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Dei And The Lie
00:08:57
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| Where she said, I would never be at UT if not for affirmative action. | |
| I said, affirmative, and I believe it. | |
| Affirmative action is racist, by its definition, my opinion. | |
| It excludes on race. | |
| That is a form of racism. | |
| So anyway, she sat down, she said, I'm a black girl. | |
| She said, but if it wasn't for affirmative action, she said, I wouldn't be here at UT. | |
| I said, why do you say that? | |
| She said, well, because I wouldn't be allowed. | |
| I said, well, what were your SATs? | |
| Remember the numbers? | |
| They were very impressive. | |
| I said, what was your GPA? | |
| It was very impressive. | |
| It was over 4.0. | |
| I said, that's really sad to me that you don't know, and you'll never know that you deserve to be here because I can tell you, based on if you're telling me the truth, you of course would get into UT. | |
| And you didn't need a government program. | |
| And you could see in her face, her tears welled up because she had been told that she needed someone else to give it to her. | |
| And that removed her sense of pride in her accomplishments. | |
| So I said the exact same thing as Charlie did, saying, you can never know if you earned it a meritocracy because of DEI. | |
| And she changed her mind. | |
| And she said, you know what? | |
| I should be here and I don't need DEI. | |
| Or affirmative action. | |
| And that mutation in order to believe that. | |
| Yeah, in that particular instance. | |
| And certainly not from a white guy. | |
| In that particular instance, it might have been completely accurate. | |
| But there's also, if you want to acknowledge that there's a flip side to the coin, right? | |
| There's also a lot of people who had the qualifications who didn't get the access because, once again, their name appeared wrong on the resume. | |
| Your name was Katanji. | |
| Well, we know who that is. | |
| Let's go with Alice. | |
| She is an idiot and she got the job based on the side. | |
| That's why affirmative action had to be instituted in the first place. | |
| Now, did it operate correctly all the time? | |
| No. | |
| But that's what I'm saying. | |
| Just because it didn't operate correctly all the time, you're going to take the few instances where it didn't. | |
| And the majority of the people who are in the city of the world. | |
| What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk, I agree. | |
| What I'm saying is that Charlie Kirk was making a point. | |
| And the point that he was making, I'm trying to say is the same point that I was making where this black girl agreed with it, where he was saying, if you say that I'm only here because of DEI, then I am going to believe you. | |
| That's what he's saying. | |
| And that's a valid point. | |
| And it's not hateful. | |
| And in doing that, you have the responsibility in your words to not have to say the words, Morani, black woman. | |
| You could have just said, if I'm on, like you said, you just perfectly summed it up. | |
| If I'm on the phone with a customer service agent and she's a moron, perfect. | |
| Why does she have to be qualified as black? | |
| Because he was addressing DEI. | |
| That's the point. | |
| But do you understand this? | |
| Do you understand how that's going to affect anybody who hears it? | |
| No. | |
| My insensitive. | |
| Okay, then I'm insensitive. | |
| If someone is addressing DEI in a conversation and is asked about it, where race is relevant as per the policy, DEI, it exists based on race. | |
| You can't blame someone for acknowledging the race and criticizing the policy. | |
| But the policy was created because race was being changed to exclude. | |
| Fine. | |
| Then don't say that it's wrong for me to acknowledge the race. | |
| He was making the point about a race-based initiative. | |
| That's why he told the race. | |
| You see the choice in words he had to use? | |
| And once again, our responsibility in our choice of words is what creates a response in other people. | |
| I could say certain things to you, the way I say it can either give you a good vibe or a bad one. | |
| And you can't respond a certain way. | |
| Yeah, but who cares? | |
| That doesn't make someone a racist. | |
| It doesn't, but I'm saying, when people do things knowing that we're in a heightened inflammatory time and you do it on purpose and just stand behind, I'm whatever. | |
| It don't make me a racist, but I'm saying that y'all ain't shit. | |
| Whatever. | |
| But he never said that. | |
| Whatever. | |
| No, but that matters because believing those lies is why someone killed women in a certain context. | |
| And then I'm not expecting nobody to get upset by that. | |
| Let me, I do have to get, but let me just, because Charlie Kirk is a big thing. | |
| Let me just kind of, maybe if you could just listen to this, because this is important. | |
| And I've been through it, and you're just seeing the actual murder that got through. | |
| Right. | |
| I mean, I've had concrete milkshakes, someone tried to bash rubber that was a rock. | |
| I've had people try to firebomb my car, slash my tires. | |
| I've had terrorists show up from Yemen by way of Sweden to the local PD showed up. | |
| Like, actually, I'm on the ICE kill list. | |
| It's a real thing, Charlie was a little bit more. | |
| All the stuff Dr. King and Malcolm X was dealing with. | |
| Go ahead, finish. | |
| Sure, great. | |
| And I think it was wrong that he was taking probably the CIA involvement too. | |
| I think we probably all agree on that, the MLK, right? | |
| Yeah, it's wrong. | |
| We can say it's all wrong. | |
| But if you add it up, okay, where you believe the lie that he said something racist, let's just take that, okay? | |
| There's some hate put out there against Charlie Kirk that's not true. | |
| If someone believes the lie that he wants to erase trans people, that's what people are also told. | |
| If he wants to erase trans people, which is a lie, that person hates him too. | |
| If someone believes that he's a fascist or he's a Nazi, doesn't believe we should hold democratic elections, which is a lie, and people believe that, hey, that adds another piece of hatred and justification too. | |
| If someone believes that he's a misogynist, a sexist, he doesn't think that women should be allowed to vote or have the right to earn their place in the workplace. | |
| And every single one of them is dishonest, just like no one here knew that Donald Trump said, I condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis totally. | |
| I still don't know that he said it. | |
| I hear you saying he said it, but I'd have to go see it in order to know. | |
| Okay, so let's assume for a second that I'm not lying. | |
| And right after this, I make the references available always. | |
| And you see that. | |
| And let's assume that I'm not lying and Charlie Kirk wasn't racist. | |
| And let's assume that he didn't want to commit genocide against trans people. | |
| And let's assume for a second that I'm not lying and there's a 12 times murder rate from black toward white people as opposed to white towards. | |
| Let's assume that I'm not lying about any of this because I'm kind of good at it and I know these numbers and it's what I do. | |
| Wouldn't we acknowledge that, hey, why? | |
| Why do so many people believe these lies? | |
| I guarantee you this right here, this conversation, you will read in the media that this was racist. | |
| Because I sat down and discussed race issues. | |
| Because I sat down and argued with black people. | |
| I've been accused of being a Nazi because of sitting down and having conversations. | |
| Well, you should know that's offensive. | |
| That's not my responsibility. | |
| I'm actually having a conversation, and so did Charlie. | |
| And he was shot for it and vilified for it. | |
| And wrongly. | |
| And that's wrong, yeah, that's wrongly. | |
| And nobody. | |
| But it's because people believe the lie. | |
| But that's my point. | |
| It's because the way information is propagated and given to people, once again, via social media, all these other platforms. | |
| And most of it is disinformation. | |
| I agree. | |
| So that's the root of the problem: giving people the wrong information, and then they respond into this wrong information by feeling a certain way about the people that that information is informing them about. | |
| So then you have crazy people responding to misinformation. | |
| And that's where we're at. | |
| We're a bunch of crazy people, a bunch of shit up soda cans waiting to pop over some bad information. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I want to hear something, if I may, though. | |
| And this is the only part. | |
| You know, as it relates to the Charlotte Kirk situation, the only thing I think we're kind of getting the mixed message in that is, as I said again, it was a young white man that killed Charlie Kirk for his personal issues, whatever those ideologies that may have been the cause of fuel his violence. | |
| It wasn't a black man who said, I don't like what he said. | |
| Nevertheless, he has said that, you know, Katanja Brown Jackson, what's that young lady, Michelle Obama, all these people with DEI highs. | |
| In other words, we respond differently because we have gotten so accustomed to it in terms of what's believed about us or perceived about us. | |
| So we just know, hey, at tomorrow, it'll be another sound bite on some other shit. | |
| You understand what I'm talking about? | |
| So we're not going to react the same way. | |
| So I think we got to acknowledge the fact that, hey, you know what? | |
| There may need to be a change in the conversation overall as it relates to what's really the hell going on with white and black America. | |
| That's why I say, I just need you to kind of just, and Steve, when I say this, it's not a challenge, but I got to ask you, you got to tell me these sources where you're getting this 12 times more likely a black man killing a white person. | |
| I got to know that, not because it's contradictory, but because I like to have facts. | |
| Get out the sauce. | |
| I'll do it. | |
| Yeah, when we do it, we always give a QR code where you can see all of them. | |
| These are coming from either the FBI or something. | |
| No, you say QR code and C, and that's blind. | |
| I know, that's what I'm saying. | |
| I told you. | |
| I want to drink it out in Braille and ship that. | |
| By the way, you want to hear a funny true hand of God. | |
| I dated a girl in college whose dad was at, he was at an airport, and next to him was Stevie Wonder. | |
| Was reading a Playboy in Braille. | |
| I was like, I said that one-handed. | |
| I don't know how you use a Playboy in Braille, but hey man, blind people, we love sex. | |
| That's our only connection to the rest of society. | |
| Hey, Charles had 11 children. | |
| Go figure. | |
| All right. | |
| No, I know it's been a pleasure. | |
| Hey, Cedric, thanks. | |
| I gotta get going too. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Now that I know you're blind, I'm gonna recognize it. | |
| Thank you for everything, man. | |
| I hate you all. | |
| Let's continue your discourse, man, because this is the only way we're gonna really get together. | |
| No, great problem. | |
| We gotta talk about it first. | |
| So let's spread the dialogue. | |
| Yeah, and I came in hot because, you know, my friends are getting killed. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Absolutely, man. | |
| But I appreciate it. | |
| No, thank you, guys. | |
| And hopefully, we can do what you do, man. | |
| When your life is on the line all the time, I mean, come on, that's not something to scoff at. | |
| This thing about the possibility of losing your children. | |
| This might be a cure if we can do it in a way that, you know what I'm saying? | |
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Conversations That Matter
00:01:03
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| Like, keep it in a way that people don't get all up in arms about it. | |
| That's why I'm doing it. | |
| That's what I'm trying to do. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And I know, I know we're never going to agree on everything. | |
| We probably might not agree on anything. | |
| That's all right. | |
| But at least had a conversation. | |
| Yeah. | |
| At least had a conversation. | |
| Been a pleasure, man. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Yes, wrong about the others. | |
| Watch, I'm going to walk out of here. | |
| That white motherfucker. | |
| Yeah, don't leave no mics behind. | |
| Well, there you have it. | |
| What do you make of what you just watched? | |
| Assuming you watched both installments, do you think there's hope that we're on the path toward reconciliation? | |
| Or are we completely clocked? | |
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