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Adam Green here with no more news.
It is Friday, February 3rd, 2023.
How is everybody doing?
Today we are going to have a deep dive into the Bible.
We're going to have a Bible study with our special guest.
He is an independent journalist and a Christian commentator.
He is formerly of True News and now Crosstalk News, where he streams on cozy.tv doing Bible study and news analysis.
I'm happy to have back on the show my friend, Mr. Edward Zahl.
What's going on, buddy?
How you doing?
And what's going on in your world?
I'm doing well, Adam.
Good to see you.
Good to hear from you.
I think my world has never been more interesting.
It's funny the strange bedfellows you make on the distant right.
The funniest part is that I had the pleasure of meeting you as an ally against Zog back in 2017 and 2018.
A lot of people will give older guys like you and I crap, but I tell you this.
What's true and undeniable is that we fought against Zionism and the Jews when it costs something, when it costs something.
It still costs a lot now, but we fought.
We're veterans.
We're veterans, I think.
Back in the YouTube days when we had our huge YouTube audiences, when we are YouTube, those are good days.
Those are good days.
These days aren't too bad, though, right?
You get to learn about it.
You probably didn't know how OBS worked.
I had to learn how OBS worked.
We had to learn how all the dissident right technologies worked so we could exist, so we could survive on the edges of the world.
I like to think a lot of things in the world now happen in our ecosystem, right?
Much of the world is responding to us now instead of us responding to them.
So good to see you.
That's true.
Good to see you too.
So what's been front and center in your mind?
In the news or just what you've been focused on lately?
I'd say front and center has been the vaccine.
The defeat of the mandatory boosters and shots has been a big campaign for me, the media efforts that I'm involved in.
I definitely think the countdown to what some say is a purge.
Who knows what the Biden administration will do with their newfound $11.3 billion for an anti-domestic terrorism force.
What will that look like?
I do know that my focus, other than, of course, on trying to mentor young men, trying to do and run my own company, do positive, informing, inspirational media creation, these other things.
My focus has been the next two years, 2023, 2024.
I think, I hate to make predictions, but I do think if we are unable to, for example, have our vote count, that's the end of this country.
And that's not bombastic.
I just think we walked into a change of government in 2020 with mass mail-in ballots.
Some of the voter fraud claims were LARPing.
Others were true.
I think some of the voter fraud is real.
I think that not all of that is like a my pillow LARP and these other things.
I think that's true.
We can't vote for what we have anymore.
We do have a change of government.
And if we're, again, allowing mass mail-in voting, we have a distorted version of democracy now, which is not what you and I signed up for.
What about Steve Pachenek's watermarks on the ballots?
I think a lot of that stuff did not pan out, right?
It was funny watching Steve.
And, you know, of course, you know about the place I was at before.
You know, those folks, they saw that like it was kind of like catnip, right?
It's kind of like catnip.
Any of that stuff that would get clicks and drive donations, you know, they were glad to cover that kind of stuff.
I don't know if they really wade through it.
I mean, you're an analytical guy, so I could talk to you about this.
You know, Steve, I don't think ever really presented the receipts, right?
The proof.
Our generation, we're millennials, you know, we hang around a lot of Zoomers now, but we're millennials.
And we at least have a mindset.
We're like, okay, but why do you believe that?
Listen, okay, I can buy the whole fraud.
You didn't see a whole lot of people around, but why do you believe it?
I can tell you why I believe it.
I think people like Steve Pachenik, you'd have to look at his last name and his intentions.
I think maybe would be the first place I'd start.
With Steve, what he claimed didn't happen, right?
It would have been simple.
It was great for clicks, and I'm sure he made a ton of money off of the YouTube AdSense.
And of course, it got his name back out there, got him on Alex Jones again as a contributor.
I don't know if he still comes on.
I haven't seen him as a contributor with Alex Jones before.
He lost his credibility around there a little bit, I think, over that one.
You know, remember there was like a New York Times article, I think it was, or some mainstream article, and they kind of were like, this is how we legally stole the election.
And also, seeing now the Twitter files because of Elon, all of the Twitter interference in the election as well, I think a lot of people are convinced that it's rigged.
I think both sides try to rig it the best they can, and both sides are willing to cheat to be into power.
But this was Time magazine, by the way.
It was Time Magazine.
You remember that one.
I saw this.
You mentioned that the vaccine.
This is out a couple of days ago.
COVID pandemic drives Pfizer 2022 revenue to record $100 billion.
I guess they're one of the winners here, despite the media cover-up of the Project Veritas, what that top executive admitted and how he behaved.
It's outrageous.
Well, certainly.
I don't know if you may know this, but maybe you don't.
You know that it was our production company that died suddenly.
So the movie died suddenly.
And in that process, we learned a lot of people took payouts.
The payouts from Pfizer.
And I look at that story.
I look at Project Veritas.
So this homosexual black guy that they stung, right?
And I'll be honest.
I watched that video of him in the restaurant.
That was entertaining.
That was entertaining.
I mean, you got to be got to give credit or credit.
It's pretty entertaining.
But it seemed like a limited hangout.
That's a term that Whitney Webb taught me, limited hangout.
It does seem like a limited hangout because it doesn't really talk about the intentions behind it.
I mean, I've looked, for example, I do think there's credibility to the claims of white genocide through this, right?
You look at, I think, I forget who it was.
I was looking at someone online on this.
They're like, okay, a percentage of white women took this shot, which impacts fertility.
Okay, and let's say it is just ignorance.
Let's say it's just incompetence, right?
The net cause of this stole is going to be far less white children being born.
And one of the weird things is, of course, Africa was too poor to get the vaccine.
So they said they were complaining at the time.
They actually spoke pretty fluidly at these world economic forums and the WHO.
Like, ah, there's this politics and poverty-based politics around the vaccine.
It played to their benefit because they couldn't afford the death serum.
Not everyone dies from it.
Of course, a lot of people get injured and die, but some people get no reaction whatsoever.
They're lucky ones.
You know, real quick, you mentioned died suddenly.
I'm going to a funeral tomorrow for a guy that was a year younger than me in school that died suddenly about a month ago and apparently just collapsed on the streets.
And nobody knows What happened?
They're still waiting for an autopsy.
And in fact, two people that I know from high school in the last month, literally the girl, this girl's not aware of your documentary or aware of this, you know, this meme online of died suddenly that we're seeing all of these headlines of it.
But she says, oh, my husband died suddenly.
Two people that I know in the last month.
And I'm not positive about their status, either one of them, but they were in their mid-30s.
It's weird.
Well, it's a lot of people in this respect.
I know that Mike Cernovich, he's gotten a lot of notoriety in the past week because he's like, he's like, listen, I've kept my mouth shut about this.
And, you know, I just want to speak out now.
I think it's ridiculous to talk about anecdotal evidence.
I think it's ridiculous to talk about how these shots have hurt people.
I got lots of friends who've taken these shots.
I think it's perfectly safe, you know.
And they're like, it sucks, man, because there's two ends of Mike, right?
I'm not a Mike Cernovich apologist.
I'm also, as you know, I'm kind of like an elephant.
I keep a lot of information in the back of my head.
I remember a lot of stuff.
And I'm not too old to forget, of course, the blog that Mike Cernovich had, right?
The blog with some rather strange blog posts about trips to Thailand and drunk liaisons with transsexuals.
I think that's that true, right?
So his claim right now is, have you heard this one?
You haven't heard this one.
I remember his old blogs and nasty stuff, but not the transsexualist part.
Well, I don't want to go too far into it.
Maybe there's some younger folks listening.
I want to be lascivious at all, but the short and skinny of it, the facts are, I believe he wrote about getting drunk and then having sexual intercourse with a transsexual man.
And then he wrote about how it wasn't so bad or that there was an experience he'd gone through as a giga chat or a pickup artist.
Very weird thing to write about to begin with.
But his thing right now, why I bring him up, is he along with Scott Adams, they're completely trying to naysay the anecdotal evidence that you just presented, right?
I went to school with someone.
They're dead now.
That's anecdotal.
You can't use this.
If you think about it, what is history?
History is just a collection of eyewitness statements, eyewitness statements.
And that's what we use as proof for many things, okay?
We claim things happened when you and I weren't alive for them based on eyewitness accounts.
And in respect to Mr. Cernovich and others who deny the died suddenly phenomena, they're missing the point here.
We're not saying every single person who's died suddenly died from the vaccine.
What we are saying is there's been no investigation as to co-morbilities and the cause of some of these very strange deaths.
And we also want to point out how the public is being gaslit by the government to accept that this is normal.
Like right now, we have the stroke month.
We have stroke month coming up now.
Like flu season, we got flu month.
We got stroke month, flu, stroke season.
No, that's never going to be normal, man.
And what kind of society exists when you have to deal now with the prospect of your 30-year-olds having strokes every other week?
I haven't seen Died Suddenly.
I did see Scott Adams with his viral video that got millions of views a week or so ago saying that the anti-vax people won and they're vindicated and stuff.
And he's kind of conceding that he was wrong, but he's like, they just gave me the wrong evidence.
Ben Shapiro is kind of doing the same backtracking and apologies now.
And it is, I mean, I suppose young people have always just been dropping dead in sports games and dying all the time.
And now it's just like we're highlighting them and they're getting news circulation because people speculate it's from the vaccine.
But at the same time, who knows?
It seems sketchy.
I'm definitely glad I didn't take it.
I'm very happy that I never took it.
It was never really a question, but.
Well, for some people, they made the decision, Adam.
They made the decision based on access, based on careers.
Some of them just came to the pressure, right?
A lot of people, they're so tool to peer pressure.
And in this case, they did.
They said, you know what?
I want people to leave me alone about it.
I'd like to prefer to keep access to the stores and these other places and schools and to the military.
Some people wanted to stay in the military, so they took the shots.
I pray for those people, man.
It's sad.
I've had personally, and I don't have any more grandparents, man.
My grandparents passed away after taking the shots.
I'd say also, I've personally witnessed some of these people having a heart attack, having a stroke.
It's terrible.
I live in a community of older people.
And I talk to them and I say to him, like, look, look, you can believe what many in the media, like, we're looking at CNBC here and then CNBC, you know, these other places.
Where I point them to, Adam, I say to them, like, look, you have to realize that these outlets, they're in denial because they're doubled down into their decision.
And this is often, this is a human vulnerability.
We'll double down into things which are wrong because we don't have to be embarrassed.
We're prideful.
Fox News, there was the senior political reporter, the man in charge of their 2020 news coverage.
He's dead.
Adam, he has a Greek last name, Adam, not like you.
He was not smart.
He succumbed to the pressure.
You had to get it to be in the studios in Manhattan.
And of course, that's where he was.
He got it.
He's dead.
He left behind a family.
I've seen so many journalists.
The Daily Mail, their night editor, is dead.
So how many in their side, they've seen their comrades pass away.
They refuse to question it or they're afraid to question it.
But you and I, I think that we're going to be proven right over the next couple of days.
They must feel pretty dumb that they're like, they were told that if you get the vaccine, you won't catch COVID or if you do, it won't be bad at all and you won't spread it.
And then that alternative, they're all vaxed and double boosted and they still get COVID and then they still double down and be like, well, it would have been worse if I wasn't vaccinated.
Like it's just, they're feeling foolish.
I know they are.
I've talked to people that regret it a lot.
One other thing before we get into the Bible study, because there's a lot of verses I want to get into, your thoughts on.
But in Florida, did you see the news about the state of Florida is trying to do this new anti-Semitism laws there?
I have.
And I will be personally campaigning against that.
I do believe that it will be used as a model for the rest of the country.
I think that this is kind of like the Michael Brown Rabbi Schmooli debate.
You remember that one, right?
Where they were trying to ban passages of the New Testament because they considered it to be anti-Semitic or insightful against Jews.
You look at the book of Hebrews, for example, you're like, okay, the book of Hebrews lays out why you should not carry on in the old covenant and why there is a separation between the two.
But in regard to the law you're talking about, the bill that's being proposed, they're going to try to make it a third-degree felony to criticize or to say things which are hateful.
Harass religion.
It'll be a felony to, quote, harass religion, basically, is what the language says.
Sure.
Harass religion.
What does that even look like?
So I don't harass anyone.
Was it bringing up facts?
Is that harassment?
I know that this has been kind of coincided with the Yay Is Right campaign.
I don't know if you've been seeing those college tours, that's been very fun to watch because it's a return of these debates to college campuses.
What's not fun, however, is watching how many people in the younger generation have kind of come to accept that people like you and I shouldn't have platforms.
We shouldn't talk.
People with dissident views, people that have controversial views, that they should just be silenced and quieted.
It's safer for society.
There was one man that said this, I believe, the University of Florida.
I'd say this to the next generation: be careful what you wish for.
Be careful what you support, because it's much more serious than complaining about which college your parents force you to go to.
When you start to develop proper opinions, hold a real stance, something that could hurt you, something that could harm your career.
Or you start having kids, it starts getting serious because the policies in a society can quickly devolve to where you and your family are not safe anymore.
And I'd say this: that's what I've seen with this bill.
This bill would make my state less safe, less favorable.
I'm going to do everything in my power to defeat it.
It would actually get rid of much of our discussions online in this state.
You could technically make a jump in logic and in interpretation that even this stream, this stream itself, could be considered to be hate speech.
And look, I'm ground zero in the state that's trying to do it, and we're going to do everything we can to make sure people like you and I carry on streaming.
And you are right.
Just like BDS starts off in states like Florida or Texas, then they'll just move on to the next state and they'll keep pushing more and more the IHRA definition that they're trying to push.
And this latest Florida bill is literally the pretext is one group of clowns and goons that do banner drops and do flyers and are projecting lasers on buildings.
So those are all the things that they're trying to make illegal now.
So a group, one group's behavior, small, insignificant, are trying to frame it like another Holocaust is going to happen in America if they don't take away our free speech because of these insignificant clowns.
Well, certainly.
I think their attempt always is to mask it as protection of speech, right?
You know, they're trying to make things safe for a certain group.
And in this case, let's just be honest, they're trying to make things safe for Jews.
My question is: why are the Jews so hesitant to forgive?
They want to say that they need protection because of their religiosity, right?
But here's the thing about it: forgiveness isn't something unique just to the New Testament.
The Jews have also been called to forgive.
They've been called to be faithful.
I've recently read through the books of 1 and 2 Maccabees.
And I'll tell you this: the Jews who acted so prideful and so strong-willed that they would actually work outside of the constraints of the guidance that were given from the Lord, they were also punished.
They were punished for their pride and their haughtiness.
And I think forgiveness is a tough thing, man.
It's a tough thing for forgiveness.
But I think the greatest lesson I've learned, at least, Adam, in my studying in the Bible is in Luke 6: Got to forgive your enemy.
You've got to turn your cheek.
There's a lot of people who have done bad things to me, a lot of my friends, a lot of people, that you know what?
For me, I didn't let the bitterness sit inside me.
I didn't carry out actions because of it.
I didn't seek vengeance.
I gave it to the Lord, and I passed on to my work, which my work now is involved in, I guess, would be the resistance, the Christian revolution, the fight against things which would shut down our businesses, our freedom of speech, and, of course, the practice of our religion.
And I'd much rather be doing that than holding a grudge.
So I'd say the same thing to the Jews.
This bill is going to hurt them.
They're just going to be so busy and consumed with hatred and synagogues and bar mitzvahs that they're just never going to have any time for fun.
Making it, well, their obsession about anti-Semitism, there's a special unique hatred for them, which reinforces the idea that they're chosen and fulfills their prophecy, that Esau hates Jacob.
It's part of their power is playing this victim-martyr status.
And I think the history of Christian anti-Semitism has fueled that and played the dialectic to that, setting us up as the villains and them as the victims.
Well, certainly there is that dichotomy.
And I definitely do not give them as much credit as I think you do at times.
I don't think they're as masterminded as you might give them.
I don't know if they think it through that far.
They are very conniving.
I'll give you that.
They're very conniving.
I don't think they have much of it figured out.
Otherwise, they would have found a way to avoid the pilgrims of the past, right?
Additionally, I think the way they've been approaching it, look at the money situation, for example.
If the Jews were as mischievous and maybe as mastermindful as they could be in regard to money, they wouldn't have to extract the money from us directly.
I don't know.
Maybe they do it in a different way.
Well, they can print it themselves, but they also like to keep us poor, so we're struggling to survive instead of organize and fight back.
Some say they derive their power from usury, you know?
Who knows?
That's what God told them to do in the Bible.
Oh, sure.
Well, he told them not to be engaged in so much usury.
I'm not going to be a man who defends the Old Testament.
I look at like a direct interpretation outside of.
You are a man that defends the Old Testament, though.
Because the New Testament is predicated on the Old Testament.
Oops, that's the wrong one.
A different verse about God reigning over the nations.
Well, predicated would be the key word.
Is it predicated, or is the Old Testament a proper representation of the Lord, of God, prior to Jesus Christ arriving on earth, being born in a virgin birth and dying on the cross for sins of mankind and forming a new covenant?
I would argue that the Old Testament is less, you know, the New Testament is less predicated on the Old Testament as much as the New Testament is something new altogether.
You know, not so much predicated as in the New Testament and the New Covenant was described and the New Testament gospel, I would say, is less seated on the Old Testament, more so maybe supported, supported, maybe different than predicated.
Well, this is a good segue into the Bible study.
I was going to ask you first question.
What do you think to summarize, like, what is the goal of the God of Israel?
What is the goal of Yahweh?
What does it say in the Old Testament is the objective, the ultimate end times plan of Yahweh, in your opinion?
I think if I were to summarize it, I'd say is to be reconciled with his creation, reconciled.
He was separated outside of the garden when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
They were separated because sin had entered the world.
The end time goal is for that separation to end, that we would be born again, sanctified in a brand new body without sin, and a new world created in New Jerusalem.
And that no longer would we be separated from the Lord.
And like in the Garden of Eden, we would once again be able to walk with the Lord in New Jerusalem.
An interesting View on the Bible there.
I have a much different one, as you may have guessed.
I see the goal of Yahweh is to conquer the world and reign over the world and to subdue the nations.
And through his chosen people, they become the light to the nations to teach them to follow their God.
I think that's the objective of Yahweh, to eradicate all the pagan idol worship and have all of the nations know him.
And the reason I say that is because there's so many verses throughout the Bible that say exactly that, like Ezekiel 39, 7, I will make my holy name known in the midst of my people, Israel, the Jews.
I will not let them pollute my holy name anymore.
And the heathen, the Gentiles, shall know that I am the Lord, the only one in Israel.
And that translated in the Orthodox Jewish Bible is, and the Goyim shall know that I am Hashem, the Lord.
Well, I'd say that I definitely do believe the Lord wants to bring the world into submission.
Submission.
There's a verse which speaks about every knee will bow and every eye will see, the return of the Lord.
I'd say submission is definitely something he would like.
And I'd say a just Lord would want his creation to follow him.
I think that as someone, I mean, you're a father now.
You want to say you want your kid going out and acting all crazy.
Your kid's not old enough that crazy yet, but I'm sure it's coming.
I'm sure it's coming.
You don't want your kid doing whatever the heck he wants under your household.
You want your son to follow your direction.
I say the Lord is in the same business as that.
He wants his creation to do what he wants to do with the world.
The world would be a corrupted world at this.
We know that we've entered a world that's very chaotic.
I mean, you cover some news.
You know this, that this world is not just because we have access to the internet now.
I think truly there are some crazy things happening day in and day out.
I know me personally, if I didn't have my faith, I might be shaken.
Might be shaken.
I might be very distraught.
I would be filled with despair, not knowing where my future was going to be.
But in respect to the Lord, I'd say submission.
Submission.
And you could say conquering.
If we wanted to go in that direction, you could say conquering.
But here's the thing about it.
My belief is that this world is gone.
It's gone.
This world will be destroyed and a new world is created.
So what's the point of conquering a world that's going to be destroyed?
I'd say the devil, the devil wants to conquer this world and has conquered a lot of cities and a lot of realms and a lot of kingdoms.
He reigns over the world.
God put him in charge over the world, basically.
Well, sure, that's how he was able to tempt Jesus Christ in the New Testament, right?
He took Jesus up to the mountaintop, took Jesus to the top of the mount, the Temple Mound.
He showed him how you can have all these kingdoms.
Jesus wasn't tempted according to the New Testament.
He said, look, be gone from me, devil.
But Jesus Christ is also the king that will reign over New Jerusalem, which is a far greater kingdom.
As described in the book of Revelation, the roads themselves are basically built with gold.
It's golden roads, you know.
And of course, everyone else who has decided to bow their knee to Jesus in submission, not by force, but by submission and by will, they get to be there too.
Praising, worshiping.
I make a joke in the Bible study that we'll be riding T-Rexes, St. Bernard's, and riding eagles.
If I'm wrong, boy, it would trouble.
But if I'm right, those that didn't bow their knee, they're going to be in trouble.
You said submission.
And as soon as I heard that, it popped in my head.
Oh, that sounds Islamic.
And then I saw several people in the chat say, also, I believe Islam means submission, right?
Submission to God.
At least that's one of their top tenets I've heard him say.
It's also for obedience of the nations, obedience of the God that chose them.
That's their objective.
So I want to ask you, how are we supposed to condemn rabbis in Judaism for their belief that Moshiach ben David is supposed to come and conquer the nations and rule the world, and we're all supposed to bow to him.
And according to their belief, we're all going to be Noahides and worshiping Jesus as divine will be forbidden and punishable by decapitation because of its idol worship in the Noahide laws.
How can we condemn them for believing that when Christians believe and desire the same exact thing, essentially?
Oh, I don't know if it's the exact same thing, essentially.
Very close, essentially.
Well, let's break that down.
So what I know about some rabbis is they circumcise children with their mouths.
So I can say off that right now, Christians don't want that, right?
So that's a thing.
That's different than the, I'm just talking about the Messiah ruling the world and the end times.
Like all the prophecies that Christians believe are messianic in the Bible, the rabbis also believe is messionic.
So they're in agreement on that.
So how can we condemn them for that when Christians are reaffirming and mirroring the same belief?
Well, we're not mirroring the exact same belief.
Not exact same, but extremely similar.
Right.
Not exactly.
But it's important.
It's an important difference.
I mean, you're probably, are you a Coke guy or a Pepsi guy?
Oh, I don't say they're so much.
I don't drink so.
You don't drink soda.
No.
Okay.
You drink Red Bull.
You drink anything.
I don't want a big beer belly.
No, I drink water.
Kombucha.
Water.
Okay, okay.
Well, let's roll with that then.
Okay, so water.
Sparkling water.
No, no, water's sparkling.
You know this because you probably got the sparking water either from a special store.
You're probably not drinking that polluted tap water, right?
There's two different kinds of water.
You could say, well, both are water, but you're not drinking one of them.
You're showering maybe with one.
You're not drinking it.
And why I make this point is that while Orthodox Jews, and there's not that many of them, by the way, most Jews are either Talmudic or secular Jews.
It's an important distinction because the Jews you're speaking about that are waiting for the Messiah.
And I want to be specific too, because if you look at Chabad, right?
Chabad and the worship of the Rebbe.
Some of the people think that they've already experienced the resurrected Messiah or the resurrected Messiah to come.
Some of the Jews, I would say, are very confused.
Let's say the ones that are waiting.
Let's point to those first.
The ones spoken about.
It's not just Chabad and ultra-Orthodox that are waiting for a Messiah.
So is conservative Judaism as well and other branches.
Probably the only one that's not is reform.
Sure.
Well, let's break the knot because there are individual groups that believe different things, right?
As you just noted, each of the Jewish sects will believe a different part of, I guess, the fulfillment.
Specifically, you mentioned the ones waiting for the Messiah.
Let's point to the book of Hebrews for that.
In the book of Hebrews, you had many people who didn't think Jesus Christ was the Messiah to come.
So they said, okay, listen, this man is a false Christ.
We have to continue to resist him.
And you know what?
Maybe Christ was supposed to come already, so we should convert back because of the persecution we are now experiencing in Jerusalem for following this Christ that came and died on the cross.
In respect to those that are waiting for the Messiah still to come, many of them are not engaging in the sacrifices, which you would have seen, for example, in the book of Maccabees and before.
The sacrifices to idols, the creation of the Levitical class of priests, many Jews are not doing those things.
I would say the majority of Jews are not engaged in any form of sacrifice for atonement of sin, which was the official way that Old Testament Jews, Jews which were awaiting the Messiah, would atone for sin.
So that's already one thing they're not doing.
They're pretending.
They're pretending to follow it.
The second part of this, too, is that when they say, okay, the Jews and the Christians believe the same thing, this is the problem with that.
The Jews literally organized the councils and the court system to both convict and crucify Jesus Christ.
In the New Testament, it speaks about the Jews asking for the blood to be on their hands.
Not only did they want Barabbas, a murderer, but they also wanted the blood on their hands.
It's a very odd story.
And I know what that means.
You know what I think that esoterically means?
It means that Jesus is dying for them.
He was meant to die for the Jewish nation.
They had a belief that the Messiah, according to Daniel and Zechariah, and wisdom of Solomon and Psalms and Isaiah, that the Messiah had to die.
So the blood on our hands is the death of Jesus and the Barabbas story is retelling of Yom Kippur.
It's based on the goats of Yom Kippur and the scapegoat.
And when they say, may the blood be upon us, our hands and our children, I think it is, that's saying that they are atoning for his sin.
Because when you're sprinkled with the blood, that's how you are getting rid of the sin.
Well, where did you read that, though?
I read a Kabbalah rabbi say that, and just from my overall understanding, I do think that's what it really does mean.
Right, but I'm saying, where did you originally read that?
Because I'm saying originally, that take.
I understand what Yom Kippur is and how it works with the sprinkling of the blood and why that's important.
So the blood on them means they're the ones that are washed in the blood.
They're the ones that are healed.
Well, if you came up with it, it's quite original.
It does sound to me like a Jewish flashbang.
And what I mean by that is that this does seem to be a way to explain away what was a very real zealot class in Jerusalem at the time, who I'm reading from the same Bible you are.
They were saying this because they knew that Jesus was the Messiah, but they wanted to convict him anyway.
Let his blood be on our hands.
Almost as if they were so prideful, they knew they were committing deicide.
That's my interpretation, man.
It's been an interpretation of many theologians for several centuries.
But it's interesting.
You say you came up with this, not the books you've been reading, though, because I read one of the books, one of the books you recommended about a year ago.
I kind of understand the spectrum of thought on this.
I definitely did that, do you know?
It was written by an atheist, and it described Christianity as an illusion, an illusion created by Jews.
So I'd have to go back to my bookcase to find the book specifically.
It was quoting many passages from the New and Old Testament to support the theory that the New Testament was formulated by Jews to control Christians.
Do you know which book I'm talking about?
Is it Christopher John Bjorkness?
I think that, yeah, that does sound right.
Yeah.
And it was, it's a very, I told you this.
The first time I think you were exploring this, 2018, maybe 2019, I was chatting with you before my phone died.
Maybe it was later than 2019, but I remember you posed this to me.
I said, that is an incredible jump from where we were, because you and I were allies against Zionism, right?
And I said to you, I was like, Adam, look, while I do understand the extent to which the Jews have manipulated the world, that would be one heck of a jump that they would have manipulated all Christians to present day through controlling and the creation of the New Testament.
That does seem a little too much.
And past this, I know.
Look at how zogged 99% of Christianity is today.
All the big churches, all the influential influencers on YouTube, they're all going along with the Zog agenda.
So I see as the Occam's Razor, the best explanation for what we see going on.
And the idea that this is a myth, but it's according to the prophecies.
Like, here's Acts 2.
This man was handed over to you by God's deliberate plan and foreknowledge, and you, with the help of the Gentiles, the Romans, put him to death by nailing him to a cross.
It's the deliberate plan because it's what the prophecies and the scriptures called for, was that the Messiah had to die and had to be rejected even by his chosen people.
That's like part of what was supposed to happen according to the scriptures.
Well, the deliberate plan, yes.
I would say my interpretation of that is deliberate plan devised from the Garden of Eden after the fall.
Christ, Holy Spirit and God, the Holy Trinity, came up with a plan to redeem mankind.
That's the deliberate plan I think this is disgusting, not a deliberate plan to deceive all of mankind.
And I would say that that is still a huge jump because while I wouldn't make the argument I might have made two years ago, which is the conspiracy is too big, the conspiracy is too big, because the Jews have shown the propensity to carry out large conspiracies.
I mean, look at 9-11, for example.
They're known for controlled opposition, too, are they not?
Yes.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
How can you not see that Christianity is playing the role of their controlled opposition?
It opposes them, but it also believes that they were once chosen by God and worships their God and is following the Jewish Messiah as like the only opposition to them.
Is that not a limited form of opposition if Christianity is also affirming the Old Testament?
Well, what I do know is this.
I do know that the Holy Spirit's alive in me, and that's not a figment of my imagination.
I know that I've escaped near-death situations, and I don't think that was just by coincidence.
I mean, the car accident I had last year, for example, the car flipped, it went onto its side, and was like one foot from hitting a gas pipeline.
And this is interesting because I do believe that the word of God is living.
So aside from the plethora of New Testament scriptures, I could debate through with you and study with you, of course.
I tell you this, I believe that the Lord saved me that day.
And I think the Lord has saved my wife.
She's gone through many health episodes and these other things.
But I tell you this, I think the Holy Spirit is alive in my life.
It's alive when I'm about to yell at an employee or my wife or someone who's been really crazy at the store.
It's what tells me, Ed, calm down, be peaceful.
The meek will inherit the earth.
And going to the premise of where this discussion began, that's what a Christian is.
The Beatitudes.
We're not talking about the destruction of some kind of enslavement of the world.
I would say that 100% is what the Jews wanted.
They wanted Jesus Christ to come to the world in the first century and defeat the Romans, to free them the same way the Lord freed from the Greek.
Jesus did defeat the Romans.
Well, he did.
So they got what they wanted.
Well, they didn't get everything they wanted.
He will smite him Like a sword from his mouth, is what it says.
And through his teachings, he would do it.
Because you're segueing to the exact verse that I'm about to cover right now, but go ahead, finish your point.
Well, in respect to what they wanted, I'm talking about people like Judas, Ascaria, even Peter.
They were zealots.
They wanted a bloody war like they'd read in Maccabees.
They wanted the Lord to empower their army, to cut the stomachs of elephants open.
I mean, that's the kind of thing that happened in the book of Maccabees.
The Lord literally intervened, according to 1 and 2 Maccabees, in the battles.
They thought Jesus Christ was going to come into Jerusalem on a war horse.
He did not.
He came on the back of a donkey with a palm.
That's what the prophecy called for, that he would come on the back of a donkey.
But they still wanted something different than the prophecy.
That's the point I'm making.
Is that while they were given the prophecy from Isaiah and other parts of the Old Testament, they still didn't want that.
They wanted something different than what was prophesied.
And what's true throughout the Old Testament is the prophets were constantly rejected.
There's a verse about prophets being rejected in their own land.
Jesus Christ was rejected in the very land he was brought to.
You think about this.
Jesus Christ was born amongst the Jews.
Gospel given to the Jews first, and they rejected the gospel.
They killed Jesus Christ and pass that in the book of Hebrews.
It notes how the descendants from Christ and the disciples, the followers of Jesus Christ, and Christianity as named out of Antioch, that they were persecuted then by the Jews, chased to the edges of the earth, even though for a time, I'd say maybe a couple, maybe a thousand years, you could say the Jews were at a disadvantage.
They didn't have the power they have now.
Maybe part of it is due to a long-term plan they've had in place for quite some time, maybe the 40s, maybe the 30s.
The nation-state of Israel, the creation of that has been the formation of a long-form part.
The great reset is when the conspiracy started.
From year zero, yes.
Yeah, well, the great reset.
I do appreciate the greatest of resets, which was that I no longer had to kill a lamb or a goat to atone for my sinful nature.
And I also do appreciate the Holy Spirit being given as a great comforter to me.
It's comforted me through quite a bit, you know, and I'm sure, Adam, if you ever come to my side, it's going to comfort you too.
Well, if I ever need a lot of comfort, maybe it'll be appealing to me.
Here is Romans 11:28.
As far as the gospel is concerned, they, the Jews, are enemies for your sake.
But as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs.
So you're supposed to be their enemies, but they're still chosen from their lineage of the patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
That's what this verse means here from Paul.
Well, the verse from Paul is very intriguing because it's talking about the lineage of Christ, which you actually can derive right from Joseph, Christ's earthly father, all the way back to Adam.
And listen, the conversation is.
How does that work?
If he's not the actual son of Joseph, why do they have in Matthew and in Luke lineages going through Joseph if he's not even the biological father?
Well, it was to say that the line would be completed through Christ doesn't have to be the biological son.
But more than that, even if you think about it, for it to go all the way back to Adam through all those years, that's an incredible lineage.
It was kept.
And Joseph wasn't even like a king.
Joseph wasn't rich.
Joseph was a carpenter in Bethlehem.
It's a very interesting story.
It's a story I believe.
I think that is, again, the lineage that's being spoken about in Romans 11.
It's to say that for those Jews that would reject the gospel, there is a tie going all the way back to the patriarchs.
It was a kind of a plea, I'd say in this sense, to the Jews of the Old Testament for them not to reject the Messiah, which, going to the point that you were discussing earlier, the Jews wanted so much more than a Messiah.
They didn't want what Jesus had to offer.
They wanted retribution.
They wanted Masada.
I mean, I talk about the zealots.
Masada is what Judas and Peter, before his repentance, you know, before his submission to Christ and the way Christ wanted him to lead the church.
This is what they wanted.
They wanted bloodshed.
They wanted war.
They wanted 1 Maccabees.
Did they, though?
That wasn't working for them.
Instead, I think it would be more pragmatic for them to take a nonviolent, peaceful approach and infiltrate with theological warfare, which they did.
It took a few hundred years before they could finally convert enough of the Roman Empire to Christianity and then get them to abandon their cultures and traditions and replace it with revering the Hebrew patriarchs.
And the goal of the Messiah, can we agree on this?
In Second Temple Judaism, before Christianity, the goal, it was the Jewish people that were the only people on earth that were waiting for a Messiah.
And they wanted a Messiah so that they could be redeemed and liberated from the Roman Empire and from the Gentiles.
Well, I'd say some of the Jews.
Because if you agree on this, there were some Jews who were waiting.
I mean, look at John the Baptist, for example, and John the Baptist's parents.
John the Baptist was a dutiful Jew.
He was following what the Lord had told him to do.
And his parents likewise, even though his dad and his mom, his dad was mom until the birth of John the Baptist because he didn't believe what the angel had said about his soon-to-be-born son.
He thought his wife was barren.
Not all Jews were like this.
It's a common theory or common story.
It's a good story.
A great story.
Great Bible study story.
What I'd also say to this is there were a lot of Jews that were callous, cold-hearted.
They didn't want to say they were waiting for anything other than their next meal or their next killing or robbery.
The first century was a very cold place.
I think you and I have, we've benefited quite a bit from growing up in relative peace in America.
Not that the actions of the empire have been peaceful.
What I'm saying is you and I, we maybe had a decent upbringing.
I don't want to speak for you too much.
I would say this.
I had a good mom, a good dad.
I didn't have to fight and kill anyone for my next meal.
We grew up in relative peace.
First century is not the case.
I think many people were left dead.
Many of the widows, the orphans were not taken care of.
It was a very cold time.
And those Jews were not waiting for a Messiah.
Those Jews were living day to day, however the heck they wanted to.
They were living, in my interpretation, they were living for the devil and not for the Lord that had created them.
Um...
On the idea that it's the blood be on our hands and our children, Matthew says, she will give birth to a son and you are to give him the name Jesus.
And this is from Isaiah, I believe it says Emmanuel in the original verse, because he will save his people from their sins.
Who were Jesus' people?
Who was the Messiah?
Who was waiting for the Messiah?
So who is his people in the context?
Some of the Jews who are waiting for the Messiah.
Yeah, that's what I'd say.
Jesus' people would be the people he was born among.
Some of the Jews.
Well, hold that thought because now we have John 11.
It says The chief priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.
They said, Jesus is this man is performing many signs, signs of the Messiah.
If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away our temple and our nation.
Then one of them named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, quote, You know nothing at all.
You do not realize that it's better for that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish.
He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, and not only for that nation, but also for the scattered children of God, the lost sheep of Israel, and to bring them together and make them one.
So even Caiaphas was saying that they needed to kill him for the Jewish nation.
They needed a suffering Messiah because if they had a military Messiah, they would get crushed by the Romans.
But if they could have a and plus, they couldn't, they couldn't really have a king come in, military leader come and conquer the Romans for them.
That's what this verse is saying here.
If we let everyone believe in him, if we promote another Moshiach ben-David, the Romans will destroy us.
So it's better that we kill the suffering Messiah, and then that will be their salvation.
That's what this verse sounds like to me.
What do you think?
Well, sure.
I think that this verse describes separate intentions from different groups of Jews.
You would agree that the apostles, the disciples, including Judas up until he agreed to betray Jesus Christ or until he let the devil inside of him to be used in this manner, that they wanted something different than the Sanhedrin, than the Sadducees and Pharisees.
This group that you're describing here, they were wanting a different form of salvation.
I'd say that while those who were very closely attuned with what was written in the book of Isaiah, the prophecies for Isaiah clearly foretold of everything we saw with Jesus Christ arriving.
That's not my point.
My point is rather that in spite of those very prophecies, people wanted something different.
They wanted something different because it was more about power and control.
I would argue that the theory that the world should be conquered, the world should be subdued, and the world should be turned to slaves, that is a very, very Jewish plan.
It's not a Christian plan.
The Christian plan is instead for the world to be free.
And you could say, and I will say this, to be slaves to Jesus Christ, the rightful king, who will then establish a kingdom called New Jerusalem.
And upon your death, you rest until the rising of the dead on the final day of the world.
And then you go to a new world, not this world to be conquered.
What they're describing is a power play, a political power play for control of this world, this world that won't exist in the Christian end time.
The Christian end time is not the same world.
So I'd say it's different because of this.
I'm saying multiple different intentions.
The intentions of the apostles were different from the Sanhedrin.
So this verse would be explaining that.
Did Jesus, did his death fulfill the prophecies?
Yes.
Yeah, I do believe that.
Yeah.
And so do you appreciate the Jews for killing Jesus?
Because without his death, how would the Gentiles be saved?
I don't appreciate the Jews for coming to you.
Why not?
That's the prophecies.
They're just fulfilling God's divine plan, fulfilling the scriptures.
Like Jesus said, we're going up to Jerusalem.
Jesus predicts his death for the third time in Matthew.
He took the 12 aside and said, We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law.
They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked, flogged, and crucified.
On the third day, he will be raised to life.
And that mocked, flogged, spit on, crucified, that all is just identifying him as the scapegoat.
Also, it's an interesting, you know, I'd say, mind game there, because, okay, I don't appreciate the Jews killing Jesus at its base level.
Okay, like I wouldn't appreciate any of the actions done in the world.
It's the most important thing in your life.
If they didn't do that, you would not be saved.
You wouldn't be able to be grafted in and have a new covenant.
It was their intentions were poisonous, though.
I'm not going to cheer at the devilish intentions of one side.
Though it was prophesied, that doesn't mean we are to cheer the actions.
It was prophesied because the Lord knows exactly how this was going to play out.
It's not as if he wanted the Jews to betray him.
It's not as if he wanted the Jews to ignore his prophecy, his offer of reconciliation, his offer of reunification with him.
He wanted nothing more than the Jews to be saved.
But he knew, because he's omnipresent and omnipotent, he knows everything.
He knew that some were going to think about this in a very mischievous manner, very evil manner, literal evil in this case, and they were going to be the ones to kill.
And after obviously trying Jesus in a very distasteful manner, they knew that the Jews were going to betray.
And the part of this I'd say is of no doubt, do I cheer?
Do I cheer when a crowd lynches a bad man?
No, I mean, my love for mankind, my love for my brother and my sister, I want to see peace.
I want to see love.
I want to see people reconciled.
I don't cheer what the Jews did, and I don't credit the Jews.
I think maybe it's the best way of putting this.
I credit Jesus Christ, and I credit God with my salvation.
I don't credit the Jews which crucified him.
The same way I don't credit the Romans, right?
The Roman involved with that.
I credit Jesus and the plan that was formed out of the Garden of Eden.
But did the Jews really have a choice?
If the scriptures are the scriptures and they have to be fulfilled, and God chose them for a divine mission to bring forth the Messiah, and he chose them to reject the Messiah.
And Christianity is predicated on the death and the sacrifice and the blood atonements of the Messiah.
They did all that for you.
I don't see why you shouldn't thank them, at least be gracious for what they did.
Well, I'd say that the verse you're quoting from prior to this and preferencing of Caiaphas, they were debating.
If they didn't have a choice, they wouldn't need to debate it.
I 100% believe that they had a choice to accept or reject.
And many accepted.
What would have happened?
Many accepted.
How would we be saved without the sacrifice of the blood of the lamb and the goats, the scapegoats, if he wasn't killed?
Well, I believe the Lord knew that some were going to reject, and then ultimately, due to that rejection, kill.
Okay, because that was going to be the punishment for pretending to be the Messiah, pretending to fulfill the prophecies.
He knew that some would accept and some would reject.
That doesn't mean the Jews and by ethnicity in this region were all going to do the exact same thing.
And as I've just laid out to you, there were different Jews, as in the tensions.
The disciples, for example, were pro-Jesus.
The Sanhedrin, anti-Jesus.
Okay, so I'd say this about it.
The Lord gave a choice.
They wouldn't have been debating it if it was predestined.
I don't believe in predestination.
I believe that they chose it.
And more than that, I do believe the same way the mark of the beast is not something that's forced on people.
It's something you have to voluntarily accept.
The same way salvation is voluntary, something that you have to through free will, through the admittance of your sins and accepting your Christ.
Same was in this case for the Jews there.
The gospel was brought to them.
Some rejected it and chose to become enemies of Christ.
Some accepted it and became friends and loved ones, family.
As Christ said, it wasn't even his earthly brothers and sisters, half-brothers and sisters at that, that were his brothers and sisters.
It was the believers in the crowd.
This was described in the New Testament.
That's what I'd say the distinction is.
We're not monolithic.
Not every American believes the same thing, right?
Adam, you know this.
You're anti-war.
You're not a Republican or a Democrat, but someone might try to throw you into a certain camp or other just because of the people you hang out with.
By hanging out with me, they might call you a Christian, right?
It's not the same, right?
It's not the same.
Thank you.
And let's read a couple of super chats now that we have here.
And first, a couple of comments I'm seeing in your chat on Cozy.
First one is from Ike.
It says, Adam Green is a very typical Nordic fake Jew or Ashkenazi Jew that I know many.
Very rare, though, in the world.
And here's Astral Pepe.
He says, Ed is doing a pretty good job, but Green is very skilled at misdirection and disease.
Well, let me, since it's my chat, I get to say something to the super chat.
So this is what I'll say.
This is what I'll say.
I don't even have to say the super, I say it to you, Adam.
I love you.
I love you too.
I love these conversations because ultimately, you know, I do think, I hope it doesn't take until these hairs are gray, right?
I hope you and I are sitting on a porch in, I get in trouble with my staphylotype doxy.
So let's say in Mexico, you and I are down in Mexico.
We're sipping, we're sipping, I see you don't drink soda, so we're dripping coffee.
You know, we're saying, you know, Adam, do you remember that time we were debating whether Jesus Christ was a Jewish psyop?
And I'm like, Adam, yep, that was some crazy time.
How's your kid doing?
How are you, many kids?
Because this is the thing that they give, they give Adam Green a lot of crap over on Cozy.
Adam Green is pretty buff, and he is living the life.
You know, he's got a family.
He's not a degenerate.
He's doing a lot of stuff.
But I'd say this, Adam, I have these conversations with you to witness to you.
And it's the same way you talk to me.
You're probably trying to convince me of your point of view.
But I'd say it is in good faith, at least for mine, and I believe it's in good faith in your end too.
You don't hate me.
And again, I love you.
And I do this again.
I say it to my chat because of that love.
This is something that we are commanded to do.
Commanded to both be a good representation, a good testimony of what Christ has done in our life.
And more than just that, we're going to have these conversations with lots of people.
Adam just so happens to have come up with something.
I don't know if it's brand new.
It does sound like it might be brand new.
Adam, you may have actually created what could be considered to be a brand new heresy, which is not a good thing, okay?
The controlled opposition heresy.
I'm not the creator.
I learned most of it from Christopher John Bjorkness and my other research and other books.
But okay, let's go to another super chat.
We have John Gratis says, Ed, would you make what would make you question your faith or change your mind about the Bible?
At this point, nothing.
I will say that.
I've seen too much.
I've seen too much.
Maybe if you'd asked me when I first became a Christian in 2013, I might have had an answer to that.
But it's alive.
It's alive.
People wonder.
They think I do cocaine or maybe it's too much caffeine.
I'm full of life, man.
I'm full of life.
I'm full of energy.
High on Jesus.
You're a Jesus junkie.
I've told you this before.
The Holy Spirit is one heck of a heck of a supporter, one heck of a supporter.
It empowers me daily.
There is nothing that would shake my faith.
Did you know I blaspheme the Holy Spirit?
That's the one unforgivable sin to make fun of the holy Jewish ghost.
Well, you shouldn't do that, Adam.
You really should repent of that.
The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is an interesting question because I think, at least from my interpretation of this and the church's interpretation, it appears to be in line with this.
When Jesus was speaking about this, it is speaking of those who know the Holy Spirit is real, know that that voice that you hear in the back of your head telling you, hey, you shouldn't do this, you shouldn't say this, and you shouldn't sleep with that person that's not your wife, that they're directly ignoring that voice, that very beautiful comfort in one's life, and to blaspheme it, speak against it, to fight against it, knowing it's real.
It's different, though, for people who are atheists or people that aren't Christians.
I'd say this: my message to those people is that Jesus Christ is the only way out of the chaos of this world.
Actually, instead of thinking of it in a doom mindset, haven't you wondered?
Haven't you wondered by people like Edward Zahl and his friends over on Cozy why they're so happy, why they're not shaken by the chaos of the era.
More than just this, haven't you ever wondered where we came from?
I love origin stories, right?
We do early life checks on many people.
But in respect to my early life check, my life began with Christ because I was dead before and I'm alive now.
So well, I think I'm alive too.
Here's the next super chat from Liam T. Jarrett says, Love the guest.
Think he's close to making the turn.
You can believe in God without Christianity.
Ed is the Holy Spirit only in the Christian sect that you identify.
Is the Holy Spirit only in the Christian sect that you identify with?
What type of Christian are you, actually, Ed?
Well, I'm a Christian.
I believe in Jesus Christ.
Some will call me Catholic now.
I definitely don't believe many of the things that I'd read at least or been told about the Catholic Church in the past.
It's less about what kind of Christian I am.
I'm a Christian who you don't identify with any of the big three.
What would you consider the big three to be?
Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant?
I'd say I definitely consider myself to be Catholic now, definitely Catholic.
And I would say that in respect to the, I guess, now, when you were on True News, he's Protestant, right?
He thinks the Catholic Church is satanic, probably, doesn't he?
Well, he likes their money.
So I don't know about that.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to offend.
Well, it's less about it.
I'd say he likes their money.
I think there was a conversation we had one time in his office.
He was like, oh, Ed, you can't be so tough on the Catholics because when I say this in the past, I think I was a textbook Protestant, right?
That's the church I was saved in.
I just didn't know better, didn't know much more about the dichotomy of the Catholic Church.
Didn't know about the history of the church, these other things.
But anyway, I remember the conversation.
It's like, Ed, we can't talk about these things because we have donors who are Roman Catholics.
And if we were to say that they are a separate religion or say these other things, that I don't know.
I don't want to speak for him too much.
But I remember that conversation.
I was like, so we're doing it for the money?
Okay, but anyway, I'd say this.
I've grown a lot spiritually after leaving that place.
And as I said to you, one of the greatest lessons I learned from there.
And I'll say this.
I will thank God for that.
I will thank them for this.
I learned forgiveness, true forgiveness.
And I hope maybe that's a great witness to you.
I could have become a very vengeful individual.
I could have been nasty.
I could have let bitterness enter my heart.
Instead, I took Luke 6 to heart, which is that I pray for my enemies.
I pray for those that scornfully use me and abuse me.
And I pray for my enemies because Jesus Christ said that you must be different than how the flesh of the world would respond, which would be to kill each other, an eye for an eye.
Murder those that hurt you.
I'm a peacemaker.
I'm one that wants to bring reconciliation through my king, Jesus Christ, not war.
Me too.
But Jesus said he came not to bring peace but a sword.
Yeah, division in families.
I think that part is misconstrued with what I'm speaking about.
I'm not called to go out and murder Iraqi children, which maybe you look at the career before even George.
It's okay.
You know, I'm not called to go out and murder children and women.
But in regard to what Jesus Christ said, Jesus Christ did come to divide the world run by Satan and his kingdom run by him.
And the division was necessary because some people did say, maybe I can be a Christian or follower of Christ on one day of the week and then continue to be in allegiance with the King Herods of the world or the Sadducees of Judea in the weekdays.
It just doesn't work.
I think Jesus Christ, as he said, came to divide father from brother, from daughter, from son, mother from daughter.
And this is going to divide a family, but not with violence.
Maybe that's the primary difference.
It's not through violence.
It's voluntary.
But it is, I'd say, a worldview difference.
Where do you think you're going when you die?
What do you think you need to do to achieve eternity?
I have a way, and it's Jesus' way, which is to believe upon his sacrifice at the cross at Calvary and believe that he will come again to judge the living and the dead.
He beat death itself.
I'm going to follow that man, okay?
I'm going to follow that king.
Are you familiar with the prophecies of the resurrection?
Yes, I think I am.
What do you think the prophecies, the parallels of the resurrection are?
Like what verses in the Old Testament are prophecies of that the Messiah would resurrect?
Well, Isaiah, actually, I just studied this actually.
He raised it up, right?
Lift it up.
It's in the book of Isaiah.
It discusses the final day.
It's early in the book of Isaiah, actually, because I remember opening up the book of Isaiah and saying, my goodness, they're talking about the final day right there at the beginning of the book of Isaiah.
53.
Yeah, well, I'd say before then.
We're only, I think, well, we're only at chapter 37.
So I'm talking about early as in maybe the first five chapters of the book of Isaiah.
I have a pretty good memory, but from the discussion the day we covered it, maybe have been about a month ago now, it was a discussion of the final day of the world.
This was a prophecy of Christ's return, discussion of what will happen to sinners, what will happen to the world itself.
And then, of course, there's Ezekiel, there's other books in the Old Testament that discuss the final day of mankind.
I think what was so revolutionary about Isaiah is that not only did Isaiah prophesize the coming of Jesus, but the book of Isaiah also prophesies the end of the world.
Can you imagine reading that and trying to make sense of that?
I think maybe that is another flashbang that the Pharisees and the Sadducees were able to use against the first century church, those who were not as strong in their faith as I might be now, was that they would confuse them, tell you, no, it hasn't happened.
You're getting hurt, you're getting persecuted, you're getting destroyed, and your Jesus has not come.
I can say this fullheartedly: Jesus Christ will come again to judge the living and the dead.
And he beat death itself.
I'm going to follow him.
I'm not going to follow the world.
You're right.
Isaiah 53, I believe, is one of them.
And also Psalms 22 is his death.
Psalm 23 is his something else in the passion narrative.
And then 24 is the resurrection.
That's what I've heard.
And speaking of Isaiah mentioning the end times, Isaiah 61, the year, the day of vengeance of our God.
They will rebuild the ancient ruins and restore places long devastated.
They will renew the ruined cities that have been devastated for generations.
What do you think that's referring to?
Well, I'd say Israel.
Well, maybe it's many cities.
We don't know if that specifically is just Israel, right?
Let's read, let's pull that.
They're talking about Israel because strangers will shepherd your flocks.
Foreigners will work your fields and your vineyards.
That's the Gentiles slaving for them.
You will be called priests of the Lord, and you will be named ministers of our God, the nation of priests.
You will feed on the wealth of the Goyim, and in their riches you will boast.
I will reward my people and make an everlasting covenant with them.
Their descendants will be known among the Goyim and their offspring among the people.
All who see them will acknowledge that they are people the Lord has blessed.
So that sounds like a Jewish takeover plan that's God's end times in Isaiah.
Well, I think that the discussion here, could it be possibly describing the cities that have been judged and destroyed?
Maybe some of them judged and destroyed due to their unfaithfulness.
I'm thinking about in Maccabees, this is just fresh in my mind right now, that Jerusalem was allowed to be taken.
The city was allowed to be taken over because of the actions of the people who were supposed to be adherent to God.
The people that are supposed to be godly fell from their duties.
They turned the temples into a bazaar.
They did many things which were disgusting to the Lord.
He allowed a conquering army, the Greeks, to take over the city.
It was when they turned back to the Lord that the Lord freed them from it.
Sodom and Gomorrah, too.
I mean, I'm looking at many cities that have been destroyed over the years.
I'd say with some of these Old Testament books, I'd have to study that chapter to maybe give you a more specific answer to it.
But I definitely wouldn't say that it's evidence of an unjust judgment on the world.
I'd say this, the understanding of the final day from my perspective, from the church perspective, is that the world is justly judged because they were given the chance to repent throughout their lifetime.
And past this, the world itself, the final solution, the final, I'd say, submission past this, is that the world is rolled up like a scroll.
We talk about the Old Testament prophecies.
The world being rolled up like a scroll, the world being reborn, new Jerusalem, new Zion being created.
That is what has been foretold of, not a world being put into some form of slavery to an almighty Jewish kingdom.
I know that some sects of Christian Zionism, they'll believe that.
They'll believe that we're all going to serve for a thousand years to Jewish overlords.
I don't believe that.
And I would say that my, if you're going to call them sects, my sect is becoming the majority, especially in this country, the massive Catholicism is growing compared to.
And so I'd say Catholic youth Catholics.
I would say the most vocal and the most fervent, and I'd say the most righteous among the next generation.
So yeah, I'd say that I don't think I would have been introduced to Catholic doctrine and to Catholicism if it was not for the fervency for the faith of the Zumers or for the youth.
So yeah, I would say that.
Nick Fuentes and the Groipers are basically doing nothing but giving the Jews their victim status by promoting Christian anti-Semitism, blaming them for killing God, blaming them for rejecting Jesus.
That's basically the talking points that they gave to us that discredit us, that have been used to make them the persecuted victim.
So I think they're doing more harm than good, actually, and playing the role of Esau that persecutes the Jews.
That's why that's part of the reason Nick gets so much attention, in my opinion.
Oh, I mean, there's a lot there.
We could dissect through that.
I just don't think that's true.
I think that I know, I personally know that Nick is not playing some game.
I don't think he's playing a game.
I'm not saying he's controlled or he's playing a game.
He could be a sincere believer in these things.
But I'm just saying that it's theological controlled opposition to be the villain in their story.
By making them the villain in your story, it's making the Christians the villains in the real world.
I don't think that.
Is Nick not a villain?
Is he not the poster boy for racist, white supremacist Christian nationalism?
I would say this: who labeled Nick that?
Who labeled Nick as the villain of the world?
The Jews did.
Okay, the Jews did.
Do they like to use anti-Semitism?
Do they not believe that anti-Semitism provides a crucial role for them?
Do you mean Nick and like America First, or do you mean the enemies?
Just Christian anti-Semitism in general.
Well, the anti-Semitic trope, you know, the attack, the label was, I'd say, really populized by the ADL.
And sure, they like to place that on people like Nick Fuentes and others.
Nick is not, I'd say, harming the discussion about Jewish power and usury and all these things by being someone who's been singled out by the ADL.
I mean, look at this.
You've been singled out by the ADL, too, right?
You've been placed in the same articles as Nick.
So if we're saying that, you know, Nick being a strong Christian man, a man who wants to see this country redeemed, restored through Christ, not through political saviors and these other things.
You could also look at, well, I know for you, you don't want this country to be run by transsexuals and demons and people who want to rape kids and these other things, right?
You don't believe in that degeneracy.
I don't want the country to be ran by anybody that's obsessed with Moshiachanism, Moshiachism.
Well, no one really knows what that means, though.
I know what it means.
Sure, I get that.
But I'm saying is most people don't know what that means.
It means to believe in a Messiah, to believe in the Hebrew Messiah.
Sure, that's maybe some terminology people would understand.
I think that when it comes to the Moshiach and the deep, the deep rabbi kind of mysticism.
Wall Street might still believe in Kabbalah and Gematra.
And I was down at an event at the Mar-a-Lago and was pretty spooked by it.
I was like, this is some wild stuff.
They were doing the Vulcan hands.
You've seen the Vulcan hands, these other things.
I was like, okay, these people probably still believe in some of that stuff.
But this next generation, for better or for worse, they're very shallow in their understanding of Judaism.
And I think of the things the ADL would say about who are dangerous and terrible in society.
I certainly think that part of that is the lack of Holocaust survivors that are available to parade around.
And two, I think it's due to the work of America First.
I mean, look at guys like Nick, Dalton, Claude Felt, and others.
It's cool.
It's cool to be dissident.
It's cool to follow Jesus Christ.
It's cool to marry a woman and have children and to live a non-degenerate life, not be addicted to pornography, not be addicted to crack cocaine and many other forms of bondage in this form or another.
I'd say these things have won over the culture, society.
I mean, look, for example, Nick is working for Ye.
I mean, you probably grew up listening to his music.
I'd say that's a huge value add.
I'd say that's an incredible value add, actually.
I'd say half the world has heard of Ye.
And in respect to this, they now are also exploring the alliance he has with Christian nationalism, right?
Saving of children, for example.
No one can argue against that.
We want more children to be saved.
And I think that due to the work of the America First movement, more children will be saved.
I think it was the Catholics on the Supreme Court, for example, that finally overturned Roe v.
Wade.
So these are tangible examples of how Christian nationalism and a leader in the Christian nationalist movement, Nick Fuentes, has had a positive impact, not a negative impact.
Okay, well, thanks for your response on that.
I understand that you got to defend your gropers and the cozy chats.
Here's another super chat.
Adam should present at all Bible studies, at least in spirit, the Holy Spirit should kind of.
Here's another one.
Why would God, you mentioned animal sacrifice and not needing it anymore?
Why would God ever need an animal sacrifice, even once upon a time?
Well, that's an interesting one.
I'd say that the Lord used it as a foretelling of the sacrifice of the lamb at the cross, the atonement of sin.
It's a terrible thing.
I would say I cry when I read the stories about the animals that have died from testing for pharmaceutical products or makeup.
It's a terrible thing, the things that Anthony Fauci did to the Beagles.
Going back to the Old Testament, the amount of goats, lambs, animals that were sacrificed.
Animals, they bore the burden of the introduction of sin into the world.
I think maybe the redeeming factor to this is that the animals themselves are resurrected.
They are available, I'd say.
They are there in New Jerusalem.
There's an interpretation I think is correct, is that in New Jerusalem, it's a form of new Garden of Eden.
So every animal, every creation that the Lord had had actually as a companion of Adam.
That was the reason why he created these animals.
And of course, Adam was in charge of the garden.
He also created his wife from his rib, you know, as a companion.
These animals paid a burden.
They paid a price, and they continue to pay a price in the Old Testament.
And today, too.
You think sharks wanted to eat humans back in the Old Testament in the Garden of Eden?
No.
Lions didn't want to eat humans either, but that's the nature now.
Did they have their big, sharp, carnivorous teeth?
I think so, but carnivorous.
They were not eating meat in the Garden of Eden.
So they had the big claws and the big teeth for eating meat, but they weren't eating meat.
They're used now for eating meat.
For example, you have big muscles that some would say are used to punch people's faces in, but you don't do that.
You use it to carry your beautiful child.
Big, sharp teeth are only for one thing, Ed, and that's for ripping seasons.
They're only for one thing.
They're for UFC cage fights.
No, they're for carrying your baby over long distances.
Big muscles are for carrying big weights, you know, big, big, huge grenades and artillery shells.
See, I mean, use your muscles for good.
Okay.
This would be the same thing I think those lines were using their big sharp claws for.
Say no to Yahweh says, you like that name?
Say no to Yahweh.
Edward, did Jesus Christ look more like you or Adam?
Oh, well, that's an interesting question.
I think that.
Was Jesus a Jew?
Yeah.
Was Jesus a Jew?
I think he was raised in Jewish society.
That's factual.
I don't reject the notion that Jesus Christ was a Jew.
Was he circumcised on the eighth day?
He was circumcised.
Did he celebrate Hanukkah and Passover?
He didn't celebrate Passover.
Did he study the Hebrew Torah?
He did.
Yeah, he did.
But he's not a Jew.
All those things, but he's not a Jew.
Yeah, but it's an equivocation that's not correct.
He was the Torah.
He was the living word of God.
You say he studied the Torah.
He didn't need to study it past knowing exactly what was in it and being able to recall it as a child in the synagogue.
That's what the scriptures tell us.
How come the New Testament quotes Jesus in Greek, and you can tell from the quotes that Jesus supposedly said are written from the Septuagint and not from the Hebrew Old Testament.
Well, I do believe all the New Testament was wholly inspired.
I do believe the Holy Spirit breathed through the men that were writing the Gospels that we would read today.
I think the differences that you will find are simply from different authors in the crowd that heard it in the way that they will recall it.
I don't think that there's credible proof to show that there are major discrepancies.
More than anything, the translation differences, it doesn't change the meaning.
It doesn't change the meaning.
Great example.
They say it could.
But I'd say that in this case, it didn't, because the practice of Christianity has been the same, has been the same.
The message of salvation is the same, regardless of the translation.
You could say that probably for everything except for the NIV, the NIV, the NIV had some major changes.
What's your translation of choice?
I mean, I read the New King James.
The New King James is a fine one for me.
I find that to be easy to understand and easy to teach from.
I think you should read the Orthodox Jewish Bible.
It makes it more clear what the agenda is.
Like in Psalm 22, a verse that's full of messianic things that are laid.
It starts off with, my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
is the beginning of Psalm 22.
And much of the crucifixion and passion narrative comes from Psalm 22, but it says, all the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord, Hashem, Yahweh, and all the kindreds of the Goyim shall bow down in worship before thee.
For the kingdom is the Lord's, and he is the governor over the Goyim.
That's the agenda of the Jesus prophecies to rule over the Goyim and have the Goyim bow down and worship the God of Israel.
Jesus is all over.
The Jesus myth is all over Psalms 22.
And this is what they wanted in the context.
It's certainly true.
It's certainly true that the Jews have an agenda to rule and to conquer and to dominate.
And unfortunately for the Jews, they will not win on that one.
I don't believe that they have worked some kind of double play here to capture the minds of Christians, Christians who have the Holy Spirit inside of them.
They know Christ is hero because of what Christ is doing in their lives and the lives of their brethren.
I do believe that the Jews spread disinformation.
I do believe that the Jews like they lied.
You mentioned Caiaphas earlier.
The mind games that Caiaphas was playing and many of the religious lead at the time, acknowledging that Christ is the Messiah and more than that, maybe even beginning to forge the narratives of victimhood to do this, not only was in bad faith, but was self-condemning.
For them, they literally rejected salvation and eternity and in exchange for what?
A power position in some crappy city of sand?
I mean, it wasn't a good trade.
You don't think they're doing pretty well right now?
I don't.
I don't.
I think Caiaphas is shaking in his grave.
I think he's shaking in his grave.
As for the descendants of Caiaphas, I think many of them succame to the perils of whatever we're going to call COVID, a bioweapon, a release, this manufactured disease that came out of a lab in America or a lab in China.
I think many of the detractors, people that attacked you, people who attacked me, they died during the pandemic.
Past that, I think.
It's mostly Christians who are attacking me lately.
Well, we talked about it last time.
Maybe a lot of the Christians that attack you, I can't speak for them.
I can only speak for my witness to you.
Every time we have a conversation, I keep it very positive.
And I say it's not me LARPing.
It's not me putting on a show.
I do love you.
I love you.
And I see every one of these conversations we do get to have as a great witness of the love that's inside of me.
And maybe one day you'll join me.
Well, thank you for that.
You're very kind.
But this isn't a Jewish lie.
This is what Psalms 22 says.
Do you disagree with the King James version that says, all the nations will worship before thee.
This is the goal of Psalm 22.
And you can see clearly that Psalm 22 is where they quote mine their inspiration for the Jesus myth.
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
And then it says, scorned by everyone, despised by the people, by the Jews.
All who see me mock me like they mock Jesus and hurl insults, shaking their head.
He trusts in the Lord.
They say, let the Lord rescue him.
Let him deliver him since he delights in him.
That's what the Jews supposedly taunt him while he's on the cross, right?
That's where they get that from.
You brought me out of the womb.
Sure.
All just takes from that.
Okay.
Yeah, with the Psalms, when it comes to the Psalms, to worship the Lord Is not the same as to be dominated by him.
To worship the Lord and all nations being in submission to him is not the same as the Lord coming on a battle horse and conquering all the world and putting them into a form of physical slavery.
That's the second, that's the Moshiach ben David.
There's two Messiahs, the suffering, the suffering Messiah of the order of Melchizedek, the high priest, the Messiah of Aaron, however you want to look at it, the Messiah ben Joseph, and then there's the Messiah ben David, who is the military victorious and who is going to smite the nations, is what it says.
I don't know if we're going to have time to get to those verses.
I told you, an hour and a half to maybe an hour and 45, but here's another one, too.
They pierce my hands and feet is from Psalms 22.
They divide my clothes among them and cast lots for my garment, also in the Jesus narrative, right?
Every one of these things.
What you would call the Jesus narrative, I would just call to be the prophecies of Jesus to come and the salvation plan.
But I'd say this to it: I don't deny that the Jews and the Jewish elite have come up with all kinds of explanations for how the world will end, how they will carry out their power plays in the end times.
And before, I don't deny this.
I think this is in their very nature.
It was in their nature to conspire against the living God while he walked on the earth.
What I do want to share is that I don't have to believe that their evil prophecies would come true to believe in the true prophecies which told of Christ and tell of Christ to come.
And that's where I focus.
You could say we study the narratives of the left and the right.
When it comes to politics, it's easy to explain this.
Just because I understand that there are elements of the Democratic Party in this country that would want to eliminate you and I eliminate our speech, as we discussed at the beginning of this program.
And right-wings doesn't want to do that to me, too.
I'm not so blackpillowed and think that we're going to lose.
Not just the left is trying to say that.
Sure, I think that the enemy would love to see all their manifestations and fantasies come true.
That doesn't mean it's going to happen or that it's the gospel of truth.
What I know to be true is what lives inside of me, and that is the gospel of the kingdom.
That's what I share.
That's what we're discussing here.
And I think it's what Christ is talking about when he says all the nations will bow their knee to him and submit to him and to worship and praise him.
That's not the same as being in some form of physical slavery, right?
That where the Lord is somehow abusing those nations which have been forced into submission.
The force is through the last day and the, I'd say, the final submission before the judgment.
Up until that day, you and I, and many people who don't believe in Christ, they are given the free will to act in any way they wish.
They will have to face the repercussions of those actions, as do those who drink soda.
What are the repercussions?
The repercussions are drinking soda.
It's not looking like Adam Green.
It's someone who's going to have a beer gut, you know, a little bit of a belly.
The repercussions of lifting weights, though, is you get some big muscles that are used for hugging your child and not slugging artillery rounds downrange in Ukraine.
In the end times, what are the repercussions if someone doesn't want to believe and worship in Jesus when he returns?
Oh, no, I can't hear you.
Hold on.
Oh, really?
Here's the next one.
Isaiah 42.
Behold, my servant, that means the Messiah.
He shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
He shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgment in the earth.
The isles, the islands shall wait for his law.
That was the plan in Isaiah: judgment on the Gentiles, obedience from the Gentiles.
Isaiah 60, and the Gentiles shall come to thy light.
This is where they came up with the idea, in my opinion, where they came up with the idea for Christianity.
The forces of the Gentiles should come unto thee, sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and the men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, for the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish.
Yes, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
And this says, says the Lord, the city, the Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
Hold on.
Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles and shalt suck the breast of kings.
Thou shalt know that I, the Lord, am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the mighty one of Jacob.
How could you be a Gentile and think that this is a good plan?
It's all about conquering the Gentiles.
I'm doing it for context.
And you mentioned the law.
So let's talk about that.
So, okay, well, what law?
There's two ways police can.
Well, you mentioned in that verse, the law, the law, bring unto the law.
Okay.
So the law, I'm not talking about, of course, the very crazy laws, the Noahide laws.
I didn't say the word law here.
There's those law and what you just read.
You might want to go back real quick.
I'll show you the law.
It said, bring on the nations unto the law.
So scroll up to your words.
Which verse?
Go on.
You read it out loud.
This is Isaiah 60.
No, shall come to thy light.
Gentiles shall come to that light, the light to the nations.
Like little mosquitoes attracted to the light or moths or sheep.
How about this verse?
Oh my God, I'm stuttering.
Specifically, I need to slow down.
For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish.
Those nations shall be utterly wasted.
And then thou shalt suck the milk of the Gentiles and shall suck the breast of kings.
Thou shalt know that I am the Lord, thy Savior, and thy Redeemer, the mighty one of Jacob.
How could you be a Gentile and think this verse is a great plan?
Well, I'd say, how could you be a Gentile and not address the New Testament promises, which has now been fulfilled?
And these were telling of Christ to come.
They're telling of the struggle.
Have the Jews sucked our milk yet?
Have they sucked the milk of the Gentiles yet?
Are they doing that right now and they're going to do it more in the future?
Well, I'd have to look at the context of that.
I know that in discussing the metaphoric sucking of our milk, I think that it's sometimes used to describe in the Bible the produce of a nation, the value.
I think in discussion of how a baby treats milk and these other things, this is nourishment, right?
In this context, I'd have to study the context of this.
don't think it's correct, though, to interpret it as, well, okay, are we now tied to the nourishment from the Jews?
I know for a fact that...
No, no, the Jews will suck the milk, our milk, the Gentile milk.
That means they will steal our sustenance, basically.
Here's another one.
Oh, wait, that's just the Goyam that will not serve thee shall perish.
Yes, those goym will be utterly ruined.
I just wouldn't want to worship a God that said anything remotely close to that.
That's kind of my opinion.
Let's skip to here.
Romans 1.
So Paul, beginning of Romans, so he had promised afore by his prophets in the Holy Scriptures that they would get obedience to the faith among the nations.
The goal is to bring obedience from the nations, make the Gentiles obedient.
Romans 15, this is from Genesis 49, 10, a very important verse.
Obedience of the nations shall be his.
Well, sure.
And it goes back to discussing earlier.
I don't believe that you are going to let your son become a transsexual, a transsexual rebel.
You're not going to let your son do whatever the heck he wants.
He's not going to have no structure, no rules.
You're going to have many rules.
Probably already do have.
A certain time he has to go to bed, a certain time he has to come up for breakfast.
Rules about being too loud while you're streaming, maybe.
Maybe he's not too old yet to comprehend this, but you're going to have rules and structures.
You're not being unjust and mean.
You're just being a good father.
You've set in rules which are going to set him up for success and good growth and good discipline.
These are not oppressive.
We look at the repercussions.
Hold on.
I don't think they're repercussions.
Look at this.
Deuteronomy 28:10.
All the people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of thee.
Another verse says, like trembling on their knees, trembling in fear.
They will fear thee.
They will know that you are called by the name of the Lord, things like this.
It's about them having the authority and them having the control over us.
There's other verses about making us their footstool.
That's another prophecy of Jesus: that he will make the Gentiles his footstool.
He will reign over them.
He will rule them with a rod of iron.
He will rule in the land of thine enemies.
This was the goal of the Messiah, and they accomplished all this through Jesus.
Well, you mentioned fear.
Okay, so I do fear the Lord.
I fear the Lord.
It's the same Lord that was able to defeat an entire army in the Red Sea.
He drowned the charioteers of the Egyptian army.
The Lord is not someone to be contended with.
He both created the world and he will end the world.
They want us God-fearers, though.
That's the goal.
They want us to be God-fearers of their God.
Sure.
If we're scared of their God, their God controls us.
Well, it's a question of: are you fearless?
Do you fear nothing?
Do you fear nothing?
I mean, you know, you fear many things.
Do you understand that when the Lord is describing fearing things, he wants us to fear him and not to fear the world, to not fear man, and not fear the plans of man?
The fear is less about oppression and more about a reverence.
We're not on the same level as God.
The same way you and I, when you live in a country, it has a president.
You and I are not on par with that president.
He's in charge, okay?
Our Lord is so much more than a president, he is the king of kings.
And part of this is he commands that we do have reverence, fear of him, fear of what he will do to us if we do not follow his laws.
And as I was going to share with the law, the law is important here because we talk about there are many different kinds of laws.
Never would it ascribe to something like the Noahite laws, right?
That is completely oppressive.
And I would say it literally speaks of killing Christians, beheading those who will not believe in the Jewish, the Jewish end times goals in these things.
The foundation of Christianity is about converting the Gentiles to Noahides.
Here we have Acts.
Hold on, let me show you the verse.
This is one of the verses I have for you since you mentioned it.
Acts 15.
This is what James makes the ruling.
It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.
Instead, we should write to them telling them to follow the Noahide laws.
They don't list them all, but it's very, everybody knows this is what they're describing.
Abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.
This is just a shorter version of the seven Noahide laws.
This is what they set up Christianity to do, is to create Noahides out of us.
And then the top rabbi in all of Judaism.
Hold on, hold on, let me finish the point.
Top rabbi in all of Judaism, Maimonides, says Christianity is preparing the world for the Messianic age, and it's got us to basically being a stepping stone towards Noahidism.
Well, let's look at the verse you just quoted, Terry.
I was reading it on verse 19, rather.
It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God.
Instead, we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.
Now, as it says here, it is my judgment, therefore, we should not make it difficult for Gentiles who are turned to God.
All right, so what this verse is saying, Adam, is that they're trying to make this maybe an entry point, but they also want to make it clear that you shouldn't be involved in weird sexual things.
Sexual morality would be sleeping with your brother's wife, seeing if someone is not your wife, sleeping with children, doing terrible things.
I'm not arguing that we should be sexually immoral.
The point is, is they wanted Gentiles to follow their Noahide laws.
This list is just a not full list of the Noahide laws.
That's the point.
Well, that's what I'm trying to say: I don't believe that this was in some way trying to enforce laws on people.
What it was instead trying to do, it was trying to witness to Gentiles, Gentiles who didn't understand any of the things that the apostles were explaining to people.
Again, the book of Acts primarily is after Christ has ascended to heaven.
It's the Acts of the Apostles, right?
And they were coming upon, you know, let's say one of the civilizations, the Greeks, pagans, you know, people that were fighting the Lord.
You know, they're fighting to worship little G gods and do a bunch of really wild stuff, having crazy orgies with animals, women that weren't their wives, and children, right?
They were telling them you shouldn't do these things.
I don't believe all the anti-pagan propaganda.
You don't?
No, no.
Just like I don't believe all of their claims of everything today, I think that they're exaggerating and lying about some of that too.
Well, I'm glad you brought that up because I was holding that one in my little series.
How do we know that paganism is not a Jewish psyop?
Can't all the arguments which have been made that Christianity was invented as a way to promote Judaism and keep Christians under yoke, can't the same be said of the pagans?
The pagans, which were, you know, in this, they were subdued.
And let's say the Celts, for example, the Celts, the Britons, many of the pagans throughout the known world, the pagans being spoken about here, were subdued, right?
They were considered to be goi.
They were considered conquered.
They were outside the faith.
They were conquered.
Couldn't that?
That was the goal.
That's the goal of the Old Testament.
To eradicate all of Yahweh's a jealous God.
He doesn't want anybody to worship any other gods but him.
So that was the goal.
And no pagan, paganism is just a word for anybody that doesn't worship the God of Israel, really, is what it means.
Both the rabbis and Christians both have a common enemy in the pagan.
Anybody that doesn't want to bow before believe in Moshiachism, basically, and Yahweh.
And paganism isn't like one certain religion.
It's any religion that isn't Judeo, basically.
Yes, but how do we know it's not Jewish propaganda?
Which part of the same rationale?
Doesn't it benefit the Jews for pagans again to be written about in this manner to be conquered?
We're taking the same scripture.
It vilifies them.
It vilifies them.
Sure.
It vilifies Christians too, right?
The New Testament, there is vilification, all right?
There's vilification of those who fought against the Jews.
If the Jews in this theory, right, the Jews were the authors, right?
If this theory, that Christianity is a Jewish style, they are the authors of this grand scheme.
They would have had to have written much of the New Testament to control the narrative.
That's part of the theory.
Why, again, do we attribute such freedom to the pagans then?
Because in this sense, by the same rationale, paganism could also be a manifestation of this same Jewish psych, right?
And that's my point to this.
This has got to be true somewhere in here.
I found truth through Jesus Christ.
I believe he is the truth of the world.
He is the truth and the light.
He set me free.
I don't know if pagans can say the same.
It appears to be the pagan nations of the past have been subdued historically.
You don't have to look at the New Testament.
You can look simply at what happened to the Nordic nations.
They were subdued or they converted.
And this was completely separate from the Jews.
No, they conquered the Nords, the Vikings, with Christianity, with the power of the Roman Empire, using the sword of Esau to subdue the world, which they can then hijack at the end of the age, which we've seen happen.
So they condemned their Nordic gods.
They condemned, you know, of course, the gods that you could say brought them the strength and brought them their structure of governance.
They all converted to Christianity.
And it wasn't because they'd run into a bunch of Jews.
It was because they ran into Christians in Europe.
I don't know if you could find Jews up in Norway.
The Jews go.
Well, the top rabbis brag about this.
They say it's thanks to the Christian that the whole world knows the commandments and knows the laws of Moses and worships the God of Israel.
It's through the Christians that they spread.
The Christians did their dirty work.
The Jews would have never been able to conquer the world for the God of Israel without Christianity accomplished that for them.
Well, I'd say that did they sacrifice then their brethren at the hands of the pilgrims?
Because it was Christian nations that carried out the pogroms.
Was this part of the grand scheme, too?
It is, yeah.
And I think a lot of that could be exaggerations as well.
But that serves a positive purpose also.
It stops them from assimilating.
It provides them their divine atonement that they require while they're in exile.
It's created, it's vilified us now that we can't criticize them at all.
And Christians are like bending over backwards, repenting.
Oh, we're so sorry.
The Vatican says, we bear the mark of Cain.
And Pope Francis says, inside every Christian is a Jew, and we have to erase anti-Semitism from humanity.
And they still have a special role to play in God's name.
I mean, much of the pagan world was eradicated, and Judaism was preserved, protected, and is now more powerful than ever.
On that, I do think that there may have been a mistake made in the past to allow Judaism to spread, to use Jewish advisors and courts, and to, of course, treat the Jews as a special protected class.
I think these were mistakes and mistakes proven by the very original nature of their plots and schemes.
They were very wholly unrepentant after killing Christ.
And I think after the fact, they have done nothing but work to diminish societies and undermine them.
You can say today that's the result of it, protecting Jewish communities or trying to segregate them and stop slaughters.
I would say this, though, to pair that with that, it is the message of Christ to call them to repentance and not to murder them.
I'd say I definitely would not support forced conversions or killings, but I also think that more should have been done to stop the growth and spread of what was considered to be an original antichrist religion.
What's the original Antichrist religion?
Judaism.
After Christ appeared on earth, after Christ died at the cross, Judaism was anti-Christian.
It was anti-Christian.
It was literally fighting against Christianity.
Okay, so I saw someone in your chat saying, Adam never reads the Gospels, which is just so blatantly false.
It just proves that they're completely ignorant and don't watch any of my videos on this, which I have.
There's so much content out there, Adam.
There's so much content out there.
Maybe they get the chance.
There is.
If you're up at 5 a.m. your time, you'd be welcome to come to our Bible study at 7.15 a.m.
I would love you to have me.
I've still got so many more verses that we didn't get to today.
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
You're welcome every single day.
I don't host on Friday, so don't kill Frankie.
He's the one that hosts on Friday.
Ed, I hope I know you said that there's nothing that will change your mind, but this playlist, the Jesus deception play, Christianity Deception playlist, I go over all types of evidence supporting the idea that Christianity is a controlled opposition, Hegelian dialectic.
Verses like this, and this is one of the final ones we're going to have time for today.
Romans 15:12, again with Paul.
Remember, Paul wrote half of the New Testament.
Scholars believe he actually only wrote half of those epistles, about seven.
And Paul's writings come before all of the other gospels of the New Testament, right?
And he never even met Jesus when he was alive.
He saw him in visions and in scriptures.
He had a visitation on the road.
He had a vision and he saw him in the scriptures, is what he says.
Well, let's pull that verse.
Didn't he say he had a visitation for Jesus on the road for Damascus that his companions could not see?
But he literally heard from the Lord, why do you persecute my believers?
Why do you persecute me?
Why do you attack me?
Right?
Let's go to when Paul, when Paul turned from being Saul to Paul.
You know that in none of Paul's letters does he say anything about the road to Damascus that's not until Acts, which is probably written in late at the earliest, the late 90s, because the same author of Luke also, they believe, wrote Acts, and Luke was written after the 90s because he copied from Josephus and from Mark and Matthew.
But here's the verse.
Paul says in Galatians, the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
No man taught it to him.
None of the disciples taught it to him.
I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it by the revelation, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
So the author of half the books in the New Testament never actually even knew the man.
That's very suspicious.
And then he says that he's Jewish, basically.
And he says, listen, right there.
He learned it from Jesus Christ.
That's good.
Yeah, from visions, from visions and scriptures of Jesus Christ.
And it says, Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith And announce the gospel in advance to Abraham.
All nations will be blessed through you.
I've got lots of verses.
Adam, you know this.
I'll say this right now.
So I know you did not have an in-person mentor when you started to get buff and get in shape.
You learned a lot of the stuff you learned about fitness online from people you never met and from what you could say were digital, digital visions, right?
You got them from YouTube.
You got them probably from some good books.
You never met these people that taught you about a way to get healthy, get buff, use those muscles for carrying kids instead of waging war.
This is something I think you would agree with Paul in this notion.
Is Paul saying he learned what he learned about the gospel from Jesus Christ?
You could say he never physically met Jesus Christ while he had his ministry here on earth.
But likewise, that doesn't make the information worthless.
That doesn't make the information worthless or not real.
You've used information for fitness.
It makes me suspicious that I'm not suspicious of your muscles.
Your muscles are very big.
Right.
Talking about my godly physique.
He says, 1 Corinthians 15, I declare unto you the gospel which I preach unto you, which also ye have received.
In other words, everybody else just had visions and saw him in the scripture too.
What he received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures.
He says very clearly that he got it.
He was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures.
This is because they're reading Psalms and they're reading Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9 and Zachariah and Wisdom of Solomon and all these other books.
And then they said, oh, this is what this is God's mystery, he called it.
Well, I'd say this.
He was using reference material that they would understand.
Likewise, if you were somehow made the sultan of India, okay, and you wanted to turn them into likewise strong individuals, but all they know about is maybe eating sugar cane, lots of chicken.
They don't eat cows because it's sacred over there.
You would probably craft your message and explain to them about fitness around the consumption of proteins that they would accept and understand.
They'd understand chicken makes great curry.
This is what Paul is doing here.
He knows he's speaking to a group that was educated already in the Old Testament prophecies.
He's using this as an argumentative and a debate tactic.
It's also a way to communicate.
He didn't go there trying to speak some foreign language.
He spoke the language of their land, of their tongue.
This is something I think you would agree with.
It's a strategy of influence.
But past that, I would say this.
We have to be careful quoting from Jewish commentaries and Jewish criticisms.
I haven't done any of that today.
Well, this has been a Bible study, Ed.
All we've covered is the canonical Bible.
Part of it's from that five.
I have not brought one Talmud quote, not one Zohar quote, not one rabbi citation.
Well, you brought interpretations, interpretations.
Some you say of your own, but some I have heard.
Shall suck the wealth of the nations, the milk of the nations.
That sounds pretty clear.
This is pretty clear, too.
Romans 15:12, Paul says, and again, Isaiah said, There shall be a root of Jesse that shall, say it with me, rise to reign over the goyam.
In him shall the Gentiles, the Goyam trust.
And that's Isaiah 11:10.
There shall be a root of Jesse.
That's the Messiah.
Jesse was the father of David, which shall stand for a banner of the people.
To it shall the Gentiles seek.
See, he's saying the Gentiles are going to, the Jews are supposed to reject the Messiah.
He's supposed to die, and then he's supposed to go to the Gentiles.
Like, that was the plan.
To him, the Mashiach will the Goyim seek, is what the Orthodox Jewish Bible says.
And that's what I'm saying.
We keep bringing up what the Jews said about this, the Orthodox Jews have said about this.
Hold on, hold on, the only reason I'm showing the Orthodox Jewish Bible is because it says Goyam instead of nations.
That's the only reason.
Let's look at the words.
It puts it into perspective of what all of this, the context of what all of this means.
Perspective is sometimes based on context.
I'm saying that much of the context, maybe a Jew would agree with me on this.
It's a very Jewish way of looking at the scriptures.
Reign, for example, reign doesn't mean tyrannical.
Reign can simply mean be in charge of.
To be a reigning king, for example, doesn't automatically mean you're going to be a tyrant.
Okay?
You could say this has been true throughout history.
There's been good kings and bad kings.
In the sense of this, shall rise to reign over the Gentiles.
Maybe the Gentiles love to have a great king.
Has anyone asked the Gentiles of this?
It doesn't mean they're going to be made to be oppressed slaves.
It may mean they're being given a great hope, a great leader, great salvation, something that you can truly live for eternity with versus reigning as a devilish king, which would be terrible.
It is a devilish king.
If you see the verses in Isaiah 63, the day of vengeance, it says he's going to smite the nations.
He's going to trample on the skulls of the nations.
He's going to tread the wine press.
He's going to make the nations his footstool.
Look, here's another one from Paul here.
Editing images.
1 Corinthians 15.
Then the end will come when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all Gentile dominion, authority, and power, for he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
That's the goal is to conquer the world.
And Jesus largely has done that through Christianity and Islam, even.
And the problem is, you think this is a good thing.
You're fulfilling the prophecy of the Messiah to rule the world like it's a good thing.
Like you want to worship this God.
And it says, Matthew quotes Isaiah also, where it says, in his name, the Goyam will put their hope.
My servant, that's what the Messiah does.
He will bring justice to the nations.
The islands will put their hope.
That's from Isaiah 42.
Also, judgment to the Gentiles.
Justice and hope are good.
And not in the way of God.
It means we will put our hope in them.
Like we will follow him, is what it means.
Well, that's an interpretation.
I'd say that justice and hope are good things.
Justice to the nations, again, for us to live lawlessly, and you don't want to live lawlessly.
You live in a very law-filled society.
I think we've both benefited and a great law-filled upbringing.
But I'd say this: isn't that the biggest complaint of this nation?
Is that our laws are not being followed and they're being unjustly executed on a certain block, a certain conservative Christian, right-leaning block of this country?
It does not mean it's terrible.
Someone is going to rule this world, and someone's going to rule the world to come.
The part that I'd say is true and has been prophesied about is who wins.
I'm going to back the winner, and I don't want to fight the winner in how that winner is going to exercise victory.
But I do know this.
The winner's not saying that it's going to be some kind of massacre.
It's actually, as you've read in this scripture here, it is earned judgment, earned judgment.
Is it unjust to put a murderer, a child pedophile, a rapist, these people in jail?
No, it's what they had coming to them.
It's what they had coming to them for the safety of society, but also for the justice in society.
But more than this, Christ seeds hope.
That's what's being discussed here.
The blessed hope.
Because we discuss despair in this Bible study.
It is despair, Phil, to not know where you're going to go after you pass on.
If you die in a car crash, you don't know where you're going to go.
I can tell you what the scriptures say.
You don't know where you're going to go and you haven't put your faith in Jesus Christ.
You are going to burn in hell.
That sounds terrible.
That's true tyranny.
True tyranny would be for someone to burn and decide to give over to the devil to burn for eternity.
I think that's more than just pride and ignorance.
It's just this for those who have rebelled against the commands and the orders.
And I'd say more than this, the selected way of living for his creation.
It is just for those to be judged.
And we're not on the same page when it comes to the Lord.
The Lord is not my peer.
He's my king.
He's someone I follow, not someone I see and pretend to not like.
I say I don't see him and I don't like him.
Here's Liam T. Jarrett says, this is the best Bible study I've ever seen.
I thought it was very thought-provoking, and I really appreciate Ed bringing his perspective to all of this.
This is Isaiah 63, the great day of God's day of vengeance and redemption on Edom, which they believe is Christianity.
I trampled the Goyam in my anger, in my wrath.
I made them drunk and poured their blood on the ground.
I have trodden the wine press alone from the Goyam.
No one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath.
Their blood splattered my garments and I stained all my clothing.
It was for me the day of vengeance for the year for me to redeem had come.
What do you think this means, this verse?
God's day of vengeance and redemption.
I'd have to read this for context.
I'd say, is this speaking about the judgment that befell this nation?
Or is this speaking about the last day of earth?
It's the end times.
It was for me the day of vengeance, the end times.
Well, I'd say this then.
All right, so when the Lord dispatches his angels, his reapers, to separate the saved from the unsaved, they are being taken to Lake Afar to burn.
They're not being massacred.
The last day, as described by the New Testament gospel, describes everybody who's ever lived being resurrected and then taken to their final destination.
This battle, this massacre.
The rabbis believe that all of the Gentiles, all of the souls of Esau that persecuted them all throughout history will be reincarnated so they can be destroyed in the end.
So they believe the same thing.
I don't discount that the Jews being a broken clock might have a few things that they've copied from the right side.
I don't think that's out of the way.
No, the Christians and the rabbis both got it from their same mutual holy book, from the Old Testament.
Here's Soup says, Ed, oddly, Rome has no records of prison swapping with Judea, nor of crucifying a Judean king.
The first account of crucifixion came from Saul 60 years later, more like 20 to 30 years later, and only saw it in a dream.
Don't you find this a bit odd?
No, as again, the faith is living.
It's a living faith.
The Holy Spirit is alive in me.
It's not a lie.
So I'd say that the interesting part about the authorship, while the book's authorship, you date them back to, well, no one was writing them down.
It wasn't like we had printing presses in the first century.
It was, however, kept on the tongues on the minds of those who witnessed the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who witnessed literal dead people walking around in Jerusalem as an act of this resurrection.
I'd say this to the naysayers on that.
While it may have not been written down yet, trust me, trust me, people were eyewitnesses to it.
It's not antidotal.
They spread it, and it spreads so far because people actually saw it.
It doesn't mean that it's fake because it wasn't written down.
We live in this era where we have access to instant publishing.
We can publish online right now and say whatever we want.
In that age, it wouldn't, there's easy.
You don't have the printing press in that age.
You do have word of mouth, which is how the gospel spread.
There's just real quickly, there's a chapter in the book, Nailed 10 Myths about Jesus, a whole chapter about were the gospels written by eyewitnesses.
It's on Audible if you're interested.
Last super chat.
Sorry, I've missed any guys.
John Gratis Giratus says, Ed, what parts of the Bible should be taken literally and how do you decide which ones should be taken literally and which not?
Let's try this one, throwing babies' heads, crushing the baby's heads on the rocks.
Are you talking about the judgment against the Cainites?
That's what that verse is talking about.
Maybe just answer the first part, because I already know what you're going to say about that.
That's the old law, and that's fulfilled, and we have the new covenant now, and that rule doesn't apply anymore.
I already know your answer.
But literal, not literal, what would you say?
I'd say I do lean to literal interpretation of the scriptures.
And certainly I put every verse from the Old Testament in context of what Jesus Christ addressed and what Jesus Christ's gospel is.
He told us, again, that our mission is the fulfillment of the Great Commission, the Great Commission, the spreading of the gospel to all the nations, and then the end shall come.
I'd say the Lord did not raise me up to kill, but instead to provide restoration and share the message of life.
And that's what I do.
I'm not rolling around with a machine gun or machete.
I'm instead rolling around with the scriptures in my heart and in my head, and I'm sharing with people who need hope.
I'd say the action right there is an example of the difference.
You're never going to find Edward Zoll cracking babies'heads open on rocks.
What you will find is Edward holding a happy baby.
I've got many nieces and nephews now, and I'm going to share the gospel with them, and I think they're going to have a great time with it.
Well, we can end on that positive note.
Thank you, everybody, for watching, and a huge thank you to you, Ed, for coming on once again.
It's a pleasure.
And sharing your perspective on all of these things.
got so many more verses to go go through i would love to come on your channel and share my thoughts on some of these and uh why don't you plug where people can find you and where they can follow more your work and and your bible studies and any thoughts you have cozy cozy.tv uh crosstalk news is uh where you can find it cozy.tv slash crosstalknews you found me on telegram and for you adam as i said i i'm constantly praying for you and your family uh if you'd like to uh to join us for
the Morning Bible Slayer, you're more than welcome.
And of course, you're welcome to join us in person if you want to come out to any events we're at, even half-pack.
It's not my event to invite to, but of course, I would love to hang out with you in person, and I'm sure we can have a robust conversation.
We seem to have an hour-long conversation anytime we talk anyway, so I think we quite enjoy our company together.
And maybe you can give a class about lifting to some of these folks.
You're trying to get them in shape, okay?
You've got to give a little class about health because a lot of people want to give Adam a lot of crap, but you got to be careful coming against Adam physically because Adam will say it to my face.
That's what I tell these trolls.
I like to see you say that to my face.
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