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Aug. 27, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
01:02:54
🔴Breaking: Minneapolis Catholic Church Shooting Live Coverage 2025-08-27 18:08
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Other side is evil will always be amongst you.
So carry a firearm.
Train your family to be responsible.
Evil will always be amongst you.
So you combat evil words with good words.
Evil will always be amongst you.
So we need to screen for it and take the proper precautions and seal the border.
It's two very foundationally different ways of viewing the world.
So don't be governed by emotions.
It's okay to have a heart, to pray, to weep, to mourn.
Don't be governed by those emotions.
That's what we're called to do as Christians.
And if you're not Christian, that's what we're supposed to be as rational beings.
It's what separates us from the animals.
Let's continue.
We'll see what they're saying on CNN and Remo Premium.
So, boy, what a, it looked like I was just adjusting my breasts.
It's got my shirt all the strips back.
Gerald is out taking a tinkle.
Let me shut this up because they'll be sending me some information live.
Before we get to more information here, first off, let me go in and see what they're saying at CNN.
I really want to take your chats today because I think it's one of those days where obviously anytime there's a national tragedy, we're able to mourn together.
But first, let me see what CNN is saying right now.
What does that tell you?
Well, it tells us that he is not dissimilar from many other mass shooters and certainly many other school shooters.
I think it's, I don't have The entirety of the statistics to back this up, but it's if you look at kind of notorious school shootings, be that Columbine, Uvalde, Sandy Hook, you know, the list goes on and on.
Parkland, the Parkland shooter heads, run-ins with the law.
It's fairly common that these people are not kind of repeat criminal offenders.
They're people who were kind of below the radar, as it were, and simmering in one way or another.
Well, not pause, sorry.
You know what you could describe to?
They say, yeah, below the radar, you know, simmering, maybe someone who's been overlooked.
You could apply that to all young men in this country.
Do you realize that?
People will often, like, if there's a problem with young women, for example, psychiatric medication use has skyrocketed.
People go, well, what is society doing to make young women feel that way?
When it's a young man, it's another young man, probably a white guy.
Am I right?
Yeah, but hold on a second.
Why do you think that is?
Also, if you had a really powerful, let's say, dog, like I do, Joe Lewis, would you just ignore them and hope for the best?
Or would you say, hey, hold on a second, the largest demographic in our country, which also happens to be the demographic of people who go to war and preserve our country, hey, let's do our best by them.
Do they need something that they're not getting?
And I'm not talking about a handout.
I'm not talking about a couple of bottles of code red on SNA.
What I'm talking about is decency.
What I'm talking about is not being vilified.
What I'm talking about is not having a door slammed in your face at every single turn because of an immutable characteristic that you can't control, being born a white man.
Think that might breed some frustration?
Think you might think the deck is stacked against you?
Think.
Think about it.
Affirmative action, it's not for you.
DEI, it's not for you.
All these new grants, scholarships, and STEM, no, it's specifically to keep you out.
Don't put the fact that you're a native-born white man on your resume because you're going to be on the bottom of that list.
You say, someone who was overlooked.
Yeah.
It's a big segment of society.
That's the same segment of society that surprised all of you in their voting patterns.
Because they're tired of being demonized for something they haven't done, being punished for something they played no part in, whether it's slavery, whether it's privilege, whether it's suffrage.
Why do we always look at, hey, again, how'd the system fail?
Why are young black men committing record number of crimes?
It's not even close.
We go, how'd the system fail them?
We look at this go, it's just men.
They're the dangerous ones.
Take away their guns.
We want to talk about dealing with this problem.
Come on, guys, let's deal with it.
Is this live, this man talking now?
It looks like it, yeah.
It's from the hospital.
We have to mobilize certain types of resources like operating rooms and the surgical services.
We have to have emergency providers and nurses.
We have to mobilize things like the laboratory and the blood bank.
So there's a lot of planning and again, a lot of exercises we do throughout the year to prepare for these events.
And unfortunately, we respond to many of them throughout the year.
Can you talk about the injuries at all or any type of what you're seeing here with some of these patients?
You know, I can't get into specifics, but we are dealing with gunshot wound injuries from apparently a high-velocity weapon.
And, you know, gunshot wounds can be very problematic because they can involve multiple body systems.
And again, they require a lot of resources to manage.
But again, you know, we see a lot of gunshot wounds here at Hennepin Healthcare, and we're among the best in the nation every year at managing penetrating trauma.
So we are used to seeing them.
Tell us who where the status of the 11.
Are any of them still in surgery?
I can't, I don't know the status of it.
I can't share that with you at this time.
Does anyone shot more than one?
I can't share that information with you at this time.
Hear inform the families of some of the victims that made their way here.
Yeah, we've had quite a bit of effort to stand up a reunification center across the street here at our clinical specialty care building.
And so to my knowledge, I believe all or almost all of the families and loved ones have been reunited with patients.
I know their status.
Do you know if anyone is being treated at any other locations?
My understanding was we had a lot of the non-critical patients that went to children's hospital, and I believe one went to Masonic Children's Hospital as well.
I don't know that.
Well, I want to address a few things here, and I think this is going to go the direction of discussing sort of firearms quite a bit because that'll come up today.
It really is important when I say this, this is just my opinion, that you don't allow yourself to be governed by emotion and making rash decisions or judgments, because if you get that starting off point wrong, then almost everything they're after is wrong.
And we see this a lot, by the way.
We see this a lot in the firearms community.
It's a very nerdy, autistic community.
We certainly see this a lot in government where you look at the cure being worse than the disease.
And you're certainly more likely to be wrong.
Be ready with the clip noodles.
You're certainly more likely to be wrong if the people asking questions about gunshot wounds, about the firearms used, and not only asking questions, but offering prescriptions to you, which they undoubtedly are doing on CNN and ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, New York Times.
If they are so brazenly ignorant that they don't even know the basic mechanical function of the tool they're demonizing, I'll prove it to you.
I was just told that this was broadcast live on CNN and no one was embarrassed.
Seemed like a rifle, he said, a semi-automatic rifle.
And it went on for several minutes.
Right.
And look, that's not uncommon as well.
These things can shoot dozens of bullets in just one trigger pull, right?
And so what happens in this case is sometimes they have enough time to come back to me here.
Yes, Josh, you know, because you've used actual weapons of war.
So has everybody here.
Yeah.
Well, you know, you've used actual weapons of war.
You actually, yeah, you're right.
Actually, yeah.
It's called an automatic weapon.
Right.
Well, you can, one trigger pull can release, I suppose, dozens.
Yeah.
Some weapons, hundreds of rounds.
I don't recommend it because you'll melt your barrel.
Right.
But.
Yeah.
I'm just a little dumbfounded, I guess.
I'm still thinking about Romeo and Juliet, but I still don't know if it's a romantic song.
I got the wrong song is what happened and I fell like an idiot.
But no, she just said the word semi-automatic rifle or semi-automatic weapon, and then he came back with one trigger pull?
But millions of people are going to see that.
Yeah.
And go, that's the weapon.
And then these people across the world are going to go, this is what America is.
America allows you to pull one trigger and get dozens of rounds up.
Right.
It's two idiots in a room.
So just to be clear, it's not, you can't even do the Jesse Venture.
I'm just asking questions, Duff Guy.
No, no.
You're not just asking questions.
She makes a statement, a definitive statement.
He undergirds it with a blatant factual inaccuracy.
And I don't see her calling him on it.
Can we play it again?
Let's extend it just a little bit to see if she does her job, right?
And this is not new to her.
She's obviously, she's talked about covering other mass shootings and also perpetuates the lie that they're happening far more often than ever in the past.
That's not true either.
They happen only in the United States.
That's not true either.
So she should be familiar with the term semi-automatic.
Because if you go to any gun range, any store in this country, every single person can tell you what that is.
So she makes a statement.
He makes another statement that's factually incorrect.
Her job would be to say, well, of course, and as someone who has a lot of experience in covering these, that's not accurate.
Let's see if she does her job.
Let's play it again from the same starting point.
I want to extend it a little bit.
Seemed like a rifle, he said, a semi-automatic rifle.
And it went on for several minutes.
Right.
And look, that's an uncommon as well.
These things can shoot dozens of bullets, you know, in just one trigger pull, right?
And so what happens in this case is sometimes they have enough time to reload.
It's one of the most horrific guns for students.
That's all I've got.
Okay.
All that.
All what he said was wrong.
Guns don't shoot.
Right.
They fire.
The person shoots.
Semi-automatic.
Let me explain to you.
Sorry.
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I'll just say, do you think that she does know what a semi-automatic rifle is?
She would have to know if she's any good at her job because she's covered other mass shootings.
I bet not.
And you think she's a very, very basic trigger.
The semi-automatic.
And then you say, I could fire dozens of rounds.
Stephen, no, that would be a good idea.
No, no, that's an automatic.
That's what we would do.
That would be automatic or that would be bursting.
I would correct because we don't want to look like idiots and put out false information, which we do that all the time.
That's the monitor button, right?
Right.
Exactly.
She doesn't know.
Let me tell you how obvious it is.
People in chat are going to be mad at me for wasting time on this.
Yes, because it's so obvious.
So I have two weapons here, just so you can see unloaded, but I will double check again so you can see nothing in the magazine.
Okay.
I'm going to clear it.
Right?
Okay.
Semi-automatic, really clear.
What does that mean?
That means one trigger pull.
And obviously I'm not taking proper form because I'm trying to hold it so you can see it right here.
One pull, one round.
What happens is that round creates inertia, chambers the slide, and another round slides in, and I pull the trigger again.
Semi-automatic, the technical term means one trigger pull, one bullet comes out of that barrel.
Now, there is an exception to this rule: a revolver.
Again, you can see it's completely, hopefully you guys can see completely unloaded.
Okay.
This technically is not considered one, even though it's still one pull, one bullet comes out.
The only difference is this is manual, think like a manual watch.
This is rotating as opposed to the round zone inertia rechambering.
This is a gross simplification.
But in function, both these weapons and all, pretty much all modern handguns, you'd have to go back to a single action revolver like, you know, in the old West or in the Civil War era, are semi-automatic guns.
And that's important because the purveyors of misinformation use that and then try and push legislation that would remove your ability to own any of these basic handguns, just to be clear.
Yeah, I think that's one of the most frustrating parts of this conversation.
And we can get into the mayor's policies here in just a minute about what he thinks about police.
And it's the same guy that was kneeling and kissing the casket of George Floyd.
And the reason, again, this is where you put your helmet on and try to get through a difficult situation to get to solutions, right?
There's time that we're going to be talking about the families.
We're going to be talking about people's responses to this, and we're praying for all of them right now.
We want this to be solved.
Criminals are not going to do this for us.
So people that go out there and say stupid stuff about semi-automatics and then try to use that to say, oh, we need common sense gun reform.
We need background checks universally.
We already have that.
Yeah.
They're not actually interested in solving the problem.
They're interested in looking like they're doing something good and taking away your rights to self-defense.
That is the problem.
So that is why we go so hard after that because it is not going to solve the problem.
What would do something maybe to solve the problem is having more people trained to be able to carry firearms.
And I understand, I understand you have a right to carry the firearm, whether or not you've received the training.
There's a number of states that do that.
But I love the idea of training with your right to make sure that you are ready and proficient and able to use that firearm effectively if ever called upon to do so.
That's what helps.
You know what stops somebody from whatever magic semi-automatic rifle that he's talking about with one trigger pull that shoots dozens of bullets?
He doesn't have time to reload if there's another person over there who says, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, you're down.
Yeah.
Even more.
That solves the problem.
But they're not interested in actually solving the problem.
Just ask a couple of questions.
It's almost like you've done a change my mind on this.
In fact, you have, right?
Just ask the question.
Okay.
If you take away all the guns right now, how are you going to do that?
Oh, we're going to go after the people that have guns and they register.
Okay, so those law-abiding citizens?
Yeah, they're law-abiding citizens.
Okay.
What about the criminals?
Yeah, you're done.
Conversation's over.
It's over.
Can we go to Amy Klobichar because I guarantee you she's doing a bunch of bullshit?
But talking to the parents is where you really, I guess, your heart just wants to break.
So one of my former employees who was with me a long time, she said I could use her name, Caden Island.
Her daughter, Cora, was in there.
She was one of the older kids.
This is a pre-K through eighth grade school, loved school in the neighborhood, beloved school.
Wait for the part where she tries to strip you of your rights there next to it.
So the kids were in the mass and they were packed in there.
And so this girl, seventh, eighth grade, literally watched her friends, some of her best friends, be shot, one in the neck, one in the stomach.
And when they were running out, when they finally got out, she was the one, this child, who had to tell one of her friend's dads that the friend had been shot.
And in, of course, the chaos that would ensue in any place when there's a mass shooting like this.
And the other information that I got from the mayor and others were, of course, consistent with what you've heard.
This was a man, a madman, acting alone, somehow knows about this ceremony.
All those facts will come out, standing outside of this mass and shooting one by one by one these kids down as they're praying in the church.
I mean, just to hear you describe Cora, an eighth grader, seventh or eighth grader, having to tell the parent of her friend that they were shot.
It's anybody with kids, anybody with a beating heart, it's just beyond.
Right.
Do you know anything more about those who, those more broadly who were injured?
Those who were killed, an eight and ten year old.
Right, an eight and a ten year old.
And then you have a total of 19 that we know of that were hit.
17, of course, we have two dead right now, 17 injured.
And of those, 14 were children.
So there were also adults who were shot, right?
There were most likely teachers or we don't know people involved in the service.
So there were also adults that were shot.
And I'm sure as we hear the details on this, the stories of these people trying to get out those doors, trying to scramble underneath the pews, which is what they were told to do, to protect themselves.
I know they're going to be tragic, but there will also be stories of heroism, stories of faith, stories of parents and others helping each other.
But it is when you think about what happened here and the fact that he had these three guns, multiple guns, I believe it was something over some kind of grievance that may not even involve the school.
And those facts will be revealed when the police have thoroughly investigated them.
But this is a time, as the mayor said, this could be, these just aren't someone else's kids.
Anyone can imagine on the first day of school, I remember this, dropping your child off to a bus or bringing them to the school, thinking they're going to be safe.
It's just the most horrific thing any parent, and I know you are a parent as well, Dana, any parent can imagine.
Yeah, it sure is.
Senator, you mentioned that I know that you want to let law enforcement take the lead here, but you just mentioned that you believe that this individual had some kind of grievance not even related to the school.
Is there anything else you can share?
Not really.
I just think that they have to get to the bottom of this, as you know, with these scenes from covering so many of them.
They might have been made up by lovers and then they're not true, and then you figure it out.
But I think this image of this gunman shooting through these windows, picking off these kids while they're praying, is something that is going to be with people for a long time.
When you think about guns and you think about, as the mayor said, thoughts and prayers just aren't enough here right now.
Because these kids were actually praying.
Yeah, I do want to listen to that because that sent chills up my spine.
I'm sure everybody's spine when they heard the mayor say that.
Let's listen to that moment.
Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.
These kids were literally praying.
It was the first week of school.
They were in a church.
We can't pray for them.
are kids that right should we not we're not allowed to think about and pray for them They should be playing on the playground.
They should be able to go to school.
What they mean is either get in your time machine or shut up and let us take your guns.
They're not going to be the risk of violence and their parents should have the same kind of assurance.
These are the sort of basic assurances that every family should have every step of the day regardless of where they are in our country.
I mean, he's expressing something that I know you feel and most people feel, which is a combination of sadness, but raw rage.
Forget about thoughts and prayers.
These kids were literally praying when they were murdered throughout the window.
Got it.
Thank you.
That's exactly what they're saying.
Thank you, Senator.
And just, you know, the Jacobians.
Jacob, the mayor, and his wife, Sarah, just had a second baby.
So I know he knows this just gutterly of how this feels to think of your own children in that situation.
And I think part of what he's getting at here is that there's thoughts and prayers, and then the law enforcement does their job well, and the hospitals do their job well, and they save some lives.
Law enforcement kills.
And people are injured, but there's a whole room of those kids in that church that are going to never forget what happened.
Hopefully they'll be able to get through it in their own lives.
But you think of that in other mass shootings.
It's the immediate death.
It's the immediate family.
But then it's a whole community.
And ultimately, it's an entire nation that has to grapple with the fact of we have too many guns out there right now.
And there's all kinds of policy things that we could do that would still preserve people's right to hunt, people's right to collect guns, people's rights.
They care about guns for sport and guns for protection.
But at some point, how about the right to homeschool, keep your kid home, that's right, you fight that, where you've got daddy with a gun or mommy with a gun.
Think you might be safer?
How about that?
How about 94% of mass shootings take place in gun-free zones?
That's right, you don't want homeschooling.
You want to give them to the state.
By the way, are kids more likely or less likely to be victims of violence at public school than private school or homeschooling?
I don't remember.
Can you tell me that?
I don't remember.
Huh?
Can you please answer me that?
What of your solutions help anything?
Anything.
And she tells you she doesn't even recognize what our fundamental rights are about.
You can read it right there in the Second Amendment, where it's talking about the militia.
It's talking about, just so you're clear, insurrection.
It's your right to an insurrection against a tyrannical government if it no longer fulfills the role that government was supposed to be in this country.
Just to be clear, the Second Amendment guarantees your right to have a fighting chance at an insurrection in case there's another king.
Let's be really, really clear about that.
And the commas weren't put there by accident.
Look, when you're talking about this too, they'll wave their magic wand.
It'll fix it.
Of course, it never fixes anything.
Wave their magic wand.
Everyone will have food.
Okay, that doesn't happen.
Wave their magic wand.
Everyone will get into college.
Well, hold on a second.
Test scores are worse.
And wave their magic wand.
No guns.
It was over 400 million guns.
You, as a rational person, you understand, right?
Okay, you cannot control everything.
No human being can control everything.
I can't control what someone else does, right, with their gun.
I can't control what someone else does with a knife.
I can't control what someone does with their car.
We've seen that too.
Okay, so if I want to keep my family safe, can I control variables, right?
It's about minimizing risk.
Now, you say more mass shootings than ever, but that's not really true if you go through the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and they changed their definition of mass-free shooting.
And we're not the only nation that has had them.
I come from Canada.
We basically invented the school shooting.
Look at Concordia, École Polytechnique, Dawson, this idea that it only happens in the United States.
All right.
But still, minimize the risk.
All right.
If you were someone who worked in statistics and risk management, you go, okay, all right, we're talking about mass shootings right now.
Where are they most likely to occur?
Gun-free zones.
Oh, okay.
Is there a way to control to stay out of those places?
What's the gun-free zone where people spend the most amount of time nine hours a day in a public school?
You can control for that.
You can't control never being in a gun-free zone.
But if you were to craft a solution right now to minimize your risk of being a victim, you would say 94%, okay, take place in a gun-free zone.
That's where the most amount of time is spent in these gun-free zones.
Okay, how can I avoid that?
Maybe keep them out of the gun-free zones as much as you can.
Public school, fish in a barrel.
Maybe that would be a start.
Maybe keep your kids home and protect them.
You know, maybe have your kids at home learning from their family who loves them, who, by the way, is tasked with the responsibility of protecting them.
And this is also a really big thing, too.
Men were the protectors.
A man is to lay down his life for his family, for his wife, and a woman is to submit to her husband.
but that's a really clearly defined role.
Wolves at the door, man goes out.
It doesn't need to be a conversation.
He gets submission.
He is the leader of the house because when that time comes, he lays his life on the line.
Well, we've done away with that.
Home, protection, avoiding gun-free zones, and then doing everything you can when and if you have to go into a gun-free zone.
Wouldn't that be a solution?
Hey, I'll tell you this.
I don't get to be with my kids all the time.
You think that I'm not worried about it?
You think that I don't know that I am much more supremely capable of protecting my children and have taken every single, I know that my kids are safest in my house, period.
It's not even fucking close.
Can't control everything else.
Do you think that I'm very much aware that the public school teachers or the people at daycare, largely women, or if they're surrounded by other women who don't take these measures into their hands and don't, by the way, have the testicular fortitude to deal with the same kind of violence that we were designed, by the way, fearfully and wonderfully created.
That's part of our purpose.
Yeah.
Yeah, it gives me cold chills.
Matter of fact, it's the most recurring nightmare I have.
I can't control that.
If you can, boy, is that a blessing.
Don't spit on it.
Take your kids.
It would be like every society.
Hey, before we got to the modern era, let's say 60s onward, I just described every single child in the educational process.
They learned at home with their family, maybe in a shack by candlelight like Abraham Lincoln.
Good news is you have technology.
You can do it.
You can avoid the single largest period of time, swath of time in the day that you would subject the most helpless people, children, to the most dangerous area, statistically in the United States, a gun-free zone.
Take them out of those, don't put them in those places.
Put them in a place where you can control the variables and you can keep them safe.
What's that worth to you?
Little extra free time?
Little extra disposable income?
Don't want to give up a carnival cruise?
You're putting them every time you put your kids there in a stat where 94% of mass shootings occur.
Still is very unlikely to be clear, but it's more likely.
And what's their solution?
More money, more money, more money, more money, more money.
People with guns wouldn't help protect kids at public schools.
And here's the thing, too.
When you look at this, this is all misinformation.
It's not a PSYOP.
It's not controlled opposition.
It's people with a godless agenda who don't understand human nature who are trying to push for solutions.
Now, for solutions that, by the way, deny human nature, are rooted in godlessness, and then add a hefty dose of not knowing what they're talking about at all.
Let me give you an example.
One of the most studied shootings ever, ever, because it changed policy in this country with the police force, the Miami Dade shooting.
Someone can look it up.
I know it took place in the 80s.
Actually, funny enough with the historical record, you have different news articles that list different years.
The reason this one is so important is because it's the reason that police officers switched from revolvers to, again, this revolver to semi-automatic handguns.
Both are one trigger pull, one bullet, okay?
But you can get more rounds, higher capacity in modern semi-automatic pistols.
Now, this is something that you'll probably hear at your local gun range.
It's probably something that you'll hear among people who even know.
And they're wrong.
What happened is these police officers were called to a shooting, and they were armed with revolvers.
And the two suspects had these high-capacity weapons and they outshot the police officers.
I don't remember how many died, but it was tragic.
It was a bloodbath.
And so people looked at this, said, whoa, whoa, wait a second, we're facing a different kind of criminal.
What solutions do we need to come up with?
And the solutions that they came up with were largely, okay, police officers need higher capacity weapons.
So they switched from revolvers to semi-automatic handguns.
That's what most people's takeaway is from it.
And by the way, I'm not saying that they shouldn't have switched from revolvers to semi-automatic handguns.
That's not the point that I'm making.
There's a little more context to that.
There's a guy named Paul Harrell who was on YouTube.
He would just talk in the woods about guns.
He spent a long time as a law enforcement officer.
He died tragically.
Really, really brilliant guy.
And he's covered this.
I know other people have.
Here's the truth about the Miami-Dade shootout.
And maybe you would come to different solutions if you knew it.
These were robbers who had committed other armed robberies and shot other people.
The FBI knew about this.
And I don't remember if it was law enforcement, FBI, or both.
It kind of gets murky when the shootout happened, but the FBI knew about it.
They knew there had been reports from witnesses.
They had described the perps.
They had described them.
They were violent.
They knew that these guys had higher capacity semi-automatic rifles.
That was described to the FBI.
Think about people like Dillinger.
Think about back in the day, there was a term they used for these criminals where it was like, I don't know if it was a smash and grab.
They had a specific term because this was the kind of, they would usually show up with a Tommy gun and it was just brute force, not as much planning.
And so police officers knew how to approach them back then.
They too would show up with a Tommy gun, right?
They weren't playing games.
They showed up and they were ready to send your ass to hell.
For some reason, the FBI, the NA Dade shooting, some officers got there.
There were some people with actual MP5 rifles, but they were too far away.
So the shootout ensued.
Okay, let me change a couple of things.
First off, yeah, we need to switch to semi-automatic handguns.
There was an officer there with a 9mm semi-automatic handgun.
I believe one of the officers fired several magazines.
And we know that he hit the guy at least once because there was a bullet wound that they could verify.
There was a second one that went straight through, so we don't know who hit him.
All right.
So that doesn't really change anything because they did have that.
They weren't really two perps.
As far as I remember, one of them really only fired one shot and ran away.
So it wasn't even about dealing necessarily with multiple attackers.
There were some people who said, we need more firepower.
We need to switch to 45.
Well, it turns out that some of the police officers actually had 357 magnets, which were far more powerful.
So it wasn't the power of the round.
It wasn't not having semi-automatic handguns.
It wasn't that you're facing a gang of people and that you're outgunned.
There were two major failures.
One was preparation because they knew what they were going into.
They didn't prepare for it adequately.
And two, hey, what do you think there might be the case if someone fired several magazines and there was a lot of lead going both ways, but more officers died?
Marksmanship.
So they could have looked at it.
Now again, we go to today, today, police officers, 50 rounds a year is what they train.
Even the guy who had a higher capacity semi-automatic handgun in the Miami-Dade shooting, which we now know is, hey, the solution was semi-automatic handguns because revolvers don't cut it, couldn't hit the broadside of a barn knowing they were going into a melee with a serial, violent offender who was heavily armed, and he didn't have the training to hit him.
So that's people who studied it.
And of course, the information gets disseminated.
And so we end up with, ah, I guess that's why we switched to these guns.
The solution would have been different if you said, wait a second, maybe we need to establish a protocol where you go in very prepared for these situations, where we give officers different tools to deal with the different threats, you know, like the military does.
And maybe we should focus more on marksmanship so they can hit the person once they show up, regardless of the gun they have, more than 50 rounds a year.
But the major solution that came out of it was, oh, switch from this to this, even though someone had that and still was ineffective.
So you see how if that jumping off point is incorrect, it's just like aiming a gun, aiming a gun.
If you're 10 feet away, ah, you're a little off the target.
If you're 100 feet away, you don't even hit it.
So what do you think happens when these people go out there and go, we could stop this with gun control?
A semi-automatic is a machine gun.
There's so much misinformation.
And then one party, and by the way, they're lackeys in the media, are going to try and craft solutions based around, at best, a lie.
Or at best, ignorance, I should say, most likely a lie, because they don't care what the truth is anyway.
They have the same information we do.
And here's the thing.
I'll take it one step further than Gerald.
I don't want to solve it.
I know I can't solve it nationwide.
I'm just going to tell you that.
No one can.
No one can.
Anyone ever solve it throughout all of human history?
Whether it's bows and arrows, whether it's swords, whether it's revolvers, hunting rifles, homemade explosive devices.
You tell me where throughout all of human history someone has solved it.
Sweden, go screw yourself.
Okay?
Stop.
You're embarrassing yourself.
Oh, they don't have violence.
Just shut up.
No one has ever solved it.
What I do want is for you to be able to solve and factor in all of these portions of the equation to make informed decisions in your life.
I can't solve it societally, and neither can they.
Let me ask you this.
Can you fix your city?
Where do you live?
Can you fix your city?
Can you make your city safe?
Where do you live?
Austin?
Make Austin safe.
Better yet, get 100 people who you know make Austin safe.
More than the city council.
Make it.
Where do you live?
Charlotte?
Make Charlotte safe.
Chicago?
Make Chicago safe.
Fargo?
Make it safe.
Schenectady, make it safe.
Can you do that?
No.
No, let me ask you this.
Can you make your home a whole lot safer?
Then why wouldn't we approach this that same way?
I'm not going to try and lie to you and say that we can solve it.
No one can solve it.
But there's a lot that you can solve in your life.
At your house, make sure you have an alarm system.
Most valuable thing you can have is a big dog, just to be clear.
Cops will tell you that.
Have firearms.
Have them stored safely.
Make sure you know who's coming and going.
You can make your house a fortress.
Can you fix your city?
Amy Klobuchar can.
You buy that shit?
And as I understand, Lane, the brain just came in, so there might be something developing.
I don't know if we have to.
Hold on and get that.
And I know that these are aimed in your direction, but you've seen that they're unloaded.
Tim, let me know when you have a bunch of them.
Hold on a second.
Get the mic on you.
So there was reports, interesting reports on X and stuff.
We got to adjust this.
A lot of unverified stuff.
But George started looking through the comments, and there was one link that purported to be a manifesto that this person uploaded to YouTube.
Okay.
We went to the YouTube.
Potentially we haven't yet.
No, we went to the YouTube.
That was a linked.
We can't confirm anything, but within the 10 minutes that we were looking through this, we decided to download it.
The channel has been nuked.
The video has been deleted from the internet.
In this video, you can see what seems to be a graphic of the church that was just shot up.
Okay.
A lot of this manifesto is in Russian as well, which is 1247, just to be clear.
1247 right now on August 27th.
And yeah, so you guys did some digging, by the way.
Good work.
We appreciate it.
I cannot confirm.
I just want to make sure.
I know you can't confirm, but you did something.
And since you found it, it's been nuked.
Yes, yeah.
That would seem to be.
Now, it could just be they're nuking it out of safety.
I'm hearing this again for the first time.
So it's in Russian.
Are we having someone put it through a translator?
So the end that we have cut right now is just graphics.
We're trying to translate some of the rest of it right now.
And this is a video that was uploaded?
Yes.
It's about a 20-minute long video on YouTube.
Just want to give the context from the graphic.
Again, it's this Robin Westman and August 27th.
So long.
And thanks for all the fish.
So it would have had to have been a scheduled upload if this is actually from this person.
Yes.
Thanks for all the fish.
Considering it's a church, I wonder if this speculation could be a reference to give a man a fish, teach a man to fish, all that kind of stuff.
It could be fish feeding.
It's a galaxy reference.
It's a what?
It's a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.
Oh, there you go.
That's for all the fish.
See, this is a beauty where you're able to call me on it because you know what you're talking about with nerdy science fiction stuff.
All right.
So this is a video that was uploaded to the channel that was nuked as we're trying to find information.
All right.
Here's some bands I like and shit.
There's one in there.
Alright, that's all.
That's all I do.
I fall.
I break.
And I die.
So I'm sure I'm not the only one who just got chills up my spine watching this.
That's terrifying.
Were you able to confirm the date of upload?
Yeah, it was uploaded two hours ago.
Okay.
So it's either someone with a very elaborate hoax or had a very similar video to the layout of the church in a weird book, or it could potentially be.
Was it two hours ago, meaning it was uploaded before the shooting?
No, it would have been uploaded right after the shooting took place, so it would have been a scheduled uploadline.
It would be a scheduled upload.
If it's not a scheduled upload, then that's, I mean, he had a drawing of the church with the pews and where the windows were and stuff.
It's got to be a scheduled upload, I think.
If it's not a copycat, and again, we're coming to you with this information live and we're trying to translate some of it.
And this person did schedule that upload and you see that there.
That is clearly a mentally disturbed individual.
And I'm sorry, it'd be really hard for me to believe that no one saw the signs.
So if that is accurate, if this is something that we verify, and the parents are going, I don't know, he was a normal kid, right?
You see that a lot of times.
No, I don't know.
This person, I had no idea.
And then you find out that they kind of did.
I very much doubt that that guy is walking around in Dockers and a polo shirt and all of a sudden uploading something like that.
Again, assuming this isn't some kind of an elaborate hoax.
Is it the only video on that page?
It said it had 51 subscribers.
I have a picture right now of different videos that were uploaded also and on air from the page there.
We're looking at it.
Okay.
And a lot of these are Russian?
No, they're all in English.
I know where the Russian thing came from.
So his whole, the whole book before we cut the clip, it's all written in Russian.
I actually have the video still because you sent me the link beforehand.
Yeah.
I can still kind of cycle through so you can see all the Russian there.
Okay.
And like you see the little pony sticker.
I don't, again, can't speculate exactly what that is.
Well, this will obviously help us at least give us a better chance at verifying the authentic or the veracity here.
If that was all written, he wouldn't have had a whole lot of time to do that while the shooting is going on if some of that writing matches up.
Yeah.
I mean, and I would really like to.
So, guys, just if you can, you should be able to take a screen grab, copy-paste it, rush and get a pretty rough translation.
We should be able to get that done pretty quickly.
Again, the idea that if this was two hours ago, Wallace is in the middle of this with a notebook that has a bunch of images, stickers, guns painted on there, the church layout, it would seem like that in scheduled up.
George just pointed out to me this sticker in the video as well.
Defend equality with the gay pride flag or the trans flag, whichever.
I tell you what, I hope that I'm wrong.
I hope that this is bullshit.
I really do.
And I hope that it's some kind of whatever the left tries to make out to be the boogeyman and alt-right edge lord just trying to throw you off the scent.
I really genuinely hope and pray that that is the case, and this is a lone gunman disturbed individual and not another person who has been propagandized by the evil, soulless, alphabet gestapo left that leads young men into the descent of unholy, godless, into a pit of meaninglessness.
I really hope it's someone just pulling an elaborate one.
I hope you're right too.
But I mean, that's that's a lot of that.
That would be quite an elaborate hoax.
Yeah, with having all the supplies, having the stickers already.
Yeah.
The little gay pony and the flag and all the writing in there.
We have to translate, obviously.
So we'll go try.
I'll go try to see what we can do.
I would be interested in good working on that.
I just want to say, again, from my end, from the research end, we're not confirming anything.
Nope.
But it has been deleted, nuked in the span of a couple hours of being uploaded and being tied to this thing.
That's as much as that we can say.
Okay.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Lane.
And guys in chat, show them some love.
Again, they're as transparent as possible what we do know, what we don't.
But this isn't our first rodeo, and I have a pretty good batting average in the past if we say we do believe this is authentic.
At this point, we're still going through the process.
Yeah, and so there, and I don't want to show, just to be clear, no images, nothing like that of who this person potentially could be because we don't know.
But there are images floating around of this person.
There are claims going around of this person being either gay or trans or something like that.
We don't know any of that yet, but just be careful.
There's people out there.
I imagine it's, I don't understand how they can do this without having firm, firm stuff.
That's why X sometimes is good and sometimes is bad because you can see stuff that's not actually true.
Like there's one person saying that they have a page that looks similar, but almost looks kind of laminated.
This is the letter to their family, like all that stuff.
That could be real.
That could be completely fake.
Has anyone else, has anyone else, the people posting that going, this is the identity?
Did they get the channel?
Did they have access?
Are they posting this?
Or it seems like this is something that we did some legwork on.
In other words, they're just going off half-cocked.
You see that all the time.
A handful of people are going off half-cocked.
A couple of more trustworthy, but still sometimes they get it wrong.
Accounts are actually posting some of the stuff that we've seen.
I don't know where the source was from.
I think they said somebody sent a link from this.
Okay.
That said it looked like it.
But yeah.
So anyway, there's this noodles.
So dates of the diary throughout the pages span from July 2025 to August 21st and 2025.
Again, this doesn't show the person or anything, but just one more thing I saw as I cycled through it.
He did make another drawing.
Yeah.
That's a weapon on the back, and him apparently looking at a demon in the mirror.
And that's that's Russian up there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole thing's in Russian.
Okay.
And again, that would seem like it'd be pretty tough.
I mean, again, with AI, it's hard to know anything these days, but it seemed like that would be pretty tough to have at the ready instantaneously with the shooting.
If that Russian language, if it coincides at all, which I'm, I'm still, I'm going to be here with you until we get that.
And so the Russian phrase at the top of the page says, I'll die, is what I'm being told right now.
It looks like a YMP, kind of R Y M P Y, but what is it?
Cyrillic.
Yeah.
It'd be different.
So I'm just telling you.
And guys, you should be able to, you know, have a software where you take the image, you can pull out the text and then copy-paste that into a translator.
That probably would be the fastest way to get a general, general outline.
Sorry, Josh, were you going to say something?
No, no, I was thinking about that band page because that's all we have, but it doesn't, it wouldn't, it doesn't matter.
People listen to music.
Stop.
Stop.
Yeah, people listen to music.
Yeah.
I said as a metalhead and one for my whole life.
Stop bringing that into it.
Are there a lot of metal bands on there?
Of course.
Well, what do you mean, of course?
I don't assume that all metalheads are making it.
Stop associating this thing with that.
That is associated with that.
Let's pause for a second.
Hey, guys, research, do me a favor and watch that video that's been sent in and see if there's anything there that we need to play.
I don't want to play it until I know.
Yeah.
Why don't you pull that text, copy-paste it into a translator, please, as soon as you can, and then someone else verify that video.
Just now I was sent in Tim saw it, I think.
Surely break up the workload.
Yeah.
Guys, we'll see.
We'll see if I just want to be careful on how we proceed.
So Cyrillic, but not Russian language.
Okay.
By the way, doesn't it always just bother you when CNN has the stinger out breaking news to a commercial for what is it?
Oil the lake.
Breaking news.
Just an herbal essence.
It's oh, yes.
Yes.
Well, that's not.
Come on.
Well, if all it took was shampoo, I'd buy it.
Yes.
So would I. Although, in a manner of speaking, shampoo has assisted.
You never know.
At least a body wash.
Yes.
Conditioner is good to use.
That's what I hear.
Yeah.
Soft.
You can make more conditioner.
What's the so stay?
Let's stay around for just a few more minutes.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Yep.
Look, we're going to be here as long as it takes with this.
So let's take a chat or two.
Sorry, I know I'm filling your plate, Mr. Metalhead.
I'm going to go out and check in with him real fast.
Yeah, I could say Taylor Swift on there.
Yeah, I could.
There's some rap in there.
I'll give him that.
Okay.
Chat from the Neeby Jeebies.
Question for the crew.
Do you think they're going to lean hard into this religious anecdotal tear jerker type of journalism to try and get the Christians on board with gun reform since most are going to already have?
Yeah, they already have.
And I will tell you this: going back to, I know you guys, not that I hate women.
It's not that at all.
It will work.
And a lot of churches.
You've seen churches come out, right, and support gun control.
Why?
Because they've allowed a lot of churches to be feminized.
They're the ones who bring their kids to Sunday school.
They're the ones who are often more involved in the volunteer work.
And women are more prone to be manipulated through emotion.
We see that.
That's also why you see the numbers.
Women support gun control far more than men do.
Not all, not all, not all, but they will use that and it will work on some people.
It won't work on strong men.
It won't work on strong men who want to protect their flock.
It will work on people who go, well, Jesus was nice.
Let's do what's nice.
Wouldn't it just, come on, can't we just all have a peaceful world?
Let me give you the answer.
No.
No.
We can't.
It's never going to happen.
You'd love to, but that's the reality.
Yep.
You'd love to.
And if we could do it, there'd be no need for Jesus to come back.
Yeah.
Because we could do it ourselves.
If we could fix it, why would God hang his son out to dry the way that he did?
That's what it would be, right?
It would just be like, why would you do that?
We could do it.
You could have just told us we could have stopped killing each other.
And God would be like, oh, you could just stop all the evil and like, we don't have to have any, like, no subtles, no Gomorrahs.
Like, cool, you're going to stop persecuting?
All of human nature.
You guys can end it?
Ah, I guess my work here is done.
No, the answer is no.
Can't we all just get along?
No.
No, we can't.
Klobuchar was already doing the anecdotal stuff.
I remember my first day of this and that.
It's like, okay, I mean, it's all anecdotal and you're here for it, Jennifer, a reason.
There's a reason why, you know, two hours after it happened, a senator, a literal lawmaker, is on there trying to get tears out of us.
Yep.
With kind of a smile.
It was, I don't know, she's got some Botox or what's going on there, but it's like always like a permanent grin that she's got going on.
Yeah, she's just a bad person.
Although I will say.
She's all about anecdotes, too.
Remember that score she did where she's like, and I told Donald Trump, I said this.
And we have like a, we had to get a montage of her saying like 30 times down the same anecdote.
She called me Snow Woman about trying to be some trying to be some kind of tough lady.
Yeah.
Well, we do know that Amy Klobuchar, one thing she did do well, she, I believe, was on the Jimmy Carter spearheaded commission for election integrity talking about voter fraud and how we needed to strengthen our election integrity laws.
She did, but then, sorry, she didn't.
Then we had this, even though nothing was implemented, we had the most safe and secure election of all time.
And she said, sorry, that was us.
I was wrong about all that.
So at one point in time, I would have found some common ground there.
I just, I wonder what changed.
I don't know.
Agendas change, you know.
Yeah, maybe that could be it.
I don't know.
Your guess is as good as it's anyone's guess.
So we are, we're looking at a couple of things right now.
So just to kind of bring you up to speed to where we are, we had a video from the YouTube channel.
That was the one that we showed you guys just a minute ago.
We didn't show the entire thing.
It was over 20 minutes long, I think, something like that.
Then there was an 11-minute video that we were not able to grab prior to the channel being nuked, but we can see the preview of that.
And right now we're just confirming another 11-minute video was sent to us from somebody in chat that seems to kind of correspond to that video.
The writing on the magazines looks really similar.
Everything looks kind of the same.
So right now they're pulling some time codes to walk me through that.
And basically from what I've seen, it was laying out guns, ammunition, showing some writing.
The writing looks very similar.
But the writing, so this is kind of a weird thing about the writing.
And anybody who knows or speaks Russian or understands Cyrillic and can read it, it looks almost like a broken like English Cyrillic, Like they're using Cyrillic characters to say English things in some way.
It doesn't look like it's just like purely like, oh, this is just, you know, somebody writing down Cyrillic.
It may not be someone where that's their first language.
It could be a troll job.
Well, not a troll.
I don't think it's a troll necessarily, but it doesn't look, it looks kind of crazy.
So we'll see.
We're trying to figure out exactly what it is right now.
So they gave me a time code to play.
They also pointed out that among the things that they show were the smoke bomb that the officer had mentioned.
Okay, that was one thing the officer did confirm.
Yeah.
So again, I would tend to lean toward, I'd say, if I had to put a number on it, 70, 80% that this is likely authentic just because of the time, just because of what's included, because of the fact that it was nuked, because of the fact that now we do see that smoke bomb that was confirmed by the officer.
I lean very much toward this is authentic.
And if we just have a couple more pieces here that kind of help confirm, I'll operate from the basis that I'll operate from the same basis that police would.
And hopefully they're doing this work.
I know CNN is not.
I would operate from the same basis as this is the prime suspect.
Okay, so just to clarify, so no one tries to hang me on it.
If we have a couple more pieces of evidence, if we translate some of this, which let me know when you guys get it, and we confirm this video, I need to say we don't know.
We don't know.
I've already said that enough times.
I will operate as though this is a prime suspect and then handle it that way.
Is that fair?
All right, let's grab a chat while they're confirming.
Please get me at least some of those translations.
They did want to show this screenshot from the video, among the other things that it says is kill Trump now.
And optics.
Fuck optics.
Yeah, there's more.
On an optic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're working on translations, but like I said, they may be using Cyrillic letters to spell English things.
Okay.
So that's what they're trying to fix the wall they're running into.
Exactly.
Okay, but they're going to give us anything that is actually Cyrillic and spelled out.
You know, think about somebody who speaks broken English or something like that.
There may be some stuff we can pull that actually is written, or they'll get to the bottom of what actually is on that page.
So they're trying to figure out right now.
Okay, do you want to chat or do you want to see the video from the time code they gave?
Oh, if there's something that they're saying I should see, let's see that.
Here's the 11-minute video.
Correct.
Here's the weaponry.
Some smoke.
Extra thick.
I was just going to say, I think it said extra juke ass.
Yeah, it didn't.
Shit, motherfucker.
Ah, kosmar.
Nuke India.
Wait, what does it say on the strap there?
Can you rewind that a little bit?
Sure.
So as it goes, it says murder.
Okay, keep going.
Oh, I'm sorry.
On the strap.
I just got murder.
Murderer.
Okay.
Israel must fall.
Pain.
Fucker.
Freedom.
Time to play.
Baruch.
Say this.
What?
Take this and eat all of it.
Baruchazad.
Sukka is like bitch in Russian.
Kiss me.
Fuck it.
Okay, and pause real quick, really quickly.
Just so I know some people are saying, hey, you shouldn't show this because this is what this person wants.
I understand, and I used to agree with that.
You don't have that luxury anymore.
You don't have that luxury anymore when people are now purveyors of clickbait online because you don't want to have the choice between people who keep you completely in the dark until it's convenient, legacy media, and clickbait people who do no due diligence.
We saw what happened with Nashville with that.
We saw what happened with the Vegas shooting.
We saw what happened.
What was Sutherland Springs?
You don't want that.
This could just be someone who's throwing out all different kinds of smoke because someone who has an LGBTQ brony thing and then also saying death, whatever it is to Jews or to Israel.
Racial slurs just about everybody.
And again, just to reiterate your point, we haven't been able to confirm this.
Everything looks pretty similar.
Operating as though this is the prime suspect where I wouldn't be able to glean any type of a motivation because this seems like it could be someone who's going, hey, I just want a bunch of press and I'll throw some chum in the water and they'll be saying an LGBTQ activist and then these people will be saying anti-Semitism, right-wing extremists.
That very well could be what's at play here.
It'll kind of come down to the totality of evidence and what we see if there's some kind of a motivation.
But here's the thing.
I do know people and I do know the media and I do know the entertainment industry.
And I know that the reason they're not covering this at all, assuming that they do their job whatsoever and have access to what we have access to, and that's a big leap.
They absolutely would not broadcast this if they saw that rainbow flag on CNN, period, full stop, until they got all the information they could spin it.
If that wasn't there and it was just death to Israel and it looked somewhat conservative, they would cover it immediately as they did with Christchurch, where the person was trolling, saying, I listened to Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens, right?
They would cover it immediately.
So if they have access to this, that rainbow flag would be the reason for withholding.
I'm just letting you know.
I don't think fuck Israel is necessarily a conservative.
No, no, I don't think that's.
I don't know if they would spin it that way either, but I would to the point they would.
If they go anti-Semitism, they try and go anti-Semitism on the right.
But you're right, but that's how they would spin it.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
But to your point of not showing it and but changing your mind on that, this could be somebody who, I mean, obviously seems, if this is the real person, seems mentally disturbed.
Right.
Seems like they might not be of the strongest fortitude and mentally.
Mentally, yeah, and mind power.
So it might be somebody who's being influenced by another person, another group.
This could be more than just a person doing a thing.
It could be a person involved with some other society or some other group that, especially with the broken language not being written correctly, could be somebody trying to, you know, prove something to there might be other people involved.
There might be other people in danger as well.
So I think it is important to show this kind of stuff.
Yeah.
To, you know, see if we can find other people.
People will often point to really quickly.
People will often point to SSRIs.
They'll go to that right away.
It's like, well, hold on a second.
They went on SSRIs because they were already mentally unstable.
Not saying that we should have this mass medication culture that we have.
People often go to one variable.
Let me ask you this, though.
How many times have we seen a mass shooter who came from a good family, was disciplined physically, emotionally, intellectually, spiritually fit, and still couldn't get things right with a strong support social structure?
I don't know of any.
There might be one or two, but it's incredibly rare.
Usually it's not just psychotropic drugs, but usually there's some kind of an absent or an emasculating father figure, if they're at all.
Usually a broken home.
Usually it's someone who is a nerd, who's an outcast, who hasn't done anything to see, experience self-improvement, so they feel hopeless.
You don't typically see a guy who you go, oh, has everything together, even though we all have problems.
Someone who presents well, someone who speaks well, someone who has a good family, someone who has strong moral conviction who just goes off.
You don't usually.
That's the solution.
Breed, raise strong moral men.
Not only are they less likely to do this, they're far more likely to protect everyone else against this.
Yes, Gerald.
So we wanted to know if you wanted to go wide with this.
Go back wide if we're going to be covering this for just a little bit if we're going to stay around.
Okay.
I think that might be helpful.
The only real way to do that in Tim confirmed is we would have to end this stream, start a new one.
So, maybe give us just a couple of minutes to reset, start a new stream, and then we can continue coverage.
Do you want to do that?
Chat, do you want to?
Do you guys think that's what we should do?
We think unanimously.
So, okay, let's do that.
All right, guys.
So, just give us a couple of minutes to verify some things.
Please don't go away.
And the best place, probably, if you're watching right now, is what to close the channel or close the window.
Well, just on Rumble, go to our channel right now.
And as soon as we go live, make sure your notifications are on.
We'll be right there.
So, go to Steven Crowder on Rumble and make sure that you're on our channel.
We'll just take a couple of minutes.
Chat's going wild right now.
I guarantee you it won't be more than we'll put it out on social.
Tell your friends everybody, get them over there to the new streaming.
Okay, all right, let's do it.
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