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Oct. 24, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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Which Way Western Man: Zohran Mamdani & The Great Rice Debate 2025-10-24 18:05
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On location, because the left will use that as ammo and go, oh, see, this is just a kind of fake news.
Whereas if they just use like, you know, the image of the cocaine found, no one could accuse them of fake news.
Yeah.
So I feel like they need a better editor.
But that's just my opinion.
That is, dude, this administration is pretty unprofessional and also hilarious.
Yeah, when Carol answered your mom in that text, people were so mad.
I'm like, I love that she answered your mom.
Hilarious.
Can we, can I, before we do chat, could we ask research to pull in a video I was showing Tim earlier?
I don't know if you saw it, it was like it was yesterday or something.
They were asking Trump about whether he's going to ask Congress to, or why he shouldn't, why he won't ask Congress to declare war for this Venezuelan crap.
And his answer was perfect.
I don't know.
I wouldn't use perfect.
I'm a comedian.
It was pretty.
As a comedian, it's as good as it gets.
There's never been a funnier thing said by a president.
Okay, so the setup is they're asking him about they're asking him about whether he's going to declare war in Venezuela or continue business as usual.
All right.
And do we have a clip?
Yeah.
Not yet.
All right.
Well, let's grab a chat.
Yeah.
Before, because it's the weekend, so it's going to be all over.
Yeah, it's Friday.
I apologize.
Let us know if you guys like Friday or if it's too unprofessional.
We try and just loosen up a little bit.
We can make it less professional, too.
Like we have depths that we can sink to.
Include some of the comments in the chat guys who are pulling them so we know if we're doing this wrong.
All right.
All right.
First chat from Rizzy Page.
Question for Stephen.
Would having a set standard for living in America work to revive the American culture?
If so, what is considered American culture right now versus what it should be in practice?
Well, that's a pretty broad.
I'd have to create a whole list.
But I'll tell you what, before we have any type of official or any kind of enshrined culture, let's just do our best with shame right now.
Every single one of you can shame people for acting weird.
I don't know if we need laws dictating how people live their lives and stuff.
Of course not.
But we definitely should be able to call this out.
And we definitely should bring concern to people who are going to be running the biggest city in the country.
Yeah.
The most, if not the most important city in the world.
Right.
I will tell you this.
The leader of it, maybe he doesn't eat saucy rice with his hands.
Yeah.
Yes.
You know what?
I will tell you this.
Yeah.
There is distinctly, it's not just about people making about race.
It's about a high trust society.
And you see that largely in nations that are more homogenous because there's more of a shared commonality, and especially in white Christian European, North American, obviously, society.
So like I'm convinced that HOAs were made for two reasons.
One, for busybody Karens to have authority that they don't deserve, but also when you have a mixed, let's say, subdivision or something where people don't really know how they should act.
Because I will tell you, there's no HOA where I live and everything is pristine.
You know why?
It's almost entirely older white people who respect their stuff.
And since it's nice, they want to keep it nice for their neighbor.
Neighbors talk with each other.
They keep an eye on each other's houses.
It's a high trust environment.
And there is no HOA.
And it's nicer than places that have HOAs.
It's not a lot of cheap houses either.
You'd be surprised.
You'd be surprised because a lot of them, you know, they've been in the family for generations.
And some of them are in living trust.
It's like a big retirement community, but they've been living there forever.
I'm in an HOA, and thank goodness it's not a bad one.
Yeah.
We just had the election, one guy on his little blurb on the paper.
He said, I want to get back to standards in this HOA.
Some standards have been pretty relaxed and people aren't following the rules.
Like, oh, God, I'm going to vote for the crazy lady who named her son after Anakin Skywalker.
I'm voting for that lady because sometimes, you know, I leave my trash can out on Tuesdays.
Yeah.
I don't need some dickhead coming over and getting his ass beaten in my front yard.
No, exactly.
I understand the spirit of it because then you go to the wrong neighborhood, just, you know, you go a few blocks over and you see everyone leaves their trash everywhere.
Or like, you know, their method of disposal is just whipping it across the lawn.
But, you know, you do have plenty of places where there are no HOAs, but they're great neighborhoods.
And that was the rule rather than the exception for a very long time in this country.
Yeah, we used to care about our communities and be involved.
And I understand, like, this is actually kind of an interesting story because I think we've all experienced this where there's noise late at night or something like that.
A kid's out there making a bunch of noise.
And usually when I was growing, I didn't really care.
Now that I have kids, they're going to be woken up by the motorcycle at 3 a.m. going up and down the street.
I'm like, I care a lot.
Now you're the Grinch.
All the noise, noise.
It's not that.
Like, I have a lot of people.
There are buzzes and slongs look.
I have a lot of people.
I'm going to come.
No, that already happened.
But what I'm saying is 3 a.m.
Let us know if there's too unprofessional, chat.
I think I know the answer.
No, but at 3 a.m.
You know, I just gave a lot of grace.
Yeah.
And finally, I just went outside and I kind of looked at what was going on.
I'm like, all right, I don't feel like this is a dangerous situation.
Hey!
Yeah.
You know, come over.
And kids were very nice, very apologetic, you know, put it up, went away.
Right.
Put a stop.
I want everyone on the street reacting that way.
Of course.
Policing your community.
Not being mean to anybody.
You could just nicely go out and be like, hey, guys, too late.
Time to close it up.
Let's go.
And we don't have that anymore.
And I think that's missed.
That's a huge part of what's missing in our culture is that we just don't care enough about people around us to do something uncomfortable.
Now, there are certain situations where that might be dangerous.
And of course, you get plenty of white people who do that too.
Like my parents had.
These were white people that did that.
Yeah, this is fine.
I mean, this is just white people.
But let's be honest, if you're in a neighborhood where it's entirely people from, let's say, India, you don't have a prayer.
No.
You know what it's going to be like, and it's going to feel very foreign, and you are going to be unwelcome in your own neighborhood.
And people here know that well, right?
Do we have that clip of the answer?
All right, the Venezuelan answer.
And then we just have to grab two chats and go.
All right.
Here we go.
And, Mr. President, if you are declaring war against these cartels and Congress is likely to approve of that process, why not just ask for a declaration of war?
Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war.
I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country.
Okay, we're going to kill them.
You know, they're going to be like dead.
Okay.
No quarter.
Just bitch.
Just pizzas.
Please, please, please, just bitch.
I want to do a remix of like, no quarter, afuera, afuera, no quarter.
I love it.
Wasn't that perfect?
I was with my dead.
Okay.
They'll be like, dead.
You're going to kill him.
I was listening to a news briefing.
You know, I have this thing, and I was listening to it yesterday.
And it was in the other room.
And we were, so it was like on this kind of table we have.
And we were in the kitchen.
And I just hear like, later, later that afternoon.
And then we could just hear from across the house, knock war.
And we're just, she dropped a dish.
We were laughing so hard.
Nokwar!
Knock water.
And then I went.
And then I showed her guarantee like she wasn't familiar with it.
I was like, oh, yeah, guar.
I was like, oh, she's like, I was wondering about the Photoshop with the monsters.
I'm like, no, it wasn't Photoshop.
That's the band.
With the monsters.
Because you have to, if like, if you don't, if you're not familiar with it, it's very difficult to understand.
They are a monster.
It's Johnny Boy.
No quarrel.
No gwar.
They're just like, why not us?
All right.
A couple of chats.
All right.
Next chat from Samarachi.
Why is it you hear Allah Akbar before they blow something up?
Oh, and never when they get good grades, help the homeless, et cetera.
Josh and I were talking about.
Are you ever around Muslim people when they're helping the homeless or eating with their family or whatever the other one was?
Good grades.
I will say this.
Getting good grades.
There really aren't many Islamic charities, just to be clear.
Like they're not charitable people because they only help their own.
So it would be pretty closed circuit and you wouldn't be there to see.
Like there is no Islamic children's fund.
Like you see, Christian Children's Fund.
There is no wills on the pillar of Islam and charity, but I think, what is it, 2%?
I think it goes back into the community, though.
But specifically, the Islamic community.
They don't.
It's not like you're not going to see the general stuff.
Yeah.
Just like, you know, Christian American charities going to un-Christian nations in Africa, you know, because it'll be a missions trip, but they'll also build wells.
They'll dig wells or they'll build like a farm for them.
And it never works.
All right.
Next chat.
Well, and let me just really quickly, I get to that, you know, Allah Huakbara.
It's just saying that God is great.
And there's a lot of times in their lives where somebody gets saved or, you know, from a burning building or something, whatever.
You could scream that.
But listen, when you make it your calling card and then go sploaty, you can't be mad at us.
Yeah.
Okay.
For going, hey, I just, I want to keep my head on a swivel here if I ever hear that.
Yeah.
Okay.
If you live around them, though, you will, you'll hear it more often.
They say when they, after they pray and while they pray, and usually it's like, you know, they'll say it in, you know, mass gatherings and stuff.
Like if they're doing something together, they're celebrating something, they'll say it.
Yeah, I'll avoid that.
And yeah, I don't want to.
Yeah, I tend to not gather in their gatherings.
Yeah, well, I'm more of a juggalo gathering kind of guy.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
We're going to talk about that.
Final chat.
Final chat from Taylor and Rain.
Loves his Fanta.
America is a melting pot is a common phrase.
I have my views on what this means, but would love your take as well.
What does and doesn't this mean?
Well, I also know that people will talk about how the term.
Now, you're using it shorthand.
I know that people will say the term was coined by, I'm trying to remember the Jewish author somewhere there in the mid-day.
Some Russian Jews in the 20th century.
So I get it, but when we say, when someone says melting pot, I've used it in comparison to mosaic because I know that people understand the term.
It doesn't mean that that's part of our founding the actual doctrine of melting pot.
As far as describing what it's meant to sort of, it's meant to be an analogies.
A melting pot, think of it like a stew.
Everything goes in and you get one food.
A mosaic is different.
Think of it like a quilt, a different, what are they called?
The squares.
Oh, I don't know.
Patches?
A different patch and a different patch and a different patch and a different patch and a different patch.
So they're all separate, right?
And that's what you see in Europe.
That's why you have Sharia courts all over Europe.
You have the same thing in, for example, in Canada.
I was raised in the province of Quebec, where it's an English country, but Quebec is a French-speaking province because they were a conquered people, right?
They lost, I believe, in the plains of Abraham.
But for some odd reason, under the auspices of a mosaic, I'm just using the terms that people are familiar with.
It doesn't mean that I think we should call it a melting pot.
They said, okay, we'll let you have your own little enclave here, and we'll let you keep your language, and we'll let you keep your culture.
Well, now they've refused to assimilate, but they've had referendums and trying to separate from the rest of Canada, an English-speaking country.
So the concept of melting pot is supposed to be, you come here, sure, you came from another country, but you now take part in what is American culture.
Think of it as fusion cuisine.
It's now our culture.
And by the way, they blame the United States for being like, well, nothing's original here.
You could say that about any culture.
You could say that about any culture because they take from other cultures and then they adapt it and it becomes their own.
You could say it about cuisine all across South America.
You could say it for Europe.
You could say it in Asian cultures as well.
Right?
Think about, okay, people say there's still an argument over who came up with noodles first.
The Chinese claim it's theirs along with fireworks.
I don't give a shit.
I prefer Italian pasta.
I'm inclined to believe them, but I do prefer the pasta.
But we distinctly think of pasta, a lot of dishes, as Italian.
So you think there's new roads?
You think the tomato is another one, too.
You think of Italian food, think of tomato red sauce.
Yeah.
They didn't have tomatoes in Italy until they came here.
Tomatoes were discovered in South America by Columbus or some other douche.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly who did it, but somebody found tomatoes here, brought them back to Europe, and the Italians are like, piece of stuff is delicious.
Of course.
And then they made everything out of it.
Yeah.
And they made it better, honestly.
Yeah, they did a pretty good job.
They weren't doing anything with it here.
Just think of making face painting.
Think of how often you see Asian people smoking.
It's like all the time.
The Chinese people, they're always smoking.
They love it.
That was something that was here in Native America, usually tobacco.
And now we don't really grow it here all that much.
You grow like cheap cigarette tobacco, but most of the tobacco grows in South America.
So melting pot is, you are now American.
And yeah, we know what that culture is.
And the base, the bouillon, the stock, if you will, is Judeo-Christian founding, Christian principles, the Constitution, Bill of Rights.
That's the basis of it.
That's the basis of it.
Okay.
Yeah.
It used to be celery.
Now you're chicken soup.
Yep, exactly right.
Whereas everyone else is like, no, no, celery here and raisins here and rice here.
And it can never work.
And you can't have a functioning society that way.
You have to all take part in American culture at large.
Did they bring up research of the guy who, I can't remember.
Israel Zangwill?
Israel Zanguil.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Because now people say, and anyone who says melting pot is a shill for the juice.
Look, that's what someone said last week to me.
You're using a term that people are familiar with because you go, okay, melting pot versus mosaic.
These are two approaches to large countries that have different cultures.
Say it this way.
Melting pot means assimilate.
Mosaic means just come to just consider it a lease.
You're on the land and you can create your own little fiefdom.
Okay.
No, it's assimilate.
That's when we say melting pot.
We mean the assimilation into American culture.
And I believe it's the best culture.
Here's, I'll present to you exhibit A. Our number one export is culture.
The rest of the world knows our movie stars.
They know our programs and you don't know theirs most of the time.
Every now and then you'll get a squid games.
It's hard to tell the difference between the actors, but you're like, it's pretty cool.
Outside of that, they all know, like, a good example, Arnold Schwarzenegger, okay?
Came from Austria.
People know Terminator.
People know Predator.
People know that he was, people know the governator.
He is now American, despite his silly accent.
And I get it for your freedoms.
I'm not a fan, but I'm just making a point.
All right.
Give me one more chance.
Well, hold on.
If we have a second, let's pull up this quick story from the New York Post.
Apparently, Chinese own TikTok allegedly meddling in the mayoral race by boosting Mamdani content over Cuomo according to leaked documents.
Well, I was just interviewed by the New York Times yesterday, and that's funny.
I didn't really tell you.
It seemed to be pretty fair.
But at one point, he was talking, he was asking me about, I guess, leftists now wanting to do some debates.
He said, you know, he was asking me kind of because you started to change my mind and it sort of started this new genre.
He said, what do you think about people on the left now?
They're seeing this thing.
They want to start debates.
I said, please do.
Please do.
I said, as long as it's authentic and it's truthful, please do.
I don't know why they didn't do it for a very long time.
And the only thing I would say that was a little bit, a couple of things.
He tried to bait me.
He goes, well, and they also say, obviously, that it's very lucrative.
And the clicks are bigger on the right.
So I said, yeah, imagine if it was an even playing field.
He said, what?
I said, you just mentioned it.
He mentioned a guy, Dean something on TikTok.
Dean Withers?
Okay.
And I said, yeah, imagine if it was an even playing field because you just said, you know, my channel was 6 million or whatever.
Well, I've been banned from TikTok.
I mean, the age-old question, how many jokes can you make about Xi Xing Ping's penis?
I can answer four.
I was banned on TikTok.
I said, then I've been demonetized for seven or eight years.
I said, so they're seeing success in spite of the fact that the deck is stacked against us.
The analogy, the example I use is Michael Phelps.
Remember, he won all those medals.
And there was a famous profile where he said he ate McDonald's like three times or four times a week.
And then every dumb college student was like, oh, I'm going to eat McDonald's.
Like, no, dummy.
He didn't win because of McDonald's.
He won all these medals because even God wants him to swim exclusively.
He has the wingspan of an albatross and a size 34 shoe.
He won in spite of eating McDonald's.
Conservatives have gained ground with open debate forms conversations in spite of the fact that we have been shadow banned, that we have been demonetized.
I'm not even allowed on TikTok to be clip.
How well do you think it would do on TikTok?
It's like change, the stuff is tailor-made for it.
We can't do it.
I said, you said five, six million.
I said, sure.
You know, if it was a fair, we'd be at 20 million.
I can give you the numbers because before we were demonetized, an average of 100 to some months, 240,000 new subscribers a month.
I think the lowest was 80.
We were demonetized, went down to 10,000 subscribers a month.
Remonetized accidentally for about three months.
Remember, whoops.
Went back up to 80 to 120,000 new subscribers a month.
Demonetized, went back down to 5,000.
Like clockwork.
I said, so I said, if they're doing this because they're going, oh, well, you know, the conservatives have been really effective.
So we, well, if they don't understand that it's in spite of it being stacked against, well, you know what?
They might be in for a rude awakening.
It should be really, really easy for them.
It's been more lucrative on the right for you.
Oh, is it lucrative if I'm not making money?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Lucrative for who?
YouTube, who's still getting the money from the advertisers and not giving it to me?
Outside of calling for death, leftists don't lose sponsors.
And even when that happens, sometimes they still don't.
If you were to add up, just think about it, oh, it's lucrative.
Would we say at least $10 million over the last seven, eight years?
Oh, but YouTube demonetized?
Gone.
We're funded by you.
We're funded by people who buy mugs and tune in and a sponsor a day.
These people, I mean, they are completely unfettered.
For crying all over, YouTube was co-producing alongside Vox, which was the reason for the demonetization.
So I don't know how I got on this conversation.
We were talking about something.
New York Post article that TikTok is favoring Momdani.
Shocker.
Because the left's playing and they go, see, this is what, now they want to push for legislation.
Like you hear Robert DeNio.
Oh, these people are getting this misinformation.
Well, here's the thing.
You guys did everything you could.
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, MSNBC.
One point in time, Facebook, Instagram, Meta, all of it.
YouTube, Google, all of it.
Twitter, all of it.
Apple, Spotify, Microsoft, all of it.
All of it.
And we saw people de-platformed repeatedly within the span of a day on all those platforms.
So you've done everything you possibly can and colluded with the government to try and make sure that our voices don't get out there.
And they have.
And the left still plays victim.
Think about that.
So that's what they're saying.
That's what they're playing now.
They're going, we're going to start having these conversations, these debates.
Of course, they don't do it unedited.
He asked me too about Jubilee.
And he was like, why haven't you been on?
I said, I want to throw them under the bus.
They might have reached out.
He said, it's kind of like what you do.
He said, honestly, it feels more, he said, more formulaic, more entertainment.
Like your own side can buzz you and vote you out.
And it's really kind of clipped.
I said, oh, so it's like, change my mind, meet Survivor with a timer.
He said, yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
And he did ask me, he said, but you know, do you think it hurts?
He said, and this is the thing.
I think he was pretty fair.
He said, I have seen, you know, watch the change of minds, and they're quite a bit different from other people long form.
He said, but you know, you know that it's going to get clipped and then that's going to create division because, you know, it'll become like a dunking thing.
I said, I do know that there are people out there who do that.
You can't say that about me because when I started it, there was no TikTok.
There were no YouTube shorts.
It wasn't a thing.
People either watched all of it or didn't.
So, I get that you could say that about these other people, but you can't paint me into that corner.
I think he was a decent guy.
I think it'll be fair.
But I tell you what, the left really doesn't know.
They really don't know the deficit that they've created for themselves right now.
And they try and lie to themselves and say, you know what, we're victims.
That's what it is.
They actually believe people on the left right now that Dean, whatever, these people, they're actually out there saying, well, if big tech and the media wasn't so far right-wing, we'd have as many subscribers as Steven Crowder.
Take your best shot.
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