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Dictator Dic-Off Sadistic 16: The Most Out of Pocket Bracket You've EVER Seen
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Hey, glad to be with you.
Today we're going to do something a little different.
This has been a long time coming.
Where a lot of you have likely heard of a couple of dictators throughout history.
Probably only one you're probably familiar with.
I'm sure you can guess and comment below which dictator is most famous, but there are a lot of dictators.
Who existed throughout the ages and their body count is in the hundreds of millions.
And so we are actually going to go through each and every one today to once and for all determine
who is the most, depending how you look at it, who's the worst or most accomplished dictator
in the great dictator Diktov.
So look, we have brackets here, but before we get into the brackets, we have 16 seeds today.
I'm going to introduce to you, we have here in the studio to help us out, we have our wonderful researchers.
We have Ginger Snap Lane.
How are you, sir?
Good, good.
We have George the Greek.
Yep, who's there?
And then, because we're required to, we do have Sam from HR.
This is an HR nightmare.
I have to be here to observe all of this mishigas today.
Well, we also just needed a counterbalance because of, you know, what happened to the Jews.
So that brings us to our first point here.
I think we all agree.
Hitler bad.
Hitler terrible.
And that is the dictator you're probably most familiar with.
So.
Purpose for this is, you know, we want you to learn about the other dictators throughout history.
This is actually how this started.
A lot of young people knew about Hitler.
They didn't even, they weren't familiar with Stalin.
They weren't familiar with Mao, let alone the atrocities and how many people died.
So, again, Hitler bad.
and we're just he's the worst dictator ever no one even comes close hitler bad we'll never even consider today even though we have 16 seeds even insinuating that anyone is anywhere near as bad as hitler because he's the worst and i promise you no matter what we go through today that hitler is still the worst dictator no matter what however We think he needs to be included.
We'll take him off the board, but we'll include him as the yardstick.
We'll measure other dictators by a Hitler rating system.
Yeah, that works.
Let's go through the brackets here, but first let's just let's take Hitler off the board and bring in our assistant for today.
Guten Tag, Steven!
Why don't you go ahead and take yourself off the board there, Mein Führer.
Yeah, Adolf, let's just take him off.
And you know what?
Because of that, we had him paired up in a bracket with the Ayatollah Khomeini.
We're just going to give him a bye, I think.
Sounds fair.
Wouldn't you guys think so?
All right.
He had no shot.
No, no.
Hitler is just... Hitler is... You can grab a seat there.
I see you have some people here.
Yes.
Good to go.
I know it very well.
Yes, I do.
So, the brackets.
Let's go through this.
We'll bring up the bracket for all of you.
We have, well, Ayatollah Khamenei obviously gets a bye.
He's going to go through to the... That's not the quarterfinals.
That's the Final Eight.
Yeah, so those would be the Final 8.
Elite 8.
Elite 8.
So quarterfinals, whatever.
Okay, so we're going to go through the 16.
Then we will have the Final 8.
Then next installment will be the quarterfinals, the semifinals, and the winner.
Or loser, depending on how you look at it.
Winner?
The people were the losers.
A lot of losers.
Yes.
So the people we have are Ayatollah Khamenei.
We have Mao Zedong.
We're going to be talking about him.
We have Idi Amin.
Am I saying that correctly?
Apparently.
We have Joseph Stalin.
Pinochet is one in there.
We have, of course, Benito Mussolini.
Saddam Hussein.
Nikolai.
Sam from HR, you knew the right way to say his last name.
Ceausescu.
Ceausescu.
I need to meet with Hitler after this is over.
Come on, Yudin!
My office, after the show.
Ceausescu.
Pol Pot.
Mobutu.
I don't know how to say his last name correctly.
Do you know how to say it?
HR Sam probably has it.
Mobutu Sese Seko.
Okay.
Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il, Hugo Chavez, Ferdinand Marcos, and then the underdog, actually, Papa Doc from Haiti, Duvalier, who I should tell you, we are bringing this to you, it's sponsored by DraftDictators.com, the best betting book in all of dictators' betting books, and Papa Doc actually right now does seem to be a plus-2200 underdog.
Yeah, at the very least.
Sounds like a good value.
Yeah, play us a couple bucks, see what happens.
Good return.
I do love a good underdog.
Yeah, well, I don't know if that I would say love.
I love how you played the anthem when he sat down also.
Well, of course.
Thank you.
So first bracket, we're going to go through this.
We have Mao Zedong and Edie Amin.
Let's go through, first off, I guess their body count here.
Let me make sure I have the cross-reference.
All right, because there's a lot of pages of dictators.
If someone actually goes through my hard drive, this is going to be a problem.
Okay.
First, all right, we have Chairman Mao Zedong.
Okay, some history here.
All references are available at lottowithcredit.com.
He was born in Xiaoshan County in the Hunan Province of China.
That's probably like a county in a state, but we don't know because we're not Chinese.
They list him as 5'11", but I don't buy it.
The weight was unknown.
His father was Mao Yuchang, was a farmer and a grain dealer, and then his mom was a Wen homemaker.
He attended Peking University, but he was not formally enrolled and did not graduate.
Researchers, how does that even work?
He just showed up?
The education system in China is very beneficial to the elites.
Xi Jinping went to Tsinghua University and got a doctorate but never actually wrote any papers.
All right, that makes sense.
Obviously the Chinese Communist Party, which effectively still exists to this day.
Accomplishments.
Again, we're not passing judgment here.
We're just looking at this objectively.
And you may not know about all these dictators.
Killed millions of his own people, Mao.
In 1949 he instituted the Laogai prison system, which was actually modeled after the Soviet gulags.
And it was used to transform criminals into new socialist men.
The body count Well, I guess it depends who you use.
These numbers, and I understand that there can be a bit of a spectrum, between 20 and 43 million people.
Do I have that right?
Yeah, that's I think even a low estimate, but it's a good start.
Yeah.
Actually, that's more Hitler.
We might as well give the stats here.
Hitler was 12 million total with the Holocaust, and that includes Holocaust, gays, Jehovah's Witnesses, I don't know what percentage they made up, and Germans with mental deficiencies.
The total number is 12 million.
So Mao is actually far surpassed the Führer.
Well, he didn't get his hands dirty like I did.
Well, I don't know.
Up to four Hitlers.
Yeah, actually that would be four Hitlers.
There you go.
So we would actually rate Mao as far as just the body count, four Hitlers.
And something too that happened, a lot of people, I think the reason they don't teach this in school with
people like Mao and Stalin, we'll get to Stalin in a little bit,
is because of course he's a communist.
And it wasn't just, um, Hitler was a psychopath.
Hitler was a psychop- I'm sorry, Mein Führer, but a psychopath-
These people were sociopaths.
Hitler, obviously, was wrong, but he did in some capacity believe that he was looking out for a very small select group of people, the Aryans, and he thought...
Hitler bad. He thought that the Jews were the problem. He obviously fabricated the idea that
they carried with them communicable diseases. But he wasn't just killing all of his own people for
no reason. Is it a psychopath who's killing someone who is handicapped, mentally deficient?
Yes, absolutely. Sociopath is someone who kills for no reason, just because.
Basically, human life lost, the ends justify the means.
And we see that with some of these dictators, like Mao, like Stalin.
Pol Pot, certainly, as a percentage of the population, was mind-numbing.
And some of it was due to incompetence.
You know, a little thing with Mao that people don't realize, he had no idea, for example, how to farm.
So when you go in and your government takes control over all of the farms, well, guess what happens?
Farming doesn't work very well.
And there was famine.
And he didn't want to take the blame, so he actually blamed the famine on the sparrows at one point.
You guys know this story.
George the Greek knows this story.
You guys can chime in wherever, because you're obviously the professionals.
The Four Pests campaign.
Yes, the pests came in.
He was like, no, it's not potassi, it's sparrow.
You kill a sparrow, you'll have all your crop back.
Armed with scatterguns, nets, and cooking pots, this proud volunteer force set out to
liberate China's skies from the sparrow once and for all.
What happened is, since the sparrows were being killed, the locusts proliferated, and
the famine got worse.
That's the problem with concentrating a lot of power in the hands of one person.
Anyway, I'm trying to think of what else we want to... Oh, he also, of course, got them embroiled in the China-Korean War.
The Great Leap Forward was really what led to the greatest famine that we kind of think of in modern American history.
Death toll, 30 million to 45 million is what we have there.
And the cultural revolution, this is from Stanford University, was millions more.
So the percentage of their population was 6.6%.
That seems pretty bad.
Well, I think we'll see some bigger numbers later.
What do you think?
What do you think, George the Greek?
Well, I mean, he's not the top.
I think he's close.
Yeah.
6.6%.
What?
Remember, China is a very big country.
There's lots of people there.
Yes.
Yeah, and it was a lot of help he got there.
Yeah, he did, well, yeah, people with the pots and pans, you know, they came together.
So there's some community aspects there.
He was married four times, had ten children, which seems like a low number considering four wives back then.
Well, like a lot of daughters probably came and went very quickly.
That's probably quite true.
Okay, so the numbers are being skewed a little bit.
Two of his sons were killed, and one was believed to be schizophrenic, and because of that never entered politics.
But a fun fact, Mal loved swimming.
He's just like us.
Yeah, he's just like you.
I guess.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
If you don't swim, he's really not like you.
So he's probably not like EDM either.
Well, he probably wasn't like all the other dictators.
Well, you know what?
Papa Doc is actually, ooh, now he's down to a plus 1600 favorite.
So for some reason the betting lines from DraftDictators.com have just changed.
He also had an above-ground pool.
He had an above-ground pool.
Nick Tavalo was in the studio.
He was cheap, if nothing else.
Didn't want to pay for the installation.
It's the era of Mussolini.
Yes, yes, yes.
The era of Mussolini.
Ok, so we have Mao Zedong and he is up against Edie Amin.
And Edie Amin, George and Ginger Snap, what do we know about Edie Amin?
I'm going to try and grab these numbers here.
The last king of Scotland.
Oh, that's right, Forrest Whitaker with the lazy eye.
Yes.
We're gonna win!
Alright, he, I mean...
He was a big dude compared to the other dictator.
Yes, he was.
6'4".
He could have been a linebacker if he would have had a better childhood.
Yes, if he had a better childhood.
He wasn't hugged enough.
Idi Amin was of course, this is what we're talking about, Uganda.
Now, I know that you guys probably believe that, you know, the continent of Africa is a land of peace that has never seen any type of conflict before we, from the New World, came in, kidnapped them, and enslaved them.
That's not all correct.
And by that I mean, none of it is.
Still war-torn.
The military is now seeking more cooperation, especially from the locals, to help fight the insurgency.
If you go to Africa today, I don't know if you know, it's not going that well, even in the good parts.
So he was actually president for life.
Uh, he was born in Koboko, Uganda.
225 pounds, 6'4".
Uh, his father, uh, well, occupation unknown.
Um, no formal education, and he's believed to have only attended school up to fourth grade.
So my point is, don't let your education define you.
You can still move on to big things.
Wouldn't say great things.
He, uh, the body count.
What do we have with the body count here for Edie?
It's not as high, 80,000 to 300,000.
But I'm assuming that the reason we have him in here That's nothing!
I'm assuming the reason we haven't been here is because of the abject cruelty, right, Idi Amin?
Yeah, you know, we didn't want to concentrate this all on Asia and Europe.
We wanted to spread the love around a little bit, see what people were doing in, you know, the African subcontinent.
Speaking of which, he actually expelled a lot of Asians and Indians, and I'll repeat myself, which destroyed their economy quite a bit.
Turns out they were quite productive.
in Uganda and these were unforeseen consequences and he uh tortured and killed um his own people
and uh launched uh the Uganda war with Tanzania so that was kind of a big one as far as percentage
of the population 2.5 percent of his total population is who he ended up killing and
so those are rookie numbers that's like that's less than half of Hitler yeah that's yeah he he's
not very favorable in this competition no now something cool about him though because it's not
Oh, very cool.
He's alleged to have fathered 43 children.
Forty-three?
Forty-three children, yeah.
I don't think he got that far with Braun.
He does have the greatest title.
The what?
The greatest title.
Oh, the boxing?
No, just like his official title here.
Oh, read the official title first.
Okay, so Idi Amin officially, His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Ahadj Dr. Idi Amin Dada, V.C., D.S.O., M.C., Lord of all Beasts of Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in general, and Uganda in particular.
Wow, that is a long- Wow!
Sounds like a Will Smith song.
And he did all that before the fourth grade.
If you didn't say his whole title, he killed you.
And the amount of medals he could fit on a jacket is very clear.
It is quite impressive.
I mean, if you look over at this chump, what are we doing, one?
I choose to do this.
He's clean!
He's quality over quantity.
That's that Hugo Boss minimalist look.
I'm clean and green!
Yes, yeah, because if nothing you were eco-friendly.
So I do think that here, actually, this is going to be one of the first rounds.
Again, we have 16 seeds.
I think we all have to give this one to Mao.
Mao Zedong.
Would we all agree?
Mao Zedong is going to move on to the final eight.
Seems like a heavy favorite coming out of round one.
Mao Zedong does seem like a heavy favorite.
No D.E.I.
on this one.
No, no D.E.I.
on this one.
And that's right.
Idi Amin is gone.
No more Idi Amin.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot.
Idi Amin.
Sorry, we have Nick DiPaolo in the studio for whatever reason.
Off camera, too.
Off camera, he was like, no, I want to sit and watch.
I was like, I don't think you want to see this.
and he saw what was going on and said, I think I do.
Idi Amin drank a glass full of his own urine every morning to start off the day.
So the best part of waking up was him and his cup.
64225?
I don't know.
The best part of waking up is pee-pee in your cup!
Well, it must have done him some good because he was the former British Army light heavyweight boxing champion in the 1950s and 1960s.
It's all that piss.
Yeah.
Fourth grade education.
Fourth grade education, drank his own urine, killed at least 80,000 people.
No notes on his swimming ability, but I'll let you make your own inferences.
Uganda.
And, you know, look, it's not really fair because we could have put him up against Pinochet in another bracket and maybe he would have made it through, but that's the nature of doing a tournament.
Life is hard, comes at you fast.
Yes, it does.
Alright, let's...
You don't look around a little bit, you might miss it.
You might miss it.
laughter The Great Dick Toth
The Great Dictator Dikov, everybody.
So let's go through the next brackets, Mein Führer.
We're going to put up on the board, Joseph Stalin is going to be going up against Augusto Pinochet of Chile.
And then underneath that, we will have your old buddy, Benito Mussolini and Saddam Hussein.
I knew Saddam when he was just a baby!
Oh, you meant Stalin.
Joseph Stalin?
No, he was your old rival.
Augusto Pinochet, Benito Mussolini, and Saddam Hussein.
Let's go to Stalin here, actually.
And this is one that, this was the inspiration for this entire charade that you see.
Yeah, you can keep the song a little lower.
I know that we have to respect the poppin' circumstance, but... Might get a copyright strike.
Yeah, we might get a copyright strike.
I think Warner Brothers is big on that.
I'm going to get rid of the pages I'm not using anymore because I don't want this around.
Stalin!
A lot of people, we asked young, they were not familiar with Stalin at all.
And of course that's interesting because Stalin, Hitler, same period of time.
Stalin certainly killed more people.
But if you spend all this time learning about Adolf Hitler in school, you would think that you would learn just as much about Stalin.
Please comment below how much you know about Joseph Stalin, how much you know about what had taken place in Russia back then, and I mean there's a lot of interesting if you want to get into.
Oh yeah, we can get rid of the Ayatollah Khomeini and Mao, because yes, we'll be finishing up that bracket.
And you can place your bets right now at draftdictators.com.
Stalin, of course, you can go back to, um, what was happening there with, uh, with Lenin and with Trotsky and kind of this, this jockeying for power and Stalin was seen as more of a doer, less of an intellectual.
They didn't respect him as much, but of course.
Stupid.
Often when you have men of, of just what they would consider power, um, they'll step over the pseudo intellectuals, but this really, you're just one or two degrees removed from the founder of the feast, Karl Marx.
The two revolutionaries fought the Tsarist regime under pseudonyms.
Joseph Vissarinovich Dugasvili called himself Stalin, the Man of Steel.
He had it all figured out.
And Lev Davidovich Bronstein hid under the name of Leon Trotsky.
It's interesting.
Kind of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
That's what we saw in World War II.
And, of course, that led us into the Cold War.
And, you know, we never really soothed relations with Russia.
Where is Karl Marx from?
Karl Marx?
Well, Karl Marx is German, but he had a major influence, of course, in Russia.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, well, okay, I guess you have your fingerprints on everything.
Like Dominic Strauss-Kahn.
He filled up interns, Dominic Strauss-Kahn.
That was a deep cut.
Let me go to Stalin.
Stalin on his page.
What are we talking here?
What?
Page 12.
Page 12?
I hear it says number 5.
He's a 5-seed.
Oh, he's a 5-seed.
I don't know how he fell to a 5-seed.
That seems like the selection committee was a little bit biased there.
Maybe there was a few Kazakhs in the selection committee that have a lot of a grudge towards him.
People from the Caucasus Mountains?
I don't know why we have them stick their oar in.
They're always trying to.
Caucasus.
Putin would say the same thing.
That's true.
Joseph Stalin was born Loseb Dzhugashvili.
How do I say that?
Dzhugashvili.
It's so disturbing that you have that at the ready, Sam from HR.
I did a report on Stalin when I was in the fifth grade.
Really?
Yes, I did.
I bet you made a lot of friends.
Don't believe him.
Yeah, no, I don't, I don't trust him.
Wait, no, not for the reasons you don't.
Oh.
So he was, uh, surprising to me, only 143 pounds, Joseph Stalin.
And, uh, Joseph Stalin, the body count is what's most significant.
It's 20 million people minimum, Joseph Stalin, which is just, again, that's Let's just rate it.
That's two Hitlers.
That's a full two Hitlers, at least.
At minimum two Hitlers.
And it is estimated that it could be as high as 30 or 40 million, depending on which kind of scholarly articles you would reference.
But at least 20 million.
And of course, this was largely due to, again, the ineptitude of communism, the ineptitude of a top-down approach, and people not really being capable of keeping up with the supply, the demand, farming not working.
This is the utopia that you end up seeing.
And Mao, Stalin, very similar.
We'll get to Pol Pot.
These are people who all followed, really to the letter, the same ideology.
They had different implementations.
Whereas Hitler, kind of, would it be fair to say Hitler was a one-off?
As far as, it wasn't like you had a bunch, I mean, you had Mussolini, of course, but he was just kind of a joke.
Yeah, he was kind of a wannabe.
They sort of used him as a patsy for the higher-ups.
But it's not the same as an idea that really was encroaching across the entire globe.
This was somewhat contained.
You look at these things that have taken place, China, Russia, and a lot of it was happening simultaneously.
Sometimes they sort of passed the baton.
It's the percentage of the population of Russia.
Up to 30% of the population of Russia.
So that, that's compared to Hitler's six.
You're looking at, if we do the math, that's at least four.
We're talking about four Hitlers?
We're gonna round it?
Four Hitlers.
Four Hitlers, Joseph Stalin.
He also helped create the secret police force and his true birth date and leaving for the seminary, leaving the seminary unknown.
So he's a mystery.
Bit of an enigma.
But he sure kicked your ass.
Hey, that is not kind because he had a lot to help.
Yeah, well, I don't... I didn't understand what you just said.
You know what? English is new to me.
Such a little guy too.
I know, I know.
And this is an interesting through line that you see.
He purged the country of, so you see obviously what happened, Hitler bad.
Hitler's terrible, just to be clear.
Hitler's really bad.
And now, he, look.
Very bad.
I'll give you, yeah.
I mean, you know, in your mind, you're so bad, you're good.
To the rest of us, you're just bad.
But you'll see this as a through line.
They would purge their country.
For example, Stalin.
Not, for example, just Jews.
It wasn't just ethnic cleansing.
This is where we've talked about this today, where you see identity politics, right?
It's not just through the lens of race, but you'll see it as oppressors and the oppressed.
With communism it was really about the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, the ruling class, and at that point it was anyone who was, if you're American, upper middle class, you would be seen as ruling class in Russia because everyone else is in a bread line.
So he purged the country of, and I have the list here, not only former landowners, but doctors, academics, and military officials.
That's how that death count balloons out of control.
You create famine, you basically end up creating the perfect petri dish where people can contract these diseases, and you've gotten rid of doctors.
You've gotten rid of medical professionals.
Oh wait, you have famine?
Well who do you think a lot of the former landowners were?
A lot of them were farmers.
When the government steps in and says we're taking your farm, That can be applied to anything.
It could be the government stepping in saying, we're taking your banks, we're taking your manufacturing, we're taking your internet.
You know, you declare something to be a fundamental human right, for example, like access to everyone else's land, guess what?
It's now only the government's right.
And you see that with Stalin and Mao.
Very similar.
That was one thing when we were going through the research.
Very similar, not only in the death, kind of the body count, but what they did and how they approached it.
Yeah, like you said, it's the original DEI, the original identity politics.
The identity slightly changed to where we are now, but it's the exact same methodology, it's the exact same ideology that's pervading.
That always ends up the same with Mao and Stalin, with millions of people dying.
Right, yeah.
Now, we have another one to go with Stalin, and this is one that you may hear more often, because the left likes to parrot this, because it's kind of one fascist who they point to, who actually was right-wing.
I'll give you that.
And that's Augusto Pinochet.
I want to be very, very clear, just as clearly as I have said Hitler bad.
Pinochet, bad.
In most ways.
Right?
But can we all agree that he wasn't all wrong?
Pinochet!
Who was he killed again?
Margaret Thatcher loved him.
Can I, can I get a, can I get a little, can I get a little what?
Little bit for Pinochet?
Now, let me clarify here.
Uh, Pinochet, he was, uh, really his education was the Chilean Military Academy.
And, uh, I'm sorry, I just forgot.
Who was the name of the man who he, uh, he preceded?
Allende?
Allende.
Allende.
Yeah.
Allende.
Was it like, it was, uh, Giorg- I forgot the middle name.
It's like something Giorgiondo, Fernando.
Salvador Allende.
Salvador, but he had a middle name.
He had a middle name.
There was a Salvador something or was it Salvador Orlando Allende?
He was a communist, just to be clear.
Now, this is pretty interesting.
Guillermo?
Salvador Guillermo.
Salvador Guillermo.
His name is my name too.
Also, I, too, at one point was thrown from a helicopter, but I lived because I'm a deity.
That's another through line you'll see today.
Chile was really one of those countries that was very, very poor.
And if you look today, if you go to Chile, you'll still have a lot of people who actually say, you know what, we kind of would like a Pinochet-like figure today.
And the reason for that is this was a country that was basically under the rule of socialism, communism.
Pinochet did come in, take advantage of a coup, and he did kill people.
But he wasn't, on a large scale, targeting citizens.
He was targeting communists.
He was targeting people who he believed had actually destroyed the economy.
Now, of course, did he embezzle millions of dollars?
Yes.
Because, you know what?
At that point, you know, you're gonna get yours.
So he got some of his embezzled $28 million.
Again, not good.
I just don't know that we can compare him necessarily to Stalin.
The body count is really only 3,000 people.
people.
3,000 people.
3,000 people.
Who wants to say, M-O-B, money over bodies.
Well, he did get some money, but a lot of these people were former Communist Party heads.
They would go on a helicopter ride and just never come back.
Labor unions.
Yes, labor unions.
And then 130,000 people were arrested.
They were put in jail without due process.
Allegedly, 35,000 people were tortured.
But as far as percentage of his population with Pinochet, 0.2%.
That doesn't even show up on our Hitler radar.
Never heard of the guy.
And something else for a dictator.
What was that?
I heard someone stomping.
I said he should be ashamed.
Oh, okay.
Such looser numbers.
Well, here's another thing too with a dictator.
I don't think we have anyone else here who stepped down from power.
In our brackets.
In the 1990s, he stepped down, but he was a senator for life from 1998 to 2002.
So this is kind of what ended up happening.
He, Allende, tried to transition this Chilean economy to a Marxist-Leninist one.
And people were starting to reject it, and people were becoming impoverished.
People were definitely starving, and Pinochet came in and said, we're not going to do that anymore.
Corruption?
Yes.
Yes.
Fascist?
Yes.
But if you look during that period of time they were calling it the Chilean experiment because it was now becoming one of the most successful, one of the wealthiest countries in all of South America.
And that largely happened as far as citizens, business owners, not everyone.
He did help pick winners and losers and of course that's wrong and corrupt but it certainly was more of a free market economy than before and he was targeting people who he viewed and sometimes selected in a corrupt way those who would be interfering with the private exchange of
goods and services.
So I fascist yeah I don't really know that it's fair to put him in dictator
here. So it's kind of like the Jamie Kennedy experiment?
Sure that's a day That's a dated reference, but it's in between your dates and today, so I don't know how you... Did you get MTV in the bunker?
Did you?
I'm trying to see what else we have.
Oh yeah, the reforms, by the way, from Pinochet.
They did cut hyperinflation, which was near 400% in the early 70s, to single digits by the 1980s.
So, I'm not a fan.
Not a fan.
Their GDP increased 5% annually for a while.
But I think if you're comparing Pinochet and Stalin, I just, I think there's no comparison.
One doesn't even show up with the Hitler meter.
So, um, let's move on.
Joseph Stalin.
Pinochet is knocked out.
You do see a lot of, uh, similarities in Pinochet's approach to Javier Mille's now, but you kind of get the good without the, you know, the helicopter rides.
Yes, I mean there could be some, we don't know.
But the economic liberalization and making the government smaller, it's very similar in the way they're approaching similar economic situations with hyperinflation and unemployment and all that.
Yes, and I do think that Chile is very, it's interesting to compare, we actually probably should have put them in the same bracket, but to Hugo Chavez.
Or Chavez, you have a place like Venezuela that has all kinds of economic advantages.
I mean, oil-rich nation, and drives it into poverty.
As opposed to Chile, where it was in poverty, and for whatever, mostly bad, Pinochet did bring it out of the dark ages, economically.
And so that's where you have people today say, you know what, not all of it was bad.
If you go to Chile.
They might have to mutter it, quietly, but you have to, in a lot of South American countries, your choice is communist guerrillas, or fascists sometimes.
Unfortunately.
It's not good, but that's the reality.
And Pinochet, we had... Oh, Benito Mussolini!
That's your old buddy.
Benito... You have page 17 for Mussolini.
Hey, the Italians are in the house!
Pfft!
Yeah?
Hahaha!
Remember when you didn't want to be on my team?
I brought him over.
We did a trade.
So, Benito Mussolini, 5'6", 154 pounds.
His dad was a blacksmith.
His mother was a school teacher.
He attended the University of Lausanne in Switzerland.
Am I saying that right, Sam from HR?
I believe so.
Yeah, good.
Thank you.
Thanks for the input.
See what I was talking about?
Yeah.
In return, punch me.
It is you, fun fact with Mussolini.
Fun fact with Mussolini.
Stabbed a pupil with a knife and attacked a teacher at a boarding school.
And he's 5'6", he's basically a human Chucky doll.
Showed promise early.
He did, he showed promise early.
I've told you this, look, crazy beats big most times.
And so Mussolini had that going for him.
Uh, the Italian fascist party, it was his party, he, and this is something that's pretty interesting, right?
People say, fascist, what did he impose in Italy?
Socialism.
Socialism in Italy.
They try and separate, if you actually run a Google search, I don't know what the definition is right now, they'll say socialism, communism, they won't tell you that it's necessarily left-wing.
Once upon a time, at least on Google, and I believe they even changed it with Miriam Webster, fascism was inherently right-wing.
Well, hold on a second, we've just gone through a bunch of dictators and fascists, and we'll continue to go through them.
Most of them are communists or socialists.
I think the only exception, as far as truly being right-wing as we would know, would probably be Pinochet, right?
Compared to, I mean, I know if we're talking about EDM in, but let's be honest, the guy didn't make it past the fourth grade.
These are decidedly leftist policies.
These are decidedly leftist policies, which cannot be enacted if not for fascism.
Body count from Mussolini.
What we have here is about 2,000 political opponents killed, 25,000 killed or maimed in the Second Italo-Ethiopian War, and of course you have the soldiers killed during World War II, so the percentage of the population is 2%.
So again, we're talking about, that's, I mean, that's less than a third of a Hitler.
0.3 Hitler, yeah.
Yeah.
He was like a little Hitler.
Pretty good math.
A little one.
He was, yeah, it's a very small, it wouldn't even show up on our Hitler scale.
Yes, he was sort of a sad character, Mussolini, right?
During World War II, they kind of would go, yeah, we need someone out there, Mussolini.
And then they just threw him under the bus as soon as they had to.
He wasn't very respected.
Kind of wrong place, wrong time.
Threw him right under the Panzer.
Yes, we did.
You did.
Overrated!
And after he was shot with his mistress, who was Claretta Patesci, they were strung up by their feet on April 28th, 1945 in a square in Milan, and then they were disfigured by an angry mob.
Nice.
Yeah.
You know, they got theirs finally.
I guess someone finally heard the people.
So Mussolini against, oh, this is a good one, Saddam Hussein.
And this is interesting because Saddam Hussein It depends on the Saddam to whom you're referring.
It depends on a different era in history.
At one point was seen as sort of an ally to the United States, and then of course became, I don't want to say ally, one point was useful.
And this is important too, as we go throughout history, you'll see the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
And people will try and use that to paint the United States as the only corrupt nation.
But if you look at all these dictators, they too had alliances that really were completely inconsistent if you add it up over time.
So Saddam Hussein, 6'2", 190, that's a good size for a dictator.
Yeah.
You get the best food, so we would expect to be a little bigger than the population.
That's a cruiserweight.
You know, when they found him in his little hole, in his hole in the ground, he had Marvel comic books, and he had Raisin Bran Crunch.
Not Raisin Bran.
Raisin Bran Crunch.
Which, by the way, is far better than Raisin Bran.
It's an entirely different cereal.
Who do you think he was, his favorite superhero?
I think he actually liked Captain America.
No!
Yes, he did.
No!
He did.
He liked the Avengers.
I would have guessed Black Panther.
No, I think he was also probably racist.
So, of course, the death of hundreds of thousands of people, Saddam Hussein.
He was a law school dropout, I should tell you.
So there's really no rhyme or reason if you're looking for a through line with education.
Some only made it to the fourth grade, some were educated in Switzerland, and some just kind of went to law school, you know, like law schools, like a phase, you know, like art for you, or torn Levi's for some.
Yeah, that was a lifelong passion, but Yeah, yeah, but not schooling necessarily.
So he was involved in obviously both Gulf Wars, the Iran-Iraq War, and tortured and killed hundreds of thousands of his own citizens.
As far as the body count with Saddam Hussein, believed to be about 750,000.
Again, this is tough because a lot of different sources have different accounts.
That's 3.9% of the population.
So that's about half a Hitler.
It's about half a Hitler.
Yeah.
It's about half a Hitler.
Und he had a specific enemy, the Kurds.
Yeah, we did have an enemy, the Kurds.
Yes, that's true.
And they, uh, by the way, a lot of people don't realize this.
A lot of people in the Middle East, of course, the Arabic world, big, big, big allies to the Nazis because they too didn't like the Judens.
No, no, they don't like them.
No.
Did you hear that?
Never mind.
They killed one.
Who?
What?
Never mind.
Okay, sorry.
Secret Hitler business.
Okay, secret Hitler business, yeah.
I guess you had to be there.
Yeah, I guess.
Well, you probably took that with you to Argentina.
Until Tim Kennedy found you.
Allegedly.
Saddam was a distant, fun fact, trivia here, very distantly related to Muhammad by his lineage.
What?
Draw him.
Wrong?
Draw.
What do you mean?
Mohammed.
Oh, draw?
Don't do it.
No, I'm not.
Oh, I thought you said it was a draw, like it was a draw, like as far as worse, just because it related to Mohammed.
I just know your prevalence to want to draw the prophet.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I haven't.
I've never drawn the prophet.
I'm just trying to.
Bob Ross did, and we've never, we've not had him on the show again.
Good point.
Yeah, we've never had him on the show again, one time, one more time, but it wasn't, I told him, you dick, hey, I don't give a shit about your estate.
I said, you take that on down the road, Mr. Ross.
Well, if at all possible, please avoid drawing the Prophet Muhammad or other religious figures or deities.
No, I absolutely will not.
If at all possible.
I get it.
I understand.
So, he was related to Muhammad via the lineage of the Albu Nasir tribe.
And, of course, that was, I guess the founder of Saddam's tribe was the son of Muhammad's daughter, Fatima.
Alright, there you go.
And I think I may have, I don't know who I drew here, but you guys can just make a little inference.
It's just a stick figure with, you know, he's got thick hair.
So, Saddam Hussein and Benito Mussolini.
I've got to say, And of course we have DraftDictator.com.
I would say that Saddam should maybe move through just because of a much longer reign.
Yeah, longevity has to be taken into account.
It has to be taken into account, right?
It does account for something.
I would say, you guys disagree?
You know what?
We can forgive the numbers a little.
I mean, they don't keep records like the Germans, so it could be a little bit more.
Compared to who's more consequential, I would say Saddam Hussein left a bigger mark than Mussolini.
Well, feet first is a reason because of him, I think.
Yes, yes, that's right.
I don't have a degree.
With Saddam?
No.
What?
Mussolini.
He's Italian.
What's the knife incident?
Of course you're Italian.
What is it, Nick?
Yeah, we talked about that.
We said he showed promise.
Yeah.
No, it does weigh for something, but I don't think that has the same global impact as Saddam's, you know, three wars.
I mean, he tried to stab his teacher with a butter knife.
It's shitty.
Well, it wasn't.
I'm exaggerating.
Could have been the edge of a ruler.
You ever do that when you were a kid?
Take out the metal edge of your ruler?
Or a protractor.
No, protractor.
Yeah, protractor.
That was giving kids weapons.
This is a tough one.
Mussolini and Saddam.
I'm going to say Saddam should probably move on just because of how long his sort of reign went on.
And he was propped up by other people who saw him as a useful idiot.
Two kind of useful idiots, actually.
Yes, yes, they had a mural.
So I will say, I think Saddam, anyone?
You think Mussolini?
Yeah, no one starved to death in Italy, let's be real.
Well, you're Greek, so I would have thought you'd want to... Also, I helped!
Well, that's the thing, he was riding Hitler's coattails, Mussolini.
Yeah, he was riding the coattails, Mussolini.
You guys can comment below on who you think should be making it in.
Who, Mussolini?
No, no, I understand.
I'm a cool guy.
I understand.
That's a bad law.
That's a bad law.
That's a big law, let's be real.
Come on, it's tough to do.
So, you know what?
We're going to move Saddam Hussein on to the Final Eight.
The bracket's really shaping up.
The bracket's really shaping up.
So the next... No, no, no.
You're not... Your job's not done, Chancellor.
Yeah!
The next two brackets are Nikolai Ko... Kochescu?
Shochescu.
Shochescu.
And Pol Pot.
Uh-oh.
Who, by the way, I think Pol Pot may win this entire thing.
I'm not going to lie to you.
A lot of people... How much do you know about Pol Pot?
And this is a good time to comment.
How much do you know about these dictators and their history and their reigns?
A lot of people don't know about anyone other than this guy right here.
This guy is handsome.
I got an update on DraftDictators.com.
Paul Pott entered at a 10-1.
He entered a 10-1.
And I don't know word on Papa Doc right now, but you can go and check the betting line.
Papa Doc obviously is the dark horse in all of this.
That's a guy from 8 Mile, yeah?
Literally.
Yes, yes he is.
And then the other bracket is going to be Mobutu and Fidel Castro.
Mobutu!
I was more of a fan of Mabu 3.
And who else?
Fidel Castro.
God.
That is a good beard.
Yes.
Okay.
Good.
Not my style.
So this is the one I'm probably least familiar with.
It took me... I had to spend some time with this.
And I can never... Ceausescu?
Ceausescu?
How am I saying it Sam from HR?
Ceausescu.
Ceausescu.
Alright.
And you guys are probably more familiar with him.
Who's the big Nikolai fan here?
HR Sam.
The only Nikolai I like is Cage.
He is a national treasure.
So Sam from HR, what is it that you admire about Nikolai?
Well, I have an unrequited dream that I would have a cult of personality with me, being that people see me as unremarkable.
Nicolae Ceausescu, when he was the dictator of Romania, plastered his face and his image on everything.
He also tried to enrich himself a lot, though, so he exported a lot of agricultural products from Romania to other countries, which unfortunately killed thousands of his own people.
Yes, it did.
It was an unfortunate result.
Wait, I'm sorry, did you just say that you view yourself as, like, a kindred spirit with him because you said you're unrem... Because, like, Nicolae was really good-looking.
Um, I don't, I think I look a little better than, uh, Trichescu, you know?
My, uh, my hair is still, uh, brown, and, um, I don't know, kind of, I can cut a dashing figure.
Okay.
It's looking a little grey.
Okay.
Um, and that.
Alright!
No!
But also, one fact about Nikolai.
Yes, Nick DiPaolo's in the corner.
He invented the t-shirt game.
He invented the t-shirt game?
This guy's funny!
laughter laughter
laughter laughter
Well Mobutu invented the giant foam hand!
laughter We are number two!
That's what they said.
laughter I don't know if I'm so glad that we went with this bit, or
if it's one of my life's deepest regrets.
Only time will tell.
Only time will tell.
Tim, is this guy's a wireless remote?
What?
Is it a wireless microphone?
Oh, yes.
By the way, Toolman, Timmy, Cecilian, he has a sickle cell gene we found out.
It's true.
Thank God you dodged that bullet, though, because I would have been passed down and you're good.
You're safe.
Yeah.
All right.
Sorry.
Back to Nikolai, however you pronounce, of Romania.
The body count from Nikolai is 60,000, right?
60,000 people, Sam, from HR?
Yes, that's how many he's believed to have killed.
Although, as you know, the communists aren't good record keepers.
Right.
Well, that's true.
And also, of course, this ties into the eco-movement.
This is why you may not necessarily know about a lot of these people.
Had some policies on population growth.
Well, in this case, did he want them to breed more?
Yes, he believed that they had an obsession with more Romanians and children are the future of the country.
However, it got out of control.
You had, of course, with famine and other things going on, led to a lot of, unfortunately, a lot of orphans in Romania.
And after Ceaușescu was deposed in the late 80s, the population actually went down because people were trying to get the hell out of Romania.
Well, that makes sense, because I think he was the only person who said the world needs more Romanians.
Isn't Andrew Tate in Romania?
He's in Romania now, yeah.
But apparently they have good delivery.
They have probably some more orphans.
And of course that's a little bit of a backlash, too.
If you look at a lot of communist nations, they believe in curbing population quite a bit, which we'll get to.
The communist regimes, of course, as you see in China, which led to the one-child policy.
So then you have smaller countries like Romania where they say, you know what, we'll what we want to have more Romanians and just the unforeseen
consequences.
Whether it's famine because you get rid of all the farmers or whether it's just
hey all you people better start get to fornicating next thing you know it's not
sustainable. I love that show curb your population. Yeah well communists are
climate change heroes.
Yes, communists are climate change heroes because they get rid of, I mean, a lot of carbon.
That's one less carbon isotope, if I'm using that correctly.
Yes.
And he built the massive People's Palace as his residence in Bucharest.
The building is 276 feet tall.
It has 3.9 million squares of floor space.
Wow.
Square feet of floor space.
I said squares, but square feet of floor space.
In Romania.
That's like a third of the country.
So we have him and of course we have Fidel.
Fidel Ca- no wait, sorry.
Yeah, now we have Mobutu and C.C.
Seiko.
Okay, we have to get to Mobutu, sorry.
Where's Mobutu?
Which page is it?
Well, we got Pol Pot right now.
Oh, I didn't do Pol Pot, I'm sorry.
You've been looking forward to that.
I've been looking to Pol Pot for a while.
How much do you know about- and by the way, I don't like Pol Pot, just like Hitler bad.
Just to be clear, Hitler is bad and Pol Pot is bad.
We say looking forward because I think so many people don't- have you heard the term, the killing fields?
That's Pol- that's Pol Pot.
He was the worst of the worst, and we'll get to... I don't know if it was the highest as far as percentage of population.
Yeah.
It is definitively the highest, was Pol Pot, so obviously... And something else too, before Pol Pot, there were areas of Cambodia that had resorts where people like Frank Sinatra, the Rat Pack, would go down.
It was sort of seen as the crown jewel of Asia in a lot of ways, Cambodia.
Love those guys.
What was that?
Love those guys.
Yeah.
Well, you know what?
You're not going to like how this turns out.
Pol Pot, Cambodia.
They list him as 5'9", but let's be honest, that's like professional wrestling stats.
That's inflated.
His father, ironically, was a farmer, and his mother, we don't really know a whole lot about his mother, had some distant connections with the royal family.
He graduated through Roman Catholic Primary School, then he went to France on an engineering scholarship after the war.
And of course, the political party, you guys probably only know this in relation to the Vietnam War, the Khmer Rouge, right?
And that helped create an environment with a lot of instability as far as Cambodia.
Right, it was sort of embarrassing to the United States what had been allowed to flourish,
you know, sort of in the, I guess I should say in the, in the, uh, the tailwind of the Vietnam War.
And that's a big part of what led to, uh, the Pol Pot.
There's an argument to be made, and I'll make it.
Yeah.
That Henry Kissinger is directly responsible for the rise of Pol Pot.
A lot of people have made that argument.
Do you think so?
I don't think killing 150,000 Cambodian civilians for no gain did little to inspire the people to rise up around kind of that revolutionary force.
And what was the reason for Kissinger?
Well, he thought that's where the South Vietnamese insert, like the communist sympathizers and then the North Vietnamese Viet Cong, they thought they were kind of taking refuge in Cambodia.
So he carpet bombed the absolute shit out of Cambodia.
Yes, he did.
Yeah, I know that guy.
How is he doing?
Mr. Kissinger?
Yeah.
He doesn't look well.
Oh.
It's too bad, yeah.
He instituted Pol Pot, the year zero policy, which killed a huge portion of the population.
And year zero, to explain to you what this was, this was kind of trying to completely get rid of, it was replace old Cambodia with new Cambodia.
What was new Cambodia?
A communist utopia with Pol Pot.
It was, nope, we're going to do things completely different.
So you would think, oh, Vietnam, Kissinger, people trying to fight, you know, if you're talking about Vietnam, well, then you just end up creating these super communists.
So he came to power there.
Cambodians from towns, cities, they were completely expelled to work in the countryside.
This is something that they don't often tell you about socialism and about communism.
When you look at it historically put into practice, it relies on a very, very robust workforce and you do the job that you are told to do.
Doesn't matter if you have an aptitude for it.
You go out there and you start farming.
Oh, wait a second.
You're a professor?
Now you're a farmer.
And he specifically would target people who he viewed as intellectuals, because he saw them as largely useless in a communist society.
They want a society effectively of serfs.
They want a society of people who will do the work that the people in positions of power tell them to do.
Money, private property, religion, all abolished.
That's another through line you'll see with communist fascist dictators.
People say religion is the cause of all wars.
We'll add up the death count here and it's pretty obvious that that's not the case.
I mean, human beings will, there'll be conflict no matter what.
They'll fight over land, they'll fight over resources.
Sure, sometimes it's religion.
Sometimes it's ideas that can be secular, like communism versus capitalism.
But you do see with Mao, with people like Stoltz, with Pol Pot, these were people who
had deeply held hatred for traditional, what you would view as traditional Christian values
of the Western world.
Intellectuals were targeted, so teachers, lawyers, doctors, and something else, he would
send you out to the fields, which basically was a death sentence if you were a lawyer,
for example.
He would also target people who wore glasses, which brings me to another point with Pol Pot.
He didn't even try to hide that he was an idiot.
He just, glasses?
Oh, people will assume you're smart.
Let's send you out.
Let's vilify people with glasses.
Sort of like the old stereotype.
Nerd.
Glasses.
He actually implemented that as policy.
You wear glasses, you're going out to the killing fields.
I don't know how many people know about that.
That, to me, blew my mind when I heard about that and thought, why didn't I learn about this in school?
Especially considering that I wore glasses.
What about during the solar eclipse?
I have no idea.
I don't know if they had them back then.
But that would have been a welcome respite if they were working out in the killing fields, I would imagine.
Is this before context?
Yes, this is before.
I don't know how he treated people with astigmatism, but I would imagine he was none too kind.
And there were the, obviously, the mass graves.
That's the killing fields.
This is something else.
The killing fields were home to something known as the killing tree, which was where they killed babies and children.
And this is something else, too.
When you start creating a communist utopia, Everything relies on a, like we said, a top-down approach.
And now it just becomes about efficiency, where violence is fine.
It's just a means to an end.
And if you are not fit, if they see you as being a burden or a drain on the system, at a certain point they say, we've got to remove the drains.
We've got to remove the burdens.
Why?
This is a big difference too between a free enterprise, where people say, get your slice of the pie.
In free enterprise, you can bake more pies.
For example, one point, really, Ford was the only person providing any kind of an automobile.
Before that, we were talking about the horse and buggy.
Then you get a few different companies.
Now you have Tesla.
Now you have more... These are new pies that have been baked, that have created new methods of employment that, really, through innovation, is how we've solved a lot of our first world problems.
A lot of these people are still in the third world.
And they're in the third world because you can't bake any more pies.
There's a fixed amount of pie.
We're not innovating.
This is a communist nation.
You see this really clearly with Cambodia.
And so, hold on a second, there's only so much to go around.
Let's start killing the babies who may have disabilities.
Let's start killing the children who we think we can no longer support.
And this is why there's a difference between a psychopath and a sociopath.
Hitler didn't just kill babies for the sake of it.
It wasn't just violence.
He actually deeply, personally, he didn't have a stomach for violence.
Does not Hitler bad.
Hitler absolutely terrible.
But he had created in his mind an environment where Jews were subhuman.
These were seen as enemies.
It's the difference between fighting a war.
Now this is a psychopath.
He's warped it in his mind where he's at war with Jews and a percentage of the population, right?
Fighting a war versus murdering your own family in their sleep.
That's what you see with some of these communist regimes.
It really is sick where you're not even able to understand necessarily the mindset behind it unless you read Karl Marx.
Unless you read Lenin.
Unless you understand the ideology and go, oh, throw more bodies at it.
That's fine because it's for the greater good.
The greater good is not to protect your nation.
The greater good is simply to create a utopia no matter how many people die.
And Pol Pot really didn't care about that.
Pol Pot was a sadist.
And as far as the body count, 30 million people, Pol Pot.
That's 30% of his population.
Wow.
30% of his population.
Think about that.
In 4 years.
In 4 years.
Very short amount of time.
What's the math on that as far as how many Hitlers?
Almost 3, right?
No, it's more.
36?
No, it's about 4.
No, 6 times 6 is 36.
Oh, I was talking about the body count.
It's like almost 5.
4-5.
Call it 4 and a half Hitlers.
Four and a half Hitlers.
I'm forgetting the Hitler number.
I believe it was six per six point something percent.
You were shown up there by a tiny Cambodian.
Well, good for him.
There is a lot of parallels with today, by the way, when we talk about this year zero thing.
Look at the education, how big cities are getting rid of specialized schools.
Exceptionalism is bad.
Everybody's got to be the same at the lowest rung.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Same thing, I mean, you apply to education what you apply to the economy.
It's, hey, we're all the same.
Well, yeah, we're all poor.
We're all struggling in bread lines, or as Bernie Sanders referred to it, a good thing.
So his real name actually, Salaf Zar, or Sar, means white, pale.
Right?
That's true, Sam from HR, because of his complexion at birth, and then Pol Pot means original Cambodian.
So, I think it's pretty clear here, Pol Pot's going to be going through, but let's get to, so you can do it all at once, I don't want to have to keep getting up and sitting down and getting up and sitting down.
Okay.
You've been on your feet for a long time, so I'd imagine you're quite tired.
We'll go to... It's a fear that never gets tired.
It's a fear that never gets tired, that's what I've heard.
Also got 11 holes-in-one in golf.
I've been doing meth all morning.
11 holes-in-one.
He's been doing meth all morning.
Well, you know what, that's what they... I'm freaking wired, man!
That's what they had... And they mixed it with... What were you thinking?
You mixed it with morphine and heroin.
It's a good time.
Because at the German speedball.
Yeah, well, I guess it finally hurt you.
We call that a wienerwurst.
That's not what you call it.
That's not what you called it.
We call it that.
Okay.
Who am I to judge?
Who am I?
I don't know.
I don't know what they called it.
I'm not up to date with the old-timey Nazi drug nomenclature.
You really should brush up on your research.
I really should brush up.
Mobutu.
Mobutu.
His name, you're gonna like this, George Greek, all-powerful warrior who, because of his endurance and inflexible will to win, goes from conquest to gonquest, leaving fire in his wake.
That's what his name, because it's Mabutu Sese Seko Nkud Nkud Nbendu Waza Banga, which just sounds made up, if it means all that.
I like names that are direct and to the point.
Yes.
I need my little, little orphan dictator decoder pen.
Yeah, Pol Pot cuts right to the chase.
Pol Pot cuts right to the chase.
If nothing else, you know... What was his real name, Pol Pot?
Uh, it meant, uh, white and pale.
Sloth Sarr?
Sloth Sarr.
Yeah, Sloth Sarr.
It was, uh, Pol Smoker Pothead.
Hey!
Hey!
Jealousy?
This guy thinks he's better than me?
Well, I don't think... No, we think he's better than you.
What were you saying there, George?
I said it sounds like a little jealousy there.
Yeah, it does sound like it.
By the way, every time the Chancellor speaks, the researchers do this.
You can't see them off camera.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd make a living like this.
So, uh, the political, I mean, I don't, Mobutu, we just kind of had to put him in here to
fill out the bracket.
He embezzled between four billion and fifteen billion dollars during his quote-unquote reign.
And he set the development of the country back by a century.
I'm trying to think of what, when his era was.
What was it?
Mid-90s?
Well, 90s.
This is what people need to understand too.
This is post, you know, Zaire, right?
Muhammad Ali went and he was in Zaire.
That was a big deal right there.
Ali!
Bombay!
Ali!
Bombay!
Was that Zaire?
Was that Foreman?
Yeah.
Foreman or was it one of the sequels to Joe Frazier?
But they rumble in the jungle at times?
Was that Zaire?
One was Thrilla in the Manila.
Zaire was, yeah, rumble in the jungle.
And then Thrilla in the Manila was the Philippines.
Then there was the fight of the century, I believe it was the third fight.
The second fight between him and Joe Frazier.
So they were yelling to George Foreman, Alibaba, kill him.
Right?
They wanted him to kill George.
So they went to Zaire.
They had this fight.
You would think, hey, a relatively modern Oh, by the way, here's a fun fact.
of the world. And then this happens after. Mobutu happens after and 3 million people
are killed. That's 10,000% of his population. Sorry, 10%, not 10,000.
10,000 Mao.
10%. I'm not good with...
That's like 600 Hitlers.
I'm not good with math. We'll get to Mao in a little bit.
And, oh, by the way, here's a fun fact. His mistress was the twin sister of his second
wife. A little bit of Ilan Omar action going on there.
Except not as bad, if you can believe it.
Hers is straight.
It was directly her brother.
Alright, so in these brackets right here, I think Pol Pot definitely moves on.
Sorry, Nikolai.
Oh, I forgot.
Fidel Castro.
Fidel Castro.
Everybody's favorite or something.
Don't forget the groovin' Cuban!
Yep, we cannot forget the groovin' Cuban.
Trudeau's favorite.
Yep, Trudeau's favorite.
We should play a game Castro, Trudeau, or Liam Neeson character.
It's very hard to tell them apart.
Tall for a dictator.
First off, let's give credit where it's due.
6'3", 176 pounds.
That's not bad.
Law school graduate, University of Havana, and of course, the Communist Party of Cuba.
Now a lot of people don't know that the way was paid for Castro by all those stupid, dumb t-shirts you wear from Rage Against the Machine.
Che Guevara.
So people say he was a revolutionary man, but a revolution... Okay, the revolution led to what?
Well, of course, led to what we have with Fidel Castro.
Cuba, at one point in time, was a very, very wealthy nation that, of course, was just driven into abject poverty.
Not saying Batista was great, to be clear, before people say this.
He basically turned Cuba into a prison.
Pretty much the island of Cuba became a prison.
He started, actually, as far as his accomplishments, largest snitch network in the world, where he had the committees for the defense of the revolution.
I guess 8.4 million of the 11 million Cubans were members, and this was one big giant snitching network, right, George?
Yes.
That would be a good way to describe it.
Yeah, tattletales.
And nobody likes them.
He sent Cuban soldiers into the Cold War conflicts, obviously.
Not a huge, necessarily, body count, to be clear, Fidel Castro.
It's a little bit tough to track because the nation was just driven into absolute poverty.
And that would lead to more deaths than you would actually have.
Directly, 11,000, though, right?
I think is what's attributed to Fidel Castro, is 11,000, which is 0.1%.
That doesn't even show up on the U-scale.
No.
Something else, though, that is some interesting things.
First off, he fathered Justin Trudeau, and he survived 600 assassination attempts.
Wow.
Castro.
And this is a perfect example of Castro and Cuba, of what communism is.
It's really, it's like, and let me use the analogy, and women, before you get mad, it's like a woman having a breast reduction.
No.
It's like slapping God in the face.
That's my point, yeah.
So what you have with Cuba is you have really sort of the birthplace of the modern tobacco trade, right?
You hear people talk about Cuban cigars.
This is a good example of what communism does.
Cuban cigars at one point in time, yeah, they would be the best in the world.
It would make sense.
There's something in the soil that can't be recreated.
I believe some people say it's the lithium content.
There is a flavor that is unique to Cuban cigars.
It's the blood.
It could be.
What was that, Nick?
It's political prisoner bone dust.
It could be.
It could be the marrow that would lead to a higher, I believe, cadium content?
I don't know.
I'm not a mineralogist, if that's a term.
But the cigars have a very specific taste.
So people, they would seek out these cigars.
Now what happened is, you don't get to keep your crops in Cuba, of Cuban cigars.
As a matter of fact, you're more likely to get a fake cigar in Cuba Then you ought to get a real Cuban cigar in Cuba.
Why?
What happens is the government takes over all these tobacco fields.
Some farmers are allowed to keep maybe five to ten percent of their crops.
All of these tobacco leaves go into a couple of government-run warehouses, factories.
Boom.
They roll them out, and now you have your Cuban cigars.
And what happens is these cigars, as far as the quality control in comparison to some of the seeds that have been taken to the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Nicaragua, they're great cigars.
But they don't have that same taste as Cuba, but the quality control is leagues better.
You buy a box of Cuban cigars, they'll be plugged, you'll have green tobacco because they don't have time to age it properly, and they'll develop mold.
Some people call it plume.
That's a myth too.
Plume is just a smaller kind of, it's just a less severe kind of mold.
You can brush it off technically, but there's no such thing as cigar plume.
That's a myth.
It's mold.
So, and that's because they don't freeze their tobacco.
They flash freeze them in other countries.
You look at Cuban cigars, and it's something that should be, it's an advantage that this nation has, that only this nation has, that can't really be identified or recreated.
And they have turned it to crap.
Where Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, and Honduras have taken them over as far as quality of the cigars.
You have to work hard to screw that up.
It's something that grows, you roll it, and you smoke it.
It has to be done by someone who is completely inept.
It can only be the byproduct, the destruction of the Cuban cigar trade, really.
It could be done no other way outside of communism.
And that's what you see.
It's a small example, but it's one that maybe you can understand.
Also, Che Guevara was a sadist.
He broke down one of the walls in his office so he could watch the firing squad at work.
Hated black people and shot handicaps and gays.
So enjoy your t-shirts, you pricks.
Let's... Killin' in the name of... Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I love how he rages against the machine and then endorsed Biden.
Such as gay.
Brevity is the soul of wit, Mein Fuhrer.
So Pol Pot moves on, for sure.
Let's move on, Pol Pot.
And Fidel Castro is going to make it into the final eight.
All the Africans going out in the first round?
I mean, you know, look.
They have to step up their game.
Africa?
I get it, it's a continent.
Not the best.
Not the best.
Sheer brutality, maybe.
Well, if we're looking at genocide specifically and not dictators, they might... They might be up there.
Yeah, if this was March Madness, different story.
I kind of feel like this is just whatever month this is madness at this point.
Okay, final two brackets.
Kim Jong-il, Hugo Chavez, Ferdinand Marcos, and Papadok Duvalier.
So the first one is Kim Jong-il and Hugo Chavez, and the second bracket is Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines and Papadok of Haiti.
Again, I believe the betting lines are changing as we've narrowed this down.
Papadok is now only a plus 1100.
He went from $1,600 to $1,100.
$1,100.
So it's still an underdog, but you get a good return on your money.
You got live odds?
That's unbelievable.
We do.
Yeah, well, draftdictator.com.
It's for all your dictator betting needs.
Ferdinand Marcos.
Hey, Ginger Snap, why don't you help me with this one, because you like Asians, and I'm not as familiar with Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines.
Yeah, I mean, he wasn't The worst, you know.
He kind of improved the economy.
He's still a hero to a lot of the older Filipinos there today.
It's an accomplishment at 5'6".
He has a weird legacy, sort of like Pinochet in Chile, right?
Where he was very brutal with his opposition, but he was also seen by a lot of Filipinos as improving the economy and the stature of the country.
But he was very Interesting in his younger life.
So he was a marksman.
Okay.
And at age 18, he actually, allegedly, assassinated his father's political opponent with a .22.
Really?
Then, after being in jail for less than a year, got himself out, got the conviction overturned in the Philippine Supreme Court after writing his own 800-page appeal.
Wow.
So I don't know how much of that was formulated by people, higher-ups, but it seems like he was... Probably all of it.
Probably all of it.
I just feel like he was destined for great things.
Yeah, he was destined for great things.
Got a law degree from University of the Philippines, which is less than the University of Phoenix online.
Accomplishments, yep.
There you go.
You listed those.
He stole $10 billion from the country, though.
So that's the... All I know is that he stole a lot of money from the country.
Yeah, he did.
And his bitch loved her shoes.
That is true.
A lot.
I think it was Nick.
It was something like 3,000 pairs of shoes, right?
That is correct.
3,000 pairs of shoes.
3,000.
To be fair, 2,000 of them, they were bogo at Payless.
No, Bobo's sensible lesbian shoes.
They have the heel on them and everything.
Bobo, is that the bring one, gas one?
Yeah.
I think they had that sale at Payless.
The shoe store?
We had lots of extra shoes.
Dip.
Baby shoot.
One of the fun facts.
Yeah, no, it's a well-known fact, actually.
It's a well-known fact, that's why everyone's horrified.
The body count!
Please stop!
The body count!
Hitler bad?
So bad!
3,200 when we're talking about Ferdinand.
3,200, that's not that much, that's .007%.
So I don't even know why he's on this list, to be honest.
Because we needed a round number?
You know, it's like you got the top ten dictators, then filling out six more, you're just kind of picking and playing.
Right.
I don't know how much... I'm not going to lie to you.
I don't know much else other than the shoes.
Well, that's it.
He had a wife who spent like that on shoes and he didn't kill her, so...
Yeah.
She must have had some dirt on him.
If you think about it, she had access to whatever early version of the cloud.
His son is the current president of the Philippines right now.
And apparently he's not doing a bad job, from what I hear.
People like him.
Especially, he's super friendly to America.
Very anti-China.
So, you know, it's not like Marcos left a terrible legacy for us.
Yeah, well, and also Manny Pacquiao is a representative there, even though I believe he's illiterate.
So.
Isn't that Floyd Mayweather?
Both of them.
Both of them.
They were making fun of each other, like, you're illiterate.
Like, no, you're illiterate.
And it's like, just fight.
What's illiterate mean?
Yeah.
Can't read.
Apparently it means you could be a dictator.
Yes, apparently it does mean you could be a dictator with a very, very long name.
Papadoc is in the bracket.
Papadoc is in the bracket of Ferdinand Marcos.
Now, you may not know this, but Papadoc Duvalier.
is hilarious.
And what I mean, horrible person, just like Hitler, bad.
But he was the, his official title, I guess, is the incorruptible leader of the great majority of the Haitian people, the renovator of the Republic.
Now I'm going to tell you, just that title is bullshit.
He was completely corruptible.
It's almost what happened first.
The reason this guy is so funny to me is he's useless, yes, and he sort of got to, he benefited from I guess the umbrella policy because the United States was more concerned with Cuba at that time and wanted some allies in the region.
So we sort of gave him a little bit of a pass, the United States, at that point.
We knew some stuff was going on, but Haiti's never really been a threat to anybody.
We thought if that's contained, it's maybe better to have some kind of a physical ally in that region.
Apparently he was a physician.
I don't believe it.
The political party was the National Unity Party, which doesn't really mean anything.
Of course he repressed his people.
He stole from them.
He invested heavily into his secret police force.
The body count is estimated at 60,000.
Okay.
So that's 1.4% of the population.
So that's, you know, a third of a Hitler.
But, here's what's pretty interesting about him, is, you know, the large portion of the Haitian population are completely illiterate.
So he knew that.
And Papadoc is actually, it comes from a voodoo, is effectively like the Grim Reaper.
You've seen that face with the skeleton, right, in the graveyards, like if you actually, like New Orleans.
Thank Caffey Grippin.
Yes, yes!
That's Papa Duck, right?
So they started calling him Papa Duck.
He didn't believe in the voodoo stuff, but a lot of people in Haiti did.
So he would use that to manipulate them.
He would actually just, he'd tell some of his guards, and he knew that this would, the word would travel, he'd say, hey, and he'd grab like some kind of a skull candle and some chicken bones and say, I've got, I'm gonna go in my room here, I'm gonna go in this official office, close the door, no one come in, I have a seance to conduct.
And he'd go in, and they'd be like, Papa Duck is calling down the guards, we better not And he was in there, like, smoking a cigarette.
He's like, how long I gotta do this?
That's what he would do.
He would just mess with them.
He didn't believe it at all.
They were calling him Papadoc, and he kind of played it coy early on.
That's, you know, effectively a deity, the bringer of death, you know, for whom you'd trade Brittany Griner.
And he was like, no, no, no, I'm not Papadoc.
I'm not Papadoc.
And then he was like, no, I'm not Papadoc.
Then he would go on radio broadcasts.
He would issue his national radio news alert, whatever it was, from your dear Supreme Leader, whatever his stupid made-up title was, and he would talk like Papadoc while claiming that he wasn't initially.
Allegedly.
Talks like this.
So he would go out there and be like, I am your dear leader, here today with the news update.
Oh, we know it was Papa Duck!
And so they thought he couldn't be removed from power.
His reign was largely based on superstition and ignorance.
And that's funny to me.
He controlled an entire nation with children's tales.
Staunch U.S.
ally.
Staunch U.S.
ally, definitely.
It is not Cuba.
He had his own, oh that's right, he had his own Lord's Prayer.
And by the way, Haiti is a French colony, so I'm translating here, but this is the Papa Doc prayer.
It's, Our Doc, who art in the national palace for life, hallowed be thy name by present and future generations.
Thy will be done at Port-au-Prince.
You're kidding, right?
Thy will sucks!
Is that real?
It's real!
I just killed the monitor.
Are we okay?
Does it matter?
Did I just hit something?
All right, sorry, I gotta read this.
Thy will be done at Port-au-Prince and in the provinces.
Give us this day our new Haiti and never forgive the trespasses of the anti-patriots who spit every day on our country.
Let them succumb to temptation and under the weight of their venom, deliver them not from any evil.
Oh my god, he's a guitar act.
And people said that sh** all across the East.
Imagine if it was the Eastern Dinner.
Those watches with the 600 to 1 are right there.
They will be done at Port-au-Prince.
So Papa Doc, alright.
With this one we're gonna have to let Papa Doc, well, you know, I'm sorry, I forgot Hugo Chavez.
I'm just gonna let you know, Papa Doc's going through.
He earned it with that one.
He's gonna have to go through.
He had the first HBO special.
Is this dirt cookie jam?
They look a lot like pancakes or cookies.
The recipe passed down from generations here in Haiti.
Women spent entire days making them.
Grandmothers, daughters, and younger girls.
Infants are nurse, while mothers work the mix.
Kids seemed to enjoy them, at least when our camera was around.
But these patties, known as bonbon tares by the Haitians who eat them, are a grim reminder of just how poor this Caribbean nation is.
They aren't sweet, they're hard to swallow, and add almost nothing in terms of nutrition.
Because the cookies are actually made of dirt.
Oh my god.
That's where parody law comes from.
I just can't believe people bought that sh**.
Oh, sorry Haiti.
You're stupid.
I always have been, I always will be.
I will be done at Port-au-Prince!
What's communion?
Is it those dirt cookies?
They took the tape from my body, very literally.
Wash it down with his drain water.
Mother Mary, full of duck.
All right.
Now we have Kim Jong Il.
I think we have to break this up into three episodes.
I think that's fine.
Okay.
All right.
I think this is getting a lot of valuable content.
Three years.
I just don't know what we're going to do when we get to the brackets because we have to, how are we going to educate people more?
Should we just provide like a documentary then at that point with each one?
Yeah.
Let's find one.
Just upload it.
Sorry, History Channel.
I say more costumes.
Yes.
Kim Jong-il, dear leader, supreme leader, Kim Jong-il in this bracket with Hugo Chavez.
Here's the thing, you do have to kind of appreciate that they kept it in the family, the Jongs.
Yeah, yeah, that is a good plan.
His father was Kim Il-sung and then of course his son was Kim Jong-un and I feel like the most interesting thing about the Kims, I guess I'll do the first name last, Is the progressively aggressive hairdos?
So like if you look at his dad, like, you know, Kim Il-sung, he had a little, like, what would be sort of more so seen as, alright, you're going to a bar, he's maybe a little bit eccentric.
He's giving you a high and tight.
Then you go to Kim Jong-il, and he obviously had to outdo his dad, he's growing up in his shadow, so he's like, I'm gonna go really tight on the sides at this point and blow it out a little bit.
Like, he wants people to think he had a deep perm for some reason.
And then Kim Jong-il came in and he really, like, you know, he was absolutely a loser, so he was just like, I'm gonna take it.
He was like, f*** it!
I'm gonna take it all off!
Everything on the side!
It looked like a Korean house party.
And it just, you look at it, it just progressively got sillier and sillier.
And you usually don't get to be a dictator when you look that dumb.
Kim in play.
I like that haircut.
You would call it a lesbian?
We would call it a Lickins and no d***s. Okay.
I don't think that's what you'd call it.
Something's lost in translation.
Now, he went to Kim Il-sung University in Pyongyang.
Was it his son who was educated in Switzerland?
Kim Jong-un went to Switzerland.
Him and Kim Yo-jong, his sister, both were educated.
Here's what I don't understand with that, and I know we're supposed to be educating UN dictators, but just indulge me here for a second.
If he went to Switzerland, why did they let him out?
Oh, they didn't know.
They didn't know who he was.
Oh, they didn't know who he was?
The Swiss didn't know who he was.
The Swiss didn't know who he was?
They had no idea.
Fake passports.
I believe he was under a Singaporean passport.
I don't know what his alias was, but he was fake.
He was not there as Kim Jong-un.
I was going to say, what, he passed the eyeball test?
Yeah, exactly.
Stick out like a sore chicken finger.
Anyway.
So accomplishments.
In the 1990s, the food distribution system failed.
Of course, massive famine.
He withdrew North Korea from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and he oversaw the development of North Korea's first nuclear weapon.
And what else?
He has three classes of citizens, by the way.
Kim Jong-il.
Loyal, wavering, and hostile.
So I'm willing to bet they spend most of their time on the wavering.
It's like that undecided vote here in the United States.
And it's very hard to isolate him because the policies are so continuous between his father and his son that it's kind of the Kims, but he's oversaw the most death of any of them, so that's why we thought he was the appropriate one to put in.
It's tough.
What were the three categories?
Cold Red, Cold Yellow, and Cold Orange.
Those are Mountain Dews.
It was Ooloy.
There were three...
There were three...
There were...
You broke...
You broke...
There were three classes of citizens...
Loyal, wavering, and hostile.
Like cowboy fans.
Yes, yes.
And he actually, again, has convinced a lot of his people that he's a deity.
Kind of like Papa Doc.
They make up this stuff like, oh, in his first game of golf he got 11 holes and won.
It was a nine hole course.
It was a nine hole course.
Yeah, things like that where they just, they convince people that they're a deity.
Yeah, Putin too, they do that with Putin.
They do it with all these people, but this is really silly.
And when you actually read up a little more on North Korea, I sort of thought when Kim Jong-un died and everyone was crying in the streets, I thought the whole nation deserved a razzie.
Turns out, some of them were actually sad.
Right, so when Kim Il-sung died, the original, people were actually pretty sad about it because they did view him as a deity.
With Kim Jong-il, there's a lot more razzying going on.
You think so?
Yes.
There, some women in uniform were breaking down as a giant poster of Kim Jong-il rolled along, leading the funeral procession.
The scenes of mass grief were displayed across the North Korean capital as the cortege drove through the streets heading for the square named for his father and the country's founder, Kim Il-sung.
People wailed and screamed and beat their chests as the cars passed by.
Lamentations were loud as the cars circled the square twice in their first pass around the city center.
Yeah, it looked like they were, because that's also, it's really tough because if you have to force your population to, you know, to act sad when you die, and it's an entire population that can't act.
The South Koreans on the other hand.
Like a Seth Meyers drama.
You don't want to be wavering, Stephen.
No, I don't want to be wavering.
That's an undecided vote.
That's their swing state, is the wavering.
You think he shows up door-to-door with the wavering?
Hi, I hear you were wavering!
What can I do to ensure your vote doesn't matter?
Joe, I'll kill you.
Three million body count during the Korean famine.
Which is pretty good, considering the population.
I mean, depending on how you look at it, good or bad.
Effective.
Accomplished.
Effective.
It's an accomplishment.
It's effective.
It's alright for a famine.
Yeah, it's, you know, you could do more damage with famine.
Yeah, that's... I agree with that.
I mean, if you got rid of Funyuns, you'd take out a couple million streamers right now on Twitch.
Over 100,000 were in prison in gulags, so 13% as far as the number of his population.
So, it's still pretty, you don't even think about that because you were most likely alive for Kim Jong-il.
You know, we put him in Team America, World Police, and it was hilarious, and it's really, it's more, it's two Hitlers.
Two Hitlers, as far as percent of the population.
So imagine if, when World War II was going on, you had, you know, a film like, and you just had Hitler in there as a puppet and people were mocking him.
That's really what you're doing at this point in time, it's just that you're so isolated from it, you're not aware of what takes place in the world today.
In which you live.
Uh, what else do we have?
He was, oh yeah, that's right, he was a big movie fan.
Some fun trivia.
He had 30,000 films in his personal collection.
Not a one of them North Korean, I'm willing to bet.
And also says he was a big fan of Gene Shalit.
Is that a Juden?
This summer is a famine for good comedies.
laughing They're starving for laughter!
Anything I'm missing?
Uh, no.
I mean, I will say where he deserves a lot of The choice of words here is very difficult.
There's no good way.
Have you seen what we've done here today?
Well, yeah.
Hi, Hitler.
Did you say hi or hi-al?
He said hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Yeah, let's go with salutation.
Stop.
Hello.
Hands down.
Please.
But he did oversee the development of a nuclear program, which they still have, and that is the reason that they can exist as this lineage of dictators.
Oh, frickin' great.
I mean, it's not good for anybody else.
No.
Yeah.
But, you know, he has the power to up those, he gave Kim the power to up those numbers real quick.
Yeah.
It's like a couple Roman candles and some black cats.
Great job.
Well, one more thing.
5'3".
Why are we overlooking this?
We always overlook the 5'3", man.
He's down there.
Oh, I wouldn't talk.
So, in North Korea, that's very large.
He's the Goliath of North Korea.
That's another good example.
They don't need to eat a lot.
They're small.
Well, he does.
Only he does.
He eats a lot.
He just got fat.
Again, at some point, just kill your dictators and eat them.
Just start doing that.
Yeah, wait, what?
No, it's okay, you're fine, you made it through.
Anybody threatens to kill him, he straps them to the front of an anti-aircraft gun and blows them into oblivion.
Yeah, well, I know, I know, but my point is they can't catch you all.
If you just storm him, he's fat, he can't run away.
That's true.
I mean, not him, but Kim Jong-un is even fatter.
Way fatter.
They got progressively fatter.
We thought he died for a long time because he just disappeared.
Yeah.
That he had a heart attack and kicked a bucket.
And then he came out and he just has to exaggerate.
He can't just say, like, no, I'm okay.
Like, I'm in the best health ever!
No, he was just at the Golden Corral.
Have you tried the lasagna?
It's my favorite.
Yeah, it is going to be worse because she's a woman.
I really do believe in laws of contrast.
That's really important.
These things don't exist in a vacuum.
North Korea.
Could there be a South Korea?
Of course.
And you can actually look at not only the technological advancements, not only the economies, not only look at the quality of life, you can even look at the size of the people and the stunted growth from the starvation that takes place in North Korea.
There isn't really a reason for that separation to exist other than ideology.
So when people tell you religion is the cause of all wars, hold on a second, or religion is the cause of all major deaths, You can look to a lot of these nations, and if you have a comparison, that's really valuable.
And human beings, we always, just like pictures, we look for something in the picture for scale, right?
That's how optical illusions can take place if you don't have something that's appropriate.
And this brings us to, also in this bracket, Chavez.
And this one is interesting to me, because Chavez, or sorry, as Sean Penn refers to him, a great world leader.
Yes.
Hugo.
Hugo Chavez.
Hugo.
I shouldn't be saying Hugo?
I don't know.
Did I mess- I'm sorry to have offended the sensibilities of dictators.
Well, there's no H in Spanish, Stephen, so you have to be culturally sensitive to these types of- I don't give a s**t. Shut up, Jew.
All of you- He said shut up, you.
He said shut up, you.
You need to shut up, Sam from HR.
That's not what I heard.
Hugo.
Ugo.
Huggo?
Huggo.
Ugo.
Huggo?
That was the latest, uh, wasn't that the Scorsese film?
Ugo?
The kids movie?
With the clock?
I thought that was a Spielberg film.
Was it Spielberg?
I don't know, they both kind of suck.
I don't know.
The point is... I thought it was Tarantino.
Venezuela.
So Venezuela, I don't know if it is, I think it's the most oil-rich nation in South America.
Is it, as far as square land miles, is it actually the most oil-rich nation in the world?
They have more oil reserves in their territory than any other country in the world.
Than any other country.
Okay, I wanted to make sure that I was getting that correct.
I knew in South America, but there's no reason that Venezuela should be poor.
There's no reason that there should be bread lines.
A good example is in stateside.
There should be no reason for California to see a population decline when they have all kinds of natural resources, the ocean, you can grow anything there.
They were starting off, they had a head start as far as they could.
People are leaving because of policy, because of ideas.
Venezuela is a place that should be wealthy.
You have to try hard to screw it up.
And don't just gloss over this.
American leftists have been propping up Chavez and praising him.
They want to distance themselves from Chavez now.
But you had Sean Penn, you had Bernie Sanders, you had a long list of celebrities of people saying, yeah, no, Chavez is being misrepresented in the United States.
Well, now they've just sort of gone to radio silence.
So, Chavez attended a Venezuelan military academy.
United Socialist Party of Venezuela.
Oh, that might be why.
That might be why.
Is that a right-wing thing?
Yeah, it's another right-wing thing.
Socialism, of course, as far as his accomplishments, he turned Venezuela, again beforehand, the scale, from a near first world country to an entirely third world country.
And, of course, that was carried on.
Now, you saw it then afterwards with Maduro.
The oil wealth that existed there, of course, has been completely squandered.
I believe that he nationalized all of them or just to one degree was sort of a multifaceted approach.
I think it took place kind of in some steps.
He subsidized the oil exports to countries like Cuba, and then of course their strategic reserves shrank and the government debt doubled.
Wow.
That's pretty bad.
You have to try really hard to do that in a place like Venezuela.
Unbelievable.
You think about it, the whole world is fighting for long periods over oil, over energy, over resources.
They have it, and they squander all of it.
And of course, none of the money actually goes to the people.
The money always ends up going to those in power.
Hey, congratulations.
Socialism.
Communism.
And it's very important.
Same thing if you look back at Cuba.
You had people who viewed themselves as counter-culturalists, revolutionaries, right?
People.
The left supported Cuba.
The United States.
They thought Castro was great.
You still see people wearing Che Guevara on t-shirts.
And then you see, even to this day, let's talk about within the last decade, Sean Penn, Bernie Sanders, people praising Chavez.
They only put distance between themselves and these dictators once it's so undeniable that they have egg on their face.
But make no mistake, they would like to see these policies, to one degree or another, implemented here in the United States.
Body count, at least 100,000, that's 0.3% of the population.
So those are kind of small numbers in comparison to Hitler.
Oh, here's some trivia.
Since 2012, there are Chavez Eyes murals that actually still exist everywhere to show people that he is still watching.
Did you know that?
He's still watching.
Why do you find that so funny?
It's like, why didn't I think of that?
That was such a good idea!
Oh my God!
And kind of going back to Pinochet, who was part of, I guess, a coup.
This is the rule in South America.
This is how Chávez—it was 1992, there was the coup against then-president, it was Pérez, and I guess at that point Chávez participated, he failed in that coup, and then— Straight to jail.
Then straight to jail, released in 95.
Then he ended up becoming—was his title officially president?
I'm trying to—it's hard for me to keep track—and then the elections, remember, that were held after, and of course they weren't real elections, right?
These were just as I got 100% of the vote.
I'm exaggerating.
We'll make all the references publicly available.
You know, all the things they accuse Donald Trump of wanting to do, of never relinquish power, while they praise dictators who do it throughout the globe.
That's Chavez.
And what you saw with him and what you saw with people like Mao and all these communist socialist leaders is they start drinking their own Kool-Aid, thinking, oh, well, maybe I really do know everything.
Let me set the agricultural policy.
Let me fire all the engineers that work for our state oil company so we don't know how to get the oil anymore.
Great idea.
Bunch of dumbasses, man.
They start drinking their own Kool-Aid.
Or Papadoc, his own piss.
No, wait, sorry.
Idi Amin.
Mobutu, I don't know what he drank.
Communion wine.
Delicious.
He probably drank protein shakes.
He was 225.
That's true.
Big man.
Delicious.
Big man.
Probably some optimum nutrition whey.
So, okay, I think we know Papa Doc is going through, absolutely, but if Chavez and Kim Jong-il, who do we think should move on to our final eight?
I've got to put Kim in there.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I kind of like Chavez just because Chavez, like, you know, we have more afterwards, like, you know, it makes the way for Maduro.
You know, as far as it might be more interesting in the final eight, whereas we all know it's just Kim Jong-il goes to Kim Jong-un and they're both crazy.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You could flip a coin on this one.
I think it's a 49-51 match.
Maybe we'll have to go to Hitler for... Yeah.
Hitler's got the... I would go if it's a lady hair.
What's your reasoning for that?
Oh, I just like his smile.
Yeah, you like the smile?
Yeah, it's good teeth.
Yeah, okay.
And, uh... And he's got four eyes!
Yes, yes he does.
He's got eyes everywhere, but he's got four on his face.
Alright, you know what?
You've had a rough day.
Let's give you Kim Jong-il.
13% of the population.
That's a big population percentage.
That's the first round right there.
That is the first round.
I think we were planning on doing this in two installments, but we've got to do this likely in three.
Let's say quarterly.
We're going to run out of dictators, but you know, they'll keep propping up.
Popping up.
And we'll be propping them up, depending on who they are.
So that's been, we didn't go through the Ayatollah Khomeini, but let's be honest, he's not going anywhere.
Mao Zedong, Idi Amin, Joseph Stalin, Pinochet.
Well, who do we have left?
Wait, what's the final bracket?
That's right.
We have Mao, Ayatollah, Stalin, Saddam, Pol Pot, Fidel, Hugo Chavez, no sorry, Kim Jong-il, and Papa Duck.
That's gonna be a hell of a second round match.
Those are our final eight.
And I think we're just gonna have to make our way through the eight pretty quickly to get to the four, the semifinals.
There'll be much more debate.
Yes, there'll be much more debate.
And by that, I mean, they're all bad.
We can probably just start here with this matchup.
Yep, we can start with this matchup.
So tune in, I believe, we'll probably be doing this tomorrow, I'm assuming.
Yep.
We'll be continuing this.
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The Papa Doc betting lineup, I believe, is now just a plus 900.
Dark Horse, absolutely.
Well yeah, he advanced.
He did advance, so the odds have changed.
Let us know who you think the worst dictator is, and who did you learn about before today, and who would you like to learn more about tomorrow, or the next day, however long this goes.
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Mein Führer, I guess.
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