Killstream Christianity Debate | Adam Green (Know More News) vs. Myles Poland (Godcast)
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Miles, why don't you introduce yourself to the audience who've not been on the kill stream before?
I have not.
My name is Miles Polland.
I'm the host of the Godcast, available at the RightStuff.biz every Sunday.
Usually we put the podcast out around noon.
We are a Christian mission dedicated to evangelizing the dissident right, whether that be the alt-right, white nationalists, neo-Nazis, neoconfederates, you name the game.
We are more than willing to bring the gospel.
We are the only group of people on the planet actually bringing the gospel to these groups of individuals explicitly.
I also do a lot of audio work for a group called Antelope Hill, a publisher also targeting the dissident right.
They have a lot of great works out.
If you've ever heard of the Transgender Industrial Complex or Faith and Heritage, for instance, those are both books put up by Antelope Hill, and I will be releasing an audiobook for them called Hitler by Wyndham Lewis.
If you have any interest in sort of the circumstances that led to the rise of the Third Reich, that audiobook will be available on Monday, which is, I believe, is the anniversary of the Beer Hall push.
Very good.
Now, what's the name of that guy?
That is Hitler by Wyndham Lewis, available at antelopehillpublishing.com.
Available Monday.
Now, Adam, why don't you say something so I can pin you to the screen?
Can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear you.
And I'm in the wrong side again.
I don't know how I did that.
Testing, testing, testing.
What's up, Ralph?
Thanks for having me on.
I'll just switch it over.
What's up, man?
It's good to hear you.
How you been?
I've been doing well.
All right.
No, fuck.
Why can't I find?
Oh, God.
Let me get this window over here.
There we go.
I didn't want to have to do it that way, but I did.
All right.
Now, let me get this.
Oh, there we go.
Okay.
I'll figure it out sooner or later.
Now, why don't you introduce yourself?
You've been on the kill stream many times, of course, but that's how we're going to do it.
So introduce yourself, Adam.
My name is Adam Green.
My website and the name that I go by is No More News.
And I've been exposing Zionism online, making videos for about six or seven years now.
This is going to be my third slash third and a half blood sports debate that I'm excited for.
And I'm going to be taking the side that Christianity is not only false and a delusion, but a subversive deception tonight.
Now, you know what?
So would you like to go first?
I mean, I don't know.
I was sitting here trying to think who should really go first.
Do you want to go first?
I mean, Miles, you asked for the debate.
So maybe if you really, I don't know.
It's up to you guys.
I don't really care who goes first.
I'm fine with either or.
I would like to say, like, neither of us, we're not Destiny.
We're not Vaush.
I don't think we need to do the ankle biting, like, let you say two words and then jump in.
Well, actually, we're both adults.
So I'm perfectly fine.
If you want to lay out your case in its entirety, you know how that usually, you know how we usually do it on the kill stream?
If it goes that way, it goes that way.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes they don't.
We've had many respectful debates on here.
And then we've had quite a few that weren't as well.
Right.
If it goes that way.
Now, if it gets so bad that people can't talk and stuff like that, eventually I'll say, hey, come on.
I don't want to give you a heart attack, Ralph.
Exactly.
You know, come on, I can only do so much.
Fred Sanford.
God, I love fucking Sanford.
So anyway.
Well, I can start with what I'm curious about because Miles asked for the debates.
I'm curious which videos of mine he's seen talking about Christianity and how familiar he is with my arguments on why I think it's a deception.
I watched your video with David Scurbina and I also watched your video with, was it Robert Price is his name?
Yeah.
I watched those two videos.
The Scurbina video was very embarrassing for Scurbina.
You seemed a lot more informed about it than he did, which is kind of surprising.
I also was not terribly impressed with Price's presentation.
A lot of what he's saying was sort of mainstream back in like the 60s and 70s, but scholarship has really moved on since then.
And what made you want to challenge me to a debate?
Well, I know speaking with Gator behind the scenes, he had mentioned that the Killstream was looking to do something religion-wise.
They Haven't had a big religious knockdown drag out fight in a while.
So I volunteered for that.
And he also mentioned that you had been on the show and we had just done a review of your interview with Scripina.
And so he mentioned, hey, why not get Adam Green on?
I said, great.
Sounds good.
Interesting.
I had no idea.
I figured that maybe somebody told you that I was saying Christianity wasn't real.
And/or you watched one of my videos and you decided to take me on.
But thank you, Gator, for facilitating a certain, you know, I've been putting out lots of videos.
I've done a whole series exposing how Christianity has been used to deceive and subvert the Gentile world and fulfill the prophecies of the Jews and the Torah.
And people were all suggesting that Jay Dyer debate me, but Ralph asked him a couple weeks ago if he would do it.
And he said no, didn't want to step up to the challenge.
So I'm glad somebody is willing to do it, even if it's somebody who I can't see his face.
And is this your real name?
Are you anonymous?
I'm anonymous on the internet.
Okay.
So your name isn't Miles Poland.
It could be anything.
Could be Miles.
Who knows?
Could be.
Well, that's interesting.
Well, then, right away, I'm assuming that you're not even familiar with my whole thesis and my arguments and all the proof that I put.
Well, that's enough.
Okay, you know what?
You've convinced me.
I was already thinking a minute ago because you've come out.
You've got your own thought, like, well, you know, theory on Christianity.
Why don't you just lay it out there?
What's your thesis?
Sure, I'll go ahead and mute up.
No, no, no.
Adam, Adam, let him, let's, let you lay it out there.
Go ahead.
Me?
Yeah.
The thesis is that the Jews created an antithetical counterpart religion to dupe the Gentiles into following that would fulfill their prophecies and basically conquer and Judaize the world.
And Christianity and Jesus filled this role perfectly.
In the Old Testament, their goal with the Messiah and their goal in general was to basically subjugate the Gentiles, rule the world.
That was the role of the Messiah for the Jews.
And instead, they went with the first coming suffering Messiah, Moshiach ben Joseph archetype, fictional character, fictional story, convinced the Gentile world to follow it, and then controlled their opposition and it fulfilled their prophecies of persecuting them and then turning them into the advocates.
That's how we see they've used Christianity as their greatest instrument to conquer the world, basically.
And even the top rabbis in Judaism, Maimonides, says this, that Christianity is the fulfillment of prophecy.
It's preparing the world for the messianic age.
We can see with the hundreds of millions of Zionists who is the greatest ally to the Jews and to Israel, fighting their wars, sending them weapons, believing that they're chosen by God, that they're God's special children, that we're blessed if we bless them and cursed if we curse them.
Our politicians are going and bowing down to their walls.
It's pretty apparent that Christianity is the weapon, the instrument that the Jews have used to seize power from the Gentile world.
And I've gone way deep into it, showing Jews bragging about this, revealing bits and parts of their esoteric secrets.
Some of it comes from the Kabbalah, some of it's the Torah decoded, some of it in the Talmud.
And I've been studying what Messianic Jews have been saying, and they're basically revealing it.
And ultimately, Christians are just a spin-off, controlled opposition, antithetical Jewish sect that is used to subvert us and used to fulfill their prophecies.
You're like the Washington General Siddharth Bo Shot.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I've used that analysis.
Really?
Because that was the first one that I actually didn't hear you use that.
But that was the first thing that came to my mind, honestly.
I know you're a basketball fan.
Alien dialectic.
The problem reaction solution.
The obvious controlled opposition.
That skills me that we both thought.
All right.
Go ahead.
Independently.
Go ahead.
Now, go ahead.
Do you have more to say, Adam?
Or was that the end of your time?
No, go ahead.
Continue.
Go ahead.
Dying to respond.
Well, if you want to lay out your complete case, by all means, I'd be more than happy to respond to it.
However, we want to play that.
Yeah, that's fine.
Go ahead and go deeper.
I've got a playlist.
I'll pin it back to the top of my Twitter with maybe like 10 or more videos outlining all of this stuff, going in depth, showing the source material, showing all the clips.
Like I just posted a clip last night of an Orthodox rabbi basically saying that Christianity is a good thing and that it has spread the Torah around the world.
It has made the world look to the Jews towards salvation.
And then, you know, because Ralph titled the debate, Is it Subversive or Is It Sacred?
They've conquered the world, Judaized the world.
It's like a Jewish cult has taken over the world, even with Islam and with Christians and the Jews, the originators of it.
And all the religious-motivated wars among many times fellow European people killing each other over disagreements and interpretation.
The subversive tenets of Christianity, like love your enemy, pray for your persecutors, the idea of giving away your belongings and following Jesus and kind of valuing like poverty and almost weakness and self-deprecation and martyrdom.
It teaches in the New Testament to follow the Jewish Messiah, the king of the Jews, and even over your own children.
Put Jesus over your own family.
And that's just got the whole world worshiping essentially a Jewish superhero, miracle man.
Now, Miles, would you like to respond?
Sure.
So, would you agree?
In David Scribina's response to an article on countercurrents, he laid out the case that his Jesus myth theory is based upon a quote-unquote lack of evidence.
So he laid it out lack of evidence, or if Jesus existed, we should have evidence.
We have no evidence.
Ergo, it was made up.
And ergo, it's a conspiracy.
Do you agree with that?
Well, I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy just because of its lack of evidence.
And I haven't read that article, but is there a lack of evidence?
I'd say absolutely.
The gospels are not reliable.
They're anonymous, uncritical, not dated, not sourced with the method of their sourcing.
It's just miraculous, like basically theological advocacy.
And then the external documents referring to Jesus, there's nothing until many decades later with Tacitus and like, what is it, the 110s, 114, 15, something like that?
I mean, that's almost, I mean, it's over 115 years after Jesus was born.
These are not eyewitness.
And what we would expect if the Son of God was really walking the earth and doing these miracles is that there would be writings about this everywhere.
How did God not find a way to better express his message than gospels written decades later by people who weren't even eyewitnesses?
And nobody else noticed.
It's just there is a lack of evidence.
Scholars have recognized this.
Okay.
Are you familiar at all with Pompeii and Pompey's destruction at all?
Are we going to do the argument like, oh, there's more evidence for Jesus than Homer or Pompey or Caesar?
Because that's just a false equivocation.
And just because there's bad evidence for something else doesn't mean that that doesn't prove that Jesus is real.
Plus, why are we even having to rely on ancient Jewish fairy tales of miracles and allegorical nonsense?
If God was real and he wanted to speak to us, he wouldn't use ancient texts.
He would be able to speak to every one of us with clarity, show himself.
This idea that he's hiding and you just have to believe in the Jewish prophecies, otherwise, you're going to burn in hell.
It's ridiculous.
It's absurd.
It's juvenile.
Well, that doesn't actually answer the question.
And secondly, by any normal historical methods, Jesus rose from the grave.
In fact, the overwhelming majority of New Testament historians nowadays are conservative.
And that means they believe that the tomb was empty, quite frankly.
So they believe four things.
One, that Jesus existed.
That much is obvious.
Who's they right now?
I'm not sure.
The entire field of New Testament history and studies.
Oh, a bunch of Christians.
No, actually.
yeah, it is mostly Christian theologians and biblical scholars.
They're mostly Christian.
Okay.
So what do you say about atheists like Bart Ehrman?
That's the Christian's favorite go-to guy.
And I think that he is propping up a lie.
I think he's a Jesus Yahweh gatekeeper.
So you're alleging a conspiracy on the part of a well-qualified scholar who lays out his case in very clear terms over the course of dozens of books.
He's a professor at a university.
But you don't believe the rest of the stuff he says.
You should read the rest of his books where he says Jesus isn't like he believes there was some character and that may have been crucified, but he doesn't believe any of the myths or any of the other stuff and proves how it's all fraudulent and forged.
Actually, no, he doesn't.
He gets an enormous amount of stuff wrong that actually breaks with the rest of New Testament historians.
Well, I think he's wrong.
Okay, I think he's wrong on some things too.
But again, as the leading prominent skeptic, even he affirms that Jesus existed, which again is not a matter.
It's really not up for debate at this point, that the man Jesus of Nazareth existed.
It totally is up for debate.
No, it's not up to death.
That's why you're here debating it.
And that's why you're here.
Why is somebody else?
Nobody else wants to take on this subject.
There's been big debates too with people that have like the books that I read learning about these things, those authors have done big debates and they win every time, hands down.
No, they don't.
Can you name five qualified people who believe in the Jesus myth who are still working today?
Like I said, the majority of institutions that are like...
I'm asking for five relevant, currently working New Testament scholars who believe that Jesus of Nazareth did not exist.
Well, you're appealing to authority as if the majority can't be wrong, for one.
That's a fallacy.
No, I'm not sure.
Number two, there are many more than five scholars that are questioning the historicity of Jesus.
Working in that field.
Excuse me?
Working in that field.
Working in the field of New Testament history.
I will give you that it is a minority, but 30 years ago, it was a radical idea that the patriarchs didn't exist, Moses, Abraham, all of those.
And now that's accepted as the consensus.
No, it's not.
It is.
No, it's not.
Not with dogmatic religious people.
No.
Because you can't concede any of this stuff.
I mean, think to be a Christian, all of the magical, ridiculous stuff you have to believe from the Old Testament.
Like, do you believe in Yom Kippur and Passover and the Exodus?
Yeah, absolutely.
You believe Moses threw down his staff and it literally turned to a snake.
Absolutely.
You believe that Adam and Eve, Eve was created from the rib of Adam and that childbirth is painful because she ate from the apple and talking snakes.
You just believe every word of it literally.
Well, it's a fruit, not an apple.
Have you read the Bible, Adam?
No, yeah.
I don't think you have.
It's commonly known.
I know the Bible doesn't specifically say apple, but that's how it's commonly known.
But yes, I do believe that.
I do believe in the creation story in Genesis.
It's hard to even take you serious, like believing all this stuff.
You think that just God just made Adam 6,000 years ago just materialized out of thin air like a Marvel comic book movie or something?
Well, I don't think it was 6,000 years ago.
But again, I'm asking you to name five scholars, just five.
I'll tell you what, I'll give you Richard Carrier and I'll give you Robert Price.
So that's three scholars.
Just a number is irrelevant.
The rest of the scholars mostly are Christian and they'll lose their jobs if they question this thing.
I've read books with chapter after chapter going into this whole issue with this line of reasoning.
You've read books by note.
You've read books by non-experts who have terrible, awful arguments.
I tore your interview with David Scurbina.
Yes, I absolutely believe.
You've had a retard and idiot every time.
Yes, I absolutely believe he's a retarded fucking idiot.
How do you say that there is only late evidence?
Great arguments.
300 arguments.
How do you explain this to me, Adam?
How do you say that?
Wait, let's just say it's going to be polite.
Late evidence, only late evidence for Jesus, and then admit later in the interview that, oh, yeah, they have fragments from 67 AD and not torpedo your own case.
How do you make that case and not come off like a retard?
Is this something that I even said?
No, this is something that Scurbina said.
Well, how long ago did I do that interview?
I don't remember what he said.
It was a learning.
I talked to him one time.
I'm not asking why justify him.
I'm watching my videos.
Like, are you debating Scurbina or are you debating me?
Oh, I'd love to debate Skirbina.
That would be a good idea.
You're so cucked to a Jewish religion.
You believe Zion is the Holy Land.
You think you're the new Israel.
You think you've got the new covenant.
You realize that when you think you have the new covenant and you're chosen now, that you're validating the old covenant and like elevating them to a divine status in a way.
And this has been the secret to their power in the West.
No, I don't buy that at all.
Because you cannot establish a causal link between current Jewish power and any sort of conspiracy from the first century AD.
You simply cannot.
In fact, the evidence agree that Christianity has been highly co-opted or hijacked or subverted by Jewish power now.
Name one organization on the face of this planet that hasn't.
You've got like North Korea and Iran.
Those are your counter arguments.
Sounds like to me.
Sounds like it failed.
Is this God's plan for the Jews to subvert and take over his church?
Is this all going?
Is Jesus just waiting up in the clouds, waiting till the Jews take over and the temple is built and Armageddon comes and he's going to swoop in?
And do you think Jesus is going to float down from the clouds in a robe of blood with a sword?
That's really what you think is going to happen.
During the apocalypse, yes, absolutely.
Adam, you're not giving me any reason not to believe any of the things I believe.
You're just not.
You're insisting that there's a conspiracy.
And I have yet to hear how you sound.
I hear a crazy evidence.
Somebody's going to float down from the sky.
A magical martyr Jew is going to fly down from the clouds.
You don't think that sounds crazy at all?
Your personal incredulity is not an argument.
I'm sorry, it's not.
I can sit here and reference scholars.
I can make quotes all day.
And I'm asking, again, I'm asking you to name.
Again, your personal incredulity is not an argument, Adam.
If you want to start laying out your case with actual facts, name me the first person.
Where do we have acting like I haven't laid out the case?
I've done like 15 videos and you haven't seen any of them.
You don't even know the arguments at all.
Well, do it here.
I'm not part of your personal fan club.
Do it here.
All right.
I'll be more than happy to lay out the case over and over again as far as listen to this.
Yahweh is a jealous God.
He wants to destroy all the other gods.
Christianity fulfilled that for the Jews.
Got the Gentiles, the pagan world to abandon their history, their cultures, and replace it.
Now they're worshiping fictional Jewish patriarchs.
You don't see how Jews have boasted about this, how they've conquered us via this theology.
And you're just in two denial.
Like, I'm trying to sound the alarm and wake people up.
I mean, is it not obvious the vast majority of Christianity is complete servants of the Jews?
They're helping them fulfill all of their end times agenda.
The reason that there's an Israel and Jews have such power is because of Christianity.
So, I mean, I don't see how you think that the solution, that the problem, the solution isn't going to be what caused the problem in the first place.
Well, first of all, you haven't done what I asked.
You haven't laid out an early case for any sort of conspiracy.
You haven't.
In fact, you referenced Moses Maimonides earlier in your opening statement.
Do you know what he wrote?
Absolutely.
Yeah, 1200.
The 1200s.
You are asking the, you are saying that there is no early attestation for the historical Jesus.
We have gospel records, fragments that go back to 67 AD, 34 years after the crucifixion.
Yes, we absolutely do.
Where's your proof for that?
How small is the fragment?
One word?
I have no idea.
Let me go ahead and find that actually.
But we do have the Codex Sinaiticus, which is 380.
350.
Yeah, that does a lot of good.
300.
Oh, it does a lot of good, actually.
No, actually, you think that's good evidence.
Something that happened 300 years after the fact.
Well, here's the thing.
Why is God hiding anyway?
What is this idea that, like, oh, just believe in the scapegoat atonement, blood, magic, sacrifice, otherwise, you're going to burn in hell?
You don't see how that's like fear-based mind control that they had to have obedience to the Yahweh, the God of Israel that chose the Jews and had horrendous things to say about the Gentiles.
And now that's the God you want to worship.
And what's with wanting to worship a Jewish God or any God to begin with?
Like, what kind of slave are you where you want to bow down to some God that and love a God that will burn you in hell if you don't want to worship him.
It's like let's go ahead and answer one of those objections at a time.
No, we don't have we have very early evidence for Christ.
Again, we have fragments from 67 AD.
That is the earliest fragment.
We have later fragments.
No, we have the entire, entire require extraordinary evidence.
Wrong.
Oh, I love it when atheists say that.
That's a fucking stupid thing to say.
No, winning the lottery is an extraordinary event.
What kind of extraordinary evidence would you manage?
You're going to win the lottery every day.
People don't walk on water every day.
Is it ordinary?
Winning the lottery ordinary.
If you won the lottery, would that be back from the dead every day?
Hold on.
Would that be ordinary in blood magic?
You believe in Yom Kippur.
You believe in Passover.
You might as well just be a Jew.
You're like a quasi-Jew, and yet you hate the Jews and you don't even see that you're their dupe.
No.
Actually, the Jewish conspiracy can be dated to a very specific point back in the 1800s with the Schofield Reference Bible and the beginning of history.
Yes.
With dispensationalism.
Yes, it dates back to dispensationalism.
I will make your case for you from dispensationalism.
It was the plan all along.
First, do you have any early documentation to prove that?
From, say, the second century AD?
Anything.
Anything?
To prove what?
I missed what you were saying.
Do you have any documentation to prove that it was a known conspiracy?
Do you have any personal letters of, say, of rabbis saying, oh, we got the Goyam now.
We're creating a savior.
We're doing this.
Personal correspondence writings from, say, historians.
The Jews that would have known this would have only been the top insider-initiated Kabbalahs.
You do realize that Kabbalah got started several hundred years after Christ, right?
Do you realize that the oral law was before the time of Christianity?
That's the esoteric secret teachings of the Torah.
So it's basically that many of the teachings that were written down, even in the Talmud in the 600, could have preceded that by hundreds of years.
Do you have any evidence for that?
Because I can point you to the point.
You gave the logical evidence.
No, you didn't.
You said you made a logical fallacy.
Post hoc ergo propterhawk.
After this, therefore, because of this, you are asserting the existence of an oral tradition.
It doesn't exist.
In fact, if we go to the Middle Ages, a lot of this.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold up.
Hold on.
All the Pharisee talked about the oral tradition.
Sorry.
They talk about the oral tradition of Moses.
Yes, they don't talk about a Kabbalistic oral tradition.
In fact, if you go to the Middle Ages, where a lot of this Kabbalistic stuff got started and started being exposed, it bears a lot of resemblance to Hermeticism.
What is Hermeticism?
That was ancient Egyptian blood magic.
And that's when that stuff starts coming in.
You start seeing that more and more often in Europe.
And you see the Jews start to incorporate it.
And the influence is one way.
It's from Hermeticism on to Judaism, not the other way around.
Do you think that the Torah was dictated to Moses from God on Mount Sinai?
I think portions of it were.
Portions of it.
So you agree with the rabbis then?
Yes.
You and the rabbis, you see, you're so similar.
You want the same thing.
You want the chosen one from the Hebrew Torah to rule the whole world.
I want you to stop.
David, that's what you want.
You want a Jew to rule the world.
I did a review of a Christian Zionist book about that.
That is essentially what you're endorsing here.
And you don't see how that's how you've been caught up in the Judeo-paradigm.
No, I can untangle this for you if you'd like.
The trouble is you're confusing the modern state of Israel, Palestine, with biblical Israel.
Well, the New Testament talks about Israel.
It's not talking about the Jews.
It's talking about the body of believers.
And that has always been the case in the Bible.
In fact, the person who sent the most Jews to hell is God.
The ten tribes, they were scattered to the winds.
So a lot of people think they made it into Europe and the Middle East, etc., etc.
and so forth.
But that's a discussion for another time.
You had two tribes of identity, are you?
No, I'm not.
God, no.
Good.
Yeah, they're a bunch of crazies.
But no, that's most of the tribes of Israel did not make it back after the Babylonian exile.
In fact, there was a civil war in Israel where they broke into those loyal to Yahweh and those who started worshiping other gods.
And it was intended to split Israel and Judah.
Again, this is listed in the Bible.
You have sad that you're so infatuated with this most likely fictitious history of the Jews.
It's sad that you can't actually Counter any of these arguments by actually establishing that it's fictional, Adam.
You're asserting that it's fictional.
Well, you're cutting me off when I start to make my lack of archaeological proof for all this, all the claims in the Old Testament.
And there's many contradictions and problems and acronyms in the Old Testament as well.
Interesting that you don't know.
The main proof is on you.
Like, you really think, what's your proof that a snake really that a staff really turned to a snake or a woman, Lot's wife, turned to a pillar of salt?
Do you believe that literally happened to a human could turn into a pillar of salt?
Yes, absolutely.
The God who created the God who created.
Oh, I can't do anything with this, Scott.
Adam, your personal incredulity is not an argument.
Do we want to start to do you want to lay out your actual documented case for how Jews duped Christianity from the first century?
Do you want to lay out some evidence?
Some writings.
Like I said, I have.
The goal, the goal of the Old Testament was for the Jews to get the Gentiles to worship their God, but not become Jews.
So Christianity fulfilled that perfectly.
It got the whole Gentile world to be subjugated and to believe that the Jews are God's chosen people.
It's worked like a charm, and you're just here basically playing defense and apologetics, defending the Torah.
Like there's a Jew somewhere laughing at you for doing this.
Guarantee it.
Are you that Jew, Adam?
Adam Green?
No, I'm sorry.
That was a low blow.
So again, showing my DNA, you're some anon guy online that won't even show his face.
And this is the goat, the go-to.
Even if you're joking, this is the go-to Christian cope.
You don't believe in the Jewish Messiah and the Torah is the word of God and Hebrew messianism.
You must be a Jew.
It's the dumbest, worst code.
Adam, you're not providing any arguments.
You are simply asserting something based on lack of understanding.
Would you like to stop cutting me off and I could lay out my case?
Go ahead.
Are you sure?
You sure you don't want to cut me off anymore?
Just go ahead.
Okay.
All right.
So what Adam wants from the Bible, he cannot provide for his own theory.
He cannot provide a single scrap of evidence that the Jesus conspiracy is in fact a conspiracy.
Rather, based on the data we have, which is an enormous amount of it, we can conclude beyond any sort of question that any credible person can make.
That one, Jesus existed.
He preached the coming of the kingdom of God.
He was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and that his followers, he believed, his followers believed they saw him risen from the dead.
Virtually no one disputes this.
And I've asked Adam repeatedly to name any scholars who do, and I gave him virtually no one, yes, qualified to speak on the topic, unless you'd like to start naming names, Adam.
I gave you a moment.
So you're only qualified if you agree with you in your mind.
You believe this Pilate story like it actually happened.
There's no record anywhere in Roman history of Pilate doing this.
Actually, there is.
We actually have a Tacitus like almost 100 years later.
That's not legit.
How about it is not some pushover.
Pilate, the whole story with Barabbas, Jesus, Barabbas, it's a retelling of Yom Kippur, showing that this is related, theological related to Yom Kippur.
You believe in scapegoat atonement rituals.
You believe in blood magic.
Killing something else forgives you for your sin.
Number one, why would God need to you believe in burnt offerings and blood magic also?
Literally, you think that really is the way the world works?
That was the way propitiation of sin worked in the Old Testament before the coming of Christ.
Yes.
You believe in blood magic.
You believe that that'd be like me wanting to forgive my wife so I kill my dog.
Like that, that's that kind of logic.
It's immoral.
It's irrelevant.
On what grounds?
It's on what grounds?
On what grounds to the moral?
To kill something else, to light up a lamb on fire, and then you're forgiven.
You're sinful.
I want you to ground your moral ontology.
Oh, you're going to say there's no morals without the Bible?
Like there's like it's full of morals.
Without God, all things are permissible.
Yes, absolutely.
You can't know what's good with your own intellect.
Can you ground it?
You can have a feeling.
You can have a conscious.
I think I think torturing an animal and believing that it forgives you for something you did is ridiculous and immoral.
Yes.
On what grounds?
On the grounds that this is the problem.
I ask you why you can't tell me and you just repeat yourself on what grounds that God God said it's wrong.
It's like in the Bible doesn't even teach morals.
It just teaches blind obedience to God.
Like the Jews call Gentiles like goyim cattle and that were the word impulsive and dumb like Esau.
And then you're literally like sheep in a flock following the Jewish shepherd and you don't see that you've been duped.
It's ridiculous.
You keep insisting I've been duped.
But again, you cannot provide any evidence that this was a conspiracy.
The closest you can go back to any sort of conspiracy.
I don't have to have some ancient source saying this is how we trick the Gentiles.
You're actually asking for some ridiculous amount of evidence that we don't need.
I'm asking for literally anything.
For the sake of argument.
Literally anything that predates the Schofield reference Bible.
In the 1800s, there was all types of Christians and messianic Jews talking about we need to restore the Jews to the land and then Jesus will come.
You don't see how that's a dupe.
You don't see all the Christians and the Pope and the Orthodox Church.
They're all playing into the Jewish agenda.
Yes, that was a dupe.
Thanks to the Schofield reference Bible, which got the ball rolling on dispensationalism.
This is also right around the time when Jewish banking families started making a lot of money and started exerting a lot of influence over universities.
We see the same thing happen with communist infiltration of the church, by the way.
Why is God's word so easily perverted and susceptible to mistranslations that have allowed the Jews to take over the world?
Reading the Bible in totality and understanding the context, you don't get this.
Again, you don't get what you're talking about.
Reading the Bible, you do not get dispensationalism.
You simply don't.
Without the Schofield reference Bible, there is no dispensationalism.
They sure have been able to manipulate a lot of people into believing it.
You're the minority.
So really, they say you're not the real Christian.
You say they're not the real Christian.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm not making that case.
It's completely kosher.
And you're just here.
They're not the real Christians, and we've always opposed them.
Really, you're seeing their victim status.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying dispensationalist Christians are not Christians.
I believe they are Christians.
I believe they've been duped by actors acting in bad faith.
The thing to keep in mind, Adam, these are people who do not look into things deeply.
The Bible rightly calls Jesus'followers sheep.
They need a shepherd.
And it's the duty of shepherds.
Why would they come up with a gospel that, hold on, say that again, sheep, shepherd?
You really are saying that we're all like sheep?
I'm saying, yes, that people, most people are followers, and they do need good leaders.
I don't buy into this bullshit libertarian argument where every man's an island unto himself.
That's a load of nonsense.
They gave you your leader, the Messiah that was supposed to conquer the Gentiles because they rejected him.
Now you worship that God, and you still don't see how it was a trick.
They've got you worshiping their God and their Jewish messianism, and that their Torah is the word of God.
The Torah, yes.
The Talmud, no.
You're spiritually conquered.
You're theologically conquered.
Again, you have not given me any reason to not believe what I believe.
You simply have not.
You keep asserting that this is a conspiracy.
I'm asking you to provide the same level of evidence for...
the existence of a conspiracy that you are asking the Bible and ancient archaeology to provide for the existence of Jesus Christ that's it in fact I'm asking you for less than you ask of the Bible I can point you to textual traditions that date to within six months of the crucifixion six months yes I absolutely can no Paul's writings are the oldest and that was decades after about 40 AD about 40.
Early mid-50s to the 60s.
That's 20 years after the fact.
That's fairly early for ancient history.
Don't you see this is problematic that the oldest writings of Christianity come from somebody that never even claimed to meet Jesus?
And I did a video on this recently.
All of his gospel on Jesus, he didn't know about the gospels, by the way.
I saw you got this wrong in the Scorbina interview.
Paul came before the Gospels.
He never mentioned any of the Gospels.
He never cited any of the Gospels.
The Gospels copied some of his stuff, especially Mark allegorically a lot.
But the problem is that Paul, the Pharisee, had this vision that he's going to go to the Gentiles and make them obedient to the God of the Jews.
You don't see how that's a con, number one.
He never even met him.
The oldest writings is somebody that never even met him.
He just saw him in scripture.
He did Midrash and Peshem and found all these old verses and created a new concept.
So how do you get around the fact that Paul met with James the brother of Jesus and Peter?
How do you get around this?
They referred to Christian.
Anybody that had visions and believed in the suffering Messiah motif from the Old Testament?
That's who was considered a brother in Christ.
Some other people that had visions, other people that saw these connections in the Torah, in the verse.
And the other apostles and the 500.
That's proof he did it.
Just that Acts or Acts says it.
That's the proof.
If you want to discount Acts, you have to discount the entire rest of ancient history.
Yes, you absolutely do.
I can't take you seriously when you say crazy stuff like that, dude.
Come on.
I'm not hearing a refutation, Adam.
Acts is written.
Luke and Acts, most likely the same person wrote it, but not named Luke.
They added those names in like 100 years after.
They were anonymous and they weren't dated.
No, they were.
Like I said.
And Acts, both Luke and Acts.
Luke copies from Matthew and Mark, so it's not even original.
And Mark is full of allegory.
And Acts and Luke are after Josephus.
They copied from Josephus, so it's dated after 95.
No, there's no evidence for that.
60 years after the supposed crucifixion?
60 years in ancient times.
And this is what you think is good proof.
That is actually very early.
Assuming what you're saying is true, that is actually fairly early.
That's actually very reasonable.
So this elaborate story with like Sermon on the Mount and all these words, you think this is all completely accurate 60 years later written down?
It just all memorized it perfectly and didn't want to write it down right away 60 years later.
That'll all the people believe it in the future.
Well, first of all, first of all, again, I conceded the point to make a certain point that 60 years isn't that long when it comes to ancient history.
But no, we have excellent evidence that the gospels and indeed most of the New Testament was written before 70 AD because of the destruction of the temple.
Not one single solitary document mentions that the temple had been destroyed.
In fact, in Matthew, there's a prophecy about it.
Now, Matthew is obsessed, obsessed in writing to his Jewish audience that Jesus is the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies.
He goes out of his way to point this out.
Don't you think that he would have said, hey, Jesus said that the temple is going to be destroyed, and then it was destroyed in 70 AD?
So what we have is we have a rigid textual tradition by the time of the temple's destruction.
Which is 40 years after the supposed crucifixion.
Matthew copies from Mark.
Mark was first.
It was probably Matthew, actually, but they were written around the same time.
Bart Ehrman would disagree with you on that.
I guarantee that.
And he's welcome to.
He's welcome to disagree.
What?
And he's welcome to on that.
Yeah, absolutely.
But Mark bears all the Mark bears the hallmarks of a document that was edited down.
A lot of people think that Mark was the first because it's the shortest, and that's the reasoning.
I'm not kidding.
But they thought it was a summary of Matthew, of Matthew, right?
Yes.
That's where they put it after.
But it's actually the other way around.
I've not seen any evidence for that, but we have a document.
You haven't read the books that I've read then.
I've probably read better ones, like actual scholarly work, not written by weirdos who don't believe.
By people that believe in talking snakes and walking on water.
And to think I have better evidence for that than you do for your assertion.
Isn't that so wonderful?
So we have you have evidence for any of that?
Like stories?
That's like saying, I read Harry Potter.
I own Harry Potter.
That's proof that Harry Potter's real because it says it in there.
No, that is a gross, no.
Like identical.
It's the argument.
So do we want to get rid of Satonius?
Sure.
All Satonius gone.
Herodotus gone.
You have to say that.
You don't know anything about the rising version of names.
The audience doesn't even know what you're talking about.
What are the dates?
What did they say?
Like, context matters.
Don't just start rapid firing names.
You don't like when I name names, do you?
I mean, not without any context or anything background about it.
These are ancient Greco-Roman historians.
For instance, Herodotus is the gentleman, his histories.
We're getting another phone call.
Who is when did he write it?
I feel like the panel hasn't talked at all, Ralph.
Yeah, well, I mean, I was just letting you guys go because it got really fire there for a minute.
I did have a question for you, Adam.
And I was going to ask, like, as far as the, you know, Jews being the ones behind Christianity, you know, there's a lot of recorded history about the organization of Christianity, the disputes, you know, the councils, systems, and all this.
Now, how did, you know, what was the, how were the Jews involved with this, you know, all throughout that time?
Or is that not what you're saying, basically?
Well, I don't, I don't know for sure on that, but to speculate, the Jews have always, there's always been messianic Jews that have been influencing Christianity in certain ways.
There was like the Jesuits that came in and did that as well.
There was even Kabbalah Christians that would influence.
But really, it's like they kind of started it.
They started this controlled opposition cult and they got the ball rolling.
And once it picked up, it kind of took on a life of its own to a degree.
But then they always had it planned.
It was always embedded, the Trojan horse, for them to be able to subvert it at the right time.
Go ahead.
Fish your thought.
I didn't mean to.
When the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, which is what Luke says.
Are you happy that our time is going to be fulfilled?
Do you think that's going to be good for us when Edom is destroyed and Armageddon comes?
It's like a death cult hoping for the end of the world.
I don't know about a death cult considering we can look forward to eternal life.
So that's kind of the opposite of a death cult.
I mean, that's what you believe.
That's what you can't believe.
You don't have proof of that.
And again, it's like you're controlled by fear.
You believe in the Jewish fairy tales because you're scared of going to hell.
Were you raising Christian?
I was not.
I was an atheist until I was 20.
And what made you convert?
The basis of the evidence.
I took a look at what the gospels had to say.
I compared them to other historical sources.
And the gospel came up on top.
None of the arguments against Christianity hold any water.
They simply don't.
Again, you cannot provide the evidence.
That's like a blanket assertion.
I could say there's absolutely no good proof that Jesus is real or God is real or the Bible's real.
That's what you've been saying.
And that's what you've been asserting.
And it's what you can't prove.
Well, I'm giving reasons for that because it's happened.
It was written down decades after, and it's impossible nonsense in there.
Like all the miracles in the new, what's more likely that they made up mythical stories or that all this stuff really happened?
All this stuff really happened.
Yes, absolutely.
Again, Adam, if you personally weren't worried, it's not an argument.
You needed a shepherd, I think.
All right, now.
Now, let me read some of these super chats because I saw a few come in.
Let me go through Gators here as well.
Gator, you can ask a question too if you want to contemplate a question while I'll read some of these.
Let's see.
Yeah, sure.
All right.
Good, good.
All right, let me read this.
King Porgy.
What was I just saying?
I earlier.
I don't know what that is.
That was way earlier before.
Then he says, Zimmer here kind of got that one.
Let's see.
John Gilboni says, Ralph, have you lost weight, lol?
Yes, I've lost 25 pounds.
I did the check-in earlier today on Twitter.
I got back down.
I got down in the 250s and then I went back up and I knew I'd went back up.
So I was waiting until I was down in the 250s again.
And now I'm two pounds lower.
It's like 257 points something today.
So two pounds off my recent low.
So we're back in the good zone.
So I hope I can keep going that way.
Lord Zindi says, Ralph, put the bat down.
Also, I was offered the job.
I wanted making 15K more than my previous job.
Let's fucking go.
Congratulations.
Hell yeah, Lord Zindy.
Is this the button?
Yes.
There it is.
Oh.
Azer says, imagine unironically believing in some desert trilogy.
Something where the fuck you, I like it.
He says, Cope, how much low IQ do you have to be to believe this nonsense Adam won in the first five minutes?
Azer says, Cope, see, then, dilate in that fucking order.
Then he says, Adam's undefeated.
Jack Dark put the sticker up with the Odyssey guy pissing on YouTube, which is hilarious that they made that a sticker here on Odyssey.
And I fully support that.
All right.
Now, go ahead, Gator.
Let me let you get some questions in there.
Also, entropy, killstream.live slash entropy.
Let me check.
Oh, there are some over there too.
Let me hold on.
Let me read those.
Unknown California says, I just want to send some love.
Your show is great.
Well done, my friend.
Much appreciated.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
Bass frequency says, Miles thinks studying for a debate means being part of his opponent's fan club.
Adam, I'm sorry.
No one can give you a legitimate debate.
Hopefully, the next one will go better.
Tushin says, hey, Adam, do you believe there is absolute objective truth?
Something that is true, always has been true and will always be true.
And if you don't, why don't you?
Yeah, I do believe that there's objective truth.
Like, I could say, is there a pen in my hand?
And I'd say, yes, it is.
Okay.
All right.
Now, Gator, go ahead, sir.
Stephen, one question for Miles.
No, I mean, you said the mutual one for Adam as well.
Okay, go ahead.
Sure.
Yeah, go ahead.
Get a couple in there.
All right.
My question for Miles is: what do you think about the Shroud of Turin?
Is it a sacred artifact or is it something that was forged?
I think it's authentic.
You believe it's authentic?
Yes.
Didn't they do carbon dating and show that it was like a 15th century forgery?
They did the carbon dating on a burnt patch, which is going to confound the carbon dating.
They've also found pollen on there that dates earlier than the 800s A date.
So how do you reconcile those?
Is that why the Vatican won't even officially endorse it?
I'm really not interested in the opinion of the Vatican.
I mean, if you're going to claim it's a forgery, you're going to have to explain how it was forged.
I meant to ask this up front.
What type of Christian are you?
Not a denominational Baptist.
You know, earlier when we were talking about Mark and I said Mark came before Matthew, there was a reason is because you brought up the destruction of the temple.
And that's how they've dated Mark to after 70 AD is because he alludes to things that scholars believe confirms it's after the destruction of the temple.
That is actually begging the question.
So if you're going to approach the Bible with the view that you take, which is miracles are impossible, God doesn't exist, then yes, you would have to say it happened after.
But if you go in with an open mind about that kind of thing and you take a look at the rest of the documentation, the rest of the gospels, the rest of the epistles, the rest of the New Testament, none of the other ones mention the destruction of the temple, which was the center of Jewish life at the time, that would be like Washington, D.C. getting nuked and no one talked about it.
It's inconceivable.
The parable of the fig tree is like a theological lesson about why they don't need the temple anymore.
And there's other reasons.
Like this is scholars are very certain that it is dated to after 70 AD.
So Jesus said that we have to rely, we have to have faith in prophecy from ancient books and that this is how God reveals himself with writing things down and then them being fulfilled.
Like, why doesn't he just come and show himself to everybody?
And there wouldn't be all this disagreement.
There wouldn't be this misinterpretations.
There wouldn't be thousands of denominations.
Why is God hiding?
Have you asked him to reveal himself to you?
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Then I'll continue to pray that he does for you specifically.
So what?
Just you're a special boy and he reveals himself to you, but not to me.
Me and a couple billion others.
Well, there's a couple billion Muslims, too.
Does that mean Muhammad's real?
Well, yeah, Muhammad was absolutely a historical person.
I mean, did he float up in heaven like you believe Jesus did too?
I don't think he did.
I don't think Muhammad was taken up in Jesus.
Jesus did, but Muhammad didn't.
Yes.
I bet you if you were raised in an Islamic country, you would believe that the other way around.
I was raised irreligious.
So that kind of shoots your argument in the foot, doesn't it, Adam?
You're still raised in a, I mean, I'm sure you knew some Christians or were around Christians.
There's a lot of Christians in our country, and that's why we're the biggest Shabbos Goyim state to Israel.
Israel actually the overwhelming majority of my friends without Christianity.
There would be no Christian Zionism without dispensationalism, which again came out in the 1800s.
And there would be no dispensationalism without Christianity.
It is the mechanism of their control.
There's no denying it.
No.
In fact, I'd like you to name another single cultural organization that has done a better job to oppose Jews throughout history.
Can you name one?
Better job.
Do you not see all of the Christians worshiping Israel right now?
Like, they're not doing it.
They failed miserably.
They've changed the eternal martyr and fulfilled their victim status and fulfilled the prophecies that they had in their Torah perfectly for them.
Now they're basically about to conquer the world and destroy the Gentiles.
And you're here, all these anti-Jewish Christians are busy attacking me.
Have you ever publicly debated a Christian Zionist?
Yes.
In fact, we do that all the time.
We do talk to Christian Zionists.
We do read what they have to say.
In fact, we have a whole video about supersession that explains in no uncertain terms that Jews are not the chosen people.
You are not saved by your blood.
But they were once.
No, you were never saved by your blood.
Ever.
You don't believe.
I mean, it says that they're the apple of his eye.
He says it a million different ways that they were his chosen people.
Yes.
You don't believe that they had a covenant with God.
They did.
Yes, that they disobeyed, and then God cursed them.
Okay, so you believe that they're a magical, supernatural curse.
Do you have like a religious hatred for them, which set you up as the antithetical?
The Jews believe Christianity and Jesus represents Satan.
That's why they believe he's boiling in hell in the Talmud.
And they believe it represents Esau and Edom as well.
God hates Esau.
God and the Moshiach is going to destroy Edom.
You're just playing right into their hands.
You have not been able to prove this conspiracy.
Again, you keep asserting it, but you cannot prove it now.
The proof is in the pudding.
Look at all the Christian Zionist slaves.
Look at the Pope saying inside every Christian is a Jew and that we need to eradicate anti-Semitism.
Okay, so what about all the men that pogrom the Jews?
What about that?
Yeah, that's their victim status.
Now they get to cry, oh, Christian anti-Semitism, blood libels.
So in an age before victim status was a thing, you're going to tell me that a thousand years before victim status, 20th century victim status was a thing, that the Jews pogrom got themselves pogromed.
And then a thousand years later, they're like, aha, now is the time to strike.
Buddy, if this is what you honestly think, they thrive off of anti-Semitism and there's no greater, they've turned Gentiles through Christianity into the villains.
The villains of the world.
That's why the church and the Pope and everybody's apologizing.
And the Pope says, we have the mark of Cain.
We have blood on our hands for martyring the Jews.
The current Pope, yeah, sure.
But again, let's go back to the popes that were pogroming Jews.
Let's talk about Cardinal Sarah, who has very unkind things to say about the Jews.
I don't know.
I've covered this in so in depth how all of this plays into it.
At first, Edom or Esau, which is Christianity, was to persecute them.
And then that makes them suffer and atone and they can have redemption and go back to the land.
It culminated in their hair, their Heracles, Holocaust narrative.
And then now they turn the persecutory agent Esau into the, they have a reconciliation, and then he becomes the advocate.
Oh, man, I got something stuck in my real bad.
Yeah, go ahead, take a break, man.
Go get you some water and stuff.
Got some there.
Get a drink.
I got it.
Good deal.
And you're going to assert this for which you have no actual evidence.
You're just kind of pulling this out of your ass.
Post-hoc ergo propterhawk.
And you're going to assert this, but you're somehow going to say that first century documentation from the gospels, the church fathers, early attestation, early testimony from six months after the resurrection.
You're going to say that just somehow doesn't count, right?
No, six months after that.
That's not true.
Yes, it absolutely is.
Deception and secrecy, it pervades the Judaism towards the Gentiles.
How Jacob wore Esau's skin to deceive his father.
They're all about deceiving the Gentiles.
They're all about the secret of Yom Kippur.
Have you heard the secret interpretation of Yom Kippur?
They offer the direction to Satan.
They offer the goat to Satan, to Azazel, to scapegoat their sins onto the Gentiles.
This is a metaphorical representation for what they did with Christianity.
To subjugate the other side, they gave an offering to subvert us.
And do you have any early evidence for this that says this is what we're doing?
This is the plan, boys.
They're that dumb that they're all about secrecy and oral law and passing things down and not revealing their secrets to the Gentiles, and you're acting like, oh, you haven't found the smoking gun document where they lay out their whole plot.
Like, what you're asking for is just so the lack of evidence is evidence.
Have I got that right?
No, I'm not saying that there's no evidence.
So that means they did it.
The proof is in the pudding.
You can connect enough of the dots to see what's going on.
You still have an answer for why has the church been subverted and being used as a tool of the Jews?
Why is God allowing that?
Why is Jesus allowing that?
Name one organization that hasn't been subverted.
Okay, well, what?
You think you're like QAnon?
You think Jesus is going to float out of the sky and save us from the Jews?
And it's not hopeless thinking.
No, no, that in his own time, if God so chooses to, yes, absolutely.
So I don't know God's will.
I want the Jews to rule over us, you know, slaughter so many more white Russians in the Bolshevik Revolution.
How many more people need to die before God is going to come in and destroy the devil?
I would like to know that too.
When we repent, I think that's when.
When we repent.
Six million.
We're not doing it.
We're not doing enough.
This self-degrading thing, like we're born damned and we're sinful, and we just have to believe in the prophecy scapegoat of God.
So you believe in objective morality.
You believe in objective morality, but you're not going, you're going to say that whites are perfectly blameless.
The people who interest whites.
Yes, white people.
It's interesting that you would say whites are purposely.
Why not just are all?
I don't think anybody is all blameful.
I'm pro-white.
That's why I'm saying that.
Okay, but still, I don't see that it seems irrelevant to the question.
But anyway, what was the question?
My question is: so you believe correct me if I'm wrong, you believe in objective morality.
You believe that there is a real right and wrong.
Some things are right, some things are wrong.
I believe that society gets together and it evolves over time, but there's a zeitgeist and a change of morals and consensus.
I don't think that there's like an objective, and this is the religious argument: is the only way we can know what's right and wrong is what God wrote in the Bible to us, what the Jews wrote in the ancient Hebrew books.
We wouldn't know right or wrong if it wasn't for the Jews and Yahweh telling us.
It's a very sad, sad view of the world, I think.
So you're a subjectivist.
Okay, I mistook your meaning earlier.
So if you can honestly say that the people who have most facilitated the spread of war, death, destruction, abortion, birth control, sexual immorality, sodomy all throughout the globe, white people, and the Jews, the puppet masters behind that.
Don't get me wrong in the 20th century.
Absolutely, the Jews are behind it.
But we took to that shoe with a gusto.
Why wouldn't we be getting judged?
Why wouldn't we be under God's wrath?
You want us to be under God's wrath because we want to have done things?
I want us to repent.
We did too.
It takes two to tango.
It's not going to God's wrath because the Jews have done bad things.
Because we did bad things.
I don't know what bad things you've done that you think you deserve wrath, but are you part of Western centralization?
What?
Well, of course, of course, you consider yourself a good person.
Go ahead.
Sorry, that played on my end.
Go ahead.
It's a sad way of thinking that you deserve God's wrath and God's anger.
It's like an abusive, like a battered wife syndrome relationship in a way.
So people don't deserve punishment when they've done wrong?
I mean, what do you got to do a burnt offering and you'll be forgiven?
Is that what God wants to forgive you?
He has to kill his son to forgive you?
No.
You have to slaughter a goat to be forgiven?
That's the answer.
That's the answer to the Bible.
In the Old Testament, sure, that was a propitiation of sin.
We have Christ now.
We have Christ sacrificed.
Jesus is the new Passover lamb and the Yom Kippur sacrifice.
That's what he's likened to.
Yes, correct.
The same thing.
Absolutely.
So God said.
So you're validating all of these Jewish ritual delusions.
Instead of saying you were never chosen, your book's a lie.
You go along with it and go, well, you were chosen, but we're chosen now.
And we've got the covenant.
And you're not the real Jews as if there are real Jews that would have some supernatural power.
It's just you're enabling them.
You're validating their delusions.
You're like codependents along with the Jews and Islam.
You're all like bolstering each other up in this Judeo-controlled opposition matrix.
No, that's patently absurd.
And again, you cannot actually demonstrate that that is the case any earlier than, say, again, the 1800 with dispensationalism.
You can't.
You have not.
You have not.
You have not here.
The burden of approval.
That is it, Adam.
You cannot provide the documentation, nor any of the archaeological evidence, nor anything that you want from the gospel.
The gospel can.
The gospel is the early evidence you demand from it.
Yeah, you know, whatever you got to rationalize and tell yourself to sleep at night, but that's just not true.
Your personal incredulity is not an argument, Adam.
Would you like to start arguing?
Would you like to start naming sources?
You have not named a single source.
You have laid out a ridiculous conspiracy that only makes sense looking backwards on it.
If Jesus was a conspiracy, why were the Jewish authorities persecuting Paul and Peter and James and all of the rest?
Wouldn't they all be in on it?
They were, according to the story, that's what happened.
And maybe the Romans were persecuting some Jews that were trying to convert a bunch of Romans to be Jewish dupes.
Maybe they didn't like that if it did actually happen.
That makes sense.
No, it really doesn't.
The Jews could have never defeated the empire, the Roman Empire.
So they created a theological propaganda cult-like weapon that eventually did conquer Rome and then used Rome to conquer the rest of the world.
And now that whole world, they used Esau, Edom, Christianity to subjugate the whole world.
And now the Jews are taking it over at the end of the age, the end of the 6,000 years.
The time of the Gentiles is almost fulfilled.
And you want to go along and keep playing into this Judeo-delusions and these fairy tales.
If the Jews are master manipulators, why wouldn't they simply take over, like, say, the cult of Mifras, which was around at roughly the same time as Jesus?
They'd blend some pagan religions in with their new Christianity so that they would adopt it more likely.
What do you believe that like the early church fathers said that the Satan came and planted these pagan similarities?
And that's why we find them there.
No, the pagan similarities are completely incidental.
Like you would have to believe that you would have to believe that Abraham Lincoln and JFK are the same person in order to buy into these similarities.
They are entirely incidental.
Only a Christian would deny some of the parallels.
They're apparent.
They're not real.
They're incidental.
You can't concede any little point.
You have to say, yes, I believe every cross of every T, the staff, the salt, the snake, all of it.
Because if you admit one of it's not true, your whole thing crumbles to the ground.
So you're not going to be able to do a dogmatic prison.
A Judeo-Stari.
The difference is I can support it, Adam.
The difference is I can support it.
And you haven't answered my question.
So if the Jews were going to subvert, if the Jews were going to subvert the Roman Empire, why wouldn't they do what they do now, which is subvert an already existing institution?
Why wouldn't they take over?
They converted with Christianity.
They created Christianity.
So they created a Messiah to the big buff Gentile soldiers, the Romans.
They created a Messiah that was killed by Romans.
Have I got that right?
Well, it was also blame the Jews.
So they created a Messiah.
They didn't date to get that anti-Jewish Romans to adopt it.
So they created a Messiah.
That makes no sense in Judaism.
A dying and rising Messiah makes no sense.
It does make sense in Judaism.
None whatsoever.
Absolutely not.
The server Messiah of Isaiah 53, the one that is pierced in Daniel 9 or Zechariah 10.
The conception of the Jewish Messiah in the first century was as a military hero who would defeat Rome in battle, not one that you would worship now.
And just because they rejected him, you worship and you don't see how you've been duped.
Actually, the idea of two Messiahs, Moshiach ben Joseph and Moshiach ben David, precedes Christianity.
Yes, and the Messiah was going to be a military figure.
You've fallen for the first, they couldn't fake a military figure, but they could fake a dying Messiah that nobody noticed and wrote about.
And that's the one they got you worshiping.
Yeah, except all of the early attestation that, again, it goes back to the time of Jesus, the Q document, the hypothetical.
There's no proof of the Q document.
That's purely hypothetical.
And I've seen great arguments that it's that it never, it's not needed.
Q refers to a number of different things That there were very obviously earlier sources that the gospels were drawing on.
That much is obvious.
It's quoted.
Paul in 1 Corinthians quotes an early creedal statement that, again, scholars date back to six months after the cross.
It's completely hypothetical.
And scholars dating something to six months on the cross are obviously Christians that are trying to find some proof that isn't there.
Bart Erman.
He dates it within six months.
Some conservative Christians date early one to two years.
There's an anti-millionaire gatekeeper that is put on CNN and Bill O'Ne Bill O'Reilly, Bill Mayer and stuff.
He's made so much money off these books.
For him to concede that actually he was wrong would destroy his career in a way.
And he's got friends.
There's a whole thing.
There's many of the mythicists that call him out.
You know, he's scared.
He backed down of a $10,000 offered debate to debate Richard Carrier on this.
Richard Carrier is a joke in New Testament history studies.
Richard Carrier's methodology is so bad that if Richard Carrier wrote about Richard Carrier and read about Richard Carrier, he would have to deny the existence of Richard Carrier.
That is how absurd his standard is.
You're just making just like blanket assertions.
No, I'm telling you.
You read like his thousand-page book, Historicity of Jesus.
I'm familiar with it.
I'm also familiar with the scholarship.
I've never read it.
You are the only one on Adam.
I've listened to it multiple times.
There's like literally hundreds, if not thousands of reasons to obviously see that Christianity is a complete fable, a complete delusion, and completely Jewish also.
And it's, I hope the audience gets it because I'm really not trying to change your mind.
I'm just trying to hopefully expose the audience to some ideas that they haven't heard before because this is a big sacred cow, especially in the critical of Jewish community.
It's always been completely dominated by Christians.
The only opposition allowed to the Jews is the Christians who also believe they were once chosen and believe in the Torah and worship the same God.
It's a dialectical controlled opposition, quite obviously.
Let me ask you something.
And that's not necessarily a part of the debate.
I mean, it is related a little bit.
But, you know, what got you in on this first off and start to think that this was like a, you know, this whole thing is just like to Israel's benefit, by certain, you know, Jewish benefit.
And when did you decide to start going so hard on it?
You know?
Well, I grew up indoctrinated Christian for the first half of my life.
Stop going.
Daddy issues.
Okay.
Excuse me?
You have daddy issues.
Okay.
Continue.
Daddy issues.
Go ahead.
That's the type of debate, say, daddy issues.
Because I say that I was brought up Christian.
Adam, let's not pretend.
Maybe you have daddy.
Adam, let's not pretend you have not been cutting me off as I'm making my points.
Okay.
Let's not pretend we're on.
Let's not pretend.
Okay, buddy.
Very Christian of you.
Very Christian of you to try to say daddy issues.
Anyway, very intellectual.
Even as a child, I thought it was ridiculous and mythical and that I was being raised in a cult.
And then I got into investigating kind of conspiracies, got into Zionism, saw how all these Christian Zionists are the greatest weapon.
And then I used to think, oh, well, the anti, even though they're not right and it's not real, the anti-Jewish Christians at least can like, you know, control Jewish power in a way.
But then I realized even they have been controlled opposition and even they have benefit ultimately benefited the Jews and been their pawns, even when they persecuted them.
I mean, the persecution, that's the Jews' religion is to be persecuted.
And the Christians provided that perfectly.
And now they're apologized, apologizing for it and saying, oh, the blood is on our hands and we were wrong and we need to do better for the Jews.
I've read these Christian Zionist writings.
They're horrendous.
And these are the ones with the influence.
These are the ones with the power.
These are the ones with all the numbers and all the followers.
All right.
Yeah.
And you know what?
I never really thought about that.
But yeah, it's true.
There are more.
I mean, the part about there being more, it's more Christians involved and it's like coming at it from that perspective.
And I've seen a lot of people, I've seen some people get really mad at you enough to like, you know, say, fuck this guy, right?
He's going on.
Horribly.
I've been getting death threats.
I've been getting so many, the Christians, the way they lie about me, make up complete, ridiculous lies, call me Jewish over and over again.
It's delusional.
Like you're literally, Christians have so much in common with Jews far more than I have not believing in this.
And they're so dumb, they think calling me Jewish is a good argument.
It's retarded.
Yeah, I mean, I don't really get that angle.
Yeah, if you get that worked up about it, I mean, you can argue with your eyebrows.
Hey, whatever.
That's, you know, that's normal type shit.
But people are like, it's so worked up.
Like, fuck this guy or, you know, fuck the other stuff he's talking about too.
Or like, he's mean or what?
I mean, it's, you know, you can disagree with somebody.
The most vile, awful people to me online have always been Christians.
What do you say to that, Miles?
I can't speak to Adam's personal experience with people.
I mean, anti-Christians for me are a giant civilizational liability.
You take a look at the attitudes of Jews.
Excuse me.
You take a look at the attitudes of atheists politically.
They're basically diet Jews.
They're all for abortion.
They're all for mass immigration.
They're all for homosexuality, sodomy, gay marriage, the whole nine yards.
Every single liberal attitude you can imagine.
Jews lead the pack, and atheists are about two to three percentage points behind them.
And that's according to Pew Research.
Look at all the religious right-wing Jews that are teamed up, the Judeo-Christian values with all the Zionists.
Like there's Jews on the left and on the right.
And I agree.
I mean, the left is totally crazy.
I would say I'm like a conservative-leaning non-believer because you don't have to be a Christian to think that the LGBTQ and the trans and the abortion and all of the pronouns and stuff is straight madness.
In fact, I think the Christians kind of almost in a dialectical way play off of the extreme communist left.
They kind of radicalize each other in a way.
There could be some truth to that, but you can't look at civilization and see any better hope in combating faggotry, pardon my language, than the Christian church.
There simply is none.
The Catholic Church.
You mean the Catholic Church that is about, as soon as this guy dies, probably about to elect Cardinal Sarah, a wildly conservative Catholic who has very strict views on immigration and abhors homosexuality?
He's about to be the next pope, very probably.
You're reading too much into theological fads.
In the 1400s, you weren't a good Christian unless you had a shape here.
I meant the pedophile priests.
Oh, that?
Well, again, I'm not a Catholic, so I don't have to answer for that.
But yes, that is a problem with all male institutions.
It's a problem with the Navy.
It's a problem with the YMCA.
Again, it's a problem with all male institutions.
You take a look at the Middle East.
Christianity really isn't that great at opposing it.
I mean, they are the religion.
Can you name a better one?
The religious argument that it's an abomination and they should be stoned to death is that's what it says, right?
Stoned to death for in the Old Testament.
In the New Testament, in New Testament times, they would be called to repentance.
And blasphemers.
So, like, if you follow the Old Testament, your fellow European who doesn't believe in this Jewish fairy tales, the punishment for me and blasphemy would be to stone me to death.
In the Old Testament, yes.
In the New Testament, you don't have to be able to do that.
You told how that's a problem.
Like, you'll go to war with your own people.
And would you, this is a question E. Michael Jones got asked.
Would you rather live in a multicultural state full of Christians or a state full of people from your own background?
Oh, why?
It's all the way.
All the way.
So you think that's better than Christianity?
No, not at all.
With a hypothetical, it kind of seems like it.
No, because again, you're not understanding the fundamental issue.
So with an ethnically homogenous nation, you have a fundamental order.
When you have a multicultural nation, you have disorder.
In fact, in the Bible, other groups of people coming in and say, ruling Israel and Judah, that is a curse.
Multiculturalism can be seen as a curse.
Female rulership as well can be seen as a curse.
So if you have an ethnically homogenous nation, you have an order.
And I would prefer to live in an orderly society.
Plus, if everyone's a Christian, who do I preach to?
Who do I convert?
I'm not going to have this conversation In an all-Christian society, and I actually enjoy having debates like this.
But so, getting back to the main point, again, we have early attestation to Jesus, very early attestation, and we also have eyewitness testimony.
No, again, don't.
No, yes, we do.
Paul was not an eyewitness, and the gospel wasn't till 40 years, 40 years.
That's not that late.
40 years is not that late.
The gospels also draw again on eyewitness testimony.
I'd like to see, like, you believe this elaborate story of the gospels.
They're 40 years later, and you believe every little intricate detail of this biblical drama.
40 years later, if I told you this, like that would be like watching 10 movies and then 40 years later, remembering every word of the script.
40 years at the latest.
That's the thing you're not bearing in mind.
40 years at the latest at the latest.
I've already laid out a good case for 70 AD, and that's 40 years after.
According to your assertion that you haven't given any proof for, which again, I laid out the case for why the entire New Testament can be seen as before 70 AD, and it has to do with the destruction of the temple.
The entire New Testament is very, very keen on pointing things out.
For instance, the exchange rate between the shekel and another piece of Roman currency.
It's two to one or four to one, excuse me, four to one.
When Jesus told Peter to go to the beach, grab a shekel, and that would be for Denarius to pay the temple tax.
Do you know the exchange rate between the United States and Mexico from 40 years ago?
No, of course you don't.
Do you know that the ruler of Judea was called a procurator?
Do you know who was in charge then?
Do you understand the political situation between, say, I don't know, New York City and New York State from 40 years ago?
I don't see what any of this has to do.
None of this is proof.
It just sounds like straight Jewish pillbole to me.
It indicates reliable transmission points.
Why do we even have to rely on 2,000-year-old documents that very likely have been tampered, translated, mistranslated, open to interpretation?
That's what you have to rely on as if God just couldn't show himself.
He used to show himself all the time in the Bible.
He'd do miracles.
He'd show he was real, but he does nothing of that now.
You don't find that a little suspicious?
Nothing that you're aware of.
So again, again, Adam, you're probably why is he hiding?
Have you done any looking into miracle cases?
I've got a two-volume set of miracles, contemporary miracles.
Oh, sure.
Let me go ahead and look this up real quick.
I'm going to regret I asked that.
Yeah, you probably will because it kind of blows your argument out of the water.
For the reason you think you haven't been making it.
There's no miracles.
I've seen, I've witnessed, it's funny how when everybody has cell phones, all the miracles seem to disappear.
And I mean real miracles, indisputable, not like, oh, somebody healed from some sickness.
I mean like real, indisputable, irrefutable miracles where everybody could see.
A real God would do that.
Instead, he's hiding in all the suffering in the world, the problem of suffering as well.
So again, your personal incredulity does not constitute an argument.
And this has been the consistent issue that you've had.
I just don't believe that.
Incredulity is not an argument, okay?
How do you like that?
No, I'm naming scholars.
I'm citing sources.
I'm giving you good reasons.
Your entire argument boils down to that evidence.
That's your argument, Adam.
So let's take a look at a book called Miracles, the Credibility of the New Testament Accounts by a gentleman named Craig Keener.
I believe he also has a more popular level book.
It's a two-volume set, and it goes over miracles in the contemporary era.
Let's see, when was this published?
2011.
So about 10 years ago.
What are the miracles then?
Let's hear them.
Let's see.
Most modern prejudice against the best one.
The best one?
Well, I mean, the best one would obviously be the New Testament.
I can go ahead and crack the book open if you want.
I'm saying miracles today.
Why doesn't God for and also not write anything down?
Why did God create carve the 10 commandments and then they break right away?
Why not carve his law real big into a huge mountain where everybody can see it today?
Why not speak to everybody all at once and get the clear message and everybody knows this idea that he's hiding and we just have to believe?
And if we don't, we're going to burn.
And if we do, we're going to, we do believe, worship the Jewish God.
We're going to have eternal life.
Like it's carrot and stick coercion.
It's so obvious what it is.
Would you believe if God had written out in the stars in every language conceivable, I am the Lord your God.
Would you believe, Adam?
I don't think you would.
There's many things that could happen where I would believe.
Well, I will pray absolutely that one of them happens to you.
And hopefully, this conversation leads you on the path to redemption back to Christ.
I absolutely, I sincerely pray that.
But again, it brings you back to reality.
If you'd like to start arguing Adam anytime, rather than post-hoc rationalization that does not make sense.
I have a question about the Jewish origins here.
A lot of I was going to ask Adam this because a lot of Jews have been killed by Christians over the course of history quite viciously in some cases.
And, you know, the whole tradition of blaming the Jews for killing Jesus, that aspect of it.
What do you say to that?
I mean, what do you say?
Well, I mean, I'm just asking, I don't know.
I'm just saying.
I'm forced conversions, believing that they're the when Christians believe that they're the synagogue of Satan and their father is the devil, it elevates them.
It's their religion to hate the Jews.
The Jews are willing to sacrifice that and be the victims and create this victim narrative that fulfills their prophecies in order to use this.
And we see how it's been used against this today.
Well, what if you're, I guess, maybe what if your argument was, you know, if you read Christianity the right way or had the right reading on it, you would not like Jews, basically.
What would you say to that theory or whatever?
Well, that's the way the majority of the Christian church was for a long time.
Not long.
Well, no, that's what I'm saying.
Well, it's not now, but I'm not.
You didn't do a good enough job of opposing them because look how they've taken over now.
It's essentially fit.
Well, no, it's not now, but I mean, is that like a prisoner in the moment type thing too, though?
Because it's not now, but I mean, for like a long, long time it was where they were very hostile to Jews.
That's the prophecies that their temple, their sanctuary would be destroyed.
They'd be scattered in exile.
They'd be a scorn under the Gentiles.
They would suffer.
And that's their atonement.
It fulfills the prophecies.
And then they have their grand redemption, then they return.
And now the Christians and the Gentiles were the evil villains, and they're the poor martyr Jews.
And we can't criticize them.
And all the Christian Zionists are building them up for their end times agenda.
It's all going according to plan.
And Christianity is a major part of that plan.
And plenty of Jews will admit it to you and brag about it.
So 2,000 years before this whole victim mentality thing even got started, the Jews had a long-term plan that wouldn't come to fruition for, again, two millennia before this was even a thing.
Yeah.
Based on a conspiracy that you can't cite.
Tell me the story that's talking like free.
The 6,000 years of creation will be divided into three 2,000-year increments.
And the final 2,000 years will be the time of the Messiah.
And so a tradition that didn't get started until hundreds of years after Christ is...
And it's the prophecy that...
No, it's okay.
No, it's okay.
I've said that so many times.
I've said that a million times.
I'll read it.
And he said something, and then I lost my train of thought.
No, it's all good.
Let me read some super chats because there's a few stacked up anyway.
And that's a perfect little segue there.
Not really, but Tuthin says, hey, Adam, do you know?
Oh, wait, I already had that one.
Ask that one.
Joel Kessler says, Milo, why would Philo, the Jewish, I guess he meant Miles, why would Philo, the Jewish Hellenistic philosopher who turned Palestine, excuse me, toward Palestine, never mentioned Jesus.
He mentioned Pontius Pilate, but never the Jewish Hellogenistic logos, God man Jesus.
It would have been irrelevant to what he was writing at the time.
We do see references in Josephus.
We do see references to Jesus from Tacitus.
We do see very early sources for these things.
Again, Josephus is a forgery.
Philo was a contemporary of the time of when Jesus.
Wait, you're saying all of Josephus is a forgery?
No, no.
No, that.
Oh, that often.
Okay, okay.
It's the forgery By Eusebius, a third century forgery, and they know this because he inherited his copy of Josephus from Origin, and Origin never cited this Jesus reference.
No, see, here's the trouble.
We do actually have a textual tradition for Josephus from the Arabic world, and it says that was true 20 years ago.
It's been actually after.
Would you like to name a source?
Would you like to name a source?
Can you prove that the Arabic tradition came from the entire book and Fitzgerald's book?
Okay, so no one else agrees with that.
And just, well, no, many people know that Eusebius forged Josephus.
And even if hypothetically, go to Bart Ehrman, he makes the argument that even if it was real, the idea of Christianity was already around.
He could have heard about it.
He wasn't a contemporary.
Josephus was born after 30 AD when Jesus supposedly was crucified.
How's that for an eyewitness?
That's the best you have.
He cites eyewitnesses.
He cites, he talks to eyewitnesses.
He talks to the people who were there.
Again, he's a credible historian.
He gets so many other details about the ancient Jewish world, right?
Yes, absolutely.
This is how ancient history is done, Adam.
You are failing to understand how ancient history is done.
The gospels are the gold standard for ancient history.
Yes, they're not.
No, name a better one.
Name someone.
Even some Christians will concede that Estephus has interpolations and stuff was added in because the language used there is nothing that Josephus would have said.
Yes, everyone knows the interpolation.
We have something close to the original from the Arabic tradition.
Oh, so you already admit that it was meddled with.
It was meddled with all the way by Eusebius, third century.
Josephus calling Christ the Messiah, not saying he was called the Messiah.
Critical difference.
That was interpreted.
Well, we know Christians like to tamper with forging documents.
I wonder how many others forgeries there are that we don't know about.
Oh, boy, would you like to, would you like to try to name a few, Adam?
Would you like to try to name a few?
Oh, boy, can you can you explain any evidence for that?
The book of Daniel, the prophetic book, is a forgery.
They claimed it was fourth century and it was actually second century.
Again, you're discounting oral traditions.
Maybe you were discounting oral traditions.
No, I affirm, I affirm some oral traditions.
You validate all of the Jewish fake history.
You worship a Zio-centric, you think Jerusalem is the Holy Land.
You worship a Jewish Messiah.
You worship the God of Israel.
You don't see, you can't even admit a little bit that it seems a little cuck to Jews.
Adam, that's not an argument.
Again, you have not given me any reason to not believe the gospel stories or the Old Testament.
It's improbable.
There's no good proof.
Those are all the reasons.
You just deny everything.
I don't understand what's going on in your psyche that makes you cling to this security blanket so much, but it's just, it's surprising to me.
Adam, no, you're just a cuck is not an argument.
Do you understand that?
I'm sitting here.
Is Christianity Jewish?
No, it's Christian.
Is it Hebrew?
What do you mean by Hebrew?
Were there Hebrews?
Is it from the Hebrew scriptures?
Is it from the Torah?
You think the Torah is the word of God?
You elevate their book as the word of God.
Yes.
And you don't see how that benefits them and plays into their hand.
I can tell you when the conspiracy that you want to allege started.
And again, you're evading just the question.
You're evading the question.
And the thing is, is the vast majority of Christians would not even argue this.
They say Judeo-Christian non-stop.
They worship the Jews.
It's not even a debate.
And again, I'm not denying that there are a lot of dispensationalist Christians that do have a real boner for the Jews.
I'm not disputing that.
I've never disputed that.
That wouldn't be a thing without Christianity.
You have Christianity to think for that.
Well, again, this is post-Oc Ergo Proctor Hawk.
This is nonsense.
Again, you cannot prove the conspiracy.
You cannot prove the 2,000-year path laid down by the Jews because you haven't provided any external evidence for any of this that dates any earlier than the 1800s.
You can't even get your notion of Kabbalah right.
Dude, the idea that the Jews, you also said you got this wrong earlier.
The idea that the Jews didn't believe in a suffering Messiah is completely wrong.
And even the rejection of the Messiah.
The notion of the Messiah was as a military ruler.
It was not the suffering Messiah.
Two Messiahs.
The first coming would be the suffering Messiah, the high priest that would die and atone for the sins.
It's all over Isaiah, Daniel, Zachariah.
I did a video on this.
You should look into it where I go over all the verses.
The idea of the suffering Messiah is a pre-Christian concept.
And the Gentile world has fallen for it largely, hook, line, and sinker.
So can you name any Second Temple era documents from, say, the Jews, of which we have a lot?
Enoch is one of them.
Can you name anything?
I'm getting a call on Discord.
Please stop.
I will talk about it.
You refuted this idea.
Do you have this document?
Like, just because I don't have some ancient Jewish document that says, this is our plan to deceive the Gentiles, they write it in code.
They have it in secret.
So a lack of evidence is evidence.
Again, never mind the fact that we have a lot of documentation for, say, the founding of Israel in Palestine.
Never mind the fact that we have a lot of documentation about, say, the founding of the Federal Reserve.
Both of those were massive Jewish people.
100 years ago?
Yes.
We have the writings of the Rothschilds.
We have a lot of these people's diaries.
You have nothing.
You have zero.
Nothing.
And again, let me lay out the last thousand years of history.
have the Jews ruling over the Christians right now.
We have...
In the last hundred years, after Juice had managed to get control of an enormous amount of banking leverage, sure, absolutely.
The banking powers have been a problem forever.
This is why ancient cultures always had jubilees.
They always got rid of debt because banking cartels were a major problem.
Yes, Jubilees were a massive thing in the ancient world.
They weren't called that.
Debt relief was a huge thing all over the ancient world.
It should be a thing nowadays.
But again, we have a clear path for how Jews got power.
You think it's just an accident or like convenient that the Jews happened to take over Christianity in the last hundred years or so?
So the last 100 people along, not the last time.
The plan was always for Christianity to be exploited and hijacked at the end.
Can you prove that?
Well, we can see that it's happened so well.
Where's God to step in and stop this from happening?
This is God's divine plan to have the Jews take over the church?
It could very well be.
Again, with all of the heart.
It's a pretty awful plan.
Pretty awful God.
Let's let Satan's people rule over you and subvert everything, and then I'll come save you after 2,000 years.
What grounds do you have to judge?
I can use my brain and my logic and say it sounds absolutely absurd.
Well, logic demands that you ontologically ground your morality.
Again, your disbelief isn't an argument.
You just think that.
That's your opinion.
I'm not interested in your opinion.
I'm interested in the facts that you can offer.
I know.
I'm interested in facts too.
Just because you read that a staff turns into a snake doesn't mean that it's a fact that it happened because it was written in a book.
The overwhelming majority.
All right, all right, all right.
Let me say we have testimony.
We have testimony that goes back to the time of the cross.
All right.
Yeah, sure.
Let me get these super chats.
I guess staffs turn into snake then because attestations of the time of Christ.
Sure, absolutely.
All right.
Ding, ding.
Hold on.
Let me get this.
We got callers too.
We're going to bring callers into.
Hold on.
Let me get these super chats.
Unknown Californian says Miles is like arguing with the leftist coronavirus is a sinister plot.
Do you have a scholarly article about this?
9-11 was an inside job.
Do you have any proof of it?
A social observer says Christianity is Judaism light.
Revelations is a total griff to get Christians to fear the prophecy of their oppressors.
We're living in their stupid fear ritual right now and Christians feed it power.
Unknown Californian says Miles uses the Ben Shapiro tactic of speaking fast, talking over and being aggressive.
Joel Kessler says Genesis is written as religious propaganda against the Canaanites, Canaanites.
The Hebrew Chaldee lexicon refers to the Canaanites and as the Philistines and Phoenicians.
It seems like all the enemies are I.E. tribes.
I.E. tribe.
Tuchen says, so if absolute objective truth exists, Where does truth come from for both to answer?
I'm sorry, I didn't hear the question.
It said, so if so, if absolute, so if absolute objective truth exists, where does truth come from for both to answer?
Oh my God, these I know where he's going with those.
These philosophical Christians like to talk about these vague philosophical abstract ideas about where morals really come from and stuff because they want to evade and get away and distract from all the nonsense they believe in their Jewish fairy tale books.
Well, to be fair, I've affirmed what you call the nonsense, so I'm not evading that at all.
Objective truth, I agree with Adam.
Like we can, we can ascertain objective truth via our senses.
And we have, unless you have good reason to believe that your senses are flawed.
Like, has anyone in the audience ever owned a black cat and a black sweater at the same time?
And then, oh, that's the sweater.
And then you step on the cat.
That's your senses fooling you.
The same deal happens with your moral senses.
You can be morally misaligned thanks to either a flawed upbringing or social conventions or what have you to believe that, say, I don't know, homosexuality is a-okay as long as they're not hurting anyone between two consenting adults.
That could be that's that's in the same way as say visual or taste or touch misalignment.
You have moral misalignment in that way.
But no, we can, we can, we can ascertain truth via our senses.
That's my opinion.
There's so many immoral things in the Bible, like condoning slavery for one.
On what grounds can you say that?
Lot's daughters giving up his daughters to sleep with the men of Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Bible doesn't endorse that.
They don't even teach morals.
It just teaches obedience to God.
To be wicked is to not do absolutely whatever God says.
Doesn't even teach it.
That is the definition of morality.
Whatever God says.
So whatever the Jews wrote in their book, that's morality.
Well, it's whatever God says.
And we have the law.
He doesn't say it.
He doesn't say it.
The Jews wrote it down that he said it.
And then the Lord said, some Jew wrote that down 2,000 years ago and you think, oh, that's what God said.
He doesn't actually speak to it.
You give the authority of the Jews to speak for God.
There's no power there into being able to speak for God, is there?
You're begging the question in favor of atheism.
You have not proved that, again, these documents are unreliable.
You've asserted as much.
You've cited some really bad sources, like one for much.
You've cited someone who is not taken seriously in the field of New Testament history as such.
You're begging the question.
Christians?
You have to cite Christians, otherwise they're going to disagree with you.
I can cite non-Christians.
I mean, picking out sources from books I read is like not even focusing on the arguments.
It's just like, just wide, wide accusations.
For an argument to be sound, the premises have to be true.
Okay, well, where's your true premise for any of the shit you believe?
I've been laying it out.
I'm giving you the names of any true premises.
I hear the book says.
You mean the overwhelming majority of New Testament scholars in the last 30 years?
Are Christians?
Yeah, and I'm naming atheists who disagree with the Christians about the, was Jesus risen?
They would say no, but they would affirm that the tomb was empty.
Would they say that Christ performed miracles?
They would say no, but did he preach the coming of the kingdom of God?
They say absolutely.
The mere existence of Jesus is, again, not a historical question at all.
It's absolutely 100% knocked down by him.
I've read numerous books on it.
It is a question.
There's a lot all over the internet.
It's not a question.
Can you name me as much as you'd like it to be?
Can you name me three names?
Can you name any Christian that's right about what he says?
Yeah, a lot of them.
Do you just want me to start?
Do you want me to just start naming New Testament historians?
Because I could do that.
No, that doesn't work.
You're not a big fan of names, are you, Adam?
You're not a big fan of actually citing your sources.
You've extended disbelief.
You believe in the Holy Ghost.
Just absurd nonsense.
No, wait, you said that twice.
What do you mean?
Does that mean something?
Because I've heard you say that twice.
What?
Miles Pauling, he said you're not a big fan of names.
I've heard him say that twice now in the debate.
What does that mean?
What that means is there are probably about five people, maybe, that working within the field of New Testament historicity or New Testament studies.
Is all Christians.
No, actually, it's about three-quarters.
Read David Fitzgerald's book, Mything in Action, Volume 2.
He has chapters that goes into this.
Okay, name any read any of Gary Habermas or Mike Lacona.
I've seen debates with Michael Lacona getting shredded.
Yeah, no, you haven't.
So anyway.
Yeah, no, you haven't.
You saw a debate that the guy that you agreed with maybe made some quippy, made some quip and that you, oh, yeah, he really got him there.
No, on the facts, no, these people get destroyed costly.
Anyway, to answer your question, Ralph, the entire field of New Testament history is united unanimously in the existence, what Jesus did, notwithstanding the miracles, of course, his crucifixion under Pontius Pilate, and that his followers saw him raised.
Again, none of those things are questioned within the relevant field of study.
And I have asked Adam repeatedly if he can name anyone who disagrees.
And I gave him two.
I gave him Richard Carrer and I gave him Robert Price.
Sorry if I got that name wrong.
Yeah, Robert Price.
Gerald is another author that's gone through his books.
He's did a chapter where he go through and found all of the people with professors or degrees and this type of topic that do question the historicity of Jesus.
And this is a fallacy appealing to the majority.
And the idea that saying there's proof that he was raised from the dead, if God wanted to prove to the world that he raised from the dead, why did Jesus not do a victory lap, a world tour and go all around?
Every continent had a big sculpture of Jesus.
We saw him.
He was dead.
He came back to life.
Something like that.
That would be proof, not nothing written about him until decades later.
Well, no, first of all, we have oral traditions that date within six months, again, and the entire field of New Testament historicity is talking about that, united in that, even skeptical scholars.
And secondly, aren't you the one asserting that Christianity is a global religion?
So isn't this Jesus' victory lap?
The fact that the majority religion on the world is Christianity?
Wouldn't that be a good victory lap?
He's the most famous Jew in the world.
He's taught the whole world to believe the Torah is the word of God and worship a Jewish Messiah.
So that's the whole much of the world.
And that's a victory for the Jews, whether you see it or not.
No, it's a victory for Christians.
Again, you cannot trace the Jewish conspiracy back any further than that.
That's why they've been conquered by the Jews right now, right?
Because the Christians are in charge.
No, I honestly believe that the Jews are currently the ones running the globe, them and the Chinese, perhaps to a lesser extent.
But again, this does not represent, this does not mean that Christianity is false at all.
That's a simple non-sequitur.
You cannot say Jews have disproportionate power relative to their numbers.
Ergo, Christianity is untrue.
That simply does not follow.
Well, if Christianity was true, why would God allow the Jews to take over?
Like, that's pretty pathetic to have God's church be taken over by Satan's children.
How many times were the Jews massacred?
How many times were the Jews occupied?
The Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Romans?
Sorry, second people suffered, but who does that benefit today?
The history of Christian anti-Semitism.
Who does that benefit?
I'm sorry, can you say that question again?
You cut out.
Jews thrive off of anti-Semitism.
You're aware of this, right?
It's their whole shtick.
It's their whole religion to be hated.
I don't buy that.
I don't buy that for a nanosecond.
Inity has been deemed the villains of history and the Jews, the innocent, persecuted victims.
In the last couple of years, yeah, when victim mentality is actually profitable.
Sure.
In the post-World War II era, sure.
They've utilized it.
They've capitalized on this and they're using it.
And this was the plan all along.
See, that's the rub.
The notion that it's the plan of the law, the notion that it's the plan all along, that's the issue.
All right.
Now, let's see.
Joel Kessler says, Adam, don't follow the hyper-irrational arguments that Christians throw out on ontology, truth, and all the apologies that have nothing to do with the Jewish God-man.
See Kant's critique of pure reason.
Joel Kessler says, Ephesians 5 talks about not using coarse or crude jokes.
The Greek word is utripilia, witticism, i.e., in a vulgar sense, ribaldry, is calling David Skribinka a window-licking retard.
Eutopilia.
Eutropilia, excuse me.
Is that?
Is calling Sri Binka a window licking.
I don't know.
Do you want to answer that?
Is it wrong?
Probably, yes.
But Paul says, who can tame the tongue?
Unknown California.
Hey, you're forgiven anyway, right?
You can smell all you want.
You're forgiven.
No, that's not the case.
You're washed in the blood.
Are you washed in the blood?
I am, yes.
I'm a board-game Christian.
You believe in Jewish blood magic.
If you want to characterize it that way, Adam, sure.
What else would you call it?
It's the Yom Kippur scapegoat atonement ritual.
I would call it atonement.
I would call it Christ's taking our justly deserved punishment on himself so that we can be reconciled to God.
And you feel indebted to him for that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, so if it's a fake story, they got you by the balls with something that never happened.
See, but that's the guilt.
They faced control.
You're guilty.
You don't want to burn in hell.
So you believe in the Jewish Messiah.
It's as simple as that.
There could definitely be a part of that that motivates certain people.
Maybe for me too in the beginning.
But no, I serve God because it's my purpose to serve God.
That's what we were made for as human beings.
I'm in my rightful place serving God.
The God of Israel.
The God of the universe.
Now, the universe is a good question.
You're always the God of Israel.
Right?
He is also the God of Israel.
Yes.
You worship the God of Israel.
I worship the God of the universe.
That plays into the hands of the Jews.
I don't see how my anti-Semitism and pointing out that the Jews are not the chosen people of God and disabusing Christians of the fact that they owe no religious loyalty to Israel.
You're saying your anti-Semitism is still in check.
It sounded like that's what you're saying, right?
Too much, if you know what I'm saying.
It's got to be a lot of people.
Well, that's why I just thought it was.
The Jews love your anti-Semitism.
It plays into their hands.
They get to point to you or Pastor Steven Anderson or Rick Wiles and say, look at those, look at those evil Christians being so mean to us.
Sure, in the post-World War II order, in the post-World War II order, sure, absolutely.
When victim mentality is profitable, it wasn't.
That's the reality.
You keep saying, like, oh, sure, they've run the world the last hundred years, but I mean, that's where we're at.
And that's where we're going forth in the future.
Essentially, Christianity's failed to keep the Jews in check.
Everyone says that.
They're the biggest servants of the Jews now.
They're the biggest advocate of the Jews.
See, here's the fun thing.
You might have been able to make that case about 40 years ago, back when boomers were young.
Because this is really where a lot of the Christian Zionism comes from.
It comes from boomers.
We're starting to see a very, very, very sharp turn away from Christian Zionism.
And the Jews are losing their ever-loving minds about it, especially as we're starting to see more and more people fall away.
More and more lukewarm Christians are stopping, are no longer attending churches, and more and more churches are becoming more and more theologically conservative.
And that doesn't necessarily mean anti-Semitism, but it does mean a break from reflexive Israel support.
Just say hypothetically, if Christianity disappeared, the Jews would be in big trouble.
If the world learned that the Jews created Christianity as a deception, it would be the end of them, the end of their grift, their shtick.
Well, if they learned that, they wouldn't be having control over America.
If they learned that, if they'd be learning something that isn't true.
So I've never heard you put it like that, though, quite that if this was the key, like, you know, everybody saw this, that it would be like, all right, Jews, it's over.
And you don't see us.
You don't see the Jews.
The Jews would call this anti-Semitic, this thesis.
You don't see them in mainstream media hating the idea that it's a hoax or that Jesus never existed.
No, they want you to believe.
It benefits them.
Honestly, I've not heard that.
I mean, I've seen some of your stuff, but before that, I really had not heard of the theory that the Jews were the ones behind Christianity or kind of pushing it and that it, you know, plays into their hands.
You know, when I, like I said, you know, there's another angles too.
When I was growing up, you know, I never even thought of that, really.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's a lot of people.
I haven't either.
Yeah.
Until recently from Bjerkness's books.
Okay.
And the Jesus hoax from Scurbina and just my own research.
Other authors that don't even know this, many of these things, but it all fits in with each other.
Yeah.
And I mean, I've known Christians highly critical Jews, you know, and stuff.
So I just never even thought really about that theory.
It makes sense, though, right?
Well, I mean, there's some interesting that you watch my videos.
Yeah, I know you're a busy guy.
Yeah, I do.
And there's, like I said, it's interesting.
And I just, it just never really occurred to me.
And there are some interesting points to it.
Yeah, for sure.
All right, let's get some callers and let me finish these first.
Oh, man, there's some more that came in.
Thank you guys, by the way, for the major support tonight.
I do want to get the callers in, too.
I see Rambot in there.
Would we like Rambot?
I have no idea what he's going to ask.
I want to talk to Rambot.
Do you want to talk to Rambot?
All right.
You know what?
Where'd he go?
All right.
Rambot, are you there?
Do you have?
Oh, I can send you the hangout.
The fuck?
Yeah, I can send you the hangout.
Hold on.
I asked you for the hangout 40 minutes ago.
Oh, I didn't see that actually.
Why didn't you tell Gator?
He could have told me.
All right, there you go.
I just didn't see it pop up.
Sometimes I'll just have his messages up there.
Go ahead.
I'll be right back.
I need to hang out.
since he's in the future.
I mean.
Well, sometimes I'll miss it or I'll think it was already lit up.
I don't see who it is or whatever.
I'm just like, okay.
Where am I at?
Hold on.
Oh, it's right here.
Anga Ling Analingus McSneed says, I sympathize with people who turn to Christianity.
Life and death are both harsh.
Yeah, that's true.
But straight up, you would have to be five years old or mentally disabled to buy into the nonsense that is true.
Christianity.
Interesting arguments from Adam about subversion.
Let's see.
Joel Kessler says, Judeo-Christian is a valid concept.
Romans 11:18 says, Do not consider yourself to be superior to the Jewish branch that broke off.
Remember, you do not support the root that waits the root supports you.
The root supports you, i.e., the Jews supports you, Miles.
What do you think of that verse?
I think that Paul also said, Those who are of Israel are not Israel.
So that kind of blows that whole argument.
There, he's definitely talking about the branch as in the Jews.
The branch of the Jews supports you, and do not be arrogant.
Historically, yes, we can trace our spiritual heritage back through the Hebrew people.
But again, that doesn't mean anymore that unbelieving Jews have any special privilege within Christians.
In fact, quite the opposite.
Again, you haven't established any sort of, you haven't established that you're saved by your blood because that's the implication of all this.
That Jews are saved by their blood.
They're not saved by the blood.
I don't think blood saves people.
I don't think there's anything.
Save you from what?
From God Himself?
He has to sacrifice himself and have a blood offering to save you.
Why need the sacrifice?
Just if God has the power, just forgive without the sacrifice.
What's the sacrifice for?
It's ancient, barbaric nonsense that you still believe today.
It's stuff that you can't actually substantiate.
I've asked you repeatedly to ground your morality.
Don't turn up a goat and tell me that you're forgiven now.
Substantially.
See, that's the fun part.
I confess my sins to Christ and I'm forgiven.
I repent of my sins and I'm forgiven.
And then you can sin tomorrow and do it all over again.
Nope.
You're not supposed to.
You're supposed to turn away from sin, become more Christ-like.
By the way, I saw Wrath in the chat.
He said, Ralph, you're hosting this.
This is a white wedge issue.
And you're not gaining much.
First off, thank you.
We have done pretty well on the support tonight, actually.
If you want to look at it that way.
And also, and the ratings have been over a thousand pretty much all night here.
So from that aspect, yeah, it's been pretty good.
But I host arguments on this show, and people come on here and they talk shit and put out ideas.
And so the whole idea that I wouldn't host something because of, you know, like an activist concern, that's not going to be.
Well, we've hosted like a big net debate.
Yeah, that's never going to be the killstream mentality.
Sorry.
That's never going to be where I always come at it from the entertainer mentality.
And I wouldn't.
We have arguments on here.
I would never sit here and say, oh, this is too divisive.
No, I'll be the one hosting shit.
That's the way it'll always be.
And I think this has been a good hug.
You fucking hosted a debate about holocoasters, okay?
Plus, are you talking about, oh, this is divisive for the white community?
If you can't fucking discuss ideas as a white man, then you're fucking busted anyway.
So shut the fuck up.
All right.
Now, go ahead, Rambot.
Oh, for questions?
Well, yeah, if you wanted to ask a question, I got a few more super chats.
Well, actually, man, fuck.
There's actually a few in here.
Let me read them through.
All right.
Damn it.
Galaxy Jesus says, think of a question, though.
Rand, I'm going to give you a question.
Okay.
So what I'm going to do is read the rest of these and I'm going to give you a question and then we'll do the callers because I know it's getting a little long in the tooth.
Galaxy Jesus says, Adam, your theory accepts the Jews have successfully taken over the world with plans that took centuries to pay off.
It almost seems like they have supernatural powers.
If God has not guided them, then why are their powers so godlike?
So this question implies the idea that you think God is.
It's Christians that think they have supernatural powers.
I think that they just came up with a duplicitous scam, psychological operation, and it's a long game plan in accordance with what they read out of their Torah.
A 2,000-year-old game with no proof whatsoever.
Holy cat.
If this is actually the case, buddy, give up.
All right.
All right.
Come on.
Find you a wife with big Kazar milkers and just survive.
Grab another one, man.
Just give up.
If they feel bad.
If they can pull this off, you're on the wrong side.
I'm on the wrong side.
Mr. Lennon says, how do I call it?
What you're saying is true, we're wrong.
You can be chosen by God, but they can't come up with a story to dupe you.
Okay.
All right.
Let me go.
Let me get these through.
Mr. Lennon says, how do I call in?
Throw the link out, Gator and Rand.
Somebody throw it out.
There's a bunch of people in there already.
Just hold on.
We're getting to that.
I swear.
Henry Ford Liv says no one has mentioned the subversion and damages caused by the Johnson amendment in regards to the tax-exempt 501c3 churches.
I, you know, I don't really just from a I don't know what I won't say what I think.
What do you think about that, Adam?
The tax-exempt status of churches.
That's one of the ways that they control.
You know, when you have a herd and a flock that is like kind of like obedient and just they don't use their intellect, they just follow like a herd.
All you got to do is control the pulpit and the pastors and you can control the doctrine and you can control the people.
Yep.
That's a major problem.
Now, yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see.
Angus McSney.
I ain't going to lingas McSneed or whatever.
I'm coughing too.
Humans generally.
You didn't hear that one earlier, did you?
Humans generally don't want to be injured or killed, so it makes sense for a human to not want to inflict that on an innocent person.
We don't need a book to tell us that, and we don't need deep philosophical discussions about it.
Cope more, Jesus boy.
Tuchin says, suffering exists because God gave us free will and people have the choice to do good or evil.
He said, as a Christian, why would you not say truth comes from Jesus Christ?
You appeal to our senses like materialism proves objective truth.
And then he said, LMO.
That wasn't the question.
That was how do we ascertain?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but how do we ascertain it to be truth?
I don't know.
There was a couple.
I don't know.
I mean, obviously, God created the universe, so that's where all of the truth we're observing comes from.
But how can we ascertain that?
I mean, God doesn't zap ideas into my brain.
Let's see.
Let me.
Okay.
Sorry.
I didn't mean to cut you off.
Why not?
Canadian Doomer says, Canadian Doomer says, Adam.
Sorry, I'm just going to speed through these.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Rob.
Canadian Doomer says, Adam, I'm Christian, but like you as a person and enjoy your debates.
Miles, thank you for representing the faith.
This issue needs to be resolved as it is a major wedge issue among pro-whites and will cause issues sooner or later.
I mean, there's no way to resolve it, really.
I mean, people, that's another thing.
There's no resolving, really.
I mean, let's, you know, it was, you know, it was like more evidence came out that the Jews like set it up.
If that thesis or, you know, it was like an actual plot, you know, type situation.
I mean, that would probably maybe do something.
Kent says, Adam says that hating Jews is what the Jews want.
So if you fight your enemy, they win.
What's your plan to Stop them, big guy.
Hating Jews in a certain way, in a way that they set up for you, plays into their hands.
I think it's better to say you were never chosen, you never had a covenant, your book is fake, you know, your whole religion is a fraud.
Whereas the Christians say, well, you just are misinterpreting the Bible.
And if you just believed in Jesus, then everything would be okay.
Like, the main problem that Christians have with Jews is that they rejected their Messiah.
If that's your problem with Jews, you've already fallen into their trap.
Yeah, when it comes to critiquing Jewish influence or anything like that, that's never been my problem.
I mean, you could have problems.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
The issue is, in my opinion, is fundamentally ethnic.
If every Ashkenazim got up tomorrow morning and said, Jesus, my heart is yours, I would still say they have to go back to Madagascar because that's where they belong.
They do not belong anywhere near white societies because at the end of the day, an Ashkenazi Jew is still going to be an Ashkenazi Jew regardless of where his spiritual loyalty lies.
He's still going to be conniving.
He's still going to be subversive.
He's still going to be psychopathic, at least until those attributes potentially get bred out.
So it's an ethnic issue, primarily.
Let me, Shinshan 256B, thank you very much, man.
Very kind of you.
He says, these are the debates that I love.
50-50 on chat.
I'm just sitting and listening to this great debate.
I'm a non-practicing Christian, and I know the ridiculousness of the doctrine.
Green has good points.
Content consumer.
He's just like, I'm non-practicing Christian, but the guy's got good points.
I like that.
I like that super chat.
Thank you, man.
Content consumer says, whether you like Miles or not, the man is speaking with utter confidence.
Adam, however, has been kind of nervous-sounding at times to this debate.
I've had a choking to death.
No, I've had mine actually the last 20, 30 minutes.
I've been coughing a little bit.
Jack Dar says, Adam, do you agree with Christian morals and beliefs?
I mean, some of them are positive.
Like, I've definitely Christianity has made some people, you know, be nice, good people and do nice things for sure.
My mom's one of them.
But like, I just, I don't think it's necessary.
I think you can be a good person.
I mean, you don't need the Bible and the Ten Commandments to know to do not kill, do not steal.
Like, that's that was known before the fictitious giving of the Ten Commandments anyway.
But you don't need the Jewish magic to have morals.
All right.
No.
Oh, it's still.
Jesus told me he wants different representation and that no has not extra mad at white people.
Oh, thank you.
I forgot I had that on.
We can leave that on, I guess.
It's good because it's later in the debate now, anyway.
Jack Dark says, Thank you, Stacey.
Very kind of you.
Let's see.
Jack Dark says, Adam, do you think Hitler was a Jew?
No.
All right.
There has been like rumors and stuff about that and people that speculated, but no, I don't.
I've never been going around making that claim.
Okay.
Hitler actually, you know, we could talk about this: Christianity in Germany.
Like, do you think, are you in the camp that Hitler was a good Christian?
No.
Hitler's spiritual beliefs, from everything I've read, he was a Reddit tier atheist, but he, I guess, respected Christian European culture.
That's sort of breaking down in the 40s.
Reddit tier, Reddit tier.
Milo.
I think, isn't there another reading that basically he was just kind of working with the Christian church and had every intention of sidelining them as full as soon as he had that opportunity?
There was some Indian.
He knew it was Jewish and he knew it was subversive and he was trying to get away from it.
I mean, that's, I've read plenty of stuff where it was like Hitler, yay, was working with him and in some ways might have worked to his benefit.
But you read some of his thoughts and talk to some of the people that er, and you see some of the records.
Like, actually, they planned to move against them further, you know, once they got their shit down later on in the Reich.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
Basically.
Not really good documentation.
You also have to say that.
I'm just saying that's just a read that I've had on it.
I don't know that that's like the be-all end-all take on it.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, a lot of people very high up in the NSDAP were occultists or were atheists, but they were very few in number and an absolute minority within the NSDAP.
So, whatever their plans were, I mean, we'll never know.
But Hitler's personal opinion, how Jewish Christianity was.
Correct?
No.
They did.
What did they say on the belt buckle of the Wehmont?
Something about God is with us or fighting for God, right?
Odd thing to put on there if you're controlled by Jews.
Yeah, well, it's a good way to rally people and rob the troops.
It's part of the conspiracy, right?
It's all playing right into the Jews' hands.
Well, you don't think the Holocaust narrative has played into their hands?
Oh, it absolutely has.
It's their narrative.
It's the answer, they made it up.
What did they say motivated?
What do they say motivated?
Who gets scapegoated and blamed for the Holocaust?
The Germans, Christianity, Marshall.
Hamilton, that ten and then just white people in general.
White people in general.
It's ever expanding.
The Skype of the Holocaust is ever expanding.
All right, no.
It's white people in general, but it's also Christianity.
All right, let's keep the blame.
Let's keep going.
So we get to college.
Basement Wizard says, oh, no, not this.
I think it's been a great night, actually.
Come.
I'm having fun.
I won't read this one.
CN CN69 says, hey, Miles, can you explain the origin of the word?
It starts with a K and how it got applied to Jewish people.
It's an interesting story.
I don't know.
Oh, the Kaysler?
Yeah, the Kaysler.
Oh, the Kaysler.
The bicycle made for Jews.
Yes.
So the story goes, a lot of poor Jews were washing up on the shores of Ellis Island.
And if you were illiterate, you would write down an X and then give it a kiss.
This is also how illiterate people would sign up for the Civil War.
It has a very long-standing precedent.
You're on Ellis Island?
All right, boy, with Aaron.
Yeah, right.
And that was how you sort of gave your word and your vow you were signing for something.
The Jews hate Christianity so much.
And this is true even today.
They don't write plus signs.
They write a little inverted T. They hated Christianity so much, they could not even bear to write an X because it looks too much like a cross.
So what they would do is they would write a circle, give it a kiss.
That's their seal.
So when Moisha Goldberg washes up on the shores of New York, he says, oh, well, I'm going to go get God.
I hate Christianity so much.
I'm going to give it a circle, even though I'm behind the conspiracy that is taking over the Goyam.
I just, I hate it so much.
Let me go ahead and put my vow here.
And the Jewish word for circle is Keiko.
So that got shortened to.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Now, let's see.
Nice little anecdote there.
Thank you, sir.
Chris Stubbs says, I don't know how Adam is letting Miles get away with prove mythology wrong when there's no proof from him.
It would be like me saying, a dude told me that a dude told them that 10,000 years ago, a lion came down from the clouds and sucked his cock and said, give me proof I'm wrong.
No, that's not the argument I'm making.
All right.
Huge asshole says Jewish prophecies come true.
Anyone ever considered maybe the Jews were right all along?
They know it come true.
They have a script and they're following it.
And because so much of the Gentile world is Christian, they're helping it.
They believe it and they want it to happen too.
It's self-fulfilling prophecies.
And they don't really fulfill the prophecies.
They twist the narrative so it seems like it does.
You know what?
kudos on that super just for the All right.
All right.
Let's see.
Azer says, Adam, go over how the Christgucks basically plagiarized from the ancient Greeks.
Only Aphrodite and Athena can save you.
The fucking Hindu Mahabharata.
I don't know if I said that right.
That is at least 4,000 years old is way more real than whatever cringe Bible says.
Let's see.
Basement Wizard says, Christianity might be hard to believe for Adam, but he has no problem believing that some 1,600 years of European culture and tradition was all being secretly directed by cackling rabbis who then decided to do a 180 and destroy the church.
Don't know, man.
Your position seems pretty absurd on its face as well.
I don't see why it's so hard people to think like what they can't have a long-term scam.
They believe in like ages at the time of the ages will be that The age of the age will end.
The times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled.
I already talked about the 6,000 years of creation, like the six days divided into three groups of 2,000 years.
Yeah, but for 2,000 years with no mechanism, with no stated mechanism of control and no evidence for that.
The theological control.
Because you believe the Torah is the word of God, you spread it around the world, you conquered the world for the Jews.
They could have been a good thing.
The Torah that explicitly calls the Jews a stiff-necked people and repeatedly catalogs their failures.
If the Old Testament were published today, it would be banned for anti-Semitism.
It is a catalog of the Jewish people's failures.
It'll be banned for anti-Gentilism.
The Old Testament says basically that the Jews should rule over the Gentiles and subjugate the Gentiles and the Gentiles should serve them.
The wealth, the riches, and the wealth of the Gentiles should flow into Zion.
This is the God that you worship that said these horrible things about the non-Jews.
Can you cite chapter verses?
Sloppy seconds because they rejected their Messiah.
Like you fall for this biblical drama, and it's just my heart because the whole world has been Judaized via this religion.
Can you cite chapter and verse for your assertions?
Because I can tell you all about the times that the Jews were massacred by the Babylonians, by the Romans, by the Assyrians.
And never once does the biblical narrative ever blame the Gentiles.
It always says these are God's judgments upon Israel for not following the Torah enough.
Correct.
So you want the Jews to be more Jewish so they're not punished by Yahweh.
I want them to confess their faith in Jesus Christ and turn away from their sins.
And then you'll love them.
And then you can just sing Kumbaya and have a nice Judeo world with the Jew ruling the world.
Yeah, they can go back to Madagascar.
Yes, absolutely.
They will be my brothers in Christ in Madagascar.
All right.
Well, I mean, you're focusing on the Israel.
Your only beef with the Jews is that they don't believe in Jesus.
But if they did, or if they, if many of them, like they are messianic Jews, saying, well, he actually was and he actually did fulfill the prophecy, then you'd be okay.
And they'd be like, okay, you guys are fine.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Those people got to go back to those people got to go back to Madagascar as well.
Again, there are two separate issues at play that you're conflating.
You're conflating the ethnic conflict issue, which, again, if the Jews weren't the Jews, the formerly chosen people of God descended from Middle Eastern tribesmen.
If they weren't like that, they would be like any other Semitic people, like say Lebanese, Syrians, etc.
They're all kind of like that.
They're all kind of sheisty.
They're all kind of scheming.
They all kind of get in people's faces.
They're all kind of like that.
But as groups, yes.
Those are stereotypes of those groups.
The Chinese are much the same way.
They're a mercantile people.
They tend to be a little scheming and a little conniving.
These stereotypes exist for a reason.
And again, that doesn't mean they get to live in my country, my nice white country.
I want them to live happily in their own countries, preferably being my brothers in Christ.
So again, two separate issues.
You're conflating the theological issue and you're conflating the ethnic issue.
Like I said, if every Jew tomorrow confesses Christ, they still got to get conflating.
I'm not talking about Israel.
I haven't asked you, like, if they believe in Jesus, what happens with Israel?
I haven't asked that.
I said that you're only the Christians' big beef with Jews is that they don't worship their Messiah.
If that's your problem with them, you've already lost.
Again, I just don't buy that.
I really just do not buy that.
Your big beef is that they don't believe in their Messiah.
Theologically theologically, that's my beef, not ethnically.
All right, Jagdar.
They're supremacist and that they want to rule the world and that their God is anti-Gentile and that it's based on lies.
Those are my beefs.
Your beef, they don't believe in their God.
They don't believe in their Messiah.
So the God that died for the Gentiles and says, I'm bringing the whole world back to me.
I'm bringing the whole world back to me.
He doesn't even go teach to the Gentiles.
He compared the Gentiles to dogs.
Until his post-resurrection appearances and then go and spread the gospel.
You wouldn't be saved.
They didn't reject him.
We wouldn't be saved.
That's a very interesting what if, actually.
It's a very, very interesting what if.
Thankfully, it didn't happen.
God's plan.
You hate them for killing God, but that's God's plan.
Otherwise, the Gentiles would have never been saved.
Oh, no, I hate them because they're scheming and subversive.
Okay, well, that's better than for rejecting their Messiah.
I think that's God's plan.
And Jesus said, Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
Also, correct.
They did not know they were crucified for killing him.
I don't know if they were or not.
I think the people who repented were certainly forgiven.
All right, now let me read these last few.
Dan Bigfoot says, How does models explain the majority of Christians being non-whites and that every Christian church going along with the LGBTQ BLM agenda?
How do you explain every church in the 1400s demanding that men shave their beards?
It's a theological fad, it's going to go away.
All right, now let's see here.
Oh, Shen Chan 256b says the white man's real weakness, big titties.
It's a shame, but big titties are the most.
Jews use against us, asses are for dudes and darkies.
I actually shouldn't say that.
He says that's gay.
I usually bleep those types of comments.
Now, let's see.
Those are all the super chats.
Rand, did you have your question?
Then we can get to the callers.
Yes.
All right.
So, gentlemen, you know, like as an esoteric Hitlerist, you know, I find all these Bible fighting to be counterproductive.
All right.
So, gentlemen, are you for this for both of you?
Are you familiar with the establishment of the Silk Road around about the 11th century?
Vaguely.
Somewhat.
It's the greatest expansion of Jewish power into both mercantile and political into a territory that they previously could not access.
Okay.
All right.
So they wrote off the back of Genghis Khan.
You may have heard of him.
They could not access that area previously due to the fractious nature of the tribes, the intercene warfare, outsiders being attacked on site.
Once Genghis Khan had unified that area and also made it an offense punishable by death for emissaries to be attacked, well, his court was immediately treated by emissaries.
Can you imagine the configuration of the hats worn by some of those emissaries?
They're probably very small, weren't they?
They were probably very, very small indeed.
So within, remember, this is within one man's lifetime.
Genghis Khan was, I believe, already in his early 40s by the time he'd unified Greater Mongolia.
So the establishment of the Silk Road.
Hold on one, Rand.
Wait, wait, wait, one sec, one sec.
Jesus is Jewish.
Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic cults.
What's the debate?
All right.
No, go ahead, Rand.
Sorry, I forgot.
Now, I know this has very little, well, may have seemingly has little to do with Christianity, but I'm working towards a point here.
So they established this commercial structure.
And in fact, we see like the first proto-examples of corporations emerging within a barbarian empire within 20 years and established with such strength that with the breakup of the Karganate into the Golden Horde,
divided between Genghis Khan's four sons and then further and further falling back into tribal division, but with the establishment of the precedents that had been set, they were still able to maintain the Silk Road all the way from Europe to the shores of China.
Now, this that probably should have done this sober.
I was just going to say, you sounded sober.
I know.
I was thinking that too.
I was like, Rand, did you sell that?
Wow.
The point is that this is these people moving into a vacuum.
It's about their infiltration into structures and society.
Now, you've been arguing from almost a purely religious standpoint.
You've been ignoring race and culture here.
Now, once there was an opportunity, once there was a political opportunity for these people to move in, they moved in.
They, in fact, exploited that to, you may have heard about the opening, like another example, the opening of the gates of Toledo, these sorts of things.
These people exploit the power they have to further the power.
They were literally using the literally using the Karghanate and then later the golden horde, feeding them inside information.
Bear in mind, these were highly literate people in an age where most people were completely illiterate to give them information of the next city to raid, the next place to go, and then using their contacts within those cities to do things such as raise walls, instigate dissent.
And then their soldiers.
Then the soldiers of the would ran.
What is the question?
I'm getting to the point.
Jesus would kill the local nobility and who would they place in power in their stead?
You know, to be their dutiful servants.
Jews.
Jews.
They were constantly feeding this war machine that, in fact, is a great example of early consumerism.
They constantly needed to raid, constantly needed to consume, and they were being chipped and that that wealth was being fed back into the middlemen.
The middlemen all the way along the Silk Road, but profiting the way they always profit, gaining power the way they always gain power by using proxy soldiers.
Now, let's move into the modern...
We get to the mid to late 1960s.
Up to that point, Christianity, and this is storied in history.
Christianity has famously been one of the most bulkwood against Jewish influence.
The whole meme kicked out of 109 countries.
Sometimes they've been kicked out of the same country multiple times as outlined.
Now, this is an assertion, not a question, by the way.
I just want to point out.
What is seen about the behavior of these people fades into myth, and people go, oh, that's just a fairy tale.
Then those people move back in and do what they've always done.
But out of all the religions of the world, Christianity has actually been the most effective facilitating the removal of these people and the breakup of their schemes.
You can't name another religion that has stood better against it.
Definitely not the Muslims who have been inculcated with Jewish middle management time and time and time again, the Ottoman Empire being a more recent historical example.
In fact, Christianity has been such a bulkwood.
You said, why didn't God carve his name into the mountains?
How about the Christians named Do Not Trust the Jew into the stone of their temples, into the stones of their cathedrals?
Yet they worship a Jew.
Something that was celebrated by Jews when Notre Dame burnt down.
This is where I say your blind spot here is you're ignoring race and culture because why has Christianity become the zombie carrier of Judaism?
Because it's Europe, man.
It's about Europe.
What was the most technologically advanced place in the 1850s?
Europe.
Where do the newspapers come from?
Later, the radio, mass media.
It's Europe.
The whole world was the main target of Christianity.
It was not the church that they went to first.
It was not the church that they went to first.
They went to the newspaper.
They went to the radio.
In fact, they deliberately, and this, and we have the historical example, we have this written down because that's what Europeans do.
They write shit down.
We can historically point to Jewish infiltration, how they've done it.
The names, the dates, the people, the names.
As they've done it.
We know for a fact that the Jewish-controlled newswire services helped facilitate Europe's first suicide attempt, that being the First World War, which led directly to the Second World War.
And after that, after that greatest historical example of resistance to Jewish, the Jewish obsession with power and dominance ever in the world, once that resistance had been smashed, it was open slather.
That's when you see the mass change of zombification of Christianity.
I was raised as a Christian.
I saw the church change in my lifetime.
There is stuff happening now that absolutely would not have flown as a child.
And everybody knows that.
Miles has talked about the reaction of the church, how some people flee the church, Other people go into more traditional, more traditional examples of the church because Christianity as it is now is rotten.
To answer your question, Adam, talking about Jewish infiltration from the start, Paul actually talks about the infiltration of Judaizers into the church.
I hope they get their balls cut off.
Now, let Adam to be fair.
Hold on, let Adam, because he kind of, I mean, you kind of took the other side of the debate, basically.
So that's why I was like, all right, well, now, okay, go ahead and respond, Adam, because he's basically talking about Jews as middlemen on the Silk Road reminds me of not the greatest idea for Christianity to delegate usury and money lending to the Jews.
And then in the Torah, it says that they shall lend to the nations and reign over the nations.
So not the best.
They're quite often expelled for exactly that behavior, and it's documented.
Well, it didn't work out so well for us.
Look who's running the banks now.
And also, you say, oh, we've always opposed them for 1,600 years.
I've talked about this.
This was the purpose of the controlled opposition to persecute them, to turn us into the villains.
Now we have the narrative, oh, evay, they're kicked out of all the countries, the anti-sound, Christian anti-Semitism, the pogroms.
Christians get the blame.
They're the villains of history, and the Jews are using that victim complex at the end.
You think it's all just an accident, and they just happened to subvert and co-opt it?
I think they co-opted it in the beginning, and it was meant to be destroyed.
Your argument is this is a 2,000-year plan, and I simply don't see it.
I'll agree with you that Christianity is the shoe on the Jews' foot and has been for about 100, possibly 150 years.
But it's not just religion, it's culture, it's race, it's what was going on at the time.
I think there is a huge blind spot in your argument when you're ignoring the politics, the politics, and the technological advances, and the emergent industries.
Well, I'm not ignoring all that, but Christianity is undoubtedly one of the most, their greatest weapon against the Gentile world.
That's simply not the case.
Christian cultures have opposed everything the Jews have been trying to do.
Sodomy, usury, pornography, all of that have been opposed by Christian societies.
And it's only now as we're seeing a huge rise in prosperity and more and more people are saying, What do I need with God?
That has been the key trigger.
We're seeing more and more people ignore morality, ignore Christianity, ignoring the gospel message.
That we're seeing more and more and more Jewish infiltration into more and more and more cultural touchstones that we've had for a thousand years.
It's only as we abandon the church that the Jews come in and take over.
They live in the swamps of our sins.
All right, now very allegorical.
I see Kent says, Adam, you moron, you can forgive people and not let them live among you.
Like, I don't want Africans or Jews to be damned for eternity, but I also don't want them among me.
I didn't say anything about having people among us.
What are they talking about?
I don't know.
This is where he's saying.
Then he said, I just read him.
He says, A Christian, some of them, a Christian can have strong borders.
See all of history before 1900.
That's just what he said.
Well, this is super true.
All right.
Amogus.
Amogus.
Thank you, Gator.
Then Kent said this: Adam, if Christians once again started redacting Jews and banning Israel, what would your narrative be?
If defeating Jews is part of the plan, how in God's name do you stop this thousands-year-long plot?
Say that again?
The last part?
Let's see.
If defeating Jews is part of the plan, how in God's name do you stop this thousands-year-long plot?
If defeating Jews is part of the plan, I'd say if there weren't so many Christian Zionists in America, the Jews would have far less power.
They wouldn't have gotten, there probably wouldn't even be in Israel.
The Balfour Declaration, he was a Christian Zionist, the whole impetus to the anti-Semitism narrative that they used to justify Israel, the whole suffering and atonement.
I did a video about this, about rabbis basically saying that God did the Holocaust and that it was a good thing for them, and it saved them from assimilation.
Assimilation is their greatest threat, and Christianity kept them separate.
It kept them Believing that they're chosen because they're hated.
And really, this has been a deception on the vast majority of Jews as well.
They're under the chains of Yahweh also.
So, wait, you're saying assimilation is the worst thing that could happen to the Jewish people.
So, are you?
Are you saying religious Jews?
They say that they are the people who shall dwell alone.
That's how they see themselves.
They always see themselves as the insider in an outsider.
That's why so many schism.
I think that's what they're saying.
Israel at all.
You will find no shortage of Jews who will say that the establishment of an actual nation for Jews was a great mistake for the race.
You will find Jews saying that to this day.
There was a lot of anti-Zionist Jews saying it would cause more anti-Semitism.
Because it would be better for the world, but it doesn't be better for them.
They still like the Christian anti-Semitism.
They complain about it a lot, but that's their Trump card.
That's what they use to play the victim.
It's like a tepid anti-Semitism.
They literally had a Trump card recently.
I love when you go to the synagogue of Satan and kill deicide.
They get to Kvetch all about it, turn him into the martyrs.
I'm going to run critics.
Okay, go ahead.
Don't do anything.
That's the core component.
All right.
Basement Wizard says, Rand giving us the point-by-point summary of three months' worth of FTN episodes, Facebook.
Yeah, that's how it works.
All right.
Now, that's never happened before on the kill stream.
Felix says, by the way, thank you.
Very kind, Felix.
Why they do it?
Felix with a 50 over on entropy.
Thank you, man.
Very kind.
I have to say that.
No, how many reasons?
Are we supposed to hoard information and not pass it on?
He says, thanks for hosting this debate, bro.
Can you post the Discord link in Odyssey?
I can, and I'll post it again while I'm thinking about it.
If you're listening right now, there it is.
You should hear me by now.
Let's see.
A couple of these, I think, are toward Adam.
Wait, can I make a hold on?
Wait, hold on.
Let's see.
Oh, Tuchin, this is again, he said, Jesus literally said, I'm the truth, the way, and the life.
What the heck?
He's still on you about that.
Miles.
Mr. Lennon says, please make sure Shipwiper is able to call in.
You're a hero and a king, Ralph.
Best content on the internet.
Been trying to subscribe to your premium site for a month.
What is going on?
It hasn't been down for a month.
Solid, but it has been down like two or three weeks now.
And I have a call with him tomorrow, and it's coming back.
I was like, I hope this is not a bad call, is it?
It's been two weeks.
And they said, no, but there's like three or four different things we can do here.
I don't know if that means different options, like new bells and whistles or oh, very cute baby there.
There's the cute baby.
And then also, I don't know if it's, I don't really know what that's all about, but I guess there's a few different modes or models or whatever.
I don't know.
I don't want to get into it too much.
But anyway, I'll talk to him tomorrow.
And so hopefully, I don't know.
Tomorrow I'll know more.
And it is coming back, though, still.
It's not gone forever or anything like that.
I do know that it's annoying as fuck, especially when everybody was so used to using it every day.
And I could see the stats, and I know that was the case.
And it makes me very angry, too.
But, you know, the assholes that fucking attack the site made that necessary.
So I will give them kudos on that front.
But the fucking site is coming back.
And every single one of those motherfuckers can suck my fucking dick.
And I hope they're listening.
Probably not the smartest idea to brag about, you know, committing felonies.
Yeah, and look, you ain't stopped shit, bitch.
You will never fucking stop shit.
Period.
Nate News, he said Adam Greenberg.
I don't know.
I know you hear that.
So that's all the Christians can say is you're a Jew because you don't believe in the Jewish Torah and the Jewish Messiah.
It's retarded.
And, you know, point out shit.
Brainwashed.
Laying out arguments and pointing out flaws in your arguments.
But let's just ignore it.
All right.
Arcade Outpost says it's not even a long game.
It's a psychological game that worked for them whenever they go.
They were even pandered to by the church over Simon of Trent.
He said the difference now is that things are globalized, so it is super effective.
Okay, now let's take some calls.
Shitwipers.
Please take Mongo's Kikamura.
I will take every single call.
Shit Wiper, go ahead.
Hey, what's up, guys?
Made a new right on.
Yeah, she got the first call because she asked me.
Go ahead.
Yo.
Adam, I want to say I love where you're coming from.
I hear your arguments.
I have some things that I would add to them to help tighten it up, but I think you're right.
Right enough.
Miles, my opinion on the argument is that you've come across in typical Christian form as sort of like a coping, arrogant prick.
That's my personal take.
I like the comment that came through earlier on the hyper-rationalistic arguments that Christians like to make where they will try to hone in on what is even truth and what's your proof that this insane supernatural thing didn't happen.
You haven't disproven it.
Therefore, I'm totally reasonable to believe in it.
And you're not really.
You are fundamentally misunderstanding what constitutes burden of proof.
When Adam is going to say, say, assert that God doesn't exist, that's a claim to knowledge.
That requires you to know.
How have I said knowledge?
I said Yahweh, the Hebrew God of Israel, is a lie.
Have you bothered to support that at all?
No, you haven't.
You have not bothered to dispute that at all.
You haven't that it's real?
I certainly can.
The burden of proof's on you to prove Yahweh is real.
The burden on proof is you to prove that he's not.
Hold on.
That's important.
Hold on.
So you're not saying that there's no God.
I'm not.
I'm not making that.
I'm not saying everybody should be atheist.
Not at all.
Okay.
Well, yeah, I don't think that that's been fully pointed out the whole time.
You're just saying that the God of Yahweh, like you said, is false.
The Jewish God to control your mind.
That is a claim to knowledge.
That requires proof, which you haven't provided.
Elle says no one says that.
Yeah, a lot of people do say that.
What are you talking about?
People said there was no problem.
People say that all the fucking time.
What do you mean?
Now, granted, when challenged, they'll usually say, well, I just simply lack belief, which, how good is your argument?
How much faith do you have in your argument or your position where you have to run away from your burden of proof and be like, no, no, no, no, that's not what I believe.
Please don't tell me that's what I do.
How do you can't prove a negative, though?
Yes, you absolutely can.
You're making that God said all these things and you have no proof of it.
I'm saying, where's the proof?
You don't have any atheists.
We have early documentary evidence that you are ignoring.
Furthermore, you can't absolutely prove a negative.
There is no such thing as a square circle.
That is a self-refuting statement.
I have just proved a negative.
Furthermore, it is also a rational logic.
Probably by undermining a rational warrant for belief.
Thank you very much.
You have failed logic 100%.
All right, let the caller.
Go ahead.
Finish up, caller.
Listening to Adam talk to this guy is just like when I've talked to flat earthers and when I ask them, hey, if you think that the earth is flat, then what's up with satellites?
Why do I have a satellite dish on my house?
Where's that signal coming from?
And they'll say, I don't know.
It could be coming from everywhere, but you haven't proven that it's not, that it's a satellite.
You haven't taken me to space and proven the thing.
It's like, yeah, dude, it's a fucking satellite beaming information to the dish on my house.
That's what it is.
Just get out of here with your bullshit.
And that's what it's like talking to a Christian.
So again, you're doing the same thing.
You haven't discovered credulity.
Therefore, it's the earth could be flat because you haven't proven that it's not.
And look at your earthly.
You've got documents from 40 years after Jesus' death.
And it's like all so, it's so flimsy.
But also, final note, if I could just say one last thing.
I think the best proof for the God of the Jews is the fact that we are dealing with them with these plans that they seem to be cashing in on centuries after that they were laid.
If anything, that's the best proof that they actually do have some sort of supernatural tapped in energy.
And God fucking sucks.
I hate their God.
I hope it's.
All right.
Thank you, Schoiver.
I appreciate you, man.
Thank you for the support.
There's nothing supernatural about them.
They don't have magical powers.
That's an Alex Jones lie.
They don't have magical powers.
But they just came up with a deceptive, duplicitous plot, a script to follow in their scriptures.
I don't know.
2,000 years before the fact with no documentary evidence whatsoever.
Why is it impossible for them to have a long-term plan?
They couldn't win with no evidence for it whatsoever, laying out this long-term plan that you're asserting is true.
This is the brain of the Gentiles will be fulfilled at the end of the age.
What do you think that is?
That's a vague prediction.
Now let's go ahead and you're at Z. Okay, you're at Z. Now let's go ahead and get B, C, D, E, F, P, Q, R, all the rest of them.
Let's go ahead and get the steps.
We have the steps of the Balfour Declaration.
We have the steps of the Fed.
We know how they got in power in the Middle Ages.
We know how they got in power in the 1800s, the 1900s, the 2000s, 2021.
We have all of this.
We have the Jewish triumphalism in Haretz and the Jewish daily forward.
We have all these things of Jews talking to each other.
Why aren't they talking to each other about the Jesus?
Rome conquered Judea and destroyed their temple.
And then 400 years later, we're worshiping their gods.
Who really won there?
Christians.
Who won in the end?
Christians.
The Jews did, man.
They wanted the pagans to abandon their God.
The Old Testament, the goal was for the non-Jewish world to worship Yahweh.
And they achieved that with Christianity.
So they came up with a hoax.
They came up with a hoax that is inherently unattractive to a warrior culture like Rome.
A criminal who died.
That is what the Jews are telling the Gentiles to worship.
You need to worship this criminal, Goy.
Do you really expect that?
If there's nothing, they framed him as anti-Jewish so they could co-opt their opposition.
So what?
So it's all about the Galean dialectic, controlled opposition, deception.
This is the obvious controlled opposition deception.
Then why didn't they try to prop up another anti-Jewish why didn't they prop up Barabbas?
Why didn't they prop up any sort of other Barabbas didn't exist?
It's a fictional character.
Can you assert it?
Can you prove that?
Can you give me good reasons for that?
He's tested in history, which you're ignoring, by the way.
There's no gospels are not history, dude.
They're fiction.
All right, look.
Look, Miles, look, we're going to have to get this.
We're going to stop because we've got to keep this.
We're quoting the entirety of New Testament.
All right, stop, stop.
Hold on.
We're quoting like two guys.
How do you prove he existed?
Go ahead, Ralph.
Just hold on.
We can't start up a full argument after every single caller because if we do that, we'll never get through even like one-third of these callers because just of time.
Just one word.
So just let's, we can still do it, but just like, let's cut it for a sec, you know?
All right.
Go ahead, Kent.
All right.
Let me know what we're on.
You're on now.
Yeah.
All right.
I mean, Adam seems to be going along the lines, the philosophical lines of if you fight your enemies, you'll win, like Kennedy and Justin Trey do.
So what's strange to me is Adam thinks that the Romans were cool by defeating the Jews when they defeated them at the Battle of Masada, but Christians were wrong when they kicked them out of 109 countries, and that proves they're part of some long conspiracy.
I mean, this doesn't connect.
Christians have a longer history of subverting the interests and stopping the power of Jews than any other group in history.
To think that this is some method of control that the Jews have put upon Christians that they're forcing them to oppress them is silly.
It's retarded.
Number one, I'm not saying don't fight the Jews or oppose the Jews.
I'm saying do it in the right way, not in their controlled, limited, hangout, dialectical way where you also worship their Messiah and their God and believe their fake chosenness.
And no, you know, to say, oh, the Christians always oppose the Jews.
How do you know?
If the last 2,000 years of Christianity hypothetically never exists, how do you know that the non-Jewish world is Judaism might not even exist if it wasn't for Christianity all this time?
To say that a non-Jewish world wouldn't have kept them in check more, you don't know that and you can't say.
There are tons of religions that have existed.
Christianity failed because we had Christianity and now it's been co-opted by Jewish power.
When did it get co-opted in the last 150 years or 2,000 years?
It still happened.
It still failed.
Name a better system then.
Come up with an alternative.
There's no other systems because they conquered the world.
Thank you.
All right.
So killing.
Thank you for that.
Because they took over.
And now we're handing the world over to the Jews according to their prophecies.
Great.
That's a ridiculous code.
You know.
But their top rabbis all say it.
That it's.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, 2,000 years after the fact.
Okay.
All right.
No.
You want late attestations?
You can put your hand in the sand and be in denial and rationalize.
Also, go ahead.
Can't finish your thoughts.
All right.
Well, just, I mean, I challenge Adam to name a more successful group at suppressing Jewish interests and belief than Christians.
There isn't any.
I mean, there's no atheist group that comes in and saves the day.
There's no other belief system that directly opposes Judaism, right?
It doesn't exist.
That they're supremacist, anti-human, not because they rejected their Messiah.
That's a limited hangout way of hating them.
And left them alive.
We're talking about middle-aged peasants.
You got to keep it drug.
All right.
Oh, and by the way, Adam believes in the Holocaust.
So if you kill all the Jews, right?
That's wrong too.
That's their plan.
So killing all the Jews is wrong.
Can't get off the air.
I've done videos exposing the Holocaust narrative and how it played into their hands and how they wanted it and how they claim it fulfilled their prophecies and all that stuff.
It's such a lie to say he believes in it.
Like I believe the Hollywood version or something.
All right.
Anybody, by the way, no, no, no, no.
Just don't say dumb shit like that.
I'll just get one query.
Look, because this is the second time you've used that.
What do you mean it fell into their hands?
It's their narrative.
I didn't did I say fall into their hands?
Twice.
I said in what the Holocaust narrative fell into their hands.
You've said that twice now.
Did I say that?
I find that they created it.
They created it.
Yeah, that's it.
They shaped it.
I just wanted to clarify.
The opinion number was out decades before.
You can see in the Talmud calling for an anti-Semitic ruler to come and do harsh decrees and force them to go back on their path.
I've done several long documentaries about this topic.
All right.
Now, let's see.
We've got another caller.
I'm just going to grab this one.
White Wolf, go ahead.
White Wolf.
My question is for Miles.
I was just wondering what your cope was, that the non-white world is becoming more Christian and the white world is becoming less Christian.
That's some nice loaded language you got there.
I am glad that more and more people are coming to Christianity.
They can stay in their home countries.
That is my explanation for that.
As for the white world becoming less and less Christian, this is not a surprise.
As prosperity increases, more and more people start slacking off on the day-to-day basics, the underpinnings of civilization.
And we see, I mean, how many times, I bet you've caller.
I bet you've quoted the meme yourself.
Tough men build good times.
Good times make weak men.
Weak men make tough times.
Tough times make tough men.
It's the same civilizational cycle over and over and over again.
And we see it all the time.
We see it with a degeneration of sexuality, like in the British and Ottoman Empire.
We also have a great book called Sex and Culture by J.D. Unwin that talks about as you start to slack off on sexual morality, civilization gets destroyed.
We see civilizations being destroyed through usury, through the debasement of currency, through slavery displacing yeoman labor, like in the Roman Empire.
So as you see more and more prosperity, people start caring less and less.
They start taking more and more of civilization for granted and they stop doing the basics.
Christianity affirms the basics of civilization.
It is perpetuating civilization.
And it shouldn't be surprising that normal people are abandoning it as they start staring into their smartphones and looking at TikTok and getting meals on or getting a DoorDash.
Why is that surprising to you?
The idea that Europeans need Christianity to have a good civilization is so degrading to your ancestors.
The idea that you need Jewish Myths in order to have progress in the world or to have a good society is just ridiculous.
Well, let's take a look at what happens when we abandon Christianity.
Christianity threw us into the darkness.
Anti-science, anti-reason.
No, anti-law.
Science originated in the Christian Middle Ages.
God's Philosophers.
Excellent book.
Look it up.
Would you say Christianity?
Yeah, go ahead and shake your head more.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You don't know.
You only know.
You can summon blood magic.
You know what you're talking about.
Have you ever read a single source that I disagree in the Exodus?
Have you ever read a single document that disagrees?
Have you ever?
Have you even read the Bible?
I have.
No, you haven't any of my videos.
You haven't.
Have I read the Bible?
This is what it gets down.
You don't understand.
You're too dumb.
All the millions of people are going to be able to do that.
I'm not calling you dumb.
I'm calling you illiterate, low IQ retards, people in prison, third world countries.
They all believe it, but me, Adam, oh, he doesn't believe, so he must just be too stupid.
I'm calling you ignorant, you digstick.
If I wanted to call you dumb, I'd call you dumb.
I called David Scurbina dumb.
I complimented you during that episode, by the way.
If I wanted to call you dumb, I'd call you a fucking dumbass.
Dude, I had 130 IQ.
Well, dude, you believe in Jewish fairy tales.
So I don't have to call you any next.
Oh, well, the high IQ position is Christianity, buddy.
I got you beaten by an order of magnitude, or excuse me, a standard deviation.
Oh, let's go ahead and argue again.
Let's go ahead and argue from qualifications again, Adam.
Come on, bring it on, buddy.
Let's do that, Scholar, Ralph.
All right.
Well, let's see.
Thank you.
You got nothing, you got nothing, Adam.
Come on.
All right, Super Lutheran, following what you're saying, you're all over the place.
Super Lutheran, go ahead.
Hi there.
Hello.
I'm Miles' pastor buddy here.
Okay, cool.
Go ahead.
The Lutheran?
Yeah.
So, okay, a couple things for Surfer Jesus here.
So, first of all.
Surfer Jesus.
Real quick, are you willing to identify your personal religion or worldview?
Because a lot of people are asking me.
I'm non-religious.
What does that mean?
Are you agnostic, atheist?
What?
On the God question.
I don't know that there's a God, but I don't say that I know for a fact that there isn't a God.
I'm highly skeptical of Jews pretending to speak for God and telling me to fear their God, otherwise I'm going to burn in hell forever.
Okay, so what I'm seeing here is if I could come up with a good motive that the Jews decided to invent the systems of belief that you identify with now.
And I came up with certain spurious quotes from their religious texts that made it sound like, oh boy, this is pretty plausible.
Does that automatically make it true that your Weltanschong, your worldview, is automatically a tool of Jewish slavery?
Because when you have a lot of this is you're going to say that atheism is Jewish.
No, no, you have that.
What I'm saying is if we apply this to anything else, it breaks down.
You have a potential motive and you have some stuff that the way you word it makes it sound plausible, but you don't really have anything other than that motive that you keep hammering on and hammering on.
You think I sound plausible?
It's kind of you to say that.
Well, I mean, anything can sound plausible with slick enough language.
I mean, crying out loud.
Islam.
I'm slick.
I got slick language too.
Thank you.
All types of backhanded compliments here.
No, I'll give you the, I'll give you that.
You argue pretty slickly.
What I'm seeing is God.
When I argue slickly, it's been a compelling argument because obviously Christianity has been weaponized by the Jews, and it's very extremely likely that it was set up that way.
That was its purpose all along.
Okay, about that.
That's brings me to mindset to see where we're at.
All the things point to me that it was a deliberate deception.
Okay, so that second thing now, you rely on Kabbalah, right?
I don't rely on Kabbalah, but there are some aspects of Kabbalah that kind of point to the fact that they're secretly talking about Christianity being a deception to subjugate the Gentiles.
Okay, so about that.
I'm seminary educated, had to do a big comparative religion project on Judaism, right?
Still seeming to okay, trying to listen to you watching the stream.
It's a little confusing here.
So the earliest Kabbalistic document that is known as Proto-Kabbalah shows up in the Sefer Yetzera, which is in about 350 BC.
We don't see full-blown Kabbalah Kabbalah, it was like the Bahir or the Zohar until Middle Ages to the Renaissance era.
Now, the Talmud does say it does recognize what is called Merkaba theology or Merkaba mysticism.
And it bars people except the highest of sages from reading and learning it, from learning Merkaba mysticism.
So this includes members of the Sanhedrin would be allowed.
Members of the super, super, super important Hillel and Shammai schools of Judaism would be permitted to learn Macaba mysticism, but everybody else is banned.
Now, what did the members of the Sanhedrin and the Hillel and Shammai schools of rabbinical Judaism say about Christianity?
What did they say about Christ?
They've believed that Christianity and Jesus represents Satan, that Esau represents Edom and Christianity, right?
In current.
No disputing that all over the rabbinical Judaism.
That's what they believe.
And they believe the Garden of the Bible called the Toledo Yeshua, which describes the slanders against Christ as a mystic that went rogue.
You do realize this, right?
Say that again.
What describes him as a mystic that went rogue, the Talmud?
No, the Toledo Yeshu, which is an early parody of the Christian Gospels.
And it includes all the same things we've always heard from the Jews, like Pantera, the Roman soldier, that kind of thing.
Say the name of that again.
Something Yeshua?
I'm not Yeshua.
And for the chat, it's not that I'm not letting Adam speak.
It's just that his audio is cutting out for me.
Okay, well, can you hear him now?
Say something, Adam.
Wait, I can hear you.
He wasn't talking.
I don't know.
He said he was having problems hearing you.
I can hear you.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not getting that.
Well, he made a point, though, that I want to explain is that Jews believe that Christianity and the Gentiles are, that our guardian angel is Satan.
And who is the God of the Gentiles?
Who do the Gentiles worship?
Jesus.
They believe that Christianity is a satanic religion.
We're evil and satanic, and we want to kill them.
That's the whole narrative they set up.
And we fell into the trap they created.
The antithetical, counterpart, dialectical religion that represents the satanic other side.
I've covered this much more in depth in some ways.
Yeah, but in the earliest documents that we have from Jews that would have had the authority to learn Merkaba mysticism, proto-Kabbalism.
There was laws about not writing Jesus.
And they had a simple standing down orally.
And I think the secrets is that for the only the insiders knew that Christianity was a hoax.
But the insiders.
Are they not all about deception?
And they talked about Jesus in a way that was later on found by Gentiles claiming that he was a rival mystic, not a stand-in for Satan.
Now, that does show up in much, much, much later stuff where they're more open about this idea of him being Satan.
But you got to hand it to later Kabbalah where they're willing to make those comparisons after Hermetic influence came into Kabbalah.
Yes, like the Zohar was written in, what is it, 1200s.
There's also other Sefer, HaMashi book of creations and stuff.
And yes, these are written down later, but that doesn't mean that this was an oral law that they had since before Christianity.
Well, for 1100 years.
Dude, what is wrong with having it for a long time or having a long plan?
1100 years.
1100 years.
Do you want to know what the actual problem is?
According to virtually every scholar, every bit of scholarship on the topic of oral histories, you get to about 300 years before you start seeing mysticism and other stuff creeping in.
You don't make it past 300 years.
Yes, because early Gnostic, pre-Christian Jewish Gnostics is very similar.
It's based upon Platonism and it's very similar to Kabbalah.
That was written down almost immediately within 50 years.
I do got to ask about your standards, why you're willing to say that there can be 19 centuries of oral tradition that is perfectly preserved among Jews.
Not 19 years.
The earliest extant copies of the Gospels can't be trusted because that's too late.
Color, I'm going to have to move on.
Thank you for coming in.
trust it.
I'm just saying this is what they preach.
I'm not saying it's real.
I don't believe any of the delusions in the Kabbalah or any of the Jewish books.
They're all fairy tales.
But you're saying that those are reliable.
This is what the Jews actually think.
Based on evidence that you deny these things.
All right, now let me take another caller.
Serpentarius, go ahead.
Serpentarius, sir.
Hello.
I know it did take a while to get some of the calls.
I apologize on that.
There's a couple super chats I haven't read, too.
I saw these over on Entropy, actually.
Let's see.
Frederick McKenzie says, Paul wanted to fulfill the Jewish law.
He maintained the fundamental commandment of the Torah.
Worship only Yahweh, the Jewish national God.
Let's see here.
By the way, Adam, real quick, if you check in chat, the word that you asked the caller about is in there.
All right.
Kylie Yuga Surf Company says, great show, Ralph.
Check the mail.
I will do, man.
Thank you.
Much appreciated.
I'll go to the P.O. box very soon.
Angolingus, I'll show the screen at the end.
I forget it right off the top of my head.
I had it memorized forever.
Angelingus McNeed says, what's this nibble going to do if he gets to heaven and it's full of Christian converted Ashkenazi's lol?
What a nightmare.
That's pretty good.
Now, let's see.
Timber Sycamore says in Jewish Revolutionary Spirit by E. Michael Jones, it details how the Catholic Church has protected Jews over and over whenever the masses try to go after them.
And Jews have subverted the church with Masonic cults and the conversion crisis, I guess, I think.
Converso, excuse me.
Converso crisis.
All right, now let's see.
Frederick McKenzie, I read that.
Then he said, see, for example, the house of Rothschild by Niall Ferguson.
Jews were able to take down Napoleon through their financial power.
They rose to financial dominance within Christian Europe, not secular Europe.
Well, yeah, because, yeah, they took over the moneylending trade because it was seen as like unchristian.
Jews are doing great and sacred.
Who's doing that with their mic?
What's going on here?
Can we not do that?
Whoever's doing that?
Or mute yourself?
Oh, I don't know.
I don't know who's that.
Where is that coming from?
Mr. Lennon says, Adam, do you say Christian Zionism got the Jews to Israel?
What do you say about Christianity getting white Europeans to America?
I'd say that the Vikings came to America long before Columbus, a thousand years ago.
No, let's see.
I like that.
Okay, I see somebody.
Oh, righty Titi91 had one on Cash App.
He says, there's a difference in hating and resenting God and not believing.
I was agnostic till I had kids.
Still unsure, but I'm not mad at God anymore.
I'm thankful I'm alive and raising a family.
I'll never understand a close God relationship, but I'd claim him as loud as possible just to piss off the shitlibs.
Plus, God believers are less likely to cave to commies or government.
Let's see.
Shout out to Sam Fortune over on Cash App.
I'll read those later too.
Let's see.
Where is this?
Moneyman.
I like that name.
Sometimes I'll see some fake names over there on Cash App.
I don't read them out unless they're fake.
So be careful.
But I always check and see.
Let's see.
Hey, Adam, have you read Father Sephirim's Seraphims?
I guess Seraphim Rose.
Seraphim Rose is Orthodox.
You haven't read that?
He says he's an Orthodox Christian who mentioned the protocols of Zion and how to combat against it.
Non-denominational Christianity also isn't what Jesus preached.
Okay.
Then let's see.
Mr. Lennon says, Adam, you say Christian Zionism got the Jews to Israel.
What do you say about Christianity getting white?
I already read that one.
God damn it.
How did I read that back to back?
Okay.
Now, let me see.
All right.
Let's just roll through these.
We're going to have to go a little quicker.
Cooper, go ahead.
We're going to have to move a little quicker, though, because we'll just have to.
We'll never get through.
Go ahead.
No.
No, yeah, you're fine.
Do you believe in evolution?
Who?
Adam.
Are you asking everybody?
Yeah.
No, I think that's the most plausible explanation we have for life on earth.
Jewish evolution?
Okay.
And I'm sure you believe in the Big Bang then?
Not necessarily.
Well, I mean, Jewish, all of Space.
The Catholic Church came in with satellite and the Big Bang.
Sorry.
No, wait, wait.
He said the Catholic Church believes in evolution and the Big Bang.
I don't know.
I mean, that's recorded.
Yeah, okay.
Well, they're faggots.
You know, it's what do you think happened?
You think God just snapped his fingers and Adam and Eve were created?
Just materialized out of nothing a few thousand years ago?
You think that's a better thing?
Dwelling on it and fighting about it is pointless, but I think everything that's happening here on Earth, there's a lot of stuff going on.
And anytime we try to distract ourselves to explore elsewhere to say, hey, we're minimalist and you, Adam, are just a little speck of nothing.
And, you know, that's all you are versus, hey, we're on Earth and everything you do has an impact.
That's a different game.
We're in a universe with like trillions of galaxies.
Exactly.
So, like, if you didn't have that thought, which is Jewish scientists, scientists, like that whole concept of all those galaxies, and that's Jewish science.
I promise you.
So, you're a flat earther.
You think the stars are fake?
Just like a firmament faking us, faking us out?
No, I mean, we're astrologers.
There's clearly architecture out there that follows the stars.
I don't know what, you know, I don't know anything about it, but it's not like I'm trying to claim that information goes to a fucking satellite.
Ralph was on a fucking plane.
You think that phone goes to space?
No, it just goes back down to the ground to a fucking satellite tower.
All right, no, you're getting sounds really credible.
You're getting into a separate topic, Cupert.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
Well, but either way, I mean, just, you know, the science is its own religion.
And if you believe in Darwinism, well, there you go.
You know, that's that's evolution is just Darwinistic beliefs, you know, and that's it's fake and gay, just like space.
All right.
Thank you, Cooper.
Thank you.
Do you believe in evolution, Miles?
I do, yes.
Fake and gay.
And Jewish.
But I know a lot of Christians like that, though.
That will just say, well, that's just established that guy.
Well, they'll just say that that's.
And again, I'm moderator head on.
They'll just say that.
They're going to attack you for this, Miles.
You know that, right?
Oh, no, I have this conversation all the time.
I'm an old Earth guy.
Old Earth limited flood.
I have no problem with it.
They'll just say it's like a tool of God.
Basically, God came up with evolution.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
God ordered the university.
Well, that's the simplest way to explain it.
If you're Christian, you just say, well, yeah, of course, it's real, but God, I mean, that was God that did that.
All right, now.
Let's see.
I saw Shin Shan drop something in there.
Thank you very kindly for that, sir.
He says, I know that Christian nations have fought against the Jew such as usury.
What about the Christian nations that have defended Jews?
Was the push against Jews due to Christianity, or was it just ethnic push against an invader manipulating the culture and economy?
Within a lot of these European societies, you actually had a fairly broad European ethnic mix, especially in some of the more metropolitan areas, like say the Holy Roman Empire or in France or in England or in Germany or some such.
So having ethnic outsiders wouldn't have been such a huge thing.
I think it's a 50-50 mix between recognition of an ethnic outside in Ashkenazi Jews and they're not Christian ergo.
We cannot trust them.
I think it's a mix of the two.
All right.
Now let's see here.
Basement Wizard says, funny that we have this hours-long intense debate about Christianity.
Then the topic of the Holocaust comes up and both sides just instantly agree.
Like, well, yeah, that's obviously fake.
Carvin says, hey, Ralph, hope you're feeling better after your health issue today.
Big shout out to Rand and Adam, both cool dudes with high IQs.
Shout out, Rand.
Thank you for the kind of thanks.
Oh, go ahead.
I got to feel like he might be like that might be one of those subtle little things that someone's left out by a mission.
Ralph?
I don't know.
Ralph's a genius.
Yeah.
I'm the one here counting the super chats.
I must be doing something.
Ralph's the reason that we're here.
He's got a way to monetize shifling.
All right.
Now, Basement Wizard.
Okay, read that one.
I think I read them all.
Oh, no.
Shin Chan256B says, I swear to fucking God, Odyssey needs to get a fucking phone app.
This shit is fucking annoying on a phone browser.
Tell that Pajit you had on your show that works with Odyssey to get a fucking phone up.
He's the CEO of Odyssey, actually.
Very nice guy, Julian Legend.
Actually, shout out to him.
Odyssey is king.
Odyssey is going to remain king, but that doesn't mean it can't be a cozy November as well.
We'll probably hear a little bit more about that from social media accounts coming up here pretty soon.
A little tease there, if you're in tune enough.
All right, now let's roll through some more.
Reloaded AK Lightning Round, go.
Oh, hey, let me meet the stream.
I wanted to ask Adam, if you believed that the Jews were able to construct Christianity and use it over the course of 2,000 years and basically are able to use the pogroms that happened to them and use the Holocaust that happened that happened to them into a large stick to beat everybody over the head with in the modern day.
Then how do you plan to go against it?
Because one, you can't pogrom them.
It makes them stronger.
Two, you can't expel them.
It seems to make them stronger because they've been, what is it, persecuted.
So doing anything against them in any significant manner that's been done over them for the last 2,000 years has done nothing would help them.
So for the most part, it just sounds like our hands are tied.
And you can say that you're speaking the truth.
Like this is the truth of what's going on.
Fine.
But in the end, if you're not able to do much with it, then you've said that they've already won the world.
Then why do we keep going?
Well, number one, I don't believe that they created it.
They did create it.
It's a construct from their fictional Torah.
It was Jews that all were the original Christians.
We're all Jews.
And our hands aren't tied.
Does it seem like my hands are tied?
I'm getting information out exposing Jewish supremacy and the Jewish agenda right up there with anybody else in the world right now.
And you have to criticize them the right way, not like an Autistic Sperg.
And the blood libel saying they killed God, which is like an absurd notion anyway, that they're so powerful that they killed God as if God can die.
And if it wasn't his, like it wasn't his plan all along.
Don't call them when you call them synagogue of Satan and you say they're satanic in Revelation 3.9, all that plays into their victim status that you hate them on a religious level.
It's like a straw man red herring that discredits us and makes us lose the moral high ground.
So criticize that for their lies, for their fake books.
And if we were to just imagine if all the Christian Zionists heard a debate like this and they hypothetically changed their mind, the Jews would not have all the support that they have right now because Christians are their greatest supporters.
Well, again, I had to push back on that a little bit because it's not just the fact that, you know, they call it the grug tier of anti-Semitism like they killed Christ.
Well, it's been documented in that even in the 1400s and throughout the Middle Ages that Jewish people were committing Kabbalah blood rituals on Christian children.
And that was part of the major reasons why they kept getting kicked out of countries because they kept doing these things over the course of hundreds of years.
So it wasn't just like a grug anti-Semitism thing.
They were actually actively hurting the children of the Christian population.
They were doing some bad things.
And even, wait, even this has even been confirmed by a Jewish scholar named Ariel Tof.
And he was widely panned by the Jewish community at the time because he basically said something that may put Jews in a bad light.
So, but the thing is that in your logic, that technically helps the Jews because it made them get pogrommed and is allowing their narrative to make them stronger in the future for their end goals.
So it's just kind of like a weird Logical like rabbit hole that I'm not sure how you can square the circle here.
Well, I think I'm squaring it just fine.
And the whole idea was for them to be hated and persecuted by the Christians.
That's the narrative.
And believing that they killed God and they're guilty of deicide and forced conversions and they're the synagogue of Satan.
All of that ultimately just plays into their hands.
Especially with just like the average normie out there.
And even Christians, they're saying, oh, we got a long history.
We need to repent.
We've been so mean to those Jews.
And they're like, yes, you have.
They've turned us into the villains.
Oh, okay.
Then how do you beat them if they're willing to throw tens of thousands of their own onto the throw them onto the sword just in order to win?
Because that's a very, very cohesive group of people you're fighting against.
They are going to unite.
You could start by not worshiping their God and validating their delusions and enabling their agenda.
Embrace atheism.
Embrace all GDT.
Embrace transsexualism.
Am I supporting?
That's such a straw man.
I'm not endorsing any of those things.
Adam, I can count on what you're saying.
You act like you have to believe in Jewish blood magic.
Otherwise, you're pro-trans or something.
Well, let's see the results of atheism in Europe.
Let's see the results of atheism in America.
It's trans kids.
Your ideology gets us trans kids.
All right.
Now, my ideology gets us trans kids.
That's now he said he was an atheist earlier.
My lack of belief in Jewish lies means that I'm pro-trans.
It's stupid.
Your ideology probably radicalized the left even more.
Oh, so is that another conspiracy that you're just not going to bother to prove?
Like this.
Do you mean that was real?
They actually found the tunnels underneath that elementary school.
Or excuse me, that day.
I'm talking about one specific thing.
The finders.
Not the finders, but you haven't kept up with that at all.
Like I said, I'm not talking about one specific thing.
And that doesn't lend validity to a lot of what was going on at the time, especially on the heels of the drug up.
All right, reloaded.
Thank you for calling in.
I got to keep going.
I got to keep going.
All right, real quick.
Were you saying something reloaded when I cut you?
Sorry.
Just go ahead real quick.
I had just one more question.
Well, very quick.
Then in that respect, then how could you prove that the Jews wouldn't have predicted something like you would come along to be able to put down their narrative and have a counter plan in that regard because they were able to plan things 2,000 years advanced?
Thank you, Ralph.
They're probably laughing.
It's amazing that more people haven't caught onto this, but there's Jews laughing somewhere that there's Christians are so brainwashed by this Judeo-hoax that they're calling me a Jew for telling them that they're duped by Jews.
But maybe that's all part of the conspiracy, Adam.
Have you considered that?
Maybe you're part of it.
Maybe I'm part of it.
Maybe we're all part of it.
All right.
Now, let's keep going.
It doesn't stop.
Esoteric Alex Jones here.
Felix.
Felix, go ahead.
Can you hear me, Felix?
You got to hurry because I got to go.
Actually, I have a project.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on a second.
I just want to say this.
I got a project that I'm going to do tomorrow.
I can't talk about it yet, but it will be seen at some point.
All right.
Now, go ahead, Felix.
Yeah, so I'm a big fan, man.
I'm a PRS, TRS paycheck as well.
And I'm also a Adam listener as well.
Oh, wow.
So I really, I really appreciate this debate.
I think the content's been pretty good, Ralph.
I think you can pat yourself on the back.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Thank you for the support as well.
Yeah, man.
No doubt, no doubt.
So, Miles, I've actually got a question for you.
So, one of the big things that Adam really addresses in his videos and his content is around the way that the Jews, as part of their Judaism-type prophecies, is really bring forth these types of ideas around end-time philosophy, the idea of summoning the Messiah, the Messiah, the fuck, what's that called again?
The Mashiach, the Mashiach.
So, what do you think about that, Miles?
So, do you actually see that happening through your own lens as well?
That there's like a lot of Old Testament occasions.
Are you asking me what I think about Old Testament prophecies?
Well, probably more the correlation of the current times versus some of Those like book of Revelation type prophecies that the Jews are really starting to reenact in their views of looking to summon the Mashiach.
You have to be very careful when looking at prophecy and trying to apply it to the current day.
People do that so often and they really, really, really get it wrong.
The sheer number of end times cults that have ended in just people selling everything they own, waiting for the rapture, and then it's just not happening.
That was a huge thing in the 18 and 1900s.
You do have to be very careful.
I think the Old Testament prophecies were fulfilled in Jesus, and that's the end of the fulfillment of the prophecy.
So now we're waiting the second coming of Christ.
But I think all the Old Testament, Isaiah, Daniel, et cetera, all of that points right to Christ.
And I think that's just like the Jews, you're waiting for Moshiach ben Joseph to come and rule the whole world.
Well, he already came, conquered death, and yeah, now we're waiting a second coming.
So you have that in common with the Jews, that you're waiting for a Jewish king to come and rule the earth.
Well, the difference is that those Jews aren't God.
So I worship God.
They worship.
So as long as God's a Jew, it's okay to worship him.
The God of the universe, yes, I worship the God of the universe.
That is correct.
God of the universe is a Jew.
He incarnated as a Jew.
Sure.
Okay.
And you talked about how people need to be careful to not misinterpret these end times prophecies.
We got millions of rapture fanatics.
We've got Armageddon, end times lunatics.
We've got QAnon cult members.
We got ridiculous faith healers.
All of these things.
Why need to be careful?
How about a divine word of God has a little more clarity and not so easily can be misinterpreted?
It's pretty what I'm the point I'm making is that it is flawed.
It's made man-made and it's flawed and it's fiction.
So Adam, you seem like a pretty in-shape kind of guy.
If you wanted to lose weight, if you were overweight and you wanted to lose weight, how would you do that?
I don't even want to go down.
Diet and exercise.
The same thing everyone says.
So all of these fats, oh, that's a really great way to get buff, Rich Piana.
But everyone knows that the way to lose weight is diet and exercise.
How many people actually do that?
Very, very few.
So everyone knows what it should be, but they ignore it.
All right.
Not everybody knows the truth.
Everybody thinks they're right.
Every Christian thinks they're the real Christian, and the vast majority of other Christians have it wrong.
That's a flawed system.
A real God of the universe wouldn't allow that to happen.
He would come down.
He would straighten everything out.
There would be no disagreements.
There would be no differences in interpretation.
These are signs that it's a man-made in your opinion.
All right.
So that's just your opinion.
All right, let's do the colour.
We're going to have to just address the callers.
And Miles, please start up an argument after every single color.
No offense.
Because I'm never going to build it.
I have a final question, and that's towards you, Miles, brother.
It's how do we get rid of the pacificity within Christianity?
Because obviously one of the key key aspects that the Jews have used to control us is basically lulling us into this pacifistic type of thinking.
All we have to do is sit back and wait for the second coming, basically.
So how can we actually, I guess, re-weaponize Christianity to actually start thinking and addressing civilization in the correct way to attack some of these issues that are really hurting us from a civilizational perspective?
We're not seeing anything special in European American Christian civilization that we haven't seen before in ancient cultures.
What we are seeing right now is a behavioral sink.
These civilizations now being Christian, at least nominally, is entirely incidental.
We can talk about the cope about, well, everyone's just waiting for the second coming.
No, the first century Christians, early Christians, back when they were under persecution, they were anxiously awaiting the second coming.
We are sitting on our smartphones bickering on the internet and making Ralph tons and tons of money, being entertaining.
So in order to get past this, we're going to need to see a major, major shift in civilization.
We're in a behavioral sink, and what needs to be removed is the unlimited food and unlimited goodies.
In other words, civilization needs to collapse.
We're too late past the point where we've just given up all of our civilizational order to be able to walk it back now.
We're hosed.
We need to wait for a collapse and try to rebuild afterwards.
All right, Felix, thank you, man.
Thanks, man.
Have a good one.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Now, we're going to really speedrun.
I got to finish this up within the next 15 minutes because I got to drive fucking two hours in the morning at like 6 a.m.
So I'm not going to get much sleep.
So we got to finish this.
Walrus, go ahead, lightning round.
Serious lightning round.
Go.
Fantastic.
Thank you, Ralph, for having me on.
I hope you've been doing well tonight.
I've been watching.
You're doing very well.
When it comes to this whole bit here, I just wanted to ask Adam, how long have you been a faggot and how many dicks sucked?
All right, Walrus.
That's that representation of a very much for your time, Ralph.
You have a good night.
And insecure that they have to lash out like that.
No one's threatened by you, Adam.
That was uncalled.
No, I didn't say he's threatened.
He's threatened by me.
And what I'm saying is what I know.
No, Adam.
No one's threatened by you.
You're a punching bag.
You seem pretty triggered to me.
A punching bag.
Yeah.
Yes, you're a punching bag.
You're lucky I'm even here taking this debate.
You're some anonymous nobody.
It's no other Christian could step up to the plate.
I'm so blessed to deal with your gish galloping.
So blessed your Jewish pill pull.
All right.
Can you guys hear me?
Yes.
Go ahead.
I mean, yeah, I'm 100%.
And Miles, you know, wait, wait.
Kill yourself.
Oh, stay mad.
Stay mad, fag.
All right.
I don't even know.
It's broken down.
All right.
We went back to 28.
Cowboy, go ahead.
Are you there?
He's rolled off into the sunset.
Chris Stubbs, go ahead.
Chris Stubbs.
Can you hear me?
Okay, I don't guess you can hear me.
Let's see.
Mongoose Kikimora.
Yes.
Right on.
What's up?
Go ahead, Lightning Round.
We got to keep it quick.
I got to get off the show in 15 minutes.
All right.
Do you have a call?
Speak.
All right.
Adam, I got a question for you.
How many Jews died in the fucking Holocaust?
I don't know.
Not six million.
That's a Gematria made-up number.
So they can.
It's a Gematra made-up number.
So how many in the world?
Right now, bitch.
We're not getting into this.
All due respect.
We're not getting into this.
I don't care what you want, bitch.
It's my show.
Get off.
Sorry.
No, I don't care who he is, Rand.
He's not going to tell me what I'm going to do with my show.
Oopie-doopy, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Bye.
Done.
I run this show.
Nobody else.
Nagab, Eat, go ahead.
Okay.
Oh, hey, guys.
Hey, really, needed to make a guy's bladder hold in there.
Adam knows what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I got to go again already.
Yeah, yeah, feel me.
So is there anything that you feel that's more Jewish than materialistic views that deny any spirituality whatsoever?
Yeah, Christianity is more Jewish than that.
Easy.
Okay.
And my other thing is, is, you know, this isn't Twitter.
You can't just block and hide comments from Miles just to get off.
And that's it.
I really don't care.
You're a fucking faggot.
All right.
Oh, I wonder why I would want to block anything but that.
What in the world?
Well, you can't argue.
So they get so triggered, man.
I'm mad, dude.
It's fucking.
I don't know, man.
People, it's heated, dude.
I don't.
Yeah, people are gettingwashed to believing these Jewish lies that they'll believe you're the devil incarnate if you tell them that they've been duped.
Adam, don't put yourself on the same level.
People are so mad.
Holy shit.
All right.
Now, let me go ahead, Iron.
Iron, please.
Hello.
Iron butterfly.
Go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Hey, I just wanted to ask Miles.
He was saying earlier he believed the story about the staff turning into a snake and stuff.
So I wanted to ask if he believes in all other magic that's happened throughout the world that people have recorded and talked about, or if it's just like Jewish magic in particular that has a privileged position for him.
It has to be accounted for on a case-by-case basis.
When it comes to, say, miracles like recorded in Tacitus or Herodotus or other ancient historians, I think we do have very good grounds to believe that.
Again, I would question where it's coming from.
I would say that a lot of that stuff is sorcery.
But when, say, Tiberius, I believe it was, healed a lame man and a blind man, I have no problem believing in that miracle whatsoever.
Yeah, but like, how about like all the magic milk in India or like fairies and stuff and like Norse mythology, like dwarves, else, like all that kind of stuff?
Again, it has to be examined on a case-by-case basis.
Again, I don't categorically rule it out at all.
So you're saying like all those things be honest?
No, I don't realize it's in the magic Bible.
No.
See, Adam, this is your problem.
If you could actually argue, well, you would need to straw man me like a dumbass.
Anyway, it depends.
Again, it depends on the source and it depends on the attestation.
As far as like fairies and dwarves and elves and stuff like that, for me, I would call them demons.
Those are falling spirits.
The Bible talks about witches.
You believe witches can do spells and have supernatural powers?
Do I believe certain people are possessed by demons and the devil and they can perform supernatural acts?
Yes, absolutely.
Absolute fucking lily.
Okay.
All right.
Now, don't hope you would be one of those people that would burn the witches.
If witches actually had that power, yes.
Absolutely.
No.
By the way, fun historical fact: most witches were men and they were burned for creating quote-unquote love potions, aka date rape drugs.
All right, now, Iron, thank you.
I don't think he ever talked, dude.
I never heard that.
I never heard that before either, actually.
Makes sense.
I mean, yeah, I'm not even going to die.
I mean, that does make sense.
Chris said Roofies.
Yeah, early roofie.
Now comment.
I'm interested in it now.
If you have a link to that, pick up artistry.
Send me that, actually.
That's got a ton of the devils, that one crazy drug.
Well, back in the Middle Ages, there was a lot of overlap between sorcery, supernaturalism, chemistry, pharmakeia, mind-altering drugs, alchemy, stuff like that.
It was all kind of the same discipline.
That's not supernatural powers, though.
In those instances, no, that was just pharmacology.
All right, now, Chris Tubbs, can you hear me now, buddy?
Oh, man, I like Chris Tubbs a lot, but man, I literally have to honestly, you know, people would have been down to go a little bit longer.
We went a long time already.
The Lord took it.
But I think it's pretty much mostly runs course anyway, too.
But I'm not trying to cut it short.
It's just I have to get a little bit of sleep before I take that drive.
Go ahead, cowboy.
Can you hear me now?
Cowboy.
He's quiet, though.
All right.
He wouldn't shut the fuck up on my show.
No, he's not.
Look, man, you better fix it quick.
You better fix it quick.
Let's see.
Impriol, go ahead.
Impriol.
Okay.
Nemetazim.
Okay.
Senior, steal your girl.
Steal your girl.
Senor, steal your girl.
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
A lot of that.
Ah, set it ahead with that.
Okay, go ahead.
Lightning round, go quick.
Yeah, first of all, God bless all you gentlemen.
Adam, you got fucking blown the hell out by Miles.
I did see that coming.
I wonder if you have any bias.
I wouldn't expect a dogmatic Christian to think that one.
So, yeah, you're basically a Reddit tier atheist.
Reddit tier, Reddit.
You're a Bible.
You're a Bible thumper.
You're Bible tier, bro.
Hell yeah.
You're not even serious.
You're Bible tier.
You're an apologist.
You're a Jewish pillple agent.
All right.
What else you got?
Saying like the Jews of this crazy conspiracy all throughout time.
Like, it's the craziest thing ever.
You sound like a QAnon guy, man.
You sound insane.
Dude, you sound like QAnon.
Trust the plan.
Jesus is going to come down from the clouds.
You're saying like, oh, persecutor damn.
Oh, that was retarded.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Ooh, cope.
You sound crazy.
But I will say, Ralph, great debate.
It is a good topic.
It's just unfortunate you have this crazy guy on it spitting all this bullshit.
There wouldn't be a debate if somebody was on here that agreed with him.
Miles did a great job.
Hey, do you believe in blood magic, buddy?
You believe that you're washed in the sins saying it's like Jewish blood magic.
It is.
Where else did it come from?
Jesus created a new covenant.
That's what you don't get.
He created.
Oh, I got a new covenant.
And I'm a chosen special boy.
Oh, I don't have any arguments.
I have to talk in a silly voice.
To believe in the second covenant means you believe in the first covenant, which means you're validating Jewish delusions.
All the trannies and the gays, dude.
Come on, man.
There you go.
I've done so many videos calling out the crazy leftists.
You don't have to believe in Jewish nonsense to call out crazy leftists.
All right.
Thank you.
I don't know, man.
Yeah, thanks.
Have a good one, boys.
Bye.
All right.
Now, Chris Dubbs, you there?
Chris Dubbs.
All right, it's not going to work.
Look, also, sometimes it might be Discord on your phone.
I don't know what to tell you.
But, Cowboy, you got one more chance, too.
Oh, yours work.
Okay.
All right.
Chris, can I say that Discord can fucking suck my life?
I know, man.
It's trash.
Go ahead, though, real quick, though.
Get it in very quick, man.
I was just going to say it's a good debate.
Good show.
It's a good match.
Thank you.
Even though I think that Bible fights are counterproductive.
I think both participants do pretty good work.
I'm a TRS page chad, so I'm kind of partial to Miles, and I enjoy the Godcast.
But I'm not going to shit on Adam.
Just wanted to say, as a lapsed Catholic, I don't really feel like I need to engage in apologia for not liking Jews.
I feel like I have to bend over backwards to atone for any kind of a fictional historical crime against Jews or repent for any kind of shitty shit they brought on themselves for their repeated historically demonstrated shitty behavior.
So that's all I wanted to say.
Jews suck.
Thank you.
I appreciate it, man.
Have a good one.
Chris Stubbs, one last chance.
No, it's not going to work.
All right.
And then I'll try these just because I gave them a last chance.
So Nimaltism.
Nimaltism.
Hello, hello.
No, you're muted.
Impriol.
Hello.
You got it.
Go ahead.
You got me?
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, I just wanted to say something about Yahweh kind of as this Lord of hosts.
And the word for host can mean angels.
I'm sure the Christian would think it means angels, but it also means armies.
And Christianity has been hosted by Yahweh.
I mean, there's a lot of other kind of controlled opposition things in the Bible.
One of them would be the Nehushtin, right?
So Jesus identified as the snake on a snake.
You guys can hear me, right?
Yes.
Keep going, man.
Very quick.
Go get it out because I got to go.
No offense.
But I really got to go.
It's 240.
Yeah.
There is a lot of language in the Bible that shows that they have controlled opposition.
I mean, Genesis 3, the woman steps on the snake's head.
The snake bites the heel.
The next mention of heel is Jacob, is Jacob grabbing the heel of Esau.
So that is the snake.
So the Christian who tried to fight the snake actually ended up worshiping the snake.
No, that is parallelomania.
You would have to posit that something like Donald Trump and Oprah Winfrey are the same person in order to come to any sort of conclusion like that.
That is completely spurious.
No, the Nehushtin is where the snake was biting everyone, and Moses held up the bronze staff with the snake on it, and Jesus identified as a snake.
And so you guys are worshiping the snake.
Can you cite chapter and verse?
You're fighting the snake, but you're actually worshiping the snake.
Can you cite chapter and verse, please?
Also, symbols can't have more than one meaning in different contexts.
That's John chapter 3.
John chapter 3, when Jesus identifies as the Nehustian from the Old Testament.
Okay, so symbols can't have more than one.
Why is the serpent's innocent as doves?
Wise is the devil.
Is that really what you're saying?
No, the serpent compared to the serpent would be controlled opposition.
Also, yeah, also for the first 300 years of Christianity, every single pastor, theologian, and writer identified or did not counter signal pacifism.
They followed the didica, not the politics creed or nineteen Creed, and pacifism was the staple before Constantine.
And you can find some Christians that were in the military, but every single theologian said no.
Even Alan Creeder, the historian, said that every single theologian, like Tim Lactantius, Titullian, Irenaeus, all of them, Origin, they were all pacifists.
So we're returning to the root of Christianity is what we're doing.
So now we're kind of welcoming the foreigner, loving the enemy, receiving the stranger, and that's where Christianity has to come, and that's what's influencing the culture right now.
And we're actually returning to a root version of early Christianity, not Christendom, that was taken over by Constantine.
And the sword became something that Jesus said not to pick up, right?
After Peter, Tritolian even said when Jesus told you to put away the sword, that meant put away the sword for every single soldier as well.
That was Napoleon.
And now we're coming back around to an original root idea of loving your enemies, welcoming the foreigners, receiving the strangers, and that's why we're fucked up.
Taking that as global homo, sure.
That is the crux of the Old Testament as well.
You can find a sloth of verses where they say that we were the strangers in Egypt, and now we've got to welcome the strangers here.
And it follows into the New Testament.
The Jews couldn't figure out how to beat Aryans with force, so they figured out how to do it subversively through non-passive or through passivism and through nonviolent resistance.
And by creating the Roman context, and does not mean that it's not the same thing.
And they took over the philosophy department.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You moron.
You just don't.
No, for the first 300 years, every single theologian, writer, pastor, they were all under the DK.
They were all pacifists.
Every fucking one of them.
Quote.
Thank you, April.
Name Walt.
Walm Kreeter said that.
Thank you.
Gambriel, thank you for calling in, man.
I got to go.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate you calling in.
I appreciate you calling in.
I can't let this go all night, but I appreciate you calling in, man.
Yeah, no problem.
Thank you.
All right.
No.
Only because it's like 2:30.
I have to call it.
Actually, that was a really good caller.
I needed to do that too.
I'm usually more abrupt than that.
I'm not just pulling somebody off.
Anyway, Miles, tell them where they can find you, man.
Sure.
I can be found at the rightstuff.biz.
I'm available every Sunday.
If you want to be a TRS page, head, that's available at the rightstuff.biz slash paywall.
You can go ahead and comment on everything over there.
Get a lot of paywall-only content.
We do Christian theology dedicated to evangelizing the alt-right.
I also have an audio book, Hitler, by Wyndham Lewis, coming out from Antelope Hill Publishing on Monday.
You can find that at antelopehillpublishing.com.
Oh, nice.
Adam Green.
Appreciate you for setting this up.
Thank you, Gator.
Thank you, Miles.
Thank you to the colleague of the Killstream crew.
No more news.org.
And find me on Twitter, Telegram, Gab, Odyssey, and BitShoot.
Killstream Legend, I think it's fair to say at this point, Adam Green.
Oh, thank you, Amale.
Thank you so much for coming on the show, man.
I really appreciate it.
And Miles Poland, thank you very much for coming on the show.
Debut appearances stay in the long haul for both you gentlemen.