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	Adam Green here with no more news.
	It is Tuesday, April 18th, 2023.
	And joining me today, I have a great guest, a returned guest.
	He has been having some hilarious, quote-unquote, blasphemous Christian comedy lately.
	He is the most banned comedian in America.
	I've been watching his hilarious videos, making fun of the small hats, the grabblers, the churchians, the Christians.
	And given that my interest is the Judeo-Christian temple cults, his comedy, making fun of Christians, making fun of Jews, I've been really quite fond of it.
	It's given me a lot of great laughs.
	I've been looking forward to speaking with him again.
	It's been eight months.
	He is back on the show, Mr. Owen Benjamin.
	What's up, man?
	Thanks for having me.
	That's a great intro.
	That's really nice of you.
	I appreciate it.
	Well, of course, I mean, you know that I get a kick out of, you know, you're making fun of these same Christians that are attacking me and that I'm having debates with and stuff.
	So like your debate that you had on the Trinity recently, I thought your opening statement was hilarious, but also very persuasive, calling out their obfuscation, the sophistry, the cult-like mentality.
	It's awesome.
	Yeah, and then he proceeded to go ahead and do everything I said, then have a complete nervous breakdown and try and sabotage my entire community.
	So it was like, it was just like just watching it happen in reality was pretty amazing.
	Because I think a lot of this stuff has to do with just accepting something that is clearly not possible.
	It's kind of like how to get into these things.
	And I was telling people on a stream recently, I'm like, I'm not an oath guy.
	Like, I don't do secret oaths.
	I don't accept things that I don't believe are true.
	Like, I don't give up my free will.
	But if you're gonna, like, you might as well go into like Freemasonry and be like a governor or movie star or something.
	It's like these Catholics, it's like, what are they gonna get?
	They're gonna get a fucking red dress and they can like bang a dude.
	It's like, I just don't get where it goes, you know?
	Like, if you're gonna accept some horse shit, you might as well do something fun with it, you know?
	They definitely accept some horse shit.
	And you've been calling out the slaughtering the sacred cows, trying to break the spells.
	It's interesting for you to talk to me probably because usually you're attacked by the Christians that you're not Christian enough.
	You're not the right type of Christian.
	But with me, you know, my criticism where I disagree is that you're too Christian.
	And that last time you kind of described our talk as I was testing your faith.
	So I don't want to do that.
	But at the same time, I'm a bit of a spellbreaker myself.
	And I'm trying to break the Abrahamic spell.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Because I wanted to talk to you about that too, about like what the purpose of religion is.
	Because for me, it's not like a super emotional thing where it's like, oh, Jesus touched my face and now I'm healed.
	Like for me, it's more of like a metaphysical claim on law, you know, where it's like with, because everybody has a religion.
	And we're not going to get into NASA.
	I know that you got your telescope and everything, but like I got my dogma, right?
	My NASA dogma.
	But what I've noticed is like, we all are programmable by stories.
	And I think it gets almost the most dangerous when you think you're not, it's not possible to be programmed because then someone gets into like CrossFit is their religion or like money or like the moon landing or something.
	It's like, it's, that's why I've kind of accepted that we do kind of follow stories.
	And every time I think I'm out, I'm not out.
	I get drawn back into another story.
	And so, you know, I like for a civilization to exist with laws, you kind of have to draw from like a metaphysical claim on a story.
	And without that, it pretty much descends into cock shopping.
	You sound a lot like Jay Dyer right now, which is one of your punchlines usually.
	Do I need to read a 300-page book by Jay Dyer?
	No, don't ever.
	That's like, that's like my N-word is coming.
	Are you giving me some presuppositions right now, Owen?
	How dare you?
	No, I'm not presupposition.
	I'm just saying like how society functions, you know, because it's, I'm like a sacred cow guy too.
	I mean, I mean, the blood, wine shit is obviously so much of it is just so obviously retarded.
	But like, what do you do when you take it?
	And then what do you, so what story do people go on?
	Because everyone just gravitates towards the story.
	It's like everyone thought that they could be above religion and then they got really into like science as a religion.
	Because the end times for science is now climate change, where it's like the seas will rise and kosher eating is veganism.
	And, you know, it's like the original sin is like Hitler or like, I don't know.
	They just kind of like keep functioning as religions.
	And so that's why I think it's kind of an interesting topic to, you know, free your mind, but accept like that we all kind of function in a script in a sense, you know?
	Well, that's always what I say the Bible is.
	It's a blueprint.
	It's a script.
	You've got your villains and your heroes.
	You've got your Jesus versus your Satan.
	You have the third act where Christianity went from hating the Jews to now being the Jews' greatest servants and then them coming together for their end times prophecies.
	Don't you see it as uh-oh, we just we just cut out.
	I've been having internet problems, so we'll have to reconnect here.
	Hermannuetics.
	All right.
	We're back.
	Yeah, we dropped the call.
	My internet's been having issues lately.
	That's what I always say.
	We're talking about the script situation.
	That's right.
	What were you saying?
	Nothing.
	I said something about that it's a script.
	It's a blueprint that they're following.
	And you said, like, what do I think is the purpose of religion?
	I would ask, what do you think is the purpose of the Abrahamic faiths and the chosen people and the God of Israel?
	I think it's, I think it's laws.
	I don't know the purpose.
	I think we all gravitate towards a religion, whether we want to admit it or not.
	I've never actually met an atheist because they all like will look up.
	I know that this is probably a touchy topic for a lot of people, but when you look at the evidence that we're standing on a ball spinning a thousand miles an hour, it's pretty religious, you know?
	And same with viruses, same with all kinds of stuff, that there's invisible demons floating around in between us.
	And if we don't cover our face with piety, our grandmother dies.
	It's like we're looking at religions everywhere.
	And so the Abrahamic religion, the how dare you blood stuff, you know, it's like everybody does this shit.
	And that's what I really wanted to talk to you about today, because we can obviously make fun of the guys in the dresses and the boner hats and everything.
	But like, what do We do when we're past it?
	Like, where do we go with it?
	Because that's why I don't think I can ever really get past religion.
	That's why I was so like, people used to call me a Christian grifter.
	And I'm like, no, I'm authentically pursuing this because I resonate with a lot of Jesus' teachings.
	I don't resonate that he's his own father or he died for me because I'm bad or that I have to, like, my baby is born bad and I need to have a boner hat guy tell me he's good.
	Like those, like, I've always had a free view of my faith, but I do have faith that I was created by God and I wasn't from retarded space monkeys and an explosion in the middle of nothing.
	Like the scientific big bang space, retard space monkey religion is just as crazy, if not way crazier because they're saying that like pond scum fucked until everyone got so retarded that a human eyeball existed and we could create engines.
	It's just like, that isn't real.
	So I don't, I've been, I'm, you know, I don't have the answer.
	And I know that you know that I'm an authentic guy.
	It's like, I wish I could tell you like I know the answer, but I don't.
	And I'm always trying to find it, you know?
	Do you really think it's a more believable story, though?
	Adam and Eve and Eve coming from a rib and the magical tree and being seduced by the serpent.
	And then you got to have the blood magic atonement ritual to be forgiven.
	Like that's that seems just like obvious Jewish fairy tales to me.
	And at least with science, they're like trying to figure out how things really are.
	Well, I think the Adam and Eve thing and the tree of life, I think a lot of that was metaphor.
	I don't think anyone came from a rib.
	Like I don't think a rib broke off a guy and a woman blasphemy.
	He doesn't believe in the ribs.
	Burn him, burn the heretic.
	Well, that's what I wanted to relate to you on because it's like, I used to think the Jews were like the number one culprits.
	And I get way more shit from Christians than Jews.
	Like, I think a lot of Jews are like pretty chill these days.
	Like the Christians, I'm like, dude, if the Catholics had control, I would be literally tied to a post being burned alive because I'm questioning their stupid fucking, because the thing I'm questioning the most is like wine being literally turned into blood.
	And then you think it's a great idea to drink human blood.
	Like that to me is so preposterous where it's like, oh, this, I'm like, no, I just taste it because I was raised Catholic.
	I'm like, that's still fucking wine.
	Like that guy's lying.
	Like, I might be partially autistic.
	I think me and you might be a little, are both a little autistic because we're like, that guy's lying.
	I know he's lying.
	And we won't let go or like dogs.
	Like, I relate to you on that.
	We're like, Alex Jones, I can now tell you're lying and I will never let go of that.
	I'm the same way.
	But as soon as they said that it was now blood, I'm like, I had a broken nose and I tasted my own blood and I puked.
	I'm like, that's not fucking blood.
	And even if it was blood, I would not want to drink human blood because I'm not a fucking cannibal.
	This has to be a metaphor, you know?
	You've got really hilarious bits on the blood magic, on Paul, on the Trinity, on the Pope and the Catholic Church.
	Like, I suggested you do a whole special.
	The Jews will let you back into Hollywood.
	You could go do a Netflix special making fun of Christians called How Dare You, going over all these things.
	That would go over real well.
	But then the next one would be called Wooden Doors or some shit.
	They'd kick me back out again.
	You've really triggered all the branches of Christianity, though.
	Protestants, then the Catholics, and then now the Ortho Bros, most recently.
	Yeah, the Ortho Bros are getting real nasty.
	I mean, those Ortho, I mean, I'm friends with some Ortho Bros here that are fine, normal guys, but like the online Ortho Bro community, I mean, they will make the Jews look fucking reasonable.
	You know, they're just like, because my whole point is, I'm like, then who did Jesus pray to if he was his own father?
	That was the question that really threw Jim Bob for a loop and sent him on a pretty manic episode because he said Jesus didn't pray was his answer because there is no answer.
	It's a fucking ridiculous thing to say that somebody, because that's how I usually know that someone's, that people don't actually know.
	It's like a belief system.
	And I'm not saying they're lying, but they haven't analyzed it because they're like, I'm like, so who did Jesus pray to?
	And everybody has a fucking different answer.
	They're like, he didn't pray.
	That's what he said.
	He said Jesus didn't pray.
	He fulfilled.
	And I said, oh, so Jesus did not pray.
	He fulfilled.
	And then they're like, yeah.
	And then everybody's like, oh, that was the wrong answer.
	Like when the Ortho Bros then huddle up and they go, oh, how dare you?
	That was the wrong answer.
	Then they're all like, then they pretend they didn't say it.
	And then they just say something else.
	Like they're not actually pursuing the truth, you know?
	Exactly.
	I saw you talking about the Ortho Bros, how they do appeal to authority, right?
	You're not allowed to read the scriptures and think for yourself.
	That's sola scriptura.
	That's bad because God's word is so unclear that you need weirdos in robes with funny hats and staffs with serpents on them to explain to you what the Bible means.
	So I went and bought the Orthodox study Bible.
	I wanted to share this with you.
	There's a chapter in the beginning.
	How to read the Bible.
	You know I do my research.
	How to read the Bible.
	It says, first of all, we see scriptures as inspired by God.
	And so we approach it in spirit of obedience.
	If they're telling you, all right, you're going to read this book and you're going to be obedient to what it says and don't use your brain and don't question and don't go against authority and listen to whatever apologics, apologetics, pill pull, hermeniuetics that they have.
	It says, listen how culty this is, okay?
	This is the official Orthodox Bible.
	We submit individual opinions, whether our own or those of the scholars, to the judgment of the church.
	And then it says...
	Because that's the thing is I do believe in God and like a great creator.
	And that, you know, it's everywhere.
	Like every aspect of our life is what we have to obey to, not some guy in a fucking dress telling me that I need his permission to have a baby that isn't born in sin.
	You know, we agree on that.
	Anyway, keep going with this.
	So what do you think?
	I asked you before, what do you think is the purpose of the Abrahamic religions and Yahweh and his chosen people?
	Like, what's the end game for them?
	Well, I think there's a lot of them.
	I think you have your, you know, your evangelical, Judeo-Christian, you know, little team up with like the Ben Shapirus teaming up with, I don't even know what their names are anymore, like the Billy Graham types, where they're doing some kind of weird fucking endgame play for global dominance.
	I don't even think they believe this shit.
	Like, I really don't.
	I think that they're, they're doing some like weird SNM, like pit and pedestal situation where it's like, you're the dirty boy.
	We serve the dirty boy.
	No, no, you're the dirty boy, you know, because it's all so far away from so many of like Jesus' teachings of like the kingdom of God is within.
	And, you know, basically just be like simple and, you know, seeking you shall find.
	Like a lot of the Bible is pretty simple.
	A lot of the Old Testament.
	I think some of it's horrifying.
	Like some parts where it's like, you know, turn their children to ash and blood and all that.
	So don't get me wrong.
	Like I'm not saying the whole fucking thing is like this beautiful way I want to live my life.
	And I do think there's been some grabbling.
	But I think that if I was to say that the people that are the most honest and sincere are using, you know, using this religion as a way to live a better life and have a connection to their history.
	However, you know, I think the Nicene Creed and some of these things were grabbles where they took Jesus' story and applied it to Rome and applied it to empire and applied it to conquest.
	And now we have these like weird power plays where I'm looking at these people and I realize that they don't believe it.
	You know, I don't think that they even believe what they're saying they believe.
	I think they're just trying to use these emotional triggers to get political power.
	And I don't really think it's working very well.
	I think that, you know, the NASA religion started by, you know, JPL.
	And I used to, I've been to, I've been to this whole realm.
	I used to do a physics podcast at Caltech and everything.
	It was started by, you know, a black magician, the guy who started Scientology, fucking Walt Disney and some Nazis, you know.
	And so they did a Trinity on the Moon with Neil Buzz and Collins.
	They have their own miracles.
	They have their own fucking thing.
	And I think that that is actually more of a powerful religion now than the Judeo-Christian spellcraft because, like, you know, when Fauci said, be afraid for two and a half years, nobody went to church and communed with their Lord because their Lord is now on their TV screen.
	So I don't know, man.
	I mean, I know I'm rambling a little bit, but I think that the purpose, if I was to give them the benefit of the doubt, that there are a group of people that were struggling and attempting to figure out this world and how to survive and how to not be, you know, constantly killed in war and famine, all this shit.
	And so they felt that this was their divinely inspired history to live a better life.
	And I think there's other people that use it as a way to brainwash people and turn them into slaves and try and rule the world, you know?
	And I think that it's a spectrum and that's pretty much how it's used.
	And I think science as a religion does the same thing.
	It skin suits it.
	You have this great scientific method that clearly does awesome engineering.
	You know, a lot of my family members are engineers.
	Science is great in the sense of the scientific method, experimentation, all this.
	Theoretical physicists or sci-fi authors, most of them are pedophiles.
	Arthur C. Clarke had to move to Sri Lanka because he was such a boy crazy freak.
	And so these guys come up with stuff like Einstein fucked his cousin.
	The guy's a mess, can't tie his shoes.
	And so he's telling me that the observable effect of gravity is because existence bends space-time, even though you can't prove that, but he swears it's true.
	And he fucked his cousin.
	So it's like, this is where I'm at, where I'm balancing out these worlds where you have, you know, the Judeo-Christian world that's obviously at the spectrum, but then you have the science world does the same thing.
	They take something authentic.
	Like, I think the message of Jesus is authentic and good.
	They skin suit it.
	They pretend that they're into it.
	And then they slowly turned it into an empire and they use it to create slaves and NGCs.
	And so that's why I think the idea of religion is even bigger than just, you know, what Ben Shapiri's up to.
	I see the end game and the whole purpose of Yahweh is to have, well, it says it all over the Old Testament, to have all of the nations worship the God of Israel.
	That's the end goal, basically.
	And so I see Christianity as the fulfillment of that agenda because it got all of the nations to worship the king of the Jews, the Torah Messiah and the God of Israel.
	So that's.
	But do you think people worship it, though?
	Or do you think they worship money?
	Christians, they worship Jesus.
	They're Jesus junkies.
	Do you think so for real, though?
	I know they say they are, but like during COVID, I saw that they're not Christian.
	What's that?
	I'm sure a lot of people fake it because they just go along to get along.
	And because if you don't fake it and you call them out with how crazy they are, how vicious they are attacking.
	You talked about like how malicious they can be to you.
	They do the same thing to me.
	You don't worship the king of the Jews.
	They call you a Jew non-stop.
	You don't want to worship the, you don't believe in the God of Israel.
	Their only comeback is to call you a Jew.
	It's just, it's complete insanity.
	And so the Christians are calling me a Jew, and then the people on the other side, the Gaytheists, are calling me a Nazi.
	Neither are true.
	You get the same thing.
	No, no, no.
	I enjoy you, man.
	I was wrong about you, too.
	In the beginning, I thought you were like a Nazi guy, and you're a very reasonable guy.
	You know, we could argue about NASA, though, but your religious stuff, I think, is pretty on point.
	Well, thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	I definitely am obsessed with this and have done a lot of research.
	So also, I see Jesus as the like theological conquest of the nations.
	Like it was the prophecy that he was to be rejected and then go to the Gentiles.
	He was meant to subjugate and conquer the Gentiles and the nations all along.
	So I think it's a, they did a grabble.
	You did a show today about predictive programming, right?
	That's what prophecy is, basically.
	Fake prophecy fulfillment.
	They had ancient Jews, they had all the scriptures, all the Old Testament prophecies, and then they cherry-picked and found a bunch of stuff and then used that material to create a new myth of Jesus.
	And I know you got some jokes about Paul, and I want to hear them.
	What is this people comparing you to Paul?
	I got to hear some of that stuff.
	Oh, somebody sent like 50 comparisons of me and Paul, and it was pretty funny.
	It was actually kind of right on.
	I don't know where the fucking thing is.
	I'm like two weeks straight just making fun of Paul.
	I want to hear what some of the.
	And so when you have a guy who never met Jesus who now has more authority than Jesus, that's retarded to me.
	Even the people that supposedly knew Jesus, his disciples, he had more authority than they did.
	Yeah.
	And so, and then you start looking into why that may have been.
	And I can't, I can speculate that he made, you know, churches for profit when Jesus said, render Caesar that which is Caesar's God, which is God.
	So that means you can't make money as a church.
	Like, I actually do really think Jesus was, I mean, I'm sure, do you think he was totally mythological?
	Like, he never existed?
	I do, yeah.
	But even if there was some rabbi that had a Small following that this is the story.
	Like there was a rabbi, he had a small following, and he was killed by the Romans.
	Like the consensus of the biblical scholars, they say that's all it is.
	They're this their same consensus that any criticism of Jews or Judaism and you're an anti-Semite and that Christians have been the evil bad guys through all of history, the villains.
	But even if there was a guy, they still exaggerated and embellished the stories and use the Old Testament scriptures to create new myths, even if there was a person.
	So it's still a deception.
	And the whole thing's a deception because the whole idea is spiritual conquest to get all the nations to abandon their gods, their cultures, and then worship the God of Israel.
	Can you agree with that?
	That that's what the goal of Yahweh is, is to get everybody to worship him.
	Everybody worship the Jewish God that chose them.
	That's their goal as the nation of priests.
	I think that they created a God in money.
	And I'll say, like, this is what, because I was thinking about this recently, and I wanted your opinion on this.
	I've never seen anyone like kill or die or aboard or like do like really crazy shit for Yahweh.
	And I see people do the craziest shit for money every day.
	And I'm just like, so if you think about Jewish conquest and the nations, what is a bigger conquest than the dollar?
	So you get every all the nations of the world to worship this fucking dollar and they're willing to give up their family.
	The sacrifices people make for the dollar, I find to be mind-blowing.
	And the fact they have complete control over it and it's not connected to reality at all.
	There's no gold back or silverback.
	It's like, it's just fiat, which in Latin means let, let be, you know, it's like just out of nothing.
	And so, you know, because I know a lot of Christians that I've never seen anybody, I've never seen anybody like do anything really fucking crazy for quote unquote God.
	They like, you know, they take counsel with the Bible and they think about their creator.
	They like pray at dinner.
	Like that's kind of like what I do.
	But I would never be like, I'm going to go kill someone for Jesus.
	You know, like, I mean, I wouldn't kill anyone for money or anything, but you know what I'm saying?
	It's like people will literally get in debt, go to war and fucking murder complete strangers for money.
	And to me, that's what God is now to, you know, that's the invented fallen conquest God is this God of fucking fiat.
	And it's like, so if they somehow use the Catholic church and then the Catholic Jewish fucking ping pong that they do of like, you're the dirty one, you're the dirty one.
	So if they use that to bring in this idea of the Babylonian fiat currency, because Babylon is where a lot of this stuff happened, I think that that's more of like what I would consider a God to these people.
	Because if you look at these mega churches and mega pastors and the crowders and all these people, they're obsessed with money.
	They're not obsessed with Jesus.
	I bet Steven Crowder never ever thinks about Jesus ever.
	He thinks about money and lubricants, you know, and just like, they're just obsessed with money.
	And so I would actually say, I would presuppose that their God is fucking money.
	And that's how they conquered the Gentiles.
	Well, they got from the Torah.
	That's just following the commandments of the Torah.
	Like it says, the Lord God has blesseth thee.
	He promised thee, thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow.
	And thou shalt reign over many goyam, but they shall not reign over thee.
	That's exactly it.
	That's to conquer.
	And you said Paul was raising money.
	You're right.
	He was raising money from the Gentile Christians to give it to the Jews, like this verse.
	They, the Gentiles, were pleased to do it, give them their money because they owe it to them.
	For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, getting grafted in, you could do some material about getting grafted in, how homoerotic that sounds.
	They owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.
	How about that?
	How convenient.
	Yeah, that's a gravel.
	I mean, the way you just showed, yeah, like that, that they can lend, but don't borrow is conquest.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I think it's a financial conquest.
	And then the whole, you know, like you see it.
	Like, I'll get these things in my post office box.
	I don't know if trolls sign me up for it or if they just really do send it to everybody.
	But it's like, send money to an Israeli Jew.
	She needs it.
	And it's just some old lady on the front.
	And it's like, for just 70 cents a day or whatever.
	And it's like, oh, yeah, they really do throw the collection plate around to all the nations and all the Gentiles.
	And they expect us just to give them money because they're fucking Jews.
	And that's not happening.
	And some of the biggest, you know, scams in America are these like Christian cuck churches that do this, where they're like, we have, you know, he who blesses Israel is blessed.
	And then they just send money to what I believe is just a tax haven for basically pedophiles.
	You know, all the big branches of Christianity are kosher and Zionist.
	Protestants, Catholics, the Pope, even the Eastern Orthodox, the Mormons, all of them.
	They're all completely subverted.
	Don't you think that's kind of like proof in itself that Christianity is nothing more than a Jewish deception?
	The fact that like...
	I was holding out hope for the Mormons.
	You think they're in?
	Yeah, they were founded by Freemasons.
	And they love Israel.
	They do love the Jews too.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	And, you know, I love you making fun of the Trinity with the Christians too.
	And you're right.
	The Trinity is nonsense.
	They created that.
	You know, it's true.
	This is one of your lines.
	You know, it's true because they debated and argued about it for hundreds of years.
	So you know they got it right.
	If the Christian leadership today can't get stuff right, what makes you think that the heavenly church fathers back in the day had it right?
	And oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, it's all men just coming up with this shit.
	And so, and yeah, and they're just so intense about it because it doesn't work on me.
	I'm guessing it doesn't work on you either when they're like, when they use the shame game and now every Reddit post, it used to be how I hated Jews and now it's that I hate the Lord.
	And if that works on people, then fuck them.
	Either antichrist or anti-Semitic, you get the same anti-type of argument from both sides.
	Yeah, false binaries.
	Yeah.
	And so I know some really good Christian people, though.
	And so, but the institutions, it is a no-true Scotsman.
	And I agree with you on that, where it's like.
	Because that's not a real Christian.
	Not a real Jew.
	Not all Jews believe that.
	Not all Jews.
	My version of Christianity.
	You're right.
	That's what they do all the time.
	One of their top apologetics.
	Yeah, I don't label myself as a Christian trademark identity anymore because it backfired.
	They know true Scotsman until I was like, oh, then I guess I'm not that then.
	They're like, oh, but that's not real Christianity.
	I'm like, then what?
	Then show me the real one.
	And they're like, I'm like, listen, I believe in God.
	I believe that a lot of the prophets were bringing, I think that there's a lot of people.
	Do you believe in a God that demands foreskins from babies?
	No.
	I don't think you believe in the Abrahamic God then.
	I mean, listen.
	No, of course I don't believe in clipping little dicks.
	I'm not clipped.
	My kids aren't clipped.
	No, see, that's why I'm not really good at religion because I would never go along.
	Like, if somebody, even when I was like really identifying as Christian, if someone's like, well, that means you have to clip your kid, I'd be like, no, fuck you.
	Like, there's no way I ever would do that.
	I mean, blood magic covenants, blood covenants, like, what are they?
	Witches, witches, and cannibals?
	I love what you say about the Trinity, too.
	They say it's the one thing that's not in the Bible that you'll go to hell for and be evil if you don't believe in it.
	Yeah, because I agree with so much of the Bible with the laws, not the clipping or the genocides, but like the overall, you know, about the like murder and stealing.
	We don't need the Jewish Bible to tell us not to murder and steal, though.
	That's like what the rabbis believe.
	Oh, we're a light unto the nations.
	We have to give you our morals.
	And you hate us because we give you morals.
	That's the rabbi narrative.
	And the Christians go, Jay Dyer goes, We wouldn't have truth or morals without Yahweh, the God of Israel.
	That's my Jimbo voice.
	Yeah.
	No, but see, that's what they kept no true Scotsmaning me until I was like, all right, then don't call me Christian then.
	Because they kept being like, yeah, I'm Christian.
	They're like, well, well, then you have to believe in the Trinity.
	I'm like, I don't.
	And they're like, well, then you're not Christian.
	I'm like, okay.
	Like, dude, I don't care.
	It's not like I've got any points.
	Like, people thought I was grifting.
	I'm like, do you know how many of my I had like a big Hollywood liberal career?
	Do you know how many of my friends thought I was fucking retarded for thinking that, you know, that, you know, the Bible has truth in it?
	Like, I wasn't grifting.
	I was like being humiliated by a lot of my former friends because they're like, you believe in God?
	We're going to the moon, you know?
	And I'm like, I'm like, no, fuck you.
	Like, I just, I don't ever grift because that's cursed shit.
	Like, I don't want money from people.
	I don't, I don't take advantage of people like that.
	And so just to clear the air about all that, but then I left.
	I just, you know, I still feel a profound resonance with a lot of Jesus' teachings.
	And I do believe we were made by a benevolent God, but like, I'm not into foreskins.
	I'm not into drinking blood.
	I'm not into thinking someone can be their own dad.
	I'm not into fucking, you know, animal sacrifices so you can be forgiven.
	Unless you blaspheme the Holy Ghost, you know, that's the one unforgivable sin.
	You could be a rapist.
	You could be a mass murderer.
	But if you don't believe in the Jewish ghost, there's no hope for you.
	Yeah, and I don't even know what that means when I'm like, describe what it means because they go, you're blaspheming.
	I'm like, please explain that.
	So someone can be a rapist murderer and go to heaven.
	But me wondering how someone could like fuck their own mom and be born by their own, and say, oh, God doesn't fuck.
	I'm like, no, no, if you're praying to yourself, how the fuck does that make any sense?
	You know, and they're just like, they just get so mad about it.
	So a lot of them don't get mad, though.
	That's why I don't want to generalize all of them because I do that a lot where I'm just like, you know, when I called out the mass stop or the vax and I'm like, everybody said I was crazy, but that's not true.
	A lot of people didn't.
	So there's a lot of Christians that are fucking chill and good people.
	But yeah, I mean, the institutions would never be cool with me.
	And that's why I don't know how to be a Christian because it's like, show me the church.
	There was like one church that didn't close during COVID, which showed that the rest of them were fake.
	Because if you really believe you got to drink the blood to commune with the Lord and you don't because you're scared of what Fauci says on TV, like, I think you're now lying.
	And then the one that was open had a giant Israeli flag on the wall.
	I go there with a Navy SEAL and we're both trying to like be good people.
	And I'm trying to, you know, we're going to church and blah, blah, blah.
	And we both were like started to laugh by the end because we had everybody's like a poser.
	And this dude, you know, saw a real combat.
	He's a seal.
	We're like, he's a bear.
	We're like truthers.
	And this dude keeps going on and on about war and Israel and how we have to fight for Israel.
	And my buddy, my buddy's now in Africa doing like a BOGO with the fucking pygmies.
	He's like, fuck this.
	So I wanted to bring up something with you because you're doing these Trinity debates and I get it.
	The Trinity is totally nonsense.
	Oh, three is one, one is three.
	The essence, blah, blah, blah.
	It's not even in the Bible.
	It's nonsense.
	I feel like it's nonsense that they just like, as like a conditioning, cult conditioning, get you to believe something two plus two is five and it was always meant to be destroyed because it's actually the rabbis hate the trinity.
	The trinity is what makes Christianity idol worship and not Noahide compliant.
	And it's like, it's almost like the test.
	It's testing the Jews and trying to seduce them into idol worship in a way.
	So it is their agenda, the future of Christianity to make it Noahide compliant.
	They need to get rid of the Trinity.
	What is Noahide?
	People say this shit all the time to me.
	I don't even know what it is.
	Noahide, Christianity and Islam are basically a way to prepare the world for the messianic age where there'll be Noahides.
	It means it's kind of like the Ten Commandments.
	You have to believe in the God of Israel that chose the Jews.
	And that's basically the biggest, most important rule.
	So you have to be a servant, a righteous goy, a righteous Gentile, and serve them and worship their God, basically.
	That's what Noahide means.
	But you can't have idol worship, though.
	And Jesus is considered idol worship because it's worship, worshiping a man.
	Yeah, I agree with that when it comes to worshiping a man as God, like God shitting and pissing doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
	But like or dying.
	So you're telling me that the Muslims are signing off that we have to be righteous going to the Jews.
	Maimonides, the top rabbi in like rabbinical history, says Islam is like perfectly a Noahide religion because they have the oneness of God and it's the God of Abraham.
	Do you think it's a coincidence that in the Old Testament in the story, they have the character Ishmael, who was like the firstborn son of Abraham from with the Hagar, the prostitute basically, or the concubine.
	And that's the religion of the Jews considered the Arabs Ishmael in Islam.
	And then all the Muslims go, yeah, we're, we're through Ishmael.
	Like they believed what the Jews already believed, just like with Jacob and Esau and Christianity.
	So yes, it's Noahide compliant, the God of Abraham.
	That's why they're doing the Abraham Accord stuff also.
	And so what are these laws going to be like?
	Like, what's because I hear Noahide law all the time from me.
	Yeah.
	What that means.
	Yeah.
	I haven't talked about Noahide for a long time.
	I really don't want to get too much into it today because there's another topic I wanted to get to.
	And this is going along with the Trinity stuff.
	So Jesus says, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
	Right.
	He said this when he was on the cross.
	No, they're creating the whole Jesus myth from the scriptures, from the scriptures, like what Paul says.
	Paul wrote two-thirds of the of the New Testament.
	All of his documents are the oldest Christian documents we have.
	They came before the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
	And like you said, Paul never knew Jesus.
	And he says that he learned everything about Jesus, the gospel that he preached to you, which he received from the scriptures.
	He says, according to the scriptures, and that all of the Bible says, like, and so it could be fulfilled.
	Jesus said, I thirst, and or so it could be fulfilled.
	He was arrested.
	This is a simple wizardry trick where they have the prophecies, and then they go, let's write a new story where a character fulfills all the prophecies and then get the Gentiles to believe in it so that they worship, they fear the God of Israel and worship the God of Israel.
	That's the deception that I see happening.
	Buried in rows, according to the scriptures.
	It's all to the scriptures, right?
	So Jesus on the cross says, My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
	That's the beginning line of Psalm 22.
	And it says, I am a worm, no man, reproach of men, despise of other people.
	That's like Jesus.
	All that see me laugh in scorn.
	They said, if he trusted in the Lord, if you're God, why would you, you'll be delivered, come down from the cross, that type of thing.
	And then watch this.
	Here's the kicker now.
	So Psalm 22, Jesus says these things, right?
	Mock me, hurl insults, shaking their head.
	This is like what happened to Jesus, right?
	Psalm 22, 16, they pierced my hands and feet.
	That's actually a mistranslation of the Hebrew and the Greek Septuagint.
	But here's the big one now.
	Psalm 22, the end of that chapter, it says, All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord, and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
	The Lord is a governor among the nations.
	In the Orthodox Jewish Bible, that translates as the Goyam shall bow down and worship before thee.
	That's the purpose of Jesus is to theologically subjugate the nations, the Goyam.
	But isn't that only if the Goyam worship a man, though?
	Like if the Goyam see past the shit test of the Trinity, isn't that, don't they not fall for the little trap there?
	No, even if they don't believe in the Trinity, they still believe in the Jewish Messiah and the God of Israel.
	Right?
	Those damn goam.
	I know.
	Here's another one.
	You saw this, right?
	Now, what is this?
	Okay.
	Smart girl.
	She can put the pieces together, unlike so many Christians.
	Watch this.
	Where's Jesus?
	As Jesus grew up, he learned more and more about God.
	Jesus is God.
	How can you learn more and more about himself?
	Because Jesus is God.
	That's a great question.
	So how can you learn more and more about himself?
	Because it said, Jesus grew up.
	He learned more and more about God, his father.
	Yeah, exactly.
	She already gets it.
	Can you send me that?
	That's perfect.
	Send in the priest.
	She needs some indoctrination.
	She needs some Aquinas.
	I know, but see, it's like a child can see through it.
	And that's the thing is, it fucking really does break their brains when you just point this stuff out.
	It's like, how can it be both?
	And then they always fall on John 3:16 and all that.
	I'm just like, it can't be both.
	You can't.
	It's the same with saying that the wine becomes the blood.
	I'm like, it's not possible.
	But see, I believe that people go towards a religion no matter what.
	And so, I don't know.
	It's a complicated issue for me because I resonate with the Abrahamic story a lot, but you bring up it.
	What part of Jesus' teaching or the Abrahamic story do you like?
	I like the part where we get to kill all those fucking dirty, hippie Germanics like you.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	We get to kill all the pagans and false gods.
	And just turn them to dust.
	I don't know.
	Just the parables.
	Maybe I'm brainwashed.
	I don't know.
	I just resonate with it.
	I fucking read Genesis.
	It feels good.
	Whoa.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Okay.
	Here's another one.
	I resonate with it.
	What's that?
	You've talked about this before, right, in your Trinity debate.
	How can Jesus say he's sitting at the right hand of God if he is God, right?
	That's that's one of the arguments.
	Yeah.
	So Psalm 110, which Jesus cites, if you actually read what the Old Testament, the context of the Old Testament of these things that are describing Jesus, he's the priest in the order of Melchizedek.
	This is, they're talking about the Jesus character.
	And look what it says.
	The Lord said unto my Lord, sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
	That's the enemies of the Jews.
	That's the Gentiles.
	The Lord shall send the rod.
	That's the Messiah of my strength out of Zion.
	Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
	Who is Jesus ruling over the last 2,000 years?
	The enemies of the Jews, the Roman world, the Roman Empire.
	Is that anyone without a giant nose and a functioning posture?
	That's right.
	And then it says, the Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in his day of wrath.
	So Jesus will conquer the kings of the nations.
	He shall judge among the heathen, the Gentiles, the Goyam.
	He shall wound the heads over many countries.
	And look at what it says in Orthodox Jewish Bible.
	He shall judge among the Goyam.
	So they really are calling everybody Goyam.
	It's all of, this is the Orthodox Jewish Bible.
	Goyam just means nations, but it just has a little more of an impact if you see it read as Goyam.
	It puts it into perspective a little more, right?
	It does change it a little bit for me.
	I'm getting a little pissed off.
	So Jesus is the rod of iron.
	That's what he's compared to, right?
	And it's all about conquering the kings and the Gentiles with the fear and celebrate his rule with trembling.
	It's all about getting us scared of going to hell and scared of the power of the God of Israel.
	What do you think happens when we die?
	I think I think we rot.
	I think nothing happens.
	And I think that's okay.
	You think we're just game over?
	We live on.
	We live on through our children.
	So what do you think about the near-death experience stuff?
	Like my mom had one that was pretty intense.
	Like, what do you think that is?
	Just hallucinations?
	Probably, yeah, hallucinations.
	You know, people that have near-death experiences, like if they're raised in a Christian culture or Christian family, they see Jesus or Mother Mary.
	If they're Muslim, they see Muhammad.
	If they're Buddhist and Indian, they see Buddha or Shiva or whatever.
	I think it kind of goes like that.
	So you think this is all like an accident that we're just here and we experience all this and then it's just black?
	I wouldn't call it an accident.
	No.
	And I'm not even like a strong atheist.
	I don't believe in the Jewish God.
	I don't believe anybody that says, oh, we're prophets and we speak for God.
	And guess what?
	He chose us.
	And our home is the Holy Land and you're meant to serve us.
	It's like, yeah, no.
	Yeah, I just definitely don't think it's just rotting, though.
	Like, I just don't.
	I don't think that makes any sense.
	Like, why would all this be here?
	You think that you've got to believe in the Jewish, the power of the Jewish prophecies?
	Otherwise, we're going to go to the naughty bad place.
	No, I don't even believe necessarily in a dirty, naughty, bad place where, you know, this benevolent God tortures us because we whacked up or something.
	Like, I'm not into that.
	I just, I just feel like this life's kind of a test.
	You know, I just feel, I just feel that.
	I can't explain it.
	Maybe it's irrational, but it the atheistic view of everything just goes black and that's it.
	And it was all pointless.
	I don't think we would function if we actually lived like that.
	Like, why wouldn't we just kill ourselves?
	Like, what's the point of life?
	Like, why like wake up in the morning and work so hard and suffer and all this?
	Like, what's the point of all of it?
	You know, you wake up in the morning and look at your little babies and think, you look at a beautiful sunset and eat some delicious raw milk and think, hmm, there's nothing to live for without Jesus, without my Jewish superhero.
	It's not about the Jewish superhero, but it's just like, it's not like I'm looking for reward in the afterlife either.
	It's just like, what's the point?
	I used to be like very, I wouldn't say nihilistic, but hedonistic, where it was just about, you know, sex and touring and crushing.
	And it just isn't, my life is a lot better now that I think that there's more of a purpose in life.
	Like I wasn't just made accidentally because retarded monkeys were squirting in each other in a swamp.
	You know, it's just, I don't know.
	And I think it's why I'm not, I don't even consider myself a flat earther.
	I'm just an extreme globe skeptic because I don't have the answer.
	I don't know where the fuck we are, but I'm pretty sure we're not on a spinning ball going a thousand miles an hour because there's no evidence for it.
	And it's very religious.
	And so it's like that for me with religion, or it's like that with me with like life and death.
	It doesn't feel to me like this is a pointless exercise just to drink raw milk and look at my kids.
	You know, it's like, I just think that there's a little more to this place.
	I understand that.
	Yeah.
	I get that.
	It doesn't mean that I have to like, you know, kiss the feet of a guy from Israel, obviously.
	I just, oh, I, the point I was trying to answer.
	Yeah, you're cutting out a little bit.
	Oh, it's my internet.
	Damn it.
	Oh, you're back.
	It's my internet.
	Sorry, I'm back, I think.
	Yeah.
	It's like, just because I don't, like, I don't have the model of the earth because it's almost like that false binary kicks in where it's like, okay, then tell me why is there 16-hour days in Chile or why, you know, is this constellation here?
	I'm like, I have no fucking idea, but the answer isn't just that we're on a spinning fucking ball.
	And it's like that with religion.
	You know, I'm like, I don't know what happens when we die, but it doesn't feel like this is all a pointless exercise of like feudal pleasures, you know?
	Let's change gears a little bit.
	I want to ask you a little bit about Kanye because this was the most amazing thing.
	You were telling people that you were on the phone with Kanye.
	A lot of people were skeptical.
	They thought you were making it up.
	I didn't think, I thought you were being honest.
	And then Kanye on InfoWars with Alex Jones goes, and Owen, and Dave Chappelle's stealing all of Owen Benjamin's jokes.
	How did that feel to see him do that?
	How crazy was that?
	It was pretty funny.
	I, you know, yeah, it was funny.
	Nobody believed it.
	Why the fuck would I lie about that?
	I don't lie about any of this shit.
	And so, yeah, Kanye gets in, or Ye gets in some trouble with some Jays.
	So everyone's like, you got to call Owen.
	He knows how to, he knows.
	How did you get in touch with him?
	Through a friend, a mutual friend, that I'll just leave her out of it.
	But, you know, she was like, she was like, you got to talk to my friend Owen.
	He's like, okay.
	And so I get a call and he's like, yo, it's Ye.
	And I'm like, no way.
	And so we just started talking.
	We talked for a couple hours.
	And I'm trying to get him into just like farming.
	And I'm like, dude, I'm like, you should make your own cotton.
	Because I'm like trying to get him real empowered.
	Like, I was like, you got to get the black super like powerful.
	Yeah.
	I'm like, you guys should start a bunch of cotton companies and own it.
	That would be very.
	That's what I was telling him.
	He was into it.
	He's like, he's like, yeah, man, I want to grow my own cotton for my own fucking clothes.
	I'm like, dude, we should pick that cotton together.
	I'm that serious.
	And so we just become friends.
	And I'm like, and he's got a great sense of humor.
	Dude's got a great sense of humor.
	And I just would text him shit and I'd watch him tweet it.
	That's why it changed my whole way of looking at psyops because I'm like, this is not a psyop.
	Like me a year ago watching that, I would be like, this is scripted psyop.
	This is all fake.
	Dude, I would literally send him a meme.
	I'd see him tweet it like five minutes later and then get like kicked off Twitter or something.
	Like some of that shit that he was getting in trouble for, I was sending him.
	And so, and so, you know, we're just riffing a ton.
	And he's just calling me at all odd hours.
	And it was just a very interesting experience.
	And I really do a three-way with Dave Chappelle, too?
	Yeah, he texted me and Dave at the same time.
	And he told Dave Chappelle that he owes me royalties.
	He's like, in the music industries, that's called using a hook.
	He's like, you owe this nigga, you know, and I'm like, yeah.
	And so Dave Chappelle's like, come on, man, stay up, bro.
	And I'm like in this chat, just like, this is the funniest shit ever.
	And so, and then when Ye read all my Ben Shapiro jokes on InfoWars, because Alex Jones wouldn't let me on InfoWars after I talked about Israel briefly.
	Like, so one of his callers is like, yo, Owen, I love your stuff, man.
	Cause I used to guest host Infowars, you know, when Alex was on location somewhere with the documents.
	Yeah, back when I used to expose you for chilling for Alex Jones.
	Yeah, and so it's somebody's like, and somebody's like, yo, I like that you can bring up Israel.
	Alex won't do that.
	He's like a fucking chill.
	And I'm like, yeah, man.
	Yeah, I'll talk about whatever.
	And then Alex was like, told his producer that I was friends with, he was like, Owen Benjamin's someone's never wanted on a gun.
	And then he starts talking shit about me on the stream, like him and some bitch, some like frumpy Jewish bitch.
	They're both going back and forth.
	I can't remember her name.
	It's like a dog's name.
	It's like Mitzi or like Minnie.
	I can't remember her name.
	But they're going to be.
	Mindy Robinson.
	What's her name?
	Is she blonde, Mindy Robinson?
	No, it was like Mindy Mitzi.
	It's like a dog.
	It's literally like a dog's name.
	It's a Jewish girl who's named like a dog's name.
	It's like a pet.
	And so they're going back and forth.
	And I'm getting pissed off.
	And I'm just like, and so then to see a year and a half, two years, three, I don't, I have a bad sense of time.
	But to see Kanye West reading my Ben Shapiro Jew jokes on InfoWars, and there was nothing Alex could do about it.
	It was almost like, that's why I believe in God, dude.
	It's shit like that.
	It's like this motherfucker Thought he could shut down my Jew jokes.
	And now the most famous black man in the world is on his show reading from his phone.
	Yeah.
	Ben Shapiro Jew jokes.
	That's been pretty surreal.
	Yeah, that's not coin.
	That's not chance.
	It's like that's that's a divine plan, in my opinion.
	It's, you know, God works in mysterious ways, man.
	He's using Kanye to get your karma with Alex Jones.
	What Alex thought he was doing, he was actually doing the opposite.
	And that's a biblical thing.
	Where it's like, where I don't remember the exact line.
	I'm a little fucking exhausted right now, but I'll get my energy back.
	You were up at 4 a.m. milking goats, right?
	Yeah, well, I have a baby and I do farming and all this shit.
	And I did a stream earlier, but I'm feeling good.
	I just can't, my memory isn't remembering scripture very well.
	But it's just the concept that whatever your enemy tries to do to you, it goes back at them threefold or fivefold or some shit.
	It's so fucking true where it's like, Alex Jones is like, I'm going to silence Owen Benjamin from his Jew jokes.
	And then he couldn't.
	I transmitted my Jew jokes through Kanye West on his show in a mask, and there was nothing he could fucking do about it.
	And I loved it.
	Yeah, must have felt pretty good.
	Also, you shared the clip the other day.
	You've kind of had somewhat of a beef with Joe Rogan, right?
	The world's biggest podcaster.
	You played the clip of his dad saying that he's basically gay, right?
	Yeah, yeah, he's a fruit booter.
	Yeah, I mean, Rogan's like the biggest behind-the-scenes shit talker in the world.
	He's this caddy queen.
	And like, he will call people and tell them that I'm not allowed to do their podcast.
	I haven't talked to the guy in six, five years, a little over five years.
	And it was all because he tried to gatekeep me on his show.
	It didn't work.
	The third one, everyone talks about the second one.
	That was a good episode where he said I should run my tweets past him.
	No, the third one, his whole audience turned on him.
	Like on YouTube, it was like mostly thumbs down.
	And all the comments were like, why wouldn't you?
	I don't want to talk.
	You kept cutting him off.
	Like, you're being such a dick.
	And so he's texting me frantically.
	He's like, oh, man.
	And that's, I have a suspicion that he started working behind the scenes to get me kicked off shit.
	I think he was one of the catalysts.
	And because ever since then, about once a year, he'll fucking make sure he tells everybody that I ate a pot brownie once and went insane.
	And I ate a pot brownie once, and it was before I ever did a show.
	Like the timeline doesn't even function.
	But he keeps hammering that narrative that I went crazy.
	I went crazy.
	I only went crazy.
	And I didn't have the platform to respond, you know, and that's why it's such a little bitch move.
	And he does this all the time.
	And so then when I got my Twitter back, I made sure to show because like on Rogan, Brian Redband was like starting to tell the story about Kanye.
	He's like, oh, did you see that Kanye was talking about how Dave Chappelle stole?
	And then he goes white.
	He's like, because they're told they're not allowed to bring up my name.
	Like I've heard this from like four people.
	If you go on Rogan, you're not allowed to bring up my name.
	Fact.
	And Redband just stops telling the story like he's scared.
	And Rogan's like, and it's just this awkward silence.
	And I posted that.
	I'm like, these motherfuckers are not allowed to say my name.
	And, you know, Rogan's dad thinks he's a fruit booter.
	And that was it.
	And so I like that I get to just now show that.
	And I don't have any ill will towards Rogan.
	You know, dwarves and giants don't get along.
	We've been feuding for thousands of years, David and Goliath.
	You know, I relate to Goliath.
	And that's that.
	Yeah, there's so many snakes and fucking grifters in the online space.
	To really bring out like the spontaneity and like the magic of your comedy, you need like trolls or you need like drama with the Christians attacking you to like, cause that's when it really comes out, right?
	When you're like arguing and fighting with these guys.
	Oh, yeah.
	It used to be a heckler at a Renaissance fair, you know, where it's like head and arms out of a wall and I'd make fun of people and they'd pay money to throw tomatoes at me.
	So I'm really good in the, like I'm good under pressure and I'm good when I'm attacked.
	And so I don't mind that.
	I don't look for it.
	I don't intentionally try to provoke it, but I don't shy away from it.
	Some of the best comedy comes when people overextend and they try to really take a bite out of me when they when they're not capable of doing it.
	Because I love insult comedy.
	I mean, I'm looking for a midget, you know, drug addict, fucking gay UFC fire to fucking fuck with me.
	Like, that's my dream.
	You know, it's like a dream of mine to have like a very, very short, gay bodybuilder to poke me because I have like thousands of jokes about it.
	Like I turned Joe Rogan into a unit of measurement.
	Like how many Rogans tall are you?
	Because he's 3.33 inches tall, a Chinaman's limp.
	And so like millions of people have used the Rogan height calculator to figure out how many Rogans tall they are.
	It's like, it's like, that's what happens, man.
	It's like, you don't just pick fights with giants unless you have a sling.
	Yeah, I'm a few Rogans tall myself.
	I want to play this.
	I don't know.
	I'm 6'4.
	I'm a height supremacist as yourself.
	23 and a half Rogans.
	Nice.
	That was height supremacist, not white, by the way, if anybody misheard.
	I'm also a height supremacist.
	Yeah, I don't.
	And guys with clean-shaven faces just can't trust them, right?
	Especially Abrahamic guys.
	That's why I don't even think they believe it.
	Like in the Bible, it's like, I don't remember where it says it, but it's like guys are supposed to have fucking beards.
	See, you're not supposed to trim the fringes or the frays of your hair.
	That's why the rabbis have their beards so crazy.
	But you get it.
	Just from your own intuition, you can see the dichotomy, the kosher dichotomy of Christianity and Judaism, the villains and the victim status, the pit and the pedestal, the battery, as you say, the light in the dark.
	Watch this.
	All right.
	Without the Jew, there is no Catholic.
	Without the Catholic, there's no Jew in their battery.
	It's a self-hating, dominant, sub fucking whipping boy bullshit.
	Yeah.
	So much insight there.
	And this is the whole thing.
	The Christians are the evil bad guys.
	They blame the Jews for killing God.
	They're mad because they rejected their Messiah, but that Messiah was meant to conquer the nations all along.
	Look at what Paul says here.
	He straight up says it, the purpose of Jesus.
	As Isaiah said, he's citing Isaiah because he never knew Jesus.
	He just read the scriptures and came up with like a new mythology.
	The root of Jesse, that's the Messiah.
	He shall, this is King James Version, shall rise to reign over the Gentiles.
	In him shall the Gentiles trust.
	That's from Isaiah 11, 10.
	To it, he will stand for a banner to the people.
	To it shall the Gentiles seek.
	The Gentiles will seek him.
	That's the plan all along.
	What's the definition of Gentiles?
	Just anyone that doesn't clip their ween?
	Non-Jews.
	The nations Goyam.
	Gentiles means non-Jews.
	Japanese guy is a Gentile.
	Yep.
	That's wild.
	Oh, I'm a Gentile.
	That's hilarious.
	To him in Orthodox Jewish Bible, to him, the Moshiach will the Goyam seek.
	So that's the purpose.
	But so I did a whole video, Why Rabbis Love Anti-Semitism.
	That was the title of the video.
	They needed anti-Semitism.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	No, you go ahead.
	You finish it.
	Well, no, I was just tweeting recently.
	I call the Jews on Twitter redactic because I don't want to take any risks.
	But I'm like, don't fall for the fucking super hate against the redactic because they need it.
	It's part of their brand.
	Like, if they're not hated, they don't have any power.
	They just have these weird-looking dicks.
	They believe it's their religion to be hated.
	They're chosen to be hated by the nations.
	And look at this.
	So pit and pedestal, they need each other, the villains and the victims.
	Watch this.
	Listen to what this woman says here.
	It became Christianity.
	The way Asaph serves Yaakov.
	And I want you to hear this because this is a deep idea.
	Esau and Jacob.
	That's the way Christianity serves Judaism, the way Christians serve the Jews.
	Is by his opposition.
	So let's go back in Jewish history for a little bit.
	Esop was always at our throats from the time of the destruction of the second Isamikdesh.
	Now, you could say, well, that didn't make us stronger.
	It made us weaker.
	No, it's not true.
	Opposition made us stronger.
	It made us define ourselves against the backdrop of who we aren't and what we don't want to be.
	Yo, are you there?
	Yeah, sorry.
	My internet just has issues.
	I'm switching internet companies.
	I got an appointment.
	They're coming out soon.
	Do you have Goyem internet?
	Yeah, I do.
	I have Unit 8200, Israel messing with my internet non-stop.
	If you're a Jew, you'd have better internet.
	I know, seriously.
	If I was a Mossad agent, I think my stream would not cut out 10 times a stream.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	Even today, one of the most effective tools of bringing Jewish consciousness to secular kids is taking them to Yad Vashem, taking them to the concentration camps.
	They say, Jew me down, or whatever other kind of obscenities they use against us.
	Every culture, every civilization had its own way to put us down.
	Its own way to denigrate us.
	So we were Bishvala Matzef.
	They saw in us, Hashvalim Shab'umis.
	We were the paradigm of a lowly nation.
	In every cathedral across Europe, there are two statues on the roof.
	Every single cathedral.
	One statue is triumphant.
	God is head upward, strong, robust, victorious.
	His name is Kristen.
	And then there is a statue of a lowly creature, subjugated, beaten, and broken.
	His name is Synagoga.
	You hear that?
	Hear what he's explaining?
	He's saying, on top of cathedrals in Europe, they have two statues.
	One represents the church and one represents the synagogue.
	They're inextricably linked.
	They need the evil Jews as the villains in their story.
	The villains that rejected Jesus.
	But if they didn't do that, the Gentiles would never have been saved, supposedly.
	So it's almost like a divine sacrifice part of God's plan.
	Christians should be thanking the Jews because if they didn't kill Jesus, the prophecy couldn't be fulfilled, right?
	So I've talked about that.
	Without the Jews, yeah, but in the Roman, was it the Romans?
	The Jews were just whining.
	Like the Jews were like, come in, kill him.
	And the Romans actually were the ones who killed him.
	Like, when they say the Jews killed Jesus, and they just kind of like rat him out and whine and bitch.
	Yeah, but Paul blames them for it.
	And really none of it happened.
	The whole pilot Barabbas, that's just a retelling of Yom Kippur.
	That's all Jesus is, is a retelling of Yom Kippur.
	He's the Yom Kippur goats, the blood magic atonement goats that they do on the Day of Atonement.
	And he's the Passover lamb.
	So a combination of all this Jewish blood magic stuff, a retelling.
	But you're going to like this part.
	So watch what the next rabbi says here about how the Christians give them their special unique suffering of status and how that saved them.
	Of every cathedral in Europe, that nice continent that housed the Holocaust that hated us for centuries on end.
	Exactly what Obadiah says is what is true of Christianity.
	Christianity could not see the Jews succeed.
	The doctrine of witness in Christian theology needed to show that we had to suffer.
	Right?
	It's ironically saved us because we have to exist.
	Right?
	But you can imagine ways which you can exist through.
	Right?
	So they had to survive.
	They had to exist.
	They had to be protected while the goal was to eradicate all the pagan idol worship, all the other religions that don't worship the Jewish God, and then give them their victim status and turn us into the evil villains that get scapegoated and blamed.
	Because who takes the blame today?
	The Pope, John Hagee, all the Christians.
	Oh, we're so bad.
	We persecuted the Jews.
	You know, we were mean to you.
	And then now it's not an accident that Judaism is like more powerful than ever.
	And Israel's a rising power with their tech and their Abraham Accords and their control over America.
	Listen to special, unique suffering status.
	It gave them their prophecy of being hated.
	In other words, you had to live on some level, but you had to suffer a lot because that proves that you were wrong.
	You had to have a special status of suffering.
	And so that unique status of that special hatred reserved for the Jew was the hatred of our brother Isaac.
	It's the greatest paradox of history.
	And this guy says, oh, they hated him so much.
	So do you see where I'm coming from?
	You're completely right about the pit and the pedestal.
	This is like how the Jews see it and how it's playing into this kosher dialectic.
	Christians have been...
	Isn't it kind of funny that they're fulfilling it, though?
	They can't really do the trick without becoming it.
	Where it's like, I know a decent amount of Jews, and a lot of them do actually suffer a lot because of their own bullshit they've created in their head.
	It's weird.
	It's like they create this thing where no one hates the Jew more than them and they want to turn them into lampshades and soap.
	And, you know, everyone hates the Jew, unique suffering.
	And then they do actually start suffering.
	Like they get like irritable bowel syndrome and that horrible posture and they're, they're always fucking spiraling.
	You know, that's the thing that the nations have is like joy.
	It's like, we really do Kind of not have to deal with their bullshit.
	They do get power from it.
	You know, they derive power in this weird black magicky kind of way where the eternal victim can never be wrong and always inflict on anybody, but they are actually, they've almost like created themselves to be actual victims because they're living in this hell.
	They start believing it.
	It's like when you say a lie enough, you start believing it and then you go kind of like crazy.
	Here's one more I wanted to share.
	1 Corinthians, so this is Paul also.
	He says, then the end will come when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he destroyed all dominion, authority, and power.
	That's all the Gentiles that are in charge.
	For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
	So who are Jesus's followers today?
	It's the Gentiles, right?
	It's the non-Jews.
	That's who Christianity was created for.
	They see this as Jesus putting the enemies of the Jews under their feet.
	The Goyam cannot endure his wrath.
	Let's see.
	Do I have?
	Oh, here's one other important one.
	What is Jesus going to do when he supposedly comes back?
	He's going to smite the nations.
	You know that the prophecy says for the church, and the Orthobros believe this, that they're going to be persecuted in the end and beaten in the synagogues, and that Revelation says they will be beheaded for their belief in Jesus.
	But there's a theme all over the Old Testament about treading the wine press.
	This is the Messiah that comes from Edom.
	That's considered Rome in America.
	This is Jesus.
	I have trodden the wine press alone.
	From the Goyam, no one was with me.
	I trampled them in my anger.
	Blood splattered my garments and stained all my clothing.
	For it was for me the day of vengeance, the year for me to redeem had come.
	Trampled the Goyam in my anger, in my wrath, I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground.
	That's the role of the Messiah in Judaism is to conquer the nations.
	And this is what Christians, instead of opposing the Torah and opposing the rabbis that want their Messiah bin David to rule the world and conquer everybody, Christians want the same thing.
	They want a Jew to rule the world.
	Every knee will bow.
	Every tongue will confess.
	So they're giving them like Christian cover because they believe they go, it's not the Torah that's the problem.
	It's only the Talmud.
	See where I'm coming from?
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	I've never thought about that before.
	It's like framing in a global, like in a realm-wide government.
	Like that's a little intense.
	Because then I wonder, like, how would they view me?
	They'd probably view me as like someone to stop on.
	Bunch of fuckers.
	Yeah, all non-Jews.
	Let's see some questions here.
	We have $50 from Johnny 5 says, the only bad thing that can be said here is that no more news will give you the no more news, no more blues.
	Ignorance is blissed.
	Edge running, anomaly spotting a taboo, prodding are not everyone's cup of tea.
	Religion is Rorschach blot.
	Thank you, Johnny 5.
	Saltwater Malachi says, the Abrahamic religions are the control devices for the nations.
	I think Owen will get it upon further inspection.
	He's just been getting it more and more as the years go by, honestly.
	Glad he came back on to hear you out.
	Yeah, it's great.
	Garrett Masterpiece McCluskey, does Owen think that love your enemy and hate your family are intentionally subversive teachings?
	What about Jesus saying that he only came for the lost sheep of Israel?
	Does he believe Jesus really existed?
	What is hate your family?
	Where does it say hate your family?
	Here, I'll read you the exact verse.
	It says, if you don't hate your family and follow me, basically, you can't follow me.
	Jesus, hate your family.
	Luke 14, 26.
	Yeah, I don't sign off on hating your family unless they're being assholes.
	Well, if they're violating the one thing of not following Jesus, it says, if Jesus says, if any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
	You have to hate yourself and your family.
	Otherwise, you can't follow Jesus.
	Basically, what it says.
	See, I'm not signing off on that.
	Hate your family and love your enemy.
	And salvation is of the Jews.
	Yeah.
	That's very gay.
	Yeah, I didn't know.
	I didn't know it said that you have to hate your own fucking family.
	Jesus.
	See-through it all says.
	I got to leave in 10.
	I'll answer some questions, though, if you got any more.
	Yeah, we're about to wrap it up.
	That's why I'm trying to hit these super chats.
	Let's do it.
	10, though.
	Got it.
	Other than clearly, see-through it all says, other than a clearly fictional story of a 12-year-old Jesus in the temple, there's no mention in the gospels or elsewhere in the Bible of anything Jesus did from his birth until he was about 30 when starting his ministry.
	30 is the age of maturity to become a priest.
	Okay, thank you.
	See through it all.
	Garrett Masterpiece McCluskey says, if Jesus is the son of a bloodthirsty, infantal, genocidal, dick chopping maniac, and he never denounced his dad or any of that, how good can he be?
	Sol Indigest says, Owen, you should check out the Christianity deception playlist.
	Adam's the top scholar on the subject and really entertaining as well.
	You might think about things differently after watching it.
	Did you see any of my debates that I had with Christians?
	I haven't.
	I was still reeling and suffering from mine.
	The Jew thinks that they're the only ones that suffer.
	I've had to sit through three fucking hours of Andrew from the Crucible and Jim Bob telling me I don't know God.
	Like, I don't really have a, I don't have a ton of ability of sitting through.
	I could listen to you break stuff down.
	Like, I enjoy your stuff, but I fucking can't stand it.
	It sounds like screeching.
	It's like nails on a chalkboard to me when someone's like, how dare you?
	I just, I can't do it.
	I'd rather listen to anything else.
	I know what you mean.
	I can't listen to a lot of the Christian pillpole either.
	Jay Dyer to me sounds like J diarrhea.
	You know, he's scared to debate me too on all this stuff, even though all his ortho bros were like, oh, he'll destroy you.
	He'll expose you.
	No, he's scared to debate.
	So, oh, let me see one more here.
	Did you see the Ali Alexander stuff?
	I wondered if you commented on that yet.
	Yeah, he always drove me in a weird way, but that's the stuff that's come out about him.
	I mean, it's like, that's why I always make fun of gays and talk about that stuff because perverts will destroy any institution.
	If you let people in, they're trying to solicit dick pics from dudes.
	It's game over.
	Like, it's going to come down.
	And that's why back in the day, all American institutions wouldn't allow gay men in them because they're going to be sneaky and subversive and everybody's going to be grossed out.
	And then, like, the America First thing is fucking pretty game over at this point, unless people just normalize that.
	I don't know how a right wing can normalize that.
	That somebody's grooming 15-year-old boys and their dicks.
	but I mean, when you look at those texts he had with Fuentes, apparently, man, it seems like people are cool with it.
	And that to me is fucking fucking insane.
	That's why there's, I don't think there's wings, you know, like I think that the red, the left right is a deception.
	And you know, it's funny.
	Nick is like, you know, Milo's involved with all this drama, deeply involved with it.
	And Milo did like the confrontation with you where he brought you on to get E. Michael Jones to lecture you about the ineffable Trinity.
	And Nick's saying that he's still sleeping with his boyfriend and the whole conversion's fake.
	And meanwhile, he's lecturing you on the Trinity.
	That's hilarious.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's like a low-key character.
	He's an agent of chaos, which I find amusing.
	There's elements of Milo I find amusing.
	He's like, he's like a trickster.
	I wouldn't call him like evil.
	I think he's, you know, sexuality obviously disgusts me, but like he just likes to poke and prod at people, I think.
	I think he did that intervention.
	Half of him wanted to see just what would happen.
	I don't even think it was, I don't even think he's like this dogmatic.
	Even Christians thought you won that.
	Even Orthodox Christians thought you won that debate too.
	Four on one.
	Yeah, I think, I think it was pretty, I think I won that pretty clearly.
	And Milo is like warning Nick over and over again, like Ali's trouble.
	Don't let him be around any of your young followers.
	And he's still, they knew about these text messages.
	They knew about the grooming.
	And he's still got a show on Cozy.
	I don't see how they recover from that.
	I honestly don't.
	This is a big difference.
	That's like lost territory, too.
	That's like, if you're aware that there's a sexual predator in your midst and you expose them to their prey, it's like that's got lawsuit written all over it.
	I mean, that's a fucking nightmare, especially if your entire platform is right-wing Christianity.
	It's like, that's another thing that's just been disgusting me about the whole Christian movement is it's so permissive of like the hardest degeneracy.
	It's like they post the most amount of like child trans video of anybody on the internet.
	Like it's just constantly like, can you believe this is America?
	And it's just like an eight-year-old twerking.
	I'm like, that's child porn.
	Do you not know that that's childborn?
	Like you guys are distributing it.
	Like, what the fuck do you even believe in?
	And so it's been an interesting time for me to reassess like what I believe in and what my identity is.
	I love seeing it because the groipers have been trolling me non-stop.
	The idea that like they go around and they chant Christ is king, Christ is king.
	That's the king of the Jews, the Davidic Judeo-King, the God of Israel, the Hebrew Torah, the Hebrew Moshiach.
	And then anybody that doesn't, Nick says, like, if you're not, you're either a Catholic or you're a Jew.
	So you either worship the Jew and the small hat pope or you're a Jew.
	They've been, Nick lied about me and defamed me and called me a Jew and a fed.
	And so I'm just really enjoying seeing their whole, and what do you expect?
	Oh, we're a Catholic movement, huh?
	And then you surround your, everybody already thinks he's gay and rumors about him being gay.
	He says it's, he's never touched a woman.
	And then he surrounds himself with Miley and Miley.
	Milo and Ali.
	It's like, if they're a Catholic movement, even America First can't escape the Catholic pedophile cover-ups, apparently.
	Well, I think the entire Vatican is like, it's like the Playboy Mansion for gay pedophiles.
	Like, it's like, imagine if you go into someone's house and they have drawings of little naked kids all over the ceiling.
	You'd be like, and then you're like, well, well, at least he has a family.
	It's like, oh, no, no, no, no.
	No, no family.
	Like, none of them have families.
	They're all sterile and they're all in dresses and they and they drink blood.
	It's like, oh, okay.
	Yeah, they feed Jesus juice to the young boys and go in the confession booth and tell them about how they masturbated.
	They're real interested in that.
	It's really sad.
	You talk about all the time about how you grew up in a town that was like predominantly Catholic and there was huge pedo cover-ups there as well.
	Crazy, crazy stuff.
	Yeah, it was our monstrous was also the school superintendent and he was an aggressive pedophile to the point where he had an 18-year-old guy living with him as his boyfriend and everyone's like, but he's a good man.
	He does so much good.
	And so the thing about these pedos is they like to hang with each other.
	So they bring in other pedos.
	That's why I never associate with pedos because you will be guilted by association because they do hang together.
	So this guy kept bringing in other priests that would keep the secret.
	And so it was like seven out of nine of our priests were like fucking full-blown pedophiles.
	And so when all these Catholics are always like, oh, well, we don't rape as much as public school teachers.
	I'm like, dude, you guys are basically at this point like a rape network.
	Like it's not even about morality anymore.
	It's like, if you want to be a pedophile, you get into being a priest.
	You have access and cover.
	And there's like, you have an excuse why you never have a wife.
	Oh, he never has a wife.
	He just loves God so much.
	It's like, really?
	He's married to God.
	He's married to the virgin Jew that never masturbated and hung out with 12 dudes.
	He's sinless, right?
	So he never had sex.
	He never masturbated.
	Like, that's some serious blue balls.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's all very intense.
	All right.
	I'm sure we're going to be viciously attacked by the Christians.
	They're going to be like, those Jews hating our Lord Savior, Jesus.
	So expect that.
	It should be good in the comments.
	It's all that happened.
	All right.
	Well, I got to go.
	I know.
	This has been a blast.
	And that's the thing is we're not doing this out of hate.
	It's like you bring up some good points.
	If somebody doesn't, you know, accept it, like, it's weird to say you have to hate your family.
	Like, obviously that's weird.
	So it's not that we're not operating out of hate.
	I would love to just be a Christian Republican family guy and have a normal life.
	Like that would sound great to me, but I'm not going to pretend that things make sense that don't make sense.
	And if people consider that hatred, then that's, that's the father of lies.
	That's the description of Satan is that you accept lies.
	You're like, yeah, that checks out.
	No, I'm not doing it out of hate either.
	It's out of love.
	I'm trying to free their minds, liberate them from the Jewish spell, basically, is the way I see it.
	I do think you're wrong about us just rotting, though.
	I think that our brains are like computers and the internet is somewhere else.
	Like we receive our, because when you get brain trauma and you can like learn another language and shit, it's almost like there's a spiritual internet That our brain gets.
	And I think when we're dead, we go somewhere else.
	I don't know.
	I've never died.
	I don't fucking know.
	But I do think that the whole we just rot isn't.
	I don't think that's what happens.
	And I'm not saying that because I'm scared.
	I don't.
	An eternal sleep sounds pretty fucking relaxing when you have four little kids.
	Better than eternally groveling to the God of the Jews.
	I will not be groveling.
	Great.
	All right.
	Owen, I appreciate you so much for your time.
	Thanks for talking to me again.
	Let everybody know your websites and your streams.
	Stream every day, don't you?
	Yeah, Benjamin.com.
	I'm on unauthorized.tv, twitter.com/slash Owen Benjamin.
	Now they let me back after a five years hype.
	So cool.
	I love that you're back on Twitter, by the way.
	It's been so much more entertaining.
	Twitter's showing you all the time in my feed, also.
	And you're yeah, it's great to have you back on there.
	And keep up the grabbler and the Christian jokes.
	I really find it entertaining.
	And it really triggers the Christ cucks.
	So appreciate you for coming on.
	All right, peace, brother.
	Everybody, thanks for watching.
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