Louder with Crowder - Which Way Western Man: Zohran Mamdani & The Great Rice Debate 2025-10-24 18:05 Aired: 2025-10-24 Duration: 20:23 === White Noise War (09:31) === [00:00:00] On location, because the left will use that as ammo and go, oh, see, this is just a kind of fake news. [00:00:04] Whereas if they just use like, you know, the image of the cocaine found, no one could accuse them of fake news. [00:00:10] Yeah. [00:00:10] So I feel like they need a better editor. [00:00:13] But that's just my opinion. [00:00:14] That is, dude, this administration is pretty unprofessional and also hilarious. [00:00:19] Yeah, when Carol answered your mom in that text, people were so mad. [00:00:23] I'm like, I love that she answered your mom. [00:00:24] Hilarious. [00:00:25] Can we, can I, before we do chat, could we ask research to pull in a video I was showing Tim earlier? [00:00:30] I don't know if you saw it, it was like it was yesterday or something. [00:00:32] They were asking Trump about whether he's going to ask Congress to, or why he shouldn't, why he won't ask Congress to declare war for this Venezuelan crap. [00:00:41] And his answer was perfect. [00:00:44] I don't know. [00:00:45] I wouldn't use perfect. [00:00:47] I'm a comedian. [00:00:48] It was pretty. [00:00:49] As a comedian, it's as good as it gets. [00:00:51] There's never been a funnier thing said by a president. [00:00:53] Okay, so the setup is they're asking him about they're asking him about whether he's going to declare war in Venezuela or continue business as usual. [00:01:01] All right. [00:01:02] And do we have a clip? [00:01:04] Yeah. [00:01:04] Not yet. [00:01:05] All right. [00:01:05] Well, let's grab a chat. [00:01:06] Yeah. [00:01:07] Before, because it's the weekend, so it's going to be all over. [00:01:09] Yeah, it's Friday. [00:01:09] I apologize. [00:01:10] Let us know if you guys like Friday or if it's too unprofessional. [00:01:15] We try and just loosen up a little bit. [00:01:17] We can make it less professional, too. [00:01:19] Like we have depths that we can sink to. [00:01:21] Include some of the comments in the chat guys who are pulling them so we know if we're doing this wrong. [00:01:26] All right. [00:01:26] All right. [00:01:27] First chat from Rizzy Page. [00:01:29] Question for Stephen. [00:01:30] Would having a set standard for living in America work to revive the American culture? [00:01:34] If so, what is considered American culture right now versus what it should be in practice? [00:01:39] Well, that's a pretty broad. [00:01:40] I'd have to create a whole list. [00:01:42] But I'll tell you what, before we have any type of official or any kind of enshrined culture, let's just do our best with shame right now. [00:01:51] Every single one of you can shame people for acting weird. [00:01:56] I don't know if we need laws dictating how people live their lives and stuff. [00:02:02] Of course not. [00:02:03] But we definitely should be able to call this out. [00:02:07] And we definitely should bring concern to people who are going to be running the biggest city in the country. [00:02:12] Yeah. [00:02:12] The most, if not the most important city in the world. [00:02:16] Right. [00:02:17] I will tell you this. [00:02:18] The leader of it, maybe he doesn't eat saucy rice with his hands. [00:02:21] Yeah. [00:02:22] Yes. [00:02:22] You know what? [00:02:22] I will tell you this. [00:02:23] Yeah. [00:02:24] There is distinctly, it's not just about people making about race. [00:02:27] It's about a high trust society. [00:02:29] And you see that largely in nations that are more homogenous because there's more of a shared commonality, and especially in white Christian European, North American, obviously, society. [00:02:41] So like I'm convinced that HOAs were made for two reasons. [00:02:45] One, for busybody Karens to have authority that they don't deserve, but also when you have a mixed, let's say, subdivision or something where people don't really know how they should act. [00:02:56] Because I will tell you, there's no HOA where I live and everything is pristine. [00:03:00] You know why? [00:03:00] It's almost entirely older white people who respect their stuff. [00:03:05] And since it's nice, they want to keep it nice for their neighbor. [00:03:08] Neighbors talk with each other. [00:03:09] They keep an eye on each other's houses. [00:03:11] It's a high trust environment. [00:03:13] And there is no HOA. [00:03:14] And it's nicer than places that have HOAs. [00:03:16] It's not a lot of cheap houses either. [00:03:18] You'd be surprised. [00:03:19] You'd be surprised because a lot of them, you know, they've been in the family for generations. [00:03:23] And some of them are in living trust. [00:03:24] It's like a big retirement community, but they've been living there forever. [00:03:27] I'm in an HOA, and thank goodness it's not a bad one. [00:03:30] Yeah. [00:03:30] We just had the election, one guy on his little blurb on the paper. [00:03:35] He said, I want to get back to standards in this HOA. [00:03:38] Some standards have been pretty relaxed and people aren't following the rules. [00:03:41] Like, oh, God, I'm going to vote for the crazy lady who named her son after Anakin Skywalker. [00:03:45] I'm voting for that lady because sometimes, you know, I leave my trash can out on Tuesdays. [00:03:51] Yeah. [00:03:51] I don't need some dickhead coming over and getting his ass beaten in my front yard. [00:03:55] No, exactly. [00:03:55] I understand the spirit of it because then you go to the wrong neighborhood, just, you know, you go a few blocks over and you see everyone leaves their trash everywhere. [00:04:01] Or like, you know, their method of disposal is just whipping it across the lawn. [00:04:06] But, you know, you do have plenty of places where there are no HOAs, but they're great neighborhoods. [00:04:11] And that was the rule rather than the exception for a very long time in this country. [00:04:16] Yeah, we used to care about our communities and be involved. [00:04:19] And I understand, like, this is actually kind of an interesting story because I think we've all experienced this where there's noise late at night or something like that. [00:04:26] A kid's out there making a bunch of noise. [00:04:28] And usually when I was growing, I didn't really care. [00:04:30] Now that I have kids, they're going to be woken up by the motorcycle at 3 a.m. going up and down the street. [00:04:34] I'm like, I care a lot. [00:04:35] Now you're the Grinch. [00:04:36] All the noise, noise. [00:04:39] It's not that. [00:04:39] Like, I have a lot of people. [00:04:40] There are buzzes and slongs look. [00:04:42] I have a lot of people. [00:04:43] I'm going to come. [00:04:46] No, that already happened. [00:04:46] But what I'm saying is 3 a.m. [00:04:52] Let us know if there's too unprofessional, chat. [00:04:56] I think I know the answer. [00:04:58] No, but at 3 a.m. [00:04:59] You know, I just gave a lot of grace. [00:05:02] Yeah. [00:05:03] And finally, I just went outside and I kind of looked at what was going on. [00:05:05] I'm like, all right, I don't feel like this is a dangerous situation. [00:05:08] Hey! [00:05:09] Yeah. [00:05:10] You know, come over. [00:05:10] And kids were very nice, very apologetic, you know, put it up, went away. [00:05:15] Right. [00:05:15] Put a stop. [00:05:16] I want everyone on the street reacting that way. [00:05:19] Of course. [00:05:19] Policing your community. [00:05:20] Not being mean to anybody. [00:05:22] You could just nicely go out and be like, hey, guys, too late. [00:05:24] Time to close it up. [00:05:24] Let's go. [00:05:26] And we don't have that anymore. [00:05:28] And I think that's missed. [00:05:29] That's a huge part of what's missing in our culture is that we just don't care enough about people around us to do something uncomfortable. [00:05:34] Now, there are certain situations where that might be dangerous. [00:05:37] And of course, you get plenty of white people who do that too. [00:05:39] Like my parents had. [00:05:41] These were white people that did that. [00:05:42] Yeah, this is fine. [00:05:43] I mean, this is just white people. [00:05:44] But let's be honest, if you're in a neighborhood where it's entirely people from, let's say, India, you don't have a prayer. [00:05:50] No. [00:05:50] You know what it's going to be like, and it's going to feel very foreign, and you are going to be unwelcome in your own neighborhood. [00:05:57] And people here know that well, right? [00:05:59] Do we have that clip of the answer? [00:06:00] All right, the Venezuelan answer. [00:06:01] And then we just have to grab two chats and go. [00:06:03] All right. [00:06:04] Here we go. [00:06:04] And, Mr. President, if you are declaring war against these cartels and Congress is likely to approve of that process, why not just ask for a declaration of war? [00:06:15] Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. [00:06:19] I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. [00:06:24] Okay, we're going to kill them. [00:06:25] You know, they're going to be like dead. [00:06:27] Okay. [00:06:32] No quarter. [00:06:35] Just bitch. [00:06:36] Just pizzas. [00:06:37] Please, please, please, just bitch. [00:06:39] I want to do a remix of like, no quarter, afuera, afuera, no quarter. [00:06:46] I love it. [00:06:47] Wasn't that perfect? [00:06:48] I was with my dead. [00:06:51] Okay. [00:06:51] They'll be like, dead. [00:06:55] You're going to kill him. [00:06:56] I was listening to a news briefing. [00:06:57] You know, I have this thing, and I was listening to it yesterday. [00:07:01] And it was in the other room. [00:07:02] And we were, so it was like on this kind of table we have. [00:07:06] And we were in the kitchen. [00:07:07] And I just hear like, later, later that afternoon. [00:07:10] And then we could just hear from across the house, knock war. [00:07:13] And we're just, she dropped a dish. [00:07:16] We were laughing so hard. [00:07:18] Nokwar! [00:07:19] Knock water. [00:07:21] And then I went. [00:07:22] And then I showed her guarantee like she wasn't familiar with it. [00:07:24] I was like, oh, yeah, guar. [00:07:26] I was like, oh, she's like, I was wondering about the Photoshop with the monsters. [00:07:29] I'm like, no, it wasn't Photoshop. [00:07:30] That's the band. [00:07:30] With the monsters. [00:07:32] Because you have to, if like, if you don't, if you're not familiar with it, it's very difficult to understand. [00:07:36] They are a monster. [00:07:37] It's Johnny Boy. [00:07:38] No quarrel. [00:07:39] No gwar. [00:07:40] They're just like, why not us? [00:07:44] All right. [00:07:44] A couple of chats. [00:07:45] All right. [00:07:45] Next chat from Samarachi. [00:07:48] Why is it you hear Allah Akbar before they blow something up? [00:07:51] Oh, and never when they get good grades, help the homeless, et cetera. [00:07:54] Josh and I were talking about. [00:07:55] Are you ever around Muslim people when they're helping the homeless or eating with their family or whatever the other one was? [00:08:02] Good grades. [00:08:02] I will say this. [00:08:03] Getting good grades. [00:08:04] There really aren't many Islamic charities, just to be clear. [00:08:06] Like they're not charitable people because they only help their own. [00:08:09] So it would be pretty closed circuit and you wouldn't be there to see. [00:08:13] Like there is no Islamic children's fund. [00:08:16] Like you see, Christian Children's Fund. [00:08:17] There is no wills on the pillar of Islam and charity, but I think, what is it, 2%? [00:08:22] I think it goes back into the community, though. [00:08:24] But specifically, the Islamic community. [00:08:26] They don't. [00:08:27] It's not like you're not going to see the general stuff. [00:08:29] Yeah. [00:08:30] Just like, you know, Christian American charities going to un-Christian nations in Africa, you know, because it'll be a missions trip, but they'll also build wells. [00:08:39] They'll dig wells or they'll build like a farm for them. [00:08:42] And it never works. [00:08:43] All right. [00:08:43] Next chat. [00:08:44] Well, and let me just really quickly, I get to that, you know, Allah Huakbara. [00:08:47] It's just saying that God is great. [00:08:48] And there's a lot of times in their lives where somebody gets saved or, you know, from a burning building or something, whatever. [00:08:53] You could scream that. [00:08:54] But listen, when you make it your calling card and then go sploaty, you can't be mad at us. [00:08:58] Yeah. [00:08:59] Okay. [00:08:59] For going, hey, I just, I want to keep my head on a swivel here if I ever hear that. [00:09:02] Yeah. [00:09:02] Okay. [00:09:03] If you live around them, though, you will, you'll hear it more often. [00:09:06] They say when they, after they pray and while they pray, and usually it's like, you know, they'll say it in, you know, mass gatherings and stuff. [00:09:13] Like if they're doing something together, they're celebrating something, they'll say it. [00:09:16] Yeah, I'll avoid that. === Melting Pot vs. Mosaic (05:17) === [00:09:17] And yeah, I don't want to. [00:09:19] Yeah, I tend to not gather in their gatherings. [00:09:23] Yeah, well, I'm more of a juggalo gathering kind of guy. [00:09:26] Yeah, I know. [00:09:27] Yeah. [00:09:27] We're going to talk about that. [00:09:28] Final chat. [00:09:30] Final chat from Taylor and Rain. [00:09:32] Loves his Fanta. [00:09:34] America is a melting pot is a common phrase. [00:09:37] I have my views on what this means, but would love your take as well. [00:09:40] What does and doesn't this mean? [00:09:41] Well, I also know that people will talk about how the term. [00:09:43] Now, you're using it shorthand. [00:09:45] I know that people will say the term was coined by, I'm trying to remember the Jewish author somewhere there in the mid-day. [00:09:51] Some Russian Jews in the 20th century. [00:09:53] So I get it, but when we say, when someone says melting pot, I've used it in comparison to mosaic because I know that people understand the term. [00:09:59] It doesn't mean that that's part of our founding the actual doctrine of melting pot. [00:10:05] As far as describing what it's meant to sort of, it's meant to be an analogies. [00:10:11] A melting pot, think of it like a stew. [00:10:13] Everything goes in and you get one food. [00:10:16] A mosaic is different. [00:10:17] Think of it like a quilt, a different, what are they called? [00:10:22] The squares. [00:10:22] Oh, I don't know. [00:10:23] Patches? [00:10:24] A different patch and a different patch and a different patch and a different patch and a different patch. [00:10:27] So they're all separate, right? [00:10:29] And that's what you see in Europe. [00:10:31] That's why you have Sharia courts all over Europe. [00:10:34] You have the same thing in, for example, in Canada. [00:10:35] I was raised in the province of Quebec, where it's an English country, but Quebec is a French-speaking province because they were a conquered people, right? [00:10:43] They lost, I believe, in the plains of Abraham. [00:10:45] But for some odd reason, under the auspices of a mosaic, I'm just using the terms that people are familiar with. [00:10:51] It doesn't mean that I think we should call it a melting pot. [00:10:54] They said, okay, we'll let you have your own little enclave here, and we'll let you keep your language, and we'll let you keep your culture. [00:10:59] Well, now they've refused to assimilate, but they've had referendums and trying to separate from the rest of Canada, an English-speaking country. [00:11:04] So the concept of melting pot is supposed to be, you come here, sure, you came from another country, but you now take part in what is American culture. [00:11:14] Think of it as fusion cuisine. [00:11:16] It's now our culture. [00:11:18] And by the way, they blame the United States for being like, well, nothing's original here. [00:11:22] You could say that about any culture. [00:11:23] You could say that about any culture because they take from other cultures and then they adapt it and it becomes their own. [00:11:28] You could say it about cuisine all across South America. [00:11:31] You could say it for Europe. [00:11:32] You could say it in Asian cultures as well. [00:11:36] Right? [00:11:36] Think about, okay, people say there's still an argument over who came up with noodles first. [00:11:40] The Chinese claim it's theirs along with fireworks. [00:11:42] I don't give a shit. [00:11:43] I prefer Italian pasta. [00:11:44] I'm inclined to believe them, but I do prefer the pasta. [00:11:48] But we distinctly think of pasta, a lot of dishes, as Italian. [00:11:51] So you think there's new roads? [00:11:53] You think the tomato is another one, too. [00:11:54] You think of Italian food, think of tomato red sauce. [00:11:57] Yeah. [00:11:58] They didn't have tomatoes in Italy until they came here. [00:12:01] Tomatoes were discovered in South America by Columbus or some other douche. [00:12:04] I don't know. [00:12:06] I don't know exactly who did it, but somebody found tomatoes here, brought them back to Europe, and the Italians are like, piece of stuff is delicious. [00:12:13] Of course. [00:12:13] And then they made everything out of it. [00:12:15] Yeah. [00:12:15] And they made it better, honestly. [00:12:16] Yeah, they did a pretty good job. [00:12:17] They weren't doing anything with it here. [00:12:19] Just think of making face painting. [00:12:20] Think of how often you see Asian people smoking. [00:12:23] It's like all the time. [00:12:24] The Chinese people, they're always smoking. [00:12:25] They love it. [00:12:26] That was something that was here in Native America, usually tobacco. [00:12:28] And now we don't really grow it here all that much. [00:12:30] You grow like cheap cigarette tobacco, but most of the tobacco grows in South America. [00:12:33] So melting pot is, you are now American. [00:12:36] And yeah, we know what that culture is. [00:12:38] And the base, the bouillon, the stock, if you will, is Judeo-Christian founding, Christian principles, the Constitution, Bill of Rights. [00:12:50] That's the basis of it. [00:12:51] That's the basis of it. [00:12:52] Okay. [00:12:53] Yeah. [00:12:53] It used to be celery. [00:12:54] Now you're chicken soup. [00:12:55] Yep, exactly right. [00:12:56] Whereas everyone else is like, no, no, celery here and raisins here and rice here. [00:13:00] And it can never work. [00:13:02] And you can't have a functioning society that way. [00:13:04] You have to all take part in American culture at large. [00:13:08] Did they bring up research of the guy who, I can't remember. [00:13:11] Israel Zangwill? [00:13:12] Israel Zanguil. [00:13:13] Is that it? [00:13:13] Yeah. [00:13:13] Because now people say, and anyone who says melting pot is a shill for the juice. [00:13:16] Look, that's what someone said last week to me. [00:13:19] You're using a term that people are familiar with because you go, okay, melting pot versus mosaic. [00:13:23] These are two approaches to large countries that have different cultures. [00:13:28] Say it this way. [00:13:29] Melting pot means assimilate. [00:13:32] Mosaic means just come to just consider it a lease. [00:13:36] You're on the land and you can create your own little fiefdom. [00:13:39] Okay. [00:13:40] No, it's assimilate. [00:13:41] That's when we say melting pot. [00:13:42] We mean the assimilation into American culture. [00:13:45] And I believe it's the best culture. [00:13:47] Here's, I'll present to you exhibit A. Our number one export is culture. [00:13:52] The rest of the world knows our movie stars. [00:13:55] They know our programs and you don't know theirs most of the time. [00:13:58] Every now and then you'll get a squid games. [00:14:00] It's hard to tell the difference between the actors, but you're like, it's pretty cool. [00:14:04] Outside of that, they all know, like, a good example, Arnold Schwarzenegger, okay? [00:14:09] Came from Austria. [00:14:10] People know Terminator. [00:14:12] People know Predator. [00:14:13] People know that he was, people know the governator. [00:14:15] He is now American, despite his silly accent. [00:14:18] And I get it for your freedoms. [00:14:19] I'm not a fan, but I'm just making a point. === Why Leftists Seek Debates (06:03) === [00:14:21] All right. [00:14:22] Give me one more chance. [00:14:22] Well, hold on. [00:14:23] If we have a second, let's pull up this quick story from the New York Post. [00:14:26] Apparently, Chinese own TikTok allegedly meddling in the mayoral race by boosting Mamdani content over Cuomo according to leaked documents. [00:14:35] Well, I was just interviewed by the New York Times yesterday, and that's funny. [00:14:40] I didn't really tell you. [00:14:40] It seemed to be pretty fair. [00:14:42] But at one point, he was talking, he was asking me about, I guess, leftists now wanting to do some debates. [00:14:50] He said, you know, he was asking me kind of because you started to change my mind and it sort of started this new genre. [00:14:54] He said, what do you think about people on the left now? [00:14:56] They're seeing this thing. [00:14:57] They want to start debates. [00:14:57] I said, please do. [00:14:59] Please do. [00:15:00] I said, as long as it's authentic and it's truthful, please do. [00:15:04] I don't know why they didn't do it for a very long time. [00:15:06] And the only thing I would say that was a little bit, a couple of things. [00:15:09] He tried to bait me. [00:15:10] He goes, well, and they also say, obviously, that it's very lucrative. [00:15:13] And the clicks are bigger on the right. [00:15:15] So I said, yeah, imagine if it was an even playing field. [00:15:19] He said, what? [00:15:20] I said, you just mentioned it. [00:15:21] He mentioned a guy, Dean something on TikTok. [00:15:24] Dean Withers? [00:15:25] Okay. [00:15:26] And I said, yeah, imagine if it was an even playing field because you just said, you know, my channel was 6 million or whatever. [00:15:31] Well, I've been banned from TikTok. [00:15:33] I mean, the age-old question, how many jokes can you make about Xi Xing Ping's penis? [00:15:36] I can answer four. [00:15:37] I was banned on TikTok. [00:15:38] I said, then I've been demonetized for seven or eight years. [00:15:42] I said, so they're seeing success in spite of the fact that the deck is stacked against us. [00:15:47] The analogy, the example I use is Michael Phelps. [00:15:50] Remember, he won all those medals. [00:15:52] And there was a famous profile where he said he ate McDonald's like three times or four times a week. [00:15:56] And then every dumb college student was like, oh, I'm going to eat McDonald's. [00:15:58] Like, no, dummy. [00:15:59] He didn't win because of McDonald's. [00:16:01] He won all these medals because even God wants him to swim exclusively. [00:16:06] He has the wingspan of an albatross and a size 34 shoe. [00:16:10] He won in spite of eating McDonald's. [00:16:13] Conservatives have gained ground with open debate forms conversations in spite of the fact that we have been shadow banned, that we have been demonetized. [00:16:23] I'm not even allowed on TikTok to be clip. [00:16:26] How well do you think it would do on TikTok? [00:16:27] It's like change, the stuff is tailor-made for it. [00:16:30] We can't do it. [00:16:31] I said, you said five, six million. [00:16:32] I said, sure. [00:16:33] You know, if it was a fair, we'd be at 20 million. [00:16:35] I can give you the numbers because before we were demonetized, an average of 100 to some months, 240,000 new subscribers a month. [00:16:43] I think the lowest was 80. [00:16:44] We were demonetized, went down to 10,000 subscribers a month. [00:16:47] Remonetized accidentally for about three months. [00:16:49] Remember, whoops. [00:16:51] Went back up to 80 to 120,000 new subscribers a month. [00:16:53] Demonetized, went back down to 5,000. [00:16:56] Like clockwork. [00:16:58] I said, so I said, if they're doing this because they're going, oh, well, you know, the conservatives have been really effective. [00:17:04] So we, well, if they don't understand that it's in spite of it being stacked against, well, you know what? [00:17:09] They might be in for a rude awakening. [00:17:11] It should be really, really easy for them. [00:17:12] It's been more lucrative on the right for you. [00:17:15] Oh, is it lucrative if I'm not making money? [00:17:18] Yeah. [00:17:19] Yeah, exactly. [00:17:19] Lucrative for who? [00:17:20] YouTube, who's still getting the money from the advertisers and not giving it to me? [00:17:24] Outside of calling for death, leftists don't lose sponsors. [00:17:28] And even when that happens, sometimes they still don't. [00:17:31] If you were to add up, just think about it, oh, it's lucrative. [00:17:35] Would we say at least $10 million over the last seven, eight years? [00:17:39] Oh, but YouTube demonetized? [00:17:41] Gone. [00:17:42] We're funded by you. [00:17:43] We're funded by people who buy mugs and tune in and a sponsor a day. [00:17:48] These people, I mean, they are completely unfettered. [00:17:51] For crying all over, YouTube was co-producing alongside Vox, which was the reason for the demonetization. [00:17:57] So I don't know how I got on this conversation. [00:17:59] We were talking about something. [00:17:59] New York Post article that TikTok is favoring Momdani. [00:18:02] Shocker. [00:18:03] Because the left's playing and they go, see, this is what, now they want to push for legislation. [00:18:06] Like you hear Robert DeNio. [00:18:07] Oh, these people are getting this misinformation. [00:18:10] Well, here's the thing. [00:18:11] You guys did everything you could. [00:18:12] ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, MSNBC. [00:18:16] One point in time, Facebook, Instagram, Meta, all of it. [00:18:21] YouTube, Google, all of it. [00:18:22] Twitter, all of it. [00:18:23] Apple, Spotify, Microsoft, all of it. [00:18:28] All of it. [00:18:29] And we saw people de-platformed repeatedly within the span of a day on all those platforms. [00:18:35] So you've done everything you possibly can and colluded with the government to try and make sure that our voices don't get out there. [00:18:42] And they have. [00:18:44] And the left still plays victim. [00:18:46] Think about that. [00:18:47] So that's what they're saying. [00:18:48] That's what they're playing now. [00:18:49] They're going, we're going to start having these conversations, these debates. [00:18:51] Of course, they don't do it unedited. [00:18:53] He asked me too about Jubilee. [00:18:56] And he was like, why haven't you been on? [00:18:57] I said, I want to throw them under the bus. [00:18:58] They might have reached out. [00:18:59] He said, it's kind of like what you do. [00:19:00] He said, honestly, it feels more, he said, more formulaic, more entertainment. [00:19:05] Like your own side can buzz you and vote you out. [00:19:08] And it's really kind of clipped. [00:19:10] I said, oh, so it's like, change my mind, meet Survivor with a timer. [00:19:13] He said, yeah, pretty much. [00:19:15] Yeah. [00:19:15] And he did ask me, he said, but you know, do you think it hurts? [00:19:18] He said, and this is the thing. [00:19:19] I think he was pretty fair. [00:19:21] He said, I have seen, you know, watch the change of minds, and they're quite a bit different from other people long form. [00:19:25] He said, but you know, you know that it's going to get clipped and then that's going to create division because, you know, it'll become like a dunking thing. [00:19:32] I said, I do know that there are people out there who do that. [00:19:37] You can't say that about me because when I started it, there was no TikTok. [00:19:41] There were no YouTube shorts. [00:19:42] It wasn't a thing. [00:19:44] People either watched all of it or didn't. [00:19:47] So, I get that you could say that about these other people, but you can't paint me into that corner. [00:19:51] I think he was a decent guy. [00:19:52] I think it'll be fair. [00:19:54] But I tell you what, the left really doesn't know. [00:19:57] They really don't know the deficit that they've created for themselves right now. [00:20:02] And they try and lie to themselves and say, you know what, we're victims. [00:20:06] That's what it is. [00:20:07] They actually believe people on the left right now that Dean, whatever, these people, they're actually out there saying, well, if big tech and the media wasn't so far right-wing, we'd have as many subscribers as Steven Crowder. [00:20:22] Take your best shot.