Nov. 26, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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| But who are the people of God? | |
| Who is the true son of Abraham or who are the true sons of Abraham? | |
| One guess would be that you had the liberalizing of all the Protestant mainline churches when a lot of really wealthy people, I've done some deep research into this. | |
| For example, the Rockefellers put a lot of money into buying and funding seminaries. | |
| And they would actually decide who would be kind of the chair of this and that, the dean and so forth. | |
| And they specifically, through people like Fosdick and others, wanted to liberalize Protestantism to be a tool of social gospel. | |
| So that work. | |
| That worked for them, not for the people that are in it. | |
| Well, it worked to liberalize the mainline Protestant denominations very well, particularly Presbyterians and mainline Methodists and Lutherans. | |
| And then I think what happened was that those groups kind of quit caring about this kind of biblical theology because they become basically social justice warrior organizations. | |
| All the churches are with the feminism and the Skittles gay stuff. | |
| I'm so used to the codes that we had. | |
| Do you remember during, like, I mean, you guys know about the censorship, right? | |
| Like, I mean, we would just step on rakes every other day and just figure it out. | |
| I guess we'd get some strikes or whatever. | |
| Guess I can't quote the CDC. | |
| I was always coming up with these creative codes, right? | |
| So we'd have like, COVID is Koof instead of, well, that's from a meme, but the gay stuff is Skittles, right? | |
| So anyway, speaking in codes in this dystopia, but the first time I heard grape, I was like, what the hell? | |
| Oh. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Got it. | |
| Good example. | |
| So I think that they kind of quit caring about biblical theology. | |
| So the only people left to care about biblical theology were people who were going into evangelical Baptist seminaries, Dallas Theological Seminary, places like that, which were longtime havens of dispensational type ideology. | |
| And the conservative Presbyterians or Lutherans were just such a minority throughout the decades of the last century that it just, I guess, became dominant that all those universities and seminaries that were evangelical were just bought off or propagandized. | |
| It's interesting. | |
| I'd really like to know. | |
| So if you guys have anybody out there who's been through, you know, kind of growing up evangelical, being a part of the church, how they would explain those verses. | |
| And I haven't really found anybody that gives me a good explanation. | |
| People tend to pivot to other things where they're strong. | |
| And that makes sense in a debate. | |
| Typically, people will, unfortunately, a lot of times run to their strongest points and avoid some of their weaker ones. | |
| That's why I look for people who just acknowledge, hey, I'm kind of weak here. | |
| I did have some back and forth with Dinesh D'Souza, who I think is a dispensationalist. | |
| So I'm always willing to debate Dinesh or whoever if they. | |
| Are you ready to debate Dinesh? | |
| I would, yeah, sure. | |
| Does he want to debate? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm just saying I would. | |
| Come on, Dinesh. | |
| Go out there and debate. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I want like the very best representatives, nothing against Dinesh. | |
| I haven't seen him speak on this subject as much. | |
| I think he talked about it a little bit with Nick Fuentes, maybe or some other. | |
| There may have been another conversation. | |
| He was just going crazy on Twitter about it for like the last several days. | |
| Oh, I thought maybe he like really wanted to have somebody. | |
| Conversation. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I think it needs to happen because look, as Christians, again, know why you believe what you believe. | |
| It's very, very important. | |
| I don't think God has called us to just have a completely uninformed faith. | |
| There is some element of faith not really being, I don't know how to articulate it the right way, but I don't think God minds you proving him out. | |
| Let me put it that way, right? | |
| I don't think God minds that at all. | |
| There's scripture that shows that. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I don't think you have to leave your brain at the door to be a Christian. | |
| I don't think that's never been a part of the equation. | |
| So we can ask these questions. | |
| We can have these conversations. | |
| And we do need to correct some of these issues so that people are not led astray. | |
| And I think having conversations like this, Jay, we're going to have to do this again. | |
| I think we're a little over time right now, but I didn't even get to like feminism in the Protestant church and some of the just a quick story on that. | |
| The reason that I know this exists is not because I'm in up-to-date on feminism and all the effects on society. | |
| It's that when I talked to the church that I worked with that was big, kind of a charismatic church, they said that the consultants came in and told them they needed to redesign their bathrooms because people make a decision on where to go to church based on how nice the restrooms are. | |
| And so they remodeled the restrooms. | |
| Kid you not, the men's looked very much the same as it did before, just with new tile. | |
| The women's became a lavish lounge. | |
| You're marketing to the ladies. | |
| And that's not really what the church is supposed to be about. | |
| And so we'll have to have a conversation on that in eschatology. | |
| And maybe you and Andrew can give me some debate skills and I'll be prepped and ready to go at some point for this. | |
| But Jay, again, tell people where they can find you and where they can find your book. | |
| Yeah, books are available at the shop at jsonalisos.com and they're all signed. | |
| And that's the whole purpose of getting it there and not through Bezos. | |
| And then you can find me on X under J Dyer, J underscore D 007, YouTube, J Dyer, Rockfin. | |
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| Fantastic. | |
| Well, thank you very much. | |
| And thank you for joining us for Gerald Apologizes Apologetics. | |
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