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🔴 Brian Stelter's Delusional Response to the Charlotte Stabbing is Everything Wrong With Media 2025-09-09 18:07
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Let me make it really clear for you.
Young conservative man in his 20s.
He wants children, he wants to get married.
It's right up there at the top of the list.
That means he's planning for it.
That means he's looking for it.
Young conservative, self-professed conservative women, are not.
They're not.
So when young women say, I'm conservative, and you know, and I do believe in traditional gender roles, and this is why you can never have a pastor actually talk about what submission means.
It's not a thing because women will get offended.
Let me ask you this.
A young conservative woman, according to this polling, number one through six, financial independence, fulfilling career, owning a home, having disposable income.
Okay, top of the age range here is 28.
You're a 31-year-old conservative woman.
Unmarried, no children, but you have cool cars.
You have a great career.
And this is not a small sample size.
This is the overwhelming majority of young conservative women.
You're a 32-year-old, no kids, no family, likely no prospects.
This is the average, not all, not all, not all.
What in the hell is different about your life than the feminist next door?
You're in the exact same place.
And you both be the exact same place at 32.
Blaming the men who've always wanted those things.
Number one, having children.
So do we really think that the problem is with the feminist professors, or is the enemy within?
How in the hell does a woman say, I'm conservative?
I voted for Trump and I share conservative values.
Oh, really?
What do you value most?
Financial independence, finding fulfillment in a career, obviously buying a home.
I want to be spiritually grounded and I really want to have enough money to buy cool things.
I guess when I get around to it, having children.
If you believe that men, young men in this country, are the ones who want to just watch porn and bang a bunch of chicks and it's Andrew Tate, 2.0, 3.0, that's not reality.
It's the young women who are living that way because they want to, because they think it will make them happier.
Somehow when they get to their 30s, it becomes a fault of men.
And this shouldn't be a surprise, by the way.
And this is, hey, look, if you're offended, good.
You need to police your own women.
If you're a true conservative woman, you need to make sure that the women who are younger than you value this the way the young conservative men do in their 20s.
Or it's over.
It's over for America.
You understand we're below replacement rates, right, for birth?
And you understand that young men are checking out?
Let me give you a possibility as to why.
Because that man has been pursuing that monogamous married relationship to create a nuclear family and has been rebuffed for a decade.
And he didn't have a biological window.
So you see a lot of young men and they're demonized as being anti-women or they're demonized as being red pill, which I'm not.
I mean, we've had Andrew Wilson on the show.
He couldn't be more clear that he's not a red pill person.
He's an Orthodox Christian who's been married and they have a large family.
You're demonized if you're a conservative man and you point it out.
Well, let me ask you this.
What female ambassadors of conservatism would actually align with those values?
Would be representative of it?
Tommy Larin?
Lauren Southern?
Ann Coulter, Megan Kelly, Laura Ingram?
What's the difference?
What's the net result difference of the way they have lived their lives according to those values and a feminist?
I cannot discern it.
And it's a much greater sin to put on a team jersey when you're a turncoat.
And I think young men are tired of being blamed because young men are going, I've been here this whole time.
Ah, NBC, they came, they polled me, they asked me.
I thought it was like a census.
Turns out it was NBC.
I said, I want to have kids and I want to get married.
Why would you say?
It was number nine?
Whose fault is it?
I can't say it because I'm a man, right?
I am that guy.
A lot of guys here are that guy.
And we've run into those, as a matter of fact, it's the rule rather than the exception, as you see through the polls.
And what's also funny is that women valued, you know, emotional stability, right, more than having families.
Well, do you know what leads to more positive health outcomes and certainly mental health outcomes?
Getting married, having children.
I know, it's nuts, but here's the thing.
I get it.
I get it.
I get why young women feel it.
This is what you'll always hear.
Well, what's a young woman supposed to just be reliant upon a man?
You want to go back to the days where women were enslaved and we had a lower divorce rate and we had better literacy rates and test scores and stronger family units and clear gender.
You want to go back to that?
Well, let's go back to 1936, a Gallup poll.
Only 18% of United States adults approved of a married woman working if she had a husband who could support her.
That's not saying, bitch, get in the kitchen.
That's saying, hey, it's best for the kids if mama's home rather than being raised by the state.
We've done it the other way.
Dual-income household, state raises your kids.
How's that turned out?
And I know conservative women, Megan Kelly, will say, and I've done her show, I would consider her a friend-ish.
Well, don't conservatives want more Megan Kelly's out as an inspiration so more young women?
No.
No, we want the opposite of that.
Why?
Because it's best for the kids.
It's not about you.
It's about the children.
Here's another example.
Let's go to 1944, another poll.
It comes from Ork, Ork poll.
I prefer the Elven polls.
Stop.
84% of Americans agreed that post-World War II, factories should prioritize men for peacetime jobs by firing women.
Sexism!
It's only sexist if you're only thinking about yourself.
Here's a big difference.
Yeah, I want to go back to that.
I want to go back to both genders being at least gracious to the other one.
Do you think that in the 1930s, in the 1940s, it was assumed that that man wanted to go work down in the October sky coal mines?
No.
No, he didn't.
And so it was appreciated as a service, as servitude to the family for that man to go to that factory, especially post-Industrial Revolution, and do a job that he didn't want to do so that he could provide better opportunities for his children.
And when he came home, he was appreciated for doing it.
And that woman wasn't doing the hardest job in the world, but she was staying home as an act of servitude to raise the children right so they could have a nuclear family, a central family unit that was ready when dad came home from his act of servitude.
Both were grateful because both understood that it came with difficulties and both understood that it came with far greater reward for the woman than the man because motherhood is more fulfilling than a job.
Not to mention, a lot of these men were coming back from Europe and from the Pacific.
Yep.
You don't think they wanted to take a few months off?
Yeah.
No.
Some people go, so we're here.
And you get a bunch of excuses.
Well, what do you want us to do?
You want us to go back?
Yeah.
Yeah, better than this.
Sure, you have choice.
That's a good thing.
You have choice.
That doesn't mean that you're not making the wrong choices.
And this is, how many times have we run into this?
How many times you will talk to a 20-something-year-old woman and it doesn't matter.
You know that mindset changes once they're after 30, right?
How many of us know that?
Yeah.
And then comes the blame game.
Well, how do you blame men if they've always wanted it?
Yeah.
You know, you used to be the role model.
Speaking of don't you want more Megan Kelly's out there?
I think the, look, you may not like this, that the appropriate answer is no.
I don't want more Megan Kelly's out there.
You know who the role model used to be?
Mom.
Mom used to be the role model.
She would teach her daughters the value and the joy and the wonder of being able to create life and care for it and help make sure that society moved forward and had people.
That is one of the most monumental gifts ever given to women.
And moms stopped doing that.
And when moms stopped doing that, now they're like, well, who do we look up to?
Used to be in the house.
You used to not have to turn anything on.
She's right there every single time.
Now, what do you want to look at?
I'm sorry, nothing against Megan Kelly, but what does she embody that makes other women, if every woman does what Megan Kelly does, are we better off as a society?
No.
I don't think so.
Those are the women talking to women now that they're out there, but I want them to say, hey, hey, hey, we've got it wrong.
Is that what Megan is saying?
I don't think it is what she's saying.
There's some other people that are saying that.
Well, we got it wrong.
Listen, do a U-turn, guys.
Otherwise, this goes very poorly for us.
Look at these examples.
That's what I want to hear from people.
Does America need more female talk show hosts telling men how they should be?
No.
Does it need more moms?
You know what?
Before we get to that, does it need more wives?
Because your best indicator as to how good of a mom she'll be is how good of a wife she'll be.
Yeah.
Men are constantly taught how to treat women, and they should be taught how to treat women.
Let me ask you this.
How often are women taught how to treat a man?
Only in negative ways.
Yeah, but mom used to do that too.
Mom used to do that too.
And this entire problem gets solved if you start thinking about this a little bit differently.
Women, and listen, you can go and do whatever you want to do, but you have to understand the expectations change when you do this.
Women used to stay home until they got married.
They would stay under the protection of their father until they got married.
So guess what that rules out?
You don't have to chase a career.
You don't have to chase financial freedom.
You can go and train and become a nurse, a teacher, or do some other stuff, but you don't have to chase this stupid thing that you make fun of men for chasing and spending too much time at this career where you go sit in a cubicle and hate your job and hate your boss.
Shouldn't you have learned from us?
You don't have to chase all that.
And then men get married.
Not this place.
We have no cubicles in this office.
What?
You don't have to do that.
That's what we used to do.
Now, you may say, I don't want to do that.
Okay, that's fine, but you have to understand that now when the woman goes out and grabs an apartment in downtown and goes on the party scene and does all of the things that they're going to do, then she's going to look up and see, oh, crap, 30.
We've changed so much, and there's so much that needs to be reverted back as the right option for people to choose.
I'm not forcing anybody to do anything, but I am saying if you want those things in life, if you do want children or a family ever, stop thinking you can get to that after you're 30.
It's just not working.
And you know what this poll also shows me?
So how many men here, show of hands, how many men here, if you, let's say, were having some lady trouble, a little fight with the lady, or were trying to, you know, woo a woman and you were unsuccessful.
How many men here at some point talked with or confided in a female friend or role model seeking advice from a feminine perspective?
How many men here have done that at some point?
Seeking advice from a female perspective?
Yeah, on dealing with women.
On dealing with women, dating.
Well, then dating.
Yeah, then raise your hand.
Yeah, your hand works.
Not as a married man.
No, not as a married man.
Women don't do that.
Women don't do that.
And women give other women the worst advice humanly possible.
I've had this discussion many times where you go, well, this is actually what men want.
And they go, what?
So you're saying, well, you're saying some, you're saying the guy then.
You're saying that a guy wouldn't care about, and they insert all their accolades here.
And they would pick some woman who works at McDonald's?
Yes.
I don't believe that.
Okay.
See, all of human history.
So you're saying that women don't care, that I have, I have a master's in sociology?
That's right.
Men don't care.
You're saying, well, hold on a second.
You're saying that men, but my top nine things on my list.
I'm a conservative woman, but my top nine things were going to school and I'm a pediatrician.
Are you saying, are you saying that if a man has a choice between me, a pediatrician, and a woman who works at McDonald's, but if she's, what, he'll pick her just because she's nice and wants to, wants to be a wife?
Yes.
Well, because she wants to do things for him and love him and treat him nice and say nice things to him.
Yeah, and then you know what they say?
That must, then he's not much of a man.
He's just intimidated by me.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, my 30s are gone.
I am absolutely intimidated by a woman who won't show me love.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I'll admit to that.
Yeah, you're very intimidating.
I want to go home and feel secure.
I don't want to go home and feel like, oh, God.
Yeah.
Or arguing just for the sake of it.
Yeah.
Like, look, how let me, okay, let me distill it even further.
Should a kid be raised by a parent or should the kid be raised, you're conservative women.
Should the kid be raised by the state?
What's public school?
Okay, let's go private school.
Should the child be raised by a parent or by a stranger?
Children should be number one.
The only way you fix this problem is if conservative women start acting conservative because I don't see it.
And no young men do.
The problem that we have isn't the overt feminism that's out there.
The problem that we have is the feminism that lurks beneath the surface.
Because you have people saying, I'm not a feminist, but, and then they do everything the feminist way because it's uncomfortable.
Yeah, I get, you know what?
Here's the truth is you are going to have to roll the clock back a little bit.
I know that's antithetical to the idea of progress.
I get it.
Yeah, we're going to have to roll it back a little bit more to the 50s.
A little bit more of those PSAs of make sure your husband's a pipe and slipper man.
You know what that meant, by the way?
Pipe and slippery.
That's an old expression.
Pipe and slipper man.
You ever watch White Christmas where he goes, oh, you'll be a real pipe and slipper man.
That means a man who works all day comes home and his wife puts him in a recliner and gives him his pipe and slippers so he can watch the kids play by the fireplace and relax a little bit, not come home and I've been doing the most hard job of the day here.
So he works a job and now he has a second full-time job?
Used to be a term, pipe and slippers, man, because it was recognized that that's an act of servitude.
Going to the mines, going to the factory, selling insurance, whatever it is.
And he would much rather be at home.
And yes, it's a hard task and it's an important one.
But it's better.
It's more fulfilling.
And you don't have to yearn to be home because you're there.
So yeah, we have to roll it back a little bit because we've been progressing.
Okay, but we've been progressing to broken relationships, broken marriages, and as you just saw on CNN from our schooling system, broken children.
So let me ask you this.
People say, you want to regress?
You ever hear of a strategic retreat?
What's wrong with backtracking if you've gone the wrong direction?
Yeah, I'm going to be really straightforward with it.
I think we should backtrack to the 50s on relationship dynamics.
And so do you, conservative women?
You say you do.
You just don't do it.
And this is all by design from, of course, modern feminists.
And they've been very, very effective at permeating all ranks.
Women, you need to police your own because if you keep going this way, well, those old regressive 50s PSAs, as horrifying as they seem, they could be a lot worse.
The modern feminist can learn to cook if she deems it fun for her at that time.
Or set a table like this, or simply eat out of a carton.
It entirely depends on what feels good in the moment.
Remember, plucked flowers are a sign of weakness, so gather them in one spot for disposal.
A clean house is a sign of insecurity.
Remember, if he asks you to do it, don't.
Dress however you want.
If it speaks to your inner truth, it's correct.
The skankier, the better.
Babies are always an option, but can make you a slave to patriarchy.
Abort accordingly.
Infants are expensive and last for years.
You have options.
If you're not enjoying yourself or you ever want out, just remember this acronym: FTK.
F them kids.
When it comes to courting, the modern feminist is in charge.
Be sure to list for him your demands while violating his every boundary.
Because remember, all men are rapists.
When you want some you time, take it.
If your man wants some him time, take his.
Always remember your ABSs.
Always be selfish.
Do that.
And you too can embrace the modern feminist in you.
Or modern conservative woman.
They're interchangeable.
At the end there, it looked like he was like, I'm trying to read the paper.
Yeah.
Leave me alone.
What if I want it?
Okay, all right.
I guess that's what you want.
What you reading?
Nothing.
Just something about a war in Africa.
Oh, yeah, what happened?
I haven't finished it yet.
Well, tell me.
Oh, God.
Wouldn't it be better if you told me?
Wouldn't it be better if we talk about that thing that you haven't finished reading yet?
Yeah, let me tell you about this, and then you can tell me why my opinion's wrong.
I guess you would have rather had that girl from McDonald's.
Bro, get asked.
We could open this to chat or we could do the Epstein Doodle thing.
Okay, let me just tell you the Epstein Doodle.
That's been really real.
They're talking about it right now.
They're talking about it on CNN.
Well, they were.
Now they're talking about buying something.
No, they're all okay.
Let's watch it.
Let's watch this photo negative of Hallie Berry from the Flintstones.
Democrats aren't also going to focus on terms.
They are going to do cost of living issues and focus on pocketbook sort of issues.
But what it does do is it continues to be in the atmosphere about an elevator being like, you guys smell that in the air here?
My God.
Why is it still farts in here?
It's still there.
Yeah.
I was like, did you get it?
Oh, did you guys smell that nastiness?
What?
Who in here is an animal?
You?
Patriarchy much?
Oh, geez.
So the Epstein Doodle.
The House Oversight Committee, they released this yesterday.
They said they'd received hundreds of Epstein documents from the Epstein estate.
So they're trying to say there's no way that this could be either forged or it could have been sent by somebody else because the auto pen is not a thing.
This doodle clearly came from Donald Trump to Epstein.
Therefore, he's complicit in rape.
Clip!
Writing this note to Epstein here that is just extremely familiar, right?
It's one thing, sure.
It is true that famous people sometimes sign birthday cards for people or sign generic notes for people.
That is not what we're seeing here.
I mean, we have this drawing of what appears to be a young woman, I would say, and Donald Trump talking about how they share certain things in common, about how they have all these wonderful secrets together.
I mean, it's a letter from two guys that get in trouble together and have a bromance.
Is it?
A broman.
Is it?
Is it romance?
Why don't you ask your Puka Shell Knuckles?
Now, is that what men do?
Is that what I mean?
Am I doing men wrong?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're doing men wrong.
Is this a poor man's thing?
Do I not know I'm supposed to be sending letters to my boys?
Also, if you're involved in underage rape, men leave paper trails.
Yes.
Yes, and make sure you draw tiny boobs.
Yes.
So here's why I don't want to give it much credence.
First off, you're talking about intelligence.
It's from the Epstein estate.
Sure.
Whatever.
Okay, fine.
And you don't think that that's been around for years, and we're getting it now.
And you don't think that intelligence agencies that have been involved and now say there's no client list and we have no idea what happened and he totally killed himself?
You don't think that there could be something compromised there?
Okay, so it doesn't matter where it came from.
The timing is very convenient.
And it is a way of writing, if you read the words written by Donald Trump that in no way align with how we have seen him write very, very publicly.
He's the first president where you can all read his writings in real time.
And it's a drawing that in no way resembles any other doodles that we've seen from Donald Trump, which are few and far between.
There you go.
There's the Epstein Doodle.
Let's compare some examples that we have.
The signature, by the way.
There's the Empire State Building.
So Epstein Doodle, Empire State Building from Donald Trump.
Money Tree from Donald Trump.
There you go.
Yeah.
None of them.
It's like, okay, all right, fine.
And then the way that Donald Rhodes says, we have, look, I'll read it this way.
We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
And Jeffrey goes, yes, we do, come to think of it.
Enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
And Jeffrey Epstein goes, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
And Donald allegedly wrote, a pal is a wonderful thing.
Happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret.
Compare that with his latest truth.
He too late has done a terrible job.
He adapted to Target.
It's too low.
It's too rigid.
They followed data that years delayed.
Wait a minute.
I think I read that entirely wrong the first time.
I read it as though Donald Trump was saying all of those lines, but apparently not.
Yeah, I know it has names in between and I might sound like a moron, but I took five seconds on this.
He wrote a card to Jeffrey Epstein bragging about how cool he was?
Yeah.
Wait, does this birthday?
I'm confused by this, I think.
So he wrote a card with his own dialogue and with Jeffrey Epstein's own dialogue?
This is my thing.
This is my thing, yes.
He wrote a script on a...
It also says voiceover up top.
What the hell is this?
Yeah.
I don't understand.
I don't think so.
And the signature is very dark and bold, like it's fresh and new and printed.
I mean, it's also terrible.
It's noisy.
It looks like it was stamped on there or, yeah, Photoshopped on something.
I'm sorry.
All those things.
Yes, correct.
All those things.
But I can't, in my wildest dreams, picture Donald Trump writing, happy birthday and may every day be yet another wonderful secret.
A pal is a wonderful thing.
Enigmas never age.
Yeah, certainly not about the drawing that this is encompassed by.
Yeah, I love that.
No, but listen, read the next slide.
So enigmas never age.
No, no, no, go away.
As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you from Jeffrey Epstein.
So essentially, I'm sending you a birthday card saying, hey, have you noticed this about how wonderful this thing is?
And you're like, yes, in fact, the last time I saw you, that's exactly what I thought of.
Yeah.
Sounds like Adam Schiff wrote it.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, if for some reason this is real, I'm going to feel really bad about this.
But this is weird.
This is very gay.
Yeah.
I'm not going to put anything past anybody, but this is, it doesn't make any sense.
I think I don't get it.
Is there like a...
He sent a birthday card, then Jeffrey sent the birthday card back to him, and then Trump...
Maybe the birthday war, including a conversation.
I don't know.
The point is, you can't trust any of this.
What noodles?
Do you have something in this?
It's the strangest inside joke I've ever witnessed.
Yeah, and it says voice.
The fact it says voiceover tells me that this is something that was written that was supposed to be recorded.
I know.
Probably never was if we don't have a recording of it.
Roses are red, and violets are blue.
I like children, and so do you.
Wait, did I say that?
Sincerely.
That's in the draft pile.
It's supposed to be the wildest.
That one's no good.
He would sooner be like, roses are red, violets are blue.
You're getting fitted for an orange jumpsuit.
I called the cops, you shitty bitch.
I told the FBI all about you.
Oh, my gosh.
They're just going to keep trotting this out.
It's just like, okay, fine.
Whatever.
Stupid.
Sure.
Even if it is.
Yeah, everything is typed except for his signature.
Yeah.
I mean, that's probably pretty much.
Well, the big thing is that it's not a significant thing.
That part of it makes sense to me.
The big thing is the left are like, well, this isn't coming from some Biden thing.
It's coming from the Epstein estate.
Okay, and they just found it now?
Yeah.
I mean, they raided it years ago.
Like, maybe.
So we actually had Charlemagne, the God, not a God, but the God.
One of many.
Commented on.
He actually commented on it.
It looks like he thinks it's a plant by Republicans.
So let's see the video.
I don't believe that painting, though, I'm going to be honest.
You see that drawing?
You don't believe it?
You don't think it's a real letter?
I think that I think that somebody I think somebody down with Trump planted that make it seem so so crazy.
Make it seems like this ain't.
I think that because once you've debunked that and proved that it's fake, then maybe people will start looking at everything else like it's fake.
It just seems too damn silly.
Well, that's an interesting theory.
He's got a nefarious angle to it, but I mean, he's on the like, this is stupid, man.
But even with that, you know, that different angle, it still seems.
I mean, that's possible.
I could see the Benton who punches people in the face.
You're like, all right, this shit for a Reich Tarshan.
I'm going to try to trick two weeks from now.
He's like, this guy's great.
He punches faces.
I swear, I bet he did.
Did we ever confirm whether he decked Elon?
Well, who did he just punch yesterday?
Well, no, he threatened a guy.
No, he punched another guy in the face.
He didn't punch him.
He threatened to punch him in the face.
Well, when I was watching this, they said that he did punch.
No, no, no.
He's thinking like he punched him.
I'm pretty sure.
I would love to see his form.
I don't think it's good.
I don't care.
We've been all wrong about him.
We're like, he's the most boring guy in this cabinet.
And he has a short fuse.
He must be Irish.
Yeah.
Who?
Native American.
In contrast to that man who was, did you see that story?
93-year-old man killed his wife and turned himself in?
My first reaction was got to hand it to him.
He had a long fuse.
He's 93.
He's 93.
He finally got around to it.
Jeez.
One of these days.
Today?
He's like, one of these days, Alice, I'll miter you.
He's like, I'm running out of days.
She's on her last days, and I want to be the one to end this.
Well, they were going to get divorced, and she was 80, and he just killed her.
Oh, damn.
I know, but it's just like, I mean, that guy, I get, of course, you shouldn't kill 80-year-old ladies, even if you're a 93-year-old man.
Guarantee that guy put up with some crap.
Yeah.
93.
I just wonder.
I just wonder what the moment was.
He was like, that's it.
You know what?
This is funny, but realistically, I think that she put up with the crap.
I don't think so.
Who files for divorce at 80?
I guess they put up.
Like, what are you trying to go out with?
You didn't want to.
She must have been tortured.
I don't know.
But this guy sucks.
I can't take it anymore.
I'm 80 years old.
It's been long enough.
No, she's younger.
She's 80.
She has ample, she has more opportunity and suitors.
He's 93.
What suitors?
She's like, you haven't been able to get it up since you were 86.
That's a medical condition.
I got it up for the nurse.
Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?
With your jungle fever.
She met a new guy at the nursing home.
Giving that bed pen to those Mexicans.
You are always a monster.
I'm sorry with the lady on this one.
I don't know the story, but I'm siding with her.
No.
She wants to go out and finally have those children.
My window is closing, Harold.
I'm only 80 years old.
I got to do something.
And Gerald, you go next?
No, I'm good.
All right.
Okay, let's take some chance.
I don't know where I read it.
You know, I read so much news.
No, I just read it.
I read that he told him basically, he told him to his face.
Oh, I was still talking about the 93-year-old.
Telling about Benton.
Sorry, sorry.
Sorry.
I thought you were going back to Benton.
No.
Yeah, he told him to his face.
Wait, did he punch him or no?
Because you want to admonish Gerald if you didn't.
I think the story was that he punched another guy in the face.
That he punched Elon and he punched another guy in the face yesterday.
That's what I had heard.
And Gerald says that he threatened to.
I threatened the guy a day or two ago, whichever one it was.
He was like, F you for talking to Trump about me.
Yeah, talking negatively about the effing face.
Which people confirmed the guy was gossiping about him, Donald Trump, and he said, let's go outside.
Yeah, what I had heard was that the guy did go outside thinking it was like, wow, can we just talk?
And he was just like, so who's doing the punching here?
Awesome.
Is it Besant or Benton?
Oh, I'm thinking.
I'm dealing with Enton.
Yeah, Besson.
He's the epic guy.
Oh, the boring guy.
Yeah, the boring guy.
The economic.
What's his role?
Okay.
I forgot what position he's in.
Scott Besant, he's one of the guys.
He's the puncher.
Yeah.
Director.
He's secretary of punching.
Yes.
He's Treasury.
Treasury.
Treasury.
Oh, okay.
Treasury.
That's right.
Yeah, that's perfect.
That's good for a boring guy.
You don't want a fun guy at the Treasury.
I love that.
I mean, listen, honestly, it's like, he's like, I don't play these games.
What?
Yeah.
Who are you to talk to Trump about me?
I'll punch you in your face.
Yeah.
I'll stuff you in my cabinet.
There's no evidence that he did because Noodles has a thing on his face.
And he's like, I can't find anything.
So up there.
All right, well, let's grab some chat.
Mission Control Consenter.
I don't want you spinning your wheels there, Noodles, but Gerald wrong.
Monest.
We don't have evidence yet.
Oh, my God.
I'll take it if there's evidence.
All right.
First chat from Driller40.
Question for the crew.
Does the problem with the conservative women come from the fall when God said women will be set against the men?
Also, aren't men to blame as well for being weak and not leaders?
Well, sure.
Look, here's the thing: there are instances where men are weak and not leaders.
Yes, of course.
But there are plenty of instances where the men are not weak and they are leaders, and it doesn't matter because the court system says you can take all this stuff anyway.
So it's sort of irrelevant to the female behavior in these relationship dynamics.
And as we're discussing priorities, who do you think would be most likely to want to lead a family?
The men who answered they want children and to be married or the women who said they didn't.
Yeah.
No, I think that's fair too.
And it is 100% true that men need to be strong, need to be good leaders, need to be good husbands.
All of that's true.
But not too strong.
We hear that a lot of people.
They don't lead too much.
Right.
So I was about to say, we hear that a lot already.
What we don't hear is the other side of it.
That's why it's kind of coming out.
So yes, of course, you can always say, yeah, we've got to do our side of this job.
And that's 100% true.
And there's no getting away from that.
But we hear that a lot already.
So fine, if you want to say it again for the 50,000th time to guys, great.
That doesn't seem to be the driver of the problem right now, though.
Right.
So.
Yeah.
Big driver was when women wanted to become wives and mothers and have a family, they acted feminine to attract a suitor.
And if men wanted to have a wife and children and a family, they had to build up their value to prove their leadership and providing potential.
That's what kept men from being basement-dwelling, video game-addicted, pot-smoking, Cheeto scarfers.
And it kept women from being blue-haired, treaking feminists, right?
Because that kind of woman doesn't attract a man, that kind of man doesn't attract a woman.
But instead, they don't even want the same things.
It's a good balance.
Yeah.
It was a good balance.
I mean, Cheetos hates it because fewer Cheetos being consumed, but still.
Sure.
And every now and then a woman caught a fat lip.
But it's for the greater good.
What's interesting about that poll, by the way, is I would argue that I'd venture to say that the women on both sides were lying at least a bit.
I think that they say what they think they want.
Because I think that you put the liberal women and you put the conservative women so-called in with the men who voted for Trump and the men who voted for Harris.
You put one woman with each of those men.
They're going to choose the Trump man every time.
Yeah, no, that's without knowing it.
That's what they'll want.
So without knowing what's going on aligning and you get an hour with each of them and you got to go, which one would you be better suited to spend eternity with?
And they're going to pick that guy who voted for Trump every single time and not know it.
I think many of them will.
They don't want to bring to the table what that kind of man would want.
That's the issue.
They're like, well, yeah, I want the guy who wants to have a family and I want the guy who wants to get married, but I want to do all these things.
Well, that guy doesn't want the woman who does those things.
So, okay, you know, take your pick.
Yeah.
But yeah, you might be right.
I think if you look at how they live, conservative women still live much more similar to feminist women than conservative men do to liberal men.
In other words, if you say, okay, conservative man, liberal man.
Conservative man likely owns firearms, is protective of his family, is willing to take risks, go out, try and make it on his own, right?
Traditional family values, okay, all those things.
You look at the polls, wants a woman to be at home to raise the children.
He's okay with taking on the burden of being the primary or single household provider.
Then you look at conservative women living like feminists.
Like, well, I'm just going to make sure that I'm independent and I do me and I have all these things, so I'll never be dependent on a man.
Okay, fine.
But that also takes time.
There's a time equation.
And that's time that you could be spent being a teammate.
But it's this whole idea that, like, hey, if you're supporting a man, you're a sidekick.
So, and isn't that beneath you?
Why?
Why is it beneath you?
If you're not going to be the president, why does it matter if you're a teacher or a nurse?
You could support the president.
Do you have any idea how much more influence you have there and how much more of an impact you can have?
Like, wouldn't you say the same thing about your son?
If you're a woman, like, hey, you could raise your son to change the world if you raise him right.
Isn't that more important than working a tech job?
Treat it the same way with your husband.
Yeah.
A lot of this, too.
And just to go back to the spiritual kind of question at the beginning, you know, being set against, and maybe there's something there to kind of dive into.
But really, if you want to look at it, honestly, I've been doing a lot of research on this kind of stuff.
And so maybe I'll talk a little bit more about it later.
But the Protestant church and kind of how feminism has overtaken most of not all for sure, but most of the Protestant church, especially truly kind of Bible-believing churches that are not a part of any denominations within Protestantism, it's something to take a very, very strong look at, very strong look at, because that is part of the problem right now.
Because you think that's the place you go to get correct teaching on what's in the Bible about kind of gender roles and what we're supposed to be doing and responsibilities and duties that come with both of those roles.
And you don't.
You get a lot of people trying to kind of twist and turn and get their way out of talking about certain passages or when they do talk about them, say, well, it doesn't actually mean that anymore without any real basis for saying that, other than I don't want to offend the women that are here.
And look, part of the failing of men in this instance is faith.
100%.
Now they're coming back in record numbers, thank God.
But men are supposed to be the spiritual leader of the household, whether women want it or not.
Men, that is your responsibility.
And churches cater to women because that's who brings the family to church.
Yeah, it's been that way for a very long time.
And so I think it's one of those things that's been fed by both ends of the problem: men abdicating spiritual responsibility, feminism overtaking the church.
They both feed off of each other and it just gets worse.
Yeah.
I think it's got to be corrected.
I don't think so much, I agree with everything except I don't think it was a lot of abdicating responsibility so much as a concerted effort from people to invade the church to make sure that we created this gender equality.
And by that, I mean that genders are the same.
I don't mean that we're not equally valuable in the eyes of God and wanting people to get into the workplace, get into the workforce so that you could have more cheap labor.
I think there was a very conscious effort.
And I think that a lot of people here were just blissfully unaware.
And I think, unfortunately, a lot of conservative women are still very unaware.
They think that being traditional means you don't sleep with as many guys before you get married.
And, you know, you like single-digit body count instead of devil.
Yeah.
I do see your point, Joe.
You say you did the abdicating of the responsibility of taking the family to church.
I do think that.
And stuff.
Like, cause that's what that's how my house was.
My dad went to gone to church.
I mean, my uncle's a pastor, pastor, you know, most of his adult life, and they all went to church.
But my dad's not a religious guy.
My mom brought us to church.
Yeah.
I knew so many people like that.
I saw it on TV all the time.
You always see this TV dads are like, oh, I got to go to church.
And mom's like, get your pants on.
You got to go to service.
You got to go to mass.
Yeah.
Or whatever.
And, you know, I think it's a little bit of both.
So I appreciate where Stephen's coming from on that because I think, you know, when you see it in the popular culture, rarely are they just making a point that's completely true in society.
I think it's, there was a bit of an ideology push there.
Yeah.
See how lazy dad is sitting on the couch all the time and he's a bumbling idiot.
That wasn't reflective necessarily of society.
That was them saying, you know, dads are irrelevant.
Mom, mom is the one you need a lot.
It's even worse than that.
Think about like, you know, the Harry Chapin son, which by the way is heartbreaking.
I understand it.
But the work that mom does, if she's in the house, the kids see it because she's working with them.
Right.
Yeah.
They have no idea what the pride-swallowing siege is that they will never fully be told about from their dad going to the workplace.
They just see him come home if they're singing charge time.
They will eventually.
If their sons, they'll go, oh, I don't know about you.
I have that all the time.
That's why he was mad that one day.
Yeah.
I get that all the time now.
I'm like, oh, I get it.
Yeah.
I get it.
I get why my dad threw my nerf missile storm in the trash and then went back and got it later because I complained because it wasn't the one that shot eight rounds.
It only shot four.
Oh, yeah.
And it's like, I understand why my dad was mad that time.
I put styrofoam in my ear and didn't tell him for a week.
Yeah.
That's the most common response for me every time I get mad at my kids and I raise my voice to them or something like that.
I have to stop myself.
I'm like, I know you don't understand yet, but one day you'll get this.
Yeah.
And you know what?
They don't see usually if you get mad, it's because you're hurt.
Often it's like your kids want something and you're really looking forward to making them happy.
And like kids have a tremendous ability to just shit on something that you thought was going to be a wonderful, tender moment.
I don't know how many times I've had to sit my kids down and be like, look, someday you're going to want to hit your wife too.
Yeah.
Someday she's going to tell you, no, I don't want steak tonight.
Yeah.
And you're going to go, I freaking told you.
I remember one time with my parents, I remember my dad reacting this way.
It was, my brother got like some really big gifts, okay, from my parents.
And we got, this is still we were young enough where we got gifts from Santa and, you know, gifts from my parents.
And I was jealous because he got some really big gifts from my parents.
And I was like, well, you guys weren't all this.
And all you got me was a rumble pack.
He's like, he goes, you got a whole Nintendo system.
I said, yeah, but that was from Santa.
And my dad just went.
And he walked out.
Hey, you know what?
Rookie mistake.
He should have got the rumble pack from Santa.
Yeah, I know.
He should have said, we told Santa we were going to get you an N64, and Santa thought it would be a nice little addition to put that rumble back in.
Plus, he's making cutbacks.
A lot of jobs are being sent over.
You know, look, we all have to communicate with Indian Santa.
But looking back, there are little things that I did that I could see.
It's like, oh, man.
And you think about that.
Like, and he didn't even take credit.
He gave credit to you know, Santa got the credit, and I was being a spoiled little shit.
All right.
Next couple of chats.
See, there's a fisticuff story that talks about.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, but I don't think it actually, I don't think blows were dealt.
Oh, man.
And that guy he punched has a big face.
He does have a punchable face.
That's true.
Yeah.
I say this is, I can say it because I have a very punchable face.
It's okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Next chat.
That senator that was grilling JFK or RFK Jr. the other day.
You want to sound like Mr. Mackey?
No, no, not Mr. Mackey.
The one with the prop pinched.
That's a starfish to remind you of my butthole.
Do you see this, sir?
This is commemorating my first lip biscuit album, Charlie Starfish.
Also, you could see like he was trying, like he was hoping that he could make it organic.
Like while he was talking to him, he was like, oh, let me ask you my next question.
Hold on, let me hooking the light here.
He was like toggling it.
I was like, at first, I was like, why is this guy playing with his nipple?
And I was like, oh, he's got a prop up there.
Oh, did you?
He was like, I thought you asked me about my starfish.
No, I didn't say chat.
Well, since you brought it up, I did.
Let me assign meaning to the stupid thing I'm wearing.
No, I listen.
I tried to think of the dumbest thing he could possibly say next, and it was exactly what he said.
I was like, I was just making fun of you.
You're not really doing the like, if you help one starfish, it matters to that starfish, are you?
You weren't pin for that?
By the way, there are plenty of starfish and they're not endangered.
Screw them.
Next chat.
Yes.
From Revins Padawan.
Question for Stephen: Do we have to worry about the women whose goal is to have children that are only doing so for child support and alimony?
If you're black.
Oh.
No, I'm going to tell you, it's a problem across the board.
It's far more common because of the baby mama culture.
Or if you're in the military.
Yeah, it's true too.
That's a big problem in the military.
If you live in a military town, you know what I'm talking about.
And it's a big problem for celebrities if you're wealthy, if you're a celebrity, if you're an athlete.
It's just like the whole risk category gets thrown off when one of the parties is a millionaire or very famous.
That's why there's such a very high divorce rate.
There's too much of an incentive and too much of a gap that can't really be overcome naturally.
That's why you see it so much with celebrities.
And of course, godlessness as well.
But even celebrities who are Christians, it's just a horrible, horrible divorce rate.
But yeah, I would be concerned about it.
And I would say, look, everyone can change.
Everyone can change.
Everyone can be redeemed and everyone can make better decisions.
You really have to look for someone, though, who has had their come-to-Jesus moment, acknowledges it, and is willing to speak aloud, the better decisions they're going to make.
If someone says, like, well, yeah, well, I'm traditional now because now I want to have kids.
And if it isn't preceded by, I definitely was not living my values and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between me and a feminist or something to that effect.
I can tell you, it's just going to be a constant push and pull.
And so I would look for all the signs, obviously, make sure your values align, but that's not enough.
That's not enough anymore.
People used to say, and I used to be one of these people, hey, yeah, you know, go to church, find someone.
You know what?
The divorce rate with young people in the church is actually, in some cases, worse.
It's actually worse than secular.
That wasn't always the case.
That's changed recently.
And I think it's because it's used kind of as a screener that isn't really a valid form of screening.
So be very, very careful.
And I would say, of course, if you are wealthy, look, if you've both established yourselves and you're getting married later, and you see this is because women valued their own disposable income, the ability to, they should have a whole lot to show for it if you do.
In other words, if you're both in your late 20s or 30s and you are not married, and that's because she's been pursuing those things and so have you, a prenup should obviously be a given because you should both have a lot to show for it and want to protect it.
That way, neither, you know, you're in it for love.
People say, aren't you planning for the marriage to fail?
You can just do the other way too.
Isn't one of you planning to fleece the other one?
You're there because you love each other, not because it's a get out of bad decisions free card.
Next chat.
All right, next on this.
Next chat from CM Reese 13.
Christopher Crew and Guru Crowder.
How do you think this ends?
Do women start prioritizing women's safety, or do they keep being accepting at the expense of crime?
Seems like they have their dildos and nuts.
Hey.
This is going to seem really cold, and I don't mean it this way.
If were we able to confirm that Irina did have that Black Lives Matter poster in her room?
I didn't know if it was authentic.
We have not confirmed.
Okay.
My bad.
No, no, but it's okay.
I saw from a few pictures there.
The picture was circulated quite a bit.
And in most worlds, you should be able to trust it in her.
Seems like it was a friend's room she was in, is what people are saying.
Okay.
So it could have been a friend's room.
But I assume that at some point people will do some digging and find out the political persuasions.
It's not a surprise.
Matter of fact, it's expected.
Now, of course.
Hold on.
Almost comes to blows.
I have been vindicated by a near fifth fight.
All right, I'll take it.
No!
That is not okay.
That's okay.
He's getting his news from CNN.
That's admonishable.
Come on.
You should take it.
You interrupted Stephen while he's wrapping the show.
No, you're about to answer the question.
That's why you've been admonished.
I don't know.
Hey, where's that light?
I'm not this issue.
Yeah, where's that light?
Well, I don't have a don't be funny like Gerald.
Well, you don't have to have to have one.
No, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You should take it as a compliment.
You're admonished because you're the spotless lamb.
You're a sacrificial lamb.
You're better than us.
We admonish you.
We thank you for your sacrifice, Jerry.
You carry our admonishment on your back.
I do, huh?
I do.
Yeah.
You do.
By the way, oh, did I tell you I got a new energy drink for you that we should try after the show?
It's vinegar.
He's like, why are you putting it in a sponge?
No, I will go back to this.
It's, you know, if it seems it was a friend's room, but it would not surprise me for her to be a Black Lives Matter supporter or a progressive policy supporter.
Of course, she should still be alive.
And of course, having stupid political views in 2025, and that's really the only way to describe them, stupid political views, should not be signing your own death warrant.
I do not want what I am saying to be misconstrued.
But this wouldn't be a departure from what we have seen, and I've talked about this, without women voting.
And I'm not saying women shouldn't vote, but I'm saying without women voting.
If only men voted, you would not have soft-on-crime policies.
You would never have a man released 14 times.
It wouldn't exist.
You would not have a single concussion in women's sports from a man being allowed to compete.
It would not exist.
It wouldn't be a thing.
It wouldn't.
You look at all these, I mean, you would not have a single child transitioning.
You might have some men who individually support the idea, but not enough of a voting block for entire states to make them child mutilation sanctuary states.
It couldn't be a thing.
Matter of fact, I'd even tell you, you probably would never have same-sex marriage.
It probably wouldn't be a thing if only men voted.
Like, no, it wouldn't be enough of a thing.
You wouldn't have bakeries being forced to bake cakes for gay weddings.
It wouldn't be a thing.
You wouldn't have social media censoring and getting rid of people's viewpoints.
It wouldn't be a thing.
You wouldn't have massive lockdowns and vaccine mandates.
It would not be a thing.
This is, and I'm not saying that every person involved with these decisions are women.
What I'm saying is as a voting bloc, it is the only group of people big enough to introduce and to propel forward the corrosive leftist policies that, yes, eventually, of course, hurt women, as you see in this stabbing in Charlotte.
And so the thing that offends women the most, the thing that both conservative and feminist, I'm about to say, the thing that offends them most is also what would protect women the most, both from crime, both from radical LGBTQ AIP policies, from the vultures who seek to put us in a socialist utopia.
The thing that offends women most is what I'm about to say is because it is the only voting block that has been consistently wrong and influential in this country that has led to this point, even if you are a conservative woman, you have not policed your own ranks well enough.
And what women need most, when you talk about, I want strong male leadership, do you really?
Because you know what that looks like?
What's most important is that men protect women from themselves.
You don't need to be protected from guys in here.
There's not a single guy in here, not a single conservative man I know, who would not bury an actual rapist beneath the prison or a child molester.
There's not a single man I know who would vote for a state, and there aren't enough of them, I know you'll find some examples, who would vote for a state to take children away from their parents and give them puberty blockers as a modern form of medical experimentation.
There's not a single man I know who would vote for a man to beat the shit out of a woman in a boxing tournament.
Think about it.
Is it worse for us to infantilize you by saying that men should protect you from yourself?
Or is it worse if you're getting punched in the face by a biological male because you've gotten exactly what you voted for?
Which is worse.
And one thing, too, that's really funny, I will say, is you'll often hear this, and this is important in this context, because women will say, well, you know what, men have run the world for 4,000 years.
Why don't we let the women have a try?
You've heard that, right?
You know, we have, right?
And do you know why it stopped?
Do you know why when women were in positions of power and in charge, whether there was a gap in royalty and it was primarily a queen, or you go back to Cleopatra?
Do you know why historically there was a massive call from the population to stop?
This may surprise you.
Do you think it was maybe because the leadership was weak and maybe things didn't run as smoothly, or maybe it was more of an emotional governance versus no, you know what?
Stopped unfettered, unprecedented cruelty.
Do you guys know that historically?
And you know who wanted men in positions of leadership back?
Women.
Going, whoa, we thought men started all the wars.
But like this person's just killing people because she didn't even like them.
And like new methods of torture that we didn't even know about.
And sure, there are plenty of men who have been engaged in cruelty.
I get it.
What I'm saying is there was enough of a trend where people said, ooh, tried it, didn't work.
Because women, in the same way they give each other advice, it's bad advice.
Women, what makes women better than men in many facets is that they are empaths, to use that term.
More emotionally in tune, people would say.
Great.
But if you're governed by that spot of your brain, that emotional side of your brain, which as a general rule, yes, would tend to be more women than men, that can turn on you in an instant.
Can we at least agree with this?
Emotion can turn on you faster than logic.
Let me ask you: who is governed more by emotion?
Would it be the group of people who have voted in soft on crime, who have voted in no-fault divorce, who have voted in transgenders in their sports, who have voted in transitioning children, who have voted in Department of Education and soda on SNAP, and you can't take it away?
Could we make the case that that voting block that consistently, again, not all, not all, not all, not all, is governed more by emotion than by logic?
And what turns on you faster?
Emotion?
You want that as your guiding light?
A rational thought, logic, reason.
Women, even conservative women, need to be, if I'll leave you with this.
Conservative women out there, if this offends you, okay, let me ask you this right now, and I'll leave you with this, and we'll take some chats tomorrow.
Okay, you're a conservative woman, you're watching right now.
All right.
Especially if you have children.
Okay.
And I'm not going to suggest this as an actual thing to do.
It's a thought experiment.
I want you to picture your kids right now.
Okay, conservative women?
Picture them.
How much do you love them?
How important is it to you that those children have every opportunity you can give them?
And how important is it to you that those children are raised in an environment that is safe, that is loving, and where they have instilled in them the same values that you espouse?
How important is that to you for that legacy to continue?
How important is it to you?
Think of your child.
What would you be willing to do to prevent the state from taking that child and pumping them full of puberty blockers or castrating them or sewing up their vagina?
What would you be willing to do if I could tell you, if I could wave a magic wand right now and I could guarantee you that that would never even be a possibility?
What if I could guarantee you that your daughter would never have to compete against a biological male sports?
What if I could guarantee you that your children would never face the harrowing prospect of a socialist Marxist society at any point in their lifetimes?
What if I could guarantee you right now that none of that could happen in this thought experiment?
I could.
You're a conservative woman.
Forego your right to vote.
Willing to do it?
Take your chance on it tomorrow.
That's what I know.
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