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Oct. 11, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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Toxic Feminism: Crowder Breaks Down Ayesha Curry’s Insane Call Her Daddy Interview
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This week in feminism I had a job and then I didn't show up.
No, I don't.
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Subject for today.
Mm.
Glad to be with you.
Captain Morgan, how are you?
Fantastic.
How are you?
Good.
Josh?
Also good.
Saturday, October 18th.
I hear you're going to be at the Big Laugh Comedy Club in Fort Worth.
Yes, Big Laugh, Little Penis.
Oh, it's going to be good.
I wasn't talking about me.
Our friend and your lawyer, Bill Richmond, is going to be there.
Oh, he does make quite a few jokes about that.
He does.
Yeah.
I've seen it, though.
It's normal.
He does all right.
Yeah.
It curves, but.
Y'all are both gay.
Hey, what do you, what are you doing?
Can we admonish Gerald?
Because, in fact, Josh and I are not practicing homosexuals.
We are not practicing.
Yeah.
Anymore.
There you go.
Okay, fine.
Okay.
I'm in a better mood now.
Yeah.
Now I feel good.
Everybody is.
That's what.
Fine.
I'll do what I can.
I'm just, I'm still dealing with like, you know, after you have a stomach bug, like the dehydration, my lips and stuff are still wrung out, which, you know, I'm not going to say anything.
No jokes.
Well, you never do.
Yeah.
Sweet.
By the way.
There's a birthday card for Gerald.
I signed it.
I said, all jokes aside, please, Josh Fairstein.
We're going to do a segment on a scrapyard show on Friday that is Josh's notes versus Gerald's notes because we saw them on the same pad.
And then I know because my notes are kind of both, where it'll be like a note of, okay, a time code.
It'll be a note of, hey, I missed it, or I need this source.
And then it'll be a note of like, oh, idea for 7 plus 1.
Gerald's notes were like at 634, you know, clip too long, need to bring back marginal income tax, get right numbers.
And then Josh's, if Lily Phillips lived too long, she would become Flathead Phillips.
Something like that.
Something like that.
She's become Lily Flathead.
Lily Flathead.
Yeah, it was something like that.
And it was just such a dad joke.
And I was like, this technical jargon.
Screwdriver joke.
Yeah, I did a screwdriver or a sex joke.
It was just because I was like, whose notepad is this?
And after, because it was one page, Josh, one page Joe.
And so I didn't have a clear answer.
I'm like, I don't know if Gerald wrote this.
Also, hey, speaking of answers, it's 2025.
What do men need to do to be enough?
If you ask Steph Curry's wife, now, do people ever say, Steph, Stephan, how to do it?
People call him Steph, though.
Steph.
Her answer would be, there's nothing.
There's nothing you can do.
It's never enough.
And this is something, it's kind of been making the rounds, but all of us were very disturbed watching this.
And I know this will seem mean, oh, a bunch of white guys guilty as charged.
But if we don't fix the relationship dynamics in this country generationally, and you're even seeing more of a divide politically, Gen Z men breaking pretty hard for that demographic at that point in time, right?
They're more right-leaning than any other generation in the ages between 18, I think it's 18 to 25.
So boomers weren't as conservative as that during that period of the life, Gen X, millennials.
But you're still seeing Gen Z women breaking more left.
My left, you're right.
That divide is, and it's also indicative of the expectations.
And I've argued this, that the expectations from men as to what they really want are largely the same across those generations.
Now, they may not be able to say it because they've been browbeaten, but the truth is they want a woman who creates peace, who creates a safe haven that they come home to, who's a partner, a supporter, and they're happy to provide and protect.
That's what they want.
They don't care about your career.
They don't care about your degree.
They don't care about your membership to Mensa.
None of these things really matter.
They want someone who is going to be a nurturer, a mother.
And I know not all, not all, not all.
Some guys want horrors and we're not talking about them because we're talking about here, Steph Curry, someone who seems to be a supremely decent man, who's wildly successful, the best in his field, by all information we have available to us, including from his wife, seems to be loyal and good to his family.
And this woman is not only still miserable, but I will go this far.
If the Protestant Pinterest Christian moms out there say that a man looking at pictures of naked ladies, by the way, anti-porn, you can go back to videos in 2013, 2014, where I talked about it.
I'm not saying that it's a good thing.
But if the trend is to say that's a violation of your marital covenant, going out and publicly trashing the home that your husband provides absolutely is.
Or the lifestyle that he provides.
Yes.
Yeah.
And by the way, in many ways, impugning his character.
This is not something, this is not a teammate.
This is not someone who you can trust.
And I wouldn't blame Steph Curry if he came home after watching this specific podcast, but she's made the rounds, with divorce papers that moment because the writing is on the wall.
And I want to handle this delicately because I know that Steph Curry seems to be a stand-up guy and he's going to want to stand up for his wife.
What she's doing is indefensible.
And she's putting him in a position that is indefensible.
So Steph Curry's wife went on the Call Her Daddy podcast.
And we have a lot of clips here.
You can comment below if you've seen it, what your thoughts are, but we're going to go through it and kind of parse through everything, everything wrong and how it's actually sort of it's indicative of how a lot of people think.
This marriage is very likely doomed to fail because she's telling you that here is Aisha Curry, wife to multi-millionaire, loyal Christian family man, unhappy.
Aisha Curry, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Thank you for having me.
I'm just grateful.
I'm excited.
Hoping I don't get in trouble for the things that I say.
So I didn't want kids.
I didn't want to get married.
That's awful to say publicly.
Your kids are going to see this.
And I get that you can say behind closed doors like, we didn't plan on it, or I didn't know if I wanted to be a mom and it's a tremendous blessing.
Also, the very first statement, I hope that I don't get in trouble.
That's very different because I know that I've gone on Joe's and I've said, I'll probably catch some flack for this.
There's a big difference between acceptance for taking a stance and hoping that nobody blames you, trying to sort of create this immunity from accountability right off the bat.
Well, why do you hope you don't get in trouble?
Why would you get in trouble?
It's okay to get in trouble if you're saying something, you know, which actually represents your convictions right away.
This is a setup for victim poor me.
Again, yes, she is with a man who's worth hundreds of millions of dollars and can do whatever she wants, but never wanted kids.
We're off to a nice start.
I thought I was going to be career girl and that's it.
Was he the basketball guy in high school or no?
I apparently he was, but I didn't, I genuinely didn't pay attention to that because I grew up in such an arts-driven family that sports outside of like Doug Floody playing for the Buffalo Bills, like wasn't a, it just wasn't a thing.
And then not coming from that sports background and understanding how like rare the opportunity he had was, I was like, yeah, stay at school.
You know, I've said before in the past, like you don't have to even share the same interests with the person you're with.
You just have to care that they're interested in it.
I didn't know about sports.
Well, you're with a man who it's kind of his wife.
How could you possibly be a good wife, girlfriend, supporter?
If she was like, I don't know anything about that.
You should.
She ever watch a game?
Well, I think she does now.
To be fair, I think she does now.
What she's saying is when she was a young woman, I think they made her.
Before he was famous.
Did she ever watch a fucking game?
Tim's like, find the qualifier.
Here you go.
Also, also, anyway, we have clips together.
This is just a setup.
By the way, right now the video has three times the number of down votes as up votes.
And no doubt.
There's plenty more to dislike later.
Yes.
That might not be the point for me, but there's plenty more.
One of the recurring, just one point that she did bring up that I want to make sure, just to highlight it.
I didn't want kids.
I didn't want to get married.
I thought I was going to be a career woman and that's it.
That's going to resurface.
That formula right now is part of the problem.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, and let me guess.
And I don't, because I just kind of watched this incentive.
I said, let's just watch it and go.
Some point she talks about, and I don't know if people know like if it's for me or if they say it's because of my hot, if I only got that job because of my husband.
Yes.
Okay.
Listen, you want to, you want to do it your way, teenager, and just become a career woman?
Let's just, let's just set the stage here.
If you did it alone your way, how long before you could afford what you are currently wearing on your person?
Go!
A ring and a ring and a ring and a necklace and a bracelet and I'm guessing designer clothes and expensive makeup.
After college, an internship working for years and even then it would wipe out all of your savings.
So right away we see the lack of gratitude.
And there's a big difference between men and women in that way where she says, I thought I was going to be a career woman and that's it.
I don't, I've never heard a man say, I want to be a career man and that's it.
Yeah.
We just, we, we recognize our career as a necessity.
Exactly.
That's like a given.
That's not like a thing that we're like, we want to be a career man.
I'm going to focus on my, it's like, no, I need to have a career so I can have what I want, which is a family.
Well, here, let's go to this first clip.
You're about to see why there's three times of downvotes, and no doubt Mrs. Daddy will say it's due to sexism.
Aisha, herself, and Alex talk about the struggle of being a mom and wanting a career.
I spent my entire life like trying to work towards something, and then it kind of just disappeared, and I didn't think twice about it.
But after my daughter turned one, I remember there being a shift and being like, uh, I have goals for myself.
Like, this doesn't feel right.
I love being a mom, but I love doing other things too.
And I need to get my shit together and figure out what that looks like for myself.
Yeah, I'll tell you, you do need to get your shit together, and I'll tell you what it looks like.
Finding out that little girl's goals.
That's now your priority.
Just like your man is esteeming you first, you now put the children first.
It's not about you.
When the kids are up and they're out of the house, sure, you can go back.
We used to do this differently where women used to have children during their fertile years, and then they would go and work when the kids were out of the house.
It wasn't natural.
It was sort of a natural transition.
Now it's like, oh, I got to decide between this and this.
Hold on a second.
We've heard for so long, so long that being a mom is the hardest job in the world.
That's not true.
It's a very important job.
It's a very important job.
I wouldn't say it's the hardest job in the world.
It's difficult.
Not the hardest in the world.
I've seen, you know, Alaskan ice truckers.
Yeah.
It is difficult.
It is difficult.
I'm not going to take anything away from that.
I will take it away from women.
It's difficult.
It's not the hardest.
No.
But if it is, and we agree an important job, then treat it like a job.
Not something that is in diametric opposition to the job you really want.
And by the way, that's a luxury of a woman married to a man with hundreds of millions of dollars because most women don't get to work the job they really, really, really want.
And they would love to be able to home and love on that miracle of life that you created.
But let's continue like we're not all going to get irritated.
For myself now.
What was the hardest part of being a young mom?
I think my identity.
So what a privilege.
Because I have a entrepreneurial spirit, not being able to call the shots all the time for myself was freaking weird.
Women can experience this like.
Oh, so you think that at an internship or entry-level job, which is where you would be if not married to Steph Curry, you'd be calling the shots in the office place?
Bet you'd be getting coffees.
Continue.
I think her career driven, I think she wanted to be an actor.
I think it was.
She's an artist family.
I might be getting that wrong, but I believe, yeah, she's not writing the words and she's not directing it.
All right.
It's also very hard to make it.
I feel like maybe my intensity doesn't.
You'll see why.
Bomb guilt of like, if I have a career and I'm not home, like, did you experience that?
I still experience that.
I still experience that.
I'm almost like, I'm always in therapy talking about this.
Like, for me, being married and like with my husband, if you lose all of those things that were interesting about you, vagina.
Even for yourself, like even the things that made me feel confident and cool, then what, like, what are you doing?
You don't have to be a woman.
We're always.
So she met Steph Curry when she was a teenager.
Yes.
What things that made you supremely interesting to other adults, you know, these qualities that you had when you were 19, did you lose?
What qualities could have possibly existed?
I'm assuming you were pretty and you were hopefully nice.
Probably funny, charismatic in some way.
And that's why I chose you.
You can maintain those things.
Hopefully you've gone over this with your very expensive therapist.
Told like, or at least it feels like people just try to have us be one-dimensional and you can do more.
Not that it's easy.
No, but it's an option.
It's an option.
Like I say all the time.
Must be nice to have an option.
When men do it, they're like, oh my God, you're so multifaceted.
Wow.
So talent.
What a renaissance man.
And I'm like, why can't women do the same thing?
Like, what is giving you the ick so bad?
You could be an 11-time all-star.
I can't do that.
And do other things too.
Separate things.
Be good at them or at least try to.
Like, what is the, it is really frustrating.
And then I think, thankfully, I feel like there's.
Or sorry, is there only a little bit left to clip play it?
Yeah.
There's just been an uptick of people being like, you know what?
I don't care anymore.
I'm just going to do it.
Even if it pisses all of you off so much and it makes you uncomfortable to see a woman succeeding.
Deal with that on your own side because I'm going to keep pushing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, just replace all the people getting pissed off with children being sad.
Yes.
Because their mom's not home.
First off, yeah, I don't think you under the reason that someone like Steph Curry is not as multifaceted is because the intensity that is required to be one of the best at something, anything, one of the best ever at anything is something that this person couldn't comprehend because she needs therapy because she only has a couple hundred million dollars in the bank and can't do a part-time job.
She's also talking about how she says, you know, it's not fair that whenever men do something multifaceted, they're viewed as some kind of hero, but not for her.
And it's like, well, what is the thing that equates to what he does exceptionally that you do?
Right.
Is it mothering?
Right.
Because that's what it implies.
It implies she's implying that, well, I do other things too.
I'm not just an 11-time all-star mother.
Right.
For her to be the equivalent mother that Steph Curry is a basketball player, she would have to be up, country breakfast for the kids, not a smudge on their face, homeschooling, every activity booked to the letter, carting them to and fro, coming back, taking care of the housework, hot supper.
And so Steph Curry could come home to pipe and slippers, you know, the way that women used to.
And I know you'll say chauvinist sexist.
I'm just saying for her to be the equivalent of an excellent mother.
Or do you bet?
Do you bet that she has maids?
And do you bet that she has a Roomba?
Options.
She called it options.
Options.
You have options.
And like you said, what a privilege to have options.
How many options do you think Steph Curry has when he has the runs, but it's the playoffs?
How many options do you think he has?
Modium AD.
Yeah, exactly.
It's one.
Whose accolades are you going for?
You're playing for an audience of one.
It's your family.
Yeah.
Like you're performing for them.
When you have children, your children aren't going to go, you know, 30 years from now when they haven't seen you because you're out there being a boss, babe, and going to therapy to make sure that you don't feel guilty about the fact that you're abandoning them and you had a choice not to.
They're not going to go, man, I'm really glad mom went and was a career woman.
Especially as.
They say, man, I wish I got to spend more time with my mom and they prioritized me when they had the choice to do it.
Yeah.
And didn't.
Especially as somebody who says she comes from an artsy family.
Yes.
And says, oh, I can get, well, look at people like J.K. Rowling.
Yeah.
That lady got famous because she wrote amazing books for her kids.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, why don't you, like you said, audience of one, why don't you put together something for your kids and find something there?
And then no one's stopping you from following the arts.
Yeah.
Well, you have kids.
You're a multi-million.
You have more opportunity to do.
You can go to the best.
You can go get the best headshots.
You can go get the best acting classes.
You can do whatever you want.
Hire the maids.
Hire the butlers.
Yeah.
No, it's this needs.
Here's it's really this simple.
And yes, there is a biological component for the same reason that women go like, why can't I be older and get uh younger women?
Because men don't have a biological window.
That's a that's a fact.
And there's a reason that, you know, special forces, uh, for example, or or people in the very specialized military units are mostly men because men are very good at singular tasks that require incredible intensity and focus, right?
It's the fight or flight response.
You can just talk about it through the terms of biological evolution to deal with threats.
It's hunter out there versus gathering versus taking care of a village collectively.
We're designed differently.
And so, yeah, you are expected.
You are expected for that to be your primary focus because only you can do it.
And it needs to start off with what's best for these children.
If you start off with anything else, you are not being a good mother.
Yes, noodles.
I was just going to say, in looking at what Josh was referencing, yeah, she had done some acting gigs, but she was pursuing a culinary career.
So it's not that she didn't want to cook, it's that she wasn't satisfied cooking for her family.
What an opportunity you have, oh, dude.
I so many people, I watch, I'm obsessed with these cooking competition shows.
Yeah, like Master Chef, Next Level Chef.
Right.
I'm obsessed with them.
And so many people on there are at, they're called home cooks.
They're moms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So many of them are moms or their or their dads who have jobs.
And so they, this is their passion.
And they would kill.
They would kill to have a million dollars in the bank and the opportunity to stay home all day, be with their kids all day and just cook.
Yeah.
Mastering their craft at home, coming up, writing recipe books, getting your kids involved, teaching your kids how to cook.
Yeah.
You have two little hungry monsters who are growing and need all the food they can get.
You can test all your food on them.
You let them swirl the mixing spoon.
And they think you have the two best skill sets for being a mom: cooking and acting, acting like she's interested in whatever three-year-olds care about.
Oh, wow.
Literally.
Want to bake some cookies?
You're the best mom ever.
Enjoy it.
You're literally complaining about so many people's dream.
I know.
I love cooking, dude.
I wish I could open a food truck or a little restaurant, but I can't because I'm like, I can't take that risk.
Right.
Provide for my family.
It's going to be extremely hard business to work in.
And I can't just quit everything, go to culinary school.
Plus, your license is suspended.
My food handler's license did get suspended four times, but that was in three different states and not Texas.
All right, let's go up to the next step because at least here's one thing that we know.
We know that she understands.
Steph Curry is very shielded, unlike Aisha here, from scrutiny.
He doesn't have to deal with that.
So he doesn't know what it's like to deal with the scrutiny of the wife.
It's so hard also to be the woman in a situation where you're like, men just don't get as much scrutiny.
Like they can maybe tell him, like, your shots suck tonight.
But like the looks and all of that is just like not a natural conversation as much.
No.
Did you talk to Steph about it?
He's so gracious.
Like he tries to resonate with me, but he just can't.
I think because he's like known for shooting threes, people will say something all the time like, oh, he shoots threes on and off the court.
And I'm like, come on.
Well, first of all, that's funny, actually.
Three plus like a million.
Like you were like so stunning and gorgeous.
I don't need to say that to you, but I have to say it because it's also like the people that are writing it.
You look like Janice from the mouth.
But also, I feel like it's funny to see any athlete's wife, everyone just first goes for their looks and they compare it to crazy.
Shut up, silly woman.
That online conversation is so tired.
Like immediately just judging a wife of like a man that is well-known and famous.
It doesn't even have to be sports.
It can be entertainment, actors, whatever it be.
It's always at the looks and it's like, aren't we tired?
Yeah.
Just a little bit.
Well, hold on, a couple of things here.
The reason they go off the looks is because that's the only thing that you bring to the table.
No one knows anything else about you outside of the fact that you inserted yourself publicly with a bunch of selfies.
And that's, by the way, par for the course for a wants-to-be actress slash influencer.
But think about this for a second.
Like someone might say, your shot sucks, but they don't know what it's like to get looks.
You ever heard of a stare down in sports?
Like, do you know what a face-off is?
Not only does this guy have cocky ball players probably telling him, by the way, I just nailed your bitch.
Like I nailed your, like I nailed your three-pointer, rejected, whatever.
Guarantee this in the most horrible things you could possibly imagine on the court and giving him looks and giving him looks.
But this one's like, they just, but man, my husband, an all-star, doesn't know what it's like to get the scrutiny of bad looks.
Hey, hey, maybe just take the lens off of yourself for a second and maybe think, and this I genuinely mean as sympathetically as I can, that that guy probably gets a whole lot more than looks as beat up from the world when he comes back.
He is a walking fishbowl.
He is a magnet for criticism.
He can't make any mistake because his opponents and the media are waiting for it.
And when he comes home, probably needs someone who's understanding instead of someone who's willing to tell him that he doesn't know how hard it's been to have the maids in the house give you a little lip.
Not to mention, every time somebody says, oh, something silly is like, oh, you should throw you on the court and off the court.
You don't think that hurts his feelings?
Right.
I mean, he gets over it.
It's fine.
It hurts his feelings.
Basketball players probably get the most trash talked to them than any other sport.
By far.
Maybe besides hockey.
Because of the same reason, they're on the court and fans are on the court.
Like literally, they're sitting right next to them or right behind them.
They're in spitting distances.
Players have been spit on.
They've had things thrown at them.
They've had, it's all that the fights occur.
Ron R. Tess went up into the stands.
Well, he went in.
It was on him.
But what a great fight that was.
He hit the wrong guy, though.
But yeah, he's lost either one or two NBA Finals championships.
I think he's in scrutiny.
Nationally broadcast failure.
Right.
Where did he go wrong?
Where did Steph Curry fail?
Draymond Greene and all these other people.
Yeah, there's other players too.
But where did Steph miss this three-pointer that could have tied the game?
His job and your lifestyle depend on that.
Yeah, but page six said my eyes look puffy.
No, and I get her scrutiny, by the way.
I get her being upset about the scrutiny.
We're doing it now.
But I get it.
We're doing it because she put herself on a podcast.
I know.
That's the thing.
It's like these women.
Steph Curry accepted he's a professional athlete, right?
It sucks, but he accepts it.
She decided to go out on a podcast to build her brand in whatever capacity and will then claim victim status.
That's one thing that is unique to women of today.
And I mean this.
There is no group of people on earth ever, ever in the history of mankind who have had a better lifestyle than married women to even middle class, but wealthy men today who are able to stay home.
There's no group that has had a better lifestyle than this demographic of people, yet they complain the most.
And again, this is a betrayal.
To go out.
That's the point.
And is that, you know, yes, you get scrutiny, and it does suck.
sure i get it we all have our problems that sucks and i feel bad for you but you can't come out here and say that he doesn't understand yeah the scrutiny that i go through he doesn't he can't even compare he tries so hard complimenting him how sweet he is and how hard he tries to but he can't come he can't come close to the scrutiny i get and i'm sure he's super secure and doesn't care about this at all but i would yeah and i know that there's there's other women that watch this and they get empowered by that they go oh wow look the the wife of the superstar also
feels this way uh you know what i can feel this way yeah yeah it is harder for me than him you ever hear the term supporting role supporting cast you're a supporting actress and people don't like this this is a conversation that people like steph career people who manage companies or ceos again if the agreement is okay we're going to be a single income household because people say you have main character complex they'll say that to someone who's like someone was imagine someone that saying that to winston churchill you have main
character complex you think that it's incumbent upon you to fight hitler shut up yo bitch like seriously yes you are a supporting actress you cannot do what he does you can never come close other people in the league who've done nothing but what he does for their entire life throughout history even come close you can find great purpose in supporting him and supporting the family that protects him i know we don't like it because
like that seems subservient yes oh that servant servant's heart i believe this is a christian family by the way quick counterpoint in not understanding scrutiny here's steph reading his pre-draft scouting report
far below nba standard in regard to explosiveness and athleticism and 6'2 he's extremely small for the nba shoot but he's reading he's not even getting a lock to keep him from being much of a defender at the next level
struggles defensively getting around screens can overshoot and rush into shots from time to time needs to add some muscle to his upper body but appears as though he'll always be skinny oh my god god i just like to say i appreciate all the uh motivation and uh inspiration to do everything this paper said i couldn't do and
since then he's earned over a billion dollars so uh nobody but can you imagine if someone went to if aisha just had to read like and they said that she was nowhere near attractive enough to be a model and that she could lose a few pounds around the waist but she'll still never have the right figure to be desirable like if she had to read the same kind of criticism she'd have a nervous breakdown and i mean this and they'll go this seems like then if a man gets mad they go seems like sensitive masculinity no
look here's the thing we don't need to have we don't need to have this segment women act like this and die alone okay we're done here or if we want to improve it only women can start correcting the issues in their ranks yeah and men avoid someone like this yes please do that here's let's let's put them on equal playing field you know what steph curry gets to look forward to The minute he can't do it anymore, they move on like he never existed.
Yep.
So if we want that to be the same, the minute that you are no longer as attractive as you were or as good at being a wife as you were when they've, he moves on to somebody else that is.
That's what his career is.
That is what he's looking down the barrel of right now.
And here's the one thing that she can provide that she's not.
The one thing, Aisha Curry, that only you can provide on earth to that man is very, very important, what Jill just touched on.
There's one thing that only you can provide because no one else will.
That is unconditional love, which he's never experienced.
He's a commodity.
Men are used to the love for them being conditional, especially if you're a performer.
And that could mean in business, that could mean in sports, that could mean entertainment.
It could mean in construction.
They are loved as long as they are useful.
You could set the stage to ensure that he knows you will love him, the man, the man far beyond his utility as Curry, the brand, the player.
Because I guarantee you that's in the back of his mind.
I guarantee you it doesn't instill confidence to see you going out there publicly using the platform to trash him and say, geez, it's so hard you don't get all the things that you want, even though you actually do.
Yeah, he's a few missed shots away from being called washed up.
Yep.
Yep.
And I hope no one ever says that about her.
Yeah.
It's a terrible thing to hear and feel, but knowing you're good at something for a long time helps it a lot.
Yep.
The bronze all washed up.
What movie was that from?
I don't remember.
Maybe I made it up.
All right.
Here she is complaining about how hard it was for her going into business because she's like an entrepreneur.
How does it feel to be said person's wife and also work?
And I'm like, what?
I've cooked for my family since I was 11 years old.
The station that broadcasts the Warriors games at the time, they reached out and they were like, hey, we really like your videos.
Like, what if we gave you a 30-minute slot before every game locally and we did a cooking segment?
And I was like, yeah.
And so that was like my first TV cooking direct-to-camera.
And then from there, it grew to the book.
had this robust like food television career very quickly um that happened pretty organically what has been Yes.
No, no, it's true.
All random middling women get shows with the food network.
See the ingratitude?
See, it's like, well, then, and then, and then they go on to, and people just always wonder, like, if it's, is it only because of who your husband is?
Yes.
Don't even finish that phrase.
Yes, that's exactly why.
That's exactly why.
I was told earlier in the interview that when she married Steph, she lost everything that was interesting about her.
Yeah, and that she couldn't work.
I thought, yeah, that she couldn't chase her dream of being on TV for food.
Also, by the way, again, let's say you're not his wife and a local affiliate offers you like a 20-minute cooking segment in whatever Charleston.
How much do you think that pays?
Again, how much are you wearing on your person right now?
It's disconnected from reality, but it doesn't require wealth for that to be the case.
There are plenty of women like this out there married to foremen who are working their asses off and coming home and doing everything they can to people who are totally ungrateful, who are waiting for that man to walk in the door and tell them about their plight.
And I'm telling you, it doesn't work.
It can't work.
But let's finish the clip with Janice, the daddy.
Do you think the hardest situation that you've had to navigate as a female business owner?
The hardest, there's two.
The first Holocaust was hearing the nose as a woman in food.
And so getting people to see me and realize that I had talent outside of what people were assuming, I think, has been really difficult.
I knew people can't see past like the surface one sheet.
Yep.
Or you know what?
They don't want to.
Correct.
Which sucks.
It sucks so bad.
Yeah.
You know what sucks even more?
It sucks for the viewer if there's no hook for them to watch you.
So it's the fact that you're famous.
Hey, maybe you aren't talented.
Great.
You also got the job because of your husband.
Hey, thank you.
There you go.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say she is extremely talented.
She's a great chef.
She's got great personality, great charisma, great for TV.
Everyone gets told no.
Right.
You got to get.
Oh my God.
So many people get told no.
As a comedian?
That's true.
It does happen.
Dude, I need to.
I know you have to go to the bathroom and get it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, come right back.
And the other thing, too, she went on to say, it wasn't in that clip.
She says, hearing the no, and it said, and hearing the no, like you're too young and you're too young as a woman.
What does being a woman have to do with anything?
By the way, the only reason you were told yes is because you're the wife of a star player.
And she skipped the line.
That's the line.
Just own it.
You know, like, yes.
She never had to, she never got yelled at by Gordon Ramsey for making a souffle wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
You call this chips?
Whatever it is.
Souffle more like soup.
I don't know what biracial people cook.
I'm sure it's great.
She skipped right to a show on network television.
Yeah, exactly.
The hardest part is hearing the no.
How many women do you think were sitting there watching going?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've been a chef at a two-star kitchen for three years.
Right.
Yeah.
Hey, I don't know if you know this, but as both an actor and comedian, like I heard no and you're fired by the time I was 13.
But I would go into it.
The first couple of times as a little kid, like I'd go home and like cry like, oh, is it?
They were like, nope, nope, you're not right.
I mean, I auditioned for a role on the show.
Are you afraid of the dark?
And it only dawned on me during the audition that my character's name was like Andy Wang telling the tale of a misfortune fucking cookie.
I'm like, oh, that's why everyone was Chinese in the waiting room.
And I realized that I was just brought in as a token.
That didn't feel good.
But most of the industry, in any industry where there are very few spots available, is no.
I think what she meant was, you know how bad it feels to get told no?
And I'm like, I'm Steph Curry's wife.
You're going to tell me no.
Because there's something about being a nobody and getting told no where you accept it.
You realize it, you kind of get depressed about it.
There's comedians who know this more than anybody.
No.
All right.
Well, I wasn't ready.
No, I guess I wasn't funny enough tonight.
Right.
I didn't win the competition because that guy really killed.
Yeah.
Man, I really, I did have bad sets.
Yeah.
That's not what that was.
That was, I can't believe they told me no.
Yeah.
That sucks.
You expect no.
I'm somebody.
Yeah.
Well, you, you, okay.
I don't know if you're still role-playing, but you're somebody.
No, I'm not.
No, I'm role-playing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I can't believe you told Steph Curry's wife.
No, no.
Because you, Josh Fireson, you have a lot of good qualities.
I would, hey, look, Steph, I'll be your wife.
Okay.
But I will say.
My wife stits.
Like, yeah, exactly.
I don't know.
I walked in.
I'm like, yeah, of course I'm not going to get this role.
I thought it was weird.
I was telling the tale of the misfortune cookie.
My last name was Wang.
All right, good.
And here's the thing.
Let me be very clear.
Like, it's silly.
I played the role for a few seasons of The Brain on Arthur, right?
That was one of my first, like, that was the first role that got me my union card in Canada.
I auditioned for the role of Arthur because the kid had aged out.
And I went in and heard him the guy going, nope, you don't sound anything like him.
We're not going to waste your time.
Was pretty harsh about it.
And I was just devastated.
I was 12, I think.
And then they called back and said, you know what?
We heard kind of a timer in your voice.
Do you think you could work on an without knowing if I could, I said yes.
And I just watched it and I watched it and I would copy the phrases and I really tried to get night.
I can't do it now, but at that point in time, I could do a pitch-perfect impression of the kid before me.
And I could say big words.
The word for the audition was, I'm sorry, Arthur, but if I wanted to read trash, I would have read Ogleberg's treatise on binomial coefficients.
No one else could say it.
And then I could do an impression.
I said, wow, you sound just like him.
And I got through.
I had to fit into exactly what it is that they needed to get my foot in the door.
And I was nervous and I was cranky because I'd already been told no, and this was consequential.
They personally called me back.
And here's the thing: the victory in getting that, and it's a small victory, but for a kid, it was a big deal.
And I was proud of it because I actually had to work at something to do it, right?
It was a contingency plan.
She'll never know what that feels like.
She'll never appreciate it the way a 12-year-old me did.
Because she wants to play both sides.
It's like, people only give me credit for this and use the credit that she's given as the wife of a famous athlete.
And what she could do excellently, and you see this so rarely, it should be the rule.
It should be the norm.
Every time the wife of a person of note goes out in public on a podcast, it should be almost exclusively, if that's the only reason you're known, almost exclusively to support and elevate and champion the cause of the man who has given you that life and will lay down his for you.
Can you imagine if Steph goes out in an interview, podcast interview, and they're like, Yeah, well, your wife has this cooking show and she's working now and she's spending a lot of time out of the house and she's finding her own career and she's happy doing that.
And how does that make you feel?
And he's like, well, I mean, I love my wife and I support her, but I wish she would stay at it.
Do you know how that backlash he would get and how she would react?
He would lose sponsors.
Dude, yeah.
Or he says, I never really paid attention to it.
Yeah.
And I know we have more clips.
It doesn't feel like it.
She cooks or something.
I guess she's pretty good at it.
Yeah, I guess she's okay, you know.
But turns out she's one of the best ones.
I don't know.
I hear it's good, but she's not making any of it for me.
So I don't really know what it tastes like.
Something like that?
You know, oh my God.
He's like, Yeah, but just now that she's doing all this stuff, I just feel like I've lost everything that's interesting about me.
And let me just let me give you one step further.
What if a completely reasonable thing for him to say?
What if he said, yeah, you know, it's just, it's tough because I come home, you know, after like tonight, had a tough loss.
I made some mistakes.
And it's tough because I come home and sometimes she comes home after me.
And, you know, it'd be nice to have someone to talk to about it.
But, you know, she tries her best to resonate with me, but she just absolutely can't.
She just doesn't understand.
And, you know, which is probably true.
She really only cares about her own problems.
And, you know, if he just said exactly what she would be, oh my God, she doesn't exist for you.
Here's the truth.
I'm going to say this.
Steph Curry's wife, your purpose, meaning the reason for your existence at this point in time, after the soul bond, the covenant that you have made, and the children that you have created, the reason right now for your existence is to love unconditionally, support, submit to that man, and serve those children before the interests of your own.
That is why you exist.
That's why you were put on earth.
You may not like it, but that's the Christian worldview if you don't try and whitewash it into Protestant praying girlfriend daily devotionals.
I say, try to learn to like it.
That's what I would say.
Like, try to learn liking practice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
No one likes everything.
This is what your life is.
Yeah.
Try to make the best of it.
Turns out you ended up with a pretty good spot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm sure you can make the best of it.
And no one says that all of it is fun.
But here's the other thing.
It's a real blessing that you'll never know.
Do you think that Steph Curry, and I know you have teammates and those are important.
Do you think he loves the managers, the promoters, the sales reps, to the same degree that you love your children?
Because he has to deal with them every day.
The people he deals with every day don't give a shit about him and they don't give a shit about your family.
The people who you lament dealing with as your primary focus every day are the people you're supposed to love most.
And sure, they'll annoy you.
And that doesn't mean that you're going to like changing diapers.
It doesn't mean that you're going to like sitting by a recital where they do the same thing for the 15th time.
But you love those people.
He's surrounded every day by people who don't care about him.
So it's that much more important for you to do so.
You are failing your primary duty and the reason for your existence once you've chosen to sign up as a wife and mother.
Finally, she does talk about, oh, they play this game here, right?
A game of who is more likely.
That's fun.
That's fun.
Let's see.
I want to play a game then between you and staff of who is more likely to.
Okay.
Who is more likely to take a work call during date night?
Stefan.
Do you guys have boundaries of like, no, we're done with work food?
I do.
Where's the game?
You're like, do not disturb, mother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's that's because that's really feminine.
So, um, yeah, here's the thing.
Like, who's more likely to this again goes back to the narcissism and completely inconsiderate?
It's like, hey, hey, do you think you could put the hamburger helper on Simmer?
It's the president.
Oh, sorry.
I can't put this call off.
It's Under Armour.
They want to give us a multi-million dollar deal to put my name, your name, on shoes.
Do you mind if I take this call or should I tell him to fuck off?
Can we pause paranormal activity four?
Because ring ring call waiting.
Oh, it's someone who's angry that I met with the president.
She says this from a place from like somebody whose husband, I mean, technically probably could put off the call from Under Armor or a journalist and they have that privilege.
But somebody watching this, a woman watching this is going, yeah, what the hell?
My firefighter husband took a call during dinner.
Now he has to go save some babies, that bastard.
Right.
And some guy with third degree burns under rubble is like, I'm glad she had boundaries.
I'm being a little extreme, but you're not.
No, but that, I mean, that's, that's what I think of is the average person watching this whose husband might have to take a work call.
Maybe he's a sales guy and he needs this.
He needs to take this call.
Otherwise, he's not going to sell this house or this car or whatever, this advertising campaign.
And he's not going to make his quota for the month.
And then he might be on the chopping block and then out of work for four months.
And then, whoa, who's a bum now?
Because he can't get a job.
Yeah.
No, you're exactly right.
And here, I guarantee you that I don't want to speak for him, but if I was Steph Curry, in the back of my mind, I definitely would be fearing that I would outlast my utility to this woman.
This is not someone who seems quite capable of unconditional love.
And I'm not just saying it because it clips out of context.
I watched the whole thing.
The context makes it worse.
And she's chosen to go out and communicate primarily about these things.
That's her choice.
And look, men avoid this.
And women understand that men are going to avoid this more and more and more.
You need to do the exact opposite of this.
And we need to put aside the idea of that sexist, meaning what all men wanted, whether you agree with it, up until and including yesterday, they have to act like they don't, and what women expected from men.
If you were to take any woman, well, first off, you'd have to reduce it, right?
Go backwards on inflation.
And I don't know, $250 million would be like a, what would it be back then?
That'd be like eight bucks.
I don't know.
Go back to someone back then and say, by the way, the lady next door is married to the richest man in the neighborhood who is a Christian.
They got married young, high school sweetheart, has never cheated, speaks respectfully about everything that we know seems to be good.
No, no, marriage is perfect.
And she's really upset and unhappy.
Back then, because here's the thing.
It's not just, it's not patriarchy, although that is important that kept women in line.
It was also matriarchy.
There would be a mom who would go, what is, and probably slap you and go, what is wrong with you?
My family couldn't afford soap.
Do you know what an outhouse is?
We don't have that now because we have princesses.
And it's whatever my girl wants.
Mothers used to keep them in line, going, hey, you need a reality check.
Do you know who you're married to?
That man needs the support that only you can give him.
Do you know?
Do you know what Cecilia down the block has to deal with?
She just, half her family just got the black plague.
I don't know how far back we're going in time, but you understand.
There were much greater differences.
I think she's happy.
I want to say that.
I do think she's happy.
Oh, I don't.
I do.
I think she's happy.
And I think that she's just having this moment where she's complaining about.
And that, but that's the thing I have, the issue I have with it.
But she's done it on so many.
That's just the show.
Oh, she consistently.
Well, I haven't seen it all.
But what I was going to say is what she did is completely disrespectful, in my opinion, to your husband.
You went on not national television, but it's, I mean, it's a very popular podcast.
And you went out there and just kind of made it seem like your husband doesn't get it.
You're, you know, he's not, he's not, you're not, you're not fulfilled by being with your husband.
And I think that's disrespectful, one, embarrassing to him, two.
And I think it's a dangerous thing to say to young women who are watching the show who go, yeah, I agree.
Look, it's not that great.
It sucks.
She has, she has Steph Curry and she's unhappy.
Right.
And then what happens to those young women?
Right.
How does that influence their life?
They go, it's fine.
Well, you can see, you should see the defense of this going like, y'all, it's okay that just maybe she wants something different.
No, no, it's not okay.
It's not okay because they've created children.
It's not okay.
That's where we differ.
And women, this generation, decide which direction you want to go down.
You can agree with men and what I'm talking about here.
And we have slight disagreements, right?
But you can understand that's not okay.
It's never okay.
A woman should be judged if she decides to prioritize something above her family.
That includes her husband and children.
A man will.
Yep, she should be judged.
That's one road to go down.
Okay, understand that.
Or it's okay.
Let's not judge.
She can pick something else.
All right.
One will lead to a relationship if you want to have a family.
The other leads to cats.
But you have to make that choice.
You do have to make that choice.
You can't expect the family, but also, and we can renege if we're not happy.
It's okay to want something else.
It is not okay.
Marriage used to be a contract that said, by the way, nothing else taking priority over this is okay.
You understand?
This is a non-compete clause.
Effectively, that's what it was.
And then we said, oh, or you could just compete and cheat, whatever, and take half.
And then there's another question that was asked here on who was more likely to splurge.
I don't remember this one.
Who is more likely to splurge on a big purchase?
Me.
Oh, surprise.
That is not even a conversation.
Good for you.
You're going to be so proud of me.
Why the fuck is that good for you?
Like, here's the thing.
Why?
Why is that good for you?
What's good about that?
You're making a moral judgment.
Good for you.
Spending money that you could never earn if you didn't take advantage of the fact that you're the wife of a famous guy and then lament it.
What's good about that?
Let's just say it's not bad.
But what is good about that?
I think that's it.
Why is it celebrated?
Yeah.
What is that?
Good for you.
Yes, you should.
I'm not saying she shouldn't.
Splurge and spend money.
You have the money.
Your husband loves you.
Okay.
Who cares?
Yeah.
But good?
Also, why do you think it is?
This part, this next part, by the way, is my favorite part.
Oh, yeah, maybe we can go back a couple seconds.
Yeah, so let's play it that way.
You got fired up there.
Sorry.
But I don't understand.
Women out there in the sisterhood where you always, can you tell me, why is that good for you?
Who spends more money frivolously?
Me?
Amazing.
Why?
All right, play it.
Who is more likely to splurge on a big purchase?
Me.
That is not even a conversation.
Good for you.
He's going to be so proud of me for being honest, too.
Will he?
He's going to be watching this like, yes, babe.
Thank you for taking accountability.
What is like one of your splurges that you're like, I'm really actually proud of that one?
Actually, my ring.
So I reset my ring.
I've been staring at it.
So that's a good answer.
But I feel like, I'll have it forever.
That didn't sound forever.
Trailing off.
Well, I guess it's forever.
By the way, the big engagement ring is the stupidest thing that's ever.
It is proof positive that women have very few real friends.
If you like put size of engagement ring into a currency converter, like its metric will be the value of how many friends it pisses off.
That's the only value that it brings is that it might be bigger or more clear or expensive than your friend's ring.
It's of no actual intrinsic value.
It's literally just a flex to make other women feel less than.
And that's what she spent the most on?
Could she?
She spent that on her ring, not staff.
Because, well, just like the money, the bank account, the cars, the ring he gave her likely wasn't good enough.
I also, well, we'll get to that.
I also like that she goes, you'll be so proud of me.
And yeah, he's probably watching like, yes, babe, take accountability.
I get that they're talking about that one question.
They're being silly, but I highly doubt that he's watching any of this and going, I'm so proud of you for saying all those things to everyone on earth.
Right.
Yeah.
Thanks, babe.
I'm so proud of you for opening up and telling everyone about how unhappy you are.
And forever.
And you know what else?
When someone says he'll be proud that I'm being honest about something that's relatively inconsequential, it's like when someone, no matter what you ask them, they go, let me tell you the truth, or I'm not going to lie to you.
And they say it all the time.
You're like, well, whoa, what were you doing before?
You don't say he's going to be proud of me for telling the truth in this scenario where it doesn't matter.
That the subtext there, and I'm not, I don't want to do the psychoanalyzing, but the subtext there is, he would only be proud of you if the expectation would be somewhat that you wouldn't tell the truth.
Meaning, he would be proud of you for telling the truth because it might be something unique or an outlier.
You're not proud of someone for telling the truth on something inconsequential if they tell the truth all the time.
That's just par for the course.
Just like someone who tells you the truth doesn't always need to say, I'm not going to lie to you.
They just answer.
So this is just, I mean, okay, ring's not enough.
Hey, is there sentimental value?
Oh, yeah.
Well, here's the other thing, too.
I know you brought this up.
This was a good, good recall.
Here she is in 2019 pretending to take off her wedding ring in front of some shirtless dude on TV.
Guarantee you if he did that, that'd be grounds for divorce.
I mean, I get it.
I saw that guy and I. Yeah.
That guy who would give his left nut to be Steph Curry?
It's just never.
What do you think would happen if a guy was doing that because some hot shit came in and waved her tits?
I'll tell you exactly what it is.
If I had done that on national television, even as a joke doing stand-up comedy, if I did it in that comedy special, it would break my wife's heart.
Oh, of course it would.
I'm not even going to talk about her actions afterwards.
It would just straight up, regardless of what she does about it, it would break her heart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That I made that joke.
That's not even like playful flirting.
In other words, if she just went like, something like that.
Okay, sure, fine.
Taking off, like, you went to the nuclear option, taking off your wedding ring.
If I was Steph, I would have walked out there and been like, here, let me help you with that.
Yes, exactly.
I'll take it with me.
Exactly.
Turn it into more.
Get out of here.
And I'll tell you, you know.
And then, but that's, this stuff gets chalked up too.
They'll go, oh, well, Steph, you know what?
Steph Curry hasn't a problem with you.
You guys are complaining.
Steph Curry hasn't no problem.
He's very secure in his relationship and his masculine.
He's very secure.
Or he could be held hostage.
So then that gets used against everybody else?
Yeah.
He could be held hostage.
Oh, you're insecure.
Yeah.
Steph Curry doesn't, people like Steph Curry don't care.
So?
Or maybe he's honoring a commitment that she seems very likely to break because he's the man of integrity who she chose to marry, but it's not enough.
Maybe that's what it is.
Guarantee you.
And he would say the opposite because he wouldn't want to dishonor her.
Guarantee you, he's not happy.
People equate tolerate with don't care.
Those are two very different words.
Guarantee you.
Guarantee you what he read in his notes on his draft.
Guarantee you that bothered him.
Guarantee you her taking off her wedding ring bothers him.
Guarantee you her saying that, you know, I didn't really know that he's famous and don't really care bothers him.
Guarantee you he wants someone in his corner.
And people say, if people say, why do you hate women?
No, no, no, no.
No one here hates anybody.
But I will say I have a problem with most women in the public eye.
And that includes covert feminists on the right.
And I sent this to my woman.
And her response when she watched it was just evil.
She said, evil.
Men out there, make sure that the woman who you're considering to put a ring on, if you want to make sure she doesn't just take it off for the next Chippendales guy who walks by, make sure without prompting from you, she responds with, that's evil.
And I'll give you another example.
I know exactly what would happen.
Again, coming from my woman, because she was reading about Martha Stewart, the biography and started off kind of liking her.
Like she was really interested in being a homemaker and then hated her because she read like she's like, and her husband ended up cheating on her and she left him.
And I was like, what a peep.
But then I read, they went to Europe for five months.
And she was in a cathedral and she was inspired.
And she talks about making out with a guy, 6'4, for like five minutes.
I think I'm getting half of this, right?
but in a cathedral, I believe, during her honeymoon.
She cheated during her honeymoon and then left the guy for...
And by the way, if a woman...
It doesn't get worse than that.
No, I mean, you couldn't make it a day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, on their honeymoon.
And here's the other thing.
Are you willing to bet that a woman who would make out with a guy and also take the 10 right?
He was 6'4 and really hot and go, are you willing to bet that maybe that woman wasn't putting out for the guy, which might have something to do with the fact that he sought that physical affection elsewhere?
Doesn't justify it, but why are we just skimming past on her honeymoon with another guy?
She barely made it further than Hitler.
What was it?
He married Ava Brown that day and then killed himself.
What was it?
Something like that.
It was very soon.
He still had the wedding cans on his car.
Yeah.
The whole joke was that they, you know, he killed himself because he couldn't take his wife.
He switched just married to just can't spit this bitch.
Hey, take my wife.
Take my wife to the chambers, please.
Well, he didn't cheat, though.
Well, that's one way to look at it.
Sure.
Yeah, they just sent in the article and it reads, he didn't know I was married.
Well, our problem isn't with him.
No, I know.
That's my point.
That's my point.
She took advantage of that guy on top of it.
You know who did know they were married?
Her husband.
Yeah.
And you.
He was quite excited about it.
He was.
How do you cheat on your honeymoon?
Where's the you?
How far out?
How long are you set?
Sorry, this is blowing my mind.
Was she married for security?
She married him for security and she found a guy that was hot that she was sexually attracted to.
Yeah, but how'd she find her?
She didn't make a bond with him.
At the honeymoon, it's like that's that's like where you're like, we, we, it's the close.
That's, oh my God.
Okay, sorry.
Many people equate their honeymoon to that.
Was when we were the closest.
That was our most intimate moment.
That we couldn't be separated from each other.
We were attached at the hip.
Where did she find at least five minutes to find a guy to make out?
Who is it?
Where did you infidelity?
Was he taking a shit?
It's a good thing.
Research sent in.
They pointed out, they asked her, was it naughty or was it infidelity?
And she said it was neither naughty nor unfaithful.
It was just emotional of the moment.
That's how I looked at it.
Well, God, yeah, sometimes you get emotional and you just bang the cow guy.
Zero accountability.
But what a piece of shit that he cheated years, years later.
How much do you want to bet that he put up with so much crap?
Well, that's just the one she told the public about.
Take those paternity tests.
Yeah.
And the irony, too, is if Def Curry's wife, she wants something different.
Yeah, she could get it with his money.
Yeah.
A thousand times.
That's a great point.
A thousand times she did this.
If she had to, because if she, first of all, she's famous and successful and she has her own show and people work for her and people adore her and all this.
So she's got access to people who definitely are interested.
Yeah.
She did this on her honeymoon, couldn't wait a day to be making out with somebody else and then didn't even look at it as cheating.
How many other people did she not cheat with?
A thousand.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, come on.
I jerked off the light guy.
Rubbed the paint on it.
That was just an emotional.
He was, he gave me great lighting on the set, so I thought I'd give him a reward.
Stop being so insecure.
Rimming the key grip is a good thing.
Yeah.
That was the key grip that night.
Like, if we don't solve this, Western civilization is doomed because it relates to birth rates.
It relates to strong communities, having strong families.
Every statistic that you look at, you know, the older people get if they're married and have kids, the more conservative they are, the more they value their faith, their family, their freedom.
And I just see fewer and fewer young men signing up to get married when they look at the supposed Christian couple and a guy who has done everything right with the Curries.
And it's this simple.
Look, women, if you're like, why are men?
Why are men so angry?
She might have her reasons.
I'm just, I'm not, I don't need to listen to you right now.
I'm telling you, young men watch this and go, okay, I don't want that.
They watch it, go, you can do everything right, and this can still happen.
And then let's say she pulls on Martha Stewart, cheats on him, and leaves him.
What happens?
She gets half and he loses his kids.
I'm not signing up.
So if you want any marriages to take place in the future, you need to change.
And you also need to actually link arms and try and change divorce laws.
Divorce needs to be very difficult.
Needs to be very difficult.
It used to be because we tried to discourage it.
It needs to be very, very difficult in this country again.
So that people, if they won't honor their commitments willingly, are forced to.
Because I'm telling you, this young men are going to see this and go, I'm going to be, I am not getting tricked with that.
And I hear it.
And as a Christian male, it's hard to argue against it because it's everywhere.
And the justification with women go, but she wants something else.
Okay.
Then don't expect marriage and don't expect a family.
It's that simple.
It's just, and it really is.
It's heartbreaking.
And this guy, I guarantee you, and rightfully so, if he probably won't, but if Steph Curry were to watch this and say, hey, and I can't believe that Dick said that about my wife, and if I see him in the street, it's going to be on site.
You know what?
I would say, hey, he's doing his job.
Absolutely.
And I wouldn't blame him.
I also know that he can't say what it is that he's really struggling with.
Guarantee you, he has some problems with it.
And if not, just read the comments section.
All the other men out there.
Seriously, ask a man.
Ask a man if he's hesitant to get married and what are the biggest roadblocks to marriage and commitment.
Ask him.
Ask him, not about what you want.
Ask what it is that men expect.
And then ask yourself, what's your duty?
Both of you have duties.
Steph Curry's duty is to provide, to protect, to lay down his life for his family, to love his family.
He has to balance how he provides for his family and the time he spends with his family.
That is something that all men have to do.
Her duty is to make the house a home.
Her duty is to make the house a home and to support that man who has a singular gift that seems, I mean, you said he might be the best ever.
I don't follow basketball, but I know how good he is.
He's one of the best, if not the best three-point shooter of all time.
11 time all-star.
He's very good.
He's, yeah, top five shooters of all time.
Here's a good rule of thumb.
If you can't do what he does, support him so that he can do.
I said it in a way that you might understand.
We'll see you on Monday.
The more black and white in the gray issues coming next week.
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