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Sept. 13, 2021 - Know More News - Adam Green
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9/11: 20 Years of Lies, Disinformation, & Gatekeepers | Know More News LIVE
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Welcome to No More News Live.
Thank you all so much for joining me today, September 11th, 2021.
Been 20 years of 9-11 lies, gatekeepers, disinformation, and 20 years joining me is one of the most dedicated and knowledgeable 9-11 truth researchers that I have gotten to know over the last six years or so online,
much of it early on dedicated to investigating 9-11 truth.
Joining me, the documentary filmmaker behind Truther TV is Thermal Detonator.
Thank you for being here, Nelson.
Hey, thanks for having me on.
This is glad to be here.
And I think this is like my third appearance.
Yeah, I meant to mention that.
You've been on a few times before.
I've had you on to discuss some of your new documentaries.
And we've always talked over the years.
How long have we known here?
We've known each other for probably five years.
Yeah.
What did you say about that?
Close to six.
It was before Trump got in the office.
Yeah.
We already knew each other back then.
Yeah, we share a lot of views.
We're both anti-Alex Jones.
We're going to get a little bit into his 20 years as the top 9-11 gatekeeper.
Why don't you start real quick?
I saw that you just posted a new documentary.
Your continued research into deep levels of 9-11, all these documentaries you got here.
You got some phenomenal ones.
Core of Corruption, 9-11, Part 1 and Part 2.
That one's not mine.
That one just hosted.
That's the other one above.
Those are all my.
Oh, yeah.
Inconvenient 9-11 Truth Part 1.
Yeah, that's one of my first films.
And part two, 9-11.
And part two, yeah.
Right.
And you just put out, you've done one on the airports.
You've gotten into Bojinka plots, World Trade Center bombings at the Washington Bridge.
And your latest one, you just put up today, Inside Job at the Boston Logan Airport.
Aborted hijackings and expositions.
Have to see that one.
Yes.
It is just kind of a continuation of some, well, it's kind of an extraction from the 9-11 Bojinka Maximum, which is a six-hour film I put out last year, just about all the extra hijacking attempts that weren't accounted for.
A lot more that were going on on two days later on September 13th when airports reopened.
But, you know, it's basically covering what the 9-11 truth movement never covered or actually never knew about or basically the public all forgot was there was many, many arrests afterwards besides the Israelis.
And, you know, part of what I tried to explain here is, yes, I'm showing you, yes, there is this, you know, the operation was much more huge.
You know, it's basically the 9-11 plot was the Bojinka plot, you know, attempted to be fulfilled.
And then with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, there are Mossad links that I covered that in the previous film.
But with the Bojinka Maximum, you know, I'm basically showing how they covered up everything, how even the media was, you know, battling basically with higher ups, basically, with even trying to get these stories across of more hijacking attempts happening at John F. Kennedy Airport and LaGuardia airports, you know.
And part of all that is that, you know, I showed, look, you know, here's this huge cover-up.
It's more than just explosives at the Twin Towers.
You know, you're getting a blatant cover up right in front of you of all these arrests.
And then they all go away.
And then all you have is 19 alleged alleged hijackers and one person in jail, Zacharias Masawi.
So part of all that is that I show, like, look, here's all these arrests of these people.
Look at the nationalities he's from.
And I even include the Israelis in there.
I showed that, look, this is why there is this huge, you know, this is why there's so many Israelis that were arrested everywhere else.
They were all aiding, surveying, doing whatever, you know, obviously very nefarious activities with these so-called al-Qaeda cells, if you want to call it al-Qaeda cells, because we still don't even understand the extent of this, you know, that part of the Middle Eastern conspiracy.
We don't know, you know, if there are secular groups, what kind of Arab terrorists, you know, that it just may not be just strictly Islamic fundamentalism.
You know, I see what you're saying.
Pretty amazing here.
You have Donald Trump's interview two days after 9-11 with 5 million views, 8 million total views.
And you've had other YouTube channels as well, because I noticed there's not that many videos on here.
And I know you've got YouTube channels where it's like all types of archived footage as well, right?
What's that YouTube channel?
Well, that one's just all archives.
I had to move stuff over.
Obviously, I know they took your channel off.
They took a lot of people's channels off.
So they're watching my stuff too because it's conspiracy theory content, but it's also because of the problem that I use some copyrighted material.
But they're allowing me to keep certain things on there.
Like you see that Donald Trump news report.
And then, you know, I've got the 2020 news preview on the dancing Israelis on ABC.
Everybody's shared that now.
I mean, other documentary filmmakers have sampled it without giving me any credit.
I paid for the thing, actually.
But, you know, I've been having a little bit of restrictions.
You know, they're watching my content.
So I have to be careful what I put out there.
And so, you know, I'm just very accurate with 9-11.
I just, I don't, I don't ascribe to fallacies.
And, you know, 9-11 has been plagued with disinformation since day one.
And we see all the disinformation today with QAnon and stuff.
It's the same things have always been going on.
It's an outgrowth from our movement, unfortunately, just like chemtrails, just like even Flat Earth.
You can say, well, no, no, there was always conspiracy theories before.
No, not like it is today.
Conspiracy theorists are, it completely grew, you know, out of 9-11.
It spawned into its own thing and then, you know, crossed with the internet and just anything can just, anything can just be spread without checking anything, you know, without validating anything.
People believe in the most nonsense.
This is why, you know, I battle with people all the time over the Pentagon attack.
And, you know, they still think that no plane hit it.
And I got into even recent drama with some of the heads at AE911 Truth over this because of David Chandler, you know, their big Building 7 whistleblower, which I, you know, I have a completely different opinion as far as Building 7.
And, you know, I don't even believe in nanothermite was used.
I still believe explosives were used in the Twin Towers, you know.
But, you know, I have even a different opinion when it comes to David Chandler.
But, you know, I still communicate with him.
You know, I wouldn't, you know, blackball him, you know, with his Flight 77 research.
And there he is.
You know, he's being blackballed from AE911 Truth, this, you know, organization he helped, you know, create.
And it's not just him.
It's Ken Jenkins as well.
It's that's getting blackballed.
You know, Ken Jenkins made an excellent film.
What is it?
7 on 77 or something like that.
No, that's 6 on 77 is me, but the Pentagon plane puzzle.
The Pentagon Plane Puzzle by Ken Jenkins.
Yeah, that really woke me.
Both of them.
Yeah, people need to see that to under it.
And then you'll think, hmm, have these loose change, Alex Jones guys been lying to me all along to undermine the true aspects that we have.
We're going to get into Architects and Engineer and Richard Gage.
I want to ask you about the Spike Lee documentary, some of the new stuff that happened recently.
But I wanted to start by playing this one for you.
This is today, George W. Bush.
I don't know if you've seen this yet, but this is pretty predictable and outrageous.
Check this out.
This is him speaking in Pennsylvania, Shanksville.
The security measures incorporated into our lives are both sources of complications.
I can't hear you.
Can you not hear it all or is it just quiet?
It's just quiet.
It's kind of anything.
Here, Try to be quiet.
I'll turn it up a little bit.
Incorporated into our lives are both sources of comfort and reminders of our vulnerability.
And we have seen growing evidence that the dangers to our country can come not only across borders, but from violence that gathers within.
He says the violence doesn't just come across our borders, but the violence within.
Rebranding the Arab-Islamic terrorist threat for Americans.
Of course, this criminal.
Let me finish it up.
Let me finish the clip.
Hold on.
There's a little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home.
And in their disdain for pluralism and their disregard for human life and their determination to defile national symbols.
They are children of the same foul spirit.
And it is our continuing duty to confront them.
They have the same foul spirit.
Basically, he's alluding to January 6 people, the rioters there.
Saying that they're terrorists.
Such a perfect new narrative.
And it's so obvious how they're trying to link the two, that the new terrorists are Americans.
Yeah, and it's basically affecting coming back at us as far as the truth movement.
I mean, if he wants to blame, you know, this right-wing aspect or Alex Jones, go for it.
But you better go blame Michael Moore, too, because he put out Fahrenheit 9-11 and that created a lot of mistrust and generated a lot of Bush conspiracy theories, putting him, placing him in the middle of the plot.
So, you know, they're not addressing everything.
No.
Look at this.
Somebody painted this and people are calling it out.
You saw that?
Yeah.
Not the most tasteful painting.
It's freaky.
It's kind of just dark.
It's just a dark memory of like, you know, I don't know.
I didn't see who was the source that put it up.
I saw it on Facebook earlier.
There was this also.
Poor Taste Associated Press deletes tweet marking 20-year 9-11 anniversary of a Nickelback album.
Apparently, Nickelback, people have said that I look like the Nickelback guy.
Tomorrow 20th anniversary of 9-11 terrorist attacks.
And what they posted was the 20th anniversary of Nickelback releasing their album.
They released it on 9-11, 2001.
You know who released it album on that day, too?
Slayer.
God Hates Us All.
Wow.
And what a telling title, too.
And that's what it felt like.
Have you been watching some of the 9-11 documentaries that are out for the 20-year anniversary?
I only caught one, and it was basically kind of basically summarizing what we were just talking about right now.
Like, you know, how did, and it was basically annailing, you know, that 9-11 is what led up to January 6th, that, you know, that basically, but it was doing it right.
It was from PBS, what's those names of those series?
PBS, I forget.
They're always frontline, dateline, frontline.
Frontline, frontline.
You got it.
Frontline.
And it was right.
It did a good job, you know, summarizing Bush being at fault, Obama being at fault.
And they're just saying, look, don't even blame Trump for, you know, from him being in office.
It's like, you know, these two, those two presidencies fucked it up.
You know, of course you were going to get Trump.
You know, people were going to cling onto him for saying all the wrongdoings of those two administrations.
So it didn't even go too much into addressing that, just kind of going into Trump Islamophobia and stuff like that.
But that's the only one I watched.
That's the only thing I've seen so far.
I have a lot to catch up, by the way.
This is the painting that was in Jeffrey Epstein's, one of his mansions.
George Bush with the paper airplane.
What do you think this represents?
Jeffrey Epstein having this.
And then also having the blue dress Monica Lewinsky Clinton photo.
That Clinton is a pervert.
And then Bush wasn't doing shit, you know, as far as before, you know, his goofball, you know, before the tax even happened.
So it's just kind of like, you know, irresponsibility.
I watched the five-part series on Netflix about 9-11, 20 years later, and there was some footage in there of these other people seeing the second plane hit.
And it's just amazing.
The 9-11 truth has been...
I can't believe people pushing this stuff.
It's like, why speculate on crazy things?
And there's so many new videos I've seen of the planes to claim there's no planes or Judy Wood saying that they were destroyed by space beams, space lasers.
Some other disinfo I saw that's been going around a bit, and I fell for this pretty recently, actually.
The video of Bush in the school, the children reading the book about the gold.
Yeah, Kite must hit Kite Kite Steel Plane hit or something like that.
Yes, Kite Steel Plane Hit.
There's a video where they're actually saying different words, and I saw the video disproving it.
So many people out there are willing to get into that 10 years ago, too, dude.
Yeah, I mean, it seems convincing at first, but it's actually not true.
It's just so much disinformation gets shared around.
And then the same thing with QAnon as well.
It really undermines the true provable aspects that we have.
What about the 7 documentary?
The Dylan Avery, the guy that made Loose Change.
He's got a new one with the Building 7 study from Alaska.
Have you seen that one?
No, I haven't.
And, you know, I'm going to say, I'm going to say blasphemy here.
I don't agree with it.
It's like from me studying 1993, as much as I have in the OKC bombing, let me just put it bluntly.
Did anybody bother to think who owned the World Trade Center in 1993?
No.
Nobody cared to put that into the conspiracy theory because that's what they were going to do.
They were going to bring the buildings down.
That was the plot.
Who owned it?
Exactly.
I forget who owned it, but it still basically goes through the Port Authority.
The Port Authority is the one that gives you any clearance as far as to be able to work on the building.
It's not the leaseholder.
You know, Bolin, I remember, did some research that there was some Israeli intelligence connected guys that got a hold of the security contracts in I think the late 80s.
70s.
It was the 70s.
Yeah, that tells you something.
And yeah, I do not doubt that those buildings were targeted for destruction since the 70s.
And I even think as soon as the buildings were done, I can't get into that conversation because, you know, we're talking about pre-A-Qaeda.
So there's a lot of things I'd have to explain.
And I don't have the time to explain it to everyone.
That's why I, you know, I recommend people to read my articles on what I've wrote about Libya and the pretexts going on there so they can be familiar with the Palestinian splinter groups back then.
But yeah, I think it was targeted going as far as back then and definitely already through the 80s.
So you have to question if this building is being targeted by who?
It can't be Al-Qaeda.
Al-Qaeda's busy still being the Mujahideen fighting the Russians.
What do you think of this stuff?
We're getting right into the weird occult esoteric right away, but the idea that the Twin Towers kind of represent the to Boaz and Joaquin and that it's Tisha Ba'av, the holy day where the two temples are destroyed.
Tisha Baab is 9-11.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me finish it.
See, kind of the twin pillar type of thing in Freemasonry.
Yeah.
But I tend to agree with the whole thing of the Mecca design, the Japanese designer that came up with it that comes from, not from like, not from like as far as that sort of Jewish mythology or anything like that, but it comes from Arabic.
I forget, I think it even kind of has to do with the Cube and Mecca kind of like, and, you know, that has to do with the shape and something to do with that.
But I'll tell you what, when you add that, at one time I kind of thought of this idea.
When I used to think in that perspective, I always thought of like the pillars between Samson and Samson bringing them down.
Yeah, I kind of always thought that maybe it was that kind of like that, you know, that deeply ingrained, you know, a Jewish plot.
I tend to agree, I mean, I just think it's an I think it's an Israeli plot, yes, but I don't think it's every Jew in New York and, you know, every Jew you can count involved, you know.
What do you think of it as like a high-level Kabbalah plot?
Have you seen this video?
Have you seen this one I found yet?
I've seen some of the I've seen some of these you show.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe not this one, but go ahead play it.
This is, well, here, let me show this one actually.
Where is it?
I posted this.
Oh, we got Alex Jones flip-flopping as well.
All right, this is what I posted.
Top Hasidic dynasty Israeli rabbi claims to have prior knowledge that the Twin Towers would be destroyed.
We're about to pass 10,000 views.
I posted this last night.
Let's play this video right now and then get and discuss it.
Two buildings.
Wow.
You know, I'll tell you something.
I think I already told you this, by the way.
One week before, how do you call that?
The World War Center World Trade Center.
Those two great edifices of tremendous architecture.
They were destroyed.
I mean, in such a way that nobody still understands what happened.
How come they were brought down in such a massive way?
One week before, one of the great rabbis in Israel, a Hasidish Rabbi, an admir, he came to an admir.
That's a Hasidic spiritual leader.
It's like a dynasty, Hasidic top Kabbalah dynasty, essentially.
This is what he said.
Visit the square Rebe in Mans in Square, New Square.
And he came with some people, some of his disciples in the Kahar.
They prayed Mincha with Minyan in front of everybody passing in Manhattan where?
Right there, near the world center.
After he finished the davening, the prayer, he said, say bye-bye to those buildings because you are not going to see them no more.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
There will be two big buildings in the land of Edom, which today we relate the word Edom to America.
And those are the biggest, they have the tallest buildings in the world.
And they will be totally, they will be brought down completely.
And that will be the sign of the beginning of tremendous wars that will end only in the coming of the Mashiach.
He said, say bye-bye to those buildings because you are not going to see them no more.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
Say bye-bye to those buildings because you are not going to see them no more.
I wrote a book in 1995, and I said that if the West doesn't wake up to the suicidal nature of militant Islam, the next thing you'll see is the militant Islam is bringing down the World Trade Center.
"The last thing that I saw in the last year was that I would give him a few days.
"What did he say?
"And what he said was that I would still be able to come here.
"And what he said was that he was able to come here.
"And what he said was that he was able to come here.
"The thing is that he was able to come here today, "because I have already been here for a few days and I will still be here.
"But there are a few days, so I have to come here." "The last thing that I saw was that I was able to come here." What are your thoughts?
Well, it wouldn't be hard for them to be to find out if that rabbi, spiritual rabbi, or if you even particularly put Benjamin Netanyahu having some sort of foreknowledge, because he's saying that book in 1995, but look, he wrote books in the 1980s already talking about this.
So why did he come up with those books back then?
So the thing is, yeah, they would definitely be able to have foreknowledge because they know somebody is always building a plot to bring down those buildings.
They know it's going to happen anyway.
And it's just, you know, it's just a lucky prediction.
The guy said it when it was going to happen right before it was going to happen, but people were predicting about it coming down for a long time.
This rabbi, like, just say, you know, to give him the benefit of the doubt, say that he's making this story up just so they sound special.
What kind of psychopath would make up a story like that?
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's just a sick thing.
That's the insider knowledge.
I would speculate that that is insider knowledge, you know.
But I would have to say, what's the best way for Israel to conduct terrorism?
It's to run terrorist cell groups themselves.
Yeah, get up or just to monitor it and allow it to happen.
That too.
But they can get other terrorists to do it.
They don't even have to monitor.
They have the ability to infiltrate, act like a Muslim, run a fundamentalist cell if they could.
But there's other ways too.
There's always multiple interests.
I mean, it's not hard.
It wasn't hard for them to find other Arabs that hate Ibsad.
You know what I'm saying?
So just to see this prophecy about Adom, because he said that America is Edom.
Listen to what it says here.
Will I not destroy the wise men of Edom, the understanding of the mountains, and everyone in Esau's mountains will be cut down in the slaughter because of your violence against your brother Jacob?
Those who make your home in the heights who can bring me down to the ground, make your nest among the stars.
From there, I will bring you down.
I mean, kind of, it makes you think of skyscrapers coming down.
Oh, what a disaster awaits you.
This is the prophecy for Edom.
I know.
Jacob will be fire, Joseph aflame, Esau or Edom will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him.
There will be no survivors from Esau, from America, in their views.
And one more Malachi verse about Edom.
Edom may say, though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins.
But this is what the Lord Almighty says: They may build, but I will demolish.
They will be called the wicked land and people always under the wrath of the Lord.
So, you know, they got demolished.
All right.
Oh, yeah, they did.
They did.
And I, like I'm saying, I do not deny that Benjamin Netanyahu or even Yehud Barak knew what was going on, you know, knew which terrorist mastermind, which terrorist organization was really preparing because I think that they were basically working for them.
But that's going to be a long conversation we get into.
Right.
And the reason is because connections, Mossad connections to some of the alleged hijackers like Ziad Jara, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It goes back with that, but it also, you know, even goes with Ada.
It also goes with Ada, but it's really there in 1993 as well, besides the Mossad links I've already shown on film.
There's more to it.
This is interesting as well.
The Prime Minister of Israel, Sonetan Yahoo's office, tweeted this out in 2017 on the September 11th anniversary.
He says the September 11th bombings, but we all know that the official story is that there was no bombs on 9-11, right?
Yeah.
So what's that about?
Well, it's just like, you know, what's up with the FBI official, you know, originally calling the investigation the pit bomb twin bomb investigation.
They were going on some lead going on that direction.
Right.
I believe that they were looking for, you know, considering explosives.
There are reasons to believe that.
It was only reported by like so many hundreds of eyewitnesses and so many people, like reporters that were watching it that day.
Go ahead.
Sure.
Sure.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
The documentary 7 by Dylan Avery, the guy that made Loose Change.
I haven't watched it either, although I've seen all of the 9-11 Building 7 stuff over the years that I'm sure none of it would be new anyway.
But this guy, Dylan Avery, and Jason Burmes, Alex Jones, these guys are Zionist gatekeepers.
These guys are not going to give you the truth about Zionism.
Dylan Avery Did an interview and said that, quote, people wanted him to put evidence in loose change that there was Zionist involvement, but he said that they were anti-Semites and he didn't want to put that in.
And I guess it's been rumored that he's Jewish ethnicity.
So it's just, I'm not a fan of that guy at all or Burmes.
I see you did a video refuting Burmese.
Last from last year, he did a debate with John McDermott of writer for Vice and Esquire magazine.
And because he put out a very good article, it's just like, is Loose Change to blame for this disinformation age because of the whole QAnon thing and everything that was going on?
And pretty much the debate they got into was really over Flight 93 and Shanksville.
And Brick Thermis did a pretty good job debating it, but Burmes was keeping to his still, to his loose change talking points, showing all that.
So I made this film and it's only on my for my Patreons and I destroy him.
Because I agree with, you know, I agree with Dermot, but I don't just like destroy the physics argument, you know, show you, oh, look, it really did dive.
And really, this is what a plane does when it goes on a nosedive that fast.
Can you blame people for thinking that it was shot down or that there was a bomb in the ground?
I mean, the plane.
Yeah.
The only way I can accept someone like thinking, well, you could have been shot down, that is if they were like a TWA 800 conspiracy theorist, because a lot of people did see missiles come out of the ocean and bring that plane down in 1996.
So I can understand that if you were, you know, happen to be into that, I can see that.
But with Flight 93, what's the whole shape plane?
What's the whole shape?
What's the plane-shaped hole on the ground?
How does that get there?
Why is there debris there?
Why is there burn marks?
Why is there a fireball blown out?
Why is there pieces even scattered out?
That's not what a missile would do.
Even if a missile shot it down, you're still going to see big chunks of the plane.
I saw one of the insiders in Camp David or hanging with Bush or maybe he was with Cheney.
He said he thought that they shot that one down at first as well.
Well, the reason why they thought they shot it down is because after the flight 77 Pentagon, Bush and Cheney gave the okay to shoot down any planes coming into DC.
So they thought, well, they must have just took them down outside the vicinity in Pennsylvania, but they didn't.
Because you can even see the interview of the pilot that went to almost intercept it.
And they weren't armed.
NORAD wasn't armed with anything.
They don't train with fully loaded.
So what she was going to do, and she was contemplating it, she was going to ram.
She was going to try to catch up to it and ram her plane into it to stop it while pushing the ejectile at the same time.
And she was glad she didn't, but I have the interview.
You can see it yourself.
Penny, her last name is Penny.
I forget her name.
I've got her full name.
How about that Leon Panetta testified that Cheney was like the plane's 100 minutes out, five minutes out?
Leon Panetta, what did I say?
Panini?
Manetta.
It's Norman Mineta.
Norman Mineta.
Okay.
Been a while.
Yeah, Norman Mineta, yeah, but they don't even know if that was during Flight 93 or during Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.
There is contradiction with that, even within the 9-11 Commission report.
And when he says that.
So we don't even actually know.
And quite frankly, speaking of Norman Mineta, I show in my film, the Bojinka Maximum, that he was head of the Department of Transportation.
He could have put the no-fly ban to stop all the planes immediately, right?
And he decided to do that after Flight 77.
He didn't get it after the first plane.
He didn't get it after the second plane.
But the third plane, Manetta says, well, shut it all down.
Shut it all down.
But here's the thing.
The FAA also had control to do that.
And the FAA did.
They put the no-fly ban immediately after one minute after Flight 175 hit the South Tower after the second plane hit.
So complete incompetence, complete incompetence there, you know, on the administration itself.
You know, it's just saying, you know, people put all the blame on Cheney being incompetent or the stand down order.
Standing down, yeah.
Yeah, but then if this is a plane's operation and if they're supposed to be in it and the planes are lifting off the airport, you know, you want to have control of the airports, making sure they don't launch their planes.
And Manetta, you know, was late at the game.
So you mentioned architects and engineers.
I just kind of like got bored with them.
It's like this, the physics of the building stuff.
How long can you keep talking about the same thing and then not get into all of the other aspects, the Israeli roles and all the other rabbit holes you can go down regarding 9-11?
It's quite frustrating.
So I haven't seen seven yet.
I still plan on watching it, but Architects and Engineers, Richard Gage, the guy that's run that for a long time, he had a huge show on, what was it, Meet the Press, C-SPAN.
He recently quit.
He quits a week before the 20-year anniversary.
It's almost like he achieved, he wasn't able to really have to win and get the true.
I don't know.
I don't want to say he didn't get to it.
It's a dead end.
It's basically they've come to a dead end.
Yeah, it's like he it's almost like he bowed out right before the big 20-year.
Why do you think that happened and what's going on with all the drama there?
Why is Richard Gage gone?
Well, the main thing that I heard why he quit was over the Spike Lee article because, and I thought that was ironic because, you know, I knew that was going to happen once I heard about Spike Lee coming out with the, you know, a 9-11 Truth Doc, you know, thing on his film and, you know, obviously hinting that he's talking to AE Dynamo1 Truth.
And I'm thinking to myself, wow, how's that going to go when they know like, you know, AE has done stuff with Bolin and other people who've even been kind of close to David Duke?
And Spike Lee put out a whole movie, you know, about David Duke, the Black Klansman movie, right?
So yeah, it's weird that he would promote that.
Well, he's not.
He's taking it all out now.
Spike Lee removes conspiracists from HBO 9-11 series after they claimed he was anti-Semitic.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, that's AE's fault.
You know, you should have told Spike Lee, hey, we just want to let you know we got a lot of people that, you know, some people are, some of them are anti-Semitic, some of them are not.
But Richard Gage, though, I mean, that's not fair to say architects and engineers is anti-Semitic because they never even talk about the Israeli.
No, they don't.
They don't.
But what they're doing is they're looking at all the times, all his guest appearances when he appears with these people.
Well, you know, the shows he's on and all that.
They should know they're being watched.
They should know.
This is the gatekeeping.
They won't even have this guy on.
He possibly lost his position.
What?
Because he went on some podcasts that talk about Zionist power.
Like, that's how much of a lockdown.
He decided to quit.
I think he just got fed up with it.
But there were other things that also happened this past week.
It also has to do with their podcast show from Free Fall with this guy, Andy Steele.
Yeah.
He was attacking you, right?
Yeah, he was attacking me, Ed Brotherton, Adam Fitzgerald, mainly.
And, you know, it basically started because of me because I contacted him.
I'm like, look, give me a fucking break.
20 years and you're putting out a comic book, a fictional comic book?
That's what they put out this year for the 20-year anniversary, a comic book.
So I criticize him like, what are you people doing?
And why are you people blackballing David Chandler?
And it just led to one thing to another.
And I gave the guy a clue that I'm like, yeah, I gave him a clue that I have a troll account and you've been talking to that troll account thinking it's someone you know.
And he got, I guess he freaked out about it.
Then he made a whole podcast thinking that he's exposing me, exposing Adam, exposing Ed, and exposing David Chandler.
And even Ryan Dawson, Ryan Dawson was brought up.
They had Craig McKee and they also had this other guy named Bernie Sores.
He used to be part of We Are Change LA.
And then that's the profile I was pretending to be.
And the guy is a total QAnon, Dork.
He even had the audacity on the interview to say, like, no, I never followed Alex Jones.
I'm like, dude, you're part of We Are Change LA.
I got films of you sampling Terror Storm and other things.
Just complete people trying to, it immediately erased their most recent history.
Like they've changed.
Like, I don't want to be associated with that.
I'm like, no, dude, you put out films and you put up content showing that you were part of all this.
So, all that got around back.
And, you know, I think we should just sit on it.
Sorry.
What's that?
Sorry.
Go ahead.
And then the whole circumstances with the Spikely thing.
And, you know, he just got fed up with it.
And he's, he did, you know, he's not CEO anymore.
He's still on the board.
So they're still figuring out who's going to take over CEO.
But I don't see the organization lasting much longer.
I mean, what all they got?
What, the Seven movie?
I mean, you're bringing up what?
You know, a 45-minute film on seven seconds?
Wow.
They, I know, and it's just like, how, how many times, like, that would be like me doing, you know, videos for years, hundreds of videos just about building seven over and over again.
It's almost like I've moved on to like the bigger picture in a way.
And this is just one element of it.
And they're just still stuck there and won't go anywhere else and just gatekeeping, you know, basically grifting almost, it seems like.
Like, what are they doing?
Well, that's well, that's the whole point about the Pentagon issues.
Like, look, let's clean up our act.
Let's acknowledge that there's still an al-Qaeda.
There was still a terrorist network out there involved, but that this is what the Mossad role entangles with.
But they don't want to do that.
They want to just keep the Israeli role, you know, kind of not necessarily secretive because they acknowledge it's there, but they want to artificially put it all together with the CIA.
And as far as clandestine operations goes and stuff that I've researched, that don't work.
That doesn't happen.
It's like limited hangout type of stuff.
Well, it contradicts everything.
If the Mossad was working with the CIA behind 9-11, then the Israelis just would have been gone.
They wouldn't even have been arrested.
Okay.
If the CIA was so involved, you wouldn't need Amdocs.
You wouldn't need them spying everywhere, giving cover and all that.
Israel spying with Amdocs and what was the other company now?
I'm losing the name of it.
Amdocs and oh, oh, Odigo.
You talking about Odigo?
No, it was Amdocs and something else.
Infosys.
Infosys.
That's another one.
But I guess Amdox is the big.
There's another Israeli company name that was doing the spying and how the hijackers were like one step ahead, like they were getting tipped off to stuff or something.
It's mostly Amdocs and Infosys, right?
You know, and then besides the other apparatus, you know, with the mall kiosks, with the Zoom copters, Dead Sea Salt products, you know, the moving companies, obviously, because they're more than just in New Jersey.
There's other moving companies elsewhere.
The art student rings selling ecstasy, being able to conduct their operations off the book, you know.
So I want to play now a little compilation I just put up.
This is Alex Jones flip-flopping on 9-11.
And it's just amazing because I've noticed that, you know, he was Mr. 9-11.
He got famous off of 9-11.
Yes.
And now, like, in the last, you know, maybe five, six years, he hasn't even like, oh, 9-11 will come and he won't even talk about it.
He never has any experts on.
He never gets into any of the details anymore.
He's walked back all his claims and now he's just a complete disinfo agent.
But let's play this little compilation I made.
Notice in the beginning, he used to, he would acknowledge that there was Zionist fingerprints.
Is it not enough that Israel had fingerprints all over 9-11?
I'm telling you, that's the weirdness.
And then I had this Mossad agent, one of the top guys in the country whose cover is writing for a major magazine.
And he gets there and I go, I know this is really a visit from the Mossading as well.
Sure, but I'm.
Well, how'd you know that?
I'm not really doing an article.
I just want to see what you're planning to do to Israel.
And I'm just like, I'm not against Israel.
I'm not against anybody.
I'm against World War III.
And so you're against man.
And I have this conversation.
I go, look, I know not just Israel was involved in 9-11.
I know a bunch of countries were.
I think it's wrong that false flags are carried out.
And as long as he knew it wasn't personal, he just ran off.
What Israel's doing, we know this kings of blackmail, is that they're actually using their inside knowledge of Abraham for a lot of other issues, just like Monica Lewinsky and Clunge and we know they were blackmailing him then.
Oh, give me a break.
Of course, Clinton was protecting Bin Laden.
They're all owned by Saudi Arabia.
And Congress said Saudi Arabia ran 9-11.
And that bipartisanly, the government stood down because of the embarrassment and covered it up.
That's what I mean by 9-11 is an inside job.
And yes, I'm a pioneer of exposing that.
They all know they did it with Saudi Arabia.
Who put together 9-11?
Saudi Arabia.
The Muslims more than anybody.
This is just amazing.
But look, but look, here's the thing.
Here's what's wrong with all that.
He has no business, no reason to blame Saudi Arabia.
Why?
He's never promoted that the planes were hijacked.
He promoted the theory that no plane hit the Pentagon.
That's where the Saudi link is.
That's where the 28 pages link is.
If you don't have the plane hitting the fucking Pentagon, you don't have a Saudi link.
He promotes the, he didn't go back in reverse and say, well, everybody, Al-Qaeda was real.
And, you know, all the planes were really hijacked.
No, he did not do that.
He's just writing on his bullshit, you know, Operation Northwoods reality.
You know, he says the Muslims run the Federal Reserve.
The other day, he said the West Germans are behind the SPLC.
He says the CHICOMs run everything.
Yeah, yeah.
It says the same besides what is most obvious.
Now, look, here's the other thing you got to remember is that first clip you point with, you know, Israel had their fingerprints all over in 9-11, but you got to remember the context and why he said that.
Why did he say that?
He was talking about instantly was right after Obama got into Obama.
And it was about Rahm Emmanuel, right?
So, oh boy, I'll talk about the Jews and Israel and the Israelis and all that.
You know, once they're Democrats.
If it's Obama and they're Democrats, exactly.
You're right.
You know, here's the other thing.
And you can just tell the point of him evading 9-11.
I remember verbally hearing him saying that he says that Obama was worse than Bush.
If he says that, that means that he was never, his heart was never in 9-11 truth.
He never cared.
I mean, the whole theory of 9-11 truth from him, his narrative was always about Bush, skull and bones.
It was all inside job.
Even the mantra inside job is almost a limited hangout type of thing because it's like blaming Bush when really I think this was a masterminded by Kabbalah waging war by deception, using pinning the Islam versus Christianity against each other.
That's straight from the Talmud.
Yeah, but yeah, there was Israeli interest to do that.
I'm not saying the Mossad had that, you know, but you have to really get the Arabs to do it too.
And there's got to be mutual, there's got to be mutual interests as well.
You know, so.
Speaking of some of the, let's finish this, and then I want to talk about some of the Zionist fingerprints and Jewish foreknowledge.
How did it invade these other countries?
How did it happen in the U.S.?
I mean, the U.S. wasn't involved?
Of course.
What are you saying?
Who is involved?
Who are the key players in 9-11?
It's totally compartmentalized.
So you run a drill of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon being attacked on that day.
And then I would just get bullied online and by leftist publications going, Jones hates Muslims.
Jones is a racist.
Jones is probably on the payroll of Israel.
Never been to Israel.
And it was actually their bullying trying to make it.
That don't make no sense.
The anti-Israel made me study it more and become pro-Israel.
So good luck.
So he just studied more and became pro-Israel.
That makes no sense.
How can the left have been attacking him and all this other stuff when, like, you know, back in the early days, Terror Storm, Endgame, all those were all part of that, you know, that left media distribution company.
It was literally called disinformation.
It was kind of a name.
But that's where, you know, he was getting a lot of publicity from.
Why?
Because he was, you know, absolving all the Arabs.
He was absolving Al-Qaeda being involved.
That's what he started from.
His whole thing was always been an Americana conspiracy.
That's what it is.
I want to talk a little bit about your thoughts on Jewish foreknowledge.
If we could just list all of the reasons why we think there was Zionist involvement Real quick, like we got the dancing Israelis, urban moving systems.
We have Odigo, the text messages that went out warning.
There's the anthrax that said death to America, death to Israel.
Yeah, it is Odigo, there's all that.
But you know how we know?
We know because of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
Explain that.
Explain that.
Because you have that, but that's, but that goes to the whole point of Alex Jones.
It's just like what, you know, we're talking about him being a shield after the millennium.
Let's acknowledge that he's been misleading all this time since he started in the 90s.
His whole career.
Yes.
Look, when it comes to the Oklahoma City bombing, does he talk about Andrea Straussmere?
No.
I don't know.
He doesn't know.
You know who Andrea Straussmere is, by the way?
I don't know.
Okay, Andrea Straussmuir was seen with Timothy McVeigh.
Okay.
He was German.
Okay.
He hung around in this neo-Nazi camp.
It was called Elohim City.
He was living there for a while.
He came from Germany like in the early 90s.
Okay.
He's supposedly a neo-Nazi.
He leaves Oklahoma City right afterwards.
He goes through Mexico, comes on a plane, goes back to Germany.
He's such a neo-Nazi that he ends up having a Jewish girlfriend, reading Hebrew, and having traveled to Israel.
Wow.
Andrea Straussmere.
If you want to read about him, read the Michael Collins Piper book, False, not False Flags.
I'm sorry.
The Judas Goats.
Okay.
I have read that.
So I just don't recall that part.
I think when you read it, you were traveling.
I remember you telling me about that.
I think you were traveling, so it's like...
I had a phone copy of it.
Yeah.
If you don't look into all these people, yeah, there's pictures of him.
He's appeared in a few documentaries, this Andrea Straussmere.
So if you're not going to even get the OKC bombing right, you're not going to get anything right.
So that's what my point is, is when you go back to 1993, you look at the fact that there was an apartment used by one of the conspirators linked to the rental van, which belonged to somebody named Josie Hadass, which was a Mossad agent, which was reported as a Mossad agent.
You also have the circumstances with Ramzi Youssef, the people that he brought with, the people he came in and was involved with the conspiracy with.
Ahmed Ajaj, he was a Mossad asset.
He was a bomb trainer trained by the Mossad.
Wow.
So.
So Jones covered up the 93 bombing, the role of Israel connections in that as well.
That's why he keeps saying that.
That's why when you talk to anybody about the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, they say what?
The FBI did it.
That's not what happened.
They talk about Imad Salem.
Imad Salem wasn't even, that's not part of the sting.
That happens to do with the New York landmark plot.
There's two things that went on that same year in 1993.
That's the whole thing with tying the blind cheek and Egyptian Islamic, you know, fundamentalism, you know, pre-Al Qaeda, whatever they want to call it.
But that's what those tape recordings were about.
They were talking about that, and that was that guy bluffing.
That informant was not involved in making the bomb.
He had quit being part of the cell beforehand because they wouldn't pay him $2 million to wear a wire and all that.
So he quit.
And when they quit the cell, there was no specific target of targeting the World Trade Center.
They were still talking about, they were still talking about doing pipe bombs, assassinations, and trying to free El Saeed Noser out of prison.
El Saeed Noser is the one who assassinated Rabbi Marikahana.
Now, he is a mastermind for 1993.
He still did coordinate the conspiracy from prison.
But so did Ahmed Ajaj, Ramzi Yousuf's companion that first came into the U.S. with him.
He gets caught at the airport, but he has all the bomb-making manuals.
They throw him in an INS jail, and he's still giving the instructions of how to build the bomb to Ramsey Youssef.
Meanwhile, you look at Ramsey Youssef, look at the things he's done.
You know, he's got a cousin that says that, you know, later on, it says he's got Mossad, Israeli roommates when he's busted.
You have KSM, who's, you know, apparently had traveled to Israel in 1995 or before then.
Oh, that's that's one you found, right?
KSM traveled to Israel.
That's a news clipping you found.
Yes, it's in a newspaper article.
He traveled to Israel.
They found out about that in 1995 when they raided the apartment of Ramzi Youssef when he was a fugitive.
So there's all that multiple, there's all these multiple, you know, there's all these overlapping interests.
There are Arab countries, there are Arab leaders and groups that will work with Israel because they want their leader out or they want change.
They want, you know, they want to shift things.
And some of them will be the Islamic fundamentalists.
Some of them will be secular.
You know?
I totally forgot about that.
That Khalid Sheikh, you sent me that article about Khalid Sheikh Muhammad.
The master, they claim he's the mastermind of 9-11, and you're saying he went to Israel.
Or the article said he went to Israel.
Yeah.
And his nephew is Ramzi Youssef, the 1993 conspirator, who comes to the country the first time with a Mossad asset.
I mean, look, look, Ron, you can say, people can say whatever they want about Ron Paul, but Ron Paul had more credibility than Alex Jones or any of these people back then.
His newspaper article, his newspaper, the Ron Paul newsletter, in like 1995, or I'm sorry, 1993 or 94, he was already implicating the Mossad involved in the 93 bombing.
I have the articles.
Here's a new one.
I saw this.
Architects and engineers shared this.
They said, like, newly discovered video of this reporter saying that there's a loud explosion.
I just wanted to watch this real quick.
Possibility that the fire was going to get worse.
All of a sudden, a loud, incredible loud explosion.
And we have the video to show you.
Now, what happened was the police started screaming, everyone started screaming.
It was a very foul odor.
We were covered in smoke, and everyone started running.
I started running as well.
My photographer Bate Warner did not run, and he was there filming all of the clouds, filming the billowing smoke.
And it was just incredibly frightening.
We see hundreds of policemen running away from the scene and just anyone that was in the area.
Now, we did speak to many firefighters and policemen.
Okay, so basically she just says loud, there was a loud explosion before Building 7 went down.
We've already heard that.
There's the video of the guy on the phone call on the, what are those called?
Phone booth.
He's in the phone booth and he goes, there's a huge explosion.
He goes, what was that?
Yeah.
You think those were pre-detonations in Building 7?
So when it came down, it came down more quiet.
I don't know.
It's kind of hard to tell.
I don't know where that shot's from.
I don't know if it's from whether the towers are still, one of the towers is still standing.
I don't know if it's a residual effect of a residual effect of something falling.
It sounds like an explosive to me.
It does.
Look, I don't know if it's the mural van blowing up.
Who knows?
Because apparently there's a report about a van on King Street that blew up.
I was going to ask you about that.
We always see this.
There's a moving van with a mural that has the twin towers and a plane on it.
There's a meme or there's a photo that goes around.
That's fake, but there's a real report.
Is that right?
Yes, there is a real report.
It's even brought up because they changed the news reports.
They ended up saying it's Middle Eastern men, which I think it was, but it's suspicious as hell.
Because then they also say it was a bakery truck, but it was a rental.
So that don't make sense unless it's a bakery truck using a rent, you know, using a, for some reason, using a rental van or something like that.
But it's very suspicious.
But the reason why we hear about an explosive happening is because, or a bomb in it, is because of FDNY and NYPD transponder communications reporting it, you know, and apprehending other than the NYPD.
You hear them, and it's like they apprehend these guys that say that they came out of a truck that blew up.
Yeah, my theory is that they wanted to blame the Palestinians on 9-11 as well.
That's why we had the FBI phone calls saying, oh, it looks like some Palestinians are mixing up a bomb in a white, I think it was a van or a white van.
By the airport.
Yeah, by the airport.
And the dancing Israelis said that we're not the problem.
The Palestinians are the problem.
But that tells you everything.
That means a lot.
It does.
And there was this, too.
Let me see.
9-11.
Where is this?
Oh.
I mean, in contrary to Osama bin Laden, supposed to be this new mastermind, and he's a Saudi.
So it's just like saying a Palestinian.
Yeah, it's pretty bold, isn't it?
It is.
Where?
Just had it.
Did you know that there was a banner that was hung up on an overpass that said death to Palestinians?
Here it is.
Watch this.
I remember September 11th.
And I remember by the time I got from my home to my office in Seattle, right, two hate crimes had already occurred.
In one case, someone had stuffed a stick of dynamite under a gas line in a house of a Jewish house of worship in Tacoma.
In the other, someone had hung a banner from Overpass saying death to the Palestinians.
Those were the first two, right?
And I used to ask people.
I wonder who could have been behind that.
Yeah, no doubt.
I remember you posting this or talking about this before.
Yeah.
This is something that must have got buried down the memory hole because I never heard about this until this guy said it.
It's like they were trying to get both sides, provoke both sides in a way.
And create, like, who was it?
Who's the radio host?
The Jewish guy?
Stern.
He was like, it's the Palestinians.
We've got to bomb the Palestinians.
That's what he said on the day of 9-11.
Yeah.
But remember, two days later, he ends up reading these newspaper articles about these people celebrating.
Oh, did he?
Yeah, he did.
He read the reports about the dancing Israelis on his show, dude.
wow.
There's the Silverstein-Netanyahu connection as well.
I find that interesting that Netanyahu was making weekly every Sunday, he had a phone call with Larry Silverstein.
I mean, talk about coincidences.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like I said, I don't put the whole, I don't have my, I don't put my, all my eggs in my basket as far as the property management angle because yeah, I look at the fact that like when Bill Silverstein bought the building, which he didn't get it until January, there was someone else who had outbidded him for 30 million more.
So, you know, I forget the names of him.
And he just said he had to have it.
He had to have it.
Even though it didn't have asbestos and low occupancy rate.
Yeah, but I don't buy all that.
Oh, I've seen the proof of that.
I remember the proof about all the asbestos.
No, I'm not talking about that.
I mean, I'm not, I'm not, it's just that I don't think, I'm not buying to the theory like, you know, oh, there was just this waste.
You know, I understand that was all there.
And, you know, that would, they were always going to have to have the process of cleaning it up.
But I, you know, to make 9-11 about, you know, a property management conspiracy or a cleanup, it's just, that's just really kind of cheap.
No, I'm not saying that's what it was.
I think that they needed Silverstein.
Silverstein said that like he had to have it.
Like something inside of him just told him that he had to have those buildings.
And I'm saying there was issues with the buildings.
Well, he owns, but look, but look what he owns.
He owns, he owns numerous skyscrapers.
He owns the U.S. Bank building at downtown LA.
He owned the Sears Tower.
And the Sears Tower was targeted too.
I can tell you for a fact it was.
I bet he's just a, you know, my guess is he's just a Mossad front and they needed one of their guys to be in control.
He talks to all those people, all those powerful Jews, all of them.
They talk to all of them.
All of them.
So here's some other foreknowledge.
And again, this is a story that the source is Mike Evans, who is like a nutty Christian Zionist/slash Jewish pastor.
And I've seen this reported.
Michael Evans in 1979 talked to, this is here he is with, this is the guy that, yeah, this is the guy that hands out the Friends of Zion award and has the Friends of Zion Museum.
This hardcore Zionist propagandist Michael Evans.
He, in 1979, he had a meeting with Isr Harel.
He was the former head of Mossad.
And he told them that Islam would attack us on our tallest buildings in New York.
14 years ago.
In 1979, he said that.
22 years before 9-11, that's what he said.
Yes.
Yes.
I agree with that.
And his third or second book was called Jihad.
Unfortunately, I'd like to read them, but they're all in Hebrew.
I mean, we have Netanyahu.
We have the former head of Mossad here.
This is what he said, too.
And this was reported in mainstream media also, this interview.
I think it was an article written by Mike Evans, actually.
He said, Do you think terrorism will come to America?
And if so, where and why?
I fear it will come to you in America.
America has that power, but not the will to fight terrorism.
That's the exact line that Netanyahu used in Congress to get us to go to war with Iraq.
The terrorists have the will, but not the power to fight America.
But all that could change with time.
Arab oil money buys more than tents.
As to where he continued, New York City is a symbol of freedom and capitalism.
It's likely they will strike the Empire State Building, your tallest building, and a symbol of your power.
It isn't.
Yeah, and he said Arab.
He didn't say Muslims.
Oh, yeah.
That's important.
That's an important detail.
We'll tell you that.
And then there's Arnon Milkon, the Israeli spy who is a billionaire movie producer that did Medusa Touch around the same time where the climax is.
Yeah.
Do you think this is proof?
I think it's just kind of tells you what they want the Americans kind of just dumbed down and just.
I mean, we saw all types of predictive programming type of stuff in all these movies and all these.
You could put Fight Club there too.
Yeah, Fight Club's full of it.
Right?
I mean, he literally, I mean, go ahead.
He produced the movie Heat and Heat.
I mean, that was that story of, you know, with Al Pacito and the other Italian actor.
What's his name?
The one that did he also produced the devil.
God.
But Heat was about the bank robbers that rob these banks in LA and they, you know, they fully take out the police and all that.
And then all of a sudden that it like influenced the North Hollywood shootout, the North Hollywood robbery, if you remember that a few years later.
Those guys were actually influenced by that movie Heat.
They're like, fuck, we can do that.
And they did.
I mean, just think of the coincidence that, and remember, according to Bolin, he believes that they were originally trying to do this years before, like in the 80s when they got control of the buildings.
And this guy in 79 has a movie where a plane crashes into a building like this, and he's hanging with Netanyahu.
He's deep in with Netanyahu as well.
And, I mean, admitted an Israeli spy.
Well, for Bolin's case, he can't explain who would have done it back then.
That's the problem I have with him and a bunch of other things.
It's like, that's fine to bring up these things happening back then.
You know, these ideas that maybe they were already trying to plan these things back then, but who would have been your suspects to do it?
They needed to have the suspects.
Look, they did.
No, they did.
They already did.
Oh, yes.
Wasn't Mujahideen funded in the 80s?
Who are they going to blame?
That's what I mean.
You're only looking at Islamic fundamentalists.
You're not looking at splinter terrorism.
You're not looking at all that.
All the secular terrorism.
Yes, you're not looking at terrorism that happened in Europe, in the Middle East, in the 80s and the 70s, and even in the late 60s.
You have to look at all that.
How amazing is it that these dancing Israeli, by the way, these dancing Israeli pictures, a fan of mine got them and sent them to me.
And I was the first person in the world to break these photos.
I just talked about that today with somebody.
Yeah.
It's amazing how so many people have covered it up, not covered this.
Alex Jones never covered when these came out.
You think this would be something worth covering?
The photos of the dancing Israelis that were set up to film.
Dershowitz was involved with helping them get home as well.
I was surprised that Jason Burmes did.
He actually did cover it.
This is what they said in the FBI report on the dancing Israelis.
The former employee that worked at Urban Moving Systems had said that these people, these Israeli employees were anti-America, and they said, quote, give us 20 years and we'll take over your media and destroy your country.
Well, talk about a prophet, huh?
Jewish prophet there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's true.
That's true.
That's exactly true.
I'm not denying that that's not how they think of us.
But that's why they're an enemy.
Based on the odd circumstances surrounding urban moving systems, which they're a known Mossad front, the deception over the alleged use of a video camera by its Israeli employees and the observed positive reaction by the Israeli detainees to the explosions at World Trade Center.
Explosions again with the explosions.
I thought there was no bombs.
Look, look, I wish you'd just go to my film, The George Washington Bridge 9-11 Truth or Urban Myth, because one of the great things that I show in those documents that the Newark FBI division that were the ones on this whole thing with the urban moving systems investigating it, they got awarded still because it all got covered up, but they got some medals for their efforts.
And literally, and it says in the police, it says in the report, it says that a statistics accomplishment award was over detecting foreign intelligence/slash terrorist front.
That's what it says on the documents.
Yeah.
Foreign intelligence slash terrorist front.
The fact that they tried to appoint or they did appoint Henry Kissinger to lead the investigation tells you everything you need to know about 9-11 and the investigation.
And it was good that they got it really quick.
And that was a fast move from the Jersey Girls.
Good.
Thank goodness for them.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
What's that documentary called about the Jersey Girls?
Press for Truth.
That is a documentary.
I mean, unfortunately, it doesn't talk about the Israelis.
It's probably one of the only films out there I will say that's the best out there that it doesn't cover the Israeli stuff.
Well, that was done really early on, and what they did focus on was damning.
It was very damning, and I think they should have covered more depth on certain things that they at least brought up.
But it does a damn good job.
I mean, it has some very good, reputable authors and researchers that made that documentary.
Did you guys know that Michael Jackson was scheduled to have a meeting on the morning of 9-11?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I knew that.
He played the night, he played the weekend before.
He had a two-day, there was a two-day thing about his birthday and all this stuff.
I've got the news clips.
And it's kind of weird because it's like, you know, they try to say, well, he was anti-Zionist and he didn't like Jews or whatnot.
But look, he was friends with Alvin Malnik, which was a Jewish mobster, Jewish mobster in Florida that was that's said to be an heir of Meyer Lansky.
And, you know, he used to go to parties with him all the time.
So, and, you know, Alvin Malnik, weird thing about that is that he's married to a, you know, no, his, his son's married to a Saudi.
Or I think, no, no, I think I think back.
I think he's married to a Saudi.
So his kids are half Jewish, half Saudi.
But, you know, they, they, they met with Saudi, you know, they were friends with Saudi royalty.
He owned property that's next to the where the flight schools of where the hijackers trained.
So it's weird, weird.
I remember hearing something recently about the flight schools, like somebody connected to Epstein, I think it was, owned one of the flight schools.
Is that what it was?
I think I've heard something like that.
And maybe it could maybe be someone like Alvin Malnik would have been tied in with him.
And maybe I'm guessing.
What was the guy's name, O'Neill, that was doing investigations into the flight schools and got killed?
Him and his family got killed.
Paul O'Neill?
No, I forgot that was John O'Neill.
No, no, John O'Neill died on 9-11, dude.
He died in the and he was working security.
He was the bin Laden expert that got appointed to security by Kroll and Associates in the World Trade Center right before 9-11.
His first day on the job, right?
Yeah.
Wow.
Now, when you go going back to talking about Arden Milken, I've talked about this on one of my Patreon videos.
I think I've exchanged this with you.
There is a weird tie with him with sex rings and all that.
And that ties back into the whole thing with Heidi Fleis, which was took an over her business, was taken over by a Mossad, a Mossad agent named Cookie Orgad.
The Madam companies, and he had Connects and Amdocs.
He's the one you see when they, when they, when the Fox News does the report on the spy ring and they talk about previous cases, you know, they talk about a case in late 90s in LA.
You know, that's Cookie Orgad.
He was slinging the ecstasy, slinging the Coke, all that stuff that was even getting to the art students.
So he was making, you know, he was big.
But yeah, weird thing enough, you know, he was business partners with Ivan Nagy, another Hungarian Jewish film producer.
He's the one that produced Starchkey and Hutch, the 70s show.
But they had ties and associations with Arnon Milken.
Arnon Milkon, the climatic scene of Fight Club, where the buildings all explode and collapse.
I mean, the coincidence of that.
And then we have, here's the Haretz article: Netanyahu and Silverstein every Sunday afternoons, since I guess the 90s would call Silverstein.
Yeah, but think about the audience reaction to that whole thing with Fight Club.
You know, oh, blow up our buildings.
Oh, blow up our, you know, oh, wow.
It's, you know, it's kind of setting dissonance, kind of like, you know, a very kind of anti-American position, if you think about it, you know, to kind of, it glorifies it.
Well, Arnon Milkon also made the JFK movie.
I know you're.
And you believe that was a cover-up disinformation film as well.
Look, I'm not saying it's not a cover-up.
I'm not saying that, like, look, Oliver Stone wasn't going to get any funding from anybody to get that movie done.
So he took it from whoever it was.
And obviously, Arnon Milken became of interest.
Did Arnon Nilmilken possibly have control with part of the narrative?
Sure.
All they had to do was cover up the circumstances with Jack Ruby and Bernard Shaw.
You're a Michael Collins Piper fan.
He wrote the book on the JFK getting assassinated by the Israelis, right?
Final Judgment?
Yeah, yeah.
But here's the thing with Michael Collins Piper says about the JFK movie.
He acknowledges that.
He acknowledges he's a spy and all that.
But he'll tell you straight up: watch the JFK movie.
It's a great movie.
Reason why?
It's a big fucking conspiracy.
There's so many people involved and so many things going on.
There's the drama of trying to uncover everything with attorney Jim Garrison.
I mean, part of the movie is about Jim Garrison himself.
So it's like, if you want to see what real investigation, how real investigating was done back in the day, you need to watch this movie.
People need to still watch this movie, regardless if Arnon Milken produced it.
You just need to watch it and read Viper's book.
I just saw somebody in the chat mentioned, you know, Matrix is back in the news again, and that his birthday had September 11th as his birthday.
Well, September 13th, isn't it?
No, September 11th, right there.
September 11th is the expiration date, I believe.
Yeah, September.
I'm looking at 13 above.
Okay, that's his birthday.
This one, whatever it was, the expiration date of expiration.
But September 13th is interesting because there were hijacking attempts on that day.
Oh, yeah, this is something else I wanted to play now, too.
Let's close this and we're going to wrap it up here.
I told you, an hour and a half.
This guy, Amir Safari, he is an Israeli former IDF Christian, real big messianic Jew, you know, Zionist.
And this is what he had to say about 9-11.
Another, you know, miraculous biblical foreknowledge.
Possibly he's lying or, I mean, let me know what you think.
Hold on, listen.
I fell in love with the fact that I can actually show my country through my eyes.
And it's important that the eyes of the believer who knows the scriptures and loves his country will be the eyes through which people see this country.
And I got out of the army.
I studied in the Hebrew University to become a government licensed tour guide and started guiding.
And that's when God really had me meeting so many amazing people.
The ministry, Behold Israel, started right after 9-11.
I was teaching in New York in 9-11 when those buildings came down.
I was actually on them the night before, asking what will happen if something's going to hit them.
And Behold Israel was born because I am sure, as I was then, that once you.
He claims he was in the World Trade Center the night before they were hit, asking what would happen if they're hit by, I guess, a plane.
What do you think of that?
And then he went to, you know, he's Israeli, served, he was a tour guide.
My guess, you know, very suspicious.
It's very suspicious.
I mean, I've even got one report of someone saying like they had talked to somebody that like that was from Israel and he had just walked out of the building and then the plane crashed.
I've seen a witness account of someone really like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, there were the Odigo messages.
Like people, people like Snopes and people try to dismiss that and say it's a conspiracy there, but it's 100% true.
There was 100% true.
It is.
There were text messages in Hebrew that went out to we don't know how it a minimum of two people, probably a lot more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's yeah, yeah, that's just like, yeah, they go to hell.
Bullshit.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, I did a few videos back in May about the collapse of the buildings about the free fall is impossible, inevitable collapse, that there is no inevitable collapse.
What do you think?
Is 9-11 Truth over and done with?
Is it dead or do you think there's still Not everybody.
Do you think that?
What am I trying to ask here?
I guess.
The truth is known.
Do you think the truth is known?
Because a lot of people online and a lot of people, you know, I've done interviews on the streets.
People question the official story at a minimum.
I think you're asking, are we ever going to get any transparency out of this?
Yeah, what do you think?
Not what the people that are leading it right now, especially like El Cena for 9-11.
I mean, that David Meiswinkle guy.
I know I've talked to people that have talked to him, and he believes in like Illuminati.
Like he thinks it was a satanic conspiracy.
This is the guy running the lawsuit for you guys, 9-11 Truth.
He thinks it's a satanic conspiracy.
It's funny because I saw your video here, and I knew this.
Michael Aquino, the Satanist that's involved with like, what is it, Mind Wars, and wrote the book with LeHay?
Le Viehi.
Is that what's his name?
LeHay.
He was part of the satanic church with Santa with Anton LeVay.
Yeah.
Okay, no, not Anton LeVay, though.
I was thinking of Tim LaHaye.
It's the Paul Vallehi.
Paul Vallehi co-wrote the book with him, I'm pretty sure.
And this is the Satanist, Michael Aquino, is a 9-11 conspiracy theorist.
Yeah, yeah, he became one.
He died recently.
Doesn't he even blame Israel?
He says Israel's behind it.
Well, he says MI6, the CIA, but then he says no planes hit the World Trade Center, no plane hit the Pentagon.
You know, he doesn't go to the space nukes thing with Judy Woods, but you know, the plane swap theories, you know, nanothermite, and you know, the moon landing's fake.
All the best part is the end.
For the longest time, it was so obvious that the Judy Wood people, like, they were, they would have spammers and bots promoting that stuff, and it was just females, too.
It's always females.
Jesse Ventura.
And here's the other thing I always notice about the Judy Woods fans.
It's always not just females.
It's always like Canadians, people from the UK and Australia.
Foreigners.
Who knows if they're really there?
I don't know why.
Maybe it's easy for them to create bot and sock puppets for people that aren't in America because it's like less chance that anybody will figure out who they really are, that they're not a real person, something like that.
Yeah.
But, you know, what's your question so far as 9-11 Truth?
You know, are we ever going to get anything?
I'm like, look, there needs to be a big lawsuit.
There needs to be something that's going to get us the documents that we need that's going to be able to enforce the law, you know, enforce Who we want to get arrested?
Who we want to charge?
You know, my friend Ed Brotherton has great ideas about that.
And it would be on a state-by-state level, but we need something that's going to have, you know, something that's going to sue for the victims' families, you know.
You know, I thought I'd been seeing in the reports recently that some survivors or some family of the victims are suing.
Yeah, but we need to include all the other.
It's not just Saudi Arabia.
We need to include Pakistan.
We need to include Israel.
You know, we should stop aiding these countries.
Oh, that's something else.
Biden and Trump blocked the families from able pursuing lawsuits against people, Saudi Arabians.
You know, I think even Morocco is involved.
You've told me that before, yeah.
Well, by saying Morocco is involved, though, it sounds like the whole country?
Not the whole country.
I'm not saying all of Saudi Arabia is.
Well, who?
The leadership, the president?
What are you saying?
These parties, people in the governments involved?
Yes.
Okay, so some people in government were involved.
But we shouldn't be aiding these countries.
That's the main thing.
We shouldn't be.
No.
What do you think about Afghanistan?
You know, how embarrassing that was, the way we left.
The whole thing looked like a disaster.
Well, it was going to be.
It always was in the beginning.
We didn't have proof to even go in there in the first place.
You know, the Taliban were offering their, they kept saying, provide us proof, provide us proof, and we'll hand them over.
They gave restrictions to bin Laden.
That's true.
And bin Laden denied responsibility.
Do you think that that was sincere, that he really wasn't involved?
I think he was still a financier, but he's definitely not a mastermind.
He was not even known to be a good fighter.
Do you think Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind?
No.
Nope.
But I think he was pushing.
He was a manager.
He was a coordinator for it.
Do you think he was working on his own behalf?
Or there was, was there any Israeli involvement with him, Mossad involvement?
Well, of course.
Why is he traveling to Israel?
Oh, that's right.
All right.
Here's an interesting one, too.
I don't know if you've seen this.
Jeremy Roth Cushel questions Biden, President Biden on 9-11.
Biden's face is the reason I want to play this is because he looks scared.
He looks very uncomfortable here.
Have you seen this one?
Was this the one from our We Are Change LA?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
I know the people in it.
Yeah.
Jeremy, here, let's watch it.
President Biden.
Yes, I'm Jeremy Roth Couchel with WACLA Media.
Jerry, five, you're here to be president.
Yeah, you might be.
He is president.
So it seems like with the kind of work that Esperance and communities around the world are doing in terms of rejuvenating themselves, we could all rejuvenate our communities.
So I want to ask you about the role, the foundational role of restoring the rule of law has in terms of rejuvenating our economy.
Because there was a recent scientific paper that came out.
I don't know if you know about it, but it basically is conclusive that the World Trade Center was blown up by very high advanced explosives.
And it should have been continuing to be the very highest news story right now.
So my question to you is: when are you and President Obama going to ask the Department of Justice to start a criminal investigation in terms of who produced this advanced nanothermite and who put it in the World Trade Center?
And if you all are not going to, yeah, you check it out.
See the report.
He picks up the report.
Is it possible for we, the American people, to trust you with.
Are you familiar with this report?
Is this the one where we got all the photos of like the little balls of this is like the nanothermite paper?
It's like the peer review or something like that.
Is it legit?
Have you seen it debunked?
I don't believe nanothermite is, but I mean, is it a legit claim for him to be saying explosives were used?
Yeah, but that's not proof of it.
So are you familiar with this study?
Like, have you seen that it's been debunked or something?
Why do you...
You don't need cutter charges.
You don't need to be cutting steel.
You just put the bombs on there.
The only reason you would put cutter charges on there, if you want the building to come down a certain speed, a certain pile, consecutively in one, minimizing any debris coming out.
That's why you put the corners.
That's why you put the cutter charges, which is what they say The nanothermite was used for.
You don't need to do that.
This is a terrorist act.
They don't care about neighboring buildings.
They don't care where it's going to blow out.
You don't need thermite.
But you don't need it, but just because you don't need it doesn't mean that some wasn't used.
So do you think these studies are bogus?
Of course.
Why do you say that?
Why do you say that they're bogus?
Look at the circumstances of how this so-called ananothermite was collected, when it was collected, who collected it, and the review of it.
Even one of the persons who got a sample of it said that he didn't find anything in it.
And he was not even an anti-he didn't, it wasn't that he didn't believe in explosives.
He did.
And because it wasn't in his sample, it didn't stop him from believing in it.
But he said, look, there's none of my samples.
And his didn't get added to the report.
What about the molten steel?
The video and the photos of the molten, the molten metals coming out.
Well, there's molten metal during the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
When the bomb went off in 1993, it created a huge ass crater that it basically caught, melted an entire car.
You had firemen saying that it looked like the mouth of a volcano.
They said it looked like a barbecue pit.
On 93, they said that also?
Because they said the same thing.
They said it looked like a foundry.
There was molten steel blowing like a foundry on 9-11.
All in my 1993 World Trade Center bombing film, you can see the firemen saying this.
It looked like the mouth of a volcano.
And they weren't able to get to the blast crater until the next day.
It was so hard to put out that fire.
It was immense.
So, yeah.
It's not a big deal.
One of these documentaries, I don't know if it's part one or part two, but the whole beginning, you have a compilation of all of the talking about explosions and bombs of the witnesses.
That's from Zeitgeist.
Oh, it is.
Yeah, that's when I sampled Zeitgeist.
That's an inconvenient 9-11 truth.
Oh, I feel like you had way more than was ever in Zeitgeist.
It would probably be that one because then I had all the GWB reports, you know.
But then I brought clarity to all that with the George Washington Bridge film.
Because there was not a van packed with explosives on the George Washington Bridge.
It's misreporting on the arrest of the dancing Israelis that were near a river bridge.
That's why all the reports kept saying George Washington Bridge Meadowlands, the George Washington Bridge is not in the meadowlands.
What's in the meadowlands is the stadium, the hotel, and the river bridge.
All with the dancing Israelis were arrested.
Do you see?
It's funny.
Alex Jones used to claim that Trump was going to expose 9-11, and he literally was like surrounded by so many people that were like intimately involved with 9-11.
Well, Giuliani writes, Netanyahu.
I don't, like I said, I'm not into the property management conspiracy.
Like the whole Giuliani thing.
Like if he was really, if he really knew, then why did he go to Building 7 when the towers were still there and almost get killed?
Well, he left also.
He must have left.
Everybody left.
He was also trapped for 15 minutes after the tower came down.
Well, yeah, he definitely went along with the cover-up or played his role, limited knowledge role.
They only tell people what they have to tell them.
They all did.
They all did.
Look, it's not just the fact that they're covering up explosive evidence of the Twin Towers.
They're covering up the fact of all these arrests.
They're not talking about all these arrests.
They're there as it's like crisis management.
They're trying to reduce the paranoia and let people know, like, look, look, everything's fine.
Don't have to go out and be a vigilante or whatnot.
Go about your business.
Let's get the economy rolling because that's all they care about.
Point being, which is what should be exposed about Joe Biden, is that on September 13th, when all these reports were coming out about planes being hijacked at JFK LaGuardia Airport, there stands, you know, John, Joe Biden interviewed by ABC News on the evening and Biden saying, oh, no, there's no real hijacking is going on.
We should keep the planes going.
Like, no, they didn't even change anything with the security really much With the airports that quickly after the attacks.
And there was a threat for more hijacking attempts, and he tried to downplay it.
You know, and we also know he was having a meeting with the ISI general, you know, Mahmoud Ahmed, who was who wired money to Mohammed Atta through it through Omar Saeed Sheikh, which was another guy who was busted in Pakistan.
That's Biden, right?
Biden was meeting with him.
Pakistani ISI, who was connected to some of the hijackers, the funding, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, Biden's incompetent.
He was completely incompetent, saying, oh, no, no, the plane, no, the airports are fine.
Fly, fly.
No.
Do you remember the video of John Kerry?
He was questioned probably by We Are Change.
And he said, oh, I'm pretty sure they brought down Building 7 on purpose.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
It shows how little he knew about that.
Okay, last question.
We're going to wrap it up here.
You saw my video I did the other day about Putin and his connections to 9-11 and the war on terror, my response to Ryan Dawson.
What's your thoughts on that?
I don't buy that the Russians are involved with it.
I mean, look.
You didn't see how Putin was talking about trusting Bush and him and Bush were buddies and that he was excited to join the war on terror.
And then Ehud Barak and BBC said, oh, we need a coalition of America, blah, blah, blah, and Russia to go after the war on terror.
Of course that's what he wants.
Of course that's what Ehud Barak wants.
And then what about the drills?
The Russians were doing drills, I think, in the Arctic or the North Pacific.
Yeah.
And that pulled away NORAD, so they weren't able to respond.
That seems quite coincidental as well, don't you think?
They warned us.
They even warned, like, Russia warned us before the attack.
They warned even Bush when he went to go to the G8 summit that there might be an assassination attempt on you and they put all this extra security.
This was noted in August.
And Mossad, Mossad and Putin warned them that something was going to happen.
Do you think that that's because they wanted to have, like, if somebody, like, say somebody gives you a stock tip and they go, hey, man, this stock's going to go up.
You should buy it.
And then it turns out they're right.
It kind of gives them credibility.
So they look to you in the response to 9-11.
Do you think that's what it is?
Why they gave these warnings?
No, no.
Look.
Why would they warn then if they were playing the role or if they were involved?
Because Mossad warned but it wasn't a specific warning but if they warned him...
I'm not sure.
It was, I'm not sure what part of Israeli intelligence gave some slight warning.
But then there was also another warning that was contradictory.
You know, they were saying, oh, there's 200 Arabs to be, you have 200 suspects to be going after.
And they're all of a sudden giving us this number after the attacks.
So, you know, it's very, it's very, very vague, these warnings.
You know, they also said, I also read somewhere that given a name.
Oh, and it makes you not a suspect.
It's like, oh, don't, you know, we weren't involved.
We warned you.
It kind of has that vibe to it, too, don't you think?
They gave it, there was something I read elsewhere that they gave a name of 20 names of different suspects, but only four of them actually turned out to be 9-11 hijackers, and one of them was Atta.
How amazing is it that they had all the photos and the identities of all these hijackers like the day of, the night of?
When was it?
When was it?
Because I know you've gone through so much archive video.
How long was it before they had him?
All the photos of all 19 hijackers did not appear in the public till September 27th.
27th.
Okay.
I don't know why my memory makes me think that they knew it right away.
Nobody knows this.
No, that's not.
That's just a common thing you hear blabbed out from people, and it's not accurate at all.
They didn't name the 19 names until September 14th.
But on September 13th, they said that there were only 18 names, and then they revealed it on the morning of 9-14, but then added one more name on there, which was Hani Hanjor.
It's interesting that the 19th hijacker Masawi says that he said that, What do you say?
Bandar Bush was involved?
I think it's more interesting that he shared a computer with Nick Berg.
Who is that?
A Jewish person, I assume?
Obviously.
Oh, is that the reporter that was kidnapped?
There was a Jewish reporter.
Explain that.
I'm coming out with a whole film about it, dude.
Explain that.
Who is this Berg guy?
Nick Berg was using Mohammed Atta's laptop or password when they were in Oklahoma.
And Berg was a journalist that was kidnapped and beheaded?
No, he wasn't a journalist.
He was a contractor that wanted to build a telecommunications thing in Iraq, calling it Babylon Towers.
Yeah, there's your religion stuff.
Oh, like I said, I'm going to make a film about this.
I've been working on it for a while.
I will.
I'll just share it to you, the script, what it's going to be about beforehand, so you can get the information because it's going to be alarming because there's going to be stuff that I can't even put into it.
And I wanted to tell it to you separately.
But yeah, he was Mossad.
You know, I introduced you today as one of the most dedicated and knowledgeable 9-11 researchers.
You've done a ton of documentaries.
We're 20 years in now.
Are you going to do you see yourself slowing down on the 9-11 truth?
Or are you going to keep grinding this?
You know, I don't know.
I'm going to wait and see.
What motivates you to keep doing this?
Because you have been just so laser-focused on 9-11 and the surrounding issues so much.
Well, what keeps me focused is that it's an unsolved crime still.
And I've been doing this for a long time.
I went out there and I was public about a lot of claims that were not true.
And I need to correct them.
Okay.
That's why I'm still here.
Because, yeah, there's a lot of bullshit with 9-11 truth.
And there's still a lot of bullshit with the, you know, with the official version.
So many of the 9-11 truth people I used to know are all, so many of them are now deep into QAnon and love Trump.
It just makes me really get discouraged with a lot of these people and the whole movement.
The Trump part, I can kind of understand, but you still have to talk with these people, you know, because don't let them get all worship with Trump.
But I mean, I still glad he won.
I know you don't like him, and I understand that.
He basically said he's going to run again today.
He's going to be back, I think.
I don't think he'll win, though, even if he does.
You know, I couldn't have, we couldn't have it, we couldn't afford a Clinton dynasty.
We couldn't afford another dynasty in office, dude.
You know what I mean?
The Clintons, look what they did in the 90s.
They covered up the 93 bombing.
They covered up OKC.
All those were the road to 9-11.
They're all connected.
Look, look, but my new film, let me explain something to you really quick.
My new film, Inside Job, Boston Logan 9-11, at the end, when I talk about Akas even with Israeli links, I bring that up.
I also explain that Hussein al-Husseini, the suspected John Doe number two, in the rider truck with Timothy McVay, him right there.
Yeah, exactly.
He worked at Boston Logan Airport.
Wow.
Even up until 9-11.
And he was having panic attacks, saying that he was scared that he was going to that something's going to happen that they're going to blame me.
Wasn't it also Israeli?
Oh, he was scared he was going to get set up as a Patsy.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a guilty conscience.
He knows he's involved with some bad people.
Wasn't it an Israeli company that was in charge of security at these airports?
Yeah, but that don't really matter because the passenger screening doesn't matter when you're able to disguise yourself as an employee and you have unrestricted access of the airport.
Why do you care about passenger secreting?
You can just get the weapons on board outside of that.
And I even show that there was a case where there was a 17-year-old Jewish guy that wanted to impress two Mossad agents and snuck on board a British Airlines plane in 1999 at Boston Logan.
And he made it all the way to the UK.
How will make all the way to go to?
Yeah.
Adam Godon, the Jewish guy, where his grandpa was like the head of the ADL.
He was this top Islamic terrorist.
That is so just embarrassing.
That's another one in New York.
Isn't there a Cohen?
Was there?
Adam Godon.
Yeah, but there's a Cohen.
Yeah, there's a Cohen in New York.
I forget his name.
His name is real name is Joseph Cohen, but he changed it.
He stays his name into an Islamic name, Arab name, yeah.
This guy, Adam Gadon, was a...
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
Fake Al-Qaeda terrorist.
Adam Perlman was his real name.
Yeah.
This is what they were using.
This Jewish guy dressed up like an Arab.
This is what they were using.
Adam Perlman.
Anyway, it just...
There's so many...
They infiltrate.
Ali Mohammed is another one, right?
He was involved, Israeli that was involved with these Arab groups.
No, he could speak Hebrew, but he doesn't matter so much anymore, Adam.
I got to tell you, oh man, we're going to have a conversation about that.
It's all right.
I don't know much.
I don't think about him much.
No, but I'm just telling you, but here's the thing.
The whole thing about El Saeed Noser matters because that's the whole circumstance with Ali Muhammad.
He was supposedly, he had supposedly trained Noser.
Well, I got news for you.
No, he did not.
Noser was already a trained terrorist when he entered the United States.
And he came in this country in 1981.
That's when Noser came into the country.
Have you heard of this guy?
He came into the country in 85.
Yeah.
Yusuf al-Khadab, born as an American Jew.
That's the Cohen I was talking about.
That's who you were talking about.
That's him before.
I don't know if this is accurate.
And then he turned.
Dude, that's so.
What really happened.com?
All right.
Let's get this wrapped up.
Our 20-year anniversary breakdown.
So much to talk about.
I appreciate you joining me.
Any final thoughts or plugs for which documentary you want people to watch first?
You know, with your crowd, I'm going to say maybe they don't need to be reaffirmed about the hijackings.
They get the idea, like, look, okay, I'm telling you, the hijackings are real.
Trust me on all that.
Now, if you want to know, you want to take it further, you watch the 1993 World Trade Center bombing film.
I call it the bombing, World Trade Center bombing of 1993.
That's why I call it of, because then there is the bombing of 2001, which is 9-11.
That's why I title that, and it is five hours.
Go through it all.
Take your time.
Watch it.
Take notes.
You're going to find so many things you're not seeing anywhere else.
And yes, I do expose Alex Jones a lot.
And I even use part of your work, Adam.
I have that piece that you did.
I use that piece that you did covering Jones.
I forget, but it's like 10 minutes long.
But it's in there.
And all I can say is check out my channel, subscribe.
If you're really serious, become one of my Patreons.
And I'll take you to the next level.
All right.
Thermal Detonator.
I appreciate you for coming on to chat with me about all this 20 years later.
Everybody, I appreciate you all watching.
Let us know what you think in the comments.
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Take care.
And thanks so much.
Thanks so much.
Thank you, Adam.
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