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Wes Huff & 'High IQ' YounHoon Kim Christian Apologetics | Know More News w/ Adam Green feat. Gnostic Informant
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What's up, guys?
Adam Green here with No More News.
Thank you all for joining me today, Tuesday, July 1st, 2025.
Got a huge show for you guys today.
Gonna be debunking some Christian apologetics from Wes Huff and the high IQ South Korean Jun-hoon Kim.
Joining me to do that is the legendary Gnostic Informa back on the show.
What's up, Neil?
Thanks for watching.
What's going on, man?
I got the Adam Targaryen flag going on here.
I call him Adam Targaryen when we're in private conversations.
Blood of the Dragon, it's true.
And I was literally wearing the Dan's dragon shirt this morning on my stream.
Yeah, and the books, they have pale skin, purple eyes, sometimes green, and white or really, really blonde to almost gray hair.
So I was just like, dude, that's fucking Adam, you know?
And they're always tall and Scandinavian looking.
Yep, Targaryen.
Team Dragon for sure.
Yeah.
So you've had some, done some videos about Wes Huff.
He wants to attack you on a video, or not attacked you, but like said you were wrong about something and then had to retract and pull down his video.
And then this is the Christian apologetics.
He responded to the Viking princess Alvie here that we all love so much.
Amazing video by her, by the way.
And everything she says in this video is 100% correct.
Right.
And then he comes in, retweets her, and says, don't worry, Christian, she's wrong.
Christianity didn't adopt any of these things from pagan Christmas Easter.
We're going to get into his info.
Just assertions, too.
He doesn't bring any evidence.
He doesn't actually show.
He doesn't make any arguments of why she's wrong.
He doesn't actually demonstrate anything.
He just asserts the opposite is true.
And then, of course, all the Christians are cool with that.
That's all they want.
They just want their priests to tell him.
You guys are right.
It's all going to be good.
You're all going to heaven.
Just believe in this.
Follow the Jewish prophets.
And everything's fine.
That's what they want.
That's the power they have over us, the people like Wes Huff.
He has power over us because the people want him to be right.
They don't want us to be right.
We have the uphill battle.
Yeah, they like their confirmation bias.
They want to be told that Jesus is true and then have the scholarly PhD, although he's not a PhD yet.
Tell them that they're right.
Tell them what they want to hear.
And then this guy, the highest IQ in the world, this South Korean, who also blocked you recently because you were tweeting about him, such a psyop.
He's been saying, I'm the highest IQ in the world and Jesus is God.
And 100,000 likes.
And all the Christians are like, boom, mic drop.
What now, atheist?
Now Joe Rogan's following him.
Yeah, now Joe Rogan's following him too.
Oh my God.
Right, Joe Rogan following him.
I called him.
I called it.
Remember, I told you that Joe Rogan's going to have him on.
He's going to follow him.
He's going to feed right into it.
I don't even know how you knew that because then we're going to show the tweet.
Just today or yesterday, he said Joe Rogan is following him.
He goes, everybody tweeted him so he has me on the show.
And they probably did.
And I guarantee you, he's probably going there right now.
He's probably already scheduled there.
Probably already scheduled.
So we're going to start with the video from Alvie, the Sweden wholesome pagan Viking girl.
She did her video here.
It's got 3.3,000 likes.
She says, almost all Christian traditions have European pagan origins.
And I think I have to stop sharing screen and then redo it with the audio first and get that turned on.
And here we go.
We'll watch that and then we'll do Wes's response.
Holy water, marriage, and Sunday worship.
These are all actually pagan.
Sunday worship was originally the pagan.
So holy wa-we'll play the whole thing.
Yeah, yeah, play the whole thing one by one.
One by one.
Break down each claim.
Holy water, marriage, and Sunday worship.
These are all actually pagan.
Sunday worship was originally the pagan day of the sun.
The early church swaps it with the Sabbath to win combats.
Holy water, candles, wedding rings, and bells were all taken from pagan purification and fertility rites.
The dates, the tree, and basically everything we associate with Christmas.
It's borrowed from Roman Sartanalia and Stromanicule.
Easter is named after the pagan goddess Eostra.
Eggs and bunnies are ancient pagan fertility symbols.
Even Halloween is just a Christianized version of Sarwin.
The ancient Celtic festival of the dead.
The pagan soul of Europe has never and never will be extinguished.
Never extinguish it.
Marriage and Sunday worship.
Never.
And rabbis.
You know, there was a good meme about that where someone was like, oh, we destroyed paganism.
And then someone was like, actually, no, paganism.
And they showed a picture of a church being devoured by like ivy and trees and roots and beads.
Because nature is paganism.
You can't destroy nature.
Whether people believe in paganism or not does not make it true.
You know what I mean?
It just persists without anyone.
You don't need to believe it or not.
So in comes Christian apologists posing as a historian and a scholar, Wes Huff, who just blew up recently because he had the debate with Billy Carson, who is a clown, and then got on Joe Rogan and got boosted by all of the MAGA right-wing podcasters, basically.
And he's got some graphics here.
He says, so basically, every one of her points is historically incorrect, wrong.
When you actually look at the origins of these, see my infographics on why Christmas and Easter aren't pagan by scrolling down here.
But the real problem here is that European paganism as a category isn't actually a thing.
You don't have any history, pagans.
Right.
And when she says European paganism, she just means all of the European different religions.
Like she's not saying that there was only one called European paganism.
So this is like a straw man in itself.
Right.
Old Norse, Celtic, Hellenistic paganism, and Druidistic beliefs were completely different from one another.
Nobody said they weren't.
Right.
And are completely contradictory in their belief and practice.
Again, that's an article I noticed about this post.
He's not dealing with what she said at all.
He's like completely skidding past everything she said and making other claims and making other arguments based on what he wants her to say or what he's interpreting her as saying.
It's very odd the way he's arguing this.
Yeah, was her video that there's only one type of European paganism and that all the different ancestral faiths are all the same?
She was very specific.
She was specific.
She mentioned saw wine for Halloween.
She mentioned Eostre for Easter.
She was extremely specific on each point.
She mentioned Saturnalia.
She didn't say Saturnalia is the same as saw wine.
But like what?
So West was your brain full out of your head, dude.
What is what is this post, dude?
You've been said you've said nothing so far.
There was not a single argument made here against anything she said yet.
No, look, the word saw wine doesn't even come in his whole entire post.
It's the same thing about saw wine.
And by the way, so she got 3,000 likes.
He gets 5,000 likes because all the Christians are like, wait a second.
I thought Jesus is real and all these religions come from Jesus.
And are you telling me that it's copied from paganism?
Like that would debunk Christianity.
So they have to lie.
They have to say, no, it didn't come from paganism because then it would disprove their religion.
Hold on.
We got a super chat.
Mm-hmm.
50.
Nice.
It is.
Always great to have Neil on.
Thank you for the big dono.
I didn't get to see it, but cool, cool.
Is that all it said?
Yeah.
Oh, cool, cool.
It said good guest.
Okay.
And what else does he say here?
So completely contradictory in their belief and practice.
What does that have to do with their video?
Nothing.
Nobody said that all the different pagan religions were the same.
Exactly.
And that's what I'm saying.
She was going point by point.
And his response was, well, they're not all the same.
That's like you going, I think the sky is blue.
And I'm like, well, there's different kind of clouds.
You know, there's condensed clouds.
There's more spread out clouds.
What did that have to do with what you said?
Nothing.
It was like, like I said, it sounds like his brain fell out of his head when I'm reading this.
Yeah.
He's just seething with hatred for anything European that's not a Jewish religion, basically.
Right.
In comes to sweep.
Look at this point.
It's even worse.
And let's not pretend that all these groups were getting along with one another before those pesky Christians showed up.
Did she say anything about all the pagans getting along with each other?
No.
This has nothing to do with anything in her video at all.
Once again, we're off to a horrible start.
Nothing he said here addresses anything she said at all.
The holy water thing never got brought up.
The sour wine never got brought up.
The saturn elephant never got brought up.
The eggs never got brought up.
Nothing she said has yet to be even mentioned in this post so far.
Is that all he says?
No.
And then he says Europe was in a constant state of warfare with pagan infighting being a fairly common issue.
Okay.
And there's never been Christian infighting.
Did he get this from the chat GPT write this for him?
Because it doesn't even make sense.
I know.
It's like he didn't even watch her video.
It's almost like he went to chat GPT.
Give me a bad review of paganism.
Yeah.
And then this is what he got.
And then he just posted it.
And what blows my mind is the response to it.
How many likes you say it got?
5,000.
5,000 people.
1,000 bookmarks.
Because they're all going to go back to it and study it.
Because they're going to.
This is their leader.
It's insane.
People have no idea what they're following.
It reminds me of earlier today when I was talking to Rachel Andrews'wife.
And she was like, oh, the triune God of the Old Testament.
And I was like, show me where in the Old Testament it talks about a triune God.
And then she was like, but this church father said this.
What is that?
What kind of argument is that?
What is that?
This is the same type of thing, but it's a different topic.
Well, someone said so.
They'll be like, Wes Huff is such a genius.
He totally debunked that dumb pagan.
That's like what the Christians are telling themselves.
Yeah.
When they see something like this.
Yep.
Hold on.
Let's see.
Do we have this up on the screen too?
Well, we're not going to go through all those comments quite yet.
Because I want to go straight to his infographics.
Yeah.
And let's see here.
I think I'm going to have to switch it again.
Wes Huff Easter.
We'll do Easter.
Let's do Christmas first.
Christmas is not a pagan holiday.
Okay, let's do this.
And you've done many videos on this.
You've done debates on this as well.
Documentaries deep into all of the paganism that was incorporated into Christianity.
Yep.
And I'm just going to get this up again.
Entire screen.
Boom.
All right.
I got something to say about the Sunday thing too.
I got something pulled up for that too.
Oh yeah, we'll do that one next.
Yeah, yeah.
So Christmas is not a pagan holiday.
Whole lot of words here.
Let's see.
Celebrating the incarnation of Jesus at Christmas is a long-standing Christian tradition spanning over millennia.
That's it?
Not two millennia?
Although there has clearly been growth lower in traditions added to our modern practice of the holiday, The accusation of substantial pagan roots falls apart.
The accusation of substantial pagan roots falls apart under historical inspection.
All the traditional pagan associations and connections with Christmas, when truly put under the microscope, turn out to be themselves more fiction than fact.
Like...
Okay.
Let's see you back that up now.
Reclaim.
The date of Christmas was borrowed from pagan festivals, from Sol Invictus, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
First of all, I think he cites Michael Jones inspiring philosophy for this.
Why are scholars citing people who aren't scholars?
What is going on in the world?
Christian apologists.
Wait, what the hell?
And by the way, I destroyed Michael Jones on this.
he yeah the other video i did the other person i destroyed on this topic was wes who i don't know if you if anyone gets a chance to watch my christmas video where i talk about wes's uh claims on Saturnalia.
It was, he was so far off reality.
He was trying to make the claim that sources about Saturnalia come late, later than Christianity.
When we have, we have Pliny, Macrobius, or Macrobius is a later one.
We have Virgil, Ovid, Cicero.
We have all these sources from the first century talking about giving gifts at Saturnalia and decorating with greenery.
All of them predating even when the gospels were even out yet, let alone when Christmas becomes a thing in the Roman Empire.
So, like, that was just crazy that he said that.
But yeah, continue.
Go ahead.
So, which documentary before we continue on?
Let's see.
The one I did.
So, that one, the one I read about Wes was actually on MythVision's channel.
But if you go down, go to GoToVideos.
This is.
I'm on videos and popular.
So, I think that's one of the most popular.
It's actually, let's see.
Brumalia.
There he is.
That's one of them.
Yeah, that's one.
That's Saturnalia.
Yep.
That's one of them.
And then the other one, if you want to hear me rip about Wes Huff, go to MythVision's channel.
And there's a video where we rip apart Wes Huff.
And there's a second segment in that video.
It's about his Christmas claims.
And you have a good one about Jesus and Dionysus.
Well, also more pagan incorporation in there.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's see.
December 25th.
The claim is the date of Christmas is borrowed from pagan festivals like Sol Invictus and or Saturnalia.
Okay, reality.
Sol Invictus was not placed on 1225 until 354 AD when the Philokalian Philokalian calendar records this, but doesn't specify any festival with regards to sun worship.
Prior to this, the Julio-Claudian Fasti inscription says sun festivals were on August 8th, 9th, 28th, and December 11th and maybe October 19th.
The calendar says Emperor Aurelian.
The Fausti is first century BC.
So this would have no bearing on what was happening in the third and fourth century.
This is way, he's though that was a weird little, I'm actually, I'm actually proud of him for actually citing a source for once, but it was like a weird attempt to try to like gaslight because the Fausti has the Fausti mentions Saturnalia, but the December 25th claim he's dodging it.
The real truth behind the matter is this.
The December 25th thing comes from the Mithraic Sol Invictus cults.
And in the Mithraic cults, they were dedicating temples to Mithra on solstices.
So not just the winter solstice, which was fixed on December 25th.
Just in case anyone doesn't know, the Julian calendar marked December 25th as the winter solstice.
Also, later on, the Gregorian calendar moved it to the 22nd, 23rd or whatever.
21st.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They moved it back.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
The point is, so when Aurelian in the year 274 dedicates the temple of Sol Invictus, he does it on December 25th.
That is when that becomes a feast date.
The next time we see evidence for this feast date is correctly, as he points out, in 354 AD in the Philokalian calendar.
So we have 274 AD, and then it's mentioned again in 354 AD.
But guess what he doesn't mention here?
He doesn't mention here that Christmas was not a liturgical calendar holiday in Christianity until after that.
Well, they weren't saying Jesus was born on that day until after this either.
No.
So this still predates the Jesus born on Christmas.
Exactly.
Right.
Exactly.
So what he will say, and what a lot of Christians will say, is that they think Hippolytus was the first person to propose the idea that Christ was born on the winter solstice.
The problem with that is Hippolytus is only one person and there was dozens of people proposing dates for Christ's birthday.
Hippolytus, let's say he did do that in 222 AD.
That does not mean that it was a liturgical calendar yet.
That means that nobody would know this unless you were studying Hippolytus' works.
By 274 AD, when Aurelians dedicates the temple of Sol Invictus on December 25th, that had nothing to do with Christianity.
Christianity decided after that, they were going to go with Hippolytus' proposed dates.
So you be the judge.
Did they borrow from the pagans or was it a coincidence?
I don't care what you decide there.
The point is that Sol Invictus was a national liturgical feast before Christmas was.
End of story.
Not only that, not only that, let me just pull up one more.
If you don't mind, let me just pull something up on.
Sure, while you're pulling that up, look at this.
He says the winter solstice had no festive significance to ancient Romans.
There were no celebrations planned for the date and they disagreed on when it was.
The Julian calendar does say 1225, but Pliny the Elder says 1226 in Columala.
Is that how you say that?
Columola says 1223.
That's pretty close, Wes.
And I can't.
Wait, wait, what does it say?
The winter solstice had no festive or there were no celebrations planned.
And when they disagreed on it, the Julian Calendar does say 1225.
Okay, this is very misleading right here.
Pliny the Elder is making a point about how the fixed calendar is flawed and how the solstice drifts to the 26th.
He's not saying the solstice is on the 26th.
The solstice is still on the calendar as a fixed date, the 25th.
And how do we know that they followed this?
Because we saw the Mithraic cults dedicating their temples on solstices on December 25th.
Not only that, I want to show you something real quick.
Look at this.
This is from Plutarch.
So this is like game over right here.
This is way, this is centuries before.
I'm going to do it.
Yes, I'm doing it right now.
Centuries.
Centuries before all of this.
So we can argue about Sol Invictus.
We can argue about Christmas.
That's all third, fourth century, right?
This is the late first century.
Plutarch writes this.
For this reason, that Isis, when she perceived that she was pregnant, put upon herself an amulet on the sixth day of Faofi, about the time of the winter solstice, she gave birth to Harpocrates.
Imperfect and immature.
That's December 25th.
This is during the Julian calendar time, only a century after it, too.
So it barely drifted by this time.
So he's saying about the time of December 25th, Horace is born.
Hippocrates means Horace the child in Greek.
Yeah, when the sun is winter solstice, and they're trying to ignore all this with this little nonsense about, oh, he says that it's the 26th.
Notice how he never brings up Plutarch.
Want to know why?
Because imagine if he brought this up to try to refute it.
What are you going to say?
What are you going to say?
You know what I've heard Christians do?
Dan McClellan, when I showed him this, he said, but it says around the time of the winter solstice, not on it.
Oh, come on.
Therefore, we can't use it.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
And it's so ridiculous because you're thinking about could this could Christians be inspired by this?
Yes or no.
The answer is yes.
Horus is the divine child.
The only thing that's important about Horus is his birth.
That's it.
They were inspired.
They were adopting the already in place pagan holidays and then making them be about Jesus so that so that they could be convert to be Christians.
This was their playbook.
This is their playbook.
Pope Gregory in the early 7th century wrote a letter to the bishop in London and told him, do not destroy their pagan temples.
All you got to do is take the idol out, put a cross in there and sprinkle some holy water on it and let them continue to do their rituals.
He even says, let them continue to do their own rights.
That's why you see Celtic.
When you see Irish Catholicism, it looks way different than Greek Orthodoxy.
It looks different than German Catholicism.
It looks different than Spanish Catholicism because they all have their own local cults that they're trying.
They're all adopting their own local shit.
It's which is paganism.
That's paganism.
Jesus isn't rooted in Sol Invictus like he is the sun.
And don't isn't there depictions of Sol Invictus that has like the 12 astronomical signs around them to like they have Jesus.
And all the depictions of Jesus with the halos coming out from behind his head as well.
Yeah, they have there's pictures of Jesus in the guise of Sol Invictus.
Here, I have it right here.
Want to see it?
Here we go.
That's Christ as Sol Invictus in the tomb of the Julii.
Oops.
The tomb of the Julii.
That's where like some of the Caesar's family are buried in the Vatican Necropolis.
But you can see, look at this is the sun, right?
That's, look at this is like some like synagogue.
That's Sol Invictus with the halo.
But this is, there's another one right here.
But this is Jesus.
And how do you know this is Sol Invictus and it's not just Jesus with the halo?
Because he's got the white horses.
That's a Helios image right there.
Well, they have Jesus with the white horse too.
Yeah, that's what they're doing.
They're copying Jesus as Helios, as the sun.
Seven rays.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Watch this.
You can see it.
With the most, the most, one, two, three, four, five.
And that's when that one's cut off.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
The seven rayed God.
You can read for yourself.
Read Julian the Apostate.
Him to Helios.
He calls him the seven rayed God.
So why does that matter?
Because look at this.
You see Jesus with the seven rays right here.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
Jesus is copying the seven rayed God, Helios.
Sol Invictus.
And so the fact that his birthday becomes the winter solstice.
Horus is the sun too, by the way.
It's just so obvious that they're adopting the cultural milieu.
Sol Invictus had the first.
274 AD was the first official holiday of December 25th.
Even if Christians proposed, let's say some Christian proposed December 25th before that, they decided to go with that proposal because of Sol Invictus and its popularity.
Otherwise, why didn't they go with the other proposals?
My buddy Liam Jarrett in the comments is saying that the seven rays is because there were seven visible heavenly planets.
Yeah, the seven seven heavens.
It's very Platonist.
It's very.
Yeah, this is like overlaps paganism and Judaism and Christianity.
They all sort of believed in this.
Another thing she said in that video that he doesn't even address.
And I don't think he ever addresses at all.
But this is from an this is from a peer reviewed book about Sol Invictus called Constantine in the Divine Mind.
If you let me share this real quick.
And she just vindicates what she said about Saturday and Sunday.
It says right here, the progressive association of Christian and pagan monotheism during this period was certainly made easier by Christianity striking similarities to Roman sun cults like that of Mithras.
Both Christianity and Mithraism featured a revealed doctrine, an initiated brotherhood, a communal meal, a promise of intimacy with the supreme God.
Christian churches typically built built to face the rising sun and Christians worship on the day of Sunday.
These similarities and others.
Some scholars have been prepared to conclude that Roman pagans have seen Christianity as yet another manifestation of solar monotheism.
So, like, there you go.
And you can just see this is the this is the Christian playbook from day one to try to win people over.
You sort of adopt their culture and wherever you're at, wherever, wherever place you're at, you adopt their culture.
And this is what we always see, too.
The Christians will go, oh, there didn't come from paganist religions.
That's zeitgeist.
That's they always try to say.
Zeitgeist got like a couple of things wrong.
And so they just dismiss it all and go.
The scholars say scholars like Wes Huff say.
Right.
Christian apologists lie about this because they have to Saturnalia.
Next, he says Saturnalia was never on 1225.
Macrobius says Saturnalia began 14 days before January, which comes out to December 17th using Roman.
And that's the other thing, too, is you want to get specific about exact days.
There's all these different calendars and there's drifts and stuff also.
December 17th using Roman calendar dates, he says it lasted for three days.
But according to the fasti inscriptions, it lasted to 24th during the days of the Republic.
Can you go to my video really quick?
And I want to show them how silly this is really quick.
Which one?
Go to my video, the one that says Brumalia, and I'm going to skip ahead to the section where it says Saturnalia.
And I just want people to reel.
I wish I could let you not have ads, but whatever.
Just when you skip it, it might play another ad again when that happens.
But this will be worth it.
This will be worth it.
Okay, so which part did you want me to skip to?
Go to the part where it says Saturnalia.
I can't see your screen right now.
I know.
I'm fine right now.
Is it towards the end?
I think so.
I see Sol Invictus.
I don't see a Saturnalia.
There's no Saturnalia at all?
No chapter called Saturnalia?
At the bottom, there's winter solstice festivals?
Maybe that's it.
Okay.
And there should be a section in there where I'm showing the verse, the passages.
I'm showing the actual sources on Saturnalia and what they say about Saturnalia.
And there is a reason why I want people to...
to see this i want people to see what the sources actually say um let's see oh wait uh let's see can you go slow so i can keep going winter solstice festivals y'all deny keep going there it is macrobius of saturnalia okay um play that Go right there.
Just set at the summer solstice when he attains his group.
Oh, wait, no, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Okay, pause it.
Pause it.
Go down.
Keep your cursor over there and just keep going over.
And I want to find where it says the.
I can't.
Oh, shit.
I can't see what you're looking at.
Go on.
Keep going over.
Keep going.
To the right.
Keep going.
Get out of this section of Saturday night.
That's the wrong one.
It's the wrong one.
Okay.
Brumalia.
Yeah, keep going.
Keep going.
Christmas spirit.
It's pagan, bro.
That might be Puritans, Saint Nick, Internal Father, Severin Dynasty.
Oh, my God.
Keep going.
Mythros, Sol Invictus.
Okay, go back.
Go back to its pagan, bro.
It's pagan, bro.
Okay.
Right there.
I think this is it.
Yes.
Play that one.
Oh, shit.
I don't know what we may say.
Okay, forget about it.
I'll just explain that.
I'll just explain it.
So, okay, my bad.
I should have been prepared for this.
The point is, there's passages about Saturnalia.
I wish I knew where it was in the video.
Where they describe what's happening on Saturnalia.
And these are sources from, there's our sources from the early, from like 3rd century BC, 2nd century BC, 1st century BC, 1st century AD, that all talk about it's the Saturnalia festival.
Yay, everyone's jolly and merry, and they're all decorating their houses with greenery and they're giving gifts to one another.
What am I going to get this year for Saturnalia?
What does that sound like?
Giving gifts like cut the bullshit right now.
People who act like the dates matter because Saturnalia ended on the 23rd and December and Christmas starts on the 25th.
What about 12 days of Christmas?
What about how many Christmas parties have you been in in early December for like your job or something?
December 12th, you go to a Christmas party, right?
The season is what we're talking about.
The season of the winter, the winter solstice season itself is the thing in question.
Those rituals that we've been doing forever since the Roman times, decorating your houses with greenery, shutting down businesses until the new year.
This is what the Romans did.
They even had the Janus festival was January 1st, like the New Year festival.
So Saturnalia would blend into the Janus festival.
And in the middle of it was the winter solstice.
That's the middle of it all.
And they would give gifts and they would get all they would do this thing called the mock king ritual, where they would take the king of Saturnalia be chosen to be king for the day.
And guess what they would do?
They would say, you're the king, you're the king for the day, even though you're a slave or some sort of plebeian rank.
And they would give you honorary of the dick just for that one day.
You live like a king.
Well, guess what they found in Germany during Christmastide?
They did this thing called the Fool's Day, where they took the people from the lowly ranks of society in Germany and in England.
These Germanic people were doing the exact same thing that we found in Saturnalia.
You cannot make this stuff up.
That is too specific of a ritual.
You know what I mean?
It'd be like me saying, it would be like you have a festival where somebody every year they find a brown cup and they fill it with a specific kind of Chardonnay.
And then they give it to a person who has bald.
That's the ritual.
Now, I just named very specific things.
Brown cup filled with Chardonnay, give it to a bald guy.
And then you find a thousand years later, imagine a thousand years later, you find another ritual in another place where they have the brown cup, they fill it with Chardonnay, and they give it to a bald guy on the same time of the year, same week of the year.
Wouldn't you have to conclude at that point that one is copying from the other?
There's no way that somehow by chance these two things came up on their own.
I agree.
It's just nonsense.
See what else he says here.
Okay, let's see.
Father Christmas.
Father Christmas, surprisingly, predates Santa Claus, but he is not a pagan deity.
Instead, he was a medieval personification of Christmas.
Who said anything about Father Christmas at all?
Yeah, she didn't say anything about it in the video.
I didn't.
Who gives a shit about Father Christmas?
He's just throwing in random stuff.
He's just throwing in random stuff that makes no sense.
He made this before to her video.
He didn't make this to debunk her video.
Yeah.
Santa.
I don't care about Santa.
I don't care about Father Christmas.
He didn't mention that.
I mean, I would bet.
I don't know a lot about Odin, but I would bet that there was probably a lot of Odin iconography being borrowed onto Father Christmas.
I would bet.
I'm not going to die on that hill, but I would be very, very shocked if there wasn't some sort of Odinic background to Christmas in Germany.
Right.
Okay, so she did mention Christmas trees, though.
The claim Christmas trees find their origin in Druid and pagan practices of bringing pine trees into one's house to ward off nature spirits.
The reality, Christmas trees only go back to the 16th century in Europe, the first mention of Christmas trees.
Okay, well, she didn't say that they had Christmas trees in the third century.
She didn't say the fact is, is that we, why do we have Christmas trees?
It comes from paganism.
So this isn't debunking that anyway.
Yeah.
And another thing, it's true.
She's admitting it's right.
It does come from pagans.
I know that's the weird thing.
And by the way, it's also a fact that people took green trees during the winter solstice during their and brought them in their house.
People took green, any vegetation.
What is it?
What is a, what kind of tree is a Christmas tree?
It's evergreen.
What's the other one?
Pine, right?
What do those things do in the wintertime?
They stay green.
They stay green.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So why wouldn't you expect people to take pine trees and bring them in their house during Saturnalia?
It's green.
It's just the only difference is if he came more central during Christmas time, the Christmas tree became a thing.
Whereas the Saturnalia people just thought of any greenery counts.
But it's just common sense at the end of the day.
You know?
Okay, so now he's got one more graphic here on.
So where does December 25th come from if it's not pagan?
Very important, too, that they never said Jesus.
They don't even, the Bible doesn't say Jesus is born on this day.
They had all the church fathers had to do all this like math and you know, detective work to try to figure it out, right?
So 170 to 235, Hippolytus of Rome wrote here we go.
Here we go.
What do you say?
170.
Daniel.
He's such a liar.
What did he say?
170.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
He's 170.
So he's being sneaky.
That's when he was born.
He wrote this, but he could have been honest.
Guess when he wrote this 222.
Now, here's another thing that he didn't write here.
He's a liar.
Wes is a fucking liar.
So is Dan McClellan, by the way.
I caught him doing this.
And so is History for Atheist Tim O'Neill.
All Three of them are liars.
You want to know why?
Because they all bring this up, but you know what?
None of them tell you that if you actually read the scholarship on this particular text, it does not exist.
They lost it.
It's a proposed possibility that Hippolytus wrote this.
We do not have an actual text where Hippolytus says Christ was born on December 25th.
So it's a later Christian text that's claiming to cite it.
Yes.
And here's the reason why the reason why we know this.
We found these tables in Rome with a statue of Hippolytus.
And on the tables, there's different mathematical guesses of when Christ was born.
One of them is in summer.
One of them is in the fall.
One of them was December 25th with your solstice.
That right there was, we found that.
And so Christians later ignored the first two that he proposed and just went, oh, look, he wrote this thing on this on this table.
Therefore, Hippolytus probably wrote that Christ was born on December 25th without any evidence, without any sources.
And then there's another one that we found that was forged, which was proven later, was like a 13th century manuscript that they forged in Hippolytus' name.
We have no clear evidence that Hippolytus wrote it.
But I do this all the time.
I'm willing to grant that he did.
Let's say he did propose December 25th.
He also proposed two other dates too.
Don't forget about that.
What does that have to do with when Christmas became an official holiday?
Nothing.
It takes a whole other 100 years for Christians to make Christmas a liturgical holiday after Solinvictus.
That's the big takeaway.
They never admit this.
They never talk about this.
They always try, they compare apples to oranges.
They don't compare apples to apples.
So on one hand, they're looking for the earliest possible mention of December 25th, even if it's not in the sources, earliest possible mention, Hippolytus, 222.
Then on the other hand, when it comes to Solindictus, they don't look for the earliest possible mention.
They look for the earliest confirmed hardcore date, which is the 355 calendar.
And then they ignore, they ignore Aurelian's feast on 274.
Why?
Your guess is as good as mine.
They just feel like it.
Because it's so dishonest how they come up with these dates.
But at the end of the day, I've talked to many experts on this, even people who are on the side of that don't think pagans are influencing Christians.
They all admit that you cannot say that Christmas came before Sol Invictus.
They all admit this.
Well, I mean, I think it's important to note also the Bible never dates when the savior, the most important person ever to live, is born and it doesn't mention the date.
And not only that, but like not until the Gospel of Matthew, like 80 years after the supposed birth of Jesus.
None of the intertestimonial Paul's letters never mention virgin birth, Mary, Star of Bethlehem, Manger, none of that.
Neither does any of the other books like Hebrews, James, Peter, none of that.
Not until, not even in Mark, the first gospel doesn't have any of the birth narrative, the nativity story, not until Matthew.
And then not until none of the disciples ever said, oh, let's celebrate when he was born.
Not until hundreds of years later, did they have to do math to try to figure it out?
And then coincidentally, it's all they're linking it to Sol Invictus and Saturnalia.
But here's the crazy part, though.
Here's the crazy part.
We already have Plutarch talking about the birth of Hippocrates on the winter solstice, centuries before all this nonsense happened.
It's over with for you, Christians.
The winter solstice as the birth of God is already pagan.
Whether you like it or not, the pagans were first to do this.
By the way, I found the part of my video that I want to show everybody.
Oh, okay.
And I already got it ready to go, too.
All right.
Let me remove mine and put yours up there.
Ready?
Yep.
Here you watch this.
When I retire to this garden summer house, I fancy myself 100 miles away from my villa and take a special pleasure in it at the feast of the Saturnalia.
When by the license of that festive season, every other part of my house resounds with my servants' mirth.
Thus, I neither interrupt their amusement nor they my studies.
Pliny the younger.
A latisternium was ordered.
The senators prepared the couch and a public banquet for a day and a night.
The cry of Saturnalia resounded through the city, and the people were ordered to make that day a festival and observe it as such forever.
Livy.
To Umber, you have sent me as a present for the Saturnalia, Umber, everything which you have received during the past five days.
12 notebooks, three tablets each, seven toothpicks.
Here's the guest with which came a sponge, a tablecloth, a wine cup, a half bushel of beans.
This is first century.
There's a basket of Piscina wine.
There came also a small Syrian figs, some candy plums, and a heavy pot of figs from Libya.
They were a present worth, I believe, scarcely 30 small coins altogether.
And they were brought by eight tall Syrian slaves.
How much more convenient would it have been for one slave to have brought without trouble five pounds weight of silver?
All Syrian slaves.
Greeks and Romans were no exception to venerate.
They were marking the movement of the sun in Pompeii at the temple.
Maybe not.
Okay, there is more, but the point is there's a whole bunch of sources from the first century where it talks about gift giving and merriment and like all that stuff.
But yeah, you get the point.
Just in those two sources, you see enough right there.
Hey, they closed down businesses and we give it to this year.
I got, I got, I got a parrot for my friend and I got a notebook for my other friend and I got some some olives from this guy and a glass of wine from that guy.
Like that's that feels like Christmas.
The festive season.
And guess what?
There's no other time of the year.
There's no other time of the year from any religion.
You can't point to anything in Hinduism.
You can't point to anything in Persian.
Actually, y'all deny them.
That's another whole other thing.
But you can't not point to any other time of the year where they close the businesses off and everybody just goes and drinks and gets married and gives away gifts, except for winter solstice time of the year.
That's it.
Let's see what else he says here about the 25th.
Sextus Julius Africanus, the origin of December 25th as the date for Christmas finds its beginning in the late second and early third century with historian African.
Late second is bullshit.
He's lying.
It's third century.
There's not a single mention of December 25th in any Christian sources in anything in the second century.
So there's no source from 190 or 195.
All of it's post-200, which is third century.
So he just flat out lied there.
He just flat out lied there.
I'm asking chat GPT to see what it says, too.
What is the first historical reference to December 25th for Christmas in history?
Let's see what it says here.
I bet you mentions the calendar.
I'll guess.
The calendar.
Early fourth century.
Told you.
354 by the calendar, the Phyllocan calendar, right?
Fylakian calendar.
I told you this.
They're lying to people and getting away with it.
They're just lying.
This is a sextus Africanus is a proposed date from later Christians.
So is Hippolytus.
Hippolytus and Africanus are proposed dates, which look, look what it says, which may later inspire the idea as the date of creation of Jesus' conception.
Now, this is important.
Why is this important for what Wes said?
Wes didn't tell you that what Julius Africanus actually wrote.
What Julius Africanus actually wrote was that the date of creation was on March 25th.
So what Christians later do is they add nine months to March 25th.
That leads us, that brings us to December 25th.
And then they conclude that that's the birth of Christ and then assume that Africanus thought this without any text to prove it.
And you know what I think is that they already wanted to place him on December 25th.
So they said, well, what's nine months before that?
Oh, that's the creation date of creation.
Exactly.
That's how he calculated that.
So they reverse engineered it.
Exactly.
And look at the Hippolytus one.
Yeah.
Early third century.
By the way, notice how none of them say second century.
Wes just lies about that and gets away with it.
They're all third century.
221, like I said, I said 222.
I was off by a year.
The other one's early third century.
It doesn't say second century.
Lies.
It's disputed and possibly a later interpretation.
Exactly.
That's why I told you.
That's the one I mentioned before.
It's a 13th century manuscript we found.
And there's no mention of anyone talking.
The reason why we know it's a forgery is because if Hippolytus did write this, then how come nobody mentions Hippolytus says Christ was born on December 25th anywhere?
It doesn't make sense.
Christians don't care about things making sense.
They care about whatever they can find, and then they just lie about shit.
They just lie.
They ignore this.
You mentioned this too.
Clement of Alexandria mentions various days for Jesus' birth, but none of them were December 25th.
Yes, this is another thing that during the time of the third century, Christians were throwing dates out like crazy.
They did not decide on December 25th, like Wes is trying to tell you.
They did not decide until the fourth century on the liturgical date.
And so the fact that here's another thing: there's another, there's sources from the late third century.
I'm trying to think of which one it is.
John Chrysostom, I think, is one of them.
Late third century.
And guess what they're saying?
We don't have a birthday for Christ.
Late third century, there are Christian sources saying we don't have a birthday for Christ.
But wait a minute.
If Wes was correct, that makes no sense.
They forgot the memo that they already had a date.
The evidence is so strongly against an early Christian date.
It's not even funny.
And every year during, I can't believe it's July and I'm doing this already.
Every year during Christmas time, I lose my mind.
Yeah.
Topic.
I lose my mind.
Do they're debunking videos?
Actually, pagans, you're wrong.
That's what's debunked.
But they get helped by these bullshit scholars like Dan McClellan and wannabe scholars like Tim O'Neill.
They get help from them.
And they don't realize they're destroying the discourse.
They're making people actually think that pagans are borrowing from Christians, which never happened ever.
Ever.
Based on my calculations from his reading of Luke and Matthew's Gospels, Africanus concluded that Jesus was conceived on March 25th for the birth.
Then he counted nine months.
Told you.
Told you.
Nine months ahead, which landed him on the date of December 25th.
He counted nine months ahead.
Show me the source for that.
Doesn't exist.
This is their own theories.
They're just pretending that this happened.
Meanwhile, we have pagan sources that show, oh, it's the 26th or the 24th or right around this time.
And they were celebrating.
Yes.
Meanwhile, you actually have first century pagan sources from Plutarch talking about the birth of the divine child, Harpocrates, on the winter solstice, which is December 25th at that time.
You can't make this shit up.
It's like we're in the Twilight Zone when it comes to this topic.
Yeah, and they had this belief that you're supposed to, you're born on the day that you died.
That's another thing.
So Dan McClellan, I pulled this card for this.
Dan McClellan's a liar on multiple platforms, his own channel, and he tended on Danny Jones.
He repeated himself on Danny Jones.
He told Danny Jones, and he says it's on his own channel, that there was this idea in Roman biography writers that when an important person died, they would say that on the day they died was actually the day they were born.
Guess how many sources do this?
Guess how many examples you can find that do this?
I want to see if you're missing a lot if they're later on.
Zero.
There's not a single text that you can point to where an author in a biography of some writer says that this person died, therefore he was born on the day he died.
So it's just something they made up later on.
Something that people are just making up right now.
This doesn't exist.
Oh, okay.
So there's only one precedent for this.
In the book of Gen or in the book of Exodus, it says, and Moses during his 120th year died.
So what have people like Dan and Bart and all these idiot Divinity School scholars do?
They decided that that was enough evidence to conclude that the day Jesus died was the day he was conceived.
This sounds like this sounds crazy, doesn't it?
This sounds crazy.
It is.
It's totally made up.
It's totally made up.
There is not a single Roman biography that exists where a person died and the author wrote, they were conceived on this day because this is the day they died.
It just is used for Jesus.
That's it.
I do think it's because they reverse engineered it because they wanted to place his birth on the on the 25th.
If he died at the Passover, well, if you're Passover is already close enough to spring equinox, it's pretty much the same time of the year.
So now if you want a cosmic, perfect nine-month gestation period, all you got to do is add nine months to that.
And where do you go?
You wind up on the same day that Sol Invictus is born.
Whoa, this will get a lot of pagans to convert, dude.
Do it.
That's what they were thinking.
A very pagan Christmas.
Now, we got another one on Easter as well, too.
You just mentioned that also.
Yeah.
Pasca or Passover Easter, which Easter is just a pagan ripoff of Passover, basically, right?
So Easter is not a pagan holiday.
That was a claim she made also in the video.
She didn't say that.
She said that the name Easter comes from the goddess Eostre.
That's what she said.
She was very specific, and that is 100% fact.
That is very true.
Where's Easter in the Bible?
Exactly.
The venerable Bede, the English church father, he's the one that tells us this.
Pagans didn't make this up.
Christians told us this.
Bede said, oh, here in England, the Germanic people, they call our Pasca, they call it Easter, after the goddess Eostre.
That's what he says.
They named their Pasca after the goddess Eostre.
So why he thinks he needs to debunk her?
I have no idea because this is true and it's a fact, and she's 100% right.
It's funny, too.
I mean, I know the Eastern Orthodox, they still say it's Pasca Passover.
That's really what Christians are celebrating Passover, like pretty Jewish, right?
Yeah.
And by the way, notice how he's trying, he's trying to debunk the claim.
The only claim that there's the name is from Easter comes from Anglo-Saxon Germanic spring goddess Astara.
However, there's only one source for anything on Astara, and that's a writing from the seventh century by the English monk Saint Bede.
Bede's the one that tells us this, first of all, that's a solid source.
And number two, he's wrong.
There's archaeological, there's no, there would not be like writings on her, but there's there's inscriptions on stone mentioning Astara and Iostre.
She's all over the place.
But you know, who's really done a good job on this was survive the jive.
He's completely shown all the evidence how much Iostre was worshipped in these parts of the world.
This is not some one thing that people, someone made up.
Wes, Wes talks out of his ass, and he's so lucky that Christians don't care if he's right or wrong because he does not, he's not held to the same standard that I'm held to.
If I got something wrong like this, you would see me getting chewed out by people for it.
I can't be wrong.
I can't even afford to be wrong like this because people will immediately start calling me a fraud and I'll immediately get like called out.
But he can just do this.
He can just say shit like this, be wrong, be half correct, half wrong.
No one says anything to him.
They just gets away with it.
And bottom line, she's right.
Then the word Easter does come from a pagan god.
That's what, and that's all she said.
She didn't say that the Greek Pasca was bowered from paganism.
By the way, but you could even, even if she said that, I would defend her because the Hilaria festival, which was happening in Rome in the first century, had a death and resurrection for either Osiris or Addis, where he died for three days and they weeped and mourned for three days from March 22nd to March 25th.
And then on March 25th, they rejoice for the God's resurrection.
So even Easter itself, as before Easter, even Pasca itself has pagan inspiration going on.
I mean, we can debate that all.
They can debate that.
There's also an egg in Passover, too.
There's like a Passover egg at the Passover egg.
And they also have the egg of the Persian, the Persian spring festival.
They have an egg on the table, too.
Eggs are all over the place.
Easter bunnies as well was pagan.
Do you know anything about that?
He denies that here.
I don't know much about.
I know that there's like iconography in question for like late medieval period, stuff like that.
I don't know much about that, to be honest.
But here's the problem.
Here's why I'll back her up on this.
Where in the Bible?
Let's talk about bunnies and eggs.
Right.
Yeah.
So it had to come from somewhere.
It wasn't.
So we have to do, we have to use reasonable deduction here.
We might not have a source for pagans doing things with bunnies and eggs.
That might be, okay, fine.
You got me there.
But if it's not in the Bible, if it has nothing to do with Christianity, it has nothing to do with Orthodox Christianity or Catholic Christianity or the Bible, then it came from somewhere.
Yeah.
What are your options?
It's not Jewish.
It's probably pagan.
They didn't make it up from nothing.
Exactly.
So my theory on that is there was some tradition in these Germanic parts of the world, in France and Germany or whatever, where there was some sort of tradition of coloring eggs and beating bunnies.
By the way, during that time of the year in the spring, I used to live in Buffalo.
It's pretty, it's like the north.
It's the cold north.
And when the, when the, um, when the snow melts, you start seeing a lot of bunnies running around.
And that's their mating season.
So that might have something to do with nature, which would be very fertility.
They breed like rabbits, right?
Yeah.
Springtime and see a lot of bunnies running around.
So I would, I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some local, which would be, by the way, local is pagan.
That's what that is.
Well, if there's a lot, if it's a local tradition, it's pagan.
That's what paganism is.
It's your local ancestral cult.
And you're trying to preserve your ancestors in your memory.
You're trying to preserve their tombs.
You're trying to preserve their honor.
That's the central tenet of paganism, period.
And if so, if they're, if they're preserving bunnies and eggs, they're probably trying to preserve their ancestral tradition.
It's probably pagan.
You can get, you can, I just deduce that from just logical thinking.
Now, you can, we could debate that.
You could say, I don't have concrete sources for that.
Fine.
But you can't say it came from the Bible.
You can't say it's Christian, period.
All right, I'm going to play a couple power chats here and get caught up.
And then we're going to move on to Young Hoon Kim.
Oh, yeah.
Unless you have anything else on the pagan stuff.
Okay, Alvi was right.
Wes Huff, you're wrong.
You should apologize and stop lying about your Christian apologetics.
And by the way, every point she made in that video was true.
So, oh, I kind of want to go to that video and read through and see all the angry Christians like talking trash to us because I'm sure they're there.
We can do that.
I'll look for that right now while I play these super chats.
So let's do these.
Let's get this turned on.
All right.
Appreciate you guys for the support.
You guys are amazing.
Let's see here.
Should pop on any second.
And I'm going to look for those because I love reading the seething Christian comments.
Oh, they community noted her.
Good.
Oh, her?
I thought you're talking about him.
The Christians did.
Okay, hold on.
Oh, of course it's wrong.
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You're welcome, Stacy.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let's save it for you.
Because you echo too right now.
This is wrong, anyways.
Christmas trees way before 16th century.
Hess wrong.
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Adam, Gnostic needs to make infographics like this with the real info.
Please mention.
Yeah.
All right.
He heard you.
Yeah, for sure.
That's a good idea.
The documentaries are even better, though, I think.
Yeah, I've done tons of videos.
Yeah.
But I just want to say about her getting community check is hilarious because his chart is 10 times more wrong.
Everything she said is actually technically correct.
Even if you like assume she's going deeper than what she said on surface, which I don't think she is.
Everything he says is either half right and mostly wrong or just flat wrong.
So he doesn't get community checked, which he should.
But that just shows you like that.
He did all our guys were in his replies.
Yeah, well, I think we should community check it.
I don't know.
How do you get, how do you do community check people?
I don't know.
Because I've never even tried, but like, I think it's pretty nerdy to do that shit.
But like, he honestly, his post deserves to be community checked for lying about second century attestations of Christmas.
That's wrong.
There's no second century attestation.
Remember, he said late second century?
So he's just flat out lying about shit in there.
And like, it's just backwards.
Apparently, this was community noted by Tim O'Neill, Christian apologist Tim O'Neill, who's never published anything and is just some stupid blogger and not a valid source.
I told you.
I told you, Time.
I mentioned him in this video.
I told you he's a liar.
He does not know what he's talking about.
And then they remove the community note because it must have been BS or just got voted down, really, is the real reason.
Good.
So it's gone now?
Is it gone?
It's gone.
Good.
I never saw the community note.
Thank God.
That makes me have actually some like some faith in humanity because this topic makes me want to kill myself sometimes how horrible people are when it comes to this topic.
Here's an Orthodox Christian says, word concept fallacy.
Easter isn't called Easter by Orthodox Christians or most Catholics.
That has nothing to do with what she said.
It's called Easter, and that is not in the Bible.
That's from pagans.
That's the whole thing she said.
So she's still right.
All she said, by the way.
And notice how Tim O'Neill wants to fact check her when all she said was the goddess Eostre is where we get the word Easter from.
But Tim O'Neill in his stupid head thinks, but what about Pasca?
What about Pasca?
She didn't say anything about Pasca.
Dumbass.
Your community check is no good.
Dumbass.
Look, this guy that doesn't follow me and I don't follow also sees the same thing.
They are still pagan traditions, but the Jews and Christians co-opted them in order to make the ethnic Europeans' conversion to Christianity more palatable.
That's been the playbook.
That's been the playbook since day one.
Ever since Paul wrote in Corinthians, he told the Christians, he told his fellow Jews, they were still Jews at this time, to go to these pagan festivals and eat the meat sacrificed to idols.
Who cares?
Do it.
It's gonna, that's the playbook.
Here's their go-to.
Zeitgeist was proven wrong.
All they ever did, they think all they got to do is say Zeitgeist and it's the magic word that debunks all of this.
Just call it Zeitgeist, and then everyone will hate it.
That's what they call it.
All these seething Christians, you'll convert to Christ just like our pagan ancestors.
Yeah, try to burn our Viking princesses at the stake and see what happens, Christians.
Yeah, and they didn't convert.
They were forced under social pressure, under losing all their lands.
You'll lose all your lands.
You'll lose all your stuff if you don't convert.
And they had no choice to survive.
They had to.
Alvi's going to start hating Christians as much as I do with these replies and how they act.
Look, paganism is Jewish.
Oh, not your Jewish Messiah and your Jewish books and your Jewish chosen people.
Christianity's not Jewish.
Our ancestral religions before Christianity, that's what's Jewish.
All of Judaism is about conquering paganism.
These freaking Christians, your knee will bow before Christ.
Either surrender or you will face judgment.
Like these people aren't, God, this is some brainwashed shit right there.
And like, by the way, there's sources from the eighth century AD of the emperor in Constantinople issuing edicts on what to do with the remaining pagans.
Pagans were holding out for dear life for centuries, even after being illegal.
They did not want to give up their ancestral traditions.
They did not do it easy.
It took 600 years to finally get rid of paganism.
Show us your dog.
I want to see your little dog since he's barking for us.
Of course, they cite, they post inspiring philosophy.
He gets so mad.
He has a shirt that says Easter is not pagan.
Christmas is not pagan.
Dude, look at that little cutie.
Always interrupting the streams.
I know.
Biting your ankles and stuff.
Needs attention.
I know.
He needs attention.
For sure.
But yeah, like I said, it's just, there's no nuance with them.
They don't want to.
They know that these sources exist.
They ignore them.
That's why they won't talk to me.
Because if they talk to me, Michael Jones used to talk to me all the time.
I had him on one time for a Christmas talk, and I brought up all these sources about Saturnalia.
He conceded with me that some of the rituals come from Christmas or come from Saturnalia.
And then he blocked me and they never talked to me again.
Dude, these Christians, you don't hate Christians enough, guys.
Look at this.
Did you know Sweden was Catholic and wiped out all the lame pagans of Sweden?
It's kind of furiating to see that.
Because if their ancestors could see them doing this, oh my God, they would be like, if they can actually bring back some ancestor from, I don't know, I don't know who wrote that.
Maybe the person was Sweden, Swedish himself, or maybe he was Greek.
I don't know.
Maybe he was Italian.
Whatever, whatever it is, if they can go back and pull up their ancestors to whatever time, whatever pre-Christian time we can think of, when they had their local, beautiful ancient traditions that goes back to the Bronze Age, to the Stone Age, to who knows.
And you can tell these people, oh, by the way, they're going to adopt, or they're going to laugh at people in the future who try to bring back your rituals and try to survive, try to keep alive your ancient holy traditions.
They're going to laugh at you and say that you're Jewish because they, because whatever, because they think that Christianity is going to be a lot of people.
You don't want to worship the king of the Jews.
Yeah, you don't want to worship.
They're going to say, if you don't worship the king of the Jews, who's the Messiah of the Jewish religion from Israel, from Jerusalem, then you're Jewish.
They would lose it.
It would be like, it's infuriating to see people do that, act like that.
It really is.
Wesley Huff just Billy Carson's you.
And then they all just show up like a blind mob, angry, saying the same things over and over again.
Yeah, none of them actually bring any sources or any evidence.
And when you do, they just ignore it.
They don't care.
Yeah.
It's the Christian.
I still can't believe that it was Tim O'Neill who community noted this.
How did I know?
How can I predict that?
How did I know that already?
I brought up Tim O'Neill before you even brought up Tim O'Neill.
Because when it comes to this topic, he's obsessed with it.
But he's obsessed with making Christians right for some reason.
He's an atheist.
It's the weirdest thing.
He's like, Christians are going to portray themselves as secular or not Christian so that they can defend Christianity.
Yeah, he loves Christian.
I'm not afraid that they're going to do that.
He's one of these people who defends the idea.
By the way, I'm doing a video tomorrow night with my friend Mukanda, where we're going to review Bart Ehrman's latest video where he talks about how Christianity made the world moral.
And Tim O'Neill and all the all this, that whole circle of like pathetic wannabe experts, they're and they suck.
They don't know anything about antiquity.
They don't actually read the sources.
They don't do anything.
That whole circle of the internet, it's pathetic.
They think Christianity came along and saved the world from evil pagans.
They actually tell you that.
They actually believe this.
That's what the rabbis say.
I'm sure the rabbis approve of that message.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, they love that.
Okay, so now we're moving on to this.
This has been, if you ever need an indication of how desperate and low IQ Christians are, it's all of them falling for this supposed high IQ record holder.
Young Hoon Kim, who posts this post and gets 300,000 likes.
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I believe that Jesus Christ is God, the way, and the truth, and the life.
300,000 likes.
That's fucking crazy.
That's so crazy.
Guess what, guys?
As the world, every single day he says he has the highest IQ.
Every tweet.
It's so fake.
It's so fake, dude.
I did one.
I said, as the world's highest IQ record holder, Jesus, I believe that Jesus is fake and invented by Jews.
It's a Jewish myth.
Amen.
Hallelujah.
And by the way, this guy's card got pulled.
He's not the highest IQ.
He's full.
He's a liar.
He's the companies that approved it are like, are like it works for them.
Yeah, like, or they work for him or something.
Something crazy was going on behind the scenes in this.
They're going to play his videos of his supposed proof.
Like, you can claim you have the highest IQ, but if you don't come with the receipts and the arguments, I don't care how smart you are.
And not only that, I don't care if you actually did an IQ test because you can study for IQ tests and it voids the actual point of taking an IQ test.
If you study for an IQ test and take one, or if you retake one or retake it 10 times, you'll score higher.
That does not mean your IQ is higher.
It means that you're prepared for the test.
It's supposed to be a one-time thing without any preparation.
It's usually for young kids in high school about to go to college or something because they don't know much about it.
It's supposed to, it's you cannot measure it correctly if you keep taking it.
I think he was doing something like that.
Not only that, he has nothing to show for.
He doesn't have any PhDs and anything.
He's not a professor.
He's not teaching mathematics.
He's not doing quantum physics.
He's not discovering the world, the problems in the world.
He's not even engaged.
He's so smart, but he's like that other guy.
What is it?
Langdon also did the same thing.
And they do the same thing.
Christians are such suckers.
They fall for this.
Any guy can come along and say he's got a high IQ.
Sure, they're poor and broke.
And that guy works as a bouncer.
I don't know what this guy does, but anybody with a real high IQ doesn't preface every tweet with how high their IQ is.
But Christians are like completely convinced by this.
But if we were to do an actual study, like a theme study, we measured all of the millions of people in the study, and the top 95%, the top 5% of people said Jesus isn't real.
It's obviously a myth.
Would the Christians be like, well, I guess the smart people have spoken?
No, they would say they just don't have the spirit.
Their intelligence means nothing.
They dismiss it.
It would completely flip their entire logic.
By the way, look at Valentina Gomez.
I feel sorry for people like that.
Amen.
Yeah.
Amen.
Yeah.
So 300,000 likes for that one.
And then another tweet, 100,000 likes.
He says, as the world's highest IQ record holder, I believe the Bible is the perfect, eternal, and final word of God.
Therefore, the Bible doesn't need to be updated.
The world needs to catch up.
Okay.
Yeah, we need to catch up with you in your ancient Jewish fairy tale.
This is such a fallacy of an appeal to authority, appeal to IQ, that even inspiring philosophy says, guys, this is retarded.
I was proud of him for finally actually being real for once.
Yeah.
Yep.
This is so pathetic.
And this is like a different level of idiocracy.
For the sake of argument, let's just assume he really is the highest IQ in the world.
If he has only read Christian apologist books like Case for Christ and Gary Habermas and has not read any of the top mythicist stuff or debunking Christian stuff, what does his opinion matter?
Maybe he's good at math and scored really good on a math test.
Does that mean he's right about Jesus?
Christians?
Right.
They don't care, though.
They're just like, W, we win.
All right.
He says, oh, yeah, I already read that one.
The world needs to catch up.
So here's him proving his highest IQ record holder.
Membership card to Mensa in Korea.
Case closed.
I can't see it.
Oh, shoot.
Oh, I got to share this tab instead.
Oh, yeah.
This one is pathetic, dude.
What is this?
What is he showing here?
He got a card from somewhere.
Mensa Korea.
What does that even, what does this have to do with your IQ?
I don't know.
To get into Mensa, you have to.
Hold on.
I believe, I'm giving your credentials.
Look, atheist in shambles right now.
No, we're laughing at how stupid you are that you're suckers and fall for this.
These people live in an alternate reality, man.
Yeah, an alternate reality.
Seriously.
So you want me to go find like 10 PhDs that have high IQs and say, look, they say Jesus is clearly a myth.
And then are we going to be like, oh, religion in shambles?
Your religion is over.
But notice how to them, there's only two categories: atheist or Christian.
Yeah.
Like, you have to be an atheist or you believe this and you're a Christian.
Or you're just a full-blown atheist.
You don't believe like their worldview is so skewed, dude.
Don't they know there's people in between atheism and Christianity?
Yeah.
Here's another one: 14,000 likes.
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I conclude that Jesus is not a myth, but a real historical person and his gospel stands on undeniable historical evidence, undeniable historical evidence.
Please, please.
If you really have to say that, he doesn't actually notice how he doesn't back up that assertion with any clint with any arguments or anything.
Well, he doesn't.
We're going to play his video in a second.
Okay.
Why is Jesus God?
Here is my answer.
Highest record.
And I want people to realize something before we play this.
He, he, um, he, pause it real quick.
All right, real quick.
Before we play this, remember, if your IQ was 260 or 270, you'd be able to learn any language within months.
And you, not only would you be able to learn every language, you'd master it and learn the accents.
Listen to how bad his English is.
Hello, everyone.
And he's reading off a script off his computer, also.
It's probably written by Chat GPT.
He just cites references like Case for Christ.
And who's the guy's name?
Also, who Gary Habermas?
Gary Habermas, but what's the other?
It's Strobel, Lee Strobel.
Nonsense.
This is just so pathetic, man.
This is not scholarly.
This is like low-tier Christian apologists propaganda.
Okay.
Hello, everyone.
I am the world's high psych record holder.
Young king.
Why is Jesus Christ God?
I have simple, logical, and scientific answer.
Jesus Christ clearly said he was God.
Logical and scientific, guys.
Ready for the proof?
Jesus said he was God.
And even that's disputed.
Even Christians debate that if he really claimed to be Jesus said in the Bible, he said this.
In the Bible, he said this.
Yeah.
There's proof.
That's proof.
Yeah.
That's high IQ arguments.
That's high IQ thinking right there.
Right.
Look at his face.
Oh my gosh.
Just why even go on?
Just mic drop.
Jesus claimed it.
Jesus cranked with God in the Bible.
Proof.
That's proof.
Scientific and logical.
He said so because I read it in a book.
Okay.
Dionysus is God then.
What the hell?
Who cares if something wrote?
So it's written down somewhere.
Yeah, I guess the Quran is true too.
Right.
Is Jesus Christ God?
I have simple, logical, and scientific answer.
Jesus Christ clearly said he was God.
He forgave sins.
He said I and the Father are one.
Oh, that's theological bullshit.
You're just scientific.
Is scientific proof is the Bible says.
Yeah, but here's the funny thing about that.
He said that me and the father are one.
Okay.
You just smuggled in a theological notion as an axiom of the father.
Who is the father?
What father are you talking about?
You're presupposing Judeo-Christianity before we even brought any evidence to the table.
This makes this so low IQ nonsense.
He didn't actually say God the Father, who we also know is God for sure.
He just smuggles it in with it.
God, Jesus, and says, I and God the Father are one.
What God the Father?
Who is God the Father?
Why should I care about God the Father?
Why is that being smuggled in?
Does anyone even think about this stuff?
Dude, this guy just says he has a high IQ and then says, well, Jesus said so.
And it's like, Christians are like, oh, game over.
Atheists are like, I'm convinced.
He's smart.
I'm convinced.
It's the worst.
The lowest IQ Asian ever, actually.
Okay.
If this is not true, he would be a liar or insane.
Guess what that is?
Pause.
That's from C.S. Lewis.
He just quoted C.S. Lewis.
C.S. Lewis was famous for saying Jesus was either a liar, insane, or right.
He can't be anything else, though.
It can't be a myth.
It can't be made up by other people.
It's either Jesus was a liar, insane, or it's true.
And this is him repeating that talking point.
Or it's just a myth created by other Jews because Jesus wrote nothing down.
Exactly.
That's not the earliest mentions of Jesus were from Paul that never knew Jesus.
Right.
And the gospels are written decades later.
But yeah, okay.
I guess that's why C.S. Lewis.
That's why C.S. Lewis got completely debunked and nobody cares about what he says because that's a nonsensical claim.
It'd be like me saying, I either have $40, $13, or $27.
And it's like, no, you might have $119.
Why are you giving these three random answers?
Like, you can't just give three options and think that's going to work.
It's nonsense.
Or I do think it's right.
The people that wrote the book were liars.
Right.
There's another.
There's another.
There's a fourth option.
It's not three options.
It's the liar option.
Yeah.
You could act and you could add a million options after that.
Actions and influence.
What was that?
No, no, no, not my phone.
True.
I think it's his computer, actually.
Oh, really?
Oh, what a dumbass.
He couldn't even figure out how to work his computer.
A liar or insane.
Liar.
His teachings, actions, and influence on history prove otherwise.
Second.
He couldn't even do a retake on that.
So just because it spawned a religion, that means it's true.
Well, I guess Mormonism is true.
I guess every religion spread is true.
Yeah, he's literally just made a case for any religion at that point.
Yeah.
High IQ logic, guys.
Right.
Christians fall for this.
Jesus was from the dead.
This is not just a belief.
It is supported by historical evidence.
Oh, what?
Historical evidence.
What evidence?
What evidence?
No one said that.
No book.
Nobody outside of the gospels.
By the way, we have Jewish writers from this time period.
Josephus doesn't mention anything about this.
Josephus, there's that one verse about Jesus.
He didn't say he rose the dead in that verse.
No one knew about Jesus raising the dead.
We also have Nicholas of Damascus, who writes right around the same time.
He doesn't say anything about Jesus raising the dead.
Philo of Alexandria lived in that time period.
He died after Jesus died.
So he had plenty of time to learn about.
He had a whole decade to learn about a guy raising the dead a few miles away from him.
He didn't say anything about this.
Pliny the Elder.
Pliny the Elder was in Judea doing a whole analysis, writing about all the people in the tribes and the cities that were over there.
Never says anything about a guy raising the dead.
He was there in the 70s and 80s.
Nobody mentions Jesus raising the dead until the gospels come out.
And the Bible also says that the saints rose from their graves and walked around Jerusalem at the crucifixion.
Nobody wrote about that.
That's not historical.
He goes, it's not the claim.
It really happened.
It's historical.
Yeah, he just asserts this.
He doesn't actually give the action.
Notice how he says, this is backed up by historical gender.
Where?
Show us.
Bring one.
Bring us a source.
Bring us a primary source.
Bring us some sort of anything.
I'm dying.
He's the highest IQ person in the world.
I thought he was going to bring the goods.
No, it's the lowest tier.
It's just nonsensical assertions.
Yeah.
Second, Jesus was from the dead.
This is not just a belief.
It is supported by historical evidence.
The tomb was empty.
And many people have.
The book said the tomb was empty.
By the way, he rose from the dead and appeared to a handful of his closest followers.
He didn't go and march in and go, Pilate, you killed me and I'm back.
He didn't go to Herod.
He didn't do anything.
he didn't do anything.
He didn't do a world tour, and everybody saw him.
Paul claims 500 saw him, and that's just a claim from one person.
And not one of those 500 people wrote anything down.
We don't know that's true, 400, according to Wes Wes Huff.
Can't even get that right.
I didn't get that right, biblical genius.
But what's so funny about that?
Let's say, for the sake of argument, the tomb was empty.
Now what?
The tomb?
Let's say, well, that's a historical fact.
Let's say we can back that up somehow.
So, yeah.
What you, that's the only conclusion is that he rose from the dead because his tomb was empty, that no one stole the body to go bury it and give him a proper burial somewhere else or give him a cremation or something.
I don't know.
I can think of a million things could have happened while the tomb was empty.
Who knows?
Yeah, only conclusion.
The only conclusion he's from the dead.
Okay.
Climbed to see him alive.
Oh, and that's another pagan thing that they want to refute: the dying and rising God.
Yeah, and that was that was a that was a trope in that time period of tombs of bodies and tombs disappearing, and it meant they were resurrected.
That's a pagan trope.
You find that in the story of Hercules.
Yep.
It is supported by historical evidence.
The tomb was empty, and many people have climbed to see him alive.
Even many people claim to see him alive.
Yeah.
Many people claim to see him alive.
Who are those people?
Where are their sources?
Where do they write down?
Nothing.
Oh, okay.
Nothing.
They claim to see an angel.
It's just, he's just saying the church says that someone says that Paul says that Paul and Paul says, someone said it's all he shed, see, shed.
There's no actual data.
There's no actual source.
There's nothing of substance here.
Nothing.
And this is Habermas stuff, too.
So he's acting like, oh, I'm so high Q, I figured out Jesus, but he's really just like regurgitating Habermas stuff.
Oh, most scholars agree that he existed and he was crucified.
And then we know for a fact they really, the disciples really did believe he rose from the dead.
Like that's his same exact argument.
So all right here.
Couldn't explain his followers were willing to die because they were sure he defeated dead again.
Same thing we always hear.
His followers were willing to die, just like Muslims are willing to die, just like people today are willing to die, even though they never saw him resurrect.
Yeah, we have a source from a guy who got initiated in the Elizabethan mysteries.
His name was like Baro Keynesis or something.
I forgot his name.
But he jumped into a fire and killed himself because he thought it was over.
He thought he had nothing else to live for.
People are willing to die.
He's not spread in religion.
Exactly.
And people die for their religion.
All later legends, too.
These aren't in the Bible, all these disciples.
Like, what is the book?
The myth of persecution, right?
By Katie DeMoss.
It goes into this really well.
They're from seventh century church texts.
Seventh century.
Way later.
They started writing about the martyrs of the church.
And somewhere in second and third, also, but it's just this is.
Well, that's a few of them.
But then you, then in the seventh century, you start getting hundreds of them that are fake.
There is a few of them that are legitimate, but we don't know the circumstances of those.
Like, for example, like the second century, not Irenaeus.
Irenaeus is one of them.
We don't know if he was even had a choice to live or not.
Yeah.
He could have just been condemned.
He could have been pegging for his life for all we know.
Yeah, they could have been like, you broke the law.
And he'd be like, no, I don't believe.
I'm sorry.
No, death penalty anyway.
We don't know that they were really guess what.
Pliny the Younger's letter to Trajan says that Christians were willing to lie to keep their lives.
It was the exact opposite is true.
That's in the second century.
Christians were willing to lie and worship Caesar to keep their lives, according to that source.
So that's that's it's actually the opposite is true.
Yeah, they're like Christians think that they're high IQ now because they make all these same awful arguments.
They're like, oh, these must be good arguments.
High IQ Asian believes it.
Yeah.
Science says the universe had a beginning.
Science says the universe had a beginning.
I actually saw something.
There's some news, some new studies out that they're saying that like the expansion of the universe, which is where they get the big bang from, is might not actually be true.
I don't even think the universe had a beginning.
I think it was eternal.
And not every science doesn't say things.
There's still debate and dispute in unknowns.
The universe is most likely eternal, if you ask me.
And I don't believe it ever had a beginning.
So again, premise wrong.
Yeah.
Derek just had on Myth Vision, just had on a couple scientists.
Even if there was a Big Bang, it doesn't mean that the universe didn't exist before the Big Bang.
Right.
It just means there was some sort of Big Bang that happened.
That's all.
Science says the universe had a beginning.
The Big Bang.
Everything that begins to exist has a cost.
So the universe needs a cause beyond the time, space, and matter.
Okay, well, then your God needs a cause then.
If you're going to create one rule, you can't create an exception for that rule and claim it's God.
And that does not give us, that does not get us to Christianity, too.
I'll even grant all that.
Fine.
Some sort of cause started everything.
What does that have to do with the Christian God?
So it's real.
Yeah, but why did he bounce from Jesus rose from the dead to the universe has a cause?
Those are two completely separate, wide-ranging topics from each other.
Nothing to do with each other at all.
Yeah.
That cause must be powerful, intelligent, and personal.
Pause.
Like bullshit.
Personal.
What do you mean must be personal?
What does that have to do with anything?
By the way, when they say personal, when they say personal, what does that mean?
And it's always some nonsense.
Personal to me means I can contact this God right now.
I can say, hey, God, come in my room.
Tell me what's going on here.
That's personal.
They don't actually have a real view in your life specifically too.
Right.
They have a nonsensical definition of a personal God, but it has to be a personal God for Christianity to be applicable to this.
That's why he smuggled that in there at the last second.
He must be powerful, all-knowing, and personal.
Wait a minute.
Personal?
Why?
Why did you get to smuggle that in?
Now you have to prove why it has to be personal.
How do we know that?
Just made that up.
No, all of creation is made for you.
Your personal all the stars and all the galaxies and all the lights in the sky.
Those are all God spent all his time making all those so you could personally have something nice to look at.
Yeah, you and your little speck of a little tiny speck when you zoom out and zoom out and zoom out.
And there's all these galaxies that we can't even see right now.
That's beyond our even scope of vision.
That's for us, right?
Do you think this guy's a sincere believer?
you think this is just a big grift?
I think he's grifting.
I do.
Yeah, I don't think he actually believes it.
I don't think he even goes to church.
I bet you doesn't even go to church.
I'm going to show some tweets later on that he says that maybe makes me think he really might believe it.
Does he ever show himself going to church about it, like saving his life and from depression and stuff, stuff like that?
Very, very typical.
Maybe.
But my human reason, morality, and free will also point to something beyond physics.
Jesus free morals is something beyond physics.
Okay.
Okay, Ortho, bro.
Free will.
I hate that cope that they say.
Oh, why do bad things happen?
Because of free will.
Smashes that logic.
God entering his own creation to reveal truth and love.
So using reason history and God can enter his own creation, but he only did it 2,000 years ago in this nonsense story.
He did it in a place where the population was the lowest in all the Roman Empire.
Judea had the smallest population compared to Rome or Antioch, Syria, or Athens, or Alexandria, or Carthage.
He could have went to those major trade cities and shown himself, and all these people could have wrote it down.
No, he goes to this one little Nazareth place where no one knows about it.
And not only that, he went during a time when the population was under 100,000, hundreds of thousands of people, compared to now when there's 600 or 800 billion people, or I'm sorry, 8 billion people, and the internet where everyone could see you, the entire world would know who you are within seconds.
Nope, not now.
Can't do now.
Has to be a time when.
Nope.
Right.
Makes a lot of sense.
He didn't incarnate himself on earth, but he did it at a time in a place where nobody noticed him anywhere outside of the Bible.
That's very, it makes a lot of sense, right?
Yeah.
Great job, God.
Thanks a lot.
Really trying to save us with that type of evidence.
Thanks, God.
That's conclusion is this.
Jesus Christ is God.
Thank you.
Wow.
He jumps to that conclusion.
Jumps to that conclusion.
Dude, it's like it's even worse than I imagined, man.
There's no way this guy has the highest.
If he thinks these are good arguments and he's making these videos, there's no way he's got the IQ he claims he does.
No.
Or he thinks people are that stupid.
And that's another option.
Maybe that's the case.
Because he'd be right.
People are that stupid.
Chat says, lowest IQ shit I've heard all month.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm surprised more.
Like, have you seen any YouTube videos of people covering this guy and debunking this?
I haven't seen any.
Not really.
I would have enjoyed to watch that.
I saw the most pathetic response to him I've ever seen from Dan McClellan, where he goes, I know more than the Bible than you do.
It was like, oh my God, you just sound like him now.
You just sound just as dumb.
Yeah.
That's funny.
Thank you.
Okay, here's his next video now.
Hello, everyone.
This is Heist Icuman, Yong-kun-Kim from South Korea.
In this video, I would like to see my idea.
My thoughts about afterlife.
After life.
Afterlife.
Our consciousness continues beyond death.
Afterlife.
Definitely.
Our consciousness is not just brain activity, but it is something deeper.
Okay, prove that there's any consciousness anywhere without a brain.
Can't do it.
How come when you get brain damaged, your consciousness gets messed up?
How come when you take drugs, your consciousness gets altered?
Because it's all with your brain.
Yeah.
That's, yeah, this is crazy.
I don't know.
Like, I'm not going to sit here and say we that I know that.
Like, I'm not like, I don't know what happens after we die.
I'm going to know that.
But the fact that he's going to sort of leverage this to the Christian God without any sort of rationality or any sort of like way of getting there is just crazy to me.
You know?
And he says it's definitely, it definitely is.
Definitely.
Right.
Yeah.
We definitely.
Without any, he doesn't ever ever back up his claim either.
Just says it.
I think you believe this.
Science says that when the brain stops, then our consciousness disappears.
You believe this now.
But quantum physicist says that information never disappears.
Never.
Okay.
Okay, Deepak Chopra.
Tell us more about the quantum brain.
Again, though, this could be true, but this has nothing to do with this is not.
Christianity does not have a monopoly over this type of, you know, thought, like whatever this is he's saying.
Yeah.
He is so he is since given arguments for a possibility of an afterlife.
Nothing to do with Christianity or the Bible or Jesus has been said yet.
Consciousness comes from synapses in the brain, basically, in the brain.
So how there's no proof anywhere that that can happen outside of a brain.
It only changes in forms.
If our consciousness is quantum information, it may continue after the body is gone.
No shits.
It may.
Anything may.
For example, like computer data stored in the cloud, our consciousness may not be trapped in the brain.
But that doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
The data is still stored somewhere.
There's still a hard copy of it.
So when I send something to the cloud, there is a computer somewhere.
Yeah, another computer.
Yeah.
So he just made it.
He's just talking.
Yeah.
No, he thinks that the internet, the cloud is just like up in the sky.
Just it floats.
Yeah, that's why I'm saying that made no sense.
No, it gets uploaded.
I wonder if he thinks that radio waves and then gets stored on a server.
I wonder if he actually thinks it's in the clouds, like literally.
Like the data goes in the actual clouds and sits there.
That's what it sounds like he said.
For all we know, he could actually think that.
Quantum entanglement.
Here we go.
I'm going to suggest our consciousness is part of a bigger system beyond physical walls.
Oh, is that what it suggests?
Quantum entanglement means our consciousness is elsewhere.
Wait a minute.
I thought quantum entanglement has nothing to do with consciousness.
It's just about, it's about like not atoms, but I think atoms, right?
Where one atom can be entangled with another atom in a different part of the universe and they have, they could sort of like affect how they work.
But I've never read, and I'm no expert at this, so I could be fucking wrong right now.
But I've never read that quantum entanglement actually has anything to do with consciousness.
I think he's just smuggling.
This guy likes to smuggle shit in with you with other things.
Well, dude, this is just sounds exactly like Deepak Chopra.
Yeah, 20 years ago.
Yeah.
I'm going to ask Chat TP, does quantum entanglement have anything to do with consciousness?
Yeah.
Some scientists and philosophers believe that our world may be a simulation created by a higher dimension of being.
That would be bump Christianity, by the way.
Yeah.
Which I believe.
He says, which I believe.
That's not Christianity.
Christianity is not saying we're in a simulation.
Christianity is saying that this world was created by God.
And this is not a simulation.
Like, he doesn't.
You understand what I'm saying?
Like, that's completely heretical, what he just said.
Play that back.
Believe that our world.
Some scientists and philosophers believe that our world may be a simulation created by a higher dimension of being, which I believe.
If this is true, check this out.
Check this out.
Well, I don't believe it.
Yeah, he just says, which I believe, which, by the way, is heretical to Christianity.
Christians should be mad at him for saying that.
But look at my, look what I shared right now.
You see it?
Can you share it?
You see it?
All right, look at the short answer is there is no scientific evidence that quantum entanglement has anything directly to do with consciousness.
So he did smuggle that in.
Here's a clear breakdown.
Quantum entanglement is quantum physics phenomenon where two or more, I said atoms, particles become linked, such as the state of one instantaneously affects the state of another.
This is real, experimentally confirmed.
In fact, I understand called it spooky action and distance.
What is consciousness?
Conscious is a state of being, aware that is able to think, perceive, experience, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And it says, where does this idea come from?
Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff proposed the orc or theory, claiming that quantum processes include brain microtubules might be involved in consciousness.
Others have tried to link consciousness to entanglement to explain phenomena like non-local awareness, telepathy, mind-matter interaction.
But these ideas are highly controversial and not accepted by mainstream physics or neuroscience.
What does science say?
So far, no credible experimental evidence supports a role for quantum entanglement in consciousness.
The brain is a warm, wet, and noisy system.
Conditions typically considered unsuitable for maintaining delicate quantum coherence or entanglement for long.
Quantum entanglement is real.
Consciousness involves quantum entanglement.
No evidence.
So he just made that up.
Not surprised at all.
I found a couple short clips of this other high IQ guy, Chris Langen, who did the same thing.
He's shilling God and Jesus as well, too.
So I guess maybe the Asian guy saw that.
He said, I want to get in on that.
I think he's doing a better job, though.
Yeah.
Chris Lang did a horrible thing.
He got more viral about it.
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
And he doubled.
He doubled this guy's IQ, too.
You know, he went to a whole nother level with it.
I thought IQ.
Wait, I always thought that IQ could only go to like 180 or something.
Isn't that what it used to be?
I'm looking at Twitter right now.
It says Langen is 210.
What does this guy claim his was?
I thought Langen was 190.
I just saw 210.
So they just keep these guys just keeping.
286 is what Young Huan.
So Jung Hoons went from 270 to 270.
They all keep going up.
Is that what they're doing?
Yeah.
Every time you ask them, they have a new number.
It always goes up a number higher.
They're such liars.
I want my IQ to be 300.
I know.
Might as well.
Yeah.
I always thought IQ was only measured up to like 200.
I don't even know.
The death is not the end, but a shift to another reality.
Just like a video game character disappears, but the player still exists.
If a video character doesn't go to another reality.
Does he actually think the video game character is real?
Yeah.
Not just like little pieces of light in the TV.
Like, does he actually think there's really a character that's alive or something?
Yeah, just ones and zeros.
What is he talking about?
What kind of example was that?
By the way, that actually would prove that we're going to die and there's nothing after this if we were video game characters.
We just get turned off and it's over.
It'd be the exact opposite.
I don't want to be a fucking video game character.
That's fucking terrifying.
Are you kidding me?
Some NPC bullshit?
Are you out of your mind?
Dude, if he really does have a high IQ, this is a huge waste of it.
Yeah.
Chat's all calling him a retard.
Our consciousness may continue in a higher dimension like this.
Wow.
Many people.
Yeah.
That's why Joe Rogan probably, that's why Joe Rogan likes him.
Yeah, Joe Rogan's going to bring him on and be like, dude, have you tried DMT with your IQ?
You could like break the fabric of the universe.
Right.
Near death experience says they saw their bodies from above or felt warm light and deep peace.
They felt they took a piss.
They died and took a piss.
And even read peace.
Yeah.
You would think about hallucinations.
How about people dream all types of crazy stuff?
Every night people have weird dreams.
Does that mean they're real?
Does that mean you're leaving your body?
They say they felt warm light and peace.
These experiences seem like moving from one system to another, I think.
So if reality is part of something bigger, then that is not the end.
But it is a transition.
Shift to another reality.
Science is growing now, and we are learning more about consciousness and reality.
Our death is not destruction, but change and shift.
Humanity will keep searching for the truth about what comes after life.
Thank you.
That's pathetic.
It's pathetic.
His whole story is so pathetic to me that people actually were like, who?
Really?
You got 270 IQ?
You're a Christian.
Oh, my God.
Follow this guy.
Yeah, 276.
Well, guess what?
Sorry, Jan-Hoon Kim, but as the real world record holder, see right there, IQ 10 million men's.
Oh, wow.
It says it right there.
It says it.
All right.
Jesus is fake.
And if something's written down on paper, it means it's real.
Yeah.
So I think you got him.
By the way, look at the books behind him, man.
Look how smart he is.
Yep.
I got books too.
I know.
Okay.
Undeniable.
Why does he look so different?
Have you noticed he looks so different in every video he's in?
Oh, yeah, his profile picture.
What is his prof, yeah, his profile picture like a different person.
And then that's not the same fucking person, dude.
That is look how different he looks right there.
And then in every video, he looks like a photo or something.
It looks like someone's cloning someone or something.
It looks weird.
He may have high IQ, but he definitely has low T. I think everybody can agree on that.
Yeah.
And by the way, somebody, what was that guy's name?
Someone skeptic, something skeptic who cosmic skeptic.
No, someone did a debunk.
Remember, we were talking about it.
He debunked this guy.
Let's show that.
Yeah.
He completely destroyed him and said that all of this is fake and said that the people that confirmed his IQ work for him.
Banjo Atheist.
Banjo Atheist has shown him to be a fraud.
Check out his interview on this channel for details.
Kim seems panicked and is desperately trying to prove he is in fact the world's highest IQ.
He retweeted Lifeboat, officially confirming his record.
They left off that Kim works for them.
Wow.
A quick search shows, a quick search shows some very weird results.
Their website looks and sounds like something straight out of Scientology.
Jeffrey Epstein used to be on their advisory board.
That's what and he's shilling for Elon Trump and Jesus.
Okay.
And there have been questions about their finances and where their money goes.
This is all it sounds like a psyop, dude.
It takes me a lot to when people say psyop, I go, I get low.
Oh, God, here we go.
World memory.
This actually sounds like a psyop, legitimately.
Like there's something behind.
You can practice like memory training.
You can have a good memory, but if you're just memorizing a bunch of Christian apologetics, your opinion is null and void.
Yeah.
And I was actually reading about how there are fraud IQ takers who they know how to take IQ tests.
They study them.
If you practice IQ tests and keep taking them for years and years, you can get the highest possible score ever.
But it doesn't mean your IQ is actually high.
You're not measuring IQ anymore.
You've gone beyond measuring IQ and you're now just taking the test to take the test.
This is what it sounds like is going on here.
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually took the test, but I would bet that this guy was studying and kept taking it and kept taking it and kept taking it.
I think Chris Landon did the same thing.
Yeah, I got a perfect store on my driving test.
It only took me five tries with the same questions and I got perfect score because I have an official IQ of 10 million right from Menza.
All right.
Yep.
Okay.
So it says right here.
It says right here.
Sorry, what?
It says right here, the reliability of IQ tests, if people study or take, retake them, people often score higher on subsequent attempts because they've become familiar with the format and timing.
Recognize patterns and puzzles and problems.
Reduce tech anxiety.
Someone scoring 125 might push it to 135 after a few tries, but that does not necessarily mean their intelligence grew.
Ceiling effects above 130, 140, the small score differences become statistically unstable.
The tests weren't normed on enough people in that range.
So it says like a test can be reliable, but not valid.
And then it says moderate reliability, but their valid is limited if people can gain them or if they only capture a narrower view of intelligence.
So it's basically saying like intelligence is no longer being measured if you're just taking it to take it and to get higher scores.
Anyone can do this.
You could spend a whole year working on your IQ test and you can master it.
And then you've no longer, it's no, you're no longer measuring your intelligence.
You're now just taking the tests to get a higher score.
It's basically cheating.
Yeah.
Somebody can get a higher score than him on the test and then say Jesus is fake.
Are all the Christians going to go?
Okay, I guess he's fake now.
The high IQ is spoken.
We should find someone who just has enough time to just sit there and take IQ tests and keep studying and keep getting a higher score until they get to 200 or 270 or whatever.
And then we'll just have them say whatever we want them to say.
Let's do it.
And then we can just prove how this is all bullshit.
So look, it looks like Grok did an analysis on this guy.
He says the evidence means that this guy's a charlatan.
The IQ claim is statistically implausible and lacks credible verification.
Nice, Grock.
Many cited organizations obscure or directly contradicted by reputable sources like the Giga Society's founder, the absence of major media coverage, questionable academic credentials and name dropping of prominent figures without proof suggests exaggeration or fabrication.
His ex-behavior, praising high-profile figures, deleting posts under scrutiny and making grandiose claims about religion and science aligns with the patterns of self-promotion rather than genuine intellectual authority.
Well, the high IQ Grok has spoken.
Yeah, that sounds about right, Grock.
I actually agree with Grock for once.
Okay, now look, look at the funniest Christians that love it.
Oh my God, this is pathetic.
Okay, here's number one: IQ 275.
276.
These are his thoughts on Jesus Christ.
How many followers does that person have?
I'm just curious.
How many refugees?
200,000.
Oh, it's being boosted by all the biggest.
We live in idiocracy, dude.
We live in this.
We live in idiocracy.
It's over.
15,000 from 100%.
It is over for the world, dude.
Our society is over with.
We're done.
Here's another one.
Do you realize how insane it is that the teachings of a man who lived 2,000 years ago are still holding up?
He must have had the highest IQ.
He was literally God.
Oh, here's another one.
Oh, my God.
This is all pathetic, dude.
Okay, just this is a reply to his post about the undeniable evidence.
Cites Habermas.
The ancient extra-biblical sources present a surprisingly large amount of detail concerning both the life and detail of Jesus.
There's no contemporary historical document about Jesus.
Not until Josephus, which is an interpolation, and Takadis.
We're talking almost 100 years later.
That is not large detail and good proof.
Oh, by the way, Israeli flag and a cross in the comments.
That's who's who's loving this stuff.
We're done, dude.
Our civilization is over with.
Yeah.
We're done.
Here we go.
No, you're just mad.
You're just mad, Neil.
It's funny to see the NIQs having low IQ Satanist idiots mad at this.
God bless Kim.
You're just in a low IQ.
This is exactly what this guy's going for is trying to get posts like this to raise his social stock.
That's what he's trying to do.
In fact, this guy might be kind of smart because he's figured out how to game the retards on Twitter, MAGA retards, and get them all to fucking praise him and retweet his stuff.
And now he's got all this following.
And now he'll be on Joe Rogan.
And then he'll be followed by Elon Musk.
And then he'll be on fucking CNN.
And then he'll be on 60 Minutes.
This guy's going to rise to the top off this shit.
How unpredictable he goes on all the big Christian podcasts in their language.
Then he'll be running for president.
He'll be running for president in 2028, probably.
Off of a bunch of Bible reader says, Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, and Satonius, you're welcome.
As if, like, that's all of them are a set of generations after Jesus lived.
Oh, my God.
After the Gospels were already 96.
Josephus is 96.
Takatis is 119.
Pliny the Younger is 120.
Suetonius is like 125.
Yeah.
This is all a century later.
All after the original Christians died off and the myths were already in circulation.
That's your evidence for historical truth.
My God.
God bless Kim for telling me what I want to hear.
That would be like me right now.
100 years.
Or let's see.
When did not 9/11 was not even was only 20 years ago.
Like me right now talking about something happened in World War II for the first time.
No one's ever heard of it.
Imagine no one's heard of World War II.
And it's not in any books.
Didn't even like no one even knows about it.
And I'm the first one to mention it right now.
That's what it's like.
It's just complete fucking crazy.
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I conclude that Jesus is not a myth, but a real historical person.
And his gospel stands on undeniable historical evidence.
The gospel, he says the gospel is undeniable historical evidence.
It's pure mythology.
The first gospel of Mark is decades after the supposed events.
It's expanding in elaborations on Paul's letters.
And all the other gospels are copying Mark.
Matthew copies Mark, Luke copies Matthew and Mark, and John copies all of them and then rewrites it however he likes.
And this is undeniable.
And then look, Frank Terslow says, Treslow says, moreover, 500 people saw Jesus resurrect and not one of them recanted their story.
How do you know they didn't recant, by the way?
Assuming that it was true, how do you know they didn't recant?
You know, and they went to their deaths because of their belief, like St. Peter, which isn't in the Bible and comes from later tradition.
And Christians make stuff up if you didn't know.
All he had to do was deny, but he didn't.
You don't know that.
So they crucified him upside down.
Get it.
You get the point here.
Hold on.
Derek McAllister says, Most religious scholars consider the myth theory to be a fringe theory and reject it accordingly.
Of course, I hate this.
This is all Bart Ehrman's fault.
I fucking hate.
Yeah, I hate these divinity school.
What is go to his profile?
I can guarantee you he's a divinity school retard.
Dr. Derek McCall.
Doesn't say where he's from.
Does it even say what he teaches?
Husband, father, philosopher.
Oh, he's a divinity school retard.
I can tell.
I can tell.
Yeah.
And most theologians, most religious scholars that are Christians say, yeah, but you know what they all say?
You know what they all say?
That this, even if they say he's a real guy, most critical scholars agree that the gospels are myths, even if there's a real guy.
Yeah.
So either way, everything besides that he was a preacher that was crucified, they say, is a made-up myth.
So the myth theory, I don't know what he means by that because Jesus, the story about Jesus is still a myth, no matter what you say about it.
Isn't it fucked up, man, that we live in the time in 2025 when we're getting so good with mathematics and science and engineering and computers and cameras and microphones, but we still cannot get past the idea that Jesus is mostly myth, or if not all.
Most religious scholars are Christians, by the way.
That's true, too.
And they have letters.
You want to know what else is happening here?
From 1900 to 1950, scholarship was going into a direction followed by James Frazier and Jesse Weston and Carl Jung.
Where the gospels were being looked at as myth, following Greco-Roman tradition as well as Jewish tradition.
That was the norm.
That was where this cutting-edge scholarship was up until right around 1948.
What happened at that time?
Israel.
Israel needed a bunch of Christian supporters.
All of a sudden, academia shifted after 1948.
And all of a sudden, it was taboo to say Jesus is a myth.
And all of a sudden, everyone knew that Jesus existed.
We all know he existed.
It's 100% fact that he existed.
And all of a sudden, support for Israel went through the roof.
You're a huge conspiracy, flat earth, Holocaust denier if you say Jesus didn't exist.
That was never, that was never on the table before 1948.
Before, yeah, in James Fraser's time.
Yeah.
And oh, Bart Ehrman says that it's a fringe theory.
Well, Bart Ehrman got all of his college education at theological seminaries and was trained.
His mentor was an evangelical Christian and knows nothing about evangelical Christian into his adult life.
Right.
And he's also, he also still thinks that Christianity saved the world and gave it morals.
Still thinks that right now.
That's who you're getting this from.
They suck.
These scholars are not good.
It's okay.
These are just going to get better, though.
Better proof.
These are all replies to his post, by the way, about the undeniable history.
Okay.
Now we have Fumble Baggins says the new studies on the Shroud of Turin really convinced him.
Once I realized how real Jesus was, I finally took a hard look at Christianity.
Then I asked Jesus to help convince me, I guess he wasted no time in reclaiming this lost soul.
Imagine being convinced by this new bullshit Shroud of Turin study that did the x-ray measuring of the fraying of the of the threads.
It's fucked up, man.
The shroud of Turin was so easily debunked and has been debunked.
No one listens.
They just want to, they just want it to be real.
So then any scholar comes along and gives their personal opinion of why it's real, even if they have nothing to do with studying like shrouds or archaeology.
They could just be some random Bible scholar that studies the book of Matthew, does textual credit, and they give their fucking dumb opinion on the Shroud of Turin.
And then everyone comes back to it again.
And it's all, oh, new evidence, new evidence.
It's never new evidence.
It's always some guy just gave it his opinion, some fucking retarded fucking divinity school student.
Some dude, some dude did a study.
It hasn't been replicated.
It hasn't been like approved and everybody, all the scholars agree and concede on it.
It's an unproven method of dating things that's completely dependent on variables like how it was stored, humidity, all these other factors.
And the guy that did this study has been obsessed with trying to prove the shroud is real for like 20 years.
And that's you think, and I hear this all the time.
The shroud's the proof that it looks just like Jesus.
It's proof.
And the new study proves it's real.
The old study that did the radiocarbon dating, they took a sample and sent it to three different universities.
They all dated it to 500 years ago, right as the time that it popped up in the historical documents.
And the first reference of it is from a Catholic that says it's a forgery also.
And yeah, that's another thing.
The church itself was like, nah, we don't know about this shit.
And it doesn't even show up anywhere in the sources until the medieval, late medieval, not even early medieval, late medieval period.
Yeah.
That's got to be the biggest red flag ever.
No one cares.
No one listens.
No one gives a shit.
Okay, let's hear from the science, the high IQ scientist.
He says, as the world's highest IQ record total, I conclude evolution is a scam.
Oh, God.
Only creation is the truth revealed by God.
Okay.
You've literally lost your even ability to say you have a high IQ now.
He doesn't even say like it's wrong.
He says it's a scam.
It's a satanic scam.
Let's say you discussed it.
Covering up the truth of our Jewish.
Yeah, it's one thing.
It's one thing to disagree with the model.
You have some criticisms of like the current model.
But if you think this is, if you honestly think this is not scientific or it's a scam, you're fucking, you're just, you're, you're dumb.
You're, you're done, dude.
You've lost your mind.
You're completely far gone from reality.
Like, you might as well just say we have a flat earth, too.
Yeah.
Imagine thinking that you're high IQ, but then you think that Genesis is a better explanation than evolution.
Right.
And all, all the every time archaeologists go and dig and they can predict based on how far down they dig, if they, if they dig 12 feet, they dig 20 feet, if they dig 20 feet or 50 feet or 100 feet, they know what they're going to find on every single level.
They predict it 99.9% correct every single time.
You want to know why?
Because sedimentary rock builds up over time and all the old animals are on the bottom and all the young animals are on top.
Modern humans are on top.
Old Homo sapiens are on the bottom.
Until you get to, you know, you start getting into Homo habilis and all the stuff that's before us.
And then it goes one by one.
And every single time they dig, it's always the exact same.
It's never some mix mismatch of the order.
Huh.
Young home Kim.
Explain that one.
Did the flood, did the flood of Noah cause this to happen perfectly like this?
Or why aren't why aren't all the animals all the way near Turkey when they survive that's where the flood landed, right?
Why isn't every single animal, two of each, were brought to this part of the world?
How come all of how come we go to South America and we find species that don't exist anywhere else?
Dumbass.
Yeah, why not marsupials in Australia?
Right.
He's not, this is not high IQ.
I wanted them to be special and only there.
This is not high IQ, dude.
This is so bad.
He's so far gone.
He's such a fraud.
You know what this reminds me of?
It's like the Christians that claim to be secular PhDs and historians or scientists and go like, oh, you evolution's wrong.
And I'm a PhD in biology and I think it's intelligent design.
Like Christians will do these things to try to argue for Christianity.
I'm glad some people are calling him out here though.
Like high IQ, but can't grasp evolutions back by fossil records.
I just said speciation, biology, geology, archaeology, chemistry, genetics, everything.
Yeah, it's so true.
It's so true.
You cannot, I don't care if you hate atheists and you're not, and you're like, you're a hardcore traditionalist Odin worshiper.
You have to admit that this is scientific.
If you don't, you're just not reading it.
You're not studying.
You're not looking at it.
No, Adam and Eve, you know, Adam made from dust, Eve made from the rib, the talking snake, Noah's Ark.
And this is genetics.
Science and evolution.
I know.
This is where genetics comes from.
You know what I mean?
Oh, wait a minute.
I forgot.
I forgot about Ham and Shem and Japheth.
Whoops, my bad.
That's genetics, actually.
We're Japhethites.
Remember that?
Yeah.
And Ham are black people.
111,000 followers.
Ham is the black people.
Remember that?
Yeah.
That's really the curse of Ham.
Yeah.
Nero Story AI.
He's the CEO.
Okay.
The Bible is the answer to every problem you have, except disease.
Except, you know, except mathematics.
Yeah.
Except mathematics and every other thing that we've discovered since the rocket science.
Rocket science, all, you know, space travel, the solar system, you know, heliocentrism is not in the Bible.
Bible says from the Bible says that warned about that.
It could be about germs and bacteria and parasites.
Didn't know anything about that.
Yeah, just demons and stuff.
But the Bible says that the sun sets still in the sky because Joshua told it to.
Not the earth got still.
It failed to learn.
They thought the Bible assumes geocentrism.
It also assumes flat earth because there's pillars, four pillars on the corners of the earth.
So you have flat earth, you have geocentrism, you have 6,000-year earth, you have gates in the sky that let water out for rain.
Yeah, like this is this is not this is not a book that you go for your problems.
No, it has nothing in it that like a divine intelligence would have, you know.
The Bible's backed by science, man.
I hate when they say this.
Muslims really like to use that argument.
I know the Bible is actually backed by science.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It proves so many miracles.
Okay, let's see.
I think it gets even better.
I told you it was getting better.
I didn't mean like.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here we go.
This, this is the giveaway that I think he might be serious.
He didn't block you yet.
No.
Oh, wow.
He blocked me.
25,000 likes on this one.
Talk about the talk about the goislop getting boosted and promoted by all these low IQ Christians from the world's highest IQ record holder.
I had severe depression and anxiety disorder.
I even tried to end my life, but when I met Jesus, everything changed.
He healed me and set me free.
I'm living proof that Jesus is God.
He is the only way.
Is this not the story every single time?
Yeah, I know.
I'm getting tired of it.
I'm getting so sick.
Does that sound high IQ to you?
No.
The highest IQ guy in the world should be like rich and have a good job.
He should be solving problems of like some sort of creating a fucking cure for some disease or something, something.
But he's online talking about his IQ and Christianity.
Yeah.
It's like a joke.
It's a chilling for Elon and Trump.
This is like a bit.
It's like a comedy bit if you think about it.
It's actually hilarious.
Now he has the Christian persecution complex as well.
Now I'm being severely persecuted simply because I confess Jesus as Lord.
I've even received death threats, but I'm sure.
But I won't stay silent.
Evil will overcome.
Never overcome Jesus because Jesus is God and he has already won.
I hate when they say that.
Highest IQ record holder.
That's what he's doing record.
The fact that he has to put that in every single tweet.
If that doesn't scream to you, he's a liar.
Then you're, you are the lowest IQ person.
Like this is, he has a living IQ test himself.
This is a troll on to show.
Like, I think he's actually on our side just trying to show how stupid Christians are.
Yeah, like one day, one day he's going to say, all right, the gift, the jig is up.
I was just trying to see how dumb everyone is.
And this person and this person.
And by the way, everyone following me right now, you've all failed the test.
You have all low 70 sub IQs.
You should all be deported to a different country so that we can make the world better.
That would be fucking, that would be well played.
Maybe I should do this and I'll get 46,000 likes on my tweets.
700,000 views total.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
We stand, friend.
Blessings.
Stay the course.
Amen.
You are respected.
Stand firm.
I will be faithful to God, even if it costs my life with the Israeli flag.
Is that the same guy I saw earlier?
Yeah, that's the same guy.
It's all bottomed fake.
Yeah, maybe he's maybe he's botting.
Yeah, maybe that's what it looks like.
They're the same people over time.
Jeffrey Epstein, fake company, Mossad botting Psyop to promote Jesus, Trump, and Elon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sounds like it.
Okay.
It gets even better.
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I recognize that Donald Trump is the only president chosen by God in American history.
Really?
Not George Washington or any of these great presidents from the early, you know what I mean?
Thomas Jefferson.
No, nothing.
Sam Adams.
It's not even biblical because doesn't the Bible say that God like appoints the rulers?
Yeah.
So like, whatever.
And the only trumpet by God to save the world.
25,000 likes.
Every time he does this, low IQ MAGA just eats it up.
Look at that person wrote.
Go back up right there.
You just proved high IQ does not mean intelligent.
Go down.
Right there.
Yeah.
1,000 likes.
That's good.
That see, that gives me hope for the humanity.
But how about this one?
Amen.
I always knew you were a genius, brother.
500,000 followers for a parody of Baron Trump.
Maybe I should make a parody of someone that everyone loves.
Just be a fucking and just act like a MAGA retard.
He's the dumbest Christian ever.
Yeah.
Again, 6,000 likes.
The only president chosen by God.
We're almost done here.
Trump's the only crazy though.
Chosen by God.
Four point.
He just keeps tweeting it over and over again.
Look at MAGA voice.
Go back.
Oh, wait.
Could you go back?
Yeah, MAGA Voice.
He should absolutely be invited to the White House.
Look how many followers.
God.
1.1 million followers.
God.
We are lost as a civilization, dude.
We're done.
We're done.
MAGA Voice.
Astro Turfed.
Yeah.
Like Jesus.
They're trying to.
MAGA Voice with 1 million followers thinks that this guy with this fake IQ should go to the White House.
We're fucked.
We are totally lost as a civilization.
Proud patriot, MAGA voice, million followers.
And then I look at his, look at the picture.
Is that a girl?
Yeah, that's the girl, Wojack.
I bet you it's some like fat bald dude in his basement somewhere.
Oh, for sure.
I bet you.
Yeah, I bet you it's some fucking weirdo that actually has that account.
Chat says liberals were right all along.
Conservatives are retards.
Unfortunately, leftists are insane too in their own way.
As me and Derek Franklin, people forgot about the classic liberals, which is like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
They were classic liberals.
Freedom of speech, freedom to tote your guns, freedom to say whatever the hell you want, worship whatever God you want.
That's classic liberalism, baby.
It's considered a right wing now, but it's not, it's not MAGA.
That's what it's definitely not.
You know what I mean?
Yep.
From the world's highest IQ record holder, truth spreads through the voice of Joe Rogan.
Thank you, Joe Rogan, for following me.
So now we're confirmed that Joe Rogan is retarded, also, that he's following this conversation.
He's fucking done.
His brain is mush now.
He's too much DMT.
He's done, man.
This was yesterday.
I swear to God, guys.
I talked about this like last week.
We've been talking about this.
Tell him this guy for like two weeks now.
Tell him.
Tell him what I've done.
He told me he's like, watch, I bet you he's going to end up on Joe Rogan.
And now Joe Rogan's following him.
And he says, look, if you'd like to see me appear on Joe Rogan, please share this post as much as you can.
As the world's highest IQ record holder, I'm confident that I can help lead many souls around the world back to Jesus.
Mary Rogan has him on.
I hope he does content.
The fact that he gave him a follow is a sign that it's going to happen.
Because the way Joe thinks, he's going to do it because it'll be viral.
As soon as you log into YouTube and you see that stupid fucking Asian face and with the red background and it says Young Hone Kim, episode 3000, whatever the fuck it is, everyone's clicking on that shit.
Everyone's going to want to know what the hell is going to happen.
It's going to be like five to ten million views.
I guarantee it.
And Joe Rogan's not stupid.
He knows that.
And he'll fucking fall.
He doesn't care.
But the problem is, is he won't push back on any of it either.
He'll just let him ride ride out.
He'll just play the way he let West ride out.
Tell me more about that quantum entanglement and simulation Jesus undeniable historical figure theory.
Yeah.
He let he let Wes let Wes Huff completely lie about the Isaiah scroll and say that the Isaiah scroll was 100% exactly the same as our Bible, which was not true.
It's more like 90% and it's like 10% completely different.
And like, so he let it just, he's going to let this guy lie about his IQ and about Christianity.
And watch, it'll happen.
And Christians want to say, like, I'm a psyop.
Oh, oh, we're, we're trying to keep you from Jesus.
And there's nothing they hate more than why is this guy and his nonsense getting so many views?
Right.
So many likes.
Christian, look how much money Andrew Wilson makes.
He goes live.
He gets $5,000 on a donations, not for any, not for any charity, for his own fucking self.
I'm not hating on him.
He's fucking hustling.
Cool, dude.
I respect that.
But here's the thing.
You can't do that as a skeptic or a pagan YouTuber or some only Christians are going to donate that much money.
Sometimes he's made 10,000.
He's trained to tithe.
He's made 10,000, 30,000 on some nights.
Just off rant, just grifting the fucking Christians, dude.
They love it.
Wow.
I think we need to.
They want superheroes.
I know.
My one friend, Stephen, is actually becoming a Christian, not even trying to grift.
And I kept telling, I'm telling him, dude, you should start a channel.
You'll get rich.
You'll never work again for the rest of your life.
I think the Christians will buy it if I'm really sincere.
And I'm just like, guys, guess what?
I had a dream and I saw Jesus.
I'm the bit crisis king.
I'm the biggest Jesus.
I go from exposing Jesus every day to being the biggest Jesus promoter.
They would believe it.
They wouldn't care.
They would fall for it.
They're that.
I'd love it, huh?
I finally get on all the big shows that have been gatekeeping me.
Yeah, as long as you say all the right talking points and mention Suetonius and Tacitus and Josephus and quote Barn Ehrman a few times and retweet Wes Huff, you'll be fucking right in there in no time.
I think you're right.
Okay, I got like one more podcast when they want to have him on the podcast, of course.
Okay, let's do let's do Langen.
I want to hear Langen real quick, quick himself.
So here's the other high IQ guy, though.
Yeah, this fucking love joker.
This joker right here.
The YouTuber, Professor Dave, did a really good whole video exposing this guy.
Yeah, he did.
For people that want to see more.
If we're talking about a theory of everything, the first question we have to establish: does God exist?
Yes.
Simple as yes.
Which guy has a reality has an identity.
Okay.
The identity is as which something exists.
Okay.
Matter of fact, when you say the word.
So reality exists.
We all agree on that.
At least most of us.
So he basically just said reality is God.
Yeah.
Well, then what's the what does it mean?
What does that mean then?
Yeah.
Word concept fallacy.
Yeah.
It doesn't actually do that.
And it doesn't actually give us anything.
It doesn't actually take us to any particular thing.
Like it's just changing definitions of things.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You're just redefining reality as God.
That's all you're doing.
Oh, this guy has the highest IQ in the world, by the way.
This is the other guy that, yeah, he, well, he used to, not anymore.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, when you say the word reality, you're naming an identity.
It is, you're identifying something.
This.
I'm smiling because your answer on this is so beautiful.
It just reminds me of Moses at the burning bush.
And Moses at the burning bush says, Who shall I tell the people that you are talking to God?
And God says, Tell them I am that I am.
That's right.
I am identity itself.
I'm being himself.
Exactly.
That's exactly right.
If we're talking about, hey, Neil, what if like reality is God?
You ever thought of that?
Is that high IQ?
That's some Joe Rogan shit.
That's what that is.
Okay, one more from Legion.
Hold on.
Definition of God.
What's your definition of God personally?
The identity of reality.
You see, I've been talking about reality and I've been talking about the identity of reality.
God is reality.
As a matter of fact, God is the ultimate reality.
He is reality on its very highest level.
What does that mean?
Reality is reality.
There's not an ultimate reality.
There's not a different levels of reality.
Like, what?
If that was true, then we're God.
Then we're a piece of God.
This is like Hinduism, by the way.
Hinduism is the ultimate reality is Brahman.
And you are essentially in love is God.
Yeah, essentially in Hinduism, we're all just kind of eyes of the one.
We're all just kind of like little pieces of the one.
And that's what he's basically.
He might, this guy might as well be a Hindu.
That's monism, too.
All the Christians, all the time, they go, they'll literally try to refute me by the smartest guy in the world says God is real.
Like BTFO atheists is your IQ higher than his?
Well, I guess you're wrong.
Like, that's the type of arguments they make for us.
And this guy's like a bouncer, too.
Highest IQ in the world, but he's a bouncer.
And where'd you end up?
Yeah.
And the case for that was like, you should be able to back.
I didn't have the connections.
It's like, shut up, dude.
You should be able to think your way into any career.
You should be in business doing stocks or something or investing or fucking doing you.
There's so many things, real estate or whatever.
Like, why are you bouncing?
Like, that's not.
No, dude, you're lying.
You're not the high IQ dude.
You're probably an idiot.
Yeah.
Probably thought of this a lot.
You probably thought of his theories for a long time.
I'm not doubting that.
That doesn't make you smart.
It just means you're thinking about certain things.
You know?
Yep, totally.
No other definition of God makes sense.
So the idea is that the universe and all of us and our mind and our perception all adds up to be God.
Right.
The universe is a coupling of mind and perceptual reality.
What you see out there, the external world and the internal world, the internal world being your mind.
This is a coupling.
And it's not a coupling you can take apart and reduce to separate parts.
It is one thing with two aspects.
That's what I mean by a coupling, and that's what the universe is.
And that's what God is as well.
I'm aware of the metaphysical structure of reality.
I'm not going to lie.
I think he, I think this guy is kind of well read, though, in a little bit in a way, because he does his worldview is not that different from like the pre-Socratic monus worldview.
The pre-Socratic monas worldview was like, there's this one and he creates everything and there's little sparks of divinity in all life.
And that's kind of where he sounds like he's going.
I'm not sure if that's what he read or if he's like just came to that conclusion in another way, but like that's what it sounds like.
I think it's one of the Weinstein brothers also is like doing some theory of everything type of thing.
Same with Terrence Howard.
That yeah, they're always trying to do this.
They're always trying to figure out everything.
It's funny.
Person, you know, they really lie, though.
He's smarter than Young Hoon Kim, that's for sure.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I mean, this guy is the average Joe out there, also.
I'm surprised he didn't.
I'm surprised he didn't do a better job of working at work in the social media aspect like Young Hoon Kim is doing.
He's done pretty good.
Yeah.
Material world.
And that's it.
All right.
Anybody who is aware that there is actually another dimension or other dimensions to reality, then you start getting into spirituality.
Because what connects the perceptual world to these other dimensions, if not spirit.
How do you know there's other dimensions, though?
He's got 118,000 followers.
37 following.
That did sound following.
That did sound pre-Socratic even at the end because the pre-Socratics thought that the universe was threefold: corporal, which is corporal, which is physical.
Incorporal, which is mind, and then spiritual, which is the mediators between it.
He just explained that in his answer right there.
So I think that he was reading maybe Aristotle and came up with this idea.
That's what I think.
It's an interesting idea, too.
Like the only way that we can know of the world existing is through our brains, but we can talk to other people and they experience the same world too.
And they can confirm it so we know it is real outside of our brains.
Yeah.
So need some bong loads in the dorm room to get that one.
Yeah.
At least he said some cool shit.
Young Hoon Kim is.
Jesus exists.
He's God.
Because he said, so.
And he wrote from your Dad.
Yeah.
Like, at least this guy is like thinking about something deep for once.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, he was better.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's let me turn these things back on, play a few of these, and then we'll close it out.
Appreciate your time staying with me.
Two and a half hour show.
Uh-oh.
Tales.
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Does this prove Torah is a Platonist creation?
Good question.
The answer is yes.
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I bet she does.
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Yeah.
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They see free people as their oppressors.
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That's PewDiePie's voice.
I don't know.
It was.
Hey, Neil, I think you're doing Odin's work.
Do you believe in a type of God?
Yeah, I do.
I think the inspiration.
Always left.
He looks like a turtle that lost his shell.
Yeah.
Low Teeth Cummings.
He keeps glancing to his second monitor to read it, then looks back in the camera.
Yeah, he's reading his Deepak Silk Road, Chat GPT nonsense.
The Ghost of Elden sent $5 on Rumble.
Quantum Entanglement Proves Astrology Chinaman.
Positions of massive celestial objects influence the world.
Hail the idols, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the moon, and the sun.
Hail the old gods down with Yahweh.
Hell yeah.
Langen is a Neoplatonist.
$10 on Rumble.
You called it.
Longen is a Neoplatonist.
He's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's some sort of playground.
Okay, that's probably the last one.
All right.
So the first one was asking about the Pythagorean influence.
And you can see they do this number.
I'm echoing like crazy.
Yeah, I got it off.
Okay.
They're doing, they have all this like number Gematria.
By the way, Gematria comes from these people, not Jews.
This is Gematria is a Greek word.
It's not a Hebrew word.
It's a Greek word.
It's where we get the word Gematria from.
And look, it's got numbers and geometry and pentad and tetrad.
And then you even have your hexad.
What does that remind you of?
Satan.
It's Pythagoreans.
Look, look, the hexad, the Jewish symbol.
See it?
And that's not a Jewish symbol.
It became a Jewish symbol in 19 way in that, not even until the 20th century, but for centuries before that, it was Pythagorean.
It was a mathematical number of like divine unity.
And the Pythagorean monas were the real first monotheists, but they didn't have the monotheists that you think of when you think of the Bible.
They thought that the universe was created by a one who is called the demiurge, the creator.
And then under this one, we have the gods, the terrestrial, celestial, and incorporal gods that rule different areas.
Dionysus was the vegetation god.
Zeus is the sky father.
Aphrodite is the goddess of love and Eros and all this stuff.
So they were pagan and they're polytheist.
They were also monist in a certain sense.
That's where I think Judaism gets it from.
The other question was: do I believe in the old gods?
I think it was right.
Odin and all that?
I just asked if you believed in any type of God.
Yeah, I'm not an atheist.
I do think that the muse is real.
I do think that we can be inspired and by some sort of something, some sort of like some sort of like animating, maybe ancestral spirit that brings us to be inspired and to do art and to do music and do film and all that stuff.
All these mediums, like you listen to a good song, right?
You get inspired, right?
You put on a good song while you're at the gym.
Makes you work out a little bit harder.
That's magic.
That's the muse.
That's why the word muse and music are from the same root.
So I do think there's something there.
I'm not dogmatic about it.
I'm not going to say I know all have all the answers.
You should follow me or you're going to go to hell.
I don't think anything.
I don't think the Greek, no one thought that way.
The Greeks never thought that way.
So yeah, that's where I'm at with that.
Cool.
All right.
Well, I guess that's all we have for tonight.
Appreciate everybody for watching.
Thank you so much, Neil, for coming back on the show and helping me expose Wes Huff's nonsense and this con artist, South Korean, and these delusional Christians.
Appreciate it.
And everybody go follow Neil on YouTube.
Gnostic Informant, great YouTube channel.
I've been watching since the very beginning.
It's only been getting better.
Top-notch interviews and documentaries.
Thanks.
And thanks, everybody, for the support.
I love you all.
Adam Targaryen is out.
Targaryen.
Yeah.
Targaryans out.
All right.
By the way, do you know that in the next two years, there's going to be another season of House of Dragon, which I'm not that, I don't think the show is going that well.
But I'm actually excited for the new show called King, or is it the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?
So a brand new Game of Thrones offshoot, 100 years before Game of Thrones, not 200 years like House of Dragon is.
And then there's another movie coming out.
It's already on IMDb with Henry Cavill.
Henry Cavill's going to play Aegon the Conqueror.
It's going to be a film about the first century of Game of Thrones history.
The first Targaryen.
So like in the Game of Thrones show, you're like 20 Targaryens down the road.
This is the first one.
The one who conquers everything.
And it's going to be played by Henry Cavill.
And Gary Oldman is playing one of the bad guys.
That's coming out in two years.
Well, the world of the apocalypse can't happen before that.
That's all that's keeping me alive right now.
I'm really excited for the new Dune, too.
The new Dune Messiah.
Yeah.
I'm excited for that.
That'll be good too.
Hell yeah.
Dune's awesome.
Yep.
All right.
Well, everybody have a nice night.
I will see you guys tomorrow.
Thank you, Neil.
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