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Oct. 23, 2020 - Louder with Crowder
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Biden vs. Trump! Final Presidential Debate | Donald Trump Jr. and Sen Ted Cruz Guest | #CrowderMania
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If we don't control insiders, this will be over and over.
To lead by and any.
Big, fat, love, find common ground.
To halt the spread of lies.
And we must do it.
Big, fat, love, find common ground.
To halt the spread of lies.
And any.
America first!
America first!
Non-fatal.
We want to build a much better Okay, welcome to the Lion with a Crowder.
Last debate livestream.
We're going to have our drinking game rules coming up and we're going to have Senator Ted Cruz.
But first, we'll hit a pregame with the man, with the plan, the Don himself, the godfather, the man who in the neighborhood kisses all the girls on his arm who want to be with Donald Trump Jr.
And we have Donald Trump Jr.
at Donald Trump Jr.
His book is Liberal Privilege.
Joe Biden and the Democrats' defense of the indefensible.
Wow, some stellar timing.
How are you, Mr. Don Jr.?
I'm doing well.
You know, it was interesting.
I spent the quarantine time starting in March researching our opponent because I couldn't go to work.
I wasn't going to loot and riot.
It's not really my thing.
You've got an exemption from having to stay home if you were going to loot and riot.
You know, I started doing this research and found a lot of this corruption.
It's hard to believe that even six months later now, the book I wrote is actually more true than it ever was, that it was always pretty damn accurate.
But what's scarier right now, we're seeing the potential president of the United States, prior to an election, literally being compromised by foreign governments.
His son dealing and peddling influence.
All of the things, Steven, that they hoped and prayed Donald Trump Jr.
was doing.
All of the things they ran with for four years, as though it was the gospel, with exactly zero evidence.
All of the things that when they accused us, we were totally transparent, put everything out there, be like, here, have at it.
Hunter Biden was actually doing.
Hunter Biden's been doing for years, and now they're okay with it.
I mean, when I look at what social media has done trying to censor the New York Post, you know, it's the second largest paper in New York.
It's a 200-year-old institution.
They did this.
And now the media that lost their goddamn minds every time Donald Trump called them fake news turns out he was right about the Russia hoax.
Now they're calling fake news on their own journalists when the Biden campaign themselves won't even deny that these things...
Well, that's one thing I wanted to say.
That's a big difference between, we showed this on the program, I believe two days ago, when your dad was asked by the moderator, Welker, who we'll get into, about Russia, he said, I never colluded or worked with Russia, it is a complete hoax, and you should not, he answered unequivocally denied it, whereas Biden just goes, yeah, you would ask that question, fat China!
Yeah.
No, well, and that's the thing.
And more importantly, then they put out this thing, well, Well, Joe Biden didn't have that meeting in his official calendar.
It's like, yeah, no shit.
No, let me look at his Google and his iCalendar.
Ayatollah with a ran and a VPN.
Okay, make some calls.
Yeah, you didn't put corrupt meeting with oligarch paying Hunter a million who's holding billions for Joe in the official White House calendar.
Not the question that was asked, by the way, but they hear that and they say, oh, this is freaking wonderful.
Joe's clear.
Right.
Joe's clear.
And now you have the media literally today and the Democrats and the never Trumpers peddling Like, Iranian disinformation.
Iranian disinformation!
They're like, let's just send it out there because it hurt Donald Trump.
Can I clarify something here?
Because...
Yeah, and that's something that's important because it's been misrepresented.
They've tried to say, look, the Iranians actually were sending it and Russians are
disseminating this disinformation campaign trying to intimidate voters.
No, hold on a second. They sent false letters as the Proud Boys to try and intimidate.
Do you really think that they're doing that to try and help Donald Trump?
Do you really like send them say it's the Proud Boys?
Donald Trump had canceled the deal where Obama and Biden gave them 150 billion.
Donald Trump cancelled that.
The Iranians really want Donald Trump to win.
Russia really wants Donald Trump to win.
We'll put more sanctions on Russia than any administration, including during the Cold War under Reagan.
No, they want Joe Biden to win because they know they've bought him off.
Imagine this, Steven.
what they found already on Hunter.
Okay.
That's like one or two journalists looking.
Imagine they stick 10,000 journalists on Donald Trump Jr.
like they did.
Do it to Hunter.
Imagine how much more they would find.
Yeah.
Imagine how much more is there if they were even willing to look, but they're not.
And you know what?
If there's not enough there, just give him a 10 gram rock and he'll give you,
everyone knows the keys to the safe with Hunter Biden.
Let me ask you, this is actually giving me deja vu from when John Kerry officially endorsed Osama bin Laden.
I remember it was so stupid that he released it.
It's like, if you want him to win, Osama, don't say... No one's wanting your endorsement.
Let me ask, do you think any...
Go ahead.
But Joe Biden got the Osama bin Laden endorsement, too.
In the race, they killed Osama bin Laden.
They found a document that were classified at the end of last year.
There are documents between Osama bin Laden and his biggest henchman saying they wanted to kill Obama.
This is back in, like, you know, early Obama admin.
They wanted to kill Obama because that would put Joe Biden in charge.
Right.
Think of Osama bin Laden wanted to kill Obama because that would put Joe Biden in charge.
And that, by itself, Would lead to the destruction of America because he's that grossly unprepared.
Right.
Even Osama bin Laden did it.
Right.
And they were even saying that he endorsed that coveted in politics.
But I don't talk to Osama bin Laden endorsement.
You know, Joe Biden, by the way, was the only other guy in America that didn't want to go in and kill him.
I mean, this is the stupidity of Joe Biden.
Well, that's the thing.
They thought if they got...
They thought if they got rid of Barack Obama, it would be easy to, you know, dangle the carrot and kind of manipulate Biden.
And in Biden's case, it was an actual dangling of the carrot.
They were just going to stand behind him with a fishing pole and a carrot.
And, uh, yeah, that's, that's enough.
Maybe, maybe a six, maybe a six year old scalp, you know, just go into it like Yogi bear with a pie on a windowsill.
Just, um, let me ask you this.
Do you think any of this will come up in tonight's debate?
Do you think there will be any questions about this?
And if not, does, does your dad have to bring it up because there are mixed opinions on that?
Listen, I think he has to bring it up.
You saw, it was supposed to be the foreign policy debate.
The second this stuff came out, all of a sudden they eliminated foreign policy.
Now they're going to talk about climate change.
I mean, think about how stupid this is.
You know, no one will talk about the fact of climate change.
Like, according to NASA, 1.4 degrees since 1860.
Yeah.
18 to 150 years, 1.4 degrees.
Like, yes, that's why California is burning.
Not because of terrible forest management.
Not because of the environmentalists refusing to let people in there to clean up.
No wait, who are we talking about?
get better one point four degrees that they don't get the world
it doesn't it shouldn't surprise us though it worked if you saw the last
debate right the last moderator with the both of it
break i totally impartial heard that you could go by the internet
defending never trumpeters what he thought that the f burned out it was just out on whether
but you know i hit from what any by the Vatican but that he would act
knowing what we're talking about it's going out for the second debate right okay
right so you are going to have that he would act that was for the with the
supposed to be the second debate but i think okay well if you have had
if the moderator of the second debate that could be a russian interference in our own you know i reported
dot what that would like to finish it one that but not yet it made
it a former by the administration person like And Obama administration person.
So I'm not expecting fairness, and when I see them trying to eliminate the topic that would be dangerous to Joe Biden, like selling out our country, it's all I need to know.
And I'm a little nervous because Steve, who you were talking about, but same thing with Kristen Welker.
The fact that she's been pinned with Biden's high school ring.
A lot of people aren't talking about that.
Seems that should be more of a story.
But let me ask you this.
Well, foreign policy, listen, the reason I don't want to discuss that is because we have no new major wars.
Donald Trump is the only president in modern American history to do that.
And hey, some actual peace in the Middle East, that got no coverage.
That's one of the biggest peace treaties.
It's the biggest one that's happened in my lifetime between Israel and the UAE.
And this is the economy, foreign policy, Uh, which they said would be Donald Trump's weak suit.
Remember when they were asking about the Arab Spring and these kind of trick questions?
Turns out you don't need to be a political hobbyist to actually get things done, and it would be irrefutable that Donald Trump has done more for criminal justice reform and peace in the Middle East than any president in modern history.
It's just not even up for debate.
I don't even think Van Jones tries.
No, they won't even, you know, the problem is they won't even discuss those sort of things.
If it's good for Donald Trump, they'll pretend it never happened.
I mean, Joe Biden's gonna fix racial relations in America.
Why do you wait?
I mean, you know, 47 years is a long time to build up, right?
I mean, you know, you see that you have guys on your show, it takes a little while to get them loosened up, like a minute?
Right.
47 years is too long!
If he really cared about these issues, you know, you would think he would have utilized, I don't know, 38 years in the Senate, or maybe his eight years as the first, as the vice president for the first African-American president.
It's about pandering. Same with people in the Middle East.
They spent more time fact-checking my sister's speech when she gave- at the RNC,
because it was that time when she talked about her three-year-old son building a little Lego White House.
Did he do it by himself?
Three, he probably had a little bit of help. What's your point?
But they would rather cancel it.
It's the Rip Van Winkle approach.
So he's waiting a long time.
They're canceling three years.
To be fair, Biden was very clear about his racial relations plan.
It's the Rip Van Winkle approach.
So he's waiting a long time.
I think it's about 48 years.
He doesn't want his kids going to school in a racial jungle.
We talked about that ad nauseum racial jungle.
It's like, oh my God, I can't believe it.
If anyone in your family said that.
This is a guy that was buddies with every segregationist to ever walk the halls of Congress.
And not just frankly, he eulogized them at their funerals.
Joe Biden has no basis on this.
His crime bill, everything.
Donald Trump reversed the disaster that Joe Biden did to those communities.
And yet, according to the media, Joe Biden's going to finally fix them.
Something after half a century and five months.
Right.
And then he took a big steaming dump on Clarence Thomas.
I'll never forget that.
A lot of people don't realize, you know what turned Andrew Breitbart, who was kind of my mentor, you know what turned him into a conservative?
It was Clarence Thomas.
He said he tuned in to watch them nail this guy and by the end of it he said, oh my gosh, they're going to crucify this guy and he's innocent.
That's what turned him into the Andrew Breitbart that we knew.
Let me ask you this, do you think that it may actually be, and I know, listen, I'll talk with
Ted Cruz about this too, but the debate commission we know is unfair, we know that it's biased,
but do you think there may be a silver lining there for Joe Biden to have two minutes all to himself?
By the way, without question, I think that was probably what I would have wanted more out of
the first debate, which is, you know, the problem is Joe Biden got two minutes to lie, so Donald
Trump then had to kind of correct the record, and they were both interrupting, and Joe interrupted
first, but the reality is this.
Yes, there were times where I'm like, no, just let him talk.
Just let him talk, because this guy, you know, he can't remember what state he's in 50% of the time.
If you gave him unfettered talk, we should just feed all of our time and let Joe Biden talk for two hours.
Yeah. Because that won't work out well for Joe Biden.
You know, anyone who's watched him try to give a speech publicly has seen that.
I mean, even teleprompted it.
That's hard to believe, because again, after half a century in the D.C.
swamp, you'd think you'd be able to read a teleprompter.
But even that's a challenge for Joe Biden.
Well, you know, he has myopia.
Let me ask, well, first off, again, the book is Liberal Privilege, Joe Biden and the Democrats' Defense of the Indefensible.
I think everyone needs to read this right now.
Two things.
I have a statement first.
The one thing that I think would behoove President Donald Trump is, in the last one, rightfully so, he was angry, like you said, because of the moderator.
I think when you look at the debates last time, particularly the second debate with Clinton, You know what was really likable about Donald Trump?
He seemed like he was having fun.
And so I think the more it seems like Donald Trump is having fun, and even though he needs to be tough, but is there enjoying it?
I think that's when he's at his best.
And then my last question to you is because we do have to go, we have Senator Ted Cruz waiting on the line.
How do you expect tonight to play out?
Listen, you know, again, I do think it's, you know, it's going to be a biased playing field, but, you know, listen, my dad's good at these sort of situations.
He's a game-time player.
He's willing to tackle and challenge the norms.
That's why we're getting results.
That's why we're getting out-of-endless scores.
That's why we're getting key fields done in the Middle East.
All of these things that we've heard about for our whole lives, but no one's actually ever effectuated.
I think he'll do well, despite sort of that bias.
I think, you know, we do have to bring up some of the things that the moderators are going to do whatever they can to avoid talking about.
The American people deserve to know, Stephen.
Right.
I mean, again, imagine it was Donald Trump Jr.
and not Hunter Biden.
The Republican Party would step in and say, Donald Trump, you must resign.
You must step down right now.
Remember when they were speculating that you had done cocaine at your speech?
Remember at the RNC?
And they were like, this guy makes Charlie Sheen look like Ron Howard!
Yeah, no, it's, uh, it was crazy.
I mean, and that's exactly, I think, I think you have me confused with Hunter Biden, but they won't talk about it.
Again, if I returned a car with a crack pipe in it to a rental car agency with my IT, I mean, it would be a story.
I'm not saying, hey, listen, we all have our prescription problems.
Yeah, hell, I don't drink for a reason.
It's not because I was good at it.
You know what I mean?
Right.
I get it.
Oh, it's true.
We all have our... But, like, I have a feeling that I wouldn't get the sympathetic view of those kind of problems.
Especially not if I was selling my country out for millions of dollars.
Especially if I was making millions with no ability to actually do that.
You think the Chinese gave him 1.5 billion because he was a great investor or because he was compromised?
No, I think that's... Of course it's because he was compromised.
You can't look at his record.
If I was hiding for years from child support payments, you think I'd get the benefit of the doubt and say, No, I don't think you would get the benefit.
I wouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt, because I don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt, but that just shows the arrogance, right?
Joe Biden just thinks he won't answer the questions, he doesn't deny the authenticity, but if he doesn't answer the question, the media will carry his water.
Same thing with the arrogance of Hunter Biden leaving a crack pipe in a rental car.
If I smoke a cigar in a rental car with a scenic view and the windows open, I put in some kitty litter and baking soda and some Febreze because, you know, I don't want to get hit with a $250 bill, but we do have to leave it on that I do appreciate you are one who calls a spade a spade.
Also, Joe Biden calls a spade a spade.
So, we will be back after this with Senator Ted Cruz.
The book is Liberal Privilege.
Thank you so much, Don Jr.
We must go.
Open your mind.
Let us begin our quest.
Now you, Donald Trump, need to bring what remains of Joe Biden to the embalming parlor.
My undercrowder and I are making preparations.
I was about to make me break.
I'm not looking, but I just feel.
The clock is ticking on the embalming wall.
Joe Biden will soon be mine.
And me.
That doesn't make any sense.
Soon, creepy Joe Biden will be It will be okay.
Just do your thing.
Your livers will all rest in peace.
Be sure to turn in to the Louder With Crowder livestream.
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Tune!
Tune, you mortician f***.
I don't get out much.
I hit a hole in the ground!
Okay, I'm excited because my next guest has a podcast verdict that you can go listen to
and he has a new book, One Vote Away, that is about the importance of the Supreme Court
and which cases have been determined by only one vote.
And he's got the beard and the mutton chops and kisses all the girls in the neighborhood and make them cry!
Senator, uh, Ted Cruz, thank you for being here, sir.
You know, Stephen, there are decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty.
Not for the nature boy, a woo-woo.
So, for people who couldn't understand, the podcast is Verdict, not The Verdict, which is one of my favorite Paul Newman films with Jack Warden.
And the book is obviously one vote away, and I think that it's very important for people who don't know, it's not just about the Supreme Court, but about cases that were determined by one vote.
Big one.
People not having the right to own firearms at all.
A lot of folks don't know about Heller.
But before we get to that, let me ask you, what do you predict for tonight?
We had you on before the first of what was supposed to be three debates, and we thought we'd have you back for the last one.
We didn't think it would be the second one.
What do you think tonight will be like, and how do you think it may be contrasted from the first debate?
Look, I hope tonight there's actually less fireworks than the first one.
I hope tonight the real division is on substance.
The first one between Trump and Biden was kind of a food fight.
I mean, they were yelling and insulting each other.
That's fine, but I actually think that played to the Democrats' strength.
They want it to be all about personality.
They don't want it to be about substance.
What I hope the president does is draw a clear distinction between free enterprise and socialism.
I hope the president draws a clear distinction between rule of law and the Constitution versus anarchy and riots in the streets.
And I think last time The president was clearly ready for a fight, he was energized, but I think a couple of times he jumped in and saved Joe Biden from himself.
I think we would have been better off if he just let Joe talk a little bit.
Because the positions Joe is embracing are really out there, and the more we can do to highlight it, the better that is.
We just talked about this yesterday, Senator Cruz.
Nobody in this office, nobody in my research team, nobody out of the 15 people who work for Loudmouth Crowder knew that on Joe Biden's own website, under firearm safety, is he will ban all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, parts.
That means if I want a grip adapter, No one knows that, and it's surprising to me that there will be no question, seemingly, in any of these debates about guns.
And I think that that's obviously trying to stack the deck, because if people in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin know how radical Joe Biden's firearm policy is, he loses them in a landslide.
Do you think that's maybe the case here?
I think that's right, but I think it's even more than that.
Let me connect the two topics we started with, which is the debate And my book, One Vote Away.
So each chapter of the book is on a different constitutional right.
If you read the chapter on the Second Amendment, it talks about the case Heller v. District of Columbia.
That's the landmark Second Amendment case.
It was decided 5-4.
I helped litigate that case.
And in fact, the book is all war stories from helping litigate many of the big landmark cases of the court.
But on Heller, the four dissenters, their position was not that some gun control is sometimes okay.
Reasonable minds can differ on that.
We can have actually a reasonable conversation and debate on that topic.
Right.
The position of the dissenters was much more radical.
It was that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever.
That it is merely a, quote, collective right of the militia Which means the federal government, the state government, the city can make it a crime, can make it a felony.
For you or for me to own a gun.
Right.
And under the dissenters view of Heller, there'd be nothing we could do about it.
We have no Second Amendment right.
Joe Biden has promised to nominate Supreme Court justices who would overturn Heller.
So if Joe Biden is elected, the Supreme Court will effectively erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights.
That's the kind of substance I hope we see in the debate tonight.
Well, I don't know if we will, but I think it's important to note, yeah, it's not about, Heller v. D.C.
wasn't a pistol grip versus tactical grip.
It wasn't about some bump stock.
It was about the right to own.
So when people say, oh, I think I'm okay with revolvers or pump shotguns.
No, no, that there, you would have no right to own it.
You'd have to have some kind of a sheriff or something, someone like that, some legislator or someone in local law enforcement allow you the basic right to self-preservation.
Going back to the debate, and then I do want to, go ahead.
Specific facts on it, Stephen.
So Dick Anthony Heller, who's the plaintiff in Heller, is a federal police officer, lived in the District of Columbia.
He carried a firearm at work.
Under DC law, all pistols were illegal.
So revolvers, any pistol was illegal no matter what.
And any long gun, any shotgun or rifle was required to be disassembled and inoperative at all times with no exceptions.
So literally, if someone is breaking into your house, if you're a single mom and a crackhead is coming through the window to hurt your kids, and you had a shotgun and you removed the trigger lock, You were committing a crime.
Let's not bring Hunter Biden into this.
I don't think he's breaking into anybody's house anytime soon.
Hey, listen.
Hey, come on.
Come on.
That's not hearsay.
That's not gossip.
He's on camera smoking a crack pipe.
All right?
I have more credibility and I'm in a feathered boa, okay?
Let's go back to the debate here.
You mentioned...
You mentioned that you hope to see something more substantive.
Now, I do want to talk about the commission and how biased it is and what we think we should do in elections going forward.
However, could it be an advantage for Joe Biden to be left alone with his thoughts for two minutes straight?
It may be a blessing in disguise.
Yes, if there's the give and take of questioning and there has to be some back and forth.
Because look, Joe Biden can memorize a couple of minutes and get it out.
I mean, that's what he's doing all week is memorizing little set pieces where the debate is important.
And I'm all for Trump counterpunching and engaging.
I just hope he engages on substance and sort of just turns the temperature down a little bit.
And makes clear what Joe's radical policies are.
Right.
And speaking of radical, the moderator here, I want to make sure, it's Welker.
Walker, Welker, I always get her name wrong.
We went through a segment yesterday about her Democratic ties, some of the practices that she's undertaken as a journalist.
She's moderated debates before.
Should Americans go in with eyes wide open?
Is she biased?
And then is the commission biased, the commission for debates who change the rules?
Because I think a rule change was fair, but this was pretty extreme.
Look, of course she's biased, of course the commission is a train wreck, everyone on the commission is a never-Trumper, either the Democrats or the never-Trump Republicans, they're all voting for Joe Biden.
And let me say more broadly, Republicans are idiots.
If you look at debates, every single general election debate is moderated by a Democrat.
What the hell is wrong with us?
Like, a hundred percent.
Everyone is moderated by a Democrat.
And it's even worse than that, Stephen.
In the presidential race, Republican primary debates Are almost all moderated by Democrats.
The people moderating want everyone on the stage to lose.
And every question is designed to make everyone look like idiots.
So I propose two very simple changes.
Okay.
Number one, for Republican primary presidential debates, the moderator should be people who actually intend to vote in a Republican primary.
So if you're not a Republican, don't moderate a Republican primary debate, because we want moderators who will actually ask questions that Republican primary voters give a damn about.
Fair.
Secondly, for the general elections, stop this ridiculous assumption that journalists are not partisans.
We've seen Democrat after Democrat after Democrat.
Instead of ignoring the bias, own it.
And so have an explicitly conservative moderator and an explicitly liberal moderator.
So imagine, for example, a debate moderated by Mark Levin and Rachel Maddow.
And everyone knows, look, Levin's going to ask tough questions and conservative questions the Democrats not going to like.
Maddow's going to ask liberal questions the Republicans not going to like.
And that actually would be an interesting debate.
Right.
Yeah, at least the people on stage wouldn't be the only ones trading barbs.
It would be, you know, would you shut up, man?
Hey, screw you!
Ah, screw you, you dope!
No, screw you!
And he'd be like, which one's which?
I don't even know anymore, but I'm enjoying it.
Um, let me ask you, I think that's a good idea because people, this idea that there is inherently unbiased journalism, that's a lot, it's never the case.
It would have to...
be predicated on the idea that human beings can have no values and if you have someone with no
values that mean anything to them, well not only should they not be moderating a debate,
but they should be forced to walk the plank. You know, I think drawing and
cornering is really under undervalued in today's society.
Well, yeah.
I mean, so I see that you're running for the Green Party, with Republicans are idiots.
Let me ask you this, too, as well.
First, final question on the debate, and we're going to get to that really quick.
What's your prediction?
Who comes out the victor tonight, and how do you think it affects the election?
I think Trump's going to do well.
I think Joe Biden... I don't think Biden is going to do well.
If we can avoid the fireworks and focus on substance, I think Trump wins tonight.
Yeah, okay, I think you're right, and I also hope that Joe Biden gets two minutes to himself, and then just Joe Bidens himself, you know, in two minutes.
That's the thing.
Sometimes you give him enough rope.
We saw that with the last debate.
The one time he was asked a direct question, like you said, there has to be a give and take that's fair.
The one time he was asked a direct question, which ironically only came from Donald Trump, which law enforcement agencies have endorsed you?
Hamana, Hamana, Hamana.
So my final question is, obviously ACB is a conversation right now.
She's probably going to be confirmed on Monday.
You introduced a constitutional amendment to stop or prevent any kind of court packing.
I would say as a block to a potential Joe Biden presidency, but he doesn't know.
Will he?
Won't he?
Vote for him.
Decide.
He hasn't given his position.
Tell people what this is and why it's important.
So Joe Biden tonight is going to deny again that he's going to pack the court.
Kamala Harris has denied that they're going to pack the court.
The reason they won't answer that question is because their answer is yes.
That Senate Democrats, the radicals are in charge.
They're angry.
And if they win, they will pack the court.
And what does it mean to pack the court?
It means to increase the number of justices.
To put your partisans on the court.
And so we've seen there been nine justices in the Supreme Court for 150 years.
We saw another Democratic president try to do this.
FDR tried to do this at the height of his popularity, 1937.
And his own party, the Democratic Party, he had huge majorities in both houses.
They said no.
They said it would politicize the judiciary.
It would destroy the independence of the court.
We're not going to do it.
And The reason that today's Democrats, that Biden doesn't want to answer the question is because packing the court is incredibly unpopular.
And so here's what they're doing, and you can listen to it tonight.
The last two weeks, one of the ways we know that they're going to pack the court, A, if the answer was no, they'd say no, because that's overwhelmingly the more popular answer.
But B, Democrats, the talking points have gone out.
That they're trying to redefine what it means to pack the court.
So Joe Biden tonight, here's a prediction, he will say Donald Trump has been packing the court for four years.
Right, by just actually having conservative judges elected through the process that exists, which is totally within precedent.
It is ludicrous spin to say that a president nominating justices for vacancies Is packing the court.
That's not what packing the court... No, we're past ludicrous spin.
It's spin plaid.
But there's a reason.
It's also spin that is revealing.
It's like a tell in poker.
The fact that they're trying to redefine packing the court is because they intend, if they win, to increase the court to 11 or to 13 and just jam a bunch of partisans there, who will do what?
Who will take away the Second Amendment?
Who will take away our free speech?
Who will take away our religious liberty?
you know, the book One Vote Away, which by the way, Stephen, I got to give you a shout out to you. So
when I last went on your show right before the debate, and we talked about the book One Vote
Away, it shot to the number one bestseller in the country on Amazon. And so, you know,
I would mean a whole lot to me if you weren't telling it to all the hosts who had you on.
But I do appreciate you making me.
Look, I'm in politics.
I know.
No, but I appreciate it, and I think it's a very important book, One Vote Away, because a lot of people don't know the dissenting opinions historically are really just as important as the yay votes, especially when you're looking at actually packing the courts.
And to be fair, Joe Biden may not have answered.
Someone could have turned on the microwave in the green room and it made the plate go a little bit haywire.
The book is one vote away.
We do have to get going.
Senator Cruz, we appreciate you being here, and I think we'll be seeing you on election night, if I'm not mistaken.
That's going to be a marathon stream, a meat grinder.
Senator Cruz, thank you so much, brother.
We appreciate it.
Excellent.
God bless.
We're going to be right back with more, hopefully.
I'm going to pin this so it's not so revealing.
Well, it's the night we've all been waiting for.
Debate number two.
I'm shaking in my boots.
With me, as always, is Gerald A. and Audio Wade.
What kind of fireworks can we expect tonight?
Well, Stephen, the last debate was a debacle, but a lot has happened since then, and Trump has really been itching to have a second go at Ray B. Joe.
That's right, first there was COVID and then the ill-fated Zoom debate, which the President nixed.
I think we can really expect tonight to be... And I'm getting word it looks like former Vice President Joe Biden is actually arriving right now in his armored vehicle, looking confident as he exits.
If perhaps a little lost, but he's got to be feeling good about his prospect.
Wait a second, I'm getting word that the Commander-in-Chief is already in the building.
Hold it!
Talk about it!
I'm getting a thrill down my leg just watching this!
Look at these two, man!
These two dogs have been stirring each other through the fence, and it is time to let the big dogs eat!
Mom, it's time to let the doggies at the- OH MY GOD!
Mike, he just- Joe just hit the president!
Oh, wait, and they- and Mike Patton with a bowling chair out of nowhere!
And it looks like Kamala Harris is having- Oh my god!
He did get a dinner trade!
I've seen Kamala Harris- Oh, and a dinner trade- Oh, and she was handled like a- Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, The COVID stunner!
I can't believe my eyes!
President Trump, oh my word, the game has changed!
Ladies and gentlemen you wanted a show tonight. Well, you certainly are going to have yourself a show
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I hope you're all having a good night tonight!
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We have a big show tonight.
A lot's going to be happening.
In studio with me, as always, is Quarter Black Bear over here.
Jake the Snake, audio-way, is here.
And then we have Tokunawa, of course, on the thing there.
He's over there.
He's got a wig!
Really quick, we do have drinking game rules tonight.
Can somebody bring up the drinking game rules really quickly?
So exciting.
Okay, the drinking game rules.
Read them for us.
If Trump gets a leading or unfair question, drops a thug life moment, says China, fake news.
Finish your drink if Trump mentions Hunter Biden.
Let's see if that happens.
Biden, if he gets a softball question, has a dementia moment, talks tough, or says, come on man.
If he says come on man and you hear this sound...
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Send them in, you'll get a lock of Gerald Morgan's hair, who will be here soon.
But I don't have a mug, we don't have a drink.
Oh, yes!
It's time for my undertaker to come in!
Oh, there he is!
He's here to bring the nectar!
Okay, thank you very much.
Thank you, Undertaker.
I appreciate it.
Everyone else?
Everyone else good?
Oh, yeah.
I'm alright.
Yeah, we all need some, too.
Thanks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get everyone some.
Appreciate it.
I'm alright.
Thank you, though.
Thank you!
Alright, we'll see you soon.
Well, that was a lot of work.
Hey, can you do me a favor, Audio Wing?
Actually, I do think I want program here, but I can't see anything.
I wanted to read something for you guys really quickly.
Bubba Linsky just had his press conference.
Yes, he did.
Who was a business partner, he claimed, of Joe Biden.
Right now it's just blue and says field monitor.
Okay, all right.
Sorry, guys.
We have a little bit of technical stuff here.
It's hard to make something this dynamic.
Bubulinski came out, presented a press conference where he said that he had proof, he has more cell phones that he's going to be handing over to the FBI, and he will be in the audience tonight from what I understand.
He said that he had worked with Hunter Biden, Joe Biden.
It's not about Hunter Biden, it's about the leverage from Joe Biden and the fact that he was involved in these business dealings.
That's what he claimed.
There was a denial that was issued.
So I'm going to read this from you.
Just issued online in case you guys have not read this yet.
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So this is the dismissal, the denial.
As Chris Wallace said on the air about this very smear, Vice President Biden has actually released his tax returns, unlike President Trump.
Erroneous!
And there is no indication he ever got any money from anybody in these business deals.
That will remain to be seen.
Joe Biden never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any overseas business whatsoever.
Here's the thing.
Don't go so extreme with it.
Like, it's a guy saying, like, I have a girlfriend.
Really?
She goes to another school.
Okay, alright, so we don't know her.
And she lives in Canada.
And she has double D's.
And she was in Playboy.
The cover.
Listen, we can cross-reference that pretty quickly.
How many Canadians with double D's who are still currently in high school were on the cover of Playboy?
Turns out, none.
So give yourselves an out, Biden.
He has never held stock in any such business arrangements, nor has the family... What is true, this is from the Biden camp, is that Tony Bobulinski admitted on the record to Breitbart that he is angry he was not able to get in business with Hunter and James Biden.
Hold on a second!
What business?
He said there was no business!
It's like, I never even liked that chick.
What chick?
She's the imaginary one.
This is the denial.
And they still have not denied the authenticity of the emails.
They're just making it about stock.
Which, by the way, is something that everyone needs to know out there.
What happened to the Bernie Bros?
And I'm going to get into what I think should happen tonight, or what will happen tonight, but the Bernie Bros.
Big money in politics.
Biden is the candidate of Wall Street.
Of big banks, big media, big tech, Hollywood.
Donald Trump has a coalition of working class, middle Americans, and law enforcement, military, and ironically, union members.
Not the union heads, because they have a contract with the Democrats effectively.
A gentleman's contract.
A gentle prick's contract with the Democrats, but the people in the unions don't feel represented.
Who's the Wall Street guy?
They're donating overwhelmingly to Joe Biden.
What do I think will happen tonight?
We have CNN right now with a quadrant view.
Look, I talked with Donald Trump Jr.
I talked with Ted Cruz about this.
I think there could be a real silver lining for Donald Trump.
Joe Biden having two minutes to himself.
It's like, you know, Joe Rogan has those sensory deprivation tanks.
And he always says, you know, when you go in, like, all of your bad thoughts kind of come back and you sort of have to work through them.
Joe Biden being alone with himself for two minutes without someone helping him might as well be an ayahuasca weekend for him.
Like this guy can't handle it.
It's his own internal sweat lodge.
So I think that could be a good thing and I think like you were saying, Audio Wade, that Donald Trump can at least use the theatrics if they mute his mic to his advantage.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, I think that all he needs to do at a certain point is just sort of point and be like, all right, well, yes, this is what they're doing.
This is their play.
This is how they're going to try to control it.
Okay.
All right.
Hands up, don't mute!
And I think Donald Trump needs to come across as though he's having more fun.
The Donald Trump that people love is the Donald Trump who laughed at Hillary Clinton.
The Donald Trump who does the white dad at a wedding dance.
I like that.
That's fun with Donald Trump.
And so, last time he was angry, rightfully so, I think it's a good thing if he doesn't interrupt.
I think it's a good thing if he looks like he's having fun.
I don't think it's a good thing that they removed foreign policy and national security, but we know why.
Because Joe Biden is one of the only people who didn't want to kill Bin Laden and is taking part in policy that's led to more drone strikes than anyone in Donald Trump has started.
No new wars and the biggest peace treaty of our time with Israel and UAE.
You know, climate change is at the top of everybody's mind after 2020.
That's what everybody's thinking about.
It's because Biden gets hot flashes.
I don't know how he gets hot flashes.
Men aren't supposed to have menopause.
Well, you know, Joe Biden's a creature.
So, I don't know, what do you expect here, Audie?
So, I think that Trump is definitely at his best when he's dealing with a hostile media.
So, we saw that with the Savannah Guthrie town hall.
I thought he did a good job.
I think everybody here thought he did a better job than in the past.
Right.
Because she was a bully.
She was so mean.
She was so witchy, with a B, that, you know, witchy, bitchy woman.
If I say it in a song, it's okay.
Donald Trump seemed like he was justified.
Right, absolutely.
Yeah, and I think that if he waits for that sort of thing to happen here, I think that, yeah, again, making the face or sort of pointing out the selective muting, which I think is probably going to happen.
Yep.
Really quickly, we're going to be talking about the Supreme Court fighting COVID-19, American families race in America, climate change, and they remove national security.
I think they're about to take the stage.
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If they stick to their plans, each one of them could make inroads, I think, but... Right now, Joe, if they have a return fee in the Green Room, Joe Biden just said, shit, I gotta have a plan?
Didn't expect that one.
Oh my word!
It would be so funny if he refuses to come out because there's no plexiglass.
It's an unsafe environment.
And Donald Trump had hip pads because he was planning on checking him into the boards.
He's immune!
He has a superpower, Donald Trump.
The fact that Donald Trump... Oh, by the way, remdesivir.
Remdesivir?
Is that how it's pronounced?
Remdesivir has just been approved by the FDA as a therapeutic.
Think about this for a second.
Donald Trump recovered in record time.
People tried to say it was a hoax, that then he didn't really have coronavirus because he, you know, suffered the symptoms that most people actually do.
He used experimental treatment.
This man, actually, at this point, if you were to believe the media, these aren't approved by the FDA!
Yeah, and he's doing Operation Warp Speed, and he's gonna grow a third nipple and kids with fish eyes!
And instead, he turned himself into a guinea pig for the American people, and now this is an FDA-approved treatment that could help millions of people.
Not only in the United States, but hey, rest of the world, you're welcome.
You're welcome that we're coming up with these treatments, and at least applications of treatments as well, if we didn't actually create Remdesivir, which I think we actually did.
And then, of course, the people who have a problem with it is the World Health Organization.
Yeah, when we first found out that Trump had Corona, everybody thought, like, oh, this is really bad for him because he played it down for so long, now he has it.
And then immediately after, they were like, oh, he's just faking it to make himself look better.
Of course.
He's just faking it.
You have to pick one.
And he touted unproven treatments, and the FDA is like, actually, we tested that shit.
It's proven.
And they're like, no.
It's the best play.
Why did you say no?
Because the organization that works with China and supports Tedros and denies the existence of Taiwan, they said that it may cause a tummy ache.
Okay, but it's approved by the FDA.
I thought you trusted science.
Remdesivir is now approved by the FDA to help treat COVID-19.
Okay?
Is that not a good thing in Donald Trump, by the way?
Remember they said, only the kind of expensive treatment that a wealthy person... He wants to make it available to all of you.
He wants to make it free for everybody.
For crying out loud!
I just don't know how they're going to spin this outside of simply flat-out denying it and saying that the Vice President has actually released his tax returns.
Who cares?
Who cares if he's released his tax returns?
By the way, those aren't the taxes we want.
You don't get to purchase your houses and your cars and live the lifestyle that you do with the taxes that you claim from years ago.
We know that your son, Hunter Biden, it's not that Hunter Biden, it's not that there are these underhanded, seedy, underground, disgusting business dealings.
It's that Hunter Biden is effectively a shell corporation for Joseph.
It's not about Hunter, it's about Joe Biden.
Think of the leverage.
And you know what?
You know that you believe me because you also understand that billionaires are tougher to buy and sell if they have more money than you.
Do you really think you're going to dangle a carrot with Donald Trump with 50 million bucks or a retainer of $184,000 a month?
For crying out loud, he would get that when he was making an appearance with Arsenio Hall after Celebrity Apprentice.
And that was with cutting down the price because Arsenio Hall was on the rider.
Shut up!
We get it.
We get it.
You're more urban.
Well, people have said that Joe Biden, surely there's some kind of secret bank account or something, something we'll find.
It really is just Hunter.
Hunter is the secret bank account.
Yes, Hunter is the secret bank account.
He just keeps all his money over there.
Yeah, and I know, but also secret bank account.
And not just that Hunter himself acted as a secret bank account for them, but his ass.
He was a mule.
Here we go.
Hey, it's the lady who has strong Democratic ties and tipped off Hillary Clinton with questions for the campaign last time.
Kirsten Welker.
Kristen Welker.
Welk this way.
Don't you love how they try to make her look a little more ethnic too?
Tonight's debate is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
It is conducted under health and safety protocols designed by the Commission's health security
advisor.
The audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent.
No cheers, boos, or other interruptions, except right now as we welcome to the stage former
Vice President Joe Biden and President Donald J. Trump.
God, virtue's in the way.
Let me take this mask off here.
Please Donald Trump, just aerosol particles like you're the Joker.
And I do want to say a very good evening to both of you.
This debate will cover six major topics at the beginning of each section.
Each candidate will have two minutes uninterrupted to answer my first question.
The debate commission will then turn on their microphone only when it is their turn to answer.
Oh, so she doesn't have power.
Interesting.
Which voters?
Which voters?
I almost said Savannah.
minutes have expired. After that, both microphones will remain on. But on behalf of the voters,
I'm going to ask you to please speak one at a time. The goal is for each other, which
voters to hear every word of what you both have to say. And so with that, if you're ready,
let's start. And we will begin with the fight against the coronavirus. President Trump,
the first question is for you. The country is heading into a dangerous new phase.
More than 40,000 Americans are in the hospital tonight with COVID, including record numbers here in Tennessee.
And since the two of you last shared a stage, 16,000 Americans have died from COVID.
So please be specific.
How would you lead the country during this next stage of the coronavirus crisis?
Two minutes, uninterrupted.
So, as you know, 2.2 million people modeled out were expected to die.
We closed up the greatest economy in the world in order to fight this horrible disease that came from China.
It's a worldwide pandemic.
It's all over the world.
You see the spikes in Europe and many other places right now.
If you notice, the mortality rate is down 85 percent.
The excess mortality rate is way down and much lower than almost any other country.
And we're fighting it and we're fighting it hard. There is a spike. There was a spike in Florida,
and it's now gone. There was a very big spike in Texas. It's now gone. There was a very big
spike in Arizona. It's now gone. And there were some spikes and surges and other places.
They will soon be gone. We have a vaccine that's coming. It's ready. It's going to be announced
within weeks and it's going to be delivered. We have Operation Warp Speed, which is the military
is going to distribute the vaccine. I can tell you from personal experience that I was in the hospital.
I had it.
And I got better.
And I will tell you that I had something that they gave me.
A therapeutic, I guess they would call it.
Some people could say it was a cure.
But I was in for a short period of time and I got better very fast or I wouldn't be here tonight.
And now they say I'm immune.
Whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody's been able to say that, but I'm immune.
More and more people are getting better.
We have a problem that's a worldwide problem.
This is a worldwide problem.
But I've been congratulated by the heads of many countries on what we've been able to do.
If you take a look at what we've done in terms of goggles, and masks, and gowns, and everything else, and in particular ventilators, we're now making ventilators all over the world.
Thousands and thousands of them.
Good contrast, good start.
It will go away, and as I say, we're rounding the turn, we're rounding the corner, it's going away.
Okay, former Vice President Biden to you.
How would you lead the country out of this crisis?
You have two minutes uninterrupted.
Watch for the reactions to 220,000 Americans dead.
You got nothing else I say tonight.
Here this anyone who's responsible for not taking control.
In fact, not saying I'm I take no responsibility initially.
Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America.
We're in a situation where there are a thousand deaths a day now.
A thousand deaths a day.
And there are over 70,000 new cases per day.
Compared to what's going on in Europe, as the New England Medical Journal said, they're starting from a very low rate.
We're starting from a very high rate.
The expectation is we'll have another 200,000 Americans dead between now and the end of the year.
If we just wore these masks, the president's own advisors have told him, we could save 100,000 lives.
By the way, that's not a scientific study, so I hope that gets fact-checked by Facebook and Twitter.
That mask, unless washed in a commercial washing machine that gets hot enough, does nothing.
It makes it worse.
Fact-check me, YouTube!
Find me one study that says his shitty little mask, his shitty little house-on-the-prairie headdress, unwashed, worn on his beady little face, helps anything.
There's no science.
We're in a situation now where the New England Medical Journal, one of the most serious journals in the whole world, said for the first time ever that the way this president has responded to this crisis has been absolutely tragic.
And so folks, I will take care of this.
I will end this.
I will make sure we have a plan.
President Trump, I'd like to follow up with you and your comments.
You talked about taking a therapeutic.
I assume you're referencing Regeneron.
You also said a vaccine will be coming within weeks.
Is that a guarantee?
No, it's not a guarantee, but it will be by the end of the year.
I think it's a good chance.
It's two companies, I think, within a matter of weeks.
And it will be distributed very quickly.
Can you tell us which companies?
Johnson and Johnson is doing very well.
Moderna is doing very well.
Pfizer is doing very well.
And we have numerous others.
Then we also have others that we're working on very closely with other countries, in particular Europe.
Let me follow up with you, because this is new information.
This is the fourth follow-up now.
The vaccine is coming soon, within weeks now.
Your own officials say it could take well into 2021, at the earliest, for enough Americans to get vaccinated.
And even then, they say the country will be wearing masks and distancing into 2022.
Is your timeline realistic?
No, I think my timeline is going to be more accurate.
I don't know that they're counting on the military the way I do, but we have our generals lined up.
One in particular, that's the head of logistics.
And this is a very easy distribution for him.
He's ready to go as soon as we have the vaccine.
And we expect to have 100 million vials as soon as we have the vaccine.
He's ready to go.
The Democratic Party is a party of anti-vaxxers.
They won't take the vaccine.
to Trump.
Let's see if she does that with Biden.
If it was approved by the government, what steps would you take to give Americans confidence
in a vaccine if it were approved?
The Democratic Party is a party of anti-vaxxers.
They won't take the vaccine.
They politicize it.
Make sure it's totally transparent.
Have the scientists see it, know it, look at it, go through all the processes.
And by the way, this is the same fellow who told you this is going to end by Easter last time.
This is the same fellow who told you that, don't worry, we're going to end this by the summer.
We're about to go into a dark winter.
A dark winter.
And he has no clear plan, and there's no prospect that there's going to be a vaccine available for the American people for the middle of next year.
Fear, fear, fear, hopelessness, unless you vote for him.
America, great, great, great, great progress.
President Trump's reaction, he says you have no plan.
Hope, hopelessness, fear, dark winter.
We're opening up our country.
We've learned and studied and understand the disease.
Which we didn't at the beginning.
When I closed and banned China from coming in, heavily infected, and then ultimately Europe.
But China was in January.
Months later he was saying I was xenophobic.
Catch a whiff of a six-year-old offstage.
And now he's saying, oh, I should have, you know, moved quicker.
But he didn't move quicker.
He was months behind me.
Many months behind me.
And frankly, he ran the H1N1 swine flu and it was a total disaster.
Far less lethal.
But it was a total disaster.
Had that had this kind of numbers?
700,000 people would be dead right now, but it is a far less lethal disease.
Look, his own person who ran that for him, who, as you know, was his chief of staff, said it was catastrophic.
It was horrible.
We didn't know what we were doing.
Now he comes up and he tells us how to do this.
Also, everything that he said about the way every single move that he said we should make That's what we've done.
We've done all of it.
But he was way behind us.
Vice President Biden, your response?
My response is he is xenophobic, but not because he shut down access from China.
And he did it late after 40 countries had already done that.
In addition to that, what he did, he made sure that we had 44 people that were in there in China trying to get to Wuhan to determine what exactly the source was.
What did the president say in January?
He said, no, he said this is he's being transparent.
The President of China is being transparent.
We owe him a debt of gratitude.
We have to thank him.
And then what happened was, we started talking about using the Defense Act.
Cuomo and Pelosi told people to go to Chinatown and movie theaters in March!
In March, asshat!
He had nothing, he did virtually nothing.
And you weren't anywhere.
And then he gets out of the hospital and he talks about, don't worry, it's all going to be over soon.
Come on!
There's not another serious scientist in the world who thinks it's going to be over soon.
President Trump, your reaction?
Say over soon?
I say we're learning to live with it.
We have no choice.
We can't lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does.
He has the ability to lock himself up.
Oh, there it is.
Obviously made a lot of money someplace.
Oh, that's good.
He has this thing about living in a basement.
People can't do that.
By the way, I as the president couldn't do that.
I'd love to put myself in the basement or in a beautiful room in the White House and
go away for a year and a half until it disappears.
I can't do that.
And every every meeting I had, every meeting I had, and I'd meet a lot of families, including
Gold Star families and military families.
Every meeting I had, and I had to meet them.
I had to.
It would be horrible to have canceled everything.
I said, you know, this is dangerous.
And you catch it.
And, you know, I caught it.
I learned a lot.
I learned a lot.
Great doctors, great hospitals.
And now I recovered.
99.9 of young people recover.
99% of people recover.
We have to recover.
We can't close up our nation.
We have to open our schools.
And we can't close up our nation or you're not going to have a nation.
And of course, the CDC has said young people can get sick with COVID-19 and pass it.
Vice President Biden, I want to talk broadly about strategy, though.
Put your fake thumb down.
30 seconds, please.
And then I have a question.
No, number one.
He says that we're, you know, we're learning to live with it.
In your pants.
People are learning to die with it.
You folks home will have an empty chair at the kitchen table this morning.
That man, our wife, going to bed tonight and reaching over.
He sees an empty crutch by the fireplace.
It's gone.
Fuck off.
Learning to live with it.
Come on.
We're dying with it.
Because he's never said, he said it's dangerous.
When's the last time?
Anyone heard a glimmer of hope from Biden?
Not one.
America's crap.
President's crap.
People are learning to die.
You would think that everyone was catching mass cancer.
It's not my fault that he came here.
It's China's fault.
And you know what?
It's not Joe's fault that he came here either.
It's China's fault.
They kept it from going into the rest of China for the most part, but they didn't keep it from coming out to the world, including Europe and ourselves.
Vice President Biden.
The fact is that when we knew it was coming, when it hit, what happened?
What did the president say?
You said to go to movie theaters in Chinatown.
He said, don't worry, it's gonna go away.
Be gone by Easter, don't worry.
Warm weather, don't worry.
In March, your party said go to movie theaters in Chinatown and Fauci was talking about cruises.
A whole range of things the president has said.
Even today, he thinks we are in control.
Doubt your senses.
We're about to lose 200,000 more people.
President Trump.
Look, perhaps just to finish this.
I was kidding on that, but just to finish this.
When I closed, he said I shouldn't have closed.
And that went on for months.
Nancy Pelosi said the same thing.
She was dancing on the streets in Chinatown in San Francisco.
When I closed, he said, this is a terrible thing.
You're xenophobic.
I think he called me racist even.
And because I was closing it to China.
Now he says I should have closed it earlier.
It just, Joe, it doesn't work.
I didn't say either of those things.
You certainly did.
I talked about it in a different context.
It wasn't about closing the border to Chinese I'm coming to the United States.
All right, I want to talk about both of your different strategies.
It just happened to be the day of and in response to Donald Trump's stances.
That's obvious.
Do you want to respond to that quickly, Vice President Biden?
No.
Okay.
Let's talk about your different strategies toward dealing with this.
No, because I forgot what he said.
Mr. Vice President, you suggested you would support new shutdowns if scientists... That's what they do.
They call someone racist and xenophobic and no accountability.
What do you say to Americans who are fearful that the cost of shutdowns, the impact on the economy, the higher rates of hunger, depression, domestic and substance abuse outweighs the risk of exposure to the virus?
What I would say is I'm going to shut down the virus, not the country.
It's his ineptitude to cause the virus to cause the country to have to shut down in large part.
Why businesses have gone under, why schools are closed.
Really quickly, because he's answering with nothing and I know we don't want to get hit with a copyright, but notice when she asked Donald Trump, she said, what's the timeline on the vaccine?
Can you guarantee it?
Who's going to do it?
Which companies?
Very specific.
There have been no specific answers from Biden and no follow-ups from Biden.
I'm going to shut down the virus.
If that were Donald Trump, how?
With vaccines?
Who's gonna make it?
What's the timeline?
Can you guarantee it?
Who's ever heard slow up and slow down?
down the night but there are look they need standards the standard is if you
have a reproduction rate in a community that's above a certain level everybody
says slow up more social distance ever heard slow down slow ours and do not
open gymnasiums do not get this under control hold up Slow down.
Simmer up!
But when you do open, give the people the capacity to be able to open and have the capacity to do it safely.
I want to build the economy down!
For example, schools.
Schools, they need a lot of money to open.
They need to deal with ventilation systems.
They need to deal with smaller classes, more teachers, more pods.
And he's refused to support that money, or at least up to now.
Let's talk about schools.
President Trump, can you please- I think we have to respond if I may.
Support a school choice, dumbass!
He just threw money at it.
Look, all he does is talk about shutdowns.
He's being very polite.
His Democrat governor is Cuomo in New York.
You look at what's going on in California.
You look at Pennsylvania, North Carolina.
Democrats, Democrats all, they're shut down so tight and they're dying.
They're dying.
And he supports all these people.
All he talks about is shutdowns.
No, we're not going to shut down.
And we have to open our schools.
And it's like, as an example, I have a young son.
He also tested positive.
By the time I spoke to the doctor the second time, he was fine.
It just went away.
Young people.
I guess it's their immune system.
Let me follow up with you, President Trump.
You've demanded schools open in person and insist they can do it safely.
Another specific for Trump.
Another follow-up from him.
Boston became the latest city to move its public school system entirely online after a coronavirus outbreak.
It's a softer bias, but it's actually more pervasive.
What is your message to parents who worry that sending their children to school will endanger not only their kids, but also their teachers and families?
I want to open the school.
The transmittal rate to the teachers is Very small, but I want to open the schools.
We have to open our country.
We're not gonna have a country.
You can't do this.
We can't keep this country closed.
This is a massive country with a massive economy.
People are losing their jobs.
They're committing suicide.
There's depression, alcohol, drugs at a level that nobody's ever seen before.
There's abuse, tremendous abuse.
We have to open our country.
You know, I've said it often, the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.
And that's what's happening.
And he wants to close down, he'll close down the country.
By the way, you know who's against closed downs, lockdowns?
The World Health Organization.
And now Fauci, even though he was for them.
I never said lockdowns.
I'll show you a video.
simply not true. We ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. We ought to
be able to safely open, but when they need resources to open, you need to be able to,
for example, if you're going to open a business, have social distancing within the business.
You need to have, if you have a restaurant, you need to have plexiglass dividers so people
cannot infect one another. You need to be in a position where you can take testing rapidly
and know whether a person is in fact infected.
You need to be able to trace.
You need to be able to provide all the resources that are needed to do this.
And that is not inconsistent with saying that we're going to make sure they can open safely.
And by the way, all you teachers out there, not that many of you are going to die, so don't worry about it.
So don't worry about it.
But if that's true, why shouldn't you say it?
By the way, I will say this, if you go and look at what's happened to New York, it's a ghost town.
It's a ghost town.
And when you talk about Plexiglas, these are restaurants that are dying.
These are businesses with no money.
Putting a plexiglass is unbelievably expensive, and it's not dancing.
I mean, you're going to sit there in a cubicle wrapped around with plastic.
It's these are businesses that are dying, Joe.
You can't do that to people.
You just can't.
Take a look at New York and what's happened to my wonderful city for for so many years.
I loved it.
It was vibrant.
It's dying.
Everyone's leaving New York.
Take a look at what New York has done in terms of More deaths per capita than anywhere on earth!
That'd be like saying, yeah, look at what the leprosy pit did!
saying, yeah, look at what the leprosy pit did.
What?
And look at the states that are having such a spike.
They killed all the lepers.
In the coronavirus.
They're the red states.
They're the states in the Midwest.
They're the states in the upper Midwest.
That's where the spike is occurring significantly.
But they're all Americans.
They're all Americans.
And what we have to do is say, wear these masks, come on now.
Make sure we get the help that the businesses need that has been already been asked to do that.
It's been out there since the beginning of summer, and nothing's happened.
President, New York has lost more than 40,000 people.
11,000 people in nursing homes.
The blue states have the worst economies and they have the worst death rates. It's not even close. You can bring it up
as an overlay 11,000 people in nursing home president trump. What about
say spike?
Take a look at what's happening in pennsylvania where they've had it closed
Take a look at what's happening with your friend in Michigan, where her husband's the only one allowed to do anything.
It's been like a prison.
Now it was just ruled unconstitutional.
So much rape.
They're having spikes and they've been closed and they're getting killed financially.
We can't let that happen, Joe.
You can't let that happen.
We have to open up and we understand the disease.
We have to protect our seniors.
We have to protect our elderly.
We have to protect especially our seniors with heart problems and diabetes problems,
and we will protect them.
We have the best testing in the world by far.
That's why we have so many cases.
Let me follow up with you before we move on to our next section.
President Trump, this week you called Dr. Anthony Fauci the nation's best known infectious disease expert, quote, a disaster.
You described him and other medical experts as, quote, idiots.
If you're not listening to them, who are you listening to?
I'm listening to all of them, including Anthony.
I get along very well with Anthony.
He did say don't wear masks.
He did say, as you know, this is not going to be a problem.
I think he's a Democrat, but that's OK.
He said this is not going to be a problem.
We are not going to have a problem at all.
When Joe says that, I said, Anthony Fauci said, and others, and many others, and I'm not knocking him a lot.
Nobody knew.
Look, nobody knew what this thing was.
Nobody knew where it was coming from, what it was.
We've learned a lot.
But Anthony said, don't wear masks.
Now he wants to wear masks.
Anthony also said, if you look back, exact words, here's his exact words.
This is no problem.
This is gonna go away soon.
So he's allowed to make mistakes.
He happens to be a good person.
Vice President Biden, your response quickly and then we're going to move on to the next section.
My response is that the President knew in January and didn't tell the American people.
He was told this was a serious virus that spread in the air.
We can fact check Biden on anything, sweetheart!
Anything!
Anything at all!
Look, I've got the time.
Did he just say Donald Trump knew in January and didn't do anything?
Where's the timeline here, Gibby?
I thought you put the... Okay.
January 31st announced Chinese travel restrictions and declared it a public health emergency.
Your people said go to Chinatown as far as March!
How about a follow-up, Kristen Welker?
How about a follow-up, Ms.
Abercrombie-Effnick?
I'm going to give you 30 seconds to respond and then we're going to move on.
You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street.
I don't take it.
But from some of the brokers said sell short because we got to get moving. It's a dangerous problem
This is what I have to respond and then the Wall Street one.
I don't know somebody went to wall street You're the one that takes all the money from Wall Street. I
don't take it. I hope you have raised a lot of money tremendous amounts of money
And every time you raise money, deals are made, you know?
I could raise so much more money, as president, and as somebody that knows most of those people, I could call the heads of Wall Street, the heads of every company in America, I would blow away every record, but I don't want to do that, because it puts me in a bad position.
And then you bring up Wall Street, because you're the one that takes the money from Wall Street, not me.
I could blow away your records, that you wouldn't believe. We don't need money. We have
plenty of money. In fact, we've got plenty of money. We beat Hillary Clinton with a
tiny fraction of the money that she was able to get. All right, gentlemen, we're going to move on.
Don't tell me about Wall Street.
Average contribution, $43. All right, we're going to move on to our next section, which is national
security. And I do want to start with the security of our elections and some breaking news from
overnight. Just last night, top intelligence officials confirmed again that both Russia and
Iran are working to influence this election. In a recorded call, calling Fauci an idiot,
and we're not asking Joe Biden where his money comes from.
Don't leave, man.
This is worse than Chris Wallace, and I hate that it won't get as much outrage as Chris Wallace because the outrage machine on the right doesn't spot.
This is far more subversive.
This is far worse because people don't even know what they're watching.
And I ask everyone else to take the pledge.
I made it clear that any country, no matter who it is, that interferes in American elections will pay a price.
They will pay a price.
What price?
It's been overwhelmingly clear this election.
Is Facebook a country?
I'm not even getting to the last one.
This election, that Russia has been involved, China has been involved to some degree, and now we learn that Iran is involved.
Iran, because he wants you!
They will pay a price if I'm elected.
He wants you, so you line their pockets with billions.
They're interfering with American sovereignty.
That's what's going on right now.
They're interfering with American sovereignty.
Who got the official Ayatollah Fatwa endorsement, Joe?
I don't know why he hasn't said a word to Putin about it.
And I don't know what he has recently said, if anything, to the Iranians.
My guess is he'd probably be more outspoken.
with regard to the Iranians.
But the point is this, folks.
We are in a situation where we have foreign companies, countries trying to interfere in
the outcome of our election.
His own national security adviser told him that what is happening with his buddy, well,
I won't, I shouldn't, oh, I will.
His buddy Rudy Giuliani, he's being used as a Russian pawn.
He's being fed information that is Russian, that is not true.
Do you know why he's tripping up?
Do you know why he's tripping up?
Because he doesn't want to legally be on the hook here.
He cannot say the emails are not real.
The easiest thing would be right now for Joe Biden and his beady little doll shark I don't know why he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question.
Why isn't that being done?
true. Tristan Welker, if you do not ask him about those emails, point blank, are they
authentic or not? You deserve to be fired.
He brought it up.
He's engaged in activities that are trying to destabilize all of NATO. I don't know why
he doesn't do it, but it's worth asking the question. Why isn't that being done? Any country
interferes with us will in fact pay a price because they're affecting our sovereignty.
President Trump, same question to you.
Let me ask the question.
You're going to have two minutes to respond.
For two elections in a row now, there has been substantial interference from foreign adversaries.
What would you do in your next term to put an end to this?
Two minutes on your own.
Let me respond to the first part as Joe answered.
Joe got three and a half million dollars from Russia.
And it came through Putin because he was very friendly with the former mayor of Moscow.
And it was the mayor of Moscow's wife.
And you got three and a half million dollars.
Your family got three and a half million dollars.
And, you know, someday you're going to have to explain why did you get three and a half?
I never got any money from Russia.
I don't get money from Russia.
Now about your thing last night, I knew all about that.
And through John, who is John Ratcliffe, who is fantastic DNI, he said, The one thing that's common to both of them, they both want you to lose.
Because there has been nobody tougher to Russia.
Between the sanctions, nobody tougher than me on Russia.
Absolutely.
Between the sanctions, between all of what I've done with NATO.
You know, I've got the NATO countries to put up an extra $130 billion going to $420 billion a year.
That's to go out against Russia.
I sold, while he was selling pillows and sheets.
I sold tank busters to Ukraine.
There has been nobody tougher in Russia than Donald Trump.
I'll tell you, they were so bad, they took over the submarine port.
You remember that very well.
He doesn't.
During you and Barack Obama, they took over a big part of what should have been Ukraine.
You handed it to them, but you were getting a lot of money from Russia.
They were paying you a lot of money, and they probably still are.
But now, with what came out today, it's even worse.
All of the emails, the emails, the horrible emails of the kind of money that you were raking in, you and your family, and Joe, you were vice president when some of Are those emails false?
Give him the rope.
Someone give him the rope.
Please.
someone give him the right.
Please.
Why is it somebody just had a news conference a little while ago.
Yeah, there it is.
It was essentially supposed to work with you and your family.
But what he said was damning.
And regardless of me, I think you have to clean it up and talk to the American people.
Maybe you can do it right now.
Vice President Biden, you may respond.
I do want to follow up on the election security.
I have not taken a penny from any foreign source ever in my life.
We learned that this president paid 50 times the tax in China, has a secret bank account with China, does business in China, and in fact is talking about me taking money?
I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever, ever.
Number one.
Number two.
Mr. President, I have released all of my tax returns.
22 years.
That's the same talking point.
22 years of my tax returns.
The email's real, Joe.
I don't give a rat's ass if you're one of the least successful businessmen in government.
Which, by the way, is why you support lockdowns or shutting down businesses for 25 percent.
You think a restaurant can operate at 25 percent capacity with plexiglass?
He has no idea because he's suckled at the government teats for his entire life.
Donald Trump knows you can't operate at 25 percent capacity.
It's not the new normal, because it cannot be sustained.
He's full of shit.
He's not answering.
If Christian Welker doesn't ask him, are the emails authentic?
They said, sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars.
I prepaid my tax.
Tens over the last number of years.
Tens of millions of dollars I prepaid.
Because at some point they think it's an estimate, they think I may have to pay tax.
So I already prepaid it.
Nobody told me that.
Nobody told you that.
Excuse me.
And it wasn't written, whenever they write this, they keep talking about $750, which I think is a filing fee.
But let me just tell you, I prepaid millions and millions of dollars in taxes.
Number one.
Number two, I don't make money from China.
You do.
I don't make money from Ukraine.
You do.
I don't make money from Russia.
You made $3.5 million, Joe, and your son gave you.
They even have a statement that we have to give 10% to the big man.
You're the big man, I think.
I don't know.
Maybe you're not.
But you're the big man, I think.
Your son said we have to give 10% to the big man.
Joe, what's that all about?
It's terrible.
I'm going to let you both respond very quickly.
You said you spoke to your accountant about potentially releasing your taxes.
Did he tell you when you can release them?
Do you have a deadline for when you're going to release them?
I get negated worse than the Tea Party got treated.
Because I have a lot of people in there, deep down in the IRS, they treat me horribly.
We made a deal, it was all settled until I decide to run for president.
I get treated very badly by the IRS, very unfairly.
But we had a deal all done.
As soon as we're completed with the deal, I wanna release it.
But I have paid millions and millions of dollars, and it's worse than paying.
I paid in advance, it's called pre-paying your taxes, I paid in advance.
I want to ask you both about questions regarding your potential foreign entanglements and questions that have been raised to give you both a chance to talk about this more broadly.
Respond very quickly and then I'll get to my question.
He's been saying this for four years.
Show us.
Just show us.
Stop playing around.
Nobody knows it, Mr. President.
What they do know is you're not paying your taxes or you're paying taxes that are so low.
When last time he said what he paid- Undertaker, I'm gonna need a refill.
Make this one a little stronger, please.
I know how to game the system.
Come on.
Come on, folks.
Come on, drink.
I'll see you on ice.
I was put through a phony witch hunt for three years.
It started before I even got elected.
They spied on my campaign.
No president should ever have to go through what I went through.
Let me just say this.
Mueller and 18 angry Democrats and FBI agents all over the place spent $48 million.
That's not a doubt.
That's not a question.
Why does he have to tell her to let him speak?
Including my tax returns.
And they found absolutely no collusion and nothing wrong.
$48 million.
I guarantee you if I spent $1 million on you, Joe, I could find plenty wrong.
Because the kind of things that you've done and the kind of monies that your family has taken.
I mean, your brother made money in Iraq.
Millions of dollars.
Your other brother made a fortune.
And it's all through you, Joe.
And they say you get some of it.
And you do live very well.
You have houses all over the place.
You live very well.
All right, gentlemen, let me just ask some questions about all of this broadly.
Vice President Biden, there have been questions about the work your son has done in China.
That's his tell when he's lying.
For a Ukrainian energy company when you were vice president.
Play poker with Biden.
Oh man, he's bluffing.
Is anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical?
Nothing was unethical.
Here's what the deal.
What about inappropriate?
With regard to Ukraine.
We had this whole question about whether or not, because he was on the board of Arizona, a company, that somehow I had done something wrong.
Every single solitary person when he was going through his impeachment, testifying under oath to work for him, said I did my job impeccably.
I carried out U.S.
policy.
Not one single solitary thing was out of line.
Not a single thing.
Number one.
Number two.
The guy who got in trouble in Ukraine was this guy trying to bribe the Ukrainian government to say something negative about me, which they would not do, and did not do, because it never, ever, ever happened.
What?
What is he talking about?
Red's abandoned us on here.
Is there any reason?
This is totally fabricated and new.
In terms of this thing about... She should follow up on that.
What?
What are you talking about?
China.
I have not had... The only guy who made money from China is this guy.
Huh?
Nobody else has made money from China.
President Trump, let me ask my question to you, very quickly.
His son didn't have a job for a long time, was sadly no longer in the military service, I won't get into that, and he didn't have a job.
As soon as he became Vice President, Burisma, not the best reputation in the world, I hear they paid him $183,000 a month.
183 and they gave him a $3 million upfront payment.
All right.
And he had no energy.
I'm going to let the vice president get to a question to you.
No basis for that.
Everybody investigated that.
No one said anything he did was wrong in Ukraine.
Okay, President Trump, this is for you.
Incorrect.
Since you took office, you've never divested from your business.
The guy who works with you just before this, who said there wasn't, he just handed over laptops and cell phones.
This week, which was referenced, does indicate that your company has a bank account in China.
So how can voters know that you don't have any foreign conflicts of interest?
I have many bank accounts, and they're all listed, and they're all over the place.
I mean, I was a businessman doing business.
The bank account you're referring to, which everybody knows about it, it's listed.
The bank account was in...
2013.
That's what it was.
It was open to do.
It was closed in 2015, I believe.
And then I decided because I was going to do I was thinking about doing a deal in China like millions of other people.
I was thinking about it.
And I decided I'm not going to do it.
Didn't like it.
I decided not to do it.
Had an account open and I closed it.
Okay, excuse me.
And then, unlike him, where he's vice president and he does business, I then decided to run for president after that.
That was before.
So I closed it before I even ran for president, let alone became president.
Big difference.
He is the vice president of the United States, and his son, his brother, and his other brother are getting rich.
They're like a vacuum cleaner.
Not true.
My son is not a vacuum cleaner.
He does not suck.
He blows.
He blows.
Nah, his banging 10 gram crack rocks makes Charlie Sheen look like droopy eyed armless children, but he is not a Kirby.
He snorts.
He does blow.
What I think China do is play by the international rules.
Not like he has done.
He has caused the deficit in China to go up, not down.
With China.
Up, not down.
We are making sure that in order to do business in China, you have to give all your intellectual property, you have to have a partner in China that's 51%.
We would not do that at all, number one.
Number two, we're in a situation where China would have to play by the rules internationally as well.
There has never been more intellectual property theft in the history of the United States and under the Obama administration, period.
Ever.
Ask that, Tristan Welker!
Ask that or do you feel bad for him because he already pooped his defense.
Come on, ask that!
Intellectual property theft.
Ask about TPP.
Ask about NAFTA versus the United States-Mexico agreement, Canada agreement.
Ask!
And the Chinese President and Putin and others.
And he pokes his finger in the eye of all of our friends, all of our allies.
We make up only... You mean like Israel?
25%.
What did you do for them?
25%.
You gave Iran money.
You want them wiped off the face of the map?
Donald Trump signed the greatest peace treaty that we've seen in our lifetime.
What did you do with our allies?
These are the rules.
You play by them or you're going to pay the price for not paying by them.
You had a key swapping party with Trudeau?
That's the way I want it.
And that's what we did.
And upholding steel tariffs and a range of other things.
And we were president and vice president.
All right, let's talk about North Korea.
Excuse me, you don't have to respond to that.
Okay, very quickly.
Very nice.
After spending 10 minutes in office and being in Air Force Two, number one.
Number two, there's a very strong email talking about your family wanting to make $10 million a year for introductions.
President Trump, on China policy, though, what specifically are you going to do?
That is about introductions to foreign entities, sweetheart!
You said you're going to make them pay.
China is paying.
They're paying billions and billions of dollars.
I just gave $28 billion to our farmers.
Taxpayers' money.
Oh, you're concerned with taxpayer money.
You know who the taxpayer is?
It's called China.
China paid $20,000.
They devalued their currency and they also paid up.
Why is Biden's mic on?
And you know who got the money?
Our farmers, our great farmers, because they were targeted.
You never charged them anything.
Also, I charged them 25% on dumped steel because they were killing our steel industry.
We were not going to have a steel industry.
And now we have a steel industry.
Vice President Biden, your response, please.
Our response is, look, there's a reason why he's bringing up all this malarkey.
There's a reason for it.
He doesn't want to talk about the substantive issues.
It's not about his family and my family.
It's about your family.
And your family's hurting badly.
If you're making less than, if you're a middle class family, you're getting hurt badly right now.
By the way, middle class families, okay, are making on average over $4,000 more per year in three and a half years of Donald Trump compared to a $1,000 gain under eight years of Obama will bring up the overlay.
Middle class families have never seen fewer gains, fewer tangible gains, That's a typical political statement.
Let's get off this China thing and then he looks.
The family, around the table, everything.
Just a typical politician when I see that.
I'm not a typical politician.
That's why I got elected.
Let's get off the subject of China.
Let's talk around sitting around the table.
Come on Joe, you can do better.
President Trump, you've met with North Korea... I wish you wouldn't have said the average wage increase, but I'll take it.
You've talked about your beautiful letters with him, you've touted the fact that there hasn't been a war or a long-range missile test, and yet North Korea recently rolled out its biggest ever intercontinental ballistic missile and continues to develop its nuclear arsenal.
Do you see that as a betrayal of the relationship?
They rolled out a Lego toy instead of a... I did, you see?
If we use that, send food and money, please.
Obama, we sat in the White House right at the beginning, had a great conversation.
It was supposed to be 15 minutes and it was well over an hour.
He said the biggest problem we have with North is North Korea.
He indicated we will be in a war with North Korea.
Guess what?
It would be a nuclear war.
And he does have plenty of nuclear capability.
In the meantime, I have a very good relationship with him.
Different kind of a guy, but he probably thinks the same thing about me.
We have a different kind of a relationship.
We have a very good relationship, and there's no war.
And you know, about two months ago, he broke into a certain area.
They said, oh, there's gonna be trouble.
I said, no, they're not, because he's not gonna do that.
And I was right.
Look, instead of being in a war where millions of people, Seoul, you know, is 25 miles away, Millions and millions, 32 million people.
Millions of people would be dead right now.
We don't have a war and I have a good relationship.
Did they just turn Donald Trump's mic off?
Did they?
While he was answering but didn't turn Joe Biden's mic off?
President Biden, to you, North Korea conducted four nuclear tests under the Obama administration.
Why do you think you would be able to rein in this persistent threat?
Because I made it clear to China they had to be part of the deal because here's the
ring.
I mean, while he was answering, but didn't turn Joe Biden's mic off while Trump was answering.
They said, why are you moving your missile defense up so close?
Why are you moving more forces here?
Why are you continuing to do military maneuvers with South Korea?
I said because North Korea is a problem and we're going to continue to do it.
He's talked about his good buddy who's a thug.
A thug.
And he talks about how we're better off.
first three years in office, it's over $5,000 over the course of four years.
Eight years of Obama, about $1,000.
I think we have a source in the Wall Street Journal.
Let's go back to crazy, demented old circus monkey.
He's talked about his good buddy, who's a thug, a thug, and he talks about how we're better off.
And they have much more capable missiles, able to reach US territory much more easily than everybody
never did before.
else.
Let me follow up with you, Vice President Biden.
You've said you wouldn't meet with Kim Jong-un without preconditions.
Are there any conditions under which you would meet with him?
I don't think I'd do it without preconditions.
I'm riddled with them, Kirsten.
I don't think he would agree that he would be drawing down his nuclear capacity to get
that the Korean Peninsula should be a nuclear-free zone.
All right, let's move on to American family members.
How about Iran?
Could Iran be a nuclear-free zone, you prick?
Who, by the way, he combed his hair.
Look at the back of his head, it's like Sonic.
He didn't like him.
He wouldn't do it.
There's a point.
Okay, I got to get him to respond to that before we move on.
And that's okay.
You know what, North Korea?
We're not in a war.
We have a good relationship.
You know, people don't understand.
Having a good relationship with leaders of other countries is a good thing.
We have a lot of questions to get to.
We had a good relationship with Hitler before he in fact invaded.
What?
The rest of Europe.
Come on.
You were giving handjobs to Akhmedinejad.
That's why Iran launched a disinformation campaign to intimidate people into not voting for Donald Trump.
That just happened today.
Iran wants Joe Biden.
And they're far greater of a threat than North Korea.
Not only to us, but to our allies.
North Korea was a mess.
And in fact, if you remember the first two or three months, there was a very dangerous period in my first three months before we sort of worked things out a little bit.
It was a very good.
They left us a mess.
And Obama would be, I think, the first to say it was the single biggest problem.
He thought that our country.
All right, let's move on to American families and the economy.
One of the issues that's most important to them is healthcare, as you both know.
Today there was a key vote in a new Supreme Court, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, and healthcare is at the center of her confirmation vote.
Over 20 million Americans get their health insurance Sure.
through the Affordable Care Act.
And a hooker says the blessing.
It's headed to the Supreme Court.
And your administration, Mr. President, is advocating for the court to overturn it.
If the Supreme Court does overturn that law, those 20 million Americans could lose their
health insurance almost overnight.
So what would you do if those people have their health insurance taken away and you
have two minutes uninterrupted?
Sure.
First of all, I've already done something that nobody thought was possible.
Through the legislature, I terminated the individual mandate.
That is the worst part of Obamacare, as we call it.
The individual mandate where you have to pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad health insurance.
I terminated it.
It's gone.
Now it's in court because Obamacare is no good.
But then I made a decision.
Run it as well as you can to my people, great people.
Run it as well as you can.
I could have gone the other route and made everybody very unhappy.
They ran it.
Premiums are down, everything's down.
Here's the problem.
No matter how well you run it, it's no good.
What we'd like to do is terminate it.
We have the individual mandate done.
I don't know that it's going to work.
If we don't win, we will have to run it, and we'll have Obamacare, but it'll be better run.
But it no longer is Obamacare, because without the individual mandate, it's much different.
Pre-existing conditions will always stay.
What I would like to do is a much better healthcare, much better, We'll always protect people with pre-existing.
So I'd like to terminate Obamacare, come up with a brand new, beautiful healthcare.
The Democrats will do it because there'll be tremendous pressure on them, and we might even have the House by that time.
And I think we're going to win the House, okay?
You'll see, but I think we're going to win the House.
But come up with a better healthcare, always protecting people with pre-existing conditions.
We have 180 million people out there that have great private healthcare, far more than we're talking about with Obamacare.
Joe Biden is gonna terminate all of those policies.
These are people that love their healthcare, people that have been successful, middle income people, been successful.
They have 180 million plans, 180 million people, families, under what he wants to do, which will basically be socialized medicine.
He won't even have a choice.
They want to terminate 180 million plans.
We have done an incredible job on healthcare, and we're going to do even better.
This is where Biden has an advantage of never having actually held a resistant position.
Okay, Vice President Biden, yes, this is for you.
Your healthcare plan calls for building on Obamacare.
So my question is, what is your plan if the law is ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court?
You have two minutes on the record.
How about you ask him about deductibles going up an average of 200-something percent over two years' time?
How about you ask him about premiums going up 400-something percent?
If you, in fact, do not have the wherewithal to be, if you qualify for Medicaid and you do not have the wherewithal in your state to get Medicaid, you automatically are enrolled, providing competition for insurance companies.
That's what's going to happen.
Secondly, we're going to make sure we reduce the three dollars and reduce drug prices by making sure that there's competition that doesn't exist now by allowing ...of Medicare to negotiate drug prices with the insurance companies.
Thirdly, the idea that I want to eliminate private insurance.
The reason why I had such a fight for the 20 candidates for the nomination was I support private insurance.
nomination was I support private insurance. How about allowing people to purchase plans
based on their health? Not one single person with private insurance could lose their insurance
under my plan, nor did they under Obamacare. They did not lose their insurance. Unless
they chose, they wanted to go to something else.
Lastly, we're going to make sure we're in a situation that we can actually protect lives.
That's right, because I thought if they liked their doctor, they could keep their doctor, and it turns out that they couldn't.
Do we have the number?
Is it two out of three, or one in three doctors will not take Medicare or Medicaid anymore?
It's a huge number.
There is no, he's never come up with a plan.
I guess we're going to get the pre-existing condition plan at the same time we get the infrastructure plan that we've been waiting for since 17, 18, 19, 20.
The fact, I still have a few more minutes.
I know you're getting anxious.
1920, the year you were born.
The fact is that he's already cost the American people because of his terrible handling of the COVID virus and the economic spillover.
10 million people have lost their private insurance.
And he wants to take away 22 million more people who have it under Obamacare and over 110 million people with pre-existing conditions.
And all the people from COVID are going to have pre-existing conditions.
What are they going to do?
I have a follow up for you, Vice President Biden.
It relates to something President Trump said.
He's accusing you of wanting socialized medicine.
What do you say to people who have concerns that your health care plan, which includes a government insurance option, takes the country one step closer to a health care system run entirely by the government?
It's ridiculous.
It's like saying that, you know, we're the idea that the fact that there's a public option that people can choose.
That makes it a socialist plan?
Here's what happens.
It's just like those laws.
It's anti-trust laws, anti-monopoly laws.
Let's say there are four gas stations on a corner.
You don't need to hear Joe Biden right now.
Let's say there are four gas stations.
One company owns three, right?
Owns three gas stations, drives the price down even though they're losing money so that that fourth gas station goes out of business and they drive the prices back up.
That's what the public option is.
The public option doesn't have to be efficient.
Doesn't matter if there's red tape.
Insurance companies try to compete and then someone like Joe Biden says, Throw a couple more trillion dollars at it, all of a sudden private insurance goes out of business, there's no competition, there's no accountability, and then you end up with a 52% income tax rate like you have in my home province of Quebec.
Or the income tax rate in a state like California or New York of I think 62%, which is why 50 Cent endorsed Donald Trump.
Public option is socialized healthcare.
Don't buy the bullshit.
for eight years and it's not like it was 25 years ago. It was three and three
quarters. It was just a little while ago, right? Less than four years ago. He didn't
do anything. He didn't do it. He wants socialized medicine and it's not that he
wants it. His vice president, I mean, she is more liberal than Bernie Sanders and
wants it even more.
Bernie Sanders wants it.
The Democrats want it.
You're going to have socialized medicine, just like you want it with fracking.
We're not going to have fracking.
We're going to stop fracking.
We're going to stop fracking.
Then he goes to Pennsylvania after he gets a nomination.
And he goes to Pennsylvania and he says, oh, we're going to have fracking.
And you never asked that question.
And by the way, so far, I respect very much the way you're handling this, I have to say.
But somebody should ask the question.
He goes for a year.
We have a number of topics.
I think they're not supposed to be cut.
The same thing with socializing.
I think they're not supposed to be cut while they're past the two minute time.
It's the same thing with socializing.
But they did cut Trump at least once.
Vice President, your response please.
My response is people deserve to have affordable health care.
Period.
Period, period, period.
And the Bidencare proposal will in fact provide for that affordable healthcare, lower premiums, and what we're going to do is going to cost some money.
But why did you not do it when you were an office show?
Premiums went up, deductibles went up, record numbers, pharmaceuticals went up.
There's one guy on this stage right now, one guy, who's the first president in the history of modern America to bring down the average cost of drug prices.
It's the guy with the orange face!
When he says public option, he's talking about socialized medicine and health care.
When he talks about a public option, he's talking about destroying your Medicare, and destroying your Social Security, and this whole country will come down.
You know, Bernie Sanders tried it in his state.
He tried it in his state.
His governor was a very liberal governor.
They want to make it work.
It was impossible to work.
It doesn't work.
He's a very confused guy.
He thinks he's running against somebody else.
He's running against Joe Biden.
I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them.
Joe Biden he's running against.
And the idea that we're in a situation that they're going to destroy Medicare.
This is the guy that the actuary at Medicare said, if in fact, at Social Security, If in fact he continues to withhold his plan to withhold the tax on Social Security, Social Security will be bankrupt by 2023 with no way to make up for it.
This is the guy who's tried to cut Medicare.
You raided the Social Security fund, asshole, to fund companies like Solyndra!
You raided a social security fund!
There's no money in there!
It's a shell game!
Just like a shell game with Hunter Biden as the shell corporation.
Pick one.
It's always Hunter.
It's always Hunter.
Let's move on.
I'm going to move on.
Mr. President, I have to move on to the next question.
They said the stock market will boom if I'm elected.
If he's elected, the stock market will crash.
Okay, let's move on to the next question.
Very quickly.
The idea that the stock market is booming is his only measure of what's happening.
Where I come from in Scranton and Claremont, the people don't live off of the stock market.
The people in Scranton hate you and everyone on Wall Street gives you money.
The billionaires in this country made, according to Wall Street, $700 billion more.
$700 billion more dollars.
Because the economy is better!
The average American makes $5,000 more per year!
The average American family!
Under you, the average American family, Joe, didn't even outpace inflation!
He didn't make an old circus monkey?
He lived there for a short period of time before he even knew her.
Let me move on to my next question, gentlemen.
As of tonight, more than 12 million people are out of work, and as of tonight, 8 million more Americans have fallen into poverty, and more families are going hungry every day.
Those hit hardest are women and people of color.
They see Washington fighting over a relief bill.
Mr. President, why haven't you been able to get them the help they need?
30 seconds here.
Because Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve it.
I do.
But you're the president.
I do, but I still have to get, unfortunately.
That's one of the reasons I think we're going to take over the House.
He's a president who doesn't do it all by mandate.
Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve anything.
Nancy Pelosi All right, Mr. Vice President.
The Republican leader in the United States Senate said he can't pass it.
He will not be able to pass it.
He does not have Republican votes.
Why ain't he talking to his Republican friends?
Let me follow up with you, Vice President.
Did Pelosi say you take the $1.8 trillion, Biden?
You are the leader of the Democratic Party.
It's not because of Republicans.
Why have you not pushed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people?
Oh, I have, and they have pushed it.
Look, they passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer.
This is like it's not new.
It's been out there.
This HEROES Act has been sitting there.
And look at what's happening.
When I was in charge of the Recovery Act with $800 billion, I was able to get $145 billion to local communities that have to balance their budgets and stakes.
And what about taxpayer dollars?
What happened to that when he was talking about it earlier?
Whereas Donald Trump was discussing something that was directly funded by taxes on China?
I got $800 billion!
Whose dollars?
He will not support that.
They have not done a thing for that.
1.8 trillion your party said no.
1.8 trillion your party said no.
1.8 trillion Democrats said no.
How many trillion Democrats have said no?
It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars to these kids.
It was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally.
We were gonna take care of everything for them.
And what that does, and I'd love to do that, I'd love to help them.
But what that does, everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country.
We can't do it.
This was a way of taking care of them.
This was a way of spending on things that had nothing to do with COVID, as per your question.
But it was really a big bailout for badly run Democrat cities and states.
If I get elected, I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I'm going to be an American president.
I don't see red states and blue states.
What I see is America, the United States.
And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble.
They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue, cops, firefighters, first responders, teachers, because they have to balance their budget.
And the founders were smart.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Police officers, military, firefighters.
Teachers, shut the hell up!
I'm so sorry.
Teachers are going into a burning building.
Like, teachers have a villain that you would see in Backdraft.
For crying out loud, you might have a kid who eats paste.
I'm sorry, teachers, thank you for what you do.
But you are not first responders.
You are not the firefighters.
In 9-11, the important people were NYPD, FDNY, and the military.
It's not you, teachers.
I'm sorry.
I'm tired of deifying teachers.
It allows us to be able to call PPP.
I wish I could work nine months a year.
Money is supposed to go to help them do everything from organize how they can deal with their businesses being opened safely, schools, how they can make classrooms smaller, how they can hire more teachers, how they can put ventilation systems in.
They need the help.
The businesses as well as the schools need the help.
Open up, Joe.
But these guys will not help them.
It's not giving them any of the money.
This guy won't help with the money and the help.
Minimum wage, that's not helping.
I think it should be a state option.
Alabama is different than New York.
New York is different from Vermont.
Every state is different.
It should be a state option.
You said very recently... We have to help, it's very important, we have to help our small businesses.
How are you helping your small businesses when you're forcing wages?
What's going to happen, and what's been proven to happen, is when you do that, these small businesses fire many of their employees.
You said very recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.
You said recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour.
And I would consider it to an extent, but what I really like, in a second administration,
but not to a level that's going to put all these businesses out of business.
It should be a state option.
Look, I've lived in different places.
I know different places.
They're all different.
Here's the thing.
You can choose.
Some places, $15 is not so bad.
The average American family has increased their wages by over $5,000 in four years of
You can pick that or $15 an hour and put the average American family out of business or into a single income household.
That's your choice.
Filet-O-Fish, $17 an hour?
Go screw yourself.
...down the street because they've allowed us to make it.
What's happening?
They deserve a minimum wage of $15.
Anything below that puts you below the poverty level.
First responders get more than $15.
And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, businesses go out of business.
That is simply not true.
Did he just say first responders don't make $15 an hour?
He said $7, $8 an hour.
They make us survive.
We're going to talk about immigration now, gentlemen.
And we're going to talk about families in this context.
Mr. President, your administration separated children from their parents at the border.
Point it out, Trump.
He did it.
He hears your questions.
He did it.
Shh.
But the United States can't locate the parents of more than 500 children.
So how will these families ever be reunited?
Children are brought here by coyotes and lots of bad people, cartels, and they're brought
here and they used to use them to get into our country.
We now have as strong a border as we've ever had.
400 miles of brand new wall.
You see the numbers, and we let people in, but they have to come in legally, and they come in through mail.
But how will you reunite these kids with their families, Mr. President?
Let me just tell you, they built cages.
You know, they used to say, I built the cages, and then they had a picture in a certain Do you have a plan to reunite the kids?
of these horrible cages and they said look at these cages, President Trump built them
and then it was determined they were built in 2014.
That was him.
Do you have a plan to reunite the kids?
Yes we're working on it very, we're trying very hard.
But a lot of these kids come out without the parents.
They come over through cartels and through coyotes and through gangs.
I believe it was 93 under Bill Clinton.
Know your shit, Kristen Wilker.
These 500 plus kids came with parents.
They separated them at the border to make it a disincentive to come to begin with.
No, because the Flores consent policy deemed it cruel and unusual treatment of children to imprison them the way they would with parents.
That is why.
People need to understand this.
Kristen Welker either knows this and is lying, or she is an idiot unfit to moderate this debate.
You need someone who's sharp enough to call someone on their bullshit, and that's all Biden is.
He's a walking pile of corn-infested bullshit!
With googly eyes!
Let's talk about what we're talking about.
What happened?
Parents were ripped, their kids were ripped from their arms and separated.
No!
And now they cannot find over 500 sets of those parents and those kids are alone.
Nowhere to go.
Nowhere to go.
And those kids are alone.
Nowhere to go.
Nowhere to go.
It's criminal.
It's criminal.
Let me ask you about immigration.
Ten seconds and then I need to go to Mexico.
I hear it's a big place, Honduras, where they came from.
They're in facilities that were so clean.
But some of them haven't been reunited with their families.
But just ask one question.
Who built the cages?
I'd love you to ask him that.
Who built the cages?
Let me ask about your immigration policy, Mr. Vice President Obama.
Oh, laser into the question, Christopher!
You've asked a leading false question.
Who built the cages?
Because we made a mistake.
It took too long to get it right.
It took too long to get it right.
So why should voters trust you with an immigration overhaul now?
Because we made a mistake. It took too long to get it right.
Immigration not on the list of topics.
I'll be President of the United States, not Vice President of the United States.
I'm so confused.
Holy shit!
it very clear. Within 100 days I'm going to send to the United States Congress a pathway
to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people.
Holy shit! Everyone should repeat that on a loop like a morphine drip. He's going to
give a path to citizenship right away to 11 million undocumented immigrants, meaning illegal
aliens.
Someone should put that on a loop like a morphine drip and just put that on the Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania airwaves.
Send it to the Steelworkers Union.
Senator UAW, he just said that 11 million people who will take four, five, six, seven dollars an hour, people who have no interest in the American economy, in the average American worker, that he will give them a pathway to citizenship and to vote.
If that makes it on the airwaves in the Midwest, in that rust belt, The key demographic right now, he loses the election.
I bet you they won't talk about it.
He is immediately going to give a pathway to 11 million.
If that happens, there goes the United States of America.
Because we already calculated over 2 million compromised, potentially compromised votes in this election.
Now let's add 11 million people who are indebted to Biden because he used taxpayer dollars to give them free citizenship to the most valuable country that has ever granted citizenship in the history of the United States.
Came across and they were arrested.
They in fact were given a date to show up for their hearing.
They were released.
And guess what?
They showed up for a hearing.
This is the first president in the history of the United States- What about the ones who were released and raped people?
You piece of shit.
Yeah.
Or murdered them.
That's never happened before in America.
That's never happened before in America.
You come to the United States and you make your case that I seek asylum based on the following premise, why I deserve it.
What premise?
What premise?
They have to be fleeing a persecuting government.
Not just, my country sucks.
We get it!
All of South America sucks!
That's not enough of a reason!
The reason that Ronald Reagan, the reason that Americans Have a heart for Cuban Americans.
By the way, overwhelmingly Republican when they come here and they kiss the soil.
They vote overwhelmingly Republican because they are fleeing a government who will kill them if they speak out against the government or they play the saxophone!
They are fleeing a government that is persecuting them while, by the way, your administration took a picture in front of the persecutor Che Guevara, the only warlord, by the way, to be found, I think, in Bolivia with a rifle that had never been fired.
Cuban Americans want to be American and they're fleeing a persecuting government.
That's not the same with people fleeing a shitty country!
Okay, President Trump, let's give Vice President Biden a chance to respond and then we're going to move on to the next section.
You don't know the law, do you?
Vice President Biden, your response.
Know the law or he's telling you it's simply not true.
Well, check it out.
They don't come back.
Check it out.
All right, let's move on to the next section.
But we don't have to worry about it because they terminated it, so we don't have to worry about it anymore.
Let's move on to the next section.
Yeah, 525 kids not knowing where in God's name they're going to be and lost their parents.
Go ahead.
All right.
Let's talk about our next section, which is race in America.
And I want to talk about the way black and brown Americans experience race in this country.
Part of that experience is something called the talk.
It happens regardless of class and income.
Parents who feel they have no choice but to prepare their children for the chance that they could be targeted, including by the police, for no reason other than the color of their skin.
Mr. Vice President, in the next two minutes, I want you to speak directly to these families.
Do you understand why these parents care for their children?
I do.
I do.
My daughter is a social worker and she's written a lot about this.
She has a graduate degree from the University of Pennsylvania in social work.
One of the reasons why I ended up working on the east side of Wilmington, Delaware, which is 90% African American, was to learn more about what was going on.
What I didn't, I never had to tell my daughter, if she's pulled over, make sure she puts, for a traffic stop, put both hands on top of the wheel and don't reach for the glove box because someone may shoot you.
But a black parent, no matter how wealthy or how poor they are, has to teach their child
when you're walking down the street, don't have a hoodie on when you go across the street.
Making sure that you in fact, if you get pulled over, yes, yes sir, no sir, hands on top of
the wheel.
Because you are in fact the victim of a person making $300,000 a year person or someone who's
on food stamps.
Holy shit Did he just say all blacks are on food stamps?
Did I just hear that?
Did I just hear that?
That is what he said.
Did you guys hear that?
That's audio wave.
I think that's true.
Did you guys hear that?
Yeah.
That is what he said.
What a racist son of a bitch.
Wow.
You ain't black.
You ain't black.
There.
The end of keeping blacks on food stamps?
Yeah.
You know what?
to inclusion, not exclusion.
This is the first president to come along and say that's the end of that.
We're not going to do that anymore.
We have to provide for economic opportunity, better education, better health care, better
access to schooling, better access to opportunities.
because that's why he has a record number of votes.
All the things we can do, and I've laid out a clear plan as to how to do those things,
just to give people a shot.
It's about accumulating the ability to have wealth as well as it is to be free from violence.
President Trump, I'd like you to speak directly to these families so you understand why these parents fear for their children.
Yes, I do.
And again, he's been in government 47 years.
He never did a thing, except in 1994, when he did such harm to the black community.
And they were called, and he called them super predators.
And he said that, he said it, super predators, and they have never looked at that.
In 1994, your crime bill, the super predators, nobody has done more for the black community
than Donald Trump.
And if you look, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln, possible exception, but the exception
of Abraham Lincoln, nobody has done what I think.
Criminal justice reform.
Obama and Joe didn't do it.
I don't even think they tried because they had no chance of doing it.
They might have wanted to do it.
But if you had to see the arms, I had a twist to get that done.
It was not a pretty picture.
And everybody knows it, including some very liberal people that cried in my office.
They cried in the Oval Office.
Two weeks later, they're out saying, gee, we have to defeat him.
Criminal justice reform, prison reform, Opportunity Zones with Tim Scott, a great senator from South Carolina.
He came in with this incredible idea for Opportunity Zones.
It's one of the most successful programs.
People don't talk about it.
Tremendous investment is being made, biggest beneficiary, the black and Hispanic communities, and then historically black colleges and universities.
After three years of coming to the office, I love some of those guys, they were great.
They came into the office and they said, I said, what are you doing?
After three years, I said, why do you keep coming back?
Because we have no funding.
I said, you don't have to come back every year.
We have to come back because President Obama would never give them long term funding.
And I did 10 year long term funding.
And I gave them more money than they asked for because they said, I think you need more.
And I said, the only bad part about this is I may never see you again, because I got very friendly with them.
And they like me and I like them.
But I saved it.
That was a very inspiring answer.
And again, notice the difference.
Joe Biden, based on falsehoods, you get shot in this and blacks need to be on welfare and violence.
And Donald Trump says, here's what I've done and this is my vision for black Americans.
And by the way, his vision for black Americans is exactly the same as how he described the vision for all working middle class Americans.
Joe Biden just said you're gonna get shot, no one cares about you, and you need to vote for me and food stamps.
There's no positivity.
There's no vision.
This is very clear tonight.
Donald Trump loves America and believes in America.
Joe Biden... America is a useful tool for his election campaign.
He doesn't get what it's about.
He certainly doesn't get what black Americans are about.
The very law he's talking about is a law that, in fact, initiated by Barack Obama.
And secondly, we're in a situation here where... What about your law?
What about Kamala's laws that put more non-violent drug offenders behind bars than any in modern American history?
What about those laws?
No minimum mandatories in the law.
That's why I'm offering 20 billion dollars to states to change their state laws to eliminate minimum mandatories and set up drug courts.
No one should be going to jail because they have a drug problem.
They should be going to rehabilitation, not to jail.
We should fundamentally change the system and that's what I'm going to do.
But why didn't he do it four years ago?
Why didn't you do that four years ago, even less than that?
Why didn't you?
You were vice president.
You keep talking about all these things you're going to do.
But you were there just a short time ago.
And you guys did nothing.
You know, Joe, I ran because of you.
I ran because of Barack Obama.
Because you did a poor job.
If I thought you did a good job, I would have never run.
I would have never run.
I ran because of you.
I'm looking at you now.
You're a politician.
I ran because of you.
All right, Vice President Biden, your response to that?
And then I do have some questions for both of you.
Well, I tell you what, I hope he doesn't look at me because what's happening here is you know who I am.
You know who he is.
You know his character.
You know my character.
You know our reputations for honor and telling the truth.
I am anxious to have this race.
I am anxious to see this take place.
The character of the country is on the ballot.
Our character is on the ballot.
Look at us closely.
Let me ask some follow-up questions.
Excuse me.
Oh my gosh.
I'm a character.
China, other countries, Iraq.
People say it.
I'm a character.
People say it.
This is true.
He's a character.
Vote for the character.
So don't give me the stuff about how you're this innocent baby.
Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician.
Hey, President Trump, I want to stay on the issue of race.
Some people are calling you that.
Yeah, you know what?
I'm not calling you that.
No, you are.
But what about?
I'm calling.
Yeah, you know what?
Everyone in this room.
Fact check.
False.
Everyone in this room calls you a corrupt politician.
Not everyone who serves in office is a corrupt politician.
Only those who serve 48 years and have never held private gainful employment are corrupt politicians.
Go screw yourself, Joe.
Former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage.
Nobody believes it except his and his good friend, Rudy Giuliani.
You mean the laptop is still another Russia, Russia, Russia hoax?
That's exactly what, this is where he's going.
The laptop is Russia, Russia, Russia?
Gentlemen, I want to stay on the issue of race.
You have to be kidding.
Here we go again with Russia.
We're going to continue on the issue of race.
Mr. President, you've described the Black Lives Matter.
She came in in record time to rescue Joe Biden because she realized he might talk himself into a legal corner.
I have never seen that before.
She realized he was about to talk himself into a legal corner because he's retarded.
And so she decided she was going to step in and save him.
She shot the noose, like the good, the bad and the ugly.
She shot it off for him.
The first time I ever heard of Black Lives Matter, They were chanting, pigs in a blanket, talking about police.
Pigs, pigs, talking about our police.
Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.
I said, that's a horrible thing.
And they were marching down the street.
And that was my first glimpse of Black Lives Matter.
I thought it was a terrible thing.
As far as my relationships with all people, I think I have great relationships with all people.
I am the least racist person in this room.
Well, what do you say to Americans who are offended by that rhetoric?
I don't know what to say.
I got criminal justice reform done and prison reform.
I took care of black colleges and universities.
I don't know what to say.
They can say anything.
I mean, they can say anything.
It's a very, it makes me sad because I am, I am the least Racist person?
I can't even see the audience because it's so dark, but I don't care who's in the audience.
I'm the least racist person in this room.
Okay, Vice President Biden, let me ask you very quickly, and then I have a follow-up question for you.
Abraham Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history.
Wow.
He pours fuel on every single racist fire.
Every single one.
He started off his campaign coming down the escalator saying he's going to get rid of those Mexican rapists.
Calling someone a racist with no proof.
You're the one who said racial jungle.
You're the one who had a crime bill.
You're the one who supported segregationists.
You're the one who was only one hopscotch seat away from Robert Byrd who was recruiting for the Klan.
You're the one, and I don't even think you're racist, Joe.
But if I had to have a scale, you would weigh more than the duck.
That's bad.
You said you're Abraham Lincoln.
No, no.
I said not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community.
I didn't say I'm Abraham Lincoln.
I said not since Abraham Lincoln has anybody done what I've done for the black community.
See, when Joe gets caught, he laughs.
Now, you have done nothing other than the crime bill which put Oh God.
Tens of thousands of black men mostly in jail.
All right, let me let me let me remember it because if you look at what's happening with
the voting right now, you know, we have a lot of them about very, very badly.
Just take a look at what's happening out there.
Vice President Biden, let me give you a chance to respond within this context.
Crime bills that you supported in the 80s and 90s contributed to the incarceration of tens of thousands of young black men who had small amounts of drugs in their possession.
They are sons, they are brothers, they're fathers, they're uncles, whose families are still to this day, some of them suffering the consequences.
So speak to those families.
Why should they vote for you?
One of the things is that in the 80s we passed 100%, all 100 senators voted for it, a bill on drugs and how to deal with drugs.
It was a mistake.
I've been trying to change the Senate, particularly the portion on cocaine.
Hunter Biden wasn't in on the vote, but if he'd write in, yes please.
That was an order.
to jail for a pure drug offense. They should be going into treatment across the board.
That's what we should be spending money. That's why I set up drug courts, which were never
funded by Republican friends. They should not be going to jail for a drug or an alcohol
problem. They should be going into treatment.
That's what we've been trying to do.
That's what I'm going to get done.
Because I think the American people have now seen that, in fact, it was a mistake to pass those laws relating to the drug.
But they were not in the crime bill.
But why didn't he get it done?
See, it's all talk, no action with these politicians.
Why didn't he get it done?
That's what I'm going to do when I become president.
He mentioned the 80s, but in 1994, Biden drafted the crime bill that put more black men in prison than any bill I can think of.
Why didn't you get it done?
You had eight years to get it done.
Now you're saying you're gonna get it done because you're all talking no action, Jim.
We got a lot of it done.
We released 38,000.
We got 38,000 prisoners left.
You got nothing done.
38,000 prisoners were released from federal prison.
There were over a thousand people who were given clemency.
In fact, we're the ones who put in the legislation saying we could look at pattern and practice of police departments and what they were doing, how they were conducting themselves.
I could go on, but we began the process.
We began the process.
We lost an election.
That's why I'm running to win back that election and change his terrible policy.
I just ask one question.
Why didn't you do it in the eight years, a short time ago?
Why didn't you do it?
You just said, I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do this.
You put tens of thousands of mostly black young men in prison.
Now you're saying you're going to undo that.
Why didn't you get it done?
You had eight years with Obama.
Yeah.
You know why, Joe?
Because you're all talk.
No, let him answer.
All right, Vice President Biden, and then we're going to move on to the next section.
Ooh, Joe Biden didn't answer.
Republican Congress.
That hurt me.
Oh god, is it almost over?
Hold on a second.
That hurt me Like I did with criminal justice reform I had to talk
Democrats The ideas or bills had been proposed or pushed forward by
Joe Biden and you could say that the Congress said no That didn't happen
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Speaking of prison, Joe Biden just dropped, put your soap on a string Joe!
Yeah dude!
I do love the environment, but what I want is the cleanest crystal clear water, the cleanest air.
We have the best lowest number in carbon emissions, which is a big standard that I notice Obama goes with all the time.
Not Joe.
I haven't heard Joe use the term because I'm not sure he knows what it represents or means.
Look at China.
How filthy it is.
Look at Russia.
Look at India.
numbers that we've had in 35 years under this administration. We are working so
well with industry. I need a refill. It can be vino or whatever. Look at China. How filthy it is.
Look at Russia. Look at India. It's filthy. The air is filthy. The Paris
Accord, I took us out because we were gonna have to spend trillions of dollars
and we were treated very unfairly. When they put us in there, they did us a great
disservice. They were gonna take away our businesses. I will not sacrifice tens of
millions of jobs, thousands and thousands of companies because of the Paris Accord.
It was so unfair.
China doesn't kick in until 2030.
Russia goes back to a low standard and we kicked in right away.
It would have been it would have been it would have destroyed our businesses.
So you ready?
We have done an incredible job environmentally.
We have the cleanest air, the cleanest water, and the best carbon emission standards that we've seen in many, many years.
Vice President, we haven't destroyed our industries.
Vice President Biden, two minutes to you uninterrupted.
Climate change, climate warming, global warming is an existential threat to humanity.
We have a moral obligation to deal with it.
And we're told by all the leading scientists in the world, we don't have much time.
We're going to pass the point of no return within the next 8 to 10 years.
Former years of this man eliminating all the other populations Kostya Cortez said it's like 12 years, we won't have a world.
Right, right.
And then everyone said, she really believes that, she said, I was obviously joking, he just said 8 to 10 years.
He shortened the time frame for AOC!
He's fucking crazier than AOC!
We already do!
late cheese people worried about jobs to support my climate plan because what it
does it will create millions of new good-paying job I said we're gonna
invest in for example five hundred thousand fifty thousand fifty thousand
charging station a different so that we can own the electric car market of the
future the meantime China is doing a position where we're going to take four
million existing buildings. And they moved to Texas from California!
two million existing homes and retrofit them so they don't leak as much energy, saving
hundreds of millions of barrels of oil in the process and creating significant number
of jobs.
And by the way, the whole idea of what this is all going to do, it's going to create millions
of jobs and it's going to clean the environment.
Our health and our jobs are at stake.
That's what's happening.
And right now, by the way, Wall Street firms indicated that my plan will in fact create 18.6 million jobs, 7 million more than his.
This is from Wall Street.
And I'll create $1 trillion more in economic growth than his proposal does.
Not on climate, just on the economy.
President Trump came out and said very strongly $6,500 will be taken away from families under his plan.
That his plan is an economic disaster.
If you look at what he wants to do, if you look at his plan, you know who developed it?
AOC plus three.
They know nothing about the climate.
I mean, she's got a good line of stuff, but she knows nothing about the climate.
And they're all hopping through hoops for AOC Plus 3.
He's doing good!
Yeah.
Yeah.
Their real plan, of course, is $100 trillion.
Cut off those bitches' tails with a carving knife.
This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen.
And this wasn't done by smart people.
This wasn't done by anybody.
I wasn't suggesting that you cut off their tails.
They want to take buildings down because they want to make bigger windows into smaller windows.
As far as they're concerned, if you had no window, it would be a lovely thing.
This is the craziest plan that anybody has ever seen.
And this wasn't done by smart people.
This wasn't done by anybody.
Frankly, I don't even know how it could be good.
They want to spend $100 trillion.
That's the real number.
He's trying to say it was six.
It's a hundred trillion dollars.
They want to knock down buildings and build new buildings with little, tiny, small... Joe Biden's desire of disbelief was almost heart-rending.
Let me have the Vice President's response and we're running out of time and we have a lot more questions to get to.
So let's hear from the Vice President.
I have a number more questions.
I don't know where he comes from.
I don't know where he comes up with these numbers.
A hundred trillion dollars.
Let's go with Scranton.
Answer the question.
This plan was, this is a plan endorsed by every major, every major environmental group and every labor group.
Labor.
Because they know the future lies.
Can we fact check that?
That's not true.
Every single labor group.
And by the way, The fastest growing industry in America is the electric, excuse me, solar energy and wind.
He thinks wind causes cancer.
No, it's not!
Windmills.
It's the fastest growing jobs and they pay good prevailing wages.
Wrong!
25, 50 bucks an hour.
Wrong!
By the way, worse for the environment.
Take a look at Germany versus France.
Also when you're talking about solar, How do you mine those materials, Joe?
How do you store the energy?
We don't have the batteries to store a city's infrastructure as far as the energy infrastructure for a city.
Individuals can do it.
Everything you just said is a lie.
There you go.
Union's not endorsing the Green New Deal?
That's a lie!
Fact check!
Kristen Welker.
Both Germany and China and the fumes coming up, if you're a believer in carbon emission,
the fumes coming up to make these massive windmills is more than anything that we're
talking about with natural gas, which is very clean.
One other thing.
Find me a scientist who says that.
I love solar, but solar doesn't quite have it yet.
It's not powerful yet to really run our big, beautiful factories that we need to compete with the world.
So it's all a pipe dream.
Incorrect.
You know what we'll do?
We're going to have the greatest economy in the world, but if you want to kill the economy, get rid of your oil industry.
And what about fracking?
Alright, let me, let me have, let me allow Vice President Biden to respond.
I never said I oppose fracking.
Never?
You said it on tape.
I didn't show the tape.
Put it on your website.
We'll bring the clip after this stream.
Let's remember, let's come back to it.
He said he was going to ban fracking.
That's a lie!
Kristen Welker, unless you're retarded, sweetheart, you know that's a lie.
If you're following up with Donald Trump on 2, 3, 4 questions in, as far as we led with which pharmaceutical companies specifically are going to give us a vaccine before the election, then you should ask him, hey, wait a second, Joe.
You did say you would ban fracking.
We will show you the clip in our post-game wrap-up after this.
It's clear as day.
He basically says, I'll ban fracking.
I have one more question in this pod.
He said it.
I will show that to you tomorrow.
I am against fracking until he got to Pennsylvania.
Then he said, but you know what, Pennsylvania, he'll be against it very soon because his party is totally Fracking on federal land, I said.
No fracking and no oil on federal land.
And by the way, it's not fracking on federal land.
It's fracking that requires any kind of a trajectory, any kind of a pipe to even broach federal land at any point, which, by the way, is necessary for any fracking to work, which is what makes it so clean, energy efficient, and better than bringing in oil on tankers from Saudi Arabia, you dumb shit!
The families that we're talking about are employed heavily, and they are making a lot of money, more money than they've ever made.
If you look at the kind of numbers that we produce for Hispanic, or Black, or Asian, it's nine times greater the percentage gain than it was under, in three years, than it was under eight years of the two of them, to put it nicely.
Nine times more.
Somebody lives, I have not heard the numbers or the statistics, but they're making a tremendous amount of money.
Economically, we saved it.
And I saved it a number of months ago when oil was crashing because of the pandemic.
We saved it.
We got, say what you want about relationship, we got Saudi Arabia, Mexico and Russia to cut back way back, we saved our oil industry and now it's very vibrant again.
And everybody has very inexpensive gasoline, remember that.
He's from everywhere!
plants that in fact pollute chemical plants and oil plants and refineries that pollute.
I used to live near that when I was growing up in Claymont, Delaware.
And all refineries in the Delaware River than there is any place including in Houston at the time.
When my mom get in the car and when when our first frost when I drive me to school,
turning which way but they've been oil slick in the window.
That's why so many people in my state were dying and getting cancer.
The fact is those front line communities are still men.
Joe, that was 70 years ago!
Maybe something more recent.
The pollutants coming out of those fence line communities.
Okay, I have one final question.
Would it close down the oil industry?
It falls?
Would you close down the oil industry?
I would transition from the oil industry, yes.
Oh, that's a big statement.
It is a big statement.
That's a big statement.
Because I would stop- Why would you do that?
Why would you do that?
Significantly.
Here's the deal.
That's a big statement.
Well, if you let me finish the statement, because it has to be replaced by renewable energy over time.
Over time.
And I'd stop giving to the oil industry, I'd stop giving them federal subsidies.
He won't give federal subsidies to the gas, excuse me, to the... What a big man you are.
Next time bring a pack of gum, you can show me how to chew it.
We actually do go to solar and wind.
That's maybe the biggest statement in terms of business.
That's the biggest statement.
Because basically what he's saying is he is going to destroy The oil industry.
Will you remember that, Texas?
Will you remember that, Pennsylvania?
Vice President Biden.
Oh!
Boom! Boom!
Triton don't run a train on Biden like it's the Warriors and they're the Baseball Furies!
Zero emissions.
The first place to do that by the year 2035 is in energy production.
By 2050, totally.
How do you have leverage when you join in with every other country?
You couldn't even get people to pay 0.5% in NATO for 8 years!
join Paris Accord and make China abide by what they agreed to.
How do you have leverage when you join in with every other country?
You couldn't even get people to pay 0.5% in NATO for 8 years!
0.5% in NATO!
We have to make a country totally successful as it was prior to the plague coming in from China.
Now we're doing record numbers 11.4 million jobs in a short period of time, etc.
But I will tell you, go back.
Before the plague came in, just before, I was getting calls from people that were not normally people that would call me.
They wanted to get together.
We had the best black unemployment numbers in the history of our country.
Hispanic, women, Asian.
People with diplomas with no diplomas, MIT graduates number one in the class, everybody had the best numbers.
And you know what?
The other side wanted to get together.
They wanted to unify.
Success is going to bring us together.
We are on the road to success.
I'm cutting taxes and he wants to raise everybody's taxes and he wants to put new regulations on everything.
He will kill it.
If he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen.
Your 401ks will go to hell, and it'll be a very, very sad day for this country.
All right.
Vice President Biden, same question to you.
What will you say during your inaugural address to Americans who did not vote for you?
I will say I'm an American president.
I represent all of you, whether you voted for me or against me.
And I'm going to make sure that you're represented.
I'm going to give you hope.
We're going to move.
We're going to choose science over fiction.
We're going to choose hope over fear.
We're going to choose to move forward because we have enormous opportunities, enormous opportunities to make things better.
We can grow this economy.
We can deal with the systemic racism.
At the same time, we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy, creating millions of new jobs.
And that's the fact.
That's what we're going to do.
He's two seconds home.
His closing speech is about energy because it's the last question.
He can't think of anything that happened before that.
This isn't a general closing statement.
It's about the last question.
Making sure that everyone has an even chance.
And I'm going to make sure you get that.
You haven't been getting it the last four years.
All right. I want to thank you both for a very robust hour and a half. A fantastic debate.
Really appreciate it. President Trump, former Vice President Joe Biden. Thank you to Belmont
University for hosting us tonight. And most importantly, thank you to those watching tonight.
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I want to, do we have the fracking clip from Joe Biden?
Can you guys let me, do we have that?
Yes.
Before we do anything else, I want to show you this because this is something where he just lied and he was not fact-checked at all.
And we'll give you our closing thoughts.
Let's bring up the Joe, did Joe Biden ever say, imply, or insinuate that he would ban fracking?
No more, no new fracking.
We are getting rid of fossil fuels.
What about, say, stopping fracking?
Would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking, in a Biden administration?
No, we would work it out.
We would make sure it's eliminated.
I guarantee, I guarantee we're going to end fossil fuel and I am not going to clock it.
No ability for the oil industry to continue to drill.
Period.
Ends.
Number one.
Three consecutive American presidents have enjoyed stints of explosive economic growth due to a boom in oil and natural gas production.
As president, would you be willing to sacrifice some of that growth, even knowing potentially that it could displace thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of blue-collar workers in the interest of transitioning to that greener economy?
The answer is yes.
The answer is yes.
No more, no new fracking.
That's looping up.
A couple of things to note.
And this bothers me both about the right and the left.
Unless something is blatant, then people don't have something to bitch about.
This, to me, was far worse than Chris Wallace.
Far worse than Chris Wallace because of how subversive it was.
Because of the 1, 2, 3, 4 specific follow-ups on Donald Trump and none on Joe Biden.
You have to believe one of two things.
I keep wanting to say Savannah.
You have to believe that Kristen Welker either doesn't know about any of those quotes.
What was that?
At least half a dozen?
from Joe Biden either doesn't know in which case she's totally unqualified to be a journalist
Yeah.
moderating the debates or she's lying.
There is no in between.
There is no in between.
You cannot justifiably say, well, I need to fact check President Donald Trump.
When Donald Trump says we have vaccines coming down the pipeline, we're making a lot of progress,
that's not something that you need to necessarily fact check.
That's providing people hope.
And then you go, when?
Before election?
When?
Can you name the companies?
Will you give us specifics?
Whereas Joe Biden says, I've never said that.
I've never said I'll ban fracking.
That's a specific, and it's one that if you are qualified to do your job, you hang him on.
This was worse because, just like I say, Governor Whitmer is far worse than AOC, far worse than, what's the name of the Somalian pirate, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib.
Same kind of ideology.
This is my house now.
Your Congress belongs to me.
She's a different coat of paint, Governor Whitmer, with the same policies.
That's what we have with Kristen Welker.
She's far worse than Chris Wallace.
She didn't follow up at all on Joe Biden.
Do you honestly believe that she doesn't understand that Joe Biden is lying about fracking?
Something else that I think is pretty important.
Donald Trump, in closing, made a great statement, and I don't think he realized Just how wide-reaching it was, where he talked about, okay, minorities are doing better than ever before.
We're actually reducing carbon emissions.
We're actually improving green energy.
All of which is true, by the way.
Let me fact-check this for you.
Yes, black unemployment is at record low.
Yes, more people are driving electric cars and moving to green energy than ever before.
Yes, we have reduced our carbon emissions more than we ever have in the United States.
Yes, gas is also cheaper at the same time because we've made our own natural resources, gas, oil, more accessible rather than being dependent on foreign sources, which by the way is also why carbon emissions are overall lower.
All of those things are true, but here's what's important.
Donald Trump managed to accomplish all of those things, and by that I mean the conservative ideology, without going out and saying, hey, we're going to subsidize Solyndra.
Without going out and saying, hey, we're going to give you more food stamps, which Joe Biden basically said tonight with black people.
Without going out and saying, hey, we're going to give you a free citizenship.
By the way, if you want to talk about value-added, a United States citizenship is the most valuable piece of paper you can have the world over.
Without any of those, a rising tide.
Lifts all ships.
And what has Donald Trump done?
All of those things that he said were true.
But if you look at specific policies, did he say we're going to punish the oil and gas industry?
No, he didn't.
Did he say we're going to punish white people so that black people have more employment?
No, he didn't.
Did he say we're going to punish working class Americans so that we can create more passive citizenship?
No, he didn't.
What he did was stepped out of the way, reduced regulation, reduced taxes, and that benefited everybody because business owners were able to step in and do their job and employ more Americans and create the greatest economy that we've ever known.
And I'll tell you this, I'll tell you what, if Joe Biden becomes president, there are a lot of companies out there who will have to lay people off.
We won't.
I'm just going to take a pay cut myself.
Just so you know, we might not grow as much.
We might not be able to do as many shows because we may not have as much money for production.
But I'm not going to be laying anybody off.
But I can tell you that there will be a direct impact on this company.
Right now, louder with Crowder, if Joe Biden becomes president and his economic policy becomes law, take two salaries.
Audio Wade, you can show Audio Wade.
Okay?
Audio Wade.
Or it could be Tocanawan.
Or it could be quarter black Garrett.
Take two full salaries at minimum is what we will see in an increase in taxes.
And I'm making you a promise that we're not going to lay people off because of that.
But we may have to scale back on production.
There is a direct impact from economic policy and the same can be said for energy.
The same can be said for black people.
How do you think Elon Musk went to Texas?
Does Texas have more pro-green subsidies than California?
No!
Texas just has a non-crippling status economy when compared to California.
So Elon Musk, the man who thinks that this world could be Mad Max in a very short period of time, and a man who by every box that you check should be a liberal, left California, the economy that banned how many SUVs car lots could have, to encourage the green car, electric car industry.
He's leaving them for the...
Texas oil man state.
That should tell you what you need to know.
Create an economy that benefits everybody and a rising tide lifts all ships.
And Donald Trump, oh my gosh, what a positive message.
A message of hope.
A message of what America is and what America can be.
And he has the stats to back it up.
Joe Biden doesn't want to fall back on his record.
His record is racial jungle and the 94 crime bill and forgetting where he is when he drinks a bucket of salt water someone turns on the microwave.
So he has to make a bunch of empty promises that Kristen Walker will never fact check him on.
This was a very stark contrast.
I think it was a surprising win for Donald Trump.
And I said going in that it may be a silver lining.
The fact that they have two minutes.
When you look at Joe Biden.
Joe Biden was not able to handle two minutes by himself.
He does not do well with alone time.
He does not do well without a backup band.
And as much as Kristen Walker was trying to be the backup band, it didn't work.
Final thing I will say is, there was a recent fight in the UFC actually, one of the only organizations that has seen actually a record increase in viewership because they allow people to express their own political views and they don't put a Black Lives Matter in the middle of their octagon.
There was a recent fight.
Brian Ortega fought in the UFC.
He fought against a guy named Korean Zombie.
Now, for those who don't watch fighting, just listen, and I'll make sure that this makes sense to you.
Brian Ortega had been out of fighting for, I believe it was a year and a half or two years.
His last fight, he lost a title fight.
And he lost pretty badly, and people said, well, you know what, that may be the end for him.
After that fight, Brian Ortega switched camps.
He fired a lot of his people.
The only person that he kept was Henry Gracie, a good friend of the show, part of the Gracie family.
And the question was, It's been a long layoff.
Is there a ring rust?
How will Brian Ortega come back?
Brian Ortega came back, watched the fight from last weekend, and it was possibly the most masterful performance we've ever seen in the 145 division in the UFC because he listened to the feedback, he listened to the criticism, he recalibrated, and he came back as a whole new fighter.
Donald Trump tonight was the Brian Ortega of politics.
I definitely think you're right.
I think this was a different candidate this time for getting reelected.
And he did a great job.
with Hillary Clinton and I only wish that we would have a third but Joe Biden has to get back to his
basement. What do you think there, macho man Randy? I definitely think you're right. I think
this was a different candidate this time for you know getting re-elected and he did a great job.
He held back when he needed to. He fought really hard and he gave Joe Biden enough rope to hang
himself. You and I were talking about whether he would actually make that correction between the
debates. We're like I hope somebody's in his ear. I hope somebody is going to make him listen and
thank God that he did. The messages, there was a stark contrast right? It was dark winter for
Joe Biden. That's what he said. We're heading into a dark winter. Donald Trump said things are getting
better. The economy is getting better. Jobs are getting better. It was a positive message for the
country and Joe Biden said things are horrible. You need me to come in and save you and Donald
OK, what's your policy to save?
Well, we're going to get rid of your tax plan.
OK, we're going to keep the economy closed.
Oh, really?
So you want to take tax dollars that we don't have to give to people that would do better if the economy was simply open?
You weren't here.
He critiqued Donald Trump on tax dollars when Donald Trump was talking about how it's paid for by China.
Well no, I saw that.
I was here for that.
He said China paid for it.
It's totally inconsistent.
He doesn't have a plan.
He keeps coming out and saying we need to give them money, we need to give them money.
No you don't!
Listen, open the economy, you idiot!
You don't need to give them any more money.
You need to open the economy and let the American people do what we do best, and that is go out and be entrepreneurs and innovate and create jobs.
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But I will say this, you know, you've heard me say this before.
What was the message tonight?
Listen, if Republicans are the party of the rich, meaning, and I don't know what that means anymore because the rich, meaning big tech, big Hollywood, big Wall Street, big banks, they all endorse Joe Biden, but Republicans certainly are the party of business owners.
Republicans are certainly the party of people with more money in their pockets or who want more money in their pockets.
If Republicans are the party of the business-minded, if Republicans are the party of the upper middle class, which statistically they vote overwhelmingly, that's a big myth too.
The ultra-wealthy, the Bill Gates, the Mark Zuckerbergs of the world, they don't vote Republican.
But the small business owners, the people who maybe do, Do make $400,000 a year and aren't just holding public office, but have worked their way up and they manage small businesses and maybe they're making half a million, maybe they're making a million.
You shouldn't vilify them.
You shouldn't hate them.
Those people, the people who employ most of you watching, they vote Republican.
So, if the Republican Party, if Donald Trump is the party of the upper middle class wealthy, their incentive to have a voting base is to keep you wealthy.
If Democrats are the party of the uber rich or the poor or blacks on welfare, as Joe Biden I'll make sure that more of them are on welfare.
Guess what?
It's in their best interest to keep you on welfare.
If the Republican Party, what you heard tonight was a message of independence.
Look, we have to get the country back open.
We have to get back to normal.
Donald Trump was saying we have to get people back to their work.
We have to get people back to running their businesses.
We have to get teachers back to teaching.
We have to get the economy self-sustaining once again.
If that's his message, The only way Donald Trump wins, the only way Donald Trump has a W next to his name in that column at the end of his presidency, hopefully eight years, is guess what?
If Americans are self-sustaining, Joe Biden, it was like Game of Thrones, only the first half.
Winter is coming, it's gonna be a dark winter.
Show us where you mess up the White Walkers!
Which, by the way, he looks strikingly like!
The icy blue eyes and the hair, and not to mention the demonic soul!
The Democrat Party is a party of, you can't do it, it's a dark winter, and we're going to continue welfare.
Guess what?
It is in their best interest to make it a dark winter.
It is in their best interest to make sure that you need to stay on welfare.
It is as clear as humanly possible.
And if people are listening to what they heard tonight, oh my god, I'm so grateful that actually people often say this about the polls.
Well, you know what?
Actually, the swing state polls are are closer to within the margin of error than at this point
with Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump.
I'm glad to hear that, but I expect after tonight that we're going to see those tighten
up quite a bit because people from Scranton are going, well they can't even say, I know
that asshole because they don't.
They've never seen him there.
He left when he was in a baby carriage.
So I think this was overall a pretty good debate.
I think it moved the needle.
And it'll be interesting to see how this changes the campaigning moving forward.
And I think that this was the most shameful moderating that we've seen.
I think this was worse than Savannah Guthrie.
I think it was worse than Chris Wallace.
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