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Aug. 22, 2020 - Know More News - Adam Green
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Adam Green here with Nomore News.org.
Today is Sunday, August 16th, 2020.
Thank you for joining me.
Today we are joined by the one and only, once again, Mr. Galad Otzman, musician, activist, philosopher, author.
He's written the books Being in Time, The Wandering Who, the Israel, A to Z, A to Zion, and several others.
Thank you once again for being here, Gilad.
It's good to have you.
Great to great to be with you again.
Thank you for inviting me.
Absolutely.
Well, we got cut a little short last time, so there's always more to talk about.
The audience was happy to have you on, so we're gonna have to uh have to discuss some more.
So just so everybody knows, we are get this out of the way.
We are streaming on No More News 2, the backup channel because I got a strike uh almost a week ago.
I thought we were gonna be able to stream today on the main channel, but my Beirut explod my video Beirut explosion caused by Israeli missile got me a strike and a suspension for a week and with no explanation, it was one of my more mild videos, but it's it was enough.
I must have been getting too close.
Uh, what are your thoughts, Galod on the Beirut explosion?
Uh I was um I also saw obviously the footage um that allegedly uh suggested that there was um a missile there.
There were a lot of things that were very, very, very strange.
Um and I think that now you're slightly familiar with my work.
Uh for me, you know, rather than um trying to say what really happened based on evidence or evidence that proved to be forge, and uh you know, I just prefer not to go there.
What I do instead, I analyze the discourse, and the most obvious thing about uh the Beirut explosion was it was almost like a building number seven um uh moment.
Uh pretty much as soon as it happened, Israel declared through one of its spokesmen that it has nothing, that it had nothing to do with it.
Yeah.
Now what do we learn from such um admission?
The first thing that uh we understand is that Israel obviously sees itself as a prime suspect.
Yeah, prime suspect, exactly.
All right, Israel sees itself as a prime suspect.
Why Israel sees itself as a prime suspect?
Because Israel knows that it is capable of doing such a thing.
Why israel know that it is capable of doing such a thing?
Because Israel is basically bombarded, using missiles, using drones, using death tactics, or similar tactics, uh on uh on pretty much a daily basis in Syria.
Some people say in uh eastern Iraq and even in Iran.
Well they've been known for like infiltrating Lebanon with their spies and stuff too.
It might have not even been a missile.
It could have just been.
Of course.
Now Israel.
There are a lot of things to say to say about it.
To start to start with, I saw the video, and I don't have the means to uh to uh to decide whether it was genuine or not, whether it was thermal or not, but Israel is bragging about, for instance, it's laser technology.
Um it claims to be kind of a leading force on that domain.
Um this is something that would look very much the same and would cause such an impact and so on and so on.
I I read a lot of uh people talk about laser technology or high velocity beam again.
I don't have the means to check it out, but uh like in the case of corona, that actually I think leads to the same place, we have to understand that a lot of our political issues, our medical concerns and so on and so on.
Corona is a medical concern, should be investigated criminally.
Um the fact that uh Lebanon, by the way, uh denies now or is reluctant uh to blame uh Israel can be explained, even if the Lebanese knew that it was Israel,
it would be a very dangerous um for them to put the blame on Israel, and why because such a crime would call for
a serious uh Hisbala retaliation, and uh Hezbollah has the means now to eat Israeli hard because it has all these precision missiles and so on and so on.
It would call for an attack on strategic places in Israeli, in Israel in Tel Aviv in Haifa and so on and so on.
Such retaliation would obviously lead to a huge escalation, and that would uh probably um eradicate Lebanon infrastructure and the consequences will be very serious for Hezbollah itself.
So the situation is complicated, we don't know the truth, it may take a while before we know the truth.
What I'm trying to tell you, I don't have them the means to to say that it's Israel, all I know about Israel that Israel admitted before anything else that uh you know, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, that it had not you know that it sees itself as a prime suspect, which is very which is revealing.
But what I'm saying is that even if it is Israel and the Lebanese or Lebanese elements know that it is Israel and they know that there was a drone and it was a high velocity beam or the Israeli Navy SEAL, which is a Israel top unit, it's one of the two best units in Israel that is trained to to operate in ports and so on and so on.
Even if this is the case, the Lebanese would be very stupid to admit it as it is.
If they know about it and plan to bring the truth out, they will do it very, very slowly.
and would probably try to make sure that Israel is punished through an international channels in order to prevent Hisbalah to operate.
Well, I find it interesting because number one, my video got taken down in a strike.
A few of my other friends, um, Israeli News Live just got off of their suspension, their Beirut video got taken down too.
We're not even allowed to speculate that it was Israel.
Even though Israel knows they're the prime suspect, they've been it, they've been kind of like with a you know a cold war with Lebanon for for decades.
They've had they've done many attacks there, a lot of infiltration.
We're not allowed to speculate on YouTube that Israel did it.
Israel comes out right away and says they didn't do it, but then at the same time, they're also blaming Hezbollah.
They're saying, Oh, Hezbollah, Lebanon can't put up with Hezbollah anymore, and Hezbollah's uh making weapons there and stuff, and then maybe Lebanon is embarrassed and doesn't want the to admit that they were harboring, you know, miss making missiles there or something,
and then of course the investigation is going on, they're looking for they're trying to figure out who left the the stockpile of the the nitrate stuff there and who owned who owned the the warehouse and now the FBI is gonna go help them investigate, and you know that they're just gonna try to pin the blame on Hezbollah because they are they already are yeah uh of course, of course.
I I think that you are kind of um if the most uh interesting story, and the most interesting story is the fact that we can't talk about a lot of things that have one thing in common,
and this is probably an indication that our Western fantasy of liberal existence is now a nostalgic moment.
The world as we know it has changed, and we are subject to the most troubling aspects of Jewish power.
Don't remember whether I uh shared with you my definition of uh Jewish power, but now it is quite famous.
The way I define Jewish power, Jewish power is the power to silence criticism of Jewish power.
Alright, this is very crucial, and this is something that we are seeing all the time.
So if you are saying something on YouTube that may identify Israel or its lobby,
you'll be your your video will be taken down, or your uh channel uh would be suspended or deleted.
The same applies to uh criticism of Jewish privilege, and again, I think that you don't need me to know how powerful um Jewish elite is.
This is quite obvious.
Yesterday I was uh I had a debate with someone, and I looked at uh the history of um Jeff Bezos, and I suddenly the the second thing that I fell upon was a time of Israel um time of Israel uh article from 2018 bragging about the fact that five of the most uh of the wealthiest uh out
of ten, five of the five out of ten wealthiest Americans are Jews, which is basically 50%, which is 25 times overrepresented, it's 2500% overrepresented.
Statistics to don't do math, Gulad.
Statistics are anti-Semitic, don't forget.
I I fully fully fully aware, and I already uh apologize uh for um introducing numbers uh where they don't they don't belong.
Um okay, so so you you don't need me, every everyone sees it.
Uh I think that um you know no more news.
I think that we spoke about last time we definitely spoke about it.
There were many ways to explore this idea, but if I have to put it in three words, is in two words is rewards, the going no.
And the going no means that uh that uh everyone can see it, and this is why um Jews are so fearful of anti-Semitism, despite the fact that there is no uh uh anti-Semitism really.
Some people oppose uh a certain type of uh Jewish politics, some people are really upset by uh Weinstein, some people are upset by Weinstein and Epstein and Maxwell and Wexner and Barack and Dershowitz and some people are green black or who make me the most upset.
But you know, there are listen, some people are upset by all of those together, but there is no really, and I'm very happy about it.
You know, obviously the I don't want to see violence.
Uh there is no really uh in the press, in the media, uh in the streets, there is very very rarely we see any kind of uh attack on on Jews, and definitely we never see an attack or criticism of Jews for being Jews.
Alright, so when people criticize uh Jews or Jewish power, they criticize very specific uh behavior, conduct, policies, and so on and so on.
What we can see is that we are driven now in the open, and this is another very important thing that I have to share with your audience.
I know that a lot of people uh speak about conspiracies, and I don't say that there is there are no conspiracies, but I actually I argue for years that there are no Jewish conspiracies, they do whatever they do in the open open secret.
We see it, and by the way, by the way, and I thought about it today when I was preparing uh myself to uh to our meeting.
Have you ever thought about the word chutzpah?
You know this word, yeah, every American knows the words.
Why do we use an Eddish word for chutzpah?
Because Anglo-Americans, Anglo-Saxon don't think in this terms.
The idea of not conspiring, doing everything in the in your face, however, to making sure that you cannot talk about it, this is the so, for instance, Facebook telling us that we cannot talk about uh Jewish uh power, Jewish dominant domination.
Jews controlling the world.
Is ispain why it is a husband, because when I looked at this uh Forbes uh list, I think that um Zuckerberg was number two, number one, number three, it was on the top.
Yeah.
So the fact that we cannot really talk about the rich and the privilege is obviously a chutpa.
Why?
Because the stereotype, the art stereotype, stops us from talking about the stereotypical.
Now, this is not a Jewish invention.
This is how organized crime operates.
When it comes to organized crime, you know what are the things that you are not allowed to talk about.
And the question that concerns me at the moment is whether us, the people are willing to live under the rule of this new mob.
And I'm gonna tell you something uh pretty devastating, and you mentioned my books before, and I explored it in being in time.
I actually identify in being in time those elements that are responsible for the cultural shift that got us to where we are now.
The cultural shift that uh introduced gender politics, identitarian politics that took the left away from fight against capitalism into race wars, um the invention of new oppressed,
and so on and so on, the sex revolution, all those issues that turn Marxism into neo-Marxism, post-Marxism, and some people call it the cultural Marxism and so on and so on,
that actually dismantled the ability of our kids, my kids, to fight back because they don't even understand the most fundamental issues that are involved with their emancipation.
So the meaning of it is that if we have a chance to turn things around, we have basically a window of seven years or ten years, and why the people who go to the streets are not people in my age.
You know, we go and we do once the demonstration once a decade, and I don't, I myself don't, I'm not an activist.
You've introduced me as an activist, I'm not an activist, I'm just active intellectually.
I'm not corrected myself and said philosopher.
Yeah.
No, no, I'm I'm I'm not I'm I'm very active, but I don't believe in activism.
But the kids that are supposed to go to the streets in the next seven years, do they remember what it meant to be free?
Do they understand this idea that was so important to America even 10 years ago?
Americans company, listen, we have the First Amendment, freedom of speech and so on and so on.
I think that this is all gone.
Freedom of speech is now regarded as public enemy number one.
Um notice that you just just to interrupt real quick.
The other day when when David Duke was banned from Twitter, there was it was top trending, and there were so many thousands of comments of people just celebrating, saying, Yeah, ban Tucker Carlson and ban Trump and just ban everybody in America if we can't even agree on freedom of speech as like the number one freedom, then like what do what common values do we have?
I think I think I I think that America was a very unique uh creation and it was a very attractive creation for many people.
This is why so many people immigrated to America.
This is something that maybe I should mention.
When people come immigrate to England, to Britain, let's say, or to France or to Germany, it is because they're looking for work, they're looking for better life, maybe they have a job that they can only pursue in these countries.
When people immigrated to America, they assimilated into an ideology, into this vague idea of freedom.
America never been a free place, but there was this aspiration, this fantasy of freedom.
This fantasy is definitely gone.
And practically it is as oppressive as a place can be.
Like the USSR noticed you compare USA to USSR in some of your recent tweets.
Yeah, exactly.
When I see America and I wrote it today, when is it USA or USSR?
It starts to sound like the stories we read in Solzhenitsin work.
You know, I read about this uh journalist uh that was arrested today for uh for producing an expose and I thought about it today.
Well, hold on, that's Millie Weaver from InfoWars.
We're not sure that her documentary is the reason she got arrested.
There's a lot of uh speculation and suspicion about that.
Okay, I I I accept it.
I I myself couldn't uh figure out, but this is how it was uh it was uh presented.
Um we will wait uh she's a Zion, she's a Zionist that works for InfoWars, she loves Laura Loomer, the big Zionist that's running for Congress.
Yeah, yeah.
Um for me, by the way, as you probably know when it comes to uh to Jewish uh to the Jewish world, sometime I'm uh more uh excited about Zionists being genuine and tell us things as they see them rather than the control opposition that is a symptomatic of Jewish left.
And this is the and I I mention it now, um text of my criticism of left in general.
When you think about traditional left, anti-capitalism, Marxism and so on and so on, it is quite clear what drove it in the early stages,
it was this belief in working class ability to liberate itself and so on and so on, and as we know it never really happened, but uh let's assume that it portrays itself as a genuine uh as a genuine belief.
We know how dominant were Jews in the Marxist movement globally from the very beginning.
I'm talking about actually the West, you know, when it comes to China or Latin America, uh it's uh it's a bit different, and by the way, um this is why Marxism was way more practical, realistic, and actually achieved a lot in these in some of these countries.
Uh maybe China is a better example than Cuba, although you know, I think that they did quite a few things in Cuba and Venezuela that should make us jealous, despite the problem that they have there.
However, when you think about it, in those early years, 19th century, when Marx was around, when Marxism started to kind of gather energy, Jews started to get involved in banking in trade, became more influential, significant, but it wasn't a total domination.
You know, so when we look at the Germany in 1870, I don't think that 50% of the 10 richest Germans were Jews.
So it was very convenient for Marxists and for Jewish Marxists to attack the wealth, the capitalists, the abusers, and so on and so on.
What is so amazing for me about the left is that now in America, the Jew, the Jewish elite, the Jewish wealth is outrageously overrepresented,
and the left moved away as far as it could from attacking wealth and capital, and they now concentrate on color on skin color, on white supremacy, race, on gender, on identitarian, on trans.
And basically, it occurred to me that when we look at the history of the left, it is quite devastating to admit that what it has been doing all the way through is this deflecting the attention from the J. And this is why the labor party under Corbin,
for instance, in Britain, that was such a great promise, turned into a smelly rotten, sorry, I'm about to say something awful, smelly, rotten fart.
It evaporated into nothingness.
And when the picture became clear, we realized that this party is a Zionist apparatus, And by the way, according to the British press, in the next next months, Corbin is about to be expelled.
Corbin who was voted twice to lead the party with a huge uh with a huge majority, very big mandate, is about to expell by the contemporary the current Zionist leader.
Because he's they were having they were having anti-Semitic witch hunts, and is that why he's getting kicked out?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
But by the way, I don't uh I don't complain.
I think that he deserved it because you know, under his rule, under his rule, uh, if not thousands of people were expelled, suspended, and so on and so on.
He turned his back to his biggest supporters, biggest uh allies.
The guy is an exemplary in an exemplary manifestation of the left treasure nature.
It is never, you know, it's very easy to speak about equality.
We all want equality.
There is nothing we want more than equality, but equality means equality, equality means universalism, means that we are all brotherhood, and it really doesn't matter where what is your the color of your skin or where you come from, whether you are man or a woman, and so on and so on.
In the equality that the left presents now, and this is globally, you can see it in America, whites don't deserve um equal conditions, male are a problem.
Um Jewish wealth is not a problem.
I think that Corbin is a great example because he was supported by this movement by momentum.
He ended up endorsing a film that denounce criticism of Rothschild.
A Marxist leftist, I don't know if he is Marxist, a leftist that's supposed to be kind of traditional leftists, ended up denouncing criticism of one of the most corrupted bunkers in the history of banking.
Sounds like George Galloway said the same thing.
He's a Marxist.
Have you heard Galloway say that oh don't talk about the Rothschilds, that's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
Ah no, I I never I never I never I never heard the Galloway asking us not to talk about Rothschild.
But uh it won't surprise me.
I think that Galloway is uh the the difference uh between uh between Corbin and Galloway is probably something around 70, 80 IQ.
Corbin is basically on the verge of retarded, and Galloway is actually extremely intelligent, but I I follow Galloway, I think that he's a very uh very brilliant speaker, but I see so many times uh I've seen so many times I've seen him uh zigzagging uh around those uh issues,
and this is why this is why the right is winning.
There is something, there is something that is uh so disingenuous about uh about left, and it's very very sad because we need an opposition, we need dissent, and we are we we we basically have nothing.
Now we take it one step farther.
We are living in a world that is turning into an into an authoritarian realm, tyrannical, basically all the symptoms of dark age,
and for the first time in history, it's not the ruler, it's not that we have a bunch of kings who are oppressing us, it's not that we have uh uh and uh and there was a coup and uh and a military sect took over the universe,
the tyrannical regime in which we are living, is inflicted upon us by the people that just few years ago, even last week, claim to bring us peace, harmony, knowledge, and freedom.
This is what Google claimed to do.
This is what Facebook, if you I can read to you what Facebook writes about its uh kind of statement, you know, on Twitter, you know.
Um I saw it on I saw it the other day, you know, where the commitment for community and so on and so on.
This is beyond tragic, and when we try to figure out what is it that they try to defend, in most cases, it is Israel, the Jewish state, the Jewish lobby.
The Zionist agenda type of course, I don't say Zionism because it's the Jewish state, you know.
I prefer to use the J word because the Israel calls itself the Jewish state, it doesn't call itself the Zionist state.
But it's another the reasons I sometimes use Zionist agenda is because it's not really the the Jewish Agenda because not all Jews are for the Zionist agenda.
By Zionist agenda, I mean the conspiracy to dominate the world from Jerusalem according to their prophecies.
Now, I I I understand what is the what is the logic.
The only problem is the word Zionism, as long as we agree what Zionism is, and I don't have any any problem with your um with your definition, everything is fine.
The problem with Zionism, the one of the reasons that I uh refrain from using it is that from an Israeli perspective, maybe I covered it last time.
If I did, I asked your forgiveness and your listeners.
No, no, please please reiterate.
Yeah.
Yeah, is that uh Zionism is something that started in the late 19th century, early 20th century.
It was a promise to form to found uh a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and by doing so to amend what they regarded as Jewish diaspora morbidity.
OK?
In 1948, Israel was created.
The Zionist movement completed its objective.
So from an Israeli perspective, they don't think in Zionist terms.
They don't call themselves the Zionist state.
They call themselves the Jewish state.
From that moment in history, they started a long transition, and uh I maybe I spoke about it last time, that kind of matured into uh a real dialectic battle between 67 to 77,
between the 67 war to 77 when the Likud Party won the election, and in this 10 years, we see the final transition from Israeli state into a Jewish state, and Zionism is not at all a relevant term for for them.
I do understand that people prefer to say Zionism because when they say Zionism, they it doesn't look as if they um uh blame uh the entire uh entire jury for the crimes committed by Israel, and I don't have any problem with it.
I think that uh well when you want to talk about non-Jews, when you want to talk about Christian Zionists, you know, you they're included also in the into the Zionist agenda because they're helping them achieve their their prophecies.
I understand, yeah.
I understand uh I understand that, but uh, this is another thing that it is there, the the the all this discourse that is dealing with uh Christian Zionists is the there to divert the attention from the fact that and I always want to, and I I think that people should do it all the time.
Instead of saying Israel, always call it the Jewish state, because this is how it defines itself.
And uh we have to understand that uh they do it for a reason, and we cannot deny the fact that Israel or the Jewish state is supported spiritually, financially, morally, or immorally, by the vast majority, if not all Jewish institutions around the world.
And when it comes to the Jewish opponents, when it comes to the Jewish opponents to Israel, uh like JVP, let's say, they are not the existence of the Jewish state, they want just one the Jewish state to be slightly different.
Yeah, they're still Zionist in a way, that the Jewish voice for peace.
They're not Zionists, they're arch Zionists, they are the worst type of Zionist for me.
And and uh and this is very important.
I mentioned it uh uh in a talk a few days ago.
One of the when it comes to my book, The Wondering Good, that was that is still probably not not probably certainly, it is the best-selling book on Jewish identity politics.
My inspiration to redefine the Jewish question came from Heim Weizmann.
Heim Weizmann was a very um important early Zionist.
First president of Israel.
He was the first president of Israel, and he was the head of the Zionist uh movement after Herzl.
Of course, and he's the guy that actually responsible from the responsible for the Balfour declaration.
Right.
Together with the House of Rothschild at the time.
Alright, so he's very important guy, he's not known as a arch Zionist uh ideologist, or intellectually, was very pragmatic.
But is this insight that I'm going to share with you that is the gist of Heim Weizmann Zionism is very very important.
It's very important for my work, and I think that it is very important for anyone who tries to understand the Jewish symptom and how it is related to Zionism.
Heim Weizman said there are no here.
We are.
Oh, we are.
I brought it up right as you were about to quote it.
Amazing.
Ah great.
Okay.
So there are no English friends.
I think that somebody took it from me, uh, actually.
But this is the quote.
There are no for me quoting uh Heim Weizmann because I tell you something embarrassing.
When I tried to look for Heim Weizmann for this specific quote, I didn't find it.
This is but this is the gist of what he was trying to push.
Also said this exact same same sentiment.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So it's I don't think that it's very bad.
So I think that this is actually for me.
And I'm I apologize for the Weizman's family.
There are no English, French, German, or American Jews, but only Jews living in England, France, Germany, or America.
What he basically said here is that Jewishness is a prime quality.
What makes a Jew into a Zionist is the fact that before he's American, he is a Jew.
Now, why got into so much trouble?
Why I am chased mainly by Jewish leftists, because I argue that Jewish Jewish voice for peace fits perfectly with Heim Weizmann definition.
They are not peace enthusiasts who coincidentally happen to be of Jewish origin, which is not a problem at all.
They are Jews who support peace.
They are Jews who support Palestine.
The Jewish support of Palestine should reflect greatly on the Jews.
Alright.
And when I interviewed the, you can you are very quick on the computer, so you know you can get check out Giladatman Philip Weiss.
I interviewed the man, and uh he was either foolish or decent enough or genuine enough to admit to me in that interview that uh he's not doing it because he really cares for the Palestinian as an altruistic uh move
is doing it because it is good for the Jews.
Yeah.
He admitted it in the interview.
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of like the Torah Jews, how they say, oh, we're anti Zionist, but but still they really are for the Jewish state.
They just uh want to approach it strategically different and they want to wait for the Moshech to come and then leave them back first.
And I would suggest if you really want to look into the Torah Jews because for me, Palestine is not a problem, it's just a symptom.
Yeah, the Palestinians are the goem the Jew.
Yeah, they are the you know the current Amaleks or the Canaanites that they need to steal their lands.
If you if you are really interested in the Torah Jews, and uh it's funny because I would have loved to support them, and in a way I do support them, uh,
because uh it kind of suggests that you can interpret Judaism as uh crypto harmonious uh um the precept,
maybe, but when you see what Torah Jews are doing in a place like uh Monroe in Kariat Yoel, or Kiyah Joel, I don't know how you call it in America in upstate New York,
it is devastating, and it is not very different from what is happening in Palestine, it is very similar to what the Jewish uh settlers are doing in uh Palestine, and uh when in one of my visits in America,
I went to Monroe, upstate New York, and I started to interview people, and they were fuming, and these are the Torah Jews, so maybe they don't want to do it in Palestine, they do it in upstate New York, yeah.
Really, they consider anybody that uh doesn't go along with their agenda and treats them like the chosen ones, they're considered Amalek, whether it's Palestine or Germany or America or Russia, and it's the whole Esau Jacob story, yeah.
So so I I I think I think that uh Judaism is not the problem because the vast majority of Jews don't follow Judaism when it comes to Soros, I don't think that he is a religious Jew.
When it comes to Epstein or Maxwell, I don't think that they are uh Orthodox Jews, maybe they are.
I know that Delshowitz was raised as an Orthodox Jew.
Uh Winstein, I don't think that is an Orthodox Jew.
I don't think that he is a religious Jew at all.
I don't, I don't obviously I don't um know the intimate biography of uh these uh people, but they definitely don't walk around with uh Jewish uh Judaic identity uh symbolic identifiers like uh skull cup and so on and so on.
And the next question is why do we see this symptoms reoccurring in the Orthodox sect in the very secular,
in the Marxist, in the Jewish atheist collectives, why do we see all those symptoms?
And I really gave it a lot of thought, and I wrote a lot about it in the wandering who and in being in time, and I came to a conclusion that the Jewish god is don't laugh, is the Jew.
Yeah.
They worship themselves.
They worship themselves.
And this is why they basically invented a god who loves them more than anyone else.
If I come to you, you know, kind of we sit in a pub, and I tell you, listen, Adam, you know, I had a crazy dream last night.
And in the dream I invented a god, and this God loves me really.
He loved me, killed other people for me.
You would think that I'm a lunatic narcissist.
Alright.
I come to the pub a week later.
And you kind of not sure that you want to talk to me again, but you and I ended up kind of imposing myself on you as uh as you may expect, and you're kind of cynical about it.
Hey, how is your God doing?
And I thought, oh man, forget about it.
I killed him.
I'm now an atheist.
Of course, you can kill your God.
If I invent my God to love me, I can dump this God and become a Marxist and become an atheist, an identitarian.
It's almost like some secular Jews say that they don't believe in God, but that God gave them the promised land, and that's why they deserve to have Israel.
Of course, once you understand this issue, you can start to move on and to play a huge versatile games with an incredible numbers of kind of uh unexpected uh diversions.
You can decide tomorrow that actually Palestine is not your promised land, America, Nevada is New York is a few years ago.
We had Olim Le Berlin.
Have you heard about it?
Olimle Berlin.
No.
Ascending, ascending to Berlin.
Olim Aliyah is immigrating to Israel, Jewish immigration to Israel, and Aliyah means ascendance.
Yeah, you go up, Yerida is descent, Y die is when you leave Israel, it is called Yerida.
You are moving downward.
Aliyah is upgrade, ascending.
So they say ascending, Olim Le Berlin, ascending to Berlin.
They decided out of the blue that Berlin is the new Zion.
And if you go now to Berlin, you find a lot of Israelis there.
Good for them.
I don't know.
It's like I don't know.
You know, I it's none of my none of my problem, but they can change their narrative as they like, because they cannot distinguish between themselves and their God.
They are their own God.
That's an interesting way to describe secular Jews.
I've also heard uh Dennis Prager describe secular Jews as um secular messianism, like they still kind of have the genetic memory and the stories embedded in their culture and their psyche, where they want to create a better world and have uh a Jewish utopia, and they do that with the isms like communism, Zionism, all that types of stuff.
Of course.
And this is this is the so common.
This is so common because you ask yourself, maybe um some of your uh viewers love William Reich, maybe you like William Reich, and a lot of people uh like Wilhelm Reich because uh because of his uh uh late work on Oregon and energy and so on and so on.
But when you read early Wilhelm Reich, when he was still a kind of a protege in Freud's institute in Vienna, you realize that this lunatic narcissist woke up in the morning and decided to cancel the patriarchal family.
Now, this is an unusual thing for a 23 years old boy to think that the family is a wrong thing.
To wake up in the morning and to say, I don't like the church, and we destroy the church.
To wake up in the morning in America being surrounded by white people, and to invent this notion of white privilege, while the only really true embodiment or materialization of privilege is actually Jewish privilege.
How do I know that Jewish privilege is the most significant political tool because Jewishness is the one thing that you cannot talk about it?
I've never seen a white person manage to delete a YouTube clip or YouTube video that criticize white people.
Try to say the same thing about Jews.
You are your your your channel is gone.
This is exactly what privilege is all about.
Sorry, I'm shouting.
I can see the red, you know, I'm an engineer myself, so I say I see myself kind of hitting your red, put a limiter or compressing.
Yeah, it limits before it gets too high, you're fine.
All right.
You know, um I'm sorry, continue.
No, no, no, this is a I think that, and I'm sure that we discussed it before.
Everything you want to know about Jewish politics, Jewish fearfulness, anti-Semitism, racism, the notion that must be central for your research, is projection.
Everything they blame other others is something that they don't feel very comfortable in or within themselves.
Now, this is not a Giladatzman insight, this is actually an insight that I borrowed from I think one of the greatest thinkers of the 20th century, Otto Weininger, who actually killed himself when he was 21 or 22,
genius thinker, very controversial, and he argued that when we hate something in other people, it is always something that we don't approve in ourselves, but we are not strong enough to admit.
He said this is why homophobes are more than likely latent, almost latent homosexual.
He said, This is why anti-Semites are very Jewish, and he went into he looked into it, and he argued,
for instance, that Wagner, whom he actually liked a lot, who is supposed to be a big German anti-Semite at the time, was actually very Jewish in his aesthetics, you know, his compositions were very pompous.
Now you can see that many of the people who are actually critical of many aspects of Jewishness are themselves of Jewish origin or have this kind of a Jewish inclination in their personality.
And by the way, when I read Otto Weiniger around 2005 2006 it changed me completely because I realized that rather than talking about the Jews for many years my study was driven by analysis
I try to understand what is it about the Jew in me, which I don't feel comfortable with.
You know, this is when I became what you might say.
I don't mind.
You know, I saw myself as a proud, self-hating Jew.
Yeah.
I saw Dershowitz named you when he was talking about Bernie Sanders in an interview.
He said, oh, he's not as bad as Galat Otsman.
Have you seen that one?
Does Dershowitz attack you a lot?
Yeah.
Now, the question is, why is it that I don't like myself or don't like aspects in myself that are so disturbing or is so disturbing for so many Jews or a few Jews, a few vocal Jews?
And the reason is that those things that I point at in me or too obvious are very troubling for those Jews who oppose me.
They're just not brave enough to admit it to themselves, to admit it in public.
And it is much easier to try to silence me, to cancel one gig or another, to close your YouTube channel for pointing at the video that everyone should see and so on and so on.
So, I wanted to get into this latest censorship because your famous quote here, Jewish power is the power to silence opposition to Jewish power.
You just get, you can't see a better illustration than what just happened here with Facebook banning conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world and how they're implementing this international Holocaust remembrance alliance definition.
I wanted to go through some of these clauses and the definition and get your thoughts on them.
But first question is, do you think that there is, that Jews do control the world and that there is a agenda or a conspiracy to dominate the world?
So, as I said before, there are no Jewish conspiracies.
This is in front of your eyes.
The second richest person in America is telling you that you cannot talk about his power.
As if this guy, I should send him some money, but I know that it would mean much to him, you know.
But, you know, he's kind of working hard to reaffirm that my definition is spot on, 100% accurate.
The second richest person in America, maybe one or third, I don't remember exactly, but he's telling us that at the moment engaged in silencing different discourses like Corona theory dissenters, critics of Zionist power or Jewish state, human rights supporters,
supporters uh of uh um palestine and so on and so on is telling us that we won't be able to say those things on his platform this is not a conspiracy This falls into the category of chutzpah and Jewish power.
And again, chutpa is an Yiddish word.
For a reason.
Well, I said last time I think you've got more chutzpah, maybe than uh than any Jews out there for the courage to speak out against uh the chosen ones.
By the way, yeah, by the way, this is exactly this is exactly um the reason I was raised in Israel before it became the Jewish state, and I was trained to speak my mind, to scroll a spade, a spade.
Israeli is a militant culture, and this is how you raise the Israeli elite.
You want commanders, you want military people to speak their minds, to be critical of the system, to make sure the system is operating, Israeli is highly efficient on many different levels because of that.
Alright?
I'm talking now like an ultra Zionist, but this is something that we can deny, and it won't get us very far.
In Israel, the integration of the political system with the military, with academia and technology is close to perfect.
Maybe China is similar.
Alright?
It is for a reason.
Because it's a meritocracy.
If you are clever, you are pushed up, and this is how they operate.
And by the way, when you look at America, it's the opposite.
If you are too clever, they silence you.
You are left just with the most boring people on this planet, people like Chomsky and Co.
Chomsky is boring.
Boring, like for me, it's like the most boring person on the planet.
And he's weak too.
He's he's I mean he I I read recently that Chomsky actually used to be a big Israel supporter.
Is that true?
I die that's that's what that's what I hear.
I think that he admits it.
He admits it.
Now, sorry, but you ask me, ask me a question.
So Jewish powers, that there is there is such a thing.
I think that there is uh there is a very very powerful Jewish elite, and uh you don't need me to say to to tell you, um you are subject to their uh powerfulness, um and they are very good in silencing every discourse that doesn't fit with their agenda, and I will tell you something else that people don't want to say.
I have a feeling that uh the fact that Facebook and Twitter and Google are so afraid of corona dissenters is not because of the ooh,
and not because of Bill Gates, it is because there is a concern that this will somehow also lead eventually to Israel Jewish states and so on and so on, or American Jewish collaboration.
Okay, so we see exactly the same measures.
Why corona?
Why what is this kind of ludicrous care for a disease that will attack eventually 0.004 of the population?
What is going on?
The problem is that there are some things that we have to address to do with this uh disease, and they are very concerning, and one of them is the fact that Iran was amongst the first countries to be hit, and in Iran, it was the government where we saw the first victims.
How did it make it to the government?
Do they kind of a the minister of education uh goes from Tehran to Yuan to buy fish for uh dinner?
I don't think so.
Yeah, I don't I don't know.
It's it seemed to be in a lot of countries, but I I have heard that that theory.
So I want to ask when you say that that um there's no conspiracies, that they're just overt and the conspiracy is out in the open, like what's an example that you can uh give for that, like what what's in the Torah according to their prophecy?
What do you mean you know I can show on your screen?
I see Facebook, Instagram to ban conspiracy theories.
This is in your fine in your face number two richest Jew in America, a richest person in America, is telling you that you cannot actually talk about his power.
And and you know who actually pressured him to do this?
It wasn't Jonathan Greenblatt at the ADL who have been running a boycott against them.
Exactly, and the Facebook is subject to pressure John Greenblatt and the ADL run this boycott campaign in the open when they attack when they attack black voices,
whether it is Farrakhan or Ice Cube, or uh Tony Martin, Professor Tony Martin, or here in England uh this uh rapper Wiley, you know, and they say black lives matter, maybe if they keep quiet.
This is what they're practically telling us.
They don't do it behind the scene, they do it in the open.
They do everything in the open, they use a different system.
The system is simple, they do it in the open, but you cannot talk about it.
Yeah, they can talk about it, they can brag, but we can't even show headlines and show stuff, they'll uh freak out.
Exactly.
Um, this is this is the this is the this is the system, this is how it works, and uh it's a different system, it's an unusual system, and this is why we we are not very uh good in understanding it.
Uh when I started to write about it, people told me, man, Gilad, what are you talking about?
You know, now everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
Yeah, I like sometimes I'll be attacked and they'll call me an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist, and I always say, I'm not even talking about a conspiracy.
I'm not even speculating.
I'm just it's uh it's all out in the open.
All I gotta do is is read from the Talmud or read from their their holy texts.
But but what I was saying is that it's not just the ADL in Greenblatt, it's not just uh Mort Klein and the Zionist Organization of America.
That Facebook says that the reason that they implemented this new definition where you can't talk about Jews controlling the world was because pressure from Ronald Lauder and the World Jewish Congress.
So all these rich billionaire powerful Jews wield their influence publicly, apply the pre the public pressure on Zuckerberg, who is also Jewish and had a bar mitzvah.
It's like how do they not see that this is gonna wake everybody up to you know your your famous quote that we can't talk about Jewish power?
And then they go on to say that it's white supremacy that runs everything.
Where are all the white billionaires at the white organizations that are shutting down people talk about the myth of of white privilege and and white supremacy?
Exactly, exactly.
So I think that a lot of people understand it.
Um they manage to alienate more and more and more sectors.
When you look at it, there is now a clear battle between the black community and the Jewish community.
They have been waging a war against Farrakhan.
A minister.
A black hero.
And they got away with it.
But now more and more black people say, oh my God, Farrakhan was right.
And of course he was right.
He was right all along.
He was right all along in identifying the fact that Jews were part of the slave trade.
And some people, some researchers say they were more than just a part.
And by the way, where is the problem with it?
Where is the problem?
I've never seen an Italian.
And maybe you have Italian ancestors.
I've never seen an Italian.
Alright.
I've never seen an Italian.
Okay, then I could ask you if you feel guilty, you know, for killing Christ.
I never seen an Italian saying, oh my God, I'm so sorry, my Roman ancestor.
No.
But when a Jew here, you know, association between Jews, you know, what is it?
You tell me now that my great grandfather was a slave trader.
I say, oh, I'm I'm really sorry.
You know, and I tell you this, I tell you something, you know, I'm family, you know, it is something that has been discussed.
Family-wise, I'm connected to quite a few awful people.
Quite a few awful people, you know.
Uh, you know, you must have some good Thanksgiving dinners then, huh?
Some good arguments.
No, no, but you know, I I don't feel responsible for their actions.
You should be responsible for my actions.
You know, and this is why I don't understand kind of I don't really understand how white people accept in America, and I think that many of them don't.
They understand that it's wrong.
You know, I don't if I were a white American, I wouldn't feel guilty for my great great grandfather.
Uh right.
No white guilt, no white guilt should be the mantra.
I don't feel guilty.
I don't feel guilty for my grandfather being uh commander in the in the goon.
Oh, you know, I just felt responsibility to do things differently myself, and this is what I'm doing.
He would probably turn in his grave 25,000 times a day.
Six million times, but it's fine.
All right.
So let's get into this definition a little bit.
I want to get some of your thoughts on this.
You've seen this, right?
This is the international holocaust remembrance alliance definition that they're trying to um uh enforce on the whole world.
Many states in America have adopted it.
Um it's in Trump's executive order.
This is the definition that Facebook just adopted, it's in bills for Europe.
They're they're trying to enforce this everywhere.
So what do you think about this?
Um let me let me tell you something.
Um I didn't see it for uh for uh for a while, but obviously I I looked at it and I learned it at the time, and uh the definition itself.
Can you go a bit up for a second?
Um the definition itself is not too uh blah blah blah.
This is the this is the top.
Not the very top, this is the very top.
No, no, okay, so down a bit.
And the department just second, just second, that's what we're gonna do.
Well, what are you looking for?
Which part?
Uh the anti-Semitism is okay.
This is if you can read it, yeah.
This if you can read this.
Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred towards Jews, maybe rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property toward Jewish community, institutions, and religious facilities.
Like that sounds sensible.
It's it's the other definition exactly.
This is why this is why why I wanted you to read it.
For me, it's a it's a bit small, you know.
And maybe I can make it bigger, I don't know how to do it.
Yeah, I could actually.
I'm so stupid.
Okay, this definition is not too problematic for...
By the way, you don't really need a definition that is particular to Jews.
You can just say that uh hating X for being X is what hatred is all about, and we would like to live in a society that uh and try to prevent such occurrences.
That's it.
They they get their special definition and their special rule for uh protection, but everybody else it should be equal rule, equal definition for everybody.
Exactly.
So the absurd with this definition, and this is something very funny.
The absurd with this definition is that this definition already singles out the Jews that this definition is doing the one thing that the definition tries to prevent.
Okay, and as such, the definition itself falls into the within the boundaries of that that should be done that shouldn't be done according to definition.
This definition single out Jews.
Yeah, yeah, it's certain perception of Jews.
This is a certain perception of Jews.
However, as you said, there is no big problem with this segment of the definition.
The problem starts with the examples, yeah.
And the examples are telling a different stories.
Calling for aiding or justifying the killing or arming Jews in the name of radical ideology or an existent view of religion, this is not uh this is not a problem.
No, we don't want anyone to call or to kill or to use any kind of uh uh violence.
Maybe you read it and I will uh Yeah, well, I I wanted to point out uh another thing here that um well, actually, we'll just continue here.
Stereotypical allegations about Jews, such as power of Jews as a collective, so you're not allowed to uh do Jews not have are they not like an ethnocentric strong cohesive tribal group?
Like they're they're known for that, they brag about that, they boast of it, and now we're not allowed to say that anymore.
Of course.
Now, this we have to thank them for telling us that they are basically not like everyone else.
So you can talk about uh Freemasons, and you can talk about wasp, you can talk about white privilege, but you cannot talk about the most powerful or one of the most powerful ethnic groups in America, Britain, France, and so on and so on.
So the definition in itself is actually uh telling us two things.
First, they want to be beyond criticism, which is actually consistent with the idea of being chosen.
What does it mean to be chosen if you are not uh doing better than anyone else?
Yeah, granted special privileges, yeah, privilege to be that they want to privilege and they want big time privilege, but way more interesting is the fact that, and this deserves a program.
I think you have to look into it.
The fact that so many institutions and politicians and governments accept this non universalist definition and what it means,
it means that in the world in which we are living, politics and so-called democracy has become a ridiculous facade.
You know, it is it is a joke, and they are just operating to appease people who are way, way, way more powerful from them than them.
And for many years we used to think that uh it is the cooperates.
I myself wrote about it.
You know, I wrote about the fact that the politicians uh we are we are all reduced into consumers, and the politicians are there to sustain consumption, but they don't even sustain consumption.
Look what happened now in COVID.
This uh we are all in lockdown, so we don't even care about consumption.
What the only thing that we care about is oh man, many more examples.
Uh they added many many more examples.
Where is this uh documentary?
This is at state.gov, and it's this is the definition that they're trying to push everywhere.
It's in the Florida bill, it's in Trump's executive order, it's in the European uh anti-Semitism bill, the the anti-Semitism czar is pushing this everywhere.
Like, and think about this.
Nothing's gonna cause more.
I tell you why.
The last time that I saw this definition, there were four examples.
Yeah, now I can see that uh I cannot move the page, but now it's like look like 20 or 15.
It's it's basically everything that they're doing, they're making they're prohibiting us from talking about anymore.
Here's the one that gets me really angry.
I want to ask you about accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide than to the interest of their own nations.
Why are you upset by it?
Because not only is it angering enough that there's Jews in America that have more loyalty to a foreign country because of their religion and and their their race, but then they're gonna pass laws that we can't talk about their loyalty to another country, which there's no doubt about it.
Many of them openly say it.
Herzl did it, Heim Weitzmann said it, all the founders of Zionism, and for them to be so dishonest and deceptive when talking about the causes for anti-Semitism, it just it's just like a vicious circle, it just creates more animosity, more hostility.
You know, I think I go, I it's I ask you because it is ridiculous, of course, but I think that they should leave uh some open space for us to write the things that annoy us about Israel and Jewish power, and the list will grow endlessly, and it's such a great thing.
I think that this list, like the Facebook action, like the ADL repeated uh actions, like the Southern Poverty Law Center in England, CAA, CST, the Board of Deputies by doing all of that,
they are exposing themselves, and they're doing better job than you will ever do in exposing them.
Yeah, and it's to the point to the point that all their big dissenters now can retire.
Vindicated, they they prove me wrong every day.
They're proving my point for me.
Of course, of course.
Of course, so I I tell you, I'm kind of I'm following the story kind of uh on a daily basis, the last time obviously I don't read, I thought that I know everything about this definition, and uh the last time I saw it, there were four examples.
This basically what I see here is like every possible criticism, uh, that uh somebody may raise about their politics, their uh identity, their culture, and so on and so on, which support the fact that they are somehow different.
People who claim to be like everyone else, the Zadist motto was we are people like ever all other people.
This is this was Erzell's main agenda to show that the people, the Jews are people like all other people, these are not people like all other people.
Show me what the Italians uh don't uh uh want us.
Yeah, there's no other group that has anything remotely close to this.
Sorry, sorry.
No other group has anything remotely like this, and and they take pride, their the Jewish identity is to be separate, to not intermarry, to be different and chosen and keep to keep the the chosen bloodline pure.
This is like their what they hold in high esteem.
No other group in the world has definition of Hreads for itself, no other group in the world managed to get governments to sign to such a ridiculous document, yeah.
They actually, with this definition, have shoot themselves in the foot.
And this is the stories written in the the old testament that they follow where uh a powerful influential Jew influences the Gentile leader, like there's Daniel, there's Esther, there's uh Joshua, and then they do it for the benefit of their own people.
There is something there is something that uh I must share with you, and maybe maybe it won't mean a lot to you uh, but kind of do both of us a favor and uh consider it,
and I'm not the first one to say it, and uh there is actually an Israeli filmmaker who um produced quite an interesting documentary about it.
Unfortunately, it's in Hebrew, but when you look at the history of the Jews, in most cases, it is the Jews who actually bring disasters on themselves, on themselves, yeah.
This is the story of the Bible, and this is why the prophets, the Hebrew prophets are integrated into the Bible.
What are the what is the role of the Hebrew prophets?
The Hebrew prophets are there, they're standing on a table in the middle of the market, and they tell the Jews, look at themselves, whoa, look what are you doing, blah blah blah blah blah.
Mark Ellis, who is supposed to be the biggest scholar, Jewish scholar on this uh subject, wrote a few years ago a book about the Hebrew prophet, prophets, and he dedicated the last chapter to me, though that I'm the last Hebrew prophet.
It's quite a funny funny uh concept.
And uh we we were in touch after that, and I told him I'm I'm really not.
I I don't try to fix anyone.
I'm not talking in their public place in the market.
I'm talking to whoever wants to hear, you know, and I'm kind of more of a whistleblower, let's say.
And he was quite upset, I believe, by my answer, and I try to understand why.
And then it occurred to me that the Hebrew prophet is the descent that integrated into the internal discourse.
And when this happens, the battle remains an internal battle.
So it's a battle between the Zionists and the Jewish anti-Zionist, between the capitalists and the Marxists, between the neocons and the Chomskis.
Alright?
And this is the ideal situation.
And when this happens, what usually uh what we see usually is that the Americans, the Brits, they move away.
They say we don't want to get into this battle, because if you say something, they will start to call us anti-Semites.
So if you're not Adam Green, you say, alright, I'll just watch it, I'll watch Adam Green rather than going and shouting uh what I really think about it.
The outcome is that in many cases, a lot of topics, central topics in America, for instance, are becoming an internal Jewish debate.
Look at your presidency debate.
All the Jewish papers telling you that Kamala Aris is actually Mamal Ari.
This is how they call her.
You can find it forward.
This is their Jewish name.
Yeah.
So it's basically a Mamele Aris versus Kushner.
When it comes to uh left versus right, we have Brightbart Breitbart versus which was kind of uh formed was formed in Tel Aviv in Jerusalem with Netanyahu.
Breitbart with Netanyahu.
Andrew Bright big article about it, and Andrew Brought, yeah.
We can talk about Andrew Bradbright, it's a very very interesting character.
I learned actually a lot from him.
But obviously, it was a camouflage operation.
Um it becomes the identitarians, anti-identitarians, Jewish debate.
What is happening when you look at Jewish history, it is the internal war that become very vicious.
Why they have internal war?
Because in Jewish culture, they encourage you to be opinionated, to be revolutionary, to speak your mind, to be um discursive,
and it starts as a debate, it evolves into a conflict, they start to throw stones, and eventually they shoot each other.
And this is exactly where we are getting now in in Jerusalem.
You know that every night in Tel Aviv in Jerusalem they have huge demonstrations.
I don't know if you follow this story, but they are really upset.
A lot of people are upset with Netanyahu upset by his uh corruption and so on and so on.
Uh a lot of other people do support Netanyahu, and there is a clash.
They don't like how close he is with the Zionist extremists and Hobad Lubovich and the ultra-orthodox.
There are a lot of a lot of a lot of uh things, but but I'm not I'm not very impressed by by the by the debate.
What is more interesting for me, that it is a cultural pattern.
When Corbin had a problem here, he took his Jewish uh you know uh defense league, you know, the people, the Jews who were around him, and they were fighting with the Zionists.
So when you look at BBC, you would see some Zionists said, Oh, he's not the same.
See, might and then you see the Corbin Jewish allies who say, Oh, I'm a Jew and Corbin is okay.
You know that this is what it is reduced into internal Jewish wars, and these wars are the wars that usually in history until now bring their power down.
The problem is that it is a snowball, and why I say that it is snowball.
I grew up in Israel.
I was born in 63.
So this 18 years after the liberation of Auschwitz, the Holocaust wasn't a big thing in Israel in my childhood.
In fact, most Israelis were slightly embarrassed by it.
It started to become a big thing.
In my early upbringing, the Holocaust was something that, and it's not Giladatzman.
This is the way we grew up.
The Holocaust was something that we failed, we felt shame about.
How is it possible that everyone can hate us so much?
And it's not that the German, it's a German and the French and the Polish and the you know.
And he said, No, no, we we we must change it.
We must become great people.
I'm 57 years old.
I could see the transformation.
What we are doing, what we are seeing now, is by far more drastic than what a few Frankfurt schoolers did to the Weimar Republic.
It's on a global scale.
You just reminded me of something.
I'm just reading uh Yahweh to Zion by uh Lorenz, I'm gonna butcher his last name, Gouye, I think he's French, and he talks about how you mentioned a second ago how um it's divine punishment, even when the the Jews are persecuted throughout history, they consider that God punishing them for their transgressions.
There's always been since even the the old testament, there's always been a battle between the the zealots and the the religious fanatics versus the assimilationists and the people that want to intermingle with the uh you know their foreign neighbors, but this idea that even when the when you think that the Jews have been punished,
they actually say, Oh, that's God punishing us, that's the divine punishment, and that God, even when something appears evil, it's actually for a good reason, and then the rabbis can justify doing evil by ends justify the means that they can do evil to bring about good,
and that even when they're persecuted, it's the answer is to be more religious because we were punished by God, it's not the power of the Gentile nations or their actions or their behavior, it's the answer is we need to be more religious, we need to follow the 613 uh commandments.
Yeah.
Which is a very interesting because when you look at the reaction in the Jewish world to the Holocaust, those orthodox Jews who in Poland and so on time in Belgians and so you know,
some communities, they suffered a lot, and it didn't interfere with their belief.
They saw it as something that was determined or predetermined by a power that they cannot understand, but they still believe in the secular Jews reacted very differently.
The first reaction was complete disbelief.
You know, if their uh if their if the religious uh Devotion was shaky, it basically disappeared.
Alright, so quite a few Jews stopped being Jews.
Many others became Zionists.
I have a family member who wrote an incredible book about uh historian uh story uh during the war, and it was in Auschwitz as far as I can remember.
Um and the book never came out in Hebrew, it came out in French, but I actually read it uh in Hebrew, I read the manuscript.
I think that he wrote it in French.
I I just read a translation, it never it was never published.
And I think that it was never it was never kind of published uh by a by a publisher in Israel.
Uh and he said something amazing that he started as uh the war as a kind of somehow semi-religion.
He obviously stopped believing in God, but he wasn't Zionist at all.
And in the end of the war, um there was uh they were already under uh they were already liberated by they were still in a camp in Germany, and he said the POW were not released yet.
If I remember it uh properly, I hope that I don't make a mistake.
Uh it was kind of uh a ceremony uh uh that followed the the death of Roosevelt, the Russians, the French, the Belge, the Polish soldiers, POW, they all stood up together, and the Jews were scattered all around.
And he said that this was the moment that he realized that he wanted he wanted also to to be kind of belong he wanted to belong to something, you know.
So the Holocaust led to kind of uh this kind of uh understanding of Jews that they need maybe a state uh of their own, uh so some people who kind of uh saw this is uh as a resolution of their plight and so on and so on.
Um but definitely definitely rabbinical Jews do not have I mean Orthodox Jews, they do not have Holocaust Museum, they do not have Holocaust Day, they know that an event happened, but they are determinists in their approach, and this really leads us into a very deep topic.
As you may know, I don't know if you read the The Wondering Who, but quite a lot of people write about it.
Jews didn't write history for something like 1700 years in between Josephus Plavius and uh Graz, which is I think 17 or 18th century.
Why they didn't write history, Jews, Orthodox Jews don't write history because the Bible is giving them the answers to all those reoccurring events.
You mentioned Amalek, alright?
So Amalek was an Amalek and Pharaoh was an Amalek and Hitler is an Amalek and Stalin is an Amalek and Adam Green is an Amalek and Giladazmon is an Amalek Stein.
Yeah, and in to a certain extent, to a certain extent, this also may explain why they cannot liberate themselves from their own faith.
It's the Talmudic rabbis And the ultra-Orthodox don't want Jewish populations In Gentile countries to be emancipated They want them under their control Fearful, and they want them following, they want them not mixing with because they if they think that Jews are are liberated, they will Judaism will disappear.
And that's why the Rabbi actually celebrated the Holocaust.
He said it was a good thing because it it punished, he said Jews were Ovaria Yosef, the chief Sephardic rabbi said that the the six million souls that that's that were you know ritually sacrificed in the in the ovens that they were reincarnated to atone for their sin.
So they see this as a good thing that led to the creation, the return, the redemption to Israel.
Of course, of course, and this is uh this is exactly what this uh stories is all about, and uh by the way, um it's not just um Jews, uh a Muslim preacher uh saying after 9-11 uh without supporting the event,
he said after 9-11, every Muslim had to make a decision to see where he locates himself in relation to the religion to the meaning of it and so on and so on.
Um I argue in the wandering ooh that for Jewish identity to survive, and this definitely applies to Jewish secular identity, or less for uh rabbinical orthodox,
a negation must be sustained, and the reason is if I ask you what you are, you'll tell me I'm I don't know, I'm American, I'm Californian, I don't I don't know enough about you uh you ask me, I'll tell you I'm a I'm I don't know, I'm a musician and a writer and so on and so on.
When you ask self-identified Jews, obviously musicians can be writers, is Jews can be identified as many things that are not related to Jewishness, Judaism to the J at all.
But if you ask a self-ident American self-identified Jew, what are you?
I'm American, but I'm also a Jewish Jewish American, Jewish American, yeah.
You asked him, you know, uh, are you religious?
He said, No, I'm not religious, but I uh you know, but I believe in Israel, you know, there is always they are always in between the defined, but what they are not, yeah.
They are defined by what they're not, and uh great uh uh linguist uh Susir wrote about it.
The things in language, yeah, you know, uh this uh air condition, uh I don't know um remote control is defined but not being a table, not being a glass, not being uh uh a laptop.
When things are defined by negation, which is not a problem, negation must be sustained, and this is why we also always have a special definition of anti-Semitism, a special definition of existence, and this is what chosenness is all about.
Right, yeah, they're the they're chosen to be different, they're non-Jews.
That's the the negation you're talking about.
Here's another clause in the definition.
It's accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoings committed by a single Jewish person or group or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
So do you understand how they like to have it both ways?
They say any criticism of Israel or Zionism or the Zionist state, that's anti-Semitic because it's anti-Jewish, because it's the Jewish state, but if then a Jewish person does something bad, you can't or it real, even if somebody does something real, and you talk about it, it's anti-Semitic.
And they they have it both ways.
This was the origin, this was uh the in the original uh uh definition.
This was one of the exam examples, and the examples are totally absurd, they were absurd, and the absurd is just growing.
It's unit's unbelievable.
Um Okay, but here the issue is accusing Jews as people of being possible for real.
Let's say for real event.
So a real event, for instance, is the knockbind Palestine that was committed, or let's say, let's say something that is more uh recent.
Um war crimes in Gaza, yeah, deploying snipers.
Now the problem is that uh I'm pretty sure that an American Jew may have nothing to do with it, yeah.
But American Jew, you know, we are talking now, we are disgusted by um Epstein Maxwell, Wexner, Barak, Deshovist, they're all implicated in this awful story, but there are five people, maybe it's going to and twenty another 20 people, maybe it is linked to the to um um um to the Mossad.
We we we are we we really want to know, and I hope that we will know one day, but still a lot of Jews you think have nothing to do with it.
The problem is the problem is, and this is a big dilemma, is that I see JPP, for instance, talking all the time as Jews about Palestine.
I never saw JVP shouting, stop harassing Farrakhan.
Let these black people say whatever they want to say if we really feel for them, JVP don't do it.
JVP are yet or Mondo wise, are yet to stand up and to say, listen, we are really embarrassed by this Epstein Weinstein uh Maxwell and so on and so on.
What we hear them saying instead is we as Jews are uh supporting the trip, but you know, they basically try to portray an image of good Jews, they're basically telling telling you not all Jews are bad.
Now, by saying not all Jews are bad, they actually admit that they themselves think that all Jews are bad.
Otherwise, why don't they have to say that not all Jews are bad?
All right, they all they fall into this logical traps all the time.
What I would have loved to see, and I saw it only once.
Um and it was the guy from a curb uh curb your enthusiasm, uh Larry David.
Like if you remember Larry David stood on Saturday night live, and he said, I like it when Jews find uh vaccines for polio.
I'm probably a lot of people now upset because you know I'm I'm not kind of in support of vaccine or anything, don't go there, you know.
I'm I'm this is what Larry David said.
I'm very happy when Jews come, I don't know, with a genius uh theory in physics with uh genius uh medicine.
I'm very embarrassed because all those kind of uh me too stories, Weinstein, Epstein, Schmeinstein, they're all Jews.
This is what I want to see.
I want to see Jews.
Don't tell me that some Jews are nice, because I don't really care.
I want to see a Jew standing up and saying, I'm really embarrassed, I'm really embarrassed.
I'm really embarrassed by what Israel is doing.
I'm really embarrassed by what we are doing to black people open their mouths.
I'm really embarrassed by Zuckerberg Closing freedom of speech.
I'm really embarrassed by the same people doing it in Google and Twitter and YouTube.
I'm pretty embarrassed by ADL, by Southern poverty, and they don't.
They need to condemn it.
We don't need.
Yeah.
It kind of, you know, you mentioned JVP and also like Code Pink, you know, these supposed uh anti Zionist uh pro-Palestine movements, but a lot of time they kind of shift the blame away from Judaism and Jewish power and blame America and white supremacy.
Of course.
Of course.
This is this is this is why I I I find them, I find it way more disgusting than Bibi Netanyahu or even a Jewish settler.
About Luigi, Israeli sniper in because Bibi Netanyahu believes in what he's doing.
He says what he believes in.
And by the way, you know, in the Israeli Knesset, the third biggest party is the Arabic party.
In JVP, you don't have uh Arabs in their board of executives.
Alright.
They are few Jewish, they are like a radical Jewish nationalist racist organization.
Here we have uh in Britain we have LJV.
You know, I don't I didn't see their website, but they say if you are not a Jew, you can support us um as a non-member, but you cannot be accepted.
This is the law Corbin supporters.
It's for Jews only.
Will Corbin take a support of a group that called itself white only?
You can only join us if you are white, if you are you can only join us if you are Aryan.
Shameless Corbin allowed them, these crude racists to be kind of uh body shield, political body shield.
Anyway, so for me, the Jewish descent, Jewish institutional descent is more problematic than Zionism.
Now I'm not against people who are dissenters acting uh you know um expressing a universal voice, and they happen to be Jews.
This is not a problem, but when they operate as Jews for Jews believe Jews that Jews that I'm very suspicious, and uh usually the reason is to operate as a body shield for Zionism to deflect to divert the attention they control the debate in the paradigm.
You know, that they always tell white people this this is in the and I think more Jews need to follow their own advice.
They say white people, it's not enough to just be to not be racist, you have to be an anti-racist.
So Jews out there that are just kind of staying quiet and laying low and not speaking out about the atrocities that Israel does or the supremacy that's inherent in in Judaism, and in Zionism just comes, it's a manifestation directly from Judaism.
There would be no Zionism without Judaism.
And these definitions that they have literally say that you you can't criticize their their religion no matter what.
You can't say denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination by claiming that the existence of the state of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Imagine the people that call everybody else racist is gonna say we can't call them racist.
The supremacist tribal segregation.
By the way, by the way, but by the way, this is something that must be clear.
And Hannah Armand uh pointed it already in the 60s.
Uh in a book, the Aichman in Jerusalem, she said that the Israeli uh law is very similar.
Some aspects of it are very similar to Nirvenberg laws.
You know, it is it is a Jewish state, and now it is Jewish state by law.
It wasn't even then.
Then she was uh referring to the law of return that uh differentiated between uh Jews and the indigenous people of the land on a racial ground.
Now it is a proper Jewish state.
It is a racist state, and you are not a line.
Now you take this, you take my definition.
I won.
I won.
Jewish power is the power to silence criticism of Jewish power.
And they're doing it.
more and more.
It's just going to get more chutzpah and more in our face.
Yes.
Yes, and we should be very thankful.
Now the most amazing thing, and I'll have to go soon.
Yeah.
The most amazing thing in that regard is, and this is the dilemma that I'm kind of contradicting myself.
The most amazing thing is that there is not really one Jewish person or one Jewish person, you know, a voice.
I mean, Jewish person who uh uh is uh brave enough to stand up as a Jew, a rabi, or uh Jewish uh um activist, and say we are on a very dangerous path.
We are actually falling here to the ends of our most arsh critics, yeah.
Over overplaying their hand, it's gonna it's gonna could result in disaster as it has in the past.
Now there is a reason, there is a reason why it doesn't happen.
One of the reasons, and as you know, I was taken to court for saying it.
One of the reasons that it cannot happen, is because all those organizations, the ADL, the CAA, the CST, the Southern Poverty Law Center,
uh the Creef, the BOD, they are basically earning money from donation that they receive from the community.
The more trouble they cause, the more appreciated they are within those segments who are willing to pay.
And this uh gets into a very complicated uh situation.
If the ADL would stand up now, say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I uh we think that uh we pushed it too far, blah blah blah.
And um, I think, you know, and not that I have any uh respect to this guy, I thought he was awful man, Abe Foxman, Abel Foxman.
He from time to time used to criticize Israel.
Do you remember it?
No, I don't when Israel uh yeah, yeah, from time to time.
Uh I think that even the law of return, he would come and say, listen, this is uh kind of could be interpreted as racist, blah blah blah.
They tried to convey an image of ethical thinking, objectivity, but this is all gone, huh?
They tried to pretend like they were objective.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's obvious, it's obviously uh kind of uh facade, not genuine.
Yeah, but even that, even that is gone now.
Yeah, even that is gone now.
All right, Galad.
Well, I know I told you uh an hour and a half, we've gone half an hour over.
I really appreciate you uh joining us again today.
It's always interesting to talk to you and get your perspective.
Everybody make sure to follow Gilad on Twitter at Galad Artsman, uh his website, Galad.co.uk as well, where you can find his his books, The Wandering Who, Ada Zion, and what's the most recent one?
Being in time, sold out on the website but available on Amazon.
It's a sold out on the website, um, but uh you can get it um on Amazon, indefinitely in America.
Are you we're gonna be writing any more books?
Um yeah, I kind of uh I I'm I'm kind of uh I just have to finish a book that I start to write more than a year ago, two years ago, uh, about uh the transition in Israel from the land of the Israelis into a Jewish state.
I think that it's a fascinating uh transition.
But I think that uh we are going into such a strange world.
I'm kind of it's really intensifying.
Things things are heating up and it's uh it's escalating quickly.
Yeah, yeah, I I think that you are right, and uh I hope that um that we will make it to the other side in one piece.
Exactly.
All of us.
All of us, and uh it's it's quite frightening.
It's quite frightening.
We're doing all we can to uh speak out against it.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
That's what nice one.
Thank you so much.
Stay on the line, Gilad, I'm gonna wrap it up real quick.
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I'll I'll talk to you again soon as well, but stay on the line.
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