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	Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 30th of December I'm joined by Carl, which is via Streamlink today.
	So, you want to say hi, Carl?
	Hello.
	Sorry I couldn't be there.
	Just before Christmas, apparently my wife tested positive for coronavirus, so I have to wait 10 days before I can go back into the office, which means I'll be back on Monday.
	But in the meantime, I'll just call in.
	You've got to koof.
	Well, your wife's got to koof.
	You've not got to koof.
	Yeah, no, I'm completely fine.
	So are the kids.
	But she's fine now.
	It's just like heavy flu, really.
	She's in bed for a few days.
	Anyway, let's get right into it today.
	So we're talking about...
	Do you want to talk about identity politics reaching its logical conclusions?
	Yes.
	The Brexit deal, which mostly focusing on fishing because that was the thing that was stopping the negotiations from being completed and is now done.
	So is it betraying fishermen or not?
	And the fact that OnlyFans is a curse on humanity, which it is.
	So that'll be good.
	But do you want to start with your ID poll stuff?
	Yeah, okay.
	So let's begin with this article that the Daily Mail published just before Christmas, I think it was.
	Let me just check the date.
	Well, no, sorry, 27th.
	So only three days ago.
	This I found completely fascinating.
	Because it's an investigation, not an investigation, but kind of a report where they've just spoken to a teacher who was invited to the National Education Union's workshop for black teachers.
	The thing is, he's not black.
	And when you look at the picture, you can see he's obviously not black, and he gives his own ethnicity as being of Mediterranean and Jewish heritage.
	So Mediterranean is essentially what he classifies himself as.
	Not that you'd think that would be terribly important in this day and age, but I guess it is to the National Education Union.
	The National Education Union's position is Italians are not white, I guess.
	Kind of, yeah.
	That's actually true.
	That's correct.
	And it's not even just the meme.
	It's really how they view this, right?
	So, as the Daily Mail have told us, the NEU, they have informed him, because he doesn't consider himself white, that he is black.
	And they say that they are using...
	Sorry!
	I know!
	But it's laughable!
	It's genuinely laughable!
	It's like, what a stupid statement!
	Were they using the term BAME-only sections or something like that?
	No, they...
	I'll get to it, right?
	So, the NEU says it treats Black as a political term rather than a signifier of African heritage.
	So they've decoupled the word black with the meaning of being of African heritage, right?
	So now black is what they would describe as, I guess, an oppressed class.
	This is essentially the sort of apotheosis of critical race theory.
	Where you now have white, which are the oppressors, and then black, which are the oppressed.
	And so if you don't consider yourselves to be white, then you are black.
	You are part of the oppressed.
	The full dichotomizing of the world into just literally oppressed and oppressor is finally here with this formulation.
	And it's genuinely amazing.
	So they say, they use the term black when communicating about some activities with members who self-identify as black, Asian, or any other minority or ethnic groups who do not identify as white.
	I mean, the spokesman will just come out and say it.
	Like, if you are not white, you are therefore black.
	And that is a political identifier for us.
	So, okay, that's awful.
	That's an awful way to see people and the world.
	And I'm not surprised that Mr.
	Wardle here is objecting to this, and he's just trying to get them to not refer to him incorrectly.
	He doesn't want them to do anything, really.
	He's just like, just stop being inaccurate.
	But also, it's not so much for him either.
	He says Bane would be absolutely fine, as it encompasses everything, but he feels that it's kind of discriminatory against black people to classify him as black because he's not black.
	It's very weird.
	But when he joined the union and was asked for his ethnicity, he ticked the mixed other box because it was the only option available for him.
	He says, Jewish was an option in the religion section only, which led me to believe the NEU doesn't recognize Jewish as a race.
	They only appear to recognize it as religion.
	They said they could put an asterisk next to black to show that it was political.
	I said that shouldn't make a difference because I'm not black.
	And he added, I don't feel that a black member would necessarily want me down as a black member, and rightly so.
	I think the union are more obsessed with political arguments than they are about their members.
	What do you think about this so far, Cal?
	Right, this actually makes perfect sense.
	And I can explain it.
	So we did a podcast a while back, and I think you remember, on the history of the term BAME and where BAME comes from.
	And in the Labour Party and leftist circles and the civil service, before the term BAME came along, they would use black minority ethnic or this sort of thing.
	And before that, they used to use the term politically black.
	So, there were debates among, you know, half-white, half-black people, for example.
	Like, one of their parents was one, one of them was the other, right?
	And they were saying, well, actually, I'm kind of weirded out by the term political blackness, but I will go along with it for the political protection it gives me.
	So, there was a lady complaining, she was a professor at Oxford or whatever, that she was getting termed politically black, but she was okay with it for the time because she got political advantages from it.
	So it actually makes perfect sense that this is sort of an archaic term that's stuck around, but it's been thrown away because it obviously shows how ridiculous intersectionality is, that you're either white or black.
	That's really what the term BAME means, because of course BAME can't mean anything else.
	You know, black, Asian, minority, ethnic is so encompassing it means nothing.
	Well, it essentially just means non-white, and it's a kind of unionization of races against white people, weirdly enough.
	But this is totally in line with everything that critical race scholars will have you believe that they want.
	As Kimberley Crenshaw said, this is about raising racial consciousness.
	And the term political blackness, what that is, is, well, It's literally, as they say, it's about making sure that each individual non-white person has a political designator and therefore is pre-mapped out in a political landscape that they don't really have much control over.
	Normally, you could just join the Labour Party or join the Conservative Party, and you would be the one who chooses that.
	But if it's actually you have the Black Party and the White Party, then you don't have a choice as to where you can go.
	This is why these sort of race-based identity politics are just horrible and why we revile them rightly in normal circles.
	But anyway, yeah, so this is just the logical conclusion of it.
	I'm actually in favour of bringing back the term politically black, because you can see normies like him utterly revolted by it, because, you know, I'm not black, therefore I shouldn't be, blah blah blah, we shouldn't divide people like this.
	But BAME allows the intersectionalists to get away with their nonsense, whereas if you made them use the term politically black, I think a lot more people would wake up to the fact that this is obviously a political action and not an action of trying to be accurate about things.
	Yeah, but I mean, there are more concerns with that, because I don't...
	If I were black, I would be very annoyed about having my skin colour be a code for oppressed, right?
	I mean, if I was any colour.
	You know, I would be very annoyed that someone was trying to use something like my race to define me as being oppressed.
	Because, I mean, you know, Kanye West, by this definition, is oppressed.
	But Kanye West, I guess, would be described as politically white, if white means, like, not black.
	But it's got a bunch of associations attached to it that are tied to a history that, yes, is not very nice, but can't ever be overcome if you are framing people to think of themselves in this way.
	And when they say everything is political or the person is political, I mean, they may as well not have to worry about the term politically black because that's implicit in everything that they say and do.
	You know, they're the ones who will turn around and say, no, everything is political to me.
	I mean, you are right.
	Having them call it political blackness is probably an advantage for people who want to get rid of this form of politics.
	Exactly.
	I mean, we can see right through that that's the problem with it.
	But if you're someone with brown skin who doesn't think about politics that much, or someone who's Mediterranean, who apparently is no longer white, and you're just filling in these forms.
	And BAME, people just think it as form-filling.
	It's not that big of a deal.
	It's not some attempt at making the oppressed and the oppressors in racial groups, because that would be absurd.
	If you go to a random person and tell you that's what they're doing with these lists, they'd be like, what's wrong with you?
	when you use the term politically black, this absolute rando has instantly clicked that this is some kind of political effort to make him part of the oppressed class of the world by his genetics.
	Yes.
	This is why this was actually worth talking about.
	To make people, just help raise awareness of the fact that there are a bunch of racial politicians who are running things like the National Education Union.
	I mean, these...
	There is a habit for conservatives to think that these are the proper places for leftists and not want to contest the ground and challenge it.
	And then they wonder why civilization continues its leftward slide when generation after generation of young people are educated by radical leftists.
	And this is an organization that is dominated by radical leftists, right?
	So, I mean, it's currently co-chaired by Dr.
	Mary Busted.
	I think I'm pronouncing that right.
	She's a former member of the Trade Union Congress.
	She became one of the most powerful female trade unionists in 2017.
	The Association of Teachers and Lecturers, which she had led for more than a decade, merged with the National Union of Teachers.
	Combined 450,000-person membership makes it the biggest education union in Europe.
	She is obviously a die-hard Corbynite.
	She's obsessed with Cuba, apparently.
	She authorized thousands of pounds of union money to send members on fact-finding trips to Cuba.
	Why?
	What is your obsession with Cuba?
	Oh, it's because you're a socialist.
	You're a communist.
	And that's one of the revolutions...
	Sorry?
	It's just the idea of a fact-finding mission in Cuba.
	Like, you're going to find something that no one else has ever found.
	Yeah, you found poverty and tyranny, in fact, which is what people are opposed to.
	There were members in the union who were like, why?
	Why are we engaging with Cuba?
	Cuba doesn't even have trade unions.
	In fact, they put out a statement.
	Last year, under her joint leadership, the new union demanded the repeal.
	Oh, no, that was the wrong one.
	Sorry.
	That's actually worse.
	Let me get the quote up.
	Sorry.
	It gets worse, does it?
	Yeah, no, it does get worse, actually.
	That's the wrong quote.
	Where is the quote?
	There's no surprise that she backed Jeremy Corbyn.
	Of course it was.
	Of course not.
	Diehard Corbyn.
	Corbyn called Fidel Castro a champion of social justice when he died, which I think is insane.
	But the teachers in Lewisham put a motion at the last year's annual conference for the AEU. I think?
	So they don't have trade unions in Cuba.
	Why do these weirdo leftists have a love of Cuba and want to send people over fact-finding missions?
	What facts are you going to find?
	But yeah, so basically this person's a radical leftist as the Daily Mail are charging her with being and it seems that this is just fair.
	Fair characterization.
	And obviously, she seems very much, actually, like a kind of Twitter leftist as well.
	Like, she totally supports Extinction Rebellion, and so when a bunch of kids, you know, skip their lessons, she was like, oh, we stand in full solidarity with all students striking or protesting against climate change.
	We oppose any reprisals against students taking action to fight for climate change.
	All right, just go vote for the Greens, for the love of God.
	Which union was she in charge of?
	The National Education Union.
	So that's the one that was striking recently about the pensions benefits.
	But that's the thing.
	These Twitter leftists, you know, the little roses you see on Twitter.
	Like, yeah, they're mostly a meme.
	Like, these people look like a meme.
	You check out their profiles.
	It's hilarious.
	But they end up in positions of power.
	You end up in charge of one of the biggest unions in the country, and you've got all this money sitting in your lap, and you're a radical leftist.
	What are you going to do with it?
	It's the biggest union in Europe.
	Is it?
	450,000 members.
	So, yeah, like you say, these people actually do find themselves in positions of power and influence and have the ability to...
	I mean, especially when it comes to teaching as well.
	This is something that conservatives really need to pay attention to.
	It's like the education of your children is what's turning them into leftists.
	The fact that the schools are two-thirds Corbyn-supporting is why your children are becoming leftists and why anything you could consider conservative is just being erased.
	It's terrible.
	It's terrible.
	It's making me think maybe we should take a leap out of the honourable Cubans' position that to defend socialism, we must ban the unions.
	Therefore, everything will be fixed.
	Well, I mean, but it's the same with people and conservatives in most spheres, I think.
	A lot of them think, well, I'll go into the market and make a lot of money.
	So you will.
	And then the people who hate the market and don't make any money because they're incompetent generally...
	We'll be left in charge of the infrastructure of your children's education.
	There's no reason that university professors should be like 9% conservative.
	There's no particular reason that should be the case.
	It's just that conservatives have allowed that to happen.
	They have not been aggressively trying to Yeah, I mean, all just taking appropriate action at the governmental level, like defunding some of these courses that don't help anyone.
	They're just ideological courses.
	And Trump was right.
	There's nothing wrong with a patriotic education.
	That doesn't mean an education that lies.
	That means an education that doesn't assume and take the starting presupposition as this country is evil.
	That's an unhealthy thing to do.
	And only something you would do if you were interested in revolution, which many of these radical leftists are, which is why they love Cuba.
	Anyway...
	So that's the end point of IDPOL. So we're going to go on to the phishing deal, which you haven't read much about, I take it.
	No, no, I've been doing other things.
	How have things been?
	So, the fishing deal.
	So, things are mixed, is what the Brexiteer position seems to be.
	But overall, you know, much better than people were expecting from anyone cuckolding.
	So, it's overall good, in my opinion, from what I read.
	But we'll go through it, and then you can make your own opinion.
	So, the first part here is from the BBC, just giving us 10 bits of information about what does it mean.
	And the two bullet points from this is there's a UK increase in the amount of fish in our waters we'll get and an EU decrease.
	And proportionately in EU waters, there'll be a UK decrease in the amount and an EU increase.
	So shifting more of the catch to your own waters.
	And after 2026, the UK has the right to completely exclude EU boats.
	so we could say actually we're just going to take all of the fish get stuffed but this gets a little bit more complex so the Guardian and left wing media have been running this headline that Boris has betrayed UK fishermen, the fishing industry is being destroyed by this deal, you cannot back this deal and you see that today in the parliament I think they're debating it right now with the SNP, the Greens all the left is trying to say this deal we're not going to vote for it, no one can back this and Keir Starmer ripping into them which we'll get into in a minute
	So, The Guardian takes a quote here from the National Federation of Fishermen's Organization, claiming that this deal is bad.
	They say, So, they're upset that the EU still has access.
	It's not 100% UK fishing.
	It's done by UK fishermen.
	You know, we get the full quota.
	Which is okay.
	He can be upset about that.
	I'm a little bit not that bothered because, I mean, he is a lobbyist for the fishing industry.
	Of course he's going to say this is not exactly what I want.
	I want everything possible.
	So, okay.
	But the interesting point is this is the left-wing Remainer press who was saying, you know, Remain's the only option.
	But the Brexiteers seem to be getting around this deal.
	So the first part here is the European research group backing the deal.
	So they reviewed it and released a paper saying...
	Okay, it's got these problems and these problems, but on balance, here's our view.
	So they wrote, Our overall conclusion is that the agreement preserves the UK's sovereignty as a matter of law and fully respects the norms of international sovereign-to-sovereign treaties.
	And talking about level playing fields, They do not prevent the UK from changing its laws as it sees fit, at a risk of tariff countermeasures.
	And if those were unacceptable, the agreement could be terminated within 12 months' notice.
	So there's a transition period going on.
	And the best source I could find to explain the smaller details of this was from TRDL News, which I don't know if people might know or not, the next link, John.
	So, they're just a nice channel.
	I think they're fairly objective.
	I wanted to give them a bit of a plug because they did a good job here at explaining it.
	So, at the moment, the UK has 50% of the quota of all the fish in the UK seas.
	And the rest of it is divided up.
	A third of it going to the EU and the rest of it going to Norway and the Faroe Islands.
	And with the UK fishing industry not being a massive part of the UK economy, people tend to ignore it, but the fundamental problem here and the fundamental argument during Brexit was obviously, these are our fish, these are our waters.
	Okay, it might not be a massive part of the economy, but surely we are the ones who should have the right over these things.
	Seems true to me.
	So the agreement is over the next five years there will be a transition so that the UK will go from 50% to 58% and the EU will go from 25% and down a few percentage.
	I didn't write the list.
	Oh no, sorry, they go from 33% to 25%.
	So it's not a massive change and that's what the fisheries guy is upset about and I can see why you'd be upset about that.
	People were expecting more.
	But after the five years, it's then every single year the UK and the EU have to meet and negotiate what next year's quotas will be.
	So you could continue to take that down all the way.
	And as mentioned, by 2026, you can just ban EU fishing boats if you want.
	But the countermeasure will be the EU will put tariffs on fish and then we'll have to sell them somewhere else and they'll be frozen, so it'll be worth less.
	So that's what it is.
	But the fundamental point there is that at the end of that transition period, we own the fish.
	We're negotiating how much we should allow for each other, because we're also allowed to fish in their waters to some amount.
	Yeah, I don't have any problem with this at all.
	I do appreciate that people wanted everything on day one.
	But like you said, in five years time, ultimate decision making power is with us.
	And over the course of five years, five years isn't really that long a time.
	And at least there will be a gradual improvement over this time from the EU going down from 33 to 25, whatever the numbers were.
	And then it's just entirely within our decision-making capacity.
	So, sure, it's slower, but it does get us the result that we want.
	Yeah, I mean, that's why the ERG on reflection are saying, well, okay, on this issue of phishing, for example, we might not be getting precisely what we wanted on day one, but after a set amount of time, we have the sovereignty.
	The fundamentals are that we are in charge of our affairs.
	Fine.
	I mean, that's what the Brexit argument was about.
	It wasn't about the money.
	It was about sovereignty.
	Yeah.
	So, Nigel Farage has written a response to this in the Telegraph, and I thought I'd better bring him up, because he's, you know, love him or love him, love him or hate him, he's Mr.
	Brexit, he's the guy who got it.
	So, his response is that, And he has some interesting quotes on this along the lines that we mentioned.
	I would have preferred a no-deal Brexit, a clean break.
	Whatever short-term disruption this brought would have been the best path to prosperity.
	Yet through the talk with Downing Street recently, this was never going to happen.
	No-deal was just a negotiating position.
	Had Boris Johnson gone for no-deal, he would have had to reopen the fault line of the EU within his own party, and the business establishment would have cried foul.
	The Brexit wars would have dragged on.
	So the point here that he would have preferred no deal, but Realpolitik, the Conservative Party is the Conservative Party.
	Not perfect, saying it lightly.
	And this would have dragged on for another two years or whatever.
	It's already been four years since people voted to leave.
	Yeah.
	And it's got another section here.
	So talking about...
	I just took a few other bits out.
	So he was saying that we were initially expecting the EU quota to be cut down by 80% instead of 25%.
	So it would have been next to nothing of the quota they would have had instead, which we don't.
	They still get a considerable amount.
	But he's also annoyed about the fact that even if in 2026 the UK wants to increase its quota to 100%, we'd have to pay compensation to the EU, and he says this is an outrageous humiliation.
	My understanding is that's not quite true, because the compensation would be the increased tariffs, and we still have access to their waters to fish to some degree, so that's the trade-off.
	So that's what I understand about that.
	And his responsibility I quite like.
	The EU should be paying Britain to fish up to six miles within its waters.
	So if they should have any amount, they should be paying us.
	Which, yeah, I mean...
	I like the rhetoric, but if we also have the ability to fish in their waters, it seems like a fair trade-off to me.
	And not only that, we're looking to the long term here, right?
	So again, this is why I was like, well, five years, that's not that bad.
	Because I'm just thinking in generations to come, where do I want decision-making power to reside?
	And I would like it to be in Britain rather than the European Union.
	And I would happily take a deal that I was not particularly happy with if it meant that ultimately that decision-making power was in my hands if I was the one in charge.
	So yeah, but you've got to accept the European Union is an actor and It has its own interests, and it has demands and claims of its own.
	They'll say something like, well, you'll destroy our industries on day one.
	This is an unacceptable thing.
	And from their perspective, it is unacceptable.
	So you have to give some ground if you want to get some ground.
	And I think this is a fairly good deal, to be honest.
	As things go, I'm not disappointed with this, really.
	I mean, that's the point.
	The fundamental argument from the Brexiteers and the thing to keep Brexiteers happy was the sovereignty.
	So one of the issues with, as TRTL News explains, is that the quota for the British side is still determined by Westminster as to which companies get that percentage.
	So we, before we leave, have 50%, and 25% of that quota was being handed out by the British government to a Dutch company.
	And of course, that's an argument from people saying, well, why are you giving away our quota to an EU company?
	But that means that now, instead of being able to say, oh, well, the whole quota is handled by the EU, I can't do anything, Governor.
	No, all of this power is now in Westminster, so you could say to the MPs, you can't fob this off anymore, this is your fault.
	And therefore, there is accountability there.
	Yeah.
	But Nigel Fraze ends with this saying, no peace is perfect and Britain must be vigilant in the coming weeks and months.
	The grassroots campaign to win back Britain's independence has triumphed against the Westminster establishment.
	That surely is worth celebrating.
	So, a reserved take in saying that he thinks there are problems with it, but ultimately there were going to be compromises.
	This gets the sovereignty back.
	So fine.
	Fine.
	That's his view.
	As for the sort of real politic of this, so if we get the YouGov poll up, YouGov have done some polling.
	YouGov's a bit weird at times, I know, but overwhelming support from the public, it seems, to pass this, which would stand in line with the fact that the Brexiteers seem to be fine with it.
	And Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour Party, has whipped his own party into saying you have to vote for this.
	So even if you are a hardcore Remainer within the Labour Party, he's saying, no, we're voting for this deal.
	No questions.
	And I think this is smart politicking from him.
	So he makes the point in this video, we won't play it, that the real situation is it's this deal or no deal at this point.
	There's two days left before WTO becomes law.
	So if you're a Labour Party Remainer and you're voting against this deal, you're just voting for no deal.
	So you're voting with the Brexiteers.
	Which, you know, based.
	You're voting the Farage choice.
	Yeah, so it's got Labour Party backing and also the Conservatives are going to vote for it, obviously.
	So they'll have their votes.
	Their votes will be plenty and this will pass.
	Yeah.
	But the hilarity of already the SNP, the Greens, and I think some of the Labour Party MPs are rebelling, saying, no, this is horrible.
	How can you back Boris Johnson's Brexit deal?
	And how can you support Brexit?
	And it's like, well, look, if you don't, we're getting no deal.
	So...
	It's just derangement syndrome, though, isn't it?
	You know, like, how could you back Trump saying, I want $2,000 stimulus checks?
	Well, because that's just a bipartisan good.
	You know, this is good for the country to have control of his waters and have a good deal rather than no deal, as far as you were concerned.
	So the fact that this is now Boris arranging this...
	I guess this is Boris' victory over them.
	This is them having to kind of bend the knee.
	We're like, well, okay, fair enough, Boris.
	It's in a position where we now have to vote for you, or we're voting for Nigel Farage.
	Yeah, it's smart politicking either way.
	I've not got very strong views on this, but I can see why the Brexiteers are okay with it.
	I can see why the Remainers, quite frankly, need to just give it up.
	And that's Starmer's position, which is just give it up.
	It's done.
	And rightfully, Nigel Farage is pointing out, look, at least this is over now.
	We have the sovereignty bit.
	You may not have the perfect monetary trade part.
	You don't have all the fishing.
	This is just for fisheries, but it's similar elsewhere, as the ERG say.
	That's fine, though.
	We can live with that.
	As you say, what will your kids be dealing with?
	Well, they will be able to point to Westminster and say, they're in charge of the country, and if something's been messed up by them, it is only them who are to blame.
	Therefore, we get rid of them.
	You get rid of the politicians who did the bad things.
	But when we were in the EU, you couldn't.
	You literally can't.
	Some bureaucrat can decide something, and he's completely unelected.
	Nothing you can do.
	Even worse, it might not even be a bureaucrat.
	It could be someone in the commission or something.
	Again, nothing you can do.
	It could be someone in another country.
	Nothing you can do.
	But nothing even the MPs could do.
	I mean, MPs are politicians, but still, you've got to have sympathy with a guy who's being told by his constituents, this problem exists, and he has literally no power to do it, even as an elected member of parliament.
	Well, look at Germany and the migrant crisis.
	If German MPs decide to allow millions of migrants in and then say, well, Schengen open borders area means that they can go anywhere, then these politicians are taking unilateral decisions that your politicians can do nothing about.
	Yep.
	So yeah, that's the Brexit deal.
	The agreement seems to be, well, we get the...
	We get the sovereignty back, so good enough from the back of tears.
	And I'd like to see what people have to say in the chat.
	I mean, if there's something we missed, let us know.
	I have seen some people criticizing me for plugging TRDL News for being a little bit leftist.
	They are quite leftist.
	I don't know why you're promoting them.
	I'm not promoting them on the basis that I love leftism or anything like that.
	They're very soy.
	But when it comes to getting finickety details about some bill, they are a good source just to get the finickety details.
	And then go and find other sources as well, obviously.
	I have watched them myself for that reason.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, let's move on because you wanted to talk about the curse that is OnlyFans.
	Oh my god.
	OnlyFans is just the worst thing that's happened to mankind.
	And I found this post.
	So this is an archive from the Wayback Machine that I'm going to be reading from.
	Because this was posted to a subreddit called Am I the Arsehole for being mad that my boyfriend had bought an OnlyFans girl a Christmas present and not me.
	The answer is obviously no.
	You are not the arsehole here, but that's not really the question here.
	The question is, why does this circumstance even exist?
	This was posted on Christmas Day, right?
	So this poor woman has had this...
	I say this poor woman, but she kind of made a rod for her own back here.
	But this woman had this happen to her, and I'll read through it in a second.
	The mods deleted it, and I had to track down the archive after a screenshot of about half of what was posted was going around on various forums and on Facebook and whatnot.
	But anyway, she says, I, female 26, and my boyfriend, male 27, have been together for several years.
	We moved in together this year, and with furnishing the place, me struggling with debt, and just how hard 2020 has been, we agreed that we would not do presents this year.
	We are both originally from out of state, so we were just planning a quiet Christmas together, staying isolated and inside.
	For context, my boyfriend subscribes to multiple OnlyFans accounts, and I am aware of this.
	He was spending approximately $450 a month on subscriptions, but he is cut back after I spoke to him about just how financially alarming his behaviour was.
	He finds the women on the site help with his anxiety and he doesn't have any other financially draining habits.
	He sees nothing wrong with this activity.
	Fast forward to this week, he received a postcard in the mail.
	It was one with the text on the back with, You Jingle My Bells cartoon on the front.
	It was from one of the women on OnlyFans he subscribes to.
	The note was thanking him for a generous gift and contained his legal name and our address.
	I was concerned because one, he's giving out his and our personal information to someone who's effectively a stranger on the internet.
	And two, he got her a Christmas gift, but not me, his actual girlfriend.
	While I've come to terms with his use of the service, this has really upset me because for the first time, these women he subscribes to have broken the third wall and entered my reality.
	When I confronted him about giving our address, he said the postcard he received was a prize for exceeding certain gift value threshold, and so he wanted to ensure that he got it.
	When I asked how much he had paid, $1,000.
	$1,000!
	I was upset about this, but it's his money and his life.
	However, today when we woke up this morning, I gave him the card I had gotten him and made him his favorite breakfast.
	He thanked me, but reminded me that we agreed no presents this year.
	He didn't even get me a card.
	I don't know what happened, but something inside me snapped.
	A thousand dollars for another woman and not even two dollars for a card for me.
	I lost at him and stormed out.
	He keeps ringing and texting me, but I just can't face him.
	I'm just so embarrassed.
	I have this voice in the back of my head reminding me that technically he didn't do anything wrong as we had an agreement separate to his OnlyFans activity, so am I the arsehole for being upset about this?
	What do you reckon, Callum?
	Oh, boy.
	See, this, I initially had the response of, no, honey, you're doing the right thing.
	But I still think that.
	But it is way more complex than I thought after we spoke with the guys over lunch with this.
	So I think we need to go issue by issue because it's kind of complex.
	But let's take the first part of that.
	$450 a month to random ethos.
	That is huge.
	That is absolutely massive.
	I mean, I don't know how much this guy's earning, but if he and his girlfriend, who have moved in together, are struggling for money, surely it's not that much.
	It's only going to be a few thousand dollars a month, right?
	She said she's struggling for money, he's not, and they don't seem to have merged their finances.
	Hmm.
	So, okay, the amount of money he's spending, weird.
	But it is his money, so I think that point I can't really argue about.
	It's like, fine.
	You don't actually, if you haven't merged your finances or you don't have that level of relationship yet where you do that kind of thing, bail her out of her debt, okay, fine, you want to spend money, fine.
	But then there's the obvious point, you have a girlfriend and you're spending money on ethos.
	Weird.
	Weird.
	What do you make of the idea of having a partner but still spending money on ethos?
	I think this is terrible.
	I think this is proof that these are not relationships anymore.
	He doesn't have a girlfriend.
	He has a roommate, right?
	What on earth is this nonsense, right?
	He spends $450 a month, which, again, I think is probably going to be a fair amount of money from her perspective, presumably their perspective, even if their finances are separate.
	To help with his anxiety, That's such obvious nonsense, isn't it?
	Well, you say this, this is why I'm a little bit reserved.
	Well, hang on, hang on.
	Because I went through the comments on the archive, and from the previous one where it was deleted, and found she had given a bit more information.
	Apparently he has asthma and is very anxious to leave the house.
	So that's how OnlyFans became an outlet.
	Bull.
	That is total bull.
	This, this, this is not what this OnlyFans is about at all.
	Anxiety, right?
	So why, why?
	Why is he doing any of this?
	What is OnlyFans, fundamentally?
	And I've been really struggling to understand it.
	I don't use OnlyFans, just in case anyone's wondering.
	Except the one you set up for yourself.
	Well, no, I might set up one for myself.
	I mean, it seems that it's a profitable thing to do.
	But I've never sent money to anyone on OnlyFans.
	So I don't really know how it works.
	And so I'm taking all of the information I get about OnlyFans from second and third half, But it seems that this is a way of having some kind of guaranteed paid relationship, right?
	But the relationship is framed in a personal way.
	So there's this kind of parasocial relationship.
	And so him...
	Him wanting the card for the $1,000 he sent, like, the card seems to have special significance.
	He wanted to make sure, you know, he made sure that he got the card.
	And that was the sort of flashpoint, because again, like, it's $1,000, man.
	He's gave $1,000 to some woman on the internet for a card saying, you jingle my bells, right?
	But who should be sending him stuff like that?
	Who should be sending him what is like, I guess was quasi-romantic, you know, cheesy romantic sort of things like this?
	It should be his girlfriend.
	You know, she should be the one, you know, like making him feel desired.
	Because that's why he's doing it, right?
	It's to make him feel romanced, to make him feel special.
	Like there's some kind of magical, unique connection.
	So, and he, I presume he likes giving money so he can feel like a provider.
	And I've seen a lot of like simps online talking and trying to justify it.
	And that, that seems to be like this kind of team provider instinct or something.
	I don't know.
	It's weird, but it's actually like this, this is what she should be giving to him.
	This feeling that he's getting from OnlyFans and from just giving money to these thoughts.
	I'm picturing some sort of Belle Delphine-style thoughts.
	Feminine and is playing coy and vulnerable, right?
	So men are encouraged to send them money to make sure they're secure and safe and things like this.
	I think that's the sort of emotional angle that's being played here.
	And I'm not saying that it's bad or that it's exploitation or anything like that.
	But what I am saying is that it's unhealthy that a man in a relationship is getting that from women online rather than the woman he's supposed to live with.
	But the thing is, she's done nothing to help herself here, right?
	So the fact that she's in debt and she's 26, I'm guessing that's student debt, right?
	And so she has been to university, she's got her education, she's working in a career.
	Well, it may not be with 2020.
	It may not be, but I think it's probably likely.
	There's no particular other information that I could find to suggest it, but she sounds like a career woman, right?
	She doesn't sound like someone who's like, oh, I can't wait to get married and have kids and be a housewife.
	She's going to be like a young millennial, old Zuma career woman, right?
	And so it seems that she is essentially his equal.
	She's 27, she's 26.
	I wonder how old the only fans' thoughts are, you know?
	But she works, they're like separate but equal as people, right?
	It's a relationship equals.
	No, no, I've got my finances, he's got his finances.
	And we came to a contractual agreement about Christmas cards.
	And it's like, okay, hang on a second.
	And so when she's like, well, you know, he has OnlyFans and he sees nothing wrong with this activity, just the way that's framed.
	He sees nothing wrong with this activity as valueless.
	You know, what's the activity?
	The activity could be anything.
	You could reframe this as he sees nothing wrong with emotionally cheating on me, which is what I think is happening here.
	It sounds like he has got some sort of emotional tie to the romance that the ethos are giving him that he should be getting from his girlfriend.
	Again, that's meant to be the romance in a relationship.
	He's not spending $450 a month on archery.
	He's spending it on something else.
	Female attention.
	He's spending it on female attention and validation.
	And it's like, no, you should be getting that from your wife or your girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	If I were her, I can't imagine dating a woman and saying to her, look, I'm spending $450 a month on all of these women online, and her saying, no, you're not, you're spending that on me.
	That's normally what you do in relationships.
	There's a thing here.
	So Belle Delphine did an interview a while back talking about her fans.
	And I think I'm getting this right.
	So there's a thing from, you know, you ask the simps why you're doing it, and they're saying, you know, it's provider fetish or something like this.
	Her description of what mostly the kind of people that do this is that...
	They are largely people who work in tech, make tons of money, so they've got money to burn.
	And they just have problems finding women and that sort of thing, and therefore this fits for them, which is unhealthy.
	That was on an Ethan Klein H3H3 interview, wasn't it?
	Yeah, I watched that too.
	Josh made the point that this, you know, from a psychological perspective, this is actually the worst thing you can do, because you're not actually dealing with the problem of not being able to meet women and socially interact and all the rest of it.
	You're just sort of supplementing your fear, like you're not actually going out and dealing with it.
	Let me get to the end where I was going with this, because it's not...
	I'm not going to say it's not their fault, that's not what I'm trying to say.
	But you know, this guy isn't a single tech guy, he's got a girlfriend.
	Yes, but the girlfriend is not fulfilling the function that he desires.
	And that's her fault.
	And it's her fault for agreeing to this kind of valueless contractual relationship with him.
	Like when she says, I was upset about this, but it's his money and his life.
	Are you insane?
	Like, that's not what being a couple is.
	Oh, well, you know, you do what you want and I'll just do what I want.
	That's what roommates are.
	You're not a pair of atomized individuals.
	Sorry?
	It's what an open relationship is or something, you know?
	Yeah, exactly.
	You're not just atomized individuals who are just living in a shared accommodation.
	You're meant to be in love.
	You're meant to have feelings for that person.
	But all of her description about the relationship is devalued.
	It's neutral.
	It's objective.
	It's scientific.
	It's not something romantic.
	You know, it's not surprising that he is looking elsewhere for romance, for magic, you know, for that kind of butterflies in the feeling stomach of, oh, I got, you know, because you can imagine from his point of view, when he gets this card, he's like, oh, wow, yeah, I got this card from whatever it is, you know, the ego that he's concerned about.
	And that, to him, is a romantic thing.
	That was important to him.
	That has meaning to him.
	Any meaning we can claim it has, I guess.
	But when she's like, you know, I have this voice in the back of my head reminding me that technically he didn't do anything wrong and we had an agreement to separate his only fans' activity.
	It's like, okay, lawyer.
	Okay.
	Like, that sounds like EU bureaucratic doublespeak.
	What do you mean?
	Well, he technically...
	I'm the sort of guy who's prepared to go out on a limb quite regularly and say so-and-so did nothing wrong, but he absolutely did do something wrong.
	But you did something wrong, too.
	Yeah.
	You know, you should never have agreed to that.
	You allowed this to happen.
	Yeah, you allowed this to happen by failing as a woman, right?
	And look at, like, you know, ethos.
	Look at all of the ethos, right?
	Are very womanly.
	That's the thing that they're selling.
	They're selling womanliness and sort of coquettishness and interestedness, right?
	The point of their videos is, and the posts, and, like, you see the stuff that Belle Delphine posted to Twitter, and I'm like, holy crap.
	You know, but there's always a kind of tone and tenor to it, which is to try and draw you in and make you feel like you are the most important thing in her world, right?
	That's why she's always winking at the camera.
	That's why she's like always, you know, giving these smiles and whatnot.
	The point is to try and draw you in and make you feel like she feels something special for you.
	And that's what all of them are trying to get and what he's clearly not getting from his girlfriend.
	And it's because his girlfriend, it just writes like some sort of bureaucratic middle manager who's done, you know, four years in a degree in whatever it is, not necessarily gender studies or anything.
	But she's essentially become de-womanized and she is losing all of this money, all these resources and all this effort and time that this boyfriend should put into romancing her by failing to put out the sort of, you know, the half of it that is the woman's job that the ethots themselves are doing and making bank off of.
	So yeah, there's definite competitive disadvantage there, but it's about the loss of womanliness, and you can see it dripping out of the way she describes the situation.
	It's sad.
	It's sad, man.
	I think you're right.
	But this is why I wanted to take it point by point.
	But the $1,000 donation and the $450 a month to me, same thing.
	It's just the same thing.
	Okay, he gave $1,000 on Christmas.
	But the reason I want to talk about how Belle Delphine's fans think about this.
	So she mentions that he does it for anxiety.
	I could maybe believe it at a stretch if I want to be charitable.
	But as you're pointing out...
	That's a cover.
	That's a cover.
	You should not be having any amount on an OnlyFans account when you've got a relationship, surely.
	Surely your partner should be able to fulfill that part of your life and therefore you shouldn't be doing this.
	There's obvious faults on both sides, as you're pointing out, but I think ultimately it's sides with the guy here, just doing stupid things.
	But there's another problem here, which is we had a discussion about whether or not...
	Can you compare this to porn?
	Like, if I pay for a subscription to a porn channel or something, where it's nondescript, could be anyone, you know, videos of multiple people, that's very animalistic, like you're just looking to deal with an animalistic urge, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	But if you're subscribing to specific OnlyFans accounts of specific women for...
	Friendship?
	Relationships?
	I'm not sure what the right term is.
	Yeah, there is some sort of emotional relationship there.
	That's something else.
	That's definitely something else.
	I agree.
	I'm trying to think of any other points you made there.
	Oh, the fact that it's an invasion of privacy.
	She doesn't care about that.
	Like, she doesn't care about that at all, right?
	Like, that is literally one line.
	He's giving out a personal information to someone who's effectively a stranger on the internet.
	End of line.
	Two, block.
	You know, here's a paragraph of my consent.
	I mean, and it's about the things that we value, right?
	Look at what he values.
	He gives some ethos $1,000 for Christmas to get a card from her that says, you jingle my bells, right?
	So he can feel special.
	He can feel desired.
	He can feel loved.
	And when she, his wife or girlfriend, sorry, gives him her card, he's like, oh, don't forget that we're not giving presents this year.
	So he didn't value that at all.
	He didn't value her at all.
	And that's what she's upset about.
	I'm right to be upset about it.
	But she has allowed this relationship to carry on without any kind of demands made by her.
	Because it is all about demands.
	And men want to have things demanded of them by women, right?
	So it's, you know, this is...
	You see a lot of this, like, the ethos in arrogance, absolute arrogance, in the way that they expect these men to give them money, and these men fall over themselves to give her money.
	And then everyone else is like, you simps are disgusting, I wish you'd stop it.
	You know, it's embarrassing, you know, and it's...
	Encouraging unhealthy habits.
	And yet they do it anyway.
	And the expectation there from the powerful position of the ethos over the simp.
	And the simp loves it.
	It's like, okay, this is awful.
	But it's what the simp values.
	He doesn't value the card from her.
	He doesn't care about the card from his girlfriend.
	He doesn't give a shit.
	He doesn't care.
	He's not going to give her $1,000.
	She's in debt and he's not going to give her $1,000.
	He's not going to give her $450 a month.
	He's going to give her nothing.
	Nothing!
	It goes to some random thought of the internet.
	That's how much of a failure as a girlfriend this girl is.
	She renegotiated it.
	She said she negotiated with him, but she only negotiated on the fact that it was financially irresponsible.
	And not the fact that this is not a relationship.
	This is not what you should be doing.
	Yeah, it's financially alarming.
	Well, if he feels he can afford it, then it's not financially alarming, is it?
	And that's your entire argument gone.
	You should have literally made a demand from being a woman, saying, I am your girlfriend, you will give me this, or else.
	But unfortunately, the thing is, he's that kind of guy, right?
	If he's the sort of guy who's going to give away a thousand bucks for Christmas to some rado...
	Yeah, it's not like you can't afford it, but I just love the idea that you get a girlfriend and the first thing out of their mouths is Gibbs.
	Gibbs, yeah.
	But there's a wider point here that was made by the best YouTuber who's ever lived, J-Reg.
	But he made a video on OnlyFans, and he's a satirist.
	You always expect it to be a joke, and this one just wasn't.
	And he made a really good point, which is that...
	People's hatred of OnlyFans.
	And you get this from absolute...
	I mean, we don't...
	I'm not subscribed to OnlyFans.
	I don't know this lady, this guy.
	I don't really have any connection to it.
	But everyone hates it.
	Anyone you ask who's a normie, they all hate this.
	And it's because it's the fact that it's made it so easy for random women you know, or any woman or any daughter, to become essentially a pornographer.
	This has made it...
	All you need is a phone.
	And you can sit up, take pictures of yourself, and then you're getting money.
	And it does suck.
	Like, I hate the fact that this is way easier now.
	It's the commodification of relationships.
	That's the problem.
	We shouldn't discount the fact that we want to feel special and unique, right?
	So that's something we can call magical.
	Something we can say that there's a magical connection between you and a certain other person.
	They make you feel in a way that no one else does.
	And if you do the same to them, then you're in love, right?
	And so to show...
	In fact, it's kind of like Karl Marx points out in the Communist Manifesto.
	Capitalism has sundered the bonds of honor and nobility, something like that, between people and reduced everything to a mere money transaction.
	And he's not wrong in observing that that is a kind of gross materialistic thing.
	Why he then built a materialistic philosophy off that, I don't know why.
	You know, it's a stupid idea.
	But he is right that there is something quite gross about reducing romantic relationships to a material transaction.
	There is something inhuman about it.
	That's not even talking about morality of pornography.
	It degrades the female in the relationship.
	It also degrades the males using it.
	This is why people make fun of simps all the time.
	I just love John whispering in my ear, Carl Benjamin says, Carl Marx is right.
	This is actually the funny incel point, which we should redistribute the means of reproduction in response to this kind of thing.
	Of course not, that's a joke, but...
	I mean, the thoughts would be firmly against.
	They're very capitalist, and they understand the benefits of capitalism.
	But this is the problem, though.
	This is what relationships will end up becoming, is just purely an economic calculation.
	Because he gave her $1,000, she's going to give him a card that says, you jingle my bells.
	She doesn't...
	The falsity of it is laid bare.
	The mask has cracked and fallen away.
	It's obvious that this ethos does not care about this guy at all.
	But because he paid her for this emotional reinforcement, she's prepared to give it because it's worth her time.
	And it lays bare the naked self-interest.
	That can underlie a relationship if we strip away all the sort of human elements of it.
	And that's, I think, why people really hate OnlyFans.
	It shows that this is the worst that humanity could be, where it's just naked egoism.
	And it's awful.
	I bet there was a similar thing in the time of Marx with people in relation to factories being set up, the fact that it's far less human.
	And we have it now.
	I mean, with Amazon being set up, people complain about the fact that working at Amazon or places like that, it's so corporate, it's soul-destroying.
	You know, the fact that you're completely atomized.
	Yeah, you've got no particular prospects, you've got no particular excitement.
	And I think that's the way that the guy is looking at his relationship with his girlfriend.
	Where's the romance?
	Where's the thrill?
	You know, she never does any of this for him.
	And he therefore never does anything for her.
	And then she gets to a point where she's like, hang on, he's at least supposed to get me a Christmas present instead of some rando girl.
	And I can understand why she snapped and why she stormed out.
	But at the end of the day, love, you helped lay the ground for this.
	You should have been concerned about his emotional state.
	You should have been the one he came to for validation.
	You should have made demands on him as a provider, but instead you're equals and you've got your student debt and you work your job and you don't have a relationship with your boyfriend.
	He has a relationship with ethos.
	Welcome to the 21st century.
	I've got nothing else to say on that.
	Get what you deserve.
	I guess we should go to the Super Chat.
	I don't know how we're going to do this.
	Can you see the screen?
	You'll have to read them, I think, because I can't see them.
	God, that's that.
	John's setting it up, so it's got to be a minute, but yeah, worst take ever.
	Some people were giving money for glasses yesterday.
	I'll kill you.
	You do need them.
	I probably should get a checkup.
	I haven't had a checkup in ages.
	Just move a bit closer.
	Anyway.
	Just scrolling.
	What would you do if you had a daughter and she set up an OnlyFans account?
	Take away a computer.
	Yeah, fair.
	I mean, I've seen those memes like TikToks.
	You know, like the brother comes in and it's like, I can make you clean my room in two words, OnlyFans.
	And then the parents are like, what's an OnlyFans?
	Honestly, OnlyFans is a terrible idea.
	I really hate it.
	Yeah.
	I'd love to interview the creators sometime.
	Just ask them.
	Yeah, so why are you ruining everything?
	Money!
	Yeah, I guess.
	Loads and loads of money.
	So Manj says, Congratulations on climbing the Apple charts.
	Clearly Russian collusion.
	Duh.
	As punishment, Anita will now be hosting this channel, rebranded as Podcast of the Georgia O'Keeffe Flower Eaters.
	I don't get that reference.
	Unearned.
	She needs to be equal outcome at the top of the charts.
	I don't think we're top of the charts.
	Where were we when we peaked?
	We'd slipped down to number eight because we hadn't made anything in like a week.
	Because it was Christmas.
	Four days over Christmas.
	But let me...
	We're getting back up.
	We're down to 15.
	God damn it.
	We did beat the New York Times for a bit.
	Failing New York Times.
	Yeah, we were up to number six.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Sam Jackson, the Blair government deliberately increased immigration to change the culture.
	Perhaps we could import a few million Texans to rebalance and redress the issue.
	Well, I saw a quote from John Prescott back in the day.
	It was a quote from, I think, 2007, where he literally, and it seems really cliche now, but he was literally saying, well, the white British have no culture.
	It's like, I mean, it's embarrassing when you look back on it, but he was just pouring scorn on white British people for having, like you said, no culture.
	I mean, I can't believe that ever washed back in the day.
	How could you say that?
	British people have no culture.
	It's just so untrue.
	Even if Dawn Butler came out with that right now, I'd imagine a lot of people would be like, what?
	What is wrong with you?
	What do you think the argument about last night of the proms was, Dawn?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but that's the thing.
	It's not about the animal urge, it's about relationships.
	The simps aren't really interested in sex.
	The ethos, I don't, I mean, they're not, you know, like, Belle Belphine only just starting to do porn is, like, not as groundbreaking as you think, because it's not really what it's about, is it?
	You know, it's about her making them feel special.
	I don't know, I feel like that's a bad move by her.
	I imagine her revenue's gone down, because people aren't there for that.
	That's actually not what they're interested in.
	Well, I guess we'll see.
	She's a tremendous businesswoman, so I guess we'll see.
	God, this is what capitalism does.
	Quote more Karl Marx.
	Anyway, the civic nationalists.
	If we are going off how many...
	Sorry, if we're going off how long people are oppressed, I'm one-eighth Roma, Romanian gypsy.
	Anyway, seven-eighth British, God save the Queen.
	So you're one-eighth oppressed, I guess.
	Yeah.
	So am I, actually, by that metric.
	Unless the Welsh are oppressed, maybe I can get oppressed points from being half Welsh.
	Wow, according to the Labour Party, actually, yes, because you're a Celt.
	Thanks.
	DRT is king.
	Congrats on the win over AA Sargon, but remember, thou art mortal, wear your laurel with pride, O Akkadian.
	I certainly will, thank you.
	This was a debate about whether or not the Byzantine Empire is the continuation of the Roman Empire on AA's channel.
	So if you're interested, go check that out.
	I've watched half.
	It's pretty good.
	Yeah, I mean, it was fun.
	It was essentially a meme, though.
	You know, he knows that the Eastern Roman Empire was a continuation of the Roman Empire.
	But it raises the interesting questions of what it is to identify and be that thing, you know.
	And it's relatively relevant here, you know.
	This guy having these emotional feelings for ethots is mad.
	It's cringe.
	Yeah.
	Person of the Year Svatnik.
	As a white guy, I've never oppressed a black.
	Also, I want reparations for the Barbary slave trade.
	Yeah.
	This was a point actually made in Parliament by, I think he's an Anglo-Indian.
	Sorry if I'm getting that wrong.
	But it was just amazing, like Dawn Butler talking about slavery, and he's like, yeah, what about the Barbaries?
	Repressions, you know, reparations now, please.
	Syrian Byron, I don't know how to say that properly, sorry.
	Other minority groups?
	Yeah, whites aren't a global minority, but hey, logic.
	Yep, whites are a global minority.
	MrArbiter103.
	Spend money on OnlyFans once.
	Felt absolutely disgusted with myself.
	Never been back since.
	Don't make the same mistake I did Kings.
	Yeah, don't do it.
	Juan Do.
	But Carl is way blacker than him.
	Talking about the Mediterranean guy, I assume.
	That's true.
	An antebellum US. I don't get counted as a black person.
	I don't get an invite to the black-only meeting.
	Imagine turning up.
	Everyone else is black and you're the white guy there.
	It's like, yeah, well, I'm from the Mediterranean.
	But even worse, what if you turn up and there's literally no black people there?
	Oh my god, could you imagine?
	Like, what is going on?
	Are the Polish politically black then?
	Because, I mean, they're in the minority category of BAME, so...
	Slavs were considered to be an oppressed peoples in America by some progressive group.
	I can't remember who it was.
	Well, that means Count Dankil is also black, then.
	What, Kelts are black?
	Yeah.
	Goddamn.
	I hadn't finished that.
	20-25% black was the way more than enough.
	As funny as it is tragic.
	I'm reading that it was written, but it didn't make much sense.
	Sorry.
	Cult Wraith.
	I've been watching you for a few weeks now.
	Two things I can't figure out.
	Who is Hugo and what is a simp?
	Hugo is one of our staff writers.
	He does the weekly podcast as well.
	If you go on the channel, you'll find some of the weekly podcasts.
	Does some great stuff on the great weekend.
	Sorry.
	And a simp is a tragic person.
	Disorderlypunk.
	Did you know lotuseaters.co.uk goes to Vosh YouTube?
	Go and watch some of it.
	Go and watch some of Vosh.
	And then when you come back, you'll be like, Christ, that was an unpleasant experience.
	Coffee time general.
	Unrelated, but when did you realize you're a wage?
	Why?
	A wagey?
	Me?
	Just now.
	My colleague lost the bathroom key and I've to get the train to...
	Not saying that.
	Crawling in my skin, these wounds will not heal.
	I don't really understand that super chat, but thank you.
	I'm assuming wagey is someone who lives off...
	I assume he's a wage slave.
	Yeah.
	WinterPhoenixForestKirin for 50 US bucks.
	Jesus Christ.
	Thank you, man.
	To spread holiday cheer, please watch a bizarre and funny video called Cannibal Gingerbread House ASMR. That does sound good.
	Part 1 and Part 2.
	The second part is very artistic horror and the first part is silly and fun comedy.
	Sargon, please watch it when you have the free time.
	I'm going to write that down.
	I'm just looking it up now.
	Caddy Bowl Ginger Bread House ASMR. Oh yeah, okay, I found it.
	Yeah, I gotta watch that afterwards.
	That's good.
	Thanks, man.
	Dado and Son, Senpai Sargon for PM. And John's just moved the thing.
	And Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
	Absolutely correct.
	Sterling Jennings, I want to start a thought experiment interview channel that basically allows the person to lay out their political and social ideas as if they were a supreme authority with minimal devil's advocate.
	Who do I start with since I am new with no following?
	Who would you start with?
	I mean, it depends on where you live.
	Oh, that's the US. That's also 50 bucks.
	Jesus.
	Okay, guys.
	We're condemning simping here, but...
	I suppose you're not coming here for animal urges, though.
	Where do you start?
	Where do you start?
	As in, who would you start with, I assume, interviewing to just lay out their philosophy?
	I think that the difficulty will really be finding people who can properly lay out their political philosophy, because I don't think most people can.
	Especially the extremists sometimes.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, look for people on YouTube, I guess, and see that they can actually get their philosophy out and be understood.
	But I don't have any specific recommendations.
	I would guess more extremists, because most centrists or people who can be listened to on YouTube already are, whereas if you can get the full-on extremists, they can lay out their ideas, and also it'll be funnier to watch.
	So if you can get someone explaining what ISIS genuinely believe, for example.
	But I don't know if YouTube will allow that.
	Maybe you need to make a bit shoot backup.
	Chisel28.
	Returned, borrowed power, or it consumes you one day.
	I'm assuming that's in reference to the EU returning the power that we gave them.
	I assume that.
	It sounds like a true axiom.
	If the power isn't yours, then it'll probably end up destroying you.
	Yeah.
	Possible pilot deviation.
	Listening to that OnlyFans story makes me want to take up a sword and launch the Great Crusade.
	I sometimes can understand why radical Islam hates us.
	I can understand why they hate us too, but don't take up a crusade.
	I disavow.
	Yeah, disavow crusading, but we understand.
	It is insufferable, though, isn't it?
	And the thing is, as well, neither of these people, I think, really were responsible, because they're only 26 and 27, so they're not really responsible for the forces that have been acting upon them, but you can see how she's been essentially disarmed of her womanhood from the feminists and the way the left has framed just life and the interactions between men and women.
	And so she's totally unhappy with her relationship, and her boyfriend doesn't even think he's doing anything wrong, even though I think in his heart of hearts, I think he does think he's doing something wrong.
	It's destroying these relationships.
	To put across the sex-positive feminists.
	It's like, really, read this story.
	Right, is this good?
	Is this a liberated woman?
	Yeah, did this help this woman now?
	She's got the student there.
	She's got a boyfriend who doesn't desire her.
	She's just existing.
	She didn't even get a present.
	Deporable pirate captain, I hope these thoughts with OnlyFans never discover snap-on tool trucks.
	Men will be forever broke.
	Snap-on tool trucks?
	What's that?
	I don't know what that is.
	I'm not even sure I want to Google it, but I will.
	That's not...
	Er, okay, I don't know, but...
	Fine, I guess it's a truck that you can drive around in and have random people look, but you have the internet.
	I don't get it.
	Anyway, EZE. I'm convinced thoughts are the downfall of the Western society more than ever now.
	My dudes, free porn exists.
	Paying for thoughts at this point is immoral.
	But that's the problem.
	It's not what it's for.
	It's not what it's for.
	I don't know how you...
	I suppose you're just outlawing thoughtery.
	What the solution is there?
	No, you've got to encourage women to be womanly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's one.
	The woman has to fulfill a desire that the man has.
	And if these simps have a desire to essentially, I don't want to say serve, because it sounds like non-consensual, but like, you know, they have a desire to be needed by a woman, and a woman will reward them with attention and affection and kindness and all this sort of stuff, then they should be getting that from their girlfriends.
	Yep.
	Trizzle28, I made the greatest sacrifice of my life this week.
	I hope to uncool myself enough that it won't go to waste.
	For almost half my life went into this.
	No context that I could find, unless it's a previous Super Chat.
	I'm assuming it's the guy who says he's going to give up OnlyFans, or at least left OnlyFans, which, you know, good.
	Waste of money, man.
	Waste of money.
	Terminal Crazy.
	Sargon, will you say you jingle my dingleberries for ten dollary-doos?
	What does that say about you?
	No.
	I just did.
	God dang it.
	I don't have to.
	Callum read it out.
	BredoTV for five British pounds.
	Thank you very much.
	Didn't say anything.
	Convincing Reality, again, for five British pounds.
	Thank you, guys.
	D... Dekral?
	Sounds like she's got equality and consent in her relationship and she hates it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's very legalistic.
	She feels like she can't make demands, emotional demands of her boyfriend.
	Like, what an awful place to be.
	I mean, the fact that you made it was very legalistic, the relationship as well, it's sad.
	Yeah.
	I mean, he's contractually obliged to do this.
	Shut up.
	The Earl of Longfoot.
	Callum, the English longbowman, spending $450 LARPing.
	But that's the thing, it's not going to destroy your relationship, is it?
	In fact, it'll probably provide some, you know, a male space or something like that.
	You can go out with your mates, go do some archery.
	Fithy Potman?
	Fith Potman?
	Sorry, I don't have to say.
	I have asthma and anxiety, and I'm working as a cleaner so I can shove it.
	He is simply an old boy and not a man.
	Yeah, I am suspect of the whole anxiety thing but I want to be as charitable as possible.
	Okay, it probably is.
	Come on!
	What therapist is going to prescribe OnlyFans to treat anxiety?
	I don't think they would, but I don't think he's been to a therapist.
	He didn't mention a therapist, did he?
	No, but the point is OnlyFans doesn't treat anxiety.
	OnlyFans is a coke because his girlfriend isn't hot.
	No, the therapist is the OnlyFans.
	He's paying money on the OnlyFans to get the therapist, I'm sure.
	That's why it costs so much.
	MuteStream.
	Is today a bad day to simp?
	F... F it.
	Hashtag Team Hugo forever.
	I don't think we can ever get rid of you simping, but you should.
	I'm assuming you're getting a boyfriend if you're simping for Hugo.
	You should probably form a better relationship with him or you'll get no Christmas presents.
	Convincing reality.
	The last needs to buck up her game and actually be honest from the get-go with her boyfriend and herself about what she will provide and expects in return, play silly games, and win silly prizes.
	True.
	Trevor McKenzie, first time catching you live.
	Wanted to give a little something for the years of information.
	Thank you very much.
	Andreas E. Also notes that relationship is dictated by a contract, a treaty between two parties.
	No emotion, no romance, no love.
	It is not a real relationship.
	Yep.
	That's how it sounds.
	I mean, maybe there's more to it, but she didn't say.
	Jack Squire sounds pretty communist to share your wealth with others.
	Ethoratory should be considered as an evolution of one of the oldest professions, and therefore capitalism.
	Well, it is.
	I mean, it definitely is, but that's not how we want to think about our romantic relationships, surely?
	Why would you want to commodify...
	How do you say the word?
	Commodify.
	Commodify your own relationships.
	Nothing good's going to come of that.
	Adam?
	Not just that.
	The whole view of romance is particularism and uniqueness.
	It's not universal and it's not interchangeable.
	So Gwaine can't just get another Guinevere or...
	You know, you can't just find another one, right?
	That's the only one, and that's the one that makes the story what the story is.
	Adam says, Carl and Callum are the only thoughts that I simp for.
	I don't really want to call this simping.
	I don't really regard it as simping, but it's more of keeping the business going.
	I suppose technically you're keeping Belle Delphine's business going, but the business is her.
	I'll think about this another time.
	Barashi, imagine just being a physical member of your boyfriend's harem.
	I mean, that's what it is.
	The rest of them are online.
	That's fantastic.
	Yeah, I mean, we weren't looking at this from his perspective, were we?
	Yeah, it's from him.
	He's got a pretty good deal.
	Yeah, the lowest value female is bothering me on Christmas again.
	Yeah.
	Oh god, she's going to break up with her and be like, eh.
	Thank goodness, now I can commit my time to the ladies who really matter.
	Mute stream.
	Carl, Belle Delphine earned about one million a month off her OnlyFans.
	Now explain why I'm stuck with Super Chats and I can't simp for a Hugo OnlyFans, owned by you.
	Good question.
	I don't know.
	I don't know why we haven't set up a Lotus Seas OnlyFans.
	At this point, I feel like Hugo could go independent.
	Just get funded by his own OnlyFans, you know?
	But no, stop.
	MuteStream again!
	More for the glasses, you thought.
	With a little heart.
	I probably should go to an old pissing check.
	I don't know what's wrong with me.
	Jaffo on the bound.
	OnlyFans is proof that these people believe in capitalism and don't believe in socialism.
	I mean, I don't think any of the FOTs are claiming to be socialists, are they?
	Yeah.
	I don't think the...
	What I think this is is a kind of consequence of leftism, like the desaturation of reality down to materialistic categories.
	So now the idea of romance was, oh, show me, demand some of it, show me it.
	Things that are kind of mystical that can't be quantified Can't really be talked about by the sort of bureaucratic left.
	And if you've got people who have just been through these, like, you know, the institutions, the process, and come out the other side, that's the way they think.
	It kind of formats their brains.
	I've just seen in the chat.
	From Swindon to the sea, Yugoslavia is free.
	Anyway.
	Gregor Schopen.
	Great start to the stream, Carl.
	Did you upset Klaus Schwab and the mold-cough-deep SJW state to cancel the podcast again?
	I'm not even in the office.
	Good luck.
	Well, you irritated him enough to take us down.
	Good luck and happy new year to the whole team.
	Greetings and eat a bratwurst.
	There is actually a Bradfurst Christmas store in town, so we might go back and get another one.
	I haven't had one yet.
	I'm assuming that goes German, but thanks.
	Even S. Question, is there a political party in the UK that has in their manifesto to gate the citizens their gun rights back?
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	Not that I'm aware of.
	Maybe one of the smaller populist types do.
	Maybe Lawrence Fox has an opinion on this.
	Can't help.
	The Earl of Longford.
	But is Byzantium really Roman?
	Hegel suggests we pinball from one good idea taken to a bad extreme to the next, keeping a reasonable amount.
	Thoughts?
	Yeah, the sort of Hegelian dialectic, which is the synthesis between the thesis and antithesis, assuming the true and correct parts of both are dragged through the process of synthesis into something new.
	Marx thought this was a sort of violent process, revolutionary process, that would end up with the overthrow of capitalism and into a new socialist golden age.
	But then Marx was wrong about a lot of things.
	I'm going to do a series on Marx at some point.
	For anyone wondering, the next book club is going to be Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, but at some point I'm going to do the Communist Manifesto and then various writings.
	I'll probably eventually get around to Capital as well.
	Andreas E. As a descendant of nobles of the Eastern Roman Empire, don't be surprised if I have an interest in identifying as a Roman.
	Who else is going to be the Romans if not the Eastern Roman Empire?
	That's all my point.
	Dusty Time for five US dollars.
	Thank you, man.
	Didn't say anything, but thanks.
	Eric Dieter.
	Forget hashtag omnibus.
	Trump should executive order suspend earned income 1Q2012. For most, over $2,000 over three months, reward workers, incentivize businesses to rehire, stop leeches on our system.
	By the way, irregardless, lol.
	This is, I assume, a reference to the thing we did yesterday of him signing the stimulus bill.
	And the suggestion was, well, why couldn't he just lower taxes on hiring people and wages like that?
	Because then you wouldn't have to hand out 2,000 bucks to everyone.
	You could just make them get jobs.
	And then surely this is better for everyone.
	It's not a bad argument, in my opinion, but...
	I don't know.
	I guess this is just the way American politics works.
	The Earl of Longford.
	Celt is a Roman word for everyone from Northern Italy, Cythenians, and Spaniards.
	We are the Gales, and I'd like my reparations from Cromwell for burning my castle.
	You ain't getting it.
	Yeah, you ain't getting it, but you could claim reparations for quite a long way back, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if...
	I assume the Earl of Longford is in Ireland, and I don't know if he's been to Westminster.
	Well, we actually have a statue of Cromwell in Westminster.
	So just to let you know.
	Mute stream.
	Don't lie, Hugo was hired to get simp money.
	Well, at this point...
	You're paying his wages, so...
	Shadowfox2300.
	Lol, I'm not a simp.
	I'm a shrimp.
	God bless the hololive girls.
	I don't know what Hololive is, but stop being a simp.
	If you are one.
	Jay Stewart, when you feel alone in a crowded place, that is when you know community has failed and society is not too far behind.
	Best that change starts at home.
	Yeah, I mean...
	Good way of putting it.
	I'm not old enough to really remember, you know, before the internet, but the internet does seem to be an atomizing force that's...
	atomization does suck.
	It's not good.
	I'm assuming that's Mikhail Iskasen.
	You should read up on how Sweden experimented on people in the recent past.
	Good to know when our regime claimed to be a moral superpower.
	Really horrible stuff.
	I'm assuming in psychiatric wards and things, because we did something similar back in the day.
	But yeah, what do you always make of Sweden's government claiming to be, oh, we're not a superpower, we're a moral superpower.
	So we must import loads of migrants and we must do loads of foreign aid and all the rest of it.
	Seems like they're making up for something, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, they sided with the Nazis, didn't they?
	No, neutral, but...
	Yeah, yeah.
	Sorry, yeah.
	We're neutral to the Nazis.
	Yeah, sure you are.
	That, as far as I'm concerned, is siding with the Nazis.
	You sent them loads of resources, loads of raw materials.
	You didn't have to get liberated.
	You know, come on.
	But this is a big cope for having been on the wrong side of history.
	And anyone who tells you that, oh, I'm really moral, that means that they're not actually as moral as they think they are.
	They want you to just believe it to reassure them and reinforce their delusions.
	What are you hiding, Sweden?
	We're in the camps, Sweden.
	Dirty Belter.
	OnlyFans is just another kind of porn.
	I don't think it is.
	I wish it was.
	Yeah, I really wish it was.
	That'd be easy to live with.
	I wouldn't care about it if it was.
	It's like paying for an escort to give you a head pat.
	That's the point.
	The simp wants attention without getting to really know the woman, so the attention is one way.
	I don't know.
	It definitely is like getting a head pat from an escort.
	I think the prolonged nature of the relationship, if you can call it that, is something different.
	Yeah.
	John's just reloaded the page.
	Sorry.
	Is Project Melody really VR, though?
	There are people discussing whether or not Project Melody is simping.
	Are you even getting attention from Project Melody?
	It's an AI. It's interactive.
	Yeah, but it's not real, you know?
	Eric Dieter, I can lay out my political philosophy backed by historic foundations and society, but would take about an hour.
	Hashtag federalism has failed.
	Well, that's good.
	Antonio L. Chagulay, boys.
	Go back and watch your analysis of Starship Troopers.
	The way that society is corrupted, collapses, and then becomes the Terran Republic seems almost like prophecy at this point.
	Service guarantees citizenship.
	The social sciences brought mankind to the brink of ruin.
	It's like, yep, that's where we are.
	Just happening in real time.
	You're living in the novel.
	Joseph Wolfe for 50 US dollars.
	Jeez.
	Didn't say anything.
	But thanks.
	Thanks, man.
	Jesus.
	Nightmarish Visions.
	Damn it, guys.
	Snap-on is a company that sells expensive, high-quality tools with lifetime warranties.
	Like, think £100 for a spanner.
	Just good shilling we've got going on here.
	Okay.
	Well, Snap-on's getting some good PR, I guess.
	Mr.
	Twisted Frenzy.
	What advice, if any, would you give to someone who has recently turned 30, has no career prospects, no drive or ambitions, and has absolutely no idea what they want to do with their life?
	I'm not answering this.
	Sorry, say again.
	I didn't hear it.
	What advice, if any, would you give to someone who's 30 and has no career prospects, ambitions, or doesn't know what to do with their life?
	30?
	Um...
	Focus on what your interests are.
	So figure out the thing that you would do if you were just left on your own or if you were given like a million pounds, you know, what would you just do, you know, and find a way of making that into something that maybe you can monetize and turn into a career.
	It's actually, the internet has given us remarkable options for monetizing things that otherwise couldn't have been monetized or would have been more difficult to do so.
	And it's the monetization of it that makes it the career for you that means you get up in the morning and you enjoy what you do, like I happen to with this.
	I tell you, I was gutted that I'm not allowed in the office for a week.
	I don't know why.
	I was genuinely kind of upset about it.
	Because I've got a routine.
	I get up, I ride my bike into the office.
	We get the stuff done for the podcast.
	I do whatever reading or whatever it is I'm doing.
	And I ride back and then I'm a dad for a few hours and then I've got hours in the evening to read.
	So I've got this really good routine and I'm really happy with the routine.
	And this has completely destroyed my routine.
	I'm really unhappy about it.
	I'm very, very bothered by it.
	But yeah, basically you have to find something that you just gravitate to and then focus on that as if this was a career or a degree or something that you're working towards.
	That's what I would recommend.
	Just find something you would happily work on every day.
	Less Than Mankind.
	At this point, talking from experience, there are more men that make better women than real women.
	Definitely in the West.
	I mean, you came to Poland with me, and there's a noticeable difference just on being in a foreign country for a little bit, seeing how much more feminine the women are.
	And when I went to Russia, it's even more pronounced.
	I always found that in the Mediterranean.
	Mediterranean women are incredibly womanly.
	Spanish women put a lot of effort into being women.
	Italian women put a lot of effort into being women.
	And they have quite high demands made of their men.
	You can see them.
	I don't think my wife would make this many demands on me.
	So that's the funny thing about Russia though.
	The women are unbelievably beautiful and then the men just look like potatoes.
	It's just like, what happened here, man?
	Like, how many died?
	Millions, I guess.
	The Grand Inquisitor.
	A snap-on tool truck is a truck that goes around to auto repair shop and sells tools to mechanics in the US. Most mechanics are in debt to snap-on because of financing high-end tools.
	So I guess the eThoughts would drive around the US offering their services, which go like ice cream bands or something.
	No thanks.
	I've got a relationship with my ice cream man, though.
	He really loves me.
	You sent me a birthday card.
	Yeah, he sent me a birthday card after I spent £500 on ice cream.
	Andrew Cruz, today is my 29th birthday, single since 21 and still no OnlyFans.
	Would appreciate some intimacy but have forgotten how.
	To get out there, I guess.
	I mean, it's tough to say at the moment because lockdowns and all the rest of it.
	Yeah, you're legally prohibited from having sex with something you don't live with.
	Yeah.
	Proud of you for no OnlyFans, though.
	I think one of the tricks is sincerity.
	You've got to be sincere about things.
	And that's difficult and scary.
	So...
	DRT is king.
	The simp problem will solve itself once we can clone our ideal women.
	Thus the scales will be balanced with science and capitalism.
	The angel outlaw.
	My wife and I have a filter between us and both understand the occasional fight is just part of the years.
	You need to grow up together or you will grow apart.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Christian, Hugo VTuber, debut when?
	Finabye member.
	I, what the, what's Finabye?
	I'm assuming that's like internet speak, I don't understand.
	That dude's girl is a personified cool sock.
	Saw loser.
	It's not about the UK right to a weapon.
	It is the entire right to self-defense.
	That's true.
	You can't even defend your own property with a sword in this country legally.
	You have to do it against the law.
	Mute stream.
	At last known, H in the chat.
	Jesus Christ.
	EZE, we have considered that maybe the accumulation of wealth the left complains about is the exploitation of OnlyFans and the ethots taking their boyfriend's cash.
	Maybe.
	I mean, wouldn't it be hilarious if Belle Delphine gets on the top 10 rich list?
	What are we going to do?
	But, like, what's the fate of Belle Delphine, though?
	Right?
	Because, like, the way the Greeks looked at it is you had to take a person...
	You couldn't say a person was happy until they died, because you'd have to take the whole scheme of their life into account.
	And what if Belle Delphine is, like, murdered by some bitter girlfriend?
	Like this woman who wrote the Am I the Arsehole?
	What if she ends up shooting Belle Delphine for stealing her position from her boyfriend?
	You know?
	You don't know.
	Obviously, I don't want that to happen, but you don't know what's going to happen.
	So it's like, is that an enviable life?
	Would you have wanted to be that?
	I do wonder if anyone's interviewed her and asked, what do you actually want to do when you're dead?
	What do you want to look back on?
	Is this what you want to do or what?
	It's not me trying to be rude to her.
	I genuinely wonder what, like you said, if you give someone $10 billion, what would you do with your time?
	Because you don't need to make money anymore.
	Where was I? The NGO Outlaw.
	If time can be affected by gravity, and it is the base commodity behind the economy, does that make time a material construct?
	No.
	Aromatic, crispy bat.
	OnlyFans' e-fots are massive tax dodgers.
	Facts.
	Yeah, I mean, do you remember the thought audit back in the day?
	Everyone was pointing it to the IRS. Oh yeah.
	I see no reason why that has to stop.
	No, no, there's been constant auditing.
	It's a massive industry now.
	They've got to pay their taxes.
	Please stop sending Superchats.
	We need to round it up.
	Yeah, we really do need to.
	Sorry, French.
	I can't read French.
	Regarding the gun rights in the UK, there is the Libertarian Party UK, which has set a constitution for the UK in 2019 manifesto, and then there's a link to their manifesto.
	Yeah, Libertarian Party UK. They seem like great guys.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Mute stream.
	I am sorry on behalf of the Swedes for our government, and Greta, nobody likes her.
	Yeah, nobody does.
	In Inkster, Erdogan occupies the self-same office as Romulus.
	None of the invasions since the Roman Kingdom formally abolished it, not even after World War I. That's interesting.
	That's very interesting.
	I'm going to look that up.
	Erdogan is the true Roman.
	Michael Iskansson Is there a way to keep psychopaths from clawing their way to powerful positions and causing mayhem or would the cure be worse than the symptom?
	P.S. if we had camps and did medical experiments you could say no that's the example of a psychopath I guess.
	You can say Michael son of Isaac Sorry.
	So is there a way to actually stop Psychopaths getting to the top of government without being tyrannical?
	Probably not.
	We haven't figured out a way yet.
	No.
	Max Jones.
	OnlyFans is being an escort without the hepatitis.
	It's more than that.
	It's more than that.
	Yeah, it's the relationship.
	Online Alice Sook.
	I'm assuming that's meant to be Hay.
	Hay, have you seen?
	David Woods, Five Rules for Life.
	Jordan Peterson, Take Off.
	It's just over one minute long.
	I haven't.
	Sorry.
	David Woods is great.
	David Woods is a good guy.
	Joseph Wolfe?
	Did you call me Joseph Wolfe?
	I thought I did.
	Oh, it's just Josiah?
	Right.
	Please stop sending them.
	We do have other things I've got to do.
	We have to do.
	Boogeyman917, for argument's sake, isn't OnlyFans monetizing something?
	Yeah, it is.
	But the problem is it's monetizing relationships.
	It's not monetizing sex.
	It's not good.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Pornography is monetizing sex, but that's not what's going on here.
	Or at least that's not the part of it that's bad.
	Convincing reality.
	Project Melody is a real person using a 3D avatar.
	And if you're simping for that, I don't know what's wrong with you.
	I'm not talking about reality, I'm just talking about the people who do.
	The Nico Bozo.
	Nolan's Batman trilogy is terrifying when you look at it from a 2020 perspective.
	A happy lion.
	No self-defense for civilians.
	Is the law siding with criminals?
	True.
	Awakened Man.
	All this simping shows men are lost.
	That's why I made a new channel all about men finding themselves called Awakened Man.
	Would appreciate a shout-out.
	Love the new format, lads.
	Keep up the good work.
	Thank you very much, and check out Awakened Man if you want to see his thoughts on that.
	Please...
	We're going to do the last what's on this page and then we're going to have to go.
	So, no more.
	DRTSKing.
	The VTubers offer a lot of the emotional support of e-girls while being anime girls.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if you want that kind of thing, just go on YouTube.
	You don't have to pay for it.
	No, go outside.
	God, get outside and meet a person.
	Well, you can't.
	You've got to stay indoors, Carl.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry, I forgot the government and made us...
	Oh, God.
	Ian Rolfe.
	No, I will never stop.
	Thunderstorm.
	Why don't simps pull their coin and start a business?
	What would it be?
	I don't even know what they would do.
	I mean, there's a good question, but what are they trying to trade?
	Anyway, that's ended there, because we have to head off.
	It's already half past two.
	Thanks for tuning in, guys.

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