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	Welcome ladies and gentlemen.
	Adam Green here with Nomore News.org.
	Today is Wednesday, April 8th, 2020.
	And joining me to discuss 5G coronavirus, uh, some of the theories surrounding that and much more.
	I've joining me.
	I have investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, author, activist, public speaker, Derek Brose.
	You can find his work at The Conscious Resistance.
	He just put out a documentary about 5G, the 5G Trojan Horse.
	He is on Twitter.
	All the links are in the description below at D.Bros Live Free, The Conscious Resistance.
	You can see his documentary.
	A month ago, the 5G Trojan Horse.
	And I saw his video on Corbett Report talking about some of the 5G coronavirus theories that are circulating the internet.
	He did a video the other day as well.
	Uh titled Sorry I was wrong about 5G.
	I wanted to bring them on for a while.
	This was the perfect time.
	Thanks you so much for coming on, Derek.
	It's good to have you here.
	Yeah, thanks for having me, brother.
	It's uh seems like it's been a while, like we're supposed to be connecting sooner or later.
	I think our audience is overlap to some degree.
	Yeah, I've been uh watching your videos for I don't know, 10 years maybe.
	I remember you from way back in the day on the streets.
	Uh, your latest videos uh well, always your videos, your activism on the streets is really inspired me.
	You are really uh a beast.
	And I'm gonna play some highlights from your documentary where you're doing these confrontations with the mayor and uh lobbyists for uh telecommunications industry, so you're uh doing an excellent job.
	Yeah, I appreciate that, man.
	Definitely, and like I said, definitely you're doing good work out there.
	So looking forward to tonight's conversation.
	As you've seen lately, there's just a lot of there's a lot of rabbit holes people are falling down, and um and some of them are are pretty pretty misinformed, I'll say.
	Yeah, we're gonna uh get into some of these uh theories, but I just wanted to go before uh to show you did this documentary hour and a half, uh put it out a month ago.
	5G the Trojan horse.
	You've had these uh viral videos of you and uh what are these called?
	These things you go to.
	Yeah, those are the Houston City Council, yeah, going there just to kind of City Council meeting.
	Make some noise a little bit, yeah.
	I I saw you had one had uh just under a million views, so going viral with this info.
	And uh how many how many of these did you show up at in all?
	Do you have a count?
	Um specifically related to 5G, um, probably close to 10 or so.
	I mean different the Houston City Council meetings, and then they found out about this uh thing called the Tower Commission that is just another corrupt local board.
	So yeah, I tried to go there not because I think they actually listen, but for that purpose, like you said, one of the videos has close to a million views, so I just rip it off the city's website and then upload it to YouTube and it gets seen by a lot more people.
	And watching you call out this mayor was just like hilarious.
	If if the c if Americans had more patriots like you getting active and involved, it would be a completely different world out there, and you really should be a uh motivation inspiration to people to uh to get active.
	Myself included, but the way you even ran for mayor because this mayor was so corrupt in getting 5G awards and stuff.
	Tell us about that a little bit.
	Yeah, so I decided last April to run for mayor of Houston and Berseau.
	Obviously, I didn't win.
	And I was kind of terrified to win.
	It was more about trying to get the information, the ideas out there, specifically 5G.
	I started exposing 5G in Houston in uh September 2018, contrary to what some of the people will have you believe.
	5G did not start in Wuhan just a couple of months ago.
	It was actually rolling out in Houston in 2018 and many other places in the US prior to that.
	Um so I'd been kind of waking up to the whole issue and and really looking deeper into it, and I just happened to be uh asking the right questions at the right time, And I was able to interview the CEO of Verizon and the mayor on the same day, and both of them kind of dodged my questions, and that was before I even knew much about 5G, but I just realized okay, they don't want to talk about it, so I need to dig deeper.
	Started going to city council meetings, and eventually, like the image people are seeing, I was able to confront uh the head of the FCC or at least one of the chairmen and different people involved.
	Uh, but I started going, yeah, city council, I think the first time was October 2018, and that was that viral video, the one that has uh 900k video uh views, and just going there to just bring the information that I'm finding and share it with them, and also in a way to expose what they're doing.
	And after doing that for a while, I decided okay, they're not gonna listen.
	The mayor's basically a local dictator.
	Houston has one of the strongest mayoral positions in the country, only maybe second to Denver, and they basically can do whatever they want.
	City Council has little to no power.
	So I figured, you know what, I'm gonna run for mayor and just kind of do this as a way to talk about real issues.
	And we talked about everything from uh disarming the police to uh putting a stop to 5G in the city and to doing things like bringing food forests and decentralizing the food production system and tried to bring a lot of radical ideas, but it was really born out of my fight against 5G in Houston and just seeing that it's it's happening so aggressively from the local to the federal level, and I kind of felt like if I didn't do something, you know, extreme that maybe there'd be no way to wake up more people.
	So I used the mayoral race as a way to do that.
	I was able to get on local mainstream media and get these ideas, you know, into the conversation and get people asking questions about it.
	Of course, things are still rolling along, but it was sort of my I guess last effort to uh try to wake people up in Houston to that issue and others before I decided to leave because I'd already planned on leaving prior to this whole coronavirus thing.
	I want to play um this lobbyist here.
	So this is an excerpt from your documentary 5G uh Trojan horse.
	Let's play this.
	Who is this?
	This is the head lobbyist of the FCC.
	He's uh Brendan Carr.
	He is one of the chairmen of the FCC.
	He's a former uh lawyer that's worked with this law firm that's worked for Verizon, and you know, he's just part of that whole web of FCC, big wireless, big tech.
	Okay, here we go.
	Harvard to put out the study about captured agency that folks like yourself who've been lawyers and worked in the industry are essentially captured the the regulators, you know, this idea that the FCC can't be trusted to regulate 5G and cell phones and things of that sort because of not only yours, but Ajik Pai and others uh industry connections.
	Yeah, we're really glad to see the growth in 5G.
	One of the things that we've done at the FCC is build on the policies put in place by local elected features, elected leaders here in Houston, Texas, the state legislator put policies in place that helped guide the way for 5G builds.
	So you asked him about conflict of interest, the revolving door between the uh the FCC and uh these telecommunications companies, and he gives you his scripted answer that he just repeated for the question before.
	This is this is insane dodgery here.
	Yeah, he's like a robot, man.
	It's really it was it was really disturbing just how but also I think kind of illustrative of how these people are.
	Like you said, I ask him one question, he gives the answer.
	I ask like for a little more, and he gives the exact same program response.
	But you could tell he kind of slipped and he couldn't, you know, he wasn't used, they're not used to being confronted with real questions.
	And then and then here you are on the street.
	I love it.
	Second time, and once again, he avoided my questions.
	Mr. Carr, can I follow up with you on yesterday?
	I'm good, man.
	Thank you.
	All right, well, then we'll just do it this way.
	All right, so I love that.
	We'll just do it this way.
	That was that was classic.
	And then, just to show how how a bunch better it gets, you run for mayor and then get up on the stage and tell off the mayor in front of everybody and call him out for his uh corruption with uh 5G and his award and stuff.
	Just classic.
	Yeah, I definitely I definitely am not gonna lie and say I don't enjoy calling these people out.
	I mean, it's kind of a thrill.
	And like you said, I mean, I got a little lot of shit for that because I'm I mean, I'm an anarchist, and so people are like, oh, you're running for office, but I think people who think a little deeper can see what I was doing.
	I haven't seen anybody, most people at least out there calling these people out directly to their face, and I just had to sign a little piece of paper, and all of a sudden I was a candidate for mayor, and people wanted to talk to me and bring me on local news, and I get to be on a stage and call the mayor out to his face.
	Your your confidence is uh inspiring, and your your uh your bravery to do this stuff to stand up on a stage and go to these and speak at these events is uh is something else.
	I would be honored one day to uh hit the streets with you.
	I don't know, in my neighborhood or meeting up somewhere and uh in and handling some business.
	Hell yeah, man.
	I'm I'm definitely down.
	I I you know the thing about my work is it definitely started in the streets in Houston in 2010.
	When I started waking up, I was freaking out, and the only thing I could think of to do was just print out flyers with, hey, have you heard of the police state or are you concerned about this and all kinds of things I was waking up to and going and putting those on people's cars and passing them out.
	I I was a promoter before all this stuff.
	I used to book a lot of shows and festivals.
	So I took a lot of those same ideas and skills and just started applying it to this.
	So I've I've always felt like if I'm not on the streets in some capacity or having a physical interaction with the world with spreading information, not just my YouTube videos, then I've kind of failing myself.
	But that's just my personal take on it.
	I've uh early on in my channel, I went out and did a bunch of videos, and and I have, but just not very often.
	And it's it's because it's hard to get out there.
	And sometimes you go out and try to interview people and like nobody's there, you just don't get the right, you know, the right uh comments and stuff.
	And uh, but it's it's a great feeling uh being out in the real world and talk about this stuff.
	It definitely is a rush, wouldn't you say?
	No, absolutely.
	Yeah, I mean, that's the whole thing about the mayoral run, is like every time I was a little sort of nervous, like, all right, here's a we're s I got to speak in like high schools and uh retirement communities and rich communities and rich uh poor communities, places that had never before paid attention to my work and the city I live in, so I felt like I'm getting to really spread ideas there.
	And every time I said something, you know, controversial, I was of course a little nervous, like, all right, how are these people going to respond?
	I will say when I was running for mayor about two weeks before the election, there was a because I did about a dozen debates where I was on stage with the mayor and the other candidates, like you saw, and there was just a perfect opportunity.
	And one of the my answers to one of the questions they asked us was essentially saying that government and media are organized crime.
	And when I said that, this room full of it was like a like a black community, mainly black community organized by uh you know, some local fraternity, and there was a like an audible gasp in the room when I said that, followed by applause, followed by a room full of applause.
	Like, okay, people actually get it.
	And I posted that video on Facebook again, we're like two weeks out before the election for whatever it was worth.
	And my mayoral page, the page I have on Facebook was just Derek Bros for mayor of Houston.
	It was banned for a week for me posting that video that said government and media are organized crime.
	Incredible.
	Uh on Facebook, uh, Facebook is just absolutely terrible.
	So let's get into these theories.
	So you've been you've done a few videos on these.
	There's definitely explosion with coronavirus.
	There's been an explosion, a correlation of QAnon theories and uh 5G is definitely getting uh tied into this as well.
	So um what why don't we get into uh some of the main theories that you were discussing here that um you're seeing being uh spread around right now.
	Like, yeah, so of course go ahead.
	The I think the main the main ones, of course, and what I did on that whiteboard for the the looking at the screen, like it's the to the left I put the real people who say like, yeah, it's real, but it's much much worse.
	It's real, but it's not as bad.
	And then the people on the other end of the spectrum, which uh I'm I haven't ran into anybody, but I'm sure they're out there, the people who say it's a hundred percent fake, no deaths, no uh people in the hospitals, no virus, no anything, and then people of various degrees who think elements are fake or exaggerated.
	But um I talked about so whether it's real but much worse, whether it's real but really bad, uh much you know, not as bad as we're being told, uh it's real, but potentially a bioweapon that could have been accidentally or purposefully released by the US or China.
	Um I would even say Israel deserves a consideration in that conversation.
	Definitely um and uh then the idea that it's uh again maybe real but not as bad, and so there's empty hospitals.
	We saw this hashtag empty hospitals, hashtag film the hospitals going around.
	And I think there's some elements of truth maybe to that, but I also don't think every single person who's posting videos on YouTube of empty hospitals is a is is a piece of evidence that we should consider.
	You know, there's a lot of variables in that, whether or not the hospitals were ever busy in the first place and whether or not those towns have you know been hit hard by what they're calling COVID 19.
	Um so there's a lot of variables to that.
	And then of course there's people who say that uh viruses aren't real, and uh this kind of the debate over germ theory versus terrain theory that I've been exploring lately, and then of course, as you know, some people get into the idea of exosomes, and so what we're really witnessing is the body trying to excrete toxins, and you know, there's a lot of different arguments within these various theories.
	Um honestly, man, I think the one that has the most merit at this point is some sort of bioweapon if if it's not a natural thing, which there's a lot of evidence to show that it doesn't seem to be acting in a natural way, uh, if you could say that, and others who are um I would say more experienced and more knowledgeable than myself in this area who have come forward and talked about it, including Francis Boyle and maybe some others who are calling into question, and then you have like the US seemingly pointing their finger at China, China, Iran, and Venezuela saying the US released a bioweapon.
	I mean, there's a lot of finger pointing even at the state level, not just the uh you know internet conspiracy theorists.
	Um so it's a lot to dissect, but also what I the point I was making in that video too is that the part of the event 201 exercise that was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the World Economic Forum and CDC and others discussed the strategy for censoring the internet.
	You know, they said, Oh, in their exercise, they were saying conspiracy theories.
	Cool, good.
	They're saying conspiracy theorists are you know pulling up uh ideas that the UN released this bioweapon or whatever, so we need to censor them.
	And um, but they also talked about potentially arresting people, but then they also said that we need to flood people, consider the flood strategy and flood people with credible information.
	And I I think that what we're witnessing here uh is the flooding of not only credible information from the CDC and other state sources, but uh information that is purposeful, purposefully disinfo, misinformation, and just outright lies and fabrications or just making connections where they might not be.
	Um and I and then it really does remind me of the 911 truth movement uh as this event itself reminds me of 9-11 and how many boxes it's checking uh for these people.
	Definitely.
	And uh the most important thing though is that no matter what it is, uh necessarily who's behind it, they're gonna use it as a pretext.
	They are using it as a pretext to justify uh taking away more of our rights, more of an Orwellian police state that they're gonna bring in.
	Um and uh and the 5G stuff.
	So let's move into oh here actually let's play the clip about the this info, misinfo from event two oh one, which people are comparing to uh agenda twenty-one.
	They just added a zero in between.
	But here we go.
	Here's just a minute from this documentary.
	These strange things are happening.
	This is from 201.
	Working together.
	...are reacting in different ways as to how best to manage the overwhelming amounts of dis and misinformation circulating over the internet.
	In some cases, limited internet shutdowns are being implemented to quell panic.
	The line between disinformation and misinformation is not always an easy one to find.
	Governments need to be willing to do things that are out of their historical perspective or for the most part.
	It's it's really uh a war footing that we need to be on.
	It can happen quickly, you know, marshall type plan, martial law mean if they say that exactly, but a martial plane that can go into effect uh can stimulate a change very quickly.
	The distrust relates to the health system more generally.
	A step up from the put of the government on enforcement actions against fake news.
	I think a couple of things we have to consider are even before this began, the anti-vaccine movement was very strong, and this is something specifically through social media that has spread.
	Welcome to event 201.
	Okay, so there's event 201.
	Very clearly they're gonna use this to crack down and censor.
	And we're already seeing it.
	Absolutely.
	This is BBC April 7th, so yesterday.
	Coronavirus, YouTube Titans rules.
	So that's that's like a euphemism for censors, Titans rules after David Icke 5G interview.
	He had 65,000 people watching it live.
	It would probably had uh at least a million views.
	And uh here's YouTube to reduce spread of videos falsely linking 5G to coronavirus.
	It's on bit shoot if you guys want to see it, it's almost got half a million views.
	And uh they're freaking out because uh David Icke in those videos said was saying that basically viruses aren't real, they're exosomes, that all of this sickness is coming just from the 5G being turned on, and then now there's people cell phone towers attacked as conspiracy theory connecting 5G and coronavirus gain steam steam.
	Your thoughts.
	Yeah, man, there's a lot of bullshit out there, and um well, one thing I want to say that uh just kind of a main point on this that people should remember because I'm hoping your audience can think critically than some of the people I've been running to online lately because it seems like people are thinking that just because something gets censored, that automatically means it's true.
	I see a comment on YouTube mentioning Dana Ashley and her videos and um other people's videos getting taken down, and I never support censorship, definitely don't support big tech, YouTube, or any of these people having more control over the information flow.
	And at the same time, I see a lot of very crappy videos with no you know ties to reality and no attempt at sourcing or uh backing it with anything creditable.
	And I don't mean mainstream credible, I mean like just facts that people can other people can document, not somebody's interpretation or their opinion or whatever it may be.
	And uh I think that's getting worse, unfortunately, and so that gives these people and their minds the justification, the excuse to say, oh, look at these crazy conspiracy theorists, just like event 201 talked about, and start censoring even further.
	Uh that doesn't mean that everything that gets like I said, that doesn't mean everything that gets censored is is accurate, but it also doesn't mean it's necessarily false either, as as you know, we should all understand.
	But uh the the thing about David Icke's video, I've watched you know a good let's say an hour of it or so, and I watched the previous one he did.
	And for anybody who's heard David Icke speak over the years, I mean it was a lot of interesting information.
	It sounded very familiar to the things he's been saying and writing about and talking about over the years, but I didn't see anything that was groundbreaking and that really or that was you know there wasn't weren't a lot of references to the things he was saying.
	Now, of course, we anybody who's paying attention understands the plan that's going on.
	This technocracy is unfolding before our eyes.
	There's no doubt about that right now.
	But we're also in a point, like if we're gonna continue to do that groundwork like we were talking about earlier, and reaching people, we have to have accurate information and credible information in order to get them because they're already predisposed to this idea that anybody who questions things is a conspiracy theorist.
	And some people are conspiracy theorists, and the worst way of that, you know, I'm a conspiracy researcher, I guess you could say, but I definitely see how some people just believe anything.
	Anything they see, hear, read, whatever, they don't fact check it, and then they repeat it and it gets and it goes viral.
	So and the other thing I want to say is it's interesting to me.
	Now Ike's video got taken down fast, but uh as a reference, Dana Ashley, the YouTube channel for those who know her, and I'm not bashing on her at all.
	Um, but her video was going viral a couple weeks ago.
	YouTube took it down about a week ago.
	It had over a million views, and it was one of the first videos claiming that 5G and coronavirus were the same thing, or that they were at least definitely connected.
	And I did a video following up and found several holes in what she was proposing.
	But of course, my video got a lot less views than her video, which have over a million views.
	So it gets a million views, it's going viral out there, and then it gets taken down, and of course, people react like, oh, they're taking down, you know, the truth.
	And uh at least with that particular video, it definitely was not accurate.
	And of course that doesn't justify anything, but my point is there's a lot of bad information floating around right now, and I think that we would be idiots not to think that whether it's intelligence agencies, whether it's a uh uh others have suggested the telecoms themselves who are trying to hurt the 5G movement because just a couple of months ago,
	there were global protests against 5G in January, a massive day of action all around the world, places are starting to push back, and then now they can very easily say, look at these crazy 5G people, they think coronavirus is you know caused by you know 5G and they're burning towers and this and that.
	And I'm I actually wrote about burning towers in my most recent book, How to Opt Out of the Technocratic State, and said that people keep telling me they're gonna do this.
	Um and I talked about the the the strategy that's known as monkey wrenching, you know, actually direct action in some ways, and we might get to a point, you know, where that is necessary if this thing doesn't stop, and maybe that's what this is.
	Maybe we're at the very beginning of people being sick of it and willing to light things on fire, but um, or it could be somebody else doing this in a way to to make those who are questioning this look bad.
	Uh I'm not exactly sure, and I'm not trying to claim I know, but I I'm definitely skeptical of everything going on, and because of this event is so huge, and because of that talk 201 talked about the flood and you know, all this stuff, I do believe they are purposely flooding us with all kinds of uh information to overload people.
	That's why I can do a whiteboard and still barely you know cover half the information that's out there, and people are reaching out and saying, I'm overwhelmed, I don't know where to look.
	I you know, there's too much information out there, and I think this is being done on purpose.
	Yeah, so much different contradictory information that and people are are tuning out to a degree.
	And and David Icke has always been talking about 5G, or not always, but for a long time in interviews, a lot of people have been talking about 5G, but they're using it now.
	And uh it wasn't just David Icke's video that got taken down, it was also the last American vagabond had his channel demonetized.
	I know Luke from We Are Change had his um demonetized as well.
	So it was a whole wave of them going after people, and any basically independent media that was talking about coronavirus.
	Absolutely, man.
	And if you don't mind, dude, I want to add a couple points on this because I'm I'm watching the video in the comments, and there's some of these claims that again are just continuously pop up.
	Somebody mentioned 30 to get 60 gigahertz causing internal damage to oxygen molecules.
	Here's the thing about this.
	Dana Ashley put this information out, and now it's been repeated by a lot of other people.
	There are studies that talk about the effects of 60 gigahertz and how it affects the oxygen the electrons of the oxygen molecule.
	But the studies that I've found, and I think there's only a couple of them out there, maybe only one, they are talking about oxygen being absorbed in the atmosphere.
	There are no specific studies that say oxygen absorbed by the human body would be affected in the same way.
	Potentially, yes, and maybe probably yes, but we don't have that definitive evidence.
	So when these people are sharing this information, and somebody goes and does a search for it, the only thing they're gonna find is a study that says 60 gigahertz can affect oxygen in the atmosphere, and that's part of the transmission of the frequencies which uh 5G is on.
	So while there is some pretty scary things, there's definitely a study that says 50 megahertz can activate latent Epstein bar virus in people.
	I mean, there's some really crazy things that need to be looked at, and some of the things we were talking about earlier.
	Um, but we just got to make sure we're putting out credible information.
	Another person said, I don't think 5G is more harmful than 3G or 4G.
	And I'm assuming they mean they think that this isn't harmful at all, but they need to understand that in 2018, the National Toxicology Program put out a 10-year, 35 million dollar study that conclusively showed that 2G and 3G led to an increase in tumors, melanomas and shenomas uh of the heart and brain and and rats.
	And the scientists that were involved have tried to speak out about it.
	The FDA and the FCC both said, oh, that study was flawed, it doesn't apply to humans and whatever else.
	But that's something 2G and 3G that people have already been using for decades.
	And we're you know, they're just getting some information out about that.
	So we're moving to a point where 5G is going is going to include the installation of towers and cells at a rate never before seen at uh you know at a very quick speed.
	So hundreds of thousands of new cell sites and towers in the next couple of years.
	And you know, it's definitely a concern.
	And I don't think it's it's coronavirus.
	There is definitely studies though that talk about the effect.
	Oh you cut out a bit.
	You froze on me.
	I don't know if you can hear me.
	Okay, reconnecting.
	Okay.
	Come on.
	There we go.
	5G equals COVID-19.
	Yeah.
	Well, you just you cut out for like 15 seconds, you're completely frozen.
	Oh, okay, cool.
	Oh shit.
	Could you hear me at all?
	No, no, we didn't hear any of it.
	Okay, well, I was basically just saying that coronavirus does not equal 5G, that there is definitely studies that show 5G affects the immune system, that it can affect the cell walls and can make people more, you know, have a weaker body in general, and perhaps they could be susceptible to something like COVID-19, but I don't think that there's a 5G equals COVID-19, like some people have tried to claim.
	You need to upgrade to 5G, and maybe you won't uh cut out like that on Skype.
	Well, the thing is, Mexico doesn't have 5G, right?
	So I'm um for the moment I'm safe from it.
	So the media is going crazy about this.
	They're they're burning down uh they're burning down the 5G towers, and uh they're trying to say, you know, headlines, the conspiracy linking, it won't go away.
	It's spreading what the experts say.
	No, it doesn't cause uh so can you explain?
	I saw you explaining your other uh in your other video.
	We all agree here we are concerned about 5G.
	We we're gonna get into that some more, but you think that it undermines the 5G argument when you're linking it to coronavirus.
	Why is 5G not causing the coronavirus in your mind?
	Uh well, I mean, even one of your commenters had a good comment and said if if 5G is is coronavirus, then why are only humans affected by it?
	Because we have studies showing that animals, uh plants, the soil, uh, a number, you know, all biological life is affected by EMFs and the exposure to EMFs.
	So if these, like for example, what people proposed is that, well, Wuhan has 5G, and they did have hundreds of base stations, and they were surrounded by it starting in October 2019, and so people are saying that's what's actually getting them sick.
	People are falling, you know.
	At one point, people were claiming, look at these videos of people falling dead in the street.
	That's it's actually 5G, and that hasn't happened anywhere else.
	But uh so they had to refine their arguments and say, you know, it was just making people weak.
	But even that argument, it there are places in the world that have coronavirus or has said to have it that don't have 5G, right?
	So that doesn't add up.
	Like Iran's commentary.
	Exactly.
	And people will pull up an article, and I know somebody's gonna pull it up already and say, but look at this article, it says that Iran actually may have had it, but we don't have evidence for it.
	It's a potential claim about them talking about it.
	There's no proof that they do have it.
	Um there's other places, you know, there's a lot of different factors.
	So I do think that it does undermine the overall movement to you know, wake up people to question 5G.
	Um I'm not trying to shut down conversation.
	I've been accused of this lately just for you know asking for facts.
	People are like, you're trying to silence us.
	Um, I'm just asking for credible information so that we can advance the goals because as you saw in the documentary, I mean, I've been researching this for over two years now.
	I've gone to extreme lengths to confront the people, not just talk about it on the internet, but confront the people that are actually doing these things and rolling them out.
	And doing the documentary that I put together is not a conspiracy documentary.
	I made it for a very much for a mainstream audience, but it's all factual, and even that information people have trouble accepting because they're just they're you know they're totally indoctrinated or whatever.
	But when you start out with coronavirus is 5G, it's just like with anything.
	You know, if you start out with telling people that the world is run by lizards, for example, or something like that, then it makes it a little bit harder for them to listen after you.
	And that may be true, and I don't know.
	I'm not gonna sit here and claim I know one way or the other.
	Uh but yeah, that's my point.
	It's just I'm always trying to think about how we can reach more people and grow these ideas and increase that.
	And we have our followings on YouTube, but there's also a lot more people that we need to continue to reach, and they're not gonna do that if they can easily debunk some information people are putting out there.
	Right, right, yeah.
	Almost like a straw man for them to knock down and make us uh look crazy.
	And um so let's uh oops.
	Let's move on to uh we have no reason to believe okay.
	Hold on.
	Oh, it let's let's play this little clip here.
	This is uh government condemns dangerous nonsense coronavirus 5G conspiracy.
	Only point about the following G monsters.
	Uh thank you again for mentioning it.
	Um the stories have gone about that uh uh they play a role in the in the the spread of the disease.
	Uh that's just nonsense.
	Dangerous nonsense as well.
	Um hand over to uh Steve to say a little bit more about uh the vital importance of uh knocking down this rubbish.
	Yes.
	Uh so the 5G story is complete and utter rubbish.
	It's nonsense, it's the worst kind of fake news.
	The reality is that the mobile phone networks are absolutely critical to all of us, particularly in a time when we are asking people to stay at home uh and to um not see uh relatives uh and friends.
	Uh but in particular, those are also the phone networks that are used by our emergency services and our health workers.
	And I'm absolutely outraged, absolutely disgusted uh that people would be taking action against the very infrastructure that we need to respond to this health emergency.
	Uh, it is absolute and utter rubbish, and I can't condemn it uh in stronger terms than that.
	Okay, so ultimately the people that have always been um pro uh trying to raise awareness about the dangers of 5G are not liking the people that are basically connecting coronavirus to 5G and saying that, and some people in the chat were like, oh, we're not saying that it causes coronavirus, it's just similar symptoms, which I I don't know if I if I buy that either.
	You need to have uh you make incredible claims, you have to Have uh incredible evidence.
	But again, we're saying you did a whole documentary about it.
	You you showed up at the city council over and over again.
	There's here's Scientific American, we have no reason to believe 5G is safe.
	With there's this documentary as well as yours, generation zapped this that gets into the dangers of EMFs.
	Uh I'm aware of it.
	Even here's CBS 5G wireless towers raise health property value concerns.
	Here we'll skip Trump getting into it yet.
	But you know, I saw you mention uh airplane mode for your phone.
	Don't ever put your phone up to your head.
	That's what the cell phone companies uh admit or say in the fine print.
	Don't put the cell phone by your head.
	I think it was the CDC did a study and announced that uh that it does cause cancer a couple months ago that was in your documentary as well.
	So we're just spic specifically focusing on this coronavirus 5G connection.
	Saying Yeah, absolutely.
	And and yeah, I think that so to the point that some folks have made it there are some studies or some references saying that it can lead to flu like symptoms.
	There's something called radiation uh pneumoniaitis, or I can't know how to pronounce it, but basically radiation pneumonia, that says that some people who've been exposed to radiation could uh develop pneumonia-like symptoms after the fact.
	So these are the different things that are people are are taking and finding.
	There was a doctor that came on Twitter the other day and said that uh what he's seeing is that the ventilators are making things worse for people because it looks like they're um like they were up in high altitude and they're not acclimated, they're having having trouble getting uh breath in.
	And so people took that video and said, Look, see, they're having shortness of breath and 5G EMF exposure can cause this and and try to tie them together, even though the doctor didn't even mention 5G or anything like that at all.
	Um just trying to make it fit their narrative.
	And the the last point I will say about that in general, though, just to think about when it comes to EMF exposures, because again, that's a real concern.
	I know you know this, Adam.
	Like the some people are become EMF sensitive after a period of time of high exposure or different events that can happen to them.
	EMF exposure, though, typically the effects are cumulative, they build up over time.
	That's why people were concerned about going through the body scanners at the airports, because if you're flying a lot, then you're gonna constantly be exposed to that radiation from the scanners, and over time you could develop skin cancer or develop something like that, because unless the military or somebody with the high grade weapon is you know turning things up,
	as people like to say, and aiming uh you know, 5G frequency or the you know part of the spectrum directly at you, let's say 60 gigahertz, then and you feel some like immediate effect, like for example, the crowd control weapon that DARP has developed, people feel a heating on the skin and they run away from it.
	Unless you're facing something like this, the real concerns about EMF exposure are something that builds up over time.
	It's not that you're gonna walk in front of a cell tower and have a seizure and fall on the ground.
	Right, right.
	And um is there is there another uh point for people to understand why uh why you think that 5G is not current connected to coronavirus?
	Like it's it's so people are getting sick where there's no 5G, that's one.
	Is there anything else?
	I thought there was a few that you covered in your other video.
	Yeah, so okay, so it it mainly it's that the research is that's being put forward making these claims isn't actually accurate to that point.
	You know, I've I will say in recent days I've been more open to the idea uh that the immune system is being affected by EMF exposure in different ways.
	There are some doctors that are coming out and speaking about that.
	Dr. Martin Paul, who was included in my documentary, he put out a paper a couple of days ago, and at the same time, somebody just tweeted that to me a couple hours ago saying, hey, look at this.
	This is one doctor arguing why that well, that's not correct.
	So there's just there's a mix of information, but the other thing is the people who are trying to connect 5G to coronavirus.
	What they're really trying to do is connect it to this theory that was put forward by Arthur Furstenberg in the book The Invisible Rainbow that says that all pandemics are not caused by viruses, but have actually been caused by uh upgrades of digital communications technology.
	So the 1918 Spanish flu, uh, which originated on an army base, they're saying, well, no, it wasn't a virus, there was actually um there was actually uh radars were being introduced at that time, and that affected excuse me, make sure my computer's charging.
	That affected the the people there and they got sick from radiation.
	Like that's what they're claiming happened, right?
	And then they go through each pandemic year and claim, oh, here's a new upgrade in technology.
	And I just I I'm looking further into it to see if there's anything credible, but I think there's plenty of w ways to poke holes in that theory.
	Um But that's essentially whether they know it or not.
	That's where it's coming from is people saying that these pandemics aren't real.
	It's actually it's not just 5G, it's that every single and then some people will say, well, what about the black plague?
	Or what about the you know, there's a lot of ways to poke holes in that.
	I just think it's a it's a lack of credible information for the most part.
	That doesn't mean that people aren't being affected by 5G.
	That doesn't mean that people don't have weak immune systems for a lot of reasons and that EMF exposure is not helping the situation, but they're not the same thing.
	Got it.
	And uh it's funny because you know Trump is supporting 5G so much.
	He was says, I want 5G and even 6G technology in the United States as soon as possible.
	It is far more powerful.
	That's one of his favorite words is powerful, faster and smarter than the current standard.
	American companies must step up their efforts or get left behind.
	There is no reason that we should be lagging behind on.
	So it's clear where he stands.
	And you know, we've only been talking about the health concerns, not even d like the Internet of Things and all the privacy concerns as well.
	You know, a whole nother uh element to it.
	And that to me is maybe I don't want to say it's the bigger concern, but that's definitely a huge concern.
	And I and there are some within the 5G movement, as you said, a lot of 5G activists are kind of uh it's it's creating a divide.
	Imagine that, just like the 911 Truth movement.
	It's creating a divide where people are saying, no, 5G is coronavirus, and the other side, like some groups like Americans for responsible technology, who are very much trying to wake people up to 5G.
	They recently sent out an email just a couple days ago telling their email subscribers, please do not share this information, it's not accurate.
	Um, and that's calling uh causing some division.
	Some folks think that the larger concern with 5G is what you were just talking about the surveillance state, the technocracy, the technocratic state, the internet of things, and that focusing on the health claims.
	I know James Corbett has said something along this lines that focusing on the health claims, which um are a little more difficult to prove, it takes people away from focusing on that.
	I think they're both important, but absolutely we should not forget that while this whole thing is going on and people are arguing about this, Trump and his people and his administration and and and the FCC are rolling 5G out as quick as they can to build the technocracy to build the surveillance state even further.
	Yeah, I mean, literally March 23rd, the bill announcement, infrastructure and technology, president signed the secure 5G and beyond act of 2020, right in the middle of this uh pandemic that we're having right now.
	So that's interesting.
	Um I don't want to play that quite yet.
	There's that uh here's Trump.
	This is from Gone's Face Like the Sun.
	This is uh um Trump them explain the explaining 5G to Trump.
	That is like just in various things, drones, autonomous cars are gonna require a whole different level of speed and what's the case.
	Autonomous cars, drones, which they're rolling out the drones more with this whole uh you know uh pandemic also.
	If you want to get the kind of speed required today, these lights are five.
	We have to take five with every one of these houses to get that kind of bandwidth.
	What 5G does says forget about all that fiber out here?
	Get fiber to this.
	The small cell, which uh Marcel is going to show you here.
	This small cell will broadcast this kind of bandwidth to all these homes.
	Okay, you no longer need to run movie things.
	We would not have.
	And this is 2018, we'll deploy this kind of configuration and companies in here are, and in 2020, it becomes global.
	So this handsome one.
	2020 it becomes global.
	Is that what he said?
	Did you hear that?
	Yep.
	Interesting.
	So that has to be a good thing.
	Where does that clip from?
	Uh I don't know.
	I just saw it today.
	I've been doing so much research on this the last few days.
	I mean, I've always uh known about 5G, but uh this you know, specific related to corona, and this is face like the sun put this out.
	I guess in 2017, this is old.
	Didn't realize that.
	Wow.
	It's 5G Trump's new world order.
	So yeah, people have been on this for a long time.
	I think Trump has a good line here too.
	I want to get that.
	Hold on.
	Construction savings, too, ultimately.
	It's a huge uh construction saving.
	You don't have to deploy all those five.
	You see this little cell sign here.
	You're going from deploying these big cell sites and towers to deploying these all over cities.
	That's what Marcel move it faster.
	Six starting base is something that takes two years, so it's impossible to deploy.
	So this is why we need to fix this.
	And that's what 5G.
	When everybody talks about 5G, we can do a recommendation to the cities all over the country to get it going and guaranteed they can move it faster.
	Recommendations all over the country to do it faster.
	So that's you know, actually, what he did, what he did is he passed uh with the FCC last year, they passed um a rule basically, not a law, they just sort of initiated a rule saying that all localities and states now had a hundred, I think a hundred and eighty days, maybe six months, in order to approve 5G cell sites.
	So, I mean, it's just a total statist corporate takeover where they say they're they're partnering with the FCC, which the FCC is run by a bunch of Verizon lawyers and telecom lobbies, it's controlled by this group called the CTIA, and they basically said, okay, in Houston or wherever you're from, you can't decide how much to charge, whether or not you even want this thing, you have to approve it within six months.
	I mean, so that was that was uh an executive order put forward by Trump.
	Interesting.
	It's kind of reminds me of how they're trying to push this uh miracle cure drug for coronavirus that they claim hydroxychloroquine, they're trying to get it basically to everybody in the country, and now Dr. Oz is out today saying that it will um it will prevent you from getting coronavirus too.
	So they're ramping up people are wondering if Trump has uh conflict interest, if he's invested in some of the companies, but Donald Trump wants it, and he's gonna give it out for free with people with no insurance, and it's very odd.
	I did a video covering that the other day, but hydroxychloroquine, they want to push it out before it can be tested.
	And this is my this is a new theory that I'm gonna throw out there.
	I sent this to you right before the show, but we have enhanced, this is a study about cancer, in enhancement of the radiation response of cultured tumor cells by chloroquine.
	So apparently there's a have been several studies where you do radiation for like cancer, and if you take chloroquine with it, it makes it so the cells die more or aren't able to replicate.
	So I'm wondering radiation, people are talking about 5G and this drug that they're pushing, and then there's these studies that they're connected.
	Yeah, that man, that's that's pretty interesting stuff.
	I'm glad you brought that to my attention because that is crazy.
	I mean, I don't I hadn't didn't really know much about this uh hydroxychloroquine until recently when they started talking about, of course, as a potential treatment, but you really got me thinking about that.
	That you know, that's a whole nother layer here.
	If people are already being exposed to high levels of uh of EMFs, and because again, it's not just the 5G need to worry about, it's 2, 3, 3 G, 4G, it's your cell phone, your smartphone, it's the smart house, the smart fridge, all of these things and the smart meters, all of that together.
	Blue plus stepping outside Bluetooth headlines, yeah.
	Absolutely, like all those things together could be weakening our bodies.
	And so I wanted to ask you, and I don't know if you'd seen this, is this saying only people who are like you have to be taking hydroxychloroquine, and then that'll make your cells weaker, or is it if you've just ever taken it, your cells are now more predisposed once you expose to radiation.
	It says that if you take the hydroxychloroquine after you've been radiated, that that it uh kills the cells.
	Here's a rationale.
	Drugs used in chemotherapy such as hydroxychloroquine work in different ways to stop the growth of tumor cells, either by killing the cells or by stopping them from dividing.
	So radiation therapy uses high energy x-rays to kill tumor cells, giving the hydroxychloroquine together with that and another drug, the radiation therapy may kill more tumor cells.
	And when they kill when you do radiation and chemotherapy, it kills the fast growing cells.
	So this would kill technically if you're being I'm I'm not saying this is what's happening.
	I'm just you know putting my my uh speculative hat on, doing a little conspiracy uh theorizing.
	If there's a connection that taking hydroxychloroquine will make you more sensitive and susceptible to cell damage from EMF radiation.
	So I think this is really interesting, and I I'm also glad you're bringing up this right right now as we're having this conversation about kind of uh evidence and discussion and bringing that forward because um I'm pulling up an image right now, and maybe you can pull up one too for the audience of just the EMF spectrum.
	Because that study I noticed there, it said something that's important, and it specifically said If I read it correctly, if I'm reading it correctly, it says exposure to X-rays, right?
	It's saying radiation therapy uses high energy x-rays.
	So if you see on the uh the spectrum, X-rays are on the side that they call ionizing.
	And in the mainstream, they say that only ionizing is dangerous.
	That's like you know, exposure to radiation from nuclear power plants, x-ray machines, and the sun.
	But they claim that everything on the left, the non-ionizing is safe, that it can't ionize atoms, therefore they think it can't uh it can't harm people.
	So the study is if it if we look further, it might even say which specific uh gigahertz or which uh specific hertz on the spectrum, but it's said it mentioned X-rays.
	So my guess is it's specifically talking about X-ray radiation, which in this case would mean it doesn't apply to cell phone towers and things of that sort.
	Um so if that's true, then it wouldn't then it then there would be no connection.
	But you see, just as an example, we can see how quickly that idea can spread, right?
	Because obviously we need to look more into that, but that's just an example that if it's talking about X-rays, well, that's not even talking about the type of uh the part of the EMF spectrum that applies to cell phones and towers and things of that sort, which is over there in the microwave radio wave section.
	So, but I could easily see somebody taking this, and as you said, you put on your speculative hat for a minute and then putting out a video and just claiming look, this is it.
	This is for certain this is what it is.
	If you don't agree with me, you're a shill too.
	That's what they'll say.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So I would say we should look further into that because that either way, that is an interesting combination there.
	And some people could maybe there are people, for example, who get told to take hydroclop hydroxychloroquine, and they're exposed to X-rays at their work or in some other way, or maybe going through the the uh um, you know, various just X-ray machines in general that could get sick afterwards and have no idea about that connection.
	Yeah, and hydroxychloroquine, there's a big controversy over it, you know, just without you know, the the wrench I just threw in there.
	And Trump and all of his uh cronies have been promoting it big time, and now the CDC website just dropped it the guidance for the anecdotal data on Trump's backed hydroxychloroquine.
	And I was looking into the investors and actually Novartis is a pharmaceutical company, paid 1.2 million dollars for Michael Cohen, Trump's old lawyer, to lobby for him for what we don't know.
	They said it didn't work or nothing happened, but uh now they're sure purchasing that drug hard.
	And it seems to be unproven.
	Yeah.
	No miraculous recovery.
	Some ICU doctors say hydroxychloroquine isn't helping sickest patients, yet they're trying to rush it out and give it to everybody.
	And then at the same time go ahead, go ahead.
	Yeah, I was just gonna say, so I mean, the thing is, just like I said earlier, if something gets censored and and people think, well, that means it must be true.
	People think, oh, they're attacking Trump, so he must be a good guy.
	Or the you know, the news is saying this treatment is is not a good thing, then that must mean it's the cure.
	Yeah, and uh those are that's just not strong logic.
	You know, it could be true, but that one doesn't necessarily indicate the other.
	And I just think it's important for the well, Fox News is saying that it's it's a miracle cure and it's a game changer, and it's gonna it's the end of the pandemic and stuff, so you could say they're fake news too.
	But uh, and here's the publisher of uh yeah, that's the other thing they go, oh, you're reading from CNN, your mainstream media.
	It's like I'm I'm looking at both sides.
	I'm showing you what CNN says, I'm showing you what Fox News says.
	It's uh it's called having an open mind, being able to entertain a thought without uh uh believing it.
	Publisher of hydroxychloroquine study touted as Trump says the research didn't meet its standards.
	So even the publisher of it.
	Okay, here's here's one other thing I wanted to show.
	This is from this documentary as well.
	29.
	It's it according to this documentary, they're still putting up 5G towers during the shutdown at schools and uh around town, and people are going around and like confronting people about it.
	Is this the girl that you were talking about?
	Dana?
	Yeah, that's Dana.
	I thought so, yeah.
	She covers I'll keep my mouth shut for right now.
	Okay.
	So here's a guy going up.
	It really is.
	Why can't you answer any of them?
	They're setting up 5G, the police are there guarding them.
	They're talking to people.
	So they're setting them up, they're passing bills.
	Here's the exo exosome doctor Cohen, right?
	I tried to interview him.
	He says he's not doing interviews right now because I think him and that little segment that everybody keeps sharing right there is a part of the problem again that he just he's the one who made again made the insinuation.
	He's like, oh well, 5G was installed on Wuhan, and what's happening there?
	Coronavirus.
	You know, again, without sourcing it.
	I emailed him and asked him for his sources on why he's saying that these two things are connected.
	He says he's going to do a webinar this week and he'll reveal his sources or where he's getting his information from.
	But so far, I think again, it's done more damage than good.
	You know, my uh BS radar goes off.
	I've never even heard the idea that like, you know, viruses aren't real, and then all of a sudden it's like there's a there's a pandemic, and everybody's like, oh, they're not real, there's they're not even a thing, and like I'm seeing all over social media just fake, fake, fake, all of it's fake, everything.
	I mean, as if the conspiracy movement, you know, loosely using that term hasn't talked about depopulation and wanting to kill everybody with vaccines or you know, the elite wanting to uh exterminate everybody, like no, that there they that would never happen.
	It's all fake.
	There's nothing to worry about.
	It's weird.
	Yeah, man.
	I think it's the flood one way or the other.
	I don't know, and I don't know what like I said, I'm not here to act as if I'm a source on what exactly is real that we're seeing right now, but there is, like you said, uh just so much information, all of a sudden everybody's an expert on viruses.
	Not to mention the QAnon stuff, how ridiculous all that is, saying that oh, Trump is using corona and he he have you did you hear the one that they poisoned uh they they put put Corona into the adrenal chrome and gave it to all the elites, and that's why the elites are getting sick, and Trump is taking over the Federal Reserve and he's gonna uh round up all the pedophiles right now.
	And there's that those videos are going viral too.
	Hundreds of thousands, even on Twitter, 20,000 likes on a tweet that says something like that, it's just absurd, it's ridiculous.
	Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
	Like, okay, so how do these these ideas like that that and again I'm not calling for censorship in any way, but how do those ideas just sit out there going viral, nobody bothering to fact check them?
	You know, one of the things I want to mention just on some of the top topics we've covered today, I so I write articles for the Mind Unleashed website, and our main following is through Facebook.
	We've got nine million followers there, but we're reaching a tiny fraction of that because of all the BS going on.
	But the Facebook fact checkers have basically got us to a place where we we can't even really write anything because, for example, I wrote an article asking these questions about 5G and coronavirus.
	Like, is there any connection?
	But my friends, and and I know they're well-intentioned, because they don't want to get fact-checked, and we don't want to be you know, have the page get a strike and eventually just get taken away, we have to do these compromises because there's a f if a Facebook fact checker fact-checks you, which is like sciencealert.com,
	health alert, uh, all these you know vague websites that just pop out of nowhere that are now working with Facebook, they'll email you, but you gotta go back and forth and basically bend to their will until they'll remove this, you know, this uh scarlet letter on you, and they make you add things like this is totally fake, this is you know, this is not real.
	You can't even entertain the other opinion, right?
	Or the any other opinion other than what they say.
	So it's getting to the point where it's not just YouTube censorship, but it's these Facebook fact checkers.
	And they're there seem to be working so hard to fact-check accurate information, let's say about the gas attacks in Syria and you know the 5G and these things, but then other videos like QAnon just go viral with with without any end.
	Well, the I mean mainstream media has made fun of and attacked uh QAnon uh quite a bit, but yeah, that YouTube announced that they're gonna be doing more censorship, and then that that's you can look at the Google trends.
	They that's when QAnon just started exploding with all this.
	And they'll keep going and they'll keep spinning it and they'll uh move the goalpost when nothing happens, for sure.
	So it's supposed to be the the next date is Easter, so get ready for it this weekend.
	Well, oh, that's right.
	Well, uh Alex Jones said that he was gonna expose Q today.
	Today was supposed to be the big day where he revealed who QAnon really was before it got hijacked by who knows.
	I don't know if that happened.
	Okay, here we go.
	So here we're gonna go over a couple more stories.
	So Google wielding its vast troves of phone tracking data in virus fight.
	Of course, they roll this out.
	Um they've already been doing this anyway.
	Don't you think that's weird that like this has been known that they're tracking us and now they're pretending like they're just gonna start doing it?
	Yeah, I've thought about that too.
	But it's like, well, then if you're if you're using a Google phone or any of these devices, they're absolutely tracking it, and they're already giving it to the government, they're already working with it.
	But I think in some way, this provides cover where it's just another way for them to uh to uh normalize it, right?
	Because well, we have to do it for the the virus to fight the virus, and just like they have to do whatever they can for 9-11.
	I mean, it's the same thing.
	It's and this is I mean, this is while everybody is even in the chat are arguing about which theory is right, the technocracy is rolling out all around us.
	The 5G is moving forward, uh, the AI, the you know, they're using thermal imaging cameras now in China and other places.
	Bill Gates talking about digital certificates to travel, the UK is talking about immunity passports.
	Yeah, I mean, all the district vaccines, man.
	Bill Bill Gates, that's a whole nother aspect that I didn't even get into.
	And you know, I know uh I watched TrueStream Media video about Bill Gates that they did recently, and uh his dad was close friends with the Rockefellers and Soros and uh what was it?
	Uh Planned Parenthood and stuff.
	Yeah, he's a six he's a cousin to from six degrees to Nelson Rockefeller, and then one of his uh uh great-great-grandparents was a president for the Federal Reserve.
	I mean, he's just tied into all of it.
	The what he's the second biggest funder of the World Health Organization, and now he's the biggest funder because Trump just announced that he's not gonna fund it anymore.
	Did you see that?
	Yeah, I saw that.
	So I mean, these are all things that of course, like basically you have I was reading something saying that when uh Gates shows up at the World Health Organization, he's basically treated like a head of state because he's funding so much of it and he's obviously influencing it.
	So that organization is basically just become a mouthpiece for him and for his eugenic plans.
	Yeah, and then like Faus uh Fauci and the other woman, they they're deeply connected with him and like these panels for like vaccine the decade of vaccines and stuff, and now now he's like literally holding the whole world hostage, saying it's all gonna be shut down until everybody takes the vaccines and it's gonna be tracked, you're gonna have a certificate if you're vaccinated.
	It's like I don't think so, buddy.
	But I are we gonna stop them.
	Well, I mean, so I want to just while we have a moment to maybe focus on a solution for a second.
	There was actually an interview I did with uh James Corbett that I'd love for your listeners to check out as well.
	And and just the idea is talking about what I'm just calling the modern underground railroad, man.
	I mean, I came here to Mexico for a very specific reason, not just to get away from the tyranny for the moment, but to try to regroup because my plan had been to come out here and get some land and get organized.
	And you know, my goal is always to unplug from these systems as much as possible the banking system, the healthcare system, the food production system.
	And if we just stick to watching and making YouTube videos and complaining online, especially during this time of being shut down, all of this stuff is going to march forward, and it I mean, it has already been marching forward.
	But everything that we've been theorizing and reading about for years, it's right here in front of us.
	I mean, it's happening right now.
	And it I I kind of feel like this is just what it's like to be awake when a major event's happening.
	Like, for example, those who maybe were already awake prior to 9-11, when it happened, they realized like, oh my god, this is another lie happening right before our eyes.
	I you know that I wasn't awake at that point, but I know some older friends who were, and they were awake after JFK and they knew 9-11 was alive right from the beginning.
	Now many of us are awake to these things and we can see that we're being lied to.
	They're trying to deceive us by getting us all confused and fighting over these things.
	We need to be focusing on on more on realistic options.
	And whether you are a spiritual religious person, I don't think we should sit around and wait for saviors, whether that's QAnon, Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders, Moshiak, uh, Buddha, anybody, yeah, or any, you know, the the second coming, whatever it may be.
	I don't think we should just sit and do nothing.
	Because if you do believe in a creator, I think our creator wants us to take action, not to just sit around and do nothing, but to take the the bodies and the minds and the capabilities we have and to help our brothers and sisters that we can and to help ourselves and to do something, to create something better.
	Like if anything, this should be a catalyst to create real change.
	And uh, you know, we we shouldn't just be stuck in the fear.
	They want us to be stuck in this fear paradigm.
	They want us to be fighting each other and arguing and and not doing anything other than just waiting for this thing to roll out, and I guess we just sit here and watch it, and I mean, I that's not enough for me.
	So I came here to Mexico to try to get some communities going.
	There's a network of people out here that are forming, and not even just Mexico, all over the US and all over the world, and and there we have a website, it's freedomcells.org, C E L L S dot org, and it's just set up somewhat like a social network, but the whole point is to create a profile in there to put what Your interests are, what your skills are,
	what skills you want to learn, to uh add yourself to the map, not your specific address, but say your city, and to create local groups or cells or circles, whatever you want to call them, and use the map to find people to connect and to not just connect digitally, but to get out of the digital world and to start connecting locally, especially with all this going on.
	Like we need to be coming together as groups to unplug from these systems as much as possible.
	And I think only the people who choose to actively opt out are going to survive because the the reality is, like you mentioned, mandatory vaccinations, these things are coming.
	Maybe not this year, maybe not next year, but they are coming.
	And your choice is either going to be blindly submit, just to sit there and accept it because you're afraid, or you know, maybe go down and and fight to the death or whatever, but maybe we can think ahead a little bit.
	We can get organized now, because if it doesn't happen now, if this is just one giant leap towards the you know, so-called new world order, if this isn't the final step, we have a very brief window to try to get some shit together and wake people up and and take action.
	And isn't it amazing that while they're doing the big bank bailouts, they're rolling out the drones and the and getting rid of cash and mandatory vaccines, you're not allowed.
	We're on lockdown.
	You're not allowed to go protest in the streets.
	They'll fine you, they'll put you in prison right now.
	It's essentially uh a soft quasi-martial law.
	We got the drones here now that are going to be flying around uh checking everybody's temperatures.
	So that this is a future, and telling if you can cough and facial recognition, I'm sure also.
	So we got those.
	Oh, yeah, all those things are coming out.
	I hadn't seen that one there.
	But yeah, the drones are yelling at people on the streets, they're they're going out there to check in temperatures.
	I mean, and and yeah, it's it's definitely spreading, man.
	I mean, this is it.
	The fact that, for example, I'm from Houston, so Texas, right?
	If you leave Texas, if you go out of town and you go to Detroit or Louisiana or one of the places that they're calling hot spots, when you come back home, they're basically saying that you have to do a two-week quarantine.
	And in order to make sure you're doing that, they're gonna have Texas State troopers uh just do random house checks to make sure you're actually quarantined.
	That's the kind of crazy shit that's happening.
	They're talking about ankle braces too, or RFID tattoo dot dot tattoos.
	Here's one more story, and I know you gotta go.
	Um we'll we'll we'll close it out.
	Um, Jared Kushner and how his role in all of this.
	Um hospitals say feds are seizing masks and other coronavirus supplies without a word.
	So the feds are taking stuff from hospitals.
	Jared Kushner, who's operating a shadow coronavirus task force, appears not to know why federal emergency stockpiles exist.
	He had the the controversy on the the press conference.
	He's like, oh, there are federal government uh ventilators.
	There are, it's not the states.
	And they're like, what do you need them for?
	It's to send them over to Israel.
	Look at this.
	U.S. Department of Defense give one million masks to IDF for coronavirus.
	So we can't get masks, our hospitals are having mass shortages, but they're sending them to Israel's uh military.
	Well, I hadn't seen that one.
	That one's crazy.
	But um, it's it's it shows what's what the game is.
	So to get it even worse here, U.S. military tells members to make their own masks to fight coronavirus and new guidelines met with criticism.
	So our military is told to wear a bandana and they're sending a million masks to Israel.
	That should wake up people that are in the military to what uh No, that's that's anti-Semitic to say that that Israel shouldn't get those masks.
	You're you're right.
	They're chosen.
	God would want it that way, apparently.
	All right, Derek, I gotta get you on again soon to talk about uh finders and uh Epstein.
	Do you have another minute just to explain what we talked about Epstein before?
	That's so important.
	I want people to hear that.
	Yeah, I mean, we I dude, I can hang out for another 15-20 minutes.
	Okay, cool.
	So tell us about Epstein.
	This is you know, I know it's kind of old news now, then there's coronaviruses is in the cycle, but if you go to your videos here, it's one of your uh your most popular, if I can find it.
	Tell us about it, this interview you did.
	Okay, so that is an interview with uh Bradley Edwards, who is the attorney who I think he just released a book about a week or maybe two weeks ago.
	Um he's the attorney who's been fighting for to get you know, expose Epstein basically since 2005.
	He was one of the first attorneys with the first time Epstein got arrested and all that case happened, and he's continued to uh work the case.
	And that was I think that was late 2018, December 2018.
	And um it was I went to Florida for one of the several cases that was against Epstein.
	And this is a day that Epstein basically issued an apology and after he tried to defame this lawyer Brad Edwards and counter sue him saying that he was lying.
	Epstein was at was forced to basically admit that you know he lied about the lawyer.
	He didn't show up in person, but he issued an apology.
	So that was kind of like a minor victory.
	And I interviewed Brad Edwards here about that, but then I also asked him about various claims that Trump supporters have mentioned, or you know, tried to put out there saying that Trump kicked Epstein out of uh Mar-a-Lago and you know rejected him, and that was a sign that he was not involved.
	Sorry to interrupt, but Trump is totally connected in these Epstein networks.
	But all of his supporters are like, Trump's going after the pedophiles, and he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago.
	And you asked him about that claim.
	And go ahead.
	So people claim that Epstein was kicked out by Trump.
	Um this attorney, as I said, who has more experience on this than than any of us, who's been on this case for 15 years now.
	I asked him about that.
	And uh he said two interesting things.
	He said, Well, when he reached out to all kinds of people to try to get information that Trump was the only person to respond to respond and return his call.
	So he thought that was a positive thing.
	And I asked him, though, okay, well, what do you think about this claim that Trump kicks that kicked Epstein out of Mar-a Lago?
	And he said, after his research, which again was at this time 13 years, that he hadn't found any evidence of that claim.
	That he looked into it, and I looked into it further, and it basically seemed to come from uh the book Filthy Rich, uh, which is by an author that escapes my name.
	He usually writes fiction uh books, but he interestingly enough, this guy wrote Filthy Rich.
	He lives in uh Palm Beach, he was apparently Epstein's neighbor, and he hated Epstein is the whole story.
	And uh he wrote in there that Epstein had kicked out um Trump.
	Uh Trump had kicked out Epstein, but that's the only source for that.
	And I looked further into that guy.
	Uh his name, James Patterson.
	That's also James Patterson, the author, the fiction author.
	He also happened to write a book with Bill Clinton and did a book tour with Bill Clinton, and somehow, you know, he hates Epstein and knows all about Epstein and exposes Epstein, but he's friends with Clinton and doesn't uh you know doesn't seem to mind him.
	So I think at best him being the source for that is questionable.
	And the fact that this attorney himself said that he couldn't find any evidence of that is a pretty Yeah.
	Yeah, people were repeating that everywhere to like exonerate Trump and and it's very uh flimsy evidence to uh support that to say the least.
	All right.
	Um I noticed your I want to give a plug for your YouTube channel real quick and drop the link in the chat.
	Oh, you cut out.
	All right.
	Guys, he is at 48.4,000.
	There's sixteen hundred in the chat right now.
	If you guys are liking what you're hearing, you want to see his documentary, I suggest you all watch it.
	Um I'm plugging your channel for you, Derek.
	Are you the back?
	Uh, thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah, yeah, I'm back.
	I'm dropping the link in the chat.
	I want to get by the this time tomorrow, I I want to see him over 50,000 subs, and I want people to go and check out his uh Trojan Horse 5G documentary if you're interested in more.
	Uh you've done some other documentaries too.
	Why don't you uh tell us about some of those?
	They're not going to be able to that the Finders is one of them, and then the other one is the basically a sort of a mini documentary on Epstein, which came out in October 2018 before most people were talking about him and definitely before he was arrested.
	Um that was kind of uh the first part of my dive into the pedophilia stuff.
	I've talked about it over the years, but I got into the Finders, which other than my documentary, which is just under an hour long.
	If you search the finders on YouTube or online, mostly what you're gonna find are short summaries of the of who the finders are and five minutes, ten minutes at most.
	People will find something old from Ted Gunderson talking about it.
	But there hadn't really been any definitive look at the whole thing.
	And so when I decided, like, well, let me learn more about who these finders are.
	I mean, the more I started to dive into this, man, I was just blown away with how much concrete evidence.
	Again, not like I didn't even have to speculate in this documentary.
	That's why I don't consider it to be a cons conspiracy documentary.
	I consider it to be a true crime documentary because it's there's so much facts that we have available that we don't really have to speculate.
	You know, we don't have the final pieces of the puzzle to say some certain things conclusively, but we have clear clear evidence That the federal government, including the CIA and the FCI and uh the FBI in some ways, uh helped cover up the fact that this cult that was known as the Finders was definitely tracking trafficking children and had connections to the CIA and potentially other intelligence agencies and was apparently trafficking children from China and and elsewhere.
	And this was 1987 when it first broke.
	It came back out again in 1993.
	It was it was mainstream news.
	You actually did have some people reporting on things back then.
	Uh, but it was quickly swept under the rug, and they said there's nothing to see here.
	And I dove into that rabbit hole and I ended up finding this guy, Robert Terrell, who is uh uh was the spokesman for the the Finders and nobody had actually interviewed him in person or talked to him about it, but I found him in Florida and I went there and sat across from him for an hour and asked him if he was trafficking children and asked him you know what his role was in this.
	And of course, he denied that they were anything other than just some quirky cult.
	Uh, but the evidence definitely says otherwise.
	And since this documentary came out last year, a year ago, last uh October n 2019, the FBI actually released two more uh c uh files, uh folders of information related to the Finders and show even more conclusively that the Finders were involved in these things and that it was covered up.
	I mean, we have the summary from a Washington Metro police department officer, make like clearly saying like the CIA was involved in and preventing us from looking into this.
	This company had all kinds of front front companies that they were operating all around the world.
	They claim to just be a loose connect collection of journalists that were kind of hippies and uh but the guy who started them, he comes from military intelligence.
	He's can you know, his whole family was connected to all this web of intelligence um agents, and he claims that that was just a coincidence and it had nothing to do with what they were up to.
	But I mean, like I said, the story was just it was really disturbing, and the more I looked into it, just I was really yeah, just disturbed at how much information is there, and that it's been 30 years now, and I mean, no nobody knows who the finders are in the mainstream.
	People just brush these things off now, and then once Epstein got arrested, I think these things became more relevant to show, like, hey, Epstein and these stories weren't the first one, of course.
	I mean, people who know these things understand that this has been going on with the Catholic Church and the Baptist Church and the uh Jehovah's Witnesses and all the you know religious outfits, as well as Hollywood, as well as the politicians and the Finders were just sort of a network of people who probably were finding kids.
	I mean, they claim that the name came from their finders fees that they collected for the journalism they did, but uh it definitely seems like there's more going on than that.
	So underground child uh trafficking ring that's connected to the CIA.
	Absolutely in the CIA covered up.
	A hundred percent.
	Okay.
	Sounds lovely.
	Sounds wonderful.
	And uh Yeah, it's a dark rabbit hole.
	Yeah, I bet.
	Um you almost got a hundred thousand views on it, so that's that's interesting.
	Finders because they f they find children.
	It was is there like an estimate of how many children they think were uh involved with this.
	Well, so the initial case, those kids right there on that picture, there was six children that were pulled over in a blue van with these two guys who were dressed in like black suits while these kids looked all dirty and you know, like they hadn't been fed and bug bites and all this kind of crazy stuff.
	Um we don't we don't really know.
	You know, what I will say is that the new documents that came from the FBI within them, and I I've done a I think I did a live stream going through the documents a couple months ago.
	Um, but the news stuff from the FBI, the more recently released things, it makes makes it clear that even after the 87 event and the 92, I think it was 92 or so, this there was a report in there where somebody said they had visited the same warehouse where the Finders had a warehouse, which was in DC, not far from you know, the politicians.
	And uh basically it it said something along the lines that the Finders were babysitting the children of diplomats.
	That's what they claimed.
	But it seems like they were probably like it was potentially it could be a honeypot operation.
	I mean, it was or just simply satisfying some people's sick cravings, but um, you know, we don't have any hard numbers on how many children may have been involved in it, but um that I mean that's why I started trying to bring it to the table.
	And the thing is, some of these cops are still alive, man.
	I've reached out to some of them, and in my documentary, Ramon Martinez, he's the main one who was involved in one of the walkthroughs of the warehouses that when they when they did a search, a warrant search, and they destroyed his career.
	They made him look crazy and and uh told everybody He made the whole thing up, all the naked pictures of kids he saw, it was made up and fabricated and all this stuff.
	And he's still alive, and I contacted him and he almost spoke to me, but then he backed out at the last minute, and I tried to go visit him in person and get him to speak, and he basically told me to go away and leave him alone.
	And you know, so my point with bringing these things up is that there's still a chance for some of the truth to come out, but the people who know it are either in on it or they've been scared to shut up.
	You know, they're afraid for their lives and their families.
	Yeah, I bet.
	Um did you see the stuff about Mike Cernovich uh interfering in the Epstein case and and people think he's a proxy for Dershowitz?
	Oh, yeah, after he was trying to play a hero.
	Yeah, claiming that he got him arrested.
	Uh in my last question before we wrap it up, um uh your thoughts on on some of the topics that I cover, like Zionism and uh you know Israeli control.
	What what are you uh what are your thoughts on that?
	Well, I definitely don't claim to be as much uh I would say is uh as well researched as yourself and others.
	Um I think you noticed just a while back I did an interview with um uh what's his name?
	I can't even think of his name.
	He he's a 9-11, oh, Christopher Boy on.
	And it was the one vi Yeah, well then he's the one video that YouTube took down without any notification was an interview I did with him on 9-11, I think in DC a couple years ago, with where he's clearly talking about the Zionist and Israel connections and uh um just all that, and it wasn't even anything you know that I think anybody would well, most of us would consider controversial.
	Like it wasn't just saying it's the Jews or anything like that, it was just talking about this specific philosophy in Israel and its influence on 9-11 and its role in all this.
	And I woke woke up one day and that video was just not even I don't monetize my channel, but but it wasn't even like demonetized or you know, strike against me, it was just gone.
	Like they took it off, and you know you can't even have this video on.
	It's still on my bit shoot, and if anybody wants to find that and search for it.
	Uh, but so you know, over the years, of course, I couldn't.
	I have I I it's not that I've been I haven't been blind to the power and the influence of Israel, let's say that, and to the role that they play in a lot of these things, which is why when I was mentioning earlier about the bioweapon, I mean I leave it open to the possibilities that Israel is involved in this in some way.
	I I they seem a little silent at the moment, and I have trouble believing that they're not playing some role in all this thing.
	Um what about 5G2?
	I've seen 5Gs being created a lot by uh Qualcomm and they have many offices and RD over in Israel.
	And that have you seen about like the tech takeover agenda?
	Because a lot of this technocracy seems to be the way things are heading, it's gonna be controlled by uh by Zionists.
	Yeah, I think whether it's going to be controlled in the the nation of Israel itself or by the US or China, I think the people we could label them all as Zionists at the end of the day, right?
	And I know Whitney Webb's done some good work on like carbine and their 9-11 system and a lot of the companies that go back to Israel.
	I really loved her piece, and I did a video on it from a couple months ago talking about this uh Israeli firm that did a simulation about the 2020 elections and said that there was autonomous like all the vehicles were gonna be hijacked by the computers, there's the smart grid, and they were gonna cancel the elections and all this stuff.
	But yeah, I definitely know that for sure there are Israeli companies that are building the infrastructure of the technocracy.
	I also want to say this though, because there is a bit of misinformation about there that connects to Israel and 5G, people claiming that there's no uh 5G in Israel.
	And as far as I can see, that's not true.
	There does seem to be 5G in Israel.
	They've been talking about it for over a year and a half now.
	I mean, it only takes a couple of quick searches.
	I don't know that they have it completely rolled out.
	Um I think I saw an article yesterday saying that the COVID-19 has slowed down their rollout uh to some degree, but it's absolutely happening there, so um, I don't know what that means, but I just know the people claiming that it's not there are fa are wrong.
	Yeah, they uh they promote vaccines there as well too.
	So uh but they'll say, oh, it's uh it's the clean vaccines, which you know who knows.
	All right.
	Well, Derek, thanks for coming on.
	Um, everybody.
	Well, while you cut out there, I was trying to say to try to get you to uh to 50,000 views.
	A lot of people in the chat are saying they were already subscribed to your channel, so uh I'm not surprised.
	But uh keep up the great work.
	It's great to finally talk to you.
	I hope to uh that we can do another stream again in the future.
	Do you have uh any parting words or uh upcoming plans you want to tell people about for videos?
	Uh no, man.
	I I appreciate uh the opportunity to come on your channel and and you've got a good reach and and you're doing good work, so I appreciate that.
	And I definitely always take note whenever you're covering the stories, other people aren't, and taking extra time to just smash into the QAnon, Alex Jones people a little bit, and I appreciate that as much as well.
	Um, but I just want to remind people though that we are really facing some crazy shit right now, and if you want to get involved in anything, use the Freedom Cells website.
	You don't have to be an anarchist or have any of the same philosophical beliefs that I do.
	The goal is just to connect people and to connect people in your local area and try to get organized and try to build community because I think that's the only way we're gonna be able to move forward.
	These people are trying to lock us out of society if we don't want an immunity passport, if we won't don't want a vaccine, or if we don't want a digital certificate, if we don't want you know to be a part of the smart grid in their technocracy, as China has already stated with their social credit score, they've said that they don't want people to take to be able to take a single step if they don't comply.
	So this is going to be the way they can social engineer us to do what they want.
	And the only way we're gonna make it through is to come together and to you know find a way to work together in some capacity.
	Use the Freedom Cells website.
	Yeah, the B system that they're they're they're implementing, and it seems like this coronavirus is gonna be the pretext for for so much of it.
	I I did a video covering that Whitney Webb article too, Operation Blackout.
	And isn't it funny that she predicted that there would be chaos and no elections?
	And now who would have ever thought we the elections may be canceled or postponed.
	Yeah, man.
	There's we're in for some crazy times, and every day lately this has felt pretty surreal and felt like some kind of dream, but I'm thankful that yourself and others are still able to get information out, and I hope everybody will follow my work as well as yours and stop depending on YouTube and stop depending on these platforms too, because that's another big part of their equation.
	Is that uh they can lock us out and the next thing, next day this information won't even be available.
	So we have to be prepared for that.
	But I appreciate you having me on, man.
	All right, thank you.
	So everybody, conscious the conscience resistance dot com.
	Check out the 5G Trojan horse, Derek Bros's documentary.
	Follow him on Twitter, and uh all his links will be in the description below or on the website, his YouTube, go sub over there as well.
	And I that oh and no more news.org.
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	All right, Derek, we'll closing out.
	Thanks everyone for watching.

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