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Business was good.
You had all these liberal arts majors and gender studies MOOCs just signing their name, handing over their lives.
Meanwhile, an administrator's skimming off the top, nobody's the wiser.
Then you got these middle-aged nobodies paying off a loan for a degree they can't even wipe their ass with.
Nobody cares.
It was free money, and we were happy to take it.
So here's something else.
You'll see the left get really mad, for example.
Like, why are there any subsidies taking place for oil or energy companies?
And there shouldn't be, by the way, it's quite a bit more complicated than that.
But I also agree with the principal.
But they'll get mad about industry.
Okay, but why don't we apply the same to universities?
It's a business.
It's not a charity.
And they have tons of money.
The median university endowment in this country right now is $243 million.
The top five-ranked schools have a combined endowment of $184 billion.
Remember Harvard?
Where they were telling me, oh, the funding being pulled?
Give an endowment of $50 billion.
Find something in there, less than 0.5% to make up the slack.
Why do these institutions need any subsidies?
By the way, those numbers just keep growing.
Yeah.
Notre Dame had, I think at the time I was there, somebody can fact check me, like several billion, maybe two, three, four, five billion.
And we're like, holy cow, $20 billion endowment.
And yet, I get emails all the time asking for money.
Yeah.
What are they doing with that money?
I don't know exactly how endowment spending works or what they use it for, but these, it's kind of like they just have retained profits is essentially what it is.
And it never really goes anywhere.
They just earn interest on it and spend the money on whatever, but then, you know, constantly, like to buy tickets, I have to give a certain number of dollars every year just to get the ticket application.
Really?
Yes.
That's how it works.
Now, the number's very low right after graduation, like just a few hundred bucks, but then it goes up after that.
And once you get really old again, it goes down.
And I'm like, actually, that's you've got plenty of money at that point.
You're too old to go to a game.
And you can't blame universities.
They'll take the money on the table.
Some people go, you're a hypocrite.
COVID, these conservatives took business loans.
Do you ever, you ever wrote a seven-figure check to the government in taxes?
And then you see them shutting down businesses and giving money out to people who've run unsuccessful.
Of course you're going to take it.
It's like John Sassel talked about his house that was on the water being rebuilt like three or four times.
Now, of course, I shouldn't have built in a storm pathway, but I'll take the money.
Like, it's just why wouldn't you do it?
It's the government incentivizing this that is a problem.
Let me, I also want to sort of bring this back to that woman talking about being a professional whore.
It's what kind of a life do you want to live?
And by the way, that's not a small question because if collectively people answer in concert in a way that's unified, that's how you have a country.
Because that's what we have in this country.
It wasn't just freedom.
It was, all right, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and family, family, faith, and freedom.
I'm going to give you a personal solution, then a government solution here, because the last thing I'm going to be is just people who bitch.
Let me ask you this, because people say, hey, what do I want to do?
And that's how becoming a Vox writer.
What kind of a life do you, what do you, let me ask you this.
Do you think that anything you do professionally, any job, could be, you could be a bean counter, could be a writer, could be, do you think that any of it is going to matter to you more at the end of your life, be more fulfilling or meaningful than your family and relationships with people you love?
Now, Disney and the media will tell you it's all about family and evil businessman, right?
A Harry Chapin song.
But then society tells you, hey, the path to success is exactly the path that will preclude you from finding fulfillment in your life with a family, right?
No, no, the path to success, you have to go to university.
Don't just do undergrad, right?
You have to get your master's.
You have to spend the years that you would have spent throughout all of human history finding a mate and starting a family and charting a course and making a plan.
You have to forfeit all those years for glorified alcoholism and a degree that may or may not be of any use to anyone.
And you think these kids, like, I didn't know this was going to happen.
And I believe them when they say that, I can tell you this.
Every single person in a position of authority, if they went to public school, was telling them, well, you got to go to school, go to university, go to the best university you can, unless you want to be a garbage man.
By the way, small aside, I got that when I was a kid, like, unless you want to be a garbage man.
And when I was growing up, and the first time I, I said, wait, garbage men make what?
Yeah.
Like, oh, oh, they do better than the teacher who is shitting on them.
You can make an unbelievable living as a garbage man.
And by the way, the person who's a garbage man doesn't mean that he's any dumber than the person who got a gender studies degree.
No, you know, he's picking up the trash, going, okay, you can laugh all you want in your tiny little house.
Yeah, exactly.
He's going, hey, as long as there are human beings, there'll be trash to pick up.
Do you think any high school guidance counselors talk to kids go, okay, well, what is it that you're able to do?
What are your aptitudes?
Okay.
And if you don't know, it sounds like you haven't figured it out.
Go to a community college.
Work your way through it so that you don't incur any debt and then maybe look for some kind of a scholarship.
Plan your life.
No, they go, best school you can possibly go to.
Do you think any of them said, by the way, you got to be really mindful of those interest rates on those loans because those will kill you.
It's go to school, go to school, go to school, go to school, go to university, or people won't respect you and you won't.
It's a status symbol.
It's a paper version of the Lambo.
I got told by a school counselor that I shouldn't join the military.
Yeah, well, let me guess.
Join join the, well, go ahead, guess.
Let me guess this person was probably of the left persuasion, probably didn't, probably thought it was one of those things for grunts, for people who have no other options.
Yeah, I don't know about the left persuasion.
I was too young to really notice or care.
But yeah, it definitely was one of those things.
It's like, yeah, people in the military, they're all just a bunch of idiots who can't make it in the real world.
That's where you go.
Yeah.
That's kind of the attitude.
It's like, no, you got to make it, you got to make a real, a real go at it.
You're talented in baseball.
It's like, well, I'm not getting any scholarships.
Well, you could maybe try to walk on.
Like, it's really hard to do that, especially.
Your name's not Hernandez.
Well, no, I didn't have a major university in my town.
So it's like, well, I have to pay for board somewhere else.
I can go to junior college, maybe, where it's like, oh, you're talented in the marketing club.
Like, yeah, yeah, but I have a 2.8 GPA.
Right.
Like, I'm not a great student.
Like, this is what's good for me.
And never did they mention a vocational school.
Never did they mention a trade school.
Never did they mention anything like that.
Right.
Oh, you got to go to college.
You got to, you got to try to.
I'm like, I'm not going to be good at this, dude.
Right.
I'm not.
And I wouldn't have.
Stop encouraging.
And then I get to the military.
I get to the military.
I take the test and they're like, oh, wow, you qualified to be in the special operations unit.
And you're like, okay, what's that about?
Well, everybody here is a little smarter than the rest of the population.
Oh, a little bit smarter than the rest of the army.
No, no, no, no.
Everyone.
Yeah.
Like, oh, okay.
And then you start meeting people in special operations.
You go, oh, this is difficult, not only physical, but emotionally and mentally.
Yeah.
And my platoon leader, he went to an Ivy League college?
Yeah.
Wait, everyone here went to an Ivy League or a major college?
Yeah, no, those are what we refer to as people who had no other options in contrast to the nasal-pierced gender studies major.
Yes.
Some of the smartest people I ever met.
Oh, for a while.
They had a degree.
They were just infantrymen.
They were like, I want to fight for my country.
That's what they wanted to do.
One of the smartest people I ever met, he was an Anglican priest, I believe, or he was an elder.
I don't know what it was.
That's Episcopal.
People don't know.
And he was a computer repairman.
Not a coder, a computer repairman.
He was frighteningly smart.
As a teenager, he found a way, and he eventually got caught, which is why he got his life in the straight narrow.
He found a way to, every time he made a withdrawal from an ATM, basically steal, I think it was $200, like a ghost transaction that no one could trace.
I don't know what it was.
But straight out of Terminator 2.
He was so smart.
And he sold drugs and stuff when he was young.
And then he decided to turn his life over, became a Christian, and had a family.
But he was shockingly smart.
You would never know it just to meet him initially.
your mechanic could be the most brilliant person you know.
I'm sorry, that sheet of paper, it means nothing as far as actual intelligence.
And yeah, I've met a lot of incredibly intelligent people in the middle of the.
It's not only the intelligence, it's just that there's people of all backgrounds.
They would pass it off.
School counselors pass it off as, oh, that's just something for the dumbest of the dumb.
Right.
That's for the worst of us.
That's where you go.
Right.
When in reality, there were so many people that made great lives off that start.
Yep.
The life that I have now, I would not have had if I went to college.
I would have had a way worse life if I went to college.
I would have been stuck under student loans.
I would have had to get up because I wouldn't qualify for any scholarships.
I didn't have any special things about me.
You know, I like ladies and I'm a white guy and I only speak one language.
Yeah.
No.
And I can't do math.
And so, you know.
Retard alert.
Exactly.
Well, for someone like that in that situation.
So many people turned out great.
Think of a young Josh.
Think of a young Joe.
Think of a young you right now.
Here's how you can solve it and avoid these pitfalls.
Okay.
And by the way, if you're a parent, you need to coach your kids on this.
Here's a starting off point.
Not what do you want to do?
What do you think matters in life?
At the end of your life, what are you going to wish you spent your time on?
What's most meaningful?
What kind of a life do you want to live?
Okay, we wrote that.
Now, let's chart a course, the most effective path to achieve that.
Let me give you an example.
Wealthiest people I know, one made his money off of burger patty machines.
The other one made their money off of piping, underground piping, concrete, copper.
Layed a lot of pipe.
Yeah.
Big dude, too.
That's a scary thought.
He's like 6'8.
Don't you?
You think about that?
Does any kid go, I want to be in burger patty machines?
I want to be in pipes.
No.
What these people did is said, okay, there's a need and I can fill it.
And then I can have the kind of life that is meaningful to me.
I can spend more time with my family.
I can have financial freedom, financial independence.
Would you give all that up to study German poetry at Yale?
I'm making an extreme example, right?
I'm drawing an extreme example to make a point.
But these are decisions that the majority of young Americans, close to them, are making on a regular basis.
So the first question: ask yourself or ask your son or daughter, what kind of a life do you want to live?
What matters to you?
Huge part of that is: do you want to have a family?
Guess what?
That changes everything because getting a master's or a PhD in anything other than a science or medical degree is entirely useless.
And you have, in many cases, foregone the years that you need to plan for that.
So plan your life around that.
Does it involve college?
If so, why are you going?
What are you seeking to accomplish?
Okay.
Are there more effective, more cost-effective alternatives?
Vocational school, apprenticeships.
Finally, do your math.
You can see that many of these kids did not ever do the math with an interest rate.
It doesn't come up.
We're not taught that.
We're taught that you should go to university and study economics, but you haven't been taught interest rates before you go to university to study economics before.
Oh, and now you're handcuffed.
This is the credit card problem.
Something started playing in the studio.
This is a credit card problem, right?
If you make the minimum payments, basically, it takes however many years.
They changed that to where credit card companies had to show that to you.
And that's why these loan things, this is the same exact thing.
I don't know why people are shocked by this.
Yes, if you pay the minimum payment on a loan like this over 10 years, yes, you're going to pay a lot of money in interest.
And in this case, with 14 or 15% interest, that's crazy.
By the way, it's about 6% or 7% if you get the loan through the federal government and it's got the backing.
If you get it outside, it can be much higher because shocker, you're not likely to repay the loan.
They have to make more money off of it.
That's basic stuff, though, that we're not teaching our kids in high school.
That should be one of the first things that they figure out when they're filling out applications for colleges.
It's like, have you taken a class that shows you how much debt you will have and how much you will need to make to pay it off?
And also, by the way, just pay a few hundred extra bucks a year towards principal if you can, and it'll knock it down a ton.
Yep.
Hey, wait tables.
Yep.
Whatever you got to do.
This brings us to, you know, you can hit the ding And put a number here.
That's your personal solution.
Now, as far as policy solutions, because there's a systemic problem, and I agree, here's what we do.
Number one, the government stops subsidizing any and all higher education in the form of grants, scholarships that are unneeded with the endowments.
And they should only even look at any type of, let's say, financial break for degrees that we actually need and are practical.
Taxpayers shouldn't guarantee loans for useless degrees.
There should never be a taxpayer on the hook for a gender studies degree, for a liberal arts degree, for a creative history degree.
A degree in stand-up comedy, which you can get in California?
Hold on.
Creative history?
That's a degree?
I don't know.
I'm just mad.
I was up at that point.
But see, I don't know.
There's actually like basket weaving as a degree.
There's Afrocentric lesbian studies as a degree, depending on the school.
University profit should be tied to student success.
That's what we need to do.
And we need to stop any and all.
When I say subsidies, I want to clarify.
Any and all Department of Education guaranteed backed loans.
Okay?
That needs to give them back to the banks.
Private loans so that it's treated like any other business or personal loan.
All I'm advocating is that the most significant decision that is being made at this point in your life needs to be, it needs to be made with some wisdom.
Right now, you sit in a room where you just fill it out online and go, all right, I need $80,000 for this school.
Great.
Done.
There's no, oh, well, what is the school?
Well, what do you plan to do?
How do you plan to make that money back?
How will you repay this loan?
You know, the questions that you have with any other loan, banks would treat this like any other business investment.
You just want to privatize it?
Well, it's been in the hands of the government.
How's that working out for you?
How is it working out with the kind of inflation that we have seen?
In what world does someone getting a blank check at a point in their life when they have no idea how to use it?
Where else does that occur?
How does it end well?
Yeah.
How did you do in high school?
We need more people that apply for student loans to hear the word no.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
We just do.
We need fewer colleges because there's so many meaningless colleges out there with degrees that don't really help any people.
I'm not saying we need fewer educated people because it's very important to have an educated workforce in it, right?
But there are a lot of ways to get that.
We need a lot more parents involved in saying, hey, if I want my kids to go to college, I have three young boys.
I'm thinking down the road, okay, I'm going to set up these savings accounts so I can start putting money into it.
And if they don't use it for college, they can use it for trade schools.
They can use it for vocational training.
There's a lot of other things they can use it for.
Great.
Jet skis.
We have a process set up.
Where are the parents in these conversations?
Encouraging their kids to make wise financial decisions to ensure that they don't end up in debt.
CNN, weird faces.
It looks like the legless.
Come on, go back to it.
CNN, you know you want to.
Oh, my God.
The legless lizard.
It's not a snake, not to be confused.
The legless lizard.
I saw it at the aquarium recently.
He should stay out of India.
That was a monitor lizard.
Or he should go to India.
Well, I don't know.
Eat, pray, love, scream?
No, you're right in the alternative.
Yeah.
The alternative is, well, what's the left proposing?
I'll say this too.
I also think that the government could maybe forgive the interest, not the loans, but forgive the interest if, for example, loans have been paid back in these, there's already been some kind of a profit.
Because I also believe that these kids have been thrust into, unfortunately, a system they didn't fully understand because the government wanted to, right?
We all want to make that money and the universities were all too acquiescent, and so are the lobbyists.
So you can maybe forgive some of the interest on the debt.
Okay.
You cannot forgive student loans.
Let me tell you why.
This is what the left wants.
What the left wants in student loan forgiveness would be one of the greatest wealth transfers in human history from taxpayers to already privileged upper middle class Americans.
Over 60% of student loan debt is held by people in the top 40% of earners.
What?
Yeah.
That is insane.
Top 40% of earners.
So with that.
I just felt so much.
I felt, I don't even know how to say it.
I just lost all sympathy.
So someone leaving after doing a few tours, someone working in construction, someone who's struggling starting up a business, maybe shut down during COVID, they're paying for a wealthy suburban kids useless liberal arts degree.
That's the end result.
And it's wrong.
That's why I serve my country.
And you know what else?
Let's go back to families.
What kind of a life do we want?
What kind of a relationship do you want?
We talked about that one.
Hey, do you want the American dream?
People get so caught up, you know, oh, they had pensions.
By the way, boomers have a blind spot here.
It's completely achievable, by the way.
Kids, younger people, you could reduce your spending.
You obviously could be more responsible.
On the economic side, yep, I understand that that's feasible.
What is different is boomers didn't have the same competitive working environment in that if you did your time, even if you were mediocre, you were loyal to the company, you got a pension, that's just not a thing anymore.
So I think if you dropped a lot of people from that generation into today's work environment, they wouldn't fare that well because it is more performance-based.
In other words, they'd be like, well, wait a second, why are you letting me been here for 20 years?
You're letting me go.
I'm only a few years.
They go, I don't give a shit.
Bring in someone from Bangladesh or I'll bring in the next kid who will work for less money.
So that's a legitimate gripe to have.
But the more important facet that we miss when people say, well, the dream is out of reach.
You have to understand, not only do they live in a smaller house, not only do they only get maybe one week of vacation, not only did they never eat out all of that.
Not only do they have to commute into the city, maybe an hour each day, which you could do.
These are just financial decisions that you could make where you could sort of close that gap.
But they started a family in their early 20s.
They started earlier on what really mattered.
So if you say what's out of reach, you know, for my grandparents, that won't come back.
You don't realize.
Well, they also had different priorities and different values.
So you do have to decide if that, and I mean this, ask yourself.
And anyone out there, please comment, help young people out.
Especially, let's say right now you're a millionaire, you're very successful, but you have a family.
Would you give up all of it tomorrow for an extra year with your kids?
The answer is almost always yes.
So why are we framing everything around the dream of the degree and the respect of the Ivy League education?
Everyone is chasing the wrong things.
And the government, by the way, certainly the Democrat Party has a vested interest because they told you they want the destruction of the nuclear family.
You have strong nuclear families and financial independence.
Guess what?
You have a less powerful government over its people.
You have an enslaved people who are isolated without a husband, without a wife.
God says if he finds one, finds what is good without children.
Guess what?
You have people who are easily manipulated because you're the one in control of the purse string.
So personally, do the math, figure out what kind of a lifestyle you want to live, chart a course, and do what is most effective in achieving that.
And be sure that you are very mindful of the math.
Make sure you teach your children as a policy.
Get the government out of the student loan business and it needs to be treated like any other business or personal loan.
And the answer to the greatest wealth transfer that could take place towards upper middle class Americans from working taxpayers in history, that's the proposed solution by the left, needs to be an emphatic no.
Let's get back to what matters: families, faith, freedom, and being independent.
Let's get back to the things that actually, you know, make life life.
And that's not a master's degree and it's not a few extra bucks an hour.
Yeah.
It's not the consumerism that comes with it either.
I mean, that's that whole focusing on family for the younger generations, they are sorry, the older generations right now when they had kids younger, they were happier.
Yeah.
They had what would ultimately bring them happiness.
They focused on family and they focused on faith.
Those two things.
Those are the things right now that are probably the most under attack in this country.
Because it's very easy when you take those things away from people and you say, hey, don't look for happiness there.
Look for happiness in your career.
Look for happiness in all the other things that we can show you in life.
It's very easy to sell them things to try to fill the gap.
Right.
Because they're looking for something to make them happy, looking for something to make them feel alive and not depressed and not nihilistic or whatever else, connected to society.
And nothing can do it like faith and family.
Ever.
Nothing can replace those things.
I see that young girl crying.
And is it funny?
Is she entitled?
Sure.
And I get it.
But I'm also going, man, what you're really saying is, I don't know.
I did everything right.
And I went to school and I took out a huge load and I went to university and I had that experience because I wanted to go.
I wanted to spread my wings and fly and get away from my family.
And four or six years later, glorified alcoholism.
And I cycled through guys and now I'm single.
I have no family.
I have no kids.
I'm in debt.
And I just, I don't know how I got here, and I'm so unhappy.
You bought every single lie that was sold to you.
Yes, and you're not going to see those videos of people going, I don't know what happened.
I got an apprenticeship, and I make a good six-figure income as an electrician and a plumber, and I come home, and my kids are doing really well.
And we homeschool them, and we've decided to tighten our belts, and we get to spend as much time together as humanly possible.
And they're the love of my life, and dear God, their time is just the most precious thing on.
I just don't know how I got here.
One has no idea how they got there.
Yeah, one knows exactly how they got there because they did it with purpose.
Let's stop degree Lambo income.
Who gives a shit?
You're not going to care about any of this on your deathbed.
I wish I got my masters.
I could change one thing and be HD.
That reminds me of that Nathan Fielder show that you recommended.
Yeah.
It was like that first episode.
What was the second one?
It was, it's not Nathan for you, it's the other one.
Oh, the rehearsal.
The rehearsal, yeah.
That first episode.
It's this.
I feel bad because I think they're exploiting him.
I think he's like an autistic guy.
But this guy, he's like, he's troubled because he's living with the burden of a lie that he told his friends and teammates at Trivia that he has a master's degree because they all had master's degrees.
Yeah.
And he'd have one.
And it like haunted, it was haunting him for years.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I feel so bad for this guy.
He seems happy.
He loves his job.
He loves trivia.
He loves his friends.
But he's got this like shadow lurking over him.
Yeah.
That he's lied about his master's degree.
Yeah.
It's also going to be less relevant, by the way, to these degrees because, again, it's so competitive that employers can't make the employment anything other than performance-based.
So I'm just telling you, it's like, oh, a degree from Ivy League.
Wait a second.
You're better.
I don't care what your degree is.
I'm telling you, outside of certain fields where you do in our STEM fields, and I understand there does need to be some formal training, it's less relevant.
As information becomes more available, the degree is less relevant.
As a matter of fact, I seldom find someone who's most educated on a given topic who got a degree in that field.
It's usually someone who's a hobbyist, whether it's history, whether it's it could be firearms, whether it's engineering.
Like you will meet.
Is there a degree for that?
For firearms?
Well, there is like becoming, well, becoming an armorer, becoming a gunsmith, or certificates.
I mean, maybe, okay, maybe it was a poor example.
My point is, I was honest, they're like, I love guns, and they can do everything.
They know everything about them.
Or I love cars and they can build a car from nothing.
It's like MacGyver.
It's like, you just had a toothpick and a straw and a piece of thread.
And you have a trans am.
How'd this happen?
Like, I read a book.
I knew snipers that could do math better than most people with a four-year degree.
Well, they had to to kill people.
They had to do math every day.
Maybe somebody needs some killing.
They knew physics, they knew math.
Yep.
Killed them all.
All right.
Sorry, I've been going, but where's your next Portland, Oregon, August 22nd to 23rd?
Yeah.
At Helium Comedy Club.
And I'm in Austin in September.
I got dates on my calendar.
JayFirestine.com.
Balls in.
Austin.
Portland, huh?
Jfirestein.com.
All right.
It's Chat Thursday.
Chat.
Oh, this is breaking right now.
Do we have the flashback to Tom Holman?
Actually, I know we were talking about that earlier.
We talked about the census guys, the stuff that was on CNN right now.
Trump Holders' new census that leaves out undone.
Well, and then CNN starts to have a hard time.
Oh, no.
They've done this.
The signs aliens are here.
Yeah, they're signaling.
Get your water.
It'll cycle out in about three days.
It's fine, guys.
I've already done the math.
The worst part about that movie.
Oh, the twist is that what takes them out is what the planet is 70% of.
They couldn't see that from space.
There was all this green that we were looking at.
We got focused on that.
They're coming in their saucer, like, wait, what is that blue?
Oh, is it?
Oh, shit.
Like, what did you talk bacteria?
They could communicate via telekinesis.
Right.
Yeah.
And they couldn't tell that H2O.
Yeah.
That's just because it was on the planet.
And even if they couldn't, the first one to step out into rain should have alerted the rest of the world.
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
Not to mention some of the locations that we're in.
Like there was one that was like a Brazil birthday party.
They're in the fields of like Iowa or something.
Like the humidity didn't do anything.
Yeah, I know.
Nothing.
The sprinkler system?
Nothing got out of you?
It's like, come on, you have a cloak spaceship.
Do you know how to turn on a faucet?
You can figure this out.
The one's twisting his leg into the cornfields.
Like, there's no dew.
Yeah.
There's no.
It wasn't watered recently.
There's no sprinkler system.
Nothing?
Not at all.
It's the only farm without any type of irrigation.
All right, so they're complaining about this on CNN.
And again, we're saying the same thing.
They're going, Trump orders new census leaves out undocumented.
We're going, hey, Trump orders new census.
We've got undocumented.
Going back to the Constitution, and this has been an argument for a very long time.
Like, how do you count people that are here that are not technically citizens?
And this can be people who are here illegally or people on visas or other things.
I don't think that the founders had a chip in their brain for you're going to have how many people here illegally, and that's fine with you?
Right.
I don't think they thought that at all because it doesn't make any sense to have, okay, well, we have 20 million people here now.
10 million live in California, so we're going to count them.
And now California gets more.
I'm not sure the founders really understood the legal, illegal immigration conundrum.
That's kind of a bit of my point.
No, they wouldn't have thought of it as a thing.
Well, they would have like, wait, wait, someone is here who doesn't want to be American.
Why are they here?
That's right.
Send them out.
Like, no, no, they want to be here.
They want to make money.
Ah, how?
And what do they pay in Texas?
Nothing.
What work?
I don't know.
They do jobs.
They take them from Americans.
Huh?
And you're counting them amongst you?
It's just the census.
Like, how do we, how do we figure out, how do we count people who are illegal aliens?
You don't.
Yeah.
You don't.
You don't.
Why should you count those people when you're doing a census, which, by the way, determines seats, determines districts in a lot of ways, right?
Determines the political sway of a state when they shouldn't legally even have the ability to vote.
Oh, that's right.
No voter ID.
Yeah, there's some pretty interesting arguments that'll be made on this.
And I don't think anybody who's saying we should be counting illegal immigrants is going to have much of a leg to stand on.
They're going to try.
They're really going to try because they're going to say, well, it says to count the whole number of free persons.
Are those persons free?
For now.
Yeah.
Until Holman gets after them.
Well, that's what we talked about.
I don't know if we can pull that clip where Holman said the whole thing was about the census rule.
That was a big thing with the illegal immigration was bring in as many as humanly possible and count them in the census so that you could basically change district and electoral maps forever.
That's why sanctuary cities are putting up lights and signs that say, come here.
Yeah.
Come here.
Come to California.
Come to New York.
Come to Washington.
To Chicago.
I expect the left to fight very vehemently here because this was a big part of their plan.
Yes.
To secure life.
I hope they do, and I hope it's very clear what's going on.
Yeah.
Like the gerrymandering thing can go both ways in people's minds.
I mean, I understand.
Listen, do it based on results that make sense.
Can I find your redistricting based on results of the presidential election?
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
Like, I may not agree, but I can't argue as easily with that.
But if you just force them into an argument of counting illegals versus not, there's not a lot of woo-woo.
I think that you're right on a big part, but there are a lot of people who believe that illegal immigrants should have the right to vote.
Yeah.
That's the part we miss them as we're like, oh, yeah, oh, this is going to be-you're going to look like an idiot.
You're going to look like a fool, but then they come in.
They're like, yeah, yeah, no, they should be able to vote.
The Democratic Party believes that.
They should.
They should be able to vote.
They should be able to have a say in what happens.
They live here, too.
I don't think their constituents actually agree with them in the numbers they think.
No.
No, the constituents.
Especially when you're talking about a few people.
Not as many, but a lot.
Like city council or something like that.
Maybe you could sway them a little bit.
Like, all right, maybe they're here, whatever, fine.
But on a national level, are you serious?
Doesn't make any sense at all.
No, no, I mean, but the Democratic Party does.
You know who doesn't agree with them?
Hispanic voters.
Ah, screwed your whole plan right there.
I love that video, by the way.
Yeah, of ICE we saw earlier, that montage.
Which one?
Did we not see a South Park one?
Oh, the South Park one where they raided heaven?
No, the real one?
I thought the one.
We didn't run it because we were going over time about how Ice Rangers were.
Oh, we ran out of time.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
There was a, we had a video, a clip of ice guys hopping out of the back of a U-Haul truck or something at a Home Depot.
And if you look at them, you're like, Mexican ice agent.
Yeah.
Mexican ice agent.
Yeah.
Mexican ice agent.
White, black, Mexican ice agent.
Right.
They're going after Guatemalans.
Yeah.
They really are.
Well, it's just like the Proud Boys were a white supremacist group with one of the founders being Enrique Tario.
So they're very shitty at being white supremacists.
They are.
By the way, we have the home enclosure.
Okay, let's roll the Holman clip because it's about 20 seconds or so.
Okay, and then we'll take your chats.
Saw some political benefit opening border-up.
There's a couple of things I saw.
Number one, what did Joe Biden do in addition to writing over 90 executive orders, abolishing everything we did under the Trump administration that gave us more secure border?
You'll return the Trump census rule, which means millions of illegal animals are released in sanctuary cities.
We count the next census.
What does that mean?
It means more seats in the house for the Dems.
They sold this country off for future political power.
Plus, they think they're going to be future Democratic voters.
Let me.
There you go.
There you go.
I know, and that's going to be one of these single biggest changes, and it really is destructive to the Democrat Party's plans.
It's not a conspiracy.
They've told you that that's what they are going to do.
Let's grab some chats.
And I think, Tim Toulmin, I don't know if you still have if we have ingested that ice montage.
We could run it on the way out because it's fun.
Sure, I'll grab it.
All right.
Okay.
Noodles, chat.
All right.
First chat from Man of Steel24.
I thought that was weird.
Anyways, question.
Do you think Trump can do anything about all of the offshore outsourcing of call center style work?
I work in IT and my company has started all backfilling overseas.
Just started.
They're a little late to the game.
Yeah.
It might have just gotten big.
I mean, there are levers that he can pull.
I don't know that that's the first priority because I don't necessarily know how many people are employed in these call centers.
I mean, it's a lot, but compared to jobs that are being lost in the United States, I think really what they want to bring here is more so the ability for us to be independent.
So things like manufacturing, right?
Things that we actually need and are reliant on.
So I don't think that'll be high up on his list of priorities.
That's a fair point.
Yeah.
As far as what strategic would you get to start with first.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
It should, but I would think that would be significantly further down the list.
And he could do the same thing that he's done with other tariffs and incentives and sanctions.
I just think that right now it's a focus on manufacturing and reducing our dependence on nations that either hate us or do business with people who hate us.
By the way, it was so funny to see Modi and the Indians on X. They're like, Modi will stand strong.
We will not be told that we cannot do business with Russia.
It's like, okay, go screw yourself.
Oh, no, is that poop in the street?
Yeah.
Yes, of course it is.
Every time we ask, is it poop, the answer is yes.
Oh, San Francisco.
Oh.
Oh, I wanted to show there was a chart that shows, look, your president is weak.
Look at approval.
And it showed Modi with like 70 something percent.
And then it showed Malay, like if, and Donald Trump at 52%.
But they cut out Bukay because it was like 98%.
Oh, geez.
It's like, yeah, neither of these are real, just to be clear.
You don't have a 96%.
So their charts from India just, it didn't have Bukay on the list who's the highest approval of any world leader.
And by the way, very liked, but of course they can tweak those numbers.
And of course in India, they can tweak those numbers.
Also, that doesn't mean that your leader's any good.
You're still going to get hit with the terrorists when you do business with Russia.
Yeah.
And by the way, Trump also knows, like, you don't really want to fight to bring an industry back that's about to go away anyway.
Like, the call center stuff is going to go away largely due to AI because most people are going to want to deal with AI better than somebody who doesn't know crap about what they're talking about.
And there's going to be some need for backup on that.
But you can, these AI chat, not just chat bots, but AI voice.
Like, I can have a better conversation with Grok than I can with somebody in India answering my tech questions.
Well, that's because you have to work on your people skills.
Yes, Josh.
How do they, how do they get an accurate approval rating in a third world nation?
Good question.
They don't.
When not everyone has access to I mean, I can't imagine they have a postal service.
They do.
Like the U.S. that backwards in El Salvador?
What are you talking about?
Many had a lot of people.
They have overnight mail.
They have priority mail.
Everyone has internet in India?
You're saying 1.5 billion people?
Yeah, many, and I think it's a third of them poop in the streets.
Yes.
Yeah.
No, no, that's the whole thing.
But they just hold it up.
It's like it's a small sense of the money.
After you're done not whipping, you're us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like, do you approve of Modi?
Right.
I mean, you'd be surprised.
Check yes or no with your poop finger in the books.
In 2008, I was on the border of Cambodia and Vietnam in a village that had never heard about Jesus before.
And we were showing the Jesus film in their language.
And I kid you not, we had to bring our own generator, our own projector, everything.
It was one of the most isolated places that you can kind of think of in those environments.
And they had cell phones.
High approval rating in the region.
By this.
They had cell phones.
I was like, how do they have?
Well, cell phones aren't that crazy.
Smartphones is where he gets a little bit crazy, I think.
No, but this was in 2008.
So the smartphone wasn't ubiquitous then.
It was like, I can't believe I even see five cell phones.
It wasn't like every villager, don't get me wrong.
It was only a handful out here, but I'm like, how?
Where?
Where are the towers?
So they had Motorola razors before they had actual razors.
Pretty.
Well, no, they needed the razors for suicide.
It's a pretty bleak existence.
But nonetheless, they had razors.
Also, shit, just they spare no country with marketing.
That's true.
I'm your Venus.
I'm your fire.
Well, it's got at least three throats.
Your desire is the same as the menu razor.
You could use on your face.
Yeah.
Let's grab another chat.
What is desire?
Next chat from Mixam12.
Question for the crew.
I believe teachers should go to a two-year teaching program instead of a four-year college.
What are your thoughts?
Signed an elementary school teacher.
Sure, why not?
One of the.
No, I mean, a girl I dated for a long time, high school and college.
Her mom was a teacher.
She was a second-grade teacher, and she just sort of fell into it.
Her degree, I believe it was in English, or maybe it was history or something, and she didn't really know what she was going to do.
And she filled in and she did a really good job and she became a second-grade teacher.
And by the way, those kids all loved her.
They all did really well.
This idea that you need a four-year degree to teach seven-year-olds, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, it depends on what you're teaching.
It depends on what you're teaching.
But I think it's accurate.
Really, I just want to know if you can do the job.
You're not going to abuse the children.
Can we just make sure that we screen for that and make sure that they can do the job?
What about what they try?
What if they start treating some of these careers that have a path through a higher education system more like a career that has like a trade program where you have an apprenticeship?
Why can't you do that?
Why can't you do two years?
Maybe you do two years of some of your prerequisites.
We don't probably need all these prerequisites, but you do some prerequisites.
You do some classes about teaching and learning.
And then while you're on the job, you get on-the-job training.
Teachers aid or something.
That's the thing I did as an apprentice, as a carpenter.
I got a job immediately in the apprenticeship.
I was an apprentice immediately.
I was on a construction site in Seattle.
I was putting up, I was putting up panels.
I got lucky, got a finished job, but I was putting up panels.
I was cutting wood.
I was doing all kinds of stuff, carrying lumber.
I was on the job.
And then, you know, once a month or once every two months, I had to go for a week to a class.
Yeah.
And they found other apprentices that cover down, carry their lumber for them and stuff.
But I had to go to a class and I would learn, you know, hey, this is how you make sawhorses.
Yeah.
You do that.
And here's how you use this tool.
And here's how you do this and that.
Why can't teachers do that?
There's a lot of other careers, I think, that could benefit from on-the-job training.
Get these people in the field, get them working, get them making money.
And then during the summer, when they have that time off, boom, get into a program, learn another skill.
Well, by the way, you see it everywhere else that teaching or coaching exists aside from public school.
I mean, you can look at Catholic schools in New York City.
Nuns who did, many of whom did not have teaching degrees.
They had much larger class sizes.
That's another reason.
Yes.
Yeah, and the kids did a lot better.
They did a lot better.
They would be in an average class size of 38 as opposed to like 25 or whatever it was.
Teachers didn't have degrees.
They were nuns.
And guess what?
The kids fared better.
You can look at sports, right?
You can look at coaches.
A lot of them don't necessarily have degrees.
Some of them didn't play and they're better coaches.
I can give you an example in the only sport that I'm super familiar with.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a great example.
The guy, John Danaher, who is well known.
He's been on Joe Rogan's show.
He's like a mad scientist of jiu-jitsu.
He had messed up knees, so he couldn't really compete.
He sat under Henzo Gracie and he coached athlete, like champion after champion after champion because he, in having some physical limitations, decided to break it down.
And he was able to create a system and he just coached world-class athlete after world-class athlete because it was results-based.
There's no formal training.
He was just there and people said, this is the guy I want to learn from.
You have people with multiple world championships learning under a guy who has no notable achievements.
He's just a great coach.
So you see it everywhere else outside of public school.
You see it in private schools.
You see it in, obviously you would see it in homeschooling because you would just see the results on the tests when these kids end up going to college.
Public school, it's the only place where it's not performance-based.
It's just, hey, you know what?
You got this degree.
And it didn't used to be that way.
He didn't used to have a degree specifically in teaching for at least a lot of context.
So, yep, I agree with you.
I would argue too that you could have the union get more involved.
That union's got they got money.
Yeah, but they don't want to get involved if it means better teachers.
Well, I honestly think they want to protect all teachers.
They don't want to.
I would say if there's an on-the-job training program, that's how with apprenticeship as a carpenter or an electrician works, is that the union helps you do your job, you pay your union dues, and then part of your dues go to your training.
Yeah, yeah, but that's not how it works for teachers or many other unions.
It's not how it works.
You pay for your own education, and then once you've paid everything and you're in debt, and now you're going to look at 30,000 turning into 100,000, now you can get the benefit of our union.
Yeah, and the union, the money goes to rubber rooms where they keep shitty teachers employed who shouldn't be anywhere near a child, but they just go sit in a room all day so they can make sure that they collect their check.
Yes, Gerald, in another chat.
I was just going to say, like, if this problem, yes, we need to have better teachers, but that's like 20% of the problem.
Parents are the problem.
Parents are the biggest problem in this equation by far.
It's not even close.
Kill the parents.
Be very involved in your kids' education.
That's why when you said homeschooling, it's not that they're bright.
It's not that they're like us a mad scientist.
It's that they care about their kids' education and they're fully invested in it day after day.
When you farm it out, you don't know what you're going to get, and that is never going to be enough.
It's never going to be enough.
Care about your kids' education, get involved.
Let me ask you this: if you're married, right, you have kids.
I'm assuming that you're in a relatively healthy family unit where you want to raise your kids a certain way.
You share the same values.
Let me ask you this.
How often do you talk about your values with your babysitter?
How often do you talk about your life's vision in the future of your children with their school teacher?
How often do you talk about economic policy?
How often do you talk about the value of life?
How often do you talk about relationship dynamics?
How often do you talk with your kid's teacher about moral virtues?
Now, add that up, and in many cases, they have three, four, five, six teachers in a day.
Yeah.
And your kids spending their entire day with them, nine, ten months out of the year.
If it's important to you, why would you farm that out?
Why wouldn't you base your life around being as involved and having as much control over that as possible?
We do it the exact opposite of the right way in this country right now.
Next chat.
All right, next chat from DJ Deep Throat.
Question for Stephen: Do you think South Park would ever make a parody of you?
If so, what would you think of it?
Cool.
It'd be fun.
We'd probably laugh and probably think it was hilarious and then later go, that one stung me.
They couldn't.
Stephen, you don't really say a lot of things that are too controversial.
Yeah, that are super controversial.
No, I'm saying you don't.
Change my mind.
You don't get caught a lot being wrong.
They can get you for saying a word that they don't like.
They can give you have an opinion that they don't like or disagree with.
But the problem is that it's hard for them to.
Well, I'm going to use somebody's phrase that it's hard for them to prove you wrong.
Yeah.
No, it's easy for the left to put together a highlight reel like Vox going, look at these naughty things he said.
I would think it's a little harder for South Park to go like, isn't this guy out of touch with no sense of an old cornball?
Like, you know, it's easier to do with a lot of other companies.
It's easier to do with Gnome.
And I would argue that.
There are easier targets, is what I'm saying.
Yeah, there are easier targets.
Do they go after comedians at all?
I mean, I feel like it would be harder to go after comedians.
They might have gone after like Amy.
Yeah, Amy Schumer, I think.
She's a comedian?
That was clear in my definition.
She's more successful at a comedian than I am.
I mean, there's a reason that they chose Charlie Kirk as opposed to, you know, like, change my mind.
Like, what are you going to parody with Change My Mind?
An unedited long-form interview where most of them are productive discussions and people actually listen.
It's also, you don't do Change My Mind as often anymore.
I stopped doing it because everyone else kind of ripped it off and made it shift.
Well, that was part of the thing there where he's like, you took my king.
Yeah.
That was my thing.
And they weren't talking about you, but I have an idea who the other guy was supposed to be.
But yeah, if they do, hey, great.
And if it's funny, that's fine.
Someone did.
That's what we're doing.
I don't know because he's out there doing it.
He's out there doing it.
He's posting new videos of Prove Me Wrong or whatever is whatever his title is, like daily or a few times a week.
Yeah.
So he's, I don't know.
And it's very, Prove me wrong is a very different dynamic than change my mind.
Prove me wrong is, let's argue.
I'm going to roast you.
I'm going to own you.
Change my mind is, well, why do you think that?
It's a difference in debate.
You'll push that down with them rather than, you know, it's a different thing.
It's rhetoric versus debate.
Change my mind is rhetoric.
It's not debate.
Now, sometimes it turns into that if you have people who come in and try and hit you with a gotcha.
Yeah.
But you're not doing the, what's the thing with the flags?
I don't know.
Oh, the 20 debaters or whatever.
Yeah.
It's like, I'm not gay.
20 people debate me.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Whatever.
And then we're done.
Well, they basically just turned it.
The Jubilee, the Jubilee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's still, it just kind of takes.
No one else was just sitting down at a table and like anyone who wants to come up and talk.
Right.
So it is the same.
That was very novel at that point.
And then a lot of people started doing it, but it wasn't like, so we just didn't put up a number.
But, you know, I'll sit down in a day with a change my mind.
And sometimes you'll get, sometimes you get four, five, sometimes you get 10, you get 12.
And we've pretty much uploaded all of them.
I think, like I said, the exception of a couple people who were literally just there to promote a product or something where like, oh, okay.
Or someone would come in like in a funny hat and be like, I'm Johnny Appleteed.
I like men's butts.
You're like, okay, there's nothing really productive here.
The other guy said he was Jesus Christ in Washington.
Oh, that's right.
Bruce Christ.
Bruce Christ.
Eat my butt, said Jesus Christ.
Yes, you never knew.
I think the most offensive thing that they could possibly do, South Park, if they ever did anything with you, is make it not funny.
I think we'd all look at him and be like, son of a gun.
Yeah.
Come on.
You guys are better than this.
Yeah.
Well, if they, if they, comedic value alone.
If they tried to target and be like, ah, this show sucks and isn't funny.
It's like, oh, okay.
All right.
No, no, no.
I don't think, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if they tried and put all their efforts into it and it somehow came out unfunny, the jokes just didn't land, we'd be like, you guys are better than this.
We can make fun of ourselves better than this.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm sure there's plenty to target.
But typically, you look at the hit pieces, it became like personal stuff.
Like, oh, he's gay, or oh, an employee saw his balls when he was doing it.
I was like, making work for the New York Post.
Okay, cool.
Fine, whatever.
I mean, today, I don't know how many people saw me in my boxers getting dressed as the Lord.
So it's like, there's nothing new here.
I stayed far away.
That's just in case.
Well, there were others because we have the cameras and we give them all a feed.
All right.
Anyway, next chat.
By request.
All right.
Next chat from Skymara.
Question for Steven.
What's the story behind the strange animal theme song?
I don't want to tell it.
Okay, great.
No, no.
I just, it was really, it's.
It's an obscure song.
Well, no, that's not why.
It's because I don't want to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Just next question.
I love this song.
We love this song.
I love this song.
It's a personal story.
It's heartfelt, but we don't need to share it.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
From the David Factor.
Question for anyone?
John Kiriaku mentioned on Tucker that USAID funds the CIA.
Could Trump be specifically taking on the deep state slash intelligence community by defunding USAID?
70 chess.
Yes.
Hold on, hold on.
I feel like this question's from like four months ago.
We were all talking about that.
We're like, were there different agencies being funded by this?
Were the Democrat priorities being funded by this?
The NGOs?
And like all of that stuff was kind of wrapped up in it.
This isn't like a new revelation, right?
I don't know if there was a specific connection to the CIA.
Somebody mentioned that.
I think it's one of those things where it's like a, hey, hey, that's a nice bonus.
Yeah.
I mean, these people all get on the same side.
Same too?
Okay.
Yeah.
They're all going to the same spots.
The head of USAID is going to old Ebbisgrill to have some crab cakes with whoever's running the CIA cross-dressing.
Dressing good crabcakes.
Yeah.
I got very sick one time.
But yeah, so I think Donald Trump wants to go after the deep state period, or at least he did.
He really hasn't.
That's where he's underperformed to a significant degree.
At least visually.
Like, you don't see it.
Hopefully he's working behind the scenes.
We'll see.
But the more you can defund and disband, the better, right?
That's what needs to happen right now.
All the left does is destroy and deconstruct, and they don't do it where appropriate.
They build up these awful, awful titans like USAID and like our intelligence communities and like the Department of Education.
So we need to actually make those significantly smaller and the IRS.
And I'm sure that all of them affect the other, but I don't know that there's a direct connection or that Donald Trump is directly defunding the CIA by going through USAID.
I would imagine a more effective way would be to trim bloat directly at the CIA like he has done with the IRS, things like that.
Next chat.
All right.
Next chat from McClendon 814.
Question for the crew.
As Christians, we are taught, or we are taught to give.
How as a Christian do you learn to receive when you are the one in need and or are afraid to ask for help?
Hmm.
Would you be ashamed to collect Social Security once you've reached the age?
Would you be ashamed to collect your retirement?
Is it different?
You're not paying into it.
You're paying into it.
If you're not giving ever, then maybe, yeah, maybe you're right to feel guilty a little bit.
And I'm not the voice of Christianity here, but.
No, no.
That's just the way I see it is if you are a charitable person and you give to people in need when they need it and you're always there to help somebody else.
And a time comes where you need the help, I don't think, I think you should feel just as shameful as you would with Social Security.
It's the same thing.
Your time came and you know what?
People want to help you.
And take it.
It is humbling, but I also think that's right.
Meaning, I think the spirit is right for like Jimmy Braddock returning everything that he got at the welfare office when he won some fights.
I think starting off with, okay, I don't want to take and I want to be a contributor and I want to be able to get by my own merit.
I think that's the right place to, I mean, it's the right spiritual place.
It's the right starting point, right?
To earn your way.
But also sometimes people get tough breaks.
And if someone is put in your path who is, especially if they're offering, I would say this.
If someone is offering you help, if someone is offering you a break at a time that you know you need it, put your ego aside, practice gratitude.
And once you get through that moment, do everything you can to pay that back, to do it for someone else.
And then you won't struggle with guilt.
People like, you like to be charitable, I'm assuming, by your question, you like to be charitable.
You like to help people out.
Makes you feel good.
Same thing with someone's helping you out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I think too, like, you know, I hope this isn't taken the wrong way because I'll explain it because on the surface, you can have a problem with it.
But when I was going through ministry school, like I didn't have much money.
I had very little money.
In fact, I wasn't destitute, but times were very, very, very, very, very tight.
And I had a buddy of mine who's going to ministry school with me out in the parking lot and he handed me 20 bucks.
He's like, here, get some gas because he knew my situation, knew what was going on.
And I was like, no, no, no, no.
He goes, don't stand in the way of my blessing.
Now, this is why I'm going to qualify this.
I don't think that it's just like, you know, God is just going to turn around and give him $20 or work on it like that.
But the whole point was like, hey, there's two things happening in this transaction.
He is giving me something because I'm in need.
So he's parting with something that he needs.
So he's not dependent on money.
He's dependent on God.
And God is using him to fill a need that I have.
I'm not dependent on that money.
I am still dependent on God.
It's both of these sides of the transaction are pointing you towards God.
And a rejection of either side of that transaction can also be saying, well, listen, I don't need your help.
That's pride.
Like you said, if you're in a tight spot, you do need some help and you approach it with gratitude, you do things the right way, that is a prideful potential action.
And there's a line for that, obviously, because there is some kind of a pride level.
I don't want to just take that.
That's where we need to be.
But a complete rejection of God's grace in a moment, you're saying, I could do this on my own.
I don't need God.
Well, maybe, maybe God's trying to help you out a little bit here.
So it was helpful for me to understand that a little bit more.
And I did give back in other ways.
Everybody can give, by the way, even the person who's destitute can still give maybe of your time, maybe of your talents.
Yeah.
And some of your treasure.
Also, the real sad fact of that is someone with the mindset who obviously is like, I'm not a charity case, is usually the kind of person who you want to help and give to because you're actually sowing better seed because this is someone who wants to be a good steward.
Whereas the church, unfortunately, has not really warned people of the suck you by, I guess, because I've known a couple of people where it's always a handout.
It's like, oh man, and I've felt bad.
And I've had two individuals who come to mind where it was a lot.
It was a lot.
And then I realized that they saw me as a mark and then it always ended up being more.
And then the minute you're like, well, I just can't do it.
Now you're their enemy.
There are people who go through life where they have no, if they've crossed over that, they've crossed that Rubicon and they're like, yeah, I have no problem taking.
Oh, I got this problem.
Thanks.
I got this problem.
And then it comes to, and I got this problem.
And if it's crickets, they go, What, you're not going to, well, what?
You're not going to help me.
Whereas the person who is silent, who wants to get by on their own, if you're able to help them, they're usually able to make that a force multiplier because they honor it.
They appreciate it.
So it really is kind of sad that that's how it works out.
And that's why I would say, you know, really try and take your ego out of it and allow people to bless you.
And then be sure the other part of that equation is to either bless them back or bless others back.
And yeah, it's a big deal.
And be very, very leery of people who constantly need help financially or time or energy because those people have used that as a strategy through life.
Let's grab.
We've already gone over time.
Let's grab two more chats.
The second one being the final chat.
All right.
Well, second to last chat from Ren Petey.
What are your thoughts on Dean Kane joining ICE?
Yeah.
Recruitment tool or genuine desire to help our country.
Could be a little column A, a little column B. I don't know.
But I think that's pretty cool.
Hold on.
Superman detained you and deported you.
You got deported by Superman.
Can you see that?
Yeah, that'd be embarrassing if Christopher Reeves rolled up.
Yeah.
You mean came out of heaven?
Hey, get back here.
Oh, he's dead.
I forgot.
I'm sorry.
No, you need ice.
That was in poor taste.
No, it's not.
It'd be even funny for Stephen Hawking.
Get in the truck, you asshole.
It was this or hell.
He shoots a net at the.
Dean Kane.
Dean Kane is a really smart guy.
Dean Kane's a sharp guy.
Dean Kane was a D1 athlete and set the sacking record when he was at Princeton?
Princeton or Harvard?
I don't know.
Gerald said a different sacking record at Notre Dame.
Yeah, he did.
It was just flicking.
So I think that's cool.
And I think he's probably pretty set.
So he's not hurting for money and he's doing it because he believes in it.
Maybe it's a little hard.
What?
You just get the sacking joke?
No.
It's for you, Josh.
He didn't hear you.
He was too busy sacking.
He's got all those Hallmark movie dollar bills flowing in.
He's fine.
When you said he's set, we give him hard time.
He's conservative.
I know he was smarter with his money.
He was very smart with his money, but he did a lot of those Hallmark movies, those Christmas movies that all have the same plot.
They're all very different.
I would love to get one of those guys.
I'm saying this is the funny part because you can kind of rib him a little bit about it.
You're not being mean.
I can pretend to have AIDS.
And rickets?
Go for it.
I remember of a Dean Kane roast.
And I think one of the jokes was his, he was actually born Dean something Tanaka was like his deapones.
I said, which in his native tongue translates roughly to one destined for the Hallmark channel.
Yes.
That's what I remember as we were talking about that.
So yeah, it was, yeah, I like Dean and I'm sure, I don't know how long he'll be doing it, but I'm sure it's probably a little of both.
I'm sure ICE is happy to have him as a recruitment tool because they want to get that message out that they're offering signing bonuses and forgiveness of debt.
They got a lot of money to spend.
And I know he's on board with the cause.
So and he's been that way for a very long time.
So it's good all around as far as I'm concerned.
Last chat.
Forgiveness of debt.
Right?
Yeah.
Or assistance with debt.
Oh, wow.
No, thanks.
it's up to like, it's like a $50,000 signing bonus.
And I think it's something like, $50,000 signing bonus, that's got to be your salary.
Well, what about the clothes?
Hold on.
What kind of.
It also says 25% premium pay, and I don't know what that means.
That's the flyer that they have.
Do you have like black leather jackets or something?
Any like long?
What?
Maybe a nice pin.
Just wondering what kind of uniforms they have.
I mean, it matters.
Oh, I can ask if Hugo boss yet.
If Hugo boss on the payroll, I'm just saying.
If an ice agent showed up looking dapper, we will exterminate and we will look good doing it.
I mean, we shouldn't do all that, but that's what they thought.
I mean, maybe they'd be less likely to run away.
Like, wow, this looks like a, oh, come on.
He has cuffs.
Who?
Anyway, let's move on.
All right, next.
All right, I don't understand.
I have no idea.
I don't get that.
An ice agent.
A well-dressed ice agent.
Explain it.
Make this worse.
Iced out.
That'd be cool.
An ice agent with all ice.
Iced T. Ice Cube.
Now you're just stop saying things with ice in it.
Ice Tech.
Your worst agent.
Just bust the door open.
Ice tray.
Save us, Chad.
All right, next chat.
This conversation is dry ice, yesterday.
Final chat, Bunker Studios and TV.
Okay.
Question for the crew.
RFK just stripped $500 million from mRNA research.
Will he get kickback from Trump because of his early deal with Big Pharma?
What?
Because of Trump's early deal with Big Pharma?
I don't want to do that.
I don't.
No.
I don't know.
Do they mean that Big Pharma hedged their bets and donated something to Donald Trump's campaign, or do they mean because of what he did early on in COVID with the COVID vaccine that everyone was demanding in Operation Warpsby?
I don't know.
But isn't it kind of a good thing?
We're talking about RFK and the mRNA vaccine.
Should we focus on the good thing?
Why would we be looking at...
Because a kickback would suggest that Donald Trump is giving a kickback to RFK.
Is it me?
So what he's saying is that Trump is in the pockets of big pharma.
Okay, will he push back on RFK, getting rid of the 500 million in funding?
Here's why I think that's a bit of a stretch, because Donald Trump selected RFK.
It's fair.
It's not like we didn't know what we were getting.
Yeah.
So like, I don't know.
I can't think of anyone less amenable to big pharma than RFK, and no one's perfect.
So I don't know why we take a look at that.
We saw that in confirmation hearings.
Yeah.
People who get millions of dollars from pharmaceutical companies grilled him about his anti-pharmaceutical opinions.
Yeah, remember Elizabeth Warner, well, you promise not to sue.
I won't promise, you crazy bitch.
Bernie comes up.
He's like, hey, you want to do that?
Suck my dick, Bernie.
There's trust.
You can see him just getting frustrated by the end.
Like he was very diplomatic.
They're like, eat my ass.
He's dealing with me.
I've been for decades.
Come on.
He knows the game.
You need to get laid.
Next chat.
She does.
All right.
Final chat from Dee Gadkins.
All right.
What are your thoughts on midterms?
Dems have won a lot of special election.
Are you guys going to pick like a good chat?
President Charlie brings us to the next step.
Hey, guys, can I ask you about the third district of the No!
Here we go.
Can't you ask what a favorite empanada is?
Yeah.
Okay.
What's your favorite empanada, Josh?
No.
Here, listen to me.
If you could moderate the next presidential debate, what question would you ask that no one else would?
This is what I got.
That shingles went to your brain, noodles.
It's not my turn.
I don't pick one.
If you could be any kind of tree, what would you be?
What question would I ask?
That one, though, that one, that one gives us.
It does.
I'm just playing.
What does that mouth do?
I'm trying to think.
What would I ask?
Are you Chinese or Japanese?
Gosh, I have a couple that I would probably want to ask.
One would be, what is the American dream?
What is the American dream?
And when we talk about that, what is that?
What's your vision of the American dream?
And what would be an interesting question to kind of a riddle is what is your opponent's vision for America?
What do they want America to be?
And how does that differ from what you want America to be?
Because so often you get them going like, oh, you know, and debt and we want an economy that's under control and we want to be America doing really well.
It's like, okay, but what is America?
Show me how you're different from your opponent that you've really examined their perspective.
What's their vision for America?
And how is it different from yours?
We don't really get those kinds of things.
That's one thing that I think, I think Donald Trump loves this country.
I really do.
I think he's, of course, a flawed person.
He's very imperfect.
But even if you go back to before he was running for president, he always loved this country and has always talked about how this is the only country where he would be able to do what it is that he has done and achieve this and crater and fall and rise again.
I believe he truly loves this country.
And I believe that he truly does love the people of this country.
People are like, oh, some billionaire.
It's like, okay, but he's not your average billionaire.
You're talking about a billionaire who would, like, when he had whatever it was, the volleyball team, like, he got them all McDonald's because that's what he would want.
Like, I kind of like, and anyone else, I kind of like that he's the billionaire who wants his stake with ketchup.
Like, it's an everyman, and I want to.
Yeah, there are a lot of things because you know why?
He's different from just a stockbroker.
He's different from someone who's just moving numbers.
He, early on, even if he got a bunch of money from his dad and he started on third base, I get that.
He had to spend time with the construction workers.
He had to spend time with people who are involved with the raw materials and getting the steel.
So he's been around a lot of those guys.
That doesn't mean that he's one of them, but you can't be successful in business if all those people you depend on routinely hate you.
It's just not really possible.
You can be successful in government because it doesn't matter.
There's no accountability.
So I think he's great and I think he loves this country, but I don't think that he always cast the most effective vision as to what it is we're trying to conserve in this country.
He talked about ways to improve it and kind of bring it back to a period of time where things would be considered improved from right now.
But that's something that I think really matters.
I really do.
And I think, especially now, this is where Gen Z is very different from millennials when we were talking about today, is they're sitting back and re-examining.
I mean, as millennials, our generation bought into the lies wholesale.
And even in the feminism stuff, the dual-income household thing, the getting a college degree thing, the global warming thing, the love is love thing, the overpopulation thing.
It was all just bought wholesale.
Like, oh, yeah.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, feminism is a good thing.
Oh, yeah, dual-income household.
That's better.
That's a good thing.
Oh, yeah, you're going to have to have fewer kids because overpopulation.
Yeah, that's a good thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we have to regulate because of a hole in the ozone.
Losing the barrier reef.
That's a good thing.
Our generation just bought that wholesale.
And then you had a rejection of it.
I would say as people get older and they pay taxes, right?
Or their views on war.
And so they vote Republican.
But Gen Z is actually looking at this through a really holistic approach where I've spoken with some young people and I think that the ones who are conservative, which is a majority, certainly of young men, actually have been thoughtful and pretty insightful.
Where millennials who became conservatives are going like, yeah, well, I was a liberal until I paid taxes.
We have a lot of Gen Z people who haven't paid taxes.
And they'll say like, yeah, I just, you know, I thought about it and I go, wait, none of this is really making sense to me.
Like the feminism thing, I see what's happened right now.
I want things that my grandfather, I don't want what you guys have.
I actually want what my grandfather had.
And I don't know how to get that because it seems like we have a country that doesn't facilitate that.
Like they've decided that they've skipped past a few generations and they actually want what it is that we had in this country.
And I don't mean that they want to be working out there on a farm, but they're going, yeah, you know, feminism is bad and they don't feel guilty going, I would love to be able to, you know, have a woman at home and kids and be a sole provider and have a white picket fence.
Whereas millennials are like, oh, I don't want to say that because whatever people want to do, every lifestyle is just as valid and just as productive to the country as the next one.
Gen Z is looking at it from the perspective of, yeah, well, what are we seeking?
I'm a conservative because that means conserving, and then they can actually describe it for you.
So that's why when I talk about this shift, it gives me a lot of hope because I don't think that people that young are often that thoughtful.
And it doesn't mean all of them.
And plenty of people are entitled.
But there is a really, really stark contrast when you look at people in Gen Z, the conservatives versus liberals.
And what I mean is liberals, they're taking everything by default and they bought into it, screaming about student loans.
And Gen Z conservatives have deconstructed a lot of it, have determined their priorities, and they've identified the problems that are standing in the way of achieving them.
And they're willing to fight and do away with it.
They're willing to say, like, you know what?
I think it's okay.
I think that we're going to make a little less money, but we're going to have someone home with our kids.
I don't want to ship my kids off to daycare.
He's saying, you know what?
I want to have a lot of kids because we have a population problem in this country and we see what's going on.
And this is something that my grandparents had a lot of kids and they always say they wish they had more.
They're very thoughtful.
And so I think that Gen Z can cast their vision.
A lot of them, Gen Z conservatives, and a big part of it is being forged in the fire because, my gosh, you know, they still were being raised, a lot of them in public education.
They can defend their position because they've always had to.
And that always strengthens an argument.
That's why we use liberal sources.
We constantly put ourselves in a position to defend our views or our arguments.
If we just read conservative stuff, if we just watch, we'd never have to do that.
You could even see it, to give an example, Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, when he ran for president, you have to understand he was, by and large, a lifelong Democrat, gave to both parties.
He ran.
Immigration was an issue.
He talked about the abysmal economy that Obama left us.
But he wasn't quite there yet.
There was a reason to be skeptical.
People didn't think he was a conservative.
We watched him become more conservative, become more right-wing when all of his friends, who he had gone to cocktail parties with, you know, people like the Clintons and people who you see in Hollywood, all these people who love Donald Trump and would talk about him whenever they could want to get in his celebrity apprentice shows, turned on him because of only a couple points of view, only a couple of perspectives, where they called him a racist or a fascist.
And having to defend himself, going like, well, I'm not a racist.
I'm not, you could see he was going, wait, wait, wait a second.
I thought you guys were my friends.
And become more, the minute you have to defend your perspective, it forces you to take inventory, go, okay, what am I defending here?
Because I need to know how to best defend it.
And Gen Z, young people, they have had to defend it really since birth.
And you even see it with Donald Trump.
So that would be the question that I would ask.
What is your opponent's vision for America?
And how do you differ?
Because I think as we go forward, and we're in a time where Europe really is no longer a thing, when you look at Canada, we need to find some common ground and agreement on that.
What kind of a country do we want to live in?
What does that mean?
And what is the American dream?
And all other decisions stem from that.
We've been doing all this the wrong way and valuing and prioritizing the wrong things.
Let's reverse course.
It's that simple.
We'll see you tomorrow.
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