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	Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to No More News Live.
	It is Thursday, January 26, 2023.
	And today I have some very special guests that I've been wanting to speak with for a long time, for several years.
	The guys behind the Jew function on YouTube and on Twitter are here.
	We have Leo and his partner, Seth, is here.
	What's up, Seth?
	Seth, are you there?
	Seth, you're mute.
	You're muted.
	I am here.
	I am here, guys.
	Hello.
	Hello, there he is.
	All right.
	Two good men calling in from Israel and they run an account on Twitter and YouTube.
	I've been following for years.
	We've had some interactions.
	What I like about these guys is that they like to have conversations with quote-unquote anti-Semites.
	I've seen shows that they've done with E. Michael Jones and Kevin McDonald, Mark Weber.
	They just recently had on Lucas Gage.
	But really, they've just been wanting to talk to me all along so we can get deep into some Kabbalah stuff, right, guys?
	That's our specialty.
	Specialty.
	And talking about a lot of things that I've been covering recently, how anti-Semitism is a necessary force for Judaism.
	You guys, can you comment on that?
	You should get my book, Jew, the Antidote to Anti-Semitism.
	It talks exactly about that.
	Okay, the antidote to anti-Semitism.
	What is the antidote to anti-Semitism?
	Unity and love.
	But we'll talk about it.
	We need to open this up.
	You know, if a five-year-old plays soccer and you'd say, go play soccer and Messi goes play soccer and you say go play soccer, you're telling them both to play soccer, but it means something totally different, right?
	Because one of them has like tens of thousands of hours of what that means to him, even though the words are exactly the same.
	So let's kind of open everything up here because we can throw around a lot of words, but unless we share the same definitions and understandings of what we're talking about, I saw after our talk with Lucas all the comments and I realized what a challenge we have ahead of us because we're so misunderstood.
	Even if we're using words that we think we're being real clear on it because everyone has a different frame.
	So we should start at zero and then we'll get there.
	Yes, it's like zero, zero AD.
	Zero D. Start at the beginning of time.
	Beginning of time.
	Yeah.
	I mean, look.
	Look, there's, we were just talking before this, and we were thinking, okay, you brought up a lot of topics, like, let's cover this and this and this and this.
	And as Seth said, I think I think it all, well, not all of it, but a lot of it goes back to just a huge misunderstanding.
	And I'm saying huge as in, it's a collective misunderstanding.
	It's not like something was misunderstood, but rather a lot of people are just not understanding.
	And it goes back to how we see, you know, just understanding how we perceive reality and our place in it.
	And then the, let's say, the religions that appeared in reality in humanities, history, how they appeared, why they appeared, the people that appeared there, the books that they left, the texts, their meaning, what to do with it, where's it all going?
	There's just a huge misunderstanding on all of it.
	Now, like you said in the beginning, it's all necessary because humanity had to sort of ripen to a certain place before you can even open up these things.
	Like we couldn't, you know, we wouldn't be able to have these conversations 200 years ago.
	And that's because technology, just we wouldn't be, right?
	There's, you know, the mindset was so different.
	Even 50 years ago, it was difficult, but now we can.
	So there's a certain maturity.
	And what matured is the human ego.
	That's at the heart of everything.
	And because you said Kabbalah, and people, you know, said Kabbalah immediately, people are like, oh, you know, magic.
	No, none of it.
	It simply talks about one thing, and that is human desire.
	So we're all made the same way underneath all the, you know, all the protein stuff and all the outside stuff at the heart of everything is what we call the desire, a desire to enjoy, to receive pleasure, right?
	That's all everything is.
	Still level, you know, rocks, they have a desire, right, to keep their structure.
	Plants, animals, humans, everything is a desire to receive pleasure.
	And it's just simply growing more and more complex as it develops from the beginning of space-time.
	It's really just an evolution of that desire.
	How can I get more pleasure for less effort?
	And as my ego grows, as my desire to receive pleasure grows, I devise new ways to fill it.
	The only problem is that everything else in nature is kind of moving, you know, automatically.
	It's part of the system of nature.
	Humans have a tiny bit of free choice, really tiny, but it's enough to kind of leave us sort of wandering in the dark.
	And we are working with this desire to receive pleasure with an intention for ourselves.
	And that's really our starting point is opposite to everything else.
	Everything else kind of works, right?
	Receives pleasure, gives, you know, receives and gives sort of in harmony in nature, right?
	A lion only eats a gazelle.
	It doesn't hoard gazelles in the freezer and sells it, you know, overpriced to the other lions, right?
	It's all very much intuitively organized, you can say.
	Humans break that equation because we like to receive pleasure in order to receive it.
	That's kind of a Kabbalistic expression, but it essentially means selfishly, egoistically.
	I want to enjoy at the expense of everything and everyone.
	That's the starting point of humanity.
	Do you guys consider yourselves Kabbalists?
	Yes, this is what we do for the last several decades.
	Our teacher is a giant Kabbalist who is a disciple of a huge Kabbalist who is the disciple of Baala Sulam, who wrote the commentary on the book of Zohar.
	This is our life.
	This is how we perceive.
	So for example, Adam.
	Can you give us some of those names?
	I know it's Rabbi Leightman.
	Who taught Rabbi Leightman?
	Who is this?
	His teachers called the Rabash are a BA Baruch Ashlag.
	Ashlog, yeah.
	Doesn't he have something to do with Kabbalah Center as well?
	Nothing at all.
	That's Berg, Rabbi Berg, right?
	Yeah.
	So our entire method comes from Bal HaSulam, who wrote the Sulam Commentary on the Zohar.
	That's where...
	That's right.
	And his father and teacher was Yehuda Ashlog, Bala Sulam.
	So that's where our method comes from.
	There was a branch that the Madonna Kabbalah Center, also somebody from Bala Sulaam, but that's not our lineage.
	So yes, this is what we study every day for several hours.
	Wake up in the middle of the night, as Kabbalists have done for thousands of years.
	And we study several hours a day from these books that have been passed down from student to teacher for thousands of years.
	And our teacher is a great Kabbalist.
	So, Adam, when you okay, so years and years ago, I was fixing houses and I was fixing houses somewhere, fixing a house upstate.
	I was fixing some toilet in upstate New York, literally replacing a toilet.
	And I saw that on the wall of these people's house, there was an African-American family, and there was the Last Supper with a black Jesus, like the whole Last Supper, and it was black.
	I thought that was pretty interesting.
	I hadn't seen that before.
	I googled it.
	It turns out there's also Chinese Jesus, black Jesus, white Jesus, everybody, Buddha Jesus, everyone has their own Jesus.
	So, what we're dealing with is each group of people has some framework that they like, for example, Adam, take yourself.
	You have books you study or teachers you study from, a worldview.
	And so, no matter what happens in life, you're digesting it through that worldview, right?
	Okay, so for us, for example, you open up books by Baruch Ashlag, who you looked at before.
	Okay, so Baruch Ashla says, for example, I know that you asked us about Esau, for example.
	So, he says, There's many, and he writes in his articles, I can send you 20, I can send you a couple dozen examples of where he writes this.
	He says, In the literal, there's many examples, but when we're speaking about spiritual matters, and that's what we study, that's our frame.
	That's how Leo and I look at the world.
	That's how Kabbalists look at the world, true Kabbalists look at the world.
	Esau and Israel are all talking about what's going on inside of a person inside of all people inside of each and every person.
	So, what we're saying is, even an idol worshiper and what is Israel, and all of this, in everything, there's internality and externality.
	And what we, the way we see the world now, after all of these years and all of these hours, and what we study and how we understand the world is all of this, everything in the Torah takes place inside of one person.
	What does your branch of Kabbalah, how is it related to Chabad Lubavitch?
	It's not it's well, so I'll just okay, so let me just uh bring a very quick, brief history of everything, just so it's somewhat clear.
	Okay, I can't promise it's gonna be crystal clear, but a brief history of everything okay, go ahead of everything, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And no, we can do like a 20-hour series here and like break it down into chapters, and then we can we can open up all these things.
	I wanted to ask you, Seth, too.
	I've I didn't realize it until Lucas sent it to me, but I've watched some of your really old Kabbalah videos that you did when you had your long hair, and I was like, Oh, that is the guy.
	How can I find one of those?
	I want to share one of those on screen right now.
	And embarrass me, okay, we won't pull them up if they're that if it'll embarrass me.
	No, but you could go to kabuconnect.com.
	You have all these uh courses uh available there.
	Um, I think most of them are free just by signing up, and then you know, so you could, but let me let me just give a very brief history of just of just the development of Kabbalah because Kabbalah predates everything, right?
	Predates all the religions.
	So, very, you know, in brief, you probably know that Jews have a way of counting the years, right?
	We're right now at 5,880 or 81, right?
	784, isn't it?
	500, 700.
	5,784, correct.
	So, that's the Jewish year.
	Now, what is it?
	What is it?
	What is it counting?
	It's not the beginning of the world.
	No, the world, you know, you have the way science measures it, the Big Bang 14 billion years ago, developing, right?
	Matter cooling, aggregating.
	You get galaxies, solar systems, you get our soul system.
	So, that's basically the time of the still life period, right?
	I told you, there's like still vegetative animates, right?
	So, still, most of the universe is just matter, inanimate matter.
	Then, after billions of years, so it's like a pyramid, right?
	The billions of years, you start to get a lot of people.
	Spiegler, for one second, Adam, in your opening sequence, you had a pyramid at the top.
	You had a Star of David, it said the Jewish soul.
	Okay, so what we're talking about, when you, and this is totally misunderstood what we're talking about, and we talk about the Jewish soul, Jewish meaning from Ichud, from unity, Israel meaning Yashar El straight to the Creator.
	So, what we're talking about is a Leo.
	I'm going to, sorry, I'm just clarifying something, then please jump right back in.
	At that top of the pyramid, you know, it says like in Psalms, they were all as beasts, meaning we're all living just like animals.
	The fact that we wear jackets and shave our beards, fine, but it's still as an animal.
	The next level for each and every person, what we're calling this Jew, what is here referred to as Jewish soul.
	Obviously, we're understanding it in a different way.
	We're talking about the desire that, Leo, this is what you were just talking about.
	Actually, before this, there's the inanimate, then the vegetative, then the animal.
	Human soul, I don't know what that is.
	But the point is, is that when those monkeys get to the point, when each monkey, wherever he is, whatever country he's from, Spiegler, let me pass it back to you.
	I just wanted to clarify this.
	By monkeys, do you mean humans?
	Do you guys believe in evolution?
	Well, I think we're all monkeys.
	Do you guys believe in evolution?
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Not Darwin's way, but actually, the end is already known.
	So, from Darwin, everything is developing from zero.
	For us, the end is already known, and we already know where that is going.
	So, let me let me jump in.
	Let me just put it in order because I'll try to be brief, and I'll try to put it in order for everyone.
	So, yes, there is evolution, right?
	Everything evolves, right?
	There's no question there.
	The only difference is that modern day scientists, evolutionaries, they say, well, it evolves as a result of pressures from the environment towards an unknown goal.
	Whereas Kabbalists say, no, there's a purpose to all of creation, right?
	There's a starting point, an ending point, and a process in between.
	And we're in that process.
	We're moving from point A to point C. We're somewhere in point B. Okay, so that's just one very simple model of reality.
	So the experience doesn't change.
	It's simply how they see it.
	Okay, that's the first thing.
	Now, so imagine this, right?
	Very slow evolution of matter, right?
	What's happening?
	Matter aggregates into denser and denser matter, right?
	So from atom, subatomic particles to atoms to molecules, right?
	And then there's a leap, right?
	After a lot of quantity, you get a qualitative leap, and you start to get plant matter, right molecules that behave as plants, right?
	So they're still very much stuck together in a way they move together, but they can already display a certain control over what comes in, what goes out, right?
	As far as pleasure, this, you know, carbon dioxide gives me pleasure.
	Pleasure, okay, it's the same.
	Fulfillment.
	That's what I need to exist, right?
	To maintain my form, right?
	So that's that's a plant level.
	And then that, you know, additional degrees of order, right, and connection happen between the disparate elements.
	You get a hierarchy of being.
	It's an evolution of desire, but you experience it as something external to you that happened in time, but it's happening inside of you right now as well.
	Let me jump in again, Leo, and then we'll go back again.
	For example, the light from the sun, it left the sun, I think they say like eight minutes ago.
	Okay, and a certain star, you know, when you look at the sky, the light coming from this star left that star four years ago, and the star next to it left that star eight, ten years ago, let's say.
	And the light from the sun left the sun eight minutes ago.
	So what we're perceiving now happened in the past.
	Like, okay.
	So what we're talking about really perception of reality, because what Leo was saying was we perceive it as outside of us.
	But if we're talking about spirituality, which is again how, even though we're normal people, Leo and I and everyone else, you know, goes to the bathroom, pays the bills, all the normal kind of things.
	But our perception of how we see the world is a spiritual perception.
	So if we're talking about spiritual states, then all of the spiritual states are already predetermined.
	We're just revealing them in relation to us.
	There's no time or space in spirituality.
	So all of the everything that ever would exist already occurs already.
	How does that conversation?
	No, how does Moses write, for example, what happened to Abraham?
	Right?
	How is that happening?
	Why?
	Because there's a degree, a spiritual degree called Abraham.
	And when you're on that degree called Abraham, you see what's on the degree of, you see what's there.
	You hear what's there.
	You feel what's there.
	I thought it was angels or God spoke, dictated the Torah.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	There's a lot of confusion there.
	I told you.
	Let me just finish the timeline, Seth.
	And then, because otherwise, I'm afraid that it's going to be, there's a lot of material, and we have a desire to unload a lot of it.
	Yeah.
	You know, going fast, going kind of quickly through it is not going to help anyone.
	So I'd rather go slowly and we do it again if needed, you know.
	But just follow the timeline for now.
	It is outside of us.
	Let's just forget perception of reality for a second, what Seth mentioned, just the timeline, okay?
	Time of events.
	You have development of still matter, then development of plant matter, animate degree, right?
	Those are all degrees, higher and higher degrees of order.
	Nature arranges the pieces together in greater degrees of complexity, right?
	You have more pieces coming together above more opposing forces, by the way, right?
	There's greater friction in between the parts until the human level that we saw now.
	It's also a branch somewhere from primates, and we share a lot of similarities, but that was another qualitative leap which produced this animal, okay?
	But this animal was a little different because it has the potential to become human.
	So we're not human yet.
	We call ourselves human.
	In Kabbalah, we say that we call something based on its future, its end goal, right?
	So I call you a man, Adam, and your name is Adam.
	So it's kind of like, it's nice.
	It's a good, nice little plug there.
	So Adam from the word dome in Hebrew, similar, okay?
	Similar to, similar to what?
	Similar to the creator, the force of love and bestow.
	So we, who are simply a desire to receive pleasure, but an egoistic one, we have the ability to actually continue this evolution, this last step in the evolution, consciously, willingly.
	It's not going to happen automatically like the previous degrees, right?
	Nature kind of brought us to the top of the pyramid, but the last step is on us.
	And in that step, in that development, we're supposed to go through the full kind of degree and become something that is similar to the creator, similar to the force of love and bestow.
	We're not there yet.
	There is no real love and bestowal in us.
	We're all a bunch of egoists.
	We have our own little interests and we're willing to cooperate and collaborate if it serves our interests.
	But we don't really love.
	The closest in nature is a mother's love, right?
	It's very selfless.
	You can kind of imagine it.
	But it's really only an example because it's imposed on the mother, right?
	She doesn't develop it herself.
	We have to develop it ourselves through a certain methodology.
	So imagine this whole evolution, this whole pyramid of desires, and you have animals that look like people basically living on this planet as well for several thousands of years.
	And then about almost 6,000 years ago, one of these animals, one of these human animals, let's call them, which had language, had all the kind of all the characteristics of a human, right?
	Externally at least.
	One of them suddenly asked, like, wait a second, why are we here?
	Why are we alive?
	What's the meaning of all of this?
	It didn't just try to survive and kind of, you know, get the most whatever, food or whatever.
	It asked a question, what is the meaning of this?
	That question did not exist.
	There was no question like that.
	It was simply, how do I improve my situation on the planet?
	Do I have to worship someone?
	Great.
	Do I have to sacrifice someone?
	Great.
	I have to hunt, fight, whatever I have to do to get, you know, more pleasure for less effort, right?
	For less pain.
	But this person asked, and his name was Adam, by the way.
	No coincidences.
	He asked, why are we alive?
	What's the meaning of all of this?
	By asking that, he already suddenly, like, imagine like an animal suddenly raising its head from the trough.
	This is what it means to be the first man.
	The first Jewish soul.
	So was he the first?
	Adam raised his consciousness to have a Jewish soul and try to question the bigger question.
	So when you say, let's also take...
	It wasn't Jewish yet.
	There's no such thing as Jews yet.
	Right now, there's just someone with a certain degree of attainment, as we call it in Kabbalah, of the spiritual world, of the inner forces that operate everything.
	He's like the first person who opened the computer and be like, oh my God, the stuff on the screen is just like pictures.
	There's actually all these wires and stuff inside, right?
	That's what this first man or Adam did.
	Okay, so it's not the creation of the world.
	That's not what Kabbalah counts.
	So Adam was the first Kabbalah then.
	Correct.
	He was the first person to discover, oh, I can receive, I can perceive the inner workings of reality and the force behind it, the creator.
	You went from fed plant to animal.
	Vegetative to, or you went from inanimate to vegetative.
	You went from vegetative to animate.
	And then from the animate, the first one of the speech, right?
	The whole planet didn't become green overnight.
	Again, in green, here we go.
	But no, Adam, the whole planet didn't become covered in vegetation in one day.
	The whole planet didn't get covered in animals in one day.
	And these things, and actually, if you look at the amount of billions of years of inanimate material until you got to vegetative, it was billions.
	Then you're talking about hundreds of millions or probably even another couple billion until you got to vegetative and then a couple hundred million until you get to animal.
	And then so it's getting shorter and shorter and shorter each time.
	And a pyramid again.
	And now from the animate state to get to the spiritual state in the same way.
	The whole planet is not covered in a minute in spirituality, the same way that vegetative took time to cover and animal took time to cover.
	And we took time to, you know, this creature that we are now took time to cover this next step.
	We're right now in the trend, in a transition step.
	The Ari writes about this.
	Leo, maybe tell me where he already writes about these transition steps.
	We're in a transition step between the animal degree and the spiritual degree.
	Now, okay, now, to get back, because this whole thing started from, you know, what, you know, the origin of Jews and the lineage of Kabbalists.
	So I want to kind of bring it to that because this will be now be a little easier to comprehend.
	Again, we're looking at history outside of us, right?
	Our usual perception of reality.
	There's time, there is space.
	We're not even talking about what happened before that.
	We're just talking about the usual flow of events.
	So once this first person got that awakening, right, that attainment, it was very small, right?
	Like very, the intensity of it was very small.
	He was very much connected to nature, right?
	It was very much like an animal.
	These people who lived thousands of years ago had an innate connection to nature, right?
	Wasn't Adam sleeping with all the animals?
	You get into the biblical story.
	We'll explain that.
	It wasn't sleeping with them.
	It was naming them.
	But we'll get to that.
	We'll get to the Bible in a second.
	We'll get to the leave the Bible for another five minutes.
	Because that's another big misunderstanding.
	So you have Adam, who's the first Kaabas, he wrote a book.
	Okay.
	The man writes a book.
	I don't know how he wrote a book 6,000 years ago.
	He writes it.
	We have it.
	It's called Raziel Amalach, Raziel the Angel.
	That's the book that he writes describing his attainment.
	And, you know, this kind of continues from generation to generation, 10 generations to Noah.
	Remember, Noah, the story, right?
	10 generations from Noah to Abraham.
	Abraham in Babylon is really the beginning of Kabbalah as we know it and of the Jewish people as we know it.
	Up until then, it was really just kind of very slow evolution of this whole concept of attainment, of spirituality.
	There wasn't really any, you know, it's like a child, right?
	In the first few years of the child's life, there's very little interaction with other children, right?
	It's more like me, right?
	I'm just absorbing.
	It's very much like that.
	But it's really at that point, at the point of Abraham in Babylon, three and a half thousand years ago, and we talk about it in a lot of our podcasts.
	That's when you have an established human society, highly advanced, much like today, not so much maybe the nanotechnology, but very advanced, trading, working together, all of that.
	And that's when suddenly there was another leap, another qualitative leap of that human ego, right?
	That desire to receive at the expense of everyone.
	Suddenly that harmonious existence broke down.
	Broke down.
	And you can read about it in the sources, other historians who write about that time, and mainly biblical historians.
	But there was suddenly a breakdown in the relationship between these people, these little families, clans of people who live together.
	About 3 million people.
	It's a big group of people.
	Probably the busiest center at the time.
	And they break down and the natural inclination is to run away, right?
	Move apart.
	Like, let's get a divorce type of thing, right?
	It's not working out.
	I don't like you.
	You don't like me.
	I don't trust you.
	You don't trust me.
	Let's just break it up.
	Abraham, who was a local priest observing nature, he saw what was going on and he realized that this was not a push by nature to simply split.
	Rather, it was an invitation to rise to a higher degree of existence.
	How?
	By actually overcoming this newfound friction between people and seeking to care for the other, like, love, make efforts to kind of maintain the bonds above that feeling of friction.
	Kind of like you married?
	Yes.
	So kind of like in a marriage, right?
	You commit to marry someone.
	It starts nicely.
	Then after a while, it's like, oh, you notice all these kind of traits that maybe you didn't know before, you didn't like so much.
	Or maybe there's fights, but you make efforts to kind of keep the bond above that.
	And that creates a stronger relationship between you, a richer, deeper relationship.
	It's the same thing.
	It's the same way you make electricity, right?
	You take plus and minus, who normally would short-circuit each other, and you put a little resistance between them.
	It's this exact same science.
	Jews and genuine.
	Jews and Gentiles are like a battery.
	Like a duality.
	Yes.
	Like Jacob and Esau.
	Kind of.
	Like the light in the dark.
	All of the stuff is always about because, okay, now you're getting into light and clear.
	We'll get to that in a second.
	I just want to finish the timeline for your listeners because they, you know, they're waiting to hear.
	So just very, just in brief on that, Abraham basically finds out, he says, this is the way to do it.
	If you want to learn how to do it, come join me.
	He opens his tent, right?
	Everyone knows the story.
	Come.
	10,000 people or so join him.
	That's the birth of what would become the Jewish nation, the ones who seek to unite, Jew, Yeodi, unity.
	It's from that word, okay?
	That's the inner kind of meaning of that word.
	Those people who followed Abraham wanted to learn how to do it and kept that method and developed it, grew it between them.
	Everybody else kind of split up.
	So those who split up were the they are the origins of the nations of the world, all 70 nations and all the different kind of variations that we have around us.
	Those who stuck to Abraham and went through that process later became the Jewish people.
	And obviously that was a dynamic group, people joining, leaving, falling apart.
	So they go through a process of developing this method.
	I'm not going to go into all of it, right?
	It includes going to the land of Israel, the Latin of Canaan at the time, then going to Egypt, then coming out of Egypt, and finally reaching a high degree of connection between them, the highest.
	So Mount Sinai is one such point, and then the temples, right?
	The first and second temples, those were another really high degrees of connection.
	And in that time, they really lived up to that word Jew.
	Seth and I have an episode on it.
	It's episode seven in Our podcast called Temple Love.
	It's actually, you know, the Greeks talk about it.
	Everybody was like looking up to, oh, what's happening there in Israel?
	People are coming in, pilgrims.
	It's like a big woodstock.
	That was the highest point of connection that the Jews achieved.
	The temple was a symbol of that connection.
	It wasn't really the stones and the marble and all that.
	It was the connection.
	And they fell from that connection and spread among the nations of the world.
	And that's the beginning of the wisdom of Kabbalah going into concealment.
	As the Jews, Jews went into exile, the wisdom goes into concealment, and you have the beginning of religion.
	What is religion?
	The external, right?
	External expression of these ideas without the internality.
	So, first, Judaism, then Christianity, Islam, their development of those external expressions, which were designed to keep people while all of humanity was in exile, if you will, developing its ego, also growing, right?
	Just like the Jews went through a very fast-paced growth of their ego in a very short period of time, humanity is also doing that in a slightly longer route with the Jews mixed in, you know, for good measure.
	All of humanity is growing its ego.
	And that lineage of Kabbalists really kind of starts from the time of the temple.
	They have the wisdom.
	It's past the first temple and then the second temple.
	Yeah, the first and first they go into exile in Babylon.
	They come back, they build a second one, they canonize the wisdom.
	First, it existed in the Bible.
	The Bible is exactly manual for inner transformation, also totally misread.
	Then they canonize it in the Talmud, another language to describe the same process using a different language.
	And later on, the book of Zohar, the Rabbi Shimon, writes with his, you know, nine students in a cave, also describing the same thing in a different language.
	And from that moment on, you get these Kabbalists and their groups going, going through history.
	And our lineage essentially goes traces from Abraham and to Moses to Rabbi Shimon to 1500 years of darkness, the dark ages, right?
	To the Ari in the 16th century, to Baal Shemtov in the 17th century, and then to Baal Sulam and his son, the Rabash and our teacher like that's the line that we follow.
	Sort of like this, the middle line of the wisdom.
	So you're split with Chabad Lubavitch is at Baal Shem Tov.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	And again, the split, you know, why are there all those splits?
	Well, why is this happening?
	Because people have different levels of development, right?
	Of maturity, different abilities to kind of comprehend the internality of the wisdom.
	So certain Kabbalists come and say, we think we should open it up in this way.
	And then another group says, no, no, we shouldn't, right?
	There's always this tension, tension that exists in reality.
	The inner tension, the outer tension, it's always there.
	So you have these streams kind of breaking off, and eventually people in attainment make way for people who are not in attainment.
	And that's the beginning of the modern-day confusion.
	A lot of different streams of Judaism that came from an original understanding and attainment of the wisdom and now are really nothing more than sort of the external aggregation, right, of people around certain courts, if you will.
	Okay, that was kind of like you kind of got that.
	Yeah, I've got lots of questions from the things you're talking about there.
	It's amazing to me.
	I wasn't aware that Kabbalah, it's a tradition to wake up in the middle of the night and study, read the Zohar.
	Is the Zohar like the top Kabbalah book to you guys?
	But there's many other Kabbalah books also?
	Tef?
	Yes.
	What are like some of the, if the Zohar is the top, what are some of the other like main Kabbalistic?
	There's many, there's, there's endless books.
	Here's what we're interested in.
	We're interested in what we can do.
	There's, I mean, Adam, you could uncover every secret of the universe, everything.
	What we're interested in is the process that we're all going through, this process of transformation now.
	We're interested in, and I hope, I mean, I hope I'm not misunderstood here.
	So please, everyone who's listening, you know, take off your conspiracy glasses for a minute.
	The goal is for life to be good for everyone.
	Not that we're going, that anyone is going to rule over anyone, control anyone.
	However, nature organizes us, each in our own cultures, however it happens in a harmonious, loving way.
	The goal is for all of us to go through this transformation.
	Obviously, you're aware of all of the bullshit that's coming out now, and it's the exposure of human nature now at every level in education, in healthcare, in finance, everywhere you look in religion, in everything.
	So the books that we study are only the books that deal with our inner process of transformation.
	So from the Zohar and Baal esulam's commentary on the Zohar.
	And so primarily we're reading and studying the Zohar, a little bit of the Ari, and the study of the Tensifirot.
	All of the commentaries on that from Baal Sulam, who that is where our method comes from.
	Ba'ala Sulaam wrote the Sulam commentary, the latter commentary on the Zohar.
	He also wrote the study of the Tensfirot, which is the commentary on the Ari's tree of life.
	Then his son, the Rabash.
	So that's all mostly, most of that is called from there's two parts of the study.
	One is called From Above to Below, where you study the structure of reality.
	I'm sure you've heard of like Yudhai Vavhe, right?
	This primordial structure.
	So how the light cascades from Ain Soph down, down through all of the worlds, through all of the parts of Fim, down all the way, even passes into this world.
	And then we have this physical world that we perceive.
	And then the other part of the study is what our teacher's teacher wrote primarily about, which is this inner work that we do on the way from below to above.
	Let me just say something in parentheses about books, just to clear that up as well, because I'm sure it's a question.
	So just like in every science, so Kabbalah is a science, as I explained, the science of desire or the science of human connection, which they're all related.
	Isn't it kind of like mystical esoteric secrets of the Torah?
	No.
	No, no.
	Kabbalists spread those mythologies in order to dissuade people from approaching it before they were ready to actually work with it, right?
	It's like they made up all these stories because humanity wasn't ready.
	There was no point in everybody opening the books of Kabbalah and getting even more confused than they already were.
	Now is the time that they wrote about it.
	They said, you know, at the end of the 20th century, actually, as early as the 16th century, we were able to start opening it up.
	Everything has transitioned to it.
	But about books, so every science, every science that you look, you know, in the world, you look at astronomy, archaeology, you have many people having their own experience of that field, and they find some things and they write about it, right?
	So, in a way, all these books are valid.
	Same thing with Kabbalah.
	You have a lot of people who are actually great Kabbalists in attainment.
	There was a time where really every Kabbalist was indeed a person who attained some degree of spirituality.
	There are 125 degrees.
	That's how we kind of divide it.
	And they attain a certain level and they write from that level.
	Now, the thing is, just like in science, right?
	You can read some science, you can open up some science books and be like, I don't understand what he's writing about, right?
	It's just too up there.
	Or someone writes something, it's too down there.
	And some are really good at kind of building a little ladder for you to understand concepts in science, right?
	Like physics and Newtonian and Einsteinian and quantum, right?
	You can kind of get it.
	And the thing is that we are focusing on books that are the most effective at helping us climb that ladder, as Seb was saying, from below up.
	So you can read for fun a lot of books.
	You can spend all your life reading Kabbalah books.
	You'll never be done with it.
	But the point is not to read them.
	The point is to use them a certain way as a ladder.
	There's a methodology to that as well.
	We can get to it later if you want.
	Jacob's ladder, Merkaba mysticism.
	All that stuff.
	It all relates to exactly that process of climbing.
	How do I climb out of my animal when my automatic Ezekiel's vision, too, right?
	It relates to Ezekiel's vision.
	So each, Adam, each of these things you're opening up is another two hours.
	So we're trying, yeah, just we're giving the zip the zip file here so that the next time we do this, we can go into where we want to.
	So we're saying that what we're learning is the force of the creator is just 100% love-giving, animates everything.
	All the stars, every heartbeat, everything, the force of life, let's call that the creator.
	It's 100% to bestow, to give.
	On the other side of that is all of reality, which is a desire to receive, as Leo said, and on those degrees of inanimate, vegetative, animate, and then human.
	When the Torah talks about, we talked about earlier, for example, Esau and Israel.
	It's both talking about people who are engaged in this.
	Esau from the word like Asaf, like I did, meaning like he's done.
	He feels whole in what he's doing, right?
	He does another mitzvah, he feels great about himself.
	He does something else, he studies another page, he feels great, he's connected, he feels great.
	But when you study from the books of Torah and you have this part in you that's developed that we're talking about this point of Adam inside of you towards what you put on your chart as Jewish soul, which we're saying, that wasn't my chart, by the way.
	I got that from a documentary made by a Jewish guy.
	It's called The Chosen People.
	That's where I got that.
	He was probably confused too.
	So from inside of any person, when this desire develops, what happens when you study the Torah with this intention with the right books and with the right environment?
	The light in that Torah shows you how far you are from the Creator.
	Meaning, like the Lord is high and the low will see, because that's the actual state that we're in.
	We're actually very, very far from the Creator.
	Whereas low, I mean, you've seen pictures from space, right?
	What is where our planet in our galaxy is like off to the side somewhere?
	It's not even like in the middle of our galaxy.
	Our galaxy is one of billions of galaxies where we're like microscopically small in compared to all of reality.
	So we have the ability to perceive everything.
	Actually, that's what Leo's talking about.
	These Kabbalists are in attainment.
	There's something beyond time and space.
	But the point is to understand what is the Creator.
	What is God?
	Where is that?
	So what happens when you study is you actually start to understand who you are and where you are.
	But really, also from that, the Lord is high and the low will see.
	From that place, you can start to comprehend, start to feel, start to build a structure in yourself of what is that creator.
	And I hope you get the feeling from talking to us so far.
	We're not saying we're not pointing out how you shouldn't say that or you're not doing this.
	Our perception of this whole problem is coming from a totally different angle.
	Right.
	So, you know, on the question, is Zohar esoteric mysticism and decoding the secrets of the Torah?
	You guys say you believe in evolution, you believe in the Big Bang.
	So you don't take Genesis, the accounts of creation and Genesis literally.
	You think it's allegorical symbolism, right?
	Yes, it points to inner forces that are working in you.
	Now you're getting to perception.
	So how do you know that, though?
	Is it from the Zohar that you understand what the Torah actually means?
	And then the other part of the question is, how much of the Torah do you guys take literally?
	And how do you decide what's historical or what's meant to be metaphorical?
	None of it.
	None of it.
	None of the Torah is historical.
	No, no.
	There's a quote that says, none of the Torah, nothing in the Torah speaks about anything that has to do with the corporeal world.
	I can find all the quotes if you want later on.
	Isn't there four levels in Kabbalah?
	There's four levels of the Torah, like the literal, the figurative, and then the deepest secrets.
	The Saad is the Kabbalah, right?
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	So like Seth said, everything is like a door.
	So choose a door.
	We can talk about the four phases, or we can talk about perception of reality.
	Each one is like a little, you know, it's going to be a little exploring.
	Some of those deep rabbit holes or rabbi holes, as I like to say, when we discuss these issues.
	Put it intended.
	What is the goal of Kabbalah is to unify the Jews and then to kind of be the light into the nations and teach the Gentiles how to also unite and how everybody who's saying this?
	Where are you reading this from?
	I'm kind of trying to paraphrase you guys.
	Right.
	Did we say that?
	I mean, you talk a lot about unity.
	Correct.
	So, okay, so let's, so let's let's let's bring that home.
	I think, I think this is important because I see that the time is flying.
	We're having so much fun.
	And I think this is an important thing to get across, if nothing else.
	So I'm going back to the beginning.
	That first state where it all started.
	It's called the thought of creation.
	So again, this stuff will sound a little religious or a little kind of mystical, but try to listen with fresh eyes as much as possible, okay?
	Try to relate just to the concepts, don't put faces on it and things on it, just the concept.
	So, you have the first state, right?
	It's the thought of creation, Kabbalists call it, right?
	You have a force of love and bestow, which they call the creator, creator, by the way, from the word boe, boe, come and see, do something, attain something, and you will see it.
	Okay, that's the sort of the inner meaning of the word creator.
	But well, you know, put it aside.
	So, you have this creator, right?
	This force of love and bestow who wants to give, but he has no one to give to.
	It fills everything, all of reality.
	This is even before space and time.
	There's not even a space and time in which to put a creature that can receive, right?
	There's nothing.
	He creates this point, if you will, that is totally opposite.
	If he's all love and giving, this point is all receiving, right?
	Because you want to give to someone, yeah, exactly.
	So, I'll create something that can take, right?
	That's the desire to receive.
	That's the only act of creation in all of when you talk about creation.
	That's what was created.
	Why?
	Because it didn't exist before.
	Everything else existed.
	If the creator wants, if you want to give all of the good, then there has to be someone who will receive all that good.
	Right.
	So, the thought of creation was enough to cascade this whole thing into motion.
	Exactly.
	So, so, so that's what was created.
	In a way, it's like if you imagine it's like a womb and in it, a beginning of a human embryo, right?
	If you will, so everything already exists there.
	There's a whole process there.
	We're not going to get into it, but that state is the first state.
	Essentially, you could be done there.
	But the problem is that creature, a future creature that can receive from the creator, is only there in potential.
	So, he's united with the creator.
	He feels the creator, but there's no he to feel.
	There's no, like, you don't say, oh, there's a, you know, there's a, you have a, you know, an embryo in a woman's, you know, womb.
	And I'm not talking about abortion laws.
	I'm just talking, you know, even biologically, medically, that first instant, there's just a beginning of something.
	There's nothing really there.
	It's a potential, right?
	That's the, you know, that's the thought of creation.
	We were one.
	Through a certain process, we're not going to get into this creature develops, grows, and eventually that desire to receive pleasure shatters.
	Okay, that's the concept of shattering of falling.
	You have it in different religions, right?
	The falling from grace, all of that.
	Is this all related?
	Are you referring to shattering of the vessels?
	Correct.
	So vessel is the vessel, right?
	What can receive?
	That's the vessel.
	Everything is, you know, every desire is a vessel.
	You have corrected desires, uncorrected, but it's all a vessel.
	That vessel was able to receive only so much.
	It was not able to receive more.
	But the creator wants to give you infinite love.
	And you can only receive, you know, a tiny bit of love.
	So the creator plans it in such a way that this vessel will shatter.
	Hold on, let's speak one second again.
	So Adam, here's the same thing.
	If we talk about Jesus and we ask a Southern Baptist and we talk about Jesus and we ask a Catholic and we talk about Jesus and we ask a Russian Orthodox, you're going to have a different Jesus.
	So when we talk about terms, it's good to use these kind of things, these other sources to get a general concept, but they're not exactly the same definition.
	You know, we would have to look.
	I don't know what Chabad is publishing about what they're calling shattering the vessels, for example.
	So just to keep that in mind.
	Okay.
	So that's a good point, by the way.
	Anyone who's listening and wants to kind of learn this, I would recommend learning, you know, take a thread and follow all the way through.
	Going sideways is very difficult.
	You're not going to get anywhere.
	It's like you can't climb a mountain by going up and then, you know, down and then up another path and then down.
	You have to go all the way up.
	Just choose a path and go up.
	But the point is, that process of shattering, you know, what was shattered in simple terms was our perception of our unity, our feeling of being one with the Creator, right?
	That one system, which incidentally is called Adam as well, right?
	That's the true Adam that was created when we talk about that.
	That's what was created.
	A system.
	It's a system, a vessel called Adam, right?
	Because it's similar to the creator.
	Adam Camel, right?
	That's the primordial prototype.
	That was the prototype for the place where the human will exist.
	The human, not us, humans, but the system called Adam will exist.
	That system was shattered and fell, fell, okay, fell, didn't fall from anywhere.
	There's no gravity to fall into.
	It fell from the feeling of unity with the creator, from oneness with the creator, to a feeling of separation, alienation.
	Each part suddenly felt itself as separate.
	It's like that Buddhist allegory, right, about the islands, right?
	That's separated by, you take down the ocean and you see they're all connected.
	Kind of like that, right?
	It's a separation in perception.
	But you can't just overcome it by saying, hey, we're connected.
	No, I don't feel it.
	You're there.
	I'm here.
	You have your thoughts and opinions and ideas.
	I have my own.
	We're not related.
	That's the feeling that humans have been existing with for millennia, okay?
	And we have to go back consciously, willingly, to that state where we're one again, but through our certain effort, if you will.
	That's the goal of creation, okay?
	To go from unity, unconscious unity to conscious unity.
	That's really all that it is.
	And in order to do it, the creator, nature, you can, by the way, say creator and nature, you can interchange it.
	Elohim, creator and nature, Hateva, is the same Gematria value, right?
	The same numeric value.
	It's just a little analogy there.
	So you can say nature, the system made it such a way that first it starts with a small group, and then that small group kind of is shown the way to use human language.
	And then it has to show the will to everyone else.
	It's how a caterpillar becomes a butterfly, right?
	Some cells start the process and the rest join in.
	It's how everything goes.
	It happens in nature.
	Nothing happens at once, as said in the beginning, right?
	So that's really what it's about.
	If you strip down all the emotional stuff and everything.
	However, we're in the middle of the transition, right?
	Jews forgot about Jews fell from that little memory that they had of unity because they couldn't remain united.
	They had to be broken, just like the spiritual process.
	They had to be broken here, spread among the nations, and then wake up as humanity is waking up.
	Wake up to that role.
	Bring humanity back together.
	It's kind of simple in a way.
	It's almost like childish if you think about it.
	Bring humanity back together in unity.
	What do you guys see?
	We're in the year 5784, right?
	There's only supposed to be six days of creation, and then the seventh day, the Sabbath, is the messianic age.
	So we have another 200 years in the 6,000-year time period, right?
	What do you see the future of the world looking like?
	Is it rebuilt temple, one world Noahide religion, Esau and Ishmael, a Gag and Magog war?
	What do you see happening?
	What's your vision for prophecy unfolding, according to Kabbalah?
	The world to come.
	Tell us, what is the world to come going to look like?
	What does the Zohar say of the world to come?
	Well, there's free choice, Adam.
	That's where things get interesting.
	Meaning, we have to get to the goal of creation, right?
	We have to unite.
	And you can do it kind of, you know, willingly, learn about it, start to move in that direction, start to feel nature helping you and all of that.
	Or we can kind of do it kicking and screaming.
	But it'll happen.
	Meaning, we can go.
	Baal Suam writes about Third World War, Fourth World War if we don't get our act together.
	And by the way, we're not that far away from number three, if I'm not mistaken.
	This can happen, right?
	Or you can have that war inside of you.
	You wage war on your will to receive on your egoistic desire.
	You figure out how to band with other people and unite against that operating system that's in you, change the intention.
	That's what the method that we're learning and we are trying to sort of disseminate, if you will.
	You can have that war.
	Let's see, the secret doctrine of what do you guys think of the Gaona Vilna?
	I've heard that he said that there would be three Gag and Magog wars.
	Well, here's the thing.
	He rose against as Baal Shemtov went, you know, to say, let's open it up.
	He was like, no, not ready.
	So we're not really studying him.
	I'm not an expert on the Gaon Vilna.
	He was a great Kabbalist, also.
	He was kind of opposed to Chabad Lubovich as well.
	Yeah, all the Hasidic, all the Hasidic movement that Baal Shemtov started, he was the Mitnagdim, the ones who go against, which is a natural thing.
	Everything has, again, an opposite, right?
	Equal and opposite reaction.
	Totally natural.
	But it just means that one has to oppose the other, so it grows.
	It's a process of growth.
	But I just, I think that we don't need to go to Gogon Magog on the outside, Adam.
	I don't think so.
	So what do you think about Noahide laws?
	Do you guys believe that the world is moving towards Noahide laws for the nations?
	It's more of a Talmudic thing than a Chabad Lubavitch thing.
	That's why I'm asking.
	I hope the world is moving towards love your friend as you love yourself.
	That's really the general rule of the.
	I'm sure you guys know all about this, the controversy about the legitimacy of the Zohar.
	You guys obviously believe that it was handed down from Simeon ben-Yochai from the cave.
	But skeptics and a lot of doubters say that it was a forgery made by what's his name?
	Moshe DeLeon.
	Moses de Leon, yes, in the 13th century.
	why is it that you guys believe that it's authentic that it really goes back thousands of years You know, the easy answer is Baal Sulam, who wrote the commentary on the book of Zor, he writes in the introduction to the book.
	One of the introductions he's got several introductions, but he writes clearly, he says, when I first started to read through this book and felt what was going on, again, Kabbalists, they feel things, right?
	Because we are feeling creatures, all of us, right?
	Spiritual attainment is a feeling that you attain.
	It's not like I'm going to fly with this body.
	No, it's a conscious expansion.
	So he opens the book and he says, this guy was great.
	I have no problem giving it to Moses de Leon if he was on that level.
	But I can feel that he wasn't on that level.
	I can feel it.
	It had to be written by someone like Rabbi Shimon, who I feel is in that level.
	And this is where you get into perception of reality, because this is where the whole thing gets trippy and woo and hard to grasp.
	All that history we described, all that evolution, all of those things, they're all happening inside one person, if you will.
	Inside of you.
	We're all happening inside of you.
	This whole reality is only happening for you in a way, okay?
	It's an internal process, all of it.
	So all the people are simply forces inside of you that you can attain.
	You can find out what Moses said, Abraham said, when you reach their level.
	When you reach that, they represent a level of attainment.
	That's all.
	Not real people, but degrees of attainment in the system.
	You see, that's where it gets a little trippy.
	It's like, wait, so there's no history, there's no archaeology, there's no dinosaurs and all that.
	Yes, there is inside of your perception, only inside of your perception.
	It's weird, huh?
	It is.
	It's not that.
	It's a little abstract.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, Seth.
	Okay, so we discussed that the force of the creator, we're calling that 100% bestowal, giving.
	All of creation, on the other hand, is just to receive.
	And we said again on those different degrees, inanimate, vegetative, animate, and speaking.
	So on the one hand, is all plus, the creator, the force of life.
	The other hand is on the other side is all reception.
	So Adam, our perception of reality is totally based on the degree of our desire to receive, the degree of our desire.
	For example, take a dog.
	The dog perceives the world through his nose.
	He builds the whole world through his nose.
	Take a dog to a rock concert.
	Okay.
	He's not going to have the same emotional experience as you because when you go to the rock concert, you see the people around you, they're wearing these kind of clothes that the people in your group wear.
	And you know, like about the addiction of the guitar player that he went through.
	And you remember when you first learned how to play, you know, this song, for example.
	And there's all of these things that are happening based on your perception that builds this experience.
	So you're at the concert and your dog's at the concert, exact same concert, but it's two totally different worlds.
	And not only that, you take your wife to the concert, right?
	Or imagine you're married to someone from another country and she doesn't understand any of the cultural references of a Metallica concert, for example, right?
	She's from, I don't know where, some other place.
	She doesn't have Metallica.
	She never knew about Metallica, but you love it.
	You bring her to the concert, for example.
	She can't experience, even though you're in the same room listening to exactly the same song, she's having a totally different experience of what's going on.
	Because you remember where you were in ninth grade when you heard that song the first time.
	You remember when you were drinking in the woods in 11th grade when you heard, you know, listening to that one.
	You remember driving in the car after that, you know, all that, whatever happened.
	You have a whole world inside of you based on your desires.
	So what happens is what we're talking about is that as we start to understand who we are, the Lord is high and the low will see.
	As we understand that we are perceiving the entire world through our perception to receive only for ourselves, even when we do good for another, We're doing it only to benefit for our own honor or in order to gain something for ourselves.
	But if we can start to work together, at first we start working in a small group of others who are on this process with us within the Kabbalistic group.
	And then, of course, there's more and more circles and more and more circles.
	When we start to try to love the other as ourselves on top of our ego, what happens is it's not something that's called mystical.
	And this goes back to how did Baala Salam, for example, how does he write about what happened at the formation of the earth?
	These are not Kabbalistic, so-called Kabbalistic secret practices.
	A person can expand his inner vision, the world that we perceive, just like you, your girlfriend, or your wife at the concert and you at the concert.
	Because your emotional experience around what's going on is more, you're perceiving more.
	Or you at the concert and your dog at the concert.
	It's the same concert.
	So Kabbalist, by changing his perception through working constantly to try and love above his ego, all of a sudden he starts to feel not only what's directed inside, which is a tiny, tiny point, but he starts to feel this expansive reality, this eternal reality outside of himself.
	There's so much more.
	For example, in this room, how many radio waves are in this room?
	If I had a device, I could tune it to 15 radio stations right now.
	This room is full of waves, right?
	Microwaves, Wi-Fi waves, radio waves, but we don't perceive them in this sense.
	So we're also in a field of white light right now.
	And our whole work, and I hope we get the chance to talk again, is how by this process of loving the other as yourself.
	And you can't just go and try and do that with anybody.
	We start in a very small group, like a 10.
	You know, you might have heard of like, you know, 10 people together.
	That's what's that called?
	What's the word for 10 Jews?
	Oh, you may call it minion.
	Minion.
	Minion or something like that, right?
	So we do it in a certain way, you know, we work together in a certain way.
	But the process of above your ego to love another, you begin to perceive a reality that's just like the dog does, or your wife doesn't perceive what's happening on stage in the same way as you do because of all your experiences that you had.
	In the same way, your inner experience becomes so rich and so expanded, you perceive more of what's going on.
	We call it acquiring a vessel, right?
	That's really what we're talking about.
	And then you're not looking, you're not looking at everything as strictly something.
	You're not looking at only a material world and trying to understand the war between Esau and Israel or the war.
	Where's Ishmael and these the Arabs and the Jews?
	Of course, you still have to live.
	It's another thing.
	It's another degree.
	Just like your organs keep doing their, your stomach keeps digesting and your lungs keep breathing, even though you may be thinking about something much higher.
	So in the same way, we still live here, but the way we start to perceive the world is at another level completely.
	This is where we go ahead.
	I got a super chat, and this is what I was going to ask too.
	The tradition is that Kabbalah is only for initiated, well-learned Jews.
	Do you guys think that Gentiles should study Kabbalah?
	And then here's the question.
	Hold on, hold on.
	And anybody who has this point developing in them of why am I alive?
	What is the purpose of my life?
	What happens after any of these questions that are more than just the animal desires inside of us of how do I fill myself?
	That person is ready to study the wisdom of Kabbalah.
	And here's a question from Subversion Diversion.
	What are your thoughts on people studying Kabbalah to learn various types of spells, such as Sephir, Yet Sira, to replicate divine creation?
	Yeah, anybody can do it.
	The goal of it.
	Anybody can do whatever they want to do.
	Everybody should just do whatever their heart desires.
	We're interested in those who want to bring love and unity and good connection between all people.
	That's our method.
	If someone wants to do anything else, we're not here to tell anyone else what to do.
	This is what Christians believe, though.
	Christians believe that Kabbalah is somewhere.
	We understand.
	Everybody.
	We believe it's like black magic.
	It's spells.
	It's witchcraft.
	And that's why they're kind of scared to look into it, which I think they should because they should understand.
	So they should look at.
	Okay, so first of all, we're very happy to be connected to you.
	I mean, I don't really, we don't really, I don't really know you that well, but I'm glad that we're able to have this conversation.
	And hopefully people will be able to hear about this.
	Leo, where are we teaching the fundamentals?
	KabuConnect.com?
	That's probably the best starting point for now.
	There's maybe other places, but Kabu, if you go to KabuConnect.com, you can look at it.
	K-A-B-UConnect.com.
	So this is where we just have some fundamental classes for people who are interested in the kind of things we're talking about.
	I think it's all free.
	The first four courses or something is all kind of video on demand.
	And on YouTube, there's tons of stuff you can find that's all available as well.
	So we're not selling anything here, but the same way that a Greek Orthodox and a Catholic and a Southern Baptist all have their own version of what Jesus is.
	There's a thousand versions of what people call Kabbalah.
	This is our lineage.
	There's a little graphic here.
	I got a question for you, Leo.
	Leo has his video about the hubs and the nodes of the Jews and the Gentiles.
	Do you worry at all making a video like that that it comes off as a little arrogant that you consider yourselves the hubs and then somebody else the nodes?
	Because the hubs have kind of a more important role.
	So first of all, everybody has an equal role in the sense that it's one network.
	Now, if you go one step below, all this is happening inside each person.
	Okay, again, this external reality gets very confusing because we identify and associate ourselves with this just my physical being.
	This is who I am.
	That's what I am in the world.
	You have no other memories, no other recollections, nothing, no other perceptions.
	Okay, no vessels.
	Now, within that system, there are nodes and hubs, just like in the body.
	You have different organs doing different things.
	I don't think one is more important than the other.
	I think right now, where we are, that point in time, the hubs have to play a very specific role.
	They have to do a very specific action, which is necessary for the development, for the leap into the kind of next degree of the network.
	And the hubs and nodes always were kind of working in tandem, right?
	For a while, there's a certain expansion of the network.
	More nodes are joining.
	More connections are made.
	Kind of like how your brain works, right?
	More synapses connecting, and then suddenly an area in the brain becomes responsible for something.
	You need that area to function.
	If that area gets cut off or something, another area will have to assume its place.
	So that is the Jew Function then.
	You just use the word function.
	That's the Jew function to be the hubs to connect things.
	Don't you see how that comes off as a little arrogance from non-Jews that see that and they go, oh, well, it looks like you think that you guys have a special role.
	So you consider yourself chosen for a special thing.
	Listen, I understand the problematic nature of those words.
	There's no question.
	And in fact, if you go deeper into the text and all that, and I know you are, there's a lot of stuff that sounds wacky, not only between Jews and Gentiles, but even within Jews themselves.
	There's some weird sounding stuff.
	As long as you look at things externally with the same kind of references that we have of power structure and control and again, the will to receive.
	What's in it for me?
	As long as you look at things through that lens, there's always going to be someone better than you.
	Why are you going so far as Jews?
	Look at your boss.
	Look at your boss's boss.
	Look at the guy who owns the company.
	Look at the guys with more stuff across the street, right?
	There's always someone one-upping you.
	It doesn't matter how good you are at something.
	It's going to be someone else who else who's right.
	So let's also say that every day we're studying at this point.
	Also, there's what's appropriate in each generation.
	This is called the last generation.
	That's the time period that we're in.
	That's how Baala Salaam calls it.
	The last generation of the material development and the first generation really of the spiritual development.
	We study every day with our teacher, who is an authentic Kabbalist who sat at the feet of his teacher, who was the student and the primary disciple of Baala Sulaam.
	So massive, massive people.
	Baala Sulaam was the same soul as the Ari, the same soul as Rabbi Shimon, the same soul as Moses.
	So today, every single day, 365 days a year, we sit and we study with people from every religion, every religion.
	We don't have any limitations on where a person comes from.
	You can keep your culture.
	You can keep your background.
	And this is the essence of what was going on with Abraham.
	From all of the 70 nations, he gathered people who had this inner desire.
	So there's no limitation about what nation a person comes from, man, woman, anything like that.
	If a person has this desire inside of them, that means that's called the desire of Israel has awakened inside of them.
	That's how.
	Now, we're not talking about Chabad Labavitch.
	We're not talking about some yeshiva rabbi who said something in the Talmud about Gentiles being animals.
	We're not talking about any of that.
	We have our own way of understanding the texts that we receive from our teachers in an unbroken chain.
	And where that is, where we're coming from is that any person who this desire inside of them awakens, that person is considered Yehudi, Yisrael, and we're together.
	We're in that together.
	And that's really the, Seth kind of took the words out of my mouth.
	But that's really the nice thing about this human consciousness.
	When you wake someone and you say, are you asleep?
	And he says, no, I'm not asleep.
	He's right.
	He's not asleep.
	As long as he's, you know, as he stays awake.
	If you have these questions, if anyone is asking, wait, why can't I do it?
	You can.
	If you have these questions, if you have these desires, join this general awakening of humanity.
	Just understand awakening to what?
	And towards what are we going?
	We're going back towards unity.
	Understand the laws of nature, not the laws of Jews and Gentiles.
	Just the system of nature.
	We started like this.
	We're united, but unconscious.
	We broke down in our perception.
	That's our existence today.
	Egoism, take, take, take at the expense of everyone and everything.
	You know, I ban with those who serve my interests until they stop and then I go against them.
	That's human existence.
	And we're moving consciously back to a state of unity.
	If you have questions on that, you are probably part of this awakening force, this commando that's to awaken the rest of the people.
	That's really what it is.
	So there's no problem.
	And it's a service to humanity.
	It doesn't give me special status.
	I don't make more money for having this desire.
	I don't get more benefits and social security.
	Nothing.
	I wish I would get something from the great Jewish fund in the sky.
	Yeah, the Kabal, exactly.
	I wish the Kabbal would send something because they haven't been sending anything for a while.
	They've been sending their monthly checks.
	Yes, exactly.
	So I've only got a few more minutes with you guys on today's stream.
	So I've got some quotes from the Zohar here that I find that I take issue with.
	I find are problematic.
	So I was wondering if you guys could help explain some of these to me.
	So here's the first one.
	It says, the reverse is true for the heathen nations or the Goyam.
	They are unclean while they live because their souls are drawn from the side of defilement.
	That our souls emanate from the evil other side, the citra art atra, the darkness.
	Okay, very simple.
	First of all, the starting point is the creator says, I've created the evil inclination.
	Okay, the creator only created evil.
	What is evil?
	Receive in order to receive, right?
	It's not a moral thing.
	You can be a bank robber.
	It can be a mercenary.
	Nobody cares.
	Okay.
	Make it very, very clear.
	None of the actions in this world matter in that sense.
	Only the intention.
	Are you doing it to receive in order to receive?
	That makes you opposite.
	A guy with a yarmulke and a prayer book in his hand and side curls could be called from the heathen nation.
	This is talking about the inner desire of a person.
	Well, what they're talking about is Esau also, because in Esau is the descendant, the Edom, the Romans, the Gentiles are descendants of Esau, and the Jews are descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
	We're going, again, we have to deal with perception of reality.
	We have to slow everything down and see when a Kabbalist is writing, he's writing from his spiritual place.
	He's not talking about protein bodies.
	Yeah, they're not saying that we're actually dirty, like covered in dirt.
	They're saying our souls are dirty.
	Here's another one.
	Nobody has a soul yet.
	Nobody has a soul.
	We don't have a soul.
	We are trying to connect.
	What is a soul?
	You see, it's a matter of definition.
	A soul is a corrected vessel, a desire to receive that has acquired a screen.
	We didn't even go into the structure of the vessels and the lights and all that.
	But a desire to receive with a screen that allows it to receive in order to bestow, that's a soul.
	Nobody has a soul.
	Listen, it's getting late.
	Give us your worst one.
	Let's see what we can do with it.
	Here's another one that's similar.
	Zohar.
	Swing as hard as you can.
	Let's see what we can do.
	It says the children of Israel are his holy children alone, children to Hashem.
	Only Israel are holy as it is written, for you are a holy people, you and no other people are holy.
	Correct.
	Israel means, make this, I wish you could write on the screen, Adam.
	Israel is Yeshar El.
	It's two words.
	It means straight to the Creator.
	If you have that desire, that's the desire the Creator wants.
	I thought Israel means one who wrestles with God because Jacob wrestled with Jacob's with Esau's oversoul.
	Right.
	No, it's, you see, again, all these confusing stories.
	It could mean that if you wanted to mean, it could also mean liosh, meaning the head in the body of right of Adam that we're building.
	Either way, however you call it, that's the inner direction that we're following.
	Again, because we're following in the footsteps of Kabbalists.
	There are a lot of interpretations.
	We want to find the ones who only take us straight to the creator.
	I want to go to the creator.
	I don't care about all the other stuff.
	Nobody is.
	Let's just understand, first of all, because it's a very distorted perception.
	Nobody is superfluous.
	Nobody's bad.
	Nobody is out.
	The whole thing is in each person to develop that point to any person who is hating another, whether he's wearing a kippah and holding a, you know, has side curls, it's called nations of the world.
	Any person from Southeast Asia who never heard of the Torah before, who you would need to know some of the method, but who's whose desire is directed towards love of the other, that's called the Israel and him awakening.
	That's how we're looking at all of these texts.
	Okay.
	That's how we are looking at these texts.
	That's how you guys are.
	So when I look at it.
	We're not the spokesman.
	Hold on.
	We're not the spokesman for every single Jew in the world.
	We're not the spokesman for anybody else.
	We're telling you what we, students of a true Kabbalist, what we've been studying for all these years.
	So, like Safaria says in Kabbalah Online, Chabad's website, they all associate Edom and Esau with the Gentiles and the Western world with Christianity.
	You should have the, you know, bring those guys on and interview those guys.
	They won't talk to me.
	They won't talk to me.
	And then I see all these connections.
	I see rabbis all over YouTube saying Esau is Christianity, the West, Europe, America, all generations.
	There's a lot more to talk about.
	We have a lot more to talk about.
	And then I see a verse like this in the Talmud that says that Jewish people are entitled to three matters to eradicate the descendants of Esau.
	Like descendants doesn't sound like eradicate means, hold on, it says eradicate means to stop using.
	You see, it's all a matter of understanding how Kabbalists wrote those things.
	They wrote it like that on purpose.
	They knew how people will read it.
	There is a reason why it was written in this antagonizing way.
	By the way, because if you came to our lessons, Adam, everybody's asking all your questions and many more.
	And one of the repeating questions was like, wait a second, if this is so simple, it's all about love.
	Why did Kabbalists write it in this way?
	Well, there's a reason because we need the opposing force.
	How do you take a piece of mud and develop it to the level of the creator?
	It's a many-stage process.
	And even before mud.
	Here's another one I found that it was a little disturbing in the Zohar because I'm under the impression Esau means Gentiles, means the Western world.
	And then the Zohar says, Jacob received above, only Esau received below.
	King Messiah will arise.
	Jacob will receive above and below.
	And Esau will lose everything.
	He will have no portion or inheritance or remembrance in the world to come.
	This is the meaning of the verse: House of Jacob shall be fire, Joseph flame, and Esau stubble, for Esau will lose everything, and Jacob will inherit both worlds, this world and the world to come.
	So my exegesis, that sounds like they want to destroy the Western world, blot out Amalek, and then only have Esau, Noahides that are Esau, the elder shall serve the younger, and that's what the end times plan is.
	Again, if we only had an external existence reality, I would say, and this was a description of it.
	I would say you're right.
	It's not.
	Amalek is an acronym for Al-Menatla Kabel in order to receive.
	That's all it refers to.
	It's about destroying that will to receive will stop to exist.
	That perception of reality we have now.
	When we have corrected it, it will cease to exist.
	It doesn't even develop.
	Again, this is going kind of far into the spiritual future, but we're not even talking about just living better lives here.
	We're talking about acquiring a totally higher perception.
	Think of the distance between the animate level, the inanimate level, and the vegetative level, right?
	And between vegetative and animal, and between animal and human.
	Those are the kind of leaps we're talking about, Adam.
	Not about some dominant, you know, controlling resources on planet Earth.
	That hasn't been proven to do anything to anyone.
	Look at thousands of years of human evolution.
	What's that look like if we elevate our consciousness to the Kabbalah end goal?
	What will that look like?
	What would I look like if I was a truly awakened Kabbalist?
	You would look like you look now.
	We don't know what the world is going to be when it happens.
	It's never happened before.
	We understand the process we're going through.
	Spirituality, the physical world will dissolve, but not in some kind of scary way, in a way that we, this world is actually called an imaginary world.
	The physical corporeal world is built in our perception because of the way that we, like a dog, builds the whole world from his nose and a bat builds the whole world from his sonar.
	We built this whole perception of our reality from our egos.
	When that turns to love, we will perceive a different reality.
	That's not something that nobody knows what it will look like, what it will be when we'll be there.
	Are we going to be walking around in loincloths, you know, eating fruits off of the, and then we're going to see a lion over there lying down with the lamb.
	So what's the lion going to eat?
	You know, what's the lamb?
	What about the grass?
	That's not for us to talk about what it's going to actually look like because we don't know.
	We're going to make that together.
	That's what we're hoping.
	We'll see how it we don't.
	We don't understand the power that exists in, you know, people are talking about how great it is that the mushrooms, the mycelium, all of the network of the mycelium and the network of the roots of the trees and the language of the whales.
	Could you imagine if mycelium, if mushrooms, the network between what could go on with our hearts and minds, if we could all be in an inter integral loving system between all of us, what could come out of humanity?
	What kind of good, what kind of undo?
	There's so much money.
	There's so much resources.
	There's so much water.
	There's so much air.
	There's endless amounts of everything we need.
	The only problem is our egos that we need to rise above.
	And a small group will do it at first.
	It sounds a little bit kind of like transhumanism.
	And I've seen the term a couple times in the chat.
	Like we're connecting our brains to other people's brains and we're all in a network together.
	How does fashion spread?
	You know, a couple people wear it and then a couple other people wear it and then it becomes a fashion.
	Do it.
	Yeah.
	Or forget about Instagram.
	I'm just saying, how did music spread?
	How does anything spread?
	Like a Virus.
	It's how it works.
	Forget about COVID.
	I'm just saying, in general, anything spreads because one person's wearing a cool shirt or his hair a certain way, and then other people see it, and then they want it.
	And that's how this is how the network works.
	This is a changed perception, which is why it's very hard to describe it because you don't have the vessels to do it.
	You can't describe to a blind person what is the color blue.
	You can't describe to someone who's never taken drugs, you know, or what it's like to smoke weed or drop acid or take mushrooms.
	They have to do it.
	You can describe what sex is like.
	There's certain things that you cannot describe before you have the vessels for it.
	Okay.
	We're talking about acquiring new vessels.
	You don't have them.
	You don't know what.
	Have you guys acquired new vessels yet?
	We acquired some of it, but it doesn't matter because you won't be able to, even if you don't acquire everything.
	Do you hope to one day before you guys pass away?
	Do you think it'll happen?
	Absolutely.
	Kabbalah is about attaining it all right now when you're alive.
	There's no afterworld.
	This is the lowest point that said in the beginning.
	There's no going to hell.
	This is hell.
	You can't go any lower than that.
	You can do it.
	Everybody can do it.
	I want to read you.
	I want to end with this small quote from Baal Sula, if you don't mind.
	Sure.
	Well, I have one more thing I wanted to bring up.
	We'll go another five minutes.
	It can end at an hour and a half, but go ahead.
	You can read your quote.
	Okay, so it says, it is upon the Israeli nation to qualify itself and all the people of the world to develop until they take upon themselves the sublime work of love of others, which is the latter to the purpose of creation.
	Can you explain to us what that means to you?
	The purpose of creation.
	To me, it means that I can finally have a sensation that is much greater than me than the boundaries of my protein body and my limited sort of unidirectional perception.
	I perceive everything just like that.
	And to me, it spells the reversal of that, the expansion of that to include everything, to really incorporate all these other desires and all these other things and to begin to experience something that's on a level above this very.
	It sounds very new agey.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	It sounds very new agey.
	New Age movement was influenced by Kabbalah, wasn't it?
	Everything was influenced by Kabbalah.
	Everything.
	Kabbalah influenced Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the Eastern traditions.
	Abraham gave gifts to his concubines in the East.
	You remember that line from the Bible?
	That refers to that.
	Everything was influenced by Kabbalah.
	All the Greek philosophers took their ideas from Kabbalists.
	They didn't have a name for it.
	They called it philosophy.
	Reutlin writes about it.
	You can look it up.
	Everything comes from Kabbalah because, again, it's not a religion or a man-made thing.
	It's simply a framework of the laws of nature.
	So, you know, it's not a matter of belief.
	It's a matter of feeling it.
	You can feel it.
	I watched your video, Leo, on Kabbalah Info.
	Was Jesus a Kabbalist?
	It's a little bit over an hour long.
	Could you just tell us, do you think Jesus was a historical figure and was he a Kabbalist?
	So in the usual perception of the world, the way that we relate to space and time and history, I think that there's a good chance there was a figure like that called Jesus.
	And it makes a lot of sense that he grew up and developed in the Jewish circles of the time.
	And it's probably, according, if you read a little bit of history and what he's teaching, there's a good chance that he was probably studying those same concepts.
	He does talk about love.
	The only problem is there's no methodology left to actually do it.
	And that's the one thing that we try to say is, do you have a method?
	Do you have a teacher?
	Do you have a method or books?
	Do you have a group in which to do it?
	If you have those three things, go study wherever you want.
	As Seth said, a person studies where his heart desires.
	So if you want to...
	So if you want to, you know, if you want to do that, then fine, you know, do it.
	But I'm looking for a method and a teacher and a group.
	And that's what we found in Kabbalah.
	So I heard you guys say that your teacher, your Kabbalah teacher, is the reincarnation of Isaac Luria, Lurianic Kabbalah, right?
	I've seen rabbis say that Isaac Luria said that he's an expert in reincarnation, one of the top experts.
	He says that Jesus is the rein, Yeshua is the reincarnation of Esau.
	Do you guys agree with that?
	Yeah, no expertise.
	Like I said, to what end does it serve my purpose?
	I don't know.
	Honestly, Adam.
	I have no clue.
	I have no idea.
	All I know is, does it help me attain my goal in life?
	Very simple.
	What do you think?
	Is my mic working?
	It's really quiet.
	Yeah.
	I have absolutely zero expertise in.
	Well, you can't hear you.
	It's still real quiet.
	Oh, no.
	Do you switch mics?
	This one now?
	Yeah.
	No.
	It's probably the webcam mic, if you have one.
	It sounds just very, very distant.
	Is that better?
	Yeah, that's better.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	I've zero expertise in the reincarnation of Jesus.
	What we said was that Baala Sulam writes that he's the incarnation of the Ari.
	That's our teachers, teachers, teachers.
	What about the Kabbalistic book?
	Let's ask.
	We're doing like a blitz round now.
	I didn't realize we were going to go this far.
	I mean, this long on time, maybe we can schedule another time.
	I didn't know how much we're doing now.
	But I did get a message from someone here saying that unfortunately I can't see your stream, but I heard that there's a lot of love over there in the chat.
	Have you not seen it the whole time?
	No, I haven't.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I could have probably, you should have told me.
	I could have changed it.
	It's okay.
	But I saw one really funny comment.
	They said, instead of Jew function, it should be called Jew fiction.
	Have you heard that one before?
	No, I haven't.
	Cobu Connect is, they say it's 14 days free, not open free.
	So anyway.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Adam.
	All right.
	Thanks, you guys, for coming on.
	I enjoyed the discussion.
	And if anybody wants to see more, your channels on YouTube, you want to shout those out?
	It's all the Jew function, basically.
	It's the Jew function on YouTube, Jew function on Instagram, on Facebook, on Twitter.
	It's very convenient.
	You can, you know, if you go to the website, jewfunction.com, you can find the whole hubs and notes video and that little learning experience.
	But there's a lot of great content on YouTube, and we have our podcast, our talks.
	Maybe you'll come on our talk one day.
	Are you guys, you were an assistant to Rabbi Leightman, right?
	You're his student, but you were also assisting him.
	Are you guys still collaborating with him?
	We're collaborating.
	I mean, just like all of his students who have a certain role in this, in that sense, we are.
	But right now, he's just not doing a lot of other talks.
	He's focusing mostly on the students right now and some of the programs he's doing out of Israel.
	But anyway, as I said, we have to go.
	It was great, man.
	I don't know why it took us so long.
	Would love to talk again, or maybe you come over to ours as well.
	And yeah, I mean, at the very least, I think this is what people should be doing, talking about these things.
	Absolutely.
	That's what I like about you guys.
	You guys are willing to have the conversations.
	So I hope wish you guys well, and I will be in touch.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Thank you, Adam.
	Take care.
	Okay, they had to go.
	They were over time.
	I told them an hour and 15 minutes.
	We went an hour and 35 minutes.
	And they said, thanks.
	Thanks, everybody in the chat, for watching.
	Sorry I didn't get the stream up a little earlier to give you guys notice.
	I didn't hear back a confirmation on them, so I didn't know if they were going to show or not until a few minutes before.
	Let me see some of these super chats and then we'll close it out.
	Oh, he says, if you want a copy of the book I wrote about the Space Center teacher telling me where to send.
	I'll check out his book.
	It's, they're a different strand of Kabbalah than Chabad.
	So you saw how they didn't want to, they're like, we don't have to explain what Chabad has to say.
	It'd be nice if they, I should have pushed him maybe to, well, do you condemn this interpretation that they have of Kabbalah?
	But maybe we can save that for next time.
	Let's see.
	Was says, so we can sit around all day while you labor.
	Esau is in the field and Jacob's in the tent studying.
	Were the Hyksos Jewish?
	That wouldn't be a good question for this.
	Yehudi Israel and we are together.
	That's what they call love.
	It is sectarian, says Odyssey.
	The Jew function, do you love Gentiles?
	I imagine he would say yes.
	Say no to Yahweh.
	Thanks for coming on.
	Thanks, everybody, for watching.
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	I've got a lot of good material coming up.
	I have a debate tonight on the Crucible on YouTube with a Protestant Christian.
	The topic is, is Christianity a burden to society?
	So not the usual topic that I've been debating, like, is Christianity real or is Christianity a deception?
	But I think it will be a productive discussion.
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