ITU and just looked at the vast numbers of patients here that largely it wasn't the white population who were getting COVID. Wow.
Also, we noticed that the people we tended to admit with COVID tended to have one or two comorbidities.
Not significant comorbidities, high blood pressure, diabetes.
And from our point of view, they were relatively well patients and they were being admitted to intensive care acutely unwell and fighting for their lives.
So I just find that interesting.
I mean, first, there's an area called Brent, in which 65% of the population are brown-skinned, because I don't want to use this weird parlance of people of colour.
And then the doctor at the local hospital says, well, the most people we brought in who were severe all had brown skin.
And I was like, well, I mean, that wouldn't make sense if over the majority, sorry, over the, what would you call it?
Majority?
Yeah, it's more than the majority have brown skin.
Well, yeah, okay, well, I don't know what the surprise is there.
Nearly two-thirds.
And saying that the people who went to the ICU were those who had comorbidities.
So it's people who have, I don't know what to call it, already illnesses?
Well, people who aren't in exactly great shape.
Existing conditions.
People who are overweight, have diabetes, smoke too much, drink too much, whatever it is.
And that seems, I mean, I would have just ended the documentary there, to be honest, to be like, right, well, I went to an area in which is mostly brown people, went in, they said, yeah, it's because people are, you know, have existing conditions.
Can't take care of themselves.
Yeah, and then that would have been it.
You know, we have an authority from the hospital.
What else do you have to say?
He's like, no, no, no, I wonder what is really going on.
And he asked, how could a virus discriminate like this?
Just as a quick thing before we go on, that market thing has kind of annoyed me.
It's like, oh, this market's been here for 20 years.
Yeah, about four or five years after Tony Blair came to power.
And then suddenly mass immigration begins.
And that area is 65%.
So in 20 years, Tony Blair's mass immigration policy has totally changed the demographic makeup of that area.
Did that seem like an English market?
No, of course not.
Because English markets do exist.
Yeah, of course they do.
I know.
I mean, we live in the West Country.
We know what English markets are like.
But just for any people who haven't been to England.
Yeah, they're not the same.
And it's just such a strikingly obvious example of how Tony Blair's immigration policy has just completely changed how Britain is.
Yeah.
But I want to play this clip.
This is just him saying, how could a virus discriminate this in the response to being told how it does?
The fact that so many seriously ill COVID patients here were black or Asian and also had comorbidities or underlying health conditions is really scary because that's me.
How could an illness discriminate like this?
You obviously don't have diabetes.
No, he does have some existing conditions.
Well, does he, right?
But he's just like, this is so interesting because it's me.
And I was like, yeah, of course, that's why you're interested in it.
But I mean, he has some fairly good health.
But then at the end, you talked over it, but he's saying, how could a virus discriminate like this?
I was like, it doesn't.
It doesn't, mate.
It just acts as it does because it's a virus.
It affects everyone, and it depends on what you're personally like.
So if you're in good condition, you're not...
I don't know, smoking, drinking, and very overweight, you'll probably be alright.
Yeah, and he spends the rest of the documentary essentially being told this over and over again, where it's just different people who have got the hard data.
I cut out a bunch of stuff where he's talking to random people or to his subjective viewpoint or their subjective viewpoint, because I don't think that's very useful.
I watched Trevor Phillips on Trigonometry, shout out, because that was an amazing episode, and the way he goes at things is just look at the hard data and then make your views on it, which I think is right.
So then it's just people giving him hard data on this.
So this is just the first one here, showing that BAME people make up a higher percentage of ICU and mortality within ICUs.
So if we look at the table that they've got up there, you'll see that 86% of the population in England and Wales are considered white, which means that the remaining 14% are people of colour like you and me.
So from that, you'd expect that the people who are going to be hardest hit are going to be white people, right?
And yet, during the first wave, people of colour accounted for 34% of all patients admitted to intensive care, which is more than twice what you'd expect.
And we know that the people who are entering ICU units are the most serious cases, right?
Absolutely.
So it would say that not only are the numbers disproportionate, but the effects of COVID are disproportionately affecting people of colour.
Absolutely.
It's hitting us hardest.
The ONS also looked at whether your ethnicity put you at greater risk of dying from COVID than a white person of the same age.
And if you look at this next graph, what you'll see is that the results are actually quite staggering because it's showing you that it's not white people who are most at risk of dying from COVID-19.
So the white population there, right at the bottom.
Now, to me, this graph is bad news for people like you and me.
I'm of Indian origin.
So, if you look at where I'm on the graph, I'm twice as likely to die from COVID as my white friends.
And if I look at this graph, I'm three times more likely to die of COVID. So this is just hard data showing that people who have brown skin are different percentages of morbidity and also the people who make it into the ICUs.
So it's not that white people aren't catching it.
What they're arguing here is that everyone's catching it, but those who end up in hospitals disproportionately seem to be those who have brown skin.
I just despise hearing people with such posh accents try to pretend like they're an oppressed minority.
Yeah, it's really weird, isn't it?
Yeah, you're not oppressed.
I mean, if you've got an accent like that, you were privileged, so shut up.
Like, this guy's a famous actor in the UK, running a show for the BBC. I mean, that woman's accent was sublime, absolutely crisp.
I wonder when she went to university.
Yeah.
But you've wondered about this, and a lot of people have been wondering about this.
Well, it could be one of the reasons to be vitamin D. And he goes to Queen Mary Hospital, and they confirm, yeah, we're actually, this isn't just press rumours.
Like, we are looking at whether or not, because you have darker pigment, therefore you're not getting enough sunshine in the winter years, and so forth.
Well, I saw one study that showed that apparently sub-Saharan Africans had 50% lower vitamin D levels in Britain than the average white English person.
And presumably that is because of the geographic location of England.
Yeah, and this isn't just some, you know, daily mail or internet thing.
The people at Queen Mary's University are confirming that they are looking into their social support.
What we're trying to do here at Queen Mary is find out whether vitamin D supplementation can boost immunity to respiratory viruses and bacteria.
One virus in particular we're interested in, of course, is SARS-CoV-2, the cause of COVID-19.
So that's essentially where the sort of rumour came in that it was vitamin D that was sort of a vitamin D deficiency that was the cause of COVID having such an impact in the black community.
Well, I don't think it's likely that vitamin D is going to be the single cause.
At best, it's going to be one part of the puzzle.
And it's a complex puzzle with a whole load of biological and social factors mixing in to cause those effects.
I mean, already we're running into a problem here.
People looking at things like, what's the single cause?
It's like, okay, no.
It's not how this works.
There's going to be a bunch of things that add up.
But he's looking for a single cause.
And the thing is that one of the things, the contributing factors that was probably true, in my opinion, is the difference in sort of family life.
You get many generations in a single household.
COVID spreads to older people who are more vulnerable to it easily, and if they're, I don't know, covered up, or if they have dark skin, so they have lower amount of vitamin D, and so lower immune response to it, like they're saying.
You've got all of these sort of, like, factors that add up, and then if you add in, like, I hate to say it, but the Afro-Caribbean community in Britain is the most obese community in Britain, if you look at the data.
They've got the highest rates there, and it's, again...
Yeah, it's that sort of thing.
So the next thing here is sort of what you're talking about.
So this is them saying hard data, population density, jobs chosen.
This is a huge impact on it.
So in London, for example, ethnic minorities comprise about 34% of the population, and yet they form almost half of the people who are involved in health work with me, more than half of the people who are involved in food production, and almost half of people who are transport workers.
Front facing key worker roles.
Exactly.
Black workers are often more at risk because you're on the front line and you're in those places where you can actually catch coronavirus in the first place.
Right.
I've just got to go over how he's sat there being told, like, endlessly by people who've got the hard data, this is why.
You know, people working in front-run roles are disproportionately...
But the thing is, I don't even agree that that's going to be disproportionate, because I bet that...
I mean, their data about who's working in the buses...
Probably 2010.
No, the data from the working in the buses is going to be, like, 2019 transport data or something like that.
But they're using census data from 2010, and I'm absolutely certain that this year's census is going to be an absolute shock to people.
Yeah.
There is also something to mention here.
There's a little bit of footsie going on throughout this whole thing, which they sometimes use ethnic minorities as a standard.
Sometimes they use black Asian as a standard, which excludes other groups.
Excludes Germans and French.
Sometimes they use people of colour.
And I just, I don't know why they keep changing it.
Like, surely you'd want to try and keep it consistent.
Have a consistent standard, yeah.
But whatever.
And then they go on to say here about, well, frontline NHS, there's also a disproportionality in people dying there.
So it might not just be that you're working frontline.
It might be a genetic problem here.
So just play.
Black and Asian people, we form 14% of the population, and yet we actually make up 21% of the NHS workforce.
So a little bit more than you might expect.
And yet 63% of health workers who have died from this disease are from those groups.
People of colour, we are 44% of all the doctors in the NHS, and yet of all the doctors who have died from coronavirus, 95% are people of colour.
So they're showing here that even if we have X percentage of people who have brown skin, they're still dying at a higher rate than the white workers in similar conditions.
So they're saying, well, like you're saying, it might be about vitamin D, comorbidities and whatnot.
It's going to be a combination of all these things.
It's not just about the job, although that is a contributing factor.
And then they go on to talk about this sort of thing, and he just can't take it.
He thinks that, no, this is because of racism.
So just play.
You know, it's really quite depressing, actually, when you think about it.
The racism that was around when my parents first arrived in the country is pretty much still with us today.
Study after study will tell you that black and Asian people feel that they probably won't get the job that they want and will probably be passed over for a promotion simply because of their race.
And what, so they'll be relegated to working at the NHS, will they?
They'll work related to being a doctor.
I mean, that second statistic of 95% came from brown-skinned doctors.
Yeah, I mean, like, okay, so what did you want to do?
I don't know.
Oh, I wanted a good job, but instead I have to be a doctor.
Yeah.
Like, oh, okay, that's not prestigious or anything.
Sorry.
But it's also just nonsense.
Like, if we can get the first link up from the BBC, I mean, this is just something to remember, which is that this is not true.
Like, if we look at the law for a second, because we can all argue about what society does in the shadows that we don't know, these phantom ghosts of racism, but the law is actively discriminating against white heterosexual male people in the UK. I mean, this is just one court case that has been proven in court that the police, a government body here, did discriminate against a person who applied for being a white heterosexual male.
I remember this guy.
He was phenomenally well qualified, wasn't he?
Unbelievably.
Yeah, and this was his dream, wasn't it?
Because he'd been working towards it for years, and he was...
Would have been a perfect pick, but he was the wrong type of genetics, and therefore they couldn't accept him.
So it's just like, okay, so, I mean, even if you want to say that out in the ether, I believe that people discriminate against brown-skinned people because they don't want them around or something.
Well, okay, but we're going to be chasing ghosts forever if we're going to deal with that.
Hard data shows that, no, in the law, you know, something we can actually do something about, sir, we have problems to deal with here.
And it just happens to be that it's not in the direction of yourself.
Yes.
So, and then he doesn't stop here.
He has to continue going on about this.
So he then says that brown people are looked over for promotion, and that's the reason they're on the front line.
I would say this is a clear example of systemic or structural racism.
Whether it's employers not offering us promotion or teachers not encouraging us to aspire to the same qualifications as white kids in our class, the existence of deep-seated attitudes within society has been curtailing opportunities for people of color for decades.
And it's this systemic racism that's kept many people in those frontline jobs that exposed them to the virus.
I mean, it's like dealing with a child.
Oh my god, the mythology is never going to die, is it?
It's like, look, here's all the reasons for these things happening that you're upset about, and they all seem to be either within your control, or something about the geographic location of your position on the Earth, or something to do with your career path and choice to become a doctor and work at the NHS. Tangible things.
Tangible things that we can point to and say, yes, that is systemic racism, I agree.
Yeah.
We're not having the same conversation.
I must say, this is an hour long.
I've had to edit it down.
That part was after him talking to her.
I think it was his sister or something.
And she just mentioned in a cafe, yeah, I remember going for jobs and they'd look at you like, oh, you can speak well or something like that.
It's like, you've just listened to Data for like three interviews.
But your friend has said something here and then you're like, well, that's good enough for me.
It's pathetic.
This is state funded as well, just to anyone who's joined us late.
This is the BBC. And he then goes on and they just keep bashing him over the head with the data for the rest of the documentary.
So this is just them saying that, no, their health being a problem here is because of existing conditions and because you live in areas that are highly deprived.
And therefore, that's the problem here.
Patients with comorbidities were more likely to require admission to hospital than those who don't have comorbidities.
So the more healthy you are, the higher chance you have of surviving this virus?
Absolutely.
Patients who present to hospital, test positive for coronavirus, are 1.8 times more likely to die if they have underlying high blood pressure.
Something tangible.
They're 1.7 times more likely to die if they have underlying diabetes and twice as likely to die if they have underlying ischemic heart disease.
So our underlying health has a significant bearing on our outcomes from the virus.
What we found is that patients who presented with underlying health conditions are more likely to have the most serious outcomes from coronavirus.
And actually when you go back to look at where those patients came from, they were statistically more likely to come from regions of highest deprivation.
So the people who are more likely to die have existing conditions and they live in deprived areas.
And then the next clip here is him showing that deprived areas are more likely to have people who have brown skin.
And that's, you know, very easy causal link here.
Something you could easily make.
Yeah.
So let's just play this.
Deprivation is a very complex term.
It's not just as simple as poverty and how much income you have.
It's also things like what kind of housing you live in, what kind of food you eat.
One of the conditions that we know is really associated with bad outcomes with COVID is obesity.
Obesity is much more prevalent in deprived areas.
In fact, 36% of adults who lived in deprived areas will have obesity compared to just 21% in more affluent areas.
Again, we're talking about 25% of people having diabetes if they come from a deprived area compared to 15% if you're from a more affluent area.
If you're black, you are 70% more likely to live in a deprived area than white people.
But it gets worse than that.
If we look at the specifics, if we look at someone who's Bangladeshi, they are 114% more likely to live in a deprived area.
If you're Pakistani, you're 246% more likely to live in a deprived area than a white person.
Let's keep that there, because I just want to remember here that all throughout this we've mentioned all other different groups, and then all of a sudden the Indian doctor here suddenly is just talking about black Bangladeshi and Pakistani.
The privileged Indian doctor who's laughing, ha ha, look how poor and ridiculous you are, that's how it sounds to me?
It does sound weird.
So what are you doing?
But there's something here, she left out.
Oh, go on.
What about working class?
So we're talking about deprived areas in the country, and therefore, you know, brown people who are black and brown people who are Indian and whatnot.
But when you look at just the government data, so if we can get the next link up, I just went to the government's own website on this in which they keep information on this.
And just in the main points, in 2019, people from all ethnic minority backgrounds, except the Indian, Chinese, white Irish, and white other groups, were more likely than white British to live in the most overall deprived area.
So it's like, okay, so the Indians and the Chinese live in better off areas than white British as a group, and also the white Irish there.
And way, way above the Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, and blacks.
Yeah, so in that chart she wants to show to the British public, because the state funds this, so they want to give their perspective, which is pure propaganda.
Why did they suddenly exclude Chinese and Indian?
Because it wouldn't have fit the narrative.
It makes her laughing about this all the more sinister, doesn't it?
Yeah, the posh Indian doctors there.
You blacks!
Guess how bad your houses are!
It's like, what are you doing?
That's horrible!
The data from this, I mean, just from the clips I've shown you, it's so easy.
Like, okay, people from these communities have existing conditions, are a higher percentage, they live in more deprived areas, except the Indians and Chinese, and therefore this is a pretty obvious causal link here.
I also did check up on apparently Chinese are now underrepresented in deaths, because they're using old data for the mobility stuff, but another story.
And it goes on and on like this, and they give more, you know, no data, but instead just feelings about why things are going on.
I mean, I've got some feelings about it, if we're going into the feelings thing.
Culturally, there are differences between these cultural groups.
I mean, have you ever had Caribbean food?
No, actually, there's a place down I have had it.
Oh, well, it's amazing.
It's obviously not good for you.
It's really fatty, and it's delicious.
And since I'm on keto, I can have it.
If the restaurants were open, I would.
But it's really delicious, but it's obviously not good for you.
And if you ate this on a regular basis, you can explain the obesity rates.
Pretty easy.
I mean, not to start going with Bangladeshi and Pakistani there, the fact of families living in the same household.
I mean, do these people want the government to come and start dragging grandma and granddad away from these houses and putting them in the nursing homes?
Sounds awful.
Which they're killing everyone.
Andrew Cuomo can then take over.
Yeah, Jesus.
No!
Jesus Christ.
And this isn't good enough for him to hear the data, so then he goes on.
All this data is racist.
Some lady talking about how apparently black women, when they're giving birth, might not be given drugs, but she doesn't really have any data for it, apart from the fact that she says, I think it's, what is it, black women are five times more likely to die in childbirth in the UK? Jesus.
It's like, okay, sure, so that could be something they investigated.
That has nothing to do with COVID, mate.
Yeah.
So I don't know why you brought up this conversation.
But it's like, okay, whatever.
And then he decides that, no, there are better things for me to get my information.
Race doctors from the US are the people he's going to get his information from.
Oh, good idea.
So he invites this American professor to talk about this.
Oh, thank God.
We get Americans to come and talk to us about race, finally.
Let's play.
I understand the role that systemic racism can play in creating inequality.
From jobs to living conditions to medical treatment...
But there's a radical school of thought originating in the US suggesting that racism itself could be making us ill.
Weathering is what happens to your body down through your body systems down all the way to your cells when you live in a racist society and you are the target of that racism.
When you're chronically stressed, you have stress hormones going through your body over hours, years, you know, decades.
And that starts to erode your immune system.
It affects everything in your body.
It's not just one condition.
You know, some people, it might manifest in maternal mortality.
Some people, it might manifest in diabetes or obesity.
So, in the case of COVID-19, it's not just that Black people are more likely to get COVID. But it's that they're more likely to die from it at a younger age.
And that's, I would say, very likely because of weathering.
I mean, absolute nonsense.
Like, he spoke to the doctors on this who have the hard evidence, and they're like, look, they're dying more in the ICUs because they've got comorbidities.
And he's like, I just don't understand, doctor.
Racist from America.
Please tell me what's happening.
Weathering.
It's weathering.
It's like the black nationalist version of science or something.
Childless white single woman academic has come along to invent some pseudoscientific term of weathering that explains how all black people are actually the constant victims of racism and therefore none of their life choices are their own fault.
Yeah, I mean, she is making the argument here that essentially because you are discriminated against or you feel stressed from being discriminated against or oppressed, I think the word she would use.
You perceive this.
Yeah, and therefore you're more stressed and this is causing you to get the diabetes which is then killing you.
Therefore racism is the real problem here.
It's not the amount of sugar you eat.
Snake oil salesman.
But the fact that this is invited on as some kind of expert just shows how pathetic the attempts were.
They went looking for the data, realised this was a dead end for the BBC's race grifting, and decided, right, we're just calling the academics to make up some infallible theory, which you can't disprove because it's already nonsense.
Yeah, we'll prove it's not weathering.
And...
How would you do it?
No, seriously, it's unverifiable.
You're unfalsifiable.
You couldn't...
And it's also unverifiable.
You can't prove it or disprove it.
So then he plays this afterwards, in which he's trying to claim that BLM are a great thing.
And he says that the government need to do something about these injustices after listening to this woman talk about weathering.
And it's just like, what do you mean injustices?
There is no injustice throughout this whole thing.
It is just people making their own free choices, deciding to eat unhealthily, deciding to live in an area which is low and deprived.
No, the jobs they take.
I mean, if there are no laws stopping people, if there are no barriers, well, then it's not anyone's fault that they're there.
So let's just play this.
2020 was an extraordinary year.
COVID took a brutal toll on Britain, claiming the lives of tens of thousands of people.
Against the backdrop of the pandemic, the murder of George Floyd created a perfect storm, exposing more clearly than ever before the deep-seated social and economic injustices faced by black communities.
The protesters on the street have shown they're no longer willing to put up with it.
What I want to know is, what is our government going to do about these injustices?
I mean, again, the protesters have shown that they will not put up with it.
Put up with what?
On the plus side, didn't the government make tearing down statues illegal?
I think they did.
Which is good.
That's what they're going to do about it.
Get wrecked.
We also love, whenever left this riot will destroy anything, it's like, their anger is justified.
They won't put up with it.
But if a right winger does it, it's like we've got to shut up.
When the EDL does it, they're like, ah!
Yeah.
Anyway, and then he plays this clip of Kemi Badenoch, the queen of the UK at this point, quite frankly.
Pledge our allegiance to Kemi.
She's the only one talking sense.
And she just gives a perfectly simple scientific breakdown of this play.
When Equality's Minister Kemi Badenoch reported on the disparity of COVID outcomes in Britain, she acknowledged many of the issues I've explored.
The current evidence shows that it is a range of socio-economic and geographical factors, such as occupational exposure, population density, household composition, and pre-existing health conditions, which contributes to the higher infection and mortality rates for ethnic minority groups.
Perfect explanation.
Yep.
It's this, this, this, this, this.
None of that is racist.
It's just free choices, and there's the outcome.
And we, the government, literally can't stop you doing it either.
And what's the BBC's complaint about this?
She's not saying racism.
That's the complaint.
Let's play.
Yet, in response to a question in the House, she actually dismissed the idea that racism had played a role.
Many people talked about their experiences of systemic racism, but the findings we've come out with do not support that.
I can't believe she could have come to this conclusion.
You've just spent weeks listening to scientists and people with data telling you exactly what she's then just said.
I mean, she's released a report on this, anyone can read in their own time, showing black and white why it is.
And he's just like, I can't believe it.
I know, I can totally believe that he can't believe it.
Totally believe it.
This weird racist cat lady from America said it was weathering.
Exactly.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
It's like a religious cult.
Yeah, and then he gets to interview Kemi, which I'm just going to play the full thing.
It's a little bit long, but I hope it's worth it.
Just her blowing him out.
Let's play.
I noticed that in the 62-page quarterly report that you delivered that there wasn't a single mention of the word racism or discrimination.
What we found was the cause of it was very much to do with underlying health conditions, socioeconomic factors and occupational risk factors were huge.
It's not the skin colour that causes the problem, it's the underlying risks.
It seems like we're ignoring the systemic reasons why people of colour are being kept at the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder.
So, in my place of work, for example, you can definitely see that there are people of colour, as you say, doing the security work, doing the cleaning work.
But when you look at the, you know, rates of employment, for instance, we're on a par with other races, you can see visibly, even in positions of power, who's editing vote, who's the chancellor of the exchequer, you know, just little things like that, you can see that there is improvement.
Are you therefore saying that there's no barriers to black and ethnic minorities Kind of improving their lot in the UK. Yes!
It's a kind of level playing field.
As you speak to a black minister.
But what are the bulk of people who are especially coming to the country more recently doing?
I think that's a different story.
You shouldn't just come here and then be stuck in a particular social structure.
But what are the tools to help people move on and up?
Education is an obvious tool.
Education itself does have problems within it, which prevent black children from advancing to the better colleges, better universities.
So one would have to admit that there is an element of structural racism within the educational system.
I just don't understand why we're not admitting that there is structural racism.
Well, David, why don't you tell me, what are you defining as structural racism?
I see your board shares with us already.
Well, I think, personally, I think structural racism is when the system itself prevents a particular group of people from advancing up the social ladder.
And the black MP cabinet member...
So I agree with you that those things have existed, but they are so much better.
They are so much better than when you and I were at school, David.
But in terms of the coronavirus pandemic, people felt it was racism.
That wasn't what the evidence showed.
But the fact that people feel that is itself a problem, which we need to tackle as well.
And we're not avoiding the difficult subjects, but everything has to be based on evidence.
And that's the approach this government takes.
I love it.
Look at that face.
She's literally like Richard Dawkins slapping the...
Like, look, what's the evidence?
Like, give me that.
I mean, and especially when we're talking about something like this.
But I just love it.
Black people can't get ahead, he says to the black cabinet minister.
The black actor says to the black cabinet minister on a show funded by the state in which he's talking about the, what is it, the, I don't know, what ethnicity is, the chancellor who's not white as well.
It's like, yeah, social mobility in the UK is not stopped by your race.
I mean, just demonstrably.
I mean, like the...
I just don't even know why we have to have this conversation.
And then he's blaming the universities.
Which I agree with.
They are definitely responsible for making everyone think about race all the time.
I mean, that's one thing.
But there's something she mentions in her report that I shouldn't say here, which is Jews.
Let's talk about Jews for a second.
I mean, disproportionately affected in the United States.
Yeah, that's right.
Disportionally respected in the UK, apparently.
And she makes the point to Diane Abbott in the chamber, which is just, why are we not talking about the system being structurally racist and anti-Semitic towards Jewish people?
God, this is going to get into a complex conversation now, isn't it?
But that's the thing.
It's like, because no one cares about that.
That's not useful for the Labour Party.
Well, they're not BAME, are they?
Protecting Jews.
They're not BAME. They don't fall into BAME. Exactly.
There's something else.
They're practically white men.
So they're not often important.
And you think, okay, this guy's...
We're just talking about privilege for them in a minute, aren't we?
Yeah, yeah.
So this guy's been bashed over the head endlessly with the data, and he's still got nowhere.
And then he ends up talking to the Minister for Equalities.
I mean, she's issued, I think it's two reports now, like 60-page documents explaining bit by bit Did he learn a thing?
Did he learn a thing from this hour-long documentary play?
I find this response so frustrating.
If we can't get those in power to acknowledge the damage systemic racism is doing to the health of millions of people, then I believe we face an uphill struggle to effect positive change.
Learned nothing.
Absolute dunce of the classroom.
It is literally back to sort of mythological thinking with him.
Systemic racism is a grand narrative.
It has to exist, and if I can't find evidence for it, well, that's just because the evidence is presumably being suppressed by racists.
Like Kemi Badendock.
She's doing this.
Yeah.
The white supremacists.
She's like, Jesus Christ.
Amazing.
I don't even know what to do with it.
Was there a single white person?
Oh, no, there's one white doctor at the beginning, wasn't there?
It depends what you define as white, I guess.
Actually, no, because the Doctor at the start was, what was he, like, he was like Mahmood or something, I can't remember.
Oh, was he?
Yeah, he was.
There was one that was, like, white English.
So there was one...
We're literally playing spot the white person.
Yeah, exactly.
And he's like, well, but can non-white people get ahead in England?
I guess they can.
Yeah, I mean, social mobility in the UK isn't based on your race, unless we're talking about the law, in which case, actually it is, but it's only discriminatory.
It's more based on your class.
How nice is your accent?
Class is far more important.
You notice all the nice people there having lovely accents.
Yeah, not much gangster talk coming out of their mouths.
Not much Carl Pilkington Manc accent.
Yeah, exactly.
No Geordies, you know.
I don't think we've got enough time to do the final segment because we're already running over time because we were late and we had huge things to do there.
But I'll make sure we've got that for tomorrow.
We didn't have time to do the video comments either because we were in a bit of a hurry.
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If you are interested in becoming a content creator for us, you can go to lotuses.com forward slash careers and see what we...
Are hiring folks.
We are actually looking for video content creators.
So do send us examples of your work.
We've received a few already.
We'll be going through those at some point in the future.
And so yeah, do send them in.
Anyway, Superchats.
Daniel J. Carica for $17.76, the exact right amount.
The correct amount, exactly.
It says, Welcome back, gentlemen.
As an American, I thought we eradicated racism in the late 90s.
Well, we had, pretty much, actually.
Most people were still singing rap songs.
Wu-Tang is still one of my favorite groups.
Yeah, I mean, like, it was just normal.
Go back and watch things from the 80s and 90s.
It's, you know, multiracial all over the place, but no one cared.
And so no one thought about it.
And so, like, when it came to, like, the year 2000s, they were like, oh, it's the first black superhero.
it's like no it's not you're just young and didn't watch blade or whatever it is you know very whatever the previous one is you just don't know oh this is the first woman no it's not none of this is new none of it is new you know it's been going on for decades so stop whining about it basically there's also something i didn't get to include here which um is just looking at the fact that britain is not america again like because he's obviously coming up from american perspective just assuming that it's the same history
yeah i mean i found a clip that i put on my twitter account which was and gab which was just uh a piece of yankee propaganda about how to behave in Britain.
And there's a section where this black and white American soldier on the train with an old lady, she's like, oh, you should come to tea sometime.
I love that you come from Birmingham.
I come from Birmingham, too.
And they leave.
And the camera pans over to the white guy, and the white guy goes, listen, men, that sort of thing's normal here.
And it's just like, all the English people watching this are like, I don't care.
Yeah.
You wouldn't pick up on it at all.
I'll show you after.
No, no, no.
I've seen it.
I've seen the American propaganda.
Literally, it's like the English thing that talking to black people is as normal as talking to a white person.
But it's like, you guys know that we have a world-spanning empire and we control almost all of Africa, right?
It's not like we don't know what a black person is.
But they do as well, but they just, you know, the history back then in the, I think it's been the 40s when the film was made, they're still like, you know, look, we're not home.
They do different things here.
Whereas the British, even then, were just like, I don't give a toss.
I mean, that's how different the culture is.
I mean, even when you look at, like, music videos from the 60s or whatnot, I can see, like, white and black people dancing together in the video where they're showing the dance floor, and no one cares.
It's not the segregationist South of the 1950s or whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, large portions of America weren't the segregationist South, you know, but it certainly wasn't the case over here.
But that's not to say there wasn't racism.
No, no, but it's just the way it's viewed is absurd.
Yeah.
Like it was, you know, Nazi Germany and black people were the Jews right up until, I don't know, 1980.
Yeah.
And then things changed or something.
My dad told me stories when he was growing up in the 60s and 70s of, you know, groups of boys bullying him and his brothers because they were mixed race, right?
Right.
And so, you know, he had to get in some fights and stuff.
I was like, yeah, that happens.
And if it wasn't over race, it would have been over something else.
It would have been over, I don't know, something that the guys had, you know, a toy or something.
It would have been whatever.
Kids fight, you know.
But anyway, Goat says, I don't think going exclusive is the best option at the moment.
You're still very much in the growth phase and YouTube is still the best place for that.
Instead, do an exclusive second half like Tim and Crowder.
Yeah, we're not sure.
But the thing is, I really don't like being live on YouTube anymore.
Because that's what we got whacked for, is a live stream that we did.
And it's like, okay, but we're just talking about things that happened because the Republicans had an event about a subject that I'm not allowed to talk about, apparently.
We weren't even endorsing it.
And that's the thing.
The segment we were talking about, we were talking about something else.
It was the impeachment.
And we were just talking about the fact that they had done this at the same time.
This was just one of the political events that happened.
And we didn't endorse it.
We didn't even go into depth into what they were talking about.
We just mentioned what they were talking about.
And YouTube were like, no, screw you.
So, right, okay.
Then, screw us, I guess.
And like I said, we're not leaving YouTube.
We'll still be uploading the segments and stuff like that.
So you'll still be able to watch our content here.
And we'll be using the other channel for other things.
It's just being live on YouTube seems to be a bit of a problem.
Because we might make a joke, and I don't...
That's our arm?
Yeah, I don't want to offend the gods of YouTube by comedy.
So, like I said, we will...
I mean, don't get me wrong.
We've been getting 20,000 views an episode on the website, so it's not like many of you haven't been going over there and watching it.
So we appreciate that, actually.
A lot, obviously.
We like the site.
Yeah, we like the site, exactly.
But the thing is, I really do like We have a chat on the website as well.
Yes, we have a live chat on the website and obviously you can leave us comments and these are what we'll be using in lieu of Super Chats in the future.
Someone's asking, will there be Super Chats?
Yep, that's what that is.
Yeah, that's what the comments are.
Because you've got to sign up to the site and pay to the use.
The comment system, well, we'll use that.
It's prepaid Superchats.
And Gold Tier members can send us video comments.
So, yeah, I mean, I've really been enjoying it.
It's felt really cozy because I feel like we're away from the evil eye of Sauron and the powers that be.
The Nazgul aren't going to turn up on our door there, and it feels much nicer.
But like I said, we will still upload content to YouTube, of course, so you'll still be able to catch all of this here.
So hopefully we can carry on with this new arrangement, and hopefully it'll work.
And if it doesn't, we'll just change.
You know, we'll go back to doing whatever we have to do and suffer under the sword of Damocles.
HarryTheHumanSubstitute says, I hope you're proud of me.
I got suspended from the Facebook Dungeons& Dragons group of naughty opinions.
I don't think wheelchair-bound disabled player characters is believable.
Well, I mean, it's not necessarily believable, but I mean, it could be an interesting campaign.
Imagine playing with an iron lung.
Well, it depends what your class is.
I mean, it could be really funny to have a life.
With an iron lung.
Or a wheelchair-bound fighter, right, could actually be really amusing.
It's like, okay, I can only move like 10 feet around or something.
But I still get four attacks because I'm a level 15 fighter or whatever it is.
So usually you're shredding things up.
It'd be amusing.
Working Class Patriot says, good to see you back, lads.
Well, you can always come over to the website.
Shafen Thor, glad you're back.
This week sucked.
We'll support you.
Well, thank you very much.
And again, like, if you can bring yourself to leave YouTube for five minutes, you can still watch the podcast.
They're all up on the website, so all of last week's episodes are still there.
I'll link one in the description afterwards, so feel free to go and check them out.
We had a really good week.
And some of the comments on it were like, wow, you guys look like you've been liberated.
Yes, we have come out of cold hits.
You know, we have escaped from this place.
It's nice to be able to not have to police ourselves quite so strictly.
Anyway, Veritas says, I don't like the term people of colour.
It reminds me of the segregation days of old.
It's almost like they're literally promoting white supremacy by telling others they're weaker.
Yeah, I really hate it, right?
And it's something to do with the formulation of it because if you say, like, coloured people...
Well, that's gone out of fashion, but there's something about- It's just the same phrase.
Well, it is the same phrase, but it's the active and passive voice, right?
So to put it in the passive voice, people of color makes it sound like the color is happening to them, right?
This is something, oh, I couldn't do anything.
I've been attacked by my color or something.
And like- Whereas colored people would be- It sounds more engaged, right?
And it's more active.
And so it sounds like they have agency and are in control of what's going on, which I think is just a better mindset, to be honest.
But even then, I don't really see why I would call them coloured anything.
If I have to refer to someone's skin colour, I'll refer to the skin colour.
That's why I favour Imagine Now as his brown skin.
Yeah, but why would I need to refer to someone's skin colour outside of progressive race politics?
But that's why I like it.
When would it ever come up?
It's a good mockery of it, just to say brown skin, because it reduces it down to, like, why are we talking about this?
Yeah, exactly.
Because whenever they talk in BAME and everything, it has some error of legitimacy.
Yeah, there's a construction around it.
Yeah, but when I just say brown skin, it's like, yeah, what a pointless metric.
Yeah, I mean, I just...
And again, just for anyone who has never watched any of our stuff before, we are individualists.
We do not want to categorize people based on race, and we think that's a morally wrong thing to do, and that is the root and...
the very root and stem of racism.
Is this kind of racialized thinking?
And I just don't think this way.
And I'm not going to allow myself to think this way either.
I think it's bloody evil.
Anyway, a bunch of random letters says, this guy probably has imaginary friends since he has no problem having imaginary oppression.
Yes.
Are you planning to come back to the US to do an event like Minds IRL? Any plans for something like that?
Well, Jim, you have to understand, the government have made it illegal currently to go on holiday.
So I would love to, but it's not on the cards for the foreseeable future.
When the lockdown is over, and maybe when we're allowed to actually leave the country, I would love to come back to the US and do events like mine's.
But like I said, for the moment, we're just forbidden by law.
Anyway, going on to the comments from the website, George Hap says, Yeah, that's something I forgot to mention.
Yeah, Cuomo's presidency bid is not going to be looking very good from the Democrat perspective.
I mean, the Republicans are probably just going to be like, well, they're allegations.
Where's the proof?
Go to the police, blah, blah, blah.
You know, I doubt Me Too allegations would stop the Republicans from talking about whatever it is Cuomo wants to talk about in regards to, like, tax policy.
But from the Democrat point of view...
An accusation's enough.
Yeah, that's it.
You know, Cuomo is now on the receiving end of believing women.
And as you say, a threat to Empress Kamala, which is a great title.
So, yeah, it could well be that he's outlived his usefulness and that they do want to cover for the COVID narrative.
Because if you Google Cuomo nursing homes COVID, you'll find a lot of mainstream publications like, well, look, Cuomo doesn't deserve this coronavirus reputation that he got.
And so I don't think his approval rating is going to last forever.
Jun K says Cuomo is arguably a bigger threat to Kamala than the next potential Republican nominee.
That's true.
Well, I mean, they fortified the 2016 primaries against Bernie Sanders.
We saw that from the leaked emails, Hillary's leaked emails.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Herman Cain, I think it was.
Tim Cain, I think it was.
I keep calling him Herman Cain for some reason.
I don't know why.
But we have evidence of this.
And they were planning to smear Bernie as an atheist if he managed to get any further.
Shock horror.
So yeah, not wrong there, Dune.
Dylan Tucker says Cuomo is getting Emmy Awards for looking good on TV while killing people and having his assault allegations largely ignored while the governors attempting to preserve their constituents' freedoms are literally Hitler.
If it wasn't for the double standards, Democrats wouldn't have any at all.
Yeah, and then they'd complain when MeToo forces them to have minimal standards.
By the way, maybe you shouldn't sexually assault your wives.
God, a Republican...
Not your wives, your assistants.
Republicans don't have these standards.
Mike Pence won't even be seen in a room alone with a woman.
What are you talking about?
Based, to be honest.
That is the best standing, you know?
I bet they view that as him, like, going, ugh, women!
That's exactly how they...
Oh, that's misogynistic.
It's like, it's also very wise.
A wise tactical manoeuvre from Mike never-going-to-get-me-too'd Pence.
You know, like, just saying.
LAUGHTER And yeah, good for Texas, by the way.
For anyone who doesn't know, the governor of Texas came out and was like, I'm opening everything.
These lockdowns are ending.
This is over.
And the left are freaking out.
The socialists are like, oh, you're going to be responsible for all of the deaths.
It's like, no.
No, he's not.
But he can be responsible for not oppressing people.
That's something you can do.
It's the World Health Organization's advice.
Don't do lockdowns.
Yeah, they don't advise lockdowns.
It disproportionately affects communities of colour.
Trust the science, folks.
Trust the science.
Lockdowns are racist, is what the World Health Organization has basically come to.
Not even joking, look at their website.
Did they actually do that?
They say they disproportionately affect communities of colour.
Literally, lockdowns are racist.
Okay, good enough.
The poverty wasn't bad enough?
No, it's not the tyranny that's the problem.
It's not the poverty.
As long as we can get to some reason to end lockdowns, I'm fine.
Let's just do it.
Jack says, I think social justice can be best described as a postmodern religious phenomenon that serves the psychological needs for social identity and community that pre-modern religions provided, but for atheists who have completely rejected religion have also been completely demoralized about Western society.
The only way this phenomenon can end is for educational institutions to produce a new generation of patriotically minded individuals.
Yuri was right.
Well, totally endorse.
I mean, that's obviously correct.
Simon Walsh says, yes, do it screw YouTube.
I'm upgrading silver subscription right now to reward this initiative.
Oh, well, thank you very much.
Yeah, and I think that's just safe for us.
You know, we're not safe on YouTube because we make jokes.
We dare to question some sacred narratives.
I mean, tomorrow YouTube might enact another editorial policy saying, well, you know, it's not just COVID. You're not allowed to say certain things about it.
It's not just elections.
Twitter has enacted a new one saying criticism of NATO. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I don't do much criticism of NATO, but I could if I wanted.
How arbitrary is that, you know?
Yeah, why?
But anyway, that's the point.
It would be safer for us to livestream on our website and then upload the clips that we've sanitised for YouTube's censorious editorial policies.
So that's what we can do.
Alan Bernstein says, Yes, livestream here first uncensored and undisavowed.
Love it.
Chris W says, Yeah,
and as White Hot Peppers has been reporting from the Capitol, they've been doing test exercises where people who look like civilians and they've got to go through these drills and exercises to essentially fight them off.
To be honest with you, if I were a National Guardsman, I'd be like, am I really sacrificing myself for Biden?
This is one of the things that a lot of people have their noggin-joggin, as on the footage of the police letting them in.
And you've got to wonder, looking at those officers, it's like, hmm.
Rolf Hessel Leiter, a German surname, so I probably pronounced that wrong.
Keep up the good work, lads.
Really enjoying the content.
Especially good to listen to while gaming.
12 out of 12 bacon burgers.
Bacon burger, the best kind of metric.
Bacon?
Oh man, I would love a bacon burger, actually.
Is that American?
I feel like cheeseburger is more American.
Well, yeah.
Because it's got American cheese on it.
Yeah, but I mean, cheese, bacon, and burger.
I mean, you've got to give it to them.
They do do good burgers.
And this is why you deserve the heart conditions that you get.
Since...
History says, Brothers and Vicky, I live in Connecticut, New York eastern neighbours.
If the rich New York City folks are running to Connecticut for the lower taxes, New York has some serious systemic issues.
Also, the extra January 2020 flu case is interesting because something nasty rolled through my shop right around there.
I'm 26 and it actually stopped me from working for a few days.
I can confirm it wasn't the flu, but yeah, no, Cuomo's happy about the Me Too allegations because alternative is 13,000 cases of forever sleeping the elderly.
Yeah, well, I mean, like...
They're sleeping with the fishes.
What a position to be in.
It's like, God, I really hope someone accuses me of sexual assault because otherwise I'm in trouble.
Ha!
Like, really?
Okay.
I feel you've painted yourself into a corner at that point, right?
God, if only someone could accuse me of rape.
Thomas Lovett.
Thomas Lovett.
Hey, I've got no allegations against me.
I'm a good boy.
Thomas Lovett.
Brown-skinned people are more likely to be overweight or obese.
They are also far more likely to have vitamin D deficiency because they can't process vitamin D as well.
They're white counterparts in low-light areas of the world like Northern Europe.
But yes, it's definitely the racism inherent in the system that's killing them.
Yeah, I mean, literally the evolutionary purpose of having light skin is to facilitate vitamin D production.
I mean, I dare say, if we were to go to, I don't know, sub-Saharan Africa and look at the relative skin cancer rates between white people and black people, then the skin cancer is almost all going to be like in Zimbabwe.
It's almost all going to be white people, isn't it?
It's bound to be.
Why wouldn't it be?
Yeah, exactly.
Why wouldn't it be?
What would be the logical reason for it to not be?
Like, it has to be that.
Because that's the point of having dark skin.
It shows how Zimbabwe hates white people and it's giving them cancer.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But we're not going to be like, oh, well, that's systemic racism against white people.
The weathering that white people have to endure.
Nature.
Nature.
Nature is systemic racism.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, look, it's just a fact of life that people are just different around the world.
I mean, I didn't even think...
I thought that was a good thing.
That was one of the things that everyone was celebrating.
Like, there was a Coca-Cola adverts, like, I want the world to live in harmony.
It's like, okay, by recognising our differences, we're all unique and interesting, aren't we?
The socialist position is that, no, we must be one race, one world.
We're all the same, and if you say otherwise, then you're a racist.
It's like, okay...
Cuomo is no longer useful now that Orange Man is out so he can take the fall now.
Even though if he's impeached or resigns, his replacement will be just as bad as New York politics.
Yeah, you're not going to get another Giuliani.
Jace Derwin says, the neo-Bolshevik ethno-narcissists, that's a great way of framing the progressives, will not allow anything to distract their narrative.
If you control the variables for fat, old, sick, you'll see right through the nonsense.
Yeah, again, none of this is secret information.
Like, it's all out there.
The professionals are telling the documentary maker, look, it's not to do with racism, it's to do with your lifestyles.
And it's like, well, there we go.
He just wouldn't accept it.
He's just saying, no, no, no, no, no.
This has to do with racism.
But my weathering.
Yeah.
But what about weathering?
Christopher Ford says, Yeah, well, I like to toot my own horn here.
I was being genuinely prophetic.
I had a bit of foresight.
I was like, okay, this is going to get bad.
Let's figure out something where we can at least have somewhere to exist without their permission for five minutes, which is nice.
Theo says, that documentary is utter BS. My teachers did push me as hard as the white kids, and I'm in my final year for my Master's in Engineering degree.
No, Theo.
Theo, we were just reliably informed that non-white people can't get ahead.
You're going to have to quit your Master's degree in Engineering?
I'm sorry, I know you've worked really hard.
I'm sure that you love the career that you're looking forward to.
But I've been informed that you're weathered out of the ability to succeed.
So...
The reish shaman has told us.
The weathering.
The white cat lady from America has informed us that you're actually oppressed.
It reminds me of that clip.
I think it was like South Africa where they had some lady arguing.
Yeah, but how does the lightning work?
Yeah, yeah.
It's the University of South Africa.
How does the shaman call the lightning?
And one guy at the back says, it doesn't.
That's not how it works.
Ah, you can't even say!
How the shaman calls the lightning!
How does the weathering work, huh?
It's full of weathering.
Exactly.
Even if you believe the system is structurally racist, that's no excuse not to try and make something of yourself.
Enough with the excuses.
Yeah, I totally agree with that, right?
Let's assume that the system is stacked against you.
Okay, well, you're still free to act.
You can still open a business.
You can still make some money.
You can still do whatever.
Even if the police are going to be extra wary of you or something like that, okay.
That sucks.
You know, don't get me wrong.
If that were the case, that would suck.
But you're actually not being prevented from working hard.
And it's the hard work that produces the wealth and success.
So, you know, no excuses.
I totally agree with Theo here.
I've just reminded myself, I remember when we did a segment on, I think it was like, we were talking about white racism and there was these terrorists who killed white people on the basis they were white.
One of them did go to court and then tried to argue in the court that he should not be convicted because he had been systemically discriminated against in American society and therefore he was mentally ill.
It was like, what?
Because he was black.
They were arguing he'd experienced oppression and therefore he should be charged with being mentally ill, not a murderer.
I mean, I agree, he might be considered mentally ill.
No, he wasn't.
He was definitely not.
That's a massive grift.
But I mean, that's where it leads you to, where you're just saying brown people for having brown skin are mentally ill, and it's just like, oh my god.
Jesus!
They were saying that in court.
That was a good point.
I didn't even think of the corollary of what I just said there.
Yeah, no, disavow.
Well, I'm really, really pleased with the book reviews.
I've got a book review of Brave New World coming up, and I say coming up because there's a lot of groundwork that I need to do to be able to explain why Brave New World is far the most superior piece of dystopian fiction that was written in the early 20th century.
And this huge amount of worry is going to require us to do a premium podcast, Callum, where I have to essentially lay out all of the things that we're going to be talking about before actually then talking about them coming up in Brave New World.
But I promise you, we'll record it, I don't know, probably Friday or something.
And it's going to be totally worth everyone's time.
Honestly, this is going to be...
A work on par with my Starship Troopers breakdown.
I've done so much goddamn work on this and I'm so proud of it that I haven't even done it and I'm bigging it up this big.
So it better be good really now.
Yeah, you've just shot yourself in the foot.
But no, I really love the book reviews.
Isn't Hannah Gall doing us a book review of 12 Rules for Life?
No, what is it?
Oh, no, the Beyond Order.
Yeah, the new Jordan Peterson one.
Yeah, she's doing us...
Yeah.
Do we know when we're going to have that up?
No, she's working on it now.
Oh, she's working...
Right, okay.
Well, it will be with us soon.
Anyway, the Zurst says the COVID-19 response must be racist.
Let's find evidence for this.
Oh, there is no evidence for this.
Therefore, that's actually proof that COVID-19 response is racist.
This man actually sounds like a conspiracy theorist.
Well, that's only because he's promoting conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
This is the only reason.
Large Mammal says, what virtues should republics enforce or encourage?
And what vices should republics deny or discourage?
What values should a republic teach to the next generation for the republic to be maintained?
Well, that's a good question.
I suppose it kind of depends on the republic.
But in fact, that's a very large question that would take a long time to answer.
So I'm just going to say self-reliance.
Self-reliance.
Self-ownership is probably a prerequisite to republicanism.
Sorry, it just reminded me of Juche.
Yeah, well...
And Robbie Cooper, I'm not reading out that quote of the day because we're on YouTube.
But I already said it.
Yeah, but it's out of context.
Okay.
And that makes it sound bad.
So I'm not...
And I don't want them clipping me say it.
It's okay.
They clip me.
Yeah, that's fine.
Well, do you want me to say it then?
No.
No.
I don't want to take risks on YouTube.
But tomorrow, tomorrow, 1pm UK time, lotuses.com, we'll be able to make all the jokes we want and then censor them for the clips that we put up to YouTube.
This is the world we live in now, folks.
You know, this is what they've done to us.
But anyway, if you would like more from us, you can, of course, come over to lotuses.com, sign up for the website and get access to all of our premium content, which I think is superb and obviously is exclusive and you can't find it anywhere else.
We've also got loads of other just non-premium content.
Every day we've got news articles going up that cover things that we think that people aren't talking about enough, hopefully.
And we are having new writers appear, hopefully on the 8th, that we've got two new writers coming in.
And we're also going to be doing a sort of like...
Bulletin-style dispatches.
So we're going to have, hopefully, a modification to the website in about a week's time.
So we'll have a quick news section.
There are loads of things that happen that don't really warrant a big news article of their own, like an in-depth one that Josh and Hugo do, but are noteworthy and probably should be covered.
So hopefully that will become a really, really useful resource in the future.
But that's me spoiling things.
Anyway, we'll see you tomorrow, folks, on Lotuses.com and not on YouTube.
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