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May 29, 2024 - Louder with Crowder
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Watch these Gen-Z Chicks Flip for Trump in Real Time! Talking with People
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You mentioned $20 an hour, plus a bachelor's.
Because there are a lot of jobs out there that are over $20 an hour that don't require a college education.
That's true.
Does a part of you, and we've heard this from some people today, feel like you were lied to a little bit?
I feel very lied to.
So I went to med school.
I did my master's, my bachelor's, med school a little bit.
I switched to tech, so at this point I'm like, why did I go to school?
A Financial Times analysis of Gallup data found American Gen Z women are 30 percentage
points more liberal than their male counterparts.
I don't care if they write that.
I'm sad that I didn't two years ago, but I can't change that.
I'm saying right now that this is something that I know is right, and you guys, I need to be on the right side of history, and if he doesn't win, then at least I tried.
This is for Harrison Butker.
Does life begin at conception or when you get married?
And is it both?
Is that why they don't actually care about kids?
Because between conception and marriage, you're not really a person, and that's why we're defunding our schools and Christian fund limits.
Journalists think that prayers are going to fix gun violence and, you know, the crumbling foster care system.
Oh, also, there's like child marriage laws in like a majority of states, including here in Missouri.
So, like, is that just you guys wanting the baby to get to their second life really quickly?
Is that the goal?
TikTok was basically full time for me.
I was taking ads by the time I graduated college from like the Biden administration and Planned
Parenthood and like dating apps and stuff.
So it was like fully financially, you know, sustained.
So you were getting the Biden administration was buying ads from you?
Yeah, I was doing full on political propaganda.
You've heard the old saying, women can't live with them and they always vote Democrat.
In yesterday's installment of Talking With People, I spoke with a wide array of different Americans who span the political spectrum.
Many of you were surprised by how these people leaned politically, because it turns out that judging a voter by their immutable characteristics may not be as productive as once thought.
Today's a little different, in that we'll be focusing on one specific conversation, though it takes place with three subjects.
And I know what you're thinking.
At first glance, there's very little chance that someone like me would find common ground with a group of self-manifesting, 20-something-year-old ladies who just came from high tea.
Hold on to your hats, because this may not go exactly how you were expecting.
This is Talking With People.
Happy birthday!
What's your name?
Maddy.
Maddy?
Nice to meet you, Maddy.
Janice.
Janice?
Itze.
Itze?
Itze, yeah.
Itze?
Yeah.
Am I?
Okay.
Alright, I'm doing my best.
Here, I'm going to get on one so I can get the three of you.
Should I be sandwiched in between?
I don't know.
So, Maddy, Itze, Janice.
Janice, okay.
I'll remember that because Janice introduced my dad to my mom.
She was her life.
So is this just your dress up just because it's your birthday?
Yes.
We just came back from the French Room.
We went to Hi-Tea.
Hi-Tea?
In the French Room.
In the Adolfo Hotel.
If you look at me, I clearly don't know anything about Hi-Tea.
It's just a tea party.
Little sandwiches.
It's one of those things where they charge you more for smaller portions.
Yes!
The kind of thing that only women like, and they try to get into.
It's the aesthetic.
Yeah!
It's like brunch on steroids, where you guys are like, why am I paying $25 for eggs?
Exactly!
And the women think it's cute.
Alright, so how old are you today?
27.
27.
Alright, you all around the same age group?
29, yeah.
26.
26?
Okay.
Alright, so a close cluster there.
First question, are you planning on voting in this election coming up?
Yes.
I'm registered to vote.
Okay.
Yes.
All right, are you paying attention to the election?
Is it at the front of your mind?
Yeah, I've seen a lot of it on the media, and I just had to write a paper on something pretty controversial.
So I've been very passionate about the Dakota Access Pipeline and all the pipelines that are being put underground by a Dallas-based company, Energy Transfer Partners.
Basically, the pipeline's already leaking.
It's already been built.
And it goes under a lot of freshwater sources and it can contaminate water for thousands of Americans.
So it's something that I wrote about and I just found out today.
I got an A. Yay!
So I'm really excited about it.
Good for you.
Yeah.
Good.
You did a good job.
Now how about yourself?
Do you have something that's at the front of your mind as far as this election?
Like, what's most pressing?
Most people don't, aside from the people who need access to energy.
Do you have something that's at the front of your mind as far as this election?
What's most pressing?
What do you think is at stake?
Really, I don't know what's at stake, but I would like to be a homeowner.
Okay.
Yeah, and I feel like it's not a great time.
It's not the best.
I don't feel like I have the same opportunities my parents do, so I'm like, oh, I would love to be a homeowner.
We've heard that a lot from younger people today, that getting into home ownership is tough.
Yeah.
What do you think, you say?
Um, from what I heard, because I work in the private airline industry, and so for corporate aviation, I heard if a certain party gets elected, they're going to be taxing on corporate jets, and so I would be out of business.
Right.
So, that's one of my concerns.
How much do you want to bet Al Gore and John Kerry still take private jets?
I don't know.
It only affects some people.
So do you work with corporate chartered flights?
I do.
I'm an independent contractor, so I don't work with a corporation itself, but I know it would affect me and my job opportunities.
And how do you feel the economy is as far as job opportunities for people in your age group?
It's very difficult.
I have a degree in marketing, and it's so hard to even get an entry-level position as a marketer.
Really?
And they want to offer $20 an hour and require a bachelor's, which is ridiculous.
You can't live off of that in Dallas.
$20 an hour?
$15!
I've seen on Indeed, and even $15 for entry-level marketing positions is what they're offering.
And even for me, it's hard to get something like that, even though I have experience.
So, it's difficult for our generation, and I'm sure it's difficult for everybody in general.
Because you also mentioned, this is interesting to me, you mentioned $20 an hour plus a bachelor's.
Because there are a lot of jobs out there that are over $20 an hour that don't require a college education.
That's true.
Does a part of you, and we've heard this from some people today, feel like you were lied to a little bit?
Like, get an education?
I feel very lied to.
So I went to med school.
I did my master's, my bachelor's, med school, a little bit.
And then I switched to tech.
So at this point, I'm like, why did I go to school?
Right.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I didn't... So now I'm like...
I mean, maybe if I got a computer science degree, maybe it is worth it.
Right.
But the cost, like the benefit, I don't know.
Yeah.
I could have just gone straight into my job, honestly.
Right.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of societal pressure to get a college degree, even though nowadays it honestly doesn't mean much.
It's not worth much.
Because you have UPS drivers making, what is it, a hundred?
A hundred grand a year.
A hundred grand a year.
You don't need a degree for that kind of job, so why am I putting thousands of dollars into getting a college education?
I should just create content!
Unfortunately, a lot of young women are just going to OnlyFans now too.
Is that something that you've noticed?
You have quite a few friends who do that?
I feel like that's become like the easy thing because of the industry being so competitive even from foreign people too.
They're coming really educated and they are getting hired because they're willing to work for a little less.
So it is very competitive and cutthroat.
So you got the message I guess growing up, go to school, get straight A's, probably take out a loan if your parents weren't able to afford it for you, and you get out and you're going, I'm basically starting the same as a guy who's a shift manager at Dunkin Donuts.
That's right!
That's perfectly correct.
The gender gap, too.
Since I work remote, I want to apply as like Matthew King instead of Maddie King because I'm like, maybe I get paid more as a man.
That's not a thing.
I'll go back.
As someone who employs 30 people, that's not a thing.
If I could get away with it, then I would never hire a guy again.
If I could pay women less, yeah.
I think on top of that I feel like diversity is being prioritized over experience because in the aviation industry that's what they're doing and a lot of airlines they're hiring for diversity purposes instead of experience so you're having a lot of these issues with you know they're saying the Boeing manufacturing is terrible quality control so but a lot of it is because of the new cars the new pilots that don't have as much experience but they're hired because of the diversity quotas that they're trying to fulfill.
Yeah.
And the reason I said it is because I don't want you to buy into another lie that women make 77 cents on the dollar.
It's not true.
Oh, really?
It's not true?
No, it's not.
It's not true at all.
Okay.
I'm gonna be like, okay, where's my race?
Yeah.
You know, but a lot of women do believe that.
Oh, okay.
And at my company, as a matter of fact, the second person in command is a n**** of n****.
We'll probably have to edit out their name.
She's an absolute killer.
Like, she is a bulldog.
That's awesome.
And she works with another lady named M*****.
And it really just comes down to who's right for the position.
But the idea that men are going out and hiring men... Like, why would I hire a man if I could pay a woman less?
I could just cut the costs of my business by, you know, 23%.
Yes.
So don't buy into that.
Okay, good.
Yeah, I'm happy.
So it seems like there's a mixed bag here, because obviously your view on the Dakota pipeline would be something that would be seen as more left.
But then obviously you all seem to agree on the idea that maybe the education system has failed you on the promise, and the DEI kind of diversity situation has made it tough to get a job.
So with all that being said, who do you think is best, or at this point in time, how do you think it goes?
Do you think there's one person who's better than the other to kind of rectify this or provide you with more opportunity?
The opportunities that you said maybe your parents had that you feel you didn't?
Anyone?
I personally don't feel like there is anyone on the top of my head that I see fit more than the other.
Do you want a third option?
Yeah!
I just honestly like we saw what Trump America was like and although the economy was booming like Biden's America has been very hard.
I got laid off.
I was doing accounting at a construction company And I was making great money and it pushed me back into school because all of these places want you to have a bachelor's and stuff and I was just straight off experience and so right now I'm in the middle of school at almost 30 because the requirements are different but yet like the industry hasn't changed.
We were using the same programs that were built years ago so it's It's just completely different and it's not caught up to standard of what we need for today.
Well, you just said the economy was booming under Trump.
We've seen Biden's America, but no one's more fit than the other.
Seems like you're saying that there's a lot of issues with Trump, too.
You know, just all the hatred and racism that comes with it, that people associated with Trump and all the protests that
happen, the violence.
So all of that is what made me feel very sad to see people breaking into Targets, breaking into Walmarts to make like their voices known that they're minorities or they're not getting their voices heard.
A lot of that I found very disturbing and I don't want to see that happen again.
And forgive me, how is that Trump's doing, people breaking into Target or Walgreens in San Francisco?
Well, a lot of it was him persuading people to do something about what they're unhappy about and breaking into the White House and things like that.
It just seemed like it fueled people to do something just out of the ordinary.
Yeah.
But it seems like all these, you're talking about, you know, for example, Black Lives Matter, the Summer of Love, and now you're seeing it with Palestine, you know, on campus, that those were people in opposition to what Trump stands for.
It seems like, really, if you were to take that and segment it out and say, okay, these were radical leftists who were committing acts of violence, but then go back to what you said, the economy was booming, I got laid off, It seems like one of those things where maybe it's personality versus results.
It was like pros and cons.
It was pros and cons, I think, to both.
Yeah.
But I do think that the economy was better under Trump, for sure.
Right.
Definitely.
That seems to be an overarching theme today, aside from a few people.
Yeah.
Has a theme been, like, women's rights, like, to their autonomy at all, or not really?
It's kind of been like a last year's thing.
There have been a few people, kind of last year's thing.
What's the A topic right now?
Well, most people say it's the economy and immigration.
Economy, yep.
The economy and immigration seems to be... We're in Texas, yeah.
Yeah.
And, uh, what about yourself?
Would you say those are kind of the big issues?
Because it seems like you're all saying the economy.
Yeah, no, I definitely believe, like, the woman's rights, like, that we brought up is definitely one of the huge factors.
I worry that we'll lose, um, like, I know some states have thought about, like, contraceptions and stuff.
I'm like, oh.
But another thing, too, I do want to know, like the student loan debt, that was something that was brought up by Biden, and that never really happened.
False promises by the president.
It's a lot of false promises, and it makes us give up hope on Biden.
And even then, I wasn't really a huge fan of him.
Yeah, me neither.
But still, it just makes me not want him in the office again, for sure, not Biden.
Well, it seems like student loan is not such a great thing considering that you said the degree is not worth the papers printed on it.
No, it's not.
It's not.
But that's what you're pressured into whenever you're younger.
Right out of high school, you know, your family pressures you to get a degree because degree equals, you know, a great job and that's what you have in your head when you're a kid.
Right.
So, you obviously stick to that but it's not what the reality is.
Right.
And there were a lot of people who were upset on the other side of the coin with student loans.
You know, for example, people who either paid off their loans or people who chose not to go to school because they said, I don't think it's going to, they went to go work in an oil rig.
And they're paying taxes saying, I don't really think that my tax dollars should go to forgive a loan for whatever it is, a gender studies degree.
And there's, it seems like everything that people say maybe was good under Biden was kind of a promised government program that came from tax dollars.
Is that something that you've I definitely don't think our tax dollars are going in the right places.
Our education is not the highest.
The food in our school system is poison.
There is a lot that we're lacking in America that could be improved and focused on, and it's not.
A lot of countries are advanced and have better energy systems, food quality, education, and we're not there.
What kind of energy systems do you mean?
Just more solar and wind power.
I mean we both have Teslas and we get to enjoy like not having to pay for gas and not worrying about an outage or pipelines busting or gas prices going up.
So there's a lot of clean energy out there and I know that the batteries aren't made in the best way.
They're made in the worst way.
Right.
The worst possible way.
But there's new technology that we could be reinforcing to make our country better.
Yeah.
It's just being ignored and swept under the rug.
So you would like to see more solar and wind?
Yes, yes, and cleaner food without pesticides, more organic food for the children at the schools and in the market.
I feel like the pharmaceutical industry wants us to be sick, wants us to have cancer, wants us to be on medication because it's a billion dollar industry.
So, the fact that we could grow our own food and be organic, it's not something that I feel like the country focuses on or wants to push, but would be the best.
Right.
So, not big fans of the big pharmaceutical industries?
No.
What about the COVID mRNA vaccine?
Oh, no.
Definitely not.
I'm not vaccinated.
Not vaccinated.
I've had COVID twice and everybody that had COVID in the office was vaccinated and I got COVID from someone who had their vaccine.
It's unfortunate that businesses at the time are pushing for the vaccination.
Right.
And so I remember, like, going into one of the businesses I was, like, accompanies.
They were pushing for the vaccine as, like, there's forcing you to do it.
I'm not getting that.
I'm not getting that.
I did it.
I don't care.
You did it?
Yeah.
All right.
So you didn't.
You did.
Another broken promise.
You said someone was vaccinated and gave you COVID?
Yes.
Remember, if you get the vaccine, you can't get it, or at the very least you can't transmit it.
That's like, well, you'll transmit it and you can get it, but it won't be as severe.
Well, it may be severe, but you won't be in a hospital and a death.
Another broken promise.
And I hear a lot of issues with the vaccine are coming up, right?
Yes, with women and fertility and things like that.
So it makes you wonder if it had anything to do with population control because China's really big on that.
Right.
But the problem is you mentioned China, but then you mentioned solar and wind.
First off, this is one place where I would disagree.
There is no country that's made that work.
It's non-efficient energy.
We just spoke with a man from Germany.
They went away from nuclear while France went to nuclear.
Zero carbon emissions.
Solar, wind didn't work.
It's been a disaster for Germany.
And I don't know if you know where those solar panels come from.
Or even talking about electric vehicles, China.
China really is in charge of not only the batteries, but they're actually the number one producer now of EVs.
And as these regulations come into place to force everyone to go to EVs, you're going to embolden and empower China.
That's true.
They don't have the strictest emission standards over there in China.
Yes, and I think that we've had a huge reliance on China.
I also learned that environmental science, where we have the resources, but the labor cost is cheaper in China.
So a lot of the resources that we're getting from China are available in other countries, but because their labor is so cheap, that's why we keep outsourcing to them, which is giving them so much power, which is another thing that I feel like we should get away from.
Well, come on, of the two candidates, who do you think is going to be tougher on China?
Trump, for sure.
I mean, it's practically a catchphrase.
So you still don't know how you're going to vote, though?
Because Trump's a dick.
Yeah.
But everything you say, China, vaccine, rollout, all these broken promises.
It's a hard election, for sure, out of all of the ones.
I think this is one of the more important ones, especially since we're declining so fast.
And I think that our country has been seen as weak since Biden has been in office, which is very concerning.
So you're not going to vote for Biden, it sounds like.
No.
Heck no.
But you're reticent to pull that lever.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
I think you know how you're going to vote.
You just have to keep going.
I don't know.
It's hard.
Yeah.
I definitely have to vote for Trump because my job relies on it.
But it's unfortunate because I'm not really much into politics, but I know that that's going to really affect my job opportunities, so that's the route I have to go.
Were you old enough to vote last election?
So who did you vote for last election?
I didn't vote.
You didn't vote?
Did any of you vote?
I didn't vote.
You didn't vote?
I voted.
Who did you vote for?
I voted for Biden.
You voted for Biden.
Do you think you'll do that again?
Okay.
It sounds like, because there's been a lot, a lot of shifting we've noticed today, where a lot of people said, I voted for Biden, I'm not going to do that again.
I've heard that a lot today.
And it sounds like you didn't, you were, you didn't vote, but.
Yeah, no, but I already know, I know who I'm going to vote for this year.
It's the same outcome.
Why do we have the two same options?
And the thing is, so many policies are so old where the Congress is paying themselves all this money and they get to be in there forever.
And they're on these old ideas.
We need fresh, young, new people in there.
Who are making the decisions versus people who are like literally not even showing up to work and getting paid our tax dollars, which people don't focus on, but that is a big thing.
Most people in Congress are like 90, 80, like how can they make a fazzable decision on what our lives are now?
Right.
Because everything's different.
I don't think a lot of young people vote.
When I ask my friends and they're upset about the outcome of election, I'm like, well, did you vote?
And they say no.
Every time, yeah.
I'm like, oh, well, that's why.
I feel like a lot of our generation avoided voting last time because the two options were not good.
The best.
Yeah, so we didn't want to vote.
That's one of my reasons is because I didn't know which one to vote for.
They all seemed like they were terrible choices, so I just, I didn't have Would you say a reason maybe that you're voting for Trump this time, and I know you're undecided, and you're undecided, but even considering it, is because of the contrast, where like you said, the economy was booming, like, you lived under a term of Trump, and for any of the negatives, you see the difference economically, and now you have Biden, like, do you think that's something that maybe hasn't happened in your lifetime, where you go, there's a noticeable change?
Yeah, I mean we bought our house on that interest rate.
It was like 3% and I was making a ton of money and things were good.
I was living the life and now I'm not.
So that definitely hurts you when you're able to provide a certain life for your family and then it gets taken away because interest rates are higher because, you know, of the interest rates it's like a domino effect on everything.
Everybody's livelihood.
We're millennials, so people in our generation are stuck with what the boomers did and the generations after us, and their decisions are still overpowering our lives.
Right.
Yeah, so you feel like maybe you don't have a voice in that as much.
Yeah, and also, don't count on that Social Security check when you reach that age.
Right, right.
They're saying the boomers are going to basically take it all.
There's a good chance that it won't be around, or at least not in its current capacity, so I would advise saving yourself in a different portfolio than relying on Social Security.
That's correct, and we did learn that in school recently, that it's projected that we won't get our social security because the boomers.
Yeah.
Such a large population, retiring.
So the one thing it sounds like that makes you a little bit hesitant is because of what you saw as social unrest under Donald Trump.
Yes.
I just don't like the hatred and the anger and the lack for care of the environment because, sure, gas and oil are great.
We have diesel trucks and a million dirt bikes at home.
Our clean water is not something that we can continue to risk.
Pipelines can be rerouted to areas that don't run over fresh water.
That's the big thing.
Why don't you just put the pipeline somewhere else away from our fresh water sources?
So the lack of care for the environment also is what makes me worried.
Yeah, take it up with this one.
Take it up with your friend because she works in private air travel.
I'll be honest.
Sometimes we drop people off in Cabo and we have to fly all the way back and then just to fly back to pick them up.
So it's honestly not like environmental.
I fly a lot.
I go on cruises.
I realize that gas and oil are important.
But the way that we're doing it can be improved.
Yeah.
We don't have to run these pipelines near our freshwater sources, and that's my biggest problem.
Right.
Isn't there a rumor of electric airplanes?
Any rumors?
I think so.
I don't know.
Everyone said maybe.
They're not really super effective at this point.
There are electric drones that can kind of fit two or more like, more like air cats, eventually, like Uber.
I think Uber Air is something that they're sort of testing, actually, maybe in Dallas.
Yeah.
But you can only fit a few people.
It doesn't have a very long range.
Would it help if we just have a train from like Dallas to Houston to Austin?
I don't know if a train's more effective, is it?
Than driving.
Well, I mean... Well, inconvenient.
Yeah, I don't know about that.
Because Europe and everywhere has trains but us.
Yeah, they do.
That costs a lot of money though, too.
Yeah, and it's a lot of coal, too.
Well, if you get away from pipelines and gas and coal, then there's nothing left except for solar and wind, and now we're back to China.
Yeah.
I just want more holidays and four-day work weeks.
I don't... The rest is like, yeah, whatever.
Yeah, well, in that case, vote Biden.
I just want to be happier.
And then see if it's another broken promise as far as four-day work weeks, you know?
You could probably go to Europe and do pretty well.
I know, they say people our age in Europe are ranked way happier than we are.
I don't want to say anything that has to do with the food.
It has to do with the food because the food controls your hormones and that's one of my big things is eating healthy, eating clean.
And it's so hard to do here in the States, especially with a bunch of fast food being so easily accessible.
So like you got Chick-fil-A right in the corner, Starbucks, so obviously people... Apparently Lunchables has lead in it or something.
Yeah!
I don't know about that.
I don't want to, I don't want to defame Lunchables at this point.
I kind of think you know what you're getting.
I don't think that anyone is thinking Lunchables.
I'm just saying that's like a minor example of everything's a little bit poisoned here.
Like our food labels have bad ingredients that other countries don't have.
And makeup products, everything.
Yeah, but you have more choice here.
Like I will say this, I never ate healthier than when I was dirt poor.
When I was dirt poor, I would go to the store, I was living in California, yep, I would get oats, that was cheap, back then eggs were relatively cheap, oats, eggs, milk, I'd get whatever fruit was on sale, tuna, put in a package, and I'd actually buy sometimes baby food, because there's always baby food on sale, and as long as you get past it.
That's what I was eating all the time.
I really kind of had to pare it down and I realized, oh my gosh, I'm eating really, at this point, this would have been 2008, 2009, on what would be considered pennies a day just by limiting it, you know?
I could have easily gone to Taco Bell, but I knew that that wouldn't be good for me.
There's a lot of other countries, you know, you're talking about inflation.
Groceries are more expensive.
Yeah, I feel like eating out to restaurants is equal to grocery prices at the moment.
Oh, it's way more!
Oh, it's way more.
It depends where you go.
We probably spent over $400 today at the hotel.
Yeah.
That's like a week of groceries.
Yes.
I think we're like really blessed to live here and I'm still really happy.
I don't have much to complain about.
I know a lot of places are way worse than we are.
I'm happy.
This is just nitpicking.
We're definitely at the highest level of income compared to the majority of the world and I think a lot of us don't realize that.
So that was part of some of the things that I learned today at school was just the levels of income and how we really are at the highest level already but we don't realize how privileged we are and how much we really have as far as opportunity goes.
Um, in comparison to the majority, like, people who walk to work barefoot and ride their bike, we have cars.
Or high tea.
Yeah, high tea!
That's about, come on, that's about the epitome of white privilege, let's be honest.
Even if you believe it's a thing, which I don't, high tea, you're spending more for, let me guess, the little macaroons?
Yeah, biscuits and scones.
It was pretty filling, surprisingly.
I think we're just comparing our life to the boomer generation.
We're just trying to max our potential.
Yeah, it would just be nice to not, like, our house, when it was first built, was probably not $350,000, right?
But we're stuck paying these astronomical prices just because of, you know, all the change that's been going on with interest rates, population growth, things like that.
But you also have to take into account, you talked about the previous generation, right?
You could eat bologna on Wonder Bread and get a 1,200-square-foot house, which was the average house back in the day.
You could get that for really just a song these days.
I'm assuming that's not what you're looking at.
Yeah.
They say even, I think, from a year ago to today, or even two years ago, you have to make 80% more income to get, like, the same standard.
And I'm like, oh, well, shoot, my salaries aren't going up 80%.
They're not matching.
Yeah.
They're not matching to what inflation is.
That's two years.
One year.
Yeah.
So I'm like, well... And some people's apartments cost more than our house.
Yes.
Yeah.
So that's really bad, too.
There needs to be more regulation on that.
Well, the problem is there's a lot of regulation and their business is too big to fail.
BlackRock and Vanguard are buying up a lot of homes and turning them into rental units.
It's not people buying houses.
It is companies that, frankly, don't necessarily have America's best interest at heart.
That's true.
Are there some laws to ban that?
You're not seeing anything severe coming out of the pipeline.
Yeah, because they're too big to fail, right?
These people are part of the World Economic Forum and of course huge supporters of this administration and they'll receive favorable policies.
But I would say there's, I agree with you on a lot of that, it's about $12,000 actually.
An American family right now, just as far as groceries and day-to-day items, needs $12,000 more than they were making in 2019 to live the exact same and purchase the same
groceries.
But the flip side of that is, again, you mentioned even like organic food.
That was not an option too. So you also have more options now where you can live far out from the city,
get something for really inexpensive. I think expectations, again,
some of the broken promises come into play. So it's not all bad.
But I would agree with you that there's been a shift and a lot of people here have been saying,
you know what, I've seen a contrast and my vote is switching.
Yeah.
I think definitely Trump's going to overrule Texas for sure.
Who are you voting for?
If you want to know, I definitely would vote for Trump over Biden.
I mean, if those were the only choices and we can't ride on somebody, like Taylor Swift, right?
Then it would probably lean more towards Trump.
Would you like to be president?
No.
God no.
That's my worst nightmare.
I don't want that at all.
I've grown up in the era of social media where I'm running for president and they would just play something that I've publicly uploaded and be like, is that not you?
They dig deep in your likes and your tweets.
Like this is what you did when you were 12.
Yeah, they don't even need to dig deep for me.
Even Cultural Appropriation Month was just two weeks ago.
But no, I definitely wouldn't shy away from it.
I'm a big fan of what Trump did for the economy.
I held my nose when I voted for him.
He was an unknown.
I would actually disagree with you since you're asking me on the idea of these protests.
I mean, you look at Black Lives Matter, you look at what happened with Antifa, you look at what's happening right now with the pro-Hamas protests.
These are not—these, by the way, they're funded by either foreign entities or AstroTurf, and it's designed to make you think exactly what you think.
Oh my gosh, if Trump gets in, we'll have to deal with riots.
And I don't think that really our democratic republic, our representative republic, should be subject to mob rule.
You should never be afraid to vote because Trump didn't call people to commit those wanton acts of violence.
I mean, that entire summer, right, when they're burning down cities, Anyone could have been president.
But obviously, people, the general population is going to correlate that with Trump's... With the president.
Yeah, with the president.
I think everybody will blame the president no matter what.
But also, we haven't had that kind of hatred and riots since, like, his administration minus the Palestine stuff.
Sure we have, yeah.
That one's pretty bad.
And we had Black Lives Matter before he was coming in, right?
That was a big reason that he won, right?
They were burning down cities, so they just acted up again.
And I think that if you were to ask yourself who has not called for violence versus Kamala Harris and Joe Biden saying they're not going to stop rioting in the streets, nor should they stop.
That's true.
They need to make their voices heard.
I would disagree that I don't think that you're making anything heard by stealing from the
Walgreens and I don't think that has anything to do with Trump.
I think it's just that person's an asshole because there are plenty of people who are
poor in that same neighborhood who have not decided to rob their neighbor.
But that's just my opinion.
That's true.
I think that they do want you to see that and be afraid.
Yes.
And go, gosh, like you've said, economy was better for my own self-interest, to not only my jobs, but as far as America's standing.
Yeah, but I'm afraid because of this violence.
I would ask, if that's kind of the only thing standing in your way, I would ask yourself, well, why is that?
Yeah.
Some people want you afraid.
I would say that's the biggest thing, is the hatred associated with that whole... Do you think he hated anybody, though, Donald Trump?
Do you think he hates anybody?
I don't think so.
I think that he's just a regular person that really wants to make big changes.
But people are perceiving it in a different way.
Everybody is taking what he's doing in different ways.
And not everybody agrees with him.
But I do agree with a lot of the things that he says.
Like, if you're a girl, you're a girl.
If you're a boy, you're a boy.
And I might get a lot of hate for that.
You will!
But that's the truth.
You were born that way.
Is there an issue if you want to change it later on?
No.
Be who you want to be.
But when you're born, the fact that they don't even want to identify a baby anymore?
Yeah.
Like, clearly you're born with a gender, whether you want to believe that's you or not.
That's one thing that I know Trump's pretty strict about.
Yeah, you're gonna have to vote Trump.
You have Biden where he said he thought it was evil for parents to not affirm their children's gender transition.
That's ridiculous.
I don't think children have the mental capacity to make that decision.
They're still growing.
I mean, you have children here wanting to be astronauts.
That's something unrealistic.
So how do you think a child could know what their gender is?
Yes, I think parents have a big influence on what children do and want to be.
Oh yeah.
Also, kids are stupid.
Yeah.
When I was a kid, all I knew was that my parents, this is a true story, my parents, you know, I saw them as roommates.
When I was young, my brother and I shared a room.
Yeah.
And then he was getting his own room.
And then I realized, wait, hold on a second, adults are not, you don't get to be roommates with your brother anymore.
The only roommates I knew were my parents.
So I thought if I grow up, I want to be a woman so I can be roommates with my brother forever.
No.
I just thought like I could just be as I thought they were like no no that's not how that works
We're married and I thought wait when I grow up. I'm gonna have a woman in my house instead of my brother
You can't comprehend it Like playing with like dolls and stuff doesn't mean that
they're like a girl. I just I think that's so stupid I was looking up their skirts.
Yeah, so, like, what do you think, like, a kid playing with a doll, you're gonna call him, like, a girl because, just because that's considered a feminine kind of act?
It's very controversial for sure, and I will say my son is seven years old, and he designs Barbie dresses, and he loves to sew and design, and I just encourage him, but does that mean that he wants to be a girl?
No.
But if I put it in his head that that's girly, then he's gonna believe it.
Right.
So that's all about the parent molding.
They're learning, they're growing, they're taking things in from the environment.
And I don't think politics in the schools should get involved with the children at all.
It shouldn't be in the schools.
So your son designs, he does little Barbie dresses?
Yeah, he cuts them up and he makes them out of balloons, aluminum foil, fabric, whatever he can find to create a fashion dress.
He makes it and it's really awesome most of the time.
As long as you don't tell him he's a girl, you know, that'll come in handy, the fine motor skills, when he has to unhook a bra and he's older.
Oh my god.
I don't even want to think about that, okay?
I was a young parent, so... The alternative could be scarier, is all I'm saying.
Oh my god.
Either that or he lives at home.
I don't think it's either, learn how to unhook a bra or stay at home.
But, the point is well received.
Alright, I know it's hot out here.
I appreciate you all taking the time.
Thank you.
Nice meeting you.
Janice.
Maddie.
Maddie and then... Itze.
Itze.
Ah, I was so close.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
I'm sorry to make you guys be sweating out here.
Get in where it's cool.
Not hot yet, cooled off a little.
Happy birthday, by the way.
Wow, you know, I actually really enjoyed this conversation for a multitude of reasons.
Not that.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
You're better than that.
It turns out that you may gain some new perspective as well as provide some for other people out there regardless of the chasm that you think may exist between you both politically.
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