Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters for Thursday the 3rd of December 2020.
Thank you for joining us.
I'm joined by Callum, and we're going to be talking about the fire that appears to have been set under the MAGA patriots in the United States.
Labour defending...
Convicted criminals from being deported, for some reason, and the sort of trend towards the destruction of beauty and youth that is popular on TikTok, which I have questions about, at the very least.
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You might think, well, hang on, that sounds like a bit of an old, archaic thing to read, but trust me, it's worth your time.
Thomas Paine being one of the people who was very influential on the American Revolution, because I've been studying the sort of Enlightenment revolutions since the American Revolution through the French and then through the Paris Commune onto the Russian Revolution.
And then in China and various other places.
And it's all fascinating work that really we should be aware of since we are kind of the inheritors of the Enlightenment tradition and we need to know what it's all about.
So that's my pitch.
Go sign up for our book club on the website.
It's really good.
And we're going to have another one as well that myself and Hugo will be doing about Frank Dicotta's Dictators.
Learning about 20th century dictators.
And it's really interesting the threads that tie them all together.
But that'll be up probably early next week.
But you can go sign up for the book club and check that out.
Anyway, in the meantime, let's talk about how 1776 is back, baby, according to the Republican Patriots.
But we're not going to start quite at that point.
We're going to start first at the...
The presentation of Joe Biden by the media.
The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and a few others have been publishing letters to the editor that all focus around a singular topic.
How can Joe Biden heal the nation?
This is a very optimistic statement.
I don't think Joe Biden can heal the nation.
I think that he is in fact the thing that is tearing the nation apart.
Or at least the fiction of his victory that about 47% of the United States, according to one Rasmussen poll, believe.
They think the election was stolen including 30% of Democrats.
But anyway, from this one, this is a letter from an Agrassi Bagramian from the University of San Diego's Law Department.
He says,"...all people and ideas should be welcome in America.
For that to be more than an aspiration, Joe Biden needs to make it clear to his supporters that holding beliefs different from their own doesn't make a fellow American their enemy.
He must emphasize that America isn't this awful place flushed with systemic racism, that hard work and personal responsibility still go a long way in this country, no matter what your background." So, that's quite a staggering statement to start with, because, I mean, how can he do that without alienating, like, a third of the Democrats?
It can't happen.
But the thing I take most exception to is all people and ideas should be welcome in America.
Not really.
I mean, America itself is an idea.
It's founded on a constitution, which is a set of ideas codified that everyone pledges allegiance to, not the land, not the people they pledge to the constitution.
And so what this means is you are pledging to an ideological framework.
And so ideas that are against this ideological framework actually shouldn't be welcome in America.
It actually should be normal to gatekeep against them.
And this is precisely what Mr.
Bagriyaman is saying.
You know, we must emphasize that America isn't a place flush with systemic racism.
The next one he goes to, denouncing the radical ideas that have tainted our educational institutions over the past 10 to 15 years and are leaking into the corporate world would allow for a renewed appreciation of the fact that there are good people on both sides of the argument.
The problem is, you've said that all ideas should be welcome in America, and then you're like, well, we need to denounce these radical ideas.
Then not all ideas are welcome.
You know, your own thinking on this is inherently confused and contradictory.
And nobody has told this chap who's, you know, university educated, got a law degree.
Like, nobody's explained to him that, look, you can't have these two things in concert.
These are contradictory.
But this is the theme of the sort of appeal to Joe Biden and his unification.
It's like, well, can we just have all of this stuff that actually goes against one another?
And the answer is no.
And so if we go to the New York Times one, how Biden can unify the country.
Again, this is a proposal from a reader.
During his first hundred days, he should just hold town halls with Trump voters, just Trump voters.
He should ask them to share what most worries them.
He should listen carefully.
After those town halls, he should report publicly on what concerns most prevalent and what concrete steps his admission will be taking to try and address those concerns in a reasonable and balanced way.
Right?
When we get to the clips of the Trump supporters and what their concerns are, you'll see this is just a pipe dream.
This can't happen.
It's never going to happen.
It's because the demands on one side are ridiculous and totally un-American.
The demands of the Joe Biden side, all people, all ideas should be welcome in America.
That's not possible.
It's just not possible.
You can't have all people coming to America.
You can't have all ideas being present in America without it tearing itself apart.
But anyway, we'll get to just how...
I just want to put a pin in that.
We'll come back to it and just remember what they said when we actually get to hear how the Trump supporters are treating this.
And I just want to be clear, I fully support the Trump supporters in this.
It very much looks to me like this has been still in an election, and the sort of veneer of, oh, well, we should all come together, we should unify, as I'm sure you've seen, is absurd and insulting, I would suggest.
Polisco go full-on to the sort of Pravda, North Korean sort of style outlets.
Oh, Biden could be a larger-than-life president.
What?
No, he can't.
He can't be a larger-than-life anything.
He's not inspiring anyone.
And the funniest...
He's barely alive.
Exactly, right?
The funniest thing about this is if you go down to just the first paragraph, Joe Biden did not quicken any pulses during his long march to the presidency.
It was Donald Trump's job to supply the energy to Biden's campaign.
Just a shade more than he supplied to his own.
Democrats last March, after months of fidgety comparison shopping, made Biden the Guess He'll Do nominee.
In November, it seems evident to everyone but Trump that the general electorate has made Biden the fine Let's Give Him a Try president.
You can't even describe Biden's win in a way that sounds convincing.
80 million.
80 million votes.
Most in history.
Second most was Trump, by the way.
Record-breaking the pair of them would have been.
But nobody wanted him.
They know that nobody wanted him.
But literally millions of people want Trump.
They really want Trump.
Now that his lifetime ambition has been achieved, the question is whether the former vice president can vault above adequacy and do something momentous.
Can Joe Biden be a great president?
No, he cannot be a great president.
I wouldn't even suggest he could be a president.
To have half of the country essentially think that you are illegitimate is pretty dramatic.
It's staggering.
And so we're going now to Bill Barr.
Bilba has been a generally fairly reliable attorney general, I would suggest.
I'm no expert, but it seems that he has been fair-minded in the other cases, like the Russiagate and all of these other trumped-up charges against Trump that just turned out to have nothing behind them.
Bill Barr was actually quite fair.
He had both sides of the story.
And so it was quite insulting, I think, for him to come out and essentially parrot the mainstream media line.
This was an interview with the Associated Press where he said, quote, to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election.
This drove people mad because there does seem to be large amounts of vote fraud in five specific places.
This was responded to by Rudy Giuliani saying, with all due respect to the Attorney General, there hasn't been a semblance of an investigation into the President's complaints, which is true, and local Republicans in some battleground states have followed Trump in making unsupported claims, according to AP, prompting grave concerns over potential damage to American democracy.
They're the ones with the concerns about the damage to American democracy.
AP. Just so you know.
But go on.
I'm not sure I actually trust the AP to quote him properly here, because I've seen Bill Barr before Congress talking about mail-in ballots, and he was very much on the side of this is wide open to fraud.
Yes, it is.
So the idea that he thinks, oh no, everything's fine, I think that's probably a quote mine where they've taken that one quote.
Yeah, I don't trust the Associated Press either.
But we'll get to that, because the way that this was reported, I mean, you can just take up the Metro article for an example.
Now, Donald Trump's top government lawyer admits Joe Biden won fair and square.
That's not what he said.
Saying that we have not seen any evidence yet is not the same as saying this didn't happen.
And this article is just riddled with false statements that are, as you say, essentially a form of sort of quote mining.
But this prompted the Department of Justice to come out and actually make a statement themselves.
We can go to the next one.
They literally had to say,"...some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department of Justice has concluded its investigation into election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election.
That is not what the Associated Press reported, nor what the Attorney General stated.
The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible." So they are still investigating.
The media is once again lying.
And again, I think it all ties back into the narrative that, oh, Joe Biden is a uniter.
We're all going to come together.
We're going to bring the Trump supporters in.
We're all going to talk to them.
And it's really, really, it's just gross to watch.
It's really quite gross.
It's in trying to hoodwink the public to the point where, I mean, like, literally Biden with his office of the president-elect in the background.
It's like, there's no such thing.
The Congress came out and wrote a letter saying there's no such thing, Joe.
And you're still there, embarrassingly, doing it.
Like, Fox News filmed, like...
A meeting with him and a Zoom call, you know, talking about these things.
And he's just droning in front of this thing.
And it's like, okay, so this is all big fiction.
He's not elected to anything.
He is not anyone.
He is just what the media is postulating and promoting.
And they can't even talk about him in glowing terms.
They can't even talk about him positively.
They're trying, but there's just nothing there.
Well, you know, no one was set alight by Biden's campaign.
Trump provided the energy to Biden's campaign.
No.
But he didn't win!
Okay.
So it sort of sounds like a Communist Party member trying to write a poem about the dear leader, and they have no idea.
There's nothing inspiring.
They've just got to make stuff up.
Exactly.
But to be fair, the idea that he's stood in front of this sign that says President-Elect, and he's droning on and the media don't really know what to do with it.
I mean, if he does win, that's not going to be any different.
He'll have the office of the President, and he'll just be the same guy.
Exactly.
And it will all be the sort of media fiction that has been created.
But anyway, so yeah, going back very quickly, don't worry about changing anything, to Biden unifying the country and having, he should have town halls with the Trump supporters.
Well, let's see what the Trump supporters are saying.
Okay.
Love it.
That's amazing.
Love it.
Love everything about it.
It's the most American thing I've ever seen.
And I wholeheartedly endorse 1776 being back.
Again, like Alex Jones, when he was talking to Piers Morgan, 1776 will commence again if you try and take your guns.
Well, here we go.
It's actually commencing again now.
This was a Stop the Steal rally in Georgia, where they had a Georgia senator on the stage.
They had Lynn Wood, who's one of Trump's lawyers.
They had Sidney Powell, who I guess is not one of Trump's lawyers, but is working with their campaign team.
But the whole thing was actually, I actually found it quite inspirational, to be honest.
Linwood was a surprisingly good orator.
Very fiery, as you can see.
And it was, it felt like fire.
I mean, they were pulling absolutely no punches.
Sydney Powell had a remarkably good presence.
She's not a natural speaker, but she has a kind of grace and dignity around herself where she's like, no, this is the case.
This is right.
We're taking it seriously.
She was very well-dressed.
She...
Was very credible looking.
If I was an American, I could see this resonating with a lot of, like, normal Americans who were like, no, the Democrats are up to something really shady.
We've got all of this information.
We've got all of this evidence.
And the fact that the media is denying all of this, I can definitely...
It just makes it worse, doesn't it?
Yeah, exactly.
It looks like there's a big theatre production being put on by the media.
Whereas, like, and these are real people.
You know, you can tell they've got the sort of...
They've got regional accents.
They're appealing to American mythos.
They're not saying, well, the rules say this and the numbers were this.
No, we're Americans.
1776 is commencing again.
It's back.
All this sort of stuff.
They're invoking the Bible, which as an atheist is weird sounding to me, but I can see that it's clearly got traction with these folks.
They seem to be turning into conservative versions of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Obviously not the same person, but like, and not for the same cause, but the same attitude as in, no, we are just going to fight you now.
You know, it's coming down to the fight.
We're not going to compromise with you.
We are just going to have it out with you.
To be fair, though, I remember the exact same, well, not the exact same, but a very similar thing happening after Obama and the rise of the Tea Party.
Like, the same kind of energy, same kind of rhetoric, same kind of, as you're thinking, we're just going to go after you.
The difference with the Tea Party, though, is the Tea Party, I saw a bunch of the rallies, I went back and watched them from 2011, and the Tea Party folk were just basically saying Obama is a communist.
And so it wasn't that they thought there was something illegitimate about the procedure.
It was that they objected to Obama's policies.
They objected to what he wanted to do.
But they weren't saying that the thing has been falsified or stolen or something like that.
But there seems to be lots of evidence that it is in this case.
And it seems that these folks are given a kind of legitimacy from that that the Tea Party just didn't have.
The Tea Party was ideological.
Whereas these people have got an entirely sort of practical, on-the-ground, real-world And so it's an open fight.
But the thing is, I don't blame them for being like this because it seems to me that every point the Democrats are just doing what they can to destroy the Republicans.
It seems to be about destroying them.
When it comes to anything, it's like, right, well, you're going to have five Republican Supreme Court justices?
Well, we'll pack the court.
Joe Biden, will you pack the court?
I'm not going to answer that.
The American people don't deserve to know.
That means yes!
And he literally said this to a journalist.
Yeah, I watched.
He literally said this.
So it's like, well, that means you're going to do it, right?
So that means, again, by foul means, you're going to try and achieve what you want to get.
And then you've got, like, the pro-mass immigration, all of this stuff, because they think that the immigrants are going to vote for them.
So they think they can win through demographic change.
But Trump showed that that's not going to happen.
He started making gains in all of these categories, all of these sort of, you know, immigrant categories.
Because they're not just unthinking automatons who are just like, yes, Massa, I'll vote for the Democrats, like the Democrats think of them.
No, no, no, no.
They can see when something's going wrong, and they can see when there's a more wholesome alternative in Trump.
And they started voting for Trump.
And the CNN leaks from Project Veritas, you can see that in the way that they're like, oh, the Cubans love a bully and stuff like that.
And it's like...
The Cubans love someone who's going to stand up for Republican values.
You're a republic.
We saw on election night, like all the leftists on Twitter, when the news was coming in about the Cubans in Florida, tack-fearing them from the Latinx race.
They're not Latinx, they're not part of us anymore.
They're white men now.
They're white.
It's like, oh, welcome to the club.
It sucks, but you get to at least fight for something you believe in.
So the point was that the Republicans are clearly not interested, sort of the MAGA patriots, are clearly not interested in the false, the lie that is buying into an inclusive Biden presidency.
And it was genuinely nice as well.
Like, Sidney Powell, the first woman who came up to Sidney Powell to ask questions, because they just did it like we do live shows, right?
People just line up and we'll just take questions and we'll just answer them.
And so they did exactly the same thing.
Again, very open, very transparent.
It was Joe Biden.
It looked very choreographed, stage managed.
All of the people on the Zoom call with Biden had scripts, right?
None of the people had scripts when talking to these other people.
So they're real people with real concerns.
It's really on their mind, you know?
They don't need to rehearse it.
And the first woman, it was really sweet.
She just came and said, Sidney, you're my hero, you know?
And it's like, That's lovely.
It was very much the same with the conferences.
I'm sure you saw how fake the Democratic one was.
Robotic presenters, the robotic call-ins.
And then the Republican one, sure, it still stayed Spanish, but you could tell it was very much more amateur and in a good way.
It's more flexible.
There's a lot more room for foibles to be demonstrated.
And it just feels more human, doesn't it?
I mean, this is something...
We actually have an article on the website about this with YouTube that's also true.
Like, the leftist sphere on YouTube is entirely centralized around a few small bubbles that make up the majority of all the content and all the views.
Whereas if you go to the right, it's so decentralized, it's almost kind of beautiful.
Yeah, it's just Fox.
I think it's why you also say about that accent thing.
Like, one of the problems with the rise of media was that you've got these centralized accents, so BBC accent...
Dan Rather, CNN. Yeah, so you get rid of all the regional ones.
And with the growth of the internet, with the decentralized nature of the right wing on YouTube, you get everyone under the sun.
So you end up with all these wholesome, homegrown accents everywhere.
Yeah, I love it.
So this is scaring the hell out of the Republican Party.
And the Republican Party, because you've got Raffensperger in Georgia, who is clearly not like a hardcore MAGA guy.
And there are allegations that he's been paid by China, that he's been paid by Dominion, that, you know, I can't confirm or deny any of these allegations, obviously.
But he seems to have been placed in a very uncomfortable position where it looks like, essentially, the GOP, the Republican Party, get on board with this, or they're going to get torched down.
There is no way the MAGA movement is just going to let the Republicans go, well, you know, he got the election, the numbers are in, that's it, we've got nothing to say.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Warpath.
This is a warpath, and you have to understand that you either get in line with it, or you get burned down by it.
There is too much power and energy behind what the MAGAs are doing.
But let's watch this clip a second, sorry.
No, the clip that was in that, yeah, the CNN one, yeah, that one, please.
Right, so you can hear that he's genuinely afraid.
That was the voting manager for Georgia.
And obviously, do not harass people, do not threaten people, do not do any of these things.
But what I'm doing is just telling people what I think is happening, and I'm not endorsing it at all.
It's just that I think there is a huge amount of momentum and frustration built up within the sort of patriot movement...
That is expressing itself in negative ways.
And it's because of things like them saying, well, there's no evidence for it.
Like, the way that Bill Barr was quoted is like, well, there's no evidence of widespread fraud.
Why are you using the word widespread?
Is there evidence of fraud?
Yes, there's evidence of fraud.
In fact, we can watch the next clip.
This is from the, I think it was the Michigan hearing that Rudy Giuliani had yesterday.
This is a woman who admits that she committed fraud.
She was instructed by the person organising the counting of the ballots, her supervisor, to commit fraud.
She was told to backdate ballots.
So she personally sat there, and when a ballot came in for the 3rd or the 4th or whatever it is, she backdated it to the 2nd, because the deadline was 9 o'clock on the 3rd of November.
And so she was just instructed to backdate all of these ballots.
So she did a few and thought, hang on, I shouldn't be doing this.
But I'll let her tell it.
Thank you.
That's just her admitting that she was conducting fraud during the ballot count.
So you can see why people are angry.
And so Trump, yesterday, came out and gave what is being most charitably described as a defiant speech.
And the thing is, it was actually not one of his best speeches.
Trump has given way better speeches than this.
But he does lay out the case that, look, I think this election was stolen.
We're not going to accept this.
In fact, this is a quote that RealClearPolitics gives.
I did watch the thing.
It was like 45 minutes long, though, and it was a bit dull.
And, like I said, it wasn't his best, but he says, It was about many other things, but above all, it was about fraud.
This election was rigged.
Everybody knows it.
I don't mind if I lose an election, but I want to lose an election fair and square.
What I don't want to do is have it stolen from the American people.
That's what we're fighting for.
We have no choice to be doing that.
We already have the proof.
We already have the evidence.
And it's very clear.
Many people in the media and even judges have so far refused to accept it.
They know it's true.
They know it's there.
They know who won the election, but they refuse to say, you're right.
Our country needs somebody to say, you're right.
Ultimately, I'm prepared to accept any accurate election result.
And I hope that Joe Biden is as well.
I think that Trump is right.
I think there is proof.
There is evidence.
I mean, there is a woman literally coming out and said, I committed fraud because I was instructed to do so.
And so the idea that there's no evidence, there's no witnesses, there's nothing concrete, and that the Americans should just accept it and, oh, come into Joe Biden's loving embrace.
The Dear Leader, it's absurd.
And I can see why people are refusing to go along with it.
I can see why people are getting so angry.
Obviously don't do anything crazy, but it looks like the MAGA movement is coming out swinging.
It's not going to go away.
It's definitely not.
I was going to think, you know, they were speaking about, oh, we need to unify the nation, all the rest of it.
What actually does bringing the nation together look like?
And the only thing I can think of that's similar to this is the George Bush-Al Gore dispute that went on forever.
And I rewatched Gore's speech after it was confirmed that he'd lost.
I think that is actually a moment where you can come together in the same way that Obama invited Trump to come to the White House to discuss North Korea and whatnot before the transition power.
But that's the thing.
You wouldn't say to Al Gore, oh, the right thing to do is for the nation to come together.
So just concede.
Just concede.
So no, I think there's problems here.
I don't accept what's happening in Florida.
We need to find out what really happened.
Well, the thing that has to happen for the nation to be able to come together and what Joe Biden needs to do is say we need to have these particular five states audited.
You need to prove that I won.
Fair and square.
He's not going to do that because he created the largest and most inclusive voter fraud organization in American history, direct quote.
He's not going to do that because he knows it's going to come up, oh, look at all this stuff.
Look at all these witnesses.
Look at the people who admitted they cheated for him.
I mean, I'm not going to pretend that he's some sort of innocent angel and had no idea.
I think he does have an idea.
But at the end of the day, if you had operated in good faith and there were all these allegations, I'm sure that if...
I don't think that Trump cheated, right?
I think that Trump worked.
And I think that he pounded the ground and he promoted his message and got a lot of votes on the back of that.
But if the allegations were all coming from one side and the Democrats saying that Trump cheated, I bet Trump would come out and say, well, audit it.
Order everything.
You know, go through everything, you know, forensically, ballot by ballot.
This is what happened with Gore.
You know, they went back, what was it, like three recounts or some ridiculous amount of hanging chads?
I can't remember.
But, you know, a whole month of going back and forth, and then eventually both of them saying, yeah, check it out, and eventually he said, okay, George Bush is won.
And that's what Biden needs to do.
He needs to say, okay, fine, whatever, go through the whole thing, and then, okay, he's won or Trump's won.
Someone gives the concession speech.
That's how you bring the country together.
You don't bring the country together by just saying, shut up and accept it.
Yep, just get on board with the Biden train.
You know, come into Biden's, you know, sniffy embrace.
Like, it's...
No, you can't do that.
You know, these people have legitimate grievances and legitimate concerns, and they have to be answered for by Biden and his team.
They have to recognise this.
But, anyway, that's...
Is that what we left off?
I thought we did Coffee Boiler, please do get Computing Forever on.
I don't remember doing that one.
Yeah, we did.
Ah, okay.
Right, so, Adherent Lady of Columbia, of Lady Columbia.
Hey, Sargon and Cruz, some pretty bad news.
Looks like Razor Fist was purged off of Twitter and Facebook last night.
The noose is getting closer.
Jesus, Razor Fist.
Like...
Twitter and Facebook.
I love Razor Fist.
I love the guy's rants.
They're amazing.
He's got such great delivery.
But he's not a radical.
He's a Republican.
He's like a 1776 Republican.
He doesn't have radical ideas about demographics or anything like this.
He is pretty predictably conservative.
So he's probably said something about the election that they don't like.
Yeah.
But what's more, he said something about the election that was effective.
And obviously I've been watching his videos, his videos have been effective.
I love that as well.
Facebook and what was it?
Was it YouTube?
Sorry, Facebook and Twitter.
It's like, yeah, two companies that don't coordinate on who they ban, I swear.
Yeah, exactly.
MuteStream says, Josh Callum, don't make me laugh.
Hugo is best boy.
Well, don't let him get a big head about it.
Just stop purging simps.
Yeah.
Fen Fen says, 1776 is back on the menu.
The age of soy is over.
Yeah, and honestly, I'm really loving watching it.
Really loving watching it.
SNL Draco says, build Hadrian's Wall and make Scotland pay for it.
Scotland hasn't got any bloody money.
They're not going to be able to pay for it.
English tax money will go through Scotland to pay for the rebuilding of Cajun's Wall.
RedFoxMoon says, have some more shill bucks from Norway and I apologise for yesterday, you're also handsome.
Oh no, it's too late now.
It's too late now, my friend.
You know, you have outed yourself as a Josh simp, okay?
You can go for a couple.
bean water in the ocean 1812 will commence again yeah nobody can have the white house except the canadians yeah i'm loving this fighting cork uh michael waters bumped into an interstate mate yesterday just finished isolation nose is stuffy tonight can't taste turkish delight dirty eastern Stator?
Yeah, someone from the East.
Okay, well, good luck, Michael, because it does sound like you may have the coronavirus, but on the plus side, you'll probably survive.
I mean, what is that, Australian?
So, I mean, you'd be very unlucky, considering the numbers, if it is coronavirus.
Yes, yes, you would be very unlucky.
Tom Boulevant, just want to remind everyone that it is the position of Her Majesty's governments that the nutritional value of a Scotch egg is dependent on how it is obtained.
And also that Michael Gove looks like Gollum got stung by a wasp.
I mean, the last part about Gove is definitely true.
But you're absolutely right.
Have they actually issued that?
That it depends on if it's free range or games or something?
Yeah, we covered it yesterday.
The ridiculous questions of, is a Scotch egg a substantial meal?
Well, they literally said it depends if it has table service.
What does that mean?
Does it come with chips?
Is that what it means?
No, it's delivered to your table.
I guess they think it will prevent you from crowding the bar and catching Corona or whatever, but what a ridiculous way of framing it.
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You've probably been asked for this before, but I have the dosh, so I'll ask this here for $10.
Thank you.
Better to go for gold tier or stay $50 subscribe star tier?
Well, Subscribestar will be shutting down eventually, so better to go for the Gold tier.
The tiers are actually not accurately represented on the website at the moment either.
Basically, everything in the Silver tier will be in the Bronze tier, everything in the Gold tier will be in the Silver tier, and then the Gold tier will be everything else, as well as regular Zoom calls that we're going to do.
We're going to do one tomorrow, in fact, where you can just, like, just a free-form, you know, Friday afternoon, we'll just get everyone around and have a Q&A. How much is the gold tier?
£30.
So I'm wondering, if someone wants to give more, should we set up a button where they can set an X amount?
I don't know, I hadn't thought about it.
Literally designing the website in a stream.
Yeah, I'm not a very good capitalist.
Does the website have a web push notification?
I don't even know what that is.
No, I don't.
I'm being told no.
Can we get one?
We can ask.
What does that mean?
Like you get a notification when you sign on to Google or something?
When there's an update, I guess.
Although there are a couple of new articles going up today from Josh and Hugo, which I haven't read yet actually, but I'm sure will be very, very good.
Paulie P., I have Dakota's Dictators in my pile of books yet to be read.
I hope your review doesn't spoil the ending.
It won't spoil the ending, but what we'll be doing is just talking about the commonalities between the dictators.
And there's a lot to learn there, though.
And it's interesting how it's not just about ideology.
But we will talk about that in the review.
Brom says, what is your opinion on 3D printed guns?
You can take my live, but you can never take my 3D printer.
Have you actually got one?
No.
You should get one.
We had one at university.
It was fun.
But then if we turn the office into a 3D gun manufacturing factory, then I think the government might actually have something to say about that.
Anyway, RKT says, I'm guessing I'm going to say that in, what is it, Jared's voice or whatever it is.
Smells like lies of convenience.
Have some fun for me.
Gotta sleep for a morning shift.
Crack on, lads.
Thanks very much, man.
I love the Australians watch at this time as well.
Yeah, yeah.
And honestly, man, we should do a segment on what happened in Australia because it was just awful.
It's just awful watching an English-speaking country turning into this kind of tyranny.
Well, that's the thing we're all doing.
It's just the Americans who are escaping it.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
Which is why we're such in support of the Americans.
Yeah.
What was that?
Stresden Gold says, I'm getting into fights with security guards who force me to wear a mask.
How much can I resist these people before it becomes impossible?
Feels so helpless.
That's British money, so you're in Britain.
I think it depends.
It depends on the store.
Yeah, it depends on what the situation is.
But just don't do anything ridiculous.
Just be sensible.
We'll have to figure something out.
I don't know.
We're going to have to write an article about what your rights are about masks.
Yeah, I'm just doing passive resistance.
Until I'm being essentially like, do this or get out, then I'm not doing anything.
All right.
Royal Ulster Constabulary.
Biden is what America will get when they reject their British heritage, the generation that funded the IRA, whose entire outlook is opposed to Anglo values.
Yep. Yep.
That's correct.
It's kind of sad that this...
You can't say that word now.
This poster on our Super Chats is more patriotic than Boris.
Yeah.
This is distinctly disappointing.
But right, let's carry on because we've still got a load to go through.
We'll get back to that one.
Yeah, we'll get back to it.
Okay, so I want to talk about, I'll try and make this a little bit short because of time, but the Labour Party have decided to come out and say that they don't want foreign criminals deported, seemingly under any circumstances, because, so what happens in the UK, if you get a charge of a year or more in prison, the government has the right to deport you.
And this was made law in 2007, the Labour Party voted for it.
So these charter flights go on all the time.
And what happens is the last minute, a bunch of lawyers will put in, oh, but what about this, this, this?
And you have to take them off to take the case.
And then people never actually end up leaving.
Only a small fraction end up leaving.
Right.
So it was a couple of days ago, there was a flight ready to go back to Jamaica with 50 people on board who all had criminal offenses that had more than a year in jail.
They're all Jamaican citizens.
And the people on there, some of them were for being nonces, some of them were murderers, some of them were violent criminals, all sorts of things.
But they don't give a breakdown because of confidentiality.
But all of these people are worthy of being deported.
Absolutely.
If you were going to deport someone, this is the kind of people you would deport.
Yeah.
And it's all things they've been convicted for based on their own behavior, based on evidence.
Obviously, there are victims.
They've got citizenship elsewhere.
Nothing about race, nothing about arbitrariness.
It seems to all be justified going into it.
Yep, completely liberal.
So this happened a couple of days ago, and then this is the results coming out today, that lawyers yet again put in a bunch of claims for almost everyone on the plane, and only 13 of the 50 guys who are going to get deported have been deported.
Right.
So I believe one of them is a nonce, one of them is a murderer, a couple of them are guilty of manslaughter, things like this.
But the rest of them just let back out, and they're all serious criminals as well.
So, just complete failure.
And a lot of people get angry with the Conservatives over this, because, you know, why are you not getting rid of these foreign criminals?
I mean, we spoke about the guys in Rochdale.
There were three guys who were convicted of being part of grooming gangs, raping girls, and yet we just haven't got rid of them because their legal cases are going back and forth.
And the victims keep bumping into them in ASDA and things like that, don't they?
Yeah, like you just keep meeting the guy who raped you.
And it's not just like a one-time thing.
You know, persistent rape over time where you're trafficked around to other gangs and other people.
So it's a horror story.
Absolute horror story.
Yeah, so this article from Sky News just gives a little bit more information.
So, of the people who were deported, three convicted of murder, another of manslaughter, while another has been sentenced for crimes like grooming, drug dealing, burglary, and robbery, according to the charities who are filing these legal claims to get them off.
The lawyers had also gone to court to prevent the parents from leaving because they've got kids in the UK. So because they've been here for so long, they've established families.
And the argument is that it has an effect on the children, therefore you have to keep them here.
So that's what they're claiming.
They're probably going to lose, but it's another attempt to make sure they don't leave.
Should have thought about that before you murdered someone.
Yeah.
I mean, you have kids.
Why are you out murdering people?
I don't understand.
But if you can get the mirror up.
So, all of these guys are Jamaicans, and they're saying that the argument for the kids is...
The problem is that they're bedwetting, they're banging their heads against walls, some are talking about suicide, therefore you have to keep these kids here and it's like...
Yeah, that's all unfortunate.
And I sympathise, but these guys did commit serious crimes and they are foreign nationals.
The right thing to do is to deport them.
Can't the kids go to Jamaica with their fathers?
I presume they'll have rights to Jamaican citizenship.
Well, they will, yeah.
What are we saying?
Jamaica's too much of a shithole?
Is that the argument?
They can't bear to go to Jamaica?
What's wrong with Jamaica?
That's the Labour Party's position.
It seems to be, doesn't it?
And ironically, in Parliament, they were arguing that if they get sent to Jamaica, it's a risk to their life.
And it's like...
What, just being there?
People live in Jamaica labour.
It's not that bad.
I mean, stop being racist.
So of the people who were taken off the plane and are being kept, the government has given a statement about this.
They're saying at least nine of them were guilty of murder and rape, and they did not board the planes after the legal claims came in.
So, from think of the children, can we not pivot to think of the victims?
We'll get into that.
Right, okay.
So, the argument is, well, they don't have enough time, and the government has given a statement saying, look, these individuals have every opportunity to raise these claims in the days and weeks leading up to the flight.
However, a significant number of the claims were not submitted until hours before the flight was due to leave, meaning murderers and rapists have been able to stay in the UK. So...
Thanks, leftist lawyers.
You've literally got rapists off the plane, so they're still able to stay on the streets of the UK. It's very progressive.
Yeah.
So we can get the next article up.
So yeah, information about that.
So one of the guys who has been able to stay, he's given a statement about why he thinks what's happening to him is unjust, because I want to give a fair argument.
So he gives a statement that he's lived here for 20 years, and what the Home Office is doing to us is like torture.
They are killing us.
My life is here.
My kids are here.
I can't bring myself to tell my kids that I'm being deported.
I'm not a murderer.
I'm not a rapist.
I made the mistake of selling drugs.
This individual, class A drugs.
So, my memory's certainly right, that's heroin, cocaine, and crack, things like that.
I don't really have any sympathy.
Like, why were you selling drugs in a foreign country?
I would never move to a foreign country to sell drugs.
And then when they say, okay, we're sending you back, I mean...
Oh, no.
I committed a crime in a foreign country and now I'm being sent home.
Like, you're a family man.
You've been here for 20 years.
I get what I deserve.
Well, that's the thing.
Like, you can say, oh, well, what about the kids?
It's like, yeah, I'm a father, you know, which is why I don't go around murdering people.
That's not the only reason, but, you know, it's certainly one of the stronger reasons.
I don't want to ruin my children's lives by doing something ridiculous.
You know, and you knew what you were doing.
You made these choices.
Now you've got to live with the consequences.
And if your children are going to be angry with anyone, it should be with you.
So this actually happened back in February as well.
The Guardian's talking about it, where same situation, 50 people on the flight, and ended up with only 17 of them leaving, this time 13.
So this has been a problem that's long ongoing.
And the left-leaning parts of this country seem to think it's great that we can just keep them here.
The government has said that they're going to come out and make it change the law, so that if you are going to file a dispute, it has to be within a reasonable time frame, not hours before the flight, because that's obviously just delay tactics.
Yeah.
So, I mentioned that the Labour Party is big on this, so if you can get the next link, this source talks about 60 people, so 60 MPs and peers, who signed a petition to say that this should not be going on.
Amnesty for all?
No!
No nonce amnesty!
Yeah, literal nonce amnesty!
Yeah, no, that was a meme, that was a joke, and no, there should be no nonce amnesty.
So, I don't think they're mentioned here, but if you go to the petition, you can get the names, and the names that are notable is Jeremy Corbyn, of course, thinks that there should be amnesty for these people, John MacDonald, Diane Abbott, Bell Ricardo Addy, Kate Usuma, I don't know how you say that one.
Sam Moore.
Yeah.
Claudia Webb and Dawn Butler.
So we can just summarise these people as the communists of the Labour Party.
The unironic far left of Corbyn's Labour Party that we're all given positions.
The communists don't want the murderers and the rapists to be sent out of the country.
Yes.
I mean, this is weird enough, but to be honest, the state of the Labour Party, or at least Corbyn's click of the Labour Party, I'm not that surprised.
What I was surprised by is the weird amount of celebrity endorsement these guys got.
Really?
So, if you can get the next one up.
Just loads of celebrities.
What is it, 50 came out?
82 signatories.
82, sorry.
Different black celebrities said that these guys should not be deported and we shouldn't be doing this.
What's interesting, of those six there, I just googled each of their names, only two of them are Jamaican.
The rest of them are Nigerian or Guyana and whatnot.
So it's a race-solidarity thing.
Yeah, it's just, they're black, I'm black, therefore they shouldn't be deported.
It's like, yeah, but they're a murderer.
I tell you what, man, if there are any sort of French or German murderers who get caught and then deported back to France or Germany, deport every single one.
Every single one.
Maybe deport a couple more, just to be sure.
You know, like, I have absolutely no racial solidarity on the basis that we're white.
What, just a couple of randos as well?
Yeah, just in case anyone who's just in the local vicinity, just grab them all and deport, just to be sure.
Like, we've got the pedo out, you know, like...
That's wild.
It's wild to me that, oh, he's black, therefore he did nothing wrong, even if he's a convicted murderer.
This reminds me of something, I'm going to keep simping for Douglas Murray, that he said about, what is it, like woke simping?
Where you endlessly talk about how woke you are, like Gary Lineker.
Like these people, these celebrities coming out and saying it.
What's funny is you've got people like Naomi Campbell there who were found to have blood diamonds given to her by the president of Liberia before he was indicted.
It's just like...
Jesus.
Very progressive.
Yeah.
Anyway, so this got sent into the parliament.
One of the Labour MPs decided to make this an urgent question, so the government had to respond to try and delay it some more so they could put in the appeals.
We've got a highlight reel of just the funniest parts of the debate.
If it's not Boris just reaching under the table, putting a big red button on it that says Deport, and just looking them dead in the eye and slamming it, it's not going to be good enough.
I'm not going to be happy.
By the way, if we could play the first video.
*laughs* *laughs*
*laughs* *laughs* *laughs* Based.
But yeah, this went on for like an hour, and I had to clip some of it, because I'll put a link in the clips, but it's really funny, because the Labour Party, even their own MPs beside them, who are less radical, are like, why are we doing this?
Do we really have to talk about this?
Is this what black solidarity is?
Defending pedos and murderers?
The Conservatives just had a field day.
There's a great speech by Philip Davies that didn't get to include, and another guy that was just like, this is the Labour Party?
Really?
Like, pedo amnesty?
What are you doing?
But yeah, just the Labour Party shooting themselves in the foot, or maybe their head, yet again.
Good old Philip Davies.
I just...
I have to include it, because, like...
That's wild.
What a hill to die on.
Yeah, I mean, that's what they're up to, man.
That's what...
You vote for them.
They go to Parliament, and that's what they're doing with your time and money.
The Conservatives are persecuting nonsense.
Are they black?
Yes, right, we have to leap to their defence.
Okay.
It's weird that the Labour Party can even utter the words, you know, oh, this is an ethical question...
Not really.
Nah, nah.
Only for you.
MilkMyManTits.
Nice name.
He's an Aussie.
What did you expect?
G'day again, chaps.
Greeting from down under yet again, mate.
Just sitting back, smashing some tinnies, eating snags, punching down darts.
Loving your podcast.
Come visit our prison island at Daft Palm.
I would love to, actually.
My wife has been harassing me about going to Australia.
But then, thankfully, we had the COVID lockdown, so I don't have to go on a 24-hour flight.
Just to visit a prison?
Yeah, to visit a prison.
The largest open-ended prison in the world.
So, yeah, I would say I would like to go to Australia.
Thank you so much for the donation, man.
Bubba Hotep says, Media, there has been no widespread fraud.
Me.
So there's been fraud, but has there been widespread investigation?
Media.
Why are you trying to destroy our democracy?
Yes, this is very dangerous to their democracy.
You have to understand, you're meant to be coming into Biden's cold embrace.
Stratos Radio Blue says, what if I used a Ferrari in a 100-meter foot race?
I gave the other racers a five-second head start so it's not cheating.
Stop telling me I'm wrong.
Well, what's the problem?
1776 involved shooting lots of law enforcement officers.
Republicans will never overcome their cognitive dissonance enough to actually start another revolution, unfortunately.
I don't think that's true.
I mean, you didn't have police in 1776.
You had militias.
The police force, as we understand it, was created in the 19th century by Robert Peel.
The law enforcement officials that were shooting were the British military.
Yeah, so it's not...
Don't be anachronistic, I think, is the advice.
But, I mean, I'm not saying the Republicans should start a revolution, but what they shouldn't do...
Is accept the results.
They should as, I can't remember the name of the senator, who's a black senator from Georgia.
He was just like, we're not accepting this.
Hold the line!
Hold the line!
I'm like, yeah.
I love the boomer enthusiasm.
Yeah, dude, I'm living for it.
I'm like, yeah, hold the line, goddammit, you know?
To hell with these people.
You can't just let them steal it in broad daylight, right in front of your face.
But Robert Jan says, Max Public House, Staten Island, look into it, Carl.
Please spread the word over there.
I don't know anything about it, but I'll see if we can.
Silver Shaker, funny about...
No, Shaker Silver.
Oh, Shaker Silver, sorry.
Funny about the Tea Party comparison because it's led to a rise...
Sorry.
It's a rise led to Trump in the first place.
If Biden wins, then I hope that a populist upswell continues.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, absolutely.
Like, Obama is definitely a causal link in the chain that led to Trump.
Returning to Biden is hardly going to break that chain.
He says, As a normal American, I can confirm the Georgia rally is resonating.
I feel the need to throw something into the harbour.
Perhaps Zuckerberg MAGA 1776.
DRT says, it seems racist has been yeeted off Twitter and Facebook.
Looks like Silicon Valley has silenced the Oracle in Phoenix.
Yes, yes.
Hopefully he puts a video up today explaining what's happened.
Rex says, I don't for one second believe Hugo's Austrian.
He doesn't even have a moustache.
Also get Owen Jones on just because why not?
Well, the reason we won't get Owen Jones on is because he won't come.
But I'd love to have Owen Jones on.
Nightmarish Vision says, Well, I don't want to say that because I don't know whether he has ever said anything about Antifa.
And I think there are people who are in the sort of...
The civil service of the thing that are not very, like, who are more committed to doing the job.
There is something funny to say about Georgia that resonates with that, though.
When they brought in the voting machines, so what was it, 2019?
They just said, okay, we'll have Dominion.
Yeah, the Democratic people in the state legislatures actually made statements about how unsecure they were and how they were open to fraud, and that's why we shouldn't use them.
And since, obviously, they zipped them out.
Yeah, in the same way that CNN had previously published various exposés.
There's one from like 14 years ago, where Lou Dobbs was at CNN before he went to Fox.
And he's saying, well, look at all these, you know, this just ties to Chavez.
It's, you know, very insecure.
It seems to be designed to actually overthrow elections and fix elections.
And that's just memory hold.
No one wants to talk about that.
Now that I'm strong, don't have to care.
Exactly.
Stratos again says, the Michigan hearing was great.
At best, it reveals to the populace the swamp's depth, at least.
Rep Hall gave great carpentry lessons.
I didn't get to watch it all, unfortunately, because, like, there are literally hours and hours and hours of content that we have to go through, and so, like, we can only do so much.
Unless, of course, you subscribe to lotuses.com, and then I can hire people to go through all of this and do all of this for me.
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Tom Bullivant says, if Biden was any more of a groomer, he'd have a manscaped sponsorship.
Palm Tree Production says, Florida is being called a model state.
What the fuck?
Earl of Longford says, although the Irish volunteer songs for the Union are better than the Confederates, I'm still willing to sail my potato boat to fight the Second Secession War.
You can go for this one.
He's not wrong, by the way.
They are better.
I'll stop simping for Hugo when the OnlyFans goes live.
Weird, man.
Dude, post a link for those chairs.
No, they're a trade secret now.
Yeah, they are.
Same with the table, man.
What do you think of Kanzuk?
Should the government push for it after we leave the EU? I think that there's always going to be a natural alliance between the English-speaking countries, apart from Australia, I guess, because I was going to say we all have shared values, but I'm not sure if the Australians do.
No, I'm joking.
I'm joking, Aussies.
I'm joking.
But yeah, no, I think that the shared values and history that the countries have will always put us essentially on the same side.
I mean, if Russia invaded Canada or China invaded Canada, it's not like we were like, well, not our problem.
I care a lot more about Canada than I do France or Germany.
Exactly, yeah.
It is de facto, even if it's not de jure.
The Earl of Longford, also fight me orange boy.
I'm not sure what that's no reference to.
I assume Trump.
Yeah.
Exo...
Oh, what is that?
Exo Valdiggis.
Thanks from Finland.
Our current government has been the biggest wasters of time and money in history.
Koof is the only thing that's helping keeping together.
Yeah, this is the government of...
The feminist government of Finland.
Childless genetic dead ends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what?
Go back 20 years and it would be unthinkable that you could go into politics without having a family.
Was it really?
Oh, totally.
Totally.
Did Margaret Thatcher have a family?
Yeah, of course.
She was married to...
What's her name?
Does she have kids?
Yeah.
Yes, she does.
She does have kids.
They are...
Yes.
Like, literally, you couldn't go into politics without having a family because you were appealing to families to vote for you.
And so you're like, look, I have children.
You know, you have children.
We both have a shared interest.
I've got cats.
You've got cats.
Exactly.
No, but that's exactly it.
We've both got a shared interest in the future.
You know, we want a good society for our kids.
But if you've got a bunch of...
And literally, the New Yorker published an issue where it's a picture of a millennial cat lady.
Like, she sat there, like, sipping a martini at her desk in a messy room.
It's like...
Yeah, I posted that on Twitter.
Yeah, who...
Girls unironically live like this.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Like, why are you being proud of being, like, these sort of genetic dead ends who no one loves?
No one cares about them.
Jeff Hagen sent us...
I assume that's the Statue of Liberty with some coffee or something?
I don't know.
It looks like a coffee.
It's kind of hard to tell what's going on.
A bird with a coffee or something.
Traveler, I will not go down under the ground because someone tells me that death is coming around.
I will not carry myself down to die.
When I go to my grave, my head will be high.
That's very nice.
It's a nice bit of poetry.
I recommend getting your son a Wii with Sonic and Black Knight.
It was a good introduction to basic Arthurian legend and chivalry when I was a kid.
I would do, but I'm actually not letting him have video games, because I'm mean that way.
I know you don't give him Wi-Fi, which I kind of get, but video games?
He's not having video games, he's not having any of that.
Until when?
What do you mean, until when?
Until he gets a house.
No, what about he is not having any of that?
Do you not understand?
When he's 50, he's going to be with a rod.
Yeah.
Okay.
If he wants anything from my will, he'll have to do it on condition that he never gets a console.
Already.
You'll thank me for it.
Loving my new morning routine with the Lotus Eaters.
Website looks great.
Have some money and keep up the good work.
Thank you very much.
We are working really, really hard.
Web push notification is like a subscription and will push a notification to a desktop browser and or phone whenever there is an update to the website.
We will forward it up and see if it's possible.
I've never actually experienced that in my life.
It does sound kind of cool as a feature.
Immigrants should be second-class citizens for a fixed period until they prove their worth, if not chucked back.
They are actually de facto, he is correct, in British law.
I'm thinking American law as well.
Like, you don't have the rights to be in the country.
You don't have the rights to X, Y, and Z. So, that is true.
And it's got to be true because of the way we have the welfare state.
I mean, this is like the libertarians always say.
If we didn't have the welfare state, you could actually potentially have open borders.
Because what's the incentive to come?
You actually have to come and work.
There's no...
And that would be the only incentive as well.
You're not going to get a free handout.
So if you are interested in freedom and building a business and constructing something, then yeah, sure, there's a land of opportunity.
But then you would come over with the right mindset.
You would come over going, well, I'm coming to be in.
There is nothing to be get.
There is only things to be made.
Exactly.
You know, you would actually be a useful addition to the society and people would be glad to have you.
Or you could be one of those people who comes over here and says, well, hang on, the government's put me and my five children in a house that I think is too small.
I deserve a bigger house.
Yeah.
Did we cover that on this?
No, but it's just something...
There was a lady who, ironically, Sky News tried to make a sympathetic piece for her, and I was just like, what?
Go back to wherever it was you came from, I guess, if you don't like it.
What do you want from me?
Why do I have to pay it?
This is one of the reasons I kind of hate the...
What do you call it?
Social liberalism?
Yeah.
Because they always argue, well, okay, the thinkers of liberalism in the 1700s and 1800s were arguing for the three movement of people.
I'm like, yeah, but it's a very different world back then.
They weren't even necessarily arguing for the free movement of people.
I can't think of one that was suggesting that a person should be able to just cross a country's border without any kind of...
I remember there is someone, I think it might be John Stuart Mill, in one of his arguments, where he's just saying, if we can have the free movement of people, it's good.
And I'm like, they're not the same.
They're not the same as goods.
But John's telling us to hurry up, so let's get on to the next one.
So...
This is just a...
not something that seems significant on the surface of it, but this was a clickbait article that I saw going around, and I found it really, really interesting.
I just want to talk about it.
As you can see, it's called People Who Grew Up in Conservative Households Sharing Their Glow-Up Pics After Moving Out.
So they've moved out.
These are young people, you know, so the pictures on...
the first picture they'll give you in these images...
Are of a normal sort of, you know, 16-year-old.
And then the picture of them being 19 once they've moved out into university and they've changed themselves.
And as you can see, she goes from...
If we can go down a little bit more, because you can see them side by side, right?
It's not exactly an improvement, is it?
That just looks like the feminist memes, where it's like before and after feminism.
It is exactly.
Exactly like the feminist memes of before and after.
And as if they're proud of it.
Now, the girl on the left looks perfectly normal, happy, healthy, looks like she grew up in a middle class, rural, or country, town.
Was happy, had friends, networks, you know, all this security.
But you can see, whoever's taking the photo, she recognizes the person she's being photographed by.
She's giving them a genuine smile.
In the second one, what's she doing?
You know, it's like posing for a TikTok video, but, like, is she trying to portray herself as edgy and mature?
Because that's not how it comes across.
It comes across like a child playing dress-up, whereas the other person looks like the mature one.
I don't want to read too much into one photo.
Well, it's not just one photo.
Let's go to the next one.
Right, so look at this, right?
This is...
Again, like...
What is...
Think back to when you were, like, 15 and in school.
This is her coming out as queer in the second photo?
Yep.
What does queer mean?
Gay.
Does it, though?
Well, something.
Why is it on the LGBTQ? Why is the G and the L not good enough, then?
Mm-mm.
You're a resident leftist expert.
Yeah, I guess, but you're right.
I really should look into the difference between gay and queer because it's not obvious.
Non-conforming.
Yeah, non-binary, all this sort of stuff, right?
But as you can see on the left, again, another just natural photo.
Think back to when you were 15 in school, right?
She would have been just sat on the desk and you'd be like, oh, she's pretty.
I would like to go on a date with her, right?
But then...
What's she done?
She's cut her hair short and now she's posing.
She's giving a sultry look or a smoking look.
But it's, again, it feels like there's some sort of deception there.
Before, she's at her graduation.
She recognizes her as taking a photo.
She's got a big, open, honest smile.
She looks healthy.
She looks happy.
But now she's trying to pretend to be something that she otherwise wasn't.
I mean, how is that an improvement?
How is that an improvement?
On the other one, she looks natural.
And normal, you know?
I actually know a bunch of girls that are still on my Facebook because, you know, I made friends with them in secondary school and whatnot.
Yeah.
Yeah, same thing.
Like, a lot of them I look with them now and I'm just like, what the?
How are you?
Exactly.
You look good on the left.
You look, well, a lot less good on the right, frankly.
But let's keep going down because there are better examples.
Look at this!
So, the guy's wearing makeup, obviously, as you can see in the other one.
Sorry, is that lipstick?
Yeah, lipstick, yeah.
And in the TikTok video, he's being coy like he's a girl.
Would probably have been more persuasive if he wasn't built like a brick shithouse.
Look at his arms.
Look at his shoulders.
And again, if you watch the video, this guy is huge, right?
But he's quite chad on the left.
He's not a model or something, but he looks like a handsome football-playing guy from school.
He doubtless had a girlfriend.
He does bear resemblance to the Chad Meep.
A little bit, yeah.
He's a little bit chubby because he's a normal guy.
But this is the kind of guy who should be out dating, should be out starting a family, getting a job, building a career.
But instead, he goes to university and now he's wearing makeup and pretending to be a girl.
Again, which one is more attractive?
Obviously, I'm not a woman, but if I'm a woman, am I looking for the guy on the right?
Is that what I'm looking for in a guy?
Maybe they are.
Maybe they are.
But it just looks to me like he's had something taken from him.
He's had his dignity taken away from him.
He doesn't look very good, in my opinion.
But he looks wholesome and happy and healthy in the other one.
So what is this?
This is like the evolution of these TikTokers' careers, where you can see them as normal people and then they turn into freaks.
Yeah, they're bragging that, look, I grew up as a conservative and now I'm like a leftist.
And this is my glow-up photo, but the thing is they look deranged.
Oh wait, so glow-up is like, you know, I've grown up and now I'm a...
Yeah, now I'm a progressive and look at me wearing lipstick and pretending to be a girl.
It's like, yeah, but you look like you've been robbed.
You look like you've lost something.
You look like on the left, the guy on the left had something that you no longer have, you know?
And so let's go down to the next one.
And so this, you see, look, you know, playing football and stuff and now he's pretending to be a girl.
Skip past this one because it's not as good as the one next time.
Right, this one.
That girl, right?
Quite, quite attractive girl next door.
If she was your neighbour when you were growing up and you were like 14 years old, you'd definitely have wanted to date her or spend time with her and stuff like this.
She's an attractive woman.
Assumedly, you would think that she would get married.
She's become a man?
Yes, she's become a man.
In the TikTok video, she lifts up her shirt and shows a double mastectomy.
So she's mutilated her body to become what?
A mediocre man.
Yeah.
Men are not like, oh wow, I wish I could be a man like this.
But she was a very attractive young woman.
If that was your girlfriend, if you saw a picture of your wife and that was her when you were growing up or something, you'd be like, yeah, she was attractive.
I did well there.
She looks like she's going to grow up to be a wholesome family person, but instead, no, now she's got a beard.
Now she's chopped off her breasts.
Like you said about the mediocre man, like I've had the, you know, Danculo talks about his adventures.
Like, it's quite funny, but the male-to-female transitions, I don't know, they seem to go a lot more successful than the female-to-male transitions.
That's because men are generally ugly.
It's easy to be a man because you don't have to be gracile.
You know, you can be quite clunky and you grow a beard.
No, no, but I mean, the men who try and become women, they actually manage to pull it off more, in my view.
The hands and the Adam's apple and the jaw.
They seem to make more of an effort.
I don't know what's going on there.
Yeah, sure.
But the point is, it looks like something has been taken from her.
It looks like a promising future, a family, people who will love them, children, have all been taken from her here.
This is her glowing up.
Yeah, this is her glowing up.
It's becoming like, again, does she look normal?
You know, which one looks, again, the happy, healthy sort of looking person with a healthy smile, having a photo taken by a family member, you know, so it's genuine, it's normal, it's good, and now lunatic who's mutilated her own body.
You know, it's like, what the hell's going on?
It's always a scarf as well.
Yeah, let's go for the next one.
The one down below this, because this is basically a nothing.
It's kind of weird.
Let's go for the Belle Delphine look.
No, down a bit.
Sorry, there was another one that I wanted to go for.
Yeah, this one.
This one, right?
This is the peak mediocre man.
Look at the girl on the left.
Very pretty.
Very pretty girl.
If you were in school, again, she would have been a girl that you would have had a crush on.
She looks like Hogg.
David Hogg.
Oh, yeah, she does.
Right?
Absolute...
So, if you're trying to become a man, you have totally failed.
This is not a man.
Like, no one is looking at that person and being like, well, I mean, I don't want to get in a tussle with that guy.
You know, women aren't looking at that going, oh, that's a provider.
Is that a man, actually, or is she just a butch lesbian?
Well, I don't know, but how is that an improvement?
How is it an improvement?
You know, she's a very attractive young woman who's become a very mediocre-looking person.
You know, so you have deliberately...
You've had a bunch of ideas.
Yeah, exactly.
You've had a bunch of ideas pumped into your head about how beauty is something that actually should be destroyed, how it's all a social construct and blah, blah, blah.
It's like, okay, yeah, sure, but these things have a purpose, and you seem to have lost something.
And the whole point of this is they're showing that when I was conservative, I looked like this, and now that I'm no longer conservative, I look like this.
Yeah.
Meaning that the old photos are meant to look bad.
Yeah, exactly.
But the old photos that look true and natural and honest, like, again, someone that she likes is taking a photo of her in class, so she's smiling, she's happy, you know.
Now, there's a kind of distinct aura of kind of insecurity.
They're all selfies.
No one's taking the photo of them.
They're taking their own photos alone in a room.
With the hair cut off and the breasts cut off or whatever.
But here, she looks healthy and natural.
This reminds me of a joke Twitter account.
I think it's called Women Posting Their L's Online.
And it's like an image of them with the husband and the kids or just having a great time or whatever.
And then them afterwards with the cats and lefts and everything.
And they're trying to play it off as if it's a great transition.
Yeah, exactly.
This was a great choice.
I'm not sure I believe that.
All of these are an L as far as I'm concerned.
And can we go down to the next one?
This one's the most striking.
Sorry, the one below this.
And the one below this.
Although that one...
Was it Antifa?
Yeah, it looks like one day she's going to be like, why did I let them persuade me to sleep with all of those guys?
She's got the jackboots.
But anyway, let's carry on going next.
There's one that's just really amazing.
Next one.
It's a pentagram.
This one.
Look at this.
Right, girl on the left.
Again, if you were in school, you'd be like, she's really hot.
You know, I've got a massive crush on her.
But look at her on the right.
The most mediocre of men.
Is this another transition or is this just a...
I think this is a transition.
It's hard to tell.
It's hard to tell.
I could be wrong.
But whatever set of ideas that have been put into this young person's head have robbed them of their beauty.
They've robbed them of their attractiveness.
Like, you can see before, on the left, she looks, you know, very attractive, as women go.
But shaved head, who are you appealing to?
And then you'll get a bunch of...
She's doing a skinhead group.
Exactly.
Like, what the hell are you doing to yourself?
Who persuaded you this was positive?
Look at what you've lost.
Again, posting your L online and being like, yeah, look at me glowing up.
You look hideous.
We should upload this clip to Twitter.
We'll just tag that account.
Got more material for you.
There's social power in women's attractiveness.
Women get attention.
They get influence by being attractive.
Everyone does, but it's especially important for women.
It's actually one of the kind of sad things about femininity versus masculinity is the fact that this is so...
Like, it's a very powerful thing, but it doesn't last that long.
Yeah.
And again, picture.
Spontaneous.
Happy.
You know, coquettish.
You know, having fun.
Doesn't conservatism look terrible?
Yeah, exactly.
What are you doing?
Oh, I look good.
I'm hanging out with my friends and I'm going to, like, weddings or, you know, graduations or whatever.
Now, I'm alone in my bathroom taking a selfie with my shaved head.
Like, you look ridiculous.
You look ridiculous.
Who's made this list?
Is this like a conservative website?
No, this is a website, a progressive clickbait website that's like, oh, look at these people who glow up after they move out.
And it's like, yeah, I think they made a serious mistake.
And some of them made worse mistakes than others.
Are there more of these?
No, I think that's the last one.
Don't do this to yourself.
You have something good going.
It's not good to destroy beauty.
It's not good.
Well, that was a different kind of segment.
Yeah.
But I mean it.
I mean it.
Like, these people are going to look back on the things that they did to themselves and the behaviors that they engaged in.
Because, I mean, you saw a bunch of the women.
Like, there are some of them, like, you know, taking their selfies with their legs spread and it's just, oh, God.
You know, I mean, I can imagine that in, like, 10 or 15 years' time, they're going to be like, I was lied to.
I was told that I could have everything and I was lied to.
I did all of this disgusting stuff and I can't take it back.
You know, you can't take any of the things you do back.
I've got to say, is this not kind of part of life, though?
Like, everyone does, like, stupid phases or stupid things.
Yeah, but not everyone chops off parts of their body.
Yep, that's a good point.
Not everyone gets various STDs from being the college bike, you know?
Like, I don't want to sound like some ultra-conservative, but having a bit of prudence...
I wasn't going to say that.
I was just saying you sound like a dad, to be honest.
Well, that's the thing.
No daughter of mine.
Well, yes, you know, I am a dad.
And, like, it just comes down to prudent decision-making.
Is it prudent for you to debase yourself...
You know, oh, well, look, I can.
Everything's a social construct.
Yeah, okay, but, like, they still have cause and effect.
You know, if you do things, there will be consequences, and there's a reason I'm arguing against you doing these things, because I, as your father, are concerned about your best interests.
It's not your best interest to do these things.
The most convincing clip, this is going to sound weird, but the most convincing clip that I've seen that made me realize how important sex and gender and all the rest of it is, compared to when the left is trying to say it's all social construct, therefore it means nothing.
Yeah.
It was actually a documentary by Louis Theroux, in which he's interviewing porn stars.
And he goes to one shoot, and it's some guy and some girl who are vaguely new to the industry.
And they interview us before they do the scene, and they're very nonchalant about it.
Oh, it's just sex.
It's not that interesting.
And then they do the scene, and then he interviews them after.
He's like, do you not feel like you had a bond there, that you had something?
And you can see that neither of them want to say it, but they both actually know that, yes, this was quite an intimate act that we just engaged in.
And you do feel like you have more of a bond with the person.
It's like, eh.
Okay, yeah, this isn't fake then, is it?
Yeah.
Like, if you can see on the actors' faces that, yeah, we know it.
Anyway, let's go to the Super Chats.
Yeah.
Woke simping sounds a lot like virtue signaling.
Yeah, it's essentially the same term.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thug Life Bear says bar statement was that there wasn't enough fraud yet.
Enough fraud yet discovered.
Which is better, a cat girl or a cat girl male?
Which is better, a cat girl or a cat girl male?
This sounds like internet degeneracy.
Yeah.
Off to gulag with you, I'm afraid.
Disavow.
Yeah, disavow.
Get your wholesome pictures out.
Before you were into cats, you know, when someone else is taking the photo and you're doing something spontaneously, you look around and smile, look at that photo and become that person.
Okay?
That should be your life.
Here is the evidence.com, yeah.
It's a great site for crowdsourcing evidence that this election was stolen.
Yes, it is.
I've been promoting on Parler, which you should follow me on.
Should Trump use the Insurrection Act and use the military in case they try and push Biden to do a proper election and investigate the fraud?
Right, so, yeah, I forgot to mention this, but I saw General Flynn, after his pardon, has been on the warpath on Parler.
And presumably Twitter and wherever else he is.
He shared a petition for Trump to suspend the Constitution and implement martial law.
I don't endorse that, but I think that it's important for people to know the kind of headspace that these people are in.
Wow, he's really angry.
I would have thought he would have retired and left, you know?
Yeah, he's really angry.
And the concern is, like, how caesarean is this all going to go?
And really, the only path I can see to any kind of reunification here without civil war is for the Democrats to say, okay, you have legitimate concerns about fraud.
We will join you in your calls for an investigation into the election and we'll see if there is any malfeasance.
But of course they can't do that because they're the ones doing the malfeasance.
So they may as well say, well yeah, put our head in the noose.
And that's not going to happen.
So they're going to have to pretend until the very end.
I don't think it's going to go well.
How come so many of our politicians are absolute chads?
The bloke earlier about deportation and the woman scorching BLM, and yet they're still...
How come we're losing?
This is the point I make to you.
When I watch these debates, there are so many good conservatives, like so many good conservative ministers and MPs who make such good speeches.
And yet, when it comes to the actual policy, it Well, they'll sit there and have to do the mandatory diversity training.
Exactly, right?
Like, none of those guys we showed you are the people who decided, no, I'm not going to do this.
And yet, they very clearly get it.
I mean, unless they're playing the long game and they're going to secretly record the ridiculousness...
If they do, send it across, tips at lotusseaters.com.
Seriously, if you record any diversity training you have to go through, any materials that you can send across, tips at lotusseaters.com would be lovely because we'll be able to publish them and you'll be able to see exactly what's being done in your name with your pounds.
But yeah, happy lion.
I'm just as confused as you.
Yeah.
I don't know how we keep losing.
But I think what it is, really, is that the assumption in the Enlightenment is that communism is the end state of humanity.
And that's...
Why they always seem to have the assumption that they're right.
Well, we want communism and you want freedom.
Well, this is ultimate freedom, so you must eventually want infinite resources for everyone and for you to own nothing and be happy.
I'm looking forward to the video essay on that.
Yeah, I know.
I should do one.
Greetings from the Real North.
Do you think Galloway's Alliance for Unity has enough momentum to put a dent in the SNP next year?
Hashtag the ginger pill.
I don't know.
I have no idea whatsoever why people in Scotland are voting for Sturgeon.
I support George Galloway trying to take him down, though.
I'd love the meeting.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I know that there are a lot of people who were angry at me for saying, I actually quite like George Galloway.
Because in previous eras, he was a lot like Corbyn, siding with every enemy of Britain.
And he has been.
But I think that he has changed somewhat, slightly, because he's suddenly been like, hang on, I am actually surrounded by a bunch of traitors here.
Like, people hate Britain.
And that's not on.
So, like, I don't know.
Maybe I'm misreading him.
But, I mean, good luck to him.
And at the end of the day, I like hearing him talk.
He's a good talker.
Mark Thatcher, her son, Margaret Thatcher's son, founded a coup in Africa.
Founded a coup in Africa, yeah.
That's a Count Dankler episode.
All the mad lads.
Yep.
But yeah, I told you she had kids.
No, he gets that already.
I have to, like, you know, put chocolates and stuff in strange places, and so he's got to learn problem solving in order to steal food.
Like Spartan Boy.
You're just raising your kid like a Spartan.
Just to see what happens.
No, it's just that he's greedy.
How old is he now?
Nearly six.
So you'll be sending him out to fight the wolves soon?
Yeah, actually.
Just asking, what do you think the USA and the UK will be like in a few years if Sleepy Joe eventually gets elected?
Not good.
I don't think there'll be that much.
Well, there'll be some silly change, but like you said, it's business as normal.
Yeah, but what it'll be is the managed decline.
Yeah.
The outsourcing of our industries, the constant degradation of the intellect of our people through their education system, the lies and propaganda that are just going to be consistently broadcast across the media.
There will be increased censorship because there won't even be the threat of Donald Trump going after 230 in the meantime.
So we will all be put in just the...
Again, just on the downward slope that we were on before.
And Trump at least represents the upward slope.
And he, you know, pushing us up it.
Like, that's...
I just can't stand the idea of a return to the previous neoliberal order.
So, university is a 20th century holdover.
I got out unscathed.
My kids aren't going, period.
I mean, the obsession with university is a 20th century holdover.
Making university universal is the thing that's the great lie of the 20th century and Tony Blair, that everyone needs to go to university to be respectable and intelligent.
It's like, no, they don't.
Well, the entire economy is going to be based, at least in the West, on university-educated jobs.
Yeah.
I'm not sure you could run a society that way, but there's a lot of things wrong with universities.
Yeah.
I blame Obama.
I mean, he didn't do enough to hold back the far left, so if that's where you're getting at.
Yeah, he kind of wetnessed them into mainstream American politics.
Well, he came out and said this, I think it was yesterday.
Yes, he did.
He was saying, what was it, defund the police is a ridiculous phrase.
And he also came out against the Circular Firing Squad a few months back.
Yeah.
Cancel culture is a bad idea?
Yeah, yeah.
Obama's looking pretty based, actually.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
You say he's looking based, but he did set the stage for all of this stuff.
And it's like, well, this is what you did.
You know, it's just like Tony Blair coming out and going, well, actually, you know, all this immigration might have been a bad idea.
Maybe Islam does have a few questionable elements, Tony.
Could you not have said this 10 years ago?
Why did you do it then, Tony?
You know?
Labour, not only the party for premier antisemitism, but also for defending foreign nonces as well.
A factual statement.
Yes.
That's literally what they do.
These people are the beautiful ones from the mouse utopia.
They are the behavioural sink.
Yes.
Don't understand that.
No, no, that's absolutely right.
So it was Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment where he got a finite space, filled it with resources so the mice never actually had to struggle for anything, I can't remember how many generations it was, but after a few generations, essentially, the thing had populated itself, and there was no more space left, and so the mice changed.
Their behavior completely changed.
They failed to be able to raise new generations of mice.
They failed to even be interested in breeding.
And the ones that didn't go nuts and start attacking each other and killing each other turned into what he called the beautiful ones, which were just like, you know, fat, healthy little mice who just groomed themselves all day.
That's all they did.
They had no interaction with any other mouse.
They just sat on their own eating and grooming.
They didn't have sex.
They didn't do anything.
And that's what these millennials are turning into, where they're preening themselves for Instagram and all the selfies and stuff like that.
You know, they're perfectly healthy.
They spend all their time on their looks, but they never really interact with another human.
And that's why I put the emphasis on, look at the scenario that they're before photo is.
They're with lots of people.
They're with people they like.
It's unguarded moments.
Or explicitly cultivated, alone.
You put all your makeup on.
You're posing with a flag.
You're on your own.
And they are becoming the beautiful ones from the mouse experiment.
Tristan says, Labour, not only the party for Premier.
You've said it twice, you might want to refund yourself one of them.
Matthew says, It only took Bruce Jenner six months as Caitlyn to be named Woman of the Year.
Men just make better women.
That's not transphobic, is it?
It's a base statement.
That's not transphobic.
I think that from a progressive point of view, you could argue that a man could transition to become a woman and become a very successful woman.
Trans women are women, after all, you bigots.
Please, YouTube moderator, no delete.
As a gay man, I feel troubled realising I can't have kids.
Why would any trender do this?
Even though try to be more feminine, I can't imagine doing it.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.
Obviously, not every single person has to have kids and things like this.
And I'm not saying you can't be happy having not had kids, obviously.
Yeah.
But for most people, having a family is a reliable path to happiness and security and peace of mind.
And being part of a loving environment.
It's a guarantee for most people.
And most people probably need to do the thing that's most easy for them to achieve.
So, a bad tattoo is part of growing up.
A double mastectomy is life-running.
This was a very depressing and sag segment.
Mate, I'm glad you understood.
I'm really glad you understood.
Because, like, it's funny on the surface, but you think about it, it's like, Jesus!
You know, this attractive girl next door who should have got married to a childhood sweetheart, you know, gone to college, got a degree, you know, get a job and stuff, but then settled down, had a family, bought the four-bedroom house, had 2.5 kids, you know, then retired, you know, 55, 60, whatever it is, travelled the world.
There's a lovely life plan there that is actually quite rewarding.
But she's not going to get that now.
But she does have a beard.
Someone meme Carl up with memory TV captions.
We do that in the office for fun, actually.
Yeah, give you a taste of my shoe.
We're still on track for Starship Troopers future service guarantee citizenship.
Carl, can you upload your Politics of Starship Troopers video in the new site so I don't have to spoof my location to get around the BBC's block?
You know what?
We can do that.
Yeah, it's actually copyright protected because you're giving a review, therefore you're allowed to use the footage and all that.
Yeah, and YouTube's copyright system won't be using it because we'll be hosting it ourselves.
Yeah, alright.
Was it men going their own way?
Getting popular because of those ugly thoughts?
Well, there's no other option, really.
I am sympathetic to the plight of the sort of MGTOW and men's rights sphere.
I'm very sympathetic to it because, I mean, the deck is stacked against you.
Do you not think the MGTOW, because I know you're sort of like the cat women, need to get out there.
Do you not have a similar thing with the MGTOW? No, not really.
It seemed to me that a lot of the MGTOWs wanted a traditional life, but they feel that it's been denied from them.
And that the power in the relationship has been placed legally so firmly in the hands of the woman that the man is essentially at her mercy and these guys don't want to be at someone else's mercy.
It's not fair.
And it isn't fair.
They're not being treated as if they're bringing anything to the relationship.
They're being treated as if they're there to take money from and to take labour from.
And it's like, that's not fair.
I totally understand why they would opt out.
The men's rights movement, the conferences you've gone to and whatnot, One of the things I noticed is, like, it's disproportionately older men who have just been, you know...
Yeah, yeah.
The leftists would be, oh, this is the insult movement.
No, no, no, no.
This is the ex-husband movement.
This is the Al Bundy movement, you know, where they feel like they've been on the raw end of it.
What do we leave off?
Oh, Sargon.
Have some compassion.
These glow-up folk number less than COVID deaths.
Genetic dead end.
Nothing to see here.
Comedy gold photos, by the way.
Would love to live in Ian Banks' culture, but don't think someone as disagreeable as me will make it through the killing fields.
It's Ian Banks.
I don't know.
MuteStream says, I might be a creep, but you're all doing a fine job and I hope you're all the best.
Thank you so much.
That's the simp.
Swedishstan is locking down more.
You are needed.
Take care and thanks.
I didn't know that Sweden was locking down.
That's interesting.
Behorned Horse says, was forced into Islam.
I've sent an email.
Right, okay.
That's going to be a fun read, but yeah, we'll read that.
Freedom as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Royal Ulster Constabulary.
Cull before and after conservatism is a true go-up.
Well, honestly, again, I don't even think of it as necessarily as conservatism.
I've just been following the sort of Aristotelian path.
I keep promoting, you know, Aristotle's virtue ethics.
And I think that there's a real improvement to how I was in, like, 2014 and prior eras of my life.
I don't have the attractive photos when I was in school.
I was the fat kid, you know.
So I've got the attractive photos now.
Thank you.
And Josh Simps, I'll see you outside.
LAUGHTER But that's the point, you know.
I just don't have any, so there's no glow-up.
It's just constant...
Your girlfriend's a simp.
Yeah, but your wife's a simp for you.
No, not really.
Anyway, let's go, because we are running out of time.
Sorry, we are running out of time.
So yeah, anyway, thank you everyone for joining us.
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