Breaking Spells & Crushing Sacred Cows with Owen Benjamin | Know More News LIVE w/ Adam Green
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
I am Adam Green with No More News.
Thank you all for joining me today, Tuesday, August 16th, 2022.
This is the one that you have all been waiting for.
The interview with the most banned comedian, maybe in the history of all time.
I watched him leave Hollywood, get in bed with much of the Zionists on the internet, like Dennis Prager and Infowars.
I watched him turn on all of them, and I've been wanting to talk to him for a long time.
He is, Mr. Owen Benjamin is here.
What's going on, Owen?
Nice for having me, man.
Brick cathartic.
Yes, yes, it is.
So I watched you turn on everybody, leave Hollywood.
I loved all of it, too, by the way.
Seeing you go on against Prager and Ben Shapiro and you've never seen anybody from Hollywood ever start criticizing Zionism or taboo issues.
That's what I titled today, Breaking Spells and Crushing Sacred Cows.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I like how you say Zionism.
I got caught in the J-trap, and I feel like you navigated it a little better than me, because it is an ideology where there's a lot of this wickedness and not, you know, all the people.
And so kudos for that.
I just called them Jews for like two years, and I realized it was more of an ideology.
So nice.
Well, I use both, you know, given what I'm talking about.
Sometimes I'll say Jews when it applies better, but I see really just Zionism is Judaism and Christianity, like the belief in Zion, the belief that Zion has like a biblical significance.
And most Zionists in America and around the world aren't Jewish.
They're Christian.
And I see Christianity as a basically controlled opposition.
And I've got some clips of you saying something very similar.
And I wondered if I could play that and we could talk it out a little bit.
Yeah, absolutely.
Today.
But before we get to that, I wanted to play this quick one of you.
This is from one of your...
You're catching up to him pretty soon.
The top G. But this is the same experience that I get online as you go through all the different people that attack you.
I have a lot of solidarity with you on this issue here.
Words for...
Libertarians say Owen Benjamin is a statist.
Republicans say Owen Benjamin needs to be more gay.
Nazis just say Owen Benjamin is a Jew.
Zionists say Owen Benjamin is anything that hurts his reputation.
And Churchians say Owen Benjamin listens to Jesus too much and doesn't twist his words for personal profit.
Liberals say Owen Benjamin is a Nazi.
So that really resonated because I get the same thing.
The people on the left call you an anti-Semites and white supremacist or whatever slurs they can.
And then the people on the right, I get attacked by so many Christians or actual white supremacists.
And I know you have the same experience, right?
Yeah, and I want to apologize for you, Tia, because I was under the impression you like were one of those white guys and you're not.
And I was misinformed.
So I apologize for that.
Because when we were emailing, I was very relieved when you were like, dude, I don't like that you call me a white supremacist.
I'm like, I thought you like were.
That was your whole thing.
Because I've been watching a little bit.
And so I think it's important to apologize when you're wrong.
And so I'm glad to hear that you're not that because I think it's very gay.
Like the neo-Nazi type, you know, white pride stuff without any accomplishment with victim consciousness.
Because I know we're just talking about Zionism.
I think it's a way to describe it and to bring it all together is victim consciousness where, you know, someone's trying to hurt me.
Oh my God, someone's trying to hurt me.
And I see that now That, you know, the most people that are like that, I think, are Jewish people.
Like, I think, you know, Pew Research said 70% of Jews define their identity by the Holocaust, which is really alarming.
That's like if 70% of women define themselves by being raped, like, that's really not a good stat.
And I know a lot of Christians, like you said, that are pulling the same shit, especially a lot of these mega churches, a lot of these people that don't allow you to, you know, think the way you want.
Like, I don't go to a church because I, the only one I knew around here that didn't close during COVID has a giant Israeli flag in it.
And I'm like, what is that?
Like, how is that in the Bible?
Did you sit through the sermon or did you walk out before it started when you saw the Israeli flag?
No, I sat through it because I had my family and my buddy was there.
And it was so funny because my buddy is like a former Navy SEAL.
And so, and they were trying to push all this shit that he knows is bullshit.
And we were just almost giggling.
And it just, the spell didn't really work very well for us.
And because they were trying to pull this whole like victim consciousness of the Middle East and all this.
And, you know, this dude had just gotten back from the Middle East and was really looking for like spiritual answers and community and all the good stuff about Christianity.
And we just couldn't believe the whole point was about, you know, those who bless Israel are blessed by God.
And we were almost like laughing.
But I know a lot of good people that go there and there's some innocent people there.
And that's why I pretty much judge people and view people by their fruit.
Like, are they making stuff?
Are they having families?
Or are they always bitching?
You know, and so, but I'm with you, dude.
I'm with you on the dialectic two-step of like, you know, Steven Crowder and Ben Shapiru and all these guys just doing the pit and pendulum bullshit, you know?
Pit and pedestal is the term you use.
Pit and pedestal.
Pitt and pedestal.
Yeah, not pendulum.
That's from that's from that novel.
I context of it as a villain and victim complex as well.
And when you first, part of your awakening process, which we've all got to observe online over the last few years, and I have paid attention, I watched it all go down.
And when you were turning on Infowars, you were complimenting me for my debate that I had with Owen Schroyer a few years ago.
And you said, you once said that you were binge-watching my videos and learning about Zionism.
And you also once said that I was the only person that you wanted to stream with, which was probably a little hyperbolic and joking.
But I'm happy we finally got to do that.
But then some drama occurred, some stupid drama that we could have worked out, no problem.
We would have just talked, but that's how it goes sometimes.
But you criticized me.
You said that you thought that I hated Jews.
And if you watch my videos, you would know that's absolutely not the truth.
I hate Jewish supremacy.
I hate anti-Gentile beliefs.
But the hate of the Jews is like their secret to their strength.
They thrive off of anti-Semitism.
I'm so glad you know that.
Like when we were first going to talk, and I can be a bit of a hyperbolic comedic guy who doesn't do enough research, like fact about people.
So I just saw clips and I was like, oh, because I just lumped you into the category of the guy that would call me a Jew or a shill for some reason, which is crazy because you were right about Jones.
So my bad.
I do apologize for that.
But the whole, the thing I wanted to talk to you about was victim consciousness and how they want us to hate them.
And I recently did a breakdown of like how much I learned that from my dad growing up because my dad has a similar vibe.
You know, he's raised Catholic, but his mom was like from a banker family, but he was poor.
And so I don't know.
It's a long stream.
You can check it out.
But the whole thing is victim consciousness.
And so if you hate them, they love it.
They like feed on it.
That's why I'm now just like very nice and distant with my dad because when you yell at them, it's almost like you're powering up a robot.
And I think a lot of Jewish people, and not just Jewish people, everybody.
It's not just, you know, like a lot of these Zionist churches, I agree with you.
A lot of these neo-Nazi leather boot guys, if you hate them, they feel like it defines them.
And they're like, yes, I knew I was a special boy.
And so, and I used to fall into that trap.
So it's like, I'm glad that we're both out of that.
That's awesome.
Right.
And a lot on the internet almost pressures you to behave that way, even though it benefits the comments and stuff.
Like, you know, you said that you thought I was the type that would call you a Jew.
I mean, you look to me like a six foot seven big bear woodsman with blue eyes.
I wouldn't consider that very criticizing Jews all the time online and getting attacked all over the internet for it.
And same thing with me.
People are always calling me Jewish also.
I've showed my DNA.
I was raised Christian.
Same story.
But they want us to hate.
The people will attack us for not hating enough.
And you're absolutely right about the pit and the pedestal, the villain in the victim complex.
Judaism basically branched off into Christianity, which is Judaism for the Gentiles, where their obsession is hating Jews because they killed God.
They created a religion where they were hated.
And then it's played out, as you say in this clip here, we're going to play second for 2,000 years.
You're playing a clip?
Unless you wanted to comment first.
See, I don't give them that much credit.
I think that Jesus' message is awesome and very powerful and very helpful.
And it doesn't say, hate the Jews.
I'm God.
They're killing me.
I think that's an interpretation, which is what got me and E. Michael Jones debating.
That I don't see it as the Jews killed God.
I consider myself Christian and I love the teachings of Jesus, but I don't fall into that at all.
I agree with you on that.
I think that that is one of these almost SM games where it's like, the Jews killed God.
Like, think about how you're deifying somebody if you say that they killed the creator of heaven and earth.
It's like, it feels like you're talking shit about Jews, but in reality, you're putting them above God if you say they killed God.
And so that's why Emichael Jones is very helpful to me when he taught me how porn is a weapon and he taught about fiat currency and sodomy being like making something fertile sterile and vice versa.
But I think that there's a deification of Jews in that mentality where they're like, oh, Jews make me watch porn or Jews, you know, because they, I mean, if you look at who owns porn, a lot of them are Jews, but they don't, we have our free will and they don't make us do anything.
It's like they don't make us take loans.
They don't make us watch porn.
They don't make us do opioids.
Granted, a lot of them are in those industries, but we do have free will and they're not God.
They're not deities.
And I agree with you.
I think that that take on Christianity, because Jesus never says any of that.
He never says, I am God.
The Jew is killing me.
The Jew will make you watch the pornos.
Like, I don't.
He says they wanted to kill him according to the scriptures.
I don't believe that he even existed.
And like you say, the Gospels and the Bible is grappled with.
I love that term.
But I think the whole thing is just a...
I think Paul's a little grabbly.
I'm a little suspicious of Paul, but that's like, you know.
Well, that's half of the New Testament.
That's all of the earliest Christian documents that we have.
I think the most grabble is when it's translated.
And I think the council in ICU was a little grabbly.
But yeah, I'm cool with you thinking that we still be best bros.
I mean, right now, my friend is staying with me that just got back from Africa, like learning about, you know, shamanism.
And I love learning about other shit.
Like, I'm not one of those Christians that's like, how dare you?
Get on your knees.
I think that everybody has a different path to truth.
And I think that, you know, different cultures have different connections to truth.
And I think that I don't know if I want to call it religion.
I think religion and spirituality are important in cultures.
And when it's removed, you get idol worship like scientism and, you know, people worshiping, you know, Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate and shit.
Because I think we're designed to worship and designed to have like a moral compass.
And when that's removed, which happened to me for a long time, like I was raised Catholic.
I thought it was all bullshit.
And I still do.
I'm like, I'm not giving a guy in a black dress money so I can be on a cloud.
This is retarded.
But then I saw a lot of truth of the Bible in my life through pain, like a lot of pain I was going through.
And I think that a moral compass is really good because I think that we all naturally want to worship something.
And if it's not God or if it's not your creator, if it's not like something higher, then it's, you know, like veganism or CrossFit or dildos or something or soy-based diets.
It's like, I think it caused a lot of mental illness.
So you self-identify as a Christian, but I'm sure you would agree you have an unorthodox, heretical take on Christianity.
Jay Dyer called us both heretics in the same week, which basically implies that they want to stone us to death is what they call for blasphemy.
Yeah, I took it as the same level of threat.
It's like, yeah, E. Michael Jones did the same thing.
They did that intervention.
And I still kind of like the guy.
I think he's like a funny guy.
But I was like, dude, this is crazy.
Like, you guys are saying that I don't have a connection to God.
It's very arrogant because I don't believe in exactly how they interpret their body.
You know, like kissing bones and statues and shit.
I'm like, this is not consistent at all.
So I have a right to think any way I fucking want, you know?
So I heard that you bullied E. Michael Jones into retiring his bow ties.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I went hard at the bow ties because that's because, you know, he started it, and I just did my comedy shit on him.
But, you know, I talked about how his son's a ballet dancer and he wears a bow tie and how I'm not going to take theological advice from that.
And he did.
He stopped wearing a bow tie because he knew it was a week late.
It was like such an Achilles heel that anyone could call him like a, you know, a gay time traveler or something.
You know, he just he looks like the Muppet of that, like, that comedian.
I don't know his name, but he has all the different puppets, like the old man puppet with the bow tie.
That's what he reminds me of a little bit.
But I like E. Michael Jones too.
I had a debate with him a couple months ago, and I and I know you at least saw that I had a talk with him because you showed it on one of your shows, but you didn't comment on it.
The only comment was he's not wearing a bow tie anymore.
You didn't, did you watch that?
I'm guessing you didn't.
I didn't watch it.
I really don't watch a lot of videos.
I'll start watching your shit more now that I know that we're vibing.
But I don't, I really, I don't even have a YouTube account anymore.
I have to like manually sign in.
And, you know, I got four kids under seven and a farm and shit.
Like, I'll listen to a few things, but I haven't kept up with a lot of people anymore.
And so, you know, I will.
Cool.
Cool.
I think you'll be blown away once you see some of the stuff I start covering.
So here, let's play this clip then and we'll get a little bit more into this.
This is your response after E. Michael Jones with Milo and a few other people decided to have an intervention because you're making fun of the Trinity, which was so hilarious.
There's guys on YouTube so triggered, churchians, as you call them, saying he compared the Holy Ghost to a squirt, to an ejaculation.
It's just hearing that is the funniest thing in the world.
I love it.
All right, here we go.
Why is that not working?
Okay, hold on.
And isn't it funny how in that little group it looks like the father Michael Jones is the father, Milo's the son, and then the Holy Ghost is like a woman with like white hair.
And she's cool.
I mean, I like her, but it was just kind of funny.
And then I ended up pranking the magician.
I didn't put it on air.
I did it live, but I checked out the laws.
And I think there's, it might have been a two-party consent state.
But he's a fucking magician, and he's going to publicly say that I'm a heretic.
And so I, you know, that's ridiculous.
So I called him up live to try and book him to do magic tricks.
And it was pretty funny.
He's spiraled.
That's this guy up here in the right?
Yeah.
His last name's Coffin.
Again, I have no like animosity, but it's like, if someone's going to take a swing at my theology.
And I'm not a great Christian or super dialed into theology.
Like everyone knows that.
I'm like a pretty open-minded guy, but I do have a strong belief in God.
And I feel like my life is pretty dialed into nature and shit.
And I'm happy.
But a fucking magician or a guy in a bow tie or a gay guy are not going to tell me that I'm like how to pray to God.
Like that's just not happening.
And I think it backfired miserably on them because your routine, your bit about the Holy Ghost and the Trinity is hilarious.
And you do point out a bunch of things about it that just don't make any sense.
Hopefully the audio will work here now.
Here's the thing.
I've never talked shit about Emichael Jones at all out of respect for him.
But if you're going to be in a little hyena trap, I'm going to tell you what I think now.
If you're going to try and hyena trap me when I trust that I'm just having a conversation, it's like, okay, well, I think Catholics and the Jews are in a sadomasochistic bond together where the Catholic is on the pedestal saying, you need us to get to God.
The Jew is in the pit saying everyone's attacking me.
And they've been in dysfunctional marriage for fucking a thousand years.
And they need each other to complete the battery circuit.
So every time Emichael Jones talks about the Jew, he's talking about his fucking bride.
That's the reality.
Because the Catholic, the pompous cunts that they are, they say, only on the rock of Peter will you go to heaven through our cardinals and bishops and nonsense.
Without the Jew, there is no Catholic.
Without the Catholic, there's no Jew in their battery.
It's a self-hating, dominant, subfucking whipping boy bullshit.
You can't kill God.
So now you're going to play an S and M little sex game for 2,000 years about how the Jew killed God, but then God came back.
And now you hate the Jew.
And the Jews just traying it's fucking sexual and it's disgusting.
Everyone keeps like people say to me, oh, read the Bible.
The Trinity is all over the Bible.
No, the fuck it isn't.
Jesus Christ rejects being called a living God many times.
One God.
How do you go to heaven and sit at the right hand of yourself?
Who was God while Jesus was dead for three days?
It's so stupid.
Jesus on that cross isn't forgiving your sinful, shit, lying life.
Just take your three-headed Godhead and be honest.
You're a pagan.
You're a pagan.
You're a fucking heathen.
And that's fine.
I have many friends that are heathens.
Do I preach to them and tell them why they're wrong?
No, I love them.
They know how to make batteries.
They know you're a battery, bitch.
Heathens know that the Catholic and the Jew make a battery.
The pit and the pedestal.
Only through us, the richest motherfuckers in this land, can you go to heaven?
And the Jew says, we're hated.
Everyone's trying to hurt me.
And together you're making energy, aren't you?
But that battery is fading.
And fucking the Trinity, the three-headed God monster, go play Dungeons and Dragons, gay guy.
Okay.
But you should point at first.
It got so much hate.
You know, and again, there's a lot of Catholics that I like and respect as people, but, you know, I was just asking where the feminine was.
I asked who Jesus was praying to.
Just innocent questions as I was reconnecting with Christianity.
And they're like, you have to believe.
Oh, how dare you?
And I'm like, bro, you don't want to do this with me, man.
I'm going to make fun of it so bad.
It's two guys and a ghost.
You know, like, that sounds pretty fucking gay.
And they're like, gay, you say the God is gay?
I'm like, no, I'm not the one claiming that's God.
I don't understand how a father, a son, and a ghost can be the root of all creation.
Like, where's the feminine?
You know, and I do see trinities in nature and in life, like past, present, future, time, matter, space.
Like, I get it, but like the way they're hammering it, I know they just want submission.
They want you to get, they want you to put a DAO in their basket and kiss the ring and fucking say that you understand it.
When I know for a fact, most people have no idea what that is.
The people that get the most mad about it are the ones that I know don't understand it.
And they're scared that they Don't understand it, so they're freaking out, you know.
Well, I think you raise really good points, and the way you describe that to me sounds like you see that Christianity and Judaism are like two sides of the same coin, they need each other, they enable each other, they're codependence in this Jewish, I've got the covenant belief system.
And I see Christianity is just another Jewish sect arguing and victimizing the Jews over who the Messiah is.
And I see this as a deception to get the whole world to worship the God of Israel.
Like you say that you've got a close relationship with God.
Is this the God of the Bible?
Because that would make it the God of Israel.
Well, just the creator of heaven and earth.
You know, it's just whoever made me.
I'm a little more abstract.
It's like I'm not into the whole, because the New Testament doesn't have that angle cemented in there like people think.
That's like the churches and the sects and the power structures in the Vatican.
They're not functioning as Christians, in my opinion.
It's like call no man father.
You know, don't preach in Rome.
Like, give Caesar Caesars.
Like, you know, it preaches about seeking yo shall find, like, asking, you shall receive, like to be humble with the earth and to like be fruitful and multiply.
And when you're looking at the entire Vatican, none of them have kids.
They're as sterile as you can possibly be.
You call them father.
They have a staff.
I do bits about how the Pope is just a pimp.
It's like he's got a gold cup, a cane.
You call him daddy.
You give him 10%.
You know, I'm like, that's a fucking pimp, man.
And I think that it's easy to say Christianity when it's, you know, it's the church.
And then I agree with you also the Protestant churches.
You go into a Baptist church or Lutheran church or Presbyterian church in America right now.
You got a rainbow flag.
And, you know, it's a joke.
It's either they're preaching hellfire against the Jews, which gives the Jews power, or they're pushing sodomy and nonsense.
But that isn't what I believe was Jesus's message.
And, you know, I'm totally cool that you don't think Jesus existed.
Like, I'm not triggered or hurt by that at all.
I just think that the teachings are fractal and repetitive in nature and in my life.
And that's why I connect to it because I see them kind of unfold over and over again.
I think that time and life, it's like patterns that keep repeating.
And I see those patterns in the Bible.
But again, I see grabbles and I see stuff that I don't connect to.
Like, I don't think circumcision is good.
And, you know, I made fun of the whole King David clipping Goliath's dick.
Like, I made fun of that for like two weeks.
Like, I'm not super triggered about the Christian stuff.
But overall, I think that it's really beautiful.
But I think it's been, I think you have a really good point about how it's been hijacked.
It's almost like when I was a kid, Stonyfield yogurt was all natural and local and all that.
And then some grabbler bought it and filled it with poison, but it still says Stonyfield on it.
And I feel like a lot of Christianity that happened.
And I don't know when it happened.
You know, maybe it's always been like that.
Maybe since the Council and I see it, they've been grabbling, but I don't, I read old, I read old Christian writers and like C.S. Lewis and all these guys.
And I'm like, those guys really get it about nature and God.
And then now I don't relate to churches at all.
But I don't think that, I think that's their fault.
I think it's on them to change, not me.
Interesting.
You seem to focus a lot on like the Catholic Church, probably because you grew up Catholic, but this is what you see all the time in Christianity.
Whenever I point out something crazy a Christian's doing or a church or a pastor's doing, they always say, oh, those aren't real Christians.
Those aren't the real Christians.
I'm the real Christian.
And I see this.
This is like the no true Scotsman fallacy where you can never criticize it.
And I don't think it's just this interpretation's wrong or the church has lost and fallen away, lost its way.
I think it's the source in the scripture is the problem and where that came from.
Because to be a Christian, you have to believe in Jesus and the new covenant.
And to believe in the new covenant, you have to believe in the old covenant, which was the Jewish covenant.
And then the whole thing just seems to me like a deception to get everybody worshiping the God of Israel.
And we can see where that's taking the world right now.
Half the world believes in Abrahamic faiths and they believe in the Torah is the holy word of God.
And you can see how the Zionists have so much power basically directly from that.
What do you think of that?
Do you think they're gaining power?
Do you think they're kind of losing some of it?
I think they're gaining power.
There's like a big Christian nationalist revival.
There's all this worship of Trump.
Like almost nine in ten in Congress identify as Christian.
There's more Christian Zionists in America than any country in the world.
The crazier that the left gets, the more religious people on the right get, and vice versa.
And like how you say, and you know, your videos making fun of the Trinity.
I've only told Al this publicly, my friend.
Your videos making fun of the Trinity, knowing that you have a, I know that you've got a bunch of Christian followers that watch you.
And I've criticized you before saying that you're promoting the Jesus stuff because you're trying to make money.
I don't know if I exactly said that.
I criticize all Christians for that.
The Christ grift, the Jesus is Kane grift.
I don't do that, though.
Well, you obviously don't because you're attacking the Christians non-stop and getting tons of hate from Christians.
But I just wanted to say that you going at your Christian audience, knowing that you're going to lose supporters and get attacked and lose money, that inspired me to do the same thing with my audience.
Honestly, it made me seeing you go with them inspired me to do the same thing because I've been exposing Zionism and Jews, Judaism, for since 2014 online.
And I always notice I wasn't getting anywhere because I was kind of back then I thought Jesus actually existed.
He was just a reformer.
He was trying to improve Judaism.
You know, I was raised Christian.
I kind of identified, I liked the anti-Zionist Christians, so-called like E. Michael Jones and others like that.
But I realized like I'm trying to criticize Jews because they're supremacist or they want to rule the world according to their prophecies, but it goes nowhere because the Christians believe all of those exact same things.
And instead of pointing out the Jews are supremacists and they think we're satanic, the Christians are in the comments everywhere, making them into the victims.
It's almost like they scapegoated Gentiles with their sins to turn us into the villains through Christianity and them into the victims.
And pit and pedestal, victim, villain.
Are you familiar?
You got to watch my videos on Jacob and Esau because this explains the whole thing.
Jacob is the Jews.
Esau is the Gentiles.
They believe they're chosen to be hated.
They're taught as young kids, the goy hates you and they want to kill you.
I know you know this because I've seen you say it in your videos, but you've nailed it.
And you just, if I think if you watch some of my videos, some of the other pieces to the puzzle will come and you're really going to start pissing off some of the Christians in your audience.
What do you think the truth is?
Like, what's your cosmology?
I'm agnostic.
You've attacked me before.
You told your audience, he's an atheist.
Like, that's a bad thing if I was, but I'm not a militant atheist.
I was responding.
You did say I was doing a grift.
That's a little insulting.
So I was like, you know, I turned it up a little bit, but, you know, we made up.
It's all good.
It kind of escalated and it shouldn't have gone down that path.
But yeah, yeah, I'm glad we're talking it out.
But what do I believe?
I don't believe that's the God of the Bible.
I don't like when anybody says, oh, I'm a prophet and I speak for God or God said this or God gave us this land or we have a special covenant.
We're chosen by God.
All of that, I think, is nonsense.
But I'm not an atheist.
I should call the Dead Sea a puddle of cum.
Like, I'm not, I'm not like, I think that Zion, in a sense, in a philosophical sense, could be everywhere.
It could just be the land itself.
It's like this whole idea that the special boys could get the special land, I think is retarded.
But like, what, so what, uh, but see, this is the thing, though, is I don't know if it's, I think a lot of people kind of, I wouldn't, I don't know if it's need because I don't want to make it like it's just a utility, but the way we think is in story form.
And I don't know.
I feel like people kind of naturally gravitate towards a cosmology, like an origin story.
And what, so what's yours?
So you're just, you just tap out and you just like, you're like, you don't have an origin story?
I don't have an origin story.
I think existence could be eternal.
There could be, you know, infinite universes.
There could be fractal universe where our whole known universe is just a little tiny little proton in a whole nother universe and going up and down fractally in both ways.
I really don't know, but I don't pretend to know.
And another criticism you've given me is that I'm a despair.
Not just me.
You say this for lots of people, that people fall into despair.
I don't find myself in despair at all.
I grew up believing in God, believing in ghosts and demons because I grew up in church.
I was scared of ghosts because they tell you the Holy Ghost is real.
So, and I was scared, even though my brain said none of this makes sense, I was still scared to actually believe it because I was scared of hell.
And I think that's, there's a quote that's religion will be around as long as death is around because the fear of death makes people want to have eternal life.
But it's fear-based mind control.
You're going to go to hell if you don't believe in the blood magic sacrifice ritual and you don't believe in the Jewish prophecies.
You're an antichrist and you're evil and you're going to burn in hell.
I mean, you're a spellbreaker, right?
You do break some spells.
Is there no greater spell over the minds of the people than these Abrahamic myths over the last 2,000 years from the Bible?
All these, I think anything fear-based like that, where if you love God because you're scared of death, I think is spell.
You know, I agree with you.
I think that if somebody, because I've heard people talk about how if they're good, they get a mansion in heaven.
And that type of stuff disgusts me.
You know, I'm like, I'm honestly not scared of death.
Like, I'm scared.
Yeah, I can say scared.
I'm scared of loved ones dying, like the death of a child or something.
Like that would be fucking horrifying and that would be intense.
But I'm not fear-based when it comes to my cosmology.
I think a lot of it's just really beautiful and it's a great story.
And I think that I can apply it to my life and it helps me a lot.
And I think that there's elements of it that I can choose to find odd and weird.
And I don't want to dominate other people.
And I, I don't know, I can see mind control in a lot of the institutions for sure.
But I think it's a beautiful tradition.
And I think that, I don't know, I can apply it to my life a lot.
It's not fear-based.
But I think you're right.
I think if somebody, if you tell a little kid, you're going to burn in hell if you don't do everything daddy says, I don't think that's true at all.
And I think that that is a form of mind control.
And I'm with you on that.
But I don't see that as Christianity.
I think that there's elements of the Torah that are like that.
And I think it was written by a lot of very scared Jews.
But they were like, you know, I don't think it's the same Jews we have now, though.
I think that the modern Jew is not the same Jew.
You think they're Khazarians?
I don't know.
I just think that they're like, it's a brand hijack.
I think that they're defined by victim consciousness.
And I think that, you know, as far as bloodlines, I don't see, as a farmer, I don't see how bloodlines can last a super long time.
It's like I breed chickens and goats and shit.
And it's so quickly, they so quickly change if any new breed is introduced.
That I'm like, when people talk about direct bloodlines and they can trace themselves back to Moses, I'm not buying it for a second.
I think the most accurate bloodlines in America are from the Mormons because they can go back to like the 1600s.
But it's, I don't know.
I just think that there's a lot that people don't actually know.
I find that with NASA too.
I think people don't like admitting they don't know shit.
And so they just jump.
That's one thing I'll give you as far as religion.
It's like, I think sometimes people have a hard time admitting they don't know.
And so they go so into an ideology that they're mad at anyone who questions it.
Like I see that with NASA's view of space.
Like I don't know what a fucking star is.
I know it's definitely not a million light years away, you know, gas combusting.
Like there's no way that's what that is.
And I think that concept really freaks people out.
And so they want to have this like this thing that explains the whole universe when I don't think we're supposed to know all this shit.
Like, I teach my kids that it's okay to not know.
Like, what do you think the moon is?
What do you think the stars are?
What do you think God is like?
You know?
And that it's okay to not know and to not lie about it and to not make like bold claims that you can't back up, at least on some level.
And if you do, like Genesis and stuff like that, if you do have something that you can't fully prove, just acknowledge that it's your faith, that it's not fact-based.
And it's okay if someone believes something else as long as they're not, you know, as long as they're not evil.
I see.
What do you think of the concept that a lot of Christians have that we're born damned and sick and destined for hell unless we accept the blood?
Yeah, no, my first communion, no, my baptism, my mom called entrance into Christianity because she didn't believe in original sin, and I don't believe in original sin.
I believe that we have original sin in the sense that we can choose to harm ourselves and choose to go against the truth and self-deceive.
But I don't believe a baby is born evil unless they eat a cracker and fucking give money to a guy in a dress.
Like, obviously, that's retarded.
But I understand pieces of original sin when it comes to, you know, you look at a go, I'm around animals all the time.
You look at a cow or a goat or even a coyote, and you don't want to put them in jail because they're like innocent.
It's like they just do what they do.
There's no ability to self-deceive or an agenda or there's like an innocence about nature that humans don't have.
And I think that that is actually what it is.
I don't think that we're born dirty and sick and gross and we have to be cleansed.
But I think that our ability to self-deceive and to not be innocent is kind of how I view the fallen nature of man.
But I don't view it in like the hellfire views.
You know, I don't see it like that at all.
I tell a kid he's sick and he has to kiss a ring.
I think that's like child abuse, in my opinion.
I just did a video the other night, and I've been doing lots of videos on this.
The idea that Jesus is actually, you know, the Jews kind of pretend like they hate him, right?
They say he's boiling an excrement.
They say his name represents that his name will be blotted out.
You know, Jesus is the adversary.
He's the villain in the Jewish story, right?
Did you agree with that to the Jews?
Well, in the Babylonian Talmud, I think a lot of Jews have no idea about any of that because I'm like you.
Like I've grilled some people.
I've seen some quotes out of the Talmud and I'm like, read this out loud to me.
Do you think I'm a cow?
And they're like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
They're like, I'm just trying to make my car payment.
You know, I think that a lot of them don't.
And I'm guilty of that too.
I think there's probably parts of the Old Testament where if you read it word for word to me, I would have a hard time backing it up.
You know, there'd be points where I would be like, dude, I don't know, man.
That's beyond my pay grade.
And so I do think that there is definitely a Jewish tradition that has made Jesus into like the Ben Shapira, you know, Benjapira.
Jesus was a, it was like a, you know, it was a common criminal.
It was, you know, it's a common criminal, which is crazy to like, but yeah, yeah, I'll give you that, that there is a tradition within quote-unquote Jews in the Babylonian Talmud that Jesus is like burning and shit.
And he was, he was conceived by a Roman guard named Pantera.
That's why Christians going to Pantera concerts always found very funny.
Well, I think this is a ruse and that they actually do, there's a secret in Judaism that's going to be revealed at the end of time that Jesus actually, they're going to acknowledge, oh, he was our Messiah and he was just fulfilling his divine role because they believe in two messiahs.
But I just wanted to share this with you real quick.
There's so many examples of this of rabbis, top rabbis saying the same thing about Jesus.
So here's your old buddy here, Dennis Prager, who you actually did a few videos for.
they took down.
And they took down, and now you're on here with me.
But listen to what he has to say about Christianity here.
Word.
And I don't take that both.
The greatest Jewish thinker, many think.
That's what I believe.
And as Maimon, Christians often say, you know, I think you're the most prayed for man in America.
And I think it's true because of the many wonderful Christians who pray that I receive Christ.
And I don't take that.
By the way, I just want to make it clear.
I'm not only not offended, I'm actually touched by these people really do love me.
And I love them.
Christians true to their faith are doing God's work.
That's what I believe.
And as Maimonides, who was no fan of Christianity or Islam, because he was persecuted by both, the greatest Jewish thinker, many think, he said it's Christians who brought the world to the Torah more than Jews did.
And I never forget that.
That's a fact.
The reason people know the word Genesis or Leviticus or Deuteronomy is because of Christians.
In fact, I'm very sad about Jews getting as so we could stop it there.
So he's like a gangster.
He is.
Would they, what's more likely the case, that all of these stories in the Bible really happened or that some grabblers made it up for this very reason to convince the Gentiles to worship their God and believe in their holy book?
Well, I just see Dennis Prager as just lying to get money.
I mean, he told, I mean, they're not following the Torah or anything.
I mean, he told Dave Rubin that he's bisexual.
And Dave Rubin is currently married to a guy who bangs him in the ass.
And they just adopted two kids.
It's like, these are clowns to me.
So I think that when I watch that, I almost picture like gangster type power moves of like, yo, I fucked your girl before you do, you did or something.
You know, I don't see that as like valid theology.
I see Dennis Prager as somebody who's just trying to get naive Christians to give him money because he's, you know, good with magic.
Like, I just, I don't take him very seriously.
It just seems kind of, you know, he's got a shaved face.
The Torah says, don't shave your face.
He's like, he told Dave Rubin he's bisexual.
I'm like, the fuck is this?
See, that's one way I judge people now, too.
It's like, how perverse, like, how towering of perversions are you?
And the Torah says that, you know, sodomites get fucking stoned.
And these guys are like, oh, my God, I married a man.
I'm like, okay, so you're not even Jews.
You're just like these weird, pink-tied, shaved-faced gay guys, you know?
I saw your video you had with Sam Tripoli arguing about how you were banned from Rockfin.
And I'd like to talk about that if Mark from Rockfin would allow that.
If that's okay with Martin from Rockfin.
Yeah.
Oh, is it Martin?
I thought it was Mark.
Yeah.
So you were banned recently from Rockfin and over pretty benign stuff, actually, right?
You want to explain that a little bit for us?
Yeah, I did a cartoon.
If you want to play it, it's at unbearablesmedia.com.
There's like a picture of that ESPN, that black guy on ESPN.
It was all about the vaccine where it was like, and I did Shaq.
You know, Shaq was like, come on, man.
Come on, Kyrie.
If the Jew gives you a shot, you got to take it, Kyrie.
We animated the whole thing, and he was eating a banana.
And I also, it was the grabbler mask.
Somebody custom-made like this absurd grabbler mask with like this big nose and it just looks scary.
And they were so offended that they banned me.
And I was arguing with Sam Tripley about that.
It got pretty heated.
And the funny thing is, is Shaq, I've been in a movie with Shaq.
I shot a scene in House Bunny with Shaq.
Like, the dude knows he looks like a gorilla.
He does jokes about it all the time.
And the Grabbler mask, like I, one thing I did with Sam Tripoli, just to kind of show people they're aware, is when I was talking to him, I made fun of Armenians being super hairy.
Like I was like talking about how they're like werewolves and they have hair on their foreheads and shit.
And he laughed along, you know, but yet he's offended if I made fun of how grabblers look.
And I'm like, dude, I mock the tribe of your mother and you don't get, which is fine.
I Think it's cool to mock everybody.
I mock, you know, Danish people and Canadians and Irish people and blacks and whites, whatever.
But they're so offended if you make fun of Jews.
Like, they're so offended.
They get so angry.
And I'm like, dude, Shaq does jokes.
Like, he's been in front of a gorilla at a zoo pretending to be a gorilla because he knows he's a giant dude who looks like a gorilla.
And so I just think that that's so stupid.
It just shows almost like a form of slavery where they're like, and here's one thing I will say.
There are the Christian Zionists that appear to be slaves to the Israeli Jewish thing that they got going on.
And I think there is a difference.
I think most Israelis are like atheistic, satanic, not most Israelis, but I think that power structure has nothing to do with the God they claim they worship.
And I think they're using Jews as a liability shield.
Like everyone's going to start, because I don't know if you've noticed, but people are openly making fun, like blaming Jews for shit now.
That that's going to be where they offload a lot of crime.
It's like, it's the Jews.
And it's like just the idiot at the deli, just like minding his own business is the reason the stock market crashed.
And I think that they're burning, they're doing a retreating controlled burn.
And so, yeah, that's my thoughts on the Sam Tripoli thing.
I just think it's, oh, yeah, my point was: I think some of the biggest slaves to those people are materialistic, atheist type, like scientist type, like people that think any belief in God is crazy.
Like those are the ones I see that are really on Donkey Island.
Like in Hollywood, nobody quote unquote believes in God.
And those guys would do anything to defend their quote unquote Jewish handlers.
And Sam Tripoli is no different.
I mean, that was insane.
Yeah, it was really pathetic.
He's like, oh, it's a free speech platform.
They'll let you talk about flat earth there.
Like that's like that's a you know a big deal.
You just can't question World War II and or you know make fun of Shaq who says in his own words that he that every gorilla in every zoo he goes and visits, they run over and look at him like they think he's a gorilla, which is hilarious.
Exactly.
But yeah, they're trying to be all high and mighty about vaccines.
They're like, the platform is doing real work, man.
We're talking about vaccines.
I'm like, bro, the agenda's over.
That was two and a half fucking years ago.
My last YouTube channel that was allowed at all was booted because I was calling out COVID from day one.
I was like, name one person in your life that's sick of this.
And I was talking about not taking the vaccines back before they rolled it out.
And then they roll it out.
They get everyone to take it that they can manipulate into taking it.
And then Joe Rogan is the hero and Rockfin can talk about vaccines.
I'm like, it's too late, man.
All these people already took it.
They already, you know, agreed.
Where were you two and a half years ago?
And so that false hero shit, I just, I don't like it all.
I always make fun of it.
So Tripoli had me on his show a few years ago.
And then he was scared to put it on YouTube, understandably, even though I didn't say anything crazy.
I went and saw one of his comedy shows, two of his comedy shows, actually, too, as well.
But he really disappoints me, man.
You can't be this conspiracy guy and then always say, oh, it's the Jesuits and the Catholics that run everything and just be so soft on Jewish power and scared to say it.
It's like you can't be a comedian and a truther when you want to get gigs and you want to be in Hollywood and you want to not be and not be censored everywhere.
You experienced that.
Tell us about how getting blacklisted at all places.
You had to go to the post office or something like that, the libraries, just so you could have shows.
Yeah, that's why I'm not anti-government.
I see that as a gravel too, because so I, 2016, I'm like blue check marked, a couple hundred thousand view followers on Twitter, but I was very approved and mainstream.
I had done two Comedy Central specials.
I had just been one of the leads of a mainstream sitcom for three years.
Adam Sandler put me in three movies.
I'd been the lead of my own movie.
I was a headliner at all the clubs and colleges.
I was reped at CAA.
My manager was Principato Young.
Like I was, I wasn't like A-list like Kevin Hart or Bill Burr or anything like that.
You were on the track.
You were on the track to be.
Yeah, I was a headliner.
Like you would see my name in the same clubs headlining the week after like a Bill Burr or somebody.
No like Madison Square Garden or anything like that, but I've done the O2 arena and shit, opening for the Impractical Jokers and all that.
So I was very well liked.
And here's the thing that is so crazy is everyone, not everyone, but most people thought I was really nice and that I got along with everyone, but yet somehow I developed racism and anti-Semitism at 36.
It's just so stupid.
When they rolled out the trans kid thing, I openly was tweeting about it, like right at people doing it with blue check marks.
Like there's a guy named Jesse Thorne who, because of something his son said in the bathtub at five, was being put on hormone blockers.
And I was calling him out saying it was like child abuse and all that.
My agent manager said I had to delete and apologize.
I said no.
I got my entire tour got canceled.
And I was making, you know, really good money, went to zero.
My agent let me go.
My manager let me go.
All my all these Hollywood people all turned, like people that I was in their wedding party.
And I started like I was, so I started doing tree work again with my brother.
I just had a baby.
It was a frightening time.
And then my YouTube exploded and I'm getting like, you know, 10,000 live viewers at a point.
And then YouTube starts deleting me.
PayPal kicks me off.
YouTube kicks me off.
Vimeo, Venmo, Airbnb won't even let my wife rent out a property.
I'm not allowed on pod bean.
Everything's just deleting, deleting, deleting.
What has that done?
What has that done to your following?
Like you used to get hundreds of thousands of views, millions of views, I'm sure, but maybe every week.
Deplatforming works, right?
It's really taken a hit on your reach.
It works if you know it works if you accept it.
It's been a huge blessing.
So what happened was.
But aren't you getting less views than back then a few years ago?
I know I am.
I see everybody else is.
I'm getting less views, but I'm getting higher quality.
I've actually started developing an actual community with like solutions to some of these problems.
So I'd be touring and the clubs or the theaters, like I'd rent a theater for like five grand, pay for it, sell it out.
Three days before they cancel it over and over.
Like this whole idea that America is all about money is bullshit.
It's like I'd sell out a tour, they cancel everywhere.
So the one place I could, the two places that I could perform were public libraries because they have to follow the First Amendment.
Private doesn't.
And then listeners, barns and warehouses.
And so that was actually a beautiful time in my life.
It was scary as fuck, but, you know, I started having a real connection with my audience.
And so I taped a special in a woodworking shop in the heart of Portland.
It was called Reluctant Warlord.
And it's like hundreds of people there.
It was just showing that they can't actually stop you.
And so then I started getting letters in the P.O. box because the government actually protects free speech.
And so I've gotten tens of thousands of handwritten letters.
And so then we start our own social media.
It's appertariatimes.com, which is super clean.
It's not about politics or truth or shit.
It's just like what the world we want.
It's not about reacting to what they're doing.
It's like, you know, building homesteads, building farms, all this stuff.
And the more I do this and the more we make our own shit, like now I'm at unauthorized.tv where it's like five bucks a month, which isn't a lot, but it helps pay for our own private servers and our own infrastructure.
And I'm on BitChute and Odyssey and all that.
And so, yeah, my numbers, my mass like retard numbers, like all the people that watch Joe Rogan, like that all went down.
But I don't need them anyway.
Like now the quality of people that have seen the darkness, have seen some of these agendas, and they're like, now what?
Like what do we do now?
We just stay mad.
And so that's what I've done.
And it's been a blessing.
It's been hard.
It has been hard.
But because they kicked me out, I had to build my own thing.
And then I realized that you control what you build.
Like if you build something, quote unquote, they don't really do anything about it.
Like I, no one persecutes me in my home.
I have a farm.
I make my own cheese.
I have a well.
I have a greenhouse.
And my community is really great.
And the bear community is really doing wonderful things and it's growing Every day.
And so then I make sure that they're also free on BitChute in case anybody wants to watch it there.
But yeah, I think the future is all about decentralizing and building our own shit because I see the Zionist controlled nonsense machine.
I see it as like, it's growing in a sense.
Like I agree with you on that.
Like it's consolidating, but at the same time, it's becoming so nonsensical and so they infight so much that it's just like dumb.
It's like, I just don't see that working.
I see that it's going to continue to become dumber and dumber and dumber.
Like, I don't know.
I'm sure they're around, but I don't know anybody that is like, Trump will save us.
Like, I don't, I don't.
Oh, they're around.
Yeah, I mean, they're around, but I don't, I mean, really high-quality people five years ago were like, Trump's going to save us or like, Trump's going to drain the swamp.
I don't, way more people now are focused on their sheriff or they're focused on their local food supply or their family or their health.
And I see that as all very positive.
I see it all as positive too.
And I commend all the stuff you're doing about family and homesteading and building your own communities.
But I think you need to do both in parallel.
Definitely expose and try to wake people up to what they're doing.
Like, even if it's not Trump, I saw you were covering yesterday DeSantis and getting his awards at Zionist Organization of America.
Like that's they, that's who they think half of America thinks is like one of the greatest politicians.
And he's just a total slave to Sheldon Adelson.
But I wanted to finish up on the Tripoli thing.
I've been real critical of Tripoli because he knows that if he will say, if he says that it's Abrahamic conspiracy or a Judeo conspiracy or a Zionist conspiracy, he'll be just like you.
He'll be blacklisted from Hollywood.
He won't get the gigs.
He won't be invited to the comedy places.
You told me a lot on Joe Rogan.
I saw that, you know, his take quote-unquote attack on me, like when we did that thing and he was like telling me that he agreed with Rockfin.
He was rewarded a few months later by sitting down with the dwarf king himself.
And, you know, like what I'm doing to expose is to change the culture to make it okay to make fun of shit.
Like I've been really trying, and I know you do the same thing, and I think it's effective, to break gatekeepers where, you know, anything Joe Rogan says is great or anything Alex Jones says is for a patriotic America and to like use comedy and culture to break that where you can like see them as like I really think that I'm the reason people make fun of Joe Rogan's height now.
I think I changed that whole thing.
Like now people see him as short, which under me into a height supremacist.
I'll admit that.
Guilty.
Height supremacist.
Yeah.
And that shit works.
That shit works really well because that idol worship, like to get the young men to like be like, oh yeah, Joe Rogan's really helping us to like make them think for a second, like, is he short and gay?
Like that kind of takes the power down a little bit.
And that's kind of my role.
I liked your Andrew Tate thing saying Andrew Tate was gay because he does phone sex with men for money.
That was hilarious.
Yeah, and he brags about it.
He's like, all right, man, I was like, I was like, these mortals are showing the tits and they're not doing a good job.
So me and my brother, like, give me the keyboard.
And so we're talking dirty to the men and we're like, well, suck your cock.
And they're falling in love with us.
We're getting money and we're sprayed up hustling.
And I'm like, dude, you're talking dirty to guys for money.
And all these young men are like, because that's what I see.
I see it as ideological.
I see it as like materialism, victim consciousness, sterility, not accepting challenges.
Like these are the things that I try to highlight because I realize I have no power when it comes to the big boys.
I can talk shit all day long about Sheldon Adelson.
It doesn't appear like he gives a fuck or anybody cares.
So that's why I'm like, I'm trying to help people like arm themselves at their level so that those Zionist levers don't work because the levers are typically removal of like pleasures and comforts and the ease of life.
Like, you know, you're not, if you tour, you can go to all our beautiful Clubs and we'll pay you lots of money and you'll get free lollipops.
Like, that's how they do it.
It's very like Faustian.
And so I try to bring up the culture of like, accept that you might have to grow your own food.
Accept that your family is your wealth.
except that your local community can come together in times of struggle and you can survive.
And I think that's really what's going to be the difference when it comes to these big agendas hitting home.
Because people say do not comply.
I tell them do not rely.
Because when you don't rely, then you don't have to comply.
But if you rely, if that's the one place you get all your food and they say you have to put a chip in your forehead and suck a guy's dick, it's like, well, where are you going to get your food?
So that's why I'm trying to tell people how to get their food early.
Or don't listen to Andrew Tate telling you to take out debt and buy a fucking Bugatti.
And never pay it off.
I covered him.
I did a video on him too.
He's like, I met a Jewish guy and he told me get in debt and never pay it off if you don't have to.
And I'm thinking this is the advice you're giving everybody?
You saw that one too?
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
It's so about debt.
That's why I'm also like, I don't know how long this agenda has been going because 150 years ago, a lot of these quote unquote Jews were like magicians in a wagon.
Like, I don't know how long people have been listening to this crazy shit for.
Like, you know, get people in debt.
Start branding.
Not that long ago, people were still using gold and silver and everybody had a farm.
And I think that during those times, it was much less, you know, gravelly in my opinion.
Here's some gravel for you.
Here's Deuteronomy 15, 6 from the Torah.
For the Lord thy God blesseth thee, the Jews, as he promised thee, and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow.
And thou shalt reign over many goyim.
Nations is goyim.
But they shall not reign over thee.
There's your money lender commandment straight from the Torah.
I know.
And I have an issue with that.
That's one of the passages that I haven't because money lending is war.
It's a form of war.
And so the Jews, according to that, they aren't actually breaking the law if they lend to non-Jews.
And so I agree with you on that.
That's why I call myself Islamo-Christian because I prefer the Koran's take on debt where it's just all bad.
I don't think that the special boys get to, you know, I like how the Koran handles debt where it's just debt is bad.
Like, debt is an act of war.
It's like a form of financial sodomy.
Because I have actually analyzed that because I don't like that either.
I don't like that.
And by the way, what is the?
See, that's the thing is it's like, so it's creating that binary where it's like you're the special boys.
You get to go to the nations of the Gentile, put them in debt, and that's how you enslave them.
And of course I'm not for that.
And so that's why I infuriate a lot of Christians because I'm just not going to back that.
I'm not just going to blindly follow things I know are bad.
Because I know that debt is how, like if you look at American slavery, it's all about college debt.
You get your youth.
You know, they say I'm a cult leader for $5 a month.
But college is like you put people in unpayable debt to learn lies, hate their skin, drink alcohol, do drugs, have abortions.
You're like in these little like warehouses and fucking bunk beds and shit.
Like they're breaking their minds.
And then you can't default on the debt.
And here's a problem I had towards the end of my relationship with Steven Crowder.
Is he was offering me my own show with CRTV.
And then, you know, they gave me the talk.
I can't talk about Tava Pharmaceuticals out of Israel.
I can't talk about the Mulan.
I'm like, fuck this.
And another thing I learned was that CRTV got all their money from student debt.
These quote unquote Christians where I'm like, oh, Mark Levin.
You're saying Christians run CRTV.
I thought it was Levin that owned that.
Was it?
According to Crowder, it was some rich Christian group.
And he got all his money from, uh, from, uh,
selling student debt which is literally slavery and so I was like wait what because that's one of the biggest problems American youth are facing is uh like I'm all about forgiving debt like I would I have no resentment at all for that if every if if a pen was signed and all the youth of America didn't have to pay college debt I would be absolutely for that because I think that's gonna make people desperate and weak and not have families.
And, you know, I think it's really fucking evil.
I mean, Christianity outlawed usury for a time.
Islam prohibits usury, but the Jews, it's open seizing.
Doesn't that seem a little sneaky and suspicious to you?
Yeah, it's super sneaky.
Yeah, that's that's my point.
Is Christianity practiced like how I practice it?
And I understand your points.
Like, obviously, the way it's being done, and I'm not, I'm trying not to do the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Like, I do understand what you're saying.
It's like, well, communism's never succeeded.
I get that.
But Christian cultures and nations for like 1,500 years outlawed usury until the Vatican slowly started bringing it in.
And I'm sure you've researched this about the Vatican's relationship with the Rothschilds and all that shit.
And that's fairly recent.
Like, you went to jail in America for doing usury in the early 20th century.
So that's why I don't think they did 1,900 years just waiting around sneaking.
And then all of a sudden the battery emerges.
I think it's been a recent rebranding.
And then, of course, like the rewritings of the Bible and the Schofield Bible and absurd interpretations.
But I'm totally cool.
Like some of my best friends are like heathens.
Like as long as they're not liars to me or and I know they're pursuing truth and they're like good people, I don't judge people for their beliefs.
You know, because I feel like people gravitate towards beliefs.
I think that if you stay, you know, in the realm of nothing matters, you know, you know what I'm saying.
I'm kind of rambling a little bit.
So the problem that Jews have with Christianity is that they say Jesus is a deity, that Jesus is divine.
He's God.
And this goes into the Trinity as well.
So when I see you saying that Jesus isn't God, they're two different people.
It makes sense to me.
And I see your logic and where you're coming from.
But also, you're headed in the direction to more of, from what I see, is more of a like Noahide compliant following of Jesus.
And I think that both the Christians and the Jews are going to slowly start to meet in the middle and acknowledge like, okay, Jesus was actually our Messiah, but he's not really God.
And so I see why you say that because it doesn't even say the Trinity in the Bible.
And there is lots of verses that say he's praying to God, so he's not the same person, stuff like that.
But also Islam believes in Jesus as well.
I'm just here to do my father's work.
I just see Jesus as like the original controlled opposition.
Sorry, say that again.
Oh, yeah, like I'm here to do my father's will, you know, all that stuff.
There's stuff in there where I'm like, I don't see how it's one thing to believe in the Trinity, which I'm cool with, but I don't see how the anger at someone questioning it is valid.
And so as far as Jesus is being a controlled opposition, I am less likely now as a Christian to follow the Noahide laws than when I was a science, gay little Hollywood fucking, you know, nihilist.
Like back then, it would have been way easier to convince me to do something that self-destructive or that absurd than now.
Like now I won't even, I never wore a mask, like not once.
The one time I wore a mask was at the birth of one of my sons because I was the rule I made was I'll wear a mask if I would have before this shit went down.
So like I'm personally way less compliant now that I think about Jesus' teachings than when I thought that was all stupid and the big bang.
Like I used to have a cosmology around science and looking back, it's like embarrassing, you know, that everything exploded from nothing.
And I mean, that's, that's a religion in itself that worships like George Floyd and abortion.
And, you know, your first breath is your original sin of carbon.
And now pay the deities and the state money for your carbon.
It's, it's literally like a middle ages version of the worst type of Christianity they're trying to do with climate change, where it's like, yeah, like you're you breathing is your sin, and so pay us money.
It's fucking bullshit.
The first most important commandment of the seven Noahide laws is to have no idol worship, to worship the one true God.
And according to the rabbis, that's their God, and Jesus is God.
So I see what you mean by that, but I still think that's, you know, they target Christians for Noahides, but I don't want to get off into Noahides.
I wanted to share this with you: the Hollywood, my face is frozen.
I look like a reto.
Oh, shoot, shoot, shoot.
That's all right.
Hold on.
As long as your audience doesn't go too hard on my closed-eyed soy face, that's fine because my mouth is open, which is infuriating.
Oh, no.
How long has that been going on?
Let me call you right back.
Let me call you right back.
All right, cool.
All right.
Okay.
Try to stay unfrozen.
I will.
Okay.
I wanted to share you this.
This is a hilarious joke.
Jim Gaffigan.
I don't know.
Do you know Jim Gaffigan?
You ever?
No, I know him personally.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is a great joke.
If you haven't seen this, you'll like this one.
Sure, some of you are looking at me like, hey, Jim, you look like a former Hitler youth.
What are your views on Judaism?
I'd like to see you destroy your career tonight.
Well, I'm not frightened.
I'll tell you what I think.
I think Judaism is perfect.
there's nothing wrong with that and i'd like to be in more feature films And look, they're all laughing and they all love it because it's not a secret.
They dominate Hollywood.
But if we say it, they call us evil anti-Semites.
No, they secretly watch us.
I can tell.
I can tell that dudes like us are watched by because they fucking know.
Norm McDonald, 15, 20 years ago, it was longer than that on weekend update.
He did a bit about the guy, Marlon Brown, like, hey, Marlon Brando said that the Jews dominate Hollywood.
And so they fired him.
And then he apologized and they sent him back to work.
It's like so obvious that it's true.
But, you know, I see it now as they don't get to control entertainment.
Like when you say Jews, when anybody says Jews run the media, it's currently true, but why?
Like, why don't more people just make media?
You know, like you can do that.
Like, that's why we started making Bertaria Times.
It wasn't to compete with Jews.
It was just to be like, what media would we want to read?
And the media we want to read would be about homesteading and family and interesting shit, you know?
And making fun of grabblers.
What is this?
I saw you talking about this guy.
This guy's name is Ira.
How can I watch a video of him?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we invented Ira Roth.
That's a character.
I need to see this.
I saw your other one with like the Jewish producer talking about you need piles of shoes to really sell it.
I played that several times on the show.
That was great.
Yeah, Pol Pot.
He never sold his genocide because of branding.
He's like, I kill a million of people town.
It's like, but you don't sell it, baby.
Need a little girl in a red dress.
And that's really how it is.
Like, I know these people, and that's why I don't see it as God-loving people.
I see it as a lot of these people, their idol is money.
And it doesn't scare me at all.
It doesn't even, I'm just like, what a sad existence.
They're just like, how to get more money, how to get more special boy pats on the head.
Like, there's a cartoon in there that you might like where, because I had these experiences.
I'd have super Jewish, like, quote-unquote Jewish, whatever you want to call them, grabbler agents and shit.
And I'd like boost their self-esteem because they're so self-hating.
They'd be like, oh, man, I have since banned horrible posture, my diarrhea, my kombucha.
And I'd be like, dude, you're doing great, man.
You're handsome.
And they'd be like, really?
I'm handsome.
And these people are worth like $100 million.
And that's why they did fuck with my life a bit for a while.
But it was always my choice.
They made my life easy and sinful.
And I accepted it.
And I was a special boy myself.
I drank too much, hooked up with too many girls, was too selfish.
And so I fell right into the hands of people that want to live that way.
And as soon as I didn't want to live that way anymore, it was up to me to build an alternative.
Let me read this.
If they want to make help for themselves, it's like that's their choice.
I'm going to read out some of these super chats.
Some of them are for you.
I am Amalek.
Are you Amalek?
Am I Amalek?
Yeah.
No.
I don't even know what that means.
Okay.
You got to start watching some of my videos.
I'll send you my video on Amalek.
That's the biblical enemy of the Jews.
Anyway, I am Amalek.
What?
Is Amalek trying to hurt me?
Yeah.
They will consider you Amalek.
I've seen you attacked by the ADL, tons of the Daily Mail saying that you're going to have a new Ruby Ridge or something, that you're some kind of crazy militiaman or something.
But here we go.
Thank you for helping my awakening process, Owen Benjamin.
You're calling at the supremacist Zionist.
It woke me up to many of the gatekeepers.
I see through.
Under the Mosaic law, there was no remission of sin except through the shedding of blood.
If a man committed certain sins, he must bring a priest, a lamb, a bullock, a goat, turtle doves.
The priest would lay his hands upon the animal, transferring the sin.
Does Owen believe that?
Do you believe in the Abrahamic covenant where he told them to chop off the ends of their dicks and do this crazy cut up the animals thing?
You think that really happened?
I don't.
I don't.
I get why people do, and I'm not bummed about it, but I'm not into dick cutting or animal sacrifice.
I'm not into blood.
I'm into killing animals for food.
So, again, I'm not a great representation of hardcore Christianity, but I see it more as New Testament shit.
And I don't feel like I'm vulnerable to the grabbler, you know, psyop.
So that's why it doesn't really bother me.
But yeah, I'm not, you know, like when Jews beat the shit out of a chicken because they like have sin, like, no, that's stupid.
I make fun of Jews all the time for that.
Like, I have a lot of Jews who listen to me who find it funny because I think a lot of them know a lot of this shit is stupid.
Where it's like you beat a chicken for your sins.
Like, dude, that's crazy.
That's a fucking chicken.
That's the same type of scapegoat atone.
They do that on Yom Kippur.
The Jesus story is a retelling of Yom Kippur.
Can explain it more later.
Christianity was designed not for the Jews, but was designed to destroy the great European powers.
In particular, the Romans, it was designed not to unite and solidify as the Old Testament has done for the Jews, but designed to divide, confuse, and destroy the Romans.
Okay.
Ali Baba says, Adam is a soothing beam of light in the dark and gloomy world of alt media, while Owen Benjamin created the song Sweet Palestine.
Nice.
What's that?
That's hilarious.
Sweet Palestine.
Oh, back when I used to think that Muslims were trying.
That's the thing.
You can say whatever you want about me, but I'm always been genuine.
I used to legitimately think Muslim terrorists just wanted our freedom and that Israel was a beacon of democracy in the Middle East.
I thought that.
I now realize that's not true.
I've seen you talk about this before.
I saw you.
I haven't seen the song, but I saw you apologizing and saying that you were a different person back then or something.
Well, I was just wrong about that.
It's like if anybody doesn't change over the years or learn stuff or adapt, they're lying.
Like they're just, they're agenda bots.
It's like, if someone has a package and they're like, I'm this guy, and years go by and it's exactly the same guy.
That guy is just, it's a package.
It's a front.
It's a corporation.
And I'm a living man.
And so, yeah, I coming out of Hollywood and thinking, and all these conservatives swarmed me with love.
You know, they're like, because they wanted a Hollywood guy.
They wanted you.
Yeah.
You were the leftist turn right-winger.
And then you turned on all of them.
That's why it was so beautiful.
You realize they're all Zionists.
Yeah, and so whoever that commenter is, I did more to reveal their agenda by being in their world authentically than people that didn't.
So it's like if he, the fact that I was offered money, I was offered a Prager U show, a Crowder show.
Like, I was treated like royalty by these people, and I genuinely thought they were doing good because they were able to utter truths that I never heard in Hollywood.
Like, I just become a dad, and so I, my opinion on abortion was shifting fast.
And it was like to hear someone say that abortion was wrong was like euphoric to me because I hadn't heard it at all in Hollywood, and I never even thought about it.
And to uh, and that there was good and evil and stuff like that, it was great.
And so, but as the spells kept coming out, I don't cuck and I don't lie.
And so, when Crowder was like so into me because I was standing up to trans children abuse, and then I'm like, you, I tracked it back, I did research, and I'm like, almost autistically, we'll hammer the same thing.
Um, it was from Teva Pharmaceuticals out of Israel, and all the hormones were coming out of an Israeli company, and I wasn't allowed to talk about that publicly with them, and so that was the end of that.
And the Pritzker family, too, a lot of it's pushed by the Pritzkers, yeah.
And I wasn't, uh, I wasn't ever tempted by money, and a lot of these uh, trolls, I'm not gonna call them trolls, whatever, they might be misguided, but these people that want to be like, oh, I saw Owen on Prigger U, what a shill.
I guarantee 99.99% of them couldn't turn down large amounts of money for what they believe to be true, so they can go fuck themselves.
You could have stayed in Hollywood and bit your tongue and towed the line, you could have, and then you did the same thing with Zionist right-wing media.
You could have been a star there, you could have been in all the big popular online circles, and you did you didn't stick with it.
So, I commend you for that for sure.
Here's another one: I am Amalek says, When I try to share your videos, people call them anti-Semitic because of the names.
Okay, well, I don't do anything that I try to not purposely have shocking names, Mr. Massa.
What's the deal with turpentine?
What's the deal of turpentine, Owen?
It's a meme, right?
There's a meme about you in Turpentine, yeah, which is retarded because it's it's clearly a good medicine.
It's like it's so funny when trolls get a hold of certain things, like they're such special boys, where they're like, Owen Benjamin's crazy, he drinks fucking turpentine.
It's called Pine Spirits, it's a natural thing, and it's in small doses.
It's uh, it's a healing thing.
And if you, I'm not going to give medical advice, but it's the main ingredient in Vic's vapor rub.
If you read Merrick Merck books from you know the early 20th century before Big Pharma bought it out, like Pine Spirits, which are commonly called turpentine, not the shit you get in art stores, but um, it cures a lot of ailments.
Small amounts of turpentine is a turpentine cleanse where you put a little turpentine in a uh sugar cube and a lot of gut parasites die from it.
And uh, yeah, if people want to think that's crazy, that's that's cool, but they're they're chomping down poison, you know, and they think it's medicine.
Okay, I didn't realize that was a troll one.
Uh, Odd CV says, Jews in Judaism is about two things: whom to hate and chasing the silver shekel.
Can Owen play our favorite song on the piano?
You got a piano there in front of you?
You're a master pianist, right?
I am indeed.
Um, what do they want to hear?
Uh, I don't know, I've got no idea.
I know you got visitors, and I don't want to keep you.
Go ahead.
Hello, there you go.
I got a Jew song.
There you go.
Thank you.
It's called Having a Get If you could only put the mask on when you do it.
So, where can I watch this guy?
I want to see Ira.
This character has already got my attention.
All right, go to animators.
Go to animators.
I'm there.
You got this many mountain bear?
You got this many Animators.
Oh, dude, I'm super productive.
The whole community is productive.
Oh, there we go.
The one in the middle is about the one that Rockfin hated.
But if you go up and then just start scrolling through, I'll show you a good Ira.
No, you had it right there.
You see those arrows?
Okay, right here.
Yeah, those.
If you go, if you hit those, we'll find an Ira.
This guy on the piano?
Yeah, but there's better ones if you're calling one Ira.
Down syndrome Pope.
Oh, man.
Yeah, because it's, oh, yeah, if you want to watch that, that one's pretty funny.
It's basically just asking all the obvious questions about it's just like a retard could literally be more Christian than the Pope.
Okay, you see this?
This is something I've covered.
This is the twin serpents that they have here.
Jesus actually represents.
I'm going to go James true on you a little bit here, okay?
The Jews consider Jesus Satan.
That's the big secret.
Except they actually worship Satan in a way.
So they believe in two messiahs.
It's not the Trinity.
It's very Freemasonic, dualistic, as you said in one of your videos.
So this is the twin serpents.
The first one is Jesus, and the other one is Moshiach ben Joseph, who Joseph in Genesis is rejected by his brothers and goes and rules over in Egypt.
That's the template that they're following in Jesus to go rule the Gentiles and to theologically conquer them.
So that's what the twin serpents actually represent there.
But we'll play.
I don't want to hold Jesus on a crunt anymore.
It makes me sad.
Why does it make you sad, Corky Pope?
Because I love him.
He freed me.
Why do I want to look at him in pain?
Well, Corky Pope, it's because the pain is what set us free.
No, it's Method's death free.
He just won't go with incarnate.
The method he delivered.
No, no, it's just pain.
God damn it.
It's the blood.
I know why you're very scary.
Can I take my giant penis hat off?
This doesn't make any sense to me.
How can we...
In fact, it makes it a lot harder.
We're the largest landowner in the whole world.
Jesus said, Call no man father.
Why is everyone calling me father?
Jesus had to have a beard.
Why did nobody around me have any beard?
Jesus said, Be fruitful and multiply.
Why are we all a bunch of pedophiles who never actually make any children?
Jesus said, titled.
You know, be fruitful and multiply was for the Jews.
Actually, Jesus says, I think it's Jesus.
It's New Testament for sure that you don't know when the day and the hour is going to come.
So basically, don't be pregnant because your kids are going to suffer.
So I don't know if I just agree with that.
Who is this?
It's like the black Pope that's telling him what to do or something.
I don't know.
I was just ripping it.
I'll just riff and then animators will just make them into cartoons.
This is great.
It don't matter.
Why do we have a very hierarchy of cards?
This wasn't scripted.
Right?
That's none of them are scripted.
I riff all of them.
Yeah.
How absurd is it to say that, oh, they killed God, too?
It's like, oh, they're God killers.
What kind of pathetic God gets killed by the Jews?
Like, it's pretty sad, right?
Pretty bad.
I feel the same way.
I know Christians get mad at me for that, but I'm like, if the Jews can get, and then they're like, no, but he chose to die, but he didn't die.
I'm like, that's not how I interpret it.
But anyway, anyway, check out Corky.
Why would Christians like E. Michael Jones hate the Jews or blame the Jews for killing Jesus?
They wouldn't be saved if they didn't kill Jesus.
It doesn't even make sense.
You should be thanking them for following God's plan.
Right.
It's very odd.
Arnold.
And Bishop and Monteneer, they priest.
Where is it?
This is ridiculous.
Why is everyone calling me father?
Well, Corky Pope, it's because they're all ridiculously stupid people or lying.
I just want to play in the field.
I love his rainbow flags on his.
Yeah, yeah.
It's gotten title.
It's pretty wild.
Sorry.
All right.
Oh, and Ira will make.
Say it.
Say it again.
Ira.
Ira will make you laugh.
Like later, if you just go through these cartoons, they're fucking funny.
There's a lot of super funny ones.
Which one's that?
Oh, that's Ira.
Is this Alex Jones?
Will he eat your ass?
Yeah, yeah, that's Alex Jones.
I don't even remember this one.
I will eat my neighbors.
I'm not letting my kids die.
I'm just going to be honest.
My superpowers being honest?
Oh, that's his actual voice.
I won't have to for a few years.
You think I like?
All right.
If people want to check out, I'll watch the rest of these on my own time.
And if you guys want to check it out, what's this?
Unbearablesmedia.com to check all these out.
Oh, and I was really happy to finally be able to sit down and chat with you.
I appreciate you for coming on.
Same, man.
It was fun.
All right.
And hopefully, I know you're a busy guy, but if you could just watch a few of my videos, I'm sure you're going to get it from your chat too.
Adam's an antichrist.
Don't listen to him.
He's a Jew.
You're going to hear all of that stuff.
You know I'm an autistic researcher.
Check it out for yourself.
Yeah, no, I don't judge based on that.
It's if you're like lying.
And I can tell you're not a liar.
So I don't judge.
Thank you.
Yeah, because a lot of the people that are the most hardcore, like, kneel before Christ or you're going to hell.
Those are usually the ones that are up to the worst shit.
And from my experience, they're the ones that are hiding.
And that's why I think blaspheming God, that's what it is.
It's when you take the quote unquote the Lord's name in vain.
It's when you hide your evil behind the name God.
And it's almost like the Holocaust where it's like, it's like a, it's like an invisibility cloak to pull shit off that's bad.
And so I don't, I don't care about any of that.
I've been through the ringer by all these people.
And I, you know, my hometown, it was like all the priests were like pedophiles and shit.
And the fact that I have any faith or religion at all is pretty miraculous given how cynical I used to be.
Well, that's if it's working for you to each their own.
But I just encourage you to look a little bit more into it.
And I don't blame, I don't, I didn't know this stuff just a few years ago.
When you were watching my videos a few years ago, I did not know this stuff.
This is all just from deep reading tons of books and total autistic research non-stop.
But I will let you go.
You want to plug your sites where people can find you when you do your streams and stuff?
That kind of thing?
Yeah, I do my stream live every day at 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time typically, and that's unauthorized.tv or there's a lot of free sites if you want to just check it out first.
You can go to libertylinks.io slash Owen Benjamin live because we keep having to adjust what links they are because I keep getting banned from shit.
But, you know, I'm on like VK and Telegram and Rumble and Odyssey and all that shit.
And then bitshoot.com slash Owen Benjamin and P.O. Box 490 Sandpoint, Idaho, 83864 is the most protected way of sending me correspondence because, you know, the government has the post office.
And that's one reason why I'm not buying in.
Because that's another thing is I bought in for a very short amount of time to like anarcho-capitalism that the state is why, you know, why everything's bad.
The government, you know, they're coming for you.
And I found the exact opposite.
I think that the government is one of the only places that isn't horribly compromised by Israeli banking interests.
The government?
Well, the post office, libraries, zoning commission, sheriffs.
Did you not see?
Hold on.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but did you not see the scandal with the post office spying recently?
How dare you, Adam Green?
Hold on, hold on.
I'm the black pillar, dude.
I'm the black pillar.
I'm sorry, but here's a piece of shit.
Not the post office.
Dude, this is like destroying Santa Claus for you right here.
If I wouldn't have a giant ad, USPS admits to spying on American social media posts.
Report.
I don't know.
I think they're trying.
See, I think the Grabbers are trying to get people to turn on the post office.
This is a false flag on the post office.
I think it's a false flag.
Yeah, I really do.
I love the post office.
The only general I would fall into war is the postmaster general.
And God bless the post office.
Okay.
All right.
We'll end it on there.
Appreciate you for coming on.
Everybody, let us know what you think in the comments.
And hopefully we can get Owen back on again sometime soon.
And I will see you guys all again very soon.
I'm going to have Kevin Barrett on, The Muslim, to discuss his blog about our last talk about Christianity and Islam is controlled opposition.
That's coming up.
So stay tuned, and I will see you guys again very soon.