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March 27, 2025 - Louder with Crowder
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What Trump’s Massive Auto Tariffs Are Really About | Guest: Bill Richmond
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Longing still for that which longer nurseth the deceit.
In faith, I do not love thee.
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
When I have plucked the rose, Plucked the rose.
Longing still for that which longer nurseth the deceit.
In faith, I do not love thee.
Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
It's better to have loved and lost Than ever to have loved and all hope.
Come cheer up my lands.
Come cheer up my lands.
It's better to have loved and lost.
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Today, we're going to be talking about NPR.
PBS, defunding.
If you can't defund drag shows for children to the tune of $530-something million or soda from Snap, you can't defund anything.
And the big topic of today, the tariffs, the auto manufacturing tariffs from Donald Trump.
Is this a good thing?
Is it going to harm American consumers?
Is it a kickback to the UAW?
Those who follow me for a long time know where I line up with the UAW because I'm from Detroit.
Hint, I'm anti.
But a few layers here that actually...
Kind of look out for the consumer in a way that may surprise you.
We'll get into that.
And, you know, at some point, those filthy Jeps have to pay.
Also, my lawyer is here for a Hardly Legal segment as we go through the signal mishap, the ins and outs.
You know, he's smart.
He's a lawyer.
I'm not.
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A lot to get to today, by the way.
My first question to you.
What's your favorite car brand?
I have to adjust my headphones here.
I don't know what's going on.
If you say Saturn, you deserve to be executed.
They still exist?
No, they don't.
But there's someone out there who's still hanging on who's actually good cars.
No. No, stop justifying your poor decision.
There's a lot of people that do that with Saab.
No, Saab's gone.
Saab's gone, and Volvo is basically Ford at this point.
I believe.
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Favorite car.
You let me know.
Favorite car brand.
If it's American, you're probably wrong.
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Welcome. Glad you're here.
Josh Firestein, not underscore Firestein on X. And my half-Asian lawyer, who, by the way, tonight and tomorrow is going to be at TK's Comedy Club in Addison, Texas.
Half-Asian, Bill Richmond.
How are you, sir?
Yo, great.
Glad to be here.
Is this why our suit has been dragging?
You've been doing so much of the comedies?
You know, there's just a lot to laugh about in the legal world, so we've got to blend them together.
Yeah, but not our lawsuit.
No, no, no, not that one.
Don't laugh at us.
Laugh at the other side.
I have an anonymous client who...
You've got to do a lawsuit with Google YouTube.
His HR guy is fucking ugly and dumb.
Oh, wow.
Geez. Well, you know, he could have been a lawyer, too.
But he chose not to.
He's a disappointment to his mother.
Before I move up, we're going to talk auto tariffs.
We're going to talk NPR, PBS.
And we are going to be discussing, of course, they're discussing on CNN nonstop, the signal mishap.
And you know what?
I understand where people are coming from.
You don't want to give the left an inch ever.
But I also understand this idea of not making it a bigger deal than it needs to be.
There's how to handle a PR scandal and how not to.
I don't necessarily know that it's a scandal, but it's a problem.
It's not.
I'm just saying we're trying to make it one.
Yes. How do you handle it?
And today now, of course, the tariffs on auto manufacturing, they're talking about it nonstop.
I listen to NPR every morning.
But before that, speaking of pedophiles, I said NPR.
It's an implication.
There are a lot of pedophiles on NPR.
National Pedophile Radio?
Yep. Yep.
Yep. It's covert.
It's covert.
Don't get me started on their pizza.
So Alex Rosen from Predator Poachers, you know him.
He's been a friend of this show where he tracks down.
Sex offenders, and he confronts them, often gets them arrested.
He actually, in this latest clip, was arrested himself for tracking down a verified, allegedly self-admitted pedophile at a steak and shake, and he's the one who gets carried out in cuffs.
I'm not going to read out loud.
This is a pedophile who works here, and this lady's defending him because she cares more about paying him his s**t.
$10 an hour than she does about justice.
I'm waiting for the cops.
Steak and shake in Branson, Missouri, employs pedophiles so she knows he's been caught before and arrested for trying to meet a little kid.
And she still defends him and still employs him and said it was slander even though he admitted to everything and got arrested for it.
Yeah, if all that is true, that's a real problem because some fast facts, the recidivism rate for pedophiles is 35%.
After 15 years.
Enablers are just as bad.
I understand you've got a lot going on.
Do we really think the best way to go about it is causing a disturbance?
Yeah, actually, well, it's not a disturbance.
It's just a worry of the public.
Wouldn't the best way to go about it be you doing your job, police officer?
The best thing is to do nothing.
Child sex offenders or pedophiles make up 1-4% of the population by estimates from psychology journals.
So that's about 13 million people, but only 140,000 of them are in jail as of 2021.
So around 10%.
Hey, something should be done.
She said she, you know, he was relieved for a while.
After the incident, kind of calmed down and it, Calm down.
I think that's 1%.
Am I wrong on my math?
I said 10%.
Oh, sorry.
As far as the rest of it, yeah.
Well, he did the same thing he was doing in October.
And obviously, whoever looked into that, well, it'll be proven.
Okay. So that being said, I'm going to document...
No problem.
Ah, the humanity.
Hey, how about the pedophile?
We're gonna do anything with that?
Doesn't seem so.
Ah, he was peacefully pedophiling.
Yeah. Can I get my wallet?
You want this mic off?
Oh, yeah.
May I get it?
Yeah, we're gonna get it.
As far as your actions today, I understand, I'm gonna be straight up honest with you guys, Straight up.
How about you don't have the right to employ a pedophile if the customers, every single one, doesn't know about it?
Because they have to notify their neighbors, but not the children at the Steak and Shake?
You also don't have a right to molest children.
In general.
I think that's a superseding.
So I do believe he's doing the Lord's work.
And let me explain something to you.
Again, the recidivism rate is 35% for pedophiles.
That's just what we know of.
1% to 4% of the population.
That makes up about 13 to 14 million people.
Only 140,000 in jail.
Like Gerald said, closer to 1%.
Hey, what we're doing isn't working.
And these people have advocacy groups.
I know you know about NAMBLA because it's silly and it's funny, but it's also evil.
Then you also have the IPCE, the International Pedophile and Child Emancipation Organization.
Here's the deal.
If you keep living in this society where people are arrested for trespassing because they're confronting not only potentially an active pedophile, but someone who knows about it in the name of empathy, in the name of tolerance, is employing them, which, by the way, is putting people at risk, this is how you end up with Dirty Harrys.
This is how you end up with Charles Bronson, Death Wish.
It will lead to vigilantism.
Do you guys understand this?
Yeah, but he makes some amazing shakes!
Maybe he does.
And his steak's not bad.
His steak's not bad.
It's irreplaceable.
Do they serve steak at Steak and Shake?
Steak and Shake.
Look, I think there's very little steak.
Much more shake.
Yeah. But you're totally right.
I mean, look, the breakdown of society is what leads people to think they have to do something.
And when you let rioters destroy cities year after year after year when they get butthurt over something, and then you go, ah, the peaceful protests with fire in the background, and then you've got a guy being like, hey, FYI, people.
Yeah. Registered.
You know, already in the system, already known, right?
You're not exercising your discretion as a law enforcement officer to not just walk that guy out and go, look, you're not doing it the right way.
Technically, this could be a problem.
Fuck out of here.
Yeah, exactly.
As opposed to what happened here.
No, exactly.
And here's the thing.
I have to say allegedly, because my lawyer is here, but the person in question working at Steak and Shake was trying to actively hook up with a minor, that employee, okay?
This person has already been arrested and was caught by Alex.
Already. Before.
The restaurant owner admitted that she, keyword being she here, was aware of the arrest but refused to believe that this person is the monster that he actually is and decided to employ him anyway.
This is the issue of empathy and tolerance over judgment.
And I'm sorry, that's a problem of a feminized society through feminism.
Well, what about rehabilitation?
Sorry, it doesn't happen with pedophiles.
Yeah, but what about this person needs to make a living?
I'm sorry, destroyed lives of children.
We don't know how many.
And this is the thing with pedophiles, because they don't get better, statistically.
This, I wouldn't be able to say this on you.
You gotta put them down.
That's the only way.
You've got to put, like, a wild...
I'm sorry.
I get that maybe you're perpetual.
You're continuing the cycle.
You were abused.
I don't care.
It's chilling.
If you've already been arrested, if you've already molested a child, and now you're back in the public sphere where you could even potentially ruin another child's life, no, sorry, you're out.
You've got to leave the village.
If you come back in, there's an arrow or a bullet, depending on the arrow, waiting for you.
Or, if we want to do this more humanely...
Right? So they feel like they have a fighting chance.
Might I propose a new national game show, The Running Pedophile?
Only one makes it out.
You put that up in every city.
I love it.
By the way, the IPCE, do they have like a corporate headquarters or maybe, you know, like a convention that the Houthis could bomb every year?
It's a Chuck E. Cheese.
I mean, I wouldn't encourage that, but I'm like, it's just...
It's kind of like you're telling us where to go.
Let me know.
Comment below.
Do you think that's an extreme statement?
If you are a pedophile who has been convicted, who has been, in other words, beyond all shadow of a doubt, you can't be in society, period, anymore.
And if you do it again, put down.
Euthanasia. You've got to treat it like chickens with bird flu.
Yes. Call it culling if it's more humane.
Exactly. Whatever you need to do.
But do me a favor, and if you have a problem with what we're saying right now, and I understand there's compassion and there's blah, blah, I get it.
I don't.
Do me a favor.
Try and imagine that your son or daughter is molested by a pedophile who got released in the hopes that they would be...
Redeemed. Also, some lady can go, well, come on, have a heart.
We've all made mistakes.
Not that one.
Nope! Not even close.
Not that one.
There's got to be mistakes that cross the line, right?
I mean, if you just consistently say, well, we're just going to compassion our ways into what?
Into letting anyone do anything, right?
I mean, there has to be a line, and the society has to enforce that line, and the government that the society has created needs to be the first.
And if you don't do that...
Yeah. There's a huge difference between molesting a child and taking mushrooms on my birthday.
Yes. Exactly.
Both mistakes?
Especially if those mushrooms were from steak and shake.
I think your symptoms were psychosomatic.
That's true.
They're portobello, wrong ones.
Steak and mushrooms, delicious.
Look, that's where I line up when we're at this point where everything is so warped.
I will say this, the church, Gerald Albert Thomas, in many ways, the modern, non-denominational evangelical church has failed people in a lot of ways.
They go, sin is sin!
In the sense that it separates you from God, sure.
But lying about doing your homework is not the same as raping a child.
I'm sorry.
That is not the case in my house.
When I grew up, if I didn't do my homework...
That's true.
Yeah. My mom was like, you gotta go steak and shake.
You gotta go work at steak and shake.
I was like, what?
I like steak and shake.
She's like, you're not allowed to eat there.
You just gotta work there.
Go down the street to pedophile gyms right now.
Your mom was very strict.
I wondered about the meat hook in the basement.
I was like, oh, that was where Bill used to hang from when he did it.
That was only for misdemeanors.
Which, by the way, speaking of societies that are broken, and I'm not a fan of, and on YouTube this would be considered racist.
And on Rumble, it might be considered a little bit racist.
If you're feeling down about how bad it is in the United States, just remember, thank your lucky stars or the Lord above, because you could have been born in India.
What's that smell?
Ha ha ha ha!
Now, I know what you're saying.
That's updated, yeah.
Do you mean to imply that India is an inferior...
Yeah, you don't even need a phrase.
It is an inferior country with a culture that is reviled by Western societies and Asians, all non-Indian Asian societies alike.
So it's a great unifier.
I get that there are good people in India, but not enough.
So, this weekend, I present to you Exhibit A, and then I'll present to you Exhibit B, and it's very similar.
To exhibit A. This was the Matarama Temple Festival in Bengaluru, India.
Things went a little...
Mistakes happen everywhere.
Believe me, I get that, okay?
I don't want to be ethnocentric.
However, I do judge a society differently if it is a mistake that everyone could have seen coming and you made it anyway.
That's pretty.
Look at all the people.
All the people.
Now, that doesn't seem that severe.
Until you see the long shot.
People all the way up.
Like a Dr. Seuss pictorial.
Hit the water tower!
Now, that looks really bad.
I mean, it was a slow crash.
It looks bad as a one-off.
Right. It looks worse when you realize the exact same thing happened at the exact same festival last year.
Oh. Oh.
Oh.
This is last year.
Somehow all those people are cleaner now.
You know.
Fool me once.
That means they had an entire year and there wasn't even just like a board meeting.
Like, hey, maybe we need to widen the base or not do this.
I think it was even taller this year.
Yeah, I think it was even more.
The center of gravity was even higher.
What we do is we make it taller and then it'll stay more erect.
Maybe if we put more people at the top and go up, no problem.
It will be safer.
We'll have more weight.
More weight at the top will make it safe.
Better for you.
Oh, they died.
I forgot to mention it was a sacrifice.
What is this thing?
It said 100-foot chariot.
I've never seen a chariot that's taller than it is wide.
Bill, it's India.
Were there people in it?
It's 2025 there, too.
And if you could transport the Mayans, if you had a DeLorean, you could take the Mayans.
You saw Apocalypto?
Take them to this area of India.
They would immediately go, that's going to...
That's going to fall, you dumbass.
It's 2025 there, too!
They're like, let it fall.
There's less of them to kill afterwards.
That's exactly what it is.
The problem is they're using square wheels.
And think about this.
And then we're told, hey, we need to uncap H-1Bs.
Bring in more.
Bring in more.
The best and the brightest are coming from these countries.
Well, then why does it still look like that, Doug?
Okay. Also, CrowderShop.com, Socialism is for Fig's shirt.
You can get it because we're no longer on YouTube and it is now permitted.
Look, Gerald's wearing it.
Yeah, we can show it.
Don't put the graphic up!
Fine, I won't sell any shirts.
Hey, you know that they don't like it when you bring the Socialism is for Fig's onesie into the neonatal units.
I can imagine.
That's actually awesome.
I didn't even think about that.
Guys, get on it.
Legal opinion.
They don't like it.
But guess what?
The customer is always right.
And this little baby customer says socialism is for fakes.
What are you going to do?
100%. Yeah.
Go ahead.
Come at me, Big Pharma.
Let's go to...
That's not us.
That's a quote from Che Guevara.
Yep. It is.
That's exactly right.
What do you want us to do?
NPR and PBS.
Spoiler, I'm not a fan.
Aww. And I'll explain to you why, largely because I don't find dueling lesbian folk piano hour-long programming to be that enthralling.
And I wonder, hey, who's listening to this?
Who's paying for this?
Well, it turns out it's you and me.
The American worker.
People say taxpayer.
The American worker.
Whether you're an employee or you're a business owner, you are the one who funds the kind of crap that we see on PBS and NPR.
And you can let me...
We went through this with Snap and Soda.
If you can't stop funding to NPR and PBS, dead shows on a dead medium that would never exist otherwise, then you don't believe that there's any opportunity or any justification for trimming government.
When you look up bloat...
You see NPR in the dictionary, and certainly PBS.
So yesterday, this came to a head.
We've been talking about this for a long time.
But the House Doge subcommittee specifically had a hearing on PBS and NPR, and they grilled some folks from those corporations.
Mr. Berliner, in his story last year, wrote, I've, in the D.C. area, editorial positions at NPR.
He said he found 87 registered Democrats, zero Republicans.
Is that accurate?
Yes. We do not track the numbers or the voter registration.
I mean, it wasn't 44, 43. It wasn't 60, 27. It wasn't 70, 17. It wasn't even 80 to 7. It was 87 Democrats, zero Republicans.
And you say NPR is not biased.
Do you think that...
A few years ago NPR educated America about, quote, the whole community of genderqueer dinosaur enthusiasts.
Do you think that that's an inappropriate use of tax dollars?
This is garbage.
I'll spend all of my time doing everything I can to ensure you guys never get another dollar of taxpayer funding.
This is complete garbage.
I feel like there's disinformation every time I listen to NPR.
And, you know, a media...
Entity like MSNBC or Huffington Post that, in my opinion, consistently spews disinformation.
They can do that.
They're a private company.
And it's still less left than NPR, according to metrics.
How about the big stories over the last few years?
But then he said when the Mueller report came out and they said, Mueller said, Robert Mueller said he found no evidence of collusion.
He said Russiagate faded from our programming.
Is that accurate?
October 2020, the New York Post had the Hunter Biden laptop story.
And one of those editors, I guess one of those 87 Democrat editors, said this.
We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories.
Mr. Berliner said, we became fervent members of the team Natural Origin, even declaring that the lab leak was debunked by scientists.
Turns out, though, the lab leak is what most people think actually caused the COVID virus.
Sorry, sir.
Is there a question there?
There is.
You guys were 0 for 3. On the three of the biggest stories in the last five years, you guys were 0 for 3, and yet you maintain that NPR is not biased?
Wow. By the way, fact check, everything that you just heard there is accurate.
We actually had this framed out for the segment.
You know what?
Jim Jordan did it.
He already did it.
He did it very well.
So just point it out.
Yeah, that's accurate.
Let's think of this racket.
You think about money laundering.
Washing, cleaning money, where you put it through different entities and sources so that people don't really know where it's coming from.
Okay? You have the government, and the money goes to NPR, PBS, where they claim that they are actually funded by viewers like you, and then they affect the outcome of elections so that they continue the cycle of government funding.
Think about that.
Just the Hunter Biden laptop story affected the election.
Russiagate probably affected midterms.
Lab leak!
That's why we were suspended.
That's the big reason Donald Trump was deplatformed.
Remember that?
Do you remember that?
I know he's back now, but do you remember that?
The President of the United States was deplatformed because of COVID and because of January 6th, which was also lied about by NPR.
And you paid to undo your own vote in the election because of misinformation.
You won't see it on CNN.
You won't see it on any of the legacy media.
They'll go, oh, they want to...
They want to defund Big Bird.
Remember that one?
Even Mitt Romney, one of the few things he did right, said, yeah, I think we're going to stop PBS funding.
People go, why do you want to defund Big Bird?
Well, hold a second.
Talk about the news and talk about their relationship with the government.
It's a government-funded entity.
By the way, let me give you the number.
$535 million from the federal government alone for their 2025 budget.
$535 million.
They've come out and said less than 10% of our funding comes from the government.
It's a lie!
So, of course, the left, who wants this propaganda to continue, and Pravda R., they came to the defense of NPR, because you can't trim anything from the government.
Like a representative Greg Caesar played, by the way, by Keegan-Michael Key.
Here they go.
Holy shit, is that a real photo?
Yeah, bring it back up.
That guy's everywhere.
Holy cow!
That's the same guy.
It looks like Keiko Mikey Key's on the left because of Elmo.
Yes! It looks sillier.
It looks like a sketch.
Yeah. The real person looks sillier than the comedic actor.
Let's hear their defense of NPR, including, by the way, Crockett the racist.
So once again, my Republican colleagues are dragging in a skip goat.
It sounds like them too.
This time PBS and NPR to try to distract from the fact that Trump and Musk...
It's the $535 million.
Mr. Rogers is on the air.
So I'm sad to see that this once proud committee, the principal investigative committee in the House of Representatives, has now stooped to the lowest levels of partisanship and political theater to hold a hearing to go after the likes of Elmo and Cookie Monster and after the ARGARC, all for the...
Unforgivable sin of teaching the alphabet to low-income families' children.
All it is is strumming.
Free speech is not about whatever it is that y'all want somebody to say.
And the idea that you want to shut down everybody that is not Fox News is bullsh**.
We need to stop playing.
These people are fundamentally stupid and dishonest.
You want to shut down everybody that isn't Fox News?
And if you're more offended that you think that's racist, get out.
I'm not seeing them want to shut down anybody.
MSNBC? No, no one's trying to shut it down.
CNN? No one's trying to shut it down.
No, no, I'm trying to shut it down.
We would like to see it fail of its own accord.
No one's trying to shut it down.
It's $535 million.
And I say, who cares?
Hold on a second.
We went through the billions of dollars going to junk food in SNAP.
Remember the billions of dollars with USAID?
$500 billion a year in annual fraud.
Fraud. Not misappropriation, not overspending, right?
Not inefficiencies, not fraud.
We don't know where it goes.
Can we not all start with, yeah, trans dinosaur enthusiasts at NPR?
You know, I don't know, maybe you get a few bucks, maybe a million, but by the time we reach 534 million per annum, I think the taxpayer deserves a little bit better for their money.
I mean, I know we're so...
We've lost context, scope so much that we think that's not a lot of money.
How much do you think that could contribute to, I don't know, military readiness, $535 million?
How much do you think it could contribute to improving education if we want to do that, if we're talking about school?
Hey, what about just not spending it?
How about that?
The left starts with status quo, status quo, status quo, status quo, more money.
That's the solution to everything.
By the way...
When they're talking about freedom of speech, it's funny.
Whenever the left talks about freedom of speech like Jasmine Crockett, it's not being able to tell them what to say.
Well, hold on a second.
Why do you say if it's a company, it's their choice, even though they benefit from Section 230?
And in this case, wouldn't the same rule apply that the company is funded by the government?
So they would have a vested interest, logically, in speaking well of large government.
I was raised in Canada.
I apologize.
In the last election, you wonder how someone like Trudeau gets elected?
You wonder how a closeted homosexual who's the love child of Castro gets elected?
He promised more money to the CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, than anyone.
Literally part of the election.
One of the candidates said, I will give, I believe it was $100 million extra per year to the CBC.
And Trudeau said, I'll give $150.
Guess who got the positive coverage?
You want that here in this country?
$535 million from the federal government.
For NPR, PBS, to fund projects like Woke Word of the Day.
With Louder with Crowder, learning is fun.
Hi, I'm Josh Feierstein.
And I'm PJ!
And we're here to tell you about today's Woke Word of the Day, which is...
Let the logo...
Today's word is...
Marginalization! That's right.
Marginalization. Marginalization is like a more spreadable substitute for butter that some people have argued is a more healthy replacement.
What? Learning is fun.
That cost 12 million.
Gotta pay those guys.
Gotta pay them well.
Let me give you some history and some interesting information, too, that you guys may...
It kind of gets glossed over.
All references, links available in the description.
PBS NPR, they have a very long history of being far left in their bias.
A 2014 Pew study showed that NPR was more left-leaning than MSNBC, CNN, BuzzFeed, and HuffPo.
And they were significantly more left-wing than Fox News was right-wing.
Here's another crystal clear example.
There's an Easter egg.
In here, 2023, there's this show on PBS, Washington Week with The Atlantic, and they had a roundtable attacking Republicans for questioning what we then found out to be true, only a very short period later, Biden's mental acuity.
It's not just making an issue of Biden's age.
It's lying.
It's saying he's senile, saying he's demented, saying he's out of it.
I mean, I think it's important to sort of state for a fact that a lot of these are just...
Right. Mentally, he's quite acute.
That was Jeffrey Goldberg.
How's that guy?
Sounds familiar.
Mentally, he's quite acute.
Yeah. That was September of 23, you morons.
That was Jeffrey Goldberg, the guy at the center of this signal scandal right now.
So just in case you wondered how incestuous it was.
And even after that, from 23 to 24, the PBS NewsHour used the term far right 27 times more than the term far left.
Here's something interesting, too, and this comes down to the pathology of the left.
Okay. The average PBS viewer, right?
It's a middle-aged woman who owns a home, has at least one child, a pet, postgraduate degree, right?
They're 44% more likely, the average PBS viewer, to hold a doctoral degree than the general public.
In general, they have a $250,000 portfolio, and less than 10% of them give.
To PBS or NPR.
In other words, these people are wealthy.
These people are the example of white privilege.
Generally, the average PBS viewer or NPR listener, we don't have the numbers on NPR.
I bet you they're even worse because it's radio, so it's likely even older and more privileged.
Go look at that.
And they don't.
Why do we allow this to be said as a narrative that the left is somehow more empathetic or compassionate?
This is the perfect example.
You want it?
Just pay for it.
You can't even get 10% of privileged, white, wealthy, doctorate-holding viewers to give to this shit.
But they think it's compassionate to take from you, who makes less, you, who likely has invested less, to pay for the crap that they want to watch.
It's a wealth transfer.
You are some wealthy, privileged, white bitches plaything!
And I love it when Jasmine Crockett and others go out there and say, you're trying to take away public programming from poor kids.
Poor black kids, typically, is what she says.
I just did this thing.
PBS, primetime viewership, 80% plus white.
So they're not even reaching the target audience very well.
And by the way, if you like Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers, they can stand on their own.
They can go out there.
And by the way, these women, these white women, 126% chance they're more likely that they're going to have a $250,000 portfolio.
Do you also know that that probably means they have internet?
Which means they probably have more access to all of human history or than all of human history to content for kids that's free for them on YouTube and other platforms.
It's not like this is the only place they can go.
Right. Get our money back.
Yeah, but we have Daniel Tiger.
I mean, you know what the test is?
Here's the test.
You go back to that stat that Jordan was saying where he said, you know, what was it, 88?
Folks who were Democrats were 87. 87-0.
And this is the argument you use when someone goes, oh, this is terrible.
No, there's no bias.
Be like, okay, great.
So during the next four years, we're just going to switch it.
It's going to be 87 Republicans and zero Democrats.
And if they even twitch just a little bit, and their eye, of course, will blow out of their brains, their skulls will collapse.
That's how you know it's a problem.
So if you're like, hey, if the other side was doing the exact same thing.
What if we just did 60-20, right?
60-20, would you be okay, Republicans versus Democrats?
They would say, absolutely not.
This is state-sponsored communication.
This is propaganda, blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, all right, great, let's just turn it around.
It is state-sponsored propaganda, just to be clear.
To give you an idea, to put it in 87-0.
87-0.
And they say, that's not biased.
They want you to believe that their journalism is necessary.
Shows like this are more extremist, even though we make our references available.
87-0.
Do you realize that if you grabbed 87 people in downtown San Francisco or Oakland or Detroit, you would have registered Republicans?
It would be a statistical impossibility.
I guarantee you it would probably be at least seven.
And she claims that she didn't know.
Yeah. Oh, we don't keep a record of people's political affiliations.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you just accidentally.
You just accidentally got 87. And zero.
And zero.
Yeah. That just happened.
That's like getting a zero in the SAT.
You're right.
They're like, you literally get 1,200 points just getting your name right.
For Christ's sake, I think Mr. Rogers is Republican.
It's just, yeah.
Everything is a lie from the left.
And I mean that.
They go, oh, I don't think there's any bias.
Just say that there is.
Look, go ahead.
Let's play this game.
Ask me if there's some bias here.
Is there any bias?
Yes. Oh, okay.
Yes, and I'll let you know.
And I ask you to fact check me.
I just, and I've been saying this for, I came under, I came up under the tutelage of that guy, Andrew Breitbart.
I don't believe there's such a thing as unbiased journalism.
I don't think that it's a thing.
I don't think it was ever a thing.
If you go back to Walter Cronkite, Brian, anyone, take your pick.
It's not a thing.
Human beings have their own biases, period.
I'm honest about it.
NPR is still trying to keep the charade alive.
No, no, no, no, no.
We're just objective.
You're 0 for 3 on the biggest stories that would affect the outcome of the election and always making the error to favor one side, the Democrats, and 87 and 0. If we can't cut the 530-something million dollars to NPR or soda from Snap...
It's very clear.
The left just believes that you can't cut anything from government, and if you try, they'll call you racist, homophobic, trans.
And I know it sounds crazy.
Like, these two things aren't related.
Correct. They're not.
That's just what they do because they have to keep the lie alive.
Let me ask you this.
What was your favorite PBS program when you were growing up?
I didn't like any of them.
I watched Ghostbusters, Ninja Turtles, and He-Man because I'm not a homosexual.
Let's go back to...
You ever watch Sesame Street?
My favorite was Tyrannosaurus Sex.
Yes, Tyrannosaurus Sex.
It was a genderqueer dinosaur show.
He said as a child, not as an adult.
Mine was...
Oh, sorry.
Mine was Tricerabottom.
Let's go on to...
They do gay.
Do they have sex comics?
Oh, man.
They really do have sex comics.
So exciting.
turns me into a fapter is The Bongino army is like, what does that mean?
Sorry. You do it too much.
You do it too much afterwards, you'll be Brachiosaurus.
These are dad dinosaur jokes, and we feel bad about it.
We feel just as bad doing it as you do watching it.
Let's move on to the tariffs.
This is what everyone is talking about.
Full disclosure, you know, I'm not a fan of the UAW and how they have played the largest role in destroying the American auto industry.
So my first reaction was, ooh, looking at these tariffs on auto imports and seeing that the UAW is supportive of this, that is probably going to be bad for American consumers.
But then I thought about it, and I did a little more, not a little more digging, but kind of did a refresher course on the tariffs that we see in other countries.
And I actually think that this policy, if implemented correctly, could favor you, the consumer, and by the way, makers of cars, and not just the union, and certainly not just the big three.
If you actually get into the rules, you realize this is designed to specifically kind of cut China, Mexico off at the knees, who are often one and the same, and to empower even...
Japanese car manufacturers, Korean or American car manufacturers, who try and bring some jobs here onshore rather than simply seeing you as a consumer market.
So it could be a pretty good thing, but we'll give you the information.
First off, let him set it up.
25% new tariff on all auto imports in the United States.
Donald Trump announced it yesterday.
What we're going to be doing is a 25% tariff on all cars that are not made in the United States.
If they're made in the United States, there's absolutely no tariff.
We started off with a 2.5% base, which is what we were at, and we go to 25%.
And basically, as you know, and as you've been seeing, not reporting as accurately as it should be reported, because it's a massive story.
Businesses coming back to the United States so that they don't have to pay tariffs, and I think also because of November 5th, the election.
They're very happy.
So we'll effectively be charging a 25% tariff.
But if you build your car in the United States, there is no tariff.
And what that means is a lot of foreign car companies, a lot of companies are going to be in great shape because they've already built their plant, but their plants are underutilized, so they'll be able to expand them inexpensively and quickly.
And you all know he has been on a tear lately as it relates to tariffs, which earned him the nickname the Terrifier.
And honestly, I think it works.
Oh, creepy.
It does.
What he just said there.
How do Democrats expect?
They have been championing the cause of the middle class and bringing back manufacturing jobs to the United States.
Why do you think they left?
Do you think you can just turn this back on and make a product that's more expensive and inferior and people will buy it and that industry will thrive and all of a sudden the middle class will be booming again like you think it needs to be because of manufacturing jobs?
Do you think that's going to happen without any kind of incentive for manufacturing jobs to come back to the United States?
Yeah. The problem now is with...
Capitalism, and again, I'm a free enterpriser, so I don't agree at all with Bernie and the socialist pricks out there.
But the issue that we've run into is now you have to compete with slave labor because of the internationalization of markets.
They should be championing this on the left.
They should be like, you know what?
This is going to cost a little bit, but at least you're not going to have slave labor doing this, and at least these are going to be American manufacturing jobs.
We've been championing the cause of the middle class.
This is what they say, forever.
And this would be a win for them.
And by the way, there hasn't been free trade.
No. So let me go through a few key facts here.
Key fact number one.
So, you do have major trading partners, for example, like Korea, Japan, you're talking about Kia, Hyundai, right, and Honda, Toyota.
They don't have tariffs, to be clear, on American cars coming in.
That being said, they already have plants here in the United States, and like he said, they have the ability to ramp up capacity quite a bit.
So, they are allies.
They won't be affected as negatively as people think, but we do need to be careful about that.
I believe that this is aimed at two key...
Bad actors.
And we can kind of toss Canada in, but that's sort of an aside.
So Mexico and China.
Let's start with them.
So the share of auto imports in the United States, what we import coming from Mexico, is about 22% of the market.
So $49 billion, approximately, I believe.
I believe this is an annual basis.
I don't know what we have there, if it's a specific spread.
As far as China, here's the thing.
We don't bring in a lot of cars from China, but there's a reason for that.
We bring in a lot of Chinese So only about $3.8 billion as far as auto manufacturers as a whole.
But the parts, $15 billion, 9.5%.
Here's the other thing.
That number's really low because what China does goes back to Mexico.
They export a lot of their parts to Mexico where plants move from the United States to assemble them.
So now you have an American car from, let's say, Ford that is made from Chinese parts and assembled in Mexico.
So it's very important for you to realize that the UAW and American-made is bullshit in a lot of cases, just to be clear.
As far as Canada, too, it's important, but they don't make up a ton of imports, but about $28 billion, 12.9%.
But here's the point.
We're their biggest mark.
Far more cars are sold in the States than in Canada.
So Lexus has a plant there, Toyota.
Why wouldn't we want that in the States?
Why should anything be given to Canada at that point?
By the way, the cars that come out of Canada suck.
I had a Toyota that was made in Canada and the guy said, oh wait, look at the VIN number.
He said, yeah, you're really screwed.
We've had problems with all of these circuit boards because it's made in Canada.
You want to make sure you get the right VIN number.
So why is the United States importing any cars assembled in Canada?
In that case, the labor isn't even necessarily cheaper.
That's just one of those things, a greasing of the palms, a favor for a favor.
So yeah, let's bring that here to the United States.
And certainly, you were about to say something.
Yeah, well, so the production of cars, obviously, that matters a lot.
We talked about it.
They're circumventing this process.
Just so you know, according to our good friends here at CNN, 50% of the parts used to make cars in America are foreign parts.
50%. Yeah.
That's half of it.
And you think most of that's coming from, you know, Canada or Mexico, that they're producing those things?
No. Most likely those things are coming from China.
And you do a couple assembly steps in Canada.
You do a couple in Mexico.
That's happened.
We talked about that.
Right. Then it gets in the United States.
This is a major trade war that people probably didn't even know was going on.
But car manufacturers did, for sure.
They're taking advantage of it.
Yeah, they definitely are.
And the UAW is taking advantage of it.
In other words, the UAW...
Look, they're doing it right now on there.
50% foreign parts.
It's exactly right.
Yeah, 50% foreign parts.
Like, 12 new plants were built in Mexico just since 2019.
Hold on a second.
How does that help American-made for a plant to go to Mexico and parts from China?
And I get that you'll say the UAW has wanted to bring them back, but there's a reason that it's had to leave.
And by the way, you look at these American plants for Hyundai, Kia, Toyota.
They employ more than quote-unquote American cars.
So here's something, too, to keep in mind, is that it's been very hard for the United States to export cars, for example, to Europe.
And to China, it's non-existent.
We'll get into why that's the case.
And why that's so...
You don't think that an American car manufacturer would like to open up the second biggest market in the world in China and can make a very inexpensive car?
They're not allowed to do so unless they hand over all of their IP.
Effectively, there's one exception, Tesla, which is weird.
But let me go to Germany really fast.
We don't like it.
Share of U.S. auto imports from Germany, $25 billion, so 11%.
And then Germany and the EU, they have a tariff on the United States, any of our cars, 10%.
But that's actually not the whole story.
And we'll get into some of the unfair market practices.
But it stings.
It stings really badly.
Almost as bad.
If you want to know what it feels like, you know how badly it kind of stings when you're in tax season?
It's like that, except it's worse in Canada.
What does overpaying on your taxes feel like?
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These guys have helped some folks out here quite a bit.
And I hate Texas.
It could go to supporting NPR and PBS.
Absolutely. Let's not do that.
Here's key fact number two.
Let's go through some basic math here.
This is the second point that I want to make.
The unfair market practices that you have.
So I just gave you the example for example.
Germany. Their tariff.
10%. Okay, so in the United States, you can get Mercedes, you can get BMW, you can get all these cars, and I think there's about a 2.5% tariff as baseline.
Okay, you have a 10% one in Germany, but that's not all.
Let me take an example.
Let's say a $30,000 car from the United States is being exported to Germany, okay?
So, you have $30,000, okay?
You add $2,000 in shipping, we're now at $32,000.
Let's add the EU car tariff, 10%, that gets us to $35,000, $35,200.
Then there's a German VAT tax, it's about 19%.
You get it to $41,000, plus a registration fee on top of that.
This $30,000 car now costs over $42,000 in Germany.
It makes it impossible to compete.
So they bring their cars over here, and most American cars, they haven't been great.
Some are good.
But I guarantee you there are cars that Germans would like to have available, especially in that lower-priced sector of the market.
It's not something where the United States can compete honestly.
And we see that.
Across other countries.
Let's take a more extreme example.
China. With tariffs, don't look at how the world, how it just is.
Look at how this really should be if it were fair.
Right? Okay, it's true.
We don't actually export cars to China.
Yeah. But there's a reason for it.
It's kind of like when we talked about the tariffs in Canada.
They go, well, you know, the 250% tariff on dairy, I mean, it doesn't matter because we don't sell any milk to Canada.
Yes! Because of the 250% tariff on dairy.
That's the point that you're not taking into account.
So in China, take the same $30,000 US car, right?
If we wanted to sell cars in China, and I'm sure that we would, you know what it becomes?
It becomes $56,000 because you have a 15% tariff off the top.
Which is funny because then you have another 10% retaliatory tariff.
Do you guys know this?
Do you guys know this?
China has a 10% tariff, right?
They already had a tariff.
So Donald Trump said, hey, we're going to institute retaliatory tariffs.
And they're like, oh, now we do another one.
More retaliation.
No, no, no.
That's not how it works.
You threw a punch.
We threw one punch.
Now you're throwing two punches.
What? So you did 15. We mirrored it.
And now they go, we're going to have another 10%.
So you have a 15% initial tariff.
Then you have up to a 40% consumption tax.
A 13% VAT tax and a 10% additional retaliatory tariff because we met their tariffs with an equal tariff.
$30,000 car is now $56,000.
Think about that for a second.
Now, let's contrast that.
Let's just take German, for example, for bringing it to the United States.
You tell me this is fair.
Car costs $30,000, $2,000 shipping.
2.5% tariff gets us to $32,800.
You add some specific states, right?
Sales tax might be 5%.
Basically, a $30,000 car is $34,000 to $36,000.
They can bring their stuff in here.
We don't punish them.
Americans get more choice, but Germans get less choice.
Not to mention China, not to mention all these other countries in the EU.
Think about it.
They literally have an entire global supply of consumers.
We pretty much just have the United States.
If you're a business, that's a big deal.
We'd have to run this entire company differently if we were only allowed to be viewed in the United States.
That's where these tariffs come in, and they're pretty important.
This is actually a pretty effective strategy.
Here's key fact number three.
I know I'm being a little nerdy today, but I'm from Detroit, and so this is something I was thinking about quite a bit.
Honda, for example, they can build their Civics, and I think they will, in Indiana instead of Mexico.
Think about that.
That's 210,000 cars per year now going to be built in the U.S. Hyundai.
They're going to locate a new steel mill in Louisiana.
Think about that, because now that allows us to have some raw materials, not Chinese parts.
That's a $5.8 billion plant.
1,300 jobs.
Toyota's going to be producing electric vehicle and hybrid batteries at a North Carolina plant.
Honda's going to be buying those batteries from Toyota to avoid tariffs.
Hey, there you go.
Think about the plus side of this.
I'm not saying that this won't increase costs, but you do have to look at both sides of this, and you have to start with how the world is.
NAFTA sounds great.
Free trade is great.
It doesn't exist.
I was a libertarian.
I think there are few people more brilliant than Thomas Sowell.
I read Friedman growing up.
I had a subscription to Reason magazine, and at a certain point, I said, oh, wait, there is no free trade, though.
So we do have to live in the real world.
And right now it's completely unfair.
This is a way of addressing it, by the way, that isn't just a kickback to UAW.
Yes. Because you can work for Honda or Toyota and be American.
And actually, if anything, it might kind of kneecap them a little bit.
A little bit.
So especially if you're putting these places in right-to-work states so they can avoid the unions, which you know these foreign car companies are not going to go and build in Detroit and Cleveland and Chicago areas.
There's no reason to, right?
You think the Japanese are going to understand?
No, no, no, no.
You do not get four months of three LASIK dental.
No, no, no, no.
We have to be profitable.
They think it's going to increase the price of the average car.
Again, this is kind of the fear-mongering.
$3,500 to $12,000 per year.
Okay, that was according to CNN.
Again, I get a lot of these facts because that's what they're trying to tell people out there.
Okay, fine.
Congratulations to every car in America that's made here in America.
You're now on sale.
$3,500 to $12,000 cheaper than the cars coming from overseas.
You're welcome.
We just helped the American workers sell more cars.
And now, since there's more demand for your cars, you're going to produce more cars and ramp up production at the already existing facilities that can handle more production.
You're welcome.
Well, here's the good news.
The most American cars are on the road right now.
Number one is Tesla.
Yeah. 80% to 87% as far as both manufacturing and parts.
Ford Mustang is there.
That's as good as 80%.
Then you've got the Honda Passport at 76%.
So Tesla, Honda, these aren't necessarily UAW jobs.
There can be more good-paying manufacturing jobs across this country, not just in Detroit.
And here's the issue, too.
There's nothing you can do federally.
about the UAW and their stranglehold on Detroit.
No. They own the state.
It's a problem.
And if they have their way, American cars are just going to continually get more expensive and become crappier.
This is a way to favor, to at least allow a possibility for the American consumer to have more choice if they want to employ Americans and not have to be beholden to the UAW, who, by the way, largely create cars with Chinese parts in Mexico anyway.
So this whole be American, buy American, I understand.
But learn what that really means.
Learn what that really means, because it's not a Ford that's assembled with Chinese parts in Mexico.
This is actually about putting America first, regardless of the origin of company, and making us an actual manufacturing hub.
And also, by the way, more than just, the world has been seeing us as a pool of consumers, and that's it.
Just, okay, we can use them as consumers, but we won't consume their product.
We're a country too.
China, you have consumers, but you're also really, you guys are protectionists as far as your businesses, your industry, making sure your people have jobs.
Same thing with Japan in a lot of ways, certainly with the EU.
Okay, but we're a country too.
I know that you think the American worker can afford it and we can subsidize the whole world, but at a certain point, we're not just people.
Who hand over our money, you do have to start playing fairly, and that's what...
And by the way, it's leverage, it's negotiation.
I'm sure when people say, hey, we will move some plants over, Donald Trump will ease up on it.
Except for China.
Screw those guys.
Yeah, absolutely.
Sorry, half of you, Bill.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I get it.
I could have.
But I like the Chinese rules.
They're really good.
My mom loves them.
No, they're not.
They're not at all.
They're really good.
I get seven wontons for every car that's sold.
Nice! I'm a hungry guy.
I'm a hungry guy.
It's down from eight.
It's down from eight.
So the tariffs are working.
They're working.
But I don't understand why these things existed in the first place.
We had a position of strength.
We negotiated from a position of strength and we did it in the weakest possible way.
Do not in any way, shape, or form protect our consumers, our workers, our economy, and...
Just let them protect theirs.
Now, I understand we want to sell stuff over there in different ways, but we have done this in every industry, it seems, where we have screwed the American worker over, and we never had to.
That was the thing.
We never had to do it.
Let me ask you this.
It's a loss of values.
Yeah. What's what matters?
And are we paying the lowest price for something versus the short-term benefit versus the long-term benefit of making sure that we have capacity?
Right. I mean, we talk about cars, but I'll tell you, if you look at the pharmaceutical side, the number of drugs that come here or the key ingredients that only come from China or something like 80 or 90 percent, right?
We want to talk about a trade war.
All right, we can walk, but you're not going to use your blood pressure meds.
You're not going to be able to get all these.
And if we don't do something about it now, it will be too late.
And it might already be.
It might already be.
And think about this in another world, right?
Let's say Ford, GM, Dodge.
What do you think would happen if they weren't facing 20, 30, 40 percent?
Taxes and tariffs, for example, in China or 15-20% when you add it up in Europe.
If they were able to sell that much more product from which they've been boxed out, you think that might reduce costs?
You think that if they had a bigger market, a bigger buying pool, you think they might be able to make more cars, right?
Because as capacity goes up, often costs can go down.
Do you think that they could be a more profitable company?
Do you think they could make cars that are cheaper, more effective for people who are in that lower end of the market?
We don't really have a market, American cars, as far as Europe, as far as China.
And China, by the way, is a big problem because if you look at EVs, guess what?
They're all too happy to supply Europe with cheap EVs provided they steal intellectual property from other companies and Europe's happy to take it.
But God, no, no, no.
Let's make sure that we punish the American cars coming in.
This is a rigged game.
It really is.
And unfortunately, it is largely, they sit at the table, they go, okay, all right.
Let's just assume the United States, right?
We don't need to do anything to help them because how can they help us?
How can we use the United States to help us?
Because they have the most buying power.
They have the most people who consume these products.
How can we use them to advance ourselves?
And then how do we box them out?
That's what you see with the EU.
It's certainly what you see with China.
And it's often what you see with Canada.
It's not right.
It's not fair.
And I'm glad that people are waking up to it.
And I'm glad that people are waking up, by the way, to the fact that YouTube and Google is run by angry, tranny overlords at big tech.
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The signal controversy, it's still going on.
It's what they're talking about on media because it's the one thing they think is close to a win, and even Dave Portnoy, let's run this clip, decided to weigh in.
Jeffrey Goldberg comes out after.
He's like, hey, morons, you guys included me on a single group chat with sensitive classified information discussing the Houthis attack before it happened.
Pete Heskiff's immediate reaction is like, no, that never happened.
We didn't leak any classified information.
Oh, classified information in there.
And Jeffrey Goldberg released all the text in the single group chat.
And guess what?
It's super sensitive.
It's super classified.
It's surreal.
You can't have the top of the top security people in the United States with the most sensitive information in the world adding random editors of a magazine that hates Trump's guts to a group chat talking about an attack before it happens on a terrorist group.
Update here, and this is why yesterday a lawsuit was filed against the Trump administration over this whole Signal App story, alleging, quote, unauthorized use of Signal App for official business, violating the Federal Records Act, and the lawsuit is looking to get a declaration that failing to preserve Signal messages is also a violation of the FRA.
A lot of people are sounding off on it.
Now, I understand two minds about it.
Half Asian Bill is...
You don't want to give the left an inch because they smell a little blood in the water and general mindset is screw you.
I'm Mr. Screw you.
Yes. But there also is something to be said for not allowing this to snowball into a bigger issue than it needs to be if someone made a mistake.
The right thing...
I don't want Donald Trump to have to fire anybody.
No. I want somebody to recuse themselves.
That would be the right thing for someone to do.
Explain to us this a little bit.
I guess the first legal point you have is about setting up of...
I mean, look, there's a complicated answer here.
The first one is we've got to get this right out, and I agree with you.
We've got to acknowledge mistakes, right?
No one is perfect when they're doing things.
And this was a fuck-up, right?
The National Security Advisor adding an editor-in-chief of anything, any magazine.
It doesn't matter what it is or any publication, right?
Not good.
Not a good look.
But it is odd that it is the...
De facto, I hate Trump journalist at the Atlantic.
Like, that just happens to be...
That's a weird one!
Of all the ones you're going to add, right?
And what we haven't heard yet, and there's actually going to be a filing today, there's a deadline for a response to the motion for temporary injunction is at 1 o'clock today, and then there's a hearing at 4 o'clock.
Now, it might get pushed back, so we'll see exactly what the government's position is outside of some of the public statements or some of the interviews that have gone on, but...
You know, why Jeffrey Goldberg?
This is such a very odd, and who were you trying to add?
Right? Was there another Jeff Goldberg that needed to be on there?
Right. Was that like the deputy national security advisor?
Is James Goldberg?
I don't know.
That's a crazy part about it.
But, you know, there's some misinformation going around around the story, especially from the left and what they're trying to push, right?
Which is to say, like, look, this was incredibly, this is the most sensitive, most classified information possible.
One, there are many, many layers above.
That's not to say this wasn't sensitive information.
It's not to say that some of this couldn't have been detrimental had it gotten out.
But people are saying, oh, no one in the government's ever allowed to use Signal.
Incorrect. That's not correct.
There are many different ways to be able to use certain apps.
And the biggest issue...
The biggest issue here is not the communicating on signal.
It's that you added someone who shouldn't have been on it.
That's the first issue.
The second is the self-deleting messages.
Because the Federal Records Act is very, very clear about government officials having to retain their records.
And we might find out that this was a default setting on that particular thing, right?
But either way, they have to be aware of it.
And you'll notice in the lawsuit...
Marco Rubio is named.
Seems odd, right?
He wasn't a part of that thread, but it's his duty as part of the archival regulations.
I think he might have been a part of the thread, but didn't say anything.
Oh, okay.
That's what I was hearing today.
They were saying, turns out he was in the thread, but he wasn't actually involved in conversation.
Right, right.
And this is the problem, too, with the waters being muddy.
We're saying, well, hold on.
Was he in the thread?
Was he not in the thread?
And why are they going after him?
And like I said, the fact is, if people don't just admit you're going to see this investigation, hey, hand over your texts.
You know, President Trump, hey, hand over your text, Tulsi Gabbard, hey, Marco Rubio, and you end up bogging all of them down.
Yep, that's what I'm concerned with.
Right, right.
I mean, and look, people will say, again, oh, signal messages.
No one should ever have signal messages.
This group that filed the lawsuit, actually one of their bases for filing the lawsuit is that they already have federal records requests, federal open records requests for signal messages that pre-existed this whole dispute, right?
Because governments are already using it.
Of course.
In times when it's been an issue.
There was one about something related to the Ukraine war where some of the staff were using Signal and they said, look, your issue, this may or may not be the best way depending on the level of sensitivity of the information, right?
And there are certain systems for classified information.
But here, it's really about are you retaining the records in the right way?
And that's where someone's going to have to step up and go, these should not have been set to delete.
And regardless of whether it's classified or not, that was kind of a...
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