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Psyops, Controlled Ops, & Religious Wars | Know More News w/ Adam Green feat. Richard Spencer

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	What's up, guys?
	How are you all doing?
	I am Adam Green.
	This is No More News.
	Appreciate you all for being here.
	It is Monday, March 18th, 2024, and there has been a lot of stuff going on.
	I'm still recovering from my flu.
	It's been a while since I've streamed.
	Tons to talk about.
	And my guest today, returned guest, he was on about eight months ago, and he's a very fitting guest giving everything that's been going on.
	He is Richard Spencer back on the show.
	What's up, Richard?
	How are you doing?
	Thanks for being here.
	Well, I'm doing fine.
	I'm glad you're still with us, Adam.
	You know, among the living after this flu, I almost killed you.
	I don't think I'm even exaggerating.
	It was close.
	It was close.
	I don't want to get too into that.
	I'm hoping I'm almost fully recovered with the latest round of symptoms.
	Crazy enough, my daughter has been sick this whole time along with me.
	Also, she's still on antibiotics right now.
	And it's really wild.
	I wouldn't wish this upon anybody.
	But I would wish it on a few people.
	That's true.
	Maybe I would too.
	This is your custom AI Apollo thumbnail.
	Yeah, it looks awesome.
	So, what's going on in your mind?
	What's front and center?
	It's been going on.
	Well, you know, I'm kind of back on the Biden train, to be honest.
	Tell me more.
	Well, so I, as I, I think I was on your show eight months ago.
	So that was before October 7th.
	And the world definitely changed with that.
	And I would have defended most everything about Biden's administration.
	Now, I'm not saying it's great or it's like what I would want or, you know, this is me or anything like that.
	But I thought a lot of the domestic policy CHIP act headed in the right direction.
	His general demeanor, yes, he's old and it becomes kind of weird and embarrassing at some point, but you know, he's America's senile grandpa.
	And that's generally a good thing.
	Pulling out of Afghanistan, I actually consider brave.
	And I don't fall for any of that nonsense from the right or the accommodative, you know, intelligence community centrist about how terrible that was.
	They never wanted to get out and they were criticizing him in bad faith.
	It was always going to be messy.
	Wouldn't you think that his border policy is like a major deal breaker?
	And not to mention that he's a Zionist, although maybe not as much as a Zionist as Trump.
	That's my point.
	So, yeah, the border.
	Look, clearly, there needs to be a totally there needs to be new legislation with the border.
	I don't see a actual immigration reform in terms of numbers and so on.
	But to the credit of the Democrats, they put a draconian border bill on a silver platter and they handed it to the Republicans.
	The Republicans rejected it.
	Now, you can say, oh, well, we just want to enforce the laws that are on the books, and Maorkis is terrible.
	I would agree with Maorkis.
	In terms of enforcing the laws on the books, obviously we're getting overwhelmed due to economic and social factors.
	People come in, they get a court date that's six years down the line.
	They kind of blend into the wallpaper and never heard from again, etc.
	So, I mean, there's got to be systematic change.
	Maybe this thing isn't good enough, but why reject it?
	The answer is they were always acting in bad faith.
	They don't ultimately, or at least a very strong portion of the party, does not want to fund Ukraine.
	They, in fact, want Ukraine to lose and they want Russia to win.
	And the Democrats?
	Hold on, sorry.
	I'm just making sure I'm following.
	The Republicans, okay.
	Yeah.
	And so they lied.
	They said, oh, we won't even talk about Ukraine funding until we take care of our own border.
	And they were given a border bill that was more draconian than anything under Donald Trump, that is clearly an improvement, that is miraculous if you believe that the Democrats are open border fanatics or whatever.
	And they rejected it because they weren't acting in good faith.
	They actually don't want any sort of policy.
	They clearly don't want policy.
	They're the ruling majority by one seat, but they don't want to actually enact anything.
	They don't want to actually solve a problem.
	Republican billionaires like cheap labor as well.
	And even Trump, when he was in, said, like, oh, we're going to have more legal immigration than ever, too.
	So, I mean, it's really just kind of the same from both sides.
	Yes.
	And I think there's reporting on this.
	I agree with the reporting.
	They like the idea of a crisis at the border.
	It helps Trump.
	Much like they liked chaos in the streets ultimately with BLM because it helps Trump.
	They could say, oh, this is Joe Biden's America or some ridiculous thing.
	Or Antifa, in a way, also helped Trump.
	And you mentioned how, isn't it weird that Antifa basically disappeared since Trump was in office?
	You want to expand on that?
	Your thoughts?
	Well, I've been, well, I'll go into that.
	But I want to finish the pro-Biden pain to my man Biden.
	So I was all ready to defend Biden.
	And then October 7th happened.
	And predictably, he went along with pretty much everything that Israel wants to do.
	And it's been a bloodbath.
	There's no question.
	I guess that word is in the news.
	It's more properly used with Gaza.
	And I think I wrote this tweet where it's like, I want Biden to lose, and I want him to be perceived as losing because he's a Zionist.
	And I think there's a lot of, there's reason to believe that in the sense that his own base is turning on him or a portion of it.
	Certainly, there are a lot of centrist liberals who are pro-Israel.
	But even they're turning on Israel at this point.
	Even Chucky Schumer is turning on Israel.
	And Trump's in the news just today.
	Netanyahu's got to get out of there.
	The CNN guy Farid Zakaria is basically saying this is a strategic blunder and it's immoral.
	It's a bloodbath, is what he effectively said.
	So even the centrists are turning on Israel.
	And Biden is kind of bending.
	And Trump at his speech, and you can correct me if I miss something about his speech, but he mentioned Gaza a little bit and he basically said, we need to let Netanyahu finish the job, and Biden has abandoned Israel and things like that.
	So that's what he's playing.
	And so when I think about it, I mean, I have my own criticisms of Biden.
	I'm not going to be posting dark Brandon memes and I'm not going to be that happy about it.
	But I don't think his domestic policy is all that bad.
	I think it's pretty good.
	If any sort of domestic legislation or novelty is going to come from anywhere, it's going to come from the Democrats.
	And Trump has made his choice.
	He's basically going to try to paint Biden as the anti-Zionist candidate, effectively, or someone who's at least willing to push back or find a different solution, or even in the sense of creating this temporary dock near Gaza, put actual boots on the ground that are at least ostensibly opposed to Israel.
	They're not doing what Israel wants.
	They're not helping out Israel.
	They're helping out the Palestinians.
	So when I just see the whole picture and make the calculation, I think you've got to go with Biden again.
	If you sincerely care about this issue, he is the lesser of two evils because Trump is just in the way that American politics just is polarized.
	You're on this side, it's Coke or Pepsi, you're on this side or that side.
	Being on the side of Israel means that you're voting for Trump.
	And being Biden doesn't mean you're anti-Zionist, but it definitely means you're able to see them straight, be critical, find another path, you know, call them out when they need to be called out.
	So, yeah, that's kind of where I am.
	If like Zionism is your, you're a one-issue voter and it's Zionism, I think everybody would have to agree that Biden is less of a Zionist than Trump.
	I mean, here's Trump just the last few days.
	Jews voting for Democrats hate their religion and should be ashamed.
	There's some truth to that, but my takeaway is a vote for Trump is a vote for Israel and Judaism.
	Also, Donald Trump accused Biden of abandoning his support for Israel based and telling Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to leave office during an interview on Fox News on Sunday.
	Also good.
	So he still has Netanyahu's back after supposedly he hated him for Netanyahu congratulating Biden in 2020, right?
	Right.
	Well, that's the, and the weird thing about Trump is that, well, first off, there's the big weird thing that needs to be said, which is the most fanatical Zionist and the most fanatical anti-Semites vote for the same candidate and support the same party.
	This is this bizarre irony.
	So Nick Fuentes and Michael Rappaport are voting, both voting for Trump this year.
	Chabad Lubavitch loves Trump and the MAGA anti-Zionist MAGA also support Trump.
	It's kind of also like Fuentes and the Groipers versus Daily Wire, but they both say that the solution is Jesus to our problems.
	So it's like, what are we really, really opposing here?
	Right.
	And Trump is the vehicle for both of them.
	Trump is the vehicle as the last gasp of 20th century Zionism, or Trump is the vehicle for this new Catholic anti-Semitic movement.
	And they both believe that.
	And they're both voting for Trump.
	They're both part of the just overall multi-level marketing structure.
	They all have different down channels, basically.
	You know, it's like if you're selling Mary Kay cosmetics or doTERRA essential oils.
	Basically, you have a group of friends that you're selling the product to, but someone sold you the product.
	So you're downstream of someone else who's making money off every sale you make.
	And that's how it functions.
	And it all flows up to Trump.
	And the Daily Wire and Nick Fuentes are catering to different down channels.
	But ultimately, the money's flowing in the same direction.
	Ultimately, it's going to the GOP and the Trump.
	It's just like, look, we're anti-Semitic Catholics.
	Or like, oh, look, we're pro-Zionist Catholics.
	Or, oh, look, we're Jews who love free markets.
	It's all the same thing.
	It's all part of the same structure, which is the American right, which is a big MLM scheme.
	And Nick has got his little place, his channel.
	Daily Wire's got theirs.
	Michael Rappaport has got his.
	And it's all flowing in the same direction.
	And I just think you have to get out from that.
	You just have to say no to that whole thing.
	Did you see Jonathan Greenblatt gave an award, the ADL, excuse me, gave an award to Jared Kushner?
	And basically, Greenblatt was like, I really don't care who you guys vote for, but you got to admit, Jared Kushner and the Abraham Accords was amazing.
	This is his tacit endorsement and kosher approval of Donald Trump and Jared Kushner.
	Like, let's get real.
	He turned on a dime as well, because for a long time, the ADL and Greenbat have been playing the kind of liberal left-wing strategy of, you know, we fear the right and they're the big problem.
	And they were getting attacked by, you know, Ben Shapiro and company.
	You know, we don't like the ADL.
	They're so well-intentioned, but, you know, this is just a strategic era to be sorting, supporting all these left-wing causes.
	And, you know, Elon Musk has got to go.
	It's a big, we're going to destroy him with advertising and all that kind of stuff.
	Just turned on a dime, went back to where they're actually comfortable, which is with the right.
	I mean, I do think one of the, that leaked audio with Greenblatt was fascinating because he said we used to think of it as a left-right issue from, say, the 80s and 90s on, but now we have to think of it as a generational issue where all left and right of Zoomers and millennials are turning away from Zionism due to the passage of time, due to the passage of time away from, say, the Holocaust or 1948 and all that kind of stuff.
	And also just due to the obvious crimes against humanity that Israel engages in on a daily basis that are being broadcast on television, social media, et cetera.
	Younger people are able to turn away from that.
	And they're turning away from it for left-wing reasons in many ways, which is fine.
	At least they're getting to the right place.
	But again, it's a generational issue that he recognizes.
	But that doesn't mean that he's not going to link back up with the right wing.
	Let's get Elon Musk to go to Auschwitz.
	Let's talk about all these terror, these terrifying Muslim terrorists and get the right wing all kind of hot and bothered about these evil folks who hate Jesus and all that kind of stuff.
	And let's just go back to the well, effectively, because we actually are under pressure right now.
	And that's exactly what they've done.
	Do you find it odd that Elon has like allowed so many of these Zionist accounts back on Twitter and but also allowed a few anti-Zionist accounts to really explode and everybody's kvetching about anti-Semitism all over Twitter, but he's also got this bromance with Netanyahu and he's going to Auschwitz with Ben Shapiro and doing the panels with Ben Shapiro and interacting with all these Zionists all the time.
	And it's like all the big accounts that have really exploded on Elon's Twitter also just coincidentally happen to be like huge Putin fans also.
	You find that interesting?
	That seems to be the common denominator.
	Because if you look at Hinkle, I mean, doesn't Hinkle have like 2 million followers or something like this?
	And I just figure, I had heard about her a little while ago, but I just learned about Lupus, who is a doctor who seems to have had quite a bit of plastic surgery and is kind of weird and narcissistic and so on.
	And she's promoting Putin's election.
	That seems to be a common theme where you're right wing, you're pro-Putin, or you're anti-Zionist and sort of left-wing or communist in Jackson Hinkle's case and you're pro-Putin.
	But if there is a common denominator, it's that.
	So that in itself is quite interesting.
	Trump is, it's interesting.
	Trump is pro-Netanyahu, pro-Israel, pro-Putin also, not on the side of Ukraine.
	And he, and Putin has always been an ally of Israel and Netanyahu, but somehow all these people that are anti-Zionist love Putin.
	Just it make it make sense.
	Well, it doesn't fully make sense.
	I mean, it's not going to be coherent ideology.
	I do, I, yeah, I mean, I think that Russia wants to stir the pot.
	And Russia doesn't have a, they don't, they're not going to have a front.
	They're not going to have like a front group or support the American Communist Party or do something like that.
	It's going to be more of like a let a thousand flowers bloom strategy.
	So let's just get people kind of freaked out about shit.
	Let's get them into conspiracy land.
	Let's get a kind of like leftist, like, you know, go back to the RT days, like Abby Martin, who will authentically talk about, you know, left-wing issues in South America.
	Let's promote a little bit of that.
	Let's get a little bit of white nationalism in there just for, you know, to stir, to add a little spice to this gumbo we're creating.
	I mean, that is their media strategy.
	It's basically throwing shit up against the wall.
	But there are common denominators.
	That is the demoralization of NATO.
	The notion that, oh, it's too expensive or Europeans are a bunch of pansies and we're saving them and all that kind of stuff.
	Of course, it has kernels of truth to it.
	But let's demoralize NATO.
	Let's stop funding Ukraine so Russia can win, take over the country and achieve geographic sovereignty in the way that they would like and then move on to the next one.
	Maybe like I'm suspicious.
	Alex Jones the other day said that the CIA was behind QAnon.
	And it's like, but he also says that the CIA is anti-Trump and the deep state and wants to take Trump out.
	So why would they create a cult following for Trump that is anti-CIA?
	And also QAnon has always been extremely pro-Putin.
	He's a white hat.
	He's working with Trump.
	He's one of the good guys.
	He's going to save us.
	He's against the cabal.
	He kicked out the NW.
	All those things is what QAnon promotes.
	It doesn't make sense that the CIA would be behind that.
	And the Soviets had Operation Trust, as Anatoly Galitzin writes about in New Lies for Old.
	That's the trust project, just like Trust the Plan, the good guys, the white hats are in control.
	It's all going to be okay.
	It's this same idea.
	And I think it's Israel and Russia behind QAnon is who I think's behind it.
	Oh, I think very, very odd.
	I totally agree with you.
	Going on a hunch.
	I don't think the CIA would do this, even according to Alex Jones' own terms, as you point out.
	Did QAnon, it's himself or themselves or herself ever write directly about Putin?
	I'm not exactly sure.
	I didn't follow closely all the cue drops.
	They're kind of irrelevant, right?
	It's almost like the scriptures of the Bible are irrelevant.
	It's what all of the promoters and the decoders are saying about it.
	And all the people that promoted QAnon.
	You know, it's like all it's the Hadith.
	It's kind of like the latter kind of interpretations and epistles and so on.
	I mean, that's what QAnon is, effectively.
	So one more thing to close out on Trump.
	Oh, shoot.
	Do you think, like, because I'm still 100%, I think it's like a foregone conclusion.
	Trump's going to win.
	Him and Cushner are going to be back in, and they're going to carry on with their Zog plan.
	Do you agree?
	You think Trump's in?
	I predicted that Trump was going to win reelection after October 7th.
	And I was kind of sensing that even a little bit before.
	I do think that we tend to underestimate Biden.
	And once you get Trump fully out there, once it's clear that he's the nominee.
	Well, it's already clear.
	He's the nominee, isn't it?
	I know, but in the minds of the public, not us who are obsessed about this all the time.
	In the minds of the public, it's very clear what this is going to be about.
	We learn more about Jack Smith from Jack Smith's investigation.
	I mean, Jack Smith implied in a filing that Trump was selling classified documents.
	So, I mean, that could change things.
	Obviously, the Trump fanatics won't believe that for a moment, but there will be a number of people who will.
	And I would say it's like 55, 45 Trump.
	If I were to just bet who's going to win, I do think it's going to be him.
	I would stick to what I've been saying for a little while.
	But I don't know.
	It's just weird.
	Everyone has emotional bias about things.
	I was so angry at Biden that I just wanted him to get crushed after October 7th and just allowing Israel to do.
	I was just angry at him.
	I've kind of warmed up to him.
	He can flow with the wind a little bit.
	He can tack and change direction ever so slightly.
	And so I have more, I have fonder feelings towards him.
	In terms of Trump, he is what he is.
	There could have been a moment where Trump just says, we are in support of Palestinian rights and we're critical of Bibi Net Yahoo.
	You know, he doesn't like us, frankly.
	You know, he supported the stolen election of 2020.
	He could have done that and all of his bovine followers would have gone along with him.
	He could say any, I mean, he can shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it with his followers.
	He can do that.
	And so he, just through the power of the cult of personality, he could have shifted things away from the typical Zionist policies, but he's he's just clearly not.
	And to think that he will is just engaging in wishful thinking.
	And to think that like Fuentes is going to take over in 2025, or once he gets in office, he's going to go rogue.
	Like all of this is just wishful thinking.
	It's just, it's just, I don't buy it.
	Yeah, no dark MAGA.
	John Garadis for 50 says, don't worry about that Spurging man pussy, Adam.
	We got your back.
	You have us going on a stream and lying without the ability to be confronted is a new low.
	He's shilling for Putin and Christians to get a larger audience and shekels as well.
	Throwing Muslims there too.
	We are all with you and you're the best of the best.
	Appreciate you so much, John.
	You were in this, I don't want to drag you into the drama, Richard, but the last time I was on your podcast was right when Lucas Gage got banned for his careless, slaying demonic demons rant.
	And I defended him.
	You guys were critical.
	But now, as you saw in the space today, you were listening to a little bit.
	We're feuding.
	I'm feuding with Stu Peters, or at least we were the other day with the Groipers, the whole anti-Zionist MAGA, I guess is the best way to call him.
	The Christian controlled op as I see them.
	Your thoughts?
	I remember when Lucas Gage first cropped up in, it was 2016, I believe, and he was pro-Trump.
	And I didn't really like the way that he argued.
	I didn't, I just generally didn't like the vibe, and I didn't find anything interesting there.
	You know, it's like, you've got to tell me something I don't know.
	You've got to offer a perspective that feeds my thought.
	And if you're just going to kind of make arguments about how the liberals are unfair to whites or whatever, I just get bored.
	He was truly outlandish after October 7th.
	He got himself banned.
	I guess the origin of the feud is basically he is doing what they all do, which is just saying, you know, oh, I'm totally Christian or, you know, Nick Fuentez is our fur or whatever and moving towards that.
	And we've got to throw poor Adam Green under the bus because he's going against Christ as King or whatever.
	I'm not going on with the movements, the Christian movement that I don't want to be a part of and I'm highly critical of, but apparently he's kicked me out of the movement because I'm not willing to bite my tongue and bend the knee to the Christ is king tards.
	I've also seen some things from Stu Peters that struck me as just outright fake news.
	Oh, yeah.
	The venom in the water, his documentary about how COVID was secretly venom in the water, snake venom.
	What?
	You didn't even hear about that, huh?
	Yeah.
	Or his other one is he posts pictures of the moon during the day and he's like, oh, there's something suspicious about this.
	Like, is the earth flat?
	Is the moon fake?
	Like, and then he has the Khazarian mafia disinfo and just.
	The moon rotates around the earth.
	That's why you see it during the day.
	It's a real simple thing.
	I know.
	I know.
	Also, just the whole narrative that Jesus is central and our big grievance with the Jews is that they killed Jesus.
	Like, I know you agree.
	We've talked about this before that the Christian talking points against Jews are discrediting and counterproductive and ultimately help them and discredit us.
	And that's the narrative they all want to take.
	And I think that's the talking point that was created for us that guarantees our defeat.
	Yes.
	Yeah, 100%.
	I mean, you're still, you're playing into their game by hoping that their Messiah is going to take out the Pharisees or whatever.
	The only way to fight the Jews is to worship their Messiah.
	Don't you know that?
	Right.
	Right.
	The one that you claim is prophesied in their book in Isaiah and Daniel and so on.
	Like, right.
	Yeah.
	Don't know what to say.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we can go into that more deeply.
	I think we disagree.
	We just simply agree on this.
	I mean, again, what he's doing, it's all very personal and petty.
	I mean, he's clinging to other people for warmth.
	And this is, there is a tremendous amount of energy on the right.
	If you just say Christ is king and claim to be a trad cath or whatever, you immediately have followers.
	And I, I, you know, you know, I'm somewhat sympathetic.
	I understand why he's doing that.
	He's been kicked off Twitter.
	He's been attacked, malign.
	He's on Twitter.
	He has half a million followers on Twitter.
	I thought, I thought Gage got.
	Oh, sorry.
	I thought you meant Stu Peters.
	Yeah, he was suspended from Twitter.
	Apparently, Lucas may be coming back in a couple of days.
	We'll see.
	Why isn't it just so curious?
	Like, I think you should be kicked off social media for questioning the moon for like doing moon conspiracies, even though it's fairly benign.
	It's just so inherently stupid that you're obviously either deranged or malicious.
	You know, it's like one or the two, so you should just be off.
	That's kind of how I felt about TikTok.
	Like, TikTok is a hotbed for kosher disinformation theories and distractions and degeneracy and all these things.
	So I was against TikTok because of that and because it's foreign and we could be manipulated and stuff by the algorithms, which we are.
	And because I've been so heavily censored on there, obviously, shadow ban.
	But now that the ADL wants them gone and all the Jewish lobbies when I'm gone, now I'm like, no, for free TikTok.
	It's weird circumstances.
	I think you were still suffering from the flu.
	I wanted you to come on my show to talk about TikTok because I am in the camp of let's just get rid of this fucking thing.
	Even if it is the ADL doing it, it's like, well, well, oh, great.
	Like they're doing us a favor.
	They have more power than we do and they're doing what we should do.
	So why are we trying to stop them?
	Would China allow an American social media company to do what they're doing in China?
	Hell no.
	Or Russian.
	Absolutely not.
	They never would.
	No.
	The other thing, I did an experiment on TikTok around a year ago or so.
	I never had an account.
	I think I might have had an account at one point and just like, this is so fucking stupid.
	I don't want to have anything to do with this.
	But I did an experiment where I signed up.
	I think I used my Gmail account so they would be able to find other information about me.
	And I wanted to see what the algorithm did.
	And it immediately recognized that I was a middle-aged man living in the Pacific Northwest or something.
	I was getting all of these videos because I didn't follow anyone.
	It was just pure algorithm.
	And I was getting all, I didn't get any transsexual stuff.
	I didn't get stuff about teenage girls cutting themselves or contemplating suicide or something.
	I didn't get any of that, which I think, you know, there are other experiments have been done where people sign up as a young girl and you mention one keyword and next thing you know, it's all about self-harm and suicide and transsexual.
	I mean, like, these are like liberal reporters doing this and being like, wow, this is actually pretty toxic.
	But no, it recognized that I was a middle-aged man.
	So I got all these MILF videos and MILFs and cowboy hats is what I noticed.
	So I was like, okay, so they've kind of put two and two, they've combined different things.
	But the algorithm was doing that, I believe, because it all made sense.
	The other thing that I found just appalling, even though it's fairly benign, is that you would have these like suburban housewives who would be lip-syncing like hardcore rap music or telling some completely kind of gross joke about anal sex or something.
	Like just they would be mouthing the words to someone else's voice.
	And it was just, I found it disturbing and just like an obvious example of subversion because they're playing that you have this like fairly normal, attractive looking woman playing the part in some body play that's created for her by her app.
	And I was just like, what the fuck is this?
	This is clearly making everyone worse.
	Then after I was on it for about a week, I started to get very curious things.
	You know, this is all anecdotal, but it is telling about the algorithm.
	So there is this one attractive Muslim woman.
	She was in a hijab and she said things like, well, you know, in Islam, we understand that if you're married to a man, you've got to find women for your man to satisfy him.
	And like, you might not like it, ladies, but this is the way of Allah.
	And she was talking about like being creating a harem or something for your man who converts to Islam.
	And it was all fake.
	I could actually tell there was a little bit of an uncanny valley.
	I could tell that she was acting as well.
	It wasn't just a spontaneous thing.
	And I was thinking, what in the actual fuck is this?
	Why would a like you've you've discovered that I'm a white 45 year old like living in the Pacific Northwest?
	Why on earth are you algorithmically pointing me towards this type of material?
	Have they figured something out?
	Is it is it some like new, you know, they've for like how long I stayed on a video or what I swiped quickly, or are you just kind of like injecting this?
	What is this trying to do?
	It's the kind of like Andrew Tate, you know, sex plus trad.
	You know, it's like the Abrahamic sex cult that someone like Andrew Tate represents.
	And it's just like, why is this happening?
	At that point, I was just like, fuck this shit.
	I'm, I'm totally off.
	And I did some other searches as well.
	I remember searching for like Mandela effect because I was just curious.
	And you have all these normies who are just delusional and like out of their mind.
	Like they'll talk about a Mandela effect, which is, you know, something that you misremember, you know, like the Monopoly Man had a monocule or what are some other famous ones?
	Tinker Bell is a Disney logo.
	The loom has like a basket in it or something.
	Right.
	And, or the Bernstein bear.
	It goes on and on.
	And they're, they're interesting and kind of cute and harmless.
	You have all of these seemingly normie people talking about how this indicates that we're in another dimension or the multiverse is real and or the elites are doing this to kind of like make us crazy.
	Like they're trying, they're adding in new Mandela effects to try to like gaslight us into something.
	I have no idea.
	But I was like, this is the most like fucking unhealthy suspool I have ever encountered flat Earth was really pumped a lot for me for a while, and I saw the numbers, huge numbers of people watching this flat earth.
	That's where I was like, this is so subversive.
	Or just like Khazarian conspiracies or just total distraction stuff.
	Here's one that I saw the other day on TikTok.
	It's the Michael Rappaport stunt stage hoaxed video that he tricked everybody on.
	13,000 likes from the Christian guy.
	Did you see this video?
	No.
	Do you know about this?
	Okay, let me play it.
	I have it right here.
	So here is the leaked video of Michael Rappaport, the big Zionist propagandist that's been going over to Israel and stuff.
	Watch this.
	Everybody's sharing it and saying video showing that he's getting paid by Israel for his propaganda.
	Let's watch this.
	For the videos I've been getting.
	If I say Israel, you gotta pay me a certain price.
	If I say Zionist, you pay me a certain price.
	If I say Zionist, Israel, and Jewish, that's the big three.
	I get paid for that.
	Right.
	Same as always.
	Yeah, just keep paying me the same thing.
	Zionist, Israel, Jewish.
	You pay me.
	No problem.
	If I do a watermelon.
	But what if I do a watermelon emoji?
	And if I say something about fuck Palestine.
	If I say fuck Palestine on camera.
	Okay, you're going to give me more.
	Okay, cool.
	Fucking film me.
	Okay.
	So I'm sorry, I watched this.
	That seems a little too cute.
	That's a little too perfect.
	It's a poorly performed acting stunt that's so obviously a troll, and he scammed.
	It made me lose faith in the discernment of humanity that everybody was falling for this.
	Yeah.
	They thought it was real.
	And then he double-trolled everybody by saying, there's a video.
	This is his account.
	There's a video.
	What does he have?
	He's like one of the biggest spokesmen.
	Him and Shmuly Botayak, the biggest spokespeople for Israel right now.
	There's a video circulating that makes it seem like I'm getting paid for all my videos.
	This is not real.
	CGI and AI'd me.
	And people then fell for that.
	Falling for both of his trolls.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I imagine Rappaport, I imagine he might actually be a sort of psychopath.
	In the sense that, not that he's not committed to Israel and so on.
	I think that's genuine.
	Whenever you have utter contempt for your audience, I think that's quite telling.
	You know, like, for instance, Adam, some of your shows are better than others, right?
	I'm sure that sometime you did a show and you're like, ah, you know, that was kind of lame.
	I was tired or whatever.
	Because you actually care.
	You want to inform your audience.
	You're not out here.
	You don't have contempt for people watching you.
	He does.
	These things are like little pranks or whatever.
	It's actually how a psychopath views the outside world, which is that I am so much smart.
	I'm so much smarter than you.
	It's not even like more intelligent or intellectual.
	It's like you're a sucker.
	You're shit.
	I want to get one over on you.
	And you just have utter contempt for the people listening to you.
	You see a lot of this on YouTube.
	I think in a way, YouTube almost like promotes psychopathy in that way.
	But yeah, I think anyone who would do something like that and, you know, we all have little pranks or jokes, but to do something like that, he has an inner hatred of the people watching his videos, which is kind of fascinating revealing.
	Well, a lot of the people that watch him and the more attention he gets is from like pro-Palestine people or quote-unquote anti-Semites.
	So he's all about laughing and being obnoxious and like wanting to be hated, but also always chilling for Israel.
	I wanted to ask you this.
	I tweeted, I tagged you on this one.
	This one is so huge.
	I know you're philosophy PhD or masters or what is it exactly?
	I dropped out of a PhD program.
	Okay, you studied philosophy.
	You're an armchair philosopher.
	And so huge Nietzsche fan, though, right?
	Yeah, I am a Nietzschean.
	So have you read?
	Through and through.
	Let's see.
	What is this?
	The genealogy of moral.
	Genealogy of morality.
	Of morality.
	Okay.
	Look at this line.
	It says, this is so good.
	Like Jesus as bait in the reverse psychology of Jews having to reject their Messiah so that the Gentiles adopt him.
	He nails it.
	Here, watch this.
	Let me read this.
	That Israel must itself deny the real instrument of its revenge, Jesus or the Messiah, before all the world as a mortal enemy and nail it to the cross so that all of the world, namely all the opponents of Israel, could unhesitatingly swallow just this bait.
	Perfect.
	Yes.
	You should read the first section of the genealogy of morality because that's actually the best place to start if you've never read Nietzsche before.
	And it's kind of fascinating.
	I had this, I guess, kind of former friend now.
	But anyway, we were reading the genealogy of morality in the Substack group, and he was saying that, you know, whenever Nietzsche praises Jews, they start to get nervous.
	Whenever Nietzsche criticizes Jews, they also start to get nervous.
	It would probably be funnier the other way around.
	I didn't get enough sleep last time.
	Whenever Nietzsche criticizes Jews, they get nervous.
	Not nearly as nervous as when he starts praising them.
	So he starts praising them as like the, you know, the new masters of Europe who have escaped to the backwardness of Christianity.
	And they're like, do you want to?
	Or the masterminds that like fooled the Goyam, duped the Goyam into worshiping their God.
	Yes.
	And Christianity is a fundamental, fundamentally a fulfillment of Judaism, which is also something that, you know, Lucas Gage and Nick Fuentes don't want to hear as well, which is just obviously correct.
	Yeah, I need to, I need to, I haven't read that in about a year or so.
	I need to re I usually read genealogy of morality quite a bit.
	It's always a new book when you re-encounter it.
	I'm sure it's going to feel like a new book when I encounter it again.
	I'm totally brain farting on the famous philosopher from France on his name right now.
	It's literally one of the most famous ones.
	Oh, it's Voltaire.
	No, it's Voltaire.
	Oh, Voltaire, yeah.
	I think it was Voltaire.
	He said something like that we shouldn't, our objection should to Jews is not that they killed Jesus, but that they invented him.
	That's perfectly stated.
	Profound.
	All these guys knew it.
	Yeah.
	The other thing about what's, I might even want to, I'm going to go re-look at the genealogy of morality tonight, but now that you brought it up, but this gets to the caducean nature of reality.
	And this is something that Mark Brahman has come up with a perfect label for it, Caducian.
	Now, it is a phenomenon that other people have addressed before.
	But it's basically the two-headed snake.
	So you know, the symbol of a caduceus.
	It's Mercury's staff.
	There's a twirl.
	There's a couple of myths about how it got that way.
	Mercury was walking past two snakes fighting, and he got them on the staff, and he twirls it.
	But it's, I guess, best understood as like controlled opposition or a synthetic opposition, I think, might even be a better way of thinking about it.
	So it's Jesus versus the Pharisees.
	Well, what's happening when you choose either of those two things?
	You're still trapped within the matrix of Judaism.
	Choosing one Jewish faction over another, dictating who you follow by who they hate.
	No greater way to reverse psychology.
	Sorry, no greater way to reverse psychology into tricking everybody to following who you want them to by pretending that you don't want them and that he hates you.
	It's like textbook controlled opposition reverse psychology.
	Yes.
	And so you find anti-Semitism in the book of John.
	There's no doubt about it.
	You know, it's like all the disciples are hiding from the Jews and all of this, you know, Jesus going after them or so on.
	But it is Judaism 2.0.
	It's the Alf Hebung.
	That is the cancellation, but also fulfillment at the same time of Judaism.
	You're fulfilling Judaism by moving past it and by having this new enemy, which is the Pharisee.
	And so it's like when you find right-wingers where they're like, well, you know, I don't like that Karl Marx or Sigmund Freud or whatever, but you know, those Israelis, they're based, you know, that kind of thing.
	What he's basically, he's basically siding with the Pharisees in a way.
	But again, it's that twirling caduceus that he's with.
	So it's one or the other.
	Are you Jesus?
	Are you Pharisees?
	Are you Pharisees?
	Are you Jesus?
	You're always making that choice as opposed to genuinely breaking out of it.
	Yeah, the dialectic, the Judeo-paradigm, Abrahamic dialectic.
	And it's like Christianity is not fighting against Judaism.
	It's fighting within Judaism.
	Right.
	It needs Judaism.
	It needs the Pharisees to kill Jesus, in fact.
	I mean, that's the other kind of weird thing.
	I remember hearing this story of, I think it was like when Clovis was converted to Catholicism and someone was telling him the basic stories.
	And he said, well, you know, Jesus never would have been killed if me and my men were over there.
	Some kind of like boast like this.
	Well, that's he's he's not fully, he did convert, but he's not fully grasping this like caducean twirl as it is.
	Because you need to love the Pharisees.
	You need to embrace the Pharisees for you to be saved because there is no salvation for you.
	You deserve the wrath of God, not only for the sins that you have done in your life, but for the fact that you were born in sin.
	You can't escape it, in fact.
	You are deserving of his punishment.
	And so the Pharisees are integral to saving you.
	You need to, in a way, love them in this way.
	And it's when you have that over-determined quality where it's like both sides are reinforcing one another.
	That's when you know you're trapped in the caduceus.
	Caduceus has tricked Gentiles who became Christians into calling any other Gentile that doesn't want to believe, bow down to the king of the Jews, Jesus.
	You're with the Pharisees.
	You reject Jesus.
	You're a Jew.
	So anybody that doesn't worship the king of the Jews and worship the Jewish God and believe that the Jews were once chosen is now a Jew.
	And that's what they do.
	That's the only response that they ever give to me online.
	Well, that's the response to you.
	Yeah.
	Well, granted, the beard isn't helping.
	Yeah, this is my Viking beard, and I'm growing it out just so I can out-beard my guest on Wednesday, who's still a surprise.
	Also, one more thing on this issue.
	If you care, if you're emotionally invested in getting upset that they rejected their Messiah that was meant to conquer the world, you've already lost the game.
	You've already lost the fight.
	What do you think about this?
	So I was, do you know the story of Absalom?
	Okay, so it's David's son who is his kind of his prodigal son.
	And they were talking about this actually in church yesterday.
	So I'm a kind of funny guy, I guess.
	You went to church yesterday?
	Is that what I heard?
	Correct.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Well, you know, it's open to all, right?
	You know.
	You're infiltrating as a spy or what's going on?
	No, I'm not infiltrating as a spy, no.
	It's a long story.
	But no, it's just, you know, my little bit of community that I have.
	But it's in terms of, so David's son is a, he's a, he's a strange character.
	And he murdered his half-brother for raping his half-sister.
	And he starts to present himself as a kind of alternative to David.
	He's going, he goes into Jerusalem and he's presiding over court cases and legal disputes almost as if he is David.
	David ultimately flees Jerusalem and he is a kind of alternative to David, who's David's son.
	What I found fascinating when the story was retold, and I had not read these stories for a while.
	I definitely read them when I studied the Bible in college.
	But he ends up famously, he loses a battle to his father, and he ends up riding a donkey, and the battle takes place in the wood, and the wood took as many victims as the sword is a line.
	And he's riding a donkey out of town, and his hair gets caught up in a tree, and he's basically hung or hanged even by his hair in a tree.
	And then David's major general, who is that?
	Moab?
	I'm forgetting Joan.
	Anyway, his major general comes in and he sends three spears into him.
	And so you have this image, and then David has this genuinely heartbreaking episode of, you know, were I to die in this battle as opposed to my son, you know, Absalon or Absalon.
	And it's this weird image.
	That's why I was kind of curious to get your take on it.
	But if we don't do that.
	Sorry.
	I'd have to read the whole thing.
	He's almost like a false Messiah.
	He's riding a donkey, which is basically how Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecy.
	He is hanged, actually, by it's implied by his hair.
	I don't think it says it literally.
	It's how it's been depicted.
	I might be wrong.
	He's hanged in a tree.
	That was the original Jesus story, too, that he was hung in a tree.
	Right.
	And the word, I mean, the word for the crucifix is just zulon.
	It's just wood.
	So it's just, yeah.
	So, and then you also see the kind of sphere of Langin.
	I don't know if that's, I, again, I was kind of throwing it out there because I know you know your stuff, but is that an almost image of a certain type of antichrist from the perspective of Jews?
	He's the false Messiah who's fulfilling the prophecy but kind of fulfilling them in the wrong way.
	I don't know.
	Just something frequently described Jesus as almost the anti-Messiah to the Jew, the villain Messiah or the first Messiah that's rejected and goes to the Gentiles and is the suffering Messiah that they did not recognize until the end.
	So absolutely.
	That's why they see him almost as satanic, where they say he's the reincarnation of Esau.
	The guardian angel of Esau is Samael or Satan.
	So that's why they curse his name.
	May it be blotted out.
	That's why the Talmud says that he's burning in hell.
	All of these things identify him as a satanic, idolatrous, blood-drinking, you know, not kosher, not keeping the commandments.
	All of these things represent like the antithesis to Judaism, almost as a test for them to keep them separate and for us to fall, for the Gentiles to fall for.
	I wonder, yeah, I'll need to read up on this, but I think there's something there.
	There's almost like a different type of Antichrist character from the Jewish perspective.
	Interesting.
	But we can move on.
	I'm speculating about the Bible.
	No, I think you're onto something.
	I'll have to look more into that story.
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	Says, Richard, will you be releasing Andrew Joyce's book or relinquishing the right so that another publication company might do so?
	Any reason why it has been on the back burner so long?
	Thanks.
	I don't have the rights to it.
	Anyone could publish that.
	I don't know what Andrew Joyce is up to.
	It was the book project that I was looking into in 2018 was a lot of his articles for The Occidental Observer.
	If they want to do that, they're more than welcome.
	They have the rights.
	In fact, I mean, I'm not preventing anyone from publishing it.
	I just, I don't know.
	I'm kind of went in a different direction.
	I've been focusing on Mark Brahman.
	You know, in our book, I think it's a, yeah, it speaks to me much more than the Andrew Royce stuff, to be honest.
	Yeah, I remember Andrew Joyce on Twitter.
	He got banned along with Kevin McDonald, who they both write for Occidental Observer.
	I was working to get them on, but it didn't happen, and it's too bad.
	He was on Twitter.
	He got banned a while ago on Twitter.
	A year ago.
	Yeah.
	More than a year ago.
	I haven't even looked at the Occidental Observer in quite some time.
	Me neither.
	The last time I did was when they were reviewing the Jesus hoax by Scurbina.
	Right.
	Yeah, it's still going.
	Yeah.
	Let me ask you about this.
	Did you see this new video by Tim Cast the other day?
	Tim Poole, Beanie Man.
	Yeah.
	Did you see this one going around?
	Yeah, we can definitely take a look at that.
	It's 10 minutes.
	I didn't want to play the whole thing, but just basically it's 10 minutes of him saying, like, oh, if you talk about Israel, you're obsessed.
	Let's play a little bit of it.
	Okay.
	Let's play a little bit of it just so we can fairly represent the beanie boy.
	Uh-oh.
	It's not loading for me.
	We just use NATO as, I mean, it's not, we're pulling the strings of NATO.
	My point is, I would argue Israel is pulling a lot of our strings in terms of.
	No, I think you're wrong.
	I think we're pulling the strings of Israel.
	That's the real, that's really what's going on because Israel is an intelligence and military asset for us in the Middle East.
	So when we are staying.
	How is it an asset if they've gotten us into all the majority?
	No, no, those are our wars.
	Those are our wars.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You mean, no, they're not our wars.
	He owns that.
	This guy's from Grey Zone 2, which is like anti-Zionist, pro-Russia, pro-Putin.
	But he owns him hard on this.
	And it's so apparent.
	Everybody knows Tim Pool is a total kosher, Zionist propagandist.
	It's 10 minutes of saying, well, what about this country?
	What about that country?
	Why all the focus on Israel?
	America controls Israel.
	You're obsessed.
	You're upset.
	What's with this obsession with Israel?
	You have Israel derangement syndrome.
	All the same shit.
	It's what Alex Jones always tries to do, too.
	Same exact cover-up.
	Should I play more?
	Do you have some thoughts?
	Play a little bit more just to get a flavor of it.
	See, NATO is not getting us involved in things.
	We're getting NATO involved in things.
	And Israel's not.
	I agree on NATO.
	I don't agree on Israel.
	There are some Americans.
	This shakes no sense.
	Okay, there are some, but I mean, like the founding neocons who, you know, the PNAC group, those guys were Americans, but they basically did all that for Israel.
	So I think Australia is roping us into this war with China.
	Why are we sending in ships?
	In this direction, Australia actually came in 2000.
	What?
	Is he being facetious there?
	it's so annoying that he tried.
	Yeah.
	Australia.
	Yeah.
	Australian menace.
	The, the, The other APAC.
	Why does he have like a little daily wire missile up here?
	That's weird.
	But anyway, yeah, it's so annoying.
	I can't even bear to listen.
	How is it in two?
	Did they even send us any kangaroos?
	What is that?
	You guys know about what's going on with Australia and China, right?
	Yeah, they're having big issues.
	And that's why we sold Australia a whole bunch of like weapons and stuff like that for them.
	And there's food issues and dairy issues.
	It's been wild.
	It's been going on.
	So when I went 10 years ago to New Zealand.
	Okay, what a change of subject.
	And every time this other guy in the white beanie tries to bring it back, he does the same thing.
	Well, what about Yemen?
	What about this country?
	What about them?
	As if any of them, their lobbies have the influence of our politicians.
	Our politicians aren't going to bow down to walls and think that any of these other countries are holy and occupied by God's chosen people.
	Like, give me a fucking break, Tim.
	This is why he's on YouTube.
	This is why he's promoted in all these kosher circles.
	This is why gatekeeper Luke Radowski is one of his co-hosts.
	This is just also tiresome.
	It is extremely tiresome.
	Just to talk about Tim Poole himself and not necessarily this issue.
	Do you have a history with him?
	I do.
	I met him a couple of times.
	It was actually fairly funny.
	I remember he was working for Fuse Media, and he was interviewing me back in 2016 during all of the hullabaloo.
	And I remember he was talking to me and he was like, so what do you think my ethnicity is?
	And I was like, well, you're half Asian.
	And he was like, some people say I'm Mexican.
	Some people say I'm Persian.
	Some people say I'm Asian, but I'm in fact half Asian.
	I was like, yeah, I got it, didn't I?
	I don't know.
	It's like he was not listening or something.
	Look, he has a what is it, graduate, what is it?
	What is it?
	The GRE graduate record exam.
	He doesn't have a high school education.
	And that's okay.
	Like there are autodidacts, but it's just something to kind of file away.
	Every time I've heard someone who knows him talk about him, they corroborate this story of this little kid and his tech.
	And his journalism is like pointing a piece of consumer technology at something, which is fine, I guess.
	But we are dealing with someone who does not understand anything.
	And I've seen so many examples of him talking about geopolitics, talking about elections, talking about the liberal media bias.
	And it's always been the same.
	I can't even, in a way, I can't even mimic him because I think logically, he'll like, he'll, you will know less than you knew going in because he'll misrepresent key matters.
	I think genuinely because he's dumb.
	And so he perverts, like he'll talk about like liberal media corruption while he's preventing you from understanding something.
	Like the liberal media, they don't, they'll sometimes get the facts wrong and they'll correct themselves.
	They're not, they're not really getting the facts wrong.
	It's, it's their general bias or the kind of the way they skew it or what they don't, the dog that didn't bark, what they don't talk about.
	They're not getting, he'll misrepresent facts or data.
	And then so you'll know less going out.
	I think it's extremely perverse, actually.
	And I never understood why anyone would listen to him because he's so banal and he has this like simmering anger compounded by stupidity.
	It's just like, who are you?
	What is your position on anything?
	What is your position?
	I'm a leftist.
	The Democrats have gone too crazy.
	Now he's like a libertarian Trump fan.
	I don't know what he is.
	He has no real position.
	He's just like a milquetoast, fence sitter, kosher gatekeeper.
	He almost reminds me.
	It's like he's only so popular just because like the algorithm promoted him.
	He was allowed to be on YouTube and he was safe and advertiser friendly enough to be like promoted on other channels.
	You know, Joe Rogan gave him a huge boost.
	At one point on YouTube many years ago, like I almost had as many subs as him and was like getting the same views as him at one point.
	But I get banned, I get suppressed and he's just allowed to continue ascending.
	It's almost like he's the destiny of the right, right?
	He is the destiny of the right.
	It's going to be like angry half-breeds yelling at liberal journalists, basically.
	That's the destiny of the right.
	It's destiny.
	Not him, but that's where it ends up.
	But even look at the wall.
	Like you're, he makes a ton of money on YouTube and you have a samurai sword, a like civil, or not civil war, probably like revolutionary skill.
	Replica Musk, and then like an electric guitar.
	I mean, it's like you're 14.
	You know, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
	That would be my impression if I just saw that wall.
	It's like, oh, yeah, he's a sophomore in high school.
	I just noticed Leather Apron Club, who shared this video, just started following me.
	He does some great videos.
	I enjoy his videos exposing all the Jewish guests on Joe Rogan and Lex Friedman and now this thing.
	He's doing some good work.
	I'm glad he's following me.
	This liberal journalist who I remember talking to a while ago when Tim Poole was exploding, and he was asking me, do you know?
	And I was like, yeah, I've met him these few times.
	And he was kind of a non-entity.
	I don't know.
	But he, and I was like, why is he so popular?
	Like, what is it?
	Why would you watch this?
	And he nailed it for me.
	Oh, I could never watch it, but he nailed it for me.
	So he said that there are three types of figures on the right.
	So there are, and these are very few.
	There are very few of these types who are the analyst or intellectual.
	So in some ways, Ben Shapiro fills this role or Michael Knowles or Matt Walsh.
	Like they are, I mean, I don't think any of either of those people are dumb.
	I wouldn't call them that.
	I disagree or mildly agree and whatever.
	But they're fairly thoughtful.
	Ben Shapiro is annoying.
	Michael Knowles can be fairly thoughtful.
	I mean, I don't, you know, whatever.
	That's one end.
	The other, the other, the third is a clown.
	And so Alex Jones, don't you think that a lot of his audience are kind of in on the joke?
	You know, they want him to just rip his shirt off and show off his, you know, belly and chest hair and go nuts about the lizard people or the aliens or the deep state Satanist.
	You know, like, you know, he's posting all this stuff about himself this week about, I will eat your leftist ass.
	Like, okay, you're just not as you're just a comedian and attention grabber.
	Exactly, because it's funny, you know.
	Skip Balus tweeted out all Jerry Jones said, we're all in this year, all in on old Dak Prescott.
	And Skip Bayless tweeted out all in, comma, my ass.
	So they're all doing these sophomoric jokes, which it's fine, right?
	I mean, I don't, I don't care.
	They know what they're doing.
	And Alex Jones knows what he's doing.
	I think a lot of his audience is in on the joke.
	He's a clown.
	I think Nick Fuentez can be genuinely funny.
	Nick Fuentes is smart, actually.
	He's a lot smarter than Tim Poole.
	I mean, it's not even close.
	And he can come up with some interesting takes to give him some credit here.
	He can also just be a clown and say that, like, you know, having sex with women is gay and whatever.
	Like that, I think he's in on it.
	I mean, it's, you're in on it.
	It's a joke.
	But then there's this other type of person, which is the reflector.
	And so what that is, is a sort of like actual narcissism of the audience.
	So when I was growing up, because I'm older than you are, I'm 45.
	You know, you would watch like the McLaughlin group on the weekend.
	You'd watch Tom Brokaw tell you the news and so on.
	And they were authoritative, older men who know their stuff.
	You can disagree, but you have to take them seriously.
	They were above you in a way.
	What Tim Poole, he's like, you're looking in the mirror.
	The fact is, the vast majority of people, if not all people who watch his show, probably also have a high school education.
	Dumber than him.
	And they might, in fact, be dumber than him, as impossible as that might seem.
	And so they're seeing themselves.
	Like they're also like a guy who wears beanies and hates the liberals and is just kind of has this like seething, weird anger all the time and dresses like this and has like a samurai sword in there, you know, in his living Room.
	I'm thinking about getting a Viking sword and shield for my background.
	Will you hate on that or is that cool?
	I will hate on that.
	Okay, maybe I'll reconsider.
	Sorry.
	No, I mean, it's all about whether it's done well or how serious.
	You know, it's like if you go into someone's house and maybe they have like a little bit of paraphernalia, like their favorite, they've always been a New York Yankees fan and they have some like signed ball somewhere, some like painting.
	It's like, okay, that's cool.
	Like, you know, a baseball fan, whatever.
	If you go into someone's house and it's like 100% fandom or like, it's kind of like you're a child, like you're 17 years old, basically.
	Even the fact that you're like 55.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	It's just a matter of degree.
	Like, do you like sports?
	That's cool.
	It reminds me of.
	Is there nothing beyond sports?
	Normally, I wouldn't bring this up, but I know you know who he is.
	But Dr. Robert Price, you've seen his background, the famous mythicist.
	It's like a hundred comic book figurines all hanging on his guys on YouTube who I think this is going away because Hollywood's declining, but all those guys who review comic book movies and they have like they've been to Target and they've like purchased the entire aisle of like He-Man, and then there's like Batman.
	It gets it's a bit much.
	If you have one, I'm cool with it.
	If it's your entire life, it says something about you.
	You're a dork.
	You're a nerd.
	Yeah, you're a dork.
	But it's like that, that's what I think he is.
	He's reflecting back.
	And so this is something that I've reached this conclusion that in some ways is quite conservative, which is that we need gatekeepers at the end of the day.
	I'm comfortable being alternative.
	I'm comfortable being a sort of radical that very few people are going to come along with me for it.
	In fact, I'm okay with that.
	But I recognize that there needs to be a gatekeeper media for people's brains to stay in their heads.
	You might disagree with me on this, and that's fine.
	I've never thought about this argument of do we need gatekeepers.
	I've always been expose the gatekeepers.
	I've never even gone down this path.
	But you're saying people are so dumb that they can't handle the truth, so they need gatekeepers and let the truth be handled by the people with intelligence or something.
	I'm not sure where you're getting that.
	Okay.
	It's like when you were an actual peasant, your life was circumscribed.
	You wouldn't really leave your territory.
	You knew where the cathedral was at the center of your life.
	You knew what was up and down and left and right.
	It made sense.
	When we enter, this is a Jacques Ellul argument in a way.
	So when we entered a technological society, it's different.
	You work nine to five at the factory.
	You come home.
	Your wife has dinner ready.
	You watch the nightly news together.
	You go to church on Sundays.
	You vote every two years or whatever.
	You support the local team.
	Yeah, right.
	You support your sports team.
	You don't go into COVID conspiracies.
	You're not a flat earther.
	I mean, this is one thing.
	I remember talking with my mom about this.
	So my mom was born in, she's a baby boomer.
	And she grew up in rural Louisiana, actually.
	Now, she was middle class.
	You know, my grandfather, my maternal grandfather was a physician.
	So, I mean, definitely middle class.
	But nevertheless, kind of small town Louisiana.
	She was saying that the scopes trial was like a cautionary tale of ignorance gone wrong.
	No one questioned Darwin.
	All of them were Christians, but you didn't have to talk about it.
	And you certainly didn't question the existence of dinosaurs or the fact that Darwinian evolution is a remarkably coherent explanatory mechanism for understanding reality.
	That was unquestioned.
	Now it is questioned.
	Now, when you meet those same people in the town, little town that she grew up, they're probably like flat earth creationist.
	And you need some sort of mechanism to kind of make everything make sense and kind of find a balance.
	And if you don't have it, people's brains fall out of their heads.
	And I mean, you saw this when we were locked away during COVID time and all sorts of insanity.
	Like, I think a lot of criticism of the lockdowns, of masking, of kids being masked, of all, a lot of that criticism's legit, actually.
	I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but you know, as well as I do how insane they were.
	Like, they didn't just kind of like, they went against the notion of a vaccine.
	They went again.
	They thought that the vaccine was malicious.
	It was like the devil semen being injected into you.
	I'm suspicious because it was new mRNA vaccine that they rushed through, and it all seems suspicious.
	But like, I would agree that people that went overboard are like, oh, it's, it's not, COVID's fake, and viruses are fake now, all of a sudden.
	Never ever heard in my life that viruses are fake until the pandemic hits.
	And all of a sudden, that's what everybody's saying, or that it's coming from the 5G towers or Stu Peters.
	It's snake venom in the water.
	I honestly think that the government wants to just kill us all.
	I mean, and particularly, not even all of us, because if they were maliciously engaging in a satanic virus, they're going to also kill all the kind of like conformist good taxpayers, you know?
	Like all the liberals and centrists and like mainstream Republicans are the ones who got vaccinated.
	So apparently they wanted to like genocide the conformist and then we'd just be left with like radical libertarians.
	Do you honestly think the government wanted to do that?
	Now, criticize them of the vaccine.
	I don't think we should go into it.
	It would only kill all the obedient people that trust the government and it would only be exactly.
	That's an interesting way to think about it.
	It's just insane to think that.
	That doesn't mean you can't criticize these things.
	But like people went nuts.
	It's like I saw in the chat Plato's noble lie type of idea.
	That's what I was thinking of a second ago, too.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	You have to lie to the people.
	I mean, I am an anti-Platonist through and through, but he's not wrong about everything.
	And the fundamental, you can't, like, the people, they can't handle the truth in many ways.
	They can't handle the chaos and instability of actual intellectual inquiry.
	And they also can't understand the complexity of it all.
	You can't just spoon, you need to spoon feed that to them.
	And if you want to call that lying, then so be it.
	But I think, again, the problem with America, it's not, it's like we're headed in a point where the establishment doesn't know how to handle this problem.
	It used to have, You know, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and your local paper, the Dallas Morning News.
	And they were all kind of similar, had left-right bent, but it all kind of made sense.
	We're all on the same team.
	You had Hollywood, which was putting forth a post-Christian, you know, Judaic REM, basically, a kind of mythic system.
	Now, this is something I'm criticizing myself, but to give the devil his due, like there has to be a way to make society coherent.
	You can't have, on the one hand, like multiculturalism gone wild, or people are suspicious and hate each other, but then also like right-wingers left to their own devices where they distrust everything like they're insane.
	They think their local official in their small town is like secretly raping babies and drinking the blood of Satan.
	You cannot have a functioning society where that type of thing is allowed to run roughshot.
	So, I guess my criticism of the establishment, it's not so much that like they lie or whatever, it's that they're not lying enough, if you understand.
	Like for their own good, kind of is your idea.
	Dude, you really have I wonder if people are going to clip this.
	You have our, you're dropping all the hot takes today with these liners that saying we need gatekeepers and we need to lie to people more.
	This is this all new, or is this like normal things kind of myself?
	Yeah, I maybe I'm mature, maturing, and you become older and you start thinking this way.
	Perhaps that's part of it, but I it's not like I didn't think this way when I was in my 20s.
	I maybe I was just terrified of like actually expressing it.
	That's funny.
	Spencer for five says, Tim Fool failed high school, laugh out loud.
	I'm not surprised.
	Unity 17 for 10 on Rumble says, I have often wondered, oh, this is about your story.
	I have often wondered if the Antichrist story was created to pre-demonize anyone who would try to break the Gentiles away from the Christian trap.
	Thoughts, great job, Adam and Richard.
	That's what I'm tentatively suggesting this reading of Absalom.
	It's like a world leader comes up and he's anti-the Judeo-Matrix, and then everybody's going to go, he's the devil, he's the Antichrist.
	We got to destroy him.
	But also, Christians are kind of taught to believe that the Antichrist rising, like they're opposed to it and they're scared of it, but they also think it's a good thing because that means their prophecies are being fulfilled and Jesus is about to return.
	Yeah, no, I had a conversation on Spaces with the Chase guy from the whatever podcast.
	Sovereign bra, Sovereign Bra.
	Yep.
	You know, I have to say this.
	Look, I like him.
	He's been cool to me, too.
	He respectfully will dialogue with you.
	And I give him a lot of credit for that, actually.
	I was just dialoguing with him in DMs the other day, actually, trying to green pill him on Jesus mythicism.
	And he was honestly trying more than anybody else.
	He was trying to understand what I actually believe.
	And then I gave him some book recommendations.
	So hopefully he'll check those out, but we'll see.
	Yeah, no, I genuinely like him because he can contemplate opposing ideas and maybe reject them, but he's not just like yelling at you or calling you names or whatever.
	So that goes a long way in my book.
	Yeah, I forgot where this was, but yeah, I mean, oh, right, with the Antichrist.
	Sorry, my dog is joining in the podcast a little bit here, moving the camera a little.
	But yeah, I mean, there's something about Chase and Donnie Darken where, you know, on some basic level, they want all of this to happen.
	Like they're not really, I mean, they are certainly warning about Trump as the Antichrist in the sense of you have to embrace Jesus.
	They're like, you have to embrace Christ.
	Actually, what they're saying is totally coherent from a Christian perspective.
	But on some unconscious level, or maybe a level they're even slightly conscious of, they do want this to happen in the sense that this is bringing us closer to an end time event.
	Absolutely.
	I know I told you an hour and 15.
	I just wanted to cover one more thing and get your take on it.
	You're familiar with Noor Bin Laden, Osama bin Laden's niece or something, right?
	I started following her.
	Yeah, she popped up on the internet like maybe within the last couple years and quickly got in with like the Jack Posebix and Zionist media and Steve Bannon, I think even.
	And she disappeared for a little while and now she's just resurfaced with a couple tweets.
	And it seems to me like she saw what was going on on the inside and is blowing the whistle.
	Because look at this.
	She says, there's nothing alternative about the quote alternative media.
	Be careful who you follow.
	Find independent researchers and content creators.
	More importantly, do your own research and use discernment.
	Rule of thumb: the bigger the platform, the more likely it is controlled.
	If it's trending, they want it to be trending.
	The first thing I heard when I thought that is how often Nick Fuentes is like the most censored man in Alex Jones, but they're always trending on Twitter or always in the news, also.
	Jackson Hinkle as well.
	These alternative voices, whether unbeknownst to them or not, are being used to lead people in a certain direction.
	Endgame, heard and prepare people to accept the quote alternative to what is being deliberately unveiled to us.
	And then also, she followed up with one more here, and it said, on information ops, they wanted Osama bin Laden's letter to America, if it's even his, to go viral last fall.
	They probably even orchestrated.
	This is the Osama bin Laden message to America that was blaming Israel for 9-11 and went viral on TikTok and all the Jews were kvetching about it.
	She says, if it's trending, they want it to be.
	They 100% control the algorithms.
	That's one of the reasons I didn't comment on the time.
	For the past few months, I have taken a step back from posting on this platform, observing how manipulated it is, how divisive it is meant to be.
	Also, the fact that I've criticized Elon Musk many times has completely throttled my already shadow banned account on here.
	They control the information and what is useful to them and their agenda gets views.
	Why isn't Gets visibility filtered freedom of speech, not freedom of reach, remember?
	I think they were caught off guard in many ways by the alt-right in 2015 and 2016.
	At least the GOP was, because they were genuinely freaking out.
	Now, Breitbart and Bannon made an attempt to ride the wave or co-opt it or something like this ringing that Breitbart is the platform for the alt-right and all that kind of stuff.
	Who is the best kosher, right?
	I wouldn't even call them alt-right, would you?
	No.
	Oh, not.
	I mean, the alt-right's over, but no, according to the alt-right's own terms in 2016, no.
	But, I mean, they were founded by Netanyahu in Israel.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	Yeah, that's where Ben Shapiro blew up.
	Milo blew up.
	Even Cernovich, I think, was involved with them at one point.
	But yeah, you're right.
	Founded by Netanyahu in Israel.
	Right.
	So it's, I think they were taken aback by it at the beginning.
	And it's like the best one is the one you create yourself.
	So the GOP, like the absorption of the alt-right and meme culture.
	And I'm not even talking about me because I was promoted by the liberal media, in fact, because they wanted someone who could kind of coherently, they wanted a nice face and they wanted someone who could, you know, like coherently offer a message.
	And they could say, oh, this is the guy who's, you know, wants to ride Trump, you know, into the, you know, into the sun.
	It's like, I asked you this the last time.
	Into the fascist future or whatever.
	Or like you're the real Trump base and you're the proof that Trump is all like secret white supremacist anti-Semites.
	I mean, did they even call you an anti-Semite all that much?
	Or was it more like white nationalists?
	Yeah, it was more white nationalists or white supremacists.
	That wasn't the big thing at the time.
	I think now they definitely would.
	And they'll call Nick Fuentez or Jackson Hinkle that or something like that.
	But that was a particular time.
	But the degree to which the alt-right has been absorbed by the mainstream GOP.
	I mean, I think that's really the story of the last four years.
	The mainstream GOP or like Trump, Trump GOP is what it all got filtered into.
	Well, yeah, the Trump GOP, right?
	I mean, there is a Romney Mitch McConnell GOP that still doesn't like meme culture.
	They don't have the memes.
	Yeah.
	They don't have the memes and the internet and the trolls at all.
	No.
	No.
	But in terms of the pro-Trump turning point USA, crazy absorption, absorption of the Groipers.
	I mean, who won the Groiper War?
	Info Wars.
	The Groipers.
	Yeah, InfoWars does that.
	And Tucker Carlson, I mean, it can go on.
	It's this kind of absorption of these radical ideas, making them lukewarm, making them kind of aborted abortions in a way, kind of ruining them in their own way, like taking away their radicalness and directing them towards Trump in a larger, like as I was saying about an hour or so ago, like in a larger MLM structure.
	Optics Prime for five says, if you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed.
	If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.
	Mark Twain.
	Thank you, Optics Prime.
	That's a good quote.
	And I agree, true.
	Okay, I said it was one last story, but I have one last that I have set up, and I also want to get your take on this.
	We'll finish it in another five minutes.
	Keep it under an hour and a half.
	Appreciate your time.
	This was a great conversation.
	We booked this a couple weeks ago, and this was the perfect day for you to come and talk about all this stuff.
	So it really worked out nicely.
	Shmuley Botayak, America's rabbi, has been beefing back and forth with Candace Owens, calling her an anti-Semite.
	And a bunch of these meme trolls and the bubble change, their echo chamber bubble online took the liberty to create a fake AI-generated voice video of Shmooli calling her the N-word.
	Okay.
	So now Shmooly, exactly like I predicted, is going all over the press on Pierce Morgan.
	He'll be writing his op-eds in the Jewish press, crying victim of the anti-Semitic AI voice hoax and getting to do his favorite thing, playing the victim, making quote-unquote anti-Semites look like deceptive liars.
	And it just bothers me.
	Which they are.
	Your thoughts, your thoughts on it.
	Again, which they are.
	You do that.
	This is something that I saw from Stu Peters, which I, you know, again, I don't know that much about him, but I remember someone showed this to me, and it was this Tucker Carlson quote that made him seem quite anti-Zionist.
	Like, well, why don't we just start, I forgot.
	Nuke Israel.
	That's what it was.
	It was him saying to nuke Israel and it was completely out of context.
	Yeah, it was so out of context.
	It might as well have been an AI rendering.
	It was just fake.
	And they're promoting this.
	And it's like, look, yeah, you're going to trick a few people doing this, but anyone who is intelligent is going to be allergic to you from then on.
	It's not funny.
	Like, you're not telling a joke either.
	You're clearly trying to misrepresent things, misinform people.
	So fuck you.
	I can't ever trust you again.
	Right.
	And I wrote here that we already had him on the ropes.
	He's already losing.
	We have the truth on our side.
	But then these guys for the laughs, for the trolls, handed him like a victory, an easy W on a silver platter.
	It's like, it's like they're trying to throw the fight, in my opinion.
	And Stu Peters and all of this, this Christian-controlled op pro-Putin network are all the ones that were all pumping this.
	And all it does is make our side look like a bunch of liars and frauds.
	And we're supposed to be like the, they're all supposed to be the Christians, right?
	This is Christian values, I guess, to make fake videos.
	These are all the people that are also lying about me all the time.
	And this is just handing him a W, playing into their anti-Semitism narrative.
	And what's so funny is like, I saw Candace Owens responded to it where they tagged her and she said, is this real?
	And then I clicked on the tweet and she deleted it.
	Number one, how could she not know that this is fake?
	It was obvious that it's fake.
	These people have no discernment at all for falling for bullshit.
	And then she's not happy about this.
	This works against her.
	This makes her look bad.
	She's in an online battle with this rabbi, and now he has this leverage that he can use against her to make us look like frauds.
	It's so stupid.
	It's also just like promoting Candace Owens.
	And so Candace says some, to give her credit here, I mean, Candace says some decent stuff about Israel and Gaza.
	Kind of low-hanging fruit, but whatever.
	She says it on Ben Shapiro's network, which is interesting in itself, but I'm glad she says those things.
	And what was she doing last Tuesday?
	You know, the first lady of France is secretly a man and she's been hiding out.
	Can she really prove these accusations are untrue?
	Like, you've got to just strip down, show us your vagina, or we're going to endlessly talk about how, you know, McCraw is married to a man and that's how he's being blackmailed to support Zelensky or whatever like little thing she's spinning.
	But yeah, it's like the one person who says something decent against Zionism, you know, then does something approaching flat earth theory in terms of absurdity.
	Right.
	I totally agree.
	And it's like, oh, Candace is becoming base now.
	She works for Ben Shapiro.
	Right.
	And then this is what her solution is.
	The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
	Christ is king.
	You want to translate this?
	Put on the glasses, the they live glasses.
	The fear of the Jewish God, the God of Israel, is wisdom.
	And Moshiach, The king of the Jews is king.
	That's what she's saying.
	Ben Shapiro hires all Christians.
	They all promote Christianity.
	Ben Shapiro says, oh, they go, oh, he hates Jesus.
	He called Jesus a rebel that was killed by the Romans.
	But he hires all Christians and says, I want you, Goyam, to go to church.
	I want you to follow Jesus.
	And then people still don't get it.
	The anti-Zionist Christians, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, John Hagee, they all have the same solution, and it's more Jesus, more of the problem, more Judaism for Gentiles.
	Sorry, interrupt.
	Go ahead.
	No, it's fine.
	It is fascinating.
	I'm not even quite sure what to make of it in terms of Candace's continued employment with the Daily Wire.
	Do you think she because look, sometimes the Gollum can run amok.
	That's actually the whole myth of the Gollum: is that he runs amok, and I think the rabbi deactivates him at the last minute just before the Sabbath or something like this.
	So sometimes things can get out of hand.
	I mean, do you think that Candace is getting out of hand?
	That they wanted, they were willing to tolerate at very least, like a little bit of criticism here and there.
	Or do you take the idea that I guess I'm almost prone to which is or inclined to, which is it's all kind of like fake.
	Like she's creating, she's, she's saying something that's just fucking obvious, which is that there's a bloodbath in Gaza.
	It's like, thank you.
	And, you know, that's kind of easy, actually.
	And then she's kind of throwing these turds in the punch bowl, like Brigitte Macron is a man and Christ is king, etc.
	It's co-opting the opposition by putting out a little bit of truth to lead the opposition.
	And she was with Charlie Kirk over in Jerusalem when they're opening the embassy, talking about how biblical it is and how amazing it is.
	She got promoted early on and propped up by Dennis Prager and all the kosher usual suspects.
	And now she's working.
	She's working on InfoWars.
	She did, yeah.
	Paul Joseph Watson.
	Or actually, even further, I think, not that I'm implicating him, but Gamergate and Ethan Ralph, even I think, was one of the first people to ever interview her.
	But I mean, it's not like she became famous from that.
	But yeah, InfoWars was one of the first to really give her the big springboard for her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Anyway, that's all I have for today.
	Give your plugs where people can find you, watch more, your podcast.
	Final parting words for us.
	Thanks for coming.
	Go subscribe to Substack.
	So it's Alexandria.
	You can find it.
	Go to Twitter.
	That's the easiest place.
	It's Richard B. Spencer on Twitter.
	And my Substack is in the bio.
	And I was looking at your Twitter today.
	Did you just get a huge bump on Twitter?
	Like, I'm pretty sure you had like, oops.
	I want to say you had like 79,000 followers and you're up to almost 85 now.
	Did you just have a recent growth?
	It's been a little bit of a sustained growth.
	Yeah.
	It was, I won't go into my Twitter history.
	I haven't been tweeting a lot recently, been dealing with family stuff.
	But yeah, I don't, I mean, I'm kind of ambivalent about the whole Elon regime in many ways.
	I can criticize Elon a lot.
	I think it I also was clearly throttled because I sat at 75,000 followers for like ever.
	I noticed that.
	Everybody else is just exploding, right?
	But you're just getting trolled everywhere that about Swiss cheese and mushroom burgers.
	And you're not on the Trump train.
	You're exposing your past history with pro-Putin-Dugan networks and stuff.
	So it's like you're persona non grata now because of that.
	You're not going along with the program anymore is kind of the way I see it.
	It's fine, though.
	I like it.
	I'm not going to be on their team.
	I'm not going to be on their team and I'm not going to be on the Trump team in 2024.
	I'm just simply not.
	I was, I don't know.
	I think I hated Ron DeSantis so much that I was almost like anti-anti-Trump or something.
	I just found Ron DeSantis so repellent in so many ways that I don't, it's not even worthwhile going into because he's irrelevant now.
	But, and I do kind of feel that Trump is, he is expressing something bigger.
	I do think that he might very well lead us to a constitutional crisis.
	So I have a certain respect for this madness, but I'm not going to sign off on it.
	I'm not going to pretend that he isn't what he's not.
	He has no coherent political program whatsoever outside of Zionism.
	There it is.
	And Joe Biden does.
	So there it is.
	All right.
	Well, I think either way, Trump's going to be back in, but you'll have to be back on in a while when all of this unfolds some more.
	I enjoyed talking with you.
	And maybe we'll see you on that panel next week.
	I don't know.
	I just threw that out to you.
	You'll have to think about it, I guess.
	I'll do it.
	Okay, cool.
	I don't have to think about it.
	I'll do it.
	Awesome.
	I'll let Ethan know.
	That's the...
	That is the 27th.
	I think it's next Wednesday.
	It's a Wednesday.
	Yeah, I can do next Wednesday.
	Guys, I have a huge guest on Wednesday.
	It's going to be epic.
	Everybody tune in.
	Surprise guest is going to be a big one.
	It's going to be a debate and could be very heated.
	Who knows?
	But definitely tune in for that.
	Look forward to see what everybody has to say in the comments.
	Appreciate you all.
	Thank you all for the support.
	And I'll see you again in a couple of days.
	Everybody take care.
	Thank you, Richard, and I'll talk to you again soon.
	Talk to you later.
	Bye.
	We'll be right back.
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