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All right, Toolman.
Tell for those the uninitiated, tell them what this game is and the rules.
All right, so I'm going to bring up a lower third with a name on it, and y'all have to guess if this name is a hedge fund manager or an Arnold Schwarzenegger character.
Right.
And I'm surprised that we're still able to play this game because we've cycled through so many characters.
I know.
He has so many movies.
He does.
He has so many movies.
He has almost as many movies as polar bears.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if you add them all collectively, but there's no single polar bear.
There's no Arnold polar bear.
There isn't.
No.
There should be no.
Maybe there is.
We don't know.
No.
Like that's.
Coca-Cola one, maybe?
I mean, I guess.
I'm not sure.
I don't think you die one.
Like, it's cold in here, baby.
You don't have to.
He did play Mr. Freeze.
Coke.
Yeah.
It's just being a polar bear show.
Hey, everybody.
Freeze.
Chill.
Get to the polar bear.
I'm supposed to be extinct.
I'm shivering.
I'm still here.
Okay.
Now you die.
Yeah.
I'm going to eat you even in your glass.
Your glass box, buddy.
I could just have thumbs.
Someone should just add that polar bear clip that we had in just the polar bear when it's open.
So, and the reason is because Arnold always just has like some like, I'm Bob Smith.
It's like, ah, we were going to call you Von Saidowitz.
No one will ever buy it.
So it's hard.
It's a very hard game for us to play.
Let's guess the very first one.
Okay, show us the name.
First one.
Joe McCann.
Yeah.
Joe McCann.
McCann.
McCann, you idiot.
McCann.
Whoa.
Wow, that was weird.
This is hard.
I apologize.
Hey, buddy.
I'm a McCam.
That seems like something you would say.
Joe McCain.
McCann's.
Yeah.
Your father was a mechan, your grandfather was a mechanic.
You'll be a mechan.
Not a mechanic.
What do you think?
I feel like this is an Arnold character.
It just, it feels so simple.
It feels so generic that it screams Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I don't even know.
I don't know.
Hey, Joe McCann from McCann and Goldberg's.
McCann McCann.
That's right.
That's what I said.
Joe McCann from McKennon Goldberg's.
Oh, Nike.
Would you say buddy?
Is this?
Wait, is this Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a hedge fund manager in that's the end of the game, by the way?
That's the last question.
Yeah.
When the tip of it.
I say Arnold character.
And of course, I have the champions point.
So you say hedge fund manager?
I say hedge fund manager.
All right, hedge fund manager.
All right.
Arnold, you're on.
Give us the answer, Toolman.
Yes, there is.
We are joined by Joe McCann.
Oh, yeah, baby.
Asymmetric.
No, asymmetric with you.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Forget it.
I'm not going to take my financial advice from a guy with a ponytail.
He's like, hi, it's good to be with you.
All right.
So Josh is tied.
We're one and one.
Coming for that championship.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Well, you know, I'm rooting for you, Josh.
Thanks, Gerald.
All right, next one, Tourman.
Next one.
Joseph Schmidt.
The weird spelling of Joseph.
Yeah, that's.
Ooh, because that would be like, I imagine how an Austrian would spell Joseph.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it?
No need for P and H. That's right.
We don't have time.
It makes the F sound.
Why not make it F?
I think it's something, but I don't think it's Austrian.
Hi, I'm Joseph.
Have you seen my technical dream cult?
Fuck you, Donnie Osman.
They call me a dreamer.
What is that spelling?
Noodles?
What is that spelling?
No, I'm seeing Austrians with that spelling.
Really?
Yeah.
So that makes me think it's not Arnold because he would like.
What if it's an early movie before he had the right to be like, no, I want to be named Joe?
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's the whole thing.
I don't think he would allow it.
Schmidt.
Joseph Schmidt.
Oh, Schmidt.
To be Schmidt in me.
No.
Get that, Schmidt.
Holy Schmidt.
I'm going to go Arnold Schwarzenegger.
You little Schmidt.
You little nine-year-old.
I Schmidt all over myself.
We don't take no Schmidt, right?
I'm Cavid and Schmidt.
Oh, no.
I Schmidt my pants.
Hey, Schmidt bag.
Schmidt.
It's a Schmidt.
It seems like it would be like his foe.
Like at the very end is less than like, you piss of Schmidt.
Smells like Schmidt.
Smells like Schmidt.
Must be India.
What do you think?
It's Mr. Schmidt to you.
I'm going to go with Arnold again.
I was wrong last time.
We'll see.
You think it's Arnold?
What do you think, Josh?
I think it's Arnold.
It does look like an Austrian spelling.
I think this is an early movie.
Arnold Torzeneger.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say hedge fund manager just because I feel like, unless it is an early movie, he was very adamant about not having Austrian-sounding names.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I mean, that's.
It's also weird that it's also weird that the character, because you don't usually see the character's name spelled out on screen.
No.
No, he just says it.
Yeah, he says it.
He usually says it like a lot.
Like, because that's the main thing.
He has to go convince me.
Remember, like, as I said before, my name is still John.
And I'll tell you again later.
Do you remember me, Joseph NF?
Hey, it's me again, John.
In case you forget it.
Joseph Schmidt.
Schmidt.
Joseph Schmidt.
His name is my name too.
Yes.
That's Jigo Heimer, you idiot.
Completely different Schmidt.
He lives down by the bay.
All right.
Isaiah Hedgeman.
Give us the answer to a man.
The answer is.
Son of a Schmidt.
Oh, wait a second.
No, that's a cheat.
That's a guest star role.
That's not a movie.
It's a movie.
He wasn't even an actor yet.
That was just footage of him as a bodybuilder.
No, it's not.
Yeah, his name was Joseph Schmidt.
That doesn't streets of sin for me.
Joseph Schmidt.
I'm the founder of Mormonism.
It looks like it's a new show.
It's season five at night.
That is not permissible.
You cannot pick guest starring roles where they were just showing him as a bodybuilder.
No, it's not a character.
He's the guest.
The game is Arnold Schwarzenegger's character, not Arnold Schwarzenegger roles in a movie where he stars.
Right.
It's not a character.
He's just playing himself.
That is a character.
He doesn't have his name Arnold Schwatzene.
That's my character.
I'm wiping it.
I'm wiping it.
I'm wiping.
Give us a third man.
Josh, I have two.
I have one.
Do you think you know that?
I wipe my ass with your points.
All right.
Felipe Lafont?
Felipe Lafont.
This seems like it could be a role that meant to go to Jean-Claude Van Damme, but he's like, I could do it.
I feel like this is somebody who's.
You think you're the only guy who can do the splits?
Hey, Arnold, say Felipe.
I think it's Philippe.
Yeah, Philippe.
Philippe, sorry.
Philippe.
It was after Arnold took the role.
Well, Ryan Felipe.
Ryan?
Is it spelled the same way?
I think it is Felipe.
I was just messing around.
Philippe Smith.
Or is it Phil?
I think it's Philippe.
What do you think there, Josh?
This one.
If this is all Arnold guest starring roles, I'm going to quit.
I don't.
Why?
Why?
Because it's not fair.
You can't handle the heat.
It's not fair.
Guest starring role.
Josh has two to one.
Because he did a bunch of stuff before he was an actor where they would just have him as a bodybuilder.
They'd label him Austrian.
Oh, he's not a character.
He was active.
He had a name.
It's active.
Fifth IMDb credit.
Yes.
Come on.
It's not like it's nothing.
That's pretty something.
I think if this is an Arnold character, he goes by Phil.
Yeah.
Not Felipe.
No, me, Philippe.
Also known as Phil.
Old Phil and Boy.
Research is saying that he was the main character in this episode.
So it's not a Philip.
So there we go.
So his name was.
I want to see footage of his name being said.
Steven, it's okay.
You're tied for last round.
Yeah, no.
I'm wiping.
It's not fair.
It's not fair.
It has to be post-Hercules in New York, where he's like, I'm so much more than a bodybuilder.
He just said that present.
No, it still isn't counted.
He was still competing in the Olympias.
You just said before we started this, hey, look, Narcan ads.
You just said before this.
You just said.
Do you have a DCP in on this?
You said, how are we still doing this game?
We must be running out of characters.
Well.
Oh, we're running out of characters, though.
I hope you have enough room for my fist because I'm about to ram it into your stomach.
Well, that was a scary character.
Felipe the fist.
That's what Felipe the Fist.
I'm going to fist you.
Oh, geez.
I'll fist your mother.
You'll never know what hit you until you find out it was my fist.
Then you'll say, oh, no, his fist hit me.
Oh, no.
It doesn't make sense now.
It's Mr. Fist.
What do you think?
I'm going to go with Hedge Fun Manager.
It sounds too much.
I think Hedge Fun Manager, this is a French finance guy.
Yeah.
La Von.
I can play that too.
Yeah.
Ha ha.
Yeah.
You need to.
I like cheese.
And taggets.
And have never won a war.
Ha ha.
All right.
Give us the answer.
Today we're going to go interview my very good friend Philippe Lafont, who is the founder and CEO of CO2.
Why is he sitting like a gay?
It's French.
His name's Philippe.
His special French.
He's literally sitting there.
He's like, too much of it.
I would like to make you some money.
No, he didn't seem like he wants to do business with anybody other than Pete Butgig.
Dude, I'm on a roll.
I got three points.
You do.
I have two.
You have two.
No, we wiped one.
So I have two.
I have two, two.
You don't.
No, no, that one doesn't count.
We're not doing the bodybuilding.
We have three.
He will.
The rule is the cutoff is that it doesn't count if it happened before Mike Menser almost kicked his ass.
Next name.
How do you guys do?
Did you guess?
Did you guess hedge fund manager?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
We did.
We all did.
Joe Dowling.
This sounds more like his speed.
Hey, guys, do you want to go rent some shoes, go dolling?
No.
We'll put the guardrails up, buddy.
It's like his character plays a local hardware store employee.
Yeah.
Like, I told you that's the wrong rent, you idiot.
I said, Phillips, that's a flathead.
I don't know.
Working at Ace Hardware.
I need copper.
That's the problem.
It's like whenever Arnold, like, he has to be a badass, but they have to make it in so many cases believable where he's like, like, he was never able to be the unwilling hero.
No.
Like, hey, I'm just a shoe salesman.
No.
Like, no.
He couldn't put on a card.
No, he works at Ace Hardware.
This ace is the place where Joe Dowling works.
I also used to kill people for money and aliens.
But that was a lifetime ago.
I mean, like.
I'm a changed man.
Now I sell scrap metal.
I rescued my daughter one time.
What do you think, Josh, on this one?
It's hard, but.
It's all scrap metal.
I'm going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger.
This sounds like a Schwartzy name.
This does seem very much to me, too.
Joe Dowling.
You just say it like that.
Dowling.
Come on.
Yeah, Dowling.
Do it.
To the rescue.
Dowl me.
What?
Ew.
Ew.
What do you say?
Hedge fund manager.
Hedge fund manager?
I say Arnold, you say Arnold?
Yes, sir.
Come on, Tulman.
Go dowling on me.
My first guest today is Joe Dowling, Senior Managing Director and Global Head of Blackstone Asset Management.
Joe, welcome.
It's me.
I wish she was my maid.
The best you can look for is a tie.
Well, now everyone is tied because that one doesn't count.
Josh and I have three.
You have two.
Even including champion.
No, you know, that one doesn't count.
So everyone has two.
It's a tie across the board.
Let him know.
It is a tie across the board.
You can't take.
That's basically a documentary by another name.
It's not.
It's an episode of the show.
All right, that's fine.
I fit all your criteria.
You can believe whatever you want.
But the truth is, I can do whatever I want.
What's the fifth one there, Toulmin?
The last one.
Joe Santos.
Oh, man.
I'm a saint, you idiot.
Every time it says Joe, I just think it's him.
It's got to be him.
I'm a saint.
Yeah.
I can't die here.
I don't see Santo being, no offense.
Hispanic.
There's anybody out there whose name's Santo, but I don't see it being a hedge fund manager.
Probably not.
Probably not.
I don't see a Firestein being one either, to be fair.
No.
Firestein.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Yeah.
Santa.
I don't like the implication there.
No.
I don't know what you mean.
I think.
Well, Firestein, you can sell good tires.
Yes.
Yeah.
Tires.
Great tire shops.
Those people make a ton of money.
Very little-known shop.
Huge family.
Firestein's.
Yeah.
What?
Nothing.
Nothing to do with this.
I think Gerald's cheating.
No.
I think he's cheating.
I think he deserves negative points.
No.
Literally.
Look, I get an idea, but I get that you feel good.
You've got some momentum that you got to leg up, but I think we have to do the right thing and acknowledge that secrets are not allowed in the studio, and Gerald deserves this.
I will say secrets are not allowed in the studio.
Yeah.
And if we're going to follow the rules, we have to follow the rules as they were set before we play games such as Hedge Fund Manager or Arnold Swiss area character.
So I have three points.
Gerald now has two points.
No, he has the.
You have two points.
He has one point.
You have two, and I have two points.
No, I have three.
I'm glad that you agree.
It's appreciated backing me up.
But Gerald definitely, look, we can settle the rest of it.
We'll settle up the rest of it, but we both agree that Gerald deserves a negative point at least.
Because research sent me a story that's funny.
Well, you can't, you wouldn't know funny if it bit you in the ass.
That's true, but I think it's funny.
I want him to tell me what's humorous.
Lovely guests who see a monkey with a funny hat.
Sometimes it's Josanto.
That's what it's not.
Santos.
I told you Josanto never smiled.
See, I don't know how I don't like how it sounds out in.
I don't do a great Arnold, but I don't like how it sounds.
Josanto.
Santo.
Now he's doing Hispanic names.
He does it all.
Santos Freshen.
I can do all life.
I'm a multifaceted actor.
Riva, Riva.
Rudd?
It's Caliente.
You know what?
Pablo Francisco did the Little Tortilla Boy.
That's right.
And I had a comedian in Montreal.
And I thought he was funny.
I had him open for me.
He did that entire bit verbatim.
And I had no, because at that point, I had no idea who Pablo Francisco was.
He did it verbatim.
Even like, Arnold is a little tortilla boy.
Dude, there was a guy I did.
I was doing a competition in Seattle, Seattle International Comedy Competition.
The guy did a two-minute version of that joke.
Yeah.
The same exact joke.
He did the exact, he even did the, he even did the Keanu Reeves.
No, all this stuff.
Oh, Keanu Reeves, movie trailer voice, Arnold.
Oh, my God.
Little Tortilla Boy.
And you have to understand, it was a mistake, but at the time, I thought it was funny, just like anyone would if you saw Pablo Francisco do it for the first time.
So I was like, oh, this guy's pretty funny.
That's a creative bit.
And so I put him on some shows.
Like he would open for me every now.
And then I found out all of this was ripped off.
And you just realize there's some people who have no problem lying.
They're just like, it's just fine.
I'll just steal it.
I'll just say it's mine.
You're like, but that's entirely.
I called the guy out in this case a competition.
I called the guy out told the talent booker.
And he's like, ah, sometimes it happens.
Yeah, I know.
Like, what?
Sometimes it happens.
Yeah, in music, it's a lawsuit.
In comedy, it's just like, well, whatever, man.
Crowd likes him.
Oh, you play.
All right, Joe Santo.
What do you say, Gerald?
Arnold for the win.
What do you say?
I'm going to say Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Best you can do is tie.
I feel like it's a zag because no one would expect Arnold to be playing a Hispanic, but I'm really hoping that we see him in a Sanchez mustache.
So I'll say Arnold just because I'm hoping to put a tan.
Yeah.
I'm like a heavy bronzer.
All right.
We all say Arnold Toolman.
What's the answer?
Which means that the answer is.
I want to stay hungry.
Hey, Sako, when are you going to show me what you got?
I'll show you what I've got.
Lots of half-naked men.
Show me what you have.
Gross.
This bodybuilding is so good.
I win the first time.
All right.
Well, great.
Champions Point.
It's been a draw.
We're going to have to actually go back to the tail.
We're going to have to go back to the replay and see about the rules with the semi-documentaries.
Tell this has been Arnold Hodge Fund Manager.
I'm sorry.
Disappointing.
This is a chopper!
Hasta la vista, baby.
All right.
Since you're passing notes in the class, what's the hilarious story?
It better be funny.
Don't throw it up yet.
This better be R-O-T F-U-L-K-M-A-O.
Hold on.
So chat, just bear with me.
Can you mute our mics real quick?
Leave the cameras on.
Mute the mics.
Mute the mics.
Okay.
We need like a side.
Somebody in chat reads lips.
I know.
Did you hear?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think.
All right, so, you know, hey, look, hey, I'm the sidekick over here, dude.
I think it's funny.
So Macron has obviously put out the lawsuit for Candace.
Right.
We've covered that before.
That it happened.
And Candace actually saw a video.
She went on her stream and basically said that if it goes to trial and they go through Discovery and they do all this stuff, it's going to cost about $5 million.
They said they don't have that, which is strange.
I guess you just don't want to spend the money.
That's fine.
I get that.
It's expensive.
But she's selling merch now to cover the cost of the lawsuit specifically.
Ooh, that's very ill-advised because that will be brought up.
No, that will be brought up in court.
Yes.
Where it removes free Macron, I think is what it is.
Is it Free Macron or Free?
Pull up.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see.
Oh, it's a video.
And this lawsuit, we got an estimate this weekend from a legal team.
It is going to cost us millions.
Sell that necklace.
I don't have that money.
I really don't.
Oh.
I got to tell you, like, the estimate that we got, and I want to be clear: this is if it goes all the way through.
So they said, like, from start to finish, if it, if this doesn't, if they don't drop this at some point, blah, blah, blah.
How much is it going to cost you just to get through the deposition phase?
How much is going to cost you all the way through?
And they are estimating $5 million.
It's a lot of money.
And we do not have that money just laying around.
Oh, someone else put this up.
Yeah.
I'll side in.
So I thought we could actually sell some t-shirts.
I just picked it up.
I think it's that your house has one house.
One of the London house.
You know what it means?
Like hashtag free emanual.
It's like subtle enough.
You sell the London house.
That's four lawsuits you can afford.
Yeah.
We know it's up.
We know it's going on in France.
Somebody rescue Emmanuel Macron.
I'm not kidding.
The estimate is millions of dollars.
And this.
So that was, what is it, Milk Bar TV?
Credit to him for putting that video together.
I don't know.
I think that's the account that you can follow.
He does a good job of kind of following this case right now.
Holy cow.
Listen, selling merch, there's nothing wrong with it.
By the way, go to our merch shop right now, crowdershop.com.
And you won't see any lawsuit here.
Yeah, no lawsuit to cover anything like that.
But selling merch, when you're.
We constantly have lawsuits, and it's dealt into our costs.
And I don't think we've ever sold merch around a lawsuit specifically.
I don't think we've talked about like, hey, if you want to support us, subscribe.
Hey, there are only two ways to support us.
And it's Mug Club and merch.
And it's always been that.
Well, here's the thing: you sell the merch, you make the money.
Now you have the money.
If you have a lawsuit, you pay for the lawsuit with the money you have.
If it came from merch, fine.
But going out and starting a merch campaign to fund your lawsuit.
Well, here's the other thing.
It's kind of crazy, too.
Look, let me be really clear.
If she is right, and if all those pictures that were sent directly from the Macron family and attorneys of Bridget, you know, as a child, of Bridget at her wedding with her first husband, who Candace said didn't exist, of Bridget with her brother, who Candace said she actually was in real life.
If the dozens of pictures and the newspaper clippings and the documents, if they're all forged and they're all fake, then I hope Candace wins and I hope she takes them for everything they're worth.
If what she says is true.
And I don't like the idea of someone silencing somebody just for expressing an opinion.
When you do a multi-part series making definitive factual claims and double down on it, they're not going to stop if they're telling the truth, the Macron's.
It's going to be expensive.
But Candace would have had to know that going into this.
When she said, I will stake my reputation on this a long time ago.
Well, you knew that this could be a lawsuit.
So here's my prediction: either if I had to predict it goes through and she probably loses, but the damages would be something that you can't really necessarily recoup.
It would be a moral victory.
Or she concedes or settles and says that we didn't raise enough.
That's probably the most likely scenario.
I will say this: if I'm a good lawyer on the other side, at some point, she might translate this has gotten to be too expensive.
And you could argue that it's unfair.
Basically, fighting a lawsuit against royalty, and they have a never-ending supply of funds or the lawyer to convince the judge would go, well, didn't you raise a bunch of money in your campaign, your campaign?
And aren't you the self-proclaimed most-watched show, whatever?
You've had growth.
And that's what they would bring up.
And even more is, well, she's continued to profit off of this libel through this case, as seen by selling this merch.
Like, it's just, I can't imagine that she is talking with any or has any actual at this point.
She said she spoke with a legal team who gave her an estimate.
I've had a lawyer on retainer.
Gosh, I don't know, since 2014, 2015, and that retainer.
And then we've only added more, like it's one of our biggest line items here because we know it's unfortunately the cost of Doing business in this realm of work.
If someone doesn't have that and hasn't prepared for that, I would suggest that maybe it's disingenuous.
Like, you know, that's going to be part and parcel of being this.
So if she doesn't have a lawyer already on retainer, that doesn't seem like she's serious about this.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I don't have a problem with somebody selling merchandise.
Even if you want to do it as a campaign, like, hey, help me.
No, no, it's helpful.
It's the cry poor right before it, because that's dishonest.
Just be honest about what you want people to do.
If I came forward and said, hey, guys, we want you to go and buy this shirt to help us fund XYZ, Mud Club Undercover, or The Election Night, or our fight against YouTube, or whatever it may be, fine.
But I'm like, hey, guys, we don't really have that much money.
And all of a sudden, like, good on Milk Bar for bringing that out.
Like, here's house, house, house, house, house, house, house, property.
And I swear to you, I thought, and we might have to sell.
And I thought, oh, one of the properties, just like you thought, Joshua.
One.
One of the many, many properties.
No, merch.
To do this.
It's just, it's a very dishonest thing to do.
And Candace has a number of other problems in this.
One is with the AI claim.
So she used AI on the pictures to see if the pictures that they gave were actually of this person.
And AI came back and the first one she did, and Milkbar did this as well.
So it's on his channel.
Basically saying, yep, AI is saying most likely not the same person.
Yep, not the same person.
I don't know if it was a new set of pictures or what, but she did a more recent episode where she talked about it.
And like AI is basically saying, most likely the same person.
And she goes, well, you can't trust AI because it's been.
I'm not even kidding.
I'm not going to.
You can't trust AI.
Look, it fed up my t-shirt that I'm selling.
And in one of her videos, she was talking about the teeth of the person.
This can't be the same person.
Look at those teeth.
That's not the same.
You mean the easiest thing to fix?
Yes.
That every single housewife is a line.
You can do crowns.
You can do caps.
You can do braces.
You can knock it out with a sledgehammer.
You can shoot it out with a BB gun and get a new one, Gerald.
You know this all too well.
100% true.
If you wait a while, though.
She's probably had her own teeth.
She's shame publicly.
She's fundamentally dishonest.
She's always playing victim too.
Speaking of her multiple properties, she's out there going like talking about how the Macron's hired investigators.
And she's like, oh, yeah, they hired investigators.
Really?
They're investigating a mother who does a podcast in her basement?
Wow.
What victim do you think you are?
Anytime you get in trouble, oh, but I'm a mother.
Yeah, she doesn't have to.
How dare you speak to a mother that way?
I am a god.
I have children in my eyes.
She'll do that too and say, I want to debate.
I'll debate anybody you put in front of me.
And then she'll platform people who some folks might view as extremists.
And I don't have a problem with platforming anyone.
She goes, well, I want to talk to everybody.
I'm not afraid to platform somebody.
But then when it's someone she doesn't want to debate, she goes, oh, I wouldn't.
That person's disgusting because we called her to debate.
Specifically, there'd be nothing to debate now, but it was the Iranian strike issue.
Well, actually, it was before that.
It was the impeached Donald Trump issue.
Yeah.
And look, I mean, when the FBI, when the mayor of Nashville said they were going to be looking into a lawsuit and the FBI would be investigating us, it's just a different approach.
We said, come get it.
Yeah.
Come get it.
But we'd already talked to the legal team before putting the information.
Yeah.
We also had evidence.
Well, yeah.
There was actual evidence.
Which she claimed was not evidence because she had evidence, which she didn't have.
So, yeah, look, it's not about right versus left.
In this case, it's about, look, truth does matter and it's fundamentally dishonest on many levels.
Maybe she doesn't have the cash in a liquid form right now.
That's possible.
But you don't need to have it in a liquid form if it's just a projection of the law.
I could turn that necklace into liquid gold pretty quickly.
Unless it's all fake gold.
Like the guy in the MRI machine.
Maybe she's paying too high of an interest rate on her mortgage.
American Finance.
Hey, it's Tuesday.
They didn't get a spot today.
No.
Who was the spot today?
The spot today was Tex Network.
Tax Network USA.
Yeah, Tax Network USA.
Maybe she's getting raised.
Maybe she's cold, but the IRS.
Well, considering their net worth, I bet you they spend a lot in taxes.
And if they could, I bet you they could find a little bit of dough there.
A little bit of wiggle room right there.
You can go to Tax Network USA.
If you go to Tax Network USA and you're having tax problems, they will tell you to escape the U.S. and go to your $20 million mansion in England.
And don't say someone who's looking like a woman-ish has a penis.
I can't say looks like a woman because she does look very, you know.
She doesn't look like a woman.
Not.
She's very unfortunate looking.
And I will say this, look, if she is, here's the thing.
And she's a pedophile.
If she is unfortunate looking, but she's actually a woman, that's real.
It's also just seriously mean to run it.
That is bullying, running a campaign on someone.
And I get you're punching up, but still it's like, why do this?
So here's the point that is not in dispute.
The age.
14 and 30 something, I think, at the time.
Yes.
That would have been, if your cause, and I really am trying to wrap my head around this, because either like Candace has like some like information that we all don't have and she's playing 8D chess and she's going to come out on top of this or there's several thousand holes in the case that you know any one of which you could just poke and go okay that's the case but if you're trying to make the point like she's kind of claimed like we don't need this kind of debauchery in government we don't need this kind of okay fine sure you could have made that claim with the age gap and the fact that he was a student at the time and all of that that would have been salacious enough she has talked no i know but
That could have been your point.
Why does it matter?
On top of that, I mean, yes, it's worse, but what is the, is it worse to be trans or a pedophile?
Because this is the thing, Candace, and look, there are people, and we've talked about this quite a bit, there are people in here who are not in the content business, they're in the click business.
And there's a very big difference.
And so for her, it's, wait, something's popular, I need to one-up it for a click.
So for example, the Nashville Manifesto, and we showed it to you where there were plans, where it was these Christians, these crackers, these people who I want to kill, right?
We're going, okay, and this was withheld from you.
That's important.
You should know that, especially because it also tied into some other shootings where information was being withheld.
And then that obviously was a big story, went viral.
And Candace being someone who's in the business of clicks, not content, goes, actually, that's not true.
She was sexually molested by her father.
And I have an inside source.
Now, none of that was true.
None of that was true.
It wasn't even remotely true.
From was that the public?
Yeah, Tennessee Star is the paper.
Yeah, who did great legwork.
According to the officials of the city, according to the documents that we had, according to the police, according to the FBI, everyone who had a scan at those documents, there was no evidence of it whatsoever.
But it doesn't matter to her because she goes, oh, wait, this is getting clicks, this actual content, which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce just that one piece of content and research and making sure that we crossed our T's, dotted our I's.
What do I?
Let me just add a lie.
She was raped by her dad.
Click, click, click, click, click.
That's great if you're in the click business.
Not great if you're in the content business because it actually hurts those who create content, who go out and do the legwork.
And that's why you get a lot of people.
It's easy for people to go jealous.
It's just like a comedian who works really, really hard and crafts a really good bit and then sees it get ripped off by someone who's already on television.
Yeah.
It's like, well, that's great if you're in the comedy money business, but not great if you're in the comedy writing business.
She did that too with the Dennis Leary helmet joke.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Literally, I think that was the name of his album or it was his tagline.
Put a, what was it?
Put a, get a helmet, get a helmet.
Yeah, life's hard, get a helmet.
And then she used that and sold it as merch.
You know, so it's like, you know, at a certain point.
And you know what's funny is, is that from a Dennis Leary movie or is that from a stand-up?
Stand-up.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it was from a stand-up.
Yeah, life's hard, get a helmet.
So anyway.
All right, let's grab some chats.
Is that something he took from?
From what?
Bill Hicks.
Oh, well, he took a lot from Bill Hicks too.
Yeah, there's a lot of that too, where it's like, you know, he did it and then he got ripped off.
So who knows?
It could be the inception of ripping off material where she's in a parallel universe ripping off Bill Hicks.
How fun is that?
And McCrone has a penis.
Allegedly.
Bridget.
Wait, what about him?
No, I'm saying that's a parallel universe is what I'm saying.
At least one of them has a penis.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's real.
I'm saying it's, you know, like the Mexican Spider-Man.
It's a parallel universe.
Let's grab a chat.
All right.
First chat from Newcastle777.
Question for the crew.
I'm a young guy and Big Don is about all I know for a political climate.
How different is it from the early 2000s?
And do you think it'll revert back to normal from the Trump era?
No, here's the thing.
It's not.
In some ways, it's very similar, but there are some differences.
I would say going back to the 2000s, it was a comedic witch hunt where George Bush, it was just open season.
Hey, what an idiot.
Dumb texting, right?
Every comic had bits about how George Bush was stupid and Republicans were dumb.
I mean, you couldn't find any.
There were no comedians who were even remotely right leaning.
It just wasn't a thing.
And if they were, it was people like Nick DiPaolo who you didn't hear a whole lot about.
everything that we know, including the people at, what was it, the Tennessee Star, so so so i will say what is similar is they they called george bush a nazi we went through that george hw bush a nazi ronald regan a nazi nixon a nazi i mean you can actually find you know posters and albums with them and a swastika on them and now they'll tell you like well these were just people with whom we had uh fundamental differences uh but we were worthy adversaries.
But it's very different because Donald Trump is a fascist.
It's like, no, no, no, you, you guys accused all these people of war crimes.
You guys accused all these people of being Nazis.
So that's not new.
The shifting dynamic, I will say, is the default position was always liberal.
And I talked about this quite a bit for millennials.
Everything you watched, everything you listened to, every TV show, every movie, every band that you listened to by design, and of course, if you went to public school, if you went to college, told you to be a liberal by default.
You would have had to be really proactive in being a conservative to be an American raised in public schools, go to college and listen to any mainstream bands or television.
That's different now because of what was referred to as new media or social media, online media, because you can hear many voices for the same reason that you see top 40 is never going to have the same amount of play and reach that it used to because people are so fractured.
They all have kind of their niche, just like Johnny Carson used to get, what, 25, 30 million people watching some nights.
And now these late night hosts are lucky to get 2 million.
So people are more fractured.
And so you see, I would say, more offshoots like a libertarian, of like, you know, the left is still completely socialist, I would say.
And I will say this, the big change is that the left has gone very, very, very far left, where it's pretty much like you're not going to have a Clinton Gingrich working together on some kind of a budget.
It's just anything Trump says bad, anything Trump says is evil.
And I will say they've gotten a lot more aggressive.
And I think a big reason for that is because they've been losing their grip of control.
To sort of encapsulate it, you never would have seen CNN, you know, falsifying, changing the color palette of a Joe Rogan selfie video and saying that he's eating horsepace because there would have been no one who had the kind of impact that Joe Rogan did, right?
It was just like CNN would be like, why are you even talking about some blogger?
Who cares?
We're the ones who have the microphone.
They're desperate because people like us have a microphone every day.
There are tons of people now who have a microphone that's, by the way, reaches far more people than them.
So I will say they've gotten more aggressive.
The left has gone far left.
The right was going pretty moderately left and now is recentered on some issues, I would say.
But I don't know that it's all that different.
It's always been incredibly polarized.
Yeah, and I think you're just more aware of it now.
Yeah.
Right.
Because you've got all of this stuff in front of you with the social media stuff.
You've got all the news stuff that we, you know, were being developed at the time, but early 2000s, late 90s.
I mean, you didn't have nearly the proliferation of cable news networks like you do now.
Right.
So I think just access to information and also what is normal in politics, especially when you're talking about the polar, like the opposites in these parties.
Like there is no normal when it comes to the issue of abortion.
It's just Republicans kind of been getting screwed on this issue for a long time.
Right.
There's no normal when it comes to how things are run fiscally.
Like I know we have deficits and things like that, but what we choose to spend that money on.
Right.
And obviously we both need to move away from deficit spending, but we have very, very different spending priorities.
Right.
There's nothing normal about just going, oh yeah, yeah, that's totally fine.
I think it's fine for us to be in a little bit, like I would rather be in a phase where we are at a little bit more aware, a little bit more at odds, so that we can kind of work out what we really want.
I don't want to just continue to go down this road of, wait a minute, 30 years have gone by and look how far we are from the ideal that we started with.
I would also say there's less, funny enough, you talk about how polarized it is.
I would say there's less stigma being a conservative.
I mean, in the early 2000s, if you just said like, well, actually, I don't say, I'm actually glad that George Bush won over Al Gore.
You know, for as flawed as he was as a president, people are like, oh, what, what?
If you were under the age of 30, no one could believe that that was the case.
Whereas I think now they've accused so many people of being Nazis, where you have, I see young men that are just like, yeah, my God, screw you, because they don't care anymore.
So I think it's fallen on deaf ears.
One thing I will say, I talked about this with Razor Fist.
At least on YouTube in 2008, 2009, liberals there, because they were also alternative media.
If you were to have a debate with some mainstream sort of broadcasters and new media, they would present some pretty good arguments, right?
They could kind of tie you in some pretzels.
I don't think they really stand the test of time.
But now the left has, I mean, for example, on CNN, Why wouldn't they have?
They don't call me.
Why wouldn't they have all the mainstream conservative people you know about who are far more popular than CNN?
Right?
They would benefit from the ratings boost.
They don't even make the calls.
Their belief is completely shut out this voice because they've discounted us as Nazis.
And so they're very insulated and they really aren't able to argue their points the same way that they were in the early 2000s.
Because at least then they could say, well, George Bush is president, so we're the opposition party.
They have been in control of the culture and media and entertainment for so long that they definitely have become soft.
And I'm often very shocked as to how weak the arguments are coming from people who you would expect to be more formidable than you're seeing.
That's a big change.
I also think that with the left going more far left, I think that a lot of people that would normally vote left or vote Democrat are okay with saying and doing the opposite of what the left is doing.
Like, for instance, I have a lot of friends that are either military veterans or comedians, and they're on the left, but they voted for Trump.
Or they didn't vote for Trump or they didn't vote at all.
Or they're like, ah, geez, I don't know who to vote for.
Kamala sucks.
This is terrible.
Or they go, yeah, I voted for Kamala, but what Trump's doing is great.
I had a friend yesterday.
He goes, Trump talked about legalizing marijuana.
My company took a 50% increase in value.
Wow.
He's like, that's pretty good.
He said, this is great.
This is great.
I don't like what he's doing here.
What the hell is this?
Yeah.
And I think that people are more willing to say that.
They're more willing to go, hey, I really don't like this guy.
Yeah.
But he was a better option.
Yep.
Because they put out this terrible candidate pretty much three elections in a row.
And I just hope that my hope is that those people finish the circle and go, okay, but how did we get to Kamala?
How did we get to Biden?
In other words, this didn't just happen.
What was happening in 2000?
And I think it's forced a lot of young people to re-examine Barack Obama because it was a period of hero worship.
Oh, man.
And now people are going, oh, that's where the start of a lot.
And I mean, really intrusive foundational changes to the fabric of America and our form of governance started with Barack Obama.
The people who said he was a socialist and a radical were absolutely right.
And I think now people are reexamining it, going, oh, yeah, that's true.
We should have seen that coming.
So, yeah, I think there's a lot of good, but I don't think it's all that different.
They will always accuse you of being a Nazi, being a racist.
The other thing, too, that I will say is we have results from it.
You have to understand that when we were watching, like, for example, Leonardo Caprio narrating the whatever it was, they were talking about the climate thing where they talked about how they couldn't even film because there wasn't enough snow.
And you look at people like Michael Moore and you look at an inconvenient truth.
These predictions were all being made.
And so many of them, they put a timer on it, and time's up.
And now a lot of people have seen predictions not come to be.
Also, on the positive, they've seen the Department of Education fail abysmally.
They've seen the welfare state not work.
They've seen the results of Section 8 housing.
And then even you accelerate it in COVID, where people are told, if you homeschool your kids, you're just going to be social retards.
And people see the results.
They see, wait a second, public school is not working all that well.
And actually, the kids who were homeschooled fared better and they weren't set back nearly as much.
So I think people, even if they're inherently left because they think it's more empathetic, are able to look at the results and say, okay, well, this just doesn't really add up.
So that is one thing that I would say is definitely different.
And you benefit from that as a younger person.
And we didn't really have that.
Now you have hindsight.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from Sokal Punch.
Question for the crew: How do you guys respond to being asked if you're MAGA?
I live in a liberal cesspool and am always leery of showing my hand.
I have never even said I'm MAGA.
I'm not MAGA.
I've said what I don't know what that means exactly.
I mean, in principle, yes, make America great again.
I mean, I definitely am America first, putting America first.
I think that our representatives should represent the people who voted for them.
I'm a conservative.
What am I seeking to conserve?
Well, what I'm seeking to conserve is what made America great.
And if you maintain that, it'll stay great.
We don't need to guess on that.
Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
You look at the Constitution, you look at the amendments, Bill of Rights.
Okay, great.
Declaration of Independence.
You got it.
Like, that's what I seek to conserve: the Western Judeo-Christian American way of life that turned us into the world's only superpower.
Does not mean that we are not flawed.
I think MAGA is sort of emblematic of that, but MAGA also is, I guess the big difference is Donald Trump sort of got rid of the stigma, the shame of being America first.
Because it used to be, well, we have so much, so we should give it to all these other people until we realize that this doesn't work.
Look at these nations in Africa who've received billions and billions.
They're still cesspools of war and sadness.
Look at the wars that we've funded.
How about we start actually prioritizing our own people first as opposed to being a giant charity for the world?
So I just tell them, I just say conservative, and then if they ask you what that means, explain it to them.
But yeah, like you, I'm not.
Yeah, I'm not, I don't call myself MAGA.
People define it different ways, too.
Yeah.
They define it how it's convenient for them if they're attacking somebody or if they're saying they're proud of being on the right.
I don't know.
To me, it always seems like someone who's very proud of being, I'm MAGA.
It's very, I'm Trump.
Yeah.
And I will never be, I will never be a fan of a politician.
I'm not saying that if you are, that's fine.
I'm not, it's not, that's just not me.
I'm always, you know, skeptical, and I'm happy he's president.
Yep.
Things are going great.
I wish him the best.
Well, hero worship, I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
But I don't want to be, you know, that person.
Also, he can't save this country.
In other words, he can't conserve this country alone.
So you've got to use this movement and this groundswell to go, okay, why were we excited about this?
Because we were at the edge of a cliff and we've backed off a little bit, but we have to back up a whole lot more.
And Trump is great, most effective president of my lifetime that I can remember, but it's not enough.
So don't tie it to MAGA.
Tie it to, hey, you're a conservative.
You can say, you know, if you want to say, I'm a conservative nationalist, fine.
I have no problem with that.
Just promise the leftist media has done that.
They've already done that.
They've already gone.
They've already associated the word MAGA with Nazi.
They've associated the word MAGA with right-wing extremists.
They've associated the word MAGA with racist.
They've associated the word MAGA with all these different things.
And it sucks because some people will go on there and go, yeah, I'm racist.
Yeah, I'm MAGA.
And you're like, hey, what?
Shut up.
They think I'm.
There's always those people.
I mean, they did it with George Bush.
Remember, Kanye West?
George Bush does not care about black people.
That was just one quote, but that was what they were saying.
George Bush, George Bush, let those people of Turkey and Katrina die because they were black.
That's what they were actually saying.
So then if you like George Bush, you're a racist.
If you don't vote for Barack Obama, they said it about McCain.
They said that if you don't vote for Obama, you are a racist.
They showed in a back to the Future.
I was like, I'm 18, bro.
Yeah.
What the fuck do I know?
Well, in a Back to the Future parody on Family Guy, they had the Nazis wearing McCain Palin stickers.
So when they say we haven't done, it's just for Trump.
No, you did it with McCain Palin for crying out loud.
You did the same thing with Mitt Romney for crying out loud.
And now he's a savior of the Republican Party.
Again, there's no principles.
It's just who's the useful pawn for them at that moment in time.
Final chat.
All right.
Final chat from Bouldera, 85.
Question for crew.
If there were no gun laws and you could be as armed as you wanted, would you be more amenable to their not being police or there being private security?
You mean they're not being police or private security or not being police and replaced with private security?
I think replaced.
Okay.
No, I think the police force is a legitimate role of government.
Yeah, it is.
To enforce laws to ensure that people are safe.
Now, I think that that needs to be done appropriately.
I think it needs to be funded appropriately.
And I think it needs to come with the appropriate accountability standards.
And I think when the left, let me give you an idea.
So, no, no.
Now, I can own as many guns as I want, and I own many guns.
Yeah, go ahead.
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead.
You're going to make a great point here, but I just wanted one thing.
If there were no gun laws and there's no police because of it, some people would not be able to afford guns.
Therefore, they would not be able to afford to defend themselves.
Therefore, you could take anything from them just because they're poor or because they don't have the gun or if they're a pacifist or whatever.
It would just, you would just be, oh, I have a private security team.
There's no police force that's going to enforce the rules or protect and stuff like you.
So I can just do whatever the hell I want.
It would be Thunderdome, dude.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
Well, that might do well.
Yeah, yeah, you might do that.
I might do well.
It's not fair to anybody else.
Also, the people who would be in charge would not be the people you think.
It would be old, fat, white guys who reload their own ammo and spend their weekends at the range.
They would be the ones you'd be bringing your sacrifice, just to be clear.
It wouldn't be the Crips with their, like, that's the guy who you should fear.
Now, Here's the thing with the police too.
It's also disingenuous.
Because, look, I've said, of course, should have chokeholds when properly applied.
You, of course, should have other non-lethal options as well as firearms.
When the left says, we need better police, they say, we don't want to defund the police.
We want better policing.
Okay.
So they're hoping you come to their side on common ground.
Now, here's the thing.
In theory, right there, I would agree that we need better police training and better policing.
But you know what?
I'm not going to give it to them.
You know why?
Because I don't like them and because they're being dishonest and I want to fight them.
And here's how you know it's true.
They go, we need better policing.
Okay, great.
We need better standards for the police.
Okay, good.
Let's act like this is common ground.
So we should increase the round count.
Average police officer fires 50 rounds in a year.
We did what, 20 times that at the range this last weekend?
50 rounds.
That's all they need.
Hey, so you would up that number to every month training at least 500 rounds a year?
Of course they wouldn't.
Of course it wouldn't be because, ooh, guns.
Okay, hey, you want better common ground, right?
Better policing.
Should we start with better physical standards?
Right?
Should we undo the changes that we made so we could allow female officers who, by the way, have to go to their gun because it's their only tool.
And oh my God, they're horrible with guns because they only fire 50 rounds a year.
How about that?
How about we, so better, let's start with this.
Getting in to the police force, okay?
Let's increase, same thing for the military.
Let's at least go back to the standards we had, but let's make them even more stringent so we can have fit, fighting-ready police officers.
And let's train them better so that they can be more lethal when need be and be less lethal.
You cannot give someone power.
This is the biggest lie from the left, too.
You cannot empower someone by stripping them of any power they have in the first place.
It is so, it is so illogical and counterintuitive.
We're going to empower women.
How?
By getting them into the police force.
Equality, even though they have no business being there, it's going to be hell for them.
They will be ill-equipped and they're going to be going through non-rigorous, poor firearm training.
We're going to put them out in East St. Louis.
We've empowered them.
What?
How is that empowering?
It's like trying to tell a kid, hey, go stand up to a bully.
Great.
The kid doesn't know how to fight.
The kid has no tools.
Have you empowered him?
Have you empowered him?
And many moms have done this.
This is a very feminine mindset, right?
Where a kid will come to this guy bullied me.
And even if the mom, their heart isn't right, they're like, well, you go right up to him and you tell him that he better stop.
I mean, he's only doing that because, you know, he better stop or else.
How many kids have gotten that advice?
They go up and say, he better stop or else.
And the kid goes, or else what?
And beats your ass, right?
Because the mom didn't take into that equation, hey, you know what?
There still is the laws of the jungle.
There still is might makes right in that scenario.
And you cannot empower that son.
You cannot imbue him with any self-esteem or any confidence unless he can handle the shit if it goes down and defend himself or as an adult, his kin, because he knows how.
That power, now that kid can confidently say, hey, you better cut this out.
Yeah, or else what?
First off, the kid's probably going to sense the confidence on him and probably not want to pick on him anymore, probably pick an easier target.
Or he gets shoved down in a face full of dirt.
And guess what?
You've now neutralized a bully.
But the left keeps wanting to empower people by making them power less.
How are you empowering someone by getting them into the military in the name of equality, but the standards are lower?
So by the way, the person next to them is less capable and less fit and less able to defend their life as a comrade.
How do you empower women by getting them into the police force with poor training, by lowering standards and then putting them out in the real world?
Because you know what that crack dealer is?
You know what that blood member is?
He's the same bully who you better stop or else.
Yeah, or else what?
And it never ends well.
So I'm not going to go along with this premise from the left.
We need better policing.
Sure.
In theory, I agree.
We need more accountability.
Sure.
In theory, I agree.
But until I hear them say that means increased rigorous standards, increased training, more both violent and nonviolent options available, till they do that, it's all lip service.
And what they really want is no police.
Because at the end of the day, hey, let's go through the left's utopia.
We're empowering neighborhoods and communities, and we're empowering women by getting them to the police force.
Okay, if they had their way every single step of the, what would you have?
You'd have a female police officer show up to a domestic dispute, let's say with an angry crackhead who's much larger than her.
You'd have a woman show up who wasn't able to do any pull-ups or push-ups, who couldn't do the same kind of jog, who's more likely to experience bone fractures, be ragdolled, who only shoots 50 rounds, but has been trained in verbal de-escalation techniques that, oh my God, you may not realize don't work when someone's on PCP.
And now the police officer is being beaten and/or raped too.
But you've done everything the left did to empower communities and women.
Flip side.
The person who shows up at your door is someone, I'm talking about police, with extreme accountability, body cam, sure, rigorous training standards that, by the way, they have to meet every single year.
And at the very least, you know, is trained as well as anyone on that block with the firearm on a daily basis.
He has the ability to de-escalate.
He has the ability to bring in a counselor, but he also has the ability to choke, punch, and/or shoot you if you keep beating up on that helpless victim.
Now, we've just talked about empowering those people in the police, right?
But let me ask you this: which one of those scenarios empowers you more if you're in that house?
Who do you want to show up?
Who are we empowering?
I'm not going to lie about any common ground with the left because it's all based on a lie.
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