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AI Celebs Just Scammed Women out of Millions & Premium Interview w/ Patrick Christys 2025-08-29 18:07
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Hyperbolic statement at all?
Well, yeah, quite.
I mean, you know, look, the latest, let's just deal in facts, right?
So, the latest census that we had in this country was in 2021.
And what it revealed that in England and Wales, Christians are now a minority.
So, people identify as Christian are now a minority.
It's 46.2%.
The second largest amount of people were atheists, but then Muslims were the third largest.
And that was at just 6.5%.
Now, that was 2021.
The latest predictions for demographic change in Britain will put the Muslim population at just under 18% of the British population by 2050.
So, that's quite stark.
And that would indicate huge demographic and religious, and with it, cultural changes in Britain.
You mentioned the Heathrow Airport situation.
I mean, that's just true.
And people in Britain joke about that all the time.
Another complete farce is that, you know, these hotels full of illegal migrants that I've been telling you about, we employ legal migrants to work as security in those hotels.
So we are importing illegal migrants and then we get people to come over from countries like Pakistan and India to act as security.
So we've got legal migrants being security guards at hotels full of illegal migrants in this country.
It's insane.
Make that make sense to me.
That's like the worst Ponzi scheme I've ever heard of.
And again, the only reason we now know about this is because people have started saying, Well, I've had enough about this migrant hotel.
I'm going to go and have a little look at it.
And they've not like broken into it or something like that, but they've, you know, they've taken it close like citizen journalists, more or less, with cameras.
And they're trying to engage with the security staff.
And they realize they can't speak English, some of them.
Some of them can't even speak English, which is insane.
But to come back to your point about the potential issues with Islam, I suppose, in Britain or the levels of Islam in Britain, there's a few different aspects to this.
So we are undergoing a law change, which is a new Islamophobia definition.
Okay, so what that could mean, could mean is that it would, me having this conversation with you right now could be legally Islamophobic, which is nuts, right?
So there's that.
It could stifle conversations on things like the grooming gangs issue.
Really, they have really been just called the Pakistani rape gangs issue because the overwhelming perpetrators have been either from Pakistan or of Pakistani heritage here in Britain.
That could be stopped by this Islamophobia definition.
Extremism and terrorism, talking about terrorist attacks or the potential for extremism and terrorism, that could be stopped.
Also, what we've had is very concerning situations.
So, for example, there was a school teacher in Britain at a school called Batley Grammar School who decided he was a religious studies teacher.
He showed some children a picture of that Charlie Agdo cartoon front page, the one that depicted the Prophet Muhammad.
This was in Britain, in Yorkshire, in Britain.
He is currently and his entire family are in hiding and in police protection and will be for life because there were calls for him to die as a result of that.
A woman who's, I think, 13 or 14-year-old son who has autism was in a local school.
He accidentally knocked over a copy of the Quran, which must have been in one of the classrooms, some religious classroom, and it scuffed the Quran.
She had to go to the local mosque, flanked by British police officers, to apologise to the local Muslim community as a result of that.
Britain has the highest proportion of Sharia courts of any Western country.
We have at least 85 Sharia courts in Britain.
That's more than we have a Western capital for Sharia courts.
We're also seeing other issues rear its head, which have been entirely imported from the African or Muslim world.
Things like honor killings and female genital mutilation.
I get that these are very depressing topics to talk about, but I think it's important.
We have now clinics here, dedicated clinics, national health service clinics in this country, dedicated to dealing with issues of FGM and with honor killings.
These are not domestic British issues.
So if you look at all of that, we also allowed a huge proportion of Islamic State fighters to come back to Britain.
And it's only recently that we've prescribed a new terrorist organization called Hizbut Tahrir, which were already prescribed on the continent, despite the fact that our current prime minister acted as their lawyer to try to prevent them from being banned as a terrorist organization in Germany.
Anyway, shortly after the October the 7th massacre in Israel with Hamas, they took to the streets of Britain and called for global jihad with big orange banners on the streets of London.
And finally, that led to them being prescribed.
You know, there have been leaders of Hamas organizations that live in council houses in Britain.
We've given them council houses in Britain.
So that thing that JD Van said there, I get was in jest.
I get it was tongue-in-cheek.
But you add all of those different things together about where Britain is now, both culturally and societally, and then you look at that direction of travel there, like I said to you, predicted by 2050 to be somewhere in the region of 18% Muslim as a population.
I think those problems are only going to get worse, not better, I'm afraid.
Yeah, and we know this, again, another thing that's kind of said in jest sometimes, but is really a serious issue, I think, if you think about it, is the Muhammad thing, right?
That each year, for the past however many years, the most popular boy's name in Britain has been Muhammad.
But once I started looking into the list, I noticed it wasn't just Muhammad.
I think it was, I have some other names here too.
It was Ibrahim, Ali, Yusuf, and Muhammad spelled a different way, are all in the top 50 of British boys' names.
That doesn't strike me as George or Harry.
I'm sorry.
So fine.
On its face, that could be a little bit of an issue, but add that with all the things that you've just said.
And it seems to me like the politicians, even the ones that might think they're importing a voting block, would have to wake up and smell the roses.
But just to let you in on a little bit of what we've experienced, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Andy Burnham.
I think he's the mayor of Manchester.
Yeah.
So I had some personal contact with him at South by Southwest this past year and pushed him on the things like the grooming gangs and why he was so proud to see Manchester become a multicultural society.
You mentioned the numbers in Britain, but I have numbers here for Manchester that blew my mind.
In 2011, it was 49% Christian, now it's 36.
And it was 15.8% Muslim, and now it's 22.
So almost parity, Islamic to Christian society.
Britain, forgive me, from my perspective, was an inherently Christian society.
And if you import something so frequently, then when does Britain stop becoming Britain?
When is it in something else entirely?
Well, if we take our lead from our dear king, which is probably the most British man that there could possibly be, our king, he's shifted from being the defender of the faith, which is the Christian faith, the Protestant faith, the Church of England faith, of which he is the head of, to being defender of faith.
So faith in its entirety.
So some people would see that as being just a nice little fluffy thing.
Okay, fine.
Another way of looking at that is that the ball is rolling down the hill so fast when it comes to multiculturalism and diversity and different religions in Britain and the retreat and decline of Christian culture that in order to basically feel as though metaphorically he has to keep his head, he has decided that he wants to retreat from being defender of the faith and being just defender of faith.
It's symptomatic, it's symbolic, a little bit like those name changes that you mentioned.
All of these little kind of anecdotal things.
Things like seeing road signs in Urdu, for example, or when you go into the hospital now, you know, you'll have an English word and then it'll be under, and then it'll be, you know, various different Arabic or Urdu or even Pashtun languages or Farsi, all of that.
So that just shows you the kind of the rate of where it's at.
And again, people don't like to believe what they can see and hear with their own eyes.
Recently, we celebrated Pakistan Independence Day in Britain.
That was, I think it was last, I think it was last Thursday.
And for Pakistan Independence Day, Birmingham Council, our second city, painted their entire public library in the colours of the Pakistan flag.
They even hoisted the Pakistan flag.
The Lord Mayor hoisted the Pakistan flag above Birmingham.
And there were street parties, total street parties, lawless street parties, by the way, in Manchester, which you mentioned, in Birmingham and in London.
The police didn't want to step in and stop that.
They didn't want to do anything about that.
So that, again, to me, you know, at Faith Valley, you might be a sign-in wall celebrating your historic culture.
Another way of looking at it would have been to be a show of force, really, and, you know, an attempt to show, look, we are here.
We're here in serious numbers and we're not here to mess about.
So, yeah, I mean, it's been happening for ages.
For a long time, people were forced into silence because the worst thing you could be called in Britain was racist or Islamophobe or far right.
But now I think that tide is turning.
But the question is going to be, you know, is it too little too late, really?
I mean, practically speaking, I think the time to have, if you cared about trying to keep Britain, largely speaking, as a kind of, you know, a Western Christian society, the time to have dealt with that and put your foot down was probably 10 or 15 years ago.
And it's very difficult now to see how that changes.
I mean, another good example for you on this is you've mentioned our cities.
The demographic change in our cities is huge.
But there is currently planning permission that's been accepted for a two and a half million pound mega mosque in Cumbria, which is one of the most rural parts of Britain.
There is not a Muslim population in Cumbria.
There might be like a couple of hundred or something like that.
And, you know, it's insane.
So they are building a two and a half million pound mega mosque there to service like basically no one at the moment.
But what it will do, obviously, is act as a beacon.
And then you are in a situation where, you know, the picture postcard, typical quintessential British countryside suddenly becomes, well, a place with a with a very, very large Muslim population, which, okay, all right, people might say it was racist to have a problem with that.
Well, it's a kind of about culture, isn't it, really?
And we have tourists from all around the world who come to places like the Lake District because it's like one of the most British places you could possibly come.
Very tweed, you know, all these stone cottages, all of that stuff.
You know, and if the culture of that area fundamentally changes, well, then you've, well, then you've kind of, you've kind of lost your country, haven't you, really?
Well, yeah, that's kind of what I wanted to touch on a little bit more because there was a video coming out of Dearborn, Michigan, just a couple of days ago where they had a big rally and there was a man that said essentially that the Muslims in the West, it was their job to stand up to the American Empire and help it fall.
The American Empire that's been hurting our people since the beginning.
The imperial Western powers that have been hurting our people since the beginning, they must fall.
And inshallah, inshallah, they will fall.
Usher in the fall of the American Empire.
That seems pretty self-explanatory to me, what some people want to do.
So we know that there's politicians that want to import this for their own reasons, probably business owners that profit off cheap labor.
But you generally wouldn't fault asylum seekers or people that have suffered hardships abroad for wanting a better life.
But it seems to me, and maybe you can answer this better, that a lot of these people coming to Britain, coming to the United States, other Western countries, might potentially have other motives other than just seeking a better life?
Yeah, so, well, yes.
I mean, so we know that on a few fronts.
I've already mentioned to you that we have absolute proof that Islamic State sleeper cells have been coming across, that the Iranian government has been bringing people across as well.
We've just, just in the last few days, arrested an asylum seeker who turned out to be a Houthi rebel.
So these are just the people that we know about.
And so just purely in terms of that sense and the pure terrorist side of the Islamist issue there, well, we know it's happening and it's impossible to police.
So that is there.
And again, it's a question, isn't it?
It's almost like an unanswerable question as to whether or not all of these people are just singularly coming here for a better life or whether or not they would quite like feel as though they feel as though there is some kind of religious duty to try to spread out around Europe and around the world.
The thing that I would say about that, which would indicate maybe that some people do have that view, is that there's not really been a huge attempt at assimilation or integration.
And these aren't just by asylum seekers or whatever, just by people who've come here legally, really.
I mean, you know, there are huge pockets of this country now where you would have no idea where in the world, well, certainly nowhere in the Western world you were if you walked down there.
You know, very little desire to quite often have English as a first language sometimes.
And we are now seeing the stats on this are quite stark that some of the most fundamentalist and extremist Islamist people in this country are the youngest generation.
So people who were born here now.
The Henry Jackson Society did a bit of research into this in the wake of the October the 7th disaster and found that some of the most sympathetic support for Hamas and other terrorist groups was amongst the 18 to 24 year old demographic, which would strongly indicate that they were born here.
So, you know, there are very, very, very concerning things.
But of course, you know, in Britain today, you know, I can hear what people in Britain watching this will say.
I mean, by the way, if they're watching this, they probably agree with it.
But people watching in Britain will say, which is that like, gosh, you know, you can't have these kind of conversations.
It seems, all seems a bit, all seems a little bit racist.
It's been, well, okay, well, should we just not believe what we can see with our own eyes then?
And we are now getting stats to back this up.
We're getting statistics about this.
You know, people used to say, well, you didn't really mind about the Ukrainian refugees coming over.
I say, well, they weren't coming over in anything like the same numbers and they were all women and children and we could see the war.
So, and they want to go home when it's over.
So there's some key differences there, aren't there?
From like a thousand Sudanese, Eritrean, Iraqi and Afghan men coming into your country in a single day, which has happened on small boats with no intention of going home, with every intention of bringing their family over here.
And the latest stats that we have about crimes relating to these people, by the way, is that one in every 100 of them is wanted for or has committed a crime here in Britain.
There's a case that's erupted.
There's an Ethiopian man who came across on a small boat and was in Britain for four days and committed five sexual assaults, one of them against a girl.
Wait, can you repeat that one time that went over my head?
That's a crazy number.
Yeah, there's an Ethiopian man who came across on a small boat.
He was in Britain for a number of days, four or five days, and committed four or five sexual assaults, one of them against a young girl.
And that was at a hotel called the Bell Hotel in a place called Epping, which is in Essex, which has then been one of the major sites for communities coming out and protesting against that.
I mean, another thing that's happened there as well is that whilst there were protesters outside that hotel, locals, mostly women actually, wearing pink shirts saying protect our kids, there was another arrest from a man inside that hotel.
So whilst protests were taking place about the idea that some of these people might be violent sex criminals, there was a man inside who's just been arrested for several counts of assault and one count of sexual assault.
So even whilst you've got, he could see from his window in that hotel, this guy, that there were people outside, locals protesting, saying, you know, we're worried about the kind of person who's in here.
That wasn't enough to stop him allegedly committing sexual assaults and physical assaults as well.
You know, it's nuts.
It's bonkers.
So you've got the one thing about, you know, whether they want to kind of come here and take over and all of that.
You know, that's, I don't know necessarily where I entirely stand on that, but the safety issues.
Yeah, and I just don't know, and maybe you have a better answer, how long we have to keep pretending.
You mentioned the Ukrainian refugees.
There was kind of a situation here where we brought over some Afrikaner, South African refugees.
And sort of the progressive left made the argument, oh, what's the difference between ex-immigrant and why immigrant?
But I don't know how long we had to pretend that the differences in Slavic culture and British culture or Afrikaner culture and American culture are not way less dissimilar or way or way they have way more in common than Middle Eastern Islamic culture and any culture on the West.
I mean, by default, Islamic culture preaches things that are antithetical to Western values all the time.
So why is it such a big deal?
And why is it considered a racist thing to call out something that's so blatantly obvious to anybody with a lukewarm IQ?
Yeah, well, exactly.
I mean, but it's because people don't want to hear it.
It's because it would just shatter their worldview.
It would shatter their view that absolutely every single human being is exactly the same.
You know, we're not, I'm not saying that one group of people is better than anyone else.
But what I am saying is you just have to be like blind, deaf, and dumb to not appreciate that there are huge differences from people based around geographically where in the world that they were born, the culture, the religion, everything, everything, everything that you've been brought up in.
Like in a way, by definition, that is a very human thing.
A lot of us are just products of the environment that we were brought up in.
So people are very, very, very unwilling to accept that.
The thing that I will say about that is, though, that I think that's having to change.
Because now, for the first time in Britain, we are starting to get statistics through that show things like Afghan men are 20 times more likely to commit a sexual assault in Britain than Brits.
You also just get the general crime levels.
I mean, in London, for example, I think it's something like one in every three sexual assaults and rapes in London were committed by foreign nationals.
That's not just like a Muslim thing, it's just like a foreign national.
These are things that we've imported that, haven't we?
You know, we have enough people in this country that need to be dealt with.
We have enough people in this country that commit crimes, that commit sexual assaults, all that.
We've got our own problems.
But then when you're importing it by the thousands every single year, it's absolute lunacy.
So, yeah, but I think, and I worry, that we are going to end up in a situation where we have to have a serious, serious conversation about how compatible people who have a more fundamentalist Islamic belief are with the West and with Europe and with Britain.
So what we're seeing now is Islam becoming very involved in British politics.
And that is a very, very dangerous thing as far as I'm concerned.
In the wake of the October the 7th attacks, there was a party that wanted to be created called like the Islam Party, Islam for UK, or something like that anyway.
And they rejected it because it was overtly religious grounds.
But then what we've seen is splinter parties coming out, which are all just obsessed with Gaza.
That's all they're obsessed with.
Gaza, Gaza, Gaza.
And what we're seeing now is independent candidates standing up around the country and winning elections, winning elections in places like Birmingham, places like Manchester, local council elections in British towns based purely on the issue that they stand for the people of Gaza.
And what happens there is that there are huge numbers of the local Muslim population who feel compelled to vote for those people because there is a lot of community pressure.
There is a lot of religious pressure there.
There is a lot of cultural pressure there that you have to vote.
If you don't vote, if you don't vote for that person who is pro-Gaza, then you're a genocide enabler.
Are you really a proper Muslim?
All of this stuff.
So we're seeing that now in Britain.
And I don't think it will be that long before that group of people who so far are these independents dotted around the country unify and form a coherent force.
And then it's going to be very difficult for Britain because if we see the population increase to, like I said to you, about 18% Muslim or something along those lines.
And by the way, I don't envy aspects of the British Muslim population about this because I think that I think many of them will come under a huge amount of pressure in order to vote for whatever candidate is backed by the local Imam or the community elders or the community leaders.
And then before you know it, you have got the religion of Islam seriously impacting British politics.
Well, so we see, obviously, that's a huge problem.
Everything you've laid out seems like a problem that would make the British public more sympathetic to the question I'm about to ask.
And perhaps your NGB's audience is, but I'm curious to know what the British public opinion, either from just regular people and even the government or the media figures, what is it when they look at what Donald Trump is doing to enact his immigration policy right now in the United States?
Because even amongst his less popular policies, immigration seems to be one where he's consistently above water with the American public.
But on immigration, you better get your act together or you're not going to have Europe anymore.
So what does the British public think about what's happening in America right now?
Well, you've got half the British public that, you know, President Trump could rescue four babies from a burning building and they'd still think he was evil, right?
So you've got half those people that are just idiots, okay?
Orange man, bad, whatever.
You've got the other half that I think are more normal who look at it and actually feel a deep sense of jealousy because he's doing things that we would like to do, like just blocking the border or turning people back or deporting people at a quick rate, sending them back to their countries.
I mean, there's even this ridiculous situation in Britain.
We had something called the Rwanda plan, which was that we were going to pay for Rwanda to build several different complexes over there.
And we were going to send our illegal immigrants to Rwanda so they could be processed there.
If they were approved, they would move to Rwanda and be part of Rwanda society.
This current government blocked that.
Now your president is using the accommodation we built to send people who've broken into America to Rwanda, which, you know, I mean, I don't feel, I mean, I would, great.
But I just think it's ridiculous.
So, you know, and he doesn't seem to have any problems deporting people.
I've already outlined people we can't deport.
You know, this for me is the biggest issue facing the Western world.
It's immigration, both legal and illegal, because everything comes from there.
Issues with public services, issues with culture, issues with housing pressures, issues with the economy, everything stems from that.
And it looks to me like your president is sorting it out.
And it looks very well, I know, what's happening over here is that our leaders are far, far too weak and that they're willing to give in to people who are a vocal minority of people who are these kind of like hardcore refugees, welcome, Antifa style people.
Know there's two different questions there, really.
The first one is how much the population really liked Trump.
Well, unfortunately, I don't really see that ever rising that much above 50%.
The other half of that question is: well, how many people would actually support Trump-like policies?
That's a better question, probably.
But if it wasn't Trump doing it, that like loads, right?
Loads of people.
I reckon like 85-90% of people would support it.
But the problem is our government listens to that 10 or 15%.
And the reason why is because they are that 10 or 15%.
And so they listen to them and they're too weak to act on it.
Well, I did.
Sorry, I did want to touch on kind of the free speech issue.
And we're just kind of running out of time because I know you have a hard out, but I do want to kind of end on this.
You've mentioned it a few times.
Britain and the United States share a really rich history.
We fought in multiple wars together, and we have what people call the special relationship, right?
Like the closest of close allies.
But increasingly, I think in America, when we look over and we see things like arrests for social media posts or the forfeiting of a culture so willingly in a lot of ways, we wonder: is this a special relationship that interests us in the future if we continue to divulge?
Should we look to a country like Japan or Korea that seemingly has more culturally in contact with us now than Britain does?
Now, that might be a little out there, but that's kind of some of the talk that's in the ether.
So, I've heard you mention that this is kind of the last chance for Britain.
So, how do you see this going?
Does Britain, you know, rise up?
Does the lion rise, as you said, and kind of reclaim its rightful place in the world?
I don't want to say rightful place, it's earned place in the world and its rich cultural history, or does it kind of just fade away into obscurity?
What are we looking at here?
Look, we have one chance left to save Britain, as far as I'm concerned, and that chance will be at the next general election.
I hope that your audience knows that there are the overwhelming majority of people in Britain look to America as our great ally, and we really do.
And we feel let down by our, it's not us, all right?
It's not us who are messing this up, it's not us who are screwing this up, it's some of the idiots that we've had running our country, and that has to change.
So, please do not lose faith in the British people, don't lose faith in the British public.
And I do think that that British lion is roaring because the situation has got so bad, and we are starting to see more and more people.
And this is where I think outlets like GB News come in, because we are now having conversations on national television all day, every day, that no other outlet in Britain, like the BBC, would ever entertain.
You wouldn't ever be allowed to have that.
So, now people feel more confident and more comfortable to voice their views because they agree with this stuff out in public.
They're refusing to be silenced anymore.
So, everything that has happened can be undone.
It'll be very difficult, but it can be undone.
We can get control of our borders.
We can start deporting people who shouldn't be here illegally or criminals, etc.
We can start deporting them and we can reclaim things like free speech.
We can do away with the Online Safety Act, which is a ridiculous bill that is basically stifling what can and cannot be said online.
It's censoring content.
We can do away with things like a ridiculous Islamophobia law.
We can do away with things like the pub banter ban, which is going to mean that if any member of staff at a British pub, you know, who's pulling pines is offended by something that someone says to his mate after he's had eight pines, that they can get them arrested and do all that.
You know, we can stop the police going after people for online posts.
Like, all of this can be done, and it must be done.
And I think, I think it will be done after the next election.
I think.
So, do please keep the faith.
I want to.
I want to keep this relationship.
I think it's much better for the world if our two countries are strong together.
So, hopefully, that we can figure something out.
But, Patrick, I really appreciate the perspective.
I think it's something our audience is just going to really grip onto because, you know, we're seeing a lot of the same problems start to come up here.
And like I said, the more aware people are, that's fantastic.
And also, sorry to cut you early.
I know you have to go, but we'd love to have you on the show sometime with Steven.
If there's anything that's ever up in like the British zeitgeist, because we talk about censorship stuff a lot, I think GB News and us could be great partners and something like that.
And likewise, if you ever need an American perspective on something, feel free to reach out to us too.
Oh, Brittany.
Well, this is a special relationship in action.
Can I just say it's been a real pleasure?
I've thoroughly enjoyed this.
And please, please, please do invite me back.
I know there's a lot of stuff that we haven't got around to talking about, and I would love the opportunity to do that.
So anytime.
Absolutely, Pat.
Thank you so much and keep in touch.
Good luck with everything.
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