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Oct. 16, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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Facts Based "Racism" | Black & White on the Gray Issues Pt. 2 2025-10-16 18:05
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Where she said, I would never be at UT if not for affirmative action.
I said, affirmative, and I believe it.
Affirmative action is racist, by its definition, my opinion.
It excludes on race.
That is a form of racism.
So anyway, she sat down, she said, I'm a black girl.
She said, but if it wasn't for affirmative action, she said, I wouldn't be here at UT.
I said, why do you say that?
She said, well, because I wouldn't be allowed.
I said, well, what were your SATs?
Remember the numbers?
They were very impressive.
I said, what was your GPA?
It was very impressive.
It was over 4.0.
I said, that's really sad to me that you don't know, and you'll never know that you deserve to be here because I can tell you, based on if you're telling me the truth, you of course would get into UT.
And you didn't need a government program.
And you could see in her face, her tears welled up because she had been told that she needed someone else to give it to her.
And that removed her sense of pride in her accomplishments.
So I said the exact same thing as Charlie did, saying, you can never know if you earned it a meritocracy because of DEI.
And she changed her mind.
And she said, you know what?
I should be here and I don't need DEI.
Or affirmative action.
And that mutation in order to believe that.
Yeah, in that particular instance.
And certainly not from a white guy.
In that particular instance, it might have been completely accurate.
But there's also, if you want to acknowledge that there's a flip side to the coin, right?
There's also a lot of people who had the qualifications who didn't get the access because, once again, their name appeared wrong on the resume.
Your name was Katanji.
Well, we know who that is.
Let's go with Alice.
She is an idiot and she got the job based on the side.
That's why affirmative action had to be instituted in the first place.
Now, did it operate correctly all the time?
No.
But that's what I'm saying.
Just because it didn't operate correctly all the time, you're going to take the few instances where it didn't.
And the majority of the people who are in the city of the world.
What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk, I agree.
What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk was making a point.
And the point that he was making, I'm trying to say is the same point that I was making where this black girl agreed with it, where he was saying, if you say that I'm only here because of DEI, then I am going to believe you.
That's what he's saying.
And that's a valid point.
And it's not hateful.
And in doing that, you have the responsibility in your words to not have to say the words, Morani, black woman.
You could have just said, if I'm on, like you said, you just perfectly summed it up.
If I'm on the phone with a customer service agent and she's a moron, perfect.
Why does she have to be qualified as black?
Because he was addressing DEI.
That's the point.
But do you understand this?
Do you understand how that's going to affect anybody who hears it?
No.
My insensitive.
Okay, then I'm insensitive.
If someone is addressing DEI in a conversation and is asked about it, where race is relevant as per the policy, DEI, it exists based on race.
You can't blame someone for acknowledging the race and criticizing the policy.
But the policy was created because race was being changed to exclude.
Fine.
Then don't say that it's wrong for me to acknowledge the race.
He was making the point about a race-based initiative.
That's why he told the race.
You see the choice in words he had to use?
And once again, our responsibility in our choice of words is what creates a response in other people.
I could say certain things to you, the way I say it can either give you a good vibe or a bad one.
And you can't respond a certain way.
Yeah, but who cares?
That doesn't make someone a racist.
It doesn't, but I'm saying, when people do things knowing that we're in a heightened inflammatory time and you do it on purpose and just stand behind, I'm whatever.
It don't make me a racist, but I'm saying that y'all ain't shit.
Whatever.
But he never said that.
Whatever.
No, but that matters because believing those lies is why someone killed women in a certain context.
And then I'm not expecting nobody to get upset by that.
Let me, I do have to get, but let me just, because Charlie Kirk is a big thing.
Let me just kind of, maybe if you could just listen to this, because this is important.
And I've been through it, and you're just seeing the actual murder that got through.
Right.
I mean, I've had concrete milkshakes, someone tried to bash rubber that was a rock.
I've had people try to firebomb my car, slash my tires.
I've had terrorists show up from Yemen by way of Sweden to the local PD showed up.
Like, actually, I'm on the ICE kill list.
It's a real thing, Charlie was a little bit more.
All the stuff Dr. King and Malcolm X was dealing with.
Go ahead, finish.
Sure, great.
And I think it was wrong that he was taking probably the CIA involvement too.
I think we probably all agree on that, the MLK, right?
Yeah, it's wrong.
We can say it's all wrong.
But if you add it up, okay, where you believe the lie that he said something racist, let's just take that, okay?
There's some hate put out there against Charlie Kirk that's not true.
If someone believes the lie that he wants to erase trans people, that's what people are also told.
If he wants to erase trans people, which is a lie, that person hates him too.
If someone believes that he's a fascist or he's a Nazi, doesn't believe we should hold democratic elections, which is a lie, and people believe that, hey, that adds another piece of hatred and justification too.
If someone believes that he's a misogynist, a sexist, he doesn't think that women should be allowed to vote or have the right to earn their place in the workplace.
And every single one of them is dishonest, just like no one here knew that Donald Trump said, I condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis totally.
I still don't know that he said it.
I hear you saying he said it, but I'd have to go see it in order to know.
Okay, so let's assume for a second that I'm not lying.
And right after this, I make the references available always.
And you see that.
And let's assume that I'm not lying and Charlie Kirk wasn't racist.
And let's assume that he didn't want to commit genocide against trans people.
And let's assume for a second that I'm not lying and there's a 12 times murder rate from black toward white people as opposed to white towards.
Let's assume that I'm not lying about any of this because I'm kind of good at it and I know these numbers and it's what I do.
Wouldn't we acknowledge that, hey, why?
Why do so many people believe these lies?
I guarantee you this right here, this conversation, you will read in the media that this was racist.
Because I sat down and discussed race issues.
Because I sat down and argued with black people.
I've been accused of being a Nazi because of sitting down and having conversations.
Well, you should know that's offensive.
That's not my responsibility.
I'm actually having a conversation, and so did Charlie.
And he was shot for it and vilified for it.
And wrongly.
And that's wrong, yeah, that's wrongly.
And nobody.
But it's because people believe the lie.
But that's my point.
It's because the way information is propagated and given to people, once again, via social media, all these other platforms.
And most of it is disinformation.
I agree.
So that's the root of the problem: giving people the wrong information, and then they respond into this wrong information by feeling a certain way about the people that that information is informing them about.
So then you have crazy people responding to misinformation.
And that's where we're at.
We're a bunch of crazy people, a bunch of shit up soda cans waiting to pop over some bad information.
Yeah.
I want to hear something, if I may, though.
And this is the only part.
You know, as it relates to the Charlotte Kirk situation, the only thing I think we're kind of getting the mixed message in that is, as I said again, it was a young white man that killed Charlie Kirk for his personal issues, whatever those ideologies that may have been the cause of fuel his violence.
It wasn't a black man who said, I don't like what he said.
Nevertheless, he has said that, you know, Katanja Brown Jackson, what's that young lady, Michelle Obama, all these people with DEI highs.
In other words, we respond differently because we have gotten so accustomed to it in terms of what's believed about us or perceived about us.
So we just know, hey, at tomorrow, it'll be another sound bite on some other shit.
You understand what I'm talking about?
So we're not going to react the same way.
So I think we got to acknowledge the fact that, hey, you know what?
There may need to be a change in the conversation overall as it relates to what's really the hell going on with white and black America.
That's why I say, I just need you to kind of just, and Steve, when I say this, it's not a challenge, but I got to ask you, you got to tell me these sources where you're getting this 12 times more likely a black man killing a white person.
I got to know that, not because it's contradictory, but because I like to have facts.
Get out the sauce.
I'll do it.
Yeah, when we do it, we always give a QR code where you can see all of them.
These are coming from either the FBI or something.
No, you say QR code and C, and that's blind.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
I told you.
I want to drink it out in Braille and ship that.
By the way, you want to hear a funny true hand of God.
I dated a girl in college whose dad was at, he was at an airport, and next to him was Stevie Wonder.
Was reading a Playboy in Braille.
I was like, I said that one-handed.
I don't know how you use a Playboy in Braille, but hey man, blind people, we love sex.
That's our only connection to the rest of society.
Hey, Charles had 11 children.
Go figure.
All right.
No, I know it's been a pleasure.
Hey, Cedric, thanks.
I gotta get going too.
Thank you, man.
Now that I know you're blind, I'm gonna recognize it.
Thank you for everything, man.
I hate you all.
Let's continue your discourse, man, because this is the only way we're gonna really get together.
No, great problem.
We gotta talk about it first.
So let's spread the dialogue.
Yeah, and I came in hot because, you know, my friends are getting killed.
Absolutely.
Absolutely, man.
But I appreciate it.
No, thank you, guys.
And hopefully, we can do what you do, man.
When your life is on the line all the time, I mean, come on, that's not something to scoff at.
This thing about the possibility of losing your children.
This might be a cure if we can do it in a way that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, keep it in a way that people don't get all up in arms about it.
That's why I'm doing it.
That's what I'm trying to do.
Yeah.
And I know, I know we're never going to agree on everything.
We probably might not agree on anything.
That's all right.
But at least had a conversation.
Yeah.
At least had a conversation.
Been a pleasure, man.
Yes, sir.
Yes, wrong about the others.
Watch, I'm going to walk out of here.
That white motherfucker.
Yeah, don't leave no mics behind.
Well, there you have it.
What do you make of what you just watched?
Assuming you watched both installments, do you think there's hope that we're on the path toward reconciliation?
Or are we completely clocked?
Comment below.
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