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Who writes these speeches?
It must be the same person who cooked your face in a waffle iron.
Al Pacino piano.
It's only one note.
I love this episode.
It's how you make lemonade from sh**.
All depictions of Kim family must be treated with the same reverence as the men themselves, which is why we've made this recent addition to our company restaurant.
I like to pee on the lips and not actually into the mouth.
Well, you and R. Kelly.
No.
Griff is actually the gentleman I spoke about in the clothes one time at the gym.
The food for thought guy.
I want to see your thoughts so you can see that this is what's airing right now on television.
Let's also not forget someone in the trans community.
I absolutely would cover the right to have an abortion.
People are really discussing this.
You just, that wasn't an actual debate.
That wasn't the presidential debate.
That doesn't trick TV or something.
No.
The half-Asian and the wine guy?
Well, we, uh, we looked everywhere, sir.
I mean, ma'am.
I mean, uh, Xeer.
Never mind.
It doesn't matter.
Have you read our new community guidelines yet?
Yes, sir, but they're, uh, they're a little confusing, uh, or contradictory.
We've already broken most of them.
Audio wave.
You desecrated a Dan Fogelberg song, but congratulations, you're actually the least offensive of the bunch.
Quarter Black Garrett.
Hello.
You've taken part in some of the most racist sketches ever uploaded to this platform.
Fat, drunken Quarter Black is no way to go through life, son.
And Mr. Crouch.
The reason we had to rewrite our community guidelines in the first place.
There is literally not a single marginalized group that you haven't insulted.
We've even had to create new groups just because of you.
A fine example you've set.
Now make sure you tell the half-Asian And then the wine guy, exactly what I'm about to tell you.
What was that, sir?
You're out.
Finished.
At YouTube.
Deplatformed.
I want you off this channel Monday morning.
And I'm sure you'll be happy to know I've contacted Facebook and Twitter as well.
Also LinkedIn, TikTok, Slack, Spotify.
You won't be able to so much as open a MySpace account.
Well... Well... Out with it!
Yes!
♪♪♪ ♪♪♪
♪♪♪ What a wonderful start to the show.
Hey, by the way, that reminds me, our guest today, we'll be talking about Pete Buttigieg, whether he's a moderate candidate or not is the question of the day.
Have you heard him referred to as a moderate candidate, Pete Buttigieg of Indiana?
And do you think that there have been any truly moderate Democrats since 2000, I don't know, take your pick.
And I realize I just meant to say any moderate, but I said, and it sounded like I said sea anemones.
Really?
Which I don't know if that's an actual thing.
Reminds me, my lawyer, as you see, dies horribly.
But, today we have, he protected Mike Tyson.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Harvey Weinstein.
Recently, Donald Trump.
America's favorite lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, is here.
But first, oh wait, hold on a second, before we get to that, half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman, how are you?
I'm wonderful, glad to be here.
Quarter Black Garrett, how are you, sir?
I'm great.
You need a hood pass?
I don't want it.
I don't want to see it.
And Audio Wade, G. Morgan Jr., what's your wine of the day?
Wine of the day is Born of Fire Cabernet.
Oh, okay.
Well, next time you can serve it to our audience members.
Do you realize that when you said let's serve it to our audience members and he refused?
I did.
I refused service.
He seems like a nice guy.
But behind the scenes, he's a massive dick.
I don't serve white people, Stephen.
Sorry.
Before we move on, we have to get to this!
It's pretty high-pitched.
Get your hands off me!
Get your hands off me!
For those listening on audio, I'm sorry.
That was the anti-trump protester.
But I knew it looked familiar.
And that's Conor McGregor's walkout music.
Feels like the voice is going to be really hurting.
I just, you can't even say in 2020, like, hey, don't, don't just scream out haphazardly.
It's not how adults act.
Like a toddler.
You're an adult.
That's awesome.
I love emotional.
You're not dropping your, your Irish folk song influence single.
Okay.
We'll also be talking about Pete Buttigieg quite a bit today, and Michael Bloomberg, but leading the news, Bernie Sanders, of course, was the winner of the New Hampshire primary, scored a slim victory over former mayor Pete Buttigieg, and Sanders now turns his attention to South Carolina.
That's the big story, of course, if you've been following it, where he's going to have to shift gears.
People are talking about this.
We don't talk about political strategy whole out in the show, but he's going to need to
appeal and he's been trying to more traditionally religious voters.
you What you doing?
I'm fasting, Bernie.
You know, if you were to endorse me for leader of the free world, everyone could be fasting all the time.
It's true.
Believe me, I know.
Jesus, I'd like you to think about joining me.
We can spread matching uniforms and crippling taxes across the world.
You mean stealing?
Democratic.
Stealing.
So stealing.
No, no.
Democratic socialism!
I'm okay.
I'm gonna go back to fasting.
What if I were to give you free healthcare?
Free healthcare?
Really?
Yes!
Except you'd have to pay for it.
I'm not interested in any way, shape, or form.
Perhaps I could interest you in an assortment of dreidel!
Look, I've had enough.
I don't want any of your stuff.
You're quite the persnickety Jew, I see!
Do you like free speech?
Very much so.
It's great.
We're fresh out!
But we do have some of these!
I can do this all day!
I'm okay.
Wait!
Wait!
Endless possibilities!
Can't out-raise you through this song, doodah!
Doodah!
What about free healthcare?
I'm gonna... Oh!
Oh!
And Jesus!
Yeah, but... One more thing!
If you're truly God's son, and I'm not saying you are not, then jump down from this mountain!
Surely the angels will owe my living!
Aaaaaaaaaaaah!
Oh! Oh, shit! Oh! Oh!
The Son of Man rigging it against Bernie.
That's true.
Everybody's against him.
The Lamb of God clearly has a klobuchar bent.
That ending really got me.
Also, by the way, some sad news to probably apologize for this program.
Alan Dershowitz after this, America's favorite lawyer.
Sad news, actually.
An endangered wolf that walked 8,700 miles to find a mate.
And love has died.
This comes from The Guardian.
Scientists had been tracking the wolf since she left Oregon for California in 2018, cross-country to find a mate.
They named her OR54, which in Cherokee translates to Traveling Whore Wolf.
Oh, well.
It's starting to make sense now.
She knows what she wants.
Did she get lost on the way?
8,700 miles from Oregon to California?
No, she's just a filthy wolf slut.
So, in international news, you know what?
Horror wolf, traveling horror wolf, they're not going to respect you until you respect yourself.
You just have to be yourself.
It's enough.
It's enough.
In international news, by the way, the Swiss, they don't make the news a whole lot, but they voted to penalize public homophobia now.
That's going to be a new law.
It wasn't before.
Now they are protected, which is actually great news for Switzerland's number one favorite hot cocoa brand, Swiss Mr. F***er.
So that is...
It's delicious.
It's an offshoot brand.
Is that alkali processed cocoa?
I don't touch it unless it is.
I don't think it is.
I'm a cacao fan, really.
Oh, good lord.
And you know what the difference is?
Nothing.
It means I'm an asshole.
I just say cacao because I want to have the conversation.
What do you mean, cocoa?
I say, no, no, no, cacao.
Then I explain to you the different processing.
It just means you should walk along your merry way and avoid me at a party.
Yes.
Agreed.
I do that.
I do that anyway.
I also pay too much for groceries.
So, a man was, uh, in other news, he was arrested for trying to pay a prostitute.
With a hamburger.
From Newsweek.
It's been a good hamburger.
It may seem out of the ordinary to some, trying to pay for sex with a hamburger, but it's actually surprisingly and increasingly common.
It happens quite a bit.
Oh my gosh, yes.
Why McDonald's hamburgers?
Don't even get me started on the Burger King Kids Club.
It's not a club you want to be a part of.
No, it is not.
For people who listen to audio going, what is this?
It makes no sense.
Also, for those listening to audio, do you remember Grimace?
It's kind of central.
It interests you.
For those listening on audio, you're listening to a TV show.
Yes, effectively.
But we still want you there.
We do, we love you.
And remember, the key takeaway here is that Gerald is an ungenerous ****.
That's true.
That's it.
Gerald needs some Grimace Love.
Yes, he does.
What do you use?
Do you pay with McDouble's?
No, I pay with wine.
You pay with wine?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Just about everything.
Good, yeah.
I just boxed him into a corner because I know his wife is watching.
I didn't say I paid for sex with Wyatt.
No, no, no, no.
Wait, wait, wait.
Just companionship.
Yeah.
Gerald's like, I just need you to come over here and hold me.
Nuzzle me, you large... Muzzle me?
What?
Nuzzle.
Nuzzle.
Nuzzle?
I don't even need to host this.
I'm just going to let you two go.
I know.
Thank you.
Hey, by the way, another story proving once again that internet is not real life.
Andrew Yang dropped out of the presidential race.
Oh, cousin.
Man, you were doing so good, your parents were almost proud.
I just thought, actually, when I saw the story, I thought it was a new Hallmark film with Dean Cain.
It could be.
It absolutely could be.
Andrew Yang told supporters, I'm not someone who wants to take people's time and dedication if I don't think we have a chance to win.
So everyone here, listen, obviously we look at these people as worthy competitors.
Everyone here wishes Mr. Yang well in his future endeavors, of course, no ill will.
But for Andrew and the Yang gang, it's time to close.
Mr. Yang, your signature policy is to give every adult in the United States $1,000 a month, no questions asked.
That's right.
I think that's like $3.2 trillion a year.
That's right. I think that's like 3.2 trillion dollars a year. How would you do that? Sorry?
Time to close.
Endings and beginnings are ending and beginning now.
Time to close.
It's time to go to places where you go to.
You look like you've been f***ing shaved!
Pizza guy.
I want that pizza.
It's time for things to close.
I know that it's time for things to close.
I know that it's time for things to close.
Things to close.
Who's next?
to the moon.
The door opens and the office is dialed.
The office opening is complete.
Who's next?
Oh no.
Uh...
...
I got stepped in.
No, no, no.
Presidential candidates shouldn't be doing jello shots.
That's Andrew's alt-right lawyer. He's like,
I really need you to stop.
I wish that I loved anything as much as Andrew Yang loved running for president.
Oh man.
He's a good guy.
I'm going to miss him.
He had a good time with it.
Great spirit.
Also, by the way, Tom Steyer dropped out.
Who?
You called me.
You told me.
All right, let's not do that.
I don't want to get in the middle of it.
I just want to say hi, Bernie.
Yeah, good.
OK.
That was Tom Steyer.
It was.
Oh, wow.
We all have different highlight reels, OK?
Actually, Tom Steyer didn't drop out.
That was actually Michael Bennett.
Oh, wow.
I wanted to say hi.
When I tell the story, it's Tom Steyer.
OK.
You know, this runs in a delay, so there's a 90% chance he, too, will drop.
Yeah, that's true.
Hey, is Hickenlooper dead?
Yes.
Former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg is actually now paying, this is a big story, he's paying influencers to make him seem cool.
That's terrible.
Wow, dude.
This comes from the Daily Beast.
For $150, the Bloomberg campaign will pay people to say that Mike Bloomberg is the most electable.
And he's really trying to appeal to young people.
A lot of people don't remember this.
Did you ever see the clip for, um, um, the moves like Bloomberg?
It's like that symptoms episode where it's please welcome counselor black
Yeah, exactly.
Jeez.
That hurt.
The guy, listen, Michael Bloomberg, he really just wants the millennial vote, and it's not been working out well for him.
We understand what he's... Did somebody say Bloomberg?
Oh, no.
I don't think we did.
Oh.
Look.
If you only had one Bloomberg.
Nope, that's enough.
I don't want this to happen on my show.
Get off.
Leave.
That's enough.
Leave $150 on the desk.
Okay.
Jeez.
Gotta get paid.
I don't even care about his politics or the weird face.
It's just, it's lazy writing.
I thought you were going to say heist.
Who only has one Bloomberg?
That's true.
Bloomberg.
You're just trying to write it backwards.
I love it.
I don't.
A Louisiana man, by the way.
We're going to be talking about Pete Buttigieg and Alan Dershowitz.
Soon.
Soon.
Spoiler alert.
Again, do you think Pete Buttigieg is a moderate candidate?
That's how they're trying to sell him right now.
I do not agree.
A Louisiana man, in other news, he's been arrested and charged for burning down three historically black churches.
This comes from NPR.
He pled guilty to all counts and was sentenced to five years in a historically black prison.
It's not going to go well.
Yeah.
Finally, My Little Pony, I think it's more funny to me because it's the theater of the mind.
Yeah, sure.
What's he imagining?
Rape.
So finally, My Little Pony, which I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, except that guy.
My Little Pony and Transformers have announced a crossover now.
Yes!
This comes from comicbook.com because it's a slow news week, so we can put it in the legitimate news source.
Twilight Sparkle teams up with Optimus Prime to overcome malevolent magic and machinery.
The new series will be aptly called Transponies, and they actually have already signed the merchan- We know this.
It's all about merchandising.
We've signed the merchandising deal already, and we have an exclusive first look.
Here, you can use whatever restroom you like.
Thanks, Optimus Prime!
My Little Tree.
Available exclusively at Target.
They put all their eggs in the brick-and-mortar basket.
And it's panning out!
It is, it's working.
I have to admit, I was wrong.
I didn't think they were positioned well to compete with Amazon and Walmart, but I didn't see my little d*** pony coming down the pike.
Innovation wins.
What am I, an oracle?
By the way, our trivia contest winner from last week, who is it there, Quarterback Garrett?
It is Rebecca Patterson.
Oh, and she correctly identified one of my favorite cigars, Brickhouse Standard.
Absolutely.
And I think we're about, you guys ready?
Yeah, I think so.
Did you take too much of a nip of the bourbon?
No.
You seem very tired.
I'm just Asian.
Well, no, but it's the opposite, because you never have the puffs under your eyes.
It's usually very taut.
It's been a long week.
Hey, I've been crying over my cousin Andrew.
It's like when underneath your eyes, it's like when I put up a pup tent.
I called Kim Jong-un.
We were commiserating together.
The under bags of your eyes are like that tent that self-pups in the movie Congo.
You were crying.
Parasite wins.
Alright, I just want to make sure you're ready because it's time for the meat segments!
It's a fast one.
I'm hungry now.
So this is what we'll be talking about today.
You've been hearing this quite a bit, that Pete Buttigieg, I don't care how it's pronounced, that he is the moderate in the Democratic Party.
Everyone's been hearing this, right?
This is the attack.
They're trying to frame it after New Hampshire and after Iowa.
And it's this war between Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.
Sanders, he's leading in total votes.
Buttigieg has slightly more delegates.
Well, let's let someone else tell you so that you believe it.
You need 1,991 delegates to win the nomination.
This is the beginning of a long road to that Democratic convention in Milwaukee.
Take a look at where we are.
Buttigieg actually has a two-delegate lead at 23.
Sanders, 21.
Warren, 8.
Klobuchar, 7.
Sanders 21, Warren 8, Klobuchar 7, Biden down at 6.
So Bernie Sanders very well emerges from New Hampshire after a strong showing in Iowa as
the national frontrunner at this rate?
Look at his face.
But actually, in the way you get the nomination, winning 1,991 delegates, it's Pete Buttigieg who, out of these first two contests, is actually out in front.
Do you see his eye?
It looks like he just saw the Pillsbury Doughboy on his table.
He's like, what?
He looks like Judge Napolitano just f***ed the kid from Christmas Story.
Oh my gosh.
He's like, ah!
Pete Buttigieg is leading!
Put your eye out.
What is up?
He's so enthusiastic.
It's bizarre to me.
Oh my gosh.
We can bleep it.
That's OK.
We'll make it work.
My reputation means not a thing.
Pink has told me I'm perfect the way I am.
So just a quick recap.
Iowa, people have been asking about the Iowa debacle.
I find it incredibly boring.
There was an app made by Democrats.
It was Shadow Inc., which had only been around a couple of months to calculate the results.
The app malfunctioned.
And then we found out that Pete Buttigieg made a victory speech, even though there were zero official results, which, by the way, good for you.
That's a pimp move, Pete Buttigieg.
I actually respect it.
Like, hey, I haven't announced a winner.
I'm just going to say I'm a winner.
Boom.
But that's illegal.
I don't really care.
The coins that told him.
I'm gay.
If they say I can't do it, I'll just say it's a hate crime and that'll be that.
Done and done.
By the way, I don't think he is.
I think it's a reverse beard.
Really?
Yeah, I think he's straight as an arrow.
He's straight and just boring.
And by the way, it also turns out his campaign donated over $40,000 to the App Company.
What?
And the Iowa Democratic Party, they were caught making errors that strangely always seemed to favor Pete Buttigieg over Bernie, so you can look into it.
I understand why people think the deck may be stacked against Bernie.
I'm not willing to confirm that or say that I agree with you, but I understand why people might sort of express that sentiment.
So a lot of Bernie bros think something fishy's going on.
Okay, fine.
The dynamic here now is that it's the socialist, Bernie Sanders, versus this sort of centrist.
That's what they're trying to create with Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders.
The question remains, is Butt Gig actually a moderate?
You've been fed that a whole lot.
No.
Let's get down to brass tacks.
Let's start with immigration.
Immigration, economics, and we'll get into more social issues.
I think half-Asian Bill is uncomfortable that he got killed in the intro.
He's still dead.
I just really can't wrap my mind around that a group that has always championed diversity is going to be choosing between two white males.
Maybe.
But one of them is gay.
Sort of.
That's why I think it'll be Pete Buttigieg, because they have to have a first something.
Kamala Harris, first black woman.
Elizabeth Warren, first woman.
Bernie Sanders, I mean, you know, I don't know.
First President of the United States of America.
Depends.
No idea.
But Pete Buttigieg, they go, look, first president.
First president.
And actually, because we've had a female president.
He's the first president.
I mean, who likes Wiener?
That we know of.
That we know of, you're right.
At that point, you're just saying, like, great, Bernie will be the first necklace president, you know?
The shoulders are always right.
I mean, you can just set the standards so low.
He has no neck.
No, neck-less.
Oh, neck-less!
He has no neck.
I was thinking he went on a cruise and came back with those shitty puka shells and beads in his hair.
No, he just had the little braids.
Thank you, Carnival!
Sanders!
It leaves from Jersey and goes up the St.
Lawrence Canal!
I saw Beluga!
Buttkeg says... I don't think there are belugas in the St.
Lawrence River, by the way.
I'm from Montreal.
I should know this.
That we know of.
That's three Pinocchios.
Canals and rivers are not my... I know a lot about ravines.
You do?
If you have a question about ravines, I'm your man.
When it comes to the canals, I'm out to lunch.
So Buttkeg, when we talk about immigration, I think the first clip we have is on immigration, right?
Yeah, he says that there are 11 million illegals in the United States, and there are some arguments as to that number, exactly.
But let's use the number that he uses.
And he says that there are 11 million illegals in the United States, though, because the economy brought them here.
And then he also clarifies that, or extrapolates, that the mission of ICE is illegal.
The reason we have 11 million undocumented immigrants is because our economy needed 11 million more people than our system was prepared to admit.
So another thing we've got to do when we do that reform is set it up so that in the future you can review every
couple years how many work-based visas we need to keep our economy going.
When our immigration authorities are given an inhumane and in my view in many ways illegal set of policies to carry
out.
Okay let's clarify what ICE's purpose is okay.
It is to protect America from the cross-border crime and illegal immigration that threaten national security and public safety.
So no, Pete, it's not illegal.
They're quite literally enforcing the most basic duty of the United States government in ensuring the safety of our borders from people who could potentially break the law and can't be tracked.
And the reason that ICE is necessary, and I know that there are a lot of people at the Young Turks and Samantha Bee who say it's a criminal enterprise, you know, they want you to think that it's the Corleones, they're saying, There should be no ICE.
It's criminal.
We already have a police force.
But the reason ICE exists is because there are still illegal immigrants.
There used to be in record numbers.
Now it's been decreasing.
Thank you, Donald Trump.
Make America great.
I appreciate it.
I was wrong.
Didn't think you would win.
2020 is going to be a landslide.
Please come on the show.
My point is...
That was a lot.
My point here is there is a reason that they exist, that they are necessary, and it's because the job wasn't being done.
And we'll get to it.
There are some more reasons as to why that is, Pete Buttgig.
Take a guess.
It involves you.
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Ooh.
You know what?
I respect Dave Rubin because he doesn't side with Pete Buttigieg.
It'd be very easy to have a conclave of the gays.
Well, yes.
And they'd be sending out pink smoke.
Is it a coven?
That's awesome.
We'll get back to immigration, but let's move on to health care because a lot of people say, well, he's moderate because he's not a radical.
Here's the thing.
When you're comparing Pete Buttigieg to a radical socialist who spent his honeymoon in the USSR, he spent his honeymoon in the Zangief level.
True story.
And loved it!
I just want to make clear.
Yeah, you might see him as a moderate, but I think it's important to compare him to all past Democrats, including Barack Obama.
Barack Obama couldn't even see Pete Buttigieg to his left.
He's so far to the left of Barack Obama.
So let's keep that in context.
Let's go to health care.
He's seen as a moderate because he wants Medicare for all who want it.
That's his plan.
That's what he calls it.
And that's a government-sponsored plan to people who want it, while letting others keep their private insurance, as opposed to simply Medicare for all, no other option.
Yeah.
Like Bernie Sanders.
So this is really, to be clear, people don't necessarily understand.
They say, well, this seems more moderate than Bernie Sanders.
OK, sure.
It's a public option, just like Obamacare, but to a far more extreme degree.
Let me explain.
If you don't enroll in the insurance plan, The Medicare for All, for those who want it, according to Pete Buttigieg, instead of just being fined $695, I think that's what it was, right, under Obamacare?
Yeah, under Obamacare, yeah.
$600, $700, I don't remember exactly.
Instead of that, you'll be automatically registered, if you don't have insurance, in the government program, and you could retroactively owe as much as $7,000 in premiums at the end of the year, even though you never used the insurance.
Oh my gosh.
So it's like, for all who want it, and if you don't want it, what are you gonna pay $7,000 anyway?
Well, I thought you said, if I want it.
Yeah, but then I realized, Oops.
F*** you!
Oh, thank you, Pete ButtGig!
Now I understand the plan.
And their campaign is so out of touch with reality that their staffers basically said, well, it's not like you didn't have health insurance the entire year.
You're just paying for something that you had that you didn't pay for before.
Somebody's going to be happy about doing that?
But I didn't want it.
It doesn't matter.
I don't understand the words that are coming out of your mouth.
I never used it.
Well, you could have.
But I didn't want to.
Well, you know, I guess we're at an impasse.
No, we're not!
That's not how this works!
No.
You are stealing from me.
You say tomato.
I say $7,000 premium.
And it doesn't end there, by the way, because we go back to the illegal immigration.
So you talk about this, it's Medicare for all who want it, which really isn't an option.
He wants to extend the government-funded insurance to everyone, including illegal immigrants.
Here you go.
And for people listening in audio, I'll help translate.
He's talking about health care to everyone in the country, to allegedly an illegal immigrant.
She's saying, como dice, free s**t. Medicare for all who want it, Pete Buttigieg says, that is our solution.
And this opportunity to buy this plan is for everyone.
Regardless of their immigration status.
What?
Say what?
Come on DC, free shit?
C. At least his Spanish is better than Cory Booker.
That image is what I was thinking about when I was watching that.
It's better than Beto O'Rourke.
Oh my gosh.
But not as good as Andrew Yang's Cantonese.
Is it Cantonese?
I have no idea.
Don't care.
He's gone.
He's merely a footnote.
That's right.
In the history books of the Asians.
I don't even know what I'm talking about.
I love it.
Sometimes I just feel like Andrew Yang just wanted to build a wall to block out all the
other candidates.
They just say, when you're not doing well, you revert to what you know.
I think he wanted to party for a few months and have it funded by other people.
Mission accomplished.
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean, great.
But think about this for a second.
Think about that.
You want to create basically mandated.
They say it's an option, but you have taxpayer-funded healthcare.
And then, you want to extend it to people who are not even citizens.
And by the way, do you see now the problem with abolishing an organization like ICE, who are designed to prevent illegal immigration, while you are simultaneously incentivizing it?
And you are incentivizing it, by the way.
Let's be honest, Pete Buttigieg, you've never done anything successfully yourself in your own life.
You are incentivizing it by footing the bill at the American taxpayer's expense.
Yes.
They don't care about the American worker.
People wonder why you've seen all these states that have flipped over.
I don't think I've ever been more wrong about anything in my life when I said there's no way Donald Trump wins Michigan.
There's no way because it was such a working class kind of union state and the unions were bought and paid for by obviously Democrats and then Hillary Clinton just screwed it up.
She did everything possible to lose them.
It is remarkable to me.
But these people don't feel represented by you.
Why?
Because, according to Bernie Sanders, mind you, anyone making over $29,000 a year would have to pay more for this government-funded health insurance program, and so the American taxpayer will be subsidizing illegal immigrants, according to their own words.
It doesn't mean that the American taxpayer, the average American worker, is racist.
It doesn't mean that they hate brown people.
It means that they don't want to be forced into a health care system, which they don't want to be a part of.
A lot of them like their private insurance.
And they certainly don't want to be forced to pay for people who have no business being here in the first place, many of whom don't pay any taxes.
And the ones with face tattoos are animals.
Not all of them.
I want to be clear.
I don't want you to say that, like Donald Trump, I'm calling all Mexicans animals.
No.
No, no, no, no.
Just the ones with the face tattoos who do gang initiations where they steal Gran Torinos.
It's very specific.
Those were my cousins.
So let's move on to guns.
This is another one and this is a really hard issue for the left because you have a lot of people.
Look at Bernie Sanders.
He's from Vermont.
It's as liberal as it gets.
It's the place of Ben and Jerry for crying out loud.
And you don't even need a permit at all to carry a gun, open or concealed.
They have the most liberal gun laws in the country.
There are plenty of Democrats who are still pro Second Amendment.
This is a real problem for the Democratic Party.
Pete Buttigieg, he signed off on all of the Democrats' most radical gun control proposals.
And I want you to watch this clip because it's very telling in his own words as to why he is so pro-gun control and sweeping, constricting gun control legislation.
Closing the hate loophole, the Charleston loophole, the Boyd-Randolph loophole, disarming domestic offenders, enacting red flag laws, extreme risk protection orders, banning the sale of assault weapons like what I carried in Afghanistan.
We know what we have to do.
The question is, how do we make sure that this time really is different?
Because every time we say this time is different.
And all of the plans, of course, I think my plan is the best.
So does everybody else.
Of course.
All of them are multiplied by zero if we don't actually get something done.
And so this is not just a question about policy.
This is a question about power.
There it is.
It's a question about power.
That's what it is.
It's not about policy.
It's a question about power.
Because what would be more empowering to a bloated bureaucratic federal government than removing your ability to say no at some point down the line?
That's really what the Second Amendment is.
People don't understand.
They talk about a war.
It's not about a civil war, and of course I'm not advocating any kind of civil unrest right now.
But what the Second Amendment is truly about, right?
You have the First Amendment, you have the right to say whatever you want.
The Second Amendment allows you the right to defend saying, no.
Well, you're going to have to do this.
No.
You're going to have to pay for health care for illegal immigrants.
No.
That's what the Second Amendment is about.
Or, you're going to have to be enslaved.
Take your pick.
Name any corrupt government throughout the history of man.
We act like we're somehow beyond this.
We act like we're somehow beyond this.
Slavery goes on across the world.
You have people across the modern Western world who are jailed for jokes.
The Second Amendment allows you to say, hey, we're going to take you to prison because you made a joke.
That's the express purpose of the Second Amendment.
That's why they talk about it being about power.
Something else that I think is important here, the hate loophole.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Actually, before that, he said, like weapons I took into war.
He was in the military.
Can you point me to any soldier who's gone into battle with an AR-15 ever?
Ever.
You're a shooter there, Half-Asian Builder.
Do they carry AR-15s?
No, they're carrying M16s.
Maybe they're carrying an M4.
Maybe they're carrying an M60.
But they're all carrying automatic or burst, which are outside of the action.
Exactly.
And that's pretty important, because they try to say, well, the AR-15, it's the same chassis as an M16, only it doesn't have the automatic or burst.
That's the whole point!
One's a gun where you pull a trigger and a bullet comes out like all guns, the other is a machine gun, effectively.
I have two Walther PPQs, okay?
One of them fires 9mm, one of them fires .40 Smith & Wesson.
I have three, sorry.
Then one fires .22 for plinking in practice.
It's not the same firearm.
Just because it looks the same, that is the least relevant piece of information as it relates to a firearm.
So, Kent, I want people to think about this particular point.
Yes, I want them to think.
There's always this question of saying, well, isn't more today, we're having more mass murders, we're having more problems with these guns, but before the automatic weapons ban was passed, before the assault weapons ban was passed, before we got into a society that cared less about conservative principles and more about cultural and moral relativism, They all agree there was less mass murders, less mass shootings back then.
So, wait, we have more laws, we have more restrictions, so is the difference not the amount of guns that we have or the amount of people with guns?
It's the question of who's behind the gun and who's actually pulling the trigger, and that's never addressed in that entire list that he gave you about how do we prevent these kinds of crimes.
And I understand that's more of a philosophical exercise, because the truth is, they're lying, there is an increased number.
Well, even if you assume that it's true, it falls apart when you get past the surface of it.
Right.
No, you're absolutely right.
And the other thing, and I want you to come in on this, the hate loophole.
Hold on a second.
These people do this a lot because, like he said, they're in positions of power, right?
And they want you in the dark as much as possible.
That's not a conspiracy.
When he says, hate loophole, this is the first I've heard of it.
This is what I do for a living!
Really?
You don't know her?
I don't know about that.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
It's amazing.
Really?
It's the one that says if you have a race card or a gender card, you can use that to say everyone else hates you.
Oh!
That's why you don't know about it, Whitey.
Whitey, pass, go.
You're not in the group.
I've used it.
I'm allowed to tell people to hate you because of your race and your religion because of the way I look.
That's textbook usage.
You're 50% white.
It was great.
It was excellent.
He's not 50% white.
What'd you, 23andMe him?
You have no idea.
I did.
How dare you, Gerald, question his race?
It's in his name!
Democrats have been trying to pass these bills, the hate loophole, when I looked into it a little more, that would make it illegal to own or purchase a firearm if you've been convicted of a misdemeanor hate crime.
So that's important because right now if you're convicted of a violent crime or an actual felony, obviously you cannot purchase a firearm.
We already have those laws.
What is a misdemeanor hate crime?
What would you have to do to get charged with it, okay?
So here's a specific example in looking it up.
There were these students at a University of Connecticut, okay?
They were goofing off, and by the way, not condoning these actions, so let's be clear.
Of course.
They were yelling increasingly offensive words back and forth.
It was like, you remember the penis game when you were a kid?
Yes.
You say, you say penis.
Penis.
Penis.
Ha.
Penis.
Penis.
Penis!
It's not really a challenge because I'm a host, and so no one here is going to blame me.
But that was a game we used to play.
I know women are saying, well, what did you used to play?
We're very stupid.
We played the circle game, where someone looks in a circle.
For some reason, I'm allowed to hit him.
Yes.
Right.
Everybody agrees to the rules.
Unless you get your finger through the hole.
Or I'm in the clan, apparently.
Apparently, yeah.
One of those two.
One of those two.
And then we used to play the penis game as a kid, which is where you would have to say penis increasingly louder in a public space to see who would be more readily charged with a sex crime.
That was effectively the game.
At stake was your permanent record.
So the kids were doing this, but they were doing a variation.
From what I understand, offensive words back and forth.
Some other students filmed them saying the N-word.
Again, not saying you should yell the N-word, of course not.
They were charged with a misdemeanor hate crime.
So just saying a slur, not even at anyone, and you could lose your Second Amendment rights,
your God-given right to protect your house and home.
Imagine that.
When you're a kid, and by the way, penis could also, the penis game, comment below
if you've ever played the penis game.
I'm not saying this to try and be shocking.
It was a very common game in high school.
Let me know if you've played it because now that could be a hate crime if you say
it around someone who's gender fluid and they could be really upset.
And then 20 years down the line, oh, there's a robber at your house and you don't have
your 357 next to your bedside because you mentioned male genitalia across the bathroom
from someone who had male genitalia but claimed they were a woman.
Thanks, Pete Buttigieg!
I appreciate it!
Exactly.
And we could all be found guilty of that crime just by singing our favorite rap song.
We've gone through this with all those different words.
Like, just saying the word itself is what you're saying is wrong here.
By the way, we've said this so many times.
There is no such thing as hate speech.
There is no such thing as a hate crime.
I don't tend to commit crime in a loving manner.
The penalty shouldn't be different because I thought about you differently in my head when I killed you.
The end result is that you're dead.
And I do recommend you look up the hate loophole and see the cases that they actually make.
It is startling that they believe people people on the left believe that folks should lose their second amendment
rights Yeah, and one of the interesting things we're going through
that story notice how it was unstated what the skin color was of the people
It was it was because think about it if if the skin color had been anything
other than white or or most certainly had been african-american or black it
It would have been no story.
There would have been no story.
It would have been simply, oh, that's certainly OK.
So again, it's not just the words that they're being said.
It's who's saying them and the outer characteristics of them.
Again, judging by skin color and not by content.
So it's not the words themselves.
It's who's saying the words.
I think a lot of people don't know this.
It's like, oh, we need background checks.
OK, this is why we used to do the hashtag gift a gun.
We should bring it back.
Anyone who's ever purchased a firearm legally knows you get a background check.
Yeah, every time.
That's what happens.
I just watched some film.
I don't remember what it was.
Oh, it's that show Messiah.
Terrible show, by the way, on Netflix.
And the guy goes in to buy a gun.
And he just goes, yes, I would like to buy a gun.
And he gives him a fake ID where it clearly doesn't look like him.
And the guy goes, fine to me.
And he just hands him a bunch of ammo and a gun.
That's not what happens.
You're usually there for a half hour.
You have to check a bunch of boxes.
For some reason, you have to check Caucasian as well as not Latino, which is weird to me.
Yeah, what is that?
I don't get that one.
It's very weird to me.
I thought the first check did the both, you know.
But they just want to make sure you're really not Latino.
Okay, fine.
Like you're not like Latino, like Elizabeth Warren is Native American.
Why is this on the questionnaire?
I just wanted to buy a Walter.
There's actually a place where you can put how much percentage Native American you are, and it goes to nine digits.
It has to.
It's like pie.
Decimal point and then a lot of... That's Darren Aronofsky's next film.
It's a sequel.
Climate change.
Let's go to climate change.
Pete Buttgig, this is so funny to me, he supported AOC's Green New Deal.
We're gonna get the wiki now.
Which I don't even know how... You can go back and watch that video where I read the entire Green New Deal on camera.
It's six pages.
If you bought a used car, your car fax is longer than the Green New Deal.
Not a lot of substance.
And not only that, but Pete Buttigig went as far to, while we're talking about the moderate, claim that climate change was a big cause of the Syrian war, and that if you eat hamburgers or straws, you are part of the problem.
Don't take my word for it.
And migration crises are increasing because of things like droughts and fires that are accelerated by the problems in our climate.
There's some evidence that this contributed Is there some evidence, Pete?
I think we think about it mostly through the perspective of guilt.
You know, from using a straw to eating a burger, am I part of the problem?
Oh, really?
Well, Pete, problem!
Because I think some folks are missing.
Oh, wow.
That's every one of the things.
Is his mouth ever closed?
Look, I think this is so stupid.
What, did Assad get hot?
And he was like, oh, it's terribly hot over here.
And he just started killing people.
No, he didn't.
He also forgets one very important thing.
Jobs don't always equal peace.
In some cultures, they do.
But these guys hate us.
Yeah.
ISIS is fighting them.
They're always going to be fighting.
It's not because of the weather.
Yeah.
Okay.
He thinks that we now have ISIS and people are being burned alive in cages because the 1.2 change Fahrenheit exacerbated Soleimani's male menopause.
Exactly.
Kill all the Jews!
I know, not Soleimani.
We get it.
That's the thing I learned.
I didn't realize that the Middle East was apparently not a desert before.
Oh, yeah.
They're not used to heat.
Then America caused the Middle East to become a desert because of our huge impact on the environment, and that's what created ISIS.
Well, if we did it Greta's way, effectively, Syria would be fern gully.
They'd be growing kale and shit.
Yeah, they would.
It'd be great.
Should I feel shame?
Nothing has ever grown here!
Aside from terrorism!
That's in abundance.
Collard greens are not a cultural staple for you, for good reason.
How dare you?
We dare.
We dare, sweetheart.
Okay, let's go to abortion.
This is another one.
Again, the moderate candidate, Pete Buttigieg.
Let me know what you think.
Buttigieg made waves for saying that there's no place, by the way, for pro-life Democrats in the party.
So that's what people know, and they thought, well, that's kind of maybe off-color.
They think maybe it's a one-off.
No, it's not.
Because he also refuses to place any limit on abortion at all, including infanticide.
And this isn't a radical position in the Democratic Party.
We'll talk about that with Alan Dershowitz a little bit, America's favorite lawyer, after this.
Because someone that must be conflicted if they consider themselves pro-abortion, pro-choice, but they think there are limits, there is no place for you in the Democratic Party.
It's actually far more moderate because nearly every major Republican considers there to be exceptions for rape or incest.
Democrats?
None.
Not a single candidate outside of Tulsi Gabbard would name a point where you should stop the abortion.
So, before watching...
A clip that I'm about to show you.
Remember, even the pro-choice group, the Guttmacher Institute, they say that most late-term abortions, this is important, are not because of birth defects or because of health of the mother.
So when Butkey goes on to say in this clip, like, oh, late-term abortions mean there's some kind of terrible health problem, according to his own sources, he's flat-out lying.
Now you see the clip.
From pro-life people like me, was that you met a baby actually being born.
There's a lot of controversy with Governor Northam and what it means and what time a woman should be able to have an abortion.
I just wanted you to clarify because I found that statement to be pretty radical.
Well, I'm just pointing to the fact that different people will interpret their own moral lights and for that matter interpret scripture differently.
Partial birth abortion is something that was coming up in, like I said, Governor Northam.
It was a huge controversy when he was running for governor.
And I think people and Democrats, and there are a lot of pro-life Democrats in the country, want to know exactly where your line is.
Because you will be the president if you win.
Right, but my point is that it shouldn't be up to a government official to draw the line.
It should be up to the woman who's confronted with the truth.
And both things aside, after a baby was born, you'd be comfortable with that.
But does anybody seriously think that's what these cases are about?
I think that there are people pushing for that, yes.
Think about the situation.
If this is a late-term situation, then by definition, it's one where a woman was expecting to carry the pregnancy to term.
Then she gets the most perhaps devastating news of her life.
We're talking about families that may have Picked out a name, maybe assembling a crib, and they learn something excruciating, and are faced with this terrible choice.
And I don't know what to tell them, morally, about what they should do.
She's trying to give him rope to pull in his lifeboat.
It's like, here you go, here's rope, here's a life string, and he's like... And he's strangling himself with it.
Yes, exactly.
And she's just sitting there like, hey, what do you think?
What do you think?
anything right away.
What do you think of that?
Stop.
Stop it.
As if the cackling weren't enough.
Now I got to deal with your mic pops.
It's just it's just it's like they're out stupid in each other.
So this is completely untrue.
It's not only untrue by the source, but let me give you a thought exercise here, okay?
We know that from the Guttmacher Institute, that's not the case for the vast majority of late-term abortions.
There's almost no time where a late-term abortion is medically necessary.
Period.
Ever.
But do you really buy that?
Do you really buy that for a second?
This is a gross disservice to women who have miscarriages, or women who want to have children, there are birth complications.
Because if a woman actually had the room painted, had a crib up, and she's had a housewarming party, a baby shower, and they've done a whole gender reveal, which I guess is also hate speech now, maybe you won't be able to buy an AR-15 after that, I have no idea, according to Pete Buttigieg.
But do you really think that this mom is the kind of mom who is going to abort that baby at eight or nine months?
If there is a .05% chance of that baby living, that mother of course is going to go through
with the birth because to them, going through the process of birth is a small price to pay.
I'm not saying it's a small price to pay, but to them, even for the possibility that
this baby, this human being could be brought into the world.
Do you really even believe he's trying to pay a hypothetical scenario to tug on your
Let's use it.
A mom paints the walls blue.
It's going to be a boy.
The mom's been taking prenatal vitamins.
The mom is not a Planned Parenthood activist.
The mom actually wants to have this baby.
The mom's gone and had ultrasounds.
The mom has already named the baby.
And the doctor says the baby's doing well.
And all of a sudden, there's a complication where this baby may or may not make it, like a Tim Tebow, at eight months or nine months.
And you think that mom goes, oh, well, get the forceps.
Really?
No.
Really?
It's just amazing to me the dishonesty and the fact that he wouldn't just take the layup and say, well, of course I'm against infanticide.
Yeah.
That's the easy one, right?
Of course you can say that.
And he said moral at the end of it.
Morally, I don't know what to tell them.
How about not killing a child?
Is there any clear moral line that we can draw?
Fine, if we have disagreements down the line on week 20, week 25, week 30, can we just say that at the very end when doctors say it's almost never medically necessary to have an abortion, can we just say that that's the moral line?
And we have to be really clear.
Some people go, what if it's dead and it's a stillbirth?
That's not what we're talking about.
We are talking about a baby at 7, 8, 9 months.
There is no debate at this point when people say, well, it's a nuanced issue.
It's not nuanced at all that this baby could live outside of the womb, right?
Babies are born all the time.
I think it was either me or my brother was born premature.
One of us was aching to get out.
One of us couldn't be pulled out.
I don't remember which one was which.
I was talking to my mother.
It's warm in here.
Stop.
I'm going to bed.
I was born early because I was kicking.
I'm like, I gotta get out of here.
Right.
But the point is, I don't even remember what the point was.
The point is no.
The point is no.
Don't kill your child.
We are talking about a seven, eight month old baby that is still alive, but there is a
strong chance that this baby doesn't make it.
And so you make a decision to stop the heart.
We are talking about a scenario where there's a beating heart, there's a live baby, and because there's a chance it may not make it, a doctor and a woman are stopping the heart of that seven, eight-month-old baby.
And the statistics, the research, according to ButtGig's own sources show us it is never medically necessary.
That is unequivocally, it's not nuanced, that is murder.
That is murder, and I believe that a doctor who willingly does that should be charged with murder.
Yeah.
And if you happen to be in Virginia, if you make that decision and the baby comes out, we have tape of them saying, this is what you should be allowed to do.
You should make a decision whether you're going to let this baby live or die.
Yeah.
That is remarkable.
That's not taking it out of context.
That's the full context.
No, it's literally what he's saying.
All right, we do have to get going.
Anything to add there, Bill?
Yeah, so definitely Pete is a moderate.
I wasn't sure.
I was on the fence, but now I'm convinced.
He's so fucked.
When people say moderate, okay, if you compare him to Bernie Sanders, again, the guy who honeymooned in the USSR, the guy who said a 90% tax rate is okay, alright, I understand it.
But remember they used to say Barack Obama was sort of leading us towards socialism?
Pete Buttigieg is so far to the left of Barack.
He's well beyond the passing lane.
He's just past the median in a ditch, okay?
Pete Buttigieg is to the left of Barack Obama.
He would be the furthest left president that we've ever had in the history of this country.
But unfortunately, because we are comparing him now to radical leftist socialists, the guy who supports infanticide, the guy who wants mandated government health care, the guy who wants to take away semi-automatic weapons, even if you happen to have used a naughty word at some point, is seen as a moderate candidate.
Pete Buttigieg, that Sniveling, little mouth always open at the fair, Worm is being presented as a moderate candidate.
Did somebody say the Worm?
Oh, oh my gosh.
He's back.
Come on, dude.
He's so relatable.
Oh.
Okay.
Wow.
Alright, Alan Dershowitz after this.
Can someone shoot him?
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BRCC.
That's the abbreviation.
I mean, ma'am.
I mean, dear.
Tim just walked out.
And there was Tim's face.
It's better to have love and lust than never to have love and lust.
Tim just walked out, and there was Tim's face, and then Brian stepped in his face.
This is bizarre.
He closed the door and was like... I'm fasting.
You did it.
You f***ed me up.
I'm Draco!
Come and eat!
Starship, come cheer up.
Come on in!
Come cheer up, my friends.
It's better to have love and friends.
1, 7, 3, 4, 6, 7, 3, 2, 1, 4, 7, 6, Charlie, 3, 2, 7, 8.
I don't know what they're saying in that song at all.
Me neither.
I have no idea.
I don't get it.
And I also don't understand, I still don't understand the beanie.
But we've already been over that!
Alright, our next guest, no stranger to controversy.
I feel like, especially with a lot of people who might watch the show who are younger, who aren't necessarily as involved in the political process, they know the name But they don't know everything, that he's sort of played a role in a huge part of American history.
He is, of course, a lawyer, a former Harvard Law professor.
He has a new book out.
I want to make sure I get this right.
Guilt by Association, which provides a pretty in-depth analysis of some of the accusations brought against him by these alleged Jeffrey Epstein sort of victims.
One of them is Virginia.
I don't know how to pronounce her.
Virginia Roberts.
It sounds like a cheese that I would mispronounce.
But he was also, of course, a part of President Donald Trump's defense team amid the impeachment saga.
You can follow him on the Twitter at Alan Dershowitz.
Spoiler alert.
Mr. Alan Dershowitz, how are you, sir?
Well, thank you, but it's guilt by accusation.
Did I get that wrong again?
I keep saying association.
All right.
And you can get it for $1.95 on Kindle.
And it's really worth reading because the accusation against me by a woman I never met could happen to you, could happen to your brother, your sister, your child.
So you should read guilt by accusation.
I do get accused quite a bit by women I've never met, but they're not as grave.
It's just, you're a prick.
And I say, well, you know, the evidence, we have to weigh it.
But before we get to that, so it is guilt by accusation, $1.99.
That's right.
Did you do the audio book?
I did.
Oh, there you go.
That's a lot.
I did the audio book, and the Kindle is there, so you can read it or hear it in any format you want.
How long does it take you to do an audio book like that?
Because it's not a short read.
It's a day.
Usually a day, starting at nine and going until about five.
I read pretty quickly.
I don't make that many mistakes, so it goes pretty fast.
But, you know, my phone rings, and I have to take pauses, and clients on death row, clients who are up for long prison terms, they have a right to call me at any time, so I don't turn off my phone.
Hey, quick question.
This is just totally, when you get your phone and it rings, do you ever answer, is it ever Gloria Allred?
Because I imagine that would be a fight for the ages.
Well, Low Glory and I are friends.
I like her, I admire her.
I think she does a great job when she represents people who are justly accusing other people.
And she basically told me that she didn't believe the accusation against me, so I think she is one of the people who really can distinguish True accusations from false accusations.
Many feminists have been on my side because they see false accusers really hurting the movement terribly.
And that's what happened with my accuser.
She was put up to it by her lawyers.
They saw a real pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
And now I'm suing the lawyers and suing her.
And I want to see her in prison because she filed false affidavits knowing there were false affidavits.
And people who make false accusations against people they never met should go to prison.
People who make false accusations that are matters of degree, well, I don't think people I want to circle back to that.
So, Gloria Allred, fair to say in your favorites, in your five favorites on the iPhone.
who deliberately and willfully sit down and say, I'm going to accuse somebody I never met
because I can make a lot of money.
People like that ought to go to jail.
Wow. And I want to circle back to that.
So, Gloria Allred, fair to say in your favorites, in your five favorites on the iPhone.
We get it. But let me ask you, controversial figure, obviously you've been a lifelong liberal Democrat
from what you've said on shows.
I want to make sure that people are clear on that because some people confuse your defense of Trump as you being a lifelong Republican.
So as a lifelong Democrat, you decided you opted to help defend President Trump here.
Why?
For people who may not necessarily know, but it is very compelling for people to hear.
For the same reason that I helped defend President Bill Clinton.
I testified in his behalf.
I consulted with his legal team.
I wrote a book about it.
I wrote op-eds about it.
I don't believe impeachment should be used for partisan purposes.
I also defended the rights of Richard Nixon.
Even though I supported his impeachment, I thought he was being treated unfairly by some prosecutors, and so I jumped in to defend his rights, too.
For me, I always defend the Constitution.
If Hillary Clinton had been elected president and she were impeached on grounds of abuse of power, I would have been there defending her as well.
So as I said in my speech in front of the Senate, I'm here on behalf of a principal.
I'm here because I love my country, I love the Constitution, and I don't want to see the Constitution turned into a partisan weapon And I think there are some misconceptions here.
I think the key one that we often hear is, you're talking about a trial with no witness when they talk about the impeachment saga.
Most people have no idea what went on in the House, right?
and removed from office.
And I think there are some misconceptions here.
I think the key one that we often hear is this.
You're talking about a trial with no witness when they talk about the impeachment saga.
Most people have no idea what went on in the House, right?
How many witnesses do we have when we talk about the House?
Was it 17 or was it 19?
Was it 17 or 18, including Schiff?
I've also heard 19, but a lot of people think no witnesses ever at any point, and that's just flat-out wrong.
It's flat-out wrong, number one.
Number two, there shouldn't have been any witnesses in the Senate for a very obvious reason.
There was no impeachable crime charge.
Let me give you an example.
Let's assume you were accused of miscegenation, having sex with a woman of the opposite race.
Which of course is a crime in many states.
You'd go into court immediately and say, hey, it's unconstitutional.
And they would say, but witnesses, we need witnesses.
No, no, you don't get witnesses if you charge somebody with an unconstitutional crime.
You don't get to call witnesses if you charge a president With unimpeachable, non-impeachable offenses.
You have to first reach the threshold.
Is it an impeachable offense?
If we can prove it, then if you can prove it, you get to call witnesses.
But even if you proved it, it wouldn't be an impeachable offense.
Obviously, abuse of power is not an impeachable offense.
Obstruction of Congress is not an impeachable offense.
You don't get to call witnesses.
What would constitute an impeachable offense?
What would constitute an impeachable offense?
Because a lot of other people on the other side, well, I don't want to say other side because, again, you're a lifelong Democrat, have argued that these were impeachable offenses.
I absolutely don't think they are.
But what would you say passes that threshold?
Richard Nixon, very clearly.
Richard Nixon trying to get elected president, thought it was in the public interest to have himself elected president, obstructed justice, bribed witnesses, paid hush money, destroyed evidence.
All of those things were crimes, high crimes.
Perfect case for impeachment, the only case for impeachment in American history.
Andrew Johnson shouldn't have been impeached, Bill Clinton shouldn't have been impeached, and Donald Trump shouldn't have been impeached.
But Richard Nixon should have been impeached.
Anybody who commits a high crime or a misdemeanor, anybody who commits treason or bribery should be impeached.
But we haven't had cases like that in our history.
But the framers rejected broad, open-ended criteria like abuse of power.
40 of our presidents have been accused of abusing their power by political opponents.
Do we want to make every president subject to impeachment if the House is under the control of the opposite party?
That's what I was fighting against.
Right.
And what would constitute, I guess, you said high crimes, misdemeanors, would perjury constitute?
Because I know we've talked about Bill Clinton.
So that's why... But it has to be... That was a low crime, not a high crime.
It was perjury about private life, not perjury about something that involved governance.
Had he committed perjury involving governance, that would be an impeachable offense or extortion or a wide variety of crimes.
But give me an example of mystery.
Alexander Hamilton, when he was Secretary of Treasury and therefore subject to impeachment, had an affair with a woman.
He was married and she was married.
Those were both felonies under existing law with serious punishments.
But he wasn't impeached.
And then he was extorted.
And then the extortionist said, I'm going to say that you paid money to me out of Treasury funds.
Had he paid the money out of Treasury funds, That would have been a high crime, but he didn't.
So he wasn't impeached, and he was one of the people who wrote about impeachment during the framing generation.
Right.
Yeah, I do think it is important for people to look at the founding documents, look at the framers at what they considered to be impeachable and what they specifically excluded.
A lot of people don't necessarily brush up on that.
You go on, there were a lot of conversations.
There was a lot of back and forth.
They said, OK, this, yes, is acceptable.
That is not.
And I think we fell right under the latter category.
And that's what the Democrats failed to understand.
Right.
The framers excluded maladministration, which was one of the criteria for impeachment under English law, because Madison, the father of the Constitution, said that would be too open-ended.
It would turn us into a British parliamentary democracy.
Where the president serves at the pleasure of the legislature.
So you rejected that.
And he rejected that.
He also rejected implicitly abuse of power, obstruction of Congress, malpractice, all the vague, open-ended criteria that framers did not want to govern impeachment under the Constitution.
That's the argument I made on the floor of the Senate.
Many senators agreed with me.
And then, of course, the Democrats and CNN went on a rampage and claimed that I said I don't believe this.
can commit any crime he wants as long as he wants to be uh... arrested you know it wants to be elected
it was as if i said the following this is a good example it's as if i said the following
i don't believe this this is false
i don't believe a president can commit any crime in order to get elected
and then cnn excluded the first part and just said
a president can do anything he wants including miscommunicate
Do you think that was deliberate?
This is my question.
This is a very different context here, because you appear on CNN quite a bit, and they would consider themselves friendly to you for a long time.
Conservatives didn't consider you...
Okay, so is it awkward for you?
Like, with Stelter and Cuomo?
Can you still, like, ring them up?
Or are you persona non grata?
Because you used to hang out there a little bit.
I am pretty much persona non grata since I started defending the rights of the president.
But, you know, I have accused them deliberately and willfully of doctoring my interview.
What do I mean by doctoring?
Well, they edited it, but they edited it in a way to suggest the opposite of what I said. I said if the
president commits any crime, he can be impeached. They took that out and they said, I said, if a
president commits any crime, he can't be impeached. That's not just editing, that's
doctoring. And that's what CNN did and MSNBC did it and some of the other networks did it. And
then the members of Congress of the managers quoted CNN and MSNBC and made me say things that
were exactly the opposite of what Exactly the opposite.
And they are so good at doctoring.
I blame Sanjay Gupta.
When you have a guy on staff and that's all he does, that's what he's looking to do.
That's his job.
I want to move back to the Epstein case and to this Virginia.
How do I pronounce her last name, by the way?
Goofray.
Goofray.
Virginia Roberts.
That's what I'm going to go with.
I don't think we're so concerned about the name there.
Before I move on to that, though, you did write an article, an op-ed, sorry, in The Hill, I believe, where you talked about some of your friends at Martha's Vineyard that they've demanded, now, do I have this right, trigger warnings, so they can be assured to know that they won't encounter you or your ideas?
Is this in the entirety of Martha's Vineyard?
No, but we had a group on Martha's Vineyard, probably 30 couples that we used to socialize with.
Many of them now refuse to have anything to do with me.
One of them just wrote me an incredibly self-righteous letter saying, I can no longer be in your society.
How do you know the hand flutters?
I can see it because I know the guy.
Right.
The most boring guy on the face of the earth.
What a blessing for him to say to me, I don't want to be in your society.
I had to be polite to him.
For years, because my wife and his wife got along and they were friends.
But the guy was so boring when I got the letter saying he didn't want to be in my society.
Anyway, I jumped up and down and cheered.
But many people on Martha's Vineyard have refused to be associated with us.
And they want to know where I'm going to be.
So they say, We had a friend who had a daughter or son having a wedding.
A wedding party.
And we were, of course, close friends, but so was another couple.
And the other couple said, no, you have to make a choice.
If you invite Alan and his wife to the wedding, we're not going to... So you're a real-life Larry David, where you just put the MAGA hat on the seat next to you so that people wouldn't bother you.
He got the idea from me!
Larry got the idea for me.
The only difference is I don't have to wear the MAGA hat.
I will show up, and people walk and leave the restaurant.
All you have to do is defend the most controversial president in modern American history.
It's a trade-off.
I would go for the beanie, as Quarterback Garrett here would.
Final question, and then we're going to go to a web extended here after a quick break.
Did you get that same kind of backlash when you defended people like O.J.
Simpson, Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Mike Tyson?
No, nothing like it.
In those instances, people said, we don't like what you're doing.
With Trump, they say, we don't like who you are.
We don't like who you are.
And it was very personal.
In the other cases, well, we wish you didn't do it, but we still like you.
But we don't like you now, and we don't like who you are and what you've become.
What have I become?
I've been a civil libertarian all my life.
I've never deviated from my principles.
I would be doing the same thing.
If Hillary had been elected president, I would be a very happy man today.
A, because I supported her.
Part of me believes that.
Part of me believes that you're saying that publicly because you don't want to get whacked.
I'd be the hero of Martha's Vineyard making exactly the same arguments I'm making today.
What hypocrisy.
Part of me believes that, part of me believes that you're saying that publicly because you
don't want to get whacked, but I understand it.
I appreciate it.
Stay safe out there.
We're going to come back after this to the WebEx Center.
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That's called when I was three years old and I jumped off the high dive and I forgot that I had arm floaties on, and it's very painful.
Because you don't shoot up back to the surface like you normally would, you shoot up shoulders first.
So you go... Very uncomfortable.
It's rough.
Yep.
And I almost drowned with one of those floaty belts because it tips you over, it doesn't tip you back.
Alan Dershowitz, people who have experienced this close call with death.
From their floaty belt at Seaway Pool in St.
Lambert.
Know what it is of which I speak.
Everyone else, sorry.
Alan Dershowitz, there's a long extended interview available on Mug Club where we talk more about Epstein and the sexers, all that stuff.
So, next week some big shows coming your way as well.
I think we have Rudy Giuliani on the show next Thursday.
You sound like you don't want to be here.
You're like this kid who's cynical about everything in college so he just insults things by saying something that sounds like it's not an insult but is meant as an insult and everyone's like, oh he must be smart.
Prestigious.
Like, funny.
Custodian.
Not funny?
Yes, custodian.
Well, that's not so much an adjective.
That's just a noun.
Custodian.
What do you have a problem with custodians?
They are the backbone of society.
Them and teachers.
I'm going to talk about something.
We were just talking about hate loopholes earlier today with the gun laws.
And I do encourage all of you, look up hate loophole.
And I want you to read the leftist sources and how they believe it should be closed and what they believe should constitute a hate crime misdemeanor.
Don't read conservative sources.
Just read the case, the actual cases themselves.
You can find them.
It's alarming.
And that sort of combined with I was just re-watching Silicon Valley recently, if anyone out there watches, I think it's one of the best comedies in the last decade.
It's a bit of a memory trigger.
I realized, for the same reason I hate these hate loopholes that they discuss, is what I hate so much about The left in comedy today.
We can say entertainment and culture at large, but let's kind of use comedy as a jumping off point.
In Silicon Valley, there's this character, Russ Hanneman.
Hilarious.
One of the funniest characters that I can think of in a modern sitcom.
He was making a joke about how his Russian mail order bride had some ideas regarding Jews.
He said something like, she has some ideas regarding Jews.
Some good.
Some bad.
That was the joke.
Now I'm sitting there laughing, and it's based on, you know, contextually,
it's tough for me to repeat it right now, but it's basically a joke about anti-Semitism, right?
And obviously they have Jewish people who work on the show, right?
They have Jewish people backing the show, producing the show, and they're comfortable
creating that kind of comedy.
So the joke itself is anti-Semitic-ish, but it's a joke about someone being blatantly anti-Semitic.
And I think that context is really important, because the reason that they're comfortable
creating these Jewish producers and actors is for the same reason that people were comfortable
with Don Rickles making jokes about everybody, regardless of race or ethnicity or gender,
or really, I mean, if you think about it, some of them didn't even make sense.
Muhammad Ali is here.
Look, gets punched in the face.
He goes, huh?
Huh?
He goes, huh?
What?
What?
He says what?
But people are like, well, you know, it's Don Rickles.
It's Don.
But it's the same, it's for the same reason that we weren't offended by Don Rickles back in the day.
It's for the same reason that friends, for example, especially guy friends out there, we were talking about this earlier, the penis game.
Friends make fun of other guys' moms.
You know that quarter black.
It's a common thing.
It's because you know that people don't really mean it.
You know that the people in Silicon Valley are not actually anti-Semitic.
You know that Don Rickles, when he's roasting Muhammad Ali, hates blacks about as much as he hates alcoholics when he's roasting Dean Martin, which is to say, not at all.
When you make fun of someone's mother, for women who don't understand this because we say the most filthy, depraved things you can say about someone's mother, that's what guys do, You may not understand, there are two mothers.
Guys, you can back me up on this if your wife is listening, if you're listening in the car, lest they make you shut it off forevermore, okay?
There are two mothers, we all know this, right?
There's the real mother, who's a lovely lady, who you have respect for and you treat politely when you see her, and then there's the imaginary mother, to whom you do unspeakable things on principle.
Just because you want to get under your friend's skin.
The reason that you can make those jokes, and I say this deliberately, is because it's a safe place because you know intent.
There's nothing more unfun than a guy makes a mom joke and someone else makes a mom joke and they're like, Because we're doing that, you know I don't actually want to hurt your feelings and insult your mother.
Again, the intent behind Silicon Valley is not to spread anti-Semitism.
Okay?
It's not to do any of those things.
It's just to try and interact with people.
And sometimes we interact with people in a way that might be offensive to some.
But the point is, it was fine back in the day.
And it was fine when you watch Silicon Valley in certain contexts.
People are free and open to explore.
They should be the creative space that is comedy.
And something that's really important, the reason we often do this and sometimes comedy goes too far is because unlike a lot of arts, I shouldn't say unlike a lot of arts, but I think sometimes people give a pass.
To music, or they give a pass to, I don't know, it could be poets, I have no idea.
But a lot of times, for some reason, people think, oh, a comedian all of a sudden means it.
Why?
Because there's no backup band, there's no bass, there's no drummer, it's just a guy talking into a microphone.
And so you assume that this must be 100% true or authentic.
And I think that's why comedy is a real lightning rod now.
Why people care about politically correct culture in comedy.
Let me tell you this, they don't give a free pass to comedy, but sometimes it's just as similar to artists I'm trying to say art.
Comedians are artists, but any other art.
You know, painting, doodling, whatever the hell it is.
I don't know what the term artist means anymore.
Are you a dick?
Are you self-important?
You're an artist.
We get it.
But all comedy, to some degree, all of it, almost without exception, comes from pain.
Every single bit, think about this, every joke or bit that you've heard, I want you to go through this thought experiment right now and find the pain.
In the jokes.
Louis C.K., obviously.
If you go to Bill Burr, obviously.
These are obvious ones.
If you go to Jerry Seinfeld, the pain comes from observing things in the mundane that irritate him.
The same reason Curb Your Enthusiasm is so funny to so many people.
Larry David gets upset at the smallest things and that causes him some degree of pain.
Let's go back to the most basic joke there is.
What's the first joke that almost everybody hears when they're a kid or tells?
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Why did the chicken cross the road?
I don't know.
To get to the other side.
The pain is you!
The pain is to get to the other side, stupid!
You're the idiot!
It is at your expense!
Comedy always comes at the expense of someone or something, some idea.
There's some kind of sting.
There's a kernel of ouch!
And what the left wants to do is make that impossible.
We're talking about this thing as it relates to guns, right?
Hate loopholes.
And we've seen people, my friend Mike Ward in Canada, lost before a human rights tribunal for making a joke about a make-a-wish kid in Canada who didn't die and he's been fined for violating human rights in making a joke about the kid not dying.
That's what hate speech laws lead to.
The left wants to make, and I know I'm speaking broadly, there are some exceptions, got it,
just none of them are running for the Democratic presidential nomination. All of them support
these kinds of laws. Or of course, every mainstream leftist channel, take Samantha Bee,
take Trevor Noah, take Young Turks, they all support some kind of hate speech laws.
The point is they want to make a culture, an atmosphere where we can be creative and we can
laugh again impossible. When not only do they accuse everybody of racism, but they also don't
don't have any proof of racism.
And even in the case where there are people who are very clearly, very vehemently anti-racist, as you see on this show, or as you see with other programs, whether it's... Take your pick.
They're always in the doghouse.
Dave Chappelle was in the doghouse at one point.
They want to accuse everyone of being racist, everyone of being homophobic, and they want you to believe that somehow comedy, what it's always been, is a secret racist dog whistle.
They want you to believe that there's racism around every corner.
Why?
Because it removes that safety of us giving the benefit of the doubt to most people so that we can enjoy our interactions and not be offended.
In other words, at one point in this country, like we're talking about with Don Rickles or whoever, I'm just using it as an example.
At one point in this country, the baseline, right?
It was not that everyone was a racist or that everyone was a homophobe.
At one point, the baseline was that most people telling a joke, particularly in a setting like comedy club or at a roast, were not doing it out of hate.
The baseline was we presumed that these are jokes.
We presumed we started off, the jumping off point, these are likely generally decent people who aren't hateful.
And now that's been turned into racism around every corner.
Everyone is a racist, or a sexist, or a homophobe.
And now it's, well, hold on a second, what if the guy's gay?
What if the guy's black?
Well, okay, now you're a transphobe.
Now you're a gender fluid phobe.
Now you're a phantom paraplegic phobe.
It just, the list keeps getting on.
Everyone needs to check their privilege in some way.
And by the way, that guy on stage at a comedy club is telling a joke regarding race.
Therefore, he must be a Nazi.
That is the jumping off point now.
Right?
You know, there's a lot more racism than you think.
That's what people want you to think right now.
There's more racism than you think.
Racism, there's a lot.
We've just been ignorant to it.
You need to be more aware.
You guys need to stop it.
That comedian means it.
That guy making a joke with his friends, that guy making a joke about your mother means it.
He's a rapist.
No!
And that's what happens.
We remove the safety, ironically, when we talk about safe spaces.
We remove the safety in trying to create all of these safe spaces for people who are offended by everything.
We've removed the benefit of the doubt from not only performers and public figures, but now as you see with hate loopholes, speech loopholes, and laws that are proposed and supported by current Democratic nominees, we've removed the benefit of the doubt from not only performers, but everyone in our day-to-day lives.
And that's how you have leftist liberals, progressives at the dinner table, with your family, who get offended, and sometimes there's a disconnect, you're like, I don't even know, why are they offended?
Sometimes you're not going, I know we push buttons on this show, but how many times have you recently had an interaction where someone has offended you?
I don't even know why!
There's nothing offensive about what I just said!
And that happens to everyone listening out there.
Pretty much everyone if you're not currently running for the President of the United States on the platform of the Democratic Party.
This, you know, an example, you might have an interaction where someone might be offended.
And again, what I'm talking about is a benign day-to-day interaction, not something where you're telling a joke, where, you know, you might be dancing on the line.
But how often does this happen, right?
You have an interaction you couldn't even compute as remotely offensive, wouldn't even enter into your mental equation, and it sets somebody off.
Why is there that disconnect?
This is really what, and I've been trying to examine why it bothers me so much.
This is because most of us are still living, most decent people, are still living in a world where we give the general benefit of the doubt to people if they make a joke, if they express an opinion, even something that we disagree with.
Right?
We might just say as a conservative, well hold on a second, what did you mean when you said that right there?
And of course the left, today, when you look at these proposed laws and you look at the cancel culture, and I think it's sort of simplified but it really is an important point, they want to remove any benefit of the doubt, which is ironic to me.
Because I think that we all believe as conservatives, and I talked about this with Dennis Prager, that human beings are flawed, selfish, sinful in nature, whereas the left wants us to believe that all people in centralized governments are inherently morally altruistic.
If everyone is inherently morally good, that's the only way socialism can work.
The only way socialism can work is if Pete Buttigieg or Bernie Sanders, anyone who actually grabs those reins, is inherently good and not prone to the human condition of being selfish and sinful.
If people are not all inherently morally good, you never trust this much of your life to a few central figureheads in the government.
So, the left looks at the world through a lens of everyone is basically good, but we don't.
Then they also want to create an atmosphere of, there's also racism, sexism, homophobia around every corner.
And that's how you know that it's a political tool.
You're bothered by it.
I'm bothered by it.
Why?
It's a political tool, and a lot of us aren't able to put our finger on it.
That's how you know it's being used to selectively silence voices.
And what I'm concerned about here is not just that, not what leftists want you to say, because none of us really care, but the culture of self-censorship that I see emerging.
I'm not talking about the First Amendment.
I'm talking about something that everyone out there needs to be aware of and you can control.
A culture of self-censorship is more concerning than just the First Amendment.
A lot of what we run into, okay, they're not, they're really not First Amendment issues.
But it's really a bully pulpit culture.
People use this term cancel culture.
It's not.
It's a bully culture.
And it's designed to create a country where everyone says, ah, I want to make this joke, but I can't say that.
Or, you know, you know what?
I actually have an opinion when it comes to affirmative action, but I can't.
I can't see it.
And you cover your mouth.
And you stay quiet.
Here's what I want you to do this week.
It's not so much an exercise for self-improvement.
This is an exercise for societal improvement.
I want everyone out there to walk forward like soldiers.
And I know this will probably get me banned.
Not violent soldiers.
Let's be clear.
Hilda Dyon was just allegorical.
Here's what I want you to do.
No more covering of your mouth.
Now, granted, exception, if you're an actual racist, if you're an actual sexist, and by that I mean if you believe that people are inferior exclusively because of their race or because of their sex and you want some kind of a white ethnostate or any ethnostate, you should probably cover your mouth a little bit more, okay?
I'm not talking to you.
Shut this off.
I don't want you listening.
But to everyone else, I want you this week to choose to no longer cover your mouth, to choose to stop walking on eggshells.
Now, don't choose to offend, but if you have something that you want to say and you're worried about people, Reacting, I want you to check your intent.
And if your intent is not malicious, say it.
Say what you are going to say.
Regardless of who it offends, I want you to say it.
I don't want this.
I want speaking.
And if someone is offended, follow up.
Ask them why and start a conversation.
The point is, I think you will find this to be the case, those people are fewer and further between than the media wants you to believe.
So everyone else out there, if you know your intent, you know who you are, you know what you mean, I don't want you to cover your mouth.
Stop with the self-censorship.
That's not what we do here.
That's not what we should do.
That's not how progress is made.
Progress is not made by getting all of the masses to self-censor and a few people in positions of power have the right to tell you what is and what is not okay to say.
It doesn't go anywhere good.
So if it seems trivial, if it seems like a menial task, no.
It starts with you controlling what you can.
And what can you control?
Check your heart.
Check your motive.
Check your intent.
And if you know that it's true, stop self-censoring.
Stop being a coward.
And you know what?
You might find yourself going through life with a bunch of other people who aren't self-censoring, and you realize, hey, this isn't half bad.
It's just a few people who are running from the Democratic nominee and their complicit media pricks.
Alright, I'll see you next week.
Hopefully it helps.
Do the exercise.
No covering the mouth.
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