Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Tuesday, the 2nd of March 2021.
I'm joined by Callum, and today we have a couple of announcements.
So there have been people asking why we aren't streaming to YouTube, and that's because we currently have a community strike on YouTube for reporting on Republicans asking questions about the election.
We appealed it.
They denied it.
So we're off there for another, what, two or three days, I think it is.
But we're not really sure what we're going to do about the streams themselves.
I mean, there's something quite pleasantly exclusive about streaming to the website, which I've quite enjoyed.
And so we might continue just streaming to the website and then upload clips to YouTube and let people know that we stream the main podcast here.
I don't know.
What do you think?
I'm not sure it's up for me.
I think it's up for the chat and you.
Well, I guess so, but like, you know, I'm happy to take your opinions.
But yeah, so we're still streaming here, obviously, and we're on Facebook and DLive, I think it is, and VK maybe.
Yeah, so we're on various other alternative platforms, but obviously it's preferable for us to stream on the site and if you come here, we prefer that.
Yeah, it means we can say things that we can't on YouTube.
It does, it does.
We can use certain words that we're not allowed to use on YouTube.
But before we begin, we have another new premium article by Dr...
We like the website.
We do like the website.
We've got another premium article from Dr John Tangney, who's written us a nourishing thought piece exploring the arguments on either side of the reparations debate and how it connects to the sacred nature of the family and how destroying the family actually undermines the reparations argument.
And it's very, very interesting.
Beautifully put together piece, in fact.
The desacralization of the family and the necessary lineal connections of the descendants, when that's broken, the case is undermined completely.
It's a complex argument, but he writes it in a very, very nice way, and it's very easy to get through, I thought.
And then, of course, we've got people asking if they can work with us.
Maybe.
You can go to careers, lotuses.com slash careers, and apply for something that we have up there, rather than just emailing us, because apparently that just creates a backlog.
And Vicky has to redirect you to the website, so you may as well go there for the first time anyway.
But yeah, we are looking for video content creators, so if you think you would be a good video content creator, send us an email with an example of your work and let us know.
Anyway, right, let's get into it.
So, Women's History Month on Twitch.
It's Women's History Month in March, according to whoever decides these things.
Which is longer than Black History Month.
Which is longer than Black History Month.
Black people get the shortest month of the year.
Women get a bit more.
What's the longest month in the year?
Well, 31 days.
There are a bunch of them.
Ah, so I bet a whole bunch of people get the other ones.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't...
There's...
What?
Much?
I think March has 31 days.
Oh, there we go.
So women get the most, likes get the least.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, there we go.
There we go.
That's a commentary on the progressive stack for you.
But Twitch thought that they would come out bravely in defense of women because nobody has ever spoken in defense of women before.
And they put out a video about the...
They call it Wimixin.
So it's not women with an E, it's women with an X. Because that's how women are spelt.
And this video they put out, and it was deleted from their Twitter.
Why was it deleted?
Well, they got backlash from literally everyone.
There wasn't a single area of the political compass that wasn't in opposition to this, for some reason or another.
Which is interesting, because a couple of years ago, Wimickson was a very cutting-edge way of describing women, because obviously it escaped the word man from being a part of it, and escaping the patriarchy.
It's a way of removing gender.
So this also happens with Latino Latina.
It became Latinx, where they would just get rid of the symbol that denoted what gender you were referring to.
Yeah, but specifically taking man out of the thing.
But it's also the destruction of the words that came before.
It is indeed the destruction of the words that came before.
I don't want to just be like, oh, it's Orwellian, but I mean, it literally is Orwellian.
That's the only comparison that exists in fiction.
So, sorry.
Pretty much, yeah.
But yeah, so we managed to salvage the video, of course, because nothing has ever gone from the internet.
And to be honest with you, it was quite easy to find because it was on Twitch's website.
They had a Vimeo.
So they deleted it off Twitter, but they kept it on their website.
Yeah, so it's not like they retracted it.
They're just sick of being dunked on on Twitter.
But the video's only like a minute long, so let's take a watch.
Women creators are shaping the gaming space by building amazing communities, supporting each other.
There are so many beautiful, vibrant, talented, incredible women content creators on Twitch.
Women creators are shaping this industry in such a beautiful way simply by being themselves.
I celebrate women on Twitch every day by being the representation that I seek.
I decided to start streaming shortly after I came out publicly.
To me, the biggest reason was that I wanted to create the representation that I never really saw out there growing up.
I had this little corner of the internet that I'm able to just create this really nice space for people.
I want to show that I can do it so other people can also feel like they can do it.
Women creators are needed in this industry so that the next generation never has to hear she's only successful because she's a girl.
Can I say women f***ing rule?
I love that.
I love the idea that literally until about 2010, there were no women on TV. There were no women representing public life.
And people were like, is that a woman?
And she's like, yes, I'm a woman.
I'm brave and stunning.
And I don't care what you patriarchs say.
I mean, it's comical.
It's comically embarrassingly bad.
And it's like something from 2012.
You know, it's as if the last 10 years or so of social development on the internet just hasn't happened.
But I love the way that this is described.
It's so cringe, right?
I'm going to be the representation that I see.
It's like, yeah, that was always allowed.
No one was ever against that.
We already have five women on the team, Lisa.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
You have an entire movement about women.
You have all women shortlist for various jobs.
And women have just always been on TV and in entertainment.
Like, no one has ever been against women being represented, right?
But the thing, what I love about this, look at all of the reasons.
It's always like, it's about her in relation to others, right?
It's not about, like, success or achieving a particular thing.
It's always about being in relation to others.
And I checked with Josh, our resident psychologist, and he was like, yep, the social status of the thing is definitely a woman's interest rather than a man's interest, primarily, you know, more important, because women apparently evolutionarily depended on, had a greater dependence for group approval for survival, which makes sense, really, doesn't it?
So, it's interesting how this is very, very womanly.
We're wearing the same shirt.
How could you do this to me?
I didn't want a shirt you were wearing in the morning.
Anyway, but there's also two points in there.
The fact that, you know, they used a WimX.
But yeah, in the video themselves, they're all saying woman and women.
Yes.
But also just a pet peeve.
I hate this about Yankee culture, but they keep using the term woman in where they mean women.
And you see in the subtitles they've written women, but the person says woman.
So like woman creators, women creators.
What are you talking about?
What is going on with this TV? I don't know.
You didn't, you didn't, did you?
Right.
Okay.
So, um, yeah, I, I love, uh, the, um, another one was, uh, we're going to do this by being ourselves.
It's like, but that is an implication that you're already like perfect.
Um, Sorry, when I first started, I sucked at doing this, and I had to work really, really hard to not suck at doing this.
I was not good enough just by myself.
And at the end of the day, if women are so good, why do they need so much help?
Good question.
Begs the question.
Why do you need all of this if women are as good and perfect as you suggest?
Because I might suggest that actually this is a way of mediocre women getting some attention to themselves, which in fact implies that they need to improve, that they're actually not as good as they say they are, and all of this fluff is just nonsense.
I mean, I don't want to be the teller of hard truths, but I think that's true.
You know, and if it was my son or daughter, I'd be like, well, look, you know, you're okay.
Well, that's the problem with affirmative action.
If you give someone special privileges that they don't deserve, they will be worse than the competition who didn't get it.
Yeah, exactly.
And they don't realize why they're worse, because everyone around them is telling them they're perfect just as they are.
It's like, no, you need to get better.
Everyone needs to get better, whatever it is they're doing.
For the chance, you're just not that good.
But anyway, so this is connected to something called the Thousand Dreams Fund.
That Twitch has been promoting.
And so the Thousand Dreams Fund is a national non-profit that supports the dreams of talented young women in need with scholarships, mentorship and other resources.
You can guess what the other resources are, can't you?
That's right, it's money.
It's money, Callum.
And they're excited to unveil the Twitch streamers who will be participating in their annual Streams for Dreams charity event taking place in March.
It's a charity event.
It's unquestionable.
It's got to be good.
There's nothing here to criticise.
This is obviously in honour of Women's History Month at the end of the month.
For the first time, they'll dedicate an entire day to it, which is wonderful.
And so what is it?
If we go to their website, I had a look around and it seems to just be a way of giving these mediocre women extra money.
I'm not surprised in the least.
Are you a woman?
Well, we're going to give you some money.
Yep.
I mean, don't get me wrong, it seems like a nice enough thing to do.
No, it's not a nice thing to do.
It's a pretty evil thing to do, in my opinion.
Is it?
Yeah, just to give someone money because they've got the right genitalia.
You don't want money just because you're a man?
No.
Why do you want money?
Why would you want that?
Like, you want money because you've done something good or something worth the money, surely.
They've done something good.
They exist as women on Twitch.
Oh, well, send them the medal in the mail.
That's literally what this is.
I know.
It's embarrassing.
I know.
If I were a woman, I'd be like, God, this is cringe.
If this was literally for men, like, oh, we found these young men.
Well, they're perfect just as they are, and they're men on Twitch.
We're going to send them some money.
I'd be like, that is incredibly condescending.
I mean, that is what Milo Yiannopoulos did as a stunt back in the day.
Like, it was half a joke because he was making the point that, what was it, compared to Asians, white male applicants at university were underperforming.
And therefore he said, what is it, the white male scholarship or something like this?
The privilege grant.
Yeah, and he would just give money to white male applicants to universities on the basis that they need money.
I was like, okay.
Yeah, I mean, it's a joke.
But it shows up all of this, how much of a joke this is.
We can see...
I mean, they list a bunch of women that they give money to.
I mean, women is correct.
But the thing I noticed, right...
Now, I can understand if the women that they list were like, you know, 18 to 20, something like that, so they're young...
They haven't got much in the way of resources or life experience.
They're just getting on in the world.
But all of them were between, like, 27 and 35.
So these are adults.
I mean, this one here is Chibi Otaku, who's 33 years old.
What's her salary?
God knows.
I mean, I don't know what a job is.
It doesn't say, but like...
I mean, that's the other point about one of the defences of the scholarships and things, is you're giving it to people who are teenagers, early 20s.
They haven't got any resources.
They haven't worked professionally for like a decade to acquire any.
So of course they haven't got any.
Fair enough.
I can understand it.
It's like, here's some capital so you can get some more capital.
So you can get a microphone and a streaming setup and all this sort of stuff.
Fair enough.
But 33 years old...
Person who has a bunch of capital, you give them some more capital because...
Women.
Because they're women, yeah.
So we don't know how much they give them.
It's probably not that much, to be fair.
But artist, streamer, and daydreamer Chibi Otaku is all about creating a safe space for all to have fun.
Her broadcaster, Grant Winner, says it might be a bit weird in her stream, but that is normal, or what is normal anyway.
So she says her dream as a digital broadcaster is to make a community where everyone feels safe, welcome, and have fun.
The thing is, I'm actually afraid of communities that make everyone feel safe and welcome and have fun.
Which means I can't feel safe and welcome there, which means her community is actually not fit for purpose.
I know that's a mean critique, but seriously, what does that mean?
It's empty, right?
She will...
Just think about that for a second.
A place in which everyone can feel welcome and have fun.
Yes.
I mean, what does that look like?
Gandhi hangs out with Genghis Khan.
A padded cell?
Hangs out with...
Name some murderers.
I mean, Hitler and the Jews are going to hang out together and they're both going to feel perfectly safe.
What are you talking about?
Like, it's just an absurd concept.
It is, it is.
It is exactly absurd.
But yeah, so she used the money to upgrade her equipment and create an office to make better content, which at least is something pertinent to the subject.
And why they say women are underrepresented in gaming and esports.
What can we do to change this?
Keep helping each other and building each other up so we can promote and represent more female content creators.
I mean, I guess that's the stock answer.
And the challenges she's faced a long way have been getting a high view count.
I've not been in a community, so it's hard to compete with bigger streamers.
So, totally vacuous answers.
And let's have a look at her Twitch channel.
She has 116 followers.
So this is an absolute nobody.
Absolute nobody.
This is the 30-year-old.
This is the 33-year-old, yeah.
This is not her job.
How old is her account as well?
I don't know.
How much is she uploading?
Because I bet the problem here is she's not doing enough.
Well, fairly recent.
I mean, she seems to have fairly regular...
I looked at the content.
There's another one called Nikki Games who said that being the recipient of the Broadcast Her grant is a reflection of the work I've been putting into my content creation.
It motivates me to do better and do more.
Women are represented.
What can we do?
Have more groups like Broadcast Her.
Well, that's going to improve women's representation, isn't it?
I mean, yeah.
She's not wrong!
Just giving women more money for being women, yeah, I'm sure that will help women.
You're right.
I mean, why can I argue against that?
Exactly, you can't even.
When I first came to Twitch, I didn't have a group that I felt super welcomed into.
Again, it's all very social.
I find it really weird, because when I first started doing any of this, there obviously wasn't a group, and it was actually verboten to talk about feminism.
Could you imagine you talking like this?
No, not even...
When I started YouTube, there wasn't an anti-SJW group to join.
Yeah, it's so hard.
I felt so ostracized and so alone, and I didn't feel included at all.
I mean, the rung of your concerns when you started your YouTube career, I mean, where was that?
Very low.
I mean, getting cancelled was my concern.
I mean, back when we started talking about this, you couldn't criticize feminism.
It was just not the done thing.
And people would get banned from whatever communities they were in for doing so.
So it was quite radical, really.
But she says, the more visible groups like this become, the more people will have to pay attention to us and respect what we bring to the table.
Did I include a link to her?
Oh, I didn't include a link to her Twitch.
Her Twitch is 500 subscribers.
It's organic.
And absolutely nobody.
And why do we have to pay attention to you and respect what you bring to the table?
You seem to bring to the table, I am a woman, which I have to say is actually not in very short supply.
I mean, about half the planet is women.
Yeah.
I mean, the market, by observable statistic there of your subscriber base, shows that that's not valuable at all.
Yeah.
It is of zero value.
Yeah.
And yeah, you have to add something to being a woman to bring value to it.
I mean, look at Belle Delphine.
That's a lot of work, I will admit.
I think she does, yeah.
I hate having simp for Belle Belfine, but of all of the ethos out there, she actually, A, seems to have a sense of humour, and B, like, is doing something.
You know, she's, like, creative.
Like, bathwater is such a silly thing, but it's environ.
It's also really funny.
It's memorable, exactly.
It's not just, you know, tilting the camera down on your, oh, look at my cat.
Yeah, my cat, I swear.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, right?
So, yeah, you can't just be a woman.
You've got to bring something to the table.
But anyway, there was obviously a backlash to this, just like we're giving now, I suppose.
The first one, I will call it the conservative backlash, but it's being very much tied in with the TERF backlash.
Because obviously both conservative women and TERFs think that there is some sort of biologically essential nature to being a woman.
Could you not describe them as conservative feminists?
Yeah, sure, why not?
Well, there we go.
Yeah, you probably could.
But one of the, if we scroll down, we've got some tweets.
Nothing says, let's celebrate women like using Womixin in some woke attempt to erase the unique characteristics of biological females in favour of attending to feelings over facts.
No thanks.
Fair point.
And then the next one, conservative, I'd rather be called a bitch than a Womixin.
based and you've got a bunch of others but then we'll go on to the next one which is the sjw backlash now this i found brilliant because obviously uh twitch is not trying to pander to conservative or turf women obviously uh they're they're all wrong thinkers they've been excised from the club of women women now includes uh whatever the x means and that means not women uh so twitch issued a statement after being criticized for this uh and deleted the tweet
of course uh because basically a lot of people were saying well look if you create a a word called wimixin then you're excluding trans people and Because only they are the word wimixin here.
Yes.
Actual women or something else.
Trans women are women is not trans women are wimixin.
Gets complicated.
And so Twitch put out this statement.
While we wanted to use a word that acknowledges the shortcoming of gender binary language, after hearing directly from you, including members of the LGBTQIA plus community on Twitch...
Just throw an N in there, why not?
And P, probably.
We will be using the spelling women going forward.
So Wimixin is cancelled.
We are returning to women.
So that's probably like at least a decade or two decades worth of feminist theory totally undermined there.
You know, where it's like, oh god, we've got to break the patriarchy by stop referring to the word man when we refer to women.
So yeah, what about Wemmickson?
It turns out the biological males who have transitioned to become women are really upset about that, so now we have to abandon that.
Does that not make you think...
I have to wonder why the conservative feminists didn't just endorse this and be like, yeah, okay, they're all Wemixin, and we're the women.
Like, surely they'd be apt with that.
I don't know.
Apparently not.
So yeah, Wemixin is cancelled.
We want to assure you that we have and will continue to work with the LGBTQIA plus community.
We're still learning.
God, everyone's still learning.
Like, nobody knew what was coming on the horizon with this, because last year they did the same thing and nobody complained.
What, Twitch did?
Yeah.
Like, the International Women's Day, it's like the Wemixin thing.
This has been going around for years.
But did they actually use Wemixin last year?
Vicky made a video on it, complaining that, hell, doesn't this leave out women?
And the transgender males to females are like, hang on a second, don't we want to become women?
Wait, you know, hang on, you can't do this to us!
It's like, okay, we can do it to women, but not to trans people.
Right, okay.
Got it.
I understand where women fall in the stack here.
Above blacks, but below trans.
Got it.
You know, you've got to work these things out.
We should get sort of a running counter or something.
Have it so we can change it on the daily.
Keep track of the progressive stack.
God, could you imagine that?
Just the complexity, yeah.
Just the graph alone of just like, what are you even going to draw?
But our good intentions don't always equate to positive impact, but we're committed to growing these experiences, doing better, and ensuring we're inclusive to all.
That's right.
Grovel, you dogs.
On your belly.
On your belly.
Please your masters.
It's gross.
I really hate it.
And so, yeah, some of the responses were great.
This next one is brilliant.
Quick suggestion.
The motive is solid.
The direction is good.
Take the tweet down, replace Wemmickson with women, and pop it back up.
Sometimes overly inclusive can lead to exclusion.
That doesn't make any sense.
Okay.
If we include everybody, that's exclusive.
You're right.
I agree.
I agree.
I don't know.
So over-inclusivity has been a concept for a long time, and it just describes the absurdities of being like, we're going to accept everyone, and then it's just like, well, you're accepting no one.
Yeah.
And now it's exclusive, because no one wants to be in it.
No one wants to be involved in over-inclusivity.
Yeah.
This was my favourite one, though.
This one, the next one we can get up.
Literally just call us dishwashers.
That's better than this at this point.
This was from someone who, as you can see, is a trans flag in their bio and describes himself as, quote, some ace transbian kitsune bitch.
So someone who clearly doesn't have any mental health problems at all.
The obviously sane here.
A transbian, by the way, for anyone who doesn't know, I looked this up.
A transbian is a transgender woman who is sexually slash romantically attracted to other women.
So that's a man who's transitioned to being a woman and then wants to have sex with normal women.
Yeah.
But they've still got a penis.
Well, I mean, maybe.
Maybe the pre-gender surgery?
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, I suppose if you're a normal woman, having sex with someone who's got a penis is probably...
I mean, that makes sense, doesn't it?
Well, I mean, if you're a lesbian woman...
If you're a lesbian woman, I don't think you'd want the penis, but...
Well, I mean, what do I know about what lesbian women want?
Well, I can infer that much, surely.
But...
But all I know is that you wish you were going to get called a dishwasher.
Christ, that's not happening!
Anyway...
Probably shit washing dishes.
So I just think we should go down the French route, to be honest, and just ban gender-neutral words altogether.
This is based France.
Have we not got the link, John?
Right, so basically, this is Macron's war on Islamo-leftism.
It also dovetails into this, because as the English-speaking world is fighting tooth and nail over who gets to be a dishwasher, Macron's like, nobody gets to be a dishwasher!
Is he?
No, because if he's banning gender-neutral words...
I'm assuming this is...
That's true, that's true.
So because the way the French language works is you have male and female words.
Yes.
And it's meant to be like the Academy decides new words.
That's correct, yeah, yeah.
So I'm assuming the Academy here has said neutral words are not part of the French language.
Basically, yes.
Yeah.
So a bill has been proposed to ban gender-inclusive language in all official administrative documents.
Which, I mean, it sounds silly to the English speakers because obviously we don't know.
This is a serious issue for the French.
It is a very serious issue.
They're very much language Nazis.
They are.
And, you know, it's good to see Macron's Jupiterian presidency rising again.
So this was put forward by the deputy president in Macron's party.
And targets a written style known as, and I'm going to butcher this, Ecriture inclusive, right?
And so that obviously means inclusive language.
And he's one of 60 politicians in the French National Assembly who claim that it creates a gap between spoken and written French, thereby making French more complex to learn.
And he seeks to redress the point of the language, the ecriture inclusive, was to redress the dominance of masculine words in the language.
And so this is something that they tweeted out.
Endangers the French heritage and does not help in the fight for gender equality.
And as you say, the Académie Francaise, the Academy of French, because the French are such absolute totality, and it really is...
We should probably explain the difference, because for people who don't know English, new word gets created by you and me agreeing that this word means something, and that's it.
It's a decentralized network of people who operate independently, and then from this emerge new patterns of speaking.
And of course this happens in France, but they want to make sure their language is pure, for lack of a better word.
And so they set up an academy which will determine if a word is officially a word.
Yes.
So they didn't like email, for example, and they came up with what was that?
Communique électronique or whatever.
So it was, you know, French.
They had to do something else.
And that's how French language works in officialdom.
Yes.
And yeah, so the French actually officially police their own language.
Because they're afraid that otherwise the country will become too English, which I can, you know, I sympathise with that.
Because if it was the other way around, I'd be very mad.
Sure, but the thing is, like, it just speaks to the Napoleonic mindset of the continent, really.
You know, the truth and authority and rightness, correctness, are descended from upon high, and you will be given it, you peasants, you know.
I'm not saying I agree with it, I just understand it.
No, no, I know, I know.
But I just want to highlight that this is, again, just indicative.
A very French thing.
Two completely different mindsets.
The English mindset is totally different to the continental one.
And this is a really good example of that.
But anyway, earlier this month, one literature professor at Jean Monnet University said that this was actually because of conservatives clinging to a bastion of male dominance, to which I presume Macron just looked at her and was like, Oui!
And if he wasn't, he should have been.
She told France 34, we've fed this idea of language, that language rules are sacred and that feminists are undermining our culture.
Again, we.
It's the kind of talk that stirs emotional responses, but simply doesn't withstand scrutiny.
And it's like, okay, you say it doesn't withstand scrutiny, but we like the language.
We like the language.
I'm sorry, we're in full-on orc mode at this point.
And I... I really like this meme.
I do.
It's very strong, isn't it?
Oh, but you can't rationalise this.
I don't have to.
I just like it.
I mean, we're literally talking about language, for Christ's sake.
Yeah, exactly.
I have all the things.
You have to rationalize.
No, I don't.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't.
This means what I say it means because I'm the one who said it.
End of story.
So, yeah, this is...
Gender neutrals mean nothing because they is.
Exactly.
And enough orcs agree.
Yeah, exactly.
If we all just agree, then that's what it means.
And, you know, French feminist BTFO'd.
I thought of a joke, I can't say.
I'm going to write it down.
But yeah, so it's nice to see that the intersectional language manipulation is coming back to bite them and essentially destroy the things they're trying to build.
And this is the problem.
If you're trying to build something that is so...
Like, intrinsically riddled with contradictions.
Anything you try and build on it will just easily be attacked and destroyed, as we're seeing now.
So, yeah, no such thing as Womixin anymore.
We're back to women, so the men can become women.
Because if the men can't become women, then transgenderism is over, something like that.
And bad news for those people who undertook gender reassignment surgery.
Little walks, little walks.
It doesn't sound the same in French, does it?
Well, nothing does.
Everything sounds more effeminate.
Yeah.
Anyway, let's talk about...
I'm going to like that joke.
I'm sending it to you on DMs.
I can't see it on anything.
So Gab got hacked a little while back, and I didn't think it would be that big of an issue, because Parler got hacked, for example, and they released all the data about what people were, and the net impact of that was actually showing that Parler did nothing wrong, because it was actually most people who were storming the Capitol were on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.
So, nothing bugger.
But no, it turns out the Gads got a little bit of a story behind it.
So this is why they were targeted.
You can see here, this is just their Alexa rankings.
So you can see that 90 days ago, they're much lower.
They've had a pretty meteoric right here, higher up in the traffic, which is good.
It's nice to see alternative free speech platforms getting the traffic they deserve.
1,835th of all websites in the world.
That's really good.
Great.
I mean, we're like 150,000th, so that's really, really impressive.
And it's nice to see, because you can see the little upward swing there.
I think that's part of...
That's going to be where Parler got banned, or Trump got banned.
And that's the thing, it's also demonstrable that every time social media of Silicon Valley decides to censor a bunch of people...
That just drive traffic to Gab.
It does nothing else.
It doesn't delete the person.
They don't go anywhere.
So that's one thing.
And then they were hacked.
So the story next is just them being hacked.
And there's just some notes from this that apparently the hackers stole 70 gigabytes of user data.
And they said they wanted to expose the platform's largely right-wing users.
Well, who didn't know that?
It's like, that's not a secret.
By the way, did you know, on Gab, they're not left-wing.
Yeah.
Yes.
You got us.
And then they say that they're not publicly releasing the data due to its sensitivity, which is responsible.
Also probably because it'd be illegal.
Yes.
And the vast amounts of private information it contains.
Instead, the group says it will selectively share it with journalists, social scientists, and researchers.
Irresponsible.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
But you can see the motive here.
They're left-wing attackers and they're going to come after people and try and use it to smear people through journalists.
You know, the smear merchants.
And at this point, the thing is they can just make up anything.
They're going to be like, well, we're not going to do a massive data dump.
So anything we say is...
Just in there, trust us.
You're just going to have to take our word for it.
So, I mean, who have they got there?
What's that Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Yeah, so here's some of the writing from Wyatt here.
No, no, let me say it.
Okay, okay.
So they say, among the users who have hashed passwords up here in the data included Donald Trump, Republican Congresswoman, and QAnon conspiracy theorist Marjorie Taylor Greene, MyPillow CEO and election conspiracy theorist Mike Lindell, and disinformation spouting radio host Alex Jones.
I just love the little information they put in there.
Election conspiracy theorist.
I mean, what a phrase.
Well, like Nancy Pelosi in 2016.
I mean, you gotta.
I mean, is that how they're going to refer to her in future?
Of course not.
We can do that.
Speaker of the House and election conspiracy theorist Nancy Pelosi.
But what were you going to say, sorry?
I just had to mention that because I find that amazing.
Yeah, I mean, that is amazing.
But like Marjorie Taylor Greene, I mean, they could just make up anything, couldn't they?
Oh, she believes in, you know, here she is.
Jeffrey Epstein's scepticism.
Yeah, well, they could say that anyone's promoting Nazism or something.
And what are they going to do?
Check the records?
Yeah.
So then they said Wired have been sent the info, so they're telling you that they have seen these documents.
And they say that the file containing private conversations, apparently Gab was rolling out a DM service, starts with the line from the hackers, all in caps, F-Trump, F-Colonizers, and Capitalists, death to a merry KKKR. So it's like, okay, so these people are extreme leftists.
There's...
No one else talks like that.
No question about it.
Yeah.
So Gab responded to this, and they dubbed the people who were trying to hack the website, and successfully did, as mentally ill tranny demon hackers.
Brackets, I'm very serious.
That's Andrew Torber's words, just to be clear.
And I just...
And of course I got a big laugh out of this because I was just like, what the heck?
Like, why would you write that?
I know he's a bit of a crusader, but it's...
A bit of a crusader.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising the crusade, but like, it has to be remembered that people who don't sympathise with Andrew's position will read that and think he's a lunatic.
And we're not talking about the smear merchants.
They'll always read whatever they want.
But just average people.
Normal people, yeah.
So I agree that that's a legitimate criticism of how Andrew conducts himself.
Apparently this might not be as wrong as first thought, though.
So, we found the group who are claiming to be responsible for the attack.
So this is a new Twitter account they set up.
So you can see the little rainbow, transgender, black, brown flag.
Skull and bones with a mouse.
Yeah.
Right, okay, hang on a second.
So when it's like WikiLeaks or Anonymous or something like that, where they're like, we're going to reopen governments and things like that, fair enough.
I totally agree that government secrets probably should be exposed to the world because who knows what those people are doing with their elected powers, right?
Well, if it's illegal, I agree.
Sure, yeah, obviously.
And that's the point.
But this is targeting a social media platform For ideological reasons.
This is not morally equivalent, in my opinion.
In fact, if anything, it looks like a kind of bullying.
It looks like a kind of victimization of people who have already been victimized.
And it's like, okay, if this is a new realm of, let's say, politics in the US, I mean, should right-wing hackers start trying to hack Twitter and then dump a load of information about anti-terrorism or something like that?
Well, how could they make an argument that that would be immoral?
They couldn't, presumably.
And just for people who are listening and can't see, the flag I'm referring to there, because I can't get over how this has become real, it's the rainbow flag, except they have a little triangle in which you've got white, pink, blue, brown, and then black.
So trans and black people.
Yeah, but no white people.
Interesting.
Well, the white people can be trans.
And one of the people behind this, in which he's alleging to be the tranny demon hackers, is a person he posted on Gab that he's alleging.
So he says that this person here, who you can see on the right, is a typical man.
I watched some of his videos.
He sounded a bit effeminate back in the day.
He looks like he probably has many pictures of him with an open mouth, pointing at something incredible that science has done.
His girlfriend's brought him a nice Nintendo.
And then the next image of him all grown up, I suppose, being bold, wearing pink glasses with pink lipstick, and wearing, let's say, more feminine clothing.
I think that's still not enough to call them a demon.
The trans aspect I can agree with.
He says, Would you believe that this is the same person?
Because it is.
Demonic possession is a very real thing.
Daryl McAdams, one of the people behind the attack on Gab, needs Jesus.
Well, I mean, is he wrong?
So that's where he's getting the demonic part here.
It's not that they are demon worshippers or that they are, you know, sacrificing children or something like this.
He's saying that their lifestyle is unchristian and therefore is demon nonsense.
I mean, if anyone ever needed Jesus, it's probably Daryl there.
And he is transgender.
That is presumably true.
Otherwise, he's having a night out, I guess.
And this seems to be true.
Like, Daryl McAdams did have a Twitter account, so if we go to his Twitter account, this is his old one, in which you can see he's changed a bit.
But he has a new one, in which he refers to himself as Demon Tranny Hacker.
So...
Jesus Christ!
What a profile picture!
Hello, yes, I would like to look like a villain from a Mad Max film, please.
Yes, there's perfect, perfect.
You've drawn me exactly as I imagined myself.
I am a tranny demon hacker.
Oh, okay.
I guess the offence that might have been caused here is not true.
I guess this is actually a perfectly normal thing to say.
So Andrew Torber did nothing wrong.
I mean, on the plus side, strict no child zone in the bio, that's good.
I'm very supportive of that.
Yeah, no, I'm actually...
That's reassuring, to be honest.
But, yeah, I mean, I don't mean to say too much about this, but I just find it absurd that people are acting like there's some kind of transphobic attack from Andrew Torber.
And then the person in question just changed their name to it.
It's like, come on, they're kind of in on the joke here, like, this is funny to read.
Yeah, I mean, it is absolutely hilarious.
Not just the fact that they're, like...
Like, Andrew Torber's allegation, the fact that they're playing off it as well, well done.
It is good bans.
Yeah, it is good bans.
Just to get the kind of person that this is, so it's not just some rando or something, there are some tweets here, so this is...
What?!
This is a tweet from them saying, so why hasn't Twitter banned Nazis?
Because Jack is a Nazi.
It's not complicated.
I agree!
It's like, hmm.
What?!
No, I totally agree.
Legit, on the level.
Jack Dorsey is a Nazi.
Yeah, agreed.
Okay, and then the next one.
So, this is her talking about how communism didn't do nothing.
So, I love it when people like you are all like, you wouldn't say that if you lived in the USSR. Talk to anyone who did.
Lol, I've had friends who were born and raised in the USSR whose family members were imprisoned for being anarchists, and they still prefer its economics to America's.
Right, see, you know people who are put in the Gulag system, and you know that the Gulag system exists and you're not saying it didn't happen, and yet you still think that's preferable to the United States, which has no Gulag system to my knowledge.
And amazingly, like, the...
I love this.
This is an appeal to the moral correctness of socialism over the material benefit of capitalism and also moral benefit of capitalism.
But still, no, the true commitment to socialism is such that they will literally be imprisoned by the Soviet Union.
That wasn't real socialism.
Real socialism is perfect.
I've been reading one of the books you gave me.
What is it, Conquest of a Ravaged Century?
There's a good criticism in there.
Reflections.
Reflections of a Ravaged Century.
Robert Conquest.
There's a good point he actually makes there, which is sort of, if people are wondering how someone could get to this, which is that they're looking for a new system which will be Utopia.
So even if you have to kill 10,000 people, it would still be worth trying, because the results were going to be Utopia.
Even if it's you.
So even if her friend's family were literally being put in the Gulag system...
It was still worth it, because we were going to get to Utopia.
Or at least it was a good attempt to getting you to Utopia.
So it was totally worth the risk.
It was like, you are mentally ill if you think that.
I'm sorry.
But there's one more here from this tranny demon hacker.
I can't believe you're accusing those people of being mentally ill.
Well, you are if you think communism didn't do nothing.
That's the only way we'd figure that out.
If you think queer liberation or trans liberation are things that just don't reach working class Americans, you're reactionary trash and should F off.
I agree.
I'm liking Tranny Dillon Hackers takes, to be honest.
It's a good representation of how the left view the world now, that the working class are not the working men and women of the country who earn lower amounts of money.
Yeah, they're trans people.
No, the trans and queer class is the working class.
Yes.
And they're in class conflict with the heteros.
But I actually am really finding these quite refreshing tweets.
Very honest.
Yeah, exactly.
If there's one thing I approve of, it's being totally upfront and honest about your political opinions.
I respect that.
So Gab did make a bit of a response to this, in which they were praying for this person.
So, praying for you, Jesus loves you, in response to tranny demon hacking, being happy about being called a demon.
The CEO of Gab has specifically called me out as a demon.
Happy face, happy face, happy face.
And then Gab replied with, praying for you, Jesus loves you.
I kind of like how just non-threatening Andrew Torbett is.
Yeah.
I mean, of all the complaints about his, you know, radical espousing of Christianity every moment, he's not opening his mouth.
Like, every time, it's like that meme where you sit there and you start getting, like, after five seconds.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he just has to spell something about how Jesus is king.
Jesus loves you!
But it's not threatening at all.
It's just like, yeah, I know, Andrew.
It's all right.
My favorite was when the ADL called him an anti-Semite for saying Jesus is king.
It's like, what?
It's great.
But the organization, so this person belongs to, is apparently in trouble before.
Oh, really?
They hacked a bunch of law enforcement, I assume servers or something, and apparently they leaked 300 gigabytes of law enforcement data, and the Department of Homeland Security and Response has labeled them as a criminal hacker group, which is what that would be.
Right, so they've continued criminally hacking things.
Yeah, apparently they dumped the whole thing as well.
So that's one of the things where I dither with them.
They see themselves as some kind of, I don't know, spiritual successor to WikiLeaks.
And I have sympathies with WikiLeaks.
It's a generally good thing that you can expose if the government is acting criminally, doing very immoral things.
WikiLeaks did nothing wrong.
Yeah, so, I mean, shooting civilians in Iraq who had cameras, and they said they were RPGs.
Hillary Clinton's emails in which she reveals that she knows that the Saudis are funding ISIS. Yeah, I mean, these are important things to know.
Things of public interest and show how corrupt the system is.
But if you're just releasing mass dumps of information, I'm a bit...
I don't like Andrew Torber, therefore I hacked his website.
No, no, I mean, we're talking about the domain of the government here.
They linked 300 gigabytes of law enforcement data, and it's like, eh, I don't know.
I'm less supportive of this.
If you could get one gigabyte of stuff that shows that the police department was being illegal, sure, great.
That's a good whistleblowing thing, but this is, I think, more sketchy.
Interesting it's called Blue Leaks, though.
Yeah, we'll get to that.
That's interesting, isn't it?
So one of the things that came out of this leak was quite funny, was the password for Gab, I assume from Andrew Torper.
So the next one here is just them talking about some of the stuff that's come out.
So the password for March 2021 was, Jesus Christ is King, Trump won the election.
That was his password.
At least it's not ARC 1, I guess.
But I just love how much of an S poster Andrew Torper is.
He seems like a good guy to me.
He's a harmless guy who's just pro-free speech.
I will have my website.
God damn it.
Leave me alone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very, you know, Frontier-esque.
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
Anyway, but then Blue Leaks have a website in which you can give donations to help them and their hacktivism.
So Gab notices this, and even though they're labelled by the Department of Homeland Security as a criminal hacker group, they're still able to do things that Gab is not, such as accepting PayPal payments.
So PayPal will allow this criminal hacker group to get donations, but they will not let you work with Gab.
They will not let you donate to your favourite content creator because they've been a bad boy.
Yeah, loads and loads of content creators have had PayPal, Streamlabs, all of these things shut down, so they can't solicit donations through the Silicon Valley style things.
But this criminal hacker group can't.
Yeah, apparently that's the standard.
So Gab spent their time on Twitter tagging a bunch of other companies.
So in here, this is the archive link of their donation page, in which how you can donate, they give you different information.
So they have PayPal, Stripe, LibrePay, and then ActBlue is also on there.
So if you want to scroll down, so we can see just the, there's like a, what would you call it, like a box.
Yeah, so you can see all the different ones.
I don't know all of them.
Some of them might be American who also engage in SJW activism, but I just know that Stripe and PayPal do for sure.
ActBlue being on there is the surprising one because ActBlue is Democrat infrastructure for giving money to Democrats.
Yeah, I thought that money went to Joe Biden.
So it's an organization that's meant to set up donations from one group to another, but is always, always used for Democrats to basically funnel money to Democrat causes.
And this is something we've seen with Black Lives Matter, for example.
Yeah, exactly.
Very interesting.
If you want to go to the next one, this is just their page, and you can see, like, have ActBlue Express account sign in to give it faster, and there's a bunch of terms and conditions at the bottom referencing ActBlue.
So it's not just a misclick or something.
Amazing.
So they can illegally hack and be considered an illegal organization.
ActBlue will solicit money for them.
Can be openly associated with them and nothing seems to be happening.
That's incredible.
I don't think anything will happen.
I don't think any of these organizations will cut their funding.
And just to lay with the point a little bit more, we've just got ActBlue's website, just so you can look at it.
It's $8 billion.
Is that $8 billion?
Yep.
$100,000, $800,000.
Yeah, it's $8 billion they've raised since 2004 for Democrat organizations.
And then you just go to their Open Secrets link so you can see where their money goes.
If you scroll down to the, I think it's the last one here, you can see that they have Biden for president, $640 million donated.
Bernie 2020, $180 million donated.
Democrat Senatorial Campaign Committee, $116 million donated.
Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee, $100 million donated.
And then the Biden Victory Fund, $100 million donated, and it goes on and on.
But that's just for one year.
God, that's a huge amount of money as well.
This is ridiculously large amounts of money.
Pete for America, nearly $80 million.
John Ossoff for Senate, $88 million.
Warren for President, $93 million.
I mean, there's no Trump.
There's no Republican stuff.
No, no, no.
This is explicitly Democrat.
Yeah, for anyone who doesn't know, AgBlue is explicitly Democrat.
But I find that very interesting because the fact they're called Blue Leaks as well...
It kind of implies it's all kind of part of the same organization, really, doesn't it?
This is what it's like to be in a privileged position in which you can associate with such things in the mainstream Democratic Party.
No recollection.
You don't even have to be worried about it.
Republicans, I hope you're paying attention to this.
You know, watching CPAC, they're like, oh, we've all got to help each other.
That's what they do.
That's also one of the things I hate about the, let's just say the right wing in the United States, and especially the UK. The UK sucks for this.
In which they will see how far leftist organizations will help realign themselves with legitimately evil or criminal things.
And they're happy to do that.
There's no problem.
And I don't think the right should ever do that.
All the left should do that.
But the right in the United States, and especially in the UK, if it's even, you know, it's not illegal or even offensive, but just they think there might be controversy, they pull themselves out.
They don't want to give you the hotel.
They don't want to give you an agreement in which you do interviews.
This is the thing with Andrew Torber himself, in fact.
What has Andrew Torber ever really done wrong?
Like, he hosts a platform that has Nazis on it, seems to be the strongest accusation.
Yeah.
But that's not wrong.
But then Twitter has Nazis on it too.
Twitter has pedos on it.
As Trani Demon Hacker pointed out, Jack's a Nazi, by that standard.
And therefore, Jack's a Nazi.
But it's also, you know, Nazis do have human rights.
Like, if they haven't broken your terms of service, what are you meant to do here?
Yeah, and unfortunately, you know, for people who don't like Nazis, unfortunately, not being a Nazi requires you to believe that they have human rights.
Yeah.
Or else you're exactly the same as them.
So anyway.
But anyway, that's just a great little thing which I find...
Hilarious.
I mean, GAP's back up.
It seems to be working.
I had to sign up with a new account because I can't find my old account's login info.
I don't know what's wrong.
But yeah.
Demon tranny hackers.
They're a real thing.
Right, there we go.
But yeah, like I said, I don't think Andrew Torb has ever really done anything wrong other than just been offensive towards progressivism.
Like, he's blasphemed against these social justice warriors, and it's like, well, okay, good.
Like, I don't think that's bad.
Why are conservatives even vaguely, like, you know, hesitant?
Yeah, exactly.
That's what you're meant to be doing.
Yeah, exactly.
If you're not doing that on a daily basis, you're not very conservative.
You're not doing a very good job.
But yeah, anyway, so, moving on to the final segment, this will be a nice, relaxing one, because I... So, to be clear, right, to be very crystal clear about the position of the podcast of the Lotus Eaters...
Do you think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?
No, we don't.
But also, we do not...
Understand or endorse QAnon.
And I literally do not know anything about it.
It seems like numerology for boomer Republicans to me.
Because as far as I understand, I saw one graphic going around where apparently someone had posted on a message board somewhere, a number sequence was like 4, 10, and 20, and then at some point there was a parade or something with Trump, and there were people wearing vests, and in the picture that was posted to some official account, it had 4, 10, and 20 as numbers on their jerseys or something, and it's like, right, okay...
I don't think there's any kind of connection there, but the mythology of it, as I understand it, is that Q is some insider who says, oh, everything's going according to plan, trusts the plan and things like that.
I don't think there's any kind of plan.
I think it's all up in the air from both sides, right?
I think the Democrats are desperately struggling.
This is all part of Trump's plan.
Get Joe Biden and the White House for now.
Yeah, and then what?
You know, I think that's a terrible plan, if that is part of the plan.
But I don't think there is a plan.
I think that everyone is flying blind.
I think that both the Trump campaign and the Biden camp are just, they're doing what they can with what they have, and neither of them have control over the situation.
And what it seems to be is a way of trying to exert control over the situation.
So, ah, when something good happens, ah, we knew that was going to come.
And when something bad happens, you've got some ready-made cope.
Right?
That's right there.
But this thing, QAnon is like deep labyrinthine, but I'm not trying to disparage people who believe in it because I don't know.
I just don't want to be mean, I guess.
But I don't really know anything about it.
I've never seen an activist for it that's convinced me even slightly.
No.
No.
And I don't think there's any kind of plan or anything like that.
But I don't think these people are bad people.
I think there's a natural inclination to see a will behind a sequence of events if...
They are otherwise difficult to explain in isolation.
To put it in the context of a grand plan, I mean, this is what the Democrats were all doing about Russia.
How did Trump beat us?
How did Trump beat us?
Russia must have done this.
Russia must have done that.
It's like, no.
Look, you actually can explain Trump's victory without resorting to Russia, and you probably can explain Biden's victory without resorting to...
I don't know.
I don't even know what QAnon's main contention is, to be honest.
But we'll just call them Epstein skeptics.
Because that's the only thing that seems concrete.
Yeah.
Before all of this exploded, it was like, okay, did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?
And did he have connections in which he engaged in pedophilia with the elite of the United States?
And it seems to be a reasonable inference that that's true.
He certainly seems to have been a pedo.
Certainly has contacts with a lot of rich people in the United States.
I mean, there's a photo of Bill Clinton getting his shoulders massaged by one of Epstein's trafficked victims.
And he just happened to kill himself while waiting for trial on all this.
It's like...
Yeah.
And so it's just, look, there is definitely something nefarious going on with some portion of the elite class of the United States and internationally.
I don't know how big that is.
We know at least one person was tried and convicted for it, which was Epstein himself.
Maxwell will probably get the same treatment at some point.
There's probably something there that some people are involved in, but that's as far as we can say because that's all we have proof for.
So how does CNN say that that's not true?
Well, this is CNN trying to explain QAnon, and I mean, it's just a really, really good bit of entertainment.
So the first clip is what QAnon currently believe, as told to us by people who have left QAnon.
So let's hear it.
Does anybody understand what is supposed to be happening on March 4th?
Well, so March 4th, they're thinking that Donald Trump is going to come back and he's going to be the president.
Apparently, what they said is way back when, it was like 1871, inauguration day used to happen on March 4th, and then Donald Trump will be back and he'll be inaugurated as either the 19th president of the United States Republic or the first president of some new something.
Okay, I mean, that's quite exciting.
that's only like two days away that's obvious nonsense yeah it's obvious nonsense but i mean it sounds it sounds like arthurian romance where it's like you know in in britain's time of greatest need arthur will come back from avalon and save us all right that's what it's sounding like to me and so it just seems like a way of coping with difficulties um but uh but i mean extremism in the military is something that the new york times has been in fact this was published today uh very very concerned about
and so i don't know that something won't happen on march the 4th I don't have any information at all, but they're certainly concerned about this sort of thing.
And this kind of attitude, this kind of thought process, is probably what's behind the need or the driving belief from the Biden administration to keep troops at the Capitol.
And stoking fears of internal extremism in the military probably isn't going to help that mindset.
That doesn't make sense, though, because if you were concerned about the military being extreme, and therefore I'm going to invite the military to the capital...
Well, they were concerned about veterans, because veterans are apparently disproportionately represented in the capital riots, and so they're like, oh god, but it was only after the riot they learned this, of course, and so now they needed the troops to make sure that conspiracy theorists weren't going to launch an assault on the capital...
Again, this all sounded like a great movie, isn't it?
But now they've realized that, oh my God, actually, the extremists were very military minded.
So all of these National Guard that we've taken from the provinces, these aren't federal troops, these are National Guard.
So these have come from the various provinces of the empire, might well be QAnon supporting extremists.
It's, oh God.
So you can imagine the kind of mindset that the Biden administration and CNN have put themselves into when they're surrounded by QAnon and they're armed.
It's, oh God, now they're in the house.
It's like, Terrifying.
Whereas everyone else is at home thinking QAnon is this thing on the internet that's a bit silly.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly it.
It's like for everyone else, QAnon just seems like boomer astrology, boomer cope.
But anyway, so let's talk about what they think is going to happen next.
They also think that there's going to be this great financial reset, both in our country and around the world, where Debts are just going to be forgiven, where if you have a mortgage, you don't owe on it anymore.
It's just so ludicrous, you know, to put it bluntly.
I mean, just I still have family members that don't even believe that Joe Biden is president.
So I really enjoy the way that CNN had clipped those two pieces together.
You can tell that they'd all been saying more, but they've taken out excerpts and put those together.
Because this is really interesting, because the first bit, that there's going to be some sort of great financial reset.
Well, I mean, that's what we're being told from the World Economic Forum.
I mean, the Great Reset versus all debts will be forgiven are just two different things.
Sure.
But I can see CNN clipping that to try and make it sound like they're the same conspiracy theory or something.
No, no, no.
They didn't clip that.
That's the thing.
The thing is, I think they can easily say, yeah, there is going to be some sort of great financial change coming.
Because, I mean, like, Biden's printing money like nothing else.
And so is Trump.
And so is Trump.
So is Rishi Sunak.
Like, it turns out that everyone's gotten to the opinion now that it's just like, you know what, just money printed goes burr, you know?
And, I mean, that will lead to a great economic reset where you can't pay your mortgage and you can't pay, you know, I mean...
Your debts will be forgiven because they're...
The debt is worth nothing.
Yeah, because none of the money is worth anything.
So what are you going to do?
Pay your debt?
You can't.
And so it's not actually absurd to say that there is some sort of great financial reset coming, because maybe there is.
And again, it seems to tie into the great reset mindset, which Klaus Schwab probably doesn't even disagree with.
So it's interesting, right?
And the second one there, that Joe Biden isn't president.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
They juxtapose it with something that's obviously not true, right?
So, I mean, obviously Joe Biden is the president, obviously.
Whether you think that's legitimate or not is a different discussion.
I know, but I bet the editor at CNN, they're smart people.
They know they clip that for a purpose.
Exactly, because now the great financial reset and Joe Biden not being president are just basically as crazy as each other.
Which is also as crazy as QAnon.
Which is also as crazy, exactly.
And so this is exactly the point.
But this, I mean, there's a part of me that really enjoys conspiracy theories, so I like hearing the creative nature of them, and this is a pretty good one.
Let's go to the next one.
The person that I started talking to anyways that had initially got me into QAnon, he was like, you know, Joe Biden's not even real.
That's why he's wearing a mask all the time, because the fake face that he's wearing, the mouth doesn't move correctly when he talks.
Yeah, so they really believe that Joe Biden is not even Joe Biden.
No, they don't, though.
There's no way they actually believe that.
Actually, they do believe that.
I bet they say it, but I bet.
No, if you scroll down, John, you can see this is from February.
It's not even very old, right?
If you just scroll down, you can see the pictures where they're comparing Biden with Biden.
And I'm not convinced myself, obviously, because what it looks like to me, if you go down a bit more, John, because there's some pointing at his ears and things like this...
And, yeah, there we go.
There we go.
So, to me, I mean, if you look at the cheeks, it's very definitely the same man.
You can tell the cheek structure is still the same.
What it is, is just that he's gotten old and saggy.
Like, your nose and your ears continue growing your entire life.
And so they're like, oh, his ear's bigger.
Yeah, his ear is bigger because he's saggy.
Yeah, exactly.
And so it's like Joe Biden has become an old man.
It's like, okay, so it is a real conspiracy theory, but it's obvious nonsense.
Like, just of all the people, if you were going to create a body...
Oh, yeah, also, you might be Jim Carrey.
Joe Biden is actor Jim Carrey.
Just why?
But also, it just raises the point.
Like, why is the Biden administration scared of this?
Exactly!
Exactly.
Do you honestly think these people are going to...
Oh, come on.
Come on, right?
And so, yeah...
Madness, right?
It's obvious nonsense.
They're going to help me as Jim Carrey.
We've got to clear up now.
Yeah, exactly.
And, I mean, it keeps going as well.
Everyone is a clone in this worldview.
Anyway, let's go on to the next clip because we get to hear about who the cause of QAnon is.
Do you guys think that there are particular media types, media personalities, who also are a gateway to conspiracy theories and QAnon?
Yeah, you.
Well, Newsmax, which is a TV station, definitely, their reportings are really off the wall.
I can remember when Glenn Beck joined Fox News was when my mom became very susceptible to conspiracy theories.
She hung on his every word.
And then in the more recent years, it's been people like Tucker Carlson.
So we go from Newsmax to Glenn Beck to Tucker Carlson.
Yes, Tucker Carlson.
The font of QAnon conspiracy theories.
Nonsense.
But again, they know what they're doing.
I've never watched Newsmax, so I actually don't know what they produce.
They're very, very partisan, but I just say they seem like MSNBC. Yeah.
So I'm not saying that couldn't be the source of a conspiracy theory.
MSNBC were the source of conspiracy theory.
Yeah, that's a point to mention, which is they will never see themselves as ever engaging in such stuff.
Exactly.
But what we're looking at is the kind of, almost like the avatars of the left and right partisan movement.
You know, where Rachel Maddow is screeching about Russia, Newsmax may be screeching about Jeffrey Epstein and QAnon and whatever.
And it's like, okay, so you've got these two partisan worldviews.
That are dichotomous.
You know, they revolve around each other.
They're obsessed with each other.
And if you're not in either one, they both look nuts.
And that's how I feel looking at it.
And so, yeah, we get on to the alternative worldview.
And this is why this is important, because after leaving QAnon, they don't just become normal people.
They become radical left-wingers.
Happens every time.
Show of hands, how many of you today think that we do have a domestic terrorism...
And or white supremacy problem in this country.
Oh, for God's sake.
Just everything happened with Trump and, you know, just his view on the whole thing.
And it just really, you know, ignites that fire of white supremacy and racism.
My concern is that a lot of the...
The threads that weave a lot of these conspiracies together in the Q world are very thinly veiled white supremacy, very thinly veiled anti-Semitism.
When I was in these groups, I was like, no, we're not racist.
Like, you know, I'm not sneaking out on Wednesday nights to KKK meetings.
Like, so I thought I wasn't racist.
Being out of it, I have taken it upon myself to have conversations and I've bought books and I'm reading and I'm learning.
But as far as domestic terrorism, I think QAnon is a domestic terrorist group.
Right.
They went from one extreme to the other.
Exactly.
You've seen this happen before.
Remember the guy who was...
This has become a narrative among left-wingers as well about YouTube.
The YouTube rabbit hole.
And there was that guy, I think it's Caleb, came out and he was like, I watched Stefan Molyneux and I got really into race theory and stuff.
And I don't say that he didn't.
But then he was like, and now I'm watching Vosch and ContraPoints and that's all better.
I'm just like, no, you became a communist.
What's wrong with you?
Find the centrist middle.
Yeah, just something that represents reality.
I mean, like, oh, well, who believes that white supremacy is a problem in the United States?
And they'll raise their hands.
Like...
Great, so you went from one conspiracy to the other.
I mean, good job CNN, you know, condemning yourself there as conspiracy theorists.
Exactly, exactly.
The threat of white supremacy seems to be a massive conspiracy theory to me.
And what I like is this woman as well, where she's like, well, I wasn't a racist when I was in QAnon.
We weren't going to KK, McKay meetings.
So, I mean, I've tried to look into QAnon.
I don't see anything about race in there.
It's always about a shadowy cabal of elites that are controlling things and raping children and body doubles and all this sort of stuff.
It's never like the blacks and the Jews run the world or something.
No, no, no.
If anything, it's kind of disproportionately the rich white people run the world, if you want to look at it through that lens.
But they're not.
They're looking at it through rich people run the world.
Exactly.
It's class-based.
If anything, it's class-based.
It's not race-based.
Not that I'm saying that it's good or bad or anything like that.
I'm just trying to be accurate to the representation of what I've experienced of it.
And so it's so weird watching them, like, yeah, like you say, just switch to wokeism and being like, well, actually, the white supremacy conspiracy theory is the one I believe now.
And CNN's Al Bravo.
That's the right one to believe.
But anyway, so let's go on to the next clip.
They will switch how they talk and communicate, whether it's online or over the phone.
They're going to switch the meaning of their words so nobody can pick up and flag it.
I have already picked up on that.
Do you have any examples of that?
We're going to get an example of that in a minute.
So they're going to start creating like a new secret language for Q, for QAnon supporters now?
What, like CNN are, or the Q guys are?
The Q guys are.
And so they're going to use this secret language to slip by the algorithmic detectors.
To do what?
Like, I mean...
Okay, so let's say that some QAnon guy gets on Twitter...
Well, it's just proof that they're being persecuted, to be honest.
Well, yeah, it is.
But let's say some QAnon guy gets on Twitter, slips by the algorithmic detection, and says, you know, whatever it is in his secret shibboleth language.
Well, what happens then?
No one can read it.
No one can read it.
But let's assume that everyone understands it.
What happens then?
People find out the truth that Joe Biden is Jim Carrey.
Exactly!
Like, what are we being threatened with?
Yeah.
You know?
It's so weird.
But the thing they default is from then, it goes from like the secret language to obviously terrorism.
But anyway, so sneaky, sneaky QAnon.
And notice how she said that a certain demographic is being left unsaid here because they're switching words to avoid detection.
Well, the thing that they call this demographic is this.
They don't like a particular demographic here in America.
Yes.
And they refer to them as Canadians.
So what?
The Canadians are all pedos now.
I don't know!
The thing is...
That's a white supremacist movement right there.
They refer to them as Canadians.
Now, I mean...
I thought about this long and hard, and I assume that the certain demographic that they've left unsaid is not a racial one, even though they think it is a racial one.
I think that they mean what they would call demon KKK rats.
Partisans for the other side.
That's what they don't like.
I think it's the Democrat pedos that they're referring to as Canadians, but I might be totally wrong.
I have no idea.
That's a great bit of code.
It is such a funny statement.
The CNN anchors, they call them Canadians.
It's like, yes.
But anyway, they clearly think the boog is coming.
Let's play the last clip.
I'm trying to warn everybody of what I see that's going to come, and if this group cannot be stopped, and when March 4th comes and goes, we're going to be hoping and praying that they push another date out there, because if not, the insurrection is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to what's going to happen.
Right.
The day of the rake is coming, guys.
They're going to get rid of all the Canadians.
But I think that Canadian is being used as a synonym for progressive.
Okay.
And I think it's being done by, like, Southerners, like Southern American style, who...
They could have probably said Californian in its place.
I might be totally wrong, though.
That's a guess by me.
If I'm wrong, let me know.
Who cares, you know?
Well, I mean, I want to be accurate when I'm representing wacky conspiracy theories...
So, you know, just...
But anyway, yeah, Day of the Rake.
Day of the Rake.
It's inevitable.
If March 4th comes and the Day of the Rake has not arrived or a new date has not been put out, we're all in trouble.
That's how you know Q's real or not.
Donald Trump comes out to give a speech on March 4th with a rake in his hand.
I mean, if there is some kind of rake-related imagery at Trump's next speech, I'll be like, okay, fine, I'm convinced.
You got me, I'm convinced.
Because what do you want to bet there will be?
Just some guy cleaning up some leaves or something now, and you've got to be like, oh, goddammit.
Anyway, so we'll get to the video comments.
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We had a video comment from Michael Cameron, but apparently the audio in it was unusable.
So could you please re-record it and then resubmit it tomorrow?
But in the meantime, let's go to that oil guy who I can see on the screen.
Guys...
After Friday's podcast and group chat, I felt compelled to go and buy a pull-up bar.
And after a couple of fruitless attempts to pull myself off the ground, I thought, maybe this should be a tenant of dadism.
Thou shalt lift.
If you cannot lift up yourself, how can you lift up your family?
Sold.
I think that's good.
Thou shalt lift.
It's a bit sewer science sounding, but it does...
It's a good...
It is a good thing to be able to lift yourself.
It's not science, it's philosophy.
You know what I mean.
It's very wishy-washy sounding.
But there's nothing wrong with that.
It's...
You've got to get these catchy things.
If you can't lift yourself off the ground, how are you going to get anyone else up?
I can go with that.
But thou shalt lift.
I think that's good.
I'm happy with that.
It's a tenet of dadism.
If you want to send us comments that we read out on the site, we'll take a selection from the page.
So if you remember, you can obviously give us a comment.
Tyler Williamson says, building on my point from yesterday about seeking future wives at churches, do you feel like the general population wasn't ready for atheism, more specifically being the arbiters of their own morality?
No, I don't think that's...
I think the problem is that atheism itself isn't really an ideology.
And so if you're jettisoning Christianity, which it comes with a worldview, and if you say, well, okay, but I don't believe in God, then that means I'm going to jettison, you know, all of that, then you have to replace it with something.
And I think the problem is that it didn't come with anything else other than essentially communism.
Well, there's a point being made.
I don't want to bring up just whatever I'm reading as a source, but the point he makes in that book about the Marxists is that there's actually kind of a predictiveness about it.
The fact that it's the temperament of these people that become revolutionaries, that's pretty telling.
To be honest, I think there is a sort of personality or temperament.
I'm sure the psychologists can tell me something better.
Yeah.
Of the kind of people who become a priest class in society, I bet that there's much similarities between Aztec priest people and the SGWs of today.
Yeah, absolutely.
The same kind of personality matrix.
I could be completely wrong.
No, I think that's probably correct.
Um...
But yeah, I mean, the problem with the atheists is they think that they can continue with Christian morality without the Christianity.
And it's like, okay, but there are some requirements that underpin this.
And if you don't have these, then you get radical leftists who come in and say, well, hang on, what's any of this connected to?
Let's just blow that up and then carry on.
And then suddenly the atheist community is going on pride parades and stuff like this.
And it's like, okay.
Not even that, I mean they're denouncing science in the name of inclusivity.
Yeah, but I'm down for a bit of anti-science activism.
Save that for a premium podcast.
We will.
Raymond Colgan says, Notice how it's women creators, not female creators.
Yes.
Because if it was female creators, that'd be transphobic.
Dave Carter says, Women on Twitch are the reason we have eThoughts, and by extension, OnlyFans.
They sure have shaped the industry.
Whether it was positive or not is another question.
Yeah, I mean, history is probably not going to look on OnlyFans kindly.
That's what I... I think he's saying something spicy, though.
I think he's saying women's impact on the internet.
And on civilization itself.
Yeah, that's a conversation.
Yeah, for a premium podcast.
Jan Marcher says, yeah, women are very successful on Twitch, especially the ones with big cleavages and basically making soft porn.
So empowering for women.
Yeah, that's another thing, isn't it, right?
About all of this, like, women are doing so great and all that sort of stuff.
It's like, yeah, but it's all pornography.
You're selling your bodies.
You are literally sexual gratification.
Sexual titillation for men is women's success in the views of progressives.
I hate to use the term sex positive, where I think it should be legal and fine.
Sure.
I'm not saying it should be illegal.
Yeah, yeah.
But I can't help but have sympathy with the people who say, well, this is clearly not empowerment.
Yeah.
If this is empowerment, then nothing has changed, right?
Then prostitution is the most empowering form of a woman's life.
I mean, is that what you're really arguing, feminists?
Yeah.
OnlyFans is the future of women, is it?
CharlieTheBeagle says, Hey Carl, is it okay to simp if it's your wife?
The question is, why would you want to simp for your wife?
How do you define simping?
I don't know.
But either way, no.
You don't simp for your wife?
No.
I'm not even sure what the term means here.
Is this undue praise or is it...
I think it's unrestrained praise.
Unrestrained, yeah.
I mean, that would be wrong to do...
Yeah, no, you shouldn't simp for anyone.
Praise where appropriate.
Also in Ireland, for the first two weeks of March, to promote the Irish language.
Oh, that's cool.
Shame we're not allowed to leave the country.
Harry Inglative says, I just returned from a future where the SJWs won.
Apparently all language is offensive, so I did my best to ask for a description of what it is like, and they replied, XXXX, XXXX, and...
Not sure what it means but it doesn't look good.
Very good.
"Hey Carl, in Ireland there is a kind of equivalent to the French Academy called Angum, the scheme.
They mostly deal with the Irish language dictionary and translating new English words into Irish." God, it's almost like we're in the position where everyone else is afraid of the influence of the English language because it's a tool that's available to anyone.
It's like Chinese culture.
You know how anyone who conquers China becomes Chinese?
Yeah.
Like any culture, sorry, any language that interacts with English becomes English.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is how we take over the world.
Charlie Rogers.
Wow, this French language thing has provoked a lot of discussion.
Part of the French trying to keep the French French sounds reasonable.
A lot of modern terms introduced to Welsh are either Welsh-mutated English spelling or a weird cross between a new term and something existing in the language.
Welsh is complicated enough as it is.
Yeah, Welsh is the language of Cthulhu.
I mean, I agree that language shouldn't be exterminated, but if you are French and you allow English words to become part of the French language, I mean, like Chinese does this, it has English words in it, right?
Chinese has not disappeared, like it still exists, and it still will continue to exist.
But what I find really funny about it is it's a completely fruitless endeavour, because if you've got one area that's like a cauldron of concepts, and these concepts bubble up Naturally, you know, just heterogeneously.
They come up because people need to express a certain kind of thing, and that becomes a part of the natural method and production of the language.
And if you've got a kind of crystallized language, it's like, no, we have defined all concepts.
A, that's going to stultify your own thought.
That's going to prevent you from thinking things that you otherwise would think in response to what's going on in the world.
But it also means that, like, the language that allows that to happen becomes a dangerous and subversive thing that you have to be like, oh no, get away from us, get away from us.
No, we're going to talk to you!
Endlessly defensive.
Exactly.
You're endlessly fighting a defensive war.
But the point there is, like, this won't destroy the French language, it'll just change it a bit, which is fine.
But it won't change it from the top.
But it's also the absurdity of, like, well, there's the natural order of language, which is what English is.
We're not the only language to do this either, but we're just one of the best examples, because it's gone globally and whatnot, and we're very good at taking loanwords.
But, like, the alternative is this sort of authoritarian, I don't know if I want to say Marxist way in which we'll control all of society through determining what words are words and what aren't.
It's quite Napoleonic.
I mean, that's obviously absurd.
Yeah.
Like, this just won't work.
The kind of Bonapartist view of the world.
It's like, well, sorry.
Because, I mean, it doesn't work.
I mean, even in France, like, email is used.
Even though the academy doesn't like it, people just use it.
Because it's useful.
Because that's the only metric in which language passes or fails.
Is it useful to transmit a concept?
If it is, and it's convenient, then we'll use it.
And if it's not, then we're not going to use the 500-character French version of the word email.
White Hot Peppers, our roving reporter from the Capitol.
Hi, everyone.
Thank you for the nice messages.
That awesome core childhood memory for Carl is the Americans have better food.
But honestly, it's not that hard when the British standard is eating baked beans for breakfast.
Look, there's nothing wrong with beans, apart from the fact they're full of carbs.
Okay, but taste-wise, they taste good.
Personally, talking to the other soldiers, I think the only reason that Biden administration should be scared of the military is if they keep feeding us garbage.
Something you don't want is a bunch of hungry, angry men out in the cold and rain with rifles.
Also, do you think the Canadian reference is from South Park?
Yeah, it might be.
Blame Canada.
Yeah, it might be a South Park reference.
It's like, you know, the Canadians, they're not our guys.
I don't know.
Who knows?
I just love the fact that the CNN anchor had to say that, like, sensibly.
Who was this 4chan, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Same energy.
Yeah, exact same energy.
That's right.
Doug Dimidom says, ironically, the US Navy tried to ditch ratings for alphanumeric codes because they had the word man in it.
as such, seamen, firemen, uh, damaged control men in an attempt to be more inclusive.
It faced so much backlash from the Navy that they had to reverse it in 2016.
For reference, naval ratings such as boat, swain mate have existed since the first ship sailed the seas a thousand, uh, thousands of years ago.
Uh, yes.
And they, they come from a very, uh, pre-scientific era.
I mean...
Yeah.
Andrew Torber's description.
Yeah.
Which wasn't rejected by the hacker.
It wasn't rejected by...
It was actually embraced by the hacker.
No, it wasn't.
Because it turns out being a Slaneshi demonette is actually quite a step up.
Usurper in chief.
What if we all join the Conservative Party and vote for our own candidates?
Yeah, what if?
Once...
John's written a message, I guess.
That's a good point, but I don't think I want to read it out because I don't want to arouse the ire of a hacker.
That sounds like a Canadian now.
Yeah, right.
And vote for our own candidates.
Once enough of us are in, we can open the door for Carl, elect him Prime Minister, and then raise a glass to many leftist ears.
I really do not want to be the Prime Minister of anything.
The idea about subverting the communists, Freudian slip, Conservative Party.
So the last data I saw, they had 100,000 members, but you'd have to get at least 20,000-30,000 people together to do it all at once.
It would have to be a large number.
With Gerard and all that, I think membership went up 10,000 in UKIP? 12,000.
Which was a lot of effort.
I mean, yeah, and that's pretty good.
Don't get me wrong.
But it would take a concerted effort of pretty much all of the alternative content creators to do it.
Like Paul Joseph Watson, Dankby...
Like every alternative person in the UK. Yeah.
All joining the Conservatives at once.
Yeah.
Which...
I mean, it would require a huge amount.
And the thing is, the Conservatives probably have quite significant gatekeeping methods, so...
Not optimistic.
It's not a viable strategy.
Yeah.
Michael Waters, here's my theory.
QAnon is a red herring for the Epstein stuff, like the whole Wormhole X for Stargate.
Now, anyone that brings up elite pedophiles gets, oh, that QAnon shit.
Yeah, it's entirely possible that QAnon is a total psyop.
And well-meaning people have bought into it.
Peter Turner says, Are all Republicans domestic terrorists?
If we have moved the goalposts on what a terrorist is, are leaders like Corbyn right to condemn the murder of said terrorists?
Maybe we shouldn't support their killing as one day it could be ours.
Well, I think there is going to become a time where MAGA is just going to be described as domestic terrorism.
And we're not far off from it.
But I mean, it was.
A few weeks ago, I think it was like January 7th or 8th.
That's what CNN was practically running.
Yeah, but I mean, like, officially.
Becoming more mainstream.
The Biden administration will classify it as terrorism, I think.
Chris says, you asked for suggestions for content, so here's one.
You all get together and discuss or pitch items that you wanted to put in the podcast.
These conversations probably get hilarious and shitposty so you could record them, clip the best parts, and make it into a short that you could put out after the podcast.
It's not as organized as that.
No.
If it was going to be the stuff that we wouldn't usually promote, the whole video would just be censored.
Yeah.
So...
Yeah.
Yes.
But, like, we don't really have the space for that sort of thing.
But thank you for...
Yeah, thanks for the suggestion, though.
What we do is we just basically arrange them ourselves.
You know, he does his section, I do my section.
So we actually don't know what each other's got, which probably makes the reactions more entertaining, to be honest.
Makes it more fun to do as well.
Yeah, it makes it more fun to do.
Like the Canadian thing.
I just love that so much.
Tyler says, Man, the YouTube strike was the best thing that's happened to this show.
The tone is lighter, the topics are more biting, just great stuff.
Dev, make more videos.
Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
I mean, I'm enjoying the fact that I can say tranny.
Tranny.
Just say it.
Liberated.
Welcome to the brave new world, the frontier of the internet, where we can say the T word.
I said to you before as well, it's not even a slur to me at all, because in electronics we used to call transistors trannies all the time, so it's complete non-starter.
I don't even get why it's derogatory.
Take Rose of Dawn, that's a content creator we know who's transgender.
Calling her a tranny, I wouldn't feel like that would be a slur at all.
It just doesn't come in my lexicon.
But in Silicon Valley's...
I don't think she'd be bothered.
But that's the thing.
All of this is always measured by what does people in Silicon Valley think of the thing?
Yeah.
Whereas...
I mean, remember when Milo went on his Dangerous Faggot tour?
Yeah.
And now you can't even say faggot on YouTube.
But I mean, also just the word cunt.
Like the fact that in the United States, that's not an accepted thing.
But in Australia...
In the UK and Australia, it's pretty common.
Like, it's not even offensive, to be honest.
So yeah, it's interesting how the Californian imperialism has affected language across the Anglosphere.
It's getting a bit French, really.
I don't approve of this central planning of language.
No, it's not good.
No.
Corwizard says, the Annons are mainly S-posting religious types, some of whom will read very deeply into every number Q drops, but I think most just believe there are dodgy elites and the election was stolen.
There are a lot of very strange coincidences, but with all media these days, who the hell knows what to believe?
Yeah, I don't think there's anything to it.
Like I said, I don't think there's a plan.
Henry says, regarding your comment about friends yesterday, my first thought was how many of them unfriended me, some I considered quite close, whilst going through my cancellation a few months ago.
We may be the ones who don't unfriend them, but we cannot stop the reverse.
This will lead to more and more social echo chambers unless we change their behaviour somehow.
Yeah, that's true, but on the plus side, when you start going into this kind of circular firing squad, they'll eventually destroy themselves out of purity spiralling.
So in a year's time or something, you'll find that friend group is completely blown apart because someone will have posted something on you.
This isn't an L for you either, someone unfriending you.
That's an L for them.
I mean, this is what an extremist does before they become a terrorist, is they cut themselves off from all of their friends.
So them doing that, I mean, that's not common on you at all.
That's an embarrassment of them.
Yes, it's their intolerance, not yours.
John says, what is your opinion on the possibility of calling someone a pedo is the right version of Godwin's Law?
Yes.
No, that's fair.
Elon Musk probably shouldn't have called that dude a pedo for rescuing some kids from a cave.
Surely the right-wing version of this is communist.
Pedo's just something I feel like the working class do.
Yeah.
I don't feel like the upper class has ever talked like that.
But they are communists.
But not all of the people who are being called pedos are pedos.
No, I'm joking.
I think he's right to say that it's a Godwin Law type thing, but I don't think it's of the right.
I think it's of the lower classes, whereas calling someone a communist would be the right's version.
Sure.
Jay says, I'm a strength and conditioning coach stuck in Progressive Seattle.
Does Lotus East Office have a pull-up program in place, or are you all just guessing your way through it?
We are, of course, guessing our way through it.
And Dylan says, I've never watched it.
I never really got into it for some reason.
I was always a Star Trek fan.
Like a nerd.
Oh my god, that sounds like a lot of work.
We've got the purity of the Japanese language because we don't have your foreign words touching it.
So we're creating new alphabets to spell your words.
That's a lot of work.
That is quite a lot.
This does kind of happen.
I mean, I don't know anything about the Japanese alphabet, but I know in Korean, for example, like the old style used to have like a lot of Chinese, what do you call them?
Not letters, symbols.
Characters.
Yeah, characters being incorporated for some things.
Apparently you still get them in some places just because of cultural imperialism.
Right.
So it's not new.
Like, they've done this with the chinks for a while, so I guess they're doing it with the westerners now.
Damn white people.
Can you not?
Probably not.
Okay.
I'll come up with a slur for white people.
The crackers.
There we go.
Now everything's fine.
Don't worry, I'm being equally offensive.
Atheists replace Christianity with humanism, which is essentially socialism, says Alex.
Yeah, the humanistic program has been poorly defined, in my opinion, and leads into socialism.
It's not explicitly socialist itself, but there was a time when I would call myself a humanist, but now I'm like, oh god, do I even want that?
Sounds cringe.
It's a bit cringe, but it's also connected to, like, left-wing politics.
And I don't want to be associated with left-wing politics.
I don't want people thinking I'm crazy.
Yeah.
So, you know.
But anyway, right.
So, are there any other comments?
Regarding the Tranny Diamond Hackers take on the USSR, if someone were to create a utopia, it would lead to stagnation and failure and cannot be improved on.
And then there's another utopia.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Perfection is a crystalline structure.
You know, it's not life.
Life is not about perfection.
Life is about excellence.
And this is what we should be thinking of, not like creating utopias.
Well, surely excellence is...
Is that not sort of close to it, though?
Surely life is about improvement.
Yeah, but excellence is just a description of a state of affairs that is of high approval.
Okay.
Right, so it's an excellent athlete.
You know, it's an excellent building.
It's not a perfect athlete.
Yeah, exactly.
Nothing's perfect, but it is.
And excellent is a relative position, right?
But perfect is an absolute position.
Capstasher says, Hey guys, I thought I should give you an idea of what the situation is in STEM courses in UK unis.
We've had two rounds of ethics lessons so far.
The first one, they gave us slides on equality, equity, and quotes from Karl Marx.
Bloody hell.
STEM.
Yeah.
Marxism is not scientific because it's not falsifiable.
The Marxists will always claim that they were right under every situation.
And so they, I mean, in any philosophy of science, you can go to it and they will say that psychoanalysis, Freud's psychoanalysis and Marxism are two premier examples of pseudoscience.
They are not scientific.
The other one was live and I got called a sexist by the other students in the chat.
For saying maybe the gender gap in STEM courses in the UK is just because women are less interested in them and there is no institutional sexism in the UK.
My god, it's like we're in 2015.
It's like Groundhog Year, man.
We're forever going to be having these goddamn conversations.
You're going to get James DeMorde, by the way, at the rate you're going.
Also, don't write a very, very tepid, middle-of-the-road, scientifically valid note internally that says, look, by the way, if we look at these studies, it turns out that men have a natural inclination towards mechanical things.
Don't say anything true.
Yeah, don't say anything true.
Women have a natural inclination towards social things.
Exactly.
What are you talking about?
Also, regarding my comment last week, I feel I really made my girlfriend look bad.
She's really lovely, just more left-leaning than me, so she doesn't like the podcast.
Keep up the great work.
Don't worry, I remember the comment.
I didn't think badly of her or anything.
It's up to her.
If she doesn't like the podcast, that's fine.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Wow.
Lawrence says, if you don't like our podcast, you're a bad person.
Get it?
That's how you know.
How else are you going to know?
What objective standard do you have to call upon?
Leftist?
None.
That's what.
Lawrence says, the additional alphabet is phonetic.
It's also used for emphasis.
It's similar to using italics.
And Jarl of Britannia says...
Quite interesting, actually.
Yeah, it is.
Putting all foreign words in italics.
Disgusting.
Foreign.
I mean, based.
Well, no, you've actually subscribed to an idea like this before, because you were mentioning about should we really call the Quran...
Sorry, no, should we say that Allah is Allah?
Surely you should say that it's just God, because, I mean, we have an English word for that.
Yeah.
Instead of having to segregate it off as the Islamic God.
Yeah, and if they claim that it's the same God, why would they even use the Arabic spelling?
But is that not you doing the same thing here, where you're sort of saying that, no, this is the English way of doing it?
Well, I'm just saying that this is how you would say it in English, because it's not a new word, it's not a new concept.
Or, it is a new concept, and the Muslim God is not the same as the Christian God.
Yeah.
It's up to the Muslims if they want to be like, yeah, that's...
I suppose, like, the word caliphate?
I mean, do we have a word for a Christian state that's exclusively Christian?
Theocracy?
Exactly, but it's not the same.
Like, caliphate just...
Caliphate is exclusively Muslim, yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, it can't be easily translated into English, I don't think.
No, not really.
No.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Journal of Britannia, given the cultural clash between Islam and its self-proclaimed goal of subjugating and breeding out other societies, I'm not sure that breeding out is actually a self-proclaimed goal of Islam.
I hate to have to steel man them here.
It's conversion.
It's conversion, yeah.
Is it wrong to want to live in a society without Islam?
I fear that in the EU, the politically correct leaders open the gates for Islam and mass immigration, and there'll be no stopping it.
No, I don't think it's wrong to want to live in a society that doesn't have a particular kind of ideology.
But the thing is, then they'll say, yeah, but we feel the same way about right-wingers.
Now what do we do?
And it's like, great.
So we've already abandoned any liberal pretenses of tolerance, and we've given our opponents the club with which to beat us, and I think they will beat us.
So, I don't know.
It seems like a dangerous road to go down the roping doors to more problems than we solve.
Chris W says, you asked for suggestions, so here's one.
We actually read that one already.
Jack McAlpine, and we'll make this the last one because we're coming on time.
From Greenwich doing psychology, we have the opposite.
We had an ethics lesson on what makes something scientific, and we were shown an entire video about how Marx is unscientific due to being unfalsifiable.
Feel like my lecture is based.
Well, I mean, he's based in reality, if that's what you mean, because that's...
The modern scientific interpretation of Marx is that he is not scientific.
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