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Feb. 17, 2026 - Louder with Crowder
01:05:15
No Surprise: Another Trans Lunatic Mass Shooter - PLUS Under Secretary of State Sarah Rogers

Sarah Rogers joins to dissect media bias around transgender shooters, exposing how outlets like The New York Times and CBS initially hid Robert Dorgan’s (2019–2020 gender surgery) ideological ties—despite his family linking violence to mental health struggles. The speaker claims 43% of transgender individuals admit to intimate partner violence, citing elevated suicide rates (81%) and self-harm (56%) post-surgery as proof of systemic psychological harm. They argue conservative free speech protections in the U.S. remain stronger than Europe’s, where a British woman was jailed for calling a rapist a "faggot" and a Swedish activist faced prison for Quran-burning critiques. Rogers’ segment later pivots to global censorship, framing it as a clash between ideological purity and pragmatic governance, while the host ties tax overpayment to perceived cultural betrayals. [Automatically generated summary]

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Magical Escape 00:02:46
It's all so magical.
I've never had fun that says someday a boo.
I've never had fun that says someday a boo.
Do you trust me?
Say to me, how many, my wonderful time in my you should say Say to me, how many, my wonderful time in my you should say Father and guns is fair.
I'm going to free you, Jim.
I ran away from friend and I am not going back.
You should, you should, I'm free.
I ran away, oh friend, and I am not going back.
Let's make some magic!
Where's this
girl?
I am not going.
That's a mine.
It's all so magical.
What are you doing?
Just play along.
I'm playing.
Glad to Be With You 00:05:17
Stop, Gerald.
Don't make me happy.
Then I can't do the show.
Glad to be with you.
Jerry likes to make me miserable before I do the show because he thinks I'm sharper.
He thinks the hate keeps me warm.
And today that's going to come in handy because I'm getting too old for this.
Here we go again, whatever sequel cliche line you need.
Another trans shooter.
But don't worry, it has nothing to do with being trans and there's no association with mental illness.
And as of mission control, make sure that I'm still correct as of the time of this broadcast.
Still, no mention at many of the major outlets that this shooter was trans and deranged.
So, we're going to get into that, the ins and outs, what you need to know.
There is fake news out there, as is the case with all of these events now, unfortunately.
Outside of that, we have a very special guest today, the Undersecretary of State Sarah Rogers, who has been on a mission really over there in Europe.
Tidings of free speech and some initiatives that are important.
And you're also going to hear her quote somebody else and use the word, which is how I like my undersecretaries to be.
I really like it when they use the word head.
So, enjoy the show.
What does overpaying on your taxes feel like?
Good job this morning, Billy.
About like that.
Don't let the IRS bust your balls.
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Glad to be with you.
We have to keep good time today because we have the Undersecretary of State, Sarah Rogers, on the show.
She's hilarious.
She is hilarious.
It's funny.
It's a very serious position.
It's a very serious title.
And she's actually funnier than many guests we've had who are supposed to be funny.
So at least in the clips.
I don't know.
Maybe she has to be more subdued today.
But let me ask you this: what's the shooting?
Question of the day.
What patterns are you noticing with the shooters?
Nothing.
We'll go through that today as we do all weekdays, 11 a.m. Eastern.
Captain Morgan, how are you?
I'm doing well.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
Yeah.
Huge.
Yeah, I said your missus had a question for you last night, and so did my lady.
I said, yes, noodles is a problem.
Weird.
I don't know.
They had to lower the water in the toilets because he kept complaining.
Every time he sits down, that thing just dips right in.
Yeah, we had to change the right angle of the pipes.
Yeah.
It's like a submarine.
It's my crazy thing.
Right angle.
He had to install your problem with a stepladder so he can get all the way up there.
He has to wear Ipsy hammer pants.
That's enough, guys.
We went fishing last week.
I used noodles as an angle.
Come on.
Hey, no.
And the bait.
Ew.
That was not a line.
That was just dangles a glow worm.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Friday, Saturday, March 20th, 21st at the Summit City Comedy Club in Fort Wayne, Indiana, not underscore Feierstein.
Hello, good morning.
And good morning.
And Billy, we do have the other mic, because I know we had several people in the studio.
Husbands and Adultery 00:14:42
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Is that other?
I was making it.
Do you want to use two mics?
No, no.
I don't need to do it.
You don't need it.
No.
Come on.
It's one mic per person.
Yeah, that's it.
Don't be selfish.
All right.
So this first thing, though.
And I want you to comment below, particularly if you are a Christian, particularly if you're a Protestant Christian in the United States.
Have you noticed the wolves in sheep's clothing?
And, you know, we talked about Nala Ray, for example.
There's a real trend now for people to sort of build, in some cases, what may be false testimonies.
It used to be you went through a transformative experience.
You sat in the pew for a while.
You learned, and then you may be able to reach people who had similar experiences or had walked a similar path of sin before redemption.
Now there's a really quick turnaround to sell a course that leads people down a distinctly anti-biblical road.
So this is one that I found.
I don't even know how I stumbled across it.
It does all of those things, as well as embarrasses a real life husband on social media in the name of modern Christianity.
See if you can spot the problem.
Even though I don't deserve it, you did it.
What my husband did to bring me back after I cheated on him for another man.
For another man.
Yes.
And here's what she wrote on her profile.
She wrote, here's what many people get wrong.
Yes, God restores, he heals, he renews.
And as much as there is a part only God can do, there's a part we have to do.
My husband didn't just pray and wait.
He obeyed.
He sought godly counsel.
He invested in mentorship and support.
He allowed himself to be stretched, corrected, and refined.
You almost think he's the one who was out there cheating.
He confronted himself with discomfort, the discomfort that you were committing adultery, and learned how to lead me away from committing adultery, love me in spite of your adultery, and stand firm in truth in ways he never had before in the face of adultery.
It wasn't easy, she writes, because he committed adultery.
It was humbling, I guess, because he committed adultery, so it was embarrassing.
He's deeply uncomfortable.
Adultery does that.
But his obedience didn't just restore a marriage.
It saved our family from your adultery.
Now, to be clear, better synopsis of what happened.
If you scroll down the line, she'd be like, and then he was going to, he was using prostitutes.
And that would seem, she also discussed how they had an open marriage.
So they had an open marriage, both of them making mistakes, but then she was going to leave and fell in love with another man.
And it's incumbent upon the man to correct it.
This brings us to the bio there where she actually got divorced, right?
They did.
They divorced.
Got divorced and then got back together.
So it was like, she didn't just like go and like, you know, have an adulterous affair or something like that.
She like actually left, divorced, gone, done.
And they're kids, by the way.
And fell in love with another man.
She made sure to mention that a lot on her page, that she fell in love with another man.
Never mentions falling out of love, which is interesting.
Yes, is very interesting.
And mentions that, you know, she was the one who left him repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly.
And the good news is you can, there's some kind of a course.
Yeah, she sells a course.
Yeah.
There's some kind of a course.
She can teach your husband how to give good massages and how to keep his wife.
Yeah.
Because, you know, this is the man's job to fix, just to be clear.
The bio reads, restoring marriages after adultery that she committed.
Supporting women to soften after, I guess, the woman commits adultery.
Equipping men to lead after the woman commits adultery on him.
Equipping men to lead after you committed adultery and posted about it, equipping them.
So like a two by four with a nail in it?
Bitch.
No, she means by equipping men to lead, she means, you know, telling him, hey, when I cheat, you have to bring me back.
Right, right, yeah.
How about how about you work?
This is a thing, too, with marriages.
How about you work on you and he'll work on him?
It's really a simple equation.
Now, the thing that most women in the church or many women in the church don't like is that even if he's not working on himself, it's still not, if you subscribe to the Bible, still not your place to tell him how to work on him.
And it's certainly not your job to equip him with the tools that's between him and God and the men who hold him accountable.
And it's certainly not your job to equip him after you have repeatedly committed adultery and embarrassed him all over social media in spite of the courses that you want to sell.
Are any women buying this?
Are you understanding why men are checking out of the dating pool?
Comment below.
Do you guys see this?
This is the problem with the modern sort of feel-good self-help non-denominational church.
Yeah, the Protestant church really does get a lot of things wrong.
Unfortunately, I like the idea of a Protestant church that has a little bit more freedom, but I hate it when you completely run away from tradition and you completely go for stuff like this, like this new age idea of what a relationship with God is.
By the way, I scrolled and I tried to find, I don't have an Instagram account personally, but I tried to find, so maybe it's there and I couldn't, her saying, here's what I did to work on me.
Oh, it's not there.
Here's my problem that or him.
It seems like everything was him or him.
It's mostly him related.
Well, like we made mistakes, but he had to go work on him.
I'm like, what?
Wait, wait a minute.
You literally divorced your husband and left for another man.
Where is the I screwed up part?
Right.
She fell in love with another man.
She didn't just leave for another man.
She fell in love.
She's still in love.
She can't control it.
Well, the good news is she has, if you find yourself in a situation like this where a woman cheats on you, falls in love with another man, abandons you and your family, the good news is there is hope for you if you subscribe to this course and if you follow her advice.
For example, here is some advice that she gives to men on how to prevent cheating or the withholding of sex, should your wife be doing so.
Yeah, make sure you get the breast in there.
She writes, and she's like half German, has your wife ever shut down when you approached her or even when you were in the middle of being close to each other?
There are many reasons for this.
I will not get into it right now, but here are three things you can do as a loving husband to tend your relationship so it can be long-lasting, fruitful covenant you both desire.
Number one, during the day, no matter if you are at work or somewhere, this is advice towards men, by the way.
During the day, no matter if you are at work providing a roof and protection, which I will abandon and take half, somewhere away, or if you are both in the same place, make sure to create moments of connection and safety for her, a hug, a smile, a deep gaze into each other's eyes, or prayer.
This is part of your intimacy that will set the tone for many more things you experience together.
He's coming home getting the bedroom.
Now, it's an extreme example to make a point.
But which one would be sunk up?
Which one would be more biblical?
Yeah.
Let's go.
All of it is advice to men.
Men work on men and then women work on men.
Here's another one about the biggest lies about sex, according to her, biblically, that you shouldn't fall for.
The biggest lie about sex and marriage, and you probably believe that.
Oh, boy.
She writes, the biggest lie about sex and marriage, and you probably believe it.
Okay, here are four.
Number one, sex is a duty for the wife or husband.
Number two, these are lies, according to her.
Oh.
Number two, sex is a transactional thing.
You do X and I give get Y. Number three, it isn't so important and totally overrated.
Number four, the wife gives her husband sex, and if not, he goes somewhere else to get it.
Well, no one's going to be able to do it.
Well, that's just toss that out there.
Let's deal with the first one because she doubles down on that.
She writes: So, first of all, it is not a duty, but designed for you to be a gift in your marriage.
If you don't want to do it, but somehow feel like you have to, you're doing something wrong.
Let me take you to 1 Corinthians 7, verse 3 through 5.
The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife.
Sex.
And likewise, the wife to her husband.
Does that say feeling?
Oh, it says marital duty.
Yes.
The wife does not have authority over her own body, but yields it to her husband.
Getting kind of clear now.
In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body, but yields it to his wife.
Do not deprive each other, except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourself to prayer.
Then come together again.
Meaning, like then immediately come back together so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
So not only is it described as a duty, not only is it reiterated as a duty, it's contextually reiterated without even using the word duty, saying that your own body is not under your authority but your husband's and vice versa.
Then the Bible goes on to say, and contextually, if you both agree to it, for example, maybe a time of prayer and fasting, just like denying yourself sweets, which isn't in and of itself evil, of course.
These things God can create for good.
If you both agree, immediately go back because pragmatically, you are more likely to stumble or be tempted if you're denying either of your spouse sex.
It is a duty.
You need to do it.
So let me just.
That sounds awful, by the way.
I know.
Coming together and agreeing to have a sex fast.
That's like coming together and asking, hey, you want to have leftovers tonight?
Yeah.
No.
Sometimes you come together.
Sometimes there's also a couple of things.
Just play things out.
Women weaken blanks.
You're like, all right.
I love how, by the way, I just want to go back to her quote.
The first thing she starts off with is a complete biblical lie.
It's a lie.
It's not a duty.
It's not an accident.
It's not something that she mistook and she misunderstood.
It is a 100% biblical lie.
If somebody does something like this, immediately discount everything they say after that and move on down the road.
Don't sign up for the course if it's $49.99, but wait, sign up.
It literally says, ignore God's command.
Yes.
And go with your feeling.
And by the way, your feeling is dependent on does he create moments of safety and intimacy while he's at work and he should be working?
So I'll give you two examples.
Sex is a gift, actually.
It's not a duty.
If you don't feel it, something's wrong.
Okay, that's hers.
I'm going to give you an extreme example to make a point.
Then I'm going to ask you a question.
Okay.
He says he wants to do it.
Open your legs and show your husband sexual gratification.
Which one is more in line with the biblical description of a sexual duty of a spouse?
And the same for she comes home, she's into it, you're not.
Sorry, brother.
You got to go.
You got to pony up, dude.
You got to go.
Yep.
Which one is more biblical?
Because only one is offensive to almost half the Protestant congregation.
Yeah.
The people who buy these courses.
This is a bigger problem than leftism in a lot of ways because the enemy is inside the house.
And I'll show you this too.
You know, you know, by fruits of the tree.
And I get it.
People can make mistakes and they can be redeemed.
But that's what they're hoping is you get hooked with the Lord can restore marriages.
So someone goes, well, great.
I'm listening.
And none of it is your fault.
He has to do all of it.
Ah, that is as anti-biblical as it gets.
But we can also look at some other banger she has on her profile, like this one about falling for another dude.
Again, very public and describing and embarrassing her husband.
What I wish I knew as a wife in the scene of not wanting sex with my husband, almost divorcing and falling out of love with a man.
I thought she was terrible.
And then the Course in the caption is all about how he needs to do something better.
And then here's another one, by the way, because she wants you to know that she had the Jezebel spirit.
Yes.
And it left her.
What a nice excuse that is.
Yeah, it was.
Oh, I wasn't a skank.
No, no, no.
I was possessed.
Oh, don't shut the hell up.
Don't Jezebel shame me.
I didn't like any of the sex I had.
I don't think about it anymore.
Or the man I fell in love with and never talk about it anymore.
It's Jezebel liberation.
It was Jezebel's fault, not mine.
But then she even shows you, like right now, this Christian woman who offers up these courses or whatever it is, email newsletters.
She wants you to really see the new Christian she is by showing you the transformation of Jezebel leaving her body.
Watch the Jezebel spirit believe me.
I didn't know what I was playing around.
Then I got saved and I became a disciple of Jesus Christ.
Now I can only share the gospel and expose and destroy the enemy's work.
All glory to our Lord and his grace.
Amen.
Your tits aren't the gospel.
Also, I can't.
I only share the gospel.
I feel bad.
I usually don't have to issue a warning if you have children there for a gospel message.
Yeah.
Not typically.
No.
I mean, be warned.
The Jezebel spirits are in the room.
Yes.
You don't see twerking and gospel.
Typically.
Typically not so much.
I mean, even at this point, I'm like, you know what?
Bring back snake handling.
It's better.
Everybody puts on a facade for social media.
We know that because it's not reality.
Here's how the Jezebel spirit really left her body.
See, that doesn't go over as well on the Graham.
I think that was something else.
Or the talk.
But, you know, here's the thing.
If she really did change her ways, remember, like Nala Ray had her OnlyFans open for a long time, I think.
I don't even know if she still does, but until she started her online, her online course.
Yeah.
She was still going to like OnlyFans events and stuff, too.
After being preaching the gospel to proselytize, guys.
Sure.
To proselytize.
Can you imagine if early missionaries, they went in and they're like, well, you know, went in Rome and they're just being cannibals.
Like, how am I going to relate to them otherwise?
Well, I work at the whorehouse and the nunnery.
Yes.
She's one of those brothel nuns.
Yeah.
Plays a mean organ.
Here are examples.
I'll take everything, sister.
Yes.
Here are examples of.
This is still on her Instagram page, you know, right beneath the new newsletter or course you can get on how to tell your husband to woo you back after you've cheated.
This is still there.
Fruits of the Spirit.
Oh.
Couldn't hit the delete button?
Devil horns, literally.
Covered in holy water?
They have a lot of views.
Can't delete them.
Is the remedy Jesus Christ?
Oh, she is possessed.
Yeah.
Maybe she was right.
Oh, that's see-through on these.
That's cool.
Opening inferno ceremony in the sex bomb goddess container.
Wow.
Again, if your kids are watching, they shouldn't be.
Opening Inferno Ceremony 00:04:12
But this is a Bible study.
After she said, the only thing I can share is the gospel.
Yeah.
And my ass cheeks.
Slamming down on stage.
And I behold, a pale ass.
And syphilis followed with it.
And Jesus wept.
Yeah.
You guys, you guys see the problem.
And then you'll get all these, the sisterhood who come out and go, you're a show.
And I said, this isn't a red pill, by the way.
No one here is advocating for promiscuity and going out and sleeping with a bunch of women.
We are saying avoid women like this.
You're no longer safe even seeking in the church.
This is a cancer, to be clear.
Hey, delete those.
I want to show them me and my sin and all.
No, You can talk about it.
What kind of message do you think is being sent out there?
We had an open relationship for a very long time.
By the way, these are all my videos.
Here are my nipples.
Also, here's Jesus.
How about, no, how about we go back to, like, traditionalism really needs to make a comeback as it relates to faith.
This is a serious problem.
Young women, how many of you believe this?
Is it more offensive to you for sweat shaming and for false prophet shaming if that applies here?
Like, it's just, it's just evil.
This is evil straight from the pit of hell.
Everything she says is wrong.
And just so you know, it's always the man's fault.
And to me, it's not even the promiscuity of her past that is the bothersome thing.
It's the fact that she leaves it up there and then says all the stuff about how she left and how God saved her marriage and here, oh, by the way, buy it.
Buy the course.
You know, I have 4,000 followers.
Hopefully one of you buys my course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We shouldn't have to wonder if your conversion is genuine.
Yeah.
And now more are fake than not.
Well, and we have strong evidence.
And this was a critique.
I don't remember what conference it was, but when Nala Ray went and spoke, was it at the TPUSA Women's Conference last year?
Was it?
She was scheduled for it.
I don't know if she, if she was there because there was a lot of criticism about her and other things.
And I'm just like, guys, what are we doing here?
Like, she's selling classes online.
I don't, listen, I don't care if the conversion is 100% genuine.
Like you said, you sit in the pew for a little while.
You have a little bit of seasoning and time.
Like we've gotten away from that.
How many pastors do we need to see rise to stardom and fall?
How many people do we need to see come into Christ and then run away from it because they don't have any idea what it is?
We cannot put these people out there and we cannot listen to them as experts on Christianity.
And I think the problem, Stephen, is that you're pointing out is that the Protestant church doesn't know how to distinguish between somebody who's seasoned and somebody who should be listened to and somebody who's doing just like this because they're like, it feels good.
So therefore it must be real.
Get them on stage.
Let's hear that fresh testimony.
The problem is the Protestant church fears feminism.
They think it's a foe they can't overcome.
They're afraid of it because it's the women of the church who bring kids to Sunday school.
It's the women who get involved and overly involved in many ways.
And they're afraid of losing them.
They're afraid of offending them.
And so these testimonies are brilliant.
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine genuinely any church that would host a man who had his old Chippendales video still up saying, I divorced my wife, cheated on her, but you know what?
She really put in the work and I was willing to give her a second chance.
Can you imagine that man's testimony at a church?
No.
Not even the church leadership.
The men in the congregation would not allow it.
No.
They would boo him or run him off the stage by any means necessary.
Yeah.
The problem is the Jezebel spirit has been taking over the modern Christian Protestant church.
And you can't blame secularism when you have failed your people in trying to moderate, in trying to pander to an audience who, by the way, will never actually care about the gospel and the truth.
They actually are repelled by it.
And so they turn God into an idol.
They turn God into an idol.
They worship a false God because it makes them feel better.
And go to tnusa.com or call 1-800-958-1000 to get a 100% free consultation because don't get piped on taxes.
It's almost as bad as a subversion of the church.
I am repelled by paying more in taxes.
Rhode Island's Gun Violence Tragedy 00:14:54
Me too.
So am I. How dare they?
I always wish everyone like I'm going to do it this year.
I'm going to protest.
I'm not going to pay my taxes.
I'm like, I don't want to go to jail.
And you call me like, Charlie, we got to.
We're going to go to software.
Don't let me get Mike Tyson.
No, you can do your taxes.
Just lie.
No, no.
This is really take DNUSA off the way.
You can't say that.
No, no, that was a softball.
You're supposed to go, no, Josh, that's dumb.
Call Tax Never Kill.
You're going to go to jail.
You're going to go.
Right, right, right.
Gerald Panicks.
That's the beauty of Foundation.
It's the only other company I write about.
Foundation Daily.
No CEO is going to disapprove the ads because it's me.
Oh, boy.
Oh, he already tried.
He already tried to disapprove one.
It's not happening.
No, it's not.
We can do anything.
All right.
This is a story right now.
It's a story that's, it's everywhere in the news and for good reason.
Yesterday in Rhode Island.
Well, the tally of trans shooters increased to eight since 2018 and two within the last week.
Yeah.
Two within the last week.
So that's the new tally.
It has nothing to do with trans, though.
No, no.
Now, let me go through those, for those of you who missed it, references available link in the description.
2018, Aberdeen, trans shooter killed four.
2019, Highlands Range, Colorado, trans shooter killed one, injured four.
Colorado Springs in 2022, the non-binary shooter, I include it.
A lot of these other stats don't killed five at a gay nightclub.
2023, Nashville, of course, you remember Audrey Hale, Covenant School.
2024, Perry, Iowa, gender fluid shooter, killed one, injured five at high school.
2025, Minneapolis, Minnesota, the trans shooter killed two, injured 29 at Annunciation Church.
And then 20, well, yeah, this is 2026, Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia.
The trans shooter killed eight, injured 25 at home, and of course at the Tumblr Ridge Secondary School.
And now you can add to that list.
Now, this technically wouldn't be a mass shooting, but I'm going to include it as relevant because the left does it.
They massage these numbers anyway.
This brings us to Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
This is the moment gunshots rang out at a high school hockey game in Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Student athletes and people in the stands fleeing for safety.
It was a bang.
I thought it was a pops.
I thought it was balloons at first, but it was not balloons.
In the end, two victims and the suspected shooter were dead.
Three others were left in critical condition.
Police say a brave bystander was able to subdue the gunman and prevent even more bloodshed.
A Good Samaritan stepped in and interjected in this scene, and that's probably what led to a swift end of this tragic event.
Police identifying the shooter as 56-year-old Robert Dorgan, who also went by the name Roberta.
Right.
So a couple of things here.
I'm going to get to who this person is, what we actually know, dispel maybe some of the fake news out there.
This, I guess, would fall under the reverse Nirvana fallacy where people on the left would say, well, we haven't had a huge number of trans shooters.
We haven't had a bunch of men in women's sports.
That used to be in the changed my mind in 2016.
It's like, well, okay, just because this hasn't been the norm yet, you are assuming that it'll all be great.
We're looking at warning signs and saying, well, considering the comorbidities, considering the domestic violence rates, considering the suicidal ideation and attempts at suicide that are seen nowhere else in nature, maybe these people are showing us some warning signs as to mental instability, and we don't actually want to accelerate it.
And now we are seeing these acts of mass violence occur at a very rapidly accelerating rate.
It's hard to find empirical data on that because the powers that be don't want you to.
So first, who is this man?
Robert Dorgan also goes by Roberta Dorgan.
So Robert Roberta Dorgan.
Not to be confused with Roberta Dorgan, noted boxer of the infamous No Cox debacle fight.
It was shameful for the people of Panama.
The family.
There are enough people around who remember Roberto Duran.
He's okay with it.
The family says that the shooter targeted other members of his family and that, surprise, had mental health issues.
I'm not sure if they sort of uncouple the mental health issues, like had mental health issues aside from being, you know, trans and believing that he was something that he couldn't possibly be.
I'm not sure, but this is how it was described.
My father was a shooter.
What happened?
He shot my family.
And he's dead now.
This woman leaving the police station, speaking with reporters, saying her father was the one who opened fire inside of the hockey ring.
He has mental health issues.
Any idea why he would have done this?
He's sick.
He's very sick.
Yeah, clearly.
Yes.
And this has been going on for a while.
So 2019, 2020, Dorgan underwent gender reassignment.
surgery.
The father-in-law threatened to kick him out of the home.
He called him a slur and he threatened to have him killed by an Asian street gang.
Wow, oddly specific.
But quickly changed his mind once he saw said Asian street gang.
All right, boys are going to rock him tonight.
I would have just pushed him over there.
Tonight now.
And our guest is back down.
It's funny that.
No, no, no.
I'm kidding.
It's funny that we have to say this, and there's an argument over this person being mentally disturbed.
Now, the argument takes place over, like I said, if this person was mentally disturbed, regardless or in spite of this transgenderism.
Once upon a time, you would have gone, well, here's a picture.
So clearly mentally disturbed, right?
See how the lipsticks up the cheek?
That's what it would have been.
Look at this picture.
See?
This boy's sick.
She?
Shick in the head.
She?
That's what it would have been if James Cagney was the one presenting it.
But let me just ask you, does this person look normal to you if you knew nothing else?
Goodbye, P-Ness.
Ooh, ooh.
Goodbye, penis.
Goodbye, penis.
I'm getting rid of you, penis.
Sometimes I'm trying to avoid copyrighted.
It turns out better than this other person.
But what I also do find funny about this particularly disturbed transie is that they decided to do spreads that looked like an early 90s moto mag.
Like that is their niche in front of the Lambo, you know, in the female thong, in front of the motorcycle.
Right on the heels, by the way, of his upcoming Motocross special on Disney Plus.
People on audio, you're missing out.
In none of those photos did he look like he was doing anything Latina.
No, no, he did not.
Yet his name is Roberta.
Yeah, I don't know.
Roberta.
I like the name.
It's a very manly name.
Say it loud.
There might be no shrinking.
That's gone.
So let me outline.
I've gone the rest of my life without seeing him in a thong.
I know, but you didn't.
But yeah, now you get that.
So legacy media.
Let's go to them.
As of the time of this broadcast, or at least when we started, several outlets made no mention of the trans ideation here after it was well known, meaning it was reported everywhere else on new media, you know, social media and confirmed.
So places that didn't mention it at all, because even though their job is to inform you, they didn't think this was pertinent information.
The New York Times, CBS, Politico.
Since the identity has been revealed, there's been no mention from on social media.
The Krastenstein brothers, Harry Sisson, Brooklyn Dad, David Hogg, Hassan Piker, no mention of it, because it's not relevant.
It's not relevant, even though this is the second in a week.
And this is the thing that matters too.
I understand.
It's not lost on me.
I understand that there are domestic disputes.
I understand, you know, once upon a time, the expression going postal, someone just had it and snapped.
Those do happen.
And sometimes they're a white male.
That would be most common, you'd imagine, because it's the largest demographic in this country.
The reason that it matters if it's an Islamic terror attack or the reason that it matters if it involves a trans individual is because these people have told you their ideology.
You don't have to go to the detective work of figuring out the motivation when they tell you.
There are plenty of outliers and there are plenty of single incidents of violence.
Probably more.
They're probably more numerous because they happen more frequently.
Heat of the moment, right?
Passion crimes.
But as far as ideologically motivated crimes, if there's a pattern, that is important information if your duty is to keep the public informed and safe.
Does that make sense?
You guys can comment below.
And we'll be back tomorrow as we are every day, 11 a.m. Eastern.
Just tune in live.
We still do this show live and we can talk about it.
Here is the Rhode Island governor, Dan McKee, addressing this.
Again, his job is to inform his citizens, make sure are there any other threats?
What would keep you safe?
Focused on gun violence, no mention of the outlying condition of the suspect.
Our state is grieving again.
As governor, a parent, and a former coach, my heart breaks for the victims, families, and everyone impacted by the devastating shooting at Lynch Arena in Pawtucket.
I want to talk to the families out there right now.
Too many Rhode Islanders know what it feels like to lose a loved one, a neighbor, or a friend to gun violence.
And a tragedy like this is incredibly difficult for people of any age to process.
Today, we are praying for Rhode Island and those who are suffering from this tragedy.
Well, good.
You have all the need to knows.
You can thank your governor, Rhode Islanders.
Let's go through some of the claims that are out there right now and narratives that people are trying to champion.
Here's the first narrative or narrative claim.
He did it because of Nick Fuentes or Thomas Massey or Alex Jones or something.
Here's the truth.
He did it because he's a lunatic.
And how do I know he's a lunatic?
I've seen pictures.
That's enough.
Yeah.
But there's more.
Yeah.
And here's something else.
He may, by the way, be a fan of some right-wing commentators.
I'm sure if you took all the trans shooters, and there are many, if you took all of the violent trans people, some would like country, some would like hip-hop, they all like share.
I'm sure you would see that.
But that's not what unites them.
You know what is most important?
Well, the good news is you know what's most important because the left has defined it as gender identity.
This person is a lunatic because of their identity.
How is it described?
Gender identity.
You made it central to their identity, not us.
It's not a preference.
It's not just something they do in their off time.
It's not a hobby.
It's their central identity.
You have nonprofits to preserving, protecting, and spreading said identity.
That needs to be addressed before the podcast that he may or may not listen to.
And also, it's misleading by itself.
Let me give you this X conversation that involves those players who are being mentioned.
So Kevin Sorbo posted this.
He posted, Tim McBride is a man.
Community note this if I'm wrong, okay, about that person.
You remember Tim McBride?
The shooter, Roberta, as he likes to be called, wrote, keep bashing us, but do not wonder why we go berserk.
And that also, by the way, stems from feminism, right?
It's not your fault.
Someone made you feel, therefore, if you go berserk, well, that's on them.
Then Alex Jones in the same thread referred to Sarah McBride as so creepy.
The shooter said, shut the F up, Alex.
Don't be so butthurt over somebody different.
Then wonder why trans people go effing berserk.
Seems to like that phrase.
He loves the berserk element of it.
All caps.
Yeah.
And so that, I would say, is a sign of instability.
Also dressing in ladies' panties, also mutilating your body.
Also, just before you get to this, before you get to this, like the buzzword out there is narcissist.
That's what all these women will say.
Like, yeah, where are you in a relationship with a narcissist?
And that means like if a guy combs his hair, how about a guy who gets off on people seeing him in a dress and he's willing to sacrifice his family?
The leftist said that's a virtue, by the way.
It goes back to feminism.
It goes back to eat, prey, love.
You can go just leave your folks.
Just leave your abandon your family.
As long as you're finding yourself spiritually across India, which, by the way, is bereft of any spirituality.
They poop wherever it falls, to be clear.
So now it's, hey, how I feel is more important.
We mock things that used to be seen as virtues, right?
It used to be like, hey, stay together for the kids.
Then people go, oh, what?
So we're supposed to stay together for the kids.
Well, if the choice is that, or leaving and getting a sex change operation and then living a life of complete depravity, why is it so silly for people to stay together for the kids?
Why is the notion so silly of, you know what?
It's not about me.
It's not about me.
That's how it used to be, you know, under patriarchy.
It's not about me.
We're going to stay together for the kids.
Okay, we'll have some twin beds and, you know, we'll just keep this cordial if that's the best that you can do.
Two, I don't like it, so I'm leaving.
I'm going to follow my truth.
And would we see this kind of mindset manifest itself in other statistical realities that tell us we are going the wrong direction?
Well, let's look at the transgender, whatever it is, domestic violence, the relationship stat.
So 43% of those in trans relationships admitted perpetrating intimate partner violence.
Ooh, that seems pretty high.
That's a lot.
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43%.
That's higher than the false bill of goods that feminists sold you.
Well, back in the day, men used to just come home and beat all their wives and nothing was done.
It was never true.
It was a small minority.
That's where whipping post comes from because it was never acceptable to beat women.
There were men who did it.
It was never acceptable.
You didn't get a 43% rate.
That's admitting to perpetrating it.
That's admitting.
That's not admitting to being a victim of it, which you'd think would be higher.
But you'd think that number would be a lot lower for perpetrators.
Like, hey, I didn't do that.
But no, they willfully admit it.
I would also, I would wager that if 43% admitted it, probably more have done it.
Yes.
That's what, yeah, exactly.
Not everybody admits to their crimes.
Yeah.
It appears.
Yeah, I smacked a bitch.
He deserved it.
Also, 42% of trans adults have attempted suicide.
81% have thought about suicide.
56% have engaged in non-suicidal self-injury.
31% have drug abuse or substance abuse problems.
And again, the suicide or attempted suicide rates don't really get any better after having an operation.
Keep in mind, keep in mind, I said that's because of the mistreatment.
It's higher than, and I've been making this point for years.
It's higher than Jews in Nazi concentration camps.
It's higher than American slaves.
It's higher than blacks under Jim Crow laws.
You think they're treated more poorly?
The only other place where you can find a rate that even approaches this, paranoid schizophrenics.
And even then, it's debatable.
And this isn't to make fun or to tease.
This is concerning that medical professionals aren't allowed to practice medicine the proper way and they're not allowed to give these people treatment.
They're supposed to just go, yep, yep, yeah, sure.
Affirm, affirm, affirm.
You're not crazy.
Yep, a background check for a gun, totally fine.
Go shoot up your family in an ice hockey rink.
Anytime a guy is looking at like doing something that's a little different, you look around to your friend group, like, okay, is this acceptable?
Can I wear this color shirt or something?
It's pink.
I don't know if my friends are going to mess with me.
Something small like that.
I want every trans person in America when they look around to the friend group, they find loving people that tell them the truth that that is not okay.
Something is wrong.
That is not who you are.
I don't want them to find safe quarter because then they end up like this person.
If they had had somebody earlier on say, hey, look, this is not the way to go, instead of, hey, this is just how they feel.
You got to let them go through this.
No, you don't, because it's not just their gender.
They actually have a mental disorder.
I want every single person.
This is the problem, too, with people on the right who go, well, you can do whatever you want as an adult.
I have said that in individual interactions on, you know, let's say an acquaintance basis, I'll use the name that you legally have because at that point, I probably don't even know what your other name is.
But I'm not going to act like you are the gender that you claim to be if you very clearly are not.
I don't believe adults can do whatever they want to do so long as you stay away from kids because I believe you have no legacy on it.
I believe, as everyone did up until the DSM 5, every single person who identifies or claims to be transgender needs to be classified as having a mental illness.
That's the only solution.
That's it.
Some way, some way.
And treat it the same way you would treat any other mental illness.
You comment if you think that's too harsh.
And by the way, doesn't mean that I hate you.
I don't hate people who are bipolar.
I don't hate people who are schizophrenic.
I've known people, I don't hate people who are drug addicts.
They're very hard to get along with, but I don't hate them.
And I would be willing to try and help you get some assistance.
I am not going along with this.
I have not gone along with this.
We, as a society, need to declare trans mental illness.
It's not allowed in public spaces.
These are people who get a sexual thrill, get a sexual thrill through being seen in ladies' clothing.
This guy didn't even try, by the way.
No, I'm sure this guy went from his cycle of steroids to I'm a trick.
Yeah, and then he's wearing a lady's thong and a bra for some reason.
What's the bra about?
Yeah, it's a little ambitious.
This is where we are.
This is where we are.
There'll be more information that comes out.
Hey, hey, was it what I want to make sure I get these right so that they don't sue me?
It was, was it CBS, Politico, New York Times?
CBS, Politico, New York Times.
No mention, none.
Hey, maybe we can go in there and also see if they have write-ups about domestic violence in trans households and really in lesbian households.
That's the only other place where it's really high.
Maybe we can see if they write about the suicide rates.
Maybe we can see if they write about the self-harm rates.
Maybe we can see if these same places write about the comorbidity rates that you see with no other mental illness.
Maybe they do that.
I'm willing to bet that they don't.
You would think that the feminists and the left would be, you know, all on board on these studies.
Like, hey, we need to learn about this.
Yeah, you would think so.
But they can't.
And you'll get some women, the J.K. Rowlings, who go, well, I guess I'm a turf because you're taking over women's spaces.
Yeah, but here's the thing: you need to go full conservative.
Otherwise, you are of no value.
Because guess what?
To try and roll back the trans thing, but then continue with all the other feminist bullshit takes us nowhere.
You, you bitch about patriarchy.
It's what protected women from this because women cannot protect women from men.
It's not a thing.
That's why we had me too.
That's why feminists complain about rape culture.
And not in the same way regarding men.
Women cannot protect women from men.
Only men can.
And men this entire time.
Let's go through it.
Every single piece of feminist messaging.
Women's sexual liberation.
You know what the dads were saying?
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
I don't care if you have birth control.
Don't do that.
How's that working out for you?
OnlyFans.
Men going, wait a second, trans, hold on, I don't want them in women's spaces, kicked out of the PTA meeting, fired, hate speech.
You look at the voting block.
Until it hit a little too close to home, the majority of women thought, it's fine.
And even half of women thought, yeah, yeah, we can let them compete in sports.
It doesn't affect anybody.
Only when it negatively affects their feels.
A woman cannot protect women from the transgender ideology any more than a woman can protect another woman from an angry 250-pound rapist on PCP.
It's not possible.
Patriarchy, as you define it, protected you from these animals.
And I say that in no uncertain terms.
The animals have to go back to where we house animals, prisons or mental institutions until they are reformed and no longer animals.
And it doesn't need to be a mass shooting.
It doesn't need to be a shooting.
It just needs to be something that violates basic foundational principles of our country that women have the right to be protected from men.
And it's men's job to do it.
But by God, men are afraid to do it.
Now, why?
Well, because we've been told, sit down and shut up.
If you want us to stand up for you, then guess what?
You're going to have to acknowledge that there's only one person who can stand up for you.
There's only one group who can.
And you don't get to put them back on the shelf when you're no longer facing a threat.
It's like having a pilot, you know, having a plane in the hangar.
You don't need it all the time, but when you need it, you need it.
That's men.
That's patriarchy.
They're the ones who've been fighting this for a very long time.
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Yes.
And I know we're going, I know we're getting our guest on.
So let me just introduce some people out there if you're not familiar.
So this next lady who we're going to have on the show, Sarah Rogers, she is the Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy since October 2025, I believe.
So she's really kind of in charge of informing sort of foreign bodies, foreign publics of the State Department policy.
So almost like an ambassador type role, to be clear.
And she's really been championing freedom of speech.
I know we covered this yesterday, the RSF list as far as freedom of the press index.
And did you say that we have her on?
I believe so.
I believe we have her on.
So please, what you can follow her undersec PD on X.
But let's welcome for the very first time the Undersecretary of State, Sarah Rogers.
Oh, sorry, Ms. Rogers, your mic was muted there.
I don't know if we can hear you one second there, noodles.
Can you, does she need to unmute her mic?
It appears to be unmuted on our end.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Maybe.
Unfortunate.
All right.
Well, then, how about this?
You work with her there, and I'll, sorry, one moment, Ms. Rogers.
We'll get you going.
I'm going to read actually some statements from you as we get ready.
So she's made quite a name on X with some heaters out there like this one she wrote.
Germany infamously retains very few Jews, yet imported barbarian rapist hordes.
As an American, I'm allowed to call them that, under Merkel.
Even today, Germany suppresses political opposition who point this out.
It's hilarious that she's like, as an American, I can actually say this, like, as opposed to your citizens who cannot say this.
And we just, we just covered this yesterday.
This is very important because it's central.
It's foundational to our actual freedom of the press, the First Amendment.
I wanted to play this clip that Sarah Rogers recorded while she was in Europe in December.
I got off my European train and checked into my European hotel and noticed that a member of European Parliament called Helmut Bronstetter tweeted, quote, There's no censorship in Europe.
Everyone has to follow our rules.
Well, I'm traveling here on a diplomatic passport, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to say a few things that ordinary Europeans can't by revisiting some remarks for which people in Europe and also the UK have been investigated or arrested or jailed by their governments over the past few years.
Similarly, a British woman was dragged out of her bath by 11 police officers after she referred in a private text message to a man who allegedly violently assaulted her as, quote, a faggot.
And victims of violent crime aren't the only people who lack free speech rights in Europe.
In Sweden, an activist called Erasmus Paladin was jailed after he burned a Quran and referred to Islam as gay Islam.
Finally, in Germany, a man faced a criminal investigation for referring to Green Party leader Ricardo Lang as quote fat.
There would be more I could go on.
And I will say I appreciate her creative choices there.
Yes.
Because usually you would go in order of least offensive to most offensive.
Yes.
Fat.
I'm quoting other people here, as she was.
Gay Islam, and then faggot.
But she led with faggot, which I very much appreciate.
It was the pause, the delivery was perfect.
Yeah.
Faggot.
I like the way she did it.
She set the tone.
It was, you know, the most extreme.
You know, then even this.
Even this.
You know, this they got in trouble for it, but even fat.
Yeah.
You can't say fat.
And it's literally what you are.
Yeah.
If you are not skinny, you are fat.
Yeah.
It's well, we can't say that because we had fat pride, but we also, by the way, had an obesity epidemic.
And also all those prideful fat people.
Well, they discovered it was Empic, and they're not proud anymore.
Well, they're proud now, but of being skinny.
Yeah, so I don't really think these people understand what free speech really is.
No, no, they don't at all.
They don't.
And this is why we talked about this: you know, Reporters Without Borders, the Press Freedom Index.
They have us.
Where do they have us right next to?
They had Estonia number two.
They had us right next to Sierra Leone.
That's right.
Sierra Leone.
We are just worse than Sierra Leone.
The free press.
What?
So stupid.
Think of the era that we're living in.
Yeah.
Where some people out there actually believe that we have less press freedom than the place that has, I mean, just record number of journalists being killed for covering killing.
God, I hope there's a retarded leftist out there somewhere going, you know what?
I got to move to Sierra Leone.
Yes.
Yes.
You know, I can't say the things I want to say here.
Yeah.
So I'm going to go to Sierra Leone.
Well, and you know, like all the hate speech stuff that was being talked about, all the bannings, all the shadow bannings, all the demonetizations, that was all going on under it.
Primarily, let's look at the Biden years.
Under the Biden years, we're only two spots better.
It doesn't matter what we do.
There's no way they're going to ever, like you said, it's just as far left as you can go.
And if we don't go as far left as they are, then we have no freedom.
And it's like, well, that's actually not the case.
No.
We just don't arrest our citizens for private text messages.
Can't imagine that.
Imagine you send a private text messages, private text message, and you're like, I think that guy might be a fact.
And the next thing you know, you're being hauled out of the bath naked by 11 police officers.
Yeah.
That happened in Great Britain.
And it's just no small thing.
Insane.
Because the left goes, yeah, but they have free health care.
They're more free.
Yeah, but they have more vacation time.
I think Cuba was rated ahead of us.
I think Cuba was like in the top 100.
Here's a really important question because I also see these people, these black pillars, who, you know, because they've kind of gotten in bed with populists, even like Bernie Sanders.
I've even seen people talking about universal basic income and kind of using the talking points of the left.
Let me ask you this genuine question.
Would you trade or would you accept a scenario where if you say the wrong thing, you can be hauled out of the bathtub by 11 officers, for example, like fat via text, like fag via text.
Would you trade that for more government-subsidized paternity and maternity leave?
Would you make that trade?
Yeah.
Would you make that trade?
Would you trade being jailed, for example, like doing a cover of kung fu fighting because it's a violation of hate speech?
Would you trade, all right, I'll take the jailing for offensive speech if I get socialized healthcare?
Would you trade it?
Would you trade your Second Amendment rights for free internet like Germany?
Would you make that trade?
These are questions that really help you define where you line up.
And a lot of people act as though they are on the right, and they're not because they would make that trade.
And I know that we have technical difficulties with our guests.
So do you want to let me know when you're talking about that?
I don't know.
Yeah, we'll do that.
She's trying to call back in in just a minute.
We're trying to figure out maybe you're in airplane mode.
Maybe check that setting just to make sure that we can get it.
It was working fine just a little while ago.
So sometimes this happens.
I apologize for that.
But as soon as we get her back on, we'll do that.
But we can take some chat or, you know, I did want to make one quick point about the free speech thing that these countries are arguing.
And we said this here in the United States a long time ago.
And when Pam Bondi came out and made some comments about hate speech, we immediately jumped on those comments, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you have to understand what you're saying because there lies the path to not having free speech.
Right.
And that's what Europe has done.
They're like, no, we have, what are you talking about?
We have free speech here in Europe.
That's what they were saying.
No, no, they argue they have more.
They go, we have more freedom of speech because people aren't afraid of being offended.
People aren't afraid of being marginalized.
So really, when speech is limited, that actually means that speech is more free.
Right.
Exactly.
That's what they say.
It's like, what?
They laughed at us and they were like, yes, of course, unless it's hate speech.
And I'm like, yes, but who defines that?
Nobody ever asks the follow-up question, like, who defines that?
Because that is a moving target.
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Anybody can take that and run with it, even with the purest of motivations.
It does not take long before everything is hate speech.
Right.
And now you have no leg to stand on because you never had free speech to begin with.
Yeah, you might say you shouldn't say faggot.
Fine, granted.
But fat.
That makes people say it more.
Yeah, fat was the one that's just like, that's insane.
To me, that is the craziest one.
Because faggot, yes, it can be hurtful.
People take it as a really bad, insulting, hurtful thing.
And I get it.
Fat?
You are it.
What do you want me to say?
Like, I'm never offending somebody calls me.
The only time I've offended somebody calls me fat is if they're not funny about it.
Right.
You're fat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was there an insult there?
Or were you just describing?
I also have brown hair.
What are you going to do with that?
Is it brown?
I guess it's not.
It's dark brown.
It's kind of black.
It's really dark brown.
It's really.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's grab some chat while we're waiting for our guest here.
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Let's grab some chat.
Noodles.
Mr. Noodleshammer.
All right, first chat from...
It's got to be his name now, right?
Yes.
First chat from Wandering in Exodus.
Question for the crew.
How do I deal with the burnout of countering the media talking points to coworkers and friends?
I've proven points so many times and still they default to talking points.
I live in Virginia.
If these are people where you're revisiting these conversations, and I probably should do a better job of explaining this to you, there's rhetoric, there's debate, and there's trying to eliminate the continuation of a conversation.
So the first time you speak with these people, use a Socratic method.
Try and get them to rationalize their position.
Try and walk through the reason process.
Then if you find them continuing to use the same talking points, well, they don't have ears to hear, just find the shortest, most direct path to shutting it down and move on dismissively.
Like just do that.
That's what you do.
Well, why do you think that?
Let's take any position.
Like you go, oh, it's a second.
So why do you think we should limit Second Amendment rights?
What do you base that on?
And they'll often, if they're willing to have this conversation, they'll find out it's based on nothing most of the time.
But if it's someone with whom you've already had this conversation, you just go, yeah, well, you know, 15 to 25,000 homicides a year with firearms versus 2 to 3 million defensive uses.
It's not even close.
So I'm done with it.
And you may not like it, but private ships had the right to use cannons.
You can go read the letter of mark and appraisal from, I believe it was Jefferson or Madison.
You can find it.
Yeah.
If they say, oh, yeah, it's just for muskets, except for the pepper box revolver, except for the Gatlin gun, except for the Girondoni air rifle.
No, none of that stuff holds any water.
You just don't like guns.
That's fine.
You just don't like guns.
I support the Second Amendment.
High five, move on.
That's what you do once you've had the conversation.
It's an exercise.
Or you draw your pistol on them.
Yes, you do.
I'm just kidding.
Don't do that.
That was all that was in general.
No, no, you meant like with a marker.
Like you draw it on their face.
Yes, draw.
Yeah, I meant with a pistol.
Get a whiteboard.
Get a pistol, put a marker in the barrel, and then go on the whiteboard.
Now, I want to make sure, too, that people don't delude yourself either.
Or delude?
Delude.
Don't do that and say, well, I've made the case when you really haven't made the case.
Right.
When you really haven't done a good job of articulating the point.
Because a lot of times we think, well, it's because you know it, you think you're communicating it and you're not.
Make sure you're doing a great job of delivering that point.
If it takes a conversation with somebody who agrees, hey, did I make that point really well?
Because I'm hearing these arguments over and over and I want to do this effectively.
That's the way you do it.
Don't muddle through something and think, well, I gave them the information.
They're just too dumb.
Always assume.
And you're the first part of the problem.
Fix that.
Get it right.
Make sure you do.
And then exactly what you said.
And I hate to be self-promoting here, but that's actually why we created the three and three podcast.
Three key facts in three minutes or less.
There's Department of Education.
There's the Second Amendment.
There's a separate one on gun control.
There's immigration.
I think there's about 15 topics.
And you can go wherever you listen to podcasts.
You can go and listen to them.
Three minutes, three key facts.
We make those references available so you can check them out.
And generally speaking, if you know those three cold, you can make the case.
And that's the end of it.
That's why we designed that.
And it takes three minutes on any given topic.
Let's grab another chat before we go to Rumble Premium, Mr. Noodleshammer.
All right.
Next chat from Caligalli.
Question for the crew.
Should I still go to church if the only churches I can reach accept female ministry?
I'm reluctant to support a church that ignores 1 Timothy 2.
Well, okay, so a couple of things to be clear.
Female ministry, like there can be women's groups where there can be, like, there can be female senior elders, obviously, in charge of women.
But people don't necessarily, people don't like this.
There is no situation in which a woman in the Christian church, in God's church, the one that we believe in in the Bible, is supposed to be an authority over a man.
Just to be clear.
And that's not even just about wives submitting to husbands.
That's about women in church submitting to the authority of men who are called to lead the church.
So that means even if you have a disagreement, it is the duty of a woman to communicate privately with the man so that he may advocate on her behalf.
And that is to discourage a spirit of chaos and of gossip where the same thing happens with men, by the way.
Men are told, we're commanded to have designated leaders who will speak on behalf of us and to represent us so that you kind of have a conclave, you have a huddle, and then one person determines the direction because that exists in any other structure of hierarchy in nature, whether it's the military, whether it's a company, whether it's a sports team, you have a coach, you have a captain.
So I would say, first off, be really sure that those are the only churches you can reach.
And second, I understand your grievance.
And I would say, hey, you could probably find a church online at that point.
There are some churches now that exist online that then have groups in your area.
Look for something like that.
But I don't think that you're wrong to have a crisis of conscience and to say it's inconsistent and to look for something different.
I think that's actually well advised.
Yeah, I 100% agree.
There should not be.
And listen, I'm sorry if this offends people, but this is just biblical gospel.
Like, just there shouldn't be female pastors.
I'm sorry.
That's just not, that's just not how God set up his church.
It's not like saying you're less than we've had different roles, different responsibilities.
We're held to different account for different things.
And so that's how God set it up.
You have a problem with that.
Take it up with God, not me.
I'm just communicating the message.
Also, maybe it's an opportunity if there are enough people that think like, hey, there's no actual male-led churches around me.
Maybe it's time to start one.
And I'm not for starting a bunch of churches.
I think there's too many churches in some cases because people split over every single possible thing and then move on.
So I'm like, but maybe in this case, there is.
Maybe there's an opportunity for you guys to do that in your area if you really, truly can't find something that's male-led.
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