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	All right, so we do have a developing story right now.
	Apparently, there was a big, like a big audio.
	Tell us, Mr. Bench's 315 with poor form accidentally.
	You see those things for those bumper plates, you bitch.
	Those are wheels.
	You idiots, use them.
	I'm not familiar.
	I know.
	You know who's not familiar with the fact that things can be recorded?
	Ollie, the Democrat running for the seat in Tennessee 7.
	There's a special election coming up on December 2nd.
	And she looks like and speaks like every caricature of a white suburban Democrat has ever spoken on just about every issue.
	So whether it's on men being able to have babies or hating the police or hating the city, she's running it.
	By the way, this is the District Trump 1 plus 22.
	They're just trying to get it close so that they can see, say, hey, we're starting to make some inroads.
	The left wants to try to get away from it.
	Exactly.
	So this is OPPO research.
	There's been an oppo dump that's happening right now that we thought would be interesting to pull in some of the audio.
	So let's just hear what she's got to say.
	Afton Ben.
	Afton.
	My therapist always asks me to transcribe my dreams when they happen.
	Me too.
	And the recurring dream I've had is standing up in a cafeteria full of women.
	I don't know why I was there or what happened.
	I don't want children.
	I want power.
	And just screaming it at the top of my lungs.
	And for someone who grew up with my mother telling me, never have kids because people will, you know, you'll have to give up a lot.
	You'll have to sacrifice professionally.
	She loved you.
	She loved you.
	You know, you.
	Where I am now with seeing the consequences and the ramifications of women having kids and being in the political field and what they're able to achieve.
	Being a kid.
	Because we don't offer, you know, it's like the political field hasn't met the challenge of working moms.
	They really haven't.
	Stay on.
	So the deeply patriarchal structures that these women are involved with because they've chosen marriage and they've chosen to raise children.
	And I think in the South, it's incredibly difficult to shake those, especially if you've grown up here and that's all you've been told is the definition of success.
	The metric of success is how many kids you have, the bigger, the square footage of your house.
	Yeah.
	And where your kids go to school.
	Yeah.
	So let me just, and again, I'm receiving this sort of live as it comes in and it's breaking.
	What's most telling to me is, did you listen to her?
	Let's just sort of track with her.
	She identifies a problem and then a solution.
	Okay, so what is she saying?
	This is Tennessee 77, yeah.
	Run through Nashville.
	What's her name?
	Afton Ben.
	Afton Ben.
	The problem is women having children.
	She identifies that as the problem, right?
	The problem with women, she actually said those words, I believe, women having children.
	And the solution is to send women to groom them, to put them on the path into politics so that they're less likely to have children.
	Are you starting to get the picture?
	It started with the soft feminism of, hey, you just need the choice to go into the workforce, which, by the way, there was a huge push from very wealthy people who owned corporations.
	You can go back to the Rockefellers.
	And Rachel Wilson has actually written about this quite a bit because they wanted to get everyone into the labor force so they could have cheaper labor, right?
	And there were campaigns, have a little bit of spending money for yourself.
	Now it's not a choice, it's a problem.
	She is, even though she'll be furious if you make a moral judgment, she just made the moral judgment that having children is the primary problem of Western American society.
	And the solution is to thrust more women into the workforce and politics.
	And think about that.
	Who would be less capable of representing a constituency than a woman who thinks that having children is a problem?
	What that means is that she needs to build enough, as she just said, we need to change the metrics for success that women consider success.
	She needs to create, hopefully, eventually, a constituency of other childless women.
	That's their goal.
	Patriarchy is what we need.
	Why?
	Why did she say patriarchy is a problem?
	Because it's measured the success of women by how they raise their family, how many children they have, how well adjusted they are.
	So she condemns patriarchy because she knows that's the byproduct.
	That's why when I say we need a little more patriarchy, I'm saying the same thing they are.
	They just have a problem with families, nuclear families and children.
	Yeah.
	By the way, just imagine this, like at the end of your life, you know, when we're looking at the ledger of what you've accomplished, they're saying raising, creating life, raising the next generation, supporting the flourishing of society, something that only women can do, is not as good as shuffling widgets and middle management for 40 years.
	Right.
	How in the world, you cannot, I'm sorry, you cannot accomplish anything in your life that will be more beneficial to you and society than having kids, if you can have kids.
	And here's the thing.
	There's nothing you can put on the ledger that equals than raising quality citizens.
	None.
	And here's the thing.
	It's also very clearly anti-God.
	And this is why we have a problem with feminism in the Christian church, because if you look at your church, okay, look at all the women there, statistically, more of them are likely to vote Democrat than if you walk out of your church and look at a group of atheist men.
	At best, it's a wash.
	Now, you might get some men who claim to be Christians who occasionally vote for a Democrat because they're ill-informed.
	But I don't know any men who say, I'm a Christian, but I think we need to do away with the nuclear family.
	And I think that it's a problem that women are having kids and abortion should be free and taxpayer funded.
	No, no, you'll find men who claim to be Christians who find ways to sort of justify things and twist them a little bit to fit their narrative.
	But women will vote Democrat knowing full well that it is the party of women like this who say it's a problem to have children.
	What does the Bible say when we talk about male-female roles?
	Be fruitful and multiply.
	You're supposed to have kids.
	You're supposed to mother.
	Nope, they hate, that's a problem.
	You're supposed to submit to your husband.
	You're supposed to submit to the authority of men.
	You are not to wield any authority over men.
	They hate every single one of God's prescriptions, and far too many self-professed female Christians vote for them.
	There's no coming back.
	There's no coming back from this for women.
	You're seeing even the divide with Gen Z. There's always been a divide where men vote more conservative, women vote more left.
	Women tend to veer more conservative once they have the problem, children and families, but it's still not close to men.
	And you're seeing that it's a chasm between Gen Z males and Gen Z females.
	There's no coming back from this until women start policing their own ranks for the same reason that we can't fix world's strongest woman being a man until enough women rise up.
	But here's the thing.
	Women, you need to rise, and you can't cafeteria Christian this thing.
	You can't cafeteria tradcon this thing.
	Women will go, well, yeah, well, yeah, I want to be traditional.
	But still, I want to be the one out there as a talking head, and I want to be a boss babe as well.
	And I don't want to have to submit to the authority.
	And I'm a powerful woman.
	No, You can't do that.
	It's not going to work.
	You have to buy it wholesale and reject all of the tenets of modern feminism.
	Not enough women are willing to do that.
	So there's actually three more.
	I want to go to clip four if we can.
	So she's running in an area that would encompass Nashville and has some thoughts about Nashville.
	And what's your name, Akrid Ben?
	Afton.
	I like that better, though.
	Afton.
	Okay.
	Is it all Nashville, Gerald, or just a part of it?
	Just a swath of it?
	I don't know exactly, but it runs through Nashville.
	It's an important city right there.
	There we go.
	I've been heavily involved with the Nashville mayoral race because I hate the city.
	I hate the bachelorettes.
	I hate the pedal taverns.
	I hate country music.
	I hate all of the things that make Nashville apparently an itch city to the rest of the country.
	But I hate it.
	Yeah.
	I'm that girl at the airport that all these bachelorettes are giddy walking out in their two-tuned colored pant pink shirts.
	And they walk out and I'm like, they're like, oh my God, Nashville.
	So loud.
	Yeah.
	By the way, she's just saying the quiet part out loud that Michelle Obama could have been caught on a hot mic saying about the United States of America.
	I hate everything about America except for the fact that my husband was elected president.
	Yes, exactly.
	And, well, I mean, you know, she has similar thoughts about the police.
	Oh, wow.
	Let me guess.
	Play the clip.
	Well, I'm currently involved in a transformative justice seminar.
	And so it's how to imagine a world without police and what that looks like and what community methods look like.
	How people can not police themselves, but not for her.
	But for example, if you experience sexual assault, like what is the reconciliation process and what does transformative justice look like?
	More sexual assault.
	You can't take those things to court.
	Like, you know, our legal system is terrible when it comes to retribution.
	So anyways, all that to say is that like, I, you know, I hope all of you, so one, I'll have a podcast on it, and I highly recommend like if it's quite difficult for you to imagine a world without police, please tune in to maybe not this episode, but the next one.
	can look at you and imagine a world without lips i'm learning and growing as an organizer because i think especially for those of us you know that are young like you know talking to our parents about what police abolition looks like that um you know we we can do it and there is a world And by the way, this is just what police abolition looks like.
	She doesn't have any answers.
	No.
	She doesn't have any answers.
	What does it look like?
	Like, if you're raped and we don't have the police.
	It looks like more rape.
	It looks like just more, it's just the rape kit prepares you for the next rape.
	Yes.
	That's all it is.
	And this is.
	Are you going to take Chaz to form a police department and have Second Amendment rights?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It was one or the other.
	We had Raz Simone handing out AR-15s, likely to underage kids at that point in time, or police.
	You can't have borders, no Second Amendment, and no police.
	She has no answers.
	It's just destroy.
	And that's where you see the horseshoe of the left, who I believe is, of course, the single greatest threat to this country.
	The enemy is in the house.
	And then what people sometimes refer to as like the dissident right, meaning people now who are very identitarian on the right, where they also just seek to destroy.
	They just seek to destroy everything.
	Oh, we're just, we're throwing our MAGA hats away and no more Trump.
	And Vance sucks because his wife is Indian.
	And okay, so what's the solution?
	The closest I've heard is creating an alliance between Massey and Roe Conna.
	Yeah.
	No.
	All right.
	So how does that work?
	So that's where they meet and go, yeah, we have no actual solutions and we don't have to actually play in the real world.
	We just say everything sucks and let's destroy it and then sort of let the chips fall where they may.
	This woman has no solutions.
	And it's always those who benefit from the institutions most.
	And what do I mean by that?
	She benefits from the institution of police far more than strong men.
	Matter of fact, you could argue that strong, capable men would probably actually perform better without police.
	Why?
	Because it's might is right.
	And those who have might would have the highest yield, right?
	They just take over whatever they want.
	Those who benefit most from an organized police force, people like her, so that the men with the might don't simply enslave her, which by the way still happens on more slaves than ever in recorded history right now, over 40 million slaves on earth.
	And then she benefits from institutions like higher education, right?
	STEM fields, grants, of course, the affirmative action that also works for women, where they'll thrust them into fields where they shouldn't be.
	Our public education system, which by the way, was designed for women, to be clear.
	Our healthcare system.
	As much as they bitch about, well, men, you know, men get their stuff paid for.
	There's no pink tax on men, they'll talk about because our razors are black.
	We don't pay extra for the rubber grip.
	And your birth control is paid for.
	There's often maternity leave and no paternity leave.
	By the way, I think that's fine.
	I also understand it.
	She benefits most from the institutions, claims to want to tear them down and replace them with nothing.
	Always beware.
	People who seek to destroy and they offer to build nothing in its place or nothing realistic in its place.
	That is all of the left, and it's a very small contingency of the right.
	Just want a police force, but she still wants a hero.
	She still wants a protector.
	She doesn't realize it, and that comes in the form of a man.
	A man has an instinct to protect wives, sisters, daughters, much more so than rape them all, right?
	We have the spirit to protect those.
	She needs that.
	And that's also what allows a woman like her to exist today.
	She's very entitled.
	She's privileged, bereft of virtue.
	Because back in the day, guess what?
	If you were a woman like this, no man would provide and protect.
	No.
	Why?
	Because you're not a virtuous woman.
	Well, why would I want a nag?
	Why would I want someone who simply cackles and complains about everything and bemoans the problem of children?
	That's not a woman I want.
	So she benefits from the institutions now because she would be a woman drummed out of the village not that long ago.
	We have two more clips.
	One more clip of her talking about biology and she's a genius.
	Do we have anything of her mother bemoaning her?
	I don't know.
	We'll find that.
	I think as an organizer and as an activist, like we really have an opportunity here in this country to talk about what type of policy, progressive policies we want to see as young women.
	And I think we have, you know, as birther, you know, as women who can give birth, men and women who can give birth, we could maybe leverage that as collective bargaining, which is the basis of this book that I'm not, I've just started reading, but called Birth Strike.
	Yeah.
	I want to bet you want to finish it.
	We can really leverage collective bargaining when it comes to having children in this country.
	And so, for example, like, I'm not going to give birth until the United States government concedes ABCD.
	What do you think about that?
	We won't.
	And it seems a little much.
	You too can take part in Afrin's favorite things with her unread book club.
	Yes.
	I read the jacket.
	She hasn't finished it, of course.
	I read the foreword.
	By the way, just think of like the words because they're the ones who create this whole word jumble of men, women, male, female, and men who can give birth.
	Birthing.
	Where are they shooting it out of their peehole like a starship?
	This doesn't even work.
	Yeah.
	Cast a kidney stone in a plane once.
	I mean, she obviously isn't going to win.
	I would be very surprised if she won at this point in time.
	Though Nashville is far further left than people often realize it's just close.
	I hope this really elucidates for a lot of people what's going on.
	Listen, I understand.
	Like, try it.
	Try it.
	I mean, I think this encapsulates how she thinks more than anything.
	I don't like what's going on in the government, and so I'm going to form a collective of women who refuse to give birth until the government does XYZ.
	Wait a minute.
	I thought that the family, like the husband and creating children was not something you performed as a service to government.
	It's a function of the community and individual relationships.
	And by the way, do you think that's going to work?
	Do you think that's a really good strategy?
	Let's just give you that you got 50% of the women in the United States to do that.
	Do you know what the men would do?
	Good.
	I know 50% of the women that I want to have nothing to do with and Ukrainianbride.com still exists.
	Just then that.
	They support the hell out of the hot women from Ukraine that want to have a chance at a better life.
	And guess what?
	They'll give us some children.
	Please move wherever you would like where the police don't exist and men get.
	And then women try and mop and go, oh, yeah, passport, bro, because you can't handle a real woman of the West.
	You mean the woman who thinks that men can shoot babies out their peehole?
	Is that what you mean?
	Yeah, you know, I'll take the old tree.
	Yeah, you know what?
	Sign me up as passport, bro.
	What an idiot, dude.
	Like, what an absolute can't handle a real.
	And think about this.
	Even like what we criticized, you know, a little bit, Charlie Kirk, when he did that interview with Gavin Newsom, that he kind of he softballed it a little bit.
	He pressed sometimes, but when Gavin Newsom goes, you know, and like I've always said that, you know, men shouldn't be in women's sports.
	No, you didn't?
	No, he didn't.
	He supported it.
	But here's the thing.
	Even men in the Democrat Party, they still do understand there's a little bit of accountability from other men.
	So Gavin Newsom does feel the need to go, look, I think that this has gone too far.
	Women like that don't.
	She doesn't because no woman's going to go, this is stupid.
	You understand how insane this is, right?
	Women don't police their own in the same way that men do.
	And that comes through a lifetime of whether you're at war with your squad, with your brigade, whatever it is, whether you're on a team, right?
	In the sports team, where you have to play a team sport or just the way guys hang out with each other because men live under the perpetual fear of violence.
	And yes, innately, might is right, where you have your friends with you who you have to count on, who actually have to watch your back physically.
	So you rely on men.
	When you rely on comrades, when you rely on your colleagues, when you rely on your brothers in arms, guess what?
	You also have to face accountability from them because that's the only way you can be reliable to each other.
	Women go through life without that.
	And so they're not aware and they don't fear the accountability from their fellow women that men do from their other male members of the unit.
	That's just reality.
	This woman, I guarantee you, until this blows up in her face, she was blissfully unaware because she was surrounded by a bunch of women going like, that's so great that you read the foreword and said that babies come out men's peeholes.
	I just think it's so brave.
	Maybe you should go into, where was it, Bangladesh?
	No, what country was it in?
	The lady had the guy stop her on the side of the road and whip out his dong.
	India.
	Was that India?
	Sri Lanka.
	Sri Sri Lanka was right near it.
	So why don't you go eat, pray, love your way across the world and report back to us on how all these societies that you would probably say are better than the United States in some ways treat women.
	Yeah.
	This system is set up to protect you.
	You have no idea what it is to live out.
	And that guy had done that before.
	You could just glance left and right and then bam.
	It was his go-to.
	Like, watch, I'm going to do the old pull out the dick and say you want it, Trick.
	5% of the time, it works every time.
	That's right.
	This is the best average penis you have ever seen.
	Yeah.
	Now take away cops and add two other Sri Lankans.
	Guess what?
	You're not getting away.
	You're done.
	You're done.
	And we don't want that for you.
	We don't.
	We set up a system where we sacrifice to protect you.
	Go live outside of it.
	Go have fun.
	The fact that this is even a possibility tells you that there's been a failure of patriarchy.
	That's what it tells me.
	Are these from 2020 of the recordings?
	I thought I saw that date.
	So these are recordings that just kind of have either resurfaced or just been uncovered about her.
	So I don't know that.
	Just getting her start.
	Well, yeah, I mean, because I didn't think it was possible in 2025 to still be this dumb.
	Yeah.
	It's not dumb.
	It's evil.
	That last clip at least does say in 2020.
	Oh, it does?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So maybe she's walked it back now that they've seen the writing on the wall and people aren't buying into the QA.
	She believed it?
	Come on.
	There was no questioning in her voice.
	But she was saying that.
	She was saying that.
	Keep in mind at the exact moment in time where they were accusing the right of being anti-science because we didn't think that lockdowns would work.
	We thought it may have come from a Wuhan lab, right?
	At the exact same time when they were saying, yeah, you anti-science, use horse D-wormer.
	You mean the prescription?
	One of the most used prescriptions on earth?
	You mean ivermectin's out?
	You mean, yeah, you deny science while they say that men can give birth.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	By the way, an anecdote, my grandmother just beat bladder cancer with the help of ivermectin.
	Nice.
	Good for her.
	I'm glad she's great.
	She's doing well.
	Good.
	Horse D-Worm.
	By the way, this is, of course, not medical advice for people out there.
	Did she use any of the fish tank clear?
	Yes.
	Probably not the Laura Klein.
	Yeah.
	She just killed that guy.
	We all know.
	Though I will say, I do find it a little bit funny when, and I've said this before, people go like, oh, red dye.
	And it's like, yeah, it's, I mean, methylene blue is blue dye.
	Yeah.
	That's what it was.
	It was used to dye textiles and it was used like, in other words, the natural fallacy doesn't apply here.
	There are natural chemicals that occur in nature that are beneficial and harmful.
	And there are lab-made chemicals that are beneficial and harmful.
	So people just go, oh, no, this is industrial.
	Well, sure, but avocado oil is not whatever it is.
	Pick it.
	Whatever it is.
	Olive oil technically is industrial because of the way it's pressed.
	It's not bad for you.
	I don't know.
	It's one of those things.
	Like, yeah, yeah, take.
	And by the way, it seems like there's some benefits from methylene blue.
	All right.
	Let's take some chat.
	I don't know if.
	Tomorrow we have the.
	Oh, shoot.
	That's right.
	I'm sorry.
	Tomorrow we have Gerald apologizes profusely, but never enough.
	Gerald apologizes apologetics with Jay Dyer.
	Here is a sizzle reel.
	You have a lot of these directors, a lot of these actors are into satanic cults or super weird stuff.
	And all of that turned out to be real.
	He's one of the best debaters that I have seen, and he covers a wide range of topics from Orthodox Christianity all the way to the occults in Hollywood.
	And that is Mr. Jay Dyer.
	You've written several books, and I think they're all titled Esoteric Hollywood.
	Is it conspiracy theories or is it like really kind of stuff that's going on in Hollywood that we should be more aware of?
	It's all the above.
	The Pentagon, the Military Industrial Complex, CIA, you know, what's actually going on in Hollywood that isn't just intelligence agencies, but also covers cults.
	So the only people left to care about biblical theology were people who were going into evangelical Baptist seminaries, and the conservative Presbyterians or Lutherans were just such a minority throughout the decades of the last century that all those universities and seminaries that were evangelical were just bought off or, you know, propagandized.
	Most people don't know why they believe what they believe.
	Remember that there you go.
	Tomorrow, that's a, you know, you can, that can be a family watch.
	And as I understand, it was a great guy and made some great points.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He does look like a frumpy Don Johnson, though.
	He should have in his shirt.
	He rolled up angles.
	Yeah.
	He's probably so Andrew was actually the guy who turned me on to him and started listening to his debates.
	He's not everybody's cup of tea in how he debates, but he is incredibly, incredibly smart because he started out as a Protestant, converted to Catholicism, and then went into Orthodoxy.
	So he has a very, very, very good understanding of the early church and also a lot of stuff that's happening within Hollywood that relates back to this stuff.
	So very interesting guy.
	He's been on Alex Jones.
	He's been on that network for many, many years doing stuff.
	And that's one thing when people say, you change your mind.
	And I'm not saying at all that I'm a Catholic or Orthodox, but I've been spending time.
	Like, I guess I would probably be closest to a Methodist if I were to, the more I've looked into the theology.
	And the truth is, I took for granted, you know, a lot because we didn't have any churches in Canada.
	You basically had Catholic and then take your pick of any Protestant church because there weren't many.
	Right.
	You could throw a net over all of them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And I do think that even though the theology may be correct, there isn't the preservation mechanism needed in place for a large swath of a Protestant church.
	And that's something that we all need to be aware of because they'll preach from the pulpit like, hey, the propaganda coming from Hollywood.
	I'm going to do an episode on that so people have an understanding of it.
	Because right now, the Protestant church gets lumped into like a thing and it's completely not a thing.
	That's right.
	It is a very, very different thing and why people kind of split up.
	Just to give some history, because I, until I jumped into this and I went to seminary-ish, right?
	I went to Bible school is probably a better word for it.
	And I've spent a lot of time studying theology.
	I had never really gone into a lot of depth on the early church and why Orthodox and Catholicism essentially is a thing and what they split about and why all these different Protestant churches do the things that they do and in the different ways.
	So it's very, very interesting if you're if you're somebody who studies that stuff.
	But yeah, it's not a Protestantism is not a thing.
	Right.
	Well, and I grew up obviously because public schools were Catholic schools.
	So I was very aware of, and again, a ton of great Catholics in this country.
	And I think that we agree on a whole lot more than we disagree.
	I was familiar with that.
	And then sort of broad strokes, Protestantism, largely, we really only had like a Baptist church and a Pentecostal church.
	So I kind of knew about those.
	But pretty much unfamiliar with Orthodoxy because that was just something that the Greeks did in Canada.
	It wasn't really popular here.
	It was almost more of an ethnic.
	It's still not, but it's growing in popularity.
	But it's still very, very small compared to the other kind of you're right to clarify, Gerald, that it's not a thing.
	It's many things.
	Yeah, many things.
	And yeah, we're.
	We had the guy on who wrote the book, Protestantism, the Faith That Won the West.
	Right.
	Very good point.
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't a specific denomination.
	No, but I mean, it's tying it into our history here.
	Like it was Protestants who came over here.
	It was a big thing.
	You know, like it was, they are the ones that came over here and said, hey, we want to get away from all of this stuff.
	We need to set something up.
	Like, you know, Church of England, the Catholic Church.
	Church of America and go, how did we get it?
	Protestants came here and made it.
	Right.
	Well, you were kicked out of the Catholic Church for reading the Bible until 1960.
	Yeah.
	And so that's not a tribe that's going to come over and subdue the earth, right?
	No.
	And press the faith.
	Well, and also because you go from a Catholic, then you have the Church of England.
	And so it's just talk about more, it's more the Protestant spirit of we have a problem with the Church of England, which, by the way, you could even say there's a parallel with Martin Luther, who really had, really would be much more similar.
	You know, people think of him as sort of the original Protestant.
	Of course, the Catholic Church referred to him as a heretic, but he would have much more in common with Orthodox or Catholics than he would with non-denominational churches today.
	So if you look at like the way he wanted to be, he wanted to go back into Catholicism.
	Right.
	Like he wasn't trying to break away and start anything.
	He was trying to reform Catholicism.
	Yeah, then they tried to tried to execute him.
	And he's like, all right, I'm going to go a different direction.
	You know, maybe cutting into our cash.
	Keep moving.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, that's great.
	And that'll be up tomorrow.
	And then we are not going to be here Thursday and Friday, but we'll be back the following Monday.
	So since we don't have a Thursday, it's time for chat Tuesday.
	Ah, check it out.
	...on this show.
	You just don't understand when your mic is on you.
	Oh, I just heard it come booming through.
	So now I know.
	Very flexible.
	We got to turn it on and make it.
	Damn it.
	All right.
	I got a name.
	You smash the keyboard with your palm.
	All right, buddy, but you owe me.
	By the way, I just saw a trailer that like, it's really rare that you see trailers for films now.
	What?
	And they're rebooting Anaconda with Paul Rudd and Jack Black.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yeah, it's like they're going to make a movie.
	They're going to make the movie Anaconda and they lose their Anaconda.
	And so then there's a.
	Actually, if someone wants to bring up the trailer, there is a funny thing.
	I know some people hate Jack Black.
	I think the guy's very multi-talented, but there's a, if you go about two-thirds through the Anaconda trailer, John, Johnny Boy, and I were there in writer's room just laughing our ass off.
	So I'll set it up for you.
	That might be fun.
	They go to the Amazon to reboot Anaconda, but they lose their Anaconda that they bring with them.
	So then they find themselves.
	It's kind of like Tropic Thunder, right?
	In a real Anaconda type scenario.
	And they think Jack Black is dead.
	So they use him as bait and they tie him up to a post with a dead pig on his head.
	And then he wakes up and sees the Anaconda coming for him.
	It's just the way they do it.
	It's pretty funny.
	It might be fun to grab it.
	Yeah, I think I got that.
	Okay, yeah, you could just like, you could rewind it a few paces so we can see it.
	Okay, here.
	We'll do this.
	I'm here.
	Holy sh.
	My Anaconda.
	I keep rolling.
	Anaconda don't want none else.
	He's dead.
	Oh, what are we going to do?
	What if we use Douglas Baird to get back to the boat?
	That's a really smart idea.
	Go wanted this.
	I'm not sure he would have wanted this.
	Oh, look at the snake.
	He's alive.
	I thought you checked his balls right there.
	Don't.
	He's right behind you!
	Pass!
	It's pretty funny.
	He wakes up with a dead pig on his head.
	I like it.
	That's going to be funny.
	Who's the other guy that didn't give him credit?
	Steve Zahn.
	Oh, gosh, he's hilarious.
	Pink champagne, man.
	Oh, and you're like, pink champagne is the best.
	I loved him until he did that movie of the tranny kid where he's like, I found out this is who he really is.
	I was like, it was just the worst propaganda.
	Outside of that, he needed to check.
	Yeah, it was terrible.
	All right.
	Let's grab some chats.
	All right.
	First chat from FU Google.
	Nice.
	Question for the crew: What is the current single biggest threat to the U.S.?
	Pops Crowder is the man.
	Oh, right.
	Well, the single biggest threat is the progressive left, is leftism to the United States.
	This nation will crumble if we allow the enemy within to destroy us from within.
	That's the biggest threat.
	And of course, then that means there are sort of proxy threats.
	So those who seek to fracture the right and to destroy the momentum that has been generated, they're doing, in my opinion, they're doing the work of the left.
	And the left is a death cult.
	So if you do that and you're doing the bidding of the left, whether purposefully or inadvertently, you're serving a death cult.
	And it doesn't mean that people on the right have to agree on everything.
	I absolutely think that's what we try and call balls and strikes.
	But people who exist solely to fracture the right.
	And you know who I'm talking about.
	That's a big threat because that gives the left a win.
	And we know what they want.
	They want a world of gender dysphoria, of socialism.
	And really, what is, I mean, you just heard Hassan Piker the other day was a good idea.
	He said, he was asked on trigonometry.
	Yeah.
	Who's done it right?
	And he said, well, I'm critical of all governments.
	And he said, China has done it the best for its citizens.
	I guess he doesn't know what doesn't know about the slavery.
	Right.
	So that's what they want.
	When they say the quiet part out loud, you just heard it from that Afrin, whatever her name is, people like Hassan Piker.
	You hear the left sometimes where the mask is off, and you know what they want for this country.
	Yeah, I think, and I know this is, I'm going to just go up one level in the macro.
	Like, I think it's apathy.
	I think people not caring, not putting time and effort into understanding the government that they are living under and caring about their communities, caring about what happens, not actually perceiving there to be real threats like leftism, like the feminism stuff that we've been talking about, like China trying to box us out in different areas, like this weird kind of dissident right movement that's not just critical of Israel because that's fine.
	We've had our own problems with Israel, but it's doing it in such a way to destroy something and not really have anything to replace it, just in this destructive kind of mode.
	And like, I think that's one of the biggest threats is that people don't pay much attention to life because they just kind of get plugged in and move along.
	Well, I wouldn't even say apathy because that's not as people are pretty politically engaged.
	There are a lot of, but they're the left, it's progressivism, and then the absence of truth, the post-truth area.
	That's what we're seeing on the right.
	The whole, hey, I mean, you've seen all the conspiracy surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination.
	It's fine to ask questions, but here's a detailed chart where everything is baseless, is verifiably false, but believe me, and anyone who tells you not to believe my completely unreferenced claim is a shill.
	And then we even had someone just yesterday, I know you interacted with them on X, who said that I was awful because I had invited Nick Fuentes on.
	And I wasn't applying my own standard equally because I said I wouldn't debate Hassan Piker because he calls for the death of people.
	He goes, well, Nick Fuentes has called for the deaths of Jews.
	And honestly, here's the thing.
	For all my criticisms of Nick Fuentes, I don't know that I've ever heard him like Hassan Piker call for the death.
	He asked Grok and Grok gave answers.
	I'm like, well, what's the context of this?
	This isn't calling the direct death of anybody.
	Even let's say that he was, because it's really hard to know if he was joking or serious.
	And I think sometimes he was joking where if he says, oh, yeah, doubts the numbers of the Holocaust, that's still not calling for the deaths of Jews.
	That's not the same as saying spill their blood in the street.
	So that person there who would be considered stab.
	What Hassan say that got him banned?
	Stab a politician, Scott.
	Somebody, yeah.
	Yeah.
	He got banned for a month for saying, literally telling his audience to stand up.
	I mean, Nick Fuentes, even he was the nemesis of Charlie Kirk, right?
	He was trolling him everywhere he went, and he still mourned the death of Charlie Kirk and said, you don't want to see that, of course.
	So there is a difference.
	Even from those who people think, whether you agree or disagree, who would be considered some of the most controversial or problematic figures, to use the left's term, right, on the right, because I hear people on the right say problematic, and I'm like, don't use victim words.
	It's still not even close to the left, to the mainstream left.
	So then you have someone like that who would fancy themselves a traditional conservative, and now you give credence to the people who say gatekeeping.
	Of course I've invited Nick.
	I've also invited Candace on and Tucker on and Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro on.
	I had the first transgender mayor in Texas, Jesse Herbston.
	I've had Naomi Wolf on.
	I had an Imam on who called for my death on air, so I didn't have him back.
	I brought that up.
	I'm like, well, the point was that you're trying to show that Islamic is not peaceful.
	Right.
	Because they did say during an interview that you should die.
	Right.
	So mission accomplished.
	It's like, oh, well, that was a waste of interview.
	I'm like, well, then you don't know media.
	You don't understand the boy.
	The fucking interview.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So the post, the absence of truth itself is an advantage to the left because they always love to do whatever it is that they're trying to carry out in secret.
	Next chat.
	I think Gerald, though, has a good point.
	The apathy thing is true, but the lack of truth is the moral compass.
	It's the filter through which you run everything.
	And then those people get apathetic because they don't have that.
	They don't have any way to engage, to really.
	Well, sometimes you get people who I've seen now, you get people who have a complete absence of truth, and they are adamant.
	They're almost dogmatic about it, and they will defend it when, and that's really difficult because if you've ever known someone who's gone insane, and I have, it's watching this descent into madness, and it's a very helpless feeling.
	It's a very helpless feeling.
	You can't do anything about it.
	And you see that happening en masse sometimes right now.
	And that's very cool.
	I also heard Dennis Miller say, if you're a full-grown adult and you don't have an opinion on such subjects, then you've lived an asshole's life.
	Yes, exactly.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	And so I get to see that really quickly, and I know we want to move on to more chats.
	But every time, so there was a recent post by Candace, and I know we've talked about Candace before.
	And all I literally said, and I shouldn't say it that way because I am paraphrasing.
	I don't remember the exact words, was basically like, if you have this information, can you show it?
	Right.
	And the responses that I got was the descent into madness.
	Yeah, it's the burden of the goofies on the person making the claim.
	Exactly.
	I wasn't challenging the validity.
	I'm just saying, hey, can you show us?
	Since you said you have evidence, can you show us that evidence?
	And the stuff that I got was like, man, people really are descending into madness.
	Like, I don't want you to defend me that way.
	Like, listen, if you're a fan of this show and you're a fan of what we do, that's fantastic.
	And I love that.
	Do not ever take our word for it.
	That's why we give you the references.
	Never say Gerald said and stop there, or Steven said and stop there.
	That's not what we want you to do ever.
	We want you to know that what we said is true because you looked at what we referenced or you agreed with our opinion based on facts and evidence presented, not conjecture, not an idea that just got shoehorned in.
	Like you don't want that.
	Well, that's how you know, too, that certain people are, they don't actually want to communicate real ideas.
	They just want to trick people.
	So to use a Nick Fuentes example, is, you know, he, I guess, Lane said, because I don't really check my direct messages.
	He said that Nick Fuentes had said, like, debate me.
	And when we're doing change throughout the road, and so then we reached out to him, and people going, you won't debate him.
	You won't debate them.
	Okay, all right, fine.
	All right, invite him on.
	Then they go, you didn't invite him on.
	Yeah, we did.
	Why would he go on anyway?
	Wait, what?
	And that's the kind of thing that happens, right?
	And then they, and then people just snipe where it's like, I'm not going to do the thing where you do a video and a video and a video.
	It's like, okay, you address it once and you leave it.
	But to me, that's not someone who's looking to communicate ideas.
	And I'm not saying Nick himself, because maybe, maybe he will.
	But you've been following.
	It's very fair to him.
	I don't think he's always fair, but you've been very fair to him and extending the invitation and trying to give him the benefit of the doubt many times.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I hope he does.
	All right.
	Next chat.
	All right.
	Next chat from the good username in reverse.
	Question for the crew: why is Trump falling for the Muslim takeover, making deals with Qatar Muslims and putting a joint base in Idaho along with a mosque?
	What the F is up with that?
	So I need to, sorry to interrupt, but the Idaho thing, I don't think they were putting a joint base in Idaho.
	Like it wasn't like a new base that didn't exist.
	There are joint training drills that we've done with other countries at bases that we've done all the time.
	But the story came out and people ran with it as like they're building a new base for them there.
	And I don't think that's true at all.
	It's our base.
	We just have joint training operations and that's where we chose to do that.
	That's the same thing I'm with Candace talking about the French.
	It's like, well, you have joint training operations, especially with special task forces all the time.
	All the time.
	That's what all allies do.
	And I don't know about the mosque thing.
	I will say Qatar is one of those things where he would argue that they're an important sort of broker in peace deals in the Middle East.
	And I think it could be argued that they're not because they are obviously having funding terrorism.
	They fund both sides.
	But if you look back in time, I mean, at one point in time, we supported Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.
	It doesn't mean it's right.
	It means sometimes you work with what you have.
	I think there's a big difference between considering someone an ally in that region of the world as the perfect is the enemy of the good and we work with the hand we've been dealt versus importing Islam here to the United States.
	And I've not seen any substantial evidence that Donald Trump is doing that here.
	No, I think there, you know, there are so many threats that you kind of have your eyes on.
	And I think this is one of those threats right now that Muslims around the world have done a really good job at kind of masking in the United States because they've switched tactics.
	It used to be very easy to go, well, that guy just blew himself up in a market, stabbed a bunch of people, ran people over with a bus or something like that.
	Obviously, that's bad.
	Now they're just coming in and breeding and voting and using our system against us.
	And so that's a much different situation to have to deal with.
	You have to come up with new ways to deal with that.
	When people say that, they're like, Donald Trump's betrayed us on Islam.
	It's like, okay.
	So, you want to replace him with the person who didn't enact an Islamic travel ban, a Muslim travel ban?
	He's the guy who did that, who reversed it.
	Now, is he as hardline enough?
	No, but is he the most hardline president on that and being able to recognize the threat that people present from certain countries?
	Yes.
	So, you replace him with whom?
	And I don't want to replace someone based on a mistruth.
	I don't know.
	Unless I'm wrong, I don't think that Donald Trump is, as a matter of policy, installed a mosque.
	And Idaho, I could be wrong about that, but I don't think.
	I think Idaho, I don't know where the mosque is.
	I don't know if they were referencing that.
	I think Trump domestically couldn't care less about politics and dealing with the swamp.
	But internationally, he's pretty good.
	I mean, he's pretty savvy at creating relationships and gladhanding a bit.
	He knows who he's working.
	He knows who's trying to work him.
	He gets it domestically.
	He couldn't give any of these people on the other side.
	Yeah.
	So, really quickly, so before we take the next chat, we have a good update, a very good update for everybody who is concerned about the she male winning the strongman.
	Stripped?
	Stripped of the medal?
	Yes, indeed.
	Strongman Games comes out.
	Official strongman officials were unaware of this fact ahead of the competition, and we have been urgently investigating since being informed.
	Had we been aware or had this been declared at any point before during the competition, this athlete would not have been permitted to compete in the women's open category.
	We have disqualified the athlete in question from the official Strongman League Championships 2025.
	All athlete points and places will be altered accordingly to ensure that the rightful places are allocated to each of the women's open athletes.
	Pussies.
	They just use athletes.
	They use the word athlete everywhere to avoid him and her.
	By the way, this is people act as though, ah, nothing's been done.
	This is a win.
	And let me sort of draw a line for you.
	This is a big win.
	YouTube would ban discussing transgenderism.
	YouTube would, at one point, they deemed it completely unadvertiser-friendly, not allowed to promote anything surrounding their only two genders, change my mind, right?
	That was done a long time ago.
	At that point in time, you were persona non grata.
	It was hate speech.
	Now, draw that line from back in the day.
	If this had happened, well, we know exactly what the reaction would be.
	If someone protested, that would be the person punished, right?
	If someone left the podium, that would have been the person punished.
	We saw it with the IOC and the Olympics.
	And hey, hate has no role in our organization.
	That would have been the reaction.
	Now, draw a line from their only two genders, change my mind, wildly unpopular at that moment in time.
	No one was on campus.
	And then to the president elected with a mandate of the masses saying legally we are only recognizing two genders.
	And now a very different reaction where someone is stripped of their medal, rightfully so.
	You would have had the exact opposite outcome only seven years ago.
	That's right.
	And watch the backlash and be ready to defend against it.
	Be ready to have their back when they do something right like this because you know this community that has not gone away, that has just become a little bit more quiet, is going to respond.
	I think there's less backlash, though, now.
	They think, but just be ready because I don't want us to tell people to do the right thing.
	And I say this, us as a movement, right?
	I don't want us to tell people to do the right thing and support them doing the right thing and then forget about it and say that.
	Yeah, good point.
	Did they really need to use the bent bar in their logo?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's heavyweight.
	Yeah, it's heavyweight.
	No, not really.
	Not really.
	That's heavy?
	Okay.
	Well, no, I mean, to each their own.
	In the logo, it's heavy, but they're not lifting that.
	But you want the women?
	The women.
	It's also the official strong man games.
	So I feel like they do that.
	Well, then, yeah, they spend the heck out of it.
	Yeah, of course.
	Put a Volkswagen on his back.
	But no, I'm talking about the women's.
	That thing has a Doniker.
	That's it.
	Yeah, she does.
	Next chat.
	Swinging low.
	She's lovely.
	Next chat from Cool Bros01.
	Question with the crew, whatever.
	How can a trans person be a Christian?
	If God doesn't make mistakes, how can someone be born in the wrong body?
	Well, someone can still be a Christian and just be completely turned around as the result of their experiences.
	It doesn't make it right.
	I mean, you know, the same thing can be said for people who are incredibly promiscuous, which, you know, we don't find to be as much of an affront because it's also more natural, right?
	Men are hardwired to be promiscuous, but we're told to bridle that as Christians.
	So someone could still be a Christian or still be saved, but also be living a life of sin.
	Of course, at a certain point, they have to stop it.
	Now, if they are actively waging war against the tenets of God, saying that you can be any gender you want, of course, I would question their faith.
	I would question their authenticity based on the fruit of the spirit.
	But I will say this: transgenderism is anti-Christian.
	The two cannot be reconciled with each other.
	Individuals will make mistakes.
	Yeah.
	And exactly.
	I think it's that battling part.
	Like if you are fighting through your sin, and listen, people want to talk about this stuff.
	Look, homosexuality is a sin.
	Deal with the Bible, not me.
	Deal with God if you have a problem with that.
	And so what does it look like for somebody to be a Christian in general?
	Well, it means that you go by the playbook and say, okay, well, what is sin and what is not sin?
	Okay.
	I therefore, once I've done that, I cannot go and tell God what sin really is and go, you know what, I like your program, except for items 75 and 83.
	I'm going to say that those are actually wrong and I'm going to just continue living in those and celebrating those and doing those and saying that that is not sin.
	So what Stephen's talking about is actually fighting and working through that.
	And I've seen men who are gay just be celibate and say, you know what?
	I don't want to go against what God has said.
	And so it is better for me to go through life celibate, like a meow Paul situation potentially, than it is for me to go and live in this sin.
	And in some cases, I've literally had conversations with people who grew up, had homosexual relationships, went to be celibate, and then ended up marrying a woman and having a family after that.
	I have no idea what that story is going to look like, but I do understand that there are different crosses that we have to bear.
	Calling God's word and definition of what sin is wrong is not one of those things that we can do and also call ourselves a Christian.
	But none of that means you're not forgiven.
	I mean, Christ's finished work on the cross is it.
	And we all sin moment to moment, not daily.
	But working constantly.
	Right.
	We're working through our faith.
	That's a totally different thing.
	Exactly.
	And I'm going to put a fine point on it.
	You cannot say this is not sin and then be saved because I would say, God, you've washed all these sins away.
	This one thing you said is sin, you have to acknowledge that.
	And I'm going to exactly.
	That's a different thing.
	That's what you're being forgiven for.
	You know what leads down that path?
	That's exactly what leads on.
	You know what's just as egregious?
	Female pastors leading churches.
	Oh, no.
	But what God said here, what should not happen, I think it should happen for me.
	I think I should hold authority over men.
	Let's start a denomination.
	Just as far as refusing to acknowledge God's prescription and saying, no, no, he's wrong about that.
	And that's what happens in the wonky places, man.
	That's where I'm sure, like Dreyer, Dyer, Jay Dyer.
	That's where the Orthodox church or more traditional churches have far more standing.
	They just go, well, we're not going to do that.
	Why?
	Well, because we've never done that prescription.
	Now, you may disagree with all of what they view theologically as the tenets of God's prescription, but they've remained very consistent.
	They don't change because, ugh, attendance is down.
	So let's have a lady pastor.
	Right.
	All of these things, like this is very, very clear.
	They're very clear prescriptions.
	And then there are some issues that are a little bit gray that people sometimes have slight differing opinions on.
	But the Protestant church has allowed us to slide down this slope for a long time.
	Let's say a trans person comes in and goes, well, I don't think that I don't think that it's sinful.
	I don't think God makes mistakes.
	And God made me with a brain that, you know, I believe that I'm a male trapped in a female's body or I believe I'm a female trapped in a male's body.
	Well, let's say, what are you supposed to do?
	Take it to your elders, take it to the pastor.
	What if this person takes it to a female pastor leading the church?
	What is she going to say?
	Well, yeah, be that as it may, you may think that, but God's word says X.
	Yeah, you first.
	What does God say about a lead female pastor at a church?
	Right?
	You can't.
	It's a hard constant.
	And that's from understanding.
	There's too much of that.
	Yeah, there are lots of great roles.
	And just, hey, you know, we talk about it in the secular world, in the police department, the military.
	Lots of great roles.
	Just, you know, sorry.
	That's our mantle to carry.
	And by the way, the funny thing is it's God's prescription.
	And it's so clear as to why.
	Like, people go like, oh, Timothy 2.
	It's like, yeah, but you can just go a little bit further in Timothy.
	And it talks about how women, the reason why is that they are more prone to deception, to being manipulated.
	And you know where you see that?
	Advertising.
	You, of course, see that.
	You see infomercials designed largely to cater to women.
	You see marketing largely designed to cater.
	Women are more influenceable through marketing.
	You see it by women bitching about the pink text.
	That is a perfect case.
	Just Venus razors are more expensive.
	They're pink.
	Buy a black razor.
	It's right next to it.
	But I want the pink razor because women are more prone to manipulate.
	How do you know?
	Women, how do they fight their wars?
	They're not fighting them with axes.
	They will manipulate.
	It's a war of words.
	It's a war of creating clicks, right?
	And so God says this is why they shouldn't be in this position of leadership.
	This is how God ordained it.
	Men will rule over the congregation.
	And there are other roles that are appropriate for women.
	And there are other places that are appropriate for women as wise counsel and how you're supposed to bring it up.
	But when you just dismiss that, because, well, most women are the ones who bring the kids to Sunday school.
	You don't have a leg to stand on when you tell someone the LGBTQ AIP doesn't have a role in our church because you're doing it yourself.
	Next chat.
	All right.
	Next chat.
	Question for Pops Crowder from Lodge Black.
	There you go.
	What were some of the best ways you helped direct the energy of your boys when they were young?
	I have a wild one-year-old, and that is only getting crazier.
	The beatings.
	Frequent.
	You know, I was just talking about this with my wife the other day.
	She didn't understand.
	Well, she'd be on the phone and in the other room and she would hear bodies hitting the floor.
	And she didn't get it.
	And it was just, you know this, Gerald.
	You've got three wild men at home.
	They have to have a way to purge that.
	But really, they're saying, hey, dad, am I worthy to protect the village?
	Am I tough enough?
	Do I have the stuff?
	Show me how to control this, what's going to be a lot of strength in the future.
	And let's bridle it in and let's be able to handle that.
	And rough housing is so important for boys.
	And we're fighting for girls too because you have twins, same age, same level.
	They're both as rowdy.
	But you've got to have ways to purge that energy.
	And I think dads are the most important way to do it.
	There's no other way to do it.
	I don't think women can really understand that.
	It's a different thing.
	I mean, that's something that you mentioned a minute ago, the education system, right?
	The education system is designed for women to sit across from each other and communicate.
	Just that they have to sit still for such a long period of time and just focus.
	Men are very active and they want to explore.
	They want to create.
	They want to destroy.
	They want to understand how things work.
	And they're going to look to climb the tallest thing that they can find to climb.
	It's like, can I protect the village thing?
	They're going to look to do all these things.
	And you do want to give them space to be able to do that without destroying stuff.
	And then all themselves and practice, you know, okay, now you have to bridle that.
	Now you do have to sit down for a little while and do some work because you're going to have to think through things and it's going to take time and you're going to have to build that in.
	But to think that boys and girls are just going to be the same, it's just not.
	It's just not a thing.
	I will tell you what's the most difficult thing, I think, raising a young boy right now.
	And that's that the world up until recently was a supremely dangerous place.
	And so a big part of being a father would be sort of walking your son through this danger while keeping them safe, but allowing enough of that danger to get close to him, to touch him so that he learns how to deal with it.
	Considering that things are so comfortable now and they're not really out there hunting, they're not having to go actually kill their food.
	The most difficult thing, I think, is the controlled defeat that you kind of have to teach your son.
	You have to, it's like, okay, you want him to get his ass kicked figuratively in a controlled environment where he learns what it's like to be overpowered, where he learns what it is to face danger and how practice can help you overcome it and vigilance.
	But you almost feel like you're hurting your son when you do it because you have to put him in a scenario where eventually he's going to have to learn.
	And no one wants to do that because you want to protect them.
	And it's your job to protect a girl.
	Why?
	Because we've known that they wouldn't be able to face the same dangers.
	But your job is to raise a little warrior, for lack of a better term, who is capable of facing those dangers so they can raise their own son.
	And that's a really hard thing to do because no one likes to watch their kid lose or have a tough day or try something and fail.
	But that is your job as a father to do it in a way that is productive and safe so that they don't face the real danger out there, you know, completely cold.
	And I would say that's the hardest thing I've found with a young boy.
	I think you're going to find too, Gerald, maybe Noodles a little further down the trail.
	He has some older kids.
	Yeah.
	The desire to stick your nose in when there's bullying or your kids being, because you've been through all that and you know how it's supposed to work and you want to right or wrong.
	You can sometimes hurt them more.
	I mean, I stuck my nose in with both my boys when I probably should have let them fight their own battles.
	And, you know, I wanted to pick up business with father on the other side.
	I know, right?
	Because you're turning out a little hoodlum.
	Yeah.
	Noodles got some older ones, I think.
	How old's your oldest son?
	He's 11.
	11.
	So yeah, he's probably.
	You know what, Noodles?
	I'll come over.
	I'll beat up your son.
	He'll feel the failure thing we've been talking about and I'll do it in a controlled way.
	I beat them up plenty.
	Okay.
	You haven't had any of that happen at school yet where there's a kid.
	Hateful kid that's looking.
	Yeah.
	My sons are close enough in age that they stick up for each other pretty well.
	And they all carry.
	It's weird.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Learn them young.
	Yep.
	So yeah, I think that's an important thing.
	And sports is a big part of purging.
	It can take a lot of different forms, but some way to be violent in a controlled manner is huge.
	I agree.
	Oh, we went past.
	Okay, well, let's take two more chats.
	I'm going to ask you, it's super quick.
	Yeah, how early is too early for jiu-jitsu?
	Because I know that's a really good way to do it.
	And you've talked about it before.
	I've heard different schools of thought.
	What I was always told was like six.
	Okay.
	Because they're old enough to sort of understand it.
	And typically, if you get a kid into it young, it's something they have to do.
	Yeah.
	But I've also heard some other people say like four.
	So I do with both my son and daughter.
	Like we just started, you know, at four doing like jiu-jitsu games like crazy horses where they learn how to take the back and kind of stay in tight.
	You know, you do some games like, you know, the takedown game where it's basically a tackle, right?
	And distract them, clap, look over there.
	The Gracies have a good program with that bullyproof where they just think they're playing a game.
	But as far as actually getting them in an organized school, I've heard six, but I don't know.
	My thing is, I'll never, my dad did a really good job of this where he supported us in whatever it was that we wanted to do, provided it wasn't, you know, antithetical to our principles or dangerous.
	You know, we went a different route.
	My dad played sports at a high level and I was doing some voice work shit.
	Where I think that encouraging, oh my iPad just heard me say the S-I-R-I.
	Encouraging them and what it is that they're good at, they're passionate about.
	But my kids, I've always said they'll have to get the blue belt in jiu-jitsu.
	And then after that, if they don't want to do that, they can stop.
	How long does that typically take to get the blue belt?
	I don't know because adults, it's like around three years typically.
	So for kids, it might be a little longer.
	It's a different belt system for kids, but the equivalent for a kid.
	Yeah, the equivalent, meaning they have to get to the point where they can defend themselves.
	It's super important.
	And the reason I'm asking.
	It's not about the belt.
	It's about the skills.
	Yes, exactly right.
	And the confidence that they work against the untrained opponent every time.
	It's not a sport.
	It's a skill set like reading or doing basic addition or subtraction.
	It's something I always defend themselves.
	And I'm a very big guy.
	I've always been much bigger than my peers.
	I've always, I very rarely have ever felt threatened in a situation that I didn't think I couldn't handle.
	But this feels like just some of the stuff we did.
	And this was years ago.
	It felt like a superpower.
	Right.
	You know, it's like, I've just, like, I just know how to deal with these situations.
	And I had like five seconds of training.
	Yeah.
	You know, I can't imagine what going through years of it would make you feel like.
	You know what's neat about jiu-jitsu is a lot of people think, well, what if the bad guys know it?
	You know what?
	It's much less likely because the douchebags can't handle jiu-jitsu.
	They quit.
	They come in.
	They come in and they think they're going to be the man and they get tapped.
	Sure, those guys squeak through.
	You get the thugs.
	But when some gaming nerd chokes a guy out who's a bouncer at a local club, he goes, oh, let's go again.
	The same thing happens over and over.
	He quits.
	Or he starts that silly stuff like, if this were a real fight, or like the Krav Maga guy who said, if I had you, I'd get your jobs.
	You grab your balls.
	And you said, okay.
	Remember, Stephen said to him, okay, we're about to roll in a minute here.
	New rules.
	I can do it too.
	Ready?
	Let's go.
	Wait, Either on you in two seconds and poke your eyes and grab your.
	And it doesn't have to be just, it doesn't have to be jiu-jitsu.
	Like, judo is great.
	My point is you're left with people you can trust.
	Yes.
	People that respect.
	Because if Tim catches me and I've got a tap, he knows that he's got to trust that I'll let him go when he taps, right?
	No, exactly.
	And so it's a whole different group of people.
	And the real thugs end up getting filtered out.
	I mean, honestly, you accomplish the same thing with if the kid was a good wrestler and a few months of legitimate boxing or kickboxing and judo.
	I just say because jiu-jitsu is something that's pretty ubiquitous right now and structured.
	So you know what you're getting.
	That's why we say a belt because a blue belt signifies something, or at least it used to signifies the ability to handle yourself with a capable person.
	And like when someone says, well, what if the person on the street knows it?
	You're still better off knowing it than not knowing it.
	No, you know what I mean?
	At that point, you're still better off being able to defend yourself against most, if not all.
	Yeah.
	But the most important thing, and people miss this, is jiu-jitsu is tested 100% every single day.
	100%.
	You can't test kickboxing.
	You can't kick me in the head full wind and me try to defend it as a real world.
	You can't even practice boxing that way.
	Jiu-Jitsu gives you confidence because it passed the test daily.
	Against guys that know you're trying to submit them, yet you still catch them.
	The guy in the street has no chance.
	It's like, Gerald, you're going against super athletes at the collegiate level.
	Some guy in the street is nothing compared to these behemoths you've been battling.
	Well, that's the thing when people say, like, I do Kung Fu or Karma Ga.
	Okay, you played football, right?
	How good do you think you would have been at football if you sat down and they told you you played tight end?
	Okay.
	And they told you the plays and how you were going to run and they told you how you're going to catch the ball, but you never did it in a game.
	How well do you think you would do your first game?
	That's what every single kung fu and krav maga person believes.
	They've never actually done it.
	Forever, never, never.
	They go, it's too dangerous.
	It's too dangerous to do.
	It's like, okay, so you sit and you learn it and everything is done at half speed.
	Now, is there some value to awareness?
	Sure.
	Would you be better than someone who didn't sit and learn play after play?
	In other words, if you sit and you learn how to do football without playing it every day for several years, it's going to be useless.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, you're going to be better than someone who never learned it if they put you on the field.
	You're not going to be as capable as someone who's actually done it.
	And that's the problem with a lot of the martial arts out there.
	It's like, it's kind of been proven now.
	And I get it, the two, they'll be like, oh, it's not in a, it's not, it doesn't take place in a soft mat.
	Sure.
	And if you get punched in the face, but the difference is jiu-jitsu and judo teaches you how to deal with that.
	A lot of people don't.
	I'll give you a brief history lesson.
	The guy as a punch.
	Yeah.
	Well, Jagoro Khano was the guy who created judo.
	Now, he was Japanese.
	I think he was a mathematician.
	He was like a university professor.
	He did was he took Japanese jiu-jitsu, which was the open-handed samurai art, and he was like, Yeah, but I've never, we've never done any of this.
	He's like, So we don't really know how this would go.
	He's like, So we need to, like in any other sport or endeavor, we need to develop something where we can actually practice it at full speed against an unwilling opponent, but still make sure it's effective.
	And that's why he distilled it to judo, going, We can throw each other really hard, which we know the effects that would have.
	So we'll put down soft mats so that we can do it every day.
	Yeah.
	We're going to show people how to choke and how to break limbs because we know what effect that has, but we're going to have a tap system so we can practice.
	We can get as close to we can with deadly, you know, maiming techniques while still being able to train the next day.
	Right.
	That's what he created.
	And by the way, the original judo and jiu-jitsu were very, very similar and the rule sets changed, but that's the basis of it.
	So it's not like this guy missed it.
	He had the ultra-deadly jujit open-handed jiu-jitsu way of the samurai.
	And he's like, yeah, none of us would be able to do this.
	We all get dead.
	And the guy was a scientist.
	All right.
	I remember being out with your mom one night, and there's some guy who was popping.
	He was obviously drunk and just kind of getting loud.
	And I said, oh, gosh, I'd just love to.
	And she said to me, what gives you, what makes you think that you're so able to go over?
	I said, I don't know.
	I don't know 100%.
	But other men play golf.
	I fight a death match with people half my age four days a week.
	And so I have a confidence that I could probably subdue a drunk.
	Right.
	But it doesn't mean it's going to work every time.
	No.
	But there is a confidence.
	You know, Gerald, you do something at a high level.
	The guy in the street is a different, different kettle of fish.
	It's a lot easier.
	Yeah, that's absolutely right.
	All right.
	Let's grab a final chat.
	Who are we sending people to after this?
	Is it still Real America?
	It'll be Devorah Darkins at this point.
	Devoy Darkins.
	Okay.
	If you have a good final chat, then we can play this out here.
	All right.
	Final chat from Pedro, the not really Mexican 15.
	Question for the crew.
	How will we survive as a race if white women refuse to acknowledge their suicidal empathy and push other women into a life of misery with higher crime rates against women?
	Hashtag arena.
	Hold on, keep that up.
	Refuse to acknowledge our suicidal and push other women into a life of misery with higher crime rates.
	Okay, so they mean white women, but you're saying survive as a race.
	Do you mean suicidal empathy in letting in sort of like massive waves of migration?
	Just all the different policies that would leave them open to a lack of people.
	I'm going to go out 75 times from jail, that sort of thing.
	No police.
	Yeah.
	Well, here's the thing.
	There's the individual solution.
	There's a societal solution.
	The individual solution is one that feminists would also reject, which is live in an area with a good man who will protect and provide for you.
	You need a protector.
	You need a provider.
	So if you are a woman who is in a life where you are a homemaker, you are a stay-at-home wife, mom, and this man is tasked with and accepts the responsibility of providing and protecting you, the likelihood of you finding yourself alone on a subway in an urban area is far lower.
	It doesn't mean that it won't happen, but I'm saying there are individual steps that women can take to preserve themselves.
	And that, by the way, would look very much like a traditional nuclear family as prescribed by patriarchy, which a lot of them hate.
	Societally, it's not going to go well for women.
	Now, the check is men voting.
	It's always been men voting.
	White men in this country are the only reason that presidents, Republican presidents are elected, period, ever.
	And that seems to be standing relatively firm.
	As far as women, though, where there are enough of them, they vote for policy as a voting bloc, not all, not all at all, they will collectively vote their own demise.
	So women have to start policing.
	That means that the woman who has made the right decisions herself, let's say she has a good husband, a good family, traditional roles, she's involved in a church, right?
	She keeps, she ideally carries, by the way, herself.
	She is going to have to step out of her comfort zone to correct the women who are voting for the demise of Western women.
	That is very out of character for women.
	So the biggest problem that feminism faces is not just young, dumb women who are impressionable, like we just heard Afrin or whatever her name is.
	It's that it's not in the nature of good women to hold them accountable, admonish them, and correct them.
	Men still do that.
	Like, here's the thing.
	No matter what you do, we still have patriarchs.
	Men.
	We have generals.
	We have colonels.
	We have bosses.
	We have MVPs.
	We have captain of the football team.
	We have general ballbusters.
	Yeah, we have those because there's no escaping it.
	There's no escaping it when you're facing a very real, a very physical challenge that can be quantified, you know, either on a scoreboard or on a body count or in a bank account.
	You don't get to just break down something in the theoretical, oh, down with the idea.
	Imagine being in a work scenario and like, screw you, boss.
	I'm going to do it my way.
	Well, you're fired and now you're not able to eat.
	Imagine being in war and doing what these seditious senators told you to do.
	And I'm defying orders.
	Well, now you're court-martialed and you're out.
	Imagine not following the play on a football field.
	Well, I don't want to, and you're now riding the bench and you're probably not on the team, right?
	Because other men would be like, okay, cool.
	You go do your thing.
	We're not going to let you affect us.
	We're okay following a leader.
	We're okay.
	We understand that's the order of things.
	We naturally organize ourselves into hierarchies with typically very little bitching.
	Women, ironically, as a product of the patriarchy, had matriarchs as well because that was an assigned role through the patriarchy.
	What do I mean by that?
	I mean, we lived in a patriarchal society where men, still as the enforcers, would go, you, listen to your mom.
	You, if I hear you giving lip to your grandmother, when I come home, it's going to be a problem.
	So there were still matriarchs who also coached other women.
	And in getting rid of the patriarchy and in destroying the family, feminists have actually ruined the idea of a matriarchy internally in our units.
	And you don't have them.
	You don't have them the way that you used to.
	You will have them, for example, in some other families, you know, people who come from Latin American cultures, you know, it's still a strong thing.
	The chikleta is a real thing.
	I would imagine the same thing for people from the Eastern Bloc where they respect their elders.
	Probably the same thing I would imagine in cultures like Japan, though I'm not sure.
	I'm sure Elaine can inform me.
	In trying to destroy patriarchy, we've also gotten rid of the wise women who would keep other women accountable.
	And why did they do that?
	Well, you just heard why.
	Because the matriarch, the wise woman, would undoubtedly, almost invariably, tell young women, hey, I've lived a lot of years.
	This is what matters.
	It's not a paycheck.
	It's not a degree.
	It is family.
	It is watching your children grow up.
	It is watching your grandchildren grow up.
	You're not going to be able to do what your husband does.
	Thank God you don't have to go to war.
	So your job is to get him ready for when he does.
	Be that militarily, professionally, whatever it is.
	The guy is supposed to go out and take the licks.
	That doesn't mean he's supposed to come home and give you licks, but he's supposed to go out and take the licks.
	And one of the privileges that is afforded to that is coming home to a peacemaker.
	And that could only be made if there was a matriarch coaching the next generation of women.
	You've gotten rid of that.
	Men still have it because there's no way around it.
	Women have gotten rid of it in an attempt to get rid of the patriarchy.
	So that has to be fixed.
	And that means that women who follow that prescription in their own lives are going to have to reach beyond their bubble and reach other women who have not heard this at all because they've grown up with whatever you want to do.
	And that's the big difference.
	That really is the big difference.
	How does Gen Z, how do the Gen Z males go so right and Gen Z females go so left?
	Well, let me walk you through this.
	Say you take a Gen Z male.
	And this, we were always worried about this, by the way, right?
	We were worried that we were going to have a generation, multiple generations of pansies because they wouldn't use a red pen, right?
	That would hurt people's feelings.
	And everyone got a participation trophy.
	That applies for a while in grade school until people get into any realm.
	Young men get into any realm that is competitive, right?
	So what happened was this idea we were afraid of, hey, you can do whatever you want and it's all okay.
	Guess what?
	Young boy is going to find out that that's a bunch of horseshit as soon as he gets punched in the face by a bully and has no answers for it.
	That is going to happen.
	He's going to go, oh, I guess I can't just do anything I want.
	And I guess not everybody is equal.
	And I guess there is a power differential and I guess there is a hierarchy in life.
	Why?
	Because I'm wearing it on my shirt.
	It's leaking down my shirt right now.
	Or getting cut from the team or not making the cut in a business or going through a test in the military and being assigned to a job that he's most capable for.
	You can't pump that message to a young man and counteract male nature because it still exists and you still see it today in our units.
	Women can, though.
	Young women can get, you're perfect, you're a princess, hey, anything you want to do.
	And before they realize that that game is one they don't want to play, they can make it through their biological window where they valued all the wrong things and no one corrected them.
	It's a world that exists in the theoretical.
	And that's why you see so many women, not all, not all, not all, who are delusional in a way that you don't see as commonly with young men.
	And so the only way to fix that is for women, good women, to reestablish their roles as matriarchs and call all of these other women on their shit.
	We can't do it.
	We can't, men can't do it.
	We've been told, yay, you don't have a vagina, you don't have an opinion.
	They change that to, if you don't have a uterus, you don't have a lot of to if you don't identify as a woman, you can't have an opinion.
	Okay, whatever.
	That's how delusional it is.
	It's proving my point.
	Women, if you believe what we're talking about to be true, it's not enough to believe it to be true and live it in your own life.
	You have a greater responsibility to evangelize that than even men because there's been such an absence of it.
	And I mean that if you want to turn this around at all, you have to, you have to reclaim your role as a matriarch and evangelize.
	And what does evangelize mean?
	It comes to evangelize means let people know, right?
	People who used to go and evangelize, there's a Caesar.
	It was, hey, good news.
	Hey, there's a good news.
	There's a new Caesar.
	Great.
	He's going to give you this.
	He's going to give you this.
	He's going to do this.
	He wants aqueducts, whatever the hell.
	Isn't that cool?
	Here are the rules.
	Evangelizing wasn't, that's why it's so stupid when Christians go, have you heard the good news?
	Jesus is your friend.
	What does that mean?
	That doesn't get context.
	That's a starting point.
	Evangelizing included the benefits, the blessings, right?
	Along with the expectations.
	The solution to this problem is good Christian conservative women need to evangelize to other women in a way that they have not for at least half a century.
	If you don't do it, it's only going to get worse.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Enjoy the show tomorrow.
	We'll see you Monday.
	You have a lot of these directors, a lot of these actors are into satanic cults or weird stuff, man.
	Super weird stuff.
	And all of that turned out to be real.
	He's one of the best debaters that I have seen, and he covers a wide range of topics from Orthodox Christianity all the way to the occult in Hollywood.
	And that is Mr. Jay Dyer.
	You've written several books, and I think they're all titled Esoteric Hollywood.
	Is it conspiracy theories, or is it like really kind of stuff that's going on in Hollywood that we should be more aware of?
	It's all the above: the Pentagon, the military-industrial complex, CIA- you know, what's actually going on in Hollywood that isn't just intelligence agencies but also covers cults.
	So, the only people left to care about biblical theology were people who were going into evangelical Baptist seminaries.
	And the conservative Presbyterians or Lutherans were just such a minority throughout the decades of the last century that all those universities and seminaries that were evangelical were just bought off or, you know, propagandized.
	Most people don't know why they believe what they believe.
	Remember that.

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