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Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Friday the 27th of November 2020.
I'm Carl, and today I'm joined by Callum, and we are going to be talking about the fallout from Sidney Powell's Kraken, Lawrence Fox vs.
the Pogues, and the inevitable UK Freedom Licence, which seems like a bit of a contradiction in terms, doesn't it?
A bit of an oxymoron.
Yeah, how are you doing anyway?
You alright?
Yeah, I'm not bad.
Good.
Looking forward to the Freedom Licence.
I'm looking forward to getting my license.
The government licensed me to be free.
It's tragic.
But anyway, I hope you're all having a good Friday, by the way.
Looking forward to the weekend.
So, Sidney Powell, yesterday, the Kraken, came out unleashed, as it were.
A giant lawsuit against Michigan and Georgia.
Fantastic.
We went through it.
Seems that there's a huge amount there.
We're going to go through some more details today because there's a lot going on.
But let's talk about the reaction from the chattering classes, the Twitterati, the usual kinds about what's happened here.
I mean, the first thing really that really annoyed me was the fact that Sidney Powell posted this on Twitter and Twitter marked it as harmful on their website.
So they've got, you know, one of the things that comes up saying, oh, are you sure you want to click on this?
This could be dangerous.
And it's like, really?
To your democracy?
What are we saying here?
But that really was the very bare minimum because following this there has been a systematic campaign of degradation and humiliation of this lady throughout the media.
She is bringing very credible charges by incredibly credentialed people about subjects in which they are experts that has a profound impact on the future of the Republic and they are just busy trying to humiliate the lady who's presenting this information.
I think this is a complete disgrace.
So, the first one is just the Newsweek one, which is just insufferable.
Like, this is what they focus on, right?
The ridicule by legal experts over typos.
This is a consistent theme, because...
And you'll see as we go through, the complaints are, well, there are some typos in it.
It's like, yep, they've obviously had to put this together very, very swiftly because they're on a deadline.
And they're argumentally, well, they should have spell-checked it.
Yes, they should have spell-checked it.
I agree.
Not the biggest issue in the world, and understandable given the compressed time frame they're working within.
But for the fact that this is the main thing that they focus on, and again, an attempt to humiliate her...
In the eyes of her peers and the eyes of the public, is disgraceful.
It's the same thing they did to Giuliani, and they are just trying to delegitimize the idea of thinking about this topic, even though this topic is incredibly important.
But anyway, as Newsweek say, lawsuits filed by Donald Trump's former lawyer, Sidney Powell, have been mocked for containing a slew of typos and mistakes, as well as lacking any meaningful evidence of voter fraud.
They keep repeating it, it's just not true.
Powell released two documents which have been eagerly awaited by supporters of the President, as well as conspiracy theorists and QAnon followers.
Well, okay, but sure.
I mean, who else?
Why single out those groups?
Julian Assange supporters, maybe conservatives, maybe Republicans, maybe Democrats, the 30% of Democrats who think the election's been stolen.
Why not include them on that list, Newsweek?
It's really weird.
It's like you just want to make the kind of smell of the thing as, oh, weird conspiracy, don't worry about that, as there's nothing here.
They say, the 104-page suit detailing allegations of fraud in Georgia and the 75-page document focusing on Michigan both contain a series of typos, including spelling district incorrectly twice in the Georgia suit's opening line.
Yeah, okay, I agree.
Silly mistakes that should have been proofread.
But what was in it?
Do we not deserve to know what was being said?
And Giuliani said this, the media is keeping this from people, and this is a method by which they can acknowledge that it exists, but make sure that the public knows nothing about what's in it.
In the Michigan lawsuit, the court name is also misspelled in the top line to read Eastern District without the second I of Michigan.
Oh, oh, call her English teacher.
We'll mark it down.
Oh, I'm sorry, Sydney, you got a 6 out of 10 for this?
That's not relevant.
The document misspells the name of William Briggs, one of Powell's key expert witnesses, incorrectly referring him to William Higgs.
Oh, dear.
I mean, they must have hundreds and hundreds of people they didn't know about shortly before the election who have come forward and they got a guy's name wrong.
Oh, my goodness.
It's almost like they're under a huge amount of pressure in a very small amount of time.
The Michigan document contains a number of pages where entire sentences do not have any spaces between the words.
That's wrong.
What that is, is a formatting error when you copy it from the PDF into a text document.
And I know this because I did this myself for the bit that we're going to go through in a minute.
For some reason, the PDF formatting just doesn't come across properly, and so sentences can have zero spaces in, even though in the PDF they have spaces in.
But, again, let's assume that this was just completely true and she'd mess this up.
So what?
So what are the allegations?
Bradley P. Moss, a prominent lawyer who covers national security, said, rarely does a lawyer need to make their lawsuit 100 pages long.
Maybe if you're literally taking down a multinational corporation with 25 separate counts...
Well, they kind of are.
She's trying to take down, what, the entire Democratic Party?
And a multinational corporate, in fact, two multinational corporations, and the various sort of local organisations of the Democratic Party that are, I don't know whether they're technically separate or not, but, I mean, there's a lot here, and complaining, well, there's just, it's too, there's too much evidence!
It's too long!
I'm not reading that!
This is Bradley P. Moss's position, and I'm not even joking, but I read the whole thing on a car drive to work.
Yeah, but Bradley P. Moss, it's too long.
Summarise it for him, right?
But the thing is, this Bradley P. Moss, I had to look into him.
And before this was released, on the 11th of November, he had co-authored an article called No Self-Respecting Lawyer Should Touch Trump's Election Fraud Claims.
So before he even knew what was in Sidney Powell's Kraken, he had already said, well, we shouldn't touch it anyway.
And it's just like, okay, well, why are we...
Oh, we'll just go to the guy who's already said, I'm not even going to look.
Like, why?
He's not saying any of it's wrong.
He's saying, I didn't even read it.
And he's saying, oh, well, look, you know, you don't forget to run a spell check.
It's like, okay, I guess they did.
What do you want?
You know, are you going to read it?
Are you going to check it out?
No.
He's going to say, I'm not going to touch it.
Like, if he can't see the evidence, there is no evidence.
Yes.
And then someone's like, oh, come on, you've got to do it.
He's like, yeah, but there's a spell wrong.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Don't need to hear it.
Don't need to hear it.
Isn't it literally there's a meme where, you know, I would refute your point, but there's a spell check.
Yes, that's exactly the meme that is being played out here.
Sorry, I'd look at the evidence, but look at all those spelling mistakes.
100 pages long?
I'm not reading.
That.
So, essentially, it boils down to The Independent, if we can get the next one.
Just out recalling her a conspiracy theorist now.
Conspiracy theorist Trump lawyer Sidney Powell sues in Georgia and Michigan with error-filled Kraken suits.
Okay.
I mean, technically it's not wrong.
She is alleging a conspiracy.
No, no.
Yeah, exactly.
Technically, it's not wrong.
But it is also a way of trying to discredit her and humiliate her in the public square, despite the fact that they're not, like, addressing any of it.
Like, her complaints, which allege election fraud, are conspicuously riddled with misspelled words, garbled sentences, and formatting issues.
Okay.
So what were the allegations, Independent?
And then at the end of it, they bring on the person who's being accused to just deny it.
And that's the end of the article.
And this is not unique or rare or anything like that.
These were just the top examples I pulled on Google.
I can see them mentioning the 96,000 ballots must be disregarded.
There's just no explanation why.
Like, those were the ones that were requested but not returned, and then they were just counted.
Yep.
Doesn't matter.
You're not going to know that if you read the mainstream media.
Nope.
No information.
700,000 unaccounted for ballots turning up, which is more than the number of ballots that were sent out.
Not even worth mentioning.
1.8 million sent out, 2.5 million returned.
Just a conspiracy, bro.
No one's got anything to say about this.
Just not a word.
It's just so weird.
But it's embarrassing.
And in fact, it's terrible.
And a couple of days ago, this wasn't in response to Sidney Powell, but this is in response to the general atmosphere of what's going on.
Andrew Cuomo, one of the last people I would have expected to have said anything reasonable or rational, especially given how he has acted since the COVID thing.
I mean, the other day he was saying that sheriffs who refuse to tyrannize the people in their districts are tyrants.
For allowing them to operate with COVID existing in the world.
And it's like, okay, that's weird.
And it seems that you've arrived at exactly the backwards position that I would have held.
But anyway, Cuomo just turned on the reporters the other day saying, look, the way that you are acting is just unacceptable.
And I completely agree with what he says here.
There is a nastier tone now with the press, not just in New York, but all across the nation.
There's a nastiness and disrespect that never existed before.
He said this in an interview with a public radio station based in Albany.
If anyone had used the tone that they use with me in some of these press conferences with my old man, you'd be lucky if he didn't come around and deck you.
Based Andrew Cuomo.
The way that they question President Trump in some of these press conferences, I've never heard a tone used with a president.
There's supposed to be a decorum.
You cannot like the person or disrespect that person, but there's still an institution that each person represents.
There are reporters who are just unprofessional.
They don't know the facts and ask really biased questions.
They come in with a question to fit what their editor wants for that night.
There are reporters who ask questions which are unintelligent.
And I mean, how is he wrong?
It's like the way that Sidney Powell is being treated.
Now, in the defense of a few places like The Hill, places I think are actually more connected to what's going on in the United States.
So, you know, sort of insider, sort of The Hill, Politico, things like that.
They actually haven't been on a crusade to humiliate Sidney Powell, or at least not to the extent that the other ones have.
I've seen a few of the articles, and they're a lot more neutral than before.
Obviously, they've looked at this and gone, Christ, we'd better just do our jobs.
But they don't really report any of this concrete information.
Some of the concrete information we're going to go through now.
One of the depositions, I think they're called, that was presented by Sidney Powell was testimony from a Dr.
Navid Keshavarez-Nia.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
Because this chap begins his statement by saying, I'm 59 years old and have been a resident of Temecula, California for one year.
Previously, I resided in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area for nearly 40 years.
I have personal knowledge of the contents of this declaration and I could testify to its truth.
in paragraph two.
I have a bachelor's degree in electrical and computer engineering, a master's degree in electronics and computer engineering from George Mason University, a PhD degree in management of engineering and technology from Cal Southern University, and a doctoral degree in education from George Washington University.
I have advanced training from the Defense Intelligence Agency, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, the DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis, and Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
That is an amazing resume.
Just a set of qualifications, just on its own, as well as where he has been trained and worked.
I am employed by a large defence contractor as a chief cyber security engineer and a subject matter expert in cyber security.
During my career, I have conducted security assessment, data analysis, security counterintelligence, and forensics investigations on hundreds of systems.
My experience spans 35 years performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber attack pattern analysis, and security counterintelligence linked to FIS operators, including China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia.
I've worked as a consultant and subject matter expert, supporting the Department of Defense, FBI, and U.S. intelligence community agencies such as the DIA, CIA, NSA, NGA, and the DHS and INA, supporting counterintelligence, including supporting law enforcement investigations.
Is there anyone on Earth that is better qualified to talk about whether Dominion have had a problem with their voting machines than this guy?
Probably not.
I was half expecting you to say, and I've also got 270 confirmed kills and blah blah.
Right?
It sounds absurd, almost.
The level of education and experience this man has.
So if anyone is a credible expert on what's happened during this election, it looks like this guy might know something about what he's talking about.
The guy probably knows how to build the voting machines, hack them, and then save them from hacking.
Totally.
And then proving that they've been hacked.
Well, let's go into that.
In paragraph six, he says, I've performed forensic analysis of electronic voting systems, including the DVS, which is Dominion's Democracy Suite, ES&S acquired by Dominion, Sintel SOE software, and the Smartmatic systems used in hundreds of precincts in key battleground states.
He has analyzed the direct machines that we're talking about.
It's not like he's just got abstract knowledge of just, well, I know how cyber hacking and vote fraud works.
No, he's seen these machines used by these companies and performed forensic analysis on them.
So he's got direct knowledge.
He has amazing credentials.
He works with all the U.S. agencies.
And he didn't commit suicide after giving this statement.
Yes.
He says, These events...
He gives a source as well, but obviously it's a...
DVS, Democracy Suite, EMS manual version, blah, blah, blah.
Very technical document.
Yeah, technical document.
These events can take place through the internet and without leaving a trace.
And this coincides with the Venezuelan security guard that was apparently present in the control room in Caracas, where the Smartmatic software, he said, could do the same thing, and he watched people doing it.
So corroborated from multiple sources.
Again, people who seem to have direct knowledge and credibility in this regard.
Despite Dominion's constant denial about the flaws of its systems, the company's image-cast precinct optical scanner system was totally hacked in August 2019.
This occurred during the largest and most notable hacker convention called DEFCON Voting Hacking Village in Nevada.
Many of the specific vulnerabilities reported over a decade earlier, in the California and Ohio studies for example, are still present in these systems today.
But Sidney Powell is a conspiracy theorist according to The Independent.
So I'm just thinking there.
So he worked for the CIA, NSA, DS... Yeah, all of the alphabet agencies.
I remember in her lawsuit for Georgia, she mentions the fact that the US intelligence agencies do know how to hack these systems, because the purpose of that is so you can do it in foreign countries, because let's not forget the Americans also.
It's called the DEFCON Voting Machine Hacking Village.
Exactly.
And her argument is if we can do it, our enemies can probably do it as well at this point.
No question.
And the fact also he mentioned they were connected to the internet, or at least you can hack them via the internet.
And they were connected to the internet.
That's the thing she mentions.
It's not that the machines themselves, I believe in Georgia, were, but they were then wired in computers that were connected to the internet.
Yeah.
It was like, well, the whole system's compromised then.
Yeah, exactly.
Not saying it's proof that they were hacked, but the opportunity is definitely there, and this is the guy who would know.
I wouldn't put any money on it, you know, but we're not even finished as to the full extent of his evidence.
Because in paragraph 15 he says: "I have conducted detailed analysis of the New York Times data sets and have discovered significant anomalies that are caused by fraudulent manipulation of the results.
In my expert judgment, the evidence is widespread and throughout all battleground states that I have studied.
I conclude the following: "The vote count distribution in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Nevada and Georgia are not based on normal system operation.
Instead, they are caused by fraudulent electronic manipulation of the targeted voting machines.
The data variance favouring Vice President Biden continues to accelerate after 4.30am EST on November 4th, 2020 and continues until it momentums through November 9th.
This abnormality in variance is evident by the unusually steep slope for Vice President Biden in all battleground states on the 4th of November 2020.
A sudden rise in slope is not normal and demonstrates data manipulation by artificial means.
For example, in Philadelphia, Trump's lead of more than 700,000 count advantage was reduced to less than 300,000 in a few short hours, which does not occur in the real world without an external influence.
I conclude that manually feeding more than 400,000 mostly absentee ballots cannot be accomplished in such a short timeframe, i.e.
two to three hours, without illegal vote count alteration.
In another case for Edison County, Michigan, Vice President Biden received more than 100% of the votes at 5.59pm EST on November 4th, and again he received 99.61% of the votes at 2.23pm EST on November 5th.
These distributions are cause for concern and indicate fraud.
Well that's only if we believe that the elections in North Korea are fraudulent, because they're the same goddamn numbers.
These are ridiculous.
99%, I think it was.
Yeah, 99.61%.
Yeah, so he's actually more popular than Kim Jong-un.
He's just a charismatic guy.
I don't know what to tell you.
It was a gripping campaign, I won't lie.
And so, in paragraph 16, he gives us his conclusion.
I conclude that a combination of lost cryptographic keys...
I mean, there's a lot I haven't included here, but he's talking about things that he otherwise substantiates.
There was 30 USB sticks and a laptop that was stolen from Philadelphia.
But he says, I conclude that a combination of lost cryptographic key contained on stolen USB memory cards, serious exploitable system and software vulnerabilities, an operating system backdoor in DVS, Skittle and SOE software, and Smartmatic created the perfect environment to commit widespread fraud in all states where and Smartmatic created the perfect environment to commit widespread fraud in all states where My analysis of the 2020 election from the New York Times data shows statistical anomalies across these battleground state votes.
Who are these insufferable journalists to turn around and say that this guy's expertise and testimony and analysis are not evidence, are not worthy of consideration?
A man with decades of training and decades of work.
And intimate information and experience with these exact systems.
Who has hacked them himself previously.
Who has studied the way that voting tabulation comes in because his career is to monitor this election software.
Who else would we speak to with better credentials?
I just can't get over it.
And so what I think is happening...
It's actually, obviously, not that anyone in the media appears to care about truth or the evidence or the integrity of the system.
To overlook things like this is a dereliction of duty.
To keep this...
I mean, just that from the public is massive.
And I think that we've arrived in a place that's actually not very new.
I really think that what this reminds me of...
We're looking at the fall of Athens here.
I love my ancient Greek references, but we're being put in a position where there's a class of people whose direct interests are not aligned with the interests of the state or the people over which the state is operating.
It's not about helping I'm just going to read a very short quote from Demosthenes.
So this little speech is about 2,300 years old, but tell me if this doesn't sound like exactly what's happening now.
To quote Demosthenes...
If you examine the matter aright, you will find that the chief responsibility rests with those who aim to win your favour, not to propose what is best.
Some of them, men of Athens, so long as they can maintain the conditions which bring them reputation and influence, take no thought for the future, and therefore think that you should also take none, while others, by accusing and slandering those who are actively at work, are simply trying to make the city spend its energies in punishing are simply trying to make the city spend its energies in punishing the members of its own body, and so leave Philip, which is Philip of Macedon, free to say and do what
Such political methods as these, familiar to you as they are, are the real causes of the evil.
I beg you, men of Athens, if I tell you certain truths outspokenly to let no resentment on your part fall upon me on this account, consider the matter in this light.
In every other sphere of life, you believe that the right to free speech ought to be so universally shared by all who are in the city that you have extended it to both foreigners and to slaves.
And one may see many a servant in Athens speaking his mind with greater liberty than is granted to citizens in many other states.
But from the political sphere, you have banished it utterly.
The result is that in your meetings, you give yourselves airs and enjoy their flattery, listening to nothing but what is meant to please you.
While in the world of facts and events, you are in the last extremity of peril.
Because if this was my voting system, I mean, it might be this country's voting system.
But if this was my democracy, my republic, and I'm looking at these vulnerabilities, how literally anyone from outside of the country can manipulate the data, manipulate the votes without even being in the country.
let alone all of the other evidence that suggests that the Democrats in the country did actually cheat, I would be looking at this and thinking, Christ, we are in the last extremity of peril.
This is just how the end of our democracy goes on, And yet, they're scoffing.
It's just scoffing.
But our influence, our fame, our glory, our ability to influence you, to agree with us, that's what they care about.
This is not in anyone's interest to have such a flimsy and weak democratic system in place.
It's insane.
I mean, this really reminds me of an article Ben Shapiro was reading.
It was just journalists writing about how excited they are that the normal's coming back.
And the normal, they go on and on about stuff.
But the one that made me most sick was the White House Correspondents Dinner.
And how they were like, we're going to have the White House Correspondents Dinner back so we can be jovial with the White House again.
Yep.
You sicken me, you aristocrats.
You have no interest in whether or not what's true, what's actual journalism.
They're just interested in getting back their fame and their influence.
They're just interested, as Demosyne said, to maintain the conditions which bring them reputation and influence.
Exactly the same.
It's exactly the same.
And it's the end of an empire as well.
Because what's happening at the time is that the Athenians have been the premier city in Greece for about 50 years or so.
But Philip of Macedon, outside of their influence, has been essentially raising an army of peasants and training them and drilling them into a pipe phalanx.
And then he starts conquering cities.
But all the while, he's telling the Athenians, I'm not attacking you.
I'm not at war with you.
What are you doing?
Don't be silly.
And yet, Demosthenes is like, yeah, but he's taken this city here.
This is our city.
How is he taking parts of our empire?
And the aristocrats in Athens are just like, don't be silly.
How dare you?
How dare you?
How dare you claim that things aren't going how we want them to go?
It's mad.
And it's this total disconnect.
And obviously, Athens ends up losing a war to Philip, and ends up losing Athens and Thebes' ally.
They end up losing a war to Philip.
And Alexander afterwards, and Thebes just gets totally waxed, and Athens is completely humbled.
And it's like, okay, well, there we go.
We know what the consequences of ignoring reality are, especially when you have foreign actors who are just not friends of yours.
You know, like China.
China is going to constantly say every day, well, we're not at war with the US, and yet you're moving pieces against American interests all over the chessboard.
I really think we're in the same situation here.
I swear there's a leaked document that came from China, the Communist Party, talking about exactly this.
I think it was called the 10 or 50 year strategy or something.
And it was laying out, I think it was written in the 70s, and it was, well basically we can rise up against the United States, but if we go on for a direct conflict within 50 odd years or whatever it was, therefore we would lose.
So what we need to do is just pretend that we're not expanding, and then just expand in these little areas little by little, and eventually it'll be too late for them to do anything.
Yeah.
But the whole time you just maintain the narrative.
We're not over war.
We're not over war.
We're not doing anything.
Exactly.
We're not enemies.
We can be friends.
We can trade.
We can do all this.
Philip and Maston was doing exactly that, while sending mercenaries to capture cities, while bribing officials, while conquering vast areas of territory.
And the chattering classes in Athens who felt themselves to be at the top of an empire in a situation that wouldn't change, felt that they could just win influence by slandering those who are actively at work.
And Sidney Powell is one of those who is actively at work.
And so any sensible citizen would support Sidney Powell over these leeches.
But yeah, not good news, I'm afraid.
But I really felt that everyone should be aware of this.
Who else is even reporting that guy's qualifications and what he's saying?
Nobody.
You can't hear that on TV. It doesn't exist.
No, you can't find it in the newspaper reports.
You know, you actually have to come here if you want to hear this, because we actually took the time to read it.
But yeah, Dr.
Navid Keshavaraz-Nia, which I'm doubtless still slaughtering the pronunciation of that, at least this exists, I suppose?
Yeah.
I mean, let's just say for the sake of argument, he's actually a con artist or something like this, right?
That's a long con!
I know, he's playing the long game.
That's a really long con.
I imagine this is what the Democrats or someone will say, oh, well, we don't actually know, have you met him, right?
But it's like, well, okay, but even then, would you not want to ask?
Would you not want to know?
Should you not be investigating as journalists, since that's the job of a journalist?
Exactly.
Like, are you really just going to cover your eyes and be like, no, I'm not even going to look at it.
Looking forward to the new Biden normal, though.
Back to the old normal.
That'll be great.
Back to US foreign policy under Obama.
Yeah.
Drone strikes.
Endless war.
Chaos.
Endless war.
Normalization of mass immigration.
Yep.
Letting China eat our lunch.
Man, the fact that he's like, China isn't going to eat our lunch.
It's like, dude, they're halfway through it.
Again, total Demosthenes moment.
I said about the whole thing of, you know, it's Macedon, essentially, China, building up slowly.
Yeah, totally.
And Biden gave that speech back when he was vice president, saying, you know, growth for China is good for America.
And it's just like, you utter idiot.
Like, how can you think this?
Yeah.
It's madness.
And it's maddening that he'll just say it to your face as if you're supposed to believe it.
And he's presenting an unreality that you're meant to buy it.
You could maybe buy it if it was, I don't know...
I don't want to use an Axis country, but let's just say Italy is gaining GDP growth.
They're not a threat to the world, but China, of all people, with the Communist Party in charge, they're actively thinking the long game to overcome the Americans.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, yeah, I'm...
I'm tremendously annoyed at the media.
And the thing that annoys me, though, is the attempt to kind of debauch Sidney Powell.
Because as far as I can tell, she seems to be a woman of good reputation.
Like, she's a lawyer, a successful lawyer.
She's now working, like, if not for the president, in tandem with the president.
She seems to have arrayed a remarkable slate of witnesses, a remarkable slate of evidence.
She was the lawyer for General Flynn.
Yep.
And he got pardoned recently.
But the only thing they ever got him on was they tried to entrap him and then Trump pardoned him.
So he never actually got found guilty of anything they were accusing him.
Yep.
But the thing is that they're trying to humiliate her.
They're trying to disgrace her and she isn't disgraced and she shouldn't be humiliated.
I think this is a weapon that the media has used far too much for far too long.
But anyway, should we read some Super Chats?
Hopefully they're a bit more cheery.
We're there, right.
SNI Draco says, Mindfuhrer, perhaps Mark Das infected with stars?
Yeah, we'll get onto that with the Freedom License and how this is definitely not something the Nazis would have done.
Cleverhand says, I like the idea of a sort of micro-empire of the islands.
That's quite cool.
But I don't blame you.
The SNP are, well, literally Scottish Nazis.
Stratos Radio Blues says, "Power lawsuit.
Whip out the microscopes for the grammar errors.
Possible new Middle East and more on the horizon, but Biden's socks." It's maddening.
Like, Trump's getting, like, Israeli goods in Arab markets, and Biden's like, no, this is terrible foreign policy.
He's like, Peace is about foreign policy.
I guess it is, for Biden.
President-elect Svelatnik says, correct spelling is racist.
Well, then, Sidney Powell's a bit of an anti-racist, I guess, isn't she?
Based.
Royal Ulster Constabulary says, you've got a license for all that O-Irish you've been speaking lately.
Yeah, do you, Callum?
By Ian Blackford's standards, you probably do.
I think I'm part of the Ubermensch.
LAUGHTER Or at least according to the pokes.
We'll get to that in a minute.
Yeah, we'll get to the Irish problem in a minute.
Jeremy McDude says, I'm half expecting if Trump actually ends up winning this, I think the hard left is going to essentially declare war and try to hard coup Trump.
Yeah, I mean, it's not just going to be the hard left either, because everyone thinks that Biden won, because the media is literally telling them that Biden won, even though nobody has won.
Yeah.
So, again, just outright lies.
I watched Chris Reagan's video on this yesterday.
It's like, oh, Biden won.
No, he didn't.
Nobody's won.
It's not over.
Like, nothing's happened.
Like, why?
Just everyone, everywhere, and people who should probably know better as well, are saying this.
And it's just outright lies.
Royal Ulster Constabulary says, we live in a civilization built by the British Empire, so why do people hate it so much?
I think it's wounded pride, to be honest.
Well, they lost.
It wasn't theirs.
Yeah.
I think that most imperial resentment comes from that, all through history.
It's not the anger against the concept of empire, it's just who's holding the reins.
This is something, how do you say it, Kemi Badendock, the qualities minister, said, where she was just like, well, we had a go at trying to take over the world, it didn't work, and we ended up getting taken over by the British.
And so it's just like, wounded pride about, eh, wish it was us, but I will.
Well, there we go.
That's literally...
I mean, you can point to the Scots and say exactly that thing.
The only reason the Scots came into the union anyway was because of the failure of the Darien scheme.
So it's just like, you know, you know what you were trying to do and you're just annoyed that the English did it better.
But James Hayes says, media narrative, Trump staging a coup is completely insane.
Trump clipped yesterday with him saying, of course he will concede if the election college votes Biden.
Media is so desperate to keep the narrative.
Yeah, I saw that today, where Trump's like, well, you know, obviously I'm not going to break the rules, but he's following the lawful procedure for challenging the election results.
He's actively following the rules.
This is where I have a little bit of sympathy for Chris, actually, where he was saying Biden's won.
It's so common that US elections do go this way, where it's overwhelming for one side, therefore you just concede.
But you don't have to.
That's a nicety, as Ben Shapiro pointed out.
The legal process is the legal process for a reason.
That's actually what you can do, and it is what he's doing.
He's done nothing wrong here.
No, and it seems that he's actually got really good reason to do this, because there are so many really glaring anomalies, and so many important people who are saying, look, this has been hacked.
Which is fine.
I mean, even if you hate Trump, he's not breaking any rules.
He's literally doing what he's allowed to do.
Yeah.
I'm angry at Trump for following the rules and not instigating a coup.
What are you saying?
But you are right.
The media narrative.
I saw The Guardian did a roundup of the late night comedians the other day going, oh, well, look, Trump's like staging a war on democracy.
It's like...
How irresponsible is this?
Like Seth Meyers and Stephen Colbert and stuff like this.
It's just totally irresponsible rhetoric.
Which is factually wrong as well.
It's factually wrong.
It's massively irresponsible.
It's totally misinforming people and giving them an expectation that may well be overturned.
I mean, if the allegations are true, they go through the courts and the courts are like, well, yeah, this is all nonsense.
You know, this is clearly election fraud.
All of it gets thrown out.
We'll just count whatever ballots we've got left.
Oh, look, Trump wins in a landslide.
Everyone's going to be shocked.
I don't know what the media is going to do.
I don't know how they're going to report it.
Surely they'll just be like, oh, the election's been stolen by Trump.
This is a coup.
I mean, this is the logical conclusion of what they've been saying.
Where else can they go?
Anyway, the epic denial slash cope of the media and blue checks is because of the grave they've been digging for the last four years isn't for Trump, but for themselves, says years.
That's a great point, actually.
Classic Rando says, was just in hospital using their Wi-Fi.
Could watch YouTube, but not your stream.
I wonder why.
Probably because we are marked not for kids, and this means you probably can't get us.
Because a lot of places have, like, a filter that they put on.
Thank you very much, Hazel, for the donation.
And Silver Snacks, thank you as well.
Antonio says, CNN, Unhinged Galileo presents baseless claims that the Earth revolves around the Sun.
This is what we're looking at.
When will the podcast be on podcast services?
When we have a website, because you need an RSS feed to get on the podcast services, and you need to host that on the website.
So it's kind of frustrating.
Thug Life Bear says, pretending China has no intention of being the world hegemon is a mistake.
The only reason they focus on SEA is because they don't have enough power.
Yeah, I mean, I don't see why anyone would doubt that China would want to become the world hegemon.
But after talking about these incredibly tough and lofty topics, should we go to something a bit more fun?
Yeah, something a bit more fun.
Come on, it's Friday.
We're not supposed to be depressing.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, I didn't scroll to where I need to scroll.
Yeah, there we go.
Okay, so you say the Pogues, right?
That's how you pronounce it?
The Pogues.
The elderly man, who knows?
Anyway, so...
I am, yeah.
So the Pogues is a band that has made a few controversial songs, and mostly because of their sympathies for Ireland and Irish nationalism.
They are Irish.
Yeah, so, you know, but in the modern age, that's not the problem.
The problem is, of course, political correctness, because they're not politically correct, because times have changed.
And the most famous one being, how do you pronounce it?
Fairytale in New York, that's the name.
So it has a lyric which I don't think we can say.
We can't say, but for anyone who doesn't know, Fairytale in New York is an old, like from the 80s or something.
An old but very famous Pogue song that gets played in pubs all across the country as Christmas comes around, because it's a Christmas song.
And it's not a bad song, apart from the guy singing, which is atrocious, generally.
He sounds like a drunk, and he uses what I guess we'll call the F word in it.
Sounds like a drunk.
That's just the Irish accent.
No, no, that's not fair.
He just particularly sounds bad.
Okay.
But yeah, no, he uses the F word.
So this has been in the news because if you can get the first tweet up, Radio 1 has decided they're not going to air the song.
This is played every Christmas in Britain.
I don't know how popular it is in the United States elsewhere.
Probably not, but it's definitely a British thing.
Yeah, so the band wakes up to this, if you can put the next one on.
Because it's not just Radio 1 that have done this.
Yeah, that's the BBC reporting on Radio 1.
He's just like, morning, this is how I'm going.
Next one.
So this is a smaller group, but they're saying they're not going to play it because it offends LGBT feelings, I'm guessing, because it has the word in it.
But I don't even know if it's used to refer to him as being a homosexual, because that word can be used in multiple instances and has been for different things throughout history.
Yeah, people outside of America should probably try and remember that it actually doesn't just mean homosexual.
It can mean cigarette, bundle of sticks, you know.
It can mean a form of food.
Or just a guy who's a bit of a...
Can't say it.
Yeah, but like, unironically, I could go down to our local supermarket and get some F-words.
Yeah.
A box of F-words.
And I could eat them and they might be delicious.
I've never actually had them, to be honest.
I've had them.
They're quite good.
Yeah, I've had some pepper.
What are they?
Meat and...
Yeah, they're just like meatballs.
Yeah, meatballs, right.
The F-words.
Yeah, but Californian imperial hegemony being what it is, I can't even name this food on the stream.
Isn't this the weird kind of American imperialism?
Yes.
That in Britain we have this word for other things and we just can't say it on this website because the Californians don't understand.
Yep.
And it's not just that as well.
It's like the way that the European nations discuss each other is also, like, from the Californian perspective, it sounds racist.
But in Europe, it's just how we identify the other nations.
It's just banter.
Yeah, it's not even just banter.
It's also just, like, how we just categorize each other, you know?
And so, like, when people were complaining that Kraut had been, like, Oh, you know, there's English and this, that, and the other.
And I'm like, no, he's fine to talk about the English that way.
It's kind of true.
It's the only thing the Germans have got left.
Yeah, exactly.
So they're no stranger to censorship.
This is a recent one for PC, but if you can put the next one up.
They actually had a song censored because it was perceived that they were supporting terrorism.
So under anti-terrorism legislation, the government said we're not playing this on national radio because it was supporting six Irishmen who were arrested after a bombing in Birmingham.
This would be an IRA terrorist attack.
Except the funny thing is, they're singing this song in support of those men, saying they're wrongfully convicted, and they get censored, right?
1990, it was proven that these men had nothing to do with it.
They had to give a payout.
It was between £800,000 to £1,000,000 for each one of them, for being convicted for that long on nothing.
Nothing wrong.
Anyway, so if you can get the next one.
This is also not a recent phenomenon.
In 2007, they tried to go after the same song.
Just look at the state of Shane McGowan there.
Yeah.
Well, it used to be sort of a punk scene, as I understand it.
So, the fact that he looks like that, not a massive surprise.
Yeah.
But, sorry, yeah.
So, they tried to go after it in 2007.
The same channel.
Oh, yeah, it's the same word.
The S word and the F word.
Yeah, I guess they're not going after the S word anymore.
No.
That was adopted by the feminists, though, wasn't it?
Yeah, that's now part of the march.
We can say that one.
Yeah, I think we can.
I mean, it's not a slur, is it?
It's been reclaimed.
But the public backlash to this was apparently immense and Radio 1 buckled and they said, okay, fine, fine, we'll play the song.
I think I remember.
It's a very popular song.
Yeah, I'm going to listen to it.
It's great.
But this time they're not going to.
And what I found interesting is we can get Lawrence Fox's first tweet up.
It's Lawrence Fox, rising star in the UK, talking a lot about free speech.
Founder of, was it Reclaim UK? Reclaim UK, I think it was the political party.
But for anyone who doesn't know who Lawrence Fox is, he's a British actor, recently went on, it was Question Time, wasn't it?
Had a confrontation with a woke professor and just told her that calling, saying that his white privilege was an inherent racial advantage was racist, which...
It is.
Well, he tried to give his opinion on something and she said, that's invalid because you're a white privileged male.
Yeah.
And he just turned around and went, right, that's a racist statement.
You're being racist.
Which is true.
That was his crime for saying that she was being a racist.
But since then, Lawrence Fox has become an anti-PC culture warrior in the most sargonic mould, which I fully approve of, of course.
And honestly, I think he's doing a great job.
So I'm so glad that he's continuing to go out there and call all of this stuff out.
As you can see here.
Here we go again.
The cultural commissars at the BBC are telling you what is and isn't appropriate for your ignorant little ears.
Wouldn't it be nice if we sent the proper version to the top of the charts?
Hashtag defund the BBC. So Lawrence Fox is standing up against censorship.
Exactly.
In favour of the post.
If this was the 70s, talking about that song about the IRA, I think it might have been the 80s, they'd be on the same side.
Yep.
And 2007, they were probably on the same side.
Yep.
Lawrence Fox probably was talking to his mates about it in 2007, right?
Yeah.
We can get the next one up.
This was the Pogue's response to him.
F off, you little heronvalk S-word.
And heronvalk means, I think it's Ubermensch?
Does it?
Is the translation, so yeah, the master race.
So they're calling him a Nazi.
What?
Just unironically, you're a Nazi for supporting free speech in our favour.
98,000 likes.
Ridiculous.
Unreal.
Step on us harder, Daddy.
That's what they're saying.
Lawrence Fox, I don't think the Pogues should be censored.
The Pogues, shut up, you Nazi!
But the Pogues are saying they shouldn't be censored as well.
Until the Nazi says it, and then censor us harder.
So Lawrence Fox had a great put-down for this, which is in the next one.
Just their lyrics, back at them.
Which we can't read.
No, we're not allowed to.
Okay, alright, let's move on.
But, um, this is a nice little story, because it's...
I don't know if they're SJWs, but, you know, typically ignorant to call him Master Race in response.
Getting dabbed on for just being morons.
It's mental.
But...
What was interesting is this week's, the Adam Smith Institute has promoted the idea of having a Free Speech Act.
I thought I might tie this in, because I know this is social censorship by the BBC and small groups.
It's still the spirit of the thing.
Yeah, there is some good news, at least, on the legislative front, which is, my understanding is this is being supported by the Free Speech Union, it's being pushed into conservative circles, and I'm hoping they take it up, or at least they definitely should.
Yeah.
And it's a rewriting of Britain's speech codes, because our speech codes are nonsense.
So you don't have to keep it up, because I'm just going to take some quotes from the actual report.
So, how they describe our situation in the UK, which I think is great.
British speech code is designed to protect the heckler, not the speaker.
It protects the offended, not those who would cause offence.
Speech which would be legal among friends, like-minded individuals, or simply people with a higher tolerance for ideas with which they disagree, becomes unlawful in the United Kingdom upon first contact with a person who objects to its content.
Thank you.
Totally true.
Because the Public Order Act, the Malicious Communication Act...
All the hate speech laws...
And Communication Act of 2003...
They're all based on subjective offence.
They're all based on insults, offence, or abusive words, which can mean whatever you want.
And I suppose in the 80s, I mean, I wasn't around, the idea of abusing someone with your words meant harassing them or stalking them would have had that kind of connotation, whereas today it's entirely...
It never came up.
I mean, I was only like 10 years old when the 80s, or 9 years old when the 80s ended or whatever.
But I mean, for the 90s, the laws were still there.
I mean, I guess, but it just never came up.
There's never even a big issue.
No.
Whereas now, of course, it's used by SJWs to go after anyone and everyone.
So their solution is just reword all of that instead of making it offensive, you know, abusive, blah, blah, blah.
Just say threatening.
Just say threatening or harassment.
Because that isn't protected speech in any Western nation that values liberalism or free speech because...
It's intimidation.
Yeah, you're actually going to harm the person here.
So, you know, if you're calling for their death or anything, right?
Yep.
Great.
And then they proposed that we should have a, in the Free Speech Act, which would reform all this, we should have a, what do they call it, a parliamentary covenant.
So this is an agreement that any new legislation will not break this.
So, for example, the way the UK works, we have a parliamentary covenant on who becomes the Prime Minister.
So it's the party with the biggest number of seats.
It doesn't have to be.
It doesn't have to have the majority of seats to become Prime Minister.
You just pick a guy.
I guess you could.
But we have the covenant that you don't do that because that would be ridiculous.
It's not very democratic.
Yeah, so this is how you get a First Amendment in the UK. They go through all the legal arguments and we're not going to read it because it's reading your own time.
But I thought I'd promote it.
I'm going to send this to my MP, ask him to start talking about it, send it to my Conservatives because they should.
They should adopt this.
Yeah, the Conservatives unironically should.
And you might want to send it to your Conservative MP. You can find their email address just on the Parliament website.
Search for your local MP. You'll be able to get their email address.
And generally, MPs are pretty good, actually, at responding to all this sort of stuff.
So, at least responding to an email that you'll send them.
Yeah, they might make two months, but they'll be back.
But there's also some funny stuff here that I thought I'd read.
So, describing the Law Commission, which is something we covered on another episode, in which they were saying, what was it, um...
Grossly offensive cartoons or inflammatory cartoons need to be banned.
Of course, Charlie Hebdo.
They're trying to ban that.
So their response to what they're proposing is that terrorism is the most desperate form of the heckler's veto.
Criminalizing expression that provokes terror in hopes that terror will be appeased is moral cowardice.
Correct.
Totally true.
Like, what are you doing?
Correct.
And then there's also the online harms bill, which is being promoted by Labour, in which they're talking about the fact that Zuck and Dorsey and all the rest of it have a duty of care to their users.
So the idea is, you're allowing misinformation or whatever, therefore you need to take care of your dear users.
And they point out that this might be reasonable for when you're hiring a primary school teacher to have a duty of care over the people she's looking after.
But for regulating all speech in society, I don't think it should be regulated on the same lines as a primary school teacher regulating children.
I just don't think Zuckerberg actually has the responsibility to regulate the speech of 2.6 billion people.
Isn't that the right?
Don't mind the responsibility.
Or the ability to do it.
And any ability to do it is going to be vastly sweeping and is going to include so many false positives it makes you wonder what was the point of doing it in the first place.
Yeah.
But then I wonder, with Silicon Valley, will they censor that song if they get wind of its existence?
Well, yeah, if it was, again, the cultural difference and the cultural divide.
Californians probably have never heard of this song.
It's probably not famous in California, otherwise it would have been banned decades ago, probably.
But that's the funny thing.
With British law, the reason it's not illegal here is because we have a threshold, obviously, if something's published before.
So, like, the Koran, for example, has an exemption, the Bible, the rest of it.
Oh, that's lucky.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's published before...
And Karl Marx.
Yep.
And Martin Luther.
Man, there's a lot of stuff that would fall out of acceptability if there wasn't this statute of limitations on it.
You've got to read Martin Luther at some point.
It's hilarious.
I probably do.
Okay, anyway.
So, the point I was going to make, if they publish that song today, so if you decided at home, I'm going to make a song with that word, or the same kind of song, that would be a crime in the UK. If you publish that on the internet, you are breaking the Communications Act.
And you can be sent to jail for it.
Because it's not whether or not you intended to cause any offence or raise racial tensions.
It's just because someone else interpreted it.
That's enough.
There we go.
Britain is not a free country because of the perpetually offended.
Yeah, which is why we need this act to be passed.
Yes.
But yeah, just a nice, short, sweet one.
Yeah, what's this?
Is this the next one?
Yeah, so we have the next subject.
It's about the Freedom License.
Well, should we do a few more Super Chats quickly?
Yeah, let's do that in a while.
Then we'll do the Freedom License.
So I'm not going to take a position on the Freedom License.
I'm just going to tell you why, and then I want you to interpret it, because I think you...
The answer is no.
Yeah, but why?
Like, an obvious, categoric no.
I think I can make you switch.
Okay, well we'll see.
Okay.
What did we leave off?
So, local government in the UK is rotten, there are pronouns in the bio, networks specifically for gays and minorities, it's crazy woke.
Yep, local government is always fairly rotten, but it's definitely not...
The people on the ground in local constituencies aren't going to know anything about wokeism, they're not going to understand the philosophy behind it, and they're just going to be told that this is coming from higher up, and they'll go along with it.
Nicholas says, as an American, how am I supposed to combat the demoralization of the constant barrage of media disinformation?
I would suggest that individually what you should probably do is just show the actual allegations being made by people in Sidney Powell's lawsuits to them.
The one I just read from the chap whose name I can barely pronounce.
If you find Sidney Kraken's posting, it's just the last one on the list.
Sidney Kraken.
Sidney Kraken, yeah.
That's a good name.
So just download that and send them that and then just ask them to just read it or just send them clips of it.
Be like, look, this is the guy's qualifications.
This is what he's saying.
Are you in a position to say that that's not true?
And who is in a position to say that that's not true?
If you have a family member or a friend who's disagreeing, that's fair.
But just send them the evidence, because CNN's not going to tell them.
Yeah, they're just not going to get through the media.
So it's got to be done through word of mouth, like it was in the olden days, I'm afraid.
And the thing is, that's got two benefits.
One, you're spreading accurate information that isn't being reported by the media, is being actively suppressed by the media.
And two, it'll make you feel like you've done something productive.
And it might help build the relationships with the people that you're actually speaking to, you know, on a personal basis.
So that's what I would say to anyone, in fact, not just for Americans, just anyone.
You know, we the people kind of have to go around the media.
President Alex Slatnik again.
China is using the lefties' narrative.
China claims Australia hurt China's feelings.
Leftists are really embarrassing.
Yeah, watching China go, oh, well, America's racist.
Like, really, China?
Yeah.
Really?
What happened to the black people in McDonald's again?
NewIKB says, I'm convinced that Brexit was a long con to get rid of all of Ireland.
Get the helicopters on the tarmac engines running, ready to pinochet the leftists.
Disavow.
The Angel Outlaw says, When time permits, I would love to see a long form with Carl Benjamin and Spencer Clavin about the young heretics on Western civilization, values, and history.
Yeah, I like Andrew Clavin.
He's a funny guy.
Oh, Spencer Clavin, sorry.
Who's Spencer Clavin?
No, I didn't mean Andrew Clavin.
It's a shame, because I do like him.
I met Michael Knowles, who's also awesome.
I don't know who Spencer Clavin is, though.
I'll have to Google him.
Yeah.
DL says, war is peace, is Joe Biden's foreign policy.
That's correct.
Steve Carter says, well, I never.
I can send a super chat, have five pounds for the new enterprise.
Good luck, lads.
Well, thanks very much, and it's probably not going to last.
Jerz says, please give a shout-out to Elizabeth Rogliani.
She's a Venezuelan expat living in the U.S. and has some vids comparing the current status in the U.S. to Chavez's rise in power.
Well, I mean, the allegation is that they're using the same sort of software that was designed to rig it so that Chavez would remain in power.
I mean, Chavez, the allegation we have is that Chavez never lost an election again because of this software.
And that's why I keep saying, you've got to get rid of these machines.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't have 2024 and 2028 and all the rest of it.
Keep going.
Hashtag pottery shards.
Chaos Walking says, I'm LGBT+. I not only don't find it offensive, it's one of my favourite songs.
Well, I'm afraid you're not allowed to enjoy that song anymore.
You ain't gay.
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, I vow you're gay, yeah.
It has a nasty word in, so you have to be perpetually wounded for the rest of time.
Thomas van der Hoef says, a single mark selection for Biden may be to reduce the potential to spot mass produced identical ballots.
Easier to detect multiple marks being the same.
Jakob says, love your work.
Much appreciated from Australia.
Got a topic for you.
The Australian government banned hentai.
I watched Dank's video on that yesterday.
And it's not just hentai.
It's a bunch of other stuff that they banned as well.
Which government?
The Australian one.
Because Australia is a prison colony.
The reason I'm laughing is because I once saw, I think it was the Senate of Australia having a meeting, and one of the conservatives has those little figures, you know, like the anime figures.
He just has them on his wall in his office.
He likes them, okay.
Degenerate, yeah.
A bit weird.
And the Green Party was, like, cussing him out in the Senate Hall.
Like, how dare you have these misogynistic figures?
And he was just like, leave me alone, I just like them.
LAUGHTER Misogynistic, Jesus.
Okay, well, let's go on to the final bit that you've got.
Let's talk about the Freedom Licence.
If we have to.
So, I'm going to see whether or not you're sold on the idea of a Freedom Licence as an alternative to lockdown.
So, the plan itself has been reported as, we're going to have a Freedom Licence, Barriss is going to bring this in, and it's going to be for travelling anywhere in the UK you need one.
anything official yet the closest they get in the winter plan themselves is saying the government plans to include frequent testing as an alternative need for self-isolation for people who've had close contact with someone with covid19 instead contacts will be offered regular tests as an alternative to self-isolation and they will only continue to self-isolate if they test positive so the idea is instead of having these lockdowns where everyone has to stay home we can just say okay we're going to test you you're sick you have to stay you're not sick
here's a piece of paper you're allowed to go free Thank you.
So this is where the story comes from.
You might be wondering why on earth did they come up with this idea?
You know, making British people wear identification papers.
Is it the Soviet Union?
A former Soviet Union satellite.
So Slovakia did this and they called in the army and had the army over a weekend test literally everyone in the country.
Four million people on a weekend.
Because the tests, they've got it down to a 15-minute turn.
So you block our houses, test everyone, next block our houses, keep going.
And they did it, and it worked.
And their situation was, if you are sick, we make you stay home, we will pay sick pay.
But if you are not sick, here's a piece of paper, which I think we could put on screen.
That's the type of thing you'd get.
And then you'd walk around with that, and if you got stopped by a policeman or something, there you go, I'm good.
Papers, please.
Yep, papers, please.
And it made sure they avoided a lockdown.
So that is quite a poor country, so I'm guessing they really, really wanted to avoid it.
So they were happy to throw the liberties under the floor.
So my understanding is if you didn't want to take the test, because I know some people don't, you just had to stay home.
Okay, fine.
You're part of the lockdown then.
But 98% of people took it up.
So that's just what it is.
And you might be wondering, well, a bit radical, where did they get this from?
Well, it turns out it's exactly what China was doing.
So they tested all of Wuhan in a single day.
They just closed down the city and went, right, we'll go through every single house in the city.
And then they did the same thing in Qingdao, same thing in Kashgar in the Muslim area.
And that's the strategy.
So you don't have to lock down the city.
Therefore, you can have the productive members of society out working.
What do you make of this?
I don't think the government should have the power to lock you in your own home.
I don't think the government should have the power to close your legitimate business.
I don't agree to any of this.
I'm sorry that diseases exist, but they have always existed and will always exist.
I mean, what happens next year?
Let's say we get rid of the coronavirus in a year's time and we're like, right, it's over, thank God.
Oh, there's another one that's come out.
Oh, look at that.
You know, 99% of people are surviving, but 1% of people dying, or 0.1% of people dying, whatever it is, is bad, and therefore lockdown all society again.
I mean, these lockdowns have been just utterly ruinous.
Like, oh, we can avoid lockdown by not locking down.
But people get sick.
People have always got sick.
People will always get sick.
This is just life.
This is just what happens.
No one lives forever.
Old people die of the flu every year.
I'm not trying to sound unsympathetic, but it's crazy how every year 20,000 to 30,000 old people die of the flu, and then one year we're like, yeah, okay, now it's going to end society, lock everything down to try and prevent this thing from happening.
I mean, do they think they're going to give old people eternal life or something?
Do you think they would have done this during the Black Plague?
No!
They didn't do this during the Black Plague.
You're wrong.
I only learned this because I read an A-level textbook about medicine.
Where did they do this?
This was City of London.
So there was a City of London ordinance that everyone had to remain home.
I think it was for either a month or two months.
Ridiculous for the Middle Ages.
Okay.
But that didn't exactly help that much, did it?
Apparently not.
So it helps with the number of dead per day.
So it's the flattening the curve argument.
Okay.
But here's where I'm sort of sympathetic to this idea because you could say, you know, as you say and as I agree, lockdowns are not good.
We don't enjoy them.
They don't seem to be doing that well.
They haven't killed the virus and they've destroyed the economy.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Politics is not what you'd like it to be.
So we're not going to get the ideal COVID solution in the UK because they're just not going to do that.
And there is broad support for lockdowns among the population.
It's sad, but that's where we are.
So if the government came out and said, right, I don't know why they're asking you, but let's just say we could continue doing the lockdown strategy or we could have this freedom pass where you have to carry the papers, which would you prefer?
I'm not giving them papers.
I'm not consenting to living in a Soviet system.
The only reason that I have to follow the lockdown as it is is because everything's closed.
There's nowhere to go.
And there are people across the country, individuals across the country, who are like, no, I'm going to open my shop.
To hell with you.
Magna Carta.
And there are people going, oh, well, this has nothing to do with it.
And it's like, yes, it does.
You...
This is the very key origin of the spirit of the idea that there should be limits to government power.
I'm sick of the midwits in the Bristol Live comments.
We're just like, oh, they're putting everyone in danger.
It's, oh, shut up.
99% of you will be fine.
You know?
So just for Americans who might not know, we have a semi-equivalent going on to sovereign citizens at the moment.
Yes.
Except it's more real because they're arguing the Magna Carta or ancient English law means that you have no right to do this.
Yep.
And some of these have been overturned.
People being arrested for breaking COVID have gone to court and they've won.
And they're like, you had no right to arrest me.
Because it's true.
This is, like, part of our ancient heritage, and I totally support these people who are like, no, screw you, Magna Carta, I'm not doing it.
Like, totally support it, 100%.
I hate, I hate that the government feel that they have this authority.
I mean, how is this different to fascism?
How is it any different to fascism for the government to say, well, actually, we can put the entire country in a lockdown?
Hitler didn't even try to do that.
Like, the gall of it, you know, the gall, like, right, Hitler's, like, right now you've all got to stay in your homes.
It would have been anarchy.
People are like, we're not going to stand for this.
You've got to do these things at a creeping pace, usually.
But today, these days, it's just like, no, the whole thing.
The entire world is going to go into a lockdown.
It's like, this is nuts.
But that's the thing.
I'm not saying either of these strategies are good.
No, they're awful.
But as you're pointing out, lockdowns...
I remember when we were speaking about this happening in China and thinking, how ridiculous.
They're locking down the whole place?
It must be really bad.
Yep, that was in the before time.
The idea this was a Chinese nonsense thing, and this Freedom Pass sounds like Chinese nonsense, you know, Communist Party control.
Yep.
But you've got to pick one of them.
You've got to pick either this kind of Chinese nonsense or that kind.
There are alternatives.
We probably can't mention on the stream.
But I'm serious though.
I'm going to essentially non-comply to the best of my ability because I just really have a strong moral disagreement with what's being done.
And I watch Boris's press conference.
It's like we've been occupied by a foreign power.
That's what he's talking like.
It's like, well, to avoid a lockdown, we just don't have to do one.
In fact, it's a great stress and effort for you to impose one.
You know, it'd be easier for you to just not do it.
You know, oh, but there'll be deaths.
It's like, Boris, everyone's gonna fucking die.
Every single person is going to die.
Everyone!
Get over it!
You can't save them!
You acting like you can be the saviour of people is not true!
The government cannot prevent you from dying from a disease.
That's not within their power.
They are not gods.
I'm sick of this.
And you've got countries that didn't go into lockdown that are not any worse than we are now.
And their economies haven't been nearly as destroyed.
Why are we doing this?
This is a fiction.
It's because you've committed to something that has done tremendous damage and now you are too proud to admit that you were wrong.
That's what this is about.
It's about your psychology, not about the actual science or efficacy of lockdowns.
Isn't it, Boris?
Well, you're not alone because we're on the way in and I believe there's basically northerners unionizing against Boris, northern conservatives.
And 60 of them have written a letter saying, this is ridiculous, you need to take us out of these restrictions because it's killing the economy.
So there is growing disdain.
I mean, we're preparing a sort of document in the office.
We're preparing a sort of document of the consequences of the lockdowns.
Because every day, a new consequence will come out.
I mean, two days ago, Rishi Sinek was like, we've lost 30% of the economy, guys.
And I'm like, right, okay, that would be in any other day and age, cause for like house on fire alarm.
This is...
So Venezuela, whilst it's turning into absolute hell and people had to eat rats, it was only 15% GDP lost per year.
So if we're at like 30% for, what was it, last two quarters or something?
Yeah, it's mental.
I'm looking just in Swindon.
You walk through the high street, it's just like it's a ruin.
It's a ghost town.
There was a Sainsbury's supermarket that's 50 years old that shut down because of these lockdowns.
Now it's just gone.
This Superman's been there for 50 years.
Like the Oasis, the swimming pool, you know, swimming pool, gyms, tennis courts, all that.
These have all shut down.
These are not here anymore.
They're not going to reopen because of these goddamn lockdowns.
Everything is being destroyed, and Boris is doing it, acting like he's got no power to not do it.
And it's like, no, just admit you made a goddamn mistake.
I would forgive it.
I'd be like, yeah, there was fear.
Everyone was afraid.
No one knew how bad it would be.
Turns out it's not that bad.
Turns out it's not the end of the world.
It's not the Black Death.
I mean, what are we handing down to our children?
Here's a ruined civilization, but at least your gran didn't die of COVID 10 years ago.
Like, okay, great.
We've got the statistics.
I mean, the Scottish ones are probably the best, where it's like, what was it?
So they break it down by bracket, you know, every decade of an age.
And if you're between zero and I think it's like 51 or something, it's like 12 deaths or something.
Yep.
Okay, wow.
And somewhere like 15% of over 80-year-olds died with COVID. So, okay.
That sucks.
There is some good news if you're opposed to this freedom license, which is that it was predicated on the idea of the Slovakians.
They were able to do 4 million in two days.
We're only able to do 500,000 tests per day, and they estimated that the government looked through the idea.
they'd have to get 10 million tests a day to be able to do this over a week test the whole country because 70 million 80 million people maybe in the uk so it's unlikely to come in but i think they are introducing a freedom license for going overseas which to be honest i do see an argument for because you're going to be inside a metal box with 100 200 people and then you land and you're going to spread out throughout the country you know probably have to fill in some forms because would you want sick people you know let's say we get rid of covid in the uk would
Would you not want some restrictions to make sure you don't get new Covid patients coming in?
Look, it's good enough for the foreigners.
I think it's good enough for us.
I think that's exactly the reason we should reject it, frankly.
Again, what I think is the problem is that we are conceding that the government has the authority to manage this kind of thing.
And they don't.
They don't have the authority to just manage society on such a wide scale like this.
Because they could be afraid of anything tomorrow.
Anything could be...
Whatever new fear is put into their heads that could be vastly overblown or could be completely understated, but whatever it is.
The next fear would be, oh, well, we're justifying all this tyranny because we're afraid.
It's like, well, then resign.
Resign.
If you are not man enough and capable of...
Like, what if Winston Churchill, this is like the Neville Chamberlain argument...
You know, it's like, oh, well, you know, the Nazis are scaring them.
They're going to declare, well, whoa, give them what they want.
No, we don't give them what they want.
That's weakness.
That's weakness personified.
Yes, like, obviously, take reasonable steps to protect people who are at risk.
You know, as in, make sure that don't do an Andrew Cuomo and put COVID patients in the bloody nursing homes, obviously.
You know, make sure nurses have got all of the protective gear they need, and if a nurse becomes sick, have them isolate.
That's fine.
But why does society, where people are simply just not vulnerable to this disease, cannot be destroyed by And what annoys me the most is that has anyone at any point ever gone to the pensioners and said, listen, you're 70-something years old, nearly 80, whatever it is.
Your grandchildren are at no risk.
Your children are at no risk.
But you have a 15% risk of dying if you catch this disease and whatever the percentage was.
Do you want us to shut down all of society, confine everyone to their homes so you can never see any of your family for the next year or so?
We're going to destroy every independent small business.
We're going to massively enrich Amazon.
We're going to absolutely destroy the health of the economy and the country at large.
For your sake, for a few more years of life for you.
We had that.
There was an interview with that based lady who was just like, I've got 10 years left in me.
I don't care.
Yeah, absolutely.
And this northern granny, she was in 80-something herself, and she was like, no, this is ridiculous.
You know, you're destroying the country for my grandchildren.
Because believe it or not, and I know this is hard to understand for sort of like, you know, the childless metropolitan class, but some people actually care about things that happen after they die, and being dead is actually not the worst thing that can happen to them.
Other people being dead that they care about is the worst thing that can happen to them.
And ruining their lives in advance for a few more years of life for yourself seems deeply selfish.
And I don't think that they'd overall be in favour of it.
I think that if you ask them, destroy your grandkids' futures for a few more years of life, or run the risk of catching a disease and allow them to live healthily, I know which one I would pick.
Yeah, no freedom license.
Yeah, no freedom license.
Yeah, this is the one.
I'm 83 and I don't give a sod.
Good.
Good for her.
South Yorkshire woman.
Good on her.
I think Johnny's got this.
It's like a siren.
Daily siren at this point.
Yeah, obviously we've gone too far and the police have come to arrest us for refusing to take our test and get a license.
Yeah.
But yeah, but look at what she's saying here, right?
All the rest of us, I'm 83, I don't give a sod.
I look at it this way.
I've not got all that many years left of me, and I'm not going to be fastened in a house when the government have got it all wrong.
How can we get the country on its feet, money-wise?
Where's all the money?
By the end of this year, there's going to be millions of people unemployed, and you know who will pay for it?
All the young ones.
Not me, because I'm going to be dead.
Exactly, right?
Now, that might sound...
What's the average age for a woman again?
Like, you've got this memorized.
like so it's actually people who are above the life expectancy for the UK who are most likely to die from COVID yes I mean, I remember seeing an interview with a doctor a while ago.
He's like, well, look, basically, if you die from the fluids, it's because your body is just not really strong enough to carry on.
And that's a consequence of being an octogenarian.
Like, that's, you know, after 80 years of life, your body is worn out.
You're not going to live forever.
You only have so much life in you when you're born, you know.
Eventually, and for whatever genetic reasons, DNA strands break or something.
I don't know.
Whatever it is.
Whatever the aging process is, it's just inevitable.
And this weird fetishization of keeping people alive forever, it's not going to happen.
Not going to happen.
It's nonsense.
I hate it.
Let's get into the Super Chats.
You can read some.
Where are we leaving off?
20 Swedish...
What is that in Swedish?
Oh, I said Swedish.
Norwegian Kroner, sorry.
Lars Peter Simonsen.
Journalists bleating four legs good, two legs bad.
Yes.
Shaker Silver.
Silicon Valley is hoping 230 is repealed, so the responsibility is on them to moderate their own AI. Bitchute, Parler, Gab do not have C6's videos.
Sorry about that.
They don't have the ability to moderate.
So if you make it so everyone has to moderate everything, well, Facebook will have the resources and the money, but Parler won't, for example.
Sure, but Facebook might not have the resources and money forever.
Yeah.
Like, if it becomes an unusable cesspool, then why would you use it?
Literally, you can see on Twitter, there are entire threads of people talking where it's just, this has been hidden, this has been hidden, this has been hidden.
It's like, what?
I'm not using this.
Well, I should just take it away for Twitter or Facebook, anyone who acts in that kind of ridiculous manner.
How do you say that?
C or C? C or C? Black Betty by Ram Jam was regionally banned because it was racist.
Despite having been an African-American work song, a Black Betty may mean a rifle.
Don't know anything about that song, so I'm going to disavow just in case.
No idea.
I don't even think it is about race, but anyway.
Matthew Phillips, been a fan since you were given free publicity from other YouTubers.
It's been a pleasure hearing from you on the Western culture and history, and excited to see the Lotus Eaters team expand.
Thank you very much.
Coffee time general?
Kuma, an election.
Oh god, I'm gonna...
No, I'm not gonna read that.
You're gonna fraud.
President-elect Harambe.
I'm loving all the president-elects.
Yeah, me too.
No one's going to take it from Alex Jones.
Lotus Eaters play D&D when?
On that note, I recently started a Patreon S-Star for monthly D&D item cards, art, and lore.
May I trouble you with a shameless plug?
Find me at under Dragon Weaver.
No, find me under Dungeon Weaver.
Find me under Dungeon Weaver.
Cheers.
But yes, yes, you can have a shameless plug.
President-elect Harambe.
You can teach me how to play D&D. I've never played it.
Hmm.
Uh...
Thumble?
ThumbleGudget says, PCR tests have a 1% plus false positive rate.
That's why there are so many cases, but barely anybody is sick.
Yeah, what was it?
Elon Musk took like four cases, four tests in the same day, and two came out positive, two came out negative.
Lamal.
Yeah, it's like, okay.
I mean, and there are other questions as well, like, you know, Chinese coronavirus tests not working or things like this.
Things being contaminated.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I mean, Where are they?
Just walk around.
Where are the coughing people?
Where are the sick people?
If you didn't tell me about the disease, I wouldn't know it existed.
I meant free publicity about you and Patreon.
That's from Matthew Phillips.
No problem.
Alex Masters, my biggest worry is how do they justify not doing this every flu season from now on?
Yes.
It's a good point because I remember, who's that guy in charge of US biology?
Fauci.
Fauci came out and said after we get the vaccine and everyone's vaccinated, continue wearing the masks.
Why?
Why did I take the vaccine then?
Yeah.
But this is the thing, because the UK government is combining COVID and flu deaths into the same tally now.
So they're not even recording COVID deaths separately, because COVID is essentially just a virulent strain of the flu.
And exactly as I said, I mean, if it's the same problem, which is next year, OK, COVID may be gone, but we've got a new flu, and the flu affects old people much worse than it affects young people, and it's a major killer of old people, how do we not justify locking down?
I think the estimate, I think it's over 3,000 or 5,000 people a year, we lose in the UK due to flu.
Oh, it's more than that.
It's more than that.
Is it more than that?
Yeah, yeah.
I'd have to go and see the statistics, but it's thousands, thousands, thousands, thousands.
Because flus are just endemic, and old people eventually succumb to something.
I don't want old people to die, obviously.
But you are going to.
Yes, you are going to.
That's just an inevitability.
You cannot preserve your life indefinitely.
Especially not by ruining the economy.
What are we going to do?
Jonathan Rossler, Carl, hurry up and get your website running so that I can give you my superior American dollars, you leaf water drinking limey.
All tears leaf water.
That's an Avatar reference.
We are waiting.
We're just waiting for things to happen because we're not the ones actually physically developing ourselves.
Wanton.
There is nothing more permanent than a government's temporary solution.
Is that Milton Friedman?
I thought it might have been Reagan, actually.
I think it's Friedman.
We've got it from Friedman.
Coffee boiler.
Interesting fact, the average lifespan is 82 years old.
The coronavirus has a death rate of about 1% until 84 years old.
Then it skyrockets to about 15 or so.
Yeah.
T-Bone.
Due to a kidney transplant, I haven't worked in my office since March.
Lockdown 2.0 has given me panic attacks, anxiety, and depression.
I want my civil liberties back.
How many people need to suffer?
All of them.
Great point.
All of them need to suffer.
That's what these universal lockdowns are about.
All of us have to suffer because the government is afraid that there will be a spike in deaths because of a form of the flu.
Mojo Ich.
Save the NHS. The GPs I work with are going mad because of the problems with referring people to the hospital with CPC flu closures.
What's CPC? I'm not sure, actually.
Okay.
But I understand it is a huge problem at the moment where you can't get people to come in for procedures that they need, or you can't book people because...
They're being actively discouraged.
Save the NHS. Well, I don't want to go and be a burden.
It's like, yeah, but it is there to save you from the cancer that will kill you.
Such a nonsensical argument.
Save the NHS. I didn't pledge allegiance.
The NHS is here to save us.
Yeah, I didn't pledge allegiance to the NHS. If the NHS goes under, okay.
We pay for it to save us from diseases.
We are not here to sacrifice ourselves for the institution.
And to be perfectly clear, we're not going to be able to afford the institution if the economy carries on like this.
We really can't.
Yeah, exactly.
Before this happened, we couldn't afford this, really.
We were just borrowing.
And now, we're in a fiction.
We're in a total fiction over this.
The civic nationalist.
Me and my friends don't care.
We just meet up and get drunk.
We know the stats and we're all healthy.
We're avoiding our grandparents to protect them.
That's sensible, in my view.
But the thing is, the knock-on effect, like, A, there have been loads of people, like, loads of increased deaths because of the lockdown.
Domestic violence has gone up, suicides have gone up, children being killed have gone up, because people are just trapped in a house, like, cabin fever all day, every day.
But then, like, the 83-year-old from Yorkshire said, what kind of life is that?
You know, they've only got a few years left anyway, and they know it.
I'd like to see my grandkids.
Like, I'm sure you know people who have a mental, you know, depression, anxiety and stuff.
Yeah, absolutely.
This all must be through the roof.
They're losing their minds, so.
I don't have to say that.
Diablarist.
For the greater good, benefits the corrupt few.
That's completely true.
I like that.
I'm going to use that.
Alex Masters.
Arguing between lockdowns and freedom licenses is like arguing between what kind of bread is best to build a suspension bridge out of.
F word at all.
Yeah, but you're absolutely right.
That's exactly the problem.
The framing is the problem, because A, the government shouldn't have the authority to do that, and B, it's totally counterproductive for almost anything else, and it's just destructive.
Like I was saying, just so no one gets me wrong, I'm not saying either of those options are good.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
Just so you're aware.
I just lost where we were.
Alex Masters.
I love it.
Royal Ulster Constabulary.
North Chad's resisting lockdown, simple as.
Yep.
This was a point I had a conversation with a guy yesterday about this.
Have you even heard on the BBC anything about protests in Liverpool?
Nope.
Protests against coronavirus.
Nothing reported on the BBC. Protests against the virus or the lockdowns?
Lockdowns, you know.
Well, Liverpoolians, man.
But isn't that interesting?
It was a great point.
You can watch it on RT, but you can't watch it on our mainstream media.
Because, as Giuliani says, the media is keeping information from the public.
But isn't that, like, it's such, like, we met this Russian guy, and he was upset because he grew up in the West, loving the West, save us from the Soviet Union, all the rest of it.
And you know how you had, what was it, American news or whatever used to be transferred via radio?
And people who would listen to it were considered, you know, foreign sympathizers and spies, and you're siding with the Americans, aren't you?
Yeah.
And he made the point where it's very similar in the opposite direction now.
Like, Russia today, not a simp forum.
It is Russian government propaganda and all the rest of it.
But then the BBC is British government propaganda, so there we go.
The American radio at the time was American propaganda.
Like, it was funded by the US government.
But isn't that interesting that...
It is reversed at this point.
You can listen to news, but you have to listen to the foreigners to get everything.
Because the domestic won't give you everything.
It's wild.
Anyway.
We better crack on.
Let's crack on, sorry.
The seventh candidate.
Fascism equals National Socialism.
Even Word is from Italian Unionist movement in World War I. How do we challenge the socialist using of the word years...
Sorry, I couldn't say that.
You don't need to challenge it, just call them socialists, they are.
Yeah, I mean, one of the things that I do get frustrated with is the...
I mean, I just don't see fascism as being particularly right-wing...
The concept of it being authoritarian top-down is very illiberal, and it seems that, like, conservatives are just the sort of liberals who want to own their own businesses these days.
It's like, when you meet an ethnic or an unironic fascist, I'm just like, go away socialist.
Yeah, they just sound like comics, really.
I don't want to use the word.
Debate for another time.
Yeah, it is.
Freddie Last, number one fan.
You sure are.
Oh, thank you.
How do you say that?
I'll read it.
2A says, Give a politician a power.
They will be incapable of not using it.
This will not end until the people make it clear that this will not be tolerated.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
To anyone who's got a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Who's it that said that?
I know it was an author.
Damn it, it's an American author.
I can't remember his name.
I'll Google it.
I know who it is.
This is right on the tip of my tongue.
AJ says, It's sad good people feel bullied in silence for fear of being called selfish or bad by bootlicking Marxists.
Oh, and Swindon was always a cesspit.
Man, it wasn't, right?
I moved here like 20 years ago, and Swindon was actually quite nice.
Bustling.
It was a truly bustling place.
But now it's dead.
The difference is night and day.
Abraham Maslow is the name of the guy who came up with that phrase, apparently.
No, is it?
Maybe someone else coined it.
I was thinking of an author, yeah.
Baba Hotep says, are you as curious as I am to see the mortality rates for this year compared to previous years and how the media will spin it if it's lower?
It's bound to be low because people staying at home don't get in car accidents and things like this.
I think we have seen the statistics, actually.
Yeah.
And they are lower.
Missed one there.
Aging is DNA, making bad copies of itself.
Come back and visit Ireland, and not an overpriced tourist trap this time.
Yeah, I'd love to go somewhere in the country.
Do you stay in Dublin?
Yes, I do.
Oh, mistake.
Well, it was nice, actually.
It was actually really nice.
OREX says, From Slovakia, not true.
Army was involved.
It was logistic and security capacity for the testing.
This was from one who refused to take part in it.
Yeah, I should have mentioned when I said the army, because I should have said logistics, because there was a lot of fear from anti-COVID people saying, oh, they're bringing in the army.
Well, it sounds tyrannical.
They are, but it was for logistical reasons, which we've done the same, actually, but just not to the same extent.
Thankfully we've barely got an army anymore.
"There is a reason that Romer and Emperors had a slave to say their name in their ear that remember you are mortal.
Memento Mori." That's correct.
It's very easy when you've got the unabashed adulation of a vast crowd to forget that you are just a man.
CrazyFerretLady says, Will not get a test or a vaccine or wear a face diaper.
Wash my hands or go wherever I want.
I will keep my immune system at top always.
Good for you.
Good for you.
I don't necessarily agree.
Like, I feel like washing your hands.
Please.
Like, if you go to the bathroom.
Right, okay, yeah.
But the hand sanitises everywhere you go.
Because, I mean, there are arguments scientifically from the other side saying, well, hang on a second.
You do actually need bacteria on you to keep your immune system healthy.
And if you keep erasing all of these bacteria, then your immune system becomes weaker.
It's also one of the problems with...
Eat dirt, basically.
...antibiotic bacteria, where they become resistant because of, like, overusage.
Yeah.
There are arguments for this.
Yeah, yeah, there are.
There are.
Gregor says, have my German shekels, Carl.
Will you enjoy eating your Lotus on Devo's mould couch when it arrives?
Great stream, by the way.
Yeah, I know.
How gross is Dev's couch?
And Bruglia says, try Galway City next time you go to Ireland.
I certainly will.
Again, if we ever get out of the lockdown and if I'm ever allowed to do anything without a Freedom License.
But thank you everyone for joining us and we will be back on Monday, 1pm UK time, to discuss the latest ways in which we're being oppressed by our government.
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