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April 22, 2024 - Louder with Crowder
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Tucker Calls America Evil | Chaz 2.0 at Columbia | Special Guest Eduardo Bolsonaro
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I never knew how much indecency and filth I'd have to experience just to survive.
You learn just how resilient you are when it's just man versus nature.
When the only thing between you and death is something as simple as a minor cut that can turn into a deadly infection.
Or a little sip of creek water that's been poisoned by the flesh of rotting vermin.
Gives you a new perspective.
Shows you what you're made of.
Yeah, I've been doing fine.
So far.
With my Patriot supply.
And, uh, I think I'll get about another month out of it.
I don't look forward to the day I run out and have to make some hard decisions.
Josh?
Oh, hi Tim.
What the hell are you doing?
What are you doing out here?
I haven't seen you since after the show.
How long have you been here?
Since about noon.
Did you eat a whole month's worth of MyPatriotSupply?
Well, yeah.
I had to keep my energy up.
You know those aren't free, right?
Yeah, call it per diem.
No.
No.
Come on, Tim!
Get $50 off a 4-week kit from MyPatriotSupply by going to prepwithcrowder.com today.
Per diem is a cruel mistress.
We all know that well.
Glad to be with you.
Oh, I was confused because there was a light going on.
It's a reflection off of a pillow.
Huh?
In third chair.
I'll explain it later.
It's completely irrelevant, it doesn't matter.
We have a lot to get to today.
Let's bring up the rundown.
And let me ask you about this.
Where do you all end up?
You know, Tucker Carlson said that anyone who believes there's a justification for dropping the A-bombs that we did in World War II in Japan is evil.
That there's no way to defend that position or to argue it without being evil.
I agree with Tucker on a lot.
I think he's wrong.
I think he's misguided on that one.
Also, let's talk about Colombia here today.
Colombia is Chas 2.0.
They are now occupying an area of Colombia and they hate Jews there.
These are Hamas supporters, sympathizers, and I'm not going to say pro-Palestine.
They're pro-Hamas.
How do I know?
Because they say they're pro-Hamas.
How do I know that they want to enact more October 7th?
Because they say there will be 10,000 more October 7th.
This is going on, and we're going to compare it, by the way, the media has obviously tried to use us to point fingers at Donald Trump in Charlottesville, so that's an important point.
And Eduardo Bolsonaro's on.
He's like the Donald Trump Jr.
of Brazil.
Well, that's pretty cool then.
Kind of.
But he's actually, he also is a representative in Brazil.
Ah, yes.
And there were huge protests.
South America, there's a big groundswell right now in South America against leftism, actual socialism.
Hey, wherever they have lived through it in some capacity, they reject it.
It's just a history of civil conflict and battles and wars and thongs in Brazil.
So if at some point today, they weren't a church group, you see this on YouTube.
Head on over to Rumble.
I was making sure my headphones were okay.
They didn't have a good seal on my ears.
By the way, it's Columbia University.
Columbia is also a hellhole, so I want to make sure that we distinguish between hellholes.
I think I said at Columbia.
You said Columbia.
I didn't say in Columbia.
I said at Columbia.
I don't know.
Which makes it pretty damn clear.
Just saying.
You're trying to correct... It's your first day back, officially.
You were back last week, but then you jettisoned away again.
And your first thing is to call me on that?
Hey, comment below if you think Gerald C. sometimes does a better job, or they both have good qualities.
How about the preposition Nazi over here?
Yeah, I know, exactly.
I know.
Sometimes they both have good qualities?
That's the opposite?
That is the opposite.
Number two, Captain Morgan, how are you, sir?
I was better a second ago.
How's the little one?
He's good.
He's sick.
He's not sleeping very well.
They don't sleep very well in general.
I don't know if you know this about newborns.
Obviously we do.
But then being sick it's like oh you can't breathe as well.
It's tough to deal with.
The good news is you're stronger than him and he can't chase you.
So you can solve the problem.
It's very nice to be able to Leave him in one place and know he will remain there no matter what?
You have far more tools at your disposal to keep him in line.
That's true.
That's all I'm saying.
And when you hear this, you know him, you love him.
In third chair.
You can watch his comedy special, American, on Mug Club.
And you can see his dates at jfirestein.com.
Thank you for your service, Josh.
How are you?
I'm good.
Excellent.
Good to be here.
I like the shirt.
Thank you!
It is a new favorite of mine.
Check that out, everybody.
Yeah, that's old Gerald A. Oh, look at you!
You got the same one!
Wow!
Rain and Gerald!
This is planned!
You knew about this!
You were in on this, weren't you?
I am not in on this coup, but I support it.
Look at his shirt!
Obviously he's not in it.
It's because it's short sleeves.
That's the only reason, be honest.
I don't wear short sleeves on here.
It's the only reason you're not wearing this shirt.
It's unprofessional and immodest.
Hey!
I don't know if you know this, Do you remember the border bill that kind of tried to shoehorn in $60 billion in aid to Ukraine?
They called it the border bill.
I don't know if you know this, but now we're going to provide Ukraine with about $60 billion anyway.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
Oh my god.
So that's happening.
That's expected to basically be finalized.
The price tag went up and they just took a border.
It was $60.06 billion for Ukraine and the border bill.
And now it's just a separate package.
$60.84 billion.
This was always going to happen.
Just so you know.
When people talk about the Swamp, when people talk about the Uniparty, these are platitudes that are often thrown out because, you know, people just like to deal in cliches.
But this is what we're actually dealing with.
It was always going to happen.
There was no way around it.
And here you are.
Sixty billion dollars to Ukraine.
Hey, didn't Zelensky get cut?
Was it a yacht?
Or was it a third house?
Was it a Rolls Royce?
How many of these representatives, how many of these politicians in Ukraine are living high on the hog?
And I don't know if you know this.
What's the number, Joel?
Is it 37 trillion?
I think we're in the high 30 trillion number for national debt.
Right now I think we can fact check that.
I think it's 35 trillion.
We could do higher.
So, we not only don't have money.
34.
We have net negative 34 trillion money.
That's a lot of negative.
And just think about this for a second.
The border bill got scrapped, right?
There was about $20 billion, I believe, that would have gone to the border.
Or, sorry, less.
I think it might have been $14 billion.
I'm getting confused.
$21 billion going to Israel here.
$34 trillion net negative dollars that we have, and we're sending $60 billion to Ukraine and about $20 plus billion to Israel.
Now, let me be really clear with Israel.
We absolutely should support them morally after October 7th.
They have the right to defend themselves.
I don't believe that we should be sending any money to Israel.
Hey, October 7th should never happen again.
I completely agree.
You make sure it doesn't happen, Israel, by any means necessary, and you have my support.
Not a fan of terrorists.
But if you can't do it without $20 billion from a country that's $34 trillion in debt, you have a problem on your hands, not ours.
Don't they have their own money as well?
You would think!
I mean, I'm not trying to, like, play into any stereotypes.
I'm just saying.
Yes.
I thought they had their own money.
Right.
To spend on this.
It's not India.
It's not India.
Does India not have money?
I think it's the money to people ratio.
21 trillion, 21 billion to Israel and 60 billion to Ukraine.
Can you guys, at what point do you say, ah, maybe that's inappropriate spending?
At what point are Republicans useless?
This is actually happening?
Especially the ones that waved Ukrainian flags on the floor.
If any of them did, I know the Democrats were handing them out, but I think some Republicans might have been waving them too.
Yeah, how about no flags on the floor aside from the American flag?
Yeah, just the one.
How about none?
That matters.
Yeah, that's kind of our building, so... You would think so.
Yeah, the red, white, and blue really looks good in there.
It does.
Yeah, as a designer myself, and a fan of interior design, I gotta say, Ukrainian flag blue and yellow does not go together.
If you have a dark blue, white, red, it looks good.
They don't have a good flag.
They don't have a good country.
It's a bad country with a bad flag is my point.
And there's a worse country attacking itself.
Of course!
Because people act like you like Hamas if you say we shouldn't be sending 20 billion.
Is that a defensible position?
Do you understand the difference between people who are actually anti-Semitic, people who actually dislike Jews, and someone who says, yeah, I think they absolutely should have the right to defend themselves, and I absolutely think that Hamas needs to be completely disbanded by any means necessary.
We shouldn't be sending money.
Is that anti-Semitic?
I don't think it is.
I don't think so.
Is it pro-Russia to say, hey Ukraine, defend yourself!
Sixty billion dollars?
I don't know if you know this.
We have issues here.
You know, we have a homelessness problem.
You know, we have a crime problem.
I don't know if you know we have a debt problem.
That's just something that we never seem to take into account.
At what point do we start worrying about our own stuff?
I mean the border issue should be the number one thing that we're spending money on right now.
Not other people's conflicts.
Sorry.
That's us.
Because the money train stops if that isn't fixed.
The rest of the world, in fact, should be sending us aid to secure our border because it appears as though we don't have the funds to be able to do it.
Right.
That would be sick.
That would be nice.
Rest of the world?
Just Ukraine and Israel money.
That's at least four to six border walls.
Maybe even seven, depending on the contractor.
Depending on the contractor.
Think about that for a second.
They have no interest in solving that issue.
You, Americans, say the biggest issue facing this country right now is illegal immigration?
They don't care!
Right now!
Right now!
If they can do this for a bill with you, they could do it for a border wall.
They could do it to deport people who are invading your cities and your towns.
They could do it to stop fentanyl coming through our borders.
They could do it right now.
It would be far cheaper than what we're just saying, let's toss, I don't know, $60 billion on there for Ukraine.
And it's all imaginary money.
Yeah.
Like, just put more imaginary money for a wall.
Right!
Alright, we'll move on here and talk about it.
But, you know, it's just something that just got my goat.
It did!
I just sat here for a moment and just went, what?
You went to the restroom and came back with a Ukraine bill that pissed you off.
I know, I know.
I was like, let's toss this in there.
So this weekend, Tucker Carlson, you know, he was on the Joe Rogan Experience.
It's just always fun.
It's an experience.
It's an experience.
It's an extravaganza, some would say.
For the whole family.
Experience it today.
Yes.
He went on the Joe Rogan program and it's been going viral where he said that
he's going to be a part of it.
is um when he says that anyone who supports it or anyone who thinks that it was justified is evil there's no other way well allow me to present to you that there are other ways and i think two positions here are valid to hold i think it's a far more uneducated opinion as far as loss of life and i'll lay out the case for you all references in saying that no bombs should have been dropped i also think that it's absurd to say the united states should not have Nuclear weapons of any kind when you consider that other nations who would gladly use them if we didn't have nuclear weapons, but we'll get to that.
So here's a clip of Tucker that everyone is talking about.
I'll just admit it.
On the right, you know, I've spent the last 80 years defending dropping nuclear weapons on civilians.
Like, are you joking?
Right.
That's just, like, prima facie evil.
If you can't... Well, if we hadn't done that, then this, that, the other thing, that was actually a great savings.
Like, no, it's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people.
And if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.
Like, it's not a tough one, right?
Is that a hard call for you?
It's not a hard call for me.
So, no one's saying it's good to drop nuclear weapons on anyone.
And that's the strawman that he presents here.
And this is kind of the age of it.
It's really very ex-friendly.
Right?
Just throw that out.
Yeah!
Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah!
Pom-poms!
Okay.
No one's saying that it's good to drop nuclear weapons.
But he's wrong!
He's wrong in that if you estimate the amount of lives lost, you know, it would have been about 5 on the low end to 10 million Japanese people, 400,000 to 800,000 Americans.
As far as the people who were killed by these bombs, about 200,000.
So there is no argument that can be made.
And we'll go through all the sub-arguments.
But even those sub-arguments that you'll hear, like the Japanese were going to surrender anyway, no, it was going to end, World War II was going to end because of Russia, no.
No one is even arguing that you are not looking at several multiples higher of innocent lives lost in a land invasion or if the war had continued.
So, no one's saying it's good to drop nuclear weapons, but I do think that the conversation needs to center on why, and was that the appropriate decision?
Is it morally superior to save millions of lives at that point in time?
Not to mention the fact that we are also dealing with, you know, some of the most grotesque evil that you can possibly imagine if you look at what the Japanese imperialists believed in.
And, of course, notwithstanding the Holocaust, the Nazis, they were, I don't know if you've heard of the Axis of Evil.
But look at how the Japanese and Chinese treated each other during that period of time.
So, you'd have to accept this on its face by completely eliminating the history of Japan and what they believed, and completely eliminating the statistics regarding lives lost.
If you do that, then yes, you can say anyone who believes that the nuclear bombs dropped was the right decision is evil.
Then you can say that.
But you have to acknowledge that first.
Yeah, and what is the difference between an atomic bomb and bombing cities so many times that you kill that many people or more?
Is it just because you have a very effective bomb?
What about the firebombing of Tokyo?
Was that okay, but because it's a nuclear weapon, we shouldn't go to one bomb doing all that damage?
We should at least have to send 50 planes, 100 planes to do that kind of damage?
I don't understand the point that he's even trying to make there.
A, it's wrong on the history, and B, it's wrong just in theory of war.
Right.
What were you saying, Josh?
You could make the argument that one nuclear bomb is more humane.
It is!
People died in an instant.
They didn't even know it was happening.
That's right.
They didn't have to watch their family.
They didn't have to watch their baby I think we would all accept that war is inhumane.
Yes.
Period.
War is inhumane.
throw their baby in front of a tank or something like, you know, whatever crazy stuff they're
going to do. I think we would all accept that war is inhumane.
Yes. Period. War is inhumane.
All of World War II was inhumane. But saving millions of lives, or at least eliminating
the cost, I should say, the future cost of millions of lives through the war continuing as it existed.
Yeah.
Along with, if you look at what happened compared to, you know, we could have used this with Pearl Harbor, the United States military dropped leaflets in Japanese cities.
What?
Before both Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
We did it.
We said, like, hey, hey, just so you know, your leaders hate you and want to use you as human shields.
Please get out of these cities.
Could have used that in Pearl Harbor.
A little bit.
Killing your ships.
What?
They're like, no, we've got torpedoes.
Yeah, they were just... That's actually better.
We can drop them from the plane and kill you guys.
Or fly our planes into you.
That's true.
Yep.
Kamikazes, yeah.
The issue here is, you see this on the populist right a little bit, they want to make it seem as though The United States in World War II was just a bunch of cowboys
riding nukes into Japan for the fun of it.
Okay, there was one guy.
But to be fair, he's gone now, obviously.
He's gone now.
We dealt with it.
Yeah, we did.
So let's go through some of these claims here.
I think this is an interesting history lesson.
A claim that you'll often hear.
Is that the Japanese, we should have never dropped these bombs, even understanding the amount of lives that were... I don't want to say saved, the amount of lives that didn't have to simply be expended.
Right.
The claim they'll make is the Japanese were going to surrender anyway, so there was no need for this.
Ethical debates aside, was the bomb necessary for ending the war?
Well, six of the seven five-star US generals and admirals at that time felt there was no need to drop the bomb because Japanese surrender was imminent.
In fact, a post-war panel of 1,000 experts, including surviving Japanese leaders, concluded Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped.
Okay, here's the truth.
No, they weren't.
They weren't going to surrender, so let me lay this out for you.
Again, all references are available, and I really hope that other people start following suit, so that you don't just hear claims on an Instagram reel, and then believe it to be true.
July 26th, right, the terms of the surrender of the Japanese, they were demanded, they were written out by the United States, China, Britain, at the Potsdam Declaration.
Okay, that's July 26th.
July 28th, the Prime Minister, Japan, Kantaro, rejected it.
Wholesale.
And by the way... In their own words.
Yes.
Basically, you're using their own words.
Yes.
They said, oh, they were going to send her.
He says no.
Right.
He's the Prime Minister.
He said no.
I don't understand whose word to take.
So people telling you this, here's what they do.
They say, oh, there were this panel of experts and this person.
Yeah, sure.
OK.
But the Japanese Prime Minister said no.
No.
So that's kind of relevant, and the terms included some simple things, like removing Japanese leaders who started the war and believed in a pan-pacific superior race, you know, demilitarizing, that Japan would relinquish some of the conquered territory, right?
Things like that.
Democratic norms, simple things!
And we were pretty clear, and by we I mean us, China, Britain, that if the terms were not agreed to, let me read this quote here, the full application of our military power backed by our resolve will mean the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland.
So, this is what transpired.
The idea that they were going to surrender, you'll hear that, I learned that in college, no.
How do I know?
Because they said no.
That's pretty easy.
And I've seen that claim a lot right now on social media.
People are saying, oh, the Japanese were going to surrender anyway.
Obviously, you see it there.
You've seen reports of it.
But people go to that very quickly.
And I even thought, like, were they?
Wait a minute.
No, they weren't going to surrender.
Like, for a second, I was like, wait a minute.
Were they actually going to surrender?
No, we would have to spend hundreds of thousands of more lives to get them to surrender, including millions of their own.
Well, let's ask the Japanese Prime Minister.
Yeah.
Oh, he says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I like how that equips the black guy that speaks with a British accent.
Four generals thought that they were going to surrender, so that must make it true.
Yeah, apparently they didn't actually listen to the Japanese Prime Minister when he said, no, no surrender.
They weren't in on it.
How about some surrender?
Zero surrender.
If this is surrender, this is zero. We're over here now.
Zero. Zero, like our plane. Yes.
Drive right to the end of the battle. Yes, that's right.
Crash. Jesus. Here's another claim that they will make, okay?
And again, this is, you have to believe it, to assume that anyone who believes the dropping of these bombs Was at least a calculated risk that was reasonable at the time.
You have to accept all of these premises to believe that anyone who support would be evil.
That's what we're dealing with here.
You'll hear this claim a lot.
I heard this claim quite a bit.
There was no need at the very least for a second bomb in Nagasaki.
The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the Atomic Age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima, and before the Russian entry into the war.
The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military standpoint, in the defeat of Japan.
Okay.
Here's the truth.
Nagasaki had to happen because of exactly what happened after Hiroshima.
In other words, it had to happen because Hiroshima, or sorry, Hiroshima happened.
What's the right way?
Is it Hiroshima or Hiroshima?
I've been corrected no matter which way I say it.
I think Hiroshima is how you say it in a British accent.
Oh, okay.
Hiroshima, you know how they like to make it, but Hiroshima!
I try to put myself in their sumo shoes.
I try to put myself in their thong.
Like you do with Brazilians.
I do the same thing with Japanese.
Yes, of course.
Either way, it's all a good visual.
So, the Japanese leaders after Hiroshima, they didn't believe that the Americans had more than one bomb.
And there was no plan for surrender after it happened, to be clear.
They didn't offer to surrender until after, uh, I believe it was August 10th.
And that was one day, coincidentally, after Nagasaki.
Jeez.
And there were more leaflets between, I believe, you were talking about.
Yes, there were more leaflets before Nagasaki.
That was us saying like, hey, we counted to three!
Yeah.
Two?
It sounds like we counted to like 12.
Yeah, at that point.
11, 12, 28.
We kept counting.
We gave them every single option.
No plans for surrender.
They didn't contact us and say, hey, hey, hey, let us think about it.
We don't want another city to be, you know, blown up, especially not Kyoto.
By the way, we're still not going to surrender.
They just didn't do anything.
Right.
So what is the point?
If you are not going to get them to surrender this way, you have to go to the other option, land invasion.
Right.
Already seen the numbers for that.
So drop another one.
Yes.
And we'll get to numbers on that again when we get to the claim of Russia was basically going to be the catalyst for ending World War II, which they often make and people have made on this very show.
And you were also dealing with the people.
This is one thing we've talked about.
A lot of people just think that the Germans and the Nazis, I should say, Because not every Nazi was a German, not every German was a Nazi, but a lot of people just think that the Nazis were the only people in that war who believed in a superior race.
So did the Japanese.
And they believed in a superior pan-Asian race that didn't include the Chinese.
So as racist as you think we are here in the United States, you know, if you listen to The Squad or go to Columbia, I don't think you understand that the Japanese and Chinese were far more racist against each other and believed that the other was subhuman and treated them subhumanely.
And by the way, the Japanese believed that they were a superior race, and then of course the Aryans did, which, if that war continued and they were the only men left standing, would have been a very awkward tiebreaker.
Oh, Germany probably would have won that, I'm sorry.
Well, I don't know, it's a volume game.
It's a height.
It's a height game.
It's a volume game as well.
Height and meth.
They didn't invent meth, that's good.
They did, they used a lot of meth.
Well, that's how they got the kamikaze pilots to go.
They just got the meth out of their mind and just aimed them.
Aim them east!
West!
I HATE NINJAS!
The Japanese had meth too.
They all had meth.
They all had unbelievable amphetamines.
You're dealing with people, think about what a kamikaze pilot is.
They are willing to kill themselves and their leaders are willing to toss their own people to use them as bodies simply for a greater cause, which ultimately includes a superior race.
The kamikaze issue with the Japanese, it was very, very difficult.
Uh, facing that at that point in time.
It was also surprising.
Um, and unfortunately, uh, someone in our office, uh, tried using the technique for himself.
All right.
No pepperoni.
No pepperoni?!
God!
This is the last time they're ever gonna do this to anyone!
It just doesn't work in the modern world.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
But it is surprising.
It's not surprising to see that at Little Caesars.
Wasn't it under the cheese?
Don't get us started on that.
Toolman, what are you doing?
Okay, Canadians, comment below.
You may not know this, America, but another argument as to what an abomination to the modern sensibility the Canadian people are.
They put their pepperoni under the cheese.
You said it like it's crazy, but that's what a deep dish is, isn't it?
Well, but you know that it's... You know, it's part of the unwritten agreement that we have with Big Deep Dish.
That's right.
They just put the pepperoni under the cheese, and I was actually on a film set one time, it was AD, he was liberal, he was a nice guy, and he was talking to me, and he was eating, and as he was talking to me, he's, well, I've been a vegetarian for 19 years, I guess that's over.
Oh no, he's going to vegetarian hell.
I go, what?
He goes, it's under the cheese.
It's under the cheese.
I go, oh!
The pepperoni.
Yeah, we do that.
Why?
Do you put all your toppings under the cheese?
No, just pepperoni.
Why?
Probably because, you know what?
Probably they don't like vegans.
I don't know.
It's kind of funny.
It's a sneaky pepperoni.
Hold on, if that's the reason, I am now a fan of pepperoni.
And it is soggy, and then the oil gets under the cheese.
It's just, and we used to call.
We used to call in Canada, and we would order a pizza and say, please put the pepperoni on top of the cheese.
And in French, in Quebec, they'd be like, On top of the cheese?
What the?
You crazy, man?
Everyone knows it goes under the cheese.
You want it soggy, soft, and full of oil.
Oil.
Please, comment, Canadians.
If it's just Quebec, I don't know why.
I don't know why, but we need to drop atomic bombs in Canada.
It's a wacky place.
If it's a troll on vegetarians, then we need to embrace it.
They didn't think that far ahead.
I don't think so.
I don't think Canadians think that far ahead at all.
Just look at their military, and we appreciate all of you.
A very small amount.
Especially those beaches you get to walk ashore on.
We can go back to that another day.
It's tough.
All right.
Here's another claim that you will hear regarding the A-bombs being dropped.
The war actually ended.
It had nothing to do with the atomic bombs dropped.
You'll hear this a lot now through revisionist history.
It actually ended and certainly would have ended very quickly because of Russia's intervention.
The conventional view supported by orthodox historians mostly follows the mainstream post-war American perspective.
that the bombs were the decisive factor in the Japanese surrender.
What?!
But other historians have argued a different view, that the intervention
of the Soviet Union in the Pacific War on August 9th, 1945, the same day as the Nagasaki bombing actually triggered the
Japanese surrender and arguably made the bombs unnecessary.
What?
So the idea that Russia would have ended the war It would have been the reason for the war ending.
We didn't need to drop the bombs.
Here's the truth.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And best case scenario, I would return you to our previous point.
You still would have been looking at five to ten million Japanese lives lost in a land invasion.
Just to be clear, Japan was spared from really this Soviet invasion, if we're going to talk about that in a hypothetical.
The Soviets were preparing to invade Occupy Hokkaido, Japan's second largest island.
Stalin even asked Truman for permission, but was denied.
It's almost like that might be relevant in The bombs being dropped when making a military decision.
Two days before that invasion, Stalin then called it off, but it was very clear that that was what they wanted to do.
500,000 Japanese died at the hands of Soviets in Asia after World War II.
After.
After.
Ended.
Do you understand what they would have done?
Japan kicked the crap out of Russia prior to this.
They were killing people, the Chinese in Manchuria, left and right.
In Korea, they hated them as well.
Russia was coming back for payback.
Yes.
They were going to do in Japan what they had done through Eastern Europe.
Yes.
On their way to Germany.
More Japanese died at the hands of Russians after World War II than were killed by the A-bombs.
Think of that.
500,000 versus about 200,000.
Two and a half times!
Yeah, think about that.
And also, something else to keep in mind, imagine what would have happened once the Soviets had occupied Japan.
Look, we can see the Soviet influence anywhere else when you talk about Korea.
When you talk about, for example, you talk about Cuba.
A weakened Soviet Union, when their communism had influence anywhere, tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people died.
And that's not, of course, including the tens of millions who died at the hand of Stalin.
So not only were they planning on aggressively going into Japan and killing as many people as they could and writing wrongs and evening the score, but then you have to deal with the influence of communism and the ineptitude and the tens of millions of people who died as a result, whether you look at Stalin, whether you look at Mao.
So either way, far more lives would have been lost.
It's very important.
Here's, by the way, George Kennan also wrote this of the Soviet Union in The Long Telegram, which is a famous, you've probably heard of it, it's not the app, where he said, unlike that of Hitlerite Germany, is neither schematic nor adventuristic, it does not work by fixed plans, it does not take unnecessary risks, impervious to logic of reason, and it is highly sensitive to logic of force.
That's what he was writing about the Soviet Union.
You can also see what Patton had to say about the Asiatics, not talking about the Japanese, he was talking about the Russians back then.
Think about this for a second.
To say that anyone who believes or maintains the position that these bombs being dropped is evil is to ignore the far, far greater death count.
And that is irrefutable that you would have with a land invasion.
It discounts the fact that the United States dropped leaflets on these Japanese cities.
It completely omits the fact that you had a Prime Minister who was not planning on surrendering.
It completely omits the fact that you had a nation that believed in a superior race, who were happy and willing to torture other Asians, by the way, who didn't get on with their imperialistic view, and attack the United States on its own soil at this point, and they were hell-bent on continuing and marching.
You have to put yourself at that moment in time, and also to be clear, if you read Truman's writings, this is not something he took lightly.
And I'm not saying, great leader, I'm not saying he didn't make mistakes, but this is not something where he just wanted to do it.
It's not a Raytheon contract and big military.
No, this was a big decision at that point in time where, okay, do we want to put an end to this because we know how many lives are going to be lost?
I think an argument can be made, maybe both ways, but I just think to say that people who believe it was the right decision are evil, No.
You can comment below.
I think a little bit of a history lesson is important.
And I think that, you know, in this case, I think Mr. Carlson knows that.
Yeah.
I think he knows that and he's omitting it on purpose because it's a better click.
Yeah, I agree.
It's going to get a lot more people talking.
But he also said something else that made me completely disregard his opinion on this as being somebody who Should know better than to make a point like this.
I think we potentially have a video of it if we need to bring it up.
But he basically said that the United States should not have nuclear weapons.
Right.
Why we should not have them in the clip when he was talking with Joe Rogan making the case that the United States.
Now, if you want to make the case that nuclear weapons should not exist.
Sure.
Period.
on the planet and that they can't possibly exist.
Fine, I can understand the logic behind that.
But to say that the United States should not have the weapons
and that we should be putting all of our efforts and resources into preventing
things that would necessitate the use of nuclear weapons, that's stupid.
Because other people do have them.
Right.
Look at all the countries where they've given up nukes.
We had, I think, bases in Ukraine at one point.
The United States did, about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
That was one of the things I believe that we did.
There were some other bases in the area.
Don't fact check me if I'm wrong on that.
Shut up.
Just shut up.
And I think Turkey was part of the problem too.
Look at Libya when they gave up their nukes.
Look at North Korea right now.
The only reason North Korea isn't just Korea is basically China and that they have nukes in North Korea and will nuke Seoul if they're invaded potentially.
Right.
That's it!
When people give up their weapons and other people have them, it's a massive problem.
Tucker, you're an idiot for saying that.
I don't need to know anything else you need to say about nukes and World War II.
If you say the United States shouldn't have them, that's naive.
You're now in the climate catastrophe group that says everybody else should basically upend their economy, spend trillions of dollars, and kill people for doing it, but China's never going to do anything, and so it's the climate change thing.
You're in that group now.
You're in the climate change scam group to me, because it's not going to solve itself, because China will never do anything about it.
Same thing with the nukes that other countries have.
Well, maybe Tucker means to say that no one should have to- He didn't say that, though!
Well, let's go to the clip.
Maybe that's what he meant to say.
Let me see the clip, and maybe that's what he meant to say.
I'm going to turn something off a little bit.
I apologize.
We need audio.
Yeah, we can't just look at his.
I mean, I see him.
I see him doing stuff.
We need audio.
Yeah, we can't just look at his.
I mean, I see him.
With that in mind, like, why would you want nuclear weapons?
It's, like, just a mindless, childish sort of intellectual exercise to justify, like, oh no, it's really good because someone else will get it.
How about no?
How about, like, spending all of your effort to prevent this from happening?
Spend more effort on that Partridge family haircut.
I'm sorry.
If you mean spending the effort on stopping nuclear proliferation abroad, Sure, but let me ask you this.
Okay, hypothetical scenario.
We get rid of our nukes.
All right.
Then we spend a bunch of money on trying to get other countries to get rid of their nukes.
So you could do that one of, let's just split it into two camps.
I know I've been accused of A or B thinking.
You could try and do it through diplomacy.
Like, hey guys, you got nukes there?
You ever think about not having them?
I'll get rid of mine if you get rid of yours.
No, but we've already gotten rid of ours in this scenario.
So, and they say no.
Right?
Likely kill you.
Hopefully don't rape you, but they can, because they can do whatever they want.
They have nukes, you don't.
Okay, situation number two is militarily, let's try and stop, I don't know, places like Iran from using, or proliferating and using nuclear weapons.
Militarily, again, they get to the point where they have nukes and we don't.
I don't know, it's kind of one of those choose your own paths book, but every path leads to you being sodomized against your will.
I was just going to say death.
Sodomized might be worse.
It's just not realist.
It's like playing baseball when only one team has bats.
Yeah.
It doesn't make any sense to me, and he knows better than that.
Well, let me ask you this.
Right now, if the United States completely gets rid of our nukes, what do you think happens?
We shut down, get rid of our nukes, disarm them tomorrow.
Oil stops being sold in dollars immediately.
Good point.
Comment below what you think happens.
Is the world better off for the United States disarming their nuclear weapons tomorrow?
I'm curious.
Maybe I have a blind spot here.
I think that dropping nuclear weapons, I think it was of course a tragedy.
A lot of life was lost.
I think that given the circumstances, given the history, it made sense at the time and it certainly was a net savings as far as Innocent lives lost.
And I think that today, for the United States to disarm their nuclear weapons, to basically destroy them, when we live in a world where other people who would gladly destroy the United States and Western civilization because they have nuclear weapons, I don't see that as a net gain.
I don't see how that ends well.
As a matter of fact, I can't imagine a scenario where it ends in anything other than innocent lives lost and you no longer living in the United States of America.
That's the only conclusion that I can see.
Comment below.
I could be wrong.
I could have a blind spot.
But this is one of those things where it just, this is the idea of algorithms and click and a brain that's not even real putting something in front of you and you go, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Let's just think it through.
Let's go one click deeper and think it through.
I think it's important.
And we make all the references available at loudearthcreditor.com.
I know a scenario where it makes sense to get rid of all the nukes.
Globalism.
Everyone under one flag, why you need nukes?
Yep.
Oh, how convenient.
I mean, I don't see how you can't, you would basically have to apply it to, I don't think anyone should have a gun.
I think you should focus on making sure that nobody else has guns.
It's the same argument being used at that point.
Okay, but again, if I don't have a gun and someone has a gun who has openly said they want to harm me, I really only have two ways to approach them and attempt to disarm them.
Through talking it out, in which case I likely get sodomized against my will, or through some kind of, well, in his case, armed conflict and me unarmed conflict, in which case it likely ends with me being sodomized against my will.
Who are you fighting that does sodomy as the punishment?
Well, it's old sodomy, Stephen.
Sounds like you know him.
It's like, if I lose the war, kill me and be done with it.
No, no, no, sir.
We're gonna take our time.
We got things to do.
We clearly had a plan.
You've earned this.
They'll get there.
I don't, it's one of those things where if I see people even echoing, I go, I just, I just, maybe I have a blind spot and I'm more than happy to entertain it.
And none of this happens, by the way, without you.
Yeah.
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And hey, you know what?
We have people there at Mug Club who share Tucker's view.
Isn't that wonderful?
And we're still friends.
We are.
And we all get to work together because, well, we work well together, but we don't play well with others.
So it's fun, and neither do you.
We appreciate the support.
And of course, we have the investigative unit right now working on some pretty interesting, chasing down some pretty interesting leads.
Okay.
Speaking of interesting, I don't know if you know this, but Columbia University, not the country, It's basically a terrorist sleeper cell at this point.
So this is what we're dealing with.
You've probably seen this on social media, but I'd like to put a timeline on it and clarify to you exactly what's going on.
And let's also bring the attention back to the fact that the people, every time you see one of these assholes, and allow me to rephrase, assholes out there, protesting saying we are Hamas and basically a full-throated defense of October 7th and you see Jews being harassed on campus.
I want you to remember that this administration wants to forgive these assholes of their loans through your tax dollars.
So don't separate yourself from what's happening here like oh my gosh crazy because you'll see this like man that's why they've lost their mind in San Francisco Columbia you couldn't pay me to go there no no you're paying so someone else can go there And do exactly what you see on X right now.
That's your money.
As a matter of fact, one could argue the only reason they're able to be professional assholes, allow me to rephrase, professional assholes, is through your tax dollars.
And sometimes we just separate it.
Again, that thirty-five, thirty-four, sorry, trillion dollars of debt.
So, let's go through this, and I don't use this term loosely as far as actually anti-Semitic, what's going on right now.
Actual hatred of Jews.
These pro-Hamas, not pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas protests have been going on at Columbia University now for a while, and now they've turned into full-on encampments, like Chaz.
Remember Chaz?
That ended swimmingly.
Chop.
Chaz became Chop?
I can't remember which one it ended up in.
It was a Chop that became Chaz.
Anyway, you remember this.
This is in Seattle area.
That's what's happening in Columbia.
So here's just a montage to sort of brief you on this encampment and kind of the greatest hits
this is.
Yes it is.
We can send them there.
out with sleeping bags and umbrellas. The Gaza Solidarity encampment was cleared
out on Thursday. The university called police in because it said students were
violating school rules and creating a harassing environment.
More than a hundred arrests were made. That didn't stop students from
starting to look like Gaza.
And rebuilding their demonstrations. We can send them there.
Those tents they bought at REI. Their student loan or their daddy's money.
Or our money.
Taxpayer funded.
Right.
Some of those tents are quite lavish, actually.
They are?
It's like a four-person tent.
Also, Ilhan Omar's daughter was amongst those arrested and suspended.
No word yet from her uncle slash dad.
So it took...
She married her brother!
I don't care what Snopes says, you can see the marriage certificate, we've provided it to you ad nauseum.
Every now and then, wait, she married her brother and no one brings it up?
Wait, Eric Swalwell is still a representative?
Wasn't he banging Chinese spies?
Only multiple?
The answer is yes!
It's yes!
It took this administration five days to do anything, and all they did was condemn the anti-semitism, not the actual violent protests not the actual assaults and harassment going on just to condemn kind of anti-semitism in general they have not been very firm and of course the media gushed and said wow what a great response from the wonderful unifier
And here's something important, because right now you're seeing this on campus, and you're seeing it on multiple campuses.
There was a guy who was stabbed in the eye with, I believe, a Palestine flag at Yale.
Geez.
Yeah.
Think about that for a second.
Whoa.
Stabbed in the eye at Yale?
With a flag post.
Not in jail, at Yale.
At Yale.
Yeah, I know.
Oh, you're doing the Puerto Rican way.
I went to Yale.
It's pronounced jail.
Uh-huh.
Got an eight-year degree.
Yes.
So when asked about these protesters, what they try and do is pivot and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he was worse.
He was worse.
And the media then, of course, carries their water.
Karine Jean-Pierre said, you know, yeah, Hamas, something, something, Colombia.
But, you know, what inspired former Vice President Biden to become president was Charlottesville.
This actually happened.
Believe your lion eyes.
And the reason why he ran has been very clear about what he witnessed in Charlottesville.
Let's not forget what we saw, the anti-Semitism, the bigotry, the hate that we saw in the street of Charlottesville.
Biden's so selfless.
Yes.
Ma'am, I believe the question was about Hamas and Columbia University.
Can you tell us about Uncle Joe's dad being eaten alive in World War II?
Well, that's what they did there.
He did say it.
Cannibalism.
Yes.
Was he talking about the Andes?
Apparently that's where it all happened.
No, it's different.
This brings me back to the media still keeps us alive, just like January 6th.
Charlottesville.
Charlottesville.
Praising white supremacists.
Donald Trump.
Charlottesville.
Praising white racists.
Neo-Nazis.
Charlottesville.
Trump.
Trump.
Here's the thing, and this is why correcting this lie always matters, because they try.
It's like a turd in a punch bowl.
Donald Trump, at that moment in time, in real time, directly addressed and condemned, in no uncertain terms, neo-nazis and white supremacists. Here's what the media
does not show you. I know you've seen it, but this is just so you can share it with other people who
still believe that line.
You also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group,
excuse me, excuse me, I saw the same pictures as you did.
You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of to them a very, very
important statue. And I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists because they
should be condemned totally.
Pretty clear.
So, the equivalent from Joe Biden or Kareem Jean-Pierre would be, of course, anyone on campus, whether it's Yale, Columbia, saying that they are pro-Hamas in any capacity, or calling for the destruction of Israel, or occupying giant swaths of the campus, making Jews uncomfortable because they want to make Jewish students uncomfortable.
Of course, all of those people, including Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, the anti-Semitic troops, they are there to be condemned completely and totally.
If she were to say that, then she could say, and of course we also believe that there are two sides to every issue, and there are some people who believe in, you know, different history or different sort of allotments of land as it deals with Palestine and Israel.
No, no, but you have to start with stabbing someone in the eye with a Palestine flag needs to be condemned totally.
What's happening in Colombia, the violent protest, needs to be condemned totally.
That would be the equivalent to what President Trump did then.
But of course the media still wants you to believe that he never did that, right?
They try and tell you that he supported and defended white supremacists.
So that that way you don't have the contrast available to you of this administration not condemning with the same kind of zeal these terrorists?
I don't know.
I say terrorists, but you know what?
You be the judge.
This is what's been going on on campus.
We are the people who shall not be slain.
Remember the 7th of October!
Never forget the 7th of October!
Never forget the 7th of October!
Not 1 more time!
Not 5 more times!
Not 10 more times!
Not 100 more times!
Not 1,000 more times!
Not 10,000 times!
Now see, when I first watched that clip, before I got to the very end, I thought it was going to go this way.
October 7th!
Remember October 7th!
I'm thinking he's going to say, like, never forget.
You know, October 7th, not one more time, not two more times, not ten more times, but never again!
Yeah, no.
That's what I thought he was going to say.
Exactly.
I said, but ten thousand more times!
I'm like, oh shit, he's a terrorist.
I love how his buddy next to him that was trying to chant was, when he got to 100, he's like, I gotta break in.
I don't know where this guy's gonna stop.
Well, he couldn't count.
That's what it was.
He's like, I don't know what comes next.
A hundred?
Thousand?
Ten thousand?
Two million?
Not a hundred more times?
Ten million?
He was only at tens, by the way.
Yeah, he was only going by tens.
That's true.
He was very Canadian.
Very metric, you know.
One million more times!
Ten million more times!
Okay, look, if someone on campus with their face covered advocates for October 7th any more times, no student loan forgiveness at very least, and I also think they should be in a padded cell.
How about that?
Not one dollar forgiven!
Not ten dollars forgiven!
Not a hundred!
You get it.
Yes!
Nothing!
No gender studies degrees forgiven!
No!
And of course, here we are this morning, the Columbia president forced all of their students to go remote because of the threats that are taking place.
And here's another key fact that I think you guys kind of need to keep in mind.
It sucks, but Columbia brought this on itself in a lot of ways.
You know, Columbia, they went completely full DEI after George Floyd.
To give you an idea, we can bring up this reference here.
They started upping the recruitment of underrepresented groups, and they have the lowest, as a result, percentage of white students of all Ivy League schools.
Wow.
They have the highest percent of international students of all Ivy League schools.
They've been prioritizing activism over education for a very long time.
They're They're pass or fail over there in Columbia.
Oh, I'm sure.
Jokes on both of you.
They don't believe in standardized testing.
Oh, no.
It's all based on your thesis.
And they don't check for grammar, either.
Or cover letter.
What is it that you write?
You have to write an essay?
Bibliography.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
A thesis?
I don't know what the... I didn't go to college.
Wow.
That's okay.
PPS report?
Neither did these kids.
This idea that now it's like college-educated versus not.
It's a completely irrelevant question at this point.
It's like when you fill out the gun form and it says, what's your race?
White, Caucasian.
Then it also asks you to check off not Latino, which I will say is the one kind of racist policy I think we still have here in the United States.
Yeah, that's a weird one, right?
What is up with the white, non-Latino?
Can't they just be their own people?
It's two times they ask you.
They're not like, are you white?
Like, are you sure you're not Asian?
So, this is also something important to keep in mind when you see this.
You're paying for it, right?
These are the same kids who demand that you pay off their student loans.
Hey, look, protesting or civil disobedience usually means you have some skin in the game, and this is how you know these people aren't actually protesting.
This is how you know these people aren't real, in the sense that none of this is Let me think.
They're professional protesters who would be protesting anything they could find so long as they didn't have to risk anything.
If you go to Selma, you have people who are being arrested, you have people who are being bitten by German shepherds and hit with fire hoses because they wanted to eat a piece of pie at the diner.
Look at Rosa Parks!
And having to get, well actually in her case she didn't even have to get up off her ass, but you understand what I'm saying.
She had something to risk at that point in time.
Harriet Tubman, you look at the civil rights, you look at even the women's suffrage movement, right?
These were people who were being imprisoned at that point in time.
These were people who were having the IRS at one point, you know, close in on them.
Right now you're dealing with people on these campuses who have no skin in the game.
They've never paid taxes.
They're on campus and they're demanding that you foot the bill for their professional protesting.
There's no risk for them.
Not at all.
That's not a protest.
That's not civil disobedience.
That's you being a leech.
It's a very, very different dynamic.
I've talked about this in the past with immigration.
They say, what about the Statue of Liberty?
Bring us your cold, your tired, your hungry, your poor.
I get it.
Very, very different when people are leaving their country, coming to this country, because they're taking a risk with no promise of anything in return.
The only promise is freedom.
You want to go to this land of opportunity, you take your own chance.
Dynamic change, right?
That from a modern welfare state.
There's pre-welfare state immigration, post-welfare state immigration.
Two very different things.
There's you're risking your skin, your finances, right?
You have some skin in the game, civil disobedience, protest, and none of that while demanding you get paid to do it.
Through the taxpayer dime.
Two very, very different dynamics.
One, even if I disagree with the reason for protest, is respectable.
Because it's someone making a stand.
What stand are you making when you don't believe you should take responsibility for the loans that you took out for a degree that nobody wants while you sit there and harass Jews on campus?
What risk?
How can I respect that?
So really quickly, as much as I want you to excoriate these people even further, our guest is ready and does have kind of a hard out, so we probably need to jump down to that and then come back to this maybe for Mug Club if we want to... Okay, one final quick point, right?
These kids, Columbia students, they have the second highest average debt in all of Ivy League schools, just to be clear.
And all this is crazy because at the exact same time in Gaza, Hamas has been holding protests against gender studies degrees.
So it's one of the... Look, hey, we all have our reasons.
At least they have skin in the game.
Okay, we have our guest on right now?
We do.
Alright, so maybe we can run some of these clips with Mr. Eduardo Bolsonaro regarding South America.
This man, of course, is one of the most popular men in Brazil.
Let me make sure I have his title correct.
He's actually, well, he actually received 1.9 million votes being a member of Brazil's Chamber of Deputies.
I guess most votes in 2018, 1.9 million votes, the most votes for any legislator in Brazilian history.
That's fantastic.
Some would say popular.
And now we have Eduardo Bolsonaro on this program.
Apparently a lot of people in Brazil.
There's an uprising there right now.
You're seeing this across South America.
And I'd love to ask him more, but why did I say I'd love to ask him?
Well, you will.
I'm about to ask him.
Let's bring on Eduardo Bolsonaro.
♪ Mr. Bolsonaro, can you hear me and see me, sir?
Yes, Steve.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to talk with your great audience.
I'm very sad because Rumble is not here in Brazil anymore, and I really appreciate that you are now on YouTube, I guess because of me and the Brazilian audience.
Thank you for that.
No, I appreciate it.
And we're largely on Rumble because I'm sure we'll be banned here on YouTube very shortly.
So, Mr. Bolsonaro, first off, can you tell people, for people here in the States, I know people in Brazil are very familiar with you, but for people in the States, kind of who you are, your background, just a snapshot, because I think it's pretty cool.
Thank you, thank you.
I'm the third son of President Jair Bolsonaro.
I'm a lawyer, also a federal police officer, which in Brazil, we do not have the same work of the feds that you have in the United States.
It's a totally different work.
We take care of the border, drugs, airports, ports, and some other federal crimes.
And since 2014, I'm a federal representative.
In the house here in Brazil, and in 2018 I became the most voted ever congressman in the history of Brazil, and I'm also former chairman of the Foreign Affairs and National Defense Committee.
So that's it, I guess.
That's all!
I had a lot of other stories to talk to you about, but in general, that's it.
That's your resume.
It's short, as you say.
It's a short resume, but it's okay.
So, look, you are in Brazil, and right now in South America we see this Groundswell, right?
We just saw these protests in the streets of Brazil over the left-wing president Lula and then we saw in Colombia protests over the left-wing president Gustavo Petro.
We'll show some of these clips later or you can maybe bring it up as b-roll if you want to put it on silent so we don't distract from it here.
I'd like to ask you, do you have an update on, yeah look at these protests for crying out loud, on this last weekend's protests in Brazil?
Because a lot of Americans have not been following that.
They don't understand, you know, what's been happening in Brazil and of course Bolsonaro, your father, immensely popular.
It's unbelievable the size of it.
Yes, and it shows a lot of not only the support for Bolsonaro, remembering that my father, he's not the president anymore, and the Superior Electoral Court decided in a record time that he's not capable anymore to run for president in the next election of 2026.
And this is not because he was accused of Still something, bribery, nothing like that.
It's because he had a meeting with ambassadors and he criticized the electoral process of Brazil.
So in Brazil there are some things that you cannot debate, like vaccines, like electoral process, and things like that.
Because actually, the people who are controlling Brazil, and I have to tell you, the Justice from the Supreme Court, Alexandre de Moraes, who is also the President of the Superior Electoral Court in Brazil, he decides about what you can talk and about what you cannot talk in social media.
So this is the problem.
They want their Very aggressive, trying to control the society, trying to control the debate.
And this is hurting even Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is having a problem now because he's saying that he was receiving some orders from this justice, Alexandre de Moraes, to block people on social media in two hours. And if he doesn't do that, he
will receive a fine of $20,000 every day. And it happened mainly in the electoral time in
Brazil, in October of 2022. So this is the mess coming out there now in Brazil by the voice of
Elon Musk. And he said that when this justice from the Supreme Court was ordering acts
to block profiles, to block users, he was saying that to the users do not know that
these orders were coming from Right.
So he was saying, hey, block these people, but do not let them know that me, Alexandre de Moraes, is blocking them.
Right.
And this is only one of the illegal things that he done.
Well he's actually pushing now, Marias, for people who don't know, pushing for a complete ban on X altogether to fight so-called, what he says, you know, digital militias and Rumble is no longer available in Brazil because they've been asked, you know, we've talked about this, they've been asked to remove certain content creators and they say that they won't actually play ball with that.
Let me ask you this, given that that's kind of what's going on and that Lula, you know, the current person in charge, has some control over media in Brazil, How are Brazilian citizens able to get both sides of the story right now?
Because given all that, it's shocking to see that many people in the street, let alone anyone at all, considering the control of media that they seem to have in the left right there in Brazil.
Did you remember, Steve, in the beginning of the WhatsApp, when you have the possibility to forward messages as many people as you'd like to do forward?
Yes, my grandmother at that point would forward me pictures of a prairie dog's testicles, so I wasn't a huge fan, but that was just, that was with the internet.
Imagine that, a company that works with communication, reducing the capability of their tools to do communication with others.
Everything about that, I do believe it was trying to reduce the power of not only Jerry Bolsonaro, but all of the other conservatives in Brazil and maybe all around the world.
Because we are doing great in social media.
And with the social media, it was the content necessary to bring up some light and stop with the monopoly of the information of the mainstream media.
So if you follow what is going on in Brazil, first they try to say that you are fascist, nazi, racist and all of that.
And it didn't work.
Now they're trying to censor you.
And here in Brazil, they are bringing people to the prison because of that.
And I'm not only talking about the January 8th that we had here in Brazil.
That pretty much looks like what you had in the United States on January 6th.
But here in Brazil, no one died.
There was no weapon.
Not even one gun seized.
Not even one shot.
Absolutely nothing.
And a lot of people that went to the prison here in Brazil, they arrested in the same day almost 2,000 people.
A big part of them, they were camped in front of a military headquarters, kilometers far away from the Three Powers Square, where happened the invasion of the Congress, of our White House, and the Supreme Court.
So what they are basically trying to do is to kill a spontaneous movement.
That was leaded, or actually is leaded, by Jerry Bolsonaro.
So when Bolsonaro goes to the streets and calls people to protest together with him in Copacabana Beach, like yesterday, what we are showing to the people is, OK, if it was a fair election that we had in 2022, what are the voters and the supporters of the number one, the guy who won the election, Lula da Silva?
Right.
It's unbelievable because he has no support.
And my father, he has a huge support still if he's not non-eligible.
Right.
Well, let me ask you this.
Since they've made him ineligible at this point, and of course they've done this with the sort of tacit support of the United States government, right?
They're obviously far more Lula fans than Bolsonaro.
It's just interesting that anyone in our government would have a dog in that fight.
Raises questions and certainly seems to be, I guess, eerily similar to the election here in the United States.
How are people like you and your dad in Brazil?
Because in the United States, a lot of people here feel as though they're helpless to fight
back policy-wise, right?
We just saw 60 billion go to Ukraine.
But they do feel as though, okay, at least we can speak on X now and rumble as an alternative.
So there's something there.
With you guys, you don't have access to rumble.
They're trying to ban X.
Your dad's been made ineligible.
What is it that you guys are doing or can do to fight back against this corrupt government's
actions?
We have to be smart, because at least they have to use any kind of thing, even legal
things, to bring you some problems, to put you inside of investigations of the federal
police or something like that.
For example, there is a congressman like me, his name is Daniel Silveira.
He's in jail now.
And why he's in jail?
Because he recorded a video talking bad words for the Supreme Court justices.
So, he was at home, He recorded a video saying bad words for the Supreme Court justices, and he went to the prison.
He's convicted for almost nine years in jail because of this video.
At that time, my father was president of Brazil, and my father gave him the presidential pardon.
But when my father, he stepped out from the presidency, what the Supreme Court did?
They overturned the presidential pardon and bring back again Daniel Silveira to prison.
So nowadays he is in prison, okay?
This is a message that we, senators and federal representatives, doesn't matter, we have no immunity to talk, to speak whatever we want.
So we have to be very smart, very careful what we are doing.
Sometimes we can do things that we cannot publish or tell people that we are doing, not because they are illegal, but to not show this strategy to our enemies.
Because if they have the chance, they will destroy you.
Just what they did with, for example, Paulo Figueiredo, that had an interview a couple of days ago.
He is from the United States, but as Alexandre de Moraes cannot extradite him, he cancelled his passport So here in Brazil, what I do is I have to control what I'm talking and bring to the people the same message using other words.
And only to finish with this issue, when Elon Musk started to talk about what happened behind the scenes during the election times in Brazil, you know, these bizarre orders coming from the Supreme Court, Alexandre de Moraes now, he named it, he appointed Elon Musk inside of a federal investigation.
So Elon Musk is inside, is under investigation in Brazil by the Brazilian FBI.
Yesterday came up what we call here a police report saying that... We call it that here too.
Yeah, it's, it's, they use that to prepare For the judicial process, okay?
So very likely tomorrow I'll be in the same situation as Elon Musk.
But Elon Musk lives in the United States, I live here, and this is a problem.
That's scary.
They made a report saying that I am reorganizing together with other congressmen the international network of the extremists.
You know, I don't know if it sounds familiar for you, but they're saying that the problem is here in Brazil is the same virus that we have in the United States.
But the problem is that we have less antibodies.
And this is the problem.
If Trump is facing some unfair trials in New York, if he had this mugshot in Georgia, if I'm not wrong, here in Brazil, the risk is what the level is A little bit ahead. Yeah, the risk here is you go to the
jail. Of course, you go for example to bolivia The former president of bolivia. She's in jail. Janina. Yes.
Why because Anti-democratic acts so right depending the level of the
things you can go to the jail And face some trials, right? Well, and then you see what's
happening, you know in colombia And let me ask you this because I know there's been a huge
rivalry. I know largely soccer-based brazil argentina Uh, but with malay, do you feel conflicted now? Do you
think like? All right, we're kind of frenzy even though we have hated each other for a long time.
Bye.
But anyway, he's doing great because his chancellor, Diana Mondino, she offered refugee or asylum for the Twitter ex-employees that are under risk to go to the jail because of Alexandre de Moraes.
Right.
And she tweeted on that.
She posted on X that we share the same.
Everybody who shares the value of the liberty and the freedom, they are more than welcome to come here to Argentina.
We are going to protect you.
And it was great.
Yeah.
And it shows how important it is to have friends here in the region.
And it shows even more how important it is to elect Donald Trump this year in November in the United States.
The election of Donald Trump will shift back again, not only the United States, but the whole region to the right wing, to run away from the China government, to run away from the socialist government that wants to control everybody.
Because if you see the problems that rumble they are having in Brazil, you have in Australia, you have in France, so this virus is going everywhere all around the world.
What makes Brazil special is because in Brazil this virus is coming from the judiciary and in the other countries it comes from
the administration, the federal government that they have. And more than that, finishing
this comment here, Steve, is because Michael Schellenberg, who is the journalist who
is launching everything about the Twitter Files Brazil scandal, he said that now the Judiciary
Committee, they are putting their energy to see if the State Department of the United
States somehow helped.
Now The Alexandre de Moraes, the Supreme Court and the Superior Electoral Court.
And even more than that, because they can be together with the British intelligence.
It would not be a surprise for us, especially you, you Americans, because you saw what happened with the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop case when the FBI asked for some media to not... Right, they asked him to suppress it.
Oh boy.
Oh, there you are.
Sorry, your connection cut out for a second.
But yes, I heard what you were saying about the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Yes, so I know you wanted to finish, but no, you're absolutely right.
That was, as a matter of fact, on our show.
We've talked about this.
It was revealed for the first time physically.
Rudy Giuliani was on our show and he said, you know, and that's the Hunter Biden laptop.
I said, wait, wait, that's the laptop?
He goes, yeah, it's right here.
The FBI didn't want it.
They came, took everything in my apartment.
They didn't take that.
That was the only thing the FBI was not interested in.
And we were shocked at that point in time.
Yeah, just that one thing can change an election.
And then, of course, like you said in Brazil, you add the power of the judiciary there.
I mean, it's very relevant when you have a current former vice president who wants to pack, meaning add seats to the Supreme Court.
They've made it known in no uncertain terms that they want to give more authority.
To the court, provided it's created in their image.
So, the best place to find you, where I know on X, is Bolsonaro SP.
Is there anywhere else that someone can follow you and kind of stay on top of it in case they ban X in Brazil?
I have all the regular medias, Facebook, Instagram, Instagram, Bolsonaro, SP, SP2, and I do appreciate, Steve, for the opportunity that you are giving to me.
And I'll be in DC, at the Capitol, for the hearing of Elon Musk on 7th or May 8th, not sure about the date.
But we will be around, because we think that it's only the top of the iceberg, what we are looking now.
Things are going to be really worse on the next chapters of this story.
Well, hopefully we can connect with you, and whenever you come stateside, bring as many Brazilian women as possible.
We appreciate it very much.
Look, everyone knows this about Brazil.
Anyone who travels, like in Brazil, I don't know, there's born models.
Mr. Bolsonaro, I appreciate it.
I know you're busy, brother.
I'll talk to you soon.
Thank you, Sid.
Thank you all the best.
God bless you.
Alright, God bless you.
Be well.
well this has been Eduardo Bolsonaro everybody.
Really quickly before we move on.
So I didn't understand what he was saying.
He was saying he knew about our Steven Crowder Brazil channel that we launched.
Our YouTube channel that we launched in Portuguese.
Yeah.
So that we could reach that audience down there.
And I basically tried to do it on Rumble but they kicked Rumble out.
I guess YouTube's just playing ball down there too.
Doesn't matter.
They have no interest in free public.
They just want to make sure they've got people watching their channel.
They'll silence speech.
So I wondered if he had any run-ins.
Brazil!
My show, I make it all for you!
Sorry, I was trying to get the reception.
Yeah, because when I heard him say the YouTube thing, I thought he meant here.
Like, we're on YouTube and Rumble here.
Oh, okay.
He was actually talking about our channel that we just stood up.
That's true.
If you're watching Brazil, we do have a...
Can we get the URL there?
We've got it right down here.
Oh, there you go.
Steven Crowder.
Brasil!
My show, I make it all for you!
Isn't that where Blanca's from?
Yeah, but we don't like that guy.
Okay.
One of my favorite things about that, uh, their English accent is the way they pronounce the E-D at the end of everything, like market.
I marketed myself a safe.
That's right.
I like that.
The Brazilian women are markedly switch.
They're very switch.
Sometimes spicy.
Switch, I'm spicy.
Like you, a little bit country, also a little bit rock and roll.
I thought you were going to say western.
I thought you were going to say rugged.
Don't listen to that guy.
Porra.
He's too old to be wearing glasses like that.
I don't think that makes any sense at all.
This guy, he's dressed like he's going to school.
He needs a backpack with rainbow.
Just because he's smart.
You think Iglesias make him look smart as opposed to gay?
You think Tillman?
Is that your guess?
How about Argentina though?
Bringing in those Twitter employees?
You know what?
That's a way to bridge that divide there.
Argentina and Brazil, usually if we think about riots there, I mean soccer riots, they kill each other.
Well they do.
Yeah.
It's murder.
Did you hear like in a soccer match in Brazil, one of the ref's heads was cut off and put on a pike in the middle of the field.
Now this wasn't like a professional league.
Oh, that's a yellow flag for sure.
At least yellow card.
That's a yellow, that's a red card.
Maybe.
I don't know.
First hedge, you decapitate.
Warning, two time.
We're going to kick you out for two game.
I think one of the refs one time actually shot one of the other players, like the ref was packing.
Yes!
He's happened!
It's a real deal.
He's happened sometime!
And the guy was still flopping.
Yes, he did!
Faking it.
It's just, I just nicked you.
Come on, that was only a 22.
Well we have so much to, well I guess we're going to continue the Columbia segment.
Let's continue it on Mug Club really quick.
And of course you can go support him at Bolsonaro SP.
Brazil is just a very interesting case study right now, and to see how it mirrors the United States.
It is eerie.
Oh, I forgot, also, by the way, before we go to... It is cool, too, that they know our situation very well.
And it's not just us, it's global.
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We have a lot to say about Columbia and terrorists and Ilhan Omar banging your brother.
And if we're watching on YouTube... Are we still on YouTube?
Yeah.
Maybe.
Not after him.
Piss off.
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